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Redefining Leadership & Feminine Liberation with Geralyn Power
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Hello beautiful souls!
This is an episode about redefining what leadership looks like as we collectively are unlocking our remembrance of the divine feminine to experience true liberation through nurturing, slowing down and softening.
Thank you for being here and listening into this heartfelt interview with Geralyn Power,. Geralyn is a force radiating with intelligence and passion. Her work is about teaching women to find trust and faith in the life cycle we all experience of life, death & rebirth. She is a steady & powerful voice for liberating women & families to come home to their highest dharma. She is a homeschooler, homemaker , podcaster & entrepreneur.
I felt immediately drawn to Geralyn's liberating and rebellious spirit. In this episode, we cover her recent life transitions and shifts that have brought her to be fully present, leading at home first as a mama and as a visionary for women returning to their remembering of what it actually is to be living in our divine feminine.
We explore:
-Her passion in helping women remember who they are & teaching of alchemy in the life, death & rebirth process that connects us all.
-Breaking down what shifted in our society for families during the point of the industrial revolution and how that has continued to impact us as a society trying to obtain "the american dream"
-How we have become disconnected to our most natural rhythmic roots & what is the benefit of being in tune with our cyclical nature
-Debunking the myths and issues with chasing the "healthy" lifestyle we are being inundated with in our programming.
-Unwrapping our beliefs that being in the void of the "dark night of soul" is bad or wrong but actually necessary to remembering our soul's truest path in this life.
-How the initiation for women in the middle of life can be transmuted into a positive experience of wisdom, growth and self connection
-Healing the feminine & our matriarchal lines can affect us deeply in our approach to maturing and nurturing ourselves
-Returning process of remembering our divine feminine nature
-Alchemizing from within & deepening into your true dharmic path
-Stop searching power and authority outside of ourselves. Fully trusting yourself and allowing external influences to purely be signs and guides along our way.
-Shifting from wounded masculine pursuits to embracing a sense of peace
-We talk about the vulnerability and lessons from our common experiences from dark and light of being business leaders in a network marketing.
-Trusting in the process of being held in slowness while navigating the balance of going slow and healing our tendencies to be in the wounded masculine energy
-Geralyn's vision for holding space and creating accessible for all connection & community.
Geralyn's podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/story-sorce-ery/id1476211592
Reference: Entering the Castle, Carolyn Myss
https://www.amazon.com/Entering-Castle-Finding-Inner-Purpose/dp/074325533X/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=616863043593&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9010100&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=17713513169539509145&hvtargid=kwd-2728736992&hydadcr=24659_13611768&keywords=enter+the+castle&qid=1682170999&sr=8-1
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Introduction to Geraldine Power
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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Feel Good with me, Renee. We have an incredible guest today, Geraldine Power. Geraldine is a mother, a guide, an alchemist. Her deepest wish is to guide you and your family to come home to their highest purpose and your liberated leadership.
Leadership Softening & Homeschooling
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We talk about her own pivot into softening and redefining leadership for herself and how she is showing up for her family. Now, as a homeschool mom, we talk about the importance of honoring the cycles of life, staying in rhythm with nature. So much good stuff.
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Jerilyn is naturally rebellious, which I particularly find to be so appealing. I just got so much out of this conversation and I know that you will too. Jerilyn and I have a shared background in the business of doTERRA. We talk a little bit about both of our experiences with that, the struggles.
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some of the highs and lows.
Connection Through Mutual Interests
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So if you have any interest in hearing about that, you'll have to stick around to the end of the episode. But please, without further ado, enjoy this conversation with my new friend, Jerilyn. Hi, Jerilyn. Thank you for being on the podcast today. Thanks for having me.
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I felt a connection with you when we were introduced by our mutual friend, Natalie, and I'm really grateful that you took time and space today to be here to share with us.
Homeschooling & Communal Learning
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Yeah, my pleasure. Yeah. So I have been absorbing some of your energy online. I was reading through some of your Instagram and listening to some of your podcasts.
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And I'm really feeling so much resonance with a lot of what you share and wondered if you could maybe jump in and just give us a little introduction to what you are really leaning into and feeling passionate right now. And then maybe we'll go back and talk about how you came to this place of feeling this way.
00:02:38
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Sure. So yeah, it's been quite a journey and we can unpack that. But right now in my life, I'm 38 years old. I'm a mom to three small children, three girls, six and under. And basically since 2020 and the pandemic happened and I had my third baby, I have been extremely passionate about
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like learning how to settle into this new role our family has been guided into. I felt a strong pull in my heart to start a homeschooling journey. We recently moved and we found a homeschool pod for my oldest daughter. And so there's a big focus on not so much
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the individual, so just mom at home, doing all the things, the cooking, the cleaning, the homeschooling, but more so a communal collaborative space is what pinged me when 2020 was going on. And I think many of us had certain awareness as to what was happening and many of us had been guided to think about things differently or make shifts for our family.
Embracing Life Cycles & Feminine Studies
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There were big shifts for us, so I was seeking this very communal collaborative setting, I guess you could say, and it still hasn't manifested in the way
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that my heart is seeking, but I know that it's going to take a lot of time. The homeschooling piece has really come together. So we found this beautiful communal pod and that's something I'm really passionate about right now is exploring alternative forms of education. And in my work with women, I am extremely passionate as a coach, as a spiritual guide,
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I want to make sure I say this properly. I'm passionate about holding the container in the space for women to have faith in their life, death, rebirth process that's happening for them right now, because it's happening to all of us.
Impact of Industrial Revolution on Community
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And so I essentially teach alchemy. I, um, my back, I mean, 12 years ago now, if I take you back 12 years ago, I left my government job and I started studying yoga and meditation and different forms of energy work. And I got into the healing arts and grew a few businesses. And from there I joined a priestess school, which is school of the divine feminine. And so now I kind of merge everything I've learned and unlearned and returned to into
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essentially an alchemical container for women. And I'm really, really passionate about that. I'm still very much a student of it myself, of course, but I am passionate about helping women remember, you know, just remember who we were before this very patriarchal society.
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came to be. I'm very passionate about history and looking at 200 years ago when the Industrial Revolution took place.
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It was a very different way of being for families before that happened. And then if you look at after, we were essentially trained, right? We were trained, and for anyone who's not familiar, Industrial Revolution is when technology took over machinery and
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children went off to school and people went to work in jobs and we were pitched. We started to be pitched, you know, the American dream and this model of productivity. And this is where that very collaborative communal way of life shifted into an individual life, like chasing your dreams. I want this. I want that.
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or working for someone else's manufacturing goals, let's say, right? Or business goals. And so I'm really passionate about breaking down history as well, because I think this conversation about returning to a more, I guess, cyclical, simple life can be hard and triggering.
Modern Disconnection from Nature
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And the alchemy of that
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is something I think we're all facing in our own way. So I also like to weave in some history and remind people that it was only 200 years ago that we actually lived very communally. We lived in a very rhythmic way. We went to bed when the sun went to bed. We weren't on TikTok at 10 o'clock at night. You know what I mean? Because now in the world, so we had the Industrial Revolution, which introduced technology in a certain way in this model of productivity.
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And I think that really kick-started humanities fall into malnourishment, disconnection, out of tune with our rhythmic nature. And now it's interesting what our kids will look back on and call this time, but now we're almost facing this secondary disconnect with cell phones in our pockets and everything moving online and with AI taking over,
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It's now disconnecting us further from nature. We're all kind of aware of it and we're all sort of spinning around like, what the F do we do? And so.
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I mean, that's a whole can of worms, but you asked what I'm passionate about. I'm passionate about all of that, all of that. So anywhere you want to go with that. No, I could unpack so much. First of all, my mom heart just resonates with what feels so aligned that you are focusing on with your little, little
Parenting & Community Across Borders
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kids. I am in a phase now where
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My kids are 11 and almost 17, and it seems like literally just a blink of an eye that I was feeling that call too, but I could never quite get there. You live in Canada, obviously, well, from my perception, I feel like Canada is a little bit more progressive with some of that.
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in certain areas maybe than where I was in very dense suburbs of Washington DC where we really didn't have a lot of these more
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I guess alternative options for raising kids. There's these little pockets. There are little pockets even around the states like Missouri is known as a very sort of like homeschooling community and there's certain pockets even here in Canada, but you're right. If you were not in an established area too where people were going first and
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and inspiring this different way of thinking and being, then of course, of course, like how are you supposed, you know what I mean? It's tough. Yeah. And I've spoke about this before, but you know, my kids, and I think we have, you know, maybe some resonance on this too, is my kids are, I mean, they're highly sensitive, they're empathic.
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very wise beyond their years. And when I started to see how the system of... I mean, we've been through it with especially my older daughter. I mean, we almost... I was at a point as a mom where I was willing to relocate us
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from Virginia to North Carolina to be near a Waldorf school. Because I thought, oh, Waldorf is the closest thing that I found that makes any sense to how they're approaching an individual child. And I literally, we went there for a tour and my husband's like, what are we doing? I'm like, no, you know, you just you feel that sense of like, I know the path my child needs and this is so not it. And I just commend you for taking ownership and, you know, responsibility over driving that because I think for me, I still feel
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I felt like I was not cut out, quote, unquote, to be a homeschool mom. I felt a lot of insecurity around that, you know, and that being like my line path. So anyway, that's one thing I just wanted to speak to that I just feel such a heartfelt resonance that you shared. And yes, we have gotten into these
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these patterns in our world where we're thinking the norm is this disconnect.
Health Benefits of Natural Rhythms
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And I love that you are bringing it back to cycles and nature and finding our rhythm because they're, I mean, what is the benefit in, and it seems somewhat obvious, but in your experience and what you're teaching, what is the benefit to someone coming back in to tap into the natural rhythm of,
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It's like seasons, personal cycles. Can you speak to that a little bit? Yeah. The benefit is your health. The benefit is your health. We are animalistic cyclical beings. And so when we stray away from that, I believe that's when we become a very sick.
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society. I love studying, you know, I love science, but I'm very particular about the doctors and the scientists that I learned from.
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But I also look, I'm very like science meets spirit. I love studying mystics and I think we've lost a connection to nature because we've lost a connection to feminine wisdom because that's the feminine. The feminine is more our connection to the earth, our connection to the great mother, our connection to the goddess.
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And there are great feminine scholars, teachers, religious teachers, mystics, who have spoken throughout history about our connection to nature and how that provides health and vitality. Yeah. And, you know, I'm also very
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rebellious in the sense that I am a deep seeker of truth. Like I want to get to the root of things. It bothers me when I can't get to the root of things. And when it comes to health in North America, right in the West,
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I saw this reel on Instagram yesterday and I was cracking up because it's so true. There's a gym on every corner. We all take a thousand supplements. We're obsessed with eating organic and spreading awareness around that, which, hey, I get it. And I have been on that path for many years, unlearning the harm in our food system and all of these things.
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I just had someone on my podcast recently, my friend Nadine from That Green Glow, and she is very passionate about science and spirit as well. And she was saying that really food is only about 15 to 20% of our overall health portfolio. And so yes, it's important. And yes, many of us, because of our
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post-industrial revolutionary ways are seeking fast food and convenience and all of these things. And yes, this is a problem. It's really, if you look at the grand scheme of things, it's only a certain percentage. And so what some of the great mystical teachers speak to is that our connection to the land that we live on, our connection to
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the seasons, meaning, for example, it's normal to hibernate and rest more in the winter, even our connection to our innate gifts as women. So for myself, for example, I'm a deep thinker and because I love truth and I love getting to the root of things,
00:15:26
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I am sort of like the strategist in my family. And so for me, like it doesn't require eight hours a day of work in order for me to be successful and productive. I'm actually really good at working three, four hours a day and being highly successful. So that would be an example of like my
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connection to nature. And it took me a long time to get to that place. I used to wake up, go for a 10K run, like take 12,000 supplements, work for eight hours. I was always chasing this endorphin high and always chasing the next thing. And I felt great until one day I didn't feel great. And my body started breaking down. And I think this is where a lot of people are at is like, oh, but wait, I'm doing what all of the health community is telling me to do. Why is my body breaking down?
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Because that whole, like there's a mismatch in that percentage, I sort of see it in my head as a graph of like if food and our self-care rituals and all of that is really whatever it is. I'm sure there's some nuance, 15 to 20%. The rest of it is our relationships. It's our communal relationships. It's our relationship to the earth. It's our relationship to the seasons. It's our relationship to our own gifts and talents and how much of that
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how much of that actually requires me to be productive, like what does that look like? I mean, there's so many aspects, but as we attune more to nature's rhythms and our own internal rhythm, we naturally become
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healthier and it might not feel like it at
Soul Activation & Personal Growth
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first. And something I'm really passionate about teaching women because when they start this path, they're like, Oh my God, I'm sleeping all the time. I'm tired. I'm like, you're just catching up. Your body's just, your body's actually restoring.
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and returning and releasing and detoxifying. And so you just got to give it, you got to give it time as you kind of transition into this more rhythmic pace. Does that answer your question? Oh my gosh. So much and so much more that I just feel in my soul.
00:17:39
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I think of it in how I've come to go through a very disruptive period. I mean, we all do, right? That path, that cycle of disruption and then being in a void is the way I've somewhere taught it or learned it or thought of it as. And then you're in this void and you're
00:18:02
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kind of in this floating liminal, like what is what I used to have it all figured out. You know, like you said, like I was on this hamster wheel of chasing and doing and thinking this is exactly what we're all doing, right? Like I'm doing the thing, right? You know, like shouldn't I be feeling so amazing from this? And then I had to really come to terms with
00:18:25
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a death like you were speaking to in terms of the cycle of going through a death and a rebirth. And I'm just now, I mean, that was like a lot of us in, you know, experience in the collective, this aligned perfectly with 2020. I mean, it was literally February 2020, I started to just
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or maybe a little bit before that actually, but started to come into the space of like, whoa, wow, this isn't working. I feel totally...
00:18:56
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not good. I feel not myself. I feel like all these things I've been teaching other people to do, I'm starting to second guess. And it was just a major disruption. And I was very confused around that. So the fact that I love that you are holding space for people to work through that void. And then of course, we all love the expansion. When you come out the other side and you're like,
00:19:18
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the things that I've learned and how I can now reconcile those pieces and find the real growth and transformation in it. But it's not easy. And I think so many of us are really facing that or have been.
00:19:33
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you know, head on, like full tilt, like, whoa. So can I just make a comment about the void for a second? Yes, please. Because I was mentioning some great mystics and scholars earlier and then I kind of went on a tangent. This is what I do. I go here and I go there, but I eventually bring it all around.
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So there's a really great book called Entering the Castle, is it? So Saint Teresa of Avila. She's actually, I believe, a Catholic saint, but she's also known as a mystic. And she talked about the soul's purpose.
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when it comes to Earth is to explore the interior walls of the castle. And the soul will actually go through, it's supposed to go through two dark night of the soul time periods on Earth. And it starts with entering that void where you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And she says it's seven layers deep.
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which is really interesting. And so there is no external model. I'm sorry, there is no supplement. There is no nothing that's going to fix this process. It's an internal bodily process. We have to get into our 3D body and feel like you have to feel the void. Then you have to feel what's beneath the void. And then you have to feel what's beneath that. Like you're going through the layers to get to the soul.
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And the soul is what then becomes more activated, which is the whole point. The soul then starts to turn on louder, brighter. It's this remembrance that is activated within us. And where we go, like, have you ever had an experience, Renee, through these times where
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You start to remember, it's a remembrance of like, whoa, wait, this is how I'm, this is what health means to me, my body. This is what, whoa, wait, this is what feels right. Not what is kind of said all out there externally. And I'm not trying to judge everything that's said out there externally. I'm just trying to get to the heart of this. So I like to normalize for people that these dark times, these dark nights,
00:21:39
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are inevitable. And it's how we do our humanly work to return to the soul, which is light and eternal and all of these beautiful things. But yeah, the void is part of it. But there's this belief in our culture, we have to unwrap our brains about it. There's this belief in our culture and the health and wellness space that the void is bad.
Middle-aged Women & Self-Discovery
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dark and all of these things, but it's actually the bravest souls, the most wise souls, the most courageous souls that are willing to sit in that void and be with that void and dig underneath that void. That is the spiritual work we came to do. It's not always pretty and polished. Definitely not. No, I am absolutely, I totally feel what you're saying. And
00:22:24
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There's also something that I wanted to ask you about because I read it and I was like, yes, like this is something I think you wrote on your Instagram, but about.
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Cause I'm 45, like I'm in it. Like I am in the middle of life. And so you were talking about honoring the feminine maturation process and just how we can get to this middle age place and we can feel like, oh, I went and I did the thing. And you know, I achieved this level of success, quote unquote. And I'm still feeling numb, disconnected,
00:23:03
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and just how that came to be, right? Wasn't an ASCII in your experience and in your expertise and wisdom, like, is it because we are so taught to lean into these masculine ways that we are so taught to be, you know, successful and we can do all the things too, and, you know, all those kinds of, in my opinion, pretty damaging thought processes.
00:23:34
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What do you feel about that, that middle of life, like what's happening just in terms of middle of life and being feeling numb and disconnected? Cause now I'm starting to notice and see, this is a very common thing, very common for women my age.
00:23:54
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So you're asking about middle-aged women feeling numb, disconnected from their bodies, from emotions, like sort of the spectrum of that, like just feeling, yeah, okay.
00:24:07
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One thing I want to say off the hop that's just pinging me. So I'm 38 is women who are a little bit older than me in my priestess school have definitely shared that the time of menopause and even leading up to it can be one of those dark night of the soul periods. It's very common. And so just something to sit with, right? Just something to sit with that it can be a time when women are initiated
00:24:34
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deeper into their power, but it might feel dark and mysterious and murky for a little bit.
Self-Compassion & Ancestral Influences
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So I think for sure, holding steady, seeking the wisdom of women who've gone before you, who've been through that, who could perhaps help midwife you through that is key. Another few things that are hanging me though is that
00:25:00
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So many things. I mean, even hormonally, I have a naturopath coming on my podcast actually to talk about this, where she speaks to, yes, what you said.
00:25:12
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We've been raised to be more in the wounded masculine in this model of productivity our whole lives. And so if you look at women from a hormonal perspective outside of the West, they don't have the same menopausal experiences as we do here. In fact, they tend to not get as many symptoms at all because they haven't been burning out their adrenals their whole life like we are. So my naturopath explained this to
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me in the sense that if we have been overtaxing our adrenals our whole life, even when we didn't realize it, even when we were maybe feeling good for years, but just working out of alignment with nature, that takes its toll on the adrenals. And so there's a shift that happens when you approach menopause and you come into menopause where
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Again, don't quote me on this. You'll have to look into it. But the way my ND explained it is certain hormones switch off when you stop ovulating and then the adrenals have to take over. So if they've been taxed out or maxed out, they're going to struggle. And so your symptoms might be heightened. And so even as I say that, I just
00:26:25
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The word I hear is compassion, like having so much compassion for ourselves, so much forgiveness. I think about ancestral healing and our matriarchal line, our grandmothers and our mothers who they didn't know. And some of that could even be weaved into this conversation, things that we inherited, right? And so this is where, again, as an alchemist, I speak to a lot of
00:26:55
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Stillness, meditation, getting quiet, hands on your womb, loving up your womb. When you do move your body, gently walking, moving your hips, dancing, really trying to attune yourself in whatever way you can to the body. It's this practice of forgiveness and saying, I forgive myself. I didn't know. I forgive. I want to forgive.
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what my mother didn't know and my grandmother didn't know. It's just a lot of forgiveness, a lot of flushing through and a lot of deep inward listening to what your womb, your creative center has to share with you during the sacred time.
Teaching Children Self-Care
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And then the other thing that's pinging me is, you know, we also were not taught as children how to listen to our bodies. And I think our generation, we're really trying to
00:27:55
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change that with the conscious parenting.
00:27:58
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movement and that's something any women listening can really adapt in their own homes is starting at a young age, developing different rites of passage for your girls, especially as they grow up, helping them to really honor their bodies by asking questions like if they're having an off day, like what are you feeling in your body? And don't tell them the answer. Let them tell you, teaching them things like how to have a bath to sort of clear their energy after
00:28:27
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a long day, teaching them how to hold and mother themselves until our society can do the work to create communal spaces where we can come together in a way that's more regenerative and supportive. We have to, I think, be able to model and then teach how to hold ourselves through, how to honor rest, how to honor some of these
00:28:51
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these dark moments and these dark times because it will flush through and it will pass. It will. It's just a holding steady. Yeah. So that's, I would say, hormonally, the matriarchal line and then the childhood stuff is kind of like three things that are pinging me.
00:29:10
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Yeah. And when you were starting to explain that, I was thinking so much of what we're exposed to and we absorb and the influences from in our homes, in the media, in the world. And we think we can just really
00:29:28
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find a return to connection with herself. That's a big thing I talk about on here in terms of, you know, I think the feeling good part of this podcast is the feeling connected, the feeling back into yourself and not necessarily looking at what everybody else is doing, right? Because that can in and of itself be quite misleading at times, although most of it well meaning, right? But it's that one size fits all
00:29:57
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approach I have really backed off on. Yes. Oh, gosh. Like, so much, like, you know, that developing of your own internal, well, your intuition and teaching that that's so beautiful. And I feel like I kind of gave myself a pat on the back because I was like, I feel like I've done that with my kids in terms of like turning it back to themselves and what feels good to them and what they need in the moment.
00:30:25
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Yeah, it gets deep, right? And it gets a little sticky when you start to feel... Because, yeah, I mean, definitely when you talk about your lineage and how you were raised and it starts to really come into focus sometimes, it's like, ooh, like, yeah, there are some things. It's taking a loving look at that because my mom was raised
00:30:47
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at a time when fat was demonized and she would eat zero point weight walkers every day. And, you know, from a hormonal perspective as well and supporting the adrenals and supporting our body, there was so much darkness that was, you know,
00:31:05
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thrown at that generation. And I mean, it's still out there today and it's packaged differently. I think as middle aged women right now, we're really, I love what you said about sort of turning that off because it starts to feel like a toxic virus coming at you. And I'm very sensitive to that as well. And sometimes I see these things on the internet and I tell women like,
00:31:28
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It's a lot to digest and metabolize when you start to see whoa, whoa, like this is not it. Yeah, this is not it. So we have to go really slow and be very gentle with ourselves.
Natural Movement & Intuition
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Also, this is super random, but castor oil, rubbing castor oil on the belly and on the womb.
00:31:48
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It's just one of those natural things that can help, like it can help you digest the emotion around this and help you digest everything you're alchemizing out and just walking in nature as well. Like one of my favorite things to do, and as I've shifted more into the feminine and I'm healing the feminine is my body repels lifting weights. My body repel, and maybe that won't be forever, but I need to just get outside
00:32:13
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And I resisted this for the longest time. I was trying to force my body into all of the things I used to do, running, lifting weights, all of these things. And my body was like, stop it. We're not doing that right now. And I was like, oh, shit. And so I will just walk. I'm like, why don't I just walk? And it's actually really nice. There's no screens. There's no bright lights. There's nobody yelling at you to bike hard. Oh, gosh. I'm just like walking, knocking. Who would have thought, you know? So.
00:32:42
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It serves you, doesn't it? I know. One of my favorite things to do is, I mean, I know the path well, but I will walk with my eyes pretty much closed. I mean, it's a sidewalk. It's a sidewalk I've walked many times. So like, I mean, I'm not talking like totally tuned out, but I'm just kind of like going in and out, you know? And I mean, I guess you could call it meditation, walking meditation, but I just...
00:33:06
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It just is so peaceful and I can feel the rhythm of my body moving and I'm like the sun on my face and it's just such it elevates me and clears the slate and I just love it. So I'm with you. I'm a big Walker.
00:33:24
Speaker
Yeah, no more hardcore. Like I think back, we share in common a past of transitioning out of your quote unquote corporate kind of job into, I was a yoga teacher, you know, meditation and things like that. And, you know, and I think back to some of those, even those yoga practices that were so intense and it's so intense, I was like,
00:33:48
Speaker
I don't know, I could never keep up. And so then I always felt like, what, a lesser than or like, you know, I can't go through the hardcore. I don't even know, like at this point, but those kinds of, you know, more sexy butt yoga practices that were a thing, you know, for a while, right. Where it was like, people getting like, you know, in the yoga room and I'm like, okay, this isn't to your point about adrenals, like, hello, like you're going, you know, out.
00:34:16
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to get a quote unquote health practice and then, you know, you're, you know, what are you really getting out of that? How is that really helping you to feel better? So these are just things that I worked through and kind of, you know, you come to the other side and you're like, yeah, no, that's naturally not it anymore.
Corporate to Holistic Transition
00:34:34
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Probably maybe ever, I don't think at this point. It's a very jolting realization when you go, whoa, wait, wait.
00:34:42
Speaker
You know, it's really, and it's so interesting because there's a lot of women following my work right now and I can see they're paying attention and they're following and they're like, I get what you're saying. I feel it in my heart, but I, I'm not kind of there yet. Right? Like I'm not, and that's, and that's okay. Um, you know, for people who love, you know,
00:35:03
Speaker
running 10Ks and power yoga. I'm not trying to take them away from that. And perhaps some people who do have more of the athlete archetype within them, right? Maybe that is aligned for them. So I'm not trying to take away from that. My intention is to really
00:35:20
Speaker
help presence this shift for people more into the balanced feminine and masculine. It's just like people did for me. There were women who spoke about this a few years before I went through this sort of transition and like, thank God, thank God they shared. Otherwise, I would be in the dark freaking out thinking I was having a mental breakdown when really it's a return. I mean, it's a returning process. Yeah, it does feel very validating when you can find someone that
00:35:48
Speaker
resonates with how you have that, like you said, that remembering, like you have this remembering of like, wait a minute, like, and for me, I don't, I assume you're probably, and I think you even commented on my podcast about being highly sensitive and, you know, very empathic and open. And I get very confused. I think like, oh, that's for me. Like I see my, you know, friend doing it and they have such a good time. Like I need to do that. And then I get in it and I'm like,
00:36:14
Speaker
This is not good for my nervous system. I'm a mess in here. And then, you know, it can kind of lead to that cycle of beating myself up or thinking like, why can't I keep up?
Internal Guidance vs. External Validation
00:36:24
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And one thing I would love for you to speak to in terms of just your own maybe experience and transition with because you are you are such a natural leader. I'm like, oh, I love this. Like I love listening to you talk in terms of your own path with
00:36:40
Speaker
personal development and leadership and being an entrepreneur in the world, how has that pivoted for you? I'm gathering it's pivoted a lot over the past couple of years. What was kind of the tipping point for you where you kind of maybe adapted a different way or began to just, or was it a tipping point or just wasn't more gradual for you? Yeah, oh boy.
00:37:11
Speaker
Um, I don't even know where to start. It's like, I actually can't read personal development books anymore, or at least not right now. Again, as I have, I mean, I think, okay, when, when somebody first starts on this inward path, I think it's very normal and very healthy to
00:37:37
Speaker
read the books and even to have sort of a teacher or a guide. I used to go to yoga retreats where there was sort of like the head guru kind of thing. And now I'm it. And it's not that I don't look externally ever, but what starts to happen, I think, is you
00:38:04
Speaker
As you venture deeper inside your body and as you truly alchemize so much garbage, ancestral crap that's sitting there, density. And this is what St. Teresa of Avila talks about in her book, entering the castle, you start to become the guru. That's the spiritual path. You are it. You are it. And what starts to happen is
00:38:32
Speaker
Everything externally just becomes either a synchronicity that shows you you're, keep going, you're on the right path, keep going, keep going, keep going. Or think like crazy things happen externally to continue to shake you up to learn your life lessons so that you can continue to deepen into your true Dharmic path. So the external is you're not looking externally for a teacher, for a safety net, for like you're good, you're rooted.
00:39:02
Speaker
Which is a deep connection to Mother Earth, Sky Father, like if you want to merge the feminine and masculine, whatever people want to say, whatever words resonate, whether it's God, higher self, right? So that's how I would define the masculine, the holy masculine, and then the holy feminine is the earth below our feet, our connection to nature, the goddess.
00:39:23
Speaker
feminine mystics and teachers that have gone before us. It's two separate things. And so when you're very rooted in that, it's like this very clean, like, sword almost like going through you that cuts through the shit and you don't need the external stuff. Like you become it. Does that make sense? It does. And you only rely on external things for signs and symbols and
00:39:52
Speaker
And it doesn't, it doesn't mean that you're, I don't say this from an ego place, like you've arrived or anything like that. You, you actually, you may actually encounter some of the deepest challenges of your life at this point, because you're ready to freaking handle it. Yeah.
00:40:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I feel you. And that whole notion of, because I feel like I resonate with the word being a seeker, you know, I'm always curious. I want to learn. I'm like into, I'm just eternally kind of curious, right? So sometimes I found that that can
00:40:25
Speaker
go from, it can get a little murky when it goes from looking outside yourself for the way or the answer or the next thing as opposed to just like you said, I love that you just said about a synchronicity, taking the signs, taking the synchronicity
00:40:44
Speaker
you know, maybe a little inspiration, but keeping it really clean. That is, that feels so good to me. I feel that. I feel that. And the inspiration, any external inspiration really just serves to continue to gently nudge you forward. It will help clarify your work. It will help you become better at your craft, at your gift. You might pick up on a,
00:41:10
Speaker
certain sentence someone says in a podcast or a certain book and you're like, okay, I don't want to read that book because I need to fix myself. I inherently know I'm not broken. I'm whole. I am light. I am love. But there's something in that book that's actually going to help clarify the next stage of my life or it's going to help deepen me into my life's work. Do you see the difference? Like there's just a totally different thing that's happening. Absolutely. Yeah. Did you have that?
00:41:41
Speaker
Did you land on this kind of like abruptly? Like was there a very distinct shift for you in your timeline? Or did you feel like you've just been on this path? Like, you know what I mean? Like were you heavy and like the personal development that like, yeah, me too. Yeah. Okay. So this is really, I think important. Eventually I think something happens.
00:42:10
Speaker
where you start to see the beauty of humanity, but also just how human we all are. I know we've seen this.
00:42:25
Speaker
in 2020 and beyond where with so many people who were on pedestals have now fallen because we're all human. We're all human. Even though no, we're not broken, but we have things we're here to work through. We have lessons we're here to learn.
Speaking Truth & Personal Growth
00:42:42
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When you start to see that, you stop searching for power outside of yourself and you decide that you're gonna fully trust yourself
00:42:56
Speaker
shadow and light as well because you're not perfect either. But typically, so what happened along my path is I was building a business and doing my thing, building my business, building my business.
00:43:09
Speaker
I feel like I had this deep initiatory experience where I was guided to speak up about certain things or I was guided to kind of go left when people were going right. And I started to see the humanness in the whole thing and the messiness in the whole thing. And I started to see even like danger signs, right? Like, uh-oh, this is not...
00:43:34
Speaker
going well. And I heard my soul say, Geraldine, speak up, do this. But every time I would speak up, I was vilified or shamed for it. And so I just started to hide. I was like, oh, you know what? Then I'll do my thing, but I'll just kind of do it back here and maybe hope nobody really notices. And then the whole thing kind of fell apart.
00:43:59
Speaker
The whole thing I was a part of fell apart. And that was when I went, I'm done. Like I see, I have compassion. I'm not here to attack, judge, whatever. Who am I to do that? But I am just going to shine the light inward and I'm not going to, I'm not going to hide anymore. I'm not, I'm just going to fly my freak flag. I'm going to be who I am. I'm not going to be in any.
00:44:27
Speaker
we kind of talked about this before you pushed play, I'm gonna extract myself from any codependency, any wounded behavior, any like, especially when someone's aware of it and they're not changing it. That's right, right? That's when I was like, nope, I'm gonna extract, extract, extract, extract, and I'm going to have trust in faith in myself. Like you become tired and exhausted of,
00:44:55
Speaker
I'm not having that trust and faith. And so that was when everything changed and that was when I stopped seeking external validation. That was when I decided to fly my freak flag and even come out of the closet and say like, I'm in the priestess lineage and I'm pretty witchy and I love this and I love that.
00:45:13
Speaker
I think what it has ultimately brought, and I see this in women who have gone through this transition, is peace. It's very different than the accomplishments and the accolades and the masculine promises, like the wounded masculine promises. It ultimately brings peace where you have accepted all of yourself
00:45:34
Speaker
And again, you just stop looking so much out there and playing some of these games that happen out there. Yeah. Yeah. But something has to happen. Like something happens or some people get sick, right? Some people are in a scenario where they're not speaking their truth or they're not leaving a wounded thing or whatever. And they like, something has to happen. For me, it was like a business falling apart. Yeah.
Healing & Growth in Network Marketing
00:45:58
Speaker
I was like, whoa, wait a second.
00:46:00
Speaker
Yeah, and that height relate to the specific example quite a bit in that I felt like I can see now, given some time has passed, I can see the wisdom of how the experience was and what it brought forth in me, what it called forth in me that I needed to look at.
00:46:23
Speaker
And I think that if it's okay to say this is a network marketing model, you're speaking too. And that I think that there's some, I've done a lot of thinking and journaling and downloading on this over the years. And I think that there's this thing that happens that is really actually for our benefit. When we come into those types of models, it really shines a bright light.
00:46:49
Speaker
our wounds are in the things that we can really start to look at for some of us. And we do, and we come out with this whole, it can be an intense initiation. It can be a very intense initiation through that. And you come out the other side and you kind of have this different perspective and you have a different perspective.
00:47:10
Speaker
I don't know if it's, it's not necessarily like the value that you just kind of have a different like, yeah, no, I actually don't need the things I thought I needed. It's really not about that.
00:47:22
Speaker
And then you get kind of this, I feel like this very intense magnifying glass on some of the things that can go sideways when people are leading with ego or things like that. And that can happen in any way.
00:47:42
Speaker
human business structure paradigm thing, right? But I just think it's actually very much front and center that you can call it out more in a network marketing business model.
00:47:55
Speaker
You can see that kind of almost real time happening. So thank you for speaking to that. I feel like that is a direction that I have kind of been nudged to talk about more because there can be a lot of, yeah, a lot of. There are a lot of women that are healing from their experience in network marketing and you should talk about it, right?
00:48:22
Speaker
Yeah, and then from a place of compassion for everyone, you know,
00:48:27
Speaker
because we're all on this freaking wild ride. But there is a dark side for sure to it. And there's a lot of beauty to it as well. So it's tricky, but I think talking about it for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I see that being more and more personally relevant and just relevant and needed. And yeah. And I appreciate what you're saying because it isn't, I mean,
00:48:56
Speaker
It's like such an immature thing to think like something's all bad, you know, like all bad, you know, it's like we all have that sort of, you know, tendency to go into those polarized places. But it's like there's so much.
00:49:06
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I have such a, wow, that really expanded my heart in so many ways and really taught me some things and that experience is, it can be really profound and deep. So thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing your experience and moving through that.
Starting a Women's Temple & Patience in Manifestation
00:49:24
Speaker
And now that you are, I mean, this is fairly new that you're kind of, yeah, just feeling into a different
00:49:36
Speaker
model for yourself in terms of how you are working out in the world or what you're creating. I think I like to say more than working, right? Like creating in the world. Like what is, if you could live in your little crystal hall, like what do you feel like you're leaning into coming next or what can people maybe get excited about that you're going to bring through? Is there anything there, like any pings coming through?
00:50:02
Speaker
Yeah, I really feel the pull to start my own woman's temple this year. I'm just waiting for the right timing. And I wanted to have a different, I wanted to have a price point model that can meet everybody with where they're at because
00:50:32
Speaker
This is something I have had to really unlearn as well is just how we charge for things and price points. So.
00:50:42
Speaker
I'm working all that out right now, but I want there to be a different price rate model for everything that I offer actually moving forward, where if you're fully resourced, you can pay the full price, it will look like this to do a one-on-one session with me or a journey with me, shamanic journey with me. If you could use extra support, it would look like this. And if you could really use extra support, it would look like that. So probably later this year, I'll launch
00:51:09
Speaker
my woman's temple and beyond that, like looking into my crystal ball, it's really just about my kids right now. It's about my kids and our family. My husband is getting a business off the ground and I feel like I'm part strategist for that, which is really fun.
00:51:25
Speaker
So we'll have to, we'll have to see. I feel like there's so, and this is part of like leaning into the feminine. It's so wild because things don't manifest as quickly. I find when you are more in the feminine. And so it actually requires more patience. But what I have felt is that when it does come to fruition, the fulfillment and the peace and the beauty is there, which is when we're in the masculine, we're like constantly chasing, right? So, you know,
00:51:54
Speaker
Renee, I'm just going slow. I'm just like, I'm going slow and I'm really trusting. And, um, yeah, we just moved into a new house and there's this whole space, like this loft above the garage with these huge, it's unfinished with these huge windows. And you look out at night and the sun is setting and I'm like, Oh my God, this is going to be a woman's temple space one day. And it might take some years, but yeah, it's, uh, I'm just trusting the timeline.
00:52:20
Speaker
Yeah, and I appreciate that. I've worked through many layers of coming back to, and we didn't even get into talking about Dharma and things like that, but I have gone through my own journey with returning back to being the nurturer in my home and finding peace within that and healing within that.
00:52:48
Speaker
I just want to say that I acknowledge you for having your little kids now to have that knowing, because it's such a quick transition. It's such a quick heart. And I feel like that's one thing I don't want to say. I don't feel like it's a regret necessarily, but I was so preoccupied with, again, chasing things and thinking I needed to acquire and
00:53:16
Speaker
I don't know if you're into astrology, but I'm a Norse node Libra, like fourth house, which is all about home and balance and nourishing and all these things. But that south node in Aries kept me busy and that's kind of my default.
00:53:36
Speaker
I was like hardcore until I was like, wait a minute, actually, if I lean into this and like you said, it's more of a slow, patient. There's so much peace and fulfillment in those moments of not rushing and not trying to get to some imaginary destination that you think is it. It's like there's so much more fulfillment in those creative spaces to go slow.
00:54:05
Speaker
it's where it's at. And to have your little kids along for the ride with a mom that is in tune to that, it makes me feel so just inspired. Thank you for saying that.
Redefining Success & Embracing Peace
00:54:20
Speaker
And even just sharing your experience because I think lots of young moms tune into my podcast or when I'm on other people's podcasts. So I'm sure they'll listen to this and
00:54:32
Speaker
It's just powerful to hear. It comes with its unique challenges, right? It does. If we choose to slow down, then your brain starts to fire. Like, how are you going to pay the bills? Right. It's tough. It's really tough navigating these times of having that internal, you know, six cents go off, but then having to like...
00:54:53
Speaker
Unscrew your brain and your thoughts around all of these other things and how is it going to work out? And I just I just keep there's so much to unpack and there's so much that women you know deserve and they deserve to be heard and they deserve support and there's so much we could talk about but
00:55:08
Speaker
I guess the fast track word I would leverage is just we do what we can and we have to trust and hold steady. That's right. That's the word that I was seeing. You were saying that was trust and that is trusting in that you are held and you are going to be, yeah, because it's not easy. It's not easy. That was I think really, really hard and challenging for me to how intense
00:55:38
Speaker
something that were constantly needing energy from me. I would rather use my brain to strategically go solve some sort of business problem or something. That felt so much easier for me, but then now I'm like, my gosh. It does sometimes, right?
00:55:57
Speaker
So thank you for sharing your heart today. Thank you for sharing what you offer. I love and I mean just the natural essence of your leadership is something I can get behind all day long. I appreciate you and what you are putting into the world and sharing and just really grateful. Thank you. Thank you for being here.
00:56:17
Speaker
Thank you for having me. You're going to come on my podcast soon. I would love to. I would love to. Yes. Yes. We'll continue the conversation. Yeah, as well as continue the conversation. I think that just one last thing I would say is what I love about the vision for your women's temple and shared space is that
00:56:38
Speaker
how we navigate all this makes it so much easier if we have the connection in the community and we can look at each other and see. And the accessibility. Yes. Because to be accessible to everybody, all different financial capacities, all different, you know what I mean? It's just, we need each other. It's time, yeah. It's definitely time for that.
Podcast Closing & Call to Action
00:57:00
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Thank you for being here today.
00:57:03
Speaker
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