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Green Bay Packers Season Predictions & Analysis
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As the NFL season rapidly approaches, join Iowa Joe and Mike in this exciting episode of Ohana: Packers Edition, where they break down the Green Bay Packers' schedule and make bold predictions for the upcoming season. We dive deep into the implications of the Micah Parsons trade, exploring how it affects the Packers' defense and what it means for the franchise as a whole.
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Introduction and Surprise Trade Discussion
00:00:01
Speaker
Aloha and welcome back to another episode of the Ohana Edition podcast. I'm sorry, my words are all jumbled at this point because I am still in a state of disbelief over what Gutekunst and the Packers accomplished just, well, it's Tuesday when you're hearing this, Sunday when we're recording it, so three days ago for us, five days ago for you, but Joe, for all the naysayers, Gutekunst finally took his swing and hit a home run. You know what? I said, I know it's almost a week since and um Packers will be playing in just five days from now, but
00:00:38
Speaker
It happened. i I know that on last week's episode, we both sort of wrote it off as being unrealistic because any sane organization wouldn't let a 26-year-old perennial Defensive Player of the Year candidate caliber of player walk out the door for anything other than some kind of egregious off-field incident such as murder or some sort of thing to that nature. So...
Trade Analysis: Packers vs. Cowboys
00:01:04
Speaker
ah ah what are your feelings on what happened what what happened on thursday for the most part i'm surprised about the trade just because i figured it was going to be too costly for what the the packers were wanting do i'm i've said this in just a little you know on socials and that that it as a draft person who a guy who loves the draft it's hard to see them give up two first round picks because that just that takes part of the fun out of it for when we go into that that time of year but as a fan i mean how can you not be happy with getting you know a top three pass rusher in the league at the moment and what's it been four years and he's had 12 plus sacks per year
00:01:55
Speaker
So first guy to do it since Reggie White in a career. So I mean, just the list goes on and on about how big of a thing this is. And like you said, there were like three roadblocks to to what I expected would stop this kind of thing from happening for Green Bay.
00:02:11
Speaker
Like you said, the first being the first being cost. Or, I'm sorry, first being just Dallas actually agreeing to do it. Second being um the cost, you know, what it would cost and the ah ah things going out in the trade. And then the third being how you would have to do the contract. And like, we'll just go through each of those items one by one.
00:02:35
Speaker
I know that this first point is more of a Dallas Cowboys thing, but I just can't believe that the situation deteriorated to the point where Dallas agreed to move on. Like, we won't spend too much time on this one. Like I said, from a Green Bay point of view, this is the kind of player that the Packers have always stated they would be willing to pony up and pay for.
00:02:59
Speaker
It's just never happened because 26-year-old defensive player of the year, like perennial defensive player of the year candidates do not go on the trade market because when other teams find these kind of guys, I mean, the last time Green Bay had one of these was Klay and they extended him at the first chance they got. And unfortunately for Klay, he just had shit luck injury. You know, he broke his thumb right after the contract. He he he basically broke it twice in the same season after that he had the hamstring issues all that kind of stuff so like those kind of players just do not become available so that like i could stammer on and on about that aspect of it but yeah like how shocked are you that jerry as much as everyone and myself at the forefront of it want to make fun of jerry jones like
00:03:52
Speaker
I can't believe they got to a point they talked themselves into being done with him. It doesn't surprise me with Jerry because some of the things that are coming out about it were supposedly he approached Mike and said, well, let's get this contract out of the way. And Mike told him, OK, well, let me get a hold of my manager or whatever is.
00:04:17
Speaker
And Jerry's like, no, we're going to do it right now. And Mike is just like, no, we're going to do it. My agent, my agent, we're not going to do this without my agent.
00:04:26
Speaker
And it's like, that just shows that he's got too much old school to him where, you know, forget the agents, forget all this, you know, what it really, what would you want?
00:04:38
Speaker
He knows going through an agent, the, the agent's going to get as much as he can for his, for his, his player, because that's more money into his own pocket.
00:04:50
Speaker
So it doesn't surprise me that it happened the way it happened. Does it surprise me that it's the type of player going up? Yeah.
00:05:00
Speaker
Does it surprise me that theoretically it was so little in return that the that the cowboys are taking you know just two first round picks and of course losing kenny clark but there's an argument either way for kenny clark on the team but and then jerry's like well we needed a run stopper and that was going to be the thing that we were going to talk the only teams that we were going to talk to that had a guy like this that we could we could trade him for it's like
00:05:32
Speaker
What? I mean, like Kenny Clark, but you're going to give up a 26-year-old for just two first-round picks? And then he tried justifying the first-round picks, which I understand.
00:05:46
Speaker
Any team wants multiple first-round picks, but if you think about it, if the Packers do what know the predictions are and they make a run to the Super Bowl, that's going to be bottom-of-the-round pick anyway. So...
Cowboys' Strategy and Player Management
00:06:01
Speaker
I, I, I don't understand Jerry's concepts and what he took and what, but I understand how the, the situation broke down so quickly. Cause that's just the Jerry type of thing is right. You know, let's just do this on his own because he's hoping he can get a cheaper contract out of it.
00:06:22
Speaker
Yeah. And like you, you know, this would make sense. in the context of like, oh, because he and Steven Jones both made the comments that like, we don't like that our roster is unbalanced. You know, it's hard to win in the NFL if you're paying like only five guys top of the market money.
00:06:42
Speaker
First off, that's not true. Like the best teams are playing, there's tiers of how you pay guys. You're paying each really good championship contending team is playing two to three guys top of their position money kind of thing and furthermore that justification for being the basis of jettison parsons out is made extra stupid when you look at who they just paid the last two seasons
00:07:15
Speaker
I like Dak as as player. I do think Dak is like a fun player to watch. He is not a guy who should have reset quarterback contract amounts. CD did deserve to like reset wide receiver money, but it goes into and of those go into like the Cowboys thinking that one, the salary cap, forget that it's not real, that it just doesn't exist anymore.
00:07:38
Speaker
And that
Impact of Trade on Teams' Futures
00:07:39
Speaker
like you said, old business works these days kind of thing. And they, instead of being able to like get to the table early, like good teams, like the Packers, like Gouda Kunstenball try to do, you get to the table a year early, start having these good hearty conversations and you get guys like Elton Jenkins when he did extend when he was dealing with a knee injury, guys like Zach Tom to sign for what can only be described as under market value deals.
00:08:14
Speaker
And instead you play a hard ball, you play the long game and you end up being like, we can't pay this guy this much. And it's like, you could have not had to pay him that much. But like I said, that's a whole thing for Cowboys podcast to go into.
00:08:29
Speaker
The second thing that we both sort of touched on is cost. And like, I don't know how much a player of this caliber should cost. Like people kind of pointed to Khalil Mack and Mack was really good when he got traded, but he wasn't a 50 sacks in his first four years guy. Like there were, if you go look and go and look back at Khalil Mack,
00:08:51
Speaker
There were articles after his second season that, oh, he may never be an elite pass rusher. He might just be a, like a Rashawn Gary type. He's going to be a really reliable edge setter who will, you know, he'll get sacks, but he's not going to be a sack artist kind of thing.
00:09:11
Speaker
And... he took off, he ended up with 40 in his first four years. So nothing to sneeze at, but not 50 in his first four years. And at the same time, he was a year older. And so it's like, you know, that's the thing is like Parsons debating on what medical um official you asked, he may not be in his prime yet.
00:09:33
Speaker
Like that that's the weirdest part of it. And so it's kind of like, It probably we would cost too much. My mentality was it'll cost too much because what do you even give in a trade for that? Like I was like, OK, he's going to cost two first round picks because I know he's on the fifth year option, but it's the equivalent of being on the franchise tag, yada, yada, yada.
00:09:54
Speaker
So it's like two first round picks is a starting point. If anyone called. If any fan of any other team called the a Packer fan and told him, you're going to trade two first-round picks and Kenny Clark for Micah Parsons. And I think my first question would have been, like, 2025 Kenny Clark?
00:10:13
Speaker
Not, like, 2019 Kenny Clark? like you said, I love Kenny. I hate... the human side of it that this is how his Green Bay career ends. I said it on, I said it with Shavink on Thursday, like it absolutely sucks that if this Parsons deal works out the way that the Packers are, you know, projecting and hoping it to,
00:10:33
Speaker
The absolute cruel part of it is Kenny's career is going to be summed up as he's the guy who got traded for Micah Parsons, which is absolutely, insanely disrespectful and cruel. But so many people are going to refer to his nine-year tenure as a Packer as, oh, yeah, that's the guy who got traded for Micah Parsons. And it's like, that sucks for what Kenny gave to the Packers. But it's one of those that even in his prime,
00:11:01
Speaker
You think about it, but you do it because, yes, what Kenny offered four years ago as an interior pass rusher, it's not as high as what Parsons does as an absolute offense-wrecking, pass-rushing player kind of thing and stuff.
00:11:15
Speaker
And, like... And the fact that we have to say, oh yeah, if Kenny was five years younger, you might think about it before you pull the trigger, but we're still pulling the trigger kind of thing.
00:11:27
Speaker
That just shows how much of an underprice I think this deal was from the Packers' point of view.
00:11:33
Speaker
Yeah, I mean... I was just sitting here trying to think because for some reason it's sticking in my mind that the year that Micah was traded, that there was a – or I mean not traded, drafted, there were a ton of rumors that the Packers were trying to move up for him.
00:11:52
Speaker
Do you remember hearing that?
00:11:54
Speaker
I do not. I do not. it's funny because Goode played it real coy. Like, oh, yeah, you kind of saw this guy at the combine and you didn't know what position. he think Goode was talking about how he hadn't played the COVID year. So you're kind of like, oh, it's hard to scout him and stuff like that. But I think what it came down to is Packers picked...
00:12:16
Speaker
That's what i was trying to look at real quick. No, that the Packers were picking 30th that year because that's, it was 2021. So it was the year they lost to Tampa the year before. So it was the draft after they had lost to Tampa in the championship game.
00:12:29
Speaker
And I think Micah went 13th or something. So I think most of the talk was they were trying to go up and get like Rashad Bateman that draft.
00:12:38
Speaker
I don't know. I just remember hearing a lot of, for some reason, I remember hearing a lot of Micah chatter even back during that draft time. So, I mean, it could be completely out there, but I just, for some reason, I thought they had been on him for a long time.
00:12:54
Speaker
So, but just going back to the cost of the trade itself, like I said earlier, know,
00:13:04
Speaker
as much as I hate giving up the first round picks because that's less for us to do in the off season to only have given up the two first round picks and Kenny Clark.
00:13:19
Speaker
It, it makes you, shocking. I know there's been initial knee jerk reactions to this trade has been
Historical Context and Player Comparisons
00:13:28
Speaker
Dallas failed it.
00:13:30
Speaker
Uh, I know like 20 minutes after the initial announcement of the trade, the fleeced was trending Elon machine.
00:13:43
Speaker
and you clicked on it, they were talking about the Cowboys Packers trade. So I know there's a little bit of issue with this back.
00:13:53
Speaker
and you wonder how much of that was played up there because he just didn't want to play until he got a contract or whatever So it just giving up those I'm okay with it.
00:14:09
Speaker
I wish it would have been a little bit more like a Devante style trade where, you know, it's a first rounder and a second rounder, and then you could have gave up. Okay. Cause I, I think I could have been okay with, you know, 2026 without a a first rounder and without a second You can't not be excited.
00:14:31
Speaker
I just wish just hope people are tempering their expectations on things because like I was telling somebody the other day, one player does not make a Super Bowl.
00:14:42
Speaker
You still have to have cohesion throughout the whole team. You still got to have a modicum of luck going into the season going through the season. Yes, this is a huge pickup.
00:14:55
Speaker
I don't quite put it on Reggie levels yet, but I would say it's probably a little bit more similar to Woodson being brought in. And because there's a lot more historical things about the Reggie coming to Green Bay than anything else.
00:15:11
Speaker
So I have a hard time comparing those two. And good on Gudakundz for like framing it that way when in his presser on Friday afternoon where he basically said like,
00:15:23
Speaker
I can't speak to you can't compare where the franchise was at each time. Like this team was already knocking on the door of contention like the 93 team. it was like, OK, that far kid is cool. But like, what else are they like? You know, it's and the team might still move kind of thing. So I appreciate Gutekunst like putting everything in the correct frame.
00:15:45
Speaker
And I agree with you. to an extent, like overall impact, if it all works out, it should be similar, like on the field impact, it should be similar. My other point is like, and it's tied into how much I trust Jeff Halfley with all of this is that,
00:16:04
Speaker
Parsons doesn't have like a home position kind of thing. And you need a guy, a coordinator like Halfley, who is going to use him properly. i thought that was one of the things that was really dumb about Zimmer last season is that he was like, no, you're just a defensive end. And like, he, you didn't see him do any of the things that Dan Quinn had him do in the previous seasons, where was like,
00:16:24
Speaker
he's gonna stand up at sam or mike or will linebacker he's gonna put his hand in the dirt he's gonna stand over the a gap he's almost like your slot defender on some plays and so and halfley's gonna do all of that like it's gonna take time because he's got to come in get in shape he's got to buy some place to live you know all all the things that like you don't really consider when you're just a fan of a player of a team but like there's so many other things he's got to do but As the season goes along, when you hit that like week seven or eight window, that's when like, if he's healthy, he'll be quote unquote fully unlocked this defense. And it's really exciting to think about that.
00:17:05
Speaker
Well, I just can't... There's a whole lot of things about the Reggie situation that you can't compare to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just talking purely about on field, his on field impact. Yeah, I totally agree with you that like that Reggie situation.
00:17:22
Speaker
Like people throw it around so freely now, but it was truly a special moment. Like it, it. legitimately saved the franchise from moving to a different city. And that's why that move can never... It's on a different stratosphere that I don't think will ever be touched in the history of the Packers again, just because what it monumentally meant for the Green Bay Packers re re remaining the Green Bay Packers.
00:17:50
Speaker
Well, on top of that, it's like he was like the first official free agent to sign a big money contract. You know, there's a whole fun story about it ah ah with Holmgren that, you know, Reggie said that, well, God will let me know where I need to sign. And Holmgren called him and said, Reggie, this is God. Come to Green Bay. So, I mean, there's a whole bunch of situation with the Reggie situation.
00:18:16
Speaker
deal than over the Parsons one. I can even kind of say on the field you're going to get two different types of players also.
00:18:26
Speaker
So it's hard like I said, I view it more like a Woodson thing where even though there was an age difference between the two when they joined the Packers there' they still are a similar type of player where they don't fit into one position.
00:18:45
Speaker
Yeah, no, I agree with you there that, like, the difference there being Parsons is in his prime or in or starting his prime and Woodson is at the crest or end of it. But, yeah, it's, like you said, Reggie, you knew where he was going to be. He was going to be across from your right tackle every play, kicking his ass. And, like, that was the thing is, like,
00:19:05
Speaker
Most of the best pass rushers are right ends because they're on the quarterback's blind side. Reggie's like, nah, you're going to see me take your guy's soul and come after you kind of thing. The funny thing is, is it makes sense because usually your right tackle is your weakest of your pass protectors anyway.
00:19:21
Speaker
So, I mean, why not take advantage of that a little bit more too? Typically it was always the left tackle was your blind side, your right tackle was more your because you had more time to react because that was in your zone of sight. So that's what made it even more fun.
00:19:38
Speaker
what
Contract Negotiations and Salary Cap
00:19:38
Speaker
also elevates Reggie's legend more, and no one would ever have, I would have never dared to think of this in his presence, but he was like the originator of the useful dad bod because like,
00:19:50
Speaker
It's one of those where you're like, if if you didn't know who Reggie White was and you saw what his physical body looked like, you're like, okay, he's tall and he's strong kind of thing, but like he had a beer belly. It wasn't like he didn't look like Miles Garrett or something like that does today thing where it's like a chiseled 275. If you're told Reggie's you're like,
00:20:15
Speaker
up And like it just added to the like to for me, it like elevated his like legendary status that it's like everyone told you how strong and how mean and how like aggressively he played. But like you kind of looked at him and you're like, that's like, but it's kind of like when Nigel Gruff walks up in the replacements and the coach is like, this is the leg. It's kind of like, it's the whole, this is male, this is male body perfection kind of thing and stuff. But like I said, we don't want to make this the whole episode. And we do have our schedule prediction to get into. But the last part being the contract, which is like the third of three strikes that I didn't think the Packers would get over.
00:20:56
Speaker
It's a lot of money. and like, but... And it wasn't the amount of money that I was doubting the Packers would do.
00:21:07
Speaker
It was the fact that Parsons was going to rightfully demand a sum of guaranteed money that the Packers have not given out to a non-quarterback in their previous history.
00:21:19
Speaker
And like I said, this is the part where
00:21:22
Speaker
The kind of player that Parsons is does not come available in trades. And Gutekunst and Russ Ball said, fuck it. We're going to make the trade. We're going to figure out how to do the deal.
00:21:33
Speaker
And God damn, did Russ Ball figure out how to do the deal? So... The big number everyone saw on Schefter and Pelissero's tweets and Rappaport's tweets is he just broke the non-quarterback contract record.
00:21:48
Speaker
Four years, $188 million total $120 million But that goes on top of his $24 million fifth-year option for 2024. So in total, five years, $212 million.
00:22:04
Speaker
So everyone was like, oh, my God, $47 million per year. But what Goot and Ball did is they're like, okay, we're going to shock you now with this big-ass annual number on the new money side of it.
00:22:17
Speaker
And at the same time, Micah, when you add in the fifth year, because that's how agents and shit work, you know, when you negative recruit and stuff like that. Yeah, the it's four and a half million less, but you're still making 1.4 million per year more than the next guy kind of thing. So they gave Micah his money.
00:22:38
Speaker
Because of void years and all that kind of stuff, Micah's cap hit for this season, $9,970,000. So it's less than it was when It came in you full was guaranteed bumps up just under 10 million next year to 19, 200 and change thousand. Then 2027. Okay.
00:22:56
Speaker
64, oh, it's over 64 the next year. If everything works out,
00:23:22
Speaker
stuff.
00:23:23
Speaker
So it's just a masterful use of kicking the can down the road without it killing you because you're making a, what should be a smart gamble that,
00:23:35
Speaker
this guy is going to be this good for that long and you're going to be able to, you know, massage it out. And he's still going to be making top five money at his position in, you know, when he's 29 years old, but you know, the cap will have been going, continued to go up by then and stuff. And so like,
00:23:53
Speaker
it
00:23:55
Speaker
I didn't doubt that they would massage the number away that would still allow them to do things like retain one of Watson and Dobbs. Maybe they're flipping a coin between Quay and Wyatt.
00:24:08
Speaker
And then the big one that they're earmarking a lot of that money for is Tucker's extension in another year, basically, because Tucker's in year three this year. But for all the people that like, oh, they're going to be hamstrung. They're not going to be able to do things.
00:24:21
Speaker
One of the big dominoes for this trade is they got Zach Tom done early. Like I said, Jerry Jones fucked up by trying to lowball, lowball and hold this thing out to the end. And the Packers did their homework early.
00:24:32
Speaker
And Zach Tom's at a stupid under market deal kind of thing. these things all add up to what how green bay operates and you know people are like what does this do to the window all kind of stuff it makes shorten it overall if you want to look at it in the super pessimistic if they don't like hit on draft picks or like guys don't pan out whatever way want to look at it but this move turbo charges their chances for this year, next year, and even the year after it. And
Preparing for the New Season
00:25:05
Speaker
that's the way you've got to look at this move going forward.
00:25:10
Speaker
Money-wise, I think, well, the way they normally work their contracts is, like you explained everything, but on top of that, when it comes into year three or going into the year four, there's always some kind of clause or something in there that It's an easy way out for them to get out of the contract, whether it's a high salary and a low bonus to where, you know, if they cut him, they're only out like the $10 million or $15 million that was a bonus for that year.
00:25:43
Speaker
So, yeah, rest ball is a genius. I don't know how they keep pulling this stuff off. But they do. And then when they have to reset everything, it only takes them like a year to reset it.
00:25:56
Speaker
So, you know, it's one of those things. But yeah, I don't know how much more we can really talk on this. I know they said that the readiness for week one, they were probably going to have them a little bit in there.
00:26:09
Speaker
but they don't fully expect him to be acclimated until week two or three when he's had a little bit of time into the system. It's going to be a little bit easier for him to get into the system than, say, like a Malik Willis did last year, but it still should be pretty solid for him to get in. and You'll probably at least see minimum snaps at just a pass rusher than in in anything else.
00:26:36
Speaker
So... yeah I mean it's a good pickup uh I know people are poo-pooing now with the the number debacle going on where now he's number one and Matthew Golden is number zero and feel sorry for the people that bought 22 jerseys because even though now they're like collector items it's still Well, bought it because I wanted a golden jersey, and now he's changed numbers on it.
00:27:06
Speaker
I wonder if they'll do something like they did. I think the NFL's jersey policy is you can switch it in. like You have like 30 days, let's after a prominent player changes a number, you can switch it or whatever kind of thing.
00:27:19
Speaker
I'm the kind of sicko that I might keep it, honestly, just because I'm like, like you said, I'm the kind of the dorky sicko that's it's a piece of history. Like he caught that. He made that one-handed catch in preseason with 22 on it. We're all going to remember where we were in that app and kind of thing.
00:27:36
Speaker
But yeah, I bought my one and my zero jersey. And like you said, let's roll the ball out on the 2025 season.
00:27:45
Speaker
Yeah, let's go for it. All right, so the Packers 2025 season opens with a week one duel in Lambeau against the Detroit Lions.
00:28:03
Speaker
And okay, even before the Parsons trade, I know that games shouldn't be deemed a must-win in week one because there's so much time to make up ground. The Packers have kind of proven that the last two seasons. But not must-win from like a do-or-die on your season kind of thing. But like you have got to set the tone. You have not beaten the Lions at Lambeau in...
00:28:33
Speaker
five years four years now. They beat you in 2022 to knock you out of the playoffs. 23 and 24, you lost you with Jordan dinged up at the helm kind of thing on a Thursday night.
00:28:46
Speaker
you've got to come away with the win in this game. And I think they will. For as much as we don't know what Parsons is going to be able to contribute and ah ah the injuries on offense are a little spooky.
00:28:57
Speaker
Detroit is breaking in a lot of new pieces. They are also breaking in a new offensive line. I think their center and right guard new players. Both coordinators are being replaced.
00:29:10
Speaker
And Hutchinson is a little, I don't doubt that Aiden attacked his rehab, but it's still the first major injury of his career. I know he broke his foot in college, but that wasn't this type of injury.
00:29:24
Speaker
And this is the kind of injury that potentially changes career. So there's a lot of questions that Detroit has to answer. And for the Packers, it's been close, but no cigar except for the Thanksgiving game in 2023.
00:29:37
Speaker
don't have a score for this one, but I think the Packers, I think LaFleur, I think every player in that locker room, before the Parsons trade, they understood the importance of this game and what it means for setting the tone for their season.
00:29:50
Speaker
And with the Parsons addition, it's like, not that you get tenser, but it's like, oh yeah, like we're the baddest gunslinger in town and we're going to make shit happen kind of thing. So I've got this week one as a win. How about you?
00:30:03
Speaker
keep flipping it back and forth in my mind because it's a short turnaround. They play the lions at home on Sunday and then Thursday they play the commanders at home and it's going to be two tough games matter how much you look at it.
00:30:19
Speaker
ah ah So I feel like the They'll win one of them, but they'll lose the other and it's okay. Which one do you think they'll win? Which one do you think they're going to lose?
00:30:31
Speaker
I think I'll go with the win for this one and then for the commanders, I'll go for the loss just because even with the Parsons addition and him having played the commanders twice a year for the the majority of his career, he'll, he'll know a little bit ah ah about their system and whatever.
00:30:51
Speaker
But think it's going to be a rough game either way. So either they're going to win the slugfest against the Lions and lose the slugfest against the commanders or they're going to flip-flop But I think I'm going to with win over the Lions and then lead into a loss over the commanders. All right. I realize already fucked this up.
00:31:14
Speaker
what I was supposed to do this season in honor of Sterling Sharp making the Hall of Fame. If anyone remembers when Sterling Sharp was on the NFL Network, he was really good at it when he was contributor on NFL Network. you would the To every game, he would always say, Green Bay is going to be able to do this. Green Bay needs to do this. Blah, blah, blah. Green Bay has to watch out for this.
00:31:38
Speaker
I am not picking the Packers because that was like his superstition. And so, goddammit, I screwed it up already. And I had meant to be Sterling Sharp in honor of Sterling finally making it to the Hall of Fame.
00:31:52
Speaker
But you know what? Just to go on with the trend of what you were talking about, I do have them winning both these games. I think that... But where I'll... So obviously I'm zigging from you because I have them winning both, but where I agree with you is I think one of them is going to be like ah at least a 10-point win, like a 10-point or like a late, like once, you know, a two-score game where the other team makes it a one-score victory kind of thing at the very end.
00:32:20
Speaker
But... And then the other one is going to be just a drawn out, like down in the dirt, like back and forth slugfest kind of thing.
00:32:30
Speaker
And I think... The Lions game is going to be that. And I have this feeling that this Washington game, weird shit is going to happen because it's a Thursday. It's the first Thursday night game of the season. You know, like I don't count the season opener because both teams have like gotten all offseason to prep for playing on that first Thursday night.
00:32:51
Speaker
But that first team that has to do, those first two teams that have to do the, we played opening Sunday, got to come around and turn around and play the first Thursday night, like the first Thursday night game in week two.
00:33:02
Speaker
That's the one where it's like, oh, and I'm, Basing this on the Packers being the home team. They played. They're going to have played at home week one. So there's no travel.
00:33:13
Speaker
You get to sleep in your own bed. All that kind of stuff. And yes, Washington is dangerous. They have a lot of firepower. Daniels was really good as a rookie. But hey, like sophomore quarterback slumps happen to like every starting quarterback.
00:33:28
Speaker
Jordan had it. CJ Stroud had it. And also... The Commanders were one of the, like, they won the dog shit luck award for the NFL season last year.
00:33:40
Speaker
And I'm not to say that their success wasn't legitimate. I do think they were like a team, but they got like, you know, the Bears game. And then they had they one more where they scored like 14 points in the last two minutes of the game or something like that to come away with the win.
00:33:57
Speaker
So... They're still a very young team, and I do think that Halfley is going to have stuff for them that this one might be and and big win for the Packers.
00:34:12
Speaker
And like I said, anything can happen in the NFL, but I just – I don't know. It's going to be two slugfests right back-to-back. I just – I don't know. I'd put it at like 25% chance that they'd take both of them.
00:34:29
Speaker
But, you
Mid-season Predictions and Strategy
00:34:30
Speaker
know, I want to be more realistic than Homer because Homer wise, as I I would say, you know, they're going to go 21 and 0 with the Super Bowl ring. But realism, you know, obviously they're not going to win every game.
00:34:45
Speaker
but looking ahead through the rest, you know, through some of these other teams, it's like, I don't know if they're going to start the season that undefeated.
00:34:58
Speaker
So There's a lot of questions, and that's what makes this picking the games kind of rough is because you have all the questions. You know, what's up with Jaden Reed's foot?
00:35:10
Speaker
know, ah ah which one of the receivers are truly healthy going into the season? Yeah. what is the starting O-line situation? I know that there's really only one spot up for debate, but it's like, what is the starting O-line going to look like?
00:35:24
Speaker
How is the run defense going to go without Kenny in the middle? And, yeah know, how many snaps is Mike are going to be able to play and all that kind of stuff? You is Xavier McKinney fully healthy? You know, there are all these, like...
00:35:36
Speaker
I say they're more nagging questions than they are like true full blown like oh my god the season hinges these going right or wrong but there's enough doubt to cloudy any wins or losses.
00:35:52
Speaker
I'm pretty confident in where the Packers are going into this season. The main thing that I don't want to see that they've had the last couple years is the mental mistakes that have just plagued them to open.
00:36:04
Speaker
2023, we kind of wrote it off to, there was just so much youth on offense at the skill position, play play the skill position. You're breaking in two rookie tight ends. You're breaking in, know,
00:36:16
Speaker
a rookie slot receiver in Jaden Reed, a rookie devot Dontavian Wicks. Watson and Dobbs were injured to start the season and all. um didn't know who the left tackle was because Bach got hurt early and stuff.
00:36:29
Speaker
And so like you had all these things. And then last year it was, you know, Jordan didn't start the year super great, but you you're playing on the slop drop in Brazil. Then he got hurt and then Jordan was playing injured the whole rest of the way kind of thing. So just get off to a, like I said, the wins are what we want, but more than anything for confidence in where this team is supposed to be heading, you want to see them play good, smart, clean football. That's the most important thing going into the season for me.
00:37:03
Speaker
yeah i mean that you just hope for the best everybody knows the first game first true contact i know they had some contact through the preseason but this is their first true contact in meaningful football in a while so yeah uh but see this is where i said i i just don't know if i can see the packers to continue going that undefeated because i don't know if there's a way that they could hear they could lose to the browns they you know the the next week in what's that week three against cleveland and they're a hot mess right now i know their defense is decent and of course miles garrett is is going to be tough
00:37:58
Speaker
but unless he's out isn't he dealing kind of with it an an injury bug also think he's a little dinged up but i think he's expected to start the season like he's gonna play the start of the season yeah but they also announced what flacco is going to be the starting quarterback uh yeah i i just i don't know how well i could I mean, this could be one of those games that the Packers would take lightly and get their asses handed to them. It would be the most Packers thing to win the first two games, have the mini-buy, have all this momentum. you You're atop the NFC because you've beaten two...
00:38:41
Speaker
You've beaten two teams that made the playoffs. One of them made the NFC Championship game. The other one lost to the the team that made the NFC Championship game.
00:38:51
Speaker
And you're riding high. You're like, oh, we have extended time. We're going to get Parsons more integrated. And then you blow a game to the Cleveland Browns. You know, it's your first true road game and all that kind of stuff.
00:39:02
Speaker
But like I said...
00:39:05
Speaker
Even before the Parsons trade, this team was trying to carry itself as a true contender.
00:39:13
Speaker
And you've heard the urgency in LeFleur all offseason. you One of the things we talked about after that first preseason game is LeFleur was pissed about how sloppy they were.
00:39:24
Speaker
in that game and it's carried over into the subsequent preseason games where you know he's like okay we got better but you know he wanted to fight anthony belton in indy because he was he was flagged for so many penalties and all that kind of stuff and finally after the seattle game it was like okay he's like you know i'm not satisfied but i'm pleased that we're in the we're trending in the right direction kind of thing and I do think that this team is going to handle its shit better than the last two seasons have. And so that's why I've got week three as a win. As much as it's like it would be the most Packers thing to win week one, week two, and blow week three, I think they're going to win in Cleveland.
00:40:07
Speaker
Yeah, like I said, it it it would have to be one of those – prototypical packer games where they go into it thinking flacco's gonna start but flacco has some kind of injury that's gonna hold him out and then one of the backups is gonna come in like a tommy devito type deal or or bailey zappy type deal and it just completely throws the packers out of loop but i have them winning this one so i'm at what two and one yeah And I'm at And then week four, as like poetic justice, the Packers go to Dallas before they head into the bye.
00:40:47
Speaker
think, you know, I know Kenny's going to be ready to go that game. I know the rest of those guys are going to try to be out there to prove like what they've got against Micah and all that kind of stuff.
00:41:01
Speaker
I think Dallas is going to be in all kinds of hurt. I think that they're going to be internal, external disarray.
00:41:10
Speaker
never been a Brian Schottenheimer guy. i just think that he's in over his head already. Like the, you know, for things that aren't his fault or his ah ah responsibility, but it's like, yeah, yeah.
00:41:24
Speaker
You haven't even started your first seat. Like you haven't coached your first regular season game and the owner is already making the sideshow, the front show and all that kind of stuff. And like, if the Packers are riding in three and O and Dallas is like one in two or whatever, like,
00:41:41
Speaker
Like I said, as much as you can't really say week one is a must win for the Packers, that's the kind of game that could break the Cowboys early in the season if they lose that game. So I've got the Packers going in undefeated into the bye.
00:41:57
Speaker
think they're gonna end up winning this one i i had this as a win even before the parsons trade but now he's gonna be wanting to come for blood and by this time you would think he would be more comfortable in in halfley's system but i just i think there was more drama behind the scenes than what we're ever truly gonna know that's why some things were going down the way they went down I think he's going to not necessarily want to take it out on the other players, but showed Jerry that you, you messed up.
00:42:36
Speaker
And the Packers have a really good history in Jerry world. And yeah, I think you're right that like that, Like, Michael was always going to play up in a game against the Cowboys. But the fact that the game is in Dallas, I think he's going to play even harder. Because it's like, I could have, maybe on some level, I should have still been here.
00:42:56
Speaker
But you know what? I'm here. I'm happy kind of thing. And, like, let's do this. Let's dance kind of thing. So, yep. It'll be ah ah really interesting to see how that goes.
00:43:09
Speaker
So, week five is the bye. always hate the early buy. But honestly, in this scenario where you have Parsons, you're integrating him and all that kind of stuff, it might be a little good.
00:43:20
Speaker
And especially, like I said, there's so many injury things that we don't know. None of them are like really bad, but you're not certain how you certain guys will be that having the early mini buy and the early the full buy, that might help the Packers.
00:43:35
Speaker
Coming out of the buy, you're at home against the Bengals.
00:43:40
Speaker
This is going to be one of those big tests for Halfley. Having Parsons, I think they're going to nuke that Bengals O-line. I just think they're going to absolutely shred that Bengals O-line up.
00:43:54
Speaker
And they better because they don't match up well on the back end against those receivers. So got to get pressure on Burrell. I've got this one as a coin flip, though, because, like I said, I think, like you mentioned, Halfley should be better integrated, but I'm still not sure we'll see the kitchen sink at this point.
00:44:15
Speaker
But he should be, like, playing, you know, 40, 50 snaps in the game kind of thing and stuff. But Burrow is good. Chase is elite.
00:44:25
Speaker
You have Higgins there to, like, balance out the offense for them. And... yeah i i have it as a coin flip but i think the packers are gonna win this one if mason crosby was still the kicker i think i would go no isn't a slight against mason so much as to say the last time the bingles and packers came together it was the whole mason crosby slaughter fest of missed kicks
00:44:56
Speaker
so remember real black men on twitter going oh no mason yeah yeah i think we were all going oh no mason but uh i i don't know i i'm i'm kind of torn on it like you said coin flip i want to say it's a win just because let's say they do go down or yeah, they over to Cleveland and lay an egg in a most prototypical loss that the Bengals would be a prototypical win if they lost prototypically to the Browns like the Packers have in the past.
00:45:36
Speaker
It's one of those games where they're going to – I hate comparing them to college teams like do, but it's very Hawkeye-esque where they play up to these great teams, but they play down to these bad teams.
00:45:54
Speaker
And that's kind of what the Packers have been doing the last few years. So I have it as a win. i i agree with you, though. It's a coin flip.
00:46:03
Speaker
And then week seven, Packers go to Arizona. think Arizona is like a tire short of a tire fire, but it is the first like cross country trip.
00:46:16
Speaker
The Packers traditionally always have trouble on these kinds of games. It is the afternoon game. So it's not like a travel and, know, have to like wake up early kind of thing and stuff, which would be weird for a West coast game. But I think they're going to win this one.
00:46:36
Speaker
Yeah, the only thing that I could see happening is maybe if there's some ticky tacky injuries going on and we're missing a few players, that
00:46:48
Speaker
it could cause some problems. But overall, I would have to say it's got to be a Packers win. I i don't see the Cardinals being able to pull that off.
00:47:01
Speaker
Yeah, it's a tall task. That that roster's in, I said, they don't know if they're rebuilding or trying to get anywhere. But yeah, so I've got the Packers 6-0. You've them Heading into the Rogers Bowl.
00:47:16
Speaker
And the Packers will be traveling to Pittsburgh. Okay, will they even play Rogers at this point of the season? I don't know, but they'd be really hurting if they are not, because I think they put Will Howard on IR, didn't they?
00:47:34
Speaker
Yeah, and I can't remember if they designated him to return or not, and Mason Rudolph would be their backup. Yeah, I'm just, you know, he's, what is he, 42 or 43 at this point?
00:47:46
Speaker
He's up there, and yeah, yeah. um We'll see what happens. You know, the Steelers are always a tough opponent. They play mostly good football.
00:48:01
Speaker
Their O-line's in flux, though. know, they have DK now. I'm trying to think. I think they still have Friar Muth.
00:48:11
Speaker
I don't know. I'm really struggling to see how I could see them being like a, you know, I don't know how many games they'll have played going into week eight, but, you know, I could see them being like a one or two loss team at that point, but I could also see them being like struggling to be 500 when they face Green Bay. So I do think that the Packers will win that game.
00:48:36
Speaker
this is another one that i'm kind of torn because i could see it just just so rogers could get that distinction of winning you know against all 32 teams that some kind of something goes on to have to have the packers lose this game ah is this before after the trade deadline it should be before i think so there's even a chance somehow that the steelers talk the packers out of romeo dobbs which has been the off-season rumor because rogers isn't happy with the guys he's got over there yeah november 5th is the deadline so they do have
00:49:25
Speaker
ah ah It's one of those situations that I'm kind of confused by it, why they got rid of Pickens too. Unless they were afraid that DK's personality and Pickens' personality couldn't be in the same locker room.
00:49:40
Speaker
But had they kept Pickens on top of getting Metcalf, I would be a little bit more worried about this game. I know my boy Caleb Johnson has been looking pretty good in the preseason for the Steelers.
00:50:02
Speaker
who
00:50:04
Speaker
Again, might have coin flip because let's just say this. If Pittsburgh wins against Green Bay, That is one of your signs that the NFL is scripted.
00:50:17
Speaker
And I, I mean it there's no doubt it my mind that if they beat green Bay, you can tell the NFL is scripted because what better script to, or to continue the Rogers script then to beat his old team, get to the 32 or 32 mark against every team in the NFL.
00:50:43
Speaker
ah ah You just, that's, that's what I guarantee it. That would be more of a reason that the NFL is scripted, but depending on how their offensive line holds up, I don't know if they're going to be able to stop the pass rush.
00:51:01
Speaker
So I got to say Green Bay wins it.
00:51:05
Speaker
Week nine is the Panthers. Packers should win that game. Like, it's at home. um guess this is sort of like a potential trap game.
00:51:16
Speaker
You're at home. It's after the Rogers Bowl. It's right before you face the Eagles on Monday night in Week 10. But this is a game that if you're a serious contending team, you should win this game 99 out of 100 times. And the 1 out of 100 shouldn't happen here.
00:51:36
Speaker
When was the last time Bryce threw for 300 yards? That guy isn't coordinator anymore. Uh, cause that's the only thing that keeps popping in
Facing Key Opponents and Rivalries
00:51:52
Speaker
my mind is somehow they're gonna let Bryce young run all over them.
00:51:59
Speaker
Uh, God, I'm really Homer and all these picks.
00:52:06
Speaker
Oh, boy, he didn't throw for 300 yards last year. I'm telling you, I think the last time he threw for over 300 was against Green Bay.
00:52:16
Speaker
Yep, it was. So he has like a 298 last year, but yeah.
00:52:24
Speaker
So that scares me. And what's even worse is he's more of a get out of the pocket type quarterback too. So even though they've got a room full of speed, are they going to be able to contain him?
00:52:41
Speaker
going to have to go with a win for this one, but a loss for the next one, just because I've got to change it up. Because like I said, i i it looks too Homer-ish that I'm what, six and one going into the Eagles game.
00:52:58
Speaker
And so that's the thing is like, you know, The way this season sets up, if they do what I think they'll do the first two weeks, that could springboard and galvanize them through into this Eagles game, which I do have as a loss. I know it's at home, but these are the defending Super Bowl champs. know they're replacing a bunch of pieces on both sides of the ball, but the core of their team is still there.
00:53:22
Speaker
And until we see otherwise, they're the champs and you got to knock them off. And... I know Green Bay is doing a bunch of things differently and better, but the things that they need to prove they can do, they the the have to prove they can stop the run against the team that wants to run on them.
00:53:41
Speaker
They need to prove that they can shut down an explosive... pass catching duo and that there, you know, what should be an improved, you know, what was reportedly an improved pass rush before the Parsons addition and obviously after the Parsons addition can actually affect Jalen Hurts as passer. so That's a lot of questions, like I said. and is getting into the part of the season where guys are dinged up, you know, who's healthy, all that kind of stuff. And I'm mostly looking at that from a Packers point of view, but I I i do have this as a narrow Packers loss.
00:54:19
Speaker
That's the only way I can see it because I just – there's no way I can go through this – all the way to this portion of the season say they've only lost one – game i some of these games i think are going to come down injuries snaps what luck these teams have got so i've got to have the eagles as a loss even though i think there's a good chance that they could avenge their playoff loss yeah i i think they're gonna be because at this point
00:54:56
Speaker
They should have ironed out a lot of the wrinkles that, you know, we saw in preseason. They should be fully integrating Micah if everything's gone well. Covington's impact, all that kind of, you know, all these things, the arrow should be pointing up and...
00:55:10
Speaker
This should be a measuring... the main thing, like I said, obviously you want to win this game. You can't have like a... You know, in 2019 when they play the 49ers and they get the shit kicked out of them by the 49ers. You can't have one of those games.
00:55:22
Speaker
This has to be, at worst, a competitive loss. Obviously you want the win. But like I said... We're the team with something to prove. And as much as the Parsons addition changes the calculus, there's a lot of questions the Packers have to answer before can get on board with them with saying like, they're going to be, you know, it helps that the game is in Lambeau, but there's a lot of things that have to happen before I'm like, yeah, they're going to beat the defending champs.
00:55:48
Speaker
So moving on to week 11 at the Giants.
00:55:53
Speaker
See, this is tough because on paper, it should be an auto But this is one of those, I'm kind of writing it down as a they might lose a dumb game one because they're so physically beat up from that Eagles game.
00:56:09
Speaker
And I hate to say it don't believe in Jackson Dart. I don't like a lot of the Giants offense outside of outside of neighbors.
00:56:20
Speaker
But It's just one of those situations that it doesn't work out well for the team that plays Philly kind of thing and stuff. And it's a short week.
00:56:32
Speaker
So, yeah, you're going from Monday night to a noon game. Yeah, I just don't like the turnaround on that one. So I've got this one as the second loss of the season. The Packers are home. No, they're going lose back-to-back games in the 2025 season.
00:56:48
Speaker
I've had some of the same thoughts and we're coming into a stretch where it's like, I don't know.
00:56:58
Speaker
think
00:57:00
Speaker
I'm going to change my
00:57:03
Speaker
I think I'm going to change my Panthers one. I think that's going to be the shit the game is the Panthers. So I'm going to go with the Giants or the Packers beat the Giants.
00:57:17
Speaker
Because I think if they come out of that Eagles game healthy but pissed off and come across the Giants that are maybe middling I think they're going to beat the hell out of them.
00:57:34
Speaker
I can easily see that too. So, you said, it, I've got it as like a coin flip to a dumb loss kind of thing, but I can totally see that being the case. Week 12 home against the Vikings.
00:57:47
Speaker
They're going win this game. Long as Jordan and Parsons are healthy. They're going to win this game. Um, Um, um, As much as the Lions are the target, I do think LeFleur is like, I'm freaking sick of losing to the Vikings.
00:58:00
Speaker
And we're going to win this damn game. And we're going to get off on the right foot in the division. So, like I said, it's as simple as that. I think the Packers are the better team.
00:58:11
Speaker
And... You know, JJ won me a national championship at Michigan, but I do have questions on how he'll hold up in the NFL because he's still like his build is not like super strong kind of thing. And he's a thing like he's listed at 219. That's the thinnest 219 I've seen a long time. So, know, will he get to week 12 is my question. And if he doesn't, the Vikings are in trouble.
00:58:39
Speaker
I'm not a JJ believer, no matter what. I mean, just because had he been able to play last year, it'd been different, but he didn't play anything last year.
00:58:54
Speaker
hasn't played anything really other preseason snaps so far. I just, I, I don't think I, I want to say this is going to be a wash year just because he hasn't had that time to get acclimated into the NFL.
00:59:13
Speaker
So I'm going to take it as a Packers win. It's at home. Vikings have pieces, but I think by this time, the Packers will know what they have and know what they can do.
00:59:29
Speaker
Week 13, the Thanksgiving game. I've got this one as a loss. I think, like I said, they're not emptying playbooks or anything, but you're coming off of a division rivalry game going into another one on a short week.
00:59:42
Speaker
And I just think that you're going to split these ones against Detroit. You had to get the one week one. But I think that they're going to drop a weird game on Thanksgiving. I'm going to say the Packers go back to their dominant ways and take out the Lions. both both They're going to be 2-0 against the Lions this year.
01:00:02
Speaker
Again, i think the Packers are going to be a cohesive unit. Yeah, there are going to be some injuries by this point and some guys not doing so great, but who knows? There could be some additions in there similar to Howard Green pickup or an Eric Walden pickup or something like that
Season Predictions and Podcast Conclusion
01:00:19
Speaker
that They're not great players, but they're going to be just good enough to help you.
01:00:29
Speaker
So I'm going to have this one as ah as a a Packers win.
01:00:33
Speaker
Week 14 against the Bears. Win.
01:00:38
Speaker
It's in Lambeau. It's a win. Week 15 at Denver. This one's tough. That Denver defense is going to be good. It all comes down to whatever you think of Bo Nix.
01:00:50
Speaker
I'm not a Nix believer. I've never liked him as a prospect, as a quarterback. know he played well at times last season, but I think Halfley's going to have ah You always do... There's always the concern with going a mile high and all that kind of stuff, but I think the Packers are going to be ramping up for the playoffs, and I think they're going to...
01:01:09
Speaker
You know, I don't think it'll be a blowout because the Broncos defense is that good, but I think it'll be a strong like two possession win kind of game.
01:01:19
Speaker
I'm going to call this and loss. For some reason, the Packers have had a horrid history of going into a mile high.
01:01:30
Speaker
I'm going to call it a loss on this just because think by this time,
01:01:37
Speaker
I think this is going to be one of them ego punctures because I think the Packers will be riding high through, know, four weeks of wins against giants or, you know, theoretically wins from giants, Packers, lions, and then bears that this could be the ego, the puncture one.
01:02:00
Speaker
So I got this one to loss.
01:02:04
Speaker
16 at Chicago win 17 Baltimore. This is another one that I think is going to be, be an ego puncture. Yeah.
01:02:17
Speaker
Uh, hope. above hope that by this time the defense is like a top five defense in the league. And, you know, hopefully Mike is sitting at that nine, 10 sack region and throw another eight from like Rashawn or even LVN or whatever.
01:02:40
Speaker
I hope they can contain Lamar, but I just... I don't know. think they're going to be like that kid in Little League that, oh, no, we can't beat these guys because this is, you know, they have the big kid over there.
01:02:55
Speaker
And so, yeah, I have this one loss.
01:03:01
Speaker
I think so, too. I always have a hard time picking this kind of game for Green Bay. know it's at home, it gives me a little more hope. But You add in, like you said, all the variables about like Lamar, MVP caliber player, um um all that kind of stuff. And it's like...
01:03:21
Speaker
This late in the season, you you're playing for positioning. And yes, you want to win all your games. But also, are you strategically resting guys to keep them healthy and stuff? And I just feel like there's going to be some weirdness to this game that we're not going to be able to account for. So yeah, I do have this one as a loss.
01:03:38
Speaker
And then Week 18, I think it's going to be a win. i think it's going to be one of those secure the top seed kind of games. So I think the Packers are going to show really well in it.
01:03:49
Speaker
that wraps up my season that I have them at 13 and four there. Well, I'm going to call this one a win because I think, I think the floor and them are sincere in the fact that they want to get back to being the top dogs and in the NFC North, and they're not going to let these guys get away with it. So, you know, I understand they're probably not going to come out to a no against the Vikings or to a no against the lions.
01:04:18
Speaker
but I think they're going to have a better record in the NFC North than they have in a while. No more one in five. Right. So, yep.
01:04:31
Speaker
That put a wrap on that. What's it called?
01:04:36
Speaker
Let's get to the season. I mean, um, I know that we've kind of glossed through these games and stuff, but I know we kind of had with the last couple seasons, sort of had the same kind of like, oh, if it goes this way, if this goes that way, but like 23, breaking in a new quarterback.
01:04:53
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24, there were questions on roster, but you were hopeful kind of thing. This year, There are some funky injuries going into the season. The Parsons, like when will he be fully online and acclimated kind of thing. But this was a team I thought they were going to win 11 or 12 games going into the season.
01:05:12
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With Parsons, they should be pushing for the teens. And i know I have them barely breaking into at 13, but 13 wins is a lot of wins in the NFL. So that's where we are with that.
01:05:26
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01:05:48
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01:06:22
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01:06:37
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And will get those answered or worked on as we go to produce the show this season. We want to be putting out content you're looking for. That puts a bow on our off-season talk for the 2025 Packers.
01:06:50
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We roll in, heads high, eyes gold, you know, gold in our hearts and high expectations. And let's see if the Packers can go and meet them.
01:07:01
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Anything else you got before we sign off today?
01:07:05
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No, no. Just keep following us. Let us know what you want us to talk about. And hopefully one of us will be right.
01:07:16
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That's Iowa will Joe. I'm Mike. Go Pack Go and Aloha.