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Episode 90 - ADHD and Summer Vacations - Heaven or Hell?
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Welcome back to ADHDville! This week, Paul and Martin (ex co-mayors of ADHDville) dive into the wild world of ADHD and vacations. From forgetting passports to overbooking excursions (and then skipping them), they unpack why holidays are equal parts thrilling and exhausting for ADHD brains.
- The struggle to relax on a beach (sand = sensory nightmare).
- Why planning trips feels like climbing Everest.
- The dopamine rush of new places vs. the burnout of group travel.
- Plus: A dubious rating system—Dopamine Hits vs. Soul-Sucking Burnout!
Tune in for laughs, relatable chaos, and a few questionable life hacks. And if you’ve ever crawled out of the ocean not looking cool, this one’s for you.
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Transcript
Podcast Revamp and New Format
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Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. We're there again. Not only are we back in the room, but but the room has has had a slight ah has had a slight makeover.
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Yes. We're going to swap things up a little bit around here. One, we are going to make our podcast a bit shorter. We're going to try and hit that 30, 40-minute mark because we're busy people.
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We're all busy people. um and And also, what's the point? You're busy people as well. busy people. dear listeners, watchers, viewers.
Exploring ADHD and Vacation Topics
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Exactly. um And the other thing is, is that we've we've decided to come out rather than go down the kind of,
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know the subjects that we have been going down. and We really liked when we did ADHD and supermarkets last week, right? We thought, let's follow that as a concept. So it's going to be like ADHD and, and then it's going be something that we all have experienced, that we all kind of... um Daily habits, routines, um right shenanigans, daily shenanigans.
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Exactly. so So what we're going to talk about this week is ADHD and vacations. So let's go to a place where the distractions are landmarks and the details are on the main roads. Welcome to ADHDville.
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Yay! I almost hit the button just then. I almost hit the outro. That would have been mistake and I managed to move my cursor around to the button that says the intro, thank God.
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Always getting slicker, yes
Hosts' Introduction and ADHD Background
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we are. ha
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um So, yes, my name is Paul Thompson and I was diagnosed with the combined ADH and the D crawling towards a couple of years ago.
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And I'm Martin Weston. I was diagnosed with combined ADHD poo-poo platter in 2013. And we start off, as always, here in the town halls. ah in um No, we don't.
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What am talking about? No, we don't. We're not. We got voted out. we We did get voted out. We are no longer the mayors, and we now hang out in the King's Agitated... The next best thing.
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The next best thing. We're down the pub around the corner from the town hall.
Beach Holiday Challenges and Preferences
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In the King's Agitated Head pub, um where we sit at the back in enjoying a drink and taking care of business.
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In a cubicle. In cubicle. ah In one of those, yeah. um And this week we're going to talk about a vacation. So where shall we go, Tom Sione?
00:02:53
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I think we're going to the beach, aren't we, Martin? Or are we? Where are we going? We are going to the beach. Yes, we're going to the beach. Right, well, let's jump in the tractor and head to the beach.
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Let's go to the beach. I can't wait. I've got my sunscreen. I've got my windbreaker. Okay. All right. Right.
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I've got my sand bucket thing. Sand castle bucket. And the spade. and and And the little spade. The bucket and spade. And if you're watching on the YouTubes, you can see I'm definitely wearing my Hawaiian summer shirt. Yeah, me less. Well, kind of summery as well. But...
00:03:44
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Well, stripes. I don't know. Stripes. yeah Very continental. Very continental. Yes. um So, we yeah, we're going to talk about the vacation, kind of holiday or vacation, as you say in the States.
00:04:01
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Vacation. And about what that means to us. zaffra Love them or hate them. And a bit of both, I suspect. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's a mixed bag.
00:04:14
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It is a mixed bag and it it feels like, I don't know. it feels like in the past I've made loads of, um, compromises in terms of what I want to You know, cause you, you feel like you've got to keep the family happy, ah suppose. all Right. Often. Right. Or your partner or whatever. know, putting aside what you want.
00:04:37
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I don't think I've ever really liked beach holidays unless it's on an isolated beach. Yeah. Yeah. I am that, that thing of, you know, like when you, uh, you drive to the beach and you unload the ah car and you've the chairs and the bags and you're hauling ass across the sand.
00:05:00
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Well, before you even get there, you've been on the motorway, you know, a motorway before you get there. Right. And then you're like, everyone else is there and you're set up and you try and get your stuff ready.
00:05:13
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And then you sit in the chair and stare at the ocean. Yes. And that's your day. and And pretend to relax. That's me.
00:05:24
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it's It's very hard. me. very hard to relax on a beach. Yeah. Yeah. I can't do it. How do you do it? Yeah. I've always felt like, oh, I've got to fit in here as well. On my holiday, I've got to try and fit in and try and look like I'm relaxed.
00:05:42
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Right. You've got loads of people around you. You've got seagulls. You've got, like, weird sensations of sand getting everywhere. In between your toes.
00:05:53
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It's boring. In your ears. Sand in your ears. Right. And I bring a book because it's boring and and I can't read. Yeah. I don't know. it's like the it's It's like there's there's the page is white and the sun is bouncing off of the page. Yes. It's burning my eyes and i can't concentrate on the book.
00:06:16
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Right. Good Lord. So you're the same as me then? Because we've we've never been on on a summer holiday together, have we? No.
00:06:27
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have we Yeah, we probably have. I suspect we have at some point. We got eaten by midges in in Cuba.
Vacation Experiences: Cuba and Greece
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Oh, God. Yeah. We slept on the beach in in our sleeping bags in Cuba.
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And we had to zip zip the the whole thing up right up to the top yeah because all of the mosquitoes were like trying to get yeah get into our sleeping bags.
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Yeah, because the hotel on the beach said that we they didn't have a ah room for us, but they did the day after. but so we thought, oh, let's sleep on the beach. No problem. how on beach yeah Anyway.
00:07:07
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So we have had beach time together. We have be it a slightly weird one. Yeah. Well, I'm the same with books, by the way. I, I like the idea that I've read a book cause I like buying books, ah but I'm not so good at actually getting around to reading them.
00:07:27
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Right. But being on the beach is like, you could be like, Oh, I may as well read a book now. And if I find I'm careful about it, I find the right books, you know,
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Okay. If I find the right books, you know, and they're not too, sometimes I'd be stupid and made bad choices and I'd take, i don't know, I'd take war and peace.
00:07:51
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All right. I'm going to have time to get through this brick of the book. That's happened a lot of times. So I've taken books that I would never read on holiday. Isn't it weird how you go on vacation to get away from your normal life and then you bring a book that gets you out yeah of your vacation life?
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Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. um It does. I've got, I'm always thinking, Oh, when's lunchtime? And then lunchtime is over. and Oh, when, when, when can I like slope back to the hotel and, and get under the shower and get this sand out of my toes?
00:08:32
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Right. Yeah. if there's If there's one thing I like about those beachy vacations, it's when you're not on the beach and you've gone back to the hotel room. Yeah. And it's cool again and it's all quiet.
00:08:46
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You could just like decompress from the whole challenge. Yeah. of the allfie Although I do like i i die do like a beach when it's like off-season and it's ands cool and you can just walk along it. There's no one else there.
00:09:05
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whole different thing. ah Massively different. yeah I once went to a ah three weeks on a remote Greek island in August. Which one?
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which one who It begins with a D. I can't remember. All right. um Perhaps Alexandra will. It's not a famous one. It's a tiny island.
00:09:26
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Hasn't even got a petrol station on it. All right. Well, you know what? Yeah. Anyway, you spent three weeks. Three weeks. And it was bliss. It took three days to get to the island.
00:09:41
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Oh, all right. your like Island hopping was involved. Oh, I see. I see. But it was really worth it, though. It was completely – there were the no mopeds,
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no no cars, nothing. And um ah um half the part of the island was for nudists, which I personally was I really liked.
00:10:06
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But it wasn't like and for and was it wasn't one of those like creepy nudist kind of things. It was really chilled. You know, naturist is more naturist nudist was a whole different ballgame.
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You know, was not like people looking to hook up. but It was the complete opposite of that. And it was really chilled. It was cool. and And it felt completely natural to like, oh, I'm going to get my kit off and go for a swim.
00:10:34
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Lovely. You know what? It was great. It was brilliant. Speaking of Greek islands, Alec. and um Ali, I can't say that, Ali Alexandra, who's out who's our official ADHDville town crier, she sent me like ah a TikTok, on and on one of those Greek islands,
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It's called Atacos Island.
ADHD Statistics and Vacation Planning
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Okay. yeah ne Near Ithaca. um They have these weird, what's a weird, these black pigs that swim in the ocean like seals.
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You know, and like like they're hanging out on the beach and they're swimming. and they' And they're pigs and they're black and they're cool. Nice. Okay. Yeah. um Now then, um i've I've got some so statistics for you, and which I'll pepper in. won't but Like but numbers?
00:11:33
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Numbers. But one of them was from the 2023 Attitude magazine reader a survey that said 72% of ADHD adults report extreme difficulty with vacation planning. There you go. And I think that's... love that statistic.
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but that's That's for me is like, it's the planning part that is the hard part. it's the i I don't like the whole planning thing, whereas actually my my wife likes that.
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She likes the the planning part. I'm quite good at planning holidays. i was When we went to Greece, I was given responsibility for the planning. Bearing in mind there were four of us.
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I was given responsibility and I planned it pretty well, actually. All right. given it it was a three day, you know, you know, island hopping. And, you know, there was a and ah bus transit from Athens to the coast, to blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I'm all right with that.
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All right. Yeah, no, i i'm I'm guilty of just wanting to turn up, of just like, here's a vacation. all right, I'll just trot up to the so yeah vacation and start having having fun. i is Yeah, that the whole planning part. And and also the...
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The other thing is that 41% us over book
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things to do um overbook things to do okay yeah so you don't like so so you say right gonna arrive at the hotel then we're gonna go to this and the next day we're gonna go scuba diving and then in the afternoon we're gonna visit the bird sanctuary and you just like an excursion fill out your vague va vacation right with way too much stuff and then you just yeah burn out Okay. Burn out.
00:13:38
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Yeah. Whereas actually 81% say that unstructured wander days are their favorite parts of their trips going to ADHD. Massively.
00:13:49
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Yeah. Massively. Yeah. So if there's a tip here, it's like, it's like allow, allow, allow days where you don't do anything. Yeah.
00:14:01
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Are you good at going on a holiday with groups? Vacations with groups. Am
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I good? I mean, I'm i'm good in that and that I don't fall out with anyone. so Right. if If that counts as good. Do you get f first to get frustrated? Yeah.
00:14:24
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the the more be right yeah Do you remember when we went to Havana and we we met up with a ah couple of friends from Belgium and then there was it got to that point because it gets beyond ah certain number and this indecision comes into the dynamic because no one wants to upset anyone.
00:14:46
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certain and then And then you end up making compromises. Right. And it's like, I'll try and please everyone. And you don't really get to do what you want to do.
00:14:57
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Yeah, no, that that is really typical, especially if you're going with a group of people. And for some bizarre reason, they want to stay as a whole group of people rather than kind of going, right, well, us three are going to go and do this and us three going and do that. yes. And us three are going to go and do this other thing.
00:15:15
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So rather than being happy about splitting up and doing separate things, they all want to stick together as a group. Yeah. Or there's someone that takes just ages because I want to get out. I want to have breakfast in the morning and I want to get out.
00:15:31
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I want to do stuff, go somewhere. And then you get someone who's like, oh, no way. I'm just trying my hair. And it's like everyone's waiting in the foyer.
00:15:42
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Where does that word come from? Foye. Anyway, so yeah in the entrance, in the reception. And it's like, oh, no,
Travel Anecdotes: Istanbul and China
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she's drying her hair or he's drying his hair, whatever. It's like, oh, God.
00:15:54
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I once went to Istanbul with a group. And after about three days, I said, look, guys, I don't want to upset anyone. Look, I'm going to do my thing today. I'll see you later. Okay.
00:16:09
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I just got on the first bus out of Istanbul in any direction, just any random direction. And I timed it for about 25 minutes on the bus.
00:16:21
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And got off at the first bus stop at that point in time and walked back to the center, historical center of Istanbul. And at the best time of my life.
00:16:32
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Oh, right. So you just we to took a bus out and then just walked back in again. Yeah. I wanted to see the real Istanbul, you know, not the like, you know, the tourist version of it.
00:16:46
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Right. And it was the best thing ever. It was amazing. that That's cool. I'm just thinking thinking of, so I mean, like I've, some of the, some of the vague vacations I've, I've been on, but, but, but actually it's fifty because it's when I've gone on, know, when I've worked in, in, in another country and then I've used that as my, as my place to go on vacations from. So, so, well so I visited the great wall of China and, and,
00:17:26
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Interestingly enough, um there is a toboggan slide that that goes all the way back, that goes along the the Great Wall of China.
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so ah ri i'll tell you So you get on the wall and then you walk along this huge massive thing that goes up and up and up and some of it's really steep and it goes up. And then at one point,
00:17:51
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you can go all the way all the way back down again on this tiny little rail. So it's a little tiny thing, almost like a tray that you sit on yeah and and and and it has a and it has a break.
00:18:07
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Right. then they just send you off on it. You just go down this rail. Zoop, zoop, zoop. zoomo and try not to fall off because the... That sounds great.
00:18:18
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because Yeah. Yeah, that was fun. There is that, you know, we we talked about some negative aspects of of of travel, of vacations, but there is that positive, that's that the kind of dopamine hit of new experiences,
00:18:33
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New, new types of food, even new smells, um, different languages, whole different vibe. I love that. It's probably one of my favorite dopamine hits.
00:18:44
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Just everything feels new and different. No, yeah. i Yeah.
Vacation Benefits and Common Pitfalls
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that I mean, for an ADHD brain, that sort of novelty factor is really, really, yeah really um important. In fact, according to 2020 Frontiers in Psychology, they say that three plus days hey after days vacation, report improved focus and mood.
00:19:17
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So so a lot of us kind of come come back um riff yeah riff refreshed. Yeah. even Even if you've had a had a huge problem,
00:19:31
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you know if if even if there's been a lot going on because, you know, think, where was this? 58%. fifty eight percent According to 2023 magazine's reader survey, 58% said that 58% of people forgot essential items on their trips.
00:19:58
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Like, dry you know, passports, medications, charges, all of that sort of sort stuff. Which I have a, I have a repeating, repeating.
00:20:09
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I have a, um, a dream that I have quite often, um, about losing my passport and being trapped in a country. Oh, right. Um, like Havana and not being able to get back. That happens to quite, but I'm quite probably because of that. I'm really, really organized for holidays.
00:20:31
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Really organized. I have the same fear. It's rare that I forget something. I have the same fear. So I check everything like a billion times. Yes, um exactly.
00:20:44
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Yeah. Yeah. I read someone saying that that they yeah that they like to on planning the trip and they spent three days you know like um shopping online to for for various things for their trip and then were so hyper focused on that that that they forgot to buy the actual tickets four there they for vacation. Right.
00:21:14
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I once was convinced that I'd booked flights on for for a holiday. Turned out I hadn't. yeah i I just got through all the went through all the motions of of, you know, looking for the flight, keep telling the person I was traveling, you know, with where it was everything.
00:21:37
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Everything except actually booking the flights. I was convinced. And then um there was like 10 days to go. and I thought, oh, I don't remember receiving an email with the tickets.
00:21:50
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And I checked up on it. It's like, no, No, I haven't booked a single flight.
00:21:58
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Luckily, it wasn't too much of a problem. there was still There were still seats available and it wasn't i was like almost the same price. So it was okay. Yeah.
00:22:09
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ah A friend of mine, um she was she was going to Africa she and she She was staying at our place in in New York and she said, right, um what time do I have to leave in order to to to catch this flight? And I said, okay, well, you have to leave at this time.
00:22:35
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And she thought I was being um two too cautious. Right. And so she so she yeah so she left when she thought,
00:22:47
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she should leave and then she she missed the flight ah obviously yeah um and then came back and uh she was at our place for about three months before she could get her flight back out again oh And the reason was was was because she hadn't got visas for all of the countries that she was going to visit.
00:23:16
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um And I was like, no, mate, you you have to get the visas for those countries. and So she spent time getting the visas. Blimey.
Cruise Vacations and Spending Habits
00:23:28
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I think we're going to do another episode about airports and things like that. We will. We will. Yeah. um I've got – there's also different types of holidays, right?
00:23:40
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There is the – what do they call it? In Italian it's called the crociere, the cruise liners. Yes. what what so once What's your position, Mr. West, on cruise liners? I do not – that is my least – that's my least favourite place to go vacation. Have you done one?
00:24:04
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No. but i But I wouldn't want to book one because for me it's the idea of being, I'm i'm trapped. I'm trapped on this boat and I can't get off. But whether I like it or not, I'm stuck.
00:24:20
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For me, it's my worst nightmare. Right. Like you you're eating in the same place and it's like the buffet at the same time and queuing with everyone else. And then you get, I don't know, Roger and Belinda who you ate with on the first night.
00:24:36
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And they kind of like want to, they insist on you eating with them every night. Right. And you can't get out And you're stuck with them. Fucking Roger and Belinda. Yeah.
00:24:47
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Roger and Belinda. Yeah. And then you go into the same places and you... Oh, no. it's I don't get it. I really don't get it at all. You know what? um ada Not even if it was like an ADHD cruise. I wouldn't even go on an ADHD cruise. so Oh, it existed.
00:25:08
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Fucking hell. As long as the captain isn't there. Yes, it exactly. That's... As long as the captain knows what he's doing, that's hard. Did you know, Paul, that that ah in a 2021 Journal of Consumer Research says that ADHDers, like you and me, are two and a half times more likely to impulse spend on on trips.
00:25:35
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That's like kind of like, ah you know, like so um so that would be you're on vacation. Yes. So you're on excursions to to go and see the monkeys or to go to the Scoobies.
00:25:51
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go to the scooies um And then so we so so we so we spend more on these things and then 34% of us admit to losing money on unused activity bookings. Or like hiring, i was like suddenly you're on the beach and you're bored think, I know what I'll do. I'm going to hire someone to teach me to windsurf.
00:26:19
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Oh, blimey. Yeah, I did that once. Yeah, I thought you did. thought you did. Yeah, I've done that. um quite a quite like because I quite like being active.
00:26:32
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I've hired a jet ski as well. That was great. Right. um Excursions are generally great, you know, if you go to, like, little islands and things. But I tend to, like, I'm a bit weird with those kind of things.
00:26:45
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Even if they're really appealing to me, I just generally don't do them. I suppose because I'm worried that I'll be like stuck on a little boat with people i don't really want to get, you know, trapped into small talk with, you know, for a whole day.
00:27:01
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But, yeah be you know, like if you're there you somewhere, like you feel there's this pressure of of of what you should do when you're there.
Vacation Wardrobe and Routine Challenges
00:27:11
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So like if you're in Paris, well, you know, you have to see the the the Louvre. You have to go up the Eiffel Tower.
00:27:19
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Yeah. So there's this there there is this kind of pressure to optimize your your vacation by doing the things that you feel you have to do this is going back to your earlier point feel you have to do rather than actually what you want to yeah well my dad i once went with for new year's eve i we decided to go to paris and um my dad decided that we should go to disneyland paris as well a day trip to disneyland paris my worst freaking nightmare i hate pluming those kind of things
00:27:57
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i Even even if it's like any kind of um what i call amusement parks, um even if it's Disneyland, I hate those places with a passion. All right.
00:28:08
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and But I said, okay, let's do it. And it was the pits. It was terrible. was the pits. It was the pits. Well, there we go. There's Paul's travel recommendation, not Disneyland Paris.
00:28:23
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um Have you got any? We're on 28th. we're on the twenty eight minute mark have you got any any any standouts i've got well transitions oh yes transitions when you're on the beach and you've you've got transition out of your normal shorts into your bikini right or in my case or in my case my trunks i hate that transition i'm not transitioning into your bikini just saying or even my mankini
00:28:58
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Right. And, and um yeah, those transitional moments, it's like, oh, God, um because, i don't know, there are some countries, for instance, um that are very particular.
00:29:09
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I think in France, you're not, theyre especially in the south southlf coast, Côte d'Azur, you're not allowed to, um you've got to be careful about what you're saying.
00:29:20
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um how you're dressed when you're not on the beach. So you just can't walk from the beach to the hotel just wearing a bikini or a mankini. You have to get dressed and be decent, you know.
00:29:33
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Plenty of countries where that, you know, where you have wear something on your shoulders. I'm not is comfortable about transitions. A bit like Dudley Moore in 10. Do you remember in 10 where he has trouble with the hot sand?
00:29:46
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i guess so but He orders a cocktail just so the waiter comes out so he can get a piggyback on the way back. He gets a piggyback from the cocktail waiter. That's funny.
00:29:59
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You know what? On the transition side, there's the, you know, like ah the the the biggest thing is that you've got like a life cycle.
00:30:12
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you know, like how you you've got all your habits and your things that you've set up in your normal life, right? Like, you know, eating and sleeping and doing all the kind of healthy things. And then you go on vacation and it all goes tits up, right? It's all just like, it all just goes everywhere and all your carefully...
00:30:33
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All your careful routines and healthy habits just kind of just go out of the window. And then yeah when you get back from vacation, it's it's like except it's it's it's it's not easy to kind of get all those habits out.
00:30:54
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back again. like Yeah. there's a yeah trend but That transition from that's true vacation to home is is ah is is a little bit of a weird one as well. Another tricky transition could sometimes be the transition between coming out of the sea you know, going for a swim, coming back onto the beach.
00:31:15
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But that, that part of the shoreline is quite steep and it's full of um pebbles that are quite difficult. And you, you're trying, to you're coming out of the beach, out coming out the sea, trying to look cool.
00:31:29
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Is there any way that you can look out the sea looking cool? Is that a thing that can happen? every I've tried it. I was in Calabria two years ago, so the south coast of Italy, and it was a steep – along the shoreline there was there were pebbles. so um So it was there was no cool way of walking back onto the beach.
00:31:54
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You just had to look like – You were scrambling and it was really uncomfortable. we Like pebbles underneath your feet. Oh, I know. And you just kind like walk and you try and walk and then the then the yeah surf sucks back and then all the stones under your feet disappear. actually and And then sometimes you end up crawling. You're on all fours at one point, right? Yeah.
00:32:18
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Yes. And then the water draws back like a little mini tsunami and your feet gets sucked into the sand. Yeah. And you think yeah then it comes back. going to look cool here.
00:32:32
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You know, help me out. Mm-hmm. Yes. All right. Okay. Shall we move on? Let's move on.
New Rating System and Travel Preferences
00:32:42
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All right. So we are we are going to rate so everything that we're going to be talking about, like ADHD and supermarkets, ADHD and vacations.
00:32:51
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We're going to have ah have a new rating thing So we can we're going to score these. So im and let us know one this how you would score ADHD vacations. Now we've got two...
00:33:11
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things that we're going to score one is the categories yes cats thank you paul categories um the dopamine hit score so that's like how much good stuff how much dopamine can you get out of it and then there's the the the then there's the burnout score how much does that thing suck from from your very living soul um How much it makes your eyes bleed.
00:33:38
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yeah Yes. And then we'll kind of see you know, out of those two. Yeah. You know. It's an interesting one already. The first time we've done this ratings, it's already and it on this particular subject, quite an interesting one. What have you got, Martin, under dopamine hit?
00:33:58
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Between 0 and 10. Right, I'm going to say, for me, vacations are like a six. Okay.
00:34:09
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like ah Like, I can get a lot out of them. I do like them, but they're not... but they're not
00:34:21
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yeah they're not something that i go out of my way to plan every year like i look forward to my vacation and i and i you know and i save up and i you know like and that's what i'm thinking about that's it's it's not at the front of my mind at all what about what about what about you paul what is your I think I'm torn, Martin, I'm torn.
00:34:43
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Because in the end, if I'm really, really honest, I do prefer to go on a holiday by myself. I kind of like it's a different holiday. It's, you know, you it's much more exploratory.
00:34:57
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You get into more kind of ah more unusual shenanigans, bigger dopamine hits potentially and and more interesting. But... But generally, that doesn't happen. So I'm going to go for a solid 6.5 on the dopamine hit score.
00:35:13
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yeah All right. So just under mine. All right. And then the burnout score, which is like how much it sucks out of our very living souls.
00:35:24
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and By the time I get home after a holiday, burnout score, – oh I suppose yeah ah seven. I think that was seven.
00:35:37
Speaker
All right. So you're going to get home. I'm um'm i'm exhausted. I'm happy to be home. Right. And as they always say, I ah want to take a vacation to to to relax after my vacation.
00:35:54
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Yeah. Or something like that. I often find that like vacations are a bit of a lie, really. It's like what was saying before, you know, like, oh, let's sit on a sun lounger all day for two weeks and pretend that I'm relaxed.
00:36:10
Speaker
And I can't do it. I'm not good. at I'm not a good relaxer. I think you are more of a city break person, right? You're a bit like me. I would much rather go to somewhere where there's like you know museums and interesting architecture art.
00:36:27
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Yeah. and Massively. Good food. yeah All right, so I'm going to give ah the the burnout score as 6.5. Okay, solid. it's very So for me, it is slightly not worth it by 0.5.
00:36:46
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slightly worth it by four five and youre right you're saying is is slightly not worth it by yeah point five Well, not exactly worth it or not worth it. More as like, I'd rather be doing something else.
00:37:02
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You know, i think I could get more dopamine and less burnout doing what I really want to do. Just being really freaking selfish, you know? Right.
Episode Conclusion and Engagement Reminders
00:37:13
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Cool.
00:37:14
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All right. So there you go. All righty. Those are the scores. And in fact, next week I shall have a piece of music for that. so that Okay. for that Nice thing.
00:37:25
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Come on. All right. Come on. All right. Let's go to the... Post office? We're going to quickly nip to the ADHD post office. Yes. Yes, let's do that, Paul.
00:37:38
Speaker
And you're going to say... Yes, your feedback is vital to us. We read all your messages. We might read out yours. Yes, yours out on our future podcast. Cast, cast, cast. um Like this one. Like this one.
00:37:53
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From ali from alex south Alexandra. Our official town crier. um And we were talking about supermarkets earlier. last week and uh and uh uh if you haven't read all of our wonderful comments in the comment section on youtube then you should and and write your own comments on youtube come on say hello um anyway on So she was saying that when it comes to supermarkets, she says, I have an internal rule, two impulsive bup-bys. For me, it's usually cookies or crackers and ice cream or a more expensive cheese.
00:38:33
Speaker
I like that. A more expensive cheese, but more expensive than what? Than a regular, than her regular cheese. She might be like, I'm up the ante.
00:38:46
Speaker
Yes. I bought some right lavender and honey cheese the other day. Oh, wow. It was very nice. I like, I discovered quite recently, um smoked mozzarella.
00:39:01
Speaker
Oh, yes. It's very nice. It's so good. So good. All right. Okay. And then let's talk about, so let's talk about what we're going to talk about next week.
00:39:13
Speaker
Yeah, we're going to talk, Martin. We're going to talk next so episode. Episode 91 of our podcast will be ADHD and the cosmo team planet cosmos, cosmos.
00:39:26
Speaker
And stars. exp Expansiveness. in Infinity. So if you've got any thoughts about the cosmos. the planets the stars general mind-blowing stuff yeah yeah then let us let us know what your what your favorite thing about the cosmos is um um lovely well so join us for that one join us for that exactly and if you've got any suggestions about the cosmos just put those in our in the comments as well why not
00:40:02
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00:40:37
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