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Malted Minis - Petoskey Brewing "Super Trooper" Coffee and Donuts Brown Ale
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This week we bring you a new format we might use from time to time that we have dubbed "Malted Minis". Not a full episode, but not an After The Final Pour.
This week we sample Petoskey Brewing's "Super Trooper", a brown ale brewed with Columbian coffee beans and donuts from a local producer.
Intro and outro music provided by @FluidMinds
Check out all our episodes at www.themaltinghour.com
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Transcript
Introduction: Episode Name Discussion
00:00:24
Speaker
What are we calling this, guys? I forgot what we said we were calling this. Brandon, what did you name this file? The Molted Minis. The Molted Minis. That's what it is. Here we are in January. It's the Molted Minis. And what are the Molted Minis? Well, they're not necessarily in After the Final Poor. It's more of a smaller episode because, well, it's January.
Brandon's Organizational Skills Shine
00:00:44
Speaker
We're going to take some time off. So we figured, oh, nice glass, Brandon. Why didn't I use mine? What an idiot.
00:00:49
Speaker
I didn't have mine washed in time because Brandon was kind enough to get us, uh, malting our pint glasses.
00:00:58
Speaker
Very exciting. Something that I've wanted to do, but I always just think about it too late. Anyways, so yeah, we're going to do... Brandon's way better at adulting than we are. I've discovered that. This is true. This is true. Have you met his son? Amazing. Nothing against your kids, Dan. I just haven't had the same amount of interactions. Anyway, so yeah, so what we're going to do here, it's January and
00:01:26
Speaker
when you're hearing this. We are recording these in December.
Upcoming Episode Previews
00:01:29
Speaker
We're going to take some time off in January. We do have, I think at least one, two episodes. We got two episodes coming in that just came out in January at the Maltese. And then our visit over at Howard Street. This will be the only month you'll hear Clark once in 2023. And hopefully that's the sign of things to come. Maybe he's just gone. We don't have to deal with him anymore. Although I love his fact checking. And anytime he shows up, I mean, there's always a fun new person we've never met right around the corner.
00:01:57
Speaker
But anyway, um, so this is what we're doing. Happy, happy new year guys. I guess we can say that now, right? I mean, even though it's December, but now people are hearing us say happy new year to each other. So happy new year to the people, to the people, hopefully 20, hopefully 2023 doesn't suck so far.
00:02:12
Speaker
I hope. I mean, it's really early, but I mean, I mean, this year started off twenty, twenty two. Knocking out Betty White in the first week of the year or something like that. Usually not good. Not good. But but but but but but here we go. We are going to. So we're going to talk about a beer like we normally do. And we're all not in the same room. We're all in our own places trying to do this again.
00:02:37
Speaker
And the beer that we are drinking this week is a beer that I got from my boss's boss. Does that make sense? Yes. Thank you. He's still my boss. He's like your brand boss. Yeah, exactly. He is a big brown ale fan, just like myself. He's not a big beer drinker. In fact, every now and then, he will message me and send me a menu.
00:03:04
Speaker
of a place that he's at and he's like, what do you think I should try? Which has become my thing, I guess. But he's a big brown ale fan and I am as well. And he loves this beer.
Charitable Brews: Super Trooper Brown Ale
00:03:15
Speaker
It's from Petoskey Brewing, from Petoskey.
00:03:20
Speaker
michigan which by the way guys is six hours away from chicago if you ever want to go up there and this beer is called super trooper it is a brown ale with coffee and if i'm not let me let me take a look at this it's an english brown ale and it's brewed with columbian coffee beans and donuts from a local producer
00:03:38
Speaker
Yeah. And the can discusses how it is donating 10% of all proceeds from the sale to my cops, Michigan cops, an organization dedicated supporting the surviving families and coworkers of Michigan law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty, which is the name of the beer. Did you say super trooper yet? Sorry. I did. It's super trooper.
00:04:01
Speaker
I can get behind that. I can get behind those proceeds going to those families. Yeah. You know, I was I was actually going to ask you. So my this is a weird story, but my grandma had a dog, a poodle growing up that was named Tosky. And it was after the Petoskey stone, which I don't know if that's what this is, like if you would say a Petoskey, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe there is a stone in Petoskey. I'm going to look it up. Maybe that's what the stone comes from.
00:04:30
Speaker
Yeah, maybe history. This is why this is why this will be 20 minutes, because we're going to let Dan look things up and we don't have Clark on the ball. Oh, no. Did you guys did anybody else? You guys have already poured this. What do you guys or Brandon? Well, Dan looks at this, looks at this up. What do you what do you get on the aroma? Anything?
00:04:54
Speaker
I'm getting some like some dark chocolate, not dark chocolate, like kind of like a milk chocolate esque. And then a definite coffee aroma that's coming coming in hot. I get a strong coffee aroma off of it. And then some some maltiness and definitely smells brown.
The Underrated Brown Ale: Characteristics and Appeal
00:05:18
Speaker
It's got a familiar full context. It's familiar to me in the sense that like any brown ale I've had, not any, but many brown ales I've had. Most, most sure.
00:05:33
Speaker
of a very kind of caramelized malt kind of nose to it. And I picked up on that. When I checked this beer, and that's what I'm going to, part of my descriptor, smells like brown. Yeah, but you're right. I'm a big fan of brown ales. And there are not a lot of brown ales out there. We've talked with other breweries and owners and brewers that brown ales just don't sell very well. And I don't know why.
00:06:00
Speaker
I guess they're not sexy enough, but I love I love a good brown ale. It's like it teeters on the line of, you know, I don't want to say it's not pale ale because pale. I mean, it's it's a refreshing beer that you get a little roastiness from. It's not over the top. It's not like a porter. It's below a porter. But I don't know. I just feel like a brown ale is a nice like an embryo. That's another style that is just kind of a
00:06:27
Speaker
a nice subtle beer that you get different notes that I don't know, I sound like an idiot right now. I just I do love those two styles. Brown ales are my favorite. And I should brew more brown ales. As far as taste goes, I get coffee and there is that like, so if you guys don't know, which you might know, I don't smoke cigarettes anymore. But I do vape. A long time ago, when I was buying all these crazy flavors, there was a donut flavor. I remember that the vape
00:06:56
Speaker
smelled and tastes like donuts. And that's what I get from this. It's not like a not a fake donut taste, but it is like a baked. I don't know. There is a donut cake, like flavor in this. It's not super strong, though. It's more coffee than anything.
00:07:14
Speaker
Yeah, more brown ale, coffee. I was going to say my first couple sips especially, it almost reminded
Innovative Brewing Techniques: Metal Stick Heating
00:07:21
Speaker
me of one of those nitro cans. It had that kind of texture to me at first.
00:07:27
Speaker
I can see that's just me. Even even the head on the beer itself, I was kind of a little reminiscent of that, I thought. Yeah, that little bubbles. Yeah. Yeah. Tiny, tiny, tiny bubbles there. It's it's it's definitely not a nitro beer, but I see what you're saying. It's it's not under car. Yeah. And it's not under carved. It's it's quite nice. Actually, I like this. What are what are Dan? What's your take on? Well, I was just going to say.
00:07:53
Speaker
When I was going to say that Petoskey, there was an Ottawa. Oh, good. You've got the information now. It's said to mean where the light shines through the clouds, which is the name of the city. So there's going off of there. Hmm. We must go up there then to make sure that that is a truth and not just a name they they chose. Yeah. So brown eels. I like brown eels a lot. Like you've been saying, it's hard to find one.
00:08:20
Speaker
I mean, in Florida, there's like the Madura brown ale from Cigar City, which is really good. We're lucky enough to get that up here. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, we get it up here now. And then Midwest Coast does a good one. And then there was one from, I think it was like Tyrena or Tyrena as a Wisconsin brewery, like the Rockies revenge, like barrel aged brown ale. That was pretty good. Yeah, that one is very tasty. I feel like that was
00:08:45
Speaker
When I first got into craft beer, and I found that because it's not like a high like price point for a very late beer, because it's not like super strong in the barrel. But that's it. That is a good example.
00:09:01
Speaker
Up in Evanston, there's the movie theater in their little downtown district. And we went and saw a movie there. And I remember they had that Rocky's Revenge on draft. So I was able to bring that into the movie. Oh, that's nice. Brandon, what about you? What is your history with Brown Nails?
00:09:20
Speaker
It's never been a go-to style for me, and not just because it's not that I dislike them, but I feel most of the time if I'm craving something a little darker, I'm usually going to go stout. Sure. Recently, though, I found myself going more towards dark loggers.
00:09:41
Speaker
Or like the darker Belgians, you know, trying to fulfill my 2022 goal. 2023 goal. Oh, no, no, no, that's 2023. Yes. What I need to do now, like I need to explore the style more because I know like.
00:09:58
Speaker
Aleman has a really good brown ale. Is that Soul Man? Soul Man, I think. Yeah, that's the, it's a salty, we did a Halloween episode with Clark. I think it was Clark's first time on, or one of his first times with the Halloween episode where we grabbed random beers that were like, we couldn't get pumpkin beers, but we got like beers that were. Follish. Somewhat candy inspired. Inspired.
00:10:24
Speaker
I had Soul Man's fantastic salted brown. It was awesome. Yeah. And I know and I think it might have been Soul Man that they did this with. But I know. So one of the guys from Elman used to work over at Fountainhead or IP. Never forget. And they had a night where they were they were pouring the beer and Fountainhead had this really awesome like live fire fireplace. And it was like right. I think it was behind the bar. Yeah, it was behind the main bar.
00:10:53
Speaker
or behind the bar, then there was like an area, like a small little sitting area behind the bar, if I remember correctly, they had a fireplace. But what they were doing is you could buy the beer and they had this iron stoker, like fire, and then they take it out and then dip it into the beer to caramelize all those sugars. Were they doing that with
00:11:12
Speaker
a brown ale or was that like, because I know that that's a lager, like a dark lager that they that is. I feel like it was the brown. It may not have been, but they but something also is telling me that they may have had an English mild that they did. And that would be so good. Yeah. But just the idea of that, doing that with a brown ale or like darker lagers.
00:11:34
Speaker
I definitely want to try that at some point, because that seems like it. Yeah. I can't pronounce it. Fuck. Pronounce beer-shit. It's not very good, but it's a process during which a short metal stick is heated to about 600 degrees Celsius, which is 100, Jesus, 1,012 Fahrenheit, plunged into a beer for a few seconds.
00:12:03
Speaker
I've always wanted to try that. I know there are some places that do that and I've not tried myself, but wanted to go to a place where a professional would do it and I wouldn't, you know, explode my glass or burn my hand. Um, cause that always just sounded like a cool way of trying beer. Yeah, it sounds cool. Um, I just thought whenever Brandon was describing things, I just have another thing I liked about, I liked about Brown nails and I'm not getting it on this one, but some Brown nails, you get like a real nutty character.
00:12:27
Speaker
And I like love that. Like this one, I'm getting more of the coffee and more of like the bitterness, which I don't know if it's from the coffee or from the roast, but it's a little different. One fucking sound bite. I didn't. I was going to say it's a bit nutty. I was waiting for that, Brandon, because we are the old school pandemic zencaster that we use for a long time.
00:12:49
Speaker
I prepared myself with a bunch of full house. Oh, great. Fantastic. We were as a side note, brain and I were very surprised that Dan caught my full house reference. So that's that's good. Hey, I was like when I was a kid, it was all about TGIF.
00:13:09
Speaker
What do you mean when you were a kid? You're still a kid. When I was a kid or 19. Great. So when I was a kidder and it smells brown, we're off to a great start for for our random episodes in January. But speaking of nut browns, didn't Goose Island once have a nut brown? Nut brown ale?
00:13:29
Speaker
That sounds right. Because a brown ale, because if I'm not mistaken, actually pull this up. This is an English brown ale. And there are nut brown ales. I remember Mike and I, one time, had brewed a nut brown. I think we called it. So, oh, I've had this Southern pecan leaf from lazy Magnolia before. We called it. Goose goose had a beer called nut brown.
00:13:54
Speaker
Yeah, and I remember really liking that. Hexnut. Hexnut, yeah. That's the other one. And Dogfish had also had a brown ale for a while, and I don't remember the name of that. That wasn't the raison d'etre, was it? No, no, no, no, no. I think it was just called brown. Yeah, and it was just a... it smells like brown. It was just a brown ale. But there is something that I just find... Indian brown. There you go.
00:14:21
Speaker
I don't know, I when I did the homebrew competitions at Lake Effect, I did a coffee brown ale because I think coffee pairs nicely with a brown ale. But just a standard straight up brown ale to me is it's definitely a fall beer. It's it's like when you're transitioning from, you know, summer into fall. It's a nice beer to have in a cool evening in your yard around a fire.
00:14:51
Speaker
Thank you for laughing out there. But it's true. I was looking at something on my phone. OK, that's not true. Thank you. But yeah, a brown ale to me is just such an underrated style. And I know during the Maltese, I think we said we'd brew at least five beers. And a brown ale is something that I'm going to do and perfect. It's a fun style that I feel like is
00:15:19
Speaker
To me, you can do a lot with it, but it's it's best to keep it simple, kind of like a pale ale. So I think having a solid pale ale and a solid brown ale and, you know, Brandon, you and I have a nice imperial stuff that we are going to do this year. I will say I'm pretty surprised that this is seven point three percent. Oh, shit, I didn't know that. Yeah.
00:15:43
Speaker
Um, it's, it's, it drinks. Like it's like four and a half percent. It's not super sweet. It's not boozy. I mean, I'm not super boozy from 7.3%. When I was looking up names on untapped, I was just like, I wonder how many brownies I've had. And so I've had a lot.
00:16:01
Speaker
I haven't done untapped in a couple of years, but I am. There's like, but it breaks it down. Stop tagging you and shit. American brown ale, Belgian brown ale, English brown ale, Imperial double brown ale and other brown ale. And I've had 27 plus 11. That's 38, 40, 48 is in math, like 54 different brown ales on here, which kind of was in mind. You know what? That's a I kind of want to find out as far as brown ales, how many I've had.
00:16:30
Speaker
It's probably I've had 23 American. Ooh. I've even had one from Eris that I forgot about. Let's go all the way back. I have 47 brown ales that I have checked in over over time. Two brothers, the more the merrier brown ales brown ales brown ales, like a classic. Wait, did you say Southern Percon from Lazy Magnolia? Yeah. Yeah. That's an English brown ale. I had that back in 2014.
00:17:02
Speaker
Interesting. Also, the last time I had a brown ale was the Working Mom Brown Ale Imperial Double from Revolution. Oh, Revolution Batch 1000 was an Imperial Brown Ale, according to Untapped. Oh, and you know what?
Tasting Reflections: Personal Brown Ale Preferences
00:17:20
Speaker
One of my local favorites is brownie points from Maplewood. That's also a brown ale. When I brewed my brown ale two years ago,
00:17:30
Speaker
I think I was drinking that. But yeah, I this is the first year I think in the last like three or four years that I didn't brew a brown ale around this or around this time of year. Kind of bummed fat squirrel. Oh, yeah. That's a really good one. Oh, Newcastle. Just joking. Oh, yeah. I don't know if they make it anymore, but Cigar City had one called Arudum. And I had that. I mean, looking at this back in 2014, and it was like one of my highest rated ones that I have on here.
00:18:00
Speaker
Yeah, I also certainly is coffee bender. All right. That was good. Call the one of the brown ales that I had from Dogfish had was Paulo Santo Marone 2013. Brown. It's imperial brown ale. Man, I have had a lot of. And then Goose Island's Christmas Ale was considered a brown ale. Yes. Yeah, I saw that vegan lumberjack from old Irving. Yeah, I got that one, too. 2018. Yeah.
00:18:28
Speaker
So, so I'd say that we've we've definitely had a handful of brown ales over time. Oh, Wilco. Extremely naughty goose. What is that? It was a goose island beer, which I don't even see what the description is, but I had it in 2014. Wilco Tango Foxtrot WTF from Laguanitas, 2017.
00:18:54
Speaker
That was another imperial double. So there are like imperial. There's a lot more than we remembered. But yeah, again, but also from like years ago. Yeah. And they don't I guess they don't sell well. But you know, I know there's a you know, the logger revolution going on here. I'd like to see the brown ale amber revolution come to life. Let's see that. Let's start that, you guys. So I will say just looking at my untapped, a lot of the brown ales I've had been it looks like from when I was traveling a lot.
00:19:23
Speaker
And just going to breweries and trying stuff. So interesting that that's the style that you would go to while traveling. Well, a lot of times you flights. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of those like when I was going to say a lot of those and a lot of mine were too, not just flipping through, but they're like you go to a brewery in the middle of nowhere or like whatever. And it's like those old school brew pub beers like Brown ale, whatever. I mean, like a stout, but, you know, like a more like old school stout.
00:19:53
Speaker
I feel like going to a brewery for the first time and I saw a brown ale, I would definitely maybe not a full pint, but a bigger pour than a taster if it was offered. Oh, so cool. Dan, it's not about me being cool. It's just that I enjoy brown ales. Not everything is us needing to go after each other, Dan. Maybe that should have been our brewery year's revolution. Resolution is to just maybe be kinder to each other.
00:20:21
Speaker
We can try. OK, maybe we'll try that for 2024. The rest of this year, it's we're not we're not going to game on. I want to have good episodes, not boring. So bullshit. If you guys had also a shout out, I do like the idea that.
00:20:39
Speaker
It's called Super Trooper. I mean, I like the idea behind of why it, you know, where the proceeds, 10% of the proceeds go. But also, I do love the movie Super Troopers. Also, Super Troopers 2, even though it took a long time to happen, was like, it was pretty good, pretty good. So I do like the name of that. Also, my boss is boss who got this beer for me.
00:21:00
Speaker
I don't know if he did it this time, but he told me the last time that he bought it, he bought an entire case of this beer. That's how much he likes it, which I just find very interesting for someone who doesn't like beer, loves brown ales, but this beer to me is more coffee and then a little bit of that pastry donut
Super Trooper Rating and Flavor Notes
00:21:19
Speaker
type taste. And then I get a brown ale. It's, it's a decent, it's a decent beer for me. Like I like it. I would, I would definitely, he goes up there again. I would definitely, uh,
00:21:29
Speaker
like to have some more. Brandon, if you had to rate this out of five Browns, out of five Cleveland Browns, we're definitely not. Or any of them to Sean Watson. Say no. We're not gonna rate this. I went to Cleveland Brown from Family Guy.
00:21:53
Speaker
How many Cleveland's would you know, that's that sounds terrible. How many? Oh, what can we do this? How can we rate this? How many nuts? How many nuts? How many donuts would you give this out of five, Brandon? 3.75. I think that's fair in your overall take on this beer. I liked it.
00:22:14
Speaker
It smells like brown, which is pleasing. I'm struggling to get, I think a little bit in the kind of the aftertaste, I'm getting some of the donut. I wish it was a little more prominent. I feel like I'm starting to get metallic. The coffee is really strong. And I don't dislike coffee and beer by any means. But when there's another adjunct in there like donuts, I wish it was a little stronger.
00:22:43
Speaker
So you're kind of hoping for more, more of a balance of the donut and coffee around now. Uh, Dan, you had said metallic. Do you think that you're getting that from the actual beer or is that a combination of the beer and the coffee or all everything that's involved in there? I mean, I've never gotten it on a coffee beer before. So I'm assuming it's just the beer, like the base beer, but who knows? Um, it's not like.
00:23:08
Speaker
off-putting in a sense I just like occasionally when I like swish around my mouth I get that like like metallic like blood tinny kind of
00:23:19
Speaker
taste. Maybe like ulcer in your mouth. Yeah, maybe maybe you should see a doctor. I do think I was going to say I agree with Brandon that it's like really strong in a coffee. I don't know if I get doughnut on it, but who knows? But I do want to say that you should tell your boss's boss that we said thank me out.
00:23:39
Speaker
And that was good. That actually was pretty good. I don't know if that was appropriate. That should have been better. Do we have a ha ha or applause? Laugh. Yeah, no, that's good. So Dan, out of five donuts, how many donuts are you giving this beer? I'm going to go with three, two, five. I think that's fair.
00:24:05
Speaker
And is that based off of the beer itself or other brown is OK? Yeah, comparing it to other brown ales in memory. OK, I think I'm in between you guys, or maybe I'm leaning more towards Brandon. I love a good brown ale. I think this is good. I would definitely drink it again. Is it something I would seek out? Probably not.
00:24:31
Speaker
But I'm a sucker for brown ales. And I think the coffee is done really well. I think that the donut that I'm getting, maybe I'm sensitive to it again because of the whole vaping thing. So I just kind of pick up on.
00:24:45
Speaker
I don't know. It's like a baked, not fake flavor. I don't know, but I'm getting something in there. Um, I would say maybe a three, five, and I would definitely, um, want to try it again. But for a brown ale, I mean, it's definitely tasty, but man, 7.3%. That is, uh, crazy that that's how high it is in alcohol, which, you know, you have one of these, um, it's probably a good splitting beer. You know, if the three of us were there together and we split the can three ways, I think it'd be good.
00:25:14
Speaker
Yeah, I do want to say it's a good coffee brown ale. I just, like I said earlier, like the more like nut brown ales. So I mean, me dinging it like that, it's more of like personal preference. I mean, I feel like that's those. Yeah, that's that's fair. Dan, welcome to the show. This is your second year.
Episode Conclusion: Social Media and Teasers
00:25:32
Speaker
I'm glad you can start using your personal preferences and your fucking readings. Jesus.
00:25:38
Speaker
Overall, I think it's pretty good. And hey, way to go on our first little, what is it called, Brandon? I forgot already. The Molted Minis. The Molted Minis, just like a cereal. And I found a nice little song that we're going to use. Thank you again to Fluid Minds for the intro. And well, I think that's going to be it for this one. Dan, keep it real. You keep it real also.
00:26:01
Speaker
Thanks man. I didn't know you were done. I thought you were like, can I say something else? No, no, but I wish you could see how distorted, uh, you look right now. Your face looks like it's melting. It's like a skull. Now he's distorted for me now too. It's insane. Who do you use for your internet, Dan? Why is it? I mean, mine, it's not showing me is it sorted or you guys is distorted.
00:26:22
Speaker
Brandon looks fine. I look fine. You look like you have no eyes and maybe your face is melting off your skull. I see he looks worse for you. Oh, yeah, it's terrible. Brandon, I love you, buddy. Let me comment. And everybody will see you guys next week for another melted minis.
00:26:43
Speaker
This has been The Malting Hour. Be sure to follow us on all social media by searching The Malting Hour and at themaltinghour.com. You can also follow us individually on social media. Brandon can be found on Instagram as bmdub81, on Twitter, bdub81, and on Untapped as bdubdrinksbeer. Tony can be found on Instagram and Untapped under Ace of Hope Chicago. On Twitter, The Ace of Hope Chicago. Clark can be found as Clarkowski on all three.
00:27:11
Speaker
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