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S3-156: Season 3 Finale! Happy 3rd Birthday SnowJobs Podcast!!
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Steve and Jeremy sit down and answer listener questions regarding the first three years of The SnowJobs Podcast, the community that has been born out of it, and the impact the community has had pushing positive changes in the snow industry!
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Podcast Anniversary & Mega Storm Fern
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Let's get it snow jobs nation. Here we go back again, bringing you episode 156 of the snow jobs podcast main show powered by Top Gun Backblades, the best show in snow. 156 episodes.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
If you multiply that by 52 weeks a year, that would mean today is our third birthday, third anniversary of the snow jobs podcast.
Hosts' Camaraderie Amidst Challenges
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The SnowJobs Podcast
156 Mondays in a row. Actually, that's a lie.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
because we released last week's special on Sunday, so that guys had something to listen to while they were plowing Megastorm Fern.
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RICK JAMES
Right.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
156 weeks in a row, though. New content every week.
00:01:19
RICK JAMES
Not bad.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Not bad, brother. You know who I am You know who's always with me, couldn't do it without him.
00:01:36
RICK JAMES
Fuck yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
enjoy yourself ah steve and jeremy three years in what's up buddy how you doing
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RICK JAMES
luck yeah
00:01:46
RICK JAMES
Hey, doing really good. Really good. How about you?
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RICK JAMES
are you doing?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
i'm doing i'm doing good man battling uh obviously as you can hear from my voice i am not feeling great but uh you know show's got to go on right you
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RICK JAMES
Yes, sir.
Aftermath of Winter Storm Fern
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Winter storm fern kicked our butts a little bit, and we've been going all night, every night.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That storm might as well keep going because ah we've been at it. It's, what, Friday? And we've been at that since it was over early Monday morning, nonstop.
00:02:10
RICK JAMES
Yep.
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RICK JAMES
Doing cleanups and what whatnot, I suppose.
00:02:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Pushbacks, blowbacks, yeah, pretty much everything. Now the everybody's got the ice damming gutters and stuff, and we've got to keep answering calls to say, we don't do that.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
like That's a...
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RICK JAMES
was just like, you don't do that.
00:02:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's a roofing problem or a gutter problem. That is not. Are you kidding me? You know how hard it is to get insurance in New York for anything? you you think I'm going to touch a shingle on a roof? Nope. Nope. Nope.
00:02:39
RICK JAMES
Nope.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You're not covered for that.
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RICK JAMES
No.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
No, thank you.
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RICK JAMES
no
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. a lot It's crazy.
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RICK JAMES
How'd it go for you?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
What?
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RICK JAMES
How'd the storm go? How'd your storm go?
Snowstorm Experiences & Forecast Challenges
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Storm went very well overall. Yeah, I mean, we didn't we had one breakage and that was in the last after it already wound down.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah So that was like during final cleanup. We blew one hydraulic line. And of course, that was the one spare the the one line we did not have. a spare of so uh as it always goes so we were down one skid for the for the cleanup at one complex uh but and that didn't really matter everything else was running everything else stayed running uh no gelling issues no breakages other than that the guys were phenomenal uh the operators were crazy good they just kept going uh kept going with quality they did not seem to get tired
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RICK JAMES
Yep. yep
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The SnowJobs Podcast
um the the the ninjas were at their best they were uh other than partying a little too hard in the hotel that uh we kept them at they uh they had a yeah they were partying they had a swimming party they got a little loud in the rooms i'm like how do you guys have this much energy like you better bring it but they did great i i want to say that the main body of snow for us was like 9 a.m sunday till
00:03:41
RICK JAMES
Oh,
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RICK JAMES
yeah. There it
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, if you ask the weather guys, 11 p.m. to 12 midnight was going to stop, and it snowed it's still snowed gangbusters until 4.30 in the morning. But I believe...
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RICK JAMES
is. Oh.
00:04:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's been a couple days. It's been a long couple days. But I want to say that everything was cleaned up, done, other than some touch-ups later in the day after we'd taken a couple hours off of places that were closed that day.
00:04:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
I want to say everybody was out of there. The complexes, everybody was able to get out and leave their complexes by 1030.
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RICK JAMES
is this
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The SnowJobs Podcast
so we had cars moved and cleaned up and it was it was great guys did phenomenally i can't say enough about the crew the boys were outstanding they killed it um yeah everything was good man couldn't i couldn't ask for anything better that's for sure and uh
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RICK JAMES
What did you end up with?
Snowfall Measurement Discrepancies
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Again, that's a ah point of contention, depending on who you ask. Like, I kind of Rob texted me from the weather pros about noon on Monday after it was all over and we'd been up, you know, 36 hours battling this thing back. And he wass like, oh, that was some storm, huh? Did you get 12 to 14? I'm like, dude, you're high.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
like we were We were well over 20 everywhere. we were I think I took a measurement for them.
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RICK JAMES
Really?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I took some measurements for them with a tape measure, and even like a full day and a half later in the sun, we were still over 21 inches in most places. my guys My guys know they've been doing it a long time. You know, you know too. You know what 12-inch piles look like. You know what 24-inch piles look like. Like, it's just different. The whole area got slaughtered, and that's the common theme. All those guys that we had on last week, talking to them, they all said the same thing. We got way more snow than the weather people are talking about, and it's –
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, like I had the conversation with Nick. I said, something is broken in what you're doing. Like, I'm not even kidding. Like, just not even being a dick. I said, you guys have been 100% all year. When you've called for snow, we've gotten snow.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Where you've been, where all of them have been off is the end time and the totals. Everybody's been calling for routinely every total they've called for has been routinely 100 percent over. So there is something broken in how they read the moisture available for a storm or the coldness of the different layers of air to produce the ratios. Something is is.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
broken in their models that that they're reading to to get these totals because it was supposed to be 12 to what 12 to 16 and we were over 20 everywhere we were close to 30 in a couple spots on the mountain so I mean it's something's broken somewhere
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RICK JAMES
Wait.
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RICK JAMES
Wait, you you said you have an end time? What's an end time? i don't even know what the fucking end time is.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, well, yes. so You know, they predict when they think the snow will stop. And we didn't, we were supposed to get wind with it for a period of time. We got zero wind, no wind what whatsoever. The guys were ready for And they're like, where is this wind? Nope. We had zero blowing snow. We just had a lot of snow.
Jeremy's Storm Chasing Adventures
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Like we were, they were talking two, three inches an hour snowfall rates. We were definitely in three inch an hour snowfall rates for a good long time.
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RICK JAMES
Wow.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It was good. Yeah, it was good. You saw of videos like we were we were we were inundated with snow.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
And I'm sending them videos saying, does this look like 12 to 14 inches to you? Like, I mean, look look at the ah the way we're not even wind rowing. We're bulking with artics. And the the side of the road is is the roof of the skid steer. It level with it. It's like, you know, we got a lot of snow here, dudes.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
this was This was not one foot. This was two feet everywhere. So again, 100% more than what they are saying or and what they're still reading.
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RICK JAMES
yeah
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The SnowJobs Podcast
you know And then you get these National Weather Service spotters that are taking their their measurement. This is the greatest. The one for our area took her photo on a slotted table, like a table with nothing but holes in it on her back porch.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
So like, how much snow goes through those holes before it even starts to accumulate that high?
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RICK JAMES
Oh,
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, you can't do that. Yeah, every tape measure two days later was still 21, 22 inches, 23 inches. Like it was I took them all over town just so they'd have enough evidence to say, oh, wow. Yeah, you really did get a lot of snow.
00:08:19
RICK JAMES
yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
So it was good.
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RICK JAMES
sort then They raise it much for you then.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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RICK JAMES
Okay.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Once you can prove it. Yeah. If you can prove it, they raise it. But every contractor in the area had the same thing. Even the local the local highway departments and stuff were like, dude, we got over two feet.
00:08:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
And the weather service that we pay for is saying like 16 inches. Like it's not even close. And they the guys plow and know what the hell they pushed.
00:08:43
RICK JAMES
Right. Yep.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You anybody that's been doing it a long time, you know how many times you pushed four inches. If you pushed four inches six fucking times, you know, do the math. You know, it's it's crazy. So ah but yeah, it's I think like i I legitimately think it's not their fault. I think something in the modeling is broken. Some of their information that they're getting from the computers is just not right. It's it's off, whether it's the ratios, how cold the atmosphere is or how much moisture is available for the the storm.
00:09:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
They've been 100% calling snow. They've been 100% on. I can't say enough about them. Every time they've called for snow this season, they've nailed it. But every snowstorm has overperformed by 100%.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
If they're calling for 2 to 4, we get 6. If they're calling for, you know, whatever, 8, we're getting 16. It's like something is not right here, boys. You can't be this good and yet that bad at the same time.
00:09:39
RICK JAMES
We get the complete opposite here. Complete opposite.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
What, they can't even call snow, right? Like it doesn't come?
00:09:43
RICK JAMES
No, it you know three to four, we end up with an inch. It's like they don't, I can't hit.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, well, so there we are. We're in two different realms. But
New Ventures & Logistics During Storms
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The SnowJobs Podcast
speaking of that, you came east, right?
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
You chased the snow this weekend.
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RICK JAMES
He sure did.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice.
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RICK JAMES
we were, we were out, uh, yeah, we were out and helpful top dog services out there.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
There we go.
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RICK JAMES
And we did some storm chasing out there with, uh, for our show and all that fun stuff.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
promoting our Promoting our new company.
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RICK JAMES
So yeah, yes, sir.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, nice. There we go.
00:10:15
RICK JAMES
Brought a few of the boys.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Boys did good.
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RICK JAMES
I mean, by me and a few, I think we had 16 of us scattered throughout the nation.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
snow murks
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RICK JAMES
snowmerks. That's what we are. Yep. yeah It was a good time. We and had three guys head down to Atlanta and three guys in Houston and then had the rest of us rent dullas with Todd there helping his team out, seeing where we can help and fit in and
00:10:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Did Atlanta get much? Did they get snow?
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RICK JAMES
No, they just got some rain away. It's all in. It's just some rain. So they didn't really do it. That was pretty much a vacation for those boys. they had it According to their Snapchats, they had a good time.
00:10:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, that works.
00:10:57
RICK JAMES
rich richard took care Richard took care of them boys.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I bet.
00:11:00
RICK JAMES
are Really good. to Here, we're busting our ass working 30-hour shifts, and there they're fucking in the hotels. They're out it eating at restaurants and drinking and having a good time.
00:11:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hey, you know, you some days you win. some what Some days you're the bug. Some days you're the windshield.
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RICK JAMES
yeah I guess, yeah. So I think it was just shy of a foot is what they said, what I had heard.
00:11:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
So how much did you get at Dulles?
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RICK JAMES
So like now have a couple inches of sleeves or something like they said.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
get all snow?
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RICK JAMES
that was ah that was different. It there's ah there' was fun. It's a whole different ball game out there. And it's ah it's a fun fun game, that's for sure.
00:11:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Have you ever plowed inches of sleep before?
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RICK JAMES
no.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It's like crazy pellets. just
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RICK JAMES
Oh, shit. Dude. i don't I don't know it was a sleet or if it was... Because we were loading off-road dump trucks up and the shit was just like...
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RICK JAMES
ah We were filling the truck up with the loader. it was just like rolling out like water. just Not like slush, but it was just like pellets.
00:12:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Mm-hmm.
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RICK JAMES
just It was just weird.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Mm-hmm.
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RICK JAMES
it wentt Nothing would stick together. It was just...
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Nope. It doesn't.
00:12:09
RICK JAMES
It's like, what the fuck is going on? We're like, you know us. We like to load the shit out of it.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, it's ah it was...
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It's like you're loading a dump truck with 100,000 BBs. No. yeah
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RICK JAMES
Yeah, or or flour or something.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah they go
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RICK JAMES
It was just rolling. There was nothing to it. it i mean, it wasn't heavy. It wasn't it was just, yeah. It was definitely a definitely good time, good experience. And, I mean, we can get into a little bit more in a little bit. But, yeah, it was a – definitely do that again. Yeah.
00:12:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
cool all right so did dullish shut down at all or were they flying the whole time
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RICK JAMES
No, they shut down. i believe they shut down that for a while, yeah, that night.
00:12:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
right very cool yeah those pilots don't like to fly in the snow oh were you doing the icing too
00:12:50
RICK JAMES
No, yeah, they just, but it wasn't because of us. We did our job.
00:13:00
RICK JAMES
had my de-icing pads ready to rock, so.
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RICK JAMES
I don't know. I was on the, i was, I had to start off.
00:13:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, you had to keep clearing them.
00:13:10
RICK JAMES
I had to keep clearing. They had two de-icing paths there and I was on both of those with Smythe and few other guys. So
00:13:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha. Did you get to run the multifunctional?
00:13:22
RICK JAMES
fuck yeah, I did.
00:13:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice.
00:13:24
RICK JAMES
I might've broke it, but i yeah, I ran it. So I think the tranny went up. I was pushing her too hard. a
00:13:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, not you.
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RICK JAMES
I was giving her, i was giving the business.
00:13:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Yeah, it's not used to to Fargo pushing.
00:13:39
RICK JAMES
Well, we were nice, that's for sure.
00:13:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
How fast are you plowing in that thing?
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RICK JAMES
As fast as Todd told me to would go, so that's what I did.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
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RICK JAMES
Todd Dog said, put her down and keep making circles, and that's what I was doing.
00:13:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice.
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RICK JAMES
It was a ah good time. That was i was fun.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Good.
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RICK JAMES
I could use, those are fun units around, comfortable, you know, very comfortable.
00:14:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
I bet.
00:14:03
RICK JAMES
So,
00:14:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, cool. I'm glad you had fun.
00:14:07
RICK JAMES
yeah, great time.
00:14:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Good. All right, guys.
Three Years of Podcasting Reflection
00:14:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
So today, what we're going to do, you know, Jeremy and I, as we said, are celebrating the third birthday of the show. 156 main show episodes every single Monday all year round. Talking snow for you guys.
00:14:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
uh it's been a great three years um so today what we were going to do is we're just going to talk about the last three years we're to ask each other some questions we got some questions from listeners that they want to ask us uh so no guests today just us right we we We originally wanted to get a bunch the the same bunch of guys from New York that we did last week and before Storm Fern hit. And ah as I was saying, we're all still busy hauling. you know The guys are out right now. They're ah they're blowing back piles.
00:14:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
so And those guys are all blowing back and hauling now, too. So ah nobody could do it. And we're like, you know what? I forgot it's our third anniversary show. It's been such a busy week. uh forgot about that anyway so i'm like you know what we're just gonna freestyle this tonight just the two of us and uh we'll see how it goes but that's it that's what we got for you today and uh you know what we got to do we're gonna do the week of review but before we do that we'll hear team top gun and we'll be right back
00:15:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
all right gang we're back so quick week review last week as we said we had a bunch of my fellow new york snow guys they were on to talk about what was then the upcoming winter storm fern mega storm fern um you know and at the request you guys uh you know we always listen to you guys out there and we got so many dms from guys in the northeast the mid-atlantic uh everybody that was going to be pushing from this event and out in this on sunday uh everybody asked is it possible to drop monday's episode on sunday so we all have new material to listen to and we did we did that so you know winter storm fern definitely didn't disappoint and uh hopefully neither did the episode i thought that was really good the guys talking about what they were doing you know prepping for uh possibly two feet of snow coming at us um
00:16:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, yeah, that was a good episode.
Snow Jobs Nation Merchandise Success
00:16:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Thanks to those boys. And we'll have them back on to hear how they made out as soon as we get caught up from this. Let's see. Keep hitting Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Like and subscribe, all right? Drop those reviews of the show. Tell us what you like. Tell us what you don't like. Tell us what do better for you.
00:16:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
what else uh snow jobs nation store stocked and ready for your orders make sure you get your snow jobs gear as soon as possible all right jeremy's trying to keep it stocked but it's actually flying off the shelves the last couple weeks doing a fair i know that was great thank you very much that was awesome they loved them they wore them during the storm yeah you would have thought it was a snow jobs snow company plowing out there everybody was in snow jobs gear
00:17:11
RICK JAMES
Yeah, I sent you bunch stuff for your boys. so and Did they get it all in time?
00:17:20
RICK JAMES
Nice.
00:17:23
RICK JAMES
ah that' That's awesome. Yeah, we had a few orders when I was out town. I shipped them as soon as I got back, so I apologize for that somewhere.
00:17:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, everybody understands.
00:17:31
RICK JAMES
And then, yeah, supply chain, yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Supply chain. Just say supply chain.
00:17:37
RICK JAMES
Yeah. And then ah we did a little photo shoot when we were in D.C. with some of our ah my crew out there trying to chair like trying to get some – I'll keep releasing some pictures here and there, trying to keep up the – get our merch going a little harder.
00:17:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
That looked really good.
00:17:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Snow jobs in the nation's capital.
00:17:54
RICK JAMES
Nice.
00:17:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was great.
00:17:56
RICK JAMES
Yes, sir.
00:17:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
At the monuments.
00:17:57
RICK JAMES
I picked up some car.
00:17:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was pretty cool. That was cool to see. It's still so tricky.
00:18:01
RICK JAMES
I picked up so picked up a few things a today at Media Shack, and they're working on those new sweatshirts still because Spencer wants to get them right. They're they're trying out these different dyes because they're going to a little bit reflective.
00:18:14
RICK JAMES
So they're working on the logo, trying to get that reflective just right.
00:18:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:18:17
RICK JAMES
so they'll get it he said and He said they'll have a dial in shortly, so we'll get them out hopefully in next week or two.
00:18:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cool, cool.
00:18:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Can't wait. So yeah, guys, keep heading over to snowjobsnationstore.com and get all your Snow Jobs Nation merch. And yeah, you got anything else, buddy? All
00:18:34
RICK JAMES
I don't think so. I think it was ah it was a good week. so
00:18:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
right, cool. All right, let's hear from our partners and we will be right back and we'll get into these questions from everybody.
Podcast Journey & Overcoming 'Pod Fade'
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The SnowJobs Podcast
all right gang we're back so we don't have to welcome anybody and we're already here so we'll we'll just get right into it uh so i got actually a question from one of my guys uh to lead us off here he said uh did you actually think when you started this that you would make it three years and we well i've added this part you you know how many episodes offhand that we've recorded in the three years
00:21:24
RICK JAMES
I close to 200 now.
00:21:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
216 episodes overall between all the specials and and the new series and stuff like that so 216 episodes in three years did you think the show would make it three years when we started
00:21:39
RICK JAMES
No, I mean, I don't know. him I don't know. I really don't know. i I really didn't have any big expectations when the show started. I just wanted to, you know how I am.
00:21:49
RICK JAMES
I just go with the flow.
00:21:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah absolutely
00:21:51
RICK JAMES
We'll make it work. We'll make it work. So, yeah.
00:21:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
We just wanted to talk snow. That was it. um i i don't
00:21:56
RICK JAMES
Hell yeah.
00:21:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't remember, honestly, if... i mean, you're always hoping what you're going to do is going to be successful and people are going to like it and listen, but I don't know if I ever thought that far down the road. like i you know I know what I wanted to do.
00:22:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
I wanted to make it 10 episodes. Because...
00:22:14
RICK JAMES
ah yeah I remember you always saying that. You always said, if you make it past 10, you're...
00:22:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Pod fade. Yeah.
00:22:18
RICK JAMES
that's i remember that you said that constantly.
00:22:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:22:20
RICK JAMES
So, yeah.
00:22:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, that's what they said is that's what like everything, all, all the big podcasts and stuff. They'll tell you like 90% of podcasts that startup fail. And they usually fail in the first 10 episodes because they just don't get enough listeners. They, you know, they can't get consistency with what they're putting out or the timing they're putting out and they, they just can't gain a following and they, they fall to what's called pod fade.
00:22:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
And that's pretty common, I guess.
00:22:45
RICK JAMES
second
00:22:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
And, uh, That's ah so that was the big hurdle. Like we were looking forward to 10 episodes, like let's get past 10 and then, all right, then we'll, yeah, absolutely.
00:22:52
RICK JAMES
Yeah. He's so volatile. He was always saying that.
00:22:55
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cause that's what I was told.
00:22:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, that was my my friend that has a successful podcast there.
00:22:57
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:23:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's what Bobby said. He's like, dude, make it past 10 episodes. And I remember the first episode we did, we didn't know anything about analytics, anything about numbers. Like um I remember asking him like, dude, how, how much, uh, like how many listens should we expect?
00:23:10
RICK JAMES
No.
00:23:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
He goes, I'm, Well, listen, if the first episode is up for a week and it has like between 100 and 300 listens, it's your friends and family. You probably have nothing. Do another episode or two. See if it improves. If it doesn't, wrap it up.
00:23:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, nobody wants to hear it. i was like what would be wildly successful for a first episode after a week he goes dude if you get 500 listens like maybe 700 that's wildly successful keep going like right cool i think like the first three days like it takes 72 hours for a new podcast to have apple register it with analytics and like
00:23:52
RICK JAMES
move
00:23:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
the first three days were like 2 000 listens or something he's like are you fucking with me i'm like no i'm serious weird it was i'm like i if i'm reading this right and he he looked it up he's like i gave him the password to log in he's like holy shit yeah dude good for you guys keep going so did i make think we make it three years though i don't remember thinking that far ahead honestly
00:24:10
RICK JAMES
Yeah. that was
00:24:16
RICK JAMES
Yeah, same.
00:24:17
RICK JAMES
I mean, we go week to week.
00:24:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
I just remember thinking...
00:24:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, exactly.
00:24:19
RICK JAMES
Okay.
00:24:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
i just I remember thinking, and I think we talked about this, because we're the same way. Snow guys are so unforgiving. Please just let us not fucking suck. Because they're going to let us hear it if we suck.
00:24:31
RICK JAMES
Yeah, we'll get right back.
00:24:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah but Yeah, but I mean, everybody loved it. Everybody was so supportive. they They loved it right off the bat. I think they were starving for something like this. You know, just... real dudes down to earth guys just talking about what they know you know and what you know what these snow guys can identify with so it's it's it's good i'm glad you know everybody's been so uh so loving it so much uh
00:24:48
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
Evolution & Success of the Podcast
00:24:56
RICK JAMES
what if What did you think the Snow Jaws podcast was going to turn into?
00:24:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
let's see go ahead
00:25:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
um it's that has changed that at the beginning
00:25:05
RICK JAMES
Back then. but Yeah, what did you think?
00:25:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Again, it was please don't suck. okay just Please don't suck.
00:25:11
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:25:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, let's just be something that that our peers, like, want to listen to because they are such a tough crowd and they're so, like, they can smell fake shit a mile away.
00:25:14
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:25:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
We all can. We know when we're being bullshitted. And I think, like, just please let us put something out there that guys feel is worthy of their fucking time to listen to. And I think we did that pretty well. And we had a lot of help.
00:25:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
We brought some really good guests on early. We had a lot of help from those guests. they they They let us get into a routine. um And once we were comfortable actually pushing the record button and doing what we do, then it became a lot easier to do other things like, you know, do the dustings and stuff and and and start, you know, Mikey Sanalicito coming on and stuff like that. Like Mike was a huge help.
00:26:00
RICK JAMES
Microside, yeah.
00:26:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Mike was huge. Like he got, he got on there doing dustings and like the first, I want to say the first two months we, we dropped a dusting.
00:26:08
RICK JAMES
Yeah, I believe so.
00:26:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cause yeah, guys were like right off the bat. The first eight to 10 episodes, guys were busting our balls to do more and more. So we're like, all right, we got to do like a a little mini, maybe 20 minute at what, what was supposed to be a 20 minute quick hit.
00:26:23
RICK JAMES
standard, oh, do a 20-minute thing. that's Everything's a minimum an hour and a half, it seems like, lately.
00:26:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
I know we're so bad, but once we get rolling, it's hard to stop, you know?
00:26:29
RICK JAMES
It's like...
00:26:32
RICK JAMES
Oh, i know. you you can't i mean You can't just say, well, oh we're done at this time. You've got to go with the flow and everything's just see what happens for the most part.
00:26:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
no no, you can't put a timer on it.
00:26:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
00:26:43
RICK JAMES
so Because that's when usually the good stuff happens, the deeper you get.
00:26:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, so I yeah, I think I think the i think where I thought the show was going has evolved and changed over time where now we're looking at all sorts of different things. i mean, after year one, you knew it was a hit already. It was very popular with the guys and gals in the industry.
00:27:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
um Everybody loved it. Everybody wanted more. And that's that trend has continued. Like no matter what the hell we do, it's not enough. Like they want more, you know, two episodes a week, three episodes a week.
00:27:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
and Like that'd be great if that was the only freaking thing we had to do. like ah I think we'd be more than happy to sit down and press play, you know, ah press record, right?
00:27:21
RICK JAMES
yes
00:27:24
RICK JAMES
Yeah, we can definitely do Yeah. but's Show me the money.
00:27:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
We could do it. Somebody make it so that it's the only thing we have to do in our lives. And we'll be happy to get you two to three episodes a week.
00:27:34
RICK JAMES
We can do this and this be snow mercs and we good.
00:27:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it. i Well, I mean, that is that the official name for the new business or what?
00:27:38
RICK JAMES
that's so lot That's all we need to do. It'll be fine.
00:27:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Are we doing Snowmercs or what what are we doing?
00:27:42
RICK JAMES
I think that's how that's what you came up with. here You usually come up with some good ideas.
00:27:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, I don't know. We'll see.
00:27:48
RICK JAMES
I like snow teams stick, but you say that's taken, so.
00:27:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
we'll no Snow Team 6 actually is a company. I just don't know where it's registered. I got to find it. But...
00:27:56
RICK JAMES
It doesn't matter. We're so Snow Team 6 Storm Chasers.
00:28:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, okay. There you go. Elves.
00:28:04
RICK JAMES
That's a whole name, man.
00:28:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Snow elves.
00:28:05
RICK JAMES
That's a whole name.
00:28:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Snow elves.
00:28:08
RICK JAMES
Snow Elves?
00:28:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, we just make it disappear.
00:28:09
RICK JAMES
Fuck.
00:28:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's what snow fairies.
00:28:11
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:28:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's what that's a bad name.
00:28:13
RICK JAMES
Oh, that should be Snow Fairies. There you go.
00:28:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
and so My brother what my brother I think I told that story on here once once ah his ah he used to go out and he lived in a complex with his wife and he thought Every time he went out after it snowed to get in his car go to work His driveway was shoveled and his car was dusted off until one
Personal Growth Through Podcasting
00:28:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
morning It wasn't and he came back in the house all pissed off like the snow guys You know nobody took care of the car or the driveway this morning and it was because his wife was sick And she's like, well, yeah, I'm sick.
00:28:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
He goes, no, the guys didn't come do it. She goes, who do you think's been doing it for the last two, three winters?
00:28:46
RICK JAMES
I remember the story.
00:28:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's like, the snow guys. She goes, no, you moron. i I do it for you before you go to work. I'm like, man, nobody has it easier than my brother. The snow fairies just magically come.
00:28:57
RICK JAMES
Jesus. This no fair.
00:28:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God.
00:29:00
RICK JAMES
is Is he the same guy that puts a thing of like the laundry on the floor and and it just disappears and comes back clean?
00:29:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Too funny.
00:29:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, without a doubt, dude, without a doubt.
00:29:06
RICK JAMES
Have we seen that have we seen that have you seen that meme?
00:29:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
When I visited, when I visit, I love my brother to death, but like we are two polar opposites.
00:29:09
RICK JAMES
Have seen that No.
00:29:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like he's great with tech and I'm not. And yet if you gave him a hammer and a nail and told him hit this nail with this hammer 10 times, or I'm going to pull this trigger on this gun, you might as well save yourselves both the time and pull the trigger.
00:29:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like it's just, we're polar opposites.
00:29:28
RICK JAMES
Thank you.
00:29:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
But I remember visiting him in Florida when he used to live down there ah before he got married. And I went to do a load of laundry and I went to go to put the stuff in the dryer and, you know, being a fireman, everything.
00:29:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
The first thing I do is I pull the lint tray, pull out the lint. Dude, when I tell you it was a solid fucking brick of lint that I pulled out of this tray, like eight inches long, three inches high.
00:29:49
RICK JAMES
oh
00:29:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm like, dude, what the, what the hell? but Anyway, we're getting getting a little off topic here, but ah yeah, I think it's evolved over time, definitely. What about you? Like, where did you see it going right off the bat after the first year and second year?
00:30:09
RICK JAMES
Well, where I saw it going, I mean, it's kind of, I really didn't, like I said, I didn't have any, I wanted to learn more about the industry, i guess.
00:30:19
RICK JAMES
and I wanted to to meet more people and see how people do, because I'm in my little, we're all in our little circles, you know.
00:30:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, everybody's in their bubble.
00:30:27
RICK JAMES
So that's that's what I really want, you know, I really wanted to see how other people are doing it and, you know, see what we can pick up from them. And obviously it's gone way beyond that for us that we would think would go.
00:30:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I i got it. You've helped me with that because like we're two very different people. You are by nature very outgoing. You love people. You love meeting new people. You love doing all that where I generally don't like people.
00:30:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
like yeah In the past before the show like I'm generally standoffish I I have my little crowd I have my little circle and then it's like everybody else just you know stay back but since the show like you've actually helped me like we have to be there I had to be different and I Started you know.
00:30:57
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:31:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hey listen. I'm an open book. Let's go and yeah it's been great I've met so many awesome people with this show everybody's been great they've they've taught us just as much as we've learned from you know that that we've taught them
00:31:28
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
00:31:31
RICK JAMES
I mean, I am who I am. I i don't how much shy away from it.
00:31:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
no i don't think either one of us check every box for everybody 100 100 and you know by our
00:31:36
RICK JAMES
I'm not everybody's cup of tea, but I i mean, I'll say hi to everybody, be nice everybody. and i i Hey, i I don't have an issue with it.
00:31:46
RICK JAMES
If you don't don' like me, that's fine.
00:31:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
numbers hundred percent and you know by our numbers
00:31:49
RICK JAMES
If you don't like me, I might like that more. I'll twist that fucking knife.
00:31:54
RICK JAMES
That's the kind of person I am.
00:31:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
There you go.
00:31:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
And that I think i think our listeners, I think, love that about both of us is, you know, that's that's fine by them. You know, we beat we are who we are and we're going to tell you exactly where we stand.
00:32:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
And, you know i think the guys most of the industry is like that. And I think that's why they they like the show so much because they a they never know what the hell we're going to say because there's not much that we won't say.
00:32:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
And be that we tell it how we see it, whether, you know, whether they agree or not, they're going to hear it.
00:32:16
RICK JAMES
Yeah, we don't either.
00:32:19
RICK JAMES
Yeah, i mean, that's kind of our motto here. You know, we tell everybody we're going to tell it how it is. Like it or not, we're not going to kiss somebody's ass for anything.
00:32:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Let it fly.
00:32:30
RICK JAMES
We're going to.
00:32:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Amen.
00:32:33
RICK JAMES
So, I mean, granted, you've kept me on a leash a few times where I might have gone off the deep air.
00:32:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
What?
00:32:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, we can't get sued. There's a line I draw and I just don't want to get sued. I don't like courtrooms.
00:32:44
RICK JAMES
Well, I don't either. i don't think I was that bad, but sometimes.
00:32:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man. There's just certain things that, you know, we can we can say but not really record. of legalities
00:32:58
RICK JAMES
so
00:33:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh man what has been your favorite episode to do so far
00:33:06
RICK JAMES
You know me, I always love the round
Favorite Episodes & Guest Highlights
00:33:08
RICK JAMES
tables. I love the round tables with the guys because You never know where they're going to go. and And it's just, you know, we we're the dudes. we're talking We're talking snow.
00:33:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
yep
00:33:17
RICK JAMES
We're just feeding off each other and going from one thing to the next. And we're always picking up something on each show. i Probably put one of the...
00:33:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yup.
00:33:29
RICK JAMES
Funnest ones, I guess, for me would probably be after a storm chasing episode of my crew. We were in our that' the shop.
00:33:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yup.
00:33:35
RICK JAMES
We did the one talk with all the guys there.
00:33:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was a good time.
00:33:37
RICK JAMES
That was pretty good to us snow.
00:33:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes, it was.
00:33:39
RICK JAMES
oh you I mean, don't know. Those guys always always crack me up. You know that. So, yeah.
00:33:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yup. They're great. They're good dudes. There are a lot of lot of entertainment coming at you when whenever you press record. They don't disappoint.
00:33:51
RICK JAMES
it you never know what they're to say or anything.
00:33:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
No.
00:33:54
RICK JAMES
I mean, it's for most of our shows, but especially with them, you, yeah.
00:33:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
no
00:33:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Those I pucker. Those I pucker like, my God, what are they going to like?
00:34:02
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:34:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, this could go bad really quick.
00:34:03
RICK JAMES
You want to see, he's waiting to push the pause button.
00:34:08
RICK JAMES
So.
00:34:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, you leave the door open just a little bit and you never know what Aaron and Jackie is going to say.
00:34:14
RICK JAMES
yeah yeah Yeah.
00:34:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
but
00:34:16
RICK JAMES
So.
00:34:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God. Yeah.
00:34:18
RICK JAMES
So.
00:34:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that was definitely fun.
00:34:18
RICK JAMES
How about you? What's one of your best shows?
00:34:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah The best episodes. Let's see. I have a lot of fun. ah you know, I mean, this goes without saying, I have a lot of fun with anything to do with Sean.
00:34:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, what um probably the the one after Equip Expo when we meet him.
00:34:33
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
00:34:37
RICK JAMES
I knew you were going there.
00:34:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, that was a lot of fun, just rehashing that trip and being able to record him snoring in the car so I could play it on the show.
00:34:45
RICK JAMES
The baby water buffalo?
00:34:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Baby water, Buffalo.
00:34:47
RICK JAMES
Baby water buffalo, yeah.
00:34:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
But yeah, I just, Sean is just the greatest. is He just, he, there's certain people that are in your life that for whatever reason, you just automatically love them and they just crack you the fuck up.
00:34:52
RICK JAMES
oh
00:34:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
And he is definitely, he is definitely one of those guys for me. so pretty much anything with Sean, but that probably that episode after he quip, what was it, 2024? When me and him drove it and I, well, I drove it.
00:35:12
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:35:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
He was unconscious for eight tenths of the trip, both ways.
00:35:14
RICK JAMES
Yeah. He drove it. He ate.
00:35:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah But probably the my favorite episode, just because of the personal impact he's had on my business, is probably Randy Strait's episode. Just hearing how you know the original, what I consider the godfather of modern snow there.
00:35:28
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:35:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
I mean, the guy's been doing it 40 years. He built that company, and then he built successful products division off it because of what they needed to do their job
Randy Strait's Influence in Snow Industry
00:35:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
better. Just hearing that story of 40 years doing this, like the industry's had, it had to have been easier.
00:35:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Back in the day, because I could not imagine.
00:35:48
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:35:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
I mean, I'm 20 years in. I could not imagine doing another 20 years with the state, the current state of the industry and battling that stress every freaking year. And now we got the newest stress.
00:36:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, now we're going to be short on salt every fucking year forever.
00:36:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:36:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, now you're going salt stress on top of everything else.
00:36:07
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:36:10
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:36:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know like slipping and falling lawsuits were not your number one concern that kept you up November to April before and now we're not even gonna be able to get salt you know ah it's just yeah the guy i spoke to today that's in the business he did not paint a rosy picture he says that this is just the beginning and it's gonna be worse and worse every year the infrastructure is broken
00:36:20
RICK JAMES
Right.
00:36:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
I said, oh, thank you very much. But ah yeah, but Randy Strait definitely ah for 40 years in the industry hearing that story and um the fact that he he was the one that kind of made me go with my business in a different direction years ago and switch over to equipment when nobody else in my area really was all equipment.
00:36:52
RICK JAMES
who
00:36:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
um He had a big personal impact on my business and it was great to hear his story. And ah I think it's important for the industry, for the guys out there, especially the young guys to hear that story.
00:37:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
know, that's how you build something enduring.
00:37:06
RICK JAMES
That's a That was a good one. The best part about that that one was we got to do that one twice.
00:37:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes.
00:37:13
RICK JAMES
And we we've said this before, but we got through that one twice. And Randy pretty much did word for word for two hours or whatever it was.
00:37:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was insane.
00:37:21
RICK JAMES
it was And it was fantastic. and I mean, it was pretty much the same. and But just to hear from Randy twice, and and obviously you can go back and re-listen to him, you're going to pick something up on it every time you listen to it.
00:37:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
00:37:34
RICK JAMES
He's just a wealth of knowledge. and But yeah, he's... He's the godfather.
00:37:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
He is. I remember I remember recording that episode and then I had to go to work the next day. And I remember being so pissed off all day that he just gave us two and a half hours of absolute gold.
00:37:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
And I'm like, we can't even produce it like nothing can be done to retrieve, you know, any kind any kind of audio quality on this.
00:37:53
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:38:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
And I remember calling Lucas and saying, dude, we're so fucked like i don't know that was so that was pure gold and we can't use any of it and he's like you know problem he just have him do it again he goes he'll literally redo that verbatim like he knows his story i'm like all right now thinking to myself there's no way it's gonna be that good the second time that he's gonna hit every story dude it was if it wasn't absolute verbatim It was like 98% verbatim because I think the first one was like two hours and eight minutes.
00:38:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
and The second one was two hours and 13 minutes. Like it was that close.
00:38:34
RICK JAMES
Yeah. It was great. Yeah. I don't think you missed anything.
00:38:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't think he did. he He, I think the order of a couple of the stories changed, but like he still nailed everything.
00:38:43
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:38:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was, he still covered every topic. It was great.
00:38:48
RICK JAMES
Just talking about it.
00:38:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
So yes.
00:38:49
RICK JAMES
I can, I can, I remember like it was yesterday, him saying, I mean, it was like, yeah, it was great.
00:38:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes.
00:38:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
verbatim don't worry about it he'll do it again verbatim like okay and he did it oh absolutely it was awesome it was so great so yeah thanks to randy for that one man it was uh it was a great episode and it was an episode that the industry needed to to hear i mean there's a you know if you have a mount rushmore of snow he his face has got to be one of those up there
00:38:57
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:39:02
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Same facial expressions. they I mean, people aren't seeing it, but it was great. Yeah. It was, yeah.
00:39:22
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:39:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
for sure so that uh that was a good one if you haven't heard that one yet guys go back and listen to that one i don't know offhand which one of the 156 it was but uh it's in there and uh that's definitely for the young guys uh definitely listen to that that's a lot of knowledge a lot of experience let's see pat salmon wants to know what is the hardest thing about doing the show it's
00:39:48
RICK JAMES
Getting it done every week, honestly.
Challenges in Podcast Production
00:39:51
RICK JAMES
The show, its I mean, I'm not lying.
00:39:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
definitely number one
00:39:54
RICK JAMES
The show is easy. I mean, once we get on here, we we you know we just talk and do our thing. And it's it's getting everything set up and to record.
00:39:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
yep
00:40:02
RICK JAMES
And we always have great plans do it early and get a couple in the bucket. So if we get busy, we can just put you know push the button.
00:40:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah it doesn't happen my when i went to disney let yeah we did
00:40:11
RICK JAMES
That does not happen. think we've done that like once. i think we did that like once or where we got like couple recordings. Yeah. Woo. Big.
00:40:21
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:40:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was it. One week in three years.
00:40:23
RICK JAMES
Three years three years in and we we did it once. Fucking snow guys.
00:40:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
True story. True story.
00:40:28
RICK JAMES
ah
00:40:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:40:29
RICK JAMES
But get it done. I mean, honestly, that's the heart for myself.
00:40:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
That is the, yeah.
00:40:33
RICK JAMES
i mean
00:40:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, that I think that that's definitely the hardest thing is just the grind of getting it done every week because we know we have to. We have to get content out there. And the hardest part about that is it has to not feel like it's a fucking chore to get it done.
00:40:48
RICK JAMES
Yeah, no, it's,
00:40:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
And it's never a chore. Like like you said, once we sit down and press record, it's all fun. This is like ah a therapy session from our weeks.
00:40:57
RICK JAMES
yeah, we get to talk every week and it's all good.
00:40:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it. But the actual the actual grind of, okay, we just finished this episode. We got to start thinking about next week. What the hell are we going to do? And it can't fucking suck.
00:41:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Because if it sucks, they're going to let you hear about it. And they're going stop listening. And, you know, that's the biggest thing. Like, just keeping quality content coming, keeping quality guests coming, trying to introduce new people into the show um and keep growing it.
00:41:25
RICK JAMES
And were and we're we're always up for suggestions for anybody who's got any suggestions.
00:41:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's the toughest part.
00:41:30
RICK JAMES
you know Send us messages, who what you want to hear, who you want to hear.
00:41:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:41:35
RICK JAMES
We'll try to get them on or whatever. that's that's part of You guys are part of the show, obviously, too, out there. What do you guys want to hear?
00:41:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. 100%.
00:41:41
RICK JAMES
We'll try to deliver for you. so
00:41:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
hundred per cent 100%. Matt Young has a question for just you. He wants to know, what's it like to be famous, Jeremy?
00:41:51
RICK JAMES
I wish I knew. i wish I knew Matty Muscles.
00:41:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Yeah, okay.
00:41:54
RICK JAMES
oh
00:41:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my gosh.
00:41:55
RICK JAMES
I wish I was as famous as everybody says I am because my life would be a lot easier.
00:41:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah In the right circles, you're extremely famous.
00:42:01
RICK JAMES
Oh, man. I want to be famous. I do. i want that fame. Who doesn't? Fucking Matty Muscles.
00:42:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's funny. ah What are
Building a Supportive Snow Professionals Community
00:42:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
you most proud of of with the show?
00:42:10
RICK JAMES
Oh, well, yeah.
00:42:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's a good one. That's interesting.
00:42:14
RICK JAMES
Me? um All my friendships. The friendships I made. um That's proudest thing, I think, is is a all the people I've met and the relationships I've got to have now with all these people across the world.
00:42:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. That's definitely a big one. um For me, i mean, obviously the relationships are number one, but If overall what I'm most proud about is that we are not the first snow podcast that came around.
00:42:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah So I think the thing that makes me most proud is we are doing it longer. We are doing it more often and we are doing it at a far higher listenership.
00:42:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
But then any anybody else has ever attempted anything in snow with this. And we've created a place that snow guys look to. that they you know kind of rally around and they they you know they've we've created a community that basically can help guys out every week and get them information that that hopefully helps their business and by extension their lives.
00:43:16
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:43:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
So I'm definitely proud is that that we've been able to we've been able to do what other people haven't been able to do. and And if they think it's fucking easy, yeah It ain't easy. So, I mean, there's plenty of, there's what, seven or eight other snow podcasts out there that have been, of three of three or four of them have been around longer than us, and they don't have a tenth of the listenership we do, and they're not doing it as often as we do, and they're you know they're not sitting here for hours at a time you know every week doing it. So it's not easy, and I challenge anybody to try and, you know, if you think it's easy, do it
00:43:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
you don't see how you do hopefully it's good and hopefully they don't tell you it sucks otherwise you could be done after six episodes actually actually i think they did another episode i think there's one more now after a two-month or three-month hiatus they're they're back they're back but but yeah thank god all 140 people were extremely disappointed
00:44:05
RICK JAMES
Oh,
00:44:09
RICK JAMES
they're back. Oh, this was nuts.
00:44:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
that's that's that's my only shot of the day but uh yeah that's probably what i'm most proud of is that the guys the the guys out there and gals in the industry have really you know rallied around it and it's become a place to uh it's become the place i think uh for information and for you know collaboration and and that's pretty cool that's definitely pretty cool
00:44:20
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:44:38
RICK JAMES
I think so. It really has. talk about our community quite a bit. of you know We can put a message out to whatever and hopefully usually get an answer fairly quickly from somebody.
00:44:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hold on.
00:44:53
RICK JAMES
So, I mean, that's that's pretty impressive. Yeah.
00:44:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, lot of guys like message us with something we don't have the answer to or don't know. It's not our forte. But then like we've we've said before, we we can pretty much now after three years of meeting so many different cool guys and and girls in this industry, we literally can in five minutes think, oh, you know who's really good at that?
Industry Events & Podcast Influence
00:45:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
So and so. And we're going to put you in contact with them.
00:45:19
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:45:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
And boom, you're solved the problem.
00:45:23
RICK JAMES
And it's pretty much professional too. It's not like some of these other sites that are just bunch of smart asses on it. And obviously we have that too, but not not like a lot of these, it's not like like, not like that, or, you know, actually people are trying to help people instead tear everybody down, know, so.
00:45:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, no, it's not really a piranha tank.
00:45:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Yep, I think it's definitely a more welcoming environment. Ooh.
00:45:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
This one's from my wife, I think. what
00:45:52
RICK JAMES
Gina.
00:45:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
What has been your favorite event that you've attended in the last three years of doing the show?
00:45:57
RICK JAMES
i had that on my list.
00:45:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, did you? All right, cool.
00:45:59
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:46:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
What he got
00:46:01
RICK JAMES
Favorite event. Oh. I don't know. It's got to be My favorite event was that we, when we flew out the storm that's on the on the private plane at that time.
00:46:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, okay the storks Yeah That was cool Yep That was the first storks that was the first storks
00:46:17
RICK JAMES
And that was just Storks and, yeah, not Storm, Storks. And that was, you know, that's when we first kind of all got together and and just kind of, no, I mean, that, that was, that was the first Storks, yeah, I mean, that we, we did, but, uh,
00:46:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
that we did yeah you know
00:46:35
RICK JAMES
But honestly, probably the the best event was we went up to your, we all met each other you're at the White House there.
00:46:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah that was mine yeah that was mine the first Simon the first Simon we did after the show started absolutely no no could have a house full of serial killers we have no idea but they all plow snow
00:46:43
RICK JAMES
That's your, yeah. Yeah, that was where nobody knew anybody. We were like, oh, let's just meet it. Let's just see what the fuck happens here.
00:46:59
RICK JAMES
Yeah, yeah.
00:47:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:47:00
RICK JAMES
We'll die together.
00:47:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
My wife's like, do you have any of these guys like names and addresses in case, you know, you disappear or something?
00:47:02
RICK JAMES
well
00:47:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm like, no, not really. Sean's from Jersey. I know that.
00:47:09
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:47:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Jeremy's from North Dakota. yeah There's a guy from Albany, Matt. yeah since I don't know anybody.
00:47:16
RICK JAMES
yeah yeah obviously mean we've had so many great events we've gone to them all all these shows and stuff are just they just keep getting better and better and i guess our posse gets bigger and bigger which is fun too i mean which gets
00:47:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
We're just we're we're throwing it. We're throwing it out there and see what sticks. And it was great, man. It was a good time.
00:47:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
let Let me ask you actually a question that just came to my mind on this.
00:47:38
RICK JAMES
You
00:47:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Do you think, and this would be, I would be very interested to talk to different guys like, you know, Gene and Tony from S&S and, you know, some of the guys that have the annual events just on the smaller side, not the Simons or the...
00:47:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
um not the Simons or the Equips, because they don't give a shit about you know about us. But like the smaller events, do you think that like they keep raising their bar every year, making the event better and better because they know we're going to talk about it, and they like they're afraid to get called out?
00:48:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't know. like But they always seem to do it.
00:48:14
RICK JAMES
i don't know
00:48:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Every year is better.
00:48:16
RICK JAMES
that's
00:48:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
like Most people...
00:48:18
RICK JAMES
That's the question for them.
00:48:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, and I'd love to hear that one day. Like, ask Gene or ask Tony, like, you know, or or even Jordan and and the Storm Gang. Like, are you guys, like, constantly trying to raise the bar just because it' how you are or because you know that, you know, we're talking about, we're going to talk about it, and you just want to keep giving us new stuff to love and and talk about in a positive note? Because let's face it, most events, if they find a the the combination of people will attend it and we'll make money on it.
00:48:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
They usually keep that formula and don't tweak anything. I.E. Saima, you know like it's just the same. It's the same show every year. Nothing changes. Nothing's new. They tweak little tiny things here and there, but it's nothing revolutionary or earth shatteringly different every year.
00:49:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Whereas the smaller events seem to be going in a different direction every year and doing drastic improvements. Yeah.
00:49:11
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:49:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
So it's it's it's interesting. I'd like to actually ask that question to those guys one day and just see what the you know if the if the level.
00:49:18
RICK JAMES
That would be a good question.
00:49:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:49:20
RICK JAMES
i also. I don't, I'll be cocky. I mean, I've never tried it before, but I'll try it, you know?
00:49:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay. Oh, okay. Who, you?
00:49:30
RICK JAMES
I mean, I think, not me.
00:49:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
No. ah
00:49:33
RICK JAMES
I don't, I think I, I got a little up to the persona, man.
00:49:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm the fucking best.
00:49:39
RICK JAMES
I mean, I, I think we've had pretty huge part of growing these shows too with our audience.
00:49:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, shit.
00:49:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's funny.
00:49:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, sure. I think so.
00:49:44
RICK JAMES
So, um and I think, and I, and I,
00:49:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't think that's cocky. I think that's actually fact. I think that's pretty a well-known fact.
00:49:48
RICK JAMES
And I think they would probably agree with us on that too, but you know maybe. i don't
00:49:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
They definitely would. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's, but that's our job to help, you know, help get the word out and help promote these, these events, these grassroots, you know, the, the regional events.
00:49:57
RICK JAMES
Yeah, exactly. They're
00:50:02
RICK JAMES
the fucking best.
00:50:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
If, if guys don't know about them, then how are they going to go? You know, how are these events going to grow?
00:50:08
RICK JAMES
Right.
00:50:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
And that's kind of our job is like the, uh, I don't know, the news station of snow. Yeah.
00:50:16
RICK JAMES
mean We got guys going to these shows flying in there. We used to be, you know, like regional shows and people are flying across the country to go to them now and stuff, you know, just.
00:50:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. What did Jordan say? Over 100 people flew in the storm last year for Storm Day or whatever it was.
00:50:29
RICK JAMES
Yeah, something like that.
00:50:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
was a lot.
00:50:30
RICK JAMES
Yeah. I mean.
00:50:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
We got some more questions actually coming in. Why you actually started the podcast?
00:50:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'll put that into better English. Why did you actually start the podcast? Yep.
00:50:46
RICK JAMES
We started It was kind of, well, we talk every day. We we talked every day about just snow.
00:50:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Yep.
00:50:52
RICK JAMES
And we're like, I think we just said, hey, we should, let's do a podcast. Because I was like, everybody else is doing these podcasts.
00:50:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Thank you.
00:51:00
RICK JAMES
Why can't we do one about snow? You know, it was.
00:51:02
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:51:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:51:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
And I think it was, i still, in my mind, I still give credit to Ben on one of the party calls when we were breaking each other's balls about, you know, whatever we were talking about that day on the phone and you guys were out and you know, they were, it's your typical, whenever you get a New Yorker, that's funny in the Midwest, he's, he's somehow funnier.
00:51:14
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:51:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like you could be an average funny guy in New York, but when you go to the Midwest, you're the, one of the funniest guys ever. Just a different kind of humor. I think Ben said, like dude, I would pay to listen to you guys fucking go at it like this all fucking day.
00:51:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, you guys should do a podcast.
00:51:37
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:51:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh i For whatever reason, that sticks out in my head. And Gina definitely named it.
00:51:43
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:51:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
that was definite Gina definitely named it Oh,
00:51:45
RICK JAMES
yeah Gina, Gina, I was getting, i was getting on an airplane. Well, whatever day it was, one of the airplanes I got on last week to go out East and the stewardess, she's like, I have my snow jobs hat and my coat on.
00:51:59
RICK JAMES
She's like,
00:51:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Of course.
00:52:00
RICK JAMES
ay ida and to look at you I had to look at your deal a couple times.
00:52:03
RICK JAMES
I wass like i said, what were you what were you thinking? I said, what were you thinking? at sounds She just starts laughing.
00:52:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Everybody does.
00:52:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Everybody does that.
00:52:11
RICK JAMES
I'm like, we didn't even come up with this
00:52:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nope.
00:52:14
RICK JAMES
Steve's wife did.
00:52:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it.
00:52:18
RICK JAMES
ah
00:52:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man. But that I think why we actually started it that we we both knew there was a need. There was there was we both we both wish there was something like this that we could listen to.
00:52:24
RICK JAMES
Yep,
00:52:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Right. Like, I mean, we talk snow every day on the phone and we're both like there is no there is nothing out there.
00:52:29
RICK JAMES
yep.
00:52:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
Guys are not talking snow like there are hardcore snow guys like me and you and guys are not talking snow like nearly enough, especially in the offseason. And we just we wanted to hear something like this.
00:52:44
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:52:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
So there was nothing out there to do that. So we just kind of said, yeah, let's fucking do it then.
00:52:51
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:52:51
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:52:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Kyle Morton.
00:52:53
RICK JAMES
um what was your first What was your first impression on me then?
00:52:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Go ahead, Chief.
00:52:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
First impression of you was via DM, if I remember correctly, because I think I caught a glimpse of the Arctic snowing before it was actually released, and I wanted to know about that.
00:53:02
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:53:08
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:53:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then i you had something else. that i I always caught the little secret shit that nobody was supposed to know was coming out or or being developed, and you'd put little glimpses of it, just you know just enough that, well, somebody would put a little glimpse of it out there
00:53:20
RICK JAMES
Not me.
00:53:23
RICK JAMES
not Not me. i would never do something like that.
00:53:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah in your video and I like I know what that is but that's not supposed to be out yet like oh He's got one.
00:53:27
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:53:32
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:53:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Let me ask, ah you know, and I think I DM about the snow wing and said, you know Hey how I've been waiting for this for like five freaking years. How is it and you know, you gave me that
00:53:41
RICK JAMES
Yep. I remember. I remember when you DM me, ah I was driving down the road. I remember you said, can I call? And i you called and I think we fucking ended up.
00:53:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, you were like dude call anytime you want to talk snow call I'm like, all right, fine.
00:53:50
RICK JAMES
I like if
00:53:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm not doing anything right now
00:53:55
RICK JAMES
think we talked for like two hours that first night.
00:53:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes, first night.
00:53:57
RICK JAMES
I'm just driving in circles. I was like, I was going home, but I guess I'm just going keep driving in circles here.
00:54:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep, yep. I was actually, I was sitting on my front porch.
00:54:03
RICK JAMES
So talk to some.
00:54:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep, it was, ah yeah, it was a great conversation, and it it was very apparent very early on.
00:54:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:54:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
We liked the same things. We hated the same things, and we were very much on the same level with 95% of the stuff we were talking about, so It just, ah yeah, and then we were just, like, I think at the time we felt really, at least I did, i felt really alone. Like, nobody was as into snow as I am in this area. Like, I don't have anybody to talk snow 24 hours a day. Even my own guys are like, all right, enough with the fucking snow. Like, we're we're good. We don't need to talk about it anymore. It's fucking April.
00:54:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
And ah ah you were kind of the same way. Like, you were all snow all the time. Like, that's all you wanted to talk about. So it just made sense. We're like our own support group. We can talk. ah
00:54:51
RICK JAMES
Yeah. that's You're not wrong. You're not wrong.
00:54:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
And ah that was it.
00:54:53
RICK JAMES
And we found a bunch of other people that want to do that too. so
00:54:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Exactly. And who knew that there were, you know, 89,000 other guys out there that were the same way.
00:55:04
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:55:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
But, I mean, it was kind of was kind of stupid for us to not think that there were tons of other guys out. Like, we knew there were guys out there, but the numbers... Like when the when the listens started coming in, you're like, holy shit, like there's this many dudes out there that are this hardcore about snow.
00:55:13
RICK JAMES
Right.
00:55:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then you look back and I'm like, yeah, you got to be hardcore about snow. This thing. This sucks. Like you you really got to be all in there or this sucks.
00:55:29
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:55:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, it's not an easy industry to be in.
00:55:33
RICK JAMES
It's a big support group.
00:55:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
uh kyle martin wants to know what sucked in year number one if you can remember uh any issues in year one that that come to mind for you
00:55:48
RICK JAMES
It seemed like we had lot of technical issues.
00:55:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
he says let's see load yeah that that was definitely he he says like examples load downloads doubt tech issues time drain so yeah the getting to know the platform definitely yeah
00:56:00
RICK JAMES
The platform. Yeah. I don't, i mean, none of the other stuff. I mean guests and stuff, that's all good and fine. it was just, it was all more, can you talk? was technical stuff, trying to make sure we get it all.
00:56:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:56:12
RICK JAMES
And honestly, you're the one doing all that on the back end. So you're the one that's,
00:56:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
And not doing it well half the time.
00:56:18
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:56:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's it's a lot of a lot of learning on the go.
00:56:18
RICK JAMES
So I'm just here. I'm just a pretty face. I'm just eye candy.
00:56:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's a lot of learning on the go, but it's i will I got to thank my friend Bobby there for for hooking us up with this platform because it does it does make it easy for two non-tech guys to do a podcast every week. ah the it's It's actually evolved. It's gotten better. It seems every time I get comfortable with the setup as it is, they change it and update it.
00:56:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
um But every update they've made, like, I think to the point now where we can have, like, 10 guests on if we want at the same time. um
00:56:55
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:56:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
And still get help on the production side from the automatic producing. So it's it's been good. But, yeah, the the tech was probably in year one because... ah The numbers were off the chart in in year one. They were much higher than we both ever anticipated. So that wasn't definitely a problem.
00:57:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
um There was no doubt after the first two months, we knew you know we knew we had a hit and we were already getting you know we were already getting in people sponsoring after two months. So it kind of took off in a hurry. So there wasn't much time to doubt it.
00:57:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Time drain is definitely that is definitely a a problem not a problem, but that's definitely a consideration
00:57:36
RICK JAMES
Not a problem. It's just something, you know, because we both have full-time jobs and, you know, we got to record usually at night, late at night, once the kids go to bed or whatever.
00:57:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep Yes, sir it's what we do yeah There you go Let's see what else you got
00:57:45
RICK JAMES
But, I mean, obviously, we're not bitching about it. We get it done. We've gotten done for three years and we'll keep getting it done until we can do this full-time. Then we just do it during the middle of the day.
00:57:57
RICK JAMES
what ah I got one. What's one thing I do really well as a co-host?
00:58:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
what's one thing you do really well as a co-host you show up every week no you are you are very good at the like when i'm being serious and i'm talking seriously you will have the uncanny ability to just put in this like dry one line fucking like punch that'll just crack me up like There's been a ton of times you've done that where i'm I'm on a rant or something and you just drop this fucking one liner and it just cracks me up and just breaks me out of my out of my rant a little bit.
00:58:09
RICK JAMES
Aw.
00:58:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
So you're pretty good at that. When I get too serious, you kind of get me back into the ah into the the joyful realm, if you will.
00:58:47
RICK JAMES
Yeah. You steer the show, obviously. You're the hear the guy. but You keep the show moving forward. and Like I say, I'm just the eye candy here.
00:58:56
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:58:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, God.
00:58:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah ah We I think we work very well with each other. i think we I think the two personalities are perfect. Like ah the it's just, you know, we it just works. It really does work. And we both come from different corners of the the country. And.
00:59:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
We both are raised differently. You are very much, even though you, you are, everything's got to be done. Now you are on a totally different, like Midwestern laid back type.
00:59:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, we'll get it done. Whereas New York, it's like, it got it has to be done yesterday. Like, where are those sweatshirts? It's been two days. Why don't we have them yet?
00:59:36
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
00:59:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
know, you're like chill, dude.
00:59:38
RICK JAMES
Calm down.
00:59:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, no, no, no. There's no chill. Like, where is it?
00:59:41
RICK JAMES
it
00:59:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Everything has to be done yesterday in, in the Northeast and New York and, it's but i think it works man it it seems to work for everybody out there they love listening and i think we uh we crack each other up that also helps like we both think we're very but each other is very very funny so it's a lot of fun to record with you every week um what do you oh let's see uh what was the moment you realized oh shit this is becoming something
01:00:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think like we week one.
01:00:16
RICK JAMES
I think... aye Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Honestly, when we saw those initial, like I remember calling you and saying, dude, we got like 2,000 listens in the first freaking three days.
01:00:22
RICK JAMES
yeah
01:00:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
like holy shit.
01:00:29
RICK JAMES
Yeah, i remember is getting quite a few DMs after that first show, as you did too, about people.
01:00:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Yep.
01:00:35
RICK JAMES
Very eye-opening and surprising. and So yeah it was pretty early, yeah. Obviously, like you're saying, we we pretty much, yeah, it kicked it off pretty pretty fast and furious, honestly. Yeah.
01:00:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
i think the I think the real like like, holy shit, this is like people are listening to this and it's and they're actually like applying it to their life. I think was that moment was very early on too, but I think it was with Muscox actually. They were at a trade show like maybe a month into the show, maybe four or five episodes in. They were at a trade show in I think Minnesota.
01:01:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
And a guy came up to the booth and said, my son, yeah, my son was listening to this snow podcast.
01:01:13
RICK JAMES
Northern green as well.
01:01:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
And he said that for what I do, i think he was like university one of the colleges or something. And he said, for what I i do, i need a i need to check these out and buy a couple of these.
01:01:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
And he went to them. And I remember them calling me saying, dude, this guy walks up said, my son told me he was listening to this snow jobs podcast thing and said, I got to check out these muskoxes. And he ended up buying two of them.
01:01:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm like, good for you guys. And I was like, holy shit. Like, wow, we got some, ah like, people are going to check out just because we're, you know, we' we've said that the product is good. Like, that's pretty cool.
01:01:51
RICK JAMES
Yeah, no, it's been been great. Like you say, took off right from the beginning, honestly. and then you know we but um work You and I are the same.
01:02:02
RICK JAMES
We don't like to let people down. We're going get on here and try to give you a good show and give you some good information and but's put stuff out there.
01:02:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:02:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hmm. How much of you both? Oh, who's this? matt you Robert. All right, Robert thing. Our boys are our main or inner circle here. I'll send that in questions. How much of you guys both seen the industry change year over year of the podcast so far?
01:02:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
So list one major change in the rising tide that you've seen. What do you think?
01:02:37
RICK JAMES
The collapse collaboration of everybody. You know, back when I started, everything was pretty secretive and everything like that.
01:02:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:02:45
RICK JAMES
Even in the last few, I don't know, everybody seems to want to help everybody now, not like hold their card so close to them.
01:02:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:02:52
RICK JAMES
you know mean, at the end of day, we're all pushing snow. It's getting to that pile the same way for the most part. Yeah.
01:03:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:03:01
RICK JAMES
It's just how you're going to get it there and do it. it's There's plenty of work out there for everybody. And I think people are starting realize that. i mean, obviously, still got we still got the clowns out there. but
01:03:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Indeed. um Well, but that's actually one of mine. So for year one, i think for me, the the the biggest change I saw was like what Jeremy said, the amount of collaboration, the amount of guys that were involved kind of rallying around the whole snow jobs nation thing and helping each other um with either, hey, how do you bid this type of property? How do you, what's in your contracts? Like like stuff that guys might be good at pushing snow where they might not be as in-depth as maybe financial, you know, financial acuity or, you know, or contract language or verbiage. Like maybe they don't have a good lawyer. Maybe they don't know what needs to go in a contract.
01:03:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
in certain areas or or doing certain types of properties. So the fact that so many guys were like Mike Sanalacito showing guys how to map out a property properly, you know, on ah on site maps and stuff like that was ah that was great.
01:04:10
RICK JAMES
That was good.
01:04:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
like So I think the collaboration was definitely year one. Yeah. And that that has only expanded and gotten greater. I think year two, the the biggest change I saw, or at least I was told about, was how many of the Nationals were ah not happy with us because they were finding it much harder to get contractors to take their low-ball bullshit offers.
01:04:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
So I kind of, I like that a lot.
01:04:36
RICK JAMES
That's too bad. That's a good one. yep
01:04:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man.
01:04:42
RICK JAMES
Yep. People are listening.
01:04:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's good. It's it's a good thing. And, ah you know, get guys to stop being taken advantage of. And, you know, it's that's a good thing. That's a good thing for the industry. That's a good thing for all snow guys is, you know, keep the keep the bulk of the money in the hands of the people that are doing the work and having the liability.
01:05:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
you that's uh so that's that's i like that change uh i don't know if it's changed yet but i know that it's definitely not as easy easy for them to find contractors as it was three years ago i can tell you that because i've been told that by more than one person in the national company that you you assholes have made my job a lot harder ah but ah ah
01:05:05
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
01:05:18
RICK JAMES
We're
01:05:27
RICK JAMES
doing something right now.
01:05:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
i'll I'll wear that t-shirt at this time. I'm just asshole across my chest. I'll i'll wear it very proudly then. ah
01:05:36
RICK JAMES
I got one in here.
01:05:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
What do he got?
01:05:37
RICK JAMES
says, best road trip or travel moment tied to the podcast.
01:05:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh it's gotta to be sean snoring that's gotta be um shit i'm trying to think let me quickly i mean definitely like you said that the first time a trip when you know we all got together for the first time that that'll always be one of my favorite memories that was that was a good time um
01:05:44
RICK JAMES
I was going to say, I'm guessing...
01:05:56
RICK JAMES
I pulled over
01:06:00
RICK JAMES
and then you trooper pulled us all over. That's kind of fun.
01:06:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, the trooper pulling us all over in a convoy because we were apparently illegally parked on the side of the ah the interstate while doing 75 miles an hour. But, the yeah, that was speed week, man.
01:06:12
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:06:15
RICK JAMES
Yup.
01:06:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Freaking speed week.
01:06:17
RICK JAMES
Yup. Yup.
01:06:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
01:06:19
RICK JAMES
Sean never pay that bill.
01:06:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't know, man. He may still be wanted in New York. Who knows? I don't know. but um Favorite travel. Honestly...
01:06:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think Pittsburgh was pretty cool. I had a good time in Pittsburgh.
01:06:38
RICK JAMES
That's cool.
01:06:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
um
01:06:40
RICK JAMES
Pittsburgh is cool. That was fun. We had a great house. We had a good time.
01:06:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
We did.
01:06:44
RICK JAMES
Flying
01:06:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was a good pad. That was a good pad. um Yeah.
01:06:49
RICK JAMES
to Storks was fun in a private plane. That was fun.
01:06:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
I bet that was.
01:06:51
RICK JAMES
But then the the road trip me and Andy took down to Equip couple years. Well, that first year we all got together down there.
01:06:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. Yeah, that was the same trip.
01:06:58
RICK JAMES
that i want that yeah that was that was ah That was a fun trip.
01:06:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was the Sean snoring trip.
01:07:03
RICK JAMES
We we had a good time down there. Silver Bullet. Yeah, please give it a
01:07:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
I would have been better off if I drove eight hours out of my way to go pick up Robert and drive down with Robert and
Reminiscing Past Trips & Light-hearted Moments
01:07:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sean. Because, I mean, man, there was no company with Sean. It was just, he'd wake up for, he'd wake up to use the bathroom and get something to eat. And then he'd be right back, baby water buffalo, right back out.
01:07:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's so funny, though.
01:07:27
RICK JAMES
hug. Yep.
01:07:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's my boy. ah What about you? You like the, that was your your favorite with Andy?
01:07:35
RICK JAMES
Yeah, that was a fun trip. and we That was a long trip, but it was, yeah, we had a good time.
01:07:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was a good trip. That was a good trip. We did the ah Top Gun party. We had the Top Gun party at the at the house that year.
01:07:45
RICK JAMES
Yep.
01:07:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was before Jim Beam.
01:07:47
RICK JAMES
Yep.
01:07:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then what did we do the next night?
01:07:48
RICK JAMES
Yep.
01:07:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
We had another we have another thing the next night. That was...
01:07:56
RICK JAMES
I remember.
01:07:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Shoot.
01:07:59
RICK JAMES
The next year was really good.
01:07:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
i
01:08:00
RICK JAMES
Next year down there was good.
01:08:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
01:08:01
RICK JAMES
We had the plow right, plow right.
01:08:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was Jim. Yep. Plowrite, then Jim Beam, then Arctic, right?
01:08:06
RICK JAMES
then Arctic, yeah
01:08:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that was a good year. That definitely...
01:08:10
RICK JAMES
yeah.
01:08:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm actually kind of disappointed I didn't go this year, but we were burned. I mean, I know I was.
01:08:18
RICK JAMES
It was... we're Yeah, we had a lot going on, so...
01:08:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
But it's not bad to take a year off from certain stuff, but you always feel like you miss something now, going to these things.
01:08:27
RICK JAMES
Yeah, little FOMO.
01:08:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. And, you know, I'm sure Brasilio's steakhouse there in and Louisville definitely missed Sean.
01:08:39
RICK JAMES
Yeah. God, I don't need to go to that place again.
01:08:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
but Just keep it coming. I don't think his card ever went red. It was it was ah three and a half hours of green card.
01:08:49
RICK JAMES
are all meat, meat sweats. He's still just shoveling.
01:08:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Keep bringing me meat. jesus Oh, man. ah Let's see. I got one more here.
Expanding the Podcast & Collaborations
01:09:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Matt Young wants to know what is next? What's the future?
01:09:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh
01:09:10
RICK JAMES
Uh, what is, i mean, didn't, we're just going to try to keep growing this machine, keep it moving, trying to give everybody an in the industry what they want.
01:09:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nope.
01:09:22
RICK JAMES
Hopefully keep getting more and more sponsors that want to get on board and, you know, join the club here and we can blow this thing up a little bit more. Maybe we got some things in our back pocket.
01:09:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:09:33
RICK JAMES
We got hopefully we will happen.
01:09:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
They're coming. They're coming. um Yeah, i think to I think the same. It's continue to continue to give the guys out there what they want and get bigger without getting watered down.
01:09:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
without getting generic. um I think that, like Jeremy said, you know not just sponsors, but partners that want to do things with the show. Like Boss just came on board. They want to do their own series within the show. Arctic's doing their own series within the show. like That's how everybody wins. the The guys out there that are all saying we want more and more and more episodes every week, every month, um all year long.
01:10:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
The only way that happens is if we get, you know, if we start more series, you know, like that, where each, you know, whatever the focus is for that series, then okay, then you need a, you know, you need somebody to back that. Because again, it's a lot more time. It's a lot more effort. You know, it takes, it takes resources. And um like boss has been great because,
01:10:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
They're very collaborative and they want, you know, they know what information they want to get out. They know how they what they want to talk about. They know the messages they want snow guys to hear about. And it's been great. And Arctic's the same way. They know, you know, what snow guys need to hear educational wise. They know what they should hear.
01:11:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
And they're great partners in that way. So I think that's how you keep growing the show and giving the guys what they want, which is more and more episodes. You keep finding partners that are in line with you and share your share the values of the show and understand what the show is and what the show isn't.
01:11:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
And, you know, I think that's how you do that. ah You will definitely you will definitely see a snow jobs trade show. I'm putting that out there. You're going to see it.
01:11:28
RICK JAMES
I don't know if you're going to put that out there
Potential Snow Jobs Trade Show
01:11:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah you're you're gonna see it it's coming um if these winters i lost a little bit of steam with it the last two winters because we've had such freaking crazy winters like i keep saying to jeremy like dude if you came to me and wanted to do a podcast either this winter or last winter i would have told you wait till fucking may you know call me back in may because it's just we're so busy but um ah That is definitely something I'm focused on doing. It's because so many, not just people, not just the snow guys, the snow guys obviously all want it. They want another trade show that they can choose to go to. And I was shocked at how many manufacturers are asking us to do one.
01:11:30
RICK JAMES
yet.
01:12:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, that's that's pretty cool.
01:12:16
RICK JAMES
Yep. Same.
01:12:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, when you got an immediate backing saying, you guys, put you guys whatever you need, we're in, just get it get it done. Like, get yourselves you know get yourselves a trade show.
01:12:25
RICK JAMES
Yep.
01:12:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's pretty cool.
01:12:28
RICK JAMES
There's something missing out there then. So.
01:12:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. i mean it's ah there's I mean, there's plenty of room in the industry. for It's such a huge industry, yet it's so small in a lot of areas.
01:12:37
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
01:12:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
And how is there only one trade show for this whole industry, really, that's only focused on snow?
01:12:38
RICK JAMES
Great.
01:12:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
and you know it's don't know
01:12:49
RICK JAMES
But we've gotten a lot of regional ones the last few years that popped up, which have been awesome.
01:12:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
and then that's awesome
01:12:55
RICK JAMES
and theyve awesome everybody Everybody loves them.
01:12:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:12:57
RICK JAMES
so
01:12:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
That is absolutely awesome. And we will always back the regional shows and we will always support them. And that's why, like, you know, whatever you guys need, if you if you have a regional show or a regional event, get us the information. We will get it out.
01:13:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
We'll get it out that week. We'll put it on our socials. We'll put it on the show. You know, you will have the exposure, you know, from us ah to to hopefully help you grow it because every – Listen, it's great just to get together with guys that all share the same passion and stuff.
01:13:28
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:13:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Even if you don't learn anything, just meet, you know, 20 new people that are, you can put in your phone and you can put in your own personal support group for when everything's fucking breaking.
01:13:35
RICK JAMES
All
01:13:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's fucking 10 below. And, uh, you know, your shit's going sideways.
01:13:42
RICK JAMES
right.
01:13:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know, that's, uh, that's not a bad thing. So I think that's cool, but yeah, we will have that.
01:13:50
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:13:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then uh, I don't know, man. I don't know where else it goes. i think you will see another company from us, uh, doing something else in the industry shortly.
01:14:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Um,
01:14:08
RICK JAMES
ah yeahp Yeah, that's coming.
01:14:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, you know, we have storm chasing that we do with storm equipment so that, you know, we're obviously going to keep going with that. That's a hit. um And then, you know, you never know. Things come up like that's that's been the craziest thing of the last year is how many how many companies or how many people that are like important people in the industry have pitched us stuff.
01:14:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, hey, do you guys think you might want to do this?
01:14:33
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
01:14:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, we'd be interested in doing this with you.
01:14:36
RICK JAMES
Great.
01:14:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, wow. Like, all right. Well, it's it's worth thinking about. You know, if it helps the industry, then, yeah, that's why we're doing this. But it's ah pretty cool. Pretty cool.
01:14:50
RICK JAMES
one just coming also.
01:14:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Good. What do you got? Mm-hmm.
01:14:53
RICK JAMES
Changing, shifting gears just a little bit. Has the podcast ever helped you through a rough rough patch, rough season, professionally or or personally or both?
Personal Support & Community Engagement
01:15:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
um I think the podcast helps me on a weekly basis and and on a daily basis as well because you can never... yeah The community out there never lets you get down for a day because it's constant. You wake up in the morning, your phone already has 25, 30 DMs by 6 a.m.
01:15:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
You have to constantly tend to that. like the The amount of guys that are... giving you their time every week and giving you their, you know, they're they're taking the time to write you emails. They're taking time to write you text messages, DMs on Instagram, send you their stories for reposting on Instagram.
01:15:45
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
01:15:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's pretty fucking cool. Like when you stop to think about it, like, this show has got such a following around it that's really awesome it doesn't really if it makes any sense it doesn't give you any time to be down about anything like it's really uh i don't know i i see it as every day it's there are days that are shit sure they're shit for a lot of different reasons but the community really freaking gets you back on track in a hurry
01:16:12
RICK JAMES
100%. Yeah, I've had a – this has helped me. I got a lot of shit going on. And this – I mean, this has helped me a ton. I don't know where I'd be, honestly, without it.
01:16:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
sure
01:16:22
RICK JAMES
with You know, without the guys in our group and just having something to look forward to every week.
01:16:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
absolutely
01:16:28
RICK JAMES
you know there's a You know, there's a lot of shit going on, so.
01:16:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, no, and it's... I mean, it the whole community, like, the whole snow industry is one giant support group. Like, you're just... A, every one of us is going to need it at one point one time or another.
01:16:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
We're never... Nothing is ever going to be perfect for every snow guy all the time. So you're always going to need to call up somebody else and bitch and fucking have them talk you down. And, you know, so...
01:16:52
RICK JAMES
Yep, 100%.
01:16:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
and And just pressing record once a week and just laughing our asses off for an hour and a half like fucking hyenas.
01:16:53
RICK JAMES
Right.
01:16:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, that's definitely a a therapeutic thing. And we're talking about stuff we love doing. We're talking about people we love. We're talking about an industry we love. So it's it's very easy to have a...
01:17:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah you know, a weekly a weekly release, basically, and just kind of reset the clock.
01:17:13
RICK JAMES
in the
01:17:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
No matter what kind of week you had, okay, it's time to record.
Therapeutic Aspects of Podcasting
01:17:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
And by the end of the recording, you're laughing your ass off and you feel about 10 pounds lighter.
01:17:26
RICK JAMES
Right. It's not just us. I mean, everybody, everybody comes, there if people come to us. I mean, we just listen to them or whatever, or like you say, share their stuff and it helps it, you know, it's helping everybody.
01:17:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
absolutely
01:17:37
RICK JAMES
so
01:17:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude, every every one of them, I mean, we have ridiculous amounts of listeners and followers and shit for this show, but it's every guy that comes on the show or every guy that reaches out about the show, it's it's really, I mean, it's it's just a...
01:17:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
a huge honor for us to, to have you guys give us the time and give us the time week after week, day after day for three years. It's, it's extremely humbling. And I don't think either one of us could thank everybody out there enough for, uh,
01:18:08
RICK JAMES
Yep.
01:18:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
for what they give back to us. I mean, I know you guys think we're, we're the ones doing the show, but you guys give a hell of a lot back.
01:18:13
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
01:18:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like you, you don't realize the energy you give us to, ah to keep it going. Cause not every, not every week is, ah is easy to sit down and record and find the time to do it. And like, I, the last thing I wanted to do tonight, honestly, is record.
01:18:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cause I just, I wanted to go to bed like two hours ago. Cause I feel like shit, but I'm like, no, we got to do it.
01:18:32
RICK JAMES
Yep.
01:18:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, we got to get it done for the boys and, and girls out there. So here we are.
01:18:38
RICK JAMES
yep Yeah. Yep. I agree 100%. I just...
01:18:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
What are you? Oh, let's see. Oh, if you had to do anything differently over the last three years with the show, what would you have done differently? oh
01:18:54
RICK JAMES
I think we should do more video. I've told you that.
01:18:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
We should. And if I knew how to do it, we would. ah Well, listen, that is something that actually got brought up last week about hiring a producer.
01:19:00
RICK JAMES
yeah hello a
01:19:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Just actually hiring a producer that all we have to do, um take a lot off my plate, all we have to do is say, hey, we're going to record at 8 o'clock tonight, have the room set up, have it set up for video. When we're done, you know produce it, post it to to our post it on our RSS feed, and post it on YouTube or whatever, you know put it out there, and have the guy do everything. like that would that would be ah That would make things a lot easier.
01:19:37
RICK JAMES
I don't know a 12 year old that can do that for us. Yeah.
01:19:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
I honestly, my son could probably do it at this point, man. The way he knows devices. Did I tell you what he tried to do? he tried We have a facial wreck on ah on the one tablet so that he can't do anything over like you know normal child age.
01:19:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
And he goes, hey, Dad, I'm sitting there doing something.
01:19:54
RICK JAMES
yeah
01:19:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah and he goes, hey, Dad, I want to take your picture. I got this app thing that makes funny pictures, so i want to take your picture. So the little shit took my picture. And then he goes, hey can you do me favor? Turn your head to the left.
01:20:08
RICK JAMES
ah
01:20:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
So I turn my head to the left. And I'm like, wait a minute. What the fuck are you doing? And he just kind of has that shit-eating grin like crap. Like he didn't buy it. I thought he wasn't paying attention, but he did. He was using it to try and over override the facial wreck.
01:20:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like that I was saying it was OK for him to ah to turn off the parental controls. I'm like, you smart little fuck.
01:20:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
what a little shit but smart little shit smart little shit uh what is the thing that makes you happiest about the show over the last three years o yeah definitely the people yeah definitely the people yeah that's an easy one definitely all the people
01:20:32
RICK JAMES
Yeah, they know it all. Yeah.
01:20:42
RICK JAMES
Happiest? It's just kind of the same. and it's it's It's the people. I mean, it's i love I love the people. it's it's it's All the connections we've made, is it's the best part about it.
01:20:54
RICK JAMES
mean, like we have phones full of phone numbers we can call guys for anything, you know, anytime.
01:21:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
01:21:01
RICK JAMES
Definitely the people. people
01:21:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
And the last one I have is what are you most focused on going forward with the show? That's a good one. Most focused.
01:21:14
RICK JAMES
Oh, boy. I would say just trying to improve it as much as we can, you know, trying to get the topics people want.
01:21:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yelp.
01:21:24
RICK JAMES
um You know, hopefully expand what we' we're talking about, maybe a trade show is what in our other business we're talking about.
01:21:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:21:33
RICK JAMES
no Those are a couple of things where I think we need to focus on a little bit.
01:21:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
We're not stopping. We're not stopping. No. um Most focused. Sorry, I had to clear my throat there for a second. I am sick. um Most focus, I think like Jeremy said, we're just, I'm most focused on keeping keeping it relevant, keeping it what the guys want without it letting it get stale.
01:22:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
And repetitive and I think we do that every week because it's never the same shit You never know what the hell we're gonna get into even even on episodes like the hardest thing for me on an episode that doesn't have a guest is putting a title to it because we start talking about one topic and it quickly Disintegrates into 17 other splinter topics that are hysterical.
01:22:23
RICK JAMES
So.
01:22:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
I never know which one to focus on so for the title so ah You know I think we do a good job of that if I can you know be a little overconfident on that one and cocky. they I think we keep the show from being stale. It's not a 55-minute advertisement for anybody or anything. It's not corporate.
01:22:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
it is It is us. We're going to stay real. we're gonna you know And our sponsors know that. you know, they, they back the show, but they know it's right there in the agreement that just cause you're a sponsor of the show does not shield you from fire. Should you earn it?
01:23:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, it's you will be called out, you know, it's, uh, you know, it's, and we've done it before. So we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll stay real. And that's, I think that's why it works because we do stay real. And, uh, and the sponsors and the partners are great with that.
01:23:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, they're not telling us anything. They don't tell us what to do. They don't tell us who to bring on. They don't tell us what we should talk about. They're just like, we just want to be part and help you do what you've already been doing. And however, it's great for the industry. And how can we help?
01:23:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
And that's what's awesome. They're not, you know, it's not trying to, nobody's trying to say that, oh, we want to buy the show. that The show's not fucking for sale. I mean, that we've been down that road.
01:23:48
RICK JAMES
Yeah,
01:23:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's not going to happen. and the The partners are awesome because they they've all been so supportive at saying, hey, we love the direction you are pushing the industry in. We love what you're able to do for for the snow industry. And how can we help? Like literally, how many times have they said that? Like, how else can we help you?
01:24:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, what else can we do to help you do more?
01:24:09
RICK JAMES
yeah all the time.
01:24:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, give me three more of me and Jeremy. Like, I was even considering, me like like, what if we did a an offshoot show? Like, how funny would a Sean and Robert weekly show be?
01:24:24
RICK JAMES
Oh, God.
01:24:27
RICK JAMES
How would you even...
01:24:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
you I would listen to that.
01:24:29
RICK JAMES
You couldn't keep that on the rails.
01:24:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
I would just love to hear those two go at it. Pick a topic and let them go at it for fucking 45 minutes. I mean, i would probably.
01:24:39
RICK JAMES
Cheetos or cheese puffs?
01:24:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I would. ah While you're plowing Cheetos or cheese puffs. Oh, Sean, you're crazy, Sean. I'm Robert.
01:24:51
RICK JAMES
get that orange steering wheel, you're going to have orange ball controls.
01:24:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
no shit
01:24:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh my God. That would, I'm telling you though, I would listen to, I would probably look more forward to listening to that show than anything else. That would be hysterical, but you never know where it's going to go. I mean, it's, uh, we're still having a lot of fun with it and we'll continue as long as we're having fun.
01:25:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
uh, as long as, you know, everybody out there is, uh, still so behind it and and wants to hear it. So,
01:25:22
RICK JAMES
as we do some commercials before we end this, huh?
01:25:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, we should. All right, so let's do some commercials. We got one or two more things for you when we come back, and then we'll we'll wrap it for the day.
01:26:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, gang, we're back. ah we know we all We definitely have to give a ah huge shout-out to all of our partners in this show. um They've been absolutely outstanding, from Top Gun to MuskOx, Plowrite.
01:26:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeti, Arctic, Boss, Arctic and Boss, you know, we couldn't do it without you guys. I'm very happy to have both of you on board recently. Top Gun, MuskOx, you guys have been there from the beginning pretty much. So thank you very much for all your support and...
01:27:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
for being there basically the entire ride. Um, couldn't be happier to have you, uh, plow, right? Same thing, Matt and the gang. Uh, you guys have been, you know, God, almost the, almost the entire ride as well.
01:27:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Um, it's been, uh, been a lot of fun.
01:27:27
RICK JAMES
It's been great. Yeah. Jordan got to give Jordan lot thanks too for all his little episodes he puts on. So.
01:27:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's always, you know, i was going to say I had a little thing for Storm. um Storm has been like not a silent partner. they're They're very visible. It's just a different relationship with Storm. Like we're pretty much we view things very similar. We have very similar views of the industry and where we think the industry needs to get to. We kind of agree on the issues within the industry. Yeah.
01:28:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
So our our views are are very much in lockstep with Storm, and that's why we do so much collaborating with them. and And, you know, they're great friends as well as great partners in the show.
01:28:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
And like I said, they're they're they're just a so hard to put a finger on it. they're They're always there. If we need anything, if we need help with anything, yeah if we need a guest at the last second, like literally whatever we need, you know, you can always call Jordan or Storm and they're there.
01:28:27
RICK JAMES
there.
01:28:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Um, and it's been, it's been a great ride and they've been there since the first summer, right? I mean, the liquids one-on-ones Jordan was doing, you know, VSI by boss and storm.
01:28:37
RICK JAMES
Yep. Yep.
01:28:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Um, that was the first summer I believe. And, you know it it hasn't stopped it's that relationship has only grown um you know jordan does all the dustings with us now and he he's great at he's great at getting us out of our little bubbles because even though we we talk to all of you you know all all week long and we record once a week we're still like we're still kind of in our own bubbles me and jeremy so jordan sees a lot of different bubbles
01:29:08
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:29:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
out there in his travels he's always moving so it's a great resource to be able to have him 100 100 so and we uh you know we love those guys they're they're very good at what they do they're they're a huge reason this industry is now moving in the right direction again uh we couldn't be happier to have them along for the ride with us it's it's been great what else what else am i forgetting
01:29:11
RICK JAMES
Yep. Great.
01:29:16
RICK JAMES
He always comes to prepared. Great outlines. You know, what he wants done. So.
01:29:42
RICK JAMES
I mean, that's a big one, obviously, but I guess I got one more question for you. i don't know if I wantm to wrap it up for that or what, but what would you say to the listeners who haven't been here since the beginning?
01:29:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
01:29:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
this is your show like we we just press record this is uh but you're the reason it's you're the reason it is what it is and you're the reason we do it every week because we see those numbers keep growing uh if those numbers started going down we'd start thinking about maybe this isn't worth doing anymore but the numbers just keep going up so how do we you know how can we possibly let that many of you down
01:29:55
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:30:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, whatever we got to do, hell or high water, we'll get it done. And the guys that have been there since day one and even the guys that have found it last week and have listened to, you know, there there were guys.
01:30:27
RICK JAMES
That's crazy that's the crazy. That's the craziest part. when Guys say they just they just found us and they just like binge listen.
01:30:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Right. Right.
01:30:33
RICK JAMES
I'm like, how the hell can you listen to me for that long?
01:30:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Dude, the dude, the one dude DM me, what was it? Tuesday, Tuesday or Wednesday, said, holy crap, I just found this show and I listened to 25 episodes during plowing for, you know, the mega storm.
01:30:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm like, well, that's awesome. Good for you. Where you been for the last you know three years, bud?
01:30:53
RICK JAMES
Yeah. situation
01:30:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
But I mean, at least he found it and he binged 25 episodes.
01:30:57
RICK JAMES
yeah
01:30:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like I'm up to episode 26 already. You guys are awesome. I can't believe there's 150 more of these. But no, it's all about the guys and girls in the industry and the ones that listening.
01:31:04
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:31:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
they They fuel us. They definitely fuel us to keep going because it is not easy. It is not easy. And and you know many people try and very few are able to succeed. It's not it's not easy to build the the base that that you guys have out there that you've... you've joined up that many you've gotten your friends to listen in the industry and it's you know there's there's power in numbers man there's strength in numbers and you know you guys keep keep pushing us forward and we'll keep going it's uh it's awesome so thank you very much to each and everyone out there uh that has been there since day one and uh and has made the show what it is like i said me and jeremy just push record once a week but this is your show
01:31:55
RICK JAMES
You probably answered it, but what does the Snow Jobs podcast mean to you?
Empowering the Snow Industry Community
01:32:03
RICK JAMES
All that?
01:32:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like what is the actual meaning of the name?
01:32:07
RICK JAMES
Yeah. i mean move no no No, no, no.
01:32:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm not going into that. ah
01:32:11
RICK JAMES
I mean, the show itself.
01:32:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
What does it mean to me? Um, It's kind of evolved like the Snow Jobs podcast now. I don't even think of the podcast. I just think of the nation, Snow Jobs Nation.
01:32:22
RICK JAMES
Yep. Yep.
01:32:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
And that that's like awesome. Like it's really cool in in three years to see what what the nation, not Steve and Jeremy, but what the whole group of guys have been able to accomplish. that Like putting kind of, putting the the power back in the hands of the guys doing the work.
01:32:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know, making that the focus, making the guys that are doing the work, the focus is something I think got lost for, you know, a while there in the industry.
01:32:45
RICK JAMES
100%. Yep.
01:32:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
It all became about, you know, who was going who was going to form the latest national fucking property management company and start screwing over fucking contractors.
01:32:54
RICK JAMES
hundred percent
01:33:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
um You know, even former contractors that did that, you know, it's, know I'm glad to see that the guys are banding together to try and take back their industry.
01:33:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
and It's really cool. 100%. It is.
01:33:16
RICK JAMES
Yep. Yeah. The snow job nations, the, you know, podcasts is what we started as, but I, I kind of look at it as the nation and then like, kind of like all of our apparels now, snow jobs nation, you know, so what we have on it for the most part, just because that's what it is.
01:33:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
hundred percent
01:33:32
RICK JAMES
It's, it's all the people out here, you know, we're all one big, big group trying to get the shit done.
01:33:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
it is
01:33:36
RICK JAMES
And once as you always say, we're all bunch of what different clowns, the same circus.
01:33:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, same circus, different clowns every week. Yep. it's a It's awesome. but Yeah, that's, I mean, you see where it's gone, what it's evolved to.
01:33:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like here, you and i obviously, weren it's not a big secret. You know, way before the show, we were both, you know, hardcore Arctic users. And we have our Snow Jobs Nation sticker on every Arctic product coming off the assembly line.
01:34:07
RICK JAMES
That's, I love that.
01:34:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, how trippy is that? Like, I just posted a video yesterday.
01:34:10
RICK JAMES
That is.
01:34:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
i was getting hydraulic lines made up for the fucking machine that we blew during the storm. And I walk outside and there's an ASV with a 10LD sitting in the parking lot across from the shop.
01:34:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
of the shop So I walked over to it. I was like, oh, that looks new. Let's see if it's got the sticker. And sure enough, it had the sticker. I'm like, man, that is that is so cool.
01:34:30
RICK JAMES
That is so cool.
01:34:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Every time I see it, it's cool.
01:34:32
RICK JAMES
It's so cool. mean, would thought? I mean, we've been already guys from way before this and we're not bought and paid for by anybody.
01:34:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, God, yeah.
01:34:41
RICK JAMES
And, and we, that's, they're just, there's a great, great organization. I mean, they're a great family, great company. And i don't know, it's for them, for for them to, for them to put our stick around their product is, guys don't even know what that means.
01:34:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like I said, Randy straight. Yeah. It's an honor. Huge. Huge.
01:34:58
RICK JAMES
They're like you and I, are so it's pretty, pretty damn cool.
01:34:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. It's a, it's, it's a
Significance of the Snow Jobs Brand
01:35:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
dream. I mean, like,
01:35:02
RICK JAMES
it's it's it's not a, it's not a sticker. it's It's, it's a brand. I mean, it's a brand that's representing all of us, you know?
01:35:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah, it's our badge. Absolutely.
01:35:08
RICK JAMES
Yeah. So,
01:35:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's a, it's pretty, pretty freaking cool. Like I said, Randy straight, like changed the direction of my business like 15 years ago with a 20 minute phone call. And the man actually got on the phone and gave me his time and laid it out like hey here's how you can do what i'm doing on a much smaller scale and that was it i'm like all right this dude he knows what he's talking about so i'm gonna listen and that's when i started you know saying all right this is the direction we're heading this is how we're gonna do it and we're gonna go machines and
01:35:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know we're gonna go arctics and that uh that's you can't do much better than that that the the product that has helped your business so much you know now your logo is right there next to theirs like it's wild
01:35:54
RICK JAMES
a memorial It's It's trippy. A lot of people don't don't understand what that really means, but it means a lot.
01:35:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
it's so crazy
01:36:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
it's big it means everything it means everything to snow guys i mean that's that's that's pretty cool you know that a manufacturer is going to take uh basically a badge that represents all you know all snow contractors out there and uh they're going to put it on their product that's that's pretty sweet love it definitely snow jobs approved that one definitely ah
01:36:19
RICK JAMES
I
01:36:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
what else bud anything else
01:36:28
RICK JAMES
don't think so. It was nice going to a quick one like we said was going to right.
01:36:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, yeah, a little quick 45 minutes, hour and a half later. Oh, you do.
01:36:36
RICK JAMES
Hey, when you got to thank the people and you know tell them what they mean to us. so it's It's been great.
01:36:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, everything.
01:36:41
RICK JAMES
It's been a great run. and We're just going to keep getting bigger and stronger and better. That's the the plan here.
01:36:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it. That is definitely the plan. And every day above ground.
01:36:54
RICK JAMES
and and we And for two guys don't have a plan, that's pretty good.
01:36:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Keep it going.
01:36:57
RICK JAMES
We came up with a plan.
01:36:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it. There's the plan. You have the extended forecast and the well we'll have a better shot at being correct. I guarantee you that.
01:37:07
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:37:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
All You want to wrap it? and
01:37:09
RICK JAMES
We can wrap it, buddy.
01:37:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, cool. All right.
01:37:11
RICK JAMES
Thank you for everything.
01:37:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
No problem. Thank you, buddy. All right, guys, we'll wrap it there. That's going to do it for this third anniversary episode 156 of the Snow Jive podcast main show. As Jeremy said, we got to thank each and every one of you guys out there and girls. Sorry. I just you know know that when I'm saying guys, I mean everybody. um but each and one of you out there that tune in religiously every monday morning uh for all your incredible incredible support your dms your text messages your emails um it's it's all overwhelming but it's what definitely fuels us to go forward and keep bringing you new stuff and keep bringing you stuff that's gonna you know help you guys uh do it better and hopefully uh make more money
01:37:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
And this show is not the success that it is without each and every one of you guys out there. So thank you so much. And congrats to everybody for making the show what it is. What do you got, Jay?
01:38:07
RICK JAMES
I just say everybody keep sending your videos in, keep tagging us, keep, keep sending stuff in.
01:38:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
01:38:12
RICK JAMES
You want to listen to guests or whatever, just send it in. You guys do a great job at it and let's just keep it up.
01:38:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
absolutely like we said this is your show guys whatever you want we just push record but uh let us know you guys are the best thank you so much for three years um you know i'm sure uh you guys if you don't know it you guys have done a lot more for us than we do for you so uh thank you very much to everybody out there that listens and that keeps promoting the show keeps recommending it
01:38:20
RICK JAMES
It makes us better.
01:38:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
we really appreciate it so that is it everybody be safe out there have a great week keep making that money and we'll see you soon keep pushing