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Healing and Transforming Together: The Energy of In-Person Spiritual Gatherings with The Blonde Priestess
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In this episode of Shine On You, hosts Renee Novello and Christina Lanae, The Blonde Priestess, explore the power of in-person spiritual events, the healing nature of love, and the importance of understanding oneself and others in relationships. They share personal stories of vulnerability, transformation, and the impact of genuine connections. Tune in for an insightful discussion on modern spirituality and personal growth.
They discuss the transformative power of in-person spiritual events, the healing nature of love, and navigating personal growth. This episode dives into the significance of genuine connections and understanding oneself and others in relationships.
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Introduction to Shine on You podcast
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Welcome beautiful souls to Shine on You, the podcast that dives deep into the realms of modern spirituality, the metaphysical, and the mystical. I'm your guide on this journey, Renee Novello. This is not just a podcast, it's a sanctuary for the open-minded, the curious, and those called to topics that may be, at times, a little out there.
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Through grounded, heart-centered conversations, we are here to support your next breakthrough into higher alignment and help illuminate the path, highlighting the threads of wisdom that connect us all. We are a community of kindred spirits, a space for belonging, connection, and shared wisdom.
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This is Shine On You, a podcast where the coastal breezes of Wilmington, North Carolina meet cosmic mysteries. Jump in and join us for conversations that will feel like sunshine for your soul. To follow me along on this journey, head over to my website at renee novello.com or on Instagram at vibe with intuition. Now let's dive into the interview.
Meeting Christina: Gratitude and New Year Reflections
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Hi, Christina. Hello. Look at us. I know. I'm so happy you're here with me today. Babe, honor. My resplendent friend, the luminary that you are. I'm so, so grateful that you're here today and that we're doing this in person. It's such a different feeling. It really is. It feels like it should have been this way all along.
00:01:45
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You know, we've all been behind screens and you know, I think this opportunity to be in the same space with you is, I mean, I don't know. I could cry. I could like have an outburst. I don't know. We'll find out. You really could being in my energy. Probably could amplify anything. Yes. It's so true. So this is an exciting new year, new fresh start, new chapter. And I feel like,
00:02:12
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you know, when we are at the beginning of a year, it's like that fresh energy and excitement is coming through. But before we look ahead too far, I would love to hear from you, like what, I mean, anything, how was your holiday? Like where are you at right now?
00:02:28
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It's interesting that we are doing that. I mean, this is the first thing I'm kind of doing for the new year. And so it's cool to just begin with in this way. But I think what's interesting is for a lot of us, this doesn't really feel like the new year. And there's multiple reasons, but I feel if we even just look as simply at nature, I mean, we're in the dead of winter.
00:02:54
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And everything here still in Wilmington is dying, actually. We're kind of in our fall, you know what I mean? And so it's like, OK, gear up for your new year. And I think if we're really honest with ourselves, it doesn't really feel like a new year. It's just like, OK, well, we'll just get behind that message because collectively there is energy there, which I do want to honor that.
00:03:15
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There is a collective message and you can tap into that fresh start energy. But even pagan traditions, they don't begin until February. Chinese New Year doesn't begin until later on. And then yes, springtime is much more around airy season, which is very end of March.
00:03:34
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So for me, it's always like a false start in January. I'm like, okay, let's be gentle. Let's be loose. Let's just like generally start to look at what we want to begin. And then I don't put a ton of pressure on myself. So I'm just being really tender with myself right now that I need to be nourished as a person who's been working towards a lot of things. And I
00:03:56
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I got them last year. And now there's more learning with those things. So I'm just trying to like honor the celebration. You got the things. More work is presented itself, but just nourish in the winter, you know, slow down. I love that. And it feels right in a lot of ways because there is a sort of looming, you know, keep up, keep up, keep up, pressure, pressure, pressure.
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And to your point, it's a very yin and introspective. And if we follow that lead, I think it serves us more. I do think it's like, yeah, like you said, I like the way you put it. It's like you can start to get inspiration flowing and kind of feeling into it. You do get kind of a little bit of a boost, but yeah.
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Yeah, it's a lot to ask, right? We just went through this marathon of holidays and you yourself have been through such profound transformation. Oh, man. Yeah. I'm sure for you, it felt like you were in it for a while, but it's like now a different season. It is. Yeah. Yeah.
The Power of Numerology: Year Eight Insights
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I like that you said that
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Tap into what you're feeling collectively, but also make it you, make it unique. A lot of what I teach and a lot of what I guide people to do is to come home to the self.
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So there are these, you know, it's like when we look at the weather, you're going to prepare if there's rain. But at the same time, like you yourself, you may want to go dance in the rain that day. Like you may want to get wet that day or you may want to stay dry. And you know, you just have to listen to yourself and what feels good for you and then navigate the weather as well.
00:05:36
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And then this new Leaf 2024 brings a new number with it, a new tarot card that represents it. So it's an eight year, correct? Yep. Eight year. And I didn't know that until recently when people started sharing that, but I was like, that tracks. I feel like there's a lot of energy
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in action, right? Eight is a very, very action. Yeah, powerful. You know, a good way to remember it, like shorthand is eight, eights are great. Eights are great. And they are great. And because we work in nine year cycles with numerology, the eight is coming to the end. And it's really a year where you get your goodies, like you get your gifts, and hopefully you're reaping a harvest. And that's why each number is so important, because if you've
00:06:27
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synced up kind of correctly with them, then you've been working your little, your butt off. So the eight year is kind of a time where you reap your harvest. You really see things manifest and some big changes are possible. And so yeah, eights are great. Eights are also called the gate. So it's kind of this gateway of
00:06:49
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Well, kind of like what I feel like what I was just saying in hindsight of just I've gotten the things I wanted and now they're leading to a whole nother ask of me. Yeah. So now I have a whole nother version of me that needs to emerge. An initiation of sorts. That's it. I do feel that eight energy. My husband's life path number is an eight and he is an eight through and through. And it's so funny when you start to understand these aspects of yourself and your people. Yeah.
00:07:19
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You're like, no wonder. It makes so much sense. Yes. Yes. Oh my goodness. Whether it's their numerology or their human design or where they're at. Oh my god. It's so illuminating. I know you and I have bonded and become close. We do.
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friends and we all we just you know geek out on just kind of understanding those deeper yes layers and your ecosystem It's so important. Who are you working with who are you running across? Who are you married to like? I know you know, but like do you know you know my parents were married for 20 years and before my mom knew how to really actually involve my dad and things and she tells the story all the time, but it's like I
00:08:02
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He's the type that needs to be invited. He's a projector. He will watch her clean that whole damn house top to bottom, run in circles around him and just wait to be included. And it would frustrate the life out of her because she's the type that sees something that needs to be done and she does it. Like a generator responds to it. And she's like, he never helps. I said, does, do you give him a chance? Do you invite him? Well, why should I have to say it? I'm like, cause you want help. That's why you say it.
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And it's transformed their marriage in that really small, small way. So I know we're both so passionate about. These are all good things to know for sure. Yes, I hear you. Yes, and part of being in person and recording this with you, I feel like it's just such a deeper level of intimacy. And you and I obviously are friends, and we hang out. But to be here with you and to feel your energy
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While we're doing this, it's like I've got so much coming in. There's so much information happening right now, but I mean, in terms of where you're at, are you feeling tender today? Are you feeling like, let's go, like your cancer moon? How's your cancer moon? I know, my little cancer moon. Where you at with your emotional weight? Tell us how that's going.
00:09:21
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I am such a sensitive creature. I am a Gemini, but there's so much water in my chart and yeah, very emotional. But today is honestly one of the first days. I had a really lovely massage today and she accidentally dumped extra peppermint on me.
00:09:41
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who were tingling. Yeah, I was tingling, loving it. I was like, this is an experience. You should charge extra for this. I'm immersed in the peppermint forest right now. And afterwards, she's like, I'm so sorry. I totally spilled it. And I was like, I think I needed that. So I'm feeling that really helped move some stuff in my body. I'm a very big self-care, fill up my own cup person because I've had to learn to be that way.
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So I gave myself a lot of that today. I'm really just so excited to be starting this new year, new feeling with you.
Humor and Humanity: A Massage Mishap Story
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Well, it's nice that you got relaxed and centered and had the opportunity to do that.
00:10:23
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I had a massage last week, actually, and I wanted to ice break this with a little borderline embarrassing. Didn't go full blown embarrassing, but I figure this is like when I listen to a podcast and someone shares something kind of almost like embarrassing, you feel this immediate connection. So I had this experience and we're friends. We're all friends, right? I had this experience and I really want to know.
00:10:47
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what would you do because in this moment it really tested me on many levels because I felt as I'm laying on the table and we're coming out of the holidays and I'm like bloated and eating things I've like been you know off the normal routine of it and starting to feel it also the time of the month where things are building hormonally and I'm just like laying there
00:11:10
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15, 20 minutes in and I'm getting into that space where you're starting to like really drop in. And then all of a sudden I'm like, I think I have to go to the bathroom. And I fought with myself, Christina, for a really long time about this because listen, it's not just, you know how it is when you're in a massage. It's not just, I'll be right back. It's like, you gotta get dressed. And I love my massage therapist. I go to,
00:11:37
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Everything peaceful? Yes. Almatrous? Yes. Your mom actually I think referred me to her. I look, shout out Almatrous, shout out everything peaceful. Everything peaceful. But it's like a house in there. So the bathroom is kind of front and center. So I was having almost like these like, you know, like getting a little sweaty. I'm like, okay, do I
00:11:57
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So I ask the people, I ask you, what do you do? Do you sit there? And do you write it out? And do you hope that it passes and you can enjoy and relax? Or do you say, I have to get up and go to the bathroom for an undetermined amount of time? Oh my gosh. I had a hard time. I literally had a hard time. I'll tell you what I did after you started. OK, that's what I'm like on a cliffhanger about. OK, well.
00:12:23
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I really want to know. Obviously it's a very unique experience for each individual. I think I'm a wader out kind of girl. I think I am because I think I would be like, listen.
00:12:36
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What color are the sheets? Sorry, it's like red. No, no, no. It was literally, okay, listen. It was kind of getting to a point where I was concerned because I normally am like, I can roll with this. Like, I'm gonna, this is gonna pass. But this actually got to the point where I'm like, something either really embarrassing is gonna go down or I'm gonna have to interrupt. And what did you do?
00:13:01
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I waited in pain. Oh, worst massage ever. No, but I just thought, this is going to pass. I don't have some sort of severe, thankfully. I don't have a severe chronic situation where I would know, OK, this is it. This was a one-off.
00:13:19
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Christina I was laying there thinking what is this like something as a woman I'm conditioned to do with my husband do that like I have my mind was going places see that's interesting because I don't want to inconvenience her I don't want to embarrass myself that's it and how does this even go down like how do I say excuse me I need you to leave immediately and then continue I say ask no questions
00:13:44
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And she is the sweetest person ever. She would have totally understood. She would have totally got it. But I was having a moment. And then it got me thinking, of course, I came home and told this story to my husband. And he's like, so you got up and went, right? And I'm like, no. You're like, what? I waited. I waited it out. And eventually it passed. But it was kind of one of those situations where it really got me thinking. Yes. How we respond in these situations where we're like,
00:14:12
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you know, in a relaxing environment, but then you have to like call attention to yourself and ask for something you need. Which is so human. The most human thing. Yeah. So human. And it could have even been, I'm sure there's people like on the table and they just need to like go pee.
00:14:29
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Like, they just forgot. Like, it's not anything. No. Yeah. I think the environment did kind of have me concerned, though, because it's an intimate quarters situation. And I'm like, there's just, and I wasn't sure how things were going to play out. Bless your soul. You live this long, and now you're just experiencing new things. Anyway, I learned the hard way why they tell you to not eat for two hours before you go on a massage table, Christina.
00:14:54
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I learned the hard way and I thought that everyone else should weigh in on what they would do.
00:15:01
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Cause I'm just like suffering in silence. Oh, I'm curious to see what other people do. Cause I'm, I'm the shy girl too. I knew the shy girl. Yeah, I would. Yeah. Calling attention to myself like that, having to get, I'm like, anyway, so that was, that was my massage experience. I'm glad yours with the peppermint was better than this. I was like, wow. Mine was amazing. I was like, I, she actually should offer that as a service. Wow. So good. So good. So.
00:15:29
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You and I are, as I said, we're friends and we've bonded more and we bonded together over a just an extraordinary unique outing.
Sisterhood and Transformation: Trip to Gaia
00:15:42
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We took a trip. We took a trip. People should do this with people they love. With people. More often. I'm going to set it up. I'm going to tell you my experience. And then I want to hear yours because this was a profound moment or experience for me because
00:15:58
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I felt so invited in by you. I knew you had been taking these trips to Gaia, which is, and let me just tell people what Gaia is in case they don't know, but Gaia is a conscious television network, kind of the opposite of mainstream TV. They talk about unexplained phenomenon,
00:16:21
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aliens, ancient wisdom, spirituality, things like that. And they do live events at their campus in a beautiful Boulder, Colorado, just idyllic situation there. And I knew you had been going and I was kind of watching you go to these events and thinking to myself or my intuition was thinking to me, I need to be there at some point. Didn't know how this was going to go down.
00:16:49
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kind of just, I haven't been traveling that much in general. The day that we decided that you invited me really, it was really an interesting thing because it was like I had this vision. Clearer's Day, while I'm in the kitchen, Christina's going to Gaia, you need to go. And it was like I knew it was coming. I just felt it. And I was like, it was a full body yes. Wow.
00:17:19
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And then, yeah, and then you messaged me and you're like. Before the invitation came, you knew. Yeah, it was definitely a moment of intuition or, you know. Download. Yeah, download. And so.
00:17:32
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I know you. I know your mom. I love your, obviously everyone here locally knows Deb and loves Deb. But, and I know Penelope, but I didn't know Stacy that was invited as well. So it was a girls trip. It was powerhouse girls, women. I mean, I'm very, that's beautiful.
00:17:51
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by the way. It was awesome. That's really cool. The way this came together, that I even got invited, I think. I felt so, like, concluded. I'm not even surprised you already tapped in, tuned in, because we have this really cool relationship where I'm like, do you want to? And you're like, yeah, I'm already doing it. And I'm like, OK, cool. Just making sure I was reading your mind right. But yeah, it's part of my design. It's a part of who I am. I'm always very selective with who I'm around.
00:18:18
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And I think it's because there's certain souls that come in and they know they have a lot to do. And there's certain people that will hear this and they'll understand what I mean. And it's almost like they have a remembering of the things that are a little bit like time wasters. And I'm not saying I'm perfect and I haven't wasted my time on things.
00:18:36
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because nothing's a time waste, you always learn. But I've really wanted to position myself as best as I can for progress and expansion and growth. To get down my path quicker because I feel this knowing that there are souls that need me.
00:18:52
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And I feel like there's a lot for me to learn and remember almost, and then a lot for me to share. So Gaia has, I have a dear friend that works at Gaia, and I had put out, this is a really funny story, I had put out something on Instagram and was like a little late to this Gaia game, but is anyone watching something on here that they would, like that I should check out? Because I don't watch much TV at all, but Gaia is not TV.
00:19:19
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learning. It's like the videos they used to play you, you know, when you're in school, but like actually good and high quality. Yeah, expansive learning. And so my friend Shelby actually reached out to me and was like, yeah, I know what you need to watch. You need to be here live for this next event. That's how your first event started. So it was a friend that you knew that were there.
00:19:41
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And she actually was a client and hadn't, she was working as a nutritional coach and wasn't even at Gaia yet. So we had made the connection years before. It's just so many seeds planted. And you know, when you look back in hindsight, you're like, Oh my God, who would have known that relationship, you know, would have led to a friendship, would have led to connections. And then I get to share it with you guys. That was the most rewarding Gaia trip I took, not because of the speakers we saw, but it was because of y'all's company.
00:20:11
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And to be experiencing that information and to know that y'all use Stacey Penelope and my mom all touch the community in your own unique ways. And so it was so rewarding for me to be there. I know how I was going to share it with the people I touch, but to know that y'all were going to be sharing it too, like here in this town, again, in all different areas, you know,
00:20:36
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was like so fulfilling for me. Like an amplification. Yeah. Not to mention all the fun we had, but yeah. We had so much fun. So I came back from this trip. And not only was the information that was shared, so this was actually just to give a little context. This was a channeling conference. So we were listening to very well-known psychic
00:21:00
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Um, channelers for two days that convey psychic messages and they're in a channeled altered state. It's really fascinating. I'm such a curious one. I love to watch this in action and.
00:21:15
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just to experience it and the voice change, the personality change. Yeah. When really interesting thing to experience. Yeah. Guy itself, because my little event planners background got very lit up by how, how just like professional and everything that they put out was very, it was a very, um, streamlined and high quality experience for the attendee. Yeah.
00:21:41
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The team was all on the same frequency. The moment you step in, even the bodyguards that are searching the metal detectors are like, hey, I'll hold your chai while you walk through the detector. And I'm like, why? Thank you. They're like, you look great. It does feel like an alternate universe there.
00:21:59
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kindness and compassion and people from all over the world were there oh yeah all over the world and you walk in and you're greeted by hum I think that amethyst is like two tons yeah it's like a two-ton yeah that's like shaped like a clam clam shell
00:22:17
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They call it a clamethyst. A clamethyst? I knew you'd like that. I did. I only learned that the third time I was there, and I was like, a clamethyst. It's beautiful. Yeah. What a welcome. So you walk in, and you're like, this is going to be a different kind of experience. Something is happening. Something is happening here. Yes. Yep. So we were there.
00:22:39
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What? I mean, a long weekend, not even. Yep. We got to see beautiful Colorado sites. We had incredible food. And we laughed so hard. So hard. I was so highly entertained. You were. I mean, honestly, if people make me laugh, I'm like, I'm your best friend forever now, because it's just like, I love it. Yes. I love to laugh. Yeah. You guys were so funny and entertaining. I don't think we stopped laughing. Yeah. I don't think we did. Yeah.
00:23:08
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But I feel like so we had that, you know, the layered experience of having a really impactful, yeah, like transformative content of being delivered of wisdom. And then we had this intimacy of friendship and belonging and yeah.
00:23:26
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I think something actually like a major shift happened and it really when I came home I got to reflecting about it about being in you know community with women who are
00:23:42
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It's almost like, you know, we all kind of go through those phases in life with women where it's hard, right? Oh, yeah. And challenging or you feel like there's a competition or we don't quite maybe know ourselves yet, right? Yes. So it's a little unclear how you relate to each other or what, who's got what kind of agenda, right? We've all been through that. It's just kind of like the right of growing up as a girl, but
00:24:06
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I felt like this was one of the very first times I felt so uplifted and cared for. And everybody was very much in their own energy, very much in a emotionally mature place. I agree. It was something that I think changed me forever. And I think that that is part of why, to bring this full circle, we're here in person and why
00:24:36
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I want to do more in person here locally. Yep. It's to invite people into that feeling. What, I mean, when you, what was like, I mean, I know there was a lot, but what was your takeaway from that experience that, you know, when you got home, like what was your felt experience of it? I mean, you highlighted so many great points. And I think for anyone that's listening that doesn't have that
00:25:03
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community, don't give up hope, like, like keep being selective, keep aligning with yourself. Because we could only come together in that magical bubble of love. And like you said, emotional maturity, because we all have done so much work on ourselves. I really believe that.
00:25:26
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So we could put away, I mean, I don't even feel I need to say this, but there was never a note of jealousy, of competition, of comparison, of, you know, these very low-level things we associate sometimes with friendships. Not even just between women, but just...
00:25:43
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people being people next to each other there was just none of that and I think it we we all need a pat on the back because we've just all done so much work to just be in alignment and then we had a certain openness and I think that's what was a big takeaway for me was I loved how we could all come from different backgrounds and different experiences and then just be we're watching
00:26:08
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these renowned speakers channel a Native American voice and soul and entity and, and then a Pleiadian soul coming through this woman, you know, and we were just all so open to it. There was not a moment that I felt, you know, Oh, I don't know if they're going to like it. Like, is this too out there? Was this weird to bring them to, are they uncomfortable? It was just like, take it or leave it. You might not connect with every speaker, but
00:26:36
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I felt there was an openness to each other. There was a trust.
00:26:40
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There was a feeling of like, we could be honest too. I mean, we had a really special, my highlight from the trip was our, we went to the Garden of the Gods, which if you're in Colorado, I don't care what part, go to the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs, Garden of the Gods, beautiful. And we had a little, we found within this park that is like heavily trafficked. We hunted around and found this beautiful little like, what would you call it? Like little cave. It was just this,
00:27:10
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perfect little grouping of trees with a clearing in the middle of the trees. Like it was meant for us. It was like, come in here. Like a hobbit hole. A hobbit hole. Yeah. And there was people definitely around the spot, walking around. Yeah.
00:27:29
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But we were in this like bubble and it had been really important to me to do some kind of, I had felt a big passage was coming from myself. And it was. And it was. And it did. And it did. With you women that I respect so deeply for different reasons on different levels was a moment where I could be so honest and so vulnerable and as a teacher and anyone else that feels like
00:27:56
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you know, there's a lot of people that look up to them. It's hard to let down some of those things sometimes and feel like you can trust someone and say, Hey, I'm really scared about this. Like, I don't know what I'm doing and what's about to happen. And you guys just brought me the most beautiful wisdom held space for me. And I felt, I felt so seen, so loved and just empowered, even though it was just like, I still had to go do the stuff myself.
00:28:25
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But that love that we created, that openness, that will forever be imprinted in my soul. And I, too, hope we can create that for other people. Yeah, me too. That was really special. Yeah, trusting us to even, at a pivotal point in your life, to be able to be a part of that and be a part of the realness. And what I totally acknowledge and love and appreciate about you is that you aren't
00:28:53
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one to pretend or gloss over or try to keep up some kind of illusion or air. You're very real about what's hard and what's beautiful and exciting and good too, but you also have that side to you which is so authentic and that you let people in.
00:29:12
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And a lot of people, you know, that's hard. That's a hard thing to do for all of us at certain points. And that moment in the, yeah, I mean, that was like, I don't know what happened. We were like in there for, I don't know how long, but it was a long time. And we came out and we're like, what day is it? Like you, it was like some kind of, there was no time or space. Yeah, it was like, we were just in this moment.
00:29:39
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sharing with each other. What was hard? It was a circle. It was what we used to do a long time ago. It's in our lineage. Our ancestors would tell stories, would tell their story, and then they would hold each other and
00:29:55
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you know, the Crohn's of the village, they would advise and the young people would listen. And there was so much tribal energy. And we have so much division now. And so that, yeah, that tribal circle. I want so many more of those. It's like such a natural part of us, too. It did. Yep. I mean, tell me what you think. But this past, I feel like I don't know if I said this to you, but I feel like I'm coming out of a funk.
00:30:23
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for the past four years of really kind of facing my own wounding around belonging and community and just, you know,
00:30:34
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Obviously we all go through different phases that are hard, but this was sort of like a self isolating and it was 2020 and I moved and you know, there was a lot of upheaval going on. But my reaction to that is to self isolate and go into a full hermit mode. I mean,
00:30:54
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It's like what I do and I'm good there, but am I really? Because when I am pulled out and I am reminded of what happens with being in a safe place with people who you can trust and you can find joy and celebration. You can also be vulnerable with
00:31:15
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Like I'm like returning full circle. I feel like we're at a cycle now where we're really getting back to that because we all have kind of been through that to some degree where we were separated, we were isolated. And what I love about this area, and you are such an ambassador of this area, Wellington, of you know,
00:31:34
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how bring people together in what you do all over town. I'm like, she is literally like the unofficial face, the mascot. Like, we're gonna have you be like, I do sometimes amaze myself. I was like, how was I at the river, at the beach, downtown and in Asheville? No, I'm kidding.
00:31:53
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No, but yeah, all over Wilmington in one day. Seriously. But this area, I feel like, is a special place. We've talked about this, I think, on the last episode you did of just how there's just this, like, people come here from many other places, although I know you are native to the area. But the feeling here is like,
00:32:15
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Hey, fresh start. Let's heal. Let's connect. Let's be creative and inspired. And I mean, we are nestled in between these two beautiful moving bodies of water that I mean, even speaking of Native Americans, like they really deeply believed in water being the most powerful element. It moves emotion. It moves energy. And here we are between a wild ocean. I mean, wild, warm and crazy and unpredictable. And then the river and
00:32:45
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And so it's just, there is, I always call it like a healing haven. You know, and we- I love that. Right?
00:32:53
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It feels like I've met so many people that come here to rehab from addictions. They come here to start a new life. They come here for the sea. Sometimes they come for a reason they say, but then they get, I think, what they actually need, which is usually healing, healing on some level. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's a unique place. And the sunshine doesn't help. And it makes people happier, I think, in general.
00:33:22
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you know, having, looking ahead in this area, tell me, because I don't know that I really know, what do you like envision for yourself in terms, I know you love your roots here, I don't think you're going anywhere, I hope you're not. Now's not the time if you're gonna break that to me, because I'm gonna cry. Okay, okay.
00:33:43
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Say love for later. No, I'm kidding. But what do you envision, what is your vision for this community and in your place in it? What do you see when you close your eyes and you think about that?
Vision for Community and Healing in Wilmington
00:33:56
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This has been something I'm really contemplating a lot lately because I was away in LA for six years following a whole different journey that ended up being the journey, right? That's how spirituality often works. You go one way and you end up finding the way.
00:34:17
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So 2020 is the year I came back as well and discovered that a town I thought I would never live in, because it was so incredibly boring, had life in it, actually. And my whole nervous system began to unravel. The seasons began to nourish me. In LA, you're in eternal summer. And it's go, go, go, create, create, create. And I was actually, believe it or not, as a manifesting generator, somehow in burnout. Once I got back here, I just spent a few months
00:34:46
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Or more I mean it made it might have been a whole year just wandering just kind of tasting the town and Literally experiencing what I just said the town brings this healing haven I mean my whole body was so high-strung the whole world was that too and LA has a lot of darkness is my understanding I can't imagine your brightness
00:35:12
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in the contrast to something that was ever there. I was constantly trying to, yeah. Actually, the last three months, we were within the pandemic and there was no one on the roads and I think there were laws to not be on the roads, so I hope I don't get arrested for this.
00:35:29
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It's a statute of limitations. We're like pass the time. I don't think they're coming for you. I think they have bigger problems. Definitely. Than me cruising around in my Prius going to Malibu. But I'd go to Malibu. I went every single day. It was an hour and a half drive. I didn't care. And that was the highest frequency place I could get to at that time. And actually I really, really enjoyed it. And I got to experience LA with no one on the roads.
00:35:54
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I'm so grateful for that. You probably felt like you were on another planet. I did. I did because all the buildings are still there. All the beauty was there. It was awesome. It was really cool to leave on that note, but the city did become haunting. So coming back here, I experienced that healing that now I get to see other people and I know exactly why they come here. They get to unravel and then a lot of people become entrepreneurs.
00:36:19
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You do have such a creative and entrepreneur minded collective. And people do it successfully. It's gorgeous. I love it. So many people I've had in cacao circles that I do around town, well, I'll bring a nugget back from Gaia, or I'll just share something that has been written in books. But it's just a matter of the right timing, the right person being there and hearing it coming through me.
00:36:45
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And they'll launch a business based on what came up in Circle, and they're successful. It just lights me up. So to answer your question now, I think much more gathering, much more circles. I do work with cacao as a plant medicine. It's a heart medicine. And it's a really beautiful unifier to bring people together and help them heal.
00:37:14
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and connect with their heart, which is I think what our next wave of evolution is going to be. Yes.
00:37:23
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you know, heart not head. And I would love to, this is something that scares me a little bit because I don't know yet how I'm gonna make it happen, which is great. I wanna do more retreats and I want to bring the people we know and the people that I don't know yet in on it. I want it to be a collaborative,
00:37:47
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It could be local, it could be a destination, but I want people to start to feel like they have spaces to really quantum leap and then have our regular circles, not regular, but routine circles that keep them on the path.
00:38:08
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Yeah, when I'm observing, because I am a big observer, I love to be in groups and to take in what's happening in the room. And the through line that I see when I'm at a cacao circle with you is you magnetize people to you. They don't even sometimes know why they're there.
00:38:33
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They're like, I don't know. I just thought it would be cool to come in. And you're like, oh, hey. And when we're talking, it's not necessarily even women in the same age group. I'm talking all over the board. Even men. Yes. And it's beautiful. And I think what you do so well is that you meet people where they're at. And you let them show up.
00:38:59
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and there's no pressure. They don't have to know the weird things we're talking about. Not that they're weird, but you know the esoteric things we're talking about. They just feel the warmth and they feel that heart-centered love through you, through the cacao, through the experience. And you can't tell me, even if they never come back or you ever cross paths again, that it wasn't something that they will take with them and that will give them something in their,
00:39:25
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on their path, on their way. And it's so subtle, but it's so powerful to see that. And you're reminding me of something I read a long time ago when I was working on healing a lot of addictions with my self-image.
00:39:42
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things with diet and body and these kind of things we've spoken about before. But I remember it was so simple. I read, you know, love is the greatest teacher. Love is your greatest healer. And that really stuck with me when, you know, you see someone and you want them to change and you see them not doing something that's in alignment with them because you see they're suffering. You love them. You just love them. And love equals acceptance. It's, you know, it's an aspect of it.
00:40:11
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And I think that's what I pray before, you know, every person walks into that room. I pray over each seat and I just ask that spirit gives them whatever they need. And of course, love is always a part of that. So that's really cool. I also have heard people reflect that they just feel really safe.
00:40:34
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Yeah. They just feel safe. It's a cozy environment. It's super cozy. The cave is beautiful too. We do a lot of circles in the salt cave. Yeah. I totally agree with that sentiment. And I think that when you have somebody come in off the, you know, that you don't know. Yeah. It's like.
00:40:50
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sometimes easier than the people that you are triggered by in your everyday life. You're thinking like, oh, I'm just gonna love, I'm just gonna love. Do you know what I'm learning lately? What? Through this season is love is also angry. Love is also fierce. Love is also boundaries. Love is also pain sometimes.
00:41:14
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All of like those are the next evolutions. I'm being shown of love where sometimes love says stop that you're hurting me That's not okay. Yeah, and That doesn't mean I don't love you. In fact. I love you so much that I'm not walking away from you. I'm telling you how to love me That's it you know is that's
00:41:36
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a lot harder. I get that. I get that. I think that is also something I think I've observed for myself and I've seen other people too, that are starting to not think of love as
00:41:57
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just being that one-sided, happy, quote unquote, high vibe feeling that it is a multifaceted experience to be in. And what a powerful mirror of showing you your stuff of how you're bringing that to the table. And all of that power really resides in what boundaries we set, how we approach the situation.
00:42:26
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Yeah, it's definitely a journey and I think it is interesting though that sometimes it's easier to love strangers. It's easier to love that person that comes into a cat circle than the person you share your life speaking from my own experience. Well, I was thinking your profile is very transpersonal, so you would say something kind of like that.
00:42:48
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But funny thing you're making me remember is we had a guy who was, I think he was a part of the Coast Guard or something. His ship was docked at our, I guess our port or at our beach or something. I have no idea where this guy came from.
00:43:06
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And I don't know if anyone really did beautiful soul. He had came into circle and I was like staging him before we let him into the room. Like we do everybody. And I said, you know, I've never met you. Who are you? You know, what's your name and this kind of thing. And he tells me, and he's like, I don't even know why I'm here right now. And I was like, that's really cool. You know, I've heard that before. That's really cool. Know that you're welcome.
00:43:29
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You know, it's going to be fun. And he's like, yeah, like I was literally just my boats here for a night only. I was walking down the street to get some cigarettes, something about this. Like, you know, he's totally on a different journey, you know, which is fine. It was awesome. And he said the cave caught his interest. He walked in. The person told him, oh, actually tonight we just had a spot open because usually there's a wait list.
00:43:53
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We just had a spot open for a cacao circle if you want to come and join. He's like, no idea what that is, but yes. And at the end of the ceremony, he said, I don't know exactly what has happened here, but I don't know what's happened to me, but I know that I was supposed to be here and I'm really grateful for everything that you shared. And just something about this, like,
00:44:15
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sailor, this like walk into the street to buy some cigarettes, you know, that just wandered into a cacao circle. I can't wait to, I don't know, maybe someday I'll hear about all the people he touches.
Future Plans: In-Person Recordings and Community Building
00:44:29
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I love that. I like picture it being like foggy outside. He like vaporizes into the street as he walks away smoking a cigarette with his heart all open. Maybe he wasn't even real. Maybe he wasn't.
00:44:42
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But that is the kind of magic that happens that is I wouldn't be surprised if he was like an illusion I mean what people are like I don't remember him Well, I know you and I have talked a little bit about doing something in the spring And let me just back up a little bit with the podcast coming to be in a studio I feel so grateful about this I about I don't know a year ago when I started to get back into podcasting You know most people were
00:45:11
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still zooming online. And that's what I did, and that's great, and I could do it at my convenience and have it be meaningful, but having it be something where we're in person just really was what I was feeling called to evolve into. And I was noticing the progression of other people you see doing podcasts, it's like everything is video, everything kind of have the studio feel to it. They want to feel like they're there.
00:45:40
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And so I felt so excited and grateful when I found producer Brittany, shout out producer Brittany, and this spot in Wilmington that I could do this in person with you. And look, it's beautiful. It's like we designed it. Yeah, a room in your house, easily. It does. Yeah. It does feel that way.
00:45:59
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So that was one thing that I felt so grateful that came into, came to be. And the other thing I was feeling is this call to return. I'm teaching a yoga workshop in person and just being, again, kind of coming out of that self isolation period and really feeling, you know, healed in a way that I probably have never had before. And, you know, we've talked about having an opportunity where people can come together and experience
00:46:27
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whether it's a podcast recording or talks or something that feels like bringing a little Gaia here. A little bit of that opportunity because obviously that's a big commitment to go away to something like that and the time away, the expense and all of that, although highly recommend.
00:46:47
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But I really felt this sense of the next phase and the next way to support people here is to have the opportunity for people to come together and actually be in the energy of each other because I think what we've all learned is that there really is no replacement. We can do these things that are okay, like Zoom and virtual. But when you are able to connect with somebody in person and experience learning,
00:47:17
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or an opportunity to self-connect through a yoga class or a sound bath or something like that. So when I brought that idea to you, and I love the fact your beautiful eyes lit up and you were like, yes. So we're feeling into that and putting that together. And I just wanted to share with you here that people can look forward to doing something here that will be
00:47:46
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for them to support them with their belonging in a group, belonging with people who are open hearted and here to help them with the next bit of inspiration they need on their own journey and their own transformation and to meet them where they're at, whether
00:48:05
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you know, whether they are brand new to some of the things we're talking about today. I know we're talking a little bit about our human design and we're talking a little bit about these more modern spirituality type topics like numerology, but really bringing that to people.
00:48:21
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How do you feel about that? I'm excited. This is kind of aligned with what I feel is the next evolution for me, too. So more connection, more people, more gathering. I love your word, belonging. I don't know if that's going to be your word for the year, but damn, it feels so good.
00:48:46
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I think we all are looking for that. And even that story we shared about our sisterhood and being at Gaia, like there might be people listening that are like, Oh my God, I don't know if I'll ever have that, you know, and how amazing would it feel if we could
00:49:02
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be a part or create an event where someone could potentially meet their next sister because they're there with shared interest in something, whether that's a sound bath or a breath work or a channel or a cacao or whatever it is that brings you in the same room as someone who's going to be your potential soulmate friend or soulmate or whatever it is. But I think it is through relationships that we grow and evolve. I'm learning that every day in a new way right now.
00:49:30
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And I'm being very humbled by how much quantum leaping can happen when you're in relationship versus when you're alone. And it's very easy in perspective to being with others and growing with others in relationship, relative to where when you're alone, you control what pace you learn at. When you're in a relationship, you don't know what you're learning for the day, necessarily.
00:49:59
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So there's, but on a positive note.
00:50:02
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When we come together, we create chemistry. In human design, we create amplification. We allow ourselves to become inspired, energized. We allow perspectives to come in, new ideas. It all depends on what your circuitry is. But even for us, there really is nothing like being in person than with each other, because you can tap into my life force energy, and I can tap into your beautiful mind that has all these abstract quantum ideas. And we get to create alchemy.
00:50:32
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I love what you said about quantum leaping because I think that's what I experienced in Colorado. That's a beautiful way to summarize that is I felt a quantum leap and it stayed with me and it actually propelled me into action. Oh, I think that that is sort of the issue with self isolating to your point is that you yourself.
00:50:52
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We all know there's no shortage of information, inspiration out there. You can go online and you can see everything everyone's doing and you can kind of think, oh, that's for me, or I'm going to try that. The difference is the action.
00:51:06
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The difference is the actual implementation. So if there's an environment, like an event, where people can kind of sample a little, they can say like, oh, I've never had a sound bath before. What does that feel like? And maybe they love it, and maybe it's not for them. And that's all beautiful. And you can meet people where they're at. I think that's really, yeah, maybe people are like, yeah, I don't know. I'm not ready for all that. You know, like human design. It's fine. It's all good. It's an opportunity, I think, through
00:51:35
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the experience that you bring and so many interesting people in this area have to offer. So much wisdom and different healing arts, different modalities, different gifts that when they are
00:51:52
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and when you can kind of come into a space and experience that in a little dose of experience. It's like, hey, maybe I'll come back for more. Maybe it's time for that.
00:52:05
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That's kind of what I was feeling. Yeah, I think we both are seekers and teachers and guides in our own way, you and I, and we choose to live a life where we gather all of these different people and modalities to help us learn ourselves and our ecosystem, aka our family, our partners, or whatever, our children.
00:52:26
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And hopefully, you know, find some answers, find some guidance, some guidelines, and help us navigate. And I think you and I are both very sample-y type people, where, yeah, one moment I'm talking about tarot card, the next we're talking about channeling. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? It's like multi-passionate. And I'm not a manifesting generator, which is kind of known for that at all.
00:52:51
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Although I've been around a lot. Maybe I'm just really conditioned. But I do love to see what else is going on out there like you do. But that's that openness I'm speaking about. So I think one beautiful intention, if I can add it into your pot for your event, is like just bring on the people that are open. Whoever is here and listening and watching and curious and open come.
00:53:17
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because there's something here for you. There's something, whether it's a medicine or a person. Yeah. And usually, yeah, sometimes I know I'm more of an introvert, like I've said, and I love to be in my own little cozy spaces. But when you do, you stretch yourself and you show up for something. I remember the first time I met you, I was like, I want to be her friend.
00:53:54
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But then just by that one day where I really probably at the end of the day wanted to stay in my pajamas and not come out of the house I did and that that little bit shifts the trajectory, you know, it's like I
00:54:07
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One degree can change your direct trajectory, right? I think Renee, like you, before that trip to Gaia that we've been talking about in such a romanticized way, right before you had that moment of like, you shared that with me. I always kind of get that way when I leave my house. This is what people I feel need to learn to push past.
00:54:32
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of like, what is the difference between fear and intuition? What is the difference between it's uncomfortable and it's expansive? They feel that it's the difference between anxiety and excitement. It's the same flutter in the gut, where you're like, oh, I don't want to leave the house. Or it's like, you're about to leave the house because you're about to meet somebody that is going to change your life. Or go on a trip that you will never forget. Absolutely. Yeah.
00:54:59
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it's really a shift in the story you're telling yourself because I have a lot of heaviness around, oh, I'm an introvert or I don't have sensitive or that kind of thing. Like that's my own story, right? Then just kind of, you gotta go for it a little bit. You gotta go out and you gotta go for it a little bit. Cause amazing things will happen. And I think really, I think that's how maybe we can land this today is just,
00:55:27
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Just to be open to possibilities in this new year of growth and really your heart's desire. I feel like whatever you really feel on your heart, if you don't get distracted from that and you really stay in alignment and action with that,
00:55:53
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a lot can change in a very, you know, I mean a year goes like so quickly. A lot can change. Yes. Yeah. Thank you for being here with me today. Oh my gosh. Can we do this tomorrow? I know. We can just keep on going if you want. I'm honored. Thank you for being here. And I do look forward to you coming back again. Yes. Thank you so much. Thank you for the work that you're doing for our collective, for our community, for women, for
00:56:23
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for me personally as well as a friend. I'm so grateful for you.