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A Wink and A Nod
29 Plays5 months ago
Chris and Jarod talk about the Sixers landing Paul George and what moves they need to make to compete in the East, talk about KCP moving to Orlando, Dejounte Murray moving to New Orleans, talk about trade scenarios for Brandon Ingram and so much more!
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Summer's Arrival and Weather Changes
00:00:02
Speaker
You know they want standpoint, you know we straight to the point Ball Chris with the sis, fast breaks like a joint square in half Ball J with the J, we throwing heat, no gas, that's a touchdown pass You know just how we coming, so it's nothing left to say Now they hard-leaking guard me like Dirk fade away You know just how we coming, so it's nothing left to say Yeah, you know just how we coming, so it's nothing left to say They want standpoint, you know we straight to the point They want standpoint, you know we straight to the point They want standpoint, you know we straight to the point
00:00:39
Speaker
What up what up what up what up now the summer is here now we could finally say it's summer time Okay, Jared just now celebrating the summer. Yeah Meanwhile, the rest of us been celebrating since about Memorial Day. Have you though? Have you really though? Didn't you just tell me the heat just hit you the heat just hit you at least The sunlight finally started beaming on you. The weather change was so drastic for y'all in the East Coast. You were like, what the hell is going on? Summer just hit. Now it's following here.
Paul George's Move to the 76ers
00:01:09
Speaker
And then NBA Free Agency started. Summer finally started. Yes, yes. More of Jared, you know, forecasting the weather for across the country. Let's talk about and NBA Free Agency. The expected not so secret, you know, biggest name out there was Paul George. As it should be.
00:01:28
Speaker
When MB winked and nodded on national television for the world to see, everyone just, you know, whoever was in Nepal, Georgia, the six year camp kind of, you know, doubled down except for Shams who did not. We had to scream tampering as soon as we saw that wink and nod. We had to, we had to fall back. Shams was on our side this summer. He was on our side. Whatever. Anyway, we so had the last time we got caught with Tambourine. We lost some things that we should never lost, the PJ Tucker. Oh, there's a much higher ah comedy. Can't call it Tambourine again. Can't do it. Had to fall back. Well, that's not Tambourine. I don't know what is. Well, a wink and a nod is like, you know, he could have had a twitch in his eye. You know, he just came with that ah palsy in his eye. That could still be a side effect.
00:02:18
Speaker
You OK? Sure. But Paul George signs with the Philadelphia 76ers furthering the bizarro version of the same franchise on both sides of the country. Sixers and Clippers stuck in the same L just on different sides of the spectrum. Jared? I was lousy. How? I'm lousy. How's it lousy? I can't. Can we honestly say we're on the same spectrum in the Clippers when they've never made a finals in there? history. how How many how many conference? How many finals have you seen in your lifetime? Jerry with the sixes. Uh I witnessed one. do i Do I remember it vividly? Oh absolutely not. No. But you witnessed one. but I mean our parents have witnessed two. Okay. Our grandparents parents have witnessed two if we want to claim that but I don't claim that. Okay whatever. If you want to claim eighty three. How many finals have the Clippers witnessed ever? It doesn't matter Jerry.
Comparing 76ers and Clippers
00:03:15
Speaker
My point is
00:03:17
Speaker
for the For the greater part of the last 25 years, they've both been in this same cycle of we're going to load up for this star unsuccessfully and keep kicking tires, keep kicking tires, keep kicking tires, and keep falling short. yeah the The parallels, I keep seeing it. You can talk about the the number of players that have gone back and forth between the franchises. This all goes back to Elton Brand. I blame Elton Brand for all of this. A respectable thing to do. um I truly respect that. But you look at Paul George moving from the Clippers, why it didn't work and why a lot of people said it wasn't going to work. It came down to health and availability of the main star.
00:04:12
Speaker
yeah And then you have a guy in harden who has a very spotty playoff record and he himself Paul George has a very spotty playoff record. It didn't work. It hasn't worked. And now it's like, okay, let's go to the Sixers who do the same thing on the
Does Paul George Make 76ers Contenders?
00:04:35
Speaker
East coast. Maybe they, it's not as bombastic of a, of a collapse. but it's still a collapse with MB. I'm not a, you know, the same parallel, the same thing we talk about Kawhi, we talk about MB. If he's healthy, if he's here, how does Paul George make the Sixers better? So say if you like the move or not first, you never even said that. Yeah, he said that. Say if you like the move or not first before you question it, what do you hate it or you love it? He's here now, so do you hate it or you love it?
00:05:14
Speaker
I don't know. God. I still don't know. Oh my lord. I've never, I don't know if anyone has noticed this or picked up on this, but I was never the, we should go in all in on Paul George. I was never in the, we should go all in on Paul George because I didn't think that it made the Sixers better than Boston.
00:05:39
Speaker
Because it's not about, oh, does it make, does this, it's Paul George better than to buy his Harris. Come on. and I don't even, right. Let's not even waste our time. Well, I get that. does It doesn't make the Sixers better. Okay. In the, okay. Yeah. Maybe incrementally, but it doesn't make them better than Boston. And if it's, you're not better and you're not even, I don't think you're in the same conversation as both. Okay. Let me do this day, Chris.
NBA Free Agency and 76ers Strategy
00:06:02
Speaker
Gun your head. I just removed the safety right now. OK, can we not take the can we not use that? Because like you're trying to play the middle line right now before you can make a decision when. OK, if you have to make me choose, yeah, I guess I like it. OK, there we go. So now we can get into your analysis. Because if you'd like to move, you just don't like the crux of the fact that you got it from the Clippers. Obviously, and he's 34. No, no, no, I don't i don't like it. Where he came from doesn't necessarily matter.
00:06:34
Speaker
OK, I shouldn't say that. I guess it doesn't. If this was Thunder project, we had this conversation. yeah not Yes. Yes. Because the same conversation, the same thing that would be there, because he came from the the came from Indiana, couldn't get couldn't get past the heat. So not to him, like, OK, we blame the team, right? Then we start changing scenarios and start changing situations, and you still can't get it done. Well, then the only thing I would change is remember, when he left, in the end, he was coming off that massive injury for the Olympics. Yes, yes. Went to the OKC and revitalized his career. Because we all thought he was cooked. We never thought he was going to bounce back. And he had two of his, two and a half, because the half of season where he came back, he was still a little shaky. Two solid, real good years with OKC, where he was coming off like the best career. ever We were thinking it was an n MVP conversation. code He was dominant in the playoffs. He was.
00:07:31
Speaker
Dame hit a crazy shot. He lost the jazz where, again, Russ's shortcomings also played a little factor in. And Russ was also coming off of one of his dominant basketballs. Or he like you know was beating out in front of the doubles. Oh, let me stop. Let me stop here. When we have had this conversation, it feels OK. Let me stop you. Let me stop you. Because I'm not questioning his talent. I know he's talented. I understand the question is 20 off resume like that. I'm questioning, I'm questioning, does this move for the 76ers as a whole, make this team better than Boston? Make this team compete. You can compete with Boston now. We couldn't compete last year at all. Does this move make them better than Boston? It can. It really can. Yes or no. Gun to your head, does this move make them better than Boston?
00:08:20
Speaker
No, that's right. No, Jared, don't. Porzingis is out, yes. Now Porzingis, yes. With Porzingis, no. I'm talking about fully healthy, because we talk about who knows if Embiid will be healthy. Who knows if right now he is. Right now he is. And right now is not the middle of the season. It's not the end of the season, it's not the playoffs. No, because I mean like the bus got the best start in five and leading. They are locked up now for the next three years. They all got their extensions. Every last starting player has been extended. Hey, kudos to them. I don't know who they GM is, but shout out to how it is. I don't know who their odor is. We're already at. We're at Steven's. You know who GM is? We're the odor. Where is this buddy coming from? They up for sale, Jerry. You can go buy them. You want to chip in? We can get a little small portion down. I'm just saying like half a percent can give us something. I'm all right. Because Lord.
00:09:17
Speaker
I'm not even going to waste these people's time. I ain't got no money. I mean, how do you play with these people? I honestly think the part of judgment was good. Again, what options do we have once you lose out on the guy you wanted the most? This is my problem. This is my problem is that they put themselves back in pre-processed Sixers position. They're no better now. they're There are no they're no closer to winning the title now than they were when they started this one. Oh, well, that's every team until they went to seven games with Boston in 2012 and tore it down. Yeah. And they haven't gotten any further than that. Does this team make it further than that? I think they can now.
00:10:08
Speaker
I feel like the roster though, but even you're starting, your big three is finally a big three. We never actually, everybody keeps saying we've had big threes before. really have We really We really haven't. Unless you want to really say Ben Simmons and Bead and Tobias are big three. We didn't really get to see what in Bead, Ben and Jimmy look like cause Jimmy left after the and after half a season. Remember they only played the middle of the season and left. That would have been a great big three. We could claim it, but we can't even claim that. He played deadline or early trade deadline indices and gone. Then you have to bias. It's not now. You kind of can say this is our best victory we've ever established. Carter's 34. Yes, but he still could play at a high level. We've now seen it where and NBA guys can still play at pretty high level past 33 before we used to question that. Now you don't have the question as much because health in the NBA is a lot different. The game has changed.
00:11:02
Speaker
It's more of a league where you can play up until you're at least 36, 37. That's fine. It's just now you just got to hope for health, like Chris mentioned, you have to hope for health. I like the move. I think Paul George is a better fit than when he was with the Clippers because obviously they had a deficiency at the guard spot in the Clippers. We don't really have that with Maxi and then whatever backup we bring, which is probably only Kyle Lowry. We got the big man that we finally wanted again, you know, brought back German. I like that. Uber is back. Didn't even think we was going to be able to get him back at all. Like we got him back. And then Eric Gordon's the only signing I don't like. The only one I don't like. And I feel like it's just four years or five years too late. Like Eric Gordon's now way past. Is Eric Gordon is eric gordon better than Buddy Hill? No. I don't know. Is he cheaper than Buddy Hill? Oh, absolutely. Vastly cheaper. I'm coming on now. Buddy Hill's still making close to $27 million. Let's do this. Let's do this cause benefit and analysis live on the pod.
00:11:56
Speaker
Is the difference between Buddy Hill and Eric Gordon like contributing to this team being better, right? That whatever value you put on that. Yeah. Is that greater than, less than the difference in their salaries? Like if, if Buddy Hill is making $20 million dollars a year, how much of Eric Gordon's software again? One year five. Okay. One year five.
Eric Gordon's Value Debate
00:12:20
Speaker
$15. Yeah. Is there $15 million dollars worth of difference between these players?
00:12:27
Speaker
yeah it's right there and right yeah Market wise, yes. Talent wise. Talent wise. Talent wise, slightly like he was like better than Eric Gordon. Like, is he $15 million dollars better than him? as For how he shoots the ball, yeah. But Eric Gordon's washed, dude. Like, he can't play defense anymore. You washed. Who else? Who on this team can play defense? On the Sixers? Yeah. Almost everybody but Eric Gordon. And then we don't know what the rookies would. But they're both more serviceable defensively, I would think, than Eric Gordon is. So then you can hide him. Can we? Because we couldn't hide but he killed. We couldn't hide him either. We never remember. He stopped playing after a month of the trip. Well, he also stopped scoring. So that was why you couldn't go but he did. And then Eric Gordon also stopped scoring after a while. What was the last time? Remember, Eric Gordon used to do the wild pull-up threes from Steph range. But look at the rockets. And now he doesn't do that anymore because he knows his side shot. Yes, he's a little older. But a little.
00:13:23
Speaker
i mean him him and and la like like what we talking about Stop I'm trying I'm in delusional mode stop. All right. I respect. I'm sorry. I just wanted to let you know 36 not a little But a hundred so anyway and Brian still average 25 and he's the only point ever doing it and be history well good But my point is Eric Gordon's a little older I was a little older you're going to need to rotate like You want to talk about load management throughout the team. This is going to be an older bunch of guys. So when you talk about filling out the roster, you're looking at names like KJ Martin. You're looking at names like maybe moving Paul Reed and some assets to try to create space for a legitimate role player type guy. But that's what I want with the younger-ish guys, now that we know we're a little bit older with the vets. Yeah, but it's not like those guys are readily available.
00:14:22
Speaker
They aren't. They aren't, but I'd rather it. Okay. Of course you would. I mean, I don't know. Cause nowadays look, some teams don't, they want to sit with the vets and they feel like we can ride it. We can ride the vet wave to get to the postseason. The vets have the experience to now take us deep, but that's not the case because their bodies are done. Right. But you got to look at the idea of.
00:14:45
Speaker
you you bring some at some some mental assets to the game. like Like they talk about, especially with older players, they see the floor, they're able to you know teach the younger guys whatever the case may be. But usually when we find teams that are trying to make playoff runs, you kind of tend to rely on these older established type guys. But there is a fine line between guys who are like, quote, yeah and can't make it to the finish line in Oklahoma City. like Oklahoma City is the ultimate. like they're they they're not They're not young enough. They're not experienced enough in terms of you know NBA basketball making that run. The vet presence, they need it. Because honestly, if they had a legitimate vet, they could look like them. If they had a KCP on their team, Clay Thompson,
00:15:38
Speaker
poise that really beat the Mavs. Right, right. If they had like... Because the Timberwolves had a Mike Conley. Yeah, it's kind of like with Colbert and I'm sorry, with Conley in Minnesota, because a lot of the thing that you hear about from older players in OKC was that they weren't able to like assembly. Yeah. Because their team was so young, they all got each other. And they're like looking at all here like and they still have that still and they that's the issue still a little bit with even this free agency But they got the center. They want it. We'll talk about that in a minute, right? Well, well let's was's let's let's finish up the sister thing real quick and then I just like I'm just saying this look at it if you do bring back a car which uh, okay, I Don't okay. Okay. Let me let me at least be good vets. Let me ask you this because you you scoff at Kyle Lowry
00:16:33
Speaker
Where is the, what's the upgrade? No, no, what's the realistic upgrade? He's realistic. If we talk about touch of the first apron anyway, I'd much rather Ty's Jones than Dory Finney Smith. Me personally. I like Ty Jones. I think he's a very good backup pointer or starter starter as a question mark. You know, so we just deal with the Wizards, but as a backup, he's the best. He's one of the best backup pointers in the NBA. would much rather have him. He's not. He's no longer. Young, but he's like 27. Vet wise, he's good. And then it still has like experience with the playoffs. Cause he was on Memphis. He knows what it's like to make runs. He knows what it's like to be in those crucial situations. And then now your, your vet can be PG Drummond, Eric Gordon, and then like on bees old enough now where you can call him a vet, right? Like you don't have to go with this 37 year old backup point guard.
00:17:29
Speaker
who was starting for us in and in the playoffs, and he was like, come on, come on. I know he can still take a charge or two, but I don't know. I ain't iin't the biggest fan of Carlisle anymore. I like him still, but I just don't want to see him get on a six-uniform, and then it's just not going to work out as much. I mean, that goes to everybody, Jared. If your whole thing is, I don't want to stay on a six-uniform and not work out as much, that's literally every sixer. Oh, well, that's every. No, but we're guys just like, how does it go, dude? you though well What are we going to say with Carlisle? Old hoes, like we've seen what he just did. And we was like, man. We knew this. We knew this. We knew this. We're back, Patbeth. We. How about that? We're back, Patbeth. Come on. Does Patbeth make this seem exponentially better? I like Patbeth. I like Patbeth. I think Patbeth still locks it defensively. I saw one of six of you before, but I didn't hate it. I like the dog. I like the energy. I was like, hey, Dad, Patbeth.
00:18:28
Speaker
You try and talk them out of, I think, I think they're bringing, I mean, it's pretty much assumed that Lowry's coming back to the city. I think it's pretty much guaranteed he goes back because the son has just got Monte Morris. So let's not even go with the spy in the sky idea of adding Titus Jones or Pat Bell. Good Lord. 38 years old is Kyle Lowry. 38. I mean, give me a realistic option. Like I don't think there's one out there. jones I don't think it's real simple Like as a as a legitimate backup, I mean they could call The recently released campaign they can call me. No, I don't bring it back. Never mind. They call can't get any color. Never mind. I'm bringing back Let's do it
00:19:21
Speaker
he supposed to do what
00:19:24
Speaker
How about that? Give me Spence. Efficient score, six, seven or six. Sometimes, sometimes he got a little, he got a little chucker streak in him. But off the bench, do you hate it? He got off the bench. yeah star and He got a bit of a chucker streak in him. Like, I mean, I mean, it could get real, it could get real buddy Hildish if he's not, if he's not hitting his shot. So you can get real buddy Hildish. Last name for me. The return of Markel Foltz. OK, I'm not really. OK, of the fake reunion tours that's going around on Twitter, allegedly. Oh, my god. The Dario, the bring back Dario. Not mad at that one, actually. The bring back Foltz. I'm not mad at that one. And the bring back he who shall not be named. You can say his name, because I feel like we're growing out here. We've gone past it. You can say his name. Yeah, there's the other guy name we can't name.
00:20:21
Speaker
ah Yeah, Detroit man. There's a, you know, to bring back Ben Simmons. Oh, gross. Nevermind. I don't like saying the name. Nevermind. No gross. It just, it just feels nasty even thinking about the fact that we would want him back. Fans want him back. Why? Why not? Because I say this, I've said this before. There is a thin, thin line between love and hate. I just feel like it's the definition. I think I think there is some people who are who hate who love to be miserable love Who love the emotional torture the bitterness the anger? from the sixes There is a correlation Please anybody listening, please feel free to write a thesis on this because I don't really want to but I could if I had to
00:21:19
Speaker
There is a correlation between masochism and being a sexist. There is a correlation. jesus i think I think we enjoy this. I think we enjoy this turmoil. I think we enjoy it. That's really where my clippers parallel come from, too. Enjoy this hell. I just want to like also, how do they expect us to get Ben Simmons back? Did they not know he's making 40 million this last season? This is his last season under his deal. This is 40 mil. This is what the premise that the Nets will buy him out, which is.
00:21:55
Speaker
We will pay you to not be here because we think that is a little of you. Yeah. But what buyer are they even giving him? He's not taking less than at least $30 million off a buyout. $40 billion? um I'm not taking anything less than $40 million. You were going to get paid $40 billion this last year. You're never going to see that much money. You know how much new outfits he can wear on the bench with $40 million? Rich and him know he's not seeing $40 million again ever. I can't believe ever after what happened these past four years. Jared, could you imagine he come back to the sixes and somewhat rehab his value and leave? I can't imagine anything with him because right now he doesn't play. He doesn't play enough basketball. The argument is, oh, he's ah he's he could play on the wing, which he can't score. He's a power forward that can pass. That's the argument, right? He's a power forward he can pass. But like, that's not what you need anymore. Like, that's not what we need. Just bring back Sarg that if you want that.
00:22:55
Speaker
Amen. If you're going to go with any, I say bring back Cove, but. Probably can't pass though. But Cove's not a legitimate. I'd much rather have Cove than. But that was my, those two were my realistic guards, if not Larry. And I think we know Larry, we know it. And they were just waiting to give him the vet Midwest. We figure out the rest of the contract stuff with frequency. Well, we'll see. I will. I vote for more points on such equations. All right. Bring him back. Because we haven't not taken away his two way, but he's still on a two way. And he had never, he never got actual like deal, like,
00:23:38
Speaker
bri council What's up? All right, Jared. Let's pan, pan, pan over. Like, if you're looking, like, pan over, pan left, right, whatever. Stay with me. Oklahoma City, Jared, you touched on it earlier, but they signed Isaiah Hartenstein. They add a, another big to their lineup of veteran, ah still young, a young guy who's been around a little bit. $87 million deal. How does he fit with Chet, with SGA, with Williams, with OTC as a whole?
Oklahoma City's Roster and Strategy
00:24:13
Speaker
Starting center. Move Chet to the fore if you need to. And that's that's what you could do if you need to. you're now He's probably coming off the bench. But playoff-wise, you can really use him as a starting center. And that'll help you out tremendously, because that was the biggest issue, right? It was a vet big, either off the bench or as a starter with Chet, when they're playing these bigger West Biggs, like Chet was getting a little exposed.
00:24:34
Speaker
He's got to work on his body and himself when it comes to rebounding, but that's what you needed was a rebounding big and they got that. Yeah, I think they smashed him up from the next, but the next we had the money or the capabilities to get him supposedly. He could have stayed with the next, but when they got the kill bridges that great trade and they resigned OG to the little overpay hall that they did for OG. I like Eric since those didn't really fit anymore because they still have a Mitch. You still have a Randall. You had him. Where do you fit all these guys knowing that with the two names I just made in McHale Bridges and OG have to start? And then if Randall comes back, does Randall start to trade? like where Where does Randall fit in? He got to start. Right. So it's like, so a lot of moving parts and Mitch just the money probably wasn't there from him as much because now. OG just took a bag and it's plenty of time is going to see um a significant decrease. What's being honest, we're being honest, we're going to see a decrease when Randall and Mitch both return.
00:25:30
Speaker
So going to OKC was his best move, and I like it for him, to be honest. Young team, SGA is there. Going to feed him a lot. He just showcased that he can be a dominant big in this league, which we always thought was a little shaky. Nah, he he lot was a lot. It was more so he can he can score officially. Yeah. Because that's the thing. Because it's one thing to be a big seven footer who can grab a board. Like, OK, you can block a shot. OK, cool. You can't even score. I once thought he was Ennis Cannon, and he showed me more. He showed me more. I don't think that's it. I just thought he was a big deck of rebound. And that's what Ennis Cannon at first was a big deck of rebound, and then all of a sudden he had a bad post. I mean, Kenneth Cannon had a little bit of a jump shot, a little bit of a pull. Yeah, no, he had a bad goal. He used to play defense to save his life. Harrison can play defense. The hardest time to think of, he can play defense, the problem is his offensive game is not nearly as developed.
00:26:24
Speaker
for me man. I'm thinking god right that's the that's the thing is he he's he's shown an ability to score around the rim. He has a little bit of a touch. He has a you know, definitely a nose to the ball. He's a great rebound. The thing that separates you and and as a big and gets you paid like a top tier big is, can you score around the room effectively? Like he's, yeah would you say, so let me just ask, I'm gonna throw a couple of names out just to kind of see where you think he is. Balls on his list, I would say. Is he a better offensive scorer, player than Steven Adams? Yes. Is he a better,
00:27:05
Speaker
score around the rim offensively than Valachunas. No. OK. So he's somewhere between Steven Adams and Valachunas offensively. Yeah. Well, Valachunas, very good score. OK. Good rebounder. Can't play a look if you think pain defense, though. Not the greatest. They say he's good, but I've seen the numbers. His value as a plus-minus defender is not really great. He's not he's but he can rebound he can shoot and he can score it like Valetune's got a nice bag when it comes to his offense. Is he better? Overall as i so um I just asked offensively. So where is he overall? Is he better than Steven Adams? I think he's better than Steven Adams. Yes. Is he better than Valetunas? I think he's a tie.
00:27:54
Speaker
for what you would For what you would need, he's right around with valetunuses, which is why they both get paid around the same. Or he got paid a little bit more with valetunuses, obviously. But they're there. They're there. OKC probably maybe had going after valetunuses, but valetunuses, I'd rather he's going to Washington. but like Whatever was the case. Because I don't see why. Valetunuses, I don't know. Him going to the Wizards was like really weird and surprising and just dumb to me why Wizards even offered him a deal and why he went, knowing that there's other teams that wanted him. Lakers included, maybe OKC, but you want to go to a rebuilding team, full rebuilding team, that just drafted a big and outside. And now you're going to be starting over him until it's time for him to start by the middle of the season? i mean maybe I mean, I think when it comes down to things like that, those are there's outside factors. like
00:28:43
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe he likes the city. Maybe he just wants to get his bag. And that could have been the most money he was offered, to be honest. That could have got, yeah, it could have been the first deal. Could have been the first deal. Could have been the first deal. You know, we don't know the situation. But, like, I don't know. Yeah, his market. We don't know the interest he really had. Like, we're saying, like, Lakers maybe. Like, and there's a lot of, like, rumors and whatever. But who knows if they really are interested or not. Yeah, but in terms of value, I think him and Haristina are, like, right there. They're not. They're helping a team or they're helping a good playoff team, but they're just not. I'm not saying, oh yeah, they're going to be all world top 10. OK, so does this make them the best team in the West? No. Who's your best team in the West? Right now, I still think Minnesota might be the best team in the West. Minnesota is better than them, right? Dude, yeah, especially getting Rob Dillingham, too. OK, so they get Dillingham. Minnesota gets Dillingham.
00:29:38
Speaker
But what does Minnesota have that OKC now can match? They got the bigs now. That's fine. They got the bigs now. Two bigs. They got the two bigs. And I think Chet and Hartenstein can play on the floor together. Yes. The same way Go Bear and Towns can play on the floor together, because now you can let Chet roam the perimeter and let Hartenstein clean up in the middle. Yeah. you have the wings, okay, she has the wings, like they get ready to log jam. But do they have other wings better than the Timberwolves wings? I don't think so. I don't think so, but there're they have they have defenders. Their wings are great defenders, Caruso, Williams, Dort. Yeah. Like they got they got the guys that's going to be able to
00:30:28
Speaker
at least ah defensively, you can, that's, that's 6,000 between them three guys, the Edwards, Edwards and Daniels. You know what I'm saying? Between three guys, the same way we talk about other teams and how you defend a mismatch. OKC has tried to, they've built their team to beat Minnesota. Yeah. Cause they got switchable defenders now. They do. Exactly. And they have the perimeter, like, you know, Caruso can hit a shot, Williams in Brooklyn, he can hit a shot. SGA obviously can score. Chat can score. So you get someone like, and Hartnestine, who can do the the dirty work, who brings that yeah kind of mentality, hopefully he brings that mentality over from the mix. You know, if you're OKC, you want a little bit of that dirty, some of that little bit of that they're gritty yeah defender type of fire to compete with Minnesota, who, you know,
00:31:22
Speaker
is arguably the best team in the West. But you look at the Western Conference champion Mavericks, who then go out then go out and add Najee Marshall, Quentin Grums. And on top of that, you get Klay Thompson. Which is good for them. Getting Klay on that, and he got he took less to sign with the Mavs. That was crazy. and And part of his reason it was the state income tax, so he'll get more of the actual money. Smart. Which is which is smart. You get to live in Texas. fair And Dallas is a very, it's a nice place to live. Yeah, I've never been by her. Screw the Cowboys, but it's a great place nice place to live. I mean, every every no one's perfect, but you look you look at Kalei, he's able to get a fresh start without having to go through a rebuild. Yeah. Because it looks like Golden State's
00:32:12
Speaker
tearing that thing down. Like I don't, well i mean I don't know if they are able now, let's say if they're able to pull off a move because they were in on the Paul George thing and the Clippers didn't want to work with the Golden State. That's what that' argument they weren't. And if you're not willing to trade comminga, you're not it. So even though they keep trying to blame the Clippers for it, if you're not going to take comminga, you're not it. Like let's be for you're not it. Yeah, you got it. You got to give up some. Because I'm not let's Chris. Let's be free. You've talked about it is Moses Moody CP three and Wiggins in a first. Is that the needle mover for you? If you're the Clippers, what you're trying to get? Because even if we say Paul, there's only 34, you still played the most out of the entire Clippers last season. Now, let me know. Here's the thing, right? know i've I've always I've always been leery of making moves that make your competition better. Literally, that move makes one team better.
00:33:03
Speaker
That's it. And that's Golden State. it does not make It does not make the Clippers any better. Of all the players the Clippers are signed, let's be at it goes be honest, they're the same adequate of what Wiggins and Moses Moody would have been if you had just traded for them. Kevin Porter Jr. Right. Derek Jones Jr. um I'm missing like two names. Nick Batoonback. And I forgot who the last one is, but that's her. broke my heart to hear Nick. batoon going back because Yeah, but you brought those guys in. They're all going to be like 3 and D out guys for quiet and uh and and James and it's like that's the same thing as getting Wiggins in.
00:33:46
Speaker
um Mo's Moody's, I'm like, okay, you just signed these three guys for your little small rebuild that you're making, you know, your small shuffle. And you didn't have to, yeah, you lost PG for nothing, but like, let's be for real, you weren't gonna get much back from it if all they're offering you was Wigan CP3 in Mo's Moody. And that's like what the crux of it was. It looks like a lot of teams in the West, you mentioned this small rebuild. Another team in the West that's kind of getting squeezed by the new apron rules, What the Denver Nuggets might be? No, yeah, it's hard. but That's what we talked about though. Like two years ago we talked about it. They had the best 35 in the league. And then now it's the Celtics with self set. We don't care about second. apron they They just aren't. They've automatically come out and basically with all these extensions. They don't care about tax apron.
00:34:29
Speaker
um The Nuggets do because for them, death has been their biggest concern, post their championship. Even during the championship run, death was their concern, but they had more of it during the championship run. Last year, they didn't have it. This year, they still really don't have it. So you yeah, you had those KCP if you're trying to now get you some death. And losing KPC into the magic, crazy. Great for the Sixers, so then we could get Paul George because magic took himself out right away by getting KCP. But KCP, I think, was a better fit for them. in hindsight of what he does, which is three and D shoot the ball. He's a good vet. That's one championship. He knows how to do it. Do I still think they need guard play? Sure. But Suggs has really started to emerge as a starting point guard. KCP, Franz Wagner, Ben Caro, and then whoever they want to put at their starting center, whether it be, they just recently extended Jonathan Isaac or they could put Wendell Carter there, like whatever they want to do. And they brought back, gar harris yeah they got, they got, they got options. I think that they've,
00:35:29
Speaker
they've choked They've chosen Gary Harris over Markel Fulton, right? I think so, too. Because they got a log jam. It's kind of weird. they got They got a lot of wings. They got a lot of guards. Yeah, you had to make a decision. But they you mentioned got Wendell Carter, Betadze. Looks like they're going to move off of Mo Wagner. I would. you know if If you were a team looking for a backup big, I would not mind the flyer on Mo Wagner. No so Lakers Lakers a team. I just thought of this and probably could use the move on there. Yeah, I would consider him while I would let Jackson Hayes go if I can get him a walk there. I'm not if I can move on there tonight. I didn't get all Jackson Hayes contract in whatever way I could. I will try and fire for my Wagner. But they got Franz Wagner. They have Ben Caro. They're a team in the
Evaluating Orlando Magic's Potential
00:36:20
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East. Now I think is you have to put him right there with Milwaukee and
00:36:27
Speaker
right between Milwaukee and and and I think they're in six or territory. I think the Sixers are lucky to be in Orlando territory right now. Lucky. All right. Okay. Let me stop being dramatic. But this like Orlando, I think is right in the upper echelon of teams. They're top four seed. They're better than Cleveland. Like I know sha they're better than Cleveland. They just gave a Donovan extension. I think they're better than Indiana. Whoa. And do you know how I feel about Indiana. I think Orlando's better than Indiana.
00:37:03
Speaker
Especially now with Casey. Because that solves one of their biggest issues is spacing the floor. Now you can hunt Ben Caro, you know, if you want to be in the mid range, Dunkerspot, wherever the case may be, he can now utilize more of his talent around this floor. Flodner can contribute now with better spacing. Gary Harris can You know, Gary Harris or Suggs or whoever can be that extra guard out there with KCP. Especially, imagine you have Suggs and KCP on the floor at one time. They are. They're going to start. Like that's- That's a point. They have to. That's, that's, that's, I think they are too. But that's two great defenders, great long ball defenders. Yeah. Who can hit, who can hit shots from, from the perimeter.
00:37:51
Speaker
who can facilitate, can make the right pass. I'm not saying KCP got to be the main ball here. No, he's not going to be doing that. He's a catcher. I mean, he can facilitate if he can make the pass, whatever the KCP. But it's a very similar situation with him, also. Because Denver's kind of set up. Orlando has the structure. But they need to fill out the foundation. And Denver is now all trying to get Russell Westbrook. OK, that's cool. I mean, I think you're right on Gary Harris being the move instead of faults. Obviously, KCP yet again is taking a job from Gary Harris. Gary Harris was just starting to guard, lost a job again to KCP. KCP loves it. I think every time he sees where Gary Harris goes, he's like, let me watch out. I could go take his spot. That looks good. That looks good. I can do that. I can do what you did. He did it on the chip with the Nuggets. Now he's like, I can go do this again with the magic potentially. Your spot's mine again. And this is what's happened. You now get moved down.
00:38:45
Speaker
Um, especially when like the log jam at guard for magic was just like disgusting last season. It was gross. And now it's, it's better. You you got three guys. one They went, they went from a log jam at and ah and a big spot because they had, yeah, four days on time. I think they, one time they had Wendell Carter, Gogu Bataze, Mo Wagner and Mo Bamba. Yeah, they did. Before that, before Bataze, I think they had bull, bull. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they had him too. Like, yeah that's a lot. And then, shout-out to Isaac, you know, like, I didn't even know. It's going to have a center at this point, too. I can see him in there. Pretty much an undersized five, but he's like a stretch four or five kind of piece. Yeah. Whatever. To a whole bunch of guards. For no reason. For a whole bunch of guys. Who was it? It's Koggs, Anthony Foltz, Michael Carter Williams, Gary Harris, and then they drafted Anthony Black. Then they drafted Anthony Black.
00:39:44
Speaker
Dude, like what? All the wings they got. Yeah, it was it was all the way and they drafted you Howard. Yeah, they ah forgot they just got himself. Yeah. So yeah, like, Oh, God, you got to start making decisions and guys got to go. Listen, OK. OK. So you got the assets and Orlando got the pieces put together. You have a super one together. You could be Boston or try to try to. Um, Let's continue on with moves in around the Western Conference. New Orleans acquired Dejante Murray. Like that a lot. For nothing, essentially. For nothing. who I didn't think, I didn't think this, I thought Dejante's value was a little higher, but. I thought so as well. but how How does this move up New Orleans? Defense at the guard position, which they severely lacked.
00:40:40
Speaker
And a playmaker, a playmaking that's actually a point guard playmaker, right? You don't want to see me call them, see me call them can play make, but there's a difference between a guy that can play make and an actual playmaker. Not see my eyes and acts of playmaker. Yeah, I can score the ball too. Very good defensively. Move CJ back to the two. So now you can go back to just chucking his shots and then playmaking when he asked to, when they sit. And then you have Herb Jones. You still got Brandon Ingram. You still got Zion who, I don't know what they're gonna do at the five spot, obviously, but they got to figure that out. But if they move, Brand Ingram, they keep them, but they got to figure something out. But you still have some depth still. No starting center to speak of, but I like the Johnson and Murray move. I just don't know, are they running Zion as a small ball five? I don't think they are, but it's like, what do you do right now? What was in your starting center? I mean, they still got to figure out.
00:41:29
Speaker
What assets they may or may not be able to get from Brandon Ingram making a sign and trade? Are they moving him, though, is my question. Because at this point, he has a whole bunch of speculation, but not any traction. Because Lori Market has now become the forefront of everybody's lore. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Kings. If there's a team, so you say New Orleans needs a big. New Orleans needs somebody to plug in that five spot. Yeah. Would you rather play Zion as an undersized five Or would you try to go get like a traditional five? I would try a traditional five Zion. It's too much of a workload for him to be undersized five. It's too much of a workload. Alright, that's fine. That's that's that's fair. So who's? I mean, you want to talk about positional scarcity. Oh dude, where where is the big that's that can help the world? This proves my point about there's literally guys are named top 10 bigs because there's really no bigs in the NBA. yeah So let me hear a lot I think your bigs argument is my NFL quarterback.
00:42:30
Speaker
But which is fine, but but but which is fine, but vastly different because quarterbacks, the one of the more valuable positions and there's not even that valuable anymore. But yeah okay you want to talk about centers being valuable. Two centers is just one MVPs recently. Yeah, they're the corners. You know, you could they at least you're just proven and and being the revenue season as proof that you can run your offense and run through a big. You need to drop off, but the quarterback, nation you need a good quarterback. You're getting away with mediocre at this point in the NBA. Well, okay. What good team is getting with mediocre big man? The mask. They have two mediocre ish bigs, but they got away with it because these guys aren't, they ain't no coaches, but they mediocre. I think you understand.
00:43:17
Speaker
That what are they what are we saying? they're They're good. They're really good. They're not really good. Average a mediocre is the same thing in my opinion. It's the same word. Just sit in it. Okay, mediocre mediocre sound like like let's be let's be not not as But if these guys are in the 2010s, they're not even in the top 20 of centers or they over the bottom 20 Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. There's a bottom If if you're if so your argument is that there's a drop there was a huge amount of centers from this now There aren't because everybody's trying to be wings guards, you know, you gotta be shootable bits just out is In this league let's be but okay. So let me ask so let me ask you this because you said New Orleans D is a traditional center.
00:43:59
Speaker
Not even just yeah give me. Yeah, I need a bigger center. I need back what you have with Val, but he got to be. Oh, he got to be a room protector. He asked it. So who's who? Nobody. Come on, Looney. He ain't big. He's six, eight, six nine. Yeah, they ain't going to work for me. That is not. I mean, but Looney, I mean, but Looney can do it and you allow Zion to still know that I have to not not do it, which works for me, but it's just not. It's easy to go get a backup big than it is to go to the starting club or big. cause There are any. There aren't any in that view. All right. If you're, okay. If you're new Orleans, if you're new Orleans, you try to go close Chicago and try to get loose a bitch. No, he can't even, he can't really protect the save his life. I mean, but he's bet. I mean, I'm just trying to name options here. If I'm the pelicans, Nope. Cause he can't make the money work. Dang. I had a name. Now I'm off the name. Sorry. What was the name? DeAndre. I don't think Portland want to move. But I think down there he fits.
00:44:58
Speaker
Okay, well, so and I'm not eating.
00:45:06
Speaker
go I mean, bru lopez worked but he's any room protection shoot still. So he doesn't voucher it does, but at a higher quit. He does. Okay. But what do you give up to get? I mean, you always have to give up. I gotta to give up a lot. You really should, right? Like at this point, you know, but I mean, so that, but this is the mind that Milwaukee wants to move off of Lopez and wants to move off. I don't think they are in it, but they should start considering it, but I don't think they will right away. Um, Milwaukee is kind of in a similar situation as Philadelphia. What I talked about earlier about meeting, you know, management thoughts.
00:45:42
Speaker
We said Robert Lopez, Robert Williams, Robert Williams. He's played, he's coming off the injury from the trailblazers. He's literally a rim protecting big. Put him next to his iron. I think it's fine. He can't shoot, but you don't worry. I don't think you need, I don't think for the pelicans case, they need a shooting big. They need a rebounding rim protecting big because they had no pain defense last season when it came. Okay. But but here's, here's the thing. Is this and including Ingram being there?
00:46:09
Speaker
Yeah, I'm still i'm still adding Ingram in. So i'm move I would do Dejante, CJ, Ingram, Zion, Rod. I don't think, I don't i mean, I don't think. Right now, I don't know what traction Ingram has for me to go and say, oh, he's he's gone right now. So I'm just throwing out a name where he's still in the mix. And if he's not in the mix, Trey Murphy just fills that spot and you still have Robert Williams. Okay. And Robert Williams is what? Week finisher around the room, which we talked about in here. He can still finish around the room, but he's a very good rim protector. Yeah, I think he'll provide some room presence. I mean, the but that's the problem with New Orleans. You're going to have that that that bugaboo because Zion can't stay healthy. Yeah, which is why he can't play snowball fight. But you can't. I mean, will Dajante and CJ work?
00:46:52
Speaker
In theory. I mean, but we say the same name dam the cj worked and de john is about a defender than dame just not we said the same thing about and about Dajante and Trey, maybe. i I thought it did. I thought it was the work. Maybe Dejante, it needs to be. He needs to be a party ball handler, which works for him more because CJ's not a party ball handler guy. He's not. He's not. We just saw it. We just saw it. He's just not. I don't care if he thinks he is present in basketball. oh Sure, let's be delusional, but you're not. You're you're a catch-and-shoot guy in this point in your career. yeah You can put the ball down a little bit, get your floaters off, get a couple of middies, but I don't need to see you with the most touches on the team or hand on the ball the most. We shouldn't see it anymore. We really should. I'd much rather Ingram, Zion, or Dejante touch the ball as much as they should before I let CJ McCollum hold the ball for 20 seconds of a shot clock. All right. this this Just CJ McCollum, this,
00:47:42
Speaker
It's not even this though, cause I like CJ McComb. I just know we've, he knew and we knew when the trade occurred for this them to get him, him being a start pro was going to be ah a tall task and it was a tall task. Like he was getting out assisted by his small forward and in wing power forward come last season. They were averaging more system at one point because it was hard for him. His playmaking just wasn't that, like he can make a good pass, but he could not facilitate an ah offense as well as he needed to. Cause he still had to get his own shots off.
00:48:14
Speaker
That's why Dejante is there. They just need to get a traditional bid. Let me give you a list, Chris.
Scarcity of NBA Centers and Draft Impacts
00:48:20
Speaker
I'm just going to give you a list. OK. Nicole Jokic, Joalim B, Demonta Sabonis, Bam Adebayo, Miles Turner, Victor Amayama, Vusevic, Rudy Gobert, Nick Claxton, DeAndre Aina, your top 10. Is Nick Claxton still in fruition? He got extended to the Nets. Those were your top 10 centers in the NBA right now. That's the list. Of those top 10 guys that just named, let's be for real. Some of them are top 10. They shouldn't eat. They would never sniff top 10. This was earlier in the NBA lifestyle that we watched.
00:49:01
Speaker
Like, let's be for real, I don't know if I'm saying Nick Quaxon is better than a petrovic from the Tim rules back then. I don't know if I'm saying that dude. I don't know if I'm saying, and this is this isn't to be mean, this isn't, but I don't know if I'm saying, DeAndre Ayton is vastly better than the Machine Gortat. And these are names that we had at starting centers that was fighting to compete with other starting centers that were walking double, double starting centers. They were like, yo, Machine Gortat didn't fight. Give me another one, Jared. Give me another one, Jared. I don't understand the like the n b the NBA scarcity at the big man spot. It's it's <unk> truly a part. It really is.
00:49:45
Speaker
We will do a whole pot next week about how Jerry, the evaluation is big. It's bad, dude. Like, let me, come on, Chris, I got nothing left for you. I don't know if i'm if I'm really making the argument. Yeah, Rudy Gobert, he's a great defender. Great. But is it is is he much better than Tyson Chandler? Tyson Chandler! Tyson Chandler got a ring, too, with the Mavs. Tyson Chandler and was fine. Tyson Chandler and the Suns was good. He much better than Tyson Chandler. And Tyson Chandler was top big back in the day. Is he better than him? Like are we make it defensively, I guess you could say that, but like, are we like, are we really doing that? Like, I don't know, man. Hey, I agree with your point. I agree with your point. Are we saying he's Ben Wallace? Are we saying he's bands better than Ben Wallace? Really?
00:50:33
Speaker
Really? A 6'9 center that they're now considering, that he are finally now considering moving him to the fore spot. Because they realize that he's undersized when it comes to basing these true bigs. And I'm not saying true bigs, and they're like, oh, these guys are legit backing him down. No, but they're forespacing him to the point where they're they're taller. And they're for Kristoff Prezingis in all these centers that are 7 foot plus. or killing him when he has to now step outside and he could guard perimeter defense. But now he got to go back in and try and get a rebound too. He can't do it all. He's a four. He's a four so walking four point center. Jared, last move we're going to talk about in depth. Let's talk about Chris Paul going to the Spurs. I like it. Gibson Benyama, a primary ball handler, veteran, a coach on the floor, basically a second coach. Yeah.
00:51:22
Speaker
a very young team in in San Antonio. What do you like that movie? I like it. Um. My question would just be like, are they trying to win? Because this is real 5050 on that. I hear they're going into Lori, which is why I asked question. are They trying to win because they get Lori. You're you're back in a wind down mode. CP doesn't move a needle for a wind down over me. Just you get a veteran pet. oh yeah He's a he's a veteran. He's a better starting veteran. He can help both. Trey Jones and ah the Von Castle Steven Castle. help mold him and develop him the same way he did with Shay and any other guards that he's played with. This really just reminds me of OKC Chris Paul. I don't know if he's going to start or not, but he'll see quality minutes. Victor gets a true point guard that gets to show him the game as well through his eyes and how he sees the court as a point guard and playmaking point guard. Because that's what, what I mean, I'm going to miss a lot last season was a good playmaker. He missed it a lot.
00:52:16
Speaker
So now he gets that. I think it was a smart sign. It's just a very smart sign, especially for how he's still getting paid upwards of 10 million. Crazy to me. A couple of moves we want to just kind of briefly touch on. I mistakenly said that the Magic were not bringing back Mo Bobner. They are getting a two year, $22 million deal. Oh. um
00:52:39
Speaker
Mo Bamba has signed the clippers. Fine. that's not a horrible move because I probably love the other name the other name that you were I believe that you were blanking on earlier was Chris Dunn that's who was yeah good backup pointer so a couple other moves here we mentioned that uh the Hall of Fame Swindler Tobias Harris goes to Detroit shout out to Tobias Harris the Kirk Cousins of the NBA
00:53:10
Speaker
child to his dad, dude, he gets I mean, listen, father of the year, literally, uh, James Wiseman back up big to Miles Turner now in Indiana. I like that because they lost Jalen Smith. I like that. Kyle Anderson, uh, goes to Golden State. Questionable. I think it You replaced the Dario. You kind of give him on that second unit. Yeah, you brought him in because you're trying to make that all-in move for Rory. You have to. Yeah, you got to have residual pieces just in case. I like the melting move too. He just can't start. Yeah, the Anthony Melton. Very good. But he's a very buddy heel. They're bringing in. Melton got to win with back issues, though. They're bringing in the facility. They're like, they got the. The compete players, well, they need to get the compete guys. The sides. They got the sides. They're making the sides.
00:54:01
Speaker
know Curry and Draymond is this the main course. um Alex Burks to Miami. overing yes Joe Ingalls to Minnesota. oh okay sure And the Lakers made a move and today. to give a two-year, $105 million no trade clause having contract. They needed no trade clause for this guy? To LeBron James Sr. So they were considering trading it. Huh. Interesting. Oh. That's interesting. You had to fight for a no trade clause? OK. Sure. He joins your boy Bradley Beal as the only two NBA guys with a. Oh, I forgot Bill has a no trade clause. Without a no trade clause. We don't need it one, though. Like, we don't need it one.
00:54:51
Speaker
without consultation. They were broad, needed no trade clause. Like what Zaliga is really ever going to consider trading him anyway without his opinion, his for say, his G.M. mind in the trade. You never know. Pay cut, huh, Chris? Pay cut, right? That's what we saw. That was the word of the day. It went from pay cut to the max with a no trade clause. That's not like a pay cut to me. That's not like a pay cut to me, guy. I don't know. Pay cut. This man took a pay cut and got more money. Pay cut. I need a pay cut immediately. What are we going to do? No longer ask for raises. I ask for pay cuts. And then we'll see where the money talks. Listen, Jeanie Bus, I need a pay cut. Fire me. Fire me. She pays you more.
00:55:41
Speaker
We didn't even discuss the Lakers, but it's like they missed out a lot of this fantasy. What do we need to discuss? They've done nothing. Oh, wait. They drafted LeBron James Jr. Yeah. Four-year guarantee deal, 7.9 million. Guaranteed for the 55th overall pick. J.J. Rex head coach locked in. Yes. Maybe they get the Rosen. We haven't talked about the Rosen. Is there any way this ends any way other than that?
00:56:12
Speaker
When they get the rose and they can do something, they can make sunshake. What's going on with Zach Levine too? was like you see like Can Lakers not get him? like At this point, I take him. You lost out on Clay. You with Don Valentrunes. Couldn't get James. like All the three names that LeBron said, I'll take a pay cut for. You caught Clay at 6, what, PM, Eastern time, 3 PM, West Coast time, then get Clay. And he was like, yeah, man, I can't i don't want to go to the Lakers. And it feels like it's the same conducive system I just left. Well, you're not wrong. So now what? I would consider Zach Levine or DeRozan if they're both available, obviously. So I would consider them both. I think you've got to get something. I know they brought deals, re-signed, and said, I'm here to work hard. And I think Jay, they're ready to come. Come on. You signed in because you earned the money. And they're going to probably move off you now or trade deadline. I don't know. Lakers are in a horrible bind because the U.S. is getting better. And now they're in the, what, Clippers territory? I think they're evenly. No, they're way worse than the Clippers.
00:57:09
Speaker
yeah Really? Even with this Kuber's revamped roster? Way worse. Way worse. And their son's competitive. Son's warrior's competitive. I don't think they're as good as the son's. Well, I like when it sounds like retooled this roster a little bit. They still need a guard, which is why I think, oh, they got Monty Morris. So yeah, I like it. They got Monty Morris. They got Miles Pumley. Miles Pumley. Yeah, I like it. They got Miles Pumley or Mason Pumley? Mason. OK. Does Miles Pumley still play basketball? Overseas somewhere. Yeah, he's here. All right. but Where is Marshall Pumley? I don't know. I don't know what he does. What? Really? I don't know. It could be. I don't even know what his degree was in. What do you go after in school? I don't know. I can't tell you. What fathom a career that he actually has? I don't know. All right. Gynecologists? What? Who knows what he is? Oh my god. It's going to be awesome. All right.
00:58:08
Speaker
Jared, let's talk about the draft real quick.
00:58:14
Speaker
All right, thank y'all. It wasn't much else to say about the draft. Listen, i didn I didn't hate it. Zachary Rees-Ache goes one. Alex Sarr goes two. Figured. The board was weird for me. Everything else kind of went to shambles after that. Everybody, you know, Dylan Hamill down there. Boy, yeah. Ree Shepherd. Rob Dunning, Rob Dillingham to the, like, that was a good move to, to the Timberwolves. Jared McCain to Sixers. I don't know if I hate it or whatever. Yeah. I got to see him play. I mean, a guy that shoots 41 and a half percent from three in college is tremendous. Cause that's not- With a guy that they show TikToks first, it's the basketball highlights. Gives me- Pause. pause. Gives me cause gives me concern. But- Gives me flashbacks of same old Sixers. But maybe he'll grow in us. I don't know. Um, I don't, like, I don't know what the, what the trailways is getting. Uh,
00:59:08
Speaker
Cooking in, knowing that they have all these, like another team with a wall jam of bigs for being honest. ah Zach E to the Grizzlies. A lot of people hate it. I liked it. I did. I don't know why you really hate on the move, but I liked it. I think it fits with their team and what they're trying to do. I like the move. No. Dalton Schultz fell to Lakers. That's actually not a bad move, if we're being honest. Dalton, can connote conno I said Schultz, and I'm sorry. You said, OK, first of all, alright pause. You said Dalton Schultz, who tied in in the NFL, instead of Dalton Connect. Connect. Yeah, Connect 4. My bad. Connect 4 went to the Lakers. I like the move. Should he have been a sixer?
00:59:47
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questionable. Uh but here you go. Dude, he was there at sixteen. He was there. I'm just like, they took Tiktok man. Alright. Hey, he can shoot though. Like, they both are good shooters. I just, I just, I don't know. We'll, we'll see how it goes but connect four is there at pick sixteen and you don't take that. I will see how it plays out. Thank you all for listening to another episode of Straight to the Point. If you like what you hear, make sure you telephone the telephone to tune in. We're still a five star rated podcast on iTunes. So if you like what you've heard, make sure you leave us a review. Make sure you follow me on all your so favorite socials at underscore Chris Cross. Thank you for having me at underscore JW Hughes. Check out the Twitter, check out TikTok. ah Man, I had another name for you, Chris, a center that I'm like,
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Let's be for a 70 centers better than him. Joe Keene Noah. Can we name some of the top 10 bigs I gave you that are better than Joe Keene Noah? That dude was a monster at one point. He was good. They both could not really be great offensively. Joe Keene Noah with his infamous inability to shoot freedoms. he was a great good defender. He helped that ball. Very good defender. I shoot. I'm just saying the the the the stretch of big like at this point in me to me, Nicole boosted it like a the gosh to me and we're saying that's top ten. That's what we say. That was and um jar I don't know what language you just spoke.
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stay a talk It just like you just hopped a loogie on the microphone. But you know a player I just named. Say it again. What's his name? um Who? You remember who that is? From the Cavalier name. You're talking about Sintrudis Oghauskas. This man just said Oghauska, bitch. Same thing. did They say players. They know he knew who he was. What? Dude shot at three, got a rebound. That's it. That's that's who O'Brien said. All right. Everybody's on the team, man. That was the guy. That was Nicole Woosovic. ah go gonna yeah what is up with you man
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baby maybe glad of profession
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We've seen every media member get the days wrong some of these names is ah and just is just as embarrassing cause does could be straight to the