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Embracing Simplicity: Unlocking Inner Peace: Exploring Intuitive Witchcraft and Shadow Work
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We're thrilled to bring you a phenomenal new episode of the Shine On You podcast, where we venture into the transformative realms of modern spirituality, metaphysical topics, and mystical experiences. This episode serves as a beacon of wisdom and support for the open-minded and curious hearts in our community, as we’re joined by Wolf Frielünd; an occultist heavily influenced by her passion for theology, anthropology, parapsychology, and witchcraft, Wolf Frielünd focuses her practice on exploring the integrative benefits of Shadow Work, Death Magick, Spirit Communication, and Folk Magick to help her clients actively engage in their personal healing journeys.
Join us as we open up a safe and curious space to challenge misconceptions, dispel fears, and embrace the entirety of ourselves. Whether you're new to these topics or seeking deeper understanding, this episode promises to inspire and support your spiritual journey. So, get comfortable and shine on with us!
Key takeaways from the episode:
- Wolf Frielünd discusses the significance of shadow work in achieving total alignment with one’s true self. By facing difficult and hidden aspects of oneself, individuals can uncover their authentic selves and achieve balance.
- The episode highlights Wolf Frielünd’s unique use of intuitive witchcraft and runes in their practice. Through percussive instruments, plant medicine, and sacred smoke, Wolf crafts a psychically open space to guide individuals in understanding and integrating various aspects of their psyche.
- A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the concept of death magic and the role of a psychopomp.This enlightening perspective challenges societal stigmas and promotes a holistic understanding of life and death cycles.
Connect with our guest:
If you're intrigued by Wolf Frielünd’s work and want to learn more or inquire about her learning opportunities, the best way to connect with them is through their Instagram page,@toothandstone. Wolf can also be found on VERO, @frielund. We encourage listeners to reach out personally and experience [guest name] energy first hand if it resonates with you✨.
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Transcript
Introduction to the Podcast
00:00:03
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Welcome beautiful souls to Shine on You, the podcast that dives deep into the realms of modern spirituality, the metaphysical, and the mystical. I'm your guide on this journey, Renee Novello. This is not just a podcast, it's a sanctuary for the open-minded, the curious, and those called to topics that may be, at times, a little out there.
00:00:27
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Through grounded, heart-centered conversations, we are here to support your next breakthrough into higher alignment and help illuminate the path, highlighting the threads of wisdom that connect us all. We are a community of kindred spirits, a space for belonging, connection, and shared wisdom.
00:00:47
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This is Shine on You, a podcast where the coastal breezes of Wilmington, North Carolina meet cosmic mysteries. Jump in and join us for conversations that will feel like sunshine for your soul. To follow me along on this journey, head over to my website at ReneeNovello.com or on Instagram at Vibe with Intuition. Now let's dive into the interview.
Guest's Icelandic Experience
00:01:16
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We were talking about your travels in Iceland. Yeah, we were talking about Iceland and just the, the challenges that come with that, the tribulations that come with putting yourself in an environment that is so familiar yet so foreign, you know, and the concept of what expectation is, you know, was a big one for me on that trip and learning about how I interact with my ecosystem, wherever that is, and how that ecosystem in return responds to me.
00:01:44
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So the relationship aspect between myself and the unseen was a really big bookmark for me.
00:01:52
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So you were interacting with locals and other people that are in similar communities there? Yeah, absolutely. Part of the reason we went was it was the debut of the Sorcery and Witchcraft Festival in Homewick. And so we got to interact with lots of really cool people there. And I got some hand poked tattoos done there. And we were able to interact with like minded folks and do a blood ritual on the beach there at night, which was phenomenal. You know, it was really cool.
00:02:21
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but it was that whole, I don't know anybody, how do I interact? So that was part of, that was my shadow work. That wasn't like something that took over the whole trip. It was just a moment where I was like, oh man, okay, I don't know anybody, but it was great because it gave me perspective.
00:02:38
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For sure. And you were with Fox and you guys have been tight for a long time, right? Yeah, we've been friends. I don't like to put numbers on things cause that ages us, but probably the better part of seven plus years now at this point, I think if my math is right. Cause she met me right when my son had just turned two, he just turned two and now he'll be nine this year. So yeah, we've known each other for quite some time. That's awesome. Yeah. When she was here sitting across to me, she said, gotta have my girl. Oh yeah. She was a big fan of yours, obviously.
00:03:06
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but so many people wanted you to come on today and share your voice and your message. And yeah, I'm excited to get to know you. I have some questions. I have some things, but maybe tell us like a little intro, you know, however you want to do it to your work to you.
Intuitive Witchcraft and Shadow Work
00:03:20
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So I'm Wolf Freeland. I'm a local shamanic practitioner. I use intuitive witchcraft to help me connect to people and help them
00:03:28
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to face their fear and in facing their fear, they're able to unlock what I call the inner sanctum. And this inner sanctum is a space where they're able to connect with the inner versions of themselves that have gotten pushed away or pushed aside for the sake of survival, psychologically speaking.
00:03:47
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Not that I'm a licensed therapist, but I have done extensive self-education and CBT or cognitive behavior therapy techniques. And I loosely use those to kind of help people guide into the different modalities that they have adapted over the years that are no longer in alignment with their authentic purpose. So in doing these one-on-one sessions with people through my shamanic work, I'm able to kind of
00:04:14
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tie in these subconscious tactics to help people really see the whole picture. If I had to describe it quickly to a child, I would say, well, it's kind of like when you go for your driving test, I'm in the right side of the car and you're driving. You know, so it's not so much that I'm forcing the direction. It's more like I've got the hard hat and the clipboard and I'm like, okay, well I'm buckled in. So let's see where this goes. But as a practitioner too, I maintain the responsibility of keeping people in a safe space to do that.
00:04:43
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So for me, it's about showing people what they need to see from a lens that is not often utilized, especially in this community. And when I say this community, I mean more of a global community because shadow work is still a very buzzword type of phrase. And there's a lot of people who don't really know what it is or don't know it in its entirety enough to be able to actually use it as a tool that's helpful for other people.
00:05:08
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So that's what I do. I help people face their fear, face their trauma, kind of go into these darker spaces that most of the time you get told on other podcasts you listen to, they'll say, well, don't do shadow work alone. And it's really dangerous. I'm just like,
00:05:22
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Yes and no. You have to be able to understand that you have the ability to choose what you see and what you don't see. And at any time you want to get off the roller coaster, there's a big red button for that. It's your reality. So you choosing to sit with me is still your choice at the end of the day. I work heavily in accountability when it comes to my practice. So that's what I do. My Scorpio tendencies are tingling, all of them. I'm like, what placements do you have?
00:05:49
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I have a stellium in the fifth house, which is interesting. I have a scorpio stellium in the fifth house. So my son, my mercury, and my urnus, all in scorpio. And I like to go deep and I like to get into things that are hidden and subconscious and transformative and things like that. But I'm also like up at the Leo fifth house, like let's play and let's have fun with it. So yeah, it's kind of interesting. Yeah, you're like the toddler with the Ouija board. It's great.
00:06:18
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I love that for you. I really feel that. I really do as I was a little kid in haunted houses. Yeah. I feel that. Oh my gosh. Exactly. A lot of curiosity there. I love that. You have to remain curious in your practice.
00:06:31
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That's a thing that my tribe sisters and I do talk about quite often is there's so much fear mongering in the quote unquote healing community because there needs to be a power dynamic between the people who need the healing and the people who supposedly offer healing. And it creates this commoditization of an environment where you're supposed to be able to come to find yourself, right? So remaining curious is the biggest thing that I try to also inspire my clients to remain, you know, like, Oh, this is really scary. I'm like, okay, well,
00:06:58
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If it's scary and dark and abyssal, just remember you're the only thing down there. But I feel very safe with you even just in this container that we're in right now. Okay. So shadow work. Let's start there. Cause I do think there's a lot of misconceptions around that, what it is, what it isn't. Can you give us maybe a, yeah, an explanation on what shadow work is?
00:07:22
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or is not shadow work is the willingness to take off the masks to see what is really underneath and hold space for that point blank very simple shadow work is not this
00:07:34
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complex thing that a lot of people make it out to be. It can be once you get into the deep parts of the psyche, it's very complex. I don't mean to diminish anybody's ability to do the work they do as, as, as fellow shamans or fellow shadow workers that are all across the globe who do the good work. I'm not diminishing that. I'm simply saying that it is the sheer decision to step into
00:08:00
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what you are and allow that to then move into a space of alignment. And when I say alignment, I mean the fun buzz word authenticity, right? So as somebody who uses shadow work as a modality, I would say that it's the willing conscious decision to align. Yeah, that's beautiful. How do you help guide people initially, maybe that are new to that work or do you,
00:08:26
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Intuitively decide for that person like let's go here or do you have more of a systematic approach?
00:08:32
Speaker
It's systematic chaos. That's good. Um, most of the people I find over the years that I've been doing this are already ready to do it. And we just kind of find each other in the past. I was a lot more pushy about putting my services out there. And I got a lot of people who really weren't ready to take that adventure, so to speak. So nowadays the people that I work with are usually people who are supposed to find me anyway, when it comes to our first one-on-one session.
00:09:02
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I will typically do like a shamanic session on my own. So I'll ask for a photograph and do some deep diving in that and get some information off of that. And then our first session, it's pretty structured. You'll say, okay, where are you at mentally? Where are you at physically?
00:09:18
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Um, on your day to day, do you feel depressed? Do you feel anxious? Do you feel, you know, I kind of run through the slew of different mental states to kind of see what I'm dealing with. Because if I feel that somebody has come to me and they need clinical care, I'm going to just bypass that and say, look, here's your money back. I'm going to refer you to these different people or, Hey, look, I think he would be much better suited for, you know, hypnotherapy, for instance. That's not my realm.
00:09:44
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I'm very conscious about who I work with in the sense of what they need versus how I need to fill my bank account. That's a big thing for me too. So the first one-on-one session usually is an assessment, very loose assessment about what I'm working with. And if I feel like I have the green light from there, then I'll start giving them the information that I received in my shamanic deep dive with them. And just whatever sticks out to them is what we start talking about. And if they want to come back, they come back. And if they don't, then they don't.
00:10:12
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So it's very fluid. How do you receive information? Is it different or you have pretty much a consistent way that you receive information about people or their needs or what they're there for? So the way that I receive information tends to be through like an active meditation process. I will usually do some sound work for myself. So usually with percussive instruments.
00:10:33
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And I set like a whole space for myself. I will also utilize the correspondences, magical properties. And I don't want to say, I will use tools that helped to put me in a more psychically open space so that I can receive information, whether it's through plant medicine or resin medicine or sacred smoke. In doing all of that, I then receive imagery, words, sounds, phrases, colors.
00:11:01
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whatever that person needs. Sometimes what comes through is direct ancestor conversation and I sat with a client before and said hey look I don't know if this means anything to you and I said these words and this person that I was working with was just like how did you how did you know that?
00:11:17
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So let me give you a better answer. The way that I connect to people's energy has to do with setting shamanic sacred space for myself, moving into shamanic trance with plant medicine, sacred smoke, and percussive rhythmic movement, whether it's sound or dancing, anything like that. And usually through that, I will receive sounds, colors, words, images, words, phrases,
00:11:45
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random things too that make no sense. So it's, it's very fluid and it's hard to put to words, which is why I keep kind of cycling and circling around my answer. I think that's an incredible explanation and I love the drumming.
Spiritual Practices and Online Presence
00:11:58
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I'm very called to the drumming. I really am.
00:12:02
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I've been drumming for quite some time, but only recently have I had the nerve to put it on the internet. Yeah. There's a lot of stigmas around looking the way I do and having a drum, especially with people who are very quick to scrutinize versus people who are open to learning. So I've had a hard time. I think some people would call that like witch wounding. I've had a hard time being really open with my practice.
00:12:26
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Recently, I went into an expression that was very hardcore, professional looking on my Instagram. And halfway through Iceland, I was like, that's not who I am. And I had archived all of it. I was like, that's not me. That's me trying to be palatable. That's me trying to be a golden retriever. And I'm not.
00:12:46
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What is that like for you? You know, do out in the world, just navigating, talking to people, telling people what, like when people ask you the famous question, what do you do? I'm a math teacher. Yeah. So would you tell them, you're like, I break it down. I'm a math teacher. Yeah. But what have they asked you to do? Are you good at math? Nobody likes math. That's true. What the hell would anybody ask me? And I don't say that to,
00:13:13
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put a line in the sand or keep myself. It's just, I've gotten to where I realized that the people who I'm supposed to interact with are going to find me and seek me out in such a way that it's very obvious. So for me, for most people, I'm like, Oh, I, I do this, right? It's, it's, it's kind of fly to the seat of my pants. You know, I'm an accountant or I'm a math teacher. All right.
00:13:34
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something random, because I know nine times out of 10, somebody just is looking for an answer from me. Not so much that they're really trying to interact, you know, but- Yeah, they're not genuinely wanting, or maybe they are, because I would. I feel great, tell me more. I don't want to blanket, you know, and say everybody's just completely turned off. Not ready for it yet.
00:13:53
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But at the same time, I don't really get a lot of interaction out in the world. So when I do, either it's somebody who's just looking to bear bait me, or it's somebody who really wants to know. And I'm pretty good at sussing out people in that way. But yeah, if I say what I do, or if I really want to be honest in that moment, I'll say that I'm a counselor. I'm an alternative counselor. That's good. That doesn't require me to have a psych degree.
00:14:22
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And it's honest.
00:14:27
Speaker
So I want to talk a little bit about, and yeah, so when you're, you're working with people and helping them to, I think you use the word alchemize at some point.
Exploration of Death and Earth Magic
00:14:37
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I use that quite frequently on my page. Yeah. What is that? What does that mean? Exactly. Right. So the study and practice of alchemy is taking one thing in the form of a single, usually substance and transmuting it or recreating it into another substance. So the concept of, you know, creating gold from.
00:14:57
Speaker
I don't know, dirt, not that they didn't use dirt, but creating gold from nothing or discovering the philosopher's stone or the elixir of life, that kind of thing. It's the concept that what you have has enough value to be understood in a way that allows you to repurpose it in a way that's more aligned for what you are looking to discover about yourself.
00:15:23
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I feel that, and I feel the need to tell you all my dark deepest, every experience, everything that's been most transformative in my life now. Like the Jungle Book Trust. Right? Seriously. No, but that's really cool. So the component of the Death Witch, like is that based on, is there a specific story that you would feel comfortable sharing or life experience that kind of really, or maybe we should ask you to about your Scorpio placements,
00:15:52
Speaker
Tell us, like, is there something that was kind of the motivation for you to go into that direction and interest in helping in that way with death? Because I think I'm personally so interested in how, as a society, we are so voidant that that's the eminent reality for all of us and everything. Why is that of an interest?
00:16:17
Speaker
Well, a quick humorous answer is that my Pluto is in Scorpio. My Scorpio placement's in Pluto. That's my gift to you. I love it. That's it. I'm done. I'm walking out. Plutonic energy in the house today. No, that's a funny one. I don't want to say I don't know. It's just very innate for me. Working in spaces that are of the other with a capital O is something that comes very naturally to me.
00:16:45
Speaker
When somebody says why death, uh, why not, you know, because at that point we want to get philosophical with it. We could even go as far as to get into like existential conversation around why not, you know, because it doesn't really matter anyway. It it's existentialism is kind of interesting because to me it's, it's almost kind of like the, the love and light version of nihilistic behavior, but.
00:17:09
Speaker
Because no matter what you do, the end will always be the end of what it's supposed to be anyway, right? So in some way, shape, or form, it's about discovering who you are so that you can then enjoy the environment around you, not so much change the environment to fit what your needs. Anyway, why I work with, we can edit that out.
00:17:25
Speaker
Why I work with- No, I like it. Leave it. The reason I have gravitated towards death is unknown to me. Like I said, the funny answer to that is that my Pluto's placement is scorpionic by nature. So for me, anything dark, broody, uncomfortable, weird, unseen, awkward, whatever, you want to put a name on it. That's always been something that has called to me.
00:17:49
Speaker
Working with death, I think it, I think it definitely dips into the constructs around fear, fear facing, facing fear, you know, the, the ultimate allowance of, of what is and how you are subjecting yourself to the void as a whole.
00:18:10
Speaker
I believe that death magic is earth magic as well. If we get away from like the cottage core bullshit and we really look into like what earth magic is and the correspondences. Tell us about earth magic and death magic.
00:18:23
Speaker
So these are my definitions because a lot of people will have different meanings to these. But so for me, Earth magic is about the returnism to the self, the cycles of life, how you are able to connect in an animistic way for me is about Earth magic. And there's also lots of chaos in it as well.
00:18:43
Speaker
embodying natural disasters, for instance, using that in your practice, not just working with the moon or the constellations, knowing that, oh, well, there's a volcano that is erupting currently in Iceland. How do I use that energy to manifest with all these different planetary placements? And moving into a more vast answer, you could say that Earth magic is magic, because you don't have the elements without Earth, and you don't have
00:19:11
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earth without the elements and then moving further you want to like continue to zoom out right like we're getting into like different different cosmos at that point you know it just continues to expand from that so i think earth magic and death magic are terms that humans like to use to sound edgy deeper than that i think
00:19:32
Speaker
Death is challenging. As somebody who works in challenging spaces, for me, working with the construct of death and the imagery of death as well. Being somebody who works very heavily with, you know, La Marte, for instance, somebody who works very heavily with Kali, that kind of destructive energy. Death is the beginning, the end. Death is the ouroboros, if you will. You know, so it's not so much death magic.
00:19:58
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It's more like I'm so edgy. It's not, it's not so rock and roll as it sounds. I mean, I'm pretty rock and you are, but that's a long winded winding kind of an answer. It's a Gandalf answer. You know, I can't really, it's the antithesis of love and light, but it is also love and light. Working with Lamorte, for instance, she's very bright and very light energy. Kali is very understanding and compassionate. Right. You allow it. Death magic is the allowance.
00:20:27
Speaker
period, the capital, the allowance, it's the allowance of the movement of energy at all. So that's death magic to me. It's working with the cycles. It's working with, yeah, everything. Yeah. And I mean, we've lost our connection to society. Well, in our society to death, to the, you know, to, we just kind of want to pretend it's not going to happen, avoid it.
00:20:54
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And, you know, we're in denial and then we're kind of ill prepared and we just want to, we don't, you know, we don't know how to act. We don't know what to do.
00:21:02
Speaker
Do you practically help people in their time of transition and exit points? Very much in alignment that you asked that question. Um, I've been really called to working in like a death doula ship for quite some time and the timing just hasn't been right yet, but it's definitely on a back burner that's turned on for me. If that makes sense, you know, it's something that continues to kind of show up for me and even you saying that.
00:21:29
Speaker
Who you are what you are all of that coming into my periphery or even into my current trajectory and saying hey Do you do that yet? I'm like, okay universe got it. Yeah. No that came through very clearly this morning I was I was thinking it this morning on the drive here's like I wonder if I should look into that certification again And then here we are
00:21:46
Speaker
So yeah, my answer to you on that, uh, succinctly is I'm not currently a death doula, but it's in my trajectory in the very near future to explore what that means to be somebody who is more of a psycho pump really at the end of the day. And I have learned to kind of weave that term into the work that I do too. So a psycho pump comes from working in, it's more of a Greek, uh, term in the way that if I can make it more simple, you help energies move through death. Okay.
00:22:15
Speaker
Like, like Karen, for instance, not with the haircut, but with the two, the two coins that you give to the ferryman that he in a very simplistic way, for time's sake, he would be in some ways, like a ferryman to the other side, a psycho pomp is somebody who can connect with death, dying dead portals change all of that and move through those dark places.
00:22:40
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with people, for people. It's very Hecatean in nature as well. Like Hecate would be considered a psycho pump in that regard. Personally, I'm always interested in why we are so challenged by that. I mean, obviously there's loss and
00:22:59
Speaker
transmuting into another form is what I come from, what I believe. So it's just like we need that so much. We need that more voices that are allowing us to see a greater perspective.
00:23:13
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and to not be caught up in, you know, our despair and our, you know, emotions, which are very real. But honestly, I hope that when I take my exit, people are like, yeah, go like you got this. Like, I don't want, you know what I mean? Like I want to be encouraged to take that part of the journey and like feel it be like almost an uplifting
00:23:37
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positive thing as opposed to like a sad thing. Like I want my soul to be celebrated for it's, you know, continuing on. So having support or having people that are helping people kind of make that jump or make that transition. It's, it is, it's such a cultural thing that we're so all faced with, like can't avoid it, but we don't know what to do with it. And I just like to take that perspective of like, yeah, it's going to be good.
00:24:05
Speaker
It's going to be okay. Like I'll be releasing this density. Yeah. Especially, you know, my recent realizations of having a body or just really weird. I feel that that's the psycho pump aspect. Right. Let's say that you, but not you. Right. Another version. Let's say whoever this person is, person a is gone. Meat suit is left and they're just kind of hanging around.
00:24:31
Speaker
That would be the psycho pump. That would be somebody who says, okay, this is where you need to go. This is how you need to, you know, let me escort you. The death duel is more about the people left over. Right. Then it is about helping the person who's passed on or is passing work through the fear of that. Do you know what I mean? Right. So, so the death isn't really for the people who work on it's for the living.
00:24:52
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So once again, it's the cycles of things, but death is for the people who are left over and the people who are sad are either people who are existing. And this is very, let me preface this and make sure we add this preface that this is a very cut and dry, very brutal, very from the hip response. I hold a lot of compassion for my clients when they have gone through loss and experience loss to be true to myself and the way that I provide information. I will just say that.
00:25:22
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people who hold on to pain after death or people who have resentments or people who have regrets. You know, so it's really more about them. It's more about them. And that's okay. If you have resentments and regrets, I'm just saying that if you're, and I don't want to blink it, you know, this is very touchy. I'm going to be very careful with this, but
00:25:41
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People who have a lot of baggage after somebody has died are usually in a space of not having been in a good place of that person or somebody who didn't say things they should have said or they're making it about them. Is there a human thing to do? That's the kind of perspective I'm into is that getting to that place where you can kind of be more whole and healed and feel at peace, right? I mean, that's all.
00:26:09
Speaker
We want for, you know, our humans to feel whole and healed, even if they've been through tragedy and not carry that story and carry that through the rest of their cycles in their life. Yeah. I'm really, I'm really excited to hear more about this path that might be presenting itself for you. Cause I mean, this is something that most people, they weren't taught, they won't touch. They're not going to touch it there. It's too much, right? To go into those spaces and it's so needed.
Challenges and Rewards of Shadow Work
00:26:36
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Oh, that's like shadow work as a whole, right? Like for me, if shadow work is an umbrella, then all of these things we're talking about are sub genres of that.
00:26:45
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You said something about people won't touch that and it's too much. It's too heavy. Well, that's where the work is. Of course they're not going to touch it. Most people don't, you know, you go to the gym, I've lost five pounds. Cool. Great. I'm going to keep lifting the same weight. Cause that's where I'm at. That's it. It takes a lot to challenge yourself, to push yourself into a position of actually forcing yourself to grow because it's uncomfortable. And that's the shadow work part. Right. Yeah.
00:27:10
Speaker
It's not stopping where it's easy. It's how I did one ayahuasca trip. I'm good. Okay. So sit down, sit down. You know, um, I'm not dismissing ayahuasca. I'm just saying that there are people out there who think that they can take one weekend retreat, see a Jaguar, and then think that they're fucking healed. And I'm like, there's more that's, that's, that's a message.
00:27:31
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There's more in that for you. Like how, how, how far in the shadow work is this? How far are you willing to go until you are in a space where you're okay with all of the things that you're saying? Like I'm in a haunted house and this is great. I love this. You know, um, love that for you. This is awesome. So yeah, so yeah, that's something you said. I just want to make a quick note about that. You know, it's, it's not that it's scary or difficult,
00:27:59
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but it is that it's scary and difficult because it's, you're having to do the work and a lot easier. Tell the humans like me, they're like, yeah, but when it's, when does it feel good? What's the payoff? What do I get for it? Going through it through looking at the shadow. So that might quit. My answer to that would be, well, that's up to you. You know, if, if you're comfortable being in an anxious, hyper aware state, then good for, I love that for you.
00:28:25
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If you're okay with constantly thinking that everybody is against you, great. If you're comfortable with hating the way you look in the mirror every day, go for it. If you're comfortable making yourself small because your mom's a bitch, cool. Come see me when you're ready. That's the payoff. Excuse my French. Um, you're allowed to use French here.
00:28:48
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I don't speak French. I just use bad French. But the payoff is, the payoff, and you can use this part, right? The payoff for shadow work is total alignment. And when I say total, I mean actualized. We get really caught up in the community about, well, I wanna be whole, I wanna be saved, I wanna be fixed. We're not Christians. Well, you can be. I'm not. It's about how you are willing to show up for yourself.
00:29:14
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And at the end of the day, again, it comes all the way back around to you will do the work that you are called to do when you're called to do it. And if you're never called to do it, that's okay too. It's less hard lined than people want to make it. There's a lot of people and it's natural human behavior to want to create little categories and little sub genres and studying the basics of sociology, you know, like, well, we're punk and we're post punk and, you
00:29:37
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Well, we're preppy and we like to listen to the carpenters. I'm like, but you're all the same. At the end of the day, nobody's really different. You know, it's the need to belong and that gets back into more behavioral psychology, right? So you don't want to be segregated from the tribe because then your survival is at risk. So what do you do? Psychologically speaking, you push down emotions, you put on a mask, you survive. It's the constant struggle of belonging versus authenticity, really. Right.
00:30:07
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Right. And in a society where we're taught that authenticity is not okay. Right. Because somebody is going to have an opinion about something. Right. And we're in this new age of really learning how we step into authenticity and it's kind of like giving the kid who has never been allowed to smoke a cigarette or have a drink in his whole life.
00:30:24
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access to the ABC store and a tobacco store. Oh, and here's a driver's license while you're at it. People are just like off their rockers, like out there energetically speaking as for the sake of metaphor drunk driving and smoking and being really excited about the fact they have choices now. I'm like, that's great, but we have to learn what choices are important and what choices are fueling our shadow. Cause a lot of people
00:30:46
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operate from a shadow space. A lot of people operate from their shadow. A lot of people operate from their wounded ego and they don't even understand why they do it. That's part of shadow work too. It's like understanding where you work out of mentally. Okay. You have a reaction, but where does it come from? But why, you know, why are you upset about that? Why does that piss you off? Why does that make you angry?
00:31:09
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and holding yourself accountable for those things. That's the other hard part. You know, people say, well, this came from my mom and this came from my dad and this happened when I was 12. I'm like, okay, so how long do you want to be a victim? Right. Right. That's the other half of it. That's the accountability part of it that shadow work demands that a lot of people don't want to face or admit to.
00:31:32
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I take a breath. I'm getting all like jazzed up over here. I'm just like, you know, I got to remember to 10, count to count to 10 human again, you know, but no, but I feel your passion and I think it's an important part of the conversation that doesn't get much of a voice. It's, you know, so I'm here for it personally.
00:31:53
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I also wanted to ask you about the paintings that you do.
Artistic Expression and Inspiration
00:31:57
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Yeah. Do you consider yourself an artist? Yes. First and foremost. I was going to say, that's the way I'm receiving it. Yeah. First and foremost, I'm an artist and that was since I was very young, just like my interactions with source happened when I was very young. So for me, being able to tap in and see color shapes, sounds, I see sounds, it's weird.
00:32:17
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I do and I don't need any red bull to it and taste colors and no caffeine necessary. But you know, uh, so that is a gift that I have. That's how I've learned to connect. It's a very abstract gift and it's been really hard for me to put words to because it's not as simple as saying, well, I do this or I do that, or I'm a tea leaf reader or I work with candle, you know, and that's not to diminish those practices. It's just, what do you tell somebody when you say, yeah, the color around you right now is chartreuse.
00:32:46
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And they just look at you like, I'm sorry, what? Nothing. They're like, I thought you were a math teacher. Right. I'm a math teacher. Right. Well, I mean, technically, technically, right. If you want to get like funny about it. I mean, I guess I am. Right. Because everything is math. Yeah.
00:33:01
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So little you was an artist or what was little you like? Little me. Oh wow. Little me was always dressing up as Morticia or Lily Munster for Halloween, but really being obsessed with the color pink unicorns and Barbies. So it was a really good mix. Both things. Yeah. I feel that. I feel that. Yeah. And your son is your sunshine Scorpio. Is that what you said?
00:33:23
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Yeah, so my rising and my son are both in Scorpio. My moon is in Capricorn. You want more? If you want to. I know. If there's anything else. You already told us your mercury is in such Sagittarius. Yeah. Yeah. Jupiter's in Leo. Good time. I love it. Cause you do have a very playful, like
00:33:43
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Goofy side. Like I was watching your memes yesterday. I was cracking up. You had some good ones. Yeah. I couldn't sleep. That's what happens. Yeah. My story. Sometimes I'll just like blast like 20 things. Oh, I wanted to ask about your art and you did an Iceland though. How was, how was that inspired by the trip by things that you were seeing or what was that? What was the connection? Yeah.
00:34:08
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The art wasn't any different than I always do. As far as like the result wasn't really any different. The connecting to it was still the same modality. I would say it's more amplified. It was like.
00:34:22
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putting a microphone up to it, or listening to underwater sounds. It was like that. There was a lot of medicine there that really helped me to step into a different headspace, which allowed the flow of that information to just be even simpler than it is now. I didn't have to work so hard to get to it. It was- Did you feel really tapped in when you were there? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.
00:34:42
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And being in that kind of being tapped in there allowed me to understand that you can be tapped in like that anywhere. It's how you choose to connect to that energy. So I've brought that mental checklist, like, okay, this is how I did that. This is why I did that. This is what it looked like when I tapped in that way, right? I took all of that with me.
00:35:05
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and brought it back here and have been using those modalities, if you will, to continue that conversation at an amplified frequency. That's incredible. So that's what Iceland did for me as a whole.
00:35:20
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Tell people who don't know, and for me, because I'm not sure I do, what is a rune? A rune? So in a simplistic academic form, a rune is a letter. Like ABC. In a magical sense, which is debated on when that actually happened, depending on who you ask. A rune is the embodiment of an archetype, or an energy, or a frequency.
00:35:44
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And I say, or energy or frequency, not that those two words are actually coinciding at all. They're very separate things, but a rune can be letters and it can also be a glyph that has energy tied to it and how you connect with it. A rune is very, it can be very fluid. So when I do, in my paintings, I use runes. That's what I was getting at because your paintings.
00:36:06
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The runes for that, I hold true to the mostly conventional meanings of them, right? I have my own e-book that I wrote, which is, highlights the Elder Foods arc and how I connect with them on an occult, esoteric, alchemic level from more of a Western alchemical perspective, as well as like a death shaman.
00:36:29
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but so when runes show up for me in that way, it's like, okay, I know what this embodies, but what is it actually saying? There's two different things. You know, it's like me showing up today and looking the way that I do, but then I have a message to tell you. And that's what a rune is for me. It's okay. These, this is what it is at face value, but what does it actually mean for this person? Right? So it's never customized.
00:36:51
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transmissions, if you will, or? I would say transmissions, and they're based off of that person's frequency, which comes through, and it's a matter of being really adept at knowing, like, okay, is that me, or is that them, too? Being really aware of where that kind of fuzzy line is in the sand, if you will, but yeah, no runes. They're very special for me because they are so human.
00:37:12
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And they're so mundane, but then at the same time, they carry so much value and so much meaning and they connect you to the land and the people that they came from as well. When I taught some rune classes back when I worked at medical school shop here in town, I would tell people that you don't start with the first one and end with the last one. You start with whatever one calls to you first and you work with that one and work with it for months at a time. You know, a lot of people say, well, pull a tarot card a day.
00:37:41
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I'm like, well, I'll just pull a rune a day. I'm like, that's a lot of information. Yeah, there needs to be some integration in there. That's what you're saying. Right. And I think as somebody who has a love for symbology, I think that, you know, integrating imagery, words, colors, no matter what your path is, your tools are, whether it's tarot cards or runes or witch's runes or whatever the hell you want it to be. You need to take time with it. I think earth magic is slow magic.
00:38:08
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but want this instant gratification. They say, Oh my God, I got my tarot reading this week and I got this card, this card, this card. I'm going to employ it this way and use it that way. And then three weeks later they're like, well, I missed that. I'm like, because you weren't taking your time.
Advice for Practitioners
00:38:21
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So as we're wrapping up, tell us any other messages that you want to share or anything else is coming through that you think the listener might need to know. Wow. I know that's a big question. Okay. Part of what I do,
00:38:37
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in turn leads people into acquiring mentorships with who I am and what I do as a practitioner. And the biggest thing for me is empowerment with somebody's craft. So if you're new to something, if you're new to what I do, if you're new to any of it, take everything at face value.
00:38:59
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but take it with a grain of salt. Even me, I tell my own clients, like if something doesn't jive with what I've said, question me, challenge me. So my message to anybody out there, whether they've been practicing for 20 years or 20 minutes is challenge everything that you see, challenge everything you read.
00:39:15
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Don't believe anything you hear and take it for what it is and really develop Who you are in? What you want to study or what you want to practice? It's a matter of finding the balance in Chasing who you are instead of being something that's palatable for other people that kind of like
00:39:38
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There's a whole lot I'm trying to say in a very single, run-on sentence. There's a lot coming through. There's a lot of people out there that are just looking for validation. There's a lot of people out there that are just looking to be told that what they're doing is the right thing. There's a lot of people out there who misuse the good work too, seeing a lot of stuff on the internet like, love magic and make your boyfriend come back to you and put these runes on his shoes so he'll never leave you. I'm like, that's manipulative. Let's not do that.
00:40:05
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So let's not say we did. So for me, magic, this is the takeaway, right? Working with magic, being a practitioner is about connecting with yourself, connecting with the land, and being able to walk in an aligned way that allows you to fulfill your purpose. And finding your purpose is going to be about facing who you are on the inside.
00:40:29
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and not really being so afraid of who doesn't work with that and who does work with that. Just really being authentic in that space and having respect for what you do, how you do it, and who you connect with. In some weird way it's about respecting everything around you while also holding space for yourself. I think that like embracing the authenticity and not
00:40:51
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always relying on the shiny, acceptable pieces of you that is acceptable, quote unquote, and going deeper into the places that need to be brought through as well, right? To make you a whole balanced,
00:41:08
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having a human experience and all of the above, right? Yeah. I think accepting that being whole and balanced means that you're still going to have really shitty days too. You know, like I still have moments where I act like a five year old and that's okay. You're allowed to do that. And it's just a matter of how you move past that and what you do after that, that makes the difference. True.
00:41:29
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So tell people how they can work with you and find you.
Conclusion and Contact Information
00:41:33
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Okay. So the best way to find me is on my Instagram page at tooth and stone. That's the best, honestly, the best way to get ahold of me because you send me a message on there. Um, then we can talk more about what it is that you are interested in learning about, but that's, that's the main vein of getting ahold of me on my Instagram page, a tooth and stone.
00:41:55
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I love bringing people here in person because you get such a multifaceted experience and being in your energy and it you can't I mean your Instagram is awesome but you can't quite get there you know what I mean so I encourage people to reach out to you personally get to know you and your energy if it's calling to them because I've really enjoyed our time today and I have
00:42:18
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Still 100 questions, but. I know, I wish we could keep going. I feel like we've just started actually getting into a groove. It's hard to condense it all into the time frame. But thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. And the work that you do in the world is really important. Thank you. I appreciate that.