MVP Race Analysis: Shai vs. Jokic
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You know they want a steering point, you know we straight to the point Boy Chris with assist, fast breaks like a joint splaring hair Boy J with a J, we throwing heat, no gas, that's a touchdown pass You know just how we coming, so it's nothing left to say Now they hardly can guard me like Dirk fade away You know just how we coming, so it's nothing left to say Yeah, you know just how we coming, so it's nothing left to say They want a steering point, you know we straight to the point They want steering point, you know we straight to the point They want a steering point, you know we straight
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straight to the point my name is chris here my guy jdub what up what up what up what up it's been a minute it's been a minute we're gonna talk the pistons how they be scrapping We're going to talk about the downfall of the Knicks, but Jared, let's start in the Western Conference with two of the top MVP candidates, the number one seed Oklahoma City Thunder, led by Shea Gilgis Alexander, and the Denver Nuggets, led by everyone's perennial MVP favorite all the time, Nikola Jokic.
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But Jared, last time we talked, we said undoubtedly the SGA was the MVP. But with Jokic's performances, including a 60-point triple-double, Has the tide turned?
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And now is Jokic your MVP favorite? No, it's still shy. Jokic lost. Yeah, 60-point triple-double in a loss. Like, that's cool. You you lost, though. And then I'm tired of the award always going to him for a guy like, yeah, he does it all. But unless they decide, and i don't even agree with this, they want to do like, the co-MVP thing, which I hope they don't do. I don't like it. i don't like anything co.
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What Shai has done this season has been remarkable. Yeah, the free throw baiting is what it is, but the same way Jalen Brunson did last year in the playoffs, shots get into the line now this year. like It's going to happen.
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What Jokic does hasn't been any different in the last two seasons. um like I'm being honest with you. So unless they wanted to revoke the one from last year and give it to him this year, he's a walking triple-double. He's a guy that can give you on a – 61 is great.
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I didn't know he had that offensive prowess in him because let's be for real. There are some nights where he'll give you 30 on a good one, and then most of the time he's not even really pushing the score. That's just not who he is. So 61 was great in a loss.
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But like it's not when I watch the games, I'm not seeing anything that he does anything like different. I'm just seeing some really remarkable passes, good offensive rebounding and defensive rebounding, and just good offense. like he's just He's a good basketball player. When I watch Shai play – Shy, when that Thunder team, if you take him off that Thunder team, they're not. I can fully say now they're going to be a good team, but they're not a great team without Shy there.
Aesthetic Appeal in Basketball: Jokic vs. Edwards
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like And that's the difference right now when it comes to why i think he's MVP. This team's not a number one seed without him there. And that's just a point blank period. I think ah you mentioned the fact that he lost in that triple-double, right? I watched that game, and he was fantastic.
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But I think a lot of Jokic's downfall is because the numbers don't match visually. Like, it's not, it's not like flashy.
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He's not a flashy guy. He's, he's making the right passes. Like people are in awe of what he's doing, like passing wise, but he's a, you know, like he, he'll go get boards. He'll score. Like, yes, he can score, but it doesn't look appealing. And I think a lot of the times we're visual beings, especially with the NBA. We always talk about the face of the NBA, who the face of the NBA,
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that game that they played against Minnesota, the star of that game was Anthony Edwards. He was the one that you came away looking like, yo, like this dude is amazing.
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He had, I believe 37, but the lion's share of his ah takeover basically was the fourth quarter and both the overtimes.
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And in that fourth quarter and both the overtimes, Jokic pretty much was a non-factor. Yeah. Like, yeah, he he had a couple he had ah he had a couple of points, but it wasn't like anything you saw in those first three quarters.
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Anthony Edwards was the one who took over that game and stole that game for Minnesota. So, but Jokic, nine times out of ten, is always going to be out there.
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starred, I guess, like if you're looking from a purely aesthetic point of view, whenever he's played against, I know people don't want to hear this, but whenever he's played against Embiid, Embiid's cooking him.
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Whenever he's playing against, you know, AD, AD's putting up crazy numbers, whether whether or not the team wins or not, but AD's up his numbers. He plays against any star,
Shai's Impact on OKC vs. Jokic's Role in Denver
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throughout the league, like it's always the other guy you're more impressed with, not necessarily Jokic. Now his numbers are great. Let's let me not even go into like, Oh, his numbers aren't what they are. His numbers are great.
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It's the fact that he, as a player, his play style isn't super aesthetically pleasing. So I think that you kind of get this, pushback from people, whether they're Jokic fans or not, because there's a lot of Jokic detractors.
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You know, they may not be as vocal, because what the hell are you going to say against a guy who has a 60-point triple-double and is a multiple-time MVP and has a title? Like, what can you say? but would be crazy i mean, that's crazy.
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But that's what I'm saying. Like, that's a that's a resume for... That's a legendary resume, but like you look at him and you just kind of Like you kind of come away underwhelmed at times. And I think that his lack of his lack of athleticism is he's real sometime me on defense. And it's most times he ain't really contributing on the defensive end.
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I think that takes away in the long run from his overall greatness. Now he's a offensive weapon that, you know, he's up there with the elite big men of all time.
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But I think defensively and the other characteristics of his game, especially now when you're saying, you know, you got a guy in SGA whose team is 12 games ah above the number two seed in the West.
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In the West, they're 12 games up. he's He's undoubtedly the best player on the best team.
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And if you take SGA off of OKC, where the hell are they? I don't think they're one. I don't think they're two, three, four, five, six, seven, or eight. So... we you know like We're talking about this most valuable player.
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Denver's, what, four? Yeah. And by the end of the season, they could end up, you know, the West is so tight, they could be seven, eight, and end playing. so yeah That's my issue there. It's the argument you can, like, the argument for SGN, if you take them all off the team, what are they doing?
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I think the Nuggets still playoff team without Jokic. They're just not as great without Jokic. I think without
High-Scoring Game Performances: Shai vs. Jokic
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Shai, I don't see it as a playoff team. I don't know if they're a playing team okay they're there They're the Miami Heat. But that's the point.
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I don't think. without dude. Portland Blazers. Portland Blazers. Yeah, team. He took 19. made 19 free throws out of 24 attempts, I believe.
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awesome nineteen of those points or free throws he took nineteen he made nineteen freedom at a twenty four attempts i believe Right now, Yogi's averaging a triple-double for the season. I think it's 29.3, highly scoring the NBA, 10 assists or 10.8 assists, 11 assists, 12 rebounds.
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That's phenomenal. This is third time averaging triple-double throughout the regular season. Shy is yet again the leading scorer in the NBA at 33 points a game. He's upped his assists at 6.5, so almost 7 assists a game, and he's at and now averaging 6 rebounds.
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For a 6'6 point guard to average 7 assists, 6 rebounds, and 33 points a game at the number one leading scorer, I think that really speaks volumes to like, when are we going to start stopping trying to detract from how good Shai is for how great Jokic is? That's what they're really trying to argue is like, oh, Jokic is that greater than everybody else, that he's the number one best play in the league. And you can be that, but the MVP is with the most valuable player for your team. like That's what the MVP is. You're the most valuable player in the league. oh you're in the league And Shai right now has been the most valuable player in the league. He's the most valuable player in the league. like what you mentioned about how in that game, it was it that really was the up-and-coming. Like, he, from the fourth, and I watched game, from the fourth quarter to overtime, it was him.
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Jokic had his moments, but Jokic was like, that's where the assists started coming in more. If you look at the assist, the turnover ratio that he had in that fourth overtime, a lot of his assists came from that fourth quarter overtime because now they're trapping him more. They can't foul him anymore because at this point he's already taking his 15th free. We have a different conversation. If they win that game, the Westbrook don't blow that layup. think I still would argue that Shai is the MVP, but I'm like, man, that was such a great performance. Rush is like, but Russ blowing that layup is like,
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It happens. Now, I ever think Russ would be a guy to smoke a layup? No. But then again... I don't see that. But when I watch Ant go off, I'm like, this is what I was expecting from Ant all season. This is why you're now up to your fourth baby mama. Like, this is the Ant we know. Whoa, whoa. What's that got to do with anything?
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Because when you watch greatness like that, somebody's going want to put out for greatness. Like, they're going to want to be a part of that lifestyle. and yeah Are you spelling greatness with two dollar signs at the end? Because that's what they... I digress, I digress, I digress. i'm just saying. hey and But hey, shout out to Ant because he's smart too. If the court lets him pay all 18 years up front child support. Come man. what what do you got We got this type of pod, man. We is now because that's a genius move, G. Nobody ever thought about that before except for him. I'm sure people have thought about it. I don't think people have been willing to pay that lump sum except for him.
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but we But we digress. They got it. But watching these games, and I'm not even just speaking on and the totality of these games recently. like Just watching the game recently, leading up to the end of the season has been way better than the beginning in the middle of the season, right? like Now that so many teams are really close and congested for the playoff spot, not named OKC or Cleveland Cavaliers, right?
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you're now what You're seeing way better basketball in these last 12 games. I think there's only six games left in the season. These last 12 games, and you've seen way after the all-star break. And I say this because now that it's too close where normally we around this time, guys are resting, right? Or but again, this is one thing where you could say the play has had a better effect for basketball. It's like guys now can't really rest the way they want to rest, right? The last 10 to 12 of the season. When they hit that 70-game stretch, they're kind of resting their guys the last 12.
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They can't do it because it's so close. Looking at every game that the Nuggets and the Thunder have to play, guys are starting. like The Nuggets just lost back-to-back. They lost the Timberwolves game, and then they literally just lost to the Spurs. those arent things like That's not an MVP type of thing, especially if you're just coming off a 61-point performance. Yeah,
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you You do that and you lost. So now the next game you have to either, you're not going to drop 61 again, unless like they the de defense just allows it, but you should be getting another triple double and winning, or you should be winning games. if you're supposed to be the most valuable player your team, it hasn't happened in the the game that they lost after that rush drop 30.
00:11:36
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So Russ made up for it, but they still lost. Whereas Shai,
Bradley Beal's Performance and the Suns' Dynamics
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they're not really losing enough games for me to come at them and say, oh, what happens in games that they lose? They're not losing. They're not losing. But it's because of his usage rate and his win-loss percentage right now so astronomically better than a lot of the other guys in the league.
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This season. I'm not going into career, but this season. Even if you want to make the statistical argument, right? SGA leads the league in points per game at 32.8, right? Yep. Jokic is third in points per game.
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Yep. Jokic is second in rebounds per game. Jokic is second for steals per game. SGA is... SGA is right behind him. Jokic is 1.8.
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Jokic is second in assists per game. Makes sense. But, you know, statistically speaking, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty neck and neck in most categories, right?
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But the thing that I would think SGA, you know, and it works in his favor, they're 12 games up on everybody in the West. Yeah. Come on, man. like and i this I just want to throw it out there.
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And don't give me the... Because then you get the then you get the argument, well, Westbrook was the sixth seed, and oh, this guy was the fourth seed. Yeah, that's where it's coming at. That's going to make up. That's what the argument will do next.
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But ah the comparables in that situation were closer. This guy has similar numbers, SGA, similar numbers, and way more team of success.
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Yes. Way more. So don't sit up here and tell me, oh, because Jokic could... If Jokic ended up being... If Denver ended up being a 7th seed in the play-in, you don't have an MVP argument out of me.
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You don't get it. like You're just giving it to based to him based on And don't give me this argument like, oh, his numbers are better now this season than last season.
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Because I thought we weren't taking other seasons into account when we talk about the MVP for this season. The MVP for this season is SGA. Now, want to make an argument, can talk about it.
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I'm not saying it's a hand down, you know, no conversation. But if you're asking me my vote, he's he's got my vote. And those are my reasons. I just know, like, again, what's going on this season?
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Jokic has had, I believe, two 50-point games this season. Shai's had about eight. In those games, Jokic is one
Team Construction Comparisons: Suns vs. Nets
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for two, obviously. In games, well, 50 or more, right, Chris? In games, 50 more, Jokic is one for two.
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61 versus Timberwolves lost. The one after that, i think he had 56 versus the Wizards won. Obviously, it's the Wizards. 56 against the Wizards.
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And won. I think that was the last 50-point game he this season currently. Before that, he had a 50-point game against Sacramento in 2021. That's 2021? Yeah, and then maybe, what, what another 50-game versus the Suns? he's had three games with 50 or more points.
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And then Shies, the season alone, has surpassed that. Out of those games, I believe Shies won a majority of them. were The most recent one I remember was the, I think, 52 versus the Rockets he had.
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He had 51 against the Rockets. And won, right? 50 against Phoenix. 52 against Colton State. And 54 against Utah.
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Were all those wins or he lost all I can tell you in a second. I know the Rockets won was a win. hundred percent 100%. I know he had so he scored 40 on the Nuggets.
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Won that game as well. Almost had 50 versus the Pistons. They beat the Rockets in that game, 137-128. They beat Phoenix, 140-109. Two for two. They lost to OKC, Okay, he's two for one.
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they lost the ok kc one ah nine one sixteen okay he's two for one and they beat Utah 123-114. So he's 3-for-1 in 50-point games. We didn't even talk about the 40-point games, but if you add the 40 wins in. um I'm pretty sure i'm just going to guesstimate.
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he's at He's got like a 12-and-3 record this season in 40-plus games and more win-losses.
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like Those are things where if we're going to – I feel like if they're going to nitpick Jokic, right, like the how why he's so good, why he's the best, they should nitpick why Shai's so great at winning basketball games with 40 more. like This is the complete opposite of how we used to argue about Bradley Beal being a guy that once he scored 40, it's a loss.
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Bradley Beal is the biggest 40-point loser in the NBA. This is the difference. Shai might be one of the greatest 40-point winners that we've seen in our lifetime. I just want to sidebar real quick since you mentioned Bradley Beal.
00:16:36
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Goddamn. How right was I? Like, how right was I? Now, i get talk I get talked about how my takes, you know, some of my takes aren't great. Accenture. You know, Homer takes or I'm ah a hater. Definitely biased.
00:16:50
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And all this other stuff. Real hater. But when I called Bradley Bill the biggest loser in the NBA, everybody looked at me like I was crazy. Then he gets traded to the Suns. Oh, the Suns are going to be great.
00:17:01
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You're just a hater. You're just a hater. Watch Bradley Bill. That man got benched, and they can't they can't even do the they can't even do what the Broncos did with Russell Wilson and pay him to leave.
00:17:14
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because he refuses to leave. Well, he's not even benched he' he's been specing this under line up He's been playing the past month and a half in starting lineup again. He's back. back. He's back to what?
00:17:25
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Starting. He's back to starting. So he's back to square one, which was stat pad, stat padder, stat padder, stat padder, not contributing to winning basketball. Is this what I'm hearing?
00:17:36
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No, I think he's just back to they essentially benched Tyus Jones, made Booker the point guard again, They has now – it's circulated.
00:17:47
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Ryan Dunn was a a starter at one point. isn was a Now it's Ryan Dunn. Bulbo was a starting power forward at one point. And now I think it's back to Dunn again. But, like, that's how it's been. I know KD's been out, so I don't know the small forward at this particular stage.
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It could be like they've been really like Boone Holy has been really interchanging the lineups. I'm going to be honest. Like at one point you'll see a Grayson Allen, Booker, Beal starting lineup. And I'm also going to name the three wings or you'll see a done Beal Booker lineup.
00:18:15
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Ty Jones has yet to really start up point at this point. point being, my point being, I was right. Yeah. This team is garbage. Like this is one of the worst constructed big threes I've ever seen. Wizards West.
00:18:27
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It's terrible. And
Western Conference Playoff Predictions
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this is like, no, not Wizards West. This big three is comparison to Brooklyn Nets. Not KD Brooklyn Nets.
00:18:39
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Darren Williams Brooklyn Nets. Ew. This looks like that. Ew. a Stop. I feel like that's... It does, though, but am I wrong? This looks like that. A team that we thought was going to good is That is disrespectful. That is so disrespectful. To who?
00:18:51
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To Kevin Durant and Kevin Booker. In what way? The team stinks. Paul Pierce was done. Heaven Garnett was most crazy. i didn't even See, that's the problem right there. I didn't even consider Paul Pierce in that big three, Chris. but now I was doing Derrick Williams, KG, Brooke Lopez.
00:19:13
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I didn't even think about Paul Pierce. Was Brooke Lopez even there still? Yeah, Brooke Lopez was there. He was their third best player, maybe second a best player. Is he not still the all time the Nets all-time leading scorer? ah He might still be. But also, shout out brook Chris, going to be honest with you too.
00:19:27
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Did he even consider Paul Pierce again? Because when I also was thinking about the the big three, I had also put down Darren Williams, KG, Joe Johnson. Paul Pierce was even an afterthought for me still. Paul Pierce was an afterthought.
00:19:40
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So, but but here's the thing though. Here's the thing though, right? Of those guys, which is hilarious. Which is hilarious to think about. Paul Pierce actually still had a couple of decent moments after the Brooklyn thing. KG was done.
00:19:52
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He called game versus the Wizards. He called game. It's cool. Yeah, he called. When Broussard asked if he called Bank and he was like, I called game. You know, shout out to Paul Pierce on that. And then don't forget when Draymond told him that, you know, they don't love him like that, which was awesome. My point being for the comparison.
00:20:07
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is it was an abundance of like, this is different than the nets where they got Kyrie, Katie, James Hart injury. This was an abundance of talent thrown together. The Brooklyn nets threw together a bunch of old head, good talents though. KG Brooke Lopez, Darren Williams, Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce and say, we're going to go win basketball games We're going make the playoffs and win.
00:20:26
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And they won basketball games. They made the playoffs and lost. This is the same argument that the Suns did, though. The Suns said, we're going to get together good basketball players. They got Devin Booker, who was already there.
00:20:37
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They brought in KD. they like They traded DeAndre and everything. They brought in Barley Beal. Then what did they start doing? They got a collection of older talent. They got Yusuf Nurkic. I have my mom, Grayson Allen, who's the youngest like player at the time.
00:20:52
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They brought in Royce O'Neal. They brought in... um Now it's gettingnna little younger. They brought in all these older vets and they lost. Then this season, they brought in Tyus Jones to help with the point guard mitigation.
00:21:05
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They traded use of energy to get in Nick Richards. They were like, we're trying to go younger instead of older. And it hasn't really helped because no offense any of them, but just because you keep adding more talent doesn't mean this team is going to be cohesively good. It's not.
00:21:17
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They fired the frank the first coach. They brought in Boone Hoser. Boone Hoser now has not one issue but two separate issues with KD and Devin Booker. At one point, KD's had to come out and say, hey, no, no, no, this is just what coaches and players do.
00:21:28
Speaker
The fact you already have to defend this tells me everything they know about this team. It's in the gutter. And they're talking about, oh, as long as they get playoffs, this is where we're going to see this team shine. This team is not shining in the playoffs. It's not. i It's really not trying to play. This might be another first-round answer for KD. This team's down there with Dallas, man. Dallas.
00:21:46
Speaker
Dallas is done. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm like, Kyrie's out for what? The majority of all next season, essentially? Kyrie tours ACL. He's probably not going to play next season.
00:21:58
Speaker
Yeah, more than likely. No, he'll return because ACLs don't last. and Like for basketball season, they don't last the entire year. He'll come back, what, around May? No. No, no, no, no.
00:22:09
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and Around now, April maybe? Let's say he comes back around April. There's how many games are left? He'll probably, what, play 10 games? 15, maybe. 15? If that, you're telling me, you think Dallas is going to be in and playoff contention next year with no Kyrie?
00:22:24
Speaker
No, and and I just want to throw this out there. The Suns right now aren't even in the playoff contention. They're not even in the playoff contention. Like, they're a game behind the Kings for the 10th spot. but king a game above portland who can ask but The Kings, who are basically the Chicago Bulls.
00:22:42
Speaker
Yes. yeah and Yeah. And they're a game above who? Portland? They're a game above Portland. This ain't no legitimate team. im i don't this team This is like the worst I've ever seen for the Phoenix Suns that has not one but three superstars.
Eastern Conference Playoff Insights
00:22:56
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Beal, I'm not going to say he's holding the team hostage. You guys traded for him. making promises to him about how good this was going to be and he was going to be a different, like he was going to still adapt and flow with the team. And no coach is able to adapt and flow with themm Like there was no there was no cohesion or conciseness with this son's team for you to think it would have worked out.
00:23:14
Speaker
So, you know, you were right. Because bringing Bradley Bill on, the guy hasn't been a catch and shooter in five to six years. And now we're going to turn him back into one? it is It doesn't work like that.
00:23:24
Speaker
It doesn't. Now you're calling him the biggest loser in the NBA. It's crazy. three games Three games behind Dallas, by the way. Which is odd that Dallas is still in the playing spot.
00:23:35
Speaker
We were talking about Dallas two weeks ago having the four-fifth games because they didn't have players. We had three games behind them. Come on, man. And this is the oddest Western conference I've ever seen.
00:23:47
Speaker
If you look at the 1 through 10, right? You have... Golden State Warriors, I mean, OKC, Houston, Nuggets, Lakers, Warriors, Grizzlies, who recently just fired their head coach, Taylor Jenkins.
00:23:58
Speaker
So I think they're out of the playoffs for me. Minnesota Timberwolves, Clippers at the AFC, Mavericks, Kings. The Clippers at the AFC is so confusing to me, knowing that this is a team that was such braggadocio talking about how they've won the Paul George thing.
00:24:12
Speaker
They're so much better. They're refined. They're they're going to be great. And now they're AFC. You went from a third seed at one point, drive away to an AFC.
00:24:21
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This West is going to be real interesting this playoffs. It's going a real interesting shakeup. Now, hopefully, if you're the Clippers, you don't stay the A.C. because you're getting swept, in my opinion, by the Clippers. I mean by the Thunder. You're getting swept.
00:24:33
Speaker
I don't see that. There's a certain somebody out there who's not going to like the fact that you said they're going to swept by OKC. I'm not even going to give them a gentleman's sweep. Are they going to make up the plan?
00:24:44
Speaker
They might not, to be honest, because I don't think they're beating the Timberwolves for the 7th seed. And Give AD his lucky moment. AD's good enough to win one game. If Dallas ends up being eight, I'm going to crack up. can see Dallas being eight. I can see it happening. going to crack up. I can see Dallas winning that one game. Like, yo, we're good enough to do this. And they do because they got the heart. They got the players in the heart to do it, right? They got guys that. Maybe Jason Kidd can come play point guard for them.
00:25:10
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not even dude Not even that, though. They got guys that will win you one game and will hit a clutch shot. We've seen it multiple times. Spencer did hits that one clutch three where he's had a good game, but he'll hit that clutch moment three. He did it versus the Nets. He does it all the time in the like one playoff game, and then after that, he'll disappear.
00:25:25
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That'll be the game to do it, that one playing game where they're like, they're writing us out. they We're tired of them talking trash about Nico Harris. We got this. They beat the Clippers for the playing spot, and then they get swept by the Thunder instead.
00:25:37
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it But the Thunder is sweeping somebody in the first round. And then counter clock with it to the Eastern Conference, Chris. Oh, it's a just a juggernaut of just sweeps all all around. It's a slogger fest. Just sweep after sweep after sweep. The first three teams are getting swept.
00:25:56
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Cleveland, right now, it's the Cavs at one, Boston at two, Knicks at three, but we'll talk about the Knicks. Pacers at four, Bucs at five, Pistons at six, shout out to Pistons, seven the Magic, eight the Hawks, nine the Heat, ten the Bulls. It's all going to stay the same. There's nothing there's nothing changing from that because the other teams in the Eastern Conference are tanking, excuse me and they're fighting the tank like crazy. I'm talking about the tank fest is so real where – I can smell it now. The Sixers getting the fourth pick. That's all going say.
00:26:27
Speaker
But if you look at it this way. You had to work these on, didn't you? no No, you already did it. You did it first. How did I do it? You brought in Joel Embiid. You did it first.
00:26:38
Speaker
And then look at look at it this way. The Heat are making the playoffs. They're going to lose to the Hawks for the AFC. The Heat are going to beat the Bulls for the ninth seed. Right? The ninth. And that's it. So we're going see the same eight.
00:26:51
Speaker
The Cavs are sweeping the Hawks. with ease. The Magic got a bad matchup. If the Magic got the macup matchup versus the Cavs, I could see them not getting swept, but they play the Celtics. That's a sweep because the Celtics, the Magic never play the Celtics well.
00:27:06
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They just don't match The Magic don't have the offense. They don't have the, upp whereas the Cavs' offense is too stagnant. The Magic and Celtics offense cruises past them every time.
00:27:17
Speaker
and crop no nine It's not even that they cruise. The problem with the the time of the matchup with the Magic is that even if Boston isn't hitting their threes, the Magic are depleted at the guard position.
00:27:30
Speaker
Yep. So now you're down to Cole Anthony and Anthony Black, who are serviceable, but like, you know, whatever. I mean, unless you got Banker. Oh, no, I'm sorry. You you forgot out Corey Joseph as well.
00:27:43
Speaker
Corey Joseph is just starting. He's just starting now. So even if Banker and Wagner can just put the team on their back, maybe they get a game? Because maybe Boston isn't hitting those three.
00:27:54
Speaker
Because they're going chuck. They're just going to chuck the threes. like yeah And everyone talks about, oh you know oh, why doesn't Boston get love? Or why doesn't Boston get... Boston's cool if you like that kind of thing.
00:28:07
Speaker
But... you know they they they're chuckers, and that's fine. But they they act like they're not, and their fans act like they aren't just chuckers. They're chuckers. So you're going to have a team. going to have a game where they're not hitting threes because they're just taking jump shots. so But even if they have that game, just don't see. I see getting swept.
00:28:29
Speaker
This is where the sweeps, I think, still continue, but it can end. The Knicks versus the Pistons. I think the Pistons make it a dogfight, but I think the Knicks still sweep. That's not going to be a sweep. going to be a sweep.
00:28:40
Speaker
That's not going to be a sweep. Knicks are free-falling right now. They are. You're absolutely right. And it looks like there's not a lot of chemistry and confusion. Isaiah Stewart can't wait to punch Carl Anthony Towns in the mouth.
00:28:53
Speaker
And yeah guess what? There goes the suspension because he his thin ice is so crazy where at this point, even if he doesn't start anything, he's the first one suspended. Now you've lost your Rodman. You've lost your Rodman. Rodman is a bit of a stretch. Rodman as in the the guy that this this this Pistons, they're trying to bring back the old school Pistons basketball. They're trying to bring back. Okay. You don't got to compare him to Dennis Rodman.
00:29:17
Speaker
That's fair. You lost your enforcer. Because that honest honestly, if anybody on that team is like a Rodman is Joe Endurne. If we're being honest. But they walk the enforce that's the i mean lost They lost to Dog. Bro, this is the Pistletean I just saw arguing with each other because Tim Herland-Jewan don't play defense. Stop, stop, stop, stop. You're comparing these guys to Hall of Fame Dennis Rodman.
00:29:34
Speaker
Like, Jalen Duren's cool. Isaiah Stewart's cool. But, like, let's not invoke the name of Rodman. How are we doing mindset and mentality, not for play style basketball? Well, Duren has the ability to be as good as it is.
00:29:47
Speaker
Once you start invoking names, that's where you start getting into, like, comparison thing. and There's no comparison there. No. There's no comparison. Well, none. Except for Cade. There's no comparison on this Pistons team to any of the Hall of Fame talent they've had except for Cade.
00:30:01
Speaker
Cade's going to be that Hall of Fame great. He's that good. The
Critique of Doc Rivers' Coaching Career
00:30:06
Speaker
Knicks are way better than them. Cade's cool. Cade's good.
00:30:12
Speaker
Very good. but Let's not give him the Hall of Fame moniker yet because who ah a year ago we was asking whether or not he was a bust. So let's not let's not go from... You was asking that.
00:30:23
Speaker
I never asked that. Stop it. Let's not go from is he a bust to, oh my God, he's a Hall of Fame bona fide Hall of Famer. he has He has taken a jump. He probably should be most improved player this year.
00:30:34
Speaker
I'm not even going say that, but he could be. He probably is going to win it. I like Austin Reeves for the award. He's not going to get it, but I really Austin Reeves for the award. Over Cade Cunningham? Dude, have you seen how Reeves has been playing all season? Without LeBron? With LeBron and Uka?
00:30:48
Speaker
The Pistons are the... Six seed in the East. Tied for fifth with Milwaukee. The Pistons. The Pistons who have not been relevant in forever. And you're right. But look at the East. The East...
00:31:04
Speaker
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. thank I don't want to hear the east i want hear the East-West argument. I hear it every year. I really don't care. I really don't care. And yet they still blow the East out of the water. Look how you try to pivot the argument.
00:31:18
Speaker
I present this argument to you with Detroit being the fifth seed in the East, and you talk about Austin Reeves on the team of LeBron James and Luka Doncic. It's Kane Cunningham's team in Detroit.
00:31:31
Speaker
And you want to talk to me about Austin? girls most dreams cruel but become on Most improved player ain't about who you play with. This is what you've done as a basketball player. came and lady twenty and eight Let me point this out to you again.
00:31:43
Speaker
We went from, is Cade Cunningham a bust? You just said it yourself. I never called Cade a bust, though. See, that's the problem right there. Hall of Fame level guy. Comparable. He's averaging 25 and 9. He's having a great year.
00:31:56
Speaker
Most improved. Austin Reeves next to LeBron and Luka is still giving you 22 in like eight. It ain't much difference off. And you playing with the two superstars that should be outstrying you. yeah ninging wide open looks In games without LeBron, his point per game goes up to 30. 30 without LeBron. It's usually without LeBron. It's him and Luka or him by himself. That was without him even having Luka, he was still giving him 30.
00:32:23
Speaker
You had to just throw Dorian Fade Smith in there. You love Dorian Fade Smith. Here goes Jackson Hayes. Good luck. Jarrett Vanderbilt. Come on, man. Back to the conversation, though. The Knicks, they suck.
00:32:37
Speaker
But I still think they beat the Pistons. like I still think they beat the Pistons in a straight sweep because the Pistons are ready. The Pistons are ready. Like, the Knicks have their own issues yet again led by Tom Thibodeau, who I believe runs his players to the gutter, to the ground.
00:32:51
Speaker
It's a proven commodity. It's a proven fact. He hasn't changed yet from it. But the Knicks are what they are, Chris. They're a team that's talentally better than the Pistons. And I'm not just talking about the first two players. It's the one through five. Now, yeah, the piss if the Pistons' depth can hold up, then you might have an argument. with But if the depth doesn't hold, because again, depth changes. That's the thing.
00:33:12
Speaker
The moment the Knicks go to the bench, we got problems.
00:33:18
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In the first round, they ain't going to the bench. They ain't going to the bench the first round. They ain't going to the bench in the first round. The depth is going to be nine guys for the Knicks, ten guys for the Pistons, and then and let's be for real.
00:33:29
Speaker
Wait, wait, stop. run Run that sentence back. Nine guys for the Knicks, ten guys for the Pistons. What nine guys for the Knicks are playing? you After the five, Mitchell Robinson, Miles McBride, P.J. Tucker, they just signed Cam Reddish. Okay, fine, Cam Reddish. I know you're not slandering Tucker.
00:33:49
Speaker
We wasn't cheering P.J. on just two seasons
00:33:53
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okay five cam register ah he i know you had just oh pj tucker i'd know you not slander and pj like you what ah cheer and pj ya just two seasons ago ah but We wasn't just talking about how good P.J. Tucker was. P.J. Tucker is 40 years old.
00:34:11
Speaker
Has not played. When's the last time you seen P.J. Tucker on the floor? Two minutes versus the Spurs.
00:34:18
Speaker
On March 19th. Two minutes. They said pe P.J. Tucker was in the club in downtown Philly ordering drinks at the start of the season. He still lives in the city.
00:34:30
Speaker
The club has you how time just sold him don't even bother showing up. And that's the guy that's going to come off the bench for the Knicks? Bro, they're going to play him for sure. They're going to play him. Unless he's going to squabble up with Isaiah Stewart at midcourt and go four on four and they can go one on one and scrap it out.
00:34:51
Speaker
I don't think that's going to happen. But that's, again, though, it's still the Knicks have so much more talent than them. It's an abundance of it. Now, do they have the culture? The Knicks are talented. The problem is that they're gassed.
00:35:03
Speaker
If there's a team, okay, if there's a team like Detroit, right, and it's not like Detroit wants to run and do all a bunch stuff, whatever. but But if I'm playing the Knicks, I don't even care if I'm not even built to run.
00:35:16
Speaker
they are the Their legs can't keep up. This is a team that has three players on the highest minutes per game ratio right now in Brunson, Josh Hart, and McKillbridge. All three have the highest minute totals in the NBA. Is Brunson going to play in the rest of the regular season? If his ankle can hold up.
00:35:38
Speaker
ah you really Are you really reliant? Now, I like Bridges. I like Bridges. But are we really sitting here? We've seen him offensively in the playoffs you know have great games. But we've also seen him be real cold.
00:35:50
Speaker
I can see him exploding wild statement. Wild statement. No, no, no. Pause. It was the... pause who it was it was the it was the It was the no pun intended pause you took after that that really just encapsulated how wild that statement was. I can see him going off more than I can see OG going off, but you got to like they they're running a brunt. OG could go off too.
00:36:19
Speaker
And that's fine because that's how you win the Pistons matchup and beat them in four. And they'll be the closest games. We might actually see it under 100 games. We might actually see it. have a question. How many points is your boy Tobias Harris averaging in this series? Bro, he's getting locked up.
00:36:33
Speaker
Hypothetically speaking. He might average 12 in the series. He's going to get cooked. That's 12 more points than he averaged in game seven. He may not even go there. Bro, he might average 12 in the series, but he's to get locked After that, though, favorable matchup yet again. This is probably the best matchup we've seen in a while in the NBA.
00:36:52
Speaker
It'll be Bucs and Pacers. like yes I've loved their matchups. Every time, I love them. They got beef.
00:37:03
Speaker
Don't forget about last year and the plane to in In the... In the... and the um and ah what's it The thing in the beginning, the Adam Silver, the joint we call the Adam Silver tournament. Oh, the NBA Cup.
00:37:16
Speaker
The Cup. Yeah, yeah hey I was there. I was at the game. i was there. I got to see Tyrus Hallmer and do the game. It was phenomenal. And they ran off with the ball. and no They got some. They got. And this is like the the final when they talk about, oh, there's still rivalries. OK, this one, I believe this one. I believe because they don't like none of them like each other.
00:37:34
Speaker
They don't gap up. They don't shake hands. They don't hug it. which surprise Would you be surprised if the Bucs lost in the first round? Nope. Why? Because the team stinks and is led by Doc Rivers. Nope. Not not surprised one bit.
00:37:48
Speaker
Doc Rivers is the guy that just recently tried to say. Your boy. He tried to not even say. He defended losing up 3-1 for everyone his losses. He's like, at least never got swept.
00:38:01
Speaker
I ain't never got swept. If I could slap a ball-headed man to today, it'd be him. Because why on God's green earth do you think that's okay? You're up 3-1. Oh, I never got swept, though.
00:38:15
Speaker
You're lost in the biggest moment of your life every time. You needed one game. Okay, maybe you lost the second one. You're down. You're up three two You needed one game. Oh, it's You need one game. You've lost. You lose four straight every time. You're either up 3-0, you're up 3-1, and you lose four straight every time.
00:38:34
Speaker
One of the most... overhyped coaches ever in history off of one ring. One ring. he never They didn't even get another one off of one ring. He's had some of the best talented players in history.
00:38:48
Speaker
more than fill More than Phil. More than Spolster. He's had... Are we saying quantity or... Quantity of players. He's had the most We say he's at the most Hall Fame. He's coached the most Hall of Fame players in his career.
Giannis' Future with the Bucks
00:39:05
Speaker
coach you've ever, you can name me right now, Dockerman's coached the most Hall of Famers. Point blank symbol. i mean yeah we talk I mean, are we talking like 60 Celtics and all that stuff too?
00:39:16
Speaker
Okay, give just give me a coach. Give me coach right now. You think coached more Hall Famers. So Phil had Kobe Shaq, Malone, Gary Payton.
00:39:28
Speaker
um but I mentioned Jordan Pippen. Yes, Jordan Pippen. Steve Kerr is a Hall of Famer, technically. Nah, I'm talking about real. I'm not superstar Hall of Fame talent.
00:39:40
Speaker
Okay, okay, so okay, okay. That was it. That was it. After you named Jordan Pippen, that's seven. He ain't had nobody in it. 8.
00:39:56
Speaker
Because he didn't have Odom, did he? know him at all yeah Yeah, he had Odom. Odom's a Hall of Fame talent, though. Gasol. Did Phil have Gasol? Yeah. Are we sure?
00:40:06
Speaker
The last run, yeah. 08, 09. Then that's nine. He had nine. Okay, I'm ah going to say nine. He had nine. who Who else did we mention?
00:40:18
Speaker
There's nobody else that's had. Pops had three. Spolsters had five? Wait, wait. Pop had Duncan Robinson.
00:40:30
Speaker
ah Duncan Robinson, Parker, Ginobili, Kawhi. Pop had five. Five. Ginobili, Parker, are we pretty know and wendy parker Am I counting who? Wemby. Are we counting Wemby?
00:40:43
Speaker
No, I don't count yet. Okay. I'm not counting old CP3. No, I'll count him. CP3. So, six. Okay. Because I count CP3. Six. All right. Spolsters had six.
00:40:55
Speaker
Spolsters had Bronway Bosch. Three. Morning. Four. Who? Who's the four? Wanzo Morning. Four.
00:41:05
Speaker
Shaquille O'Neal, 5. No, no, no. That's Riley. Riley had... Shaquille O'Neal then, 4. Nope, that was Riley, too. That was Riley, too. That was Riley, too. Unless there was a... Unless there was a bit of a I can't remember if Spoh was there before or after SAC got traded.
00:41:22
Speaker
Spoh's had 3, then. I'm sorry. Riley's had 4. Riley's had more than 4 because he's got... He's got the 80s. He's got the 80s. Not considering that...
00:41:34
Speaker
do I only consider his head coach. I'm not considering assistant coaching. but He coached the Lakers. So he had Magic and Kareem. yeah magic and well you can you can There's a bunch of Hall of Famers on that team. He had the the Knicks.
00:41:46
Speaker
I said Superstar Hall of Famers. I mean, Patrick Ewing. That's three. well Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop. jack and wait When you said Superstar Hall of you're not counting more guys off them 80s Lakers?
00:41:57
Speaker
yeah kind where were they Are they worthy
00:42:03
Speaker
Worthy a superstar. um mind um But I'm not going to just do the role-playing Hall Famers like that. ain't finna do that. You ain't finna tell me, Chris. Oh, yeah, he coached Robert Horry. Listen now.
00:42:13
Speaker
Whoa, whoa. What you disrespect for? Why are you disrespecting Robert Horry? I'm not disrespecting him. There's levels. There's levels. If Robert Horry was to come out right now and say, yo, bro, I'm better than LeBron James, I'm slapping him.
00:42:25
Speaker
He got seven rings. What you And this is why he gets like a good open palm five fingers to the face. Like, slapping. What the hell? Let's just go off of Doc's resume.
00:42:35
Speaker
Whatever. Back to Doc. Dwight Howard. When the Doc have Dwight Howard? Was it his years in Magic with Dwight? No. His first years in Orlando was with Tracy McGrady.
00:42:47
Speaker
Young Tracy. Young trick Tracy. and We're not going to say Tracy. Hall of Fame talent. okay okay Tracy is very much a Hall of Famer.
00:42:58
Speaker
mean A superstar talent. Agreed. cause To me, tracy Tracy was pretty much done after Houston. like I don't count anything after Houston.
00:43:10
Speaker
I don't count him sitting on the bench for the Spurs orumly or the Hawks. I don't count nothing. When he was the Magic, he was nice. Yeah, he was nice, but Hall Famer? Yes. Rajon Rondo.
00:43:23
Speaker
Ray Allen. KG. okay Even Paul Pierce. James Harden. Joel Embiid. Chris Paul.
00:43:37
Speaker
Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin. He's a Hall of Famer. Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin.
00:43:48
Speaker
Blake Griffin. Do you not remember that Corpus team? Blake Griffin. Blake Griffin. Okay. Giannis Antetokounmpo. Giannis Antetokounmpo. Damian Lourdes.
00:43:59
Speaker
I feel like I'm missing somebody.
00:44:03
Speaker
Who else am I missing? fuck I feel like I'm missing like two. I feel like you. i mean i felt like you I mean, Kawhi. Kawhi Leonard. Ah, thank you. Paul George. Paul George. Ah, thank you. There you go. though I feel like I'm missing two. Paul George. Kawhi Leonard. Ah, there you go.
00:44:18
Speaker
Now that should be it. I just named 11 guys. 11. 11. eleven He's had a full starting five and bench of Hall Fame talent. He's collectively coached.
00:44:31
Speaker
And you're telling me you you can't win another ring at least once? I don't – I have, like, Doc Rivers ever coming out and saying what he said about, oh, at least I never got swept, is asinine.
00:44:43
Speaker
The most foolhardy thing I've ever heard. And yet, as of right now, currently standing, you're coaching what might be one of the greatest talents you've ever coached in collective history. Because, again, they argue who's the better power forward, KG or Giannis. They argue it all the time.
00:44:58
Speaker
oh You have Dame and KG, or you have Dame and Giannis right now, and you can't win a playoffs. You can't win, because I don't see what's the argument between KG and Giannis. They make the argument KG or Giannis all the time now.
00:45:11
Speaker
Who makes these arguments? um man Sports media, podcast. You'll see it on time now. but i mean I like the comparisons. Not the comparison. It's a nice conversation. It's a nice comment to have. Because at the end of the day, Giannis is another player that's got an MVP and a defensive player of the year in the same year. Around the same time.
00:45:33
Speaker
That's great it's generationally great. yeah honest is the Besides KG, Giannis is the second best player Dak has ever coached. I would have said Kawhi, but the Kawhi that Dodd got wasn't like... have a question for you.
00:45:48
Speaker
ah ja Is Giannis the greatest Buck ever? Yes. No. No. Because they had Kareem. They also had Oscar.
00:46:01
Speaker
How many chips did Kareem with the Bucks? One? One.
00:46:06
Speaker
Oscar only won one as well with Kareem, right? I believe so. They tied. oh Because once he passed, if he stays and passes Kareem scoring, like Bucs scoring records, if he finishes the rebounding records, he's going to beat the assist records at at one point if he stays. Because, like, Oscar's assist records were good up until a certain point.
00:46:29
Speaker
Then, yeah, he'd be the greatest Buc ever. But personally speaking, Giannis isn't staying on the Bucs after this season. When they lose to the Pacers, potentially in the first round, or they bounced off the second round, Giannis is gone. They're gone. Because it's...
00:46:40
Speaker
It hasn't worked out this Bucs team. Dame and Giannis didn't work out as a duo we thought they were. win Which we all believe. like We all but believe in totality this was going to work. It was going to be an adjustment period, which they had. And yet they still don't look good.
00:46:53
Speaker
Giannis and Dame look good, right? like They as a tandem look a lot better than the first year. I think would have been done more swimmingly and smoother if they had just figured out the coaching carousel earlier, if they did maybe kept Terry Stotts, who that was Dame's guy. They kept him, and he would have figured out the offense completely because I think he would have revamped the entire offense because you look Giannis has no problem giving up the ball to Dame. That was the argument they used to try and make.
00:47:18
Speaker
Doc came over, now of a sudden Giannis gives – he defers. Not an issue. But you brought Dock in, and that's the problem. That's one of your biggest spearheads. That's the problem. They trade for Kyle Kuzma get rid of Chris Middleton. I don't hate that trade.
00:47:29
Speaker
I just want the world to know, or just whoever listens to this, Kyle Kuzma's not that guy. ah he's If you were talking about third options, it ain't him. like He was at one point.
00:47:40
Speaker
He's no longer there. I like the Gary Trent. I like the Brooke Lopez, even though Brooke Lopez is pushing his 40s as well. He's older. Bobby Portis is done. we not mentioned we mentioned that he is the net's all-time leading scorer.
00:47:52
Speaker
like Bobby Portis suspended himself, Chris. Suspending himself, Bobby Portis. By accident. Now I'm going blame him because, again, like it's really hard to always, when you want to take a pain medication or anything, you've got to look through the entire NFL health and safety regulation handbook. It's hard. NBA.
00:48:08
Speaker
It's hard. But the Bucs in itself... Correct
Conclusion and Personal Reflections
00:48:14
Speaker
yourself. What? What'd I say? NFL. nfl Oh, sorry, NBA.
00:48:19
Speaker
health treated They both use the same dialogue, essentially, but it's hard. But now... the Bucs don't show me. they like are you Would you say right now you're scar you're afraid of the Bucs?
00:48:32
Speaker
and When they first got Dame, was like, damn. I've never been afraid of the Bucs. And that's the problem. as ah As a fan, as and as a fan of a team that's in the same conference as the Bucs, I've never once said, oh my God, they got to play the Bucs.
00:48:45
Speaker
Most crazy. i I can say I i feared the Bucs when they had Drew Holiday. I used to be like, damn, I don't want to play the Bucs this week. And that's just a fan watch because Drew, would he would lock up one of your best players.
00:48:56
Speaker
um I just feel like the Bucs, even when they played Phoenix, like, yeah, they won the title. Giannis played amazing. But think I just, don't know. never felt like it was, like, overtly sustainable.
00:49:11
Speaker
like i know it didn't It didn't seem like was replicable unless they kept that team intact, which they did and it didn't work out. well And now, like, the Pacers are on the rise, but what Hallenburton are we getting is the real question. But I still, regardless of if they win or not the first round, it only gets worse for the Bucs in the second round.
00:49:30
Speaker
Because they're dogfight in first round with the Pacers. They're to a dogfight. That second round ain no it ain't no cakewalk playing need this the Cavs or the Celtics. Like, you're you're struggling.
00:49:40
Speaker
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00:50:27
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Listen, man, I'll be busy. I'm sorry. Yo, listen, Y'all got a whole pod out of us this week. Whole pod. Hopefully we get another one next week. Hopefully. I make no promises.
00:50:39
Speaker
Because, you know, college basketball championship will be next week. holyly Hopefully. but paul if i If I pick, if Florida win, you'll definitely get a pod. Florida's not winning, but go Duke. Come on, man. You're terrible person.
00:50:52
Speaker
You're a terrible person. You root for UConn and Duke. I don't root for either of them, to be honest. You literally just said, go Duke. They're both going to win. They're just both going to win. No, they're not.
00:51:04
Speaker
Okay. you also You also root for the Lakers. I'm surprised you root for the Cowboys, too. i don't root the Lakers. I root for the Sixers, and they're terrible. Ew. I root for the Eagles, and they're great.