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Inevitable
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Chris and Jarod talk about the Boston Celtics winning the NBA Finals over the Dallas Mavericks, where and how both teams can improve, potential landing spots for Klay Thompson, Brandon Ingram and Paul George, NBA free agency, the Giddey/Caruso trade, the hiring of JJ Redick by the Lakers and so much more!
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Celtics' Championship Triumph
00:00:02
Speaker
You know they want standpoint, you know we straight to the point Ball Chris with the sis, fast breaks like a joint square in half Ball J with the J, we throwing heat, no gas, that's a touchdown pass You know just how we coming, so it's nothing left to say Now they hard-leaking guard me like Dirk fade away You know just how we coming, so it's nothing left to say Yeah, you know just how we coming, so it's nothing left to say They want standpoint, you know we straight to the point They want standpoint, you know we straight to the point They want standpoint, you know we straight to the point
00:00:40
Speaker
What's going on? The final's over and I'm still disappointed. Disappointed. Jesus. So disappointed you can't even speak correct English. I understand my brother. I understand. It's a sad day. Still. Because when Boston wins, America loses. Yeah. Sad day in America. Sad day in America. Sad week, actually, because they celebrated a. Year in the NBA. Very sad. Yeah. Depressing. Pointing. Yeah, that's the right word. That is. I said it wrong, but you know the word. All right. Enough. Enough. Enough. Let's let's kind of get into
Celtics' Season and Playoff Journey
00:01:18
Speaker
it. Let's rip the Band-Aid off. Ladies and gentlemen, let's talk about. Excuse me, throw up a little bit in my mouth. Oh, Paul. Oh, I didn't say that. Oh, talk a little bit.
00:01:28
Speaker
Oh, yucky. But what the hell? Oh, yucky. But Boston Celtics win banner number 18, their 18th NBA championship, their first since 2008. Jared, they pretty much dominated the Davis Mavericks. Yeah. Talk to me about what you saw. Talk to me about Boston as a whole this season, the kind of season they've had. And this kind of caps off their quote unquote run of Brown and Tatum with a championship, something that they you know had been had been fighting for since 2017. Yeah. So talk to me about ah about what you saw and and where did they go from here. For me, it wasn't much. There's not really much of what you saw, right? like We knew this roster could win a championship. like Obviously, look at what they had, the pieces they had. Porzenas played on injuries, still winning you a chip. um Easiest finals run in NBA history? By far.
00:02:27
Speaker
I really can't think of anything else besides to say that first and foremost, like this is by far the easiest run in finals history. eies Easiest? Easiest. Easiest in terms of what? Because easiest, you leave yourself up to a lot of subjection. Best roster going to season, best team going to the season, best starting five going to the season. You could say slightly solid bench, not a great bench, but when you have that starting five, you're going to be fine. Going into the playoffs, Jimmy gets hurt. So now you're playing a Miami Heat team without Jimmy. Cook them. Next series, you go into the Cavs one. Kind of depleted Cavs, no Jared Allen. Mitchell gets hurt in game five. He's out game six as well. Beat them. Go into your easy conference finals against a Pacers team that nobody expected to be there. Thought those would be the Knicks. And then Hallenberg gets hurt. Now you so now you you smash them.
Finals MVP Debate: Tatum vs. Brown
00:03:22
Speaker
Close games yeah, but that's because you know as always we we see this Celtics team have fraudulent moments But they came up big when it mattered as they show because they're the better teams and all these teams that they play then you go to the Mavs and oh They just came in hot and that's what we said if they come in hot from the gate The Mavs have no chance and then game one we watch Porzingis Destroy them off the bench in 25 minutes. That's what he did to the Mavs and he gets hurt And even then with him out, Horford still steps up. Drew Holliday's having big games. Joan Brown still doing his thing. And Tatum, who i think could have won who I think should have won finals MVP. I think he should have won it. This is the first time in NBA history I think a player that led the team in points assists and rebounds didn't win the finals MVP, which I think is a little shocking. in ah In a series that they've won. In a series that they've won. And I think it's a little shocking. Because again, Joan Brown yet, Eastern Conference Finals and MVP was for sure a lock for him. He was bawling out.
00:04:17
Speaker
every game, even against that Pacers team. But in this Mavs run, yeah, it's back and forth. But I still would have gave it to Jason Tam, triple double here, ask you double doubles there. j attention but Let me ask you this. You mentioned Brown winning Eastern Conference MVP. Yeah. You mentioned Brown winning Finals and MVP. Yeah. Has has the tie turned on the Brown-Tatum argument? Not for me. has it has it Because I think there's an argument here, and I talked about this with someone. when it was like 3-1 and I'm like, oh, the Dallas, you know, what happens if Dallas makes the comeback, right? You know, you have to do that speculative thing where it's like, okay, what happened? We had to wish, yeah we we had hope, we wished. I think that, I think the tide has turned on Tatum as a whole. Yeah, I mean, narrative. but People don't, he now speaking strictly from narrative and how people talk about him, not his talent, not what he can do.
00:05:16
Speaker
but how he is viewed as they whole i think he's a I think he's a very talented player. yeah He takes a lot of bad shots. Still, yeah. But he can get away with it at times because of his athleticism, because
Celtics' Roster Enhancements
00:05:33
Speaker
of his talent. Yeah. But I think people kind of see him as like a Kobe tribute act. Yeah, and that's what made it worse for him. And I don't think that's a hundred percent fair. I'm not going to argue it because, you know, you know, I get it. But it's funny when you think about winning the chip, Chris, the man said nothing original. I don't want to hear nothing. No, no, no, no, no. That's a little ridiculous. Like even for me, that's real nitpicky. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest, though. I'm going to be honest. This shit was trash trash, bro. Like you said, everything somebody else has already said in their language.
00:06:14
Speaker
Yeah, the kids understand what it the kids know trash the kids understand But my point is it's a little nitpicky now. Am I gonna sit up here and defend Tatum? No, I don't think I'm gonna say this I think people view Tatum as a very good to Which is crazy cuz he's still one. He's the one is he? Yeah hands down because that argument shifts because the argument then becomes well, I He has a lot of empty calorie. He has a lot of empty stats. He X, Y, Z, a you know whatever. But Brown was the was the catalyst for this team. Which is cool, but remember, Brown- Or Zingus was the catalyst. See, the second must go. Black was the catalyst. A holiday. you know They want to give the credit to everybody but Zingus. That's fair, because, again, Tatum, again, and think about it this way. Tatum can't even give you a 40-point game besides twice the season. he's had The argument against him this season is very, it's very fair. My problem- We still won.
00:07:10
Speaker
The thing about the 40 point games this season is you have this, you have this, this five, the starting five, we're going to put Porzingis as a bird is starting five because that's where he played majority of the season. You have to divvy them that you can't, that's fair, but he has, he's barely dropped 30 this season. How many 35, how many 35 point games that he have where we, where we would be like, that's a quiet 35, you know, like what, how do you have a quiet 35? I think when I used to watch him drop 30, I'm like, man, he was getting buckets. Now, where i ike I can barely see him drop 30. I barely see it. I think it's because he take heat. The bad shot doesn't help. You said it. I said this and as is in the pot on the pod last episode.
00:07:49
Speaker
so not a He misses a lot of Jimmy's yeah, it would like a wide open shots. He bricks the ill-advised ones He's the ones but he's not growing. He's the ones with three guys on him pause, but the ones with three guys defending him He's he's making those but the layups and the bunnies and I'm gonna blow some way of something like dude It's it's it's crazy to watch 25 so he's still like we put a lot of pressure on him for a guy that he's not even hitting his prime yet Whereas again, it's like this is for me is is this isn't the same you're the same players But this is the same as like when Katie joined the Warriors Stefan Katie We still knew Steph was a one but Katie got to really eat more and Because you have a stuff current team. This is how just tatum and jill and brown look like you added persingas and drew Now jaylen brown gets to eat a lot more because tatum's still going to see a bulk of the defense a bulk of everything And the guy's still giving you Now he's getting close to being in the triple double range where he can give you an assist in rebounds and points And jill and brownies gets to reap the benefits where he can just score a lot because now his job has diminished Less than what he was before remember jill and brown was now your second option that was doing almost everything tatum was doing
00:08:54
Speaker
You don't got to do that anymore. You don't got to. I think because Brass Stevens and the Celtics Brass, shout out to them because they built this monster
Mavericks' Finals Performance
00:09:03
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team. And the team's still intact. Again, Porzinga's injury-wise is going to last you until next season. Oh my gosh, they're locked. They're locked in. the That takes pressure off of Brown. That takes pressure off of Tatum bringing in Holliday. Get rid of Marcus Smart. And then what a great move. Getting rid of guys who had been there for a long time. You don't need them no more. Marcus Smart paved the way for Drew Holliday to come in with this chip right away. In the same year. And it's a very shrewd move when it happened.
00:09:40
Speaker
Some people may not have been emotionally ready for that to happen in Boston, but I don't think they can argue with the results. I don't think that, I don't think that this team, it's hard to say I don't think this team would win if certain guys were healthy. Because I can't, then on that on the flip side say that they're the best team in the league. I don't think I'm arguing easiest plan over. and Don't think you can have it both ways. I'm not Or they won't but even if you're the best team like you could still go coast to a chip Like the nuggets kind of coast to a chip, but at least their comp was healthy, right? Like they're the guys they played were he Last season last literally last season. Let me ask you this Do you think that the Celtics would have gotten more respect from people outside of Boston?
00:10:33
Speaker
People who just don't slurp the Celtics if these guys if yeah, Jimmy Butler was helped Yeah, and they won the same cuz Jimmy's taking on the six and Hallie Burton was healthy taking the same way and And the cast in the scene was I think Casa took them to seven right and then now you're having a different argument But why do you think the kids were taking them to seven? Mitchell's a burner dude, and then Jerry Allen just came back. Mitchell's gonna burn. I don't think that Cleveland had the residual pieces outside of Mitchell. but The guys were stepping up. okay when it's like We finally see Moe take his form in that series because he was looking washed against the magic, but that could just be the wings he's facing, right?
00:11:20
Speaker
Now is he like they came into that series and that Mitchell or whoever was talking I'm saying yo, man You got it figured you got to get this offense rolling. He was he was coming in for Garland is like a it's it's streaky, but he was playing better in that series versus the magic again I think just imagine a better guard defenders, which is weird to say good your holidays with me on that team, but true how they asked and they'll guard Mitchell Garland was kind of had he was going back and forth with Brown a little bit, but he was still having his plan is a good game I think they could have gone seven with the Cavs because the Cavs look like they were playing the ball until Mitchell got hurt And then the Pacers, they really could've went to seven low key. Cause that first game one was good.
00:11:56
Speaker
and whale i studied on the pod in the enda to one game one of halibber goingnna hold out he to calli where the hell of football ball And then again, if he didn't get hurt, I'm thinking the series is that series is going to be a good series. The problem is I want to say, I want to say that I really do, but I mean,
NBA Free Agency Speculations
00:12:12
Speaker
again, religious history, you can say he did not play well. How did not play well. Oh yeah. Like I want to say that. And you know, I've been the biggest have a Burton defender. I've been talking about how Burton says he was on the Kings. But he did not play well, and he did not play well really in the next series either until I get to like the last couple of games he was not even even then he had times where it was real spotty. So I want to I want to pump the brakes on to have a Burton praise for a second because he kind of he kind of said the killer in there yet.
00:12:49
Speaker
I think Indiana is going to be in a better position next year. I think that the Knicks, depending on what moves they're able to make, I don't think that, I really don't know if they want to bring Randall back, but we'll talk about that. and a one ah He's on the contract. So it's going to take him off they but maybe be maybe getting moved i you know um just off the books. on take I think they play very well despite not having him, but I think having him Was I think having him back bringing og back the guy bought Donavish they still they I'd bring back out Burks to I'll bring oh, yeah I pay Aaron Steen if they want to move off Mitchell Robinson, I'd move on Mitchell Robinson. That's a ferret move to make they yeah they got the pieces They got pieces. So we will get the next they have pieces Yeah, they just resigned Pascal before for you to see like isn't this new trade thing or natural Apron thing crazy you can make it move already. Right? Well, I mean they they knew what moves they were going to make my point is
00:13:45
Speaker
i think indian I don't think Indiana would have traded for him without thinking they were going through it. No, you have to lock him up. You have to. like That doesn't make sense not to. because Because look at, and I know I don't want to flip sports and change the topic, but look at what the Jets are doing with the subreddit. Yeah. Just traded for his song, but it couldn't, you know, didn't i think and they were going to think they were going to get extension. He's not even in the country. He's in Japan. Yeah. Around like Sam Rajek. So you can't have that kind of situation if you're Indiana. You've got to, you know, you've got to be able to say like, all right, I know I got. See I can lock up same with the Knicks. I think they don't trade for OGN You know me without knowing that you have to lock them up. You got to right? I mean again Boston though I like man but an embossing can make pieces in the free to see not crazy pieces because there are books is already in there That's what you're gonna need to do and they can get some good guys too, right? Like the the the option now come play with this team after winning a chip is there
00:14:39
Speaker
But again, the boss of this, this was there. They had to win this championship this year. They really had to, because this is like when we. Oh, yeah, this was it. This is it. And we talk about it all the time. like If they didn't win this, if they didn't win this title, I think they blew it. It's bad. It's bad. Especially because you just paid Joe Brown this offseason and now you got to pay Tatum an extension and you don't know, like, you can't keep saying it's working when it's not working. You just brought in two of the best all pro and let's say, you know, all NBA role players you could bring in and Drew Howdy and Prozingis. You can't, like, you can't do, I can't figure out who else to bring in to win a chip for you guys.
00:15:11
Speaker
Besides these two dudes. At a certain point, you won't stop bringing guys in and start shipping them out. So this was like, then and then this is the conversation we had earlier when the Dodgers got Shohei. We said, is it lock is it all in now, or is it it another a year or two? Boston was all in now. I think the Dodgers still have the year or two. But these are teams that have to make that statement right now. You have to win a chip. The difference is the difference is the the Dodgers had won a title in the past. Yeah. So as I said, Boston's a little different. But it's the same thing. now You build a super team, you've got to win
Coaching Changes: JJ Redick to Lakers
00:15:37
Speaker
it. It's that simple. You've got to win it. um I don't really have much else to say about the finals I'm it's cool to see that they won. Yeah, cuz I didn't want to see I wanted to see the Mavs one But the Mavs kind of just played themselves out of a Luca I don't I don't know how banged up he was on how banged up Harry was but they were gassed It was really gas And it's okay like again, I'm not saying it's okay because they gassed out the way they did but it's like We knew it the inevitable was coming like Kyrie and Luca were playing 37 plus minutes from round one all the way to the finals and they were balling
00:16:11
Speaker
you're You're bound to peak. You are. You're bound to peak. In the Nesel to defense, the blitz is on Luca. How are you trying to go one-on-one? And when you had PJ finally fizzled out, which he did, PJ Washington finally fizzled out, there was much less offense to find when you don't have it. yeah And I think i think part of the ah part of the thing with Dallas is this is the first time that they saw bigs that could truly stretch the floor and shoot. yeah And as good as Lively and Gafford had been, that's something that they hadn't had to contend with. nope And then remember, they stopped the lobs too. like They cut the lobs off like at the end. And Porzingis is 7-3. We talk about Porzingis. And I think sometimes people forget that he's than both Gafford and Riley. He was taller, dude. He's bigger than both. I mean, he's bigger than Riley. Gafford's pretty strong. Gafford's. Gafford's. No, no. No matter how strong you are, if if whoop if they're not, go I'm sorry. Porzingis is his hit step-back trade. He's his step-back trade. You know
Clippers' Roster and Paul George's Future
00:17:10
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what I'm saying? No one was hitting Step Back 3's game 1 like it was nothing. Hey, Porzingis was hot. And when you hot like that, there's not really much that Dallas could do. It's a game back too, though. you You just missed like almost a month of ball cooking. Hey, and a shout out to him. And that's what a... Listen, I'm trying to be trying to be objective.
00:17:32
Speaker
um you have to You have to give the credit to Boston. Yeah. in that situation, you get the credit to Porzingis, who stepped up, and the rest of the guys who definitely performed. Yeah. Shut up, Missoula. And the flip side, yeah, good job, Missoula. And the flip side, the flip side for Dallas, I think that I kind of don't know where they can go from here. I'm running back. Get rid of the guys I've told you are ready to get rid of.
00:18:04
Speaker
Oh, oh, yeah, somebody said somebody said some harder with junior. We got to go do it. What? First off, he ain't shot since May. Somebody to find a real estate agent. He's got to go. Max Cleaver got to go. Dwight Powell got to go like we don't need. I mean, guys, I mean, I mean, you don't. I wasn't really playing Cleveland. He was shouldn't have been playing like this before. He should have been playing. Let's start allocating these roster spots somewhere else. You hear rumors of Tobias Harris. They go get him. Y'all go take it. Take the headache. You go. You go get him. I don't know if it would be a headache. he would cut he would
00:18:35
Speaker
i mean he'd fit though I think he'll be really nice fit as a three Because then you're putting Tobias PJ or PJ Tobias gaffery. That's not a bad Starting five because I Derek Jones. I don't know if they bring back. But if they do you come off the bench. That's fine with me But uh, I mean a man's they got the core. I don't hate the core. They got the core You got to keep the five that you gotta think got if people were concerned whether or not Luke and Kyrie could play together I don't think that's a concern Now I think you have to find the residual pieces if you're Dallas to compete, you know, like if Luca is I think I think some of it has to go on Luca too. Like this might be his 06 Dirk run. Yeah, you know, like this might be. This is what you need. He needs to get his MVP campaign now. That's what Luca needs. He needs to start playing like an MVP now. You've had your fun. pardon But I think part of it i and playing like an MVP is
00:19:31
Speaker
you got to stop, you know, you've got to stop with the foul bait and you got to stop with the begging. You got to cut down on some weight too. You got to, you got to, I think, and I think I saw much, much more in this, in this Boston series and I did at any point throughout the playoffs, which he was complaining a lot. Yeah. But do you remember the game? Was it game five or whatever game that they played Minnesota? And people made a big deal about him you know asking for calls the day before. this The next game, but did he not he didn't ask for a single call, and they killed Minnesota. Yeah. He needs to do that over an 82-game season plus playoff. I think, again, i think we're going to transition to the free-to-see talk, because now we're kind of doing it. But Luca has to get into the defensive shape, too, that he needs to be in. And I'm not saying, yeah, he'll be an all-world defender. We know he's not. But there's flashes we've seen, and we need to have more of the flash. You can't be a traffic cone.
00:20:25
Speaker
You can't! You can't! Especially when you're playing a Boston team, they're
Celtics' Championship Necessity
00:20:30
Speaker
going to poke by you if you think a switch is going to come faster. It's not. You've got to play it yourself. And that's what we talked about. And that's what it looked like throughout that entire finals. Shout out Boston. You have fun. They might actually go back to the finals next season if they make that roster out again. But right now, they have the best team still in the East. Starting 5-1, they're the best starting 5-1 in the East, which is why I think this free agency is so important for all teams, West and East. so Let's talk about free agency. Who? Obviously, the biggest domino is Paul George, right? He's been linked to a couple of different teams, most notably the Sixers. There's some other floaters around here. You want to hear the biggest joke? The biggest the biggest domino was the Lakers head coach. Shout out J.J. Redder. Yeah, the biggest domino to fall. Hey, you laughing. We didn't know who would ever go again. We. We all do, though. We did not. we did not you know
00:21:23
Speaker
Hey now, when Rondo's an assistant coach also slash player on the roster, we just know he's suing up mid mid. He wouldn't be the first. He wouldn't be the first coach slash player on the Lakers to check it into a game. No, he might be. Well, they have a guy who wears six for 23. Who does that? Fair, fair evaluation. But um he's also ah supposedly the GM. Hey now, who knows? But the Lakers making that higher. I think it was a good one. It's just like, dang, JJ, wasn't it? it It's a good coach you hire, wrong team in my opinion. I think Jason could be a coach in the NBA. I just don't think he should be a coach for the Lakers in the NBA. Go coach, go coach Charlotte. Yeah, I think he should have took the Charlotte job. Because then there's no expectations. The Lakers have expectations. Their fans are the most delusional fan base when it comes to the NBA because they think they're winning a ring every year. Or some of them would just be like, oh, I'm cool with the 7C, at least we're in the playoffs. Why are you cool with being losers? Like, no.
00:22:17
Speaker
has a just fa i don' um ah I'd rather miss the playoffs at this point. They keep making it. I'm just we gotta call it out. We gotta call speed to speed. So JJ going there. It's a it's a it's a hot topic to see how he plays and then you know rumors are coming out saying all the reason they've come out as a hostile next season. well He's not playing. He's coaching coaching. I'm sorry. He's going to come out and coach and he can do really well if they feel the roster alright. The roster right now is this. We thought it was good or I did. I believe it was good that the loss all season they had. And then I found out guys just didn't Joe. The same, if they keep the same course, it's going to be the same concept. You and JJ. It's not going to switch. Well, shout out to JJ. And then Chris, PG, I don't know what's going on. I don't know. He's still the biggest free agent. I've said it from day one. I don't think he's leaving the Clippers. I don't think so either. There's reports now that the Sixers are kind of off ball, George. It's because of what he said in his comments. Did you listen to the podcast? Or did you do the quit? No, what do you say?
00:23:14
Speaker
So, you know, Paul George has his famous and podcast is actually very good on his podcast and it it's kind of misconstrued it but he ba he stated that He's not really in it for the championship chasing right now. He's not trying to ring chase. He's just trying like kind of get his bag Play a good style of basketball that can complements him And that's cool. But when you come out and say you're not for the ring chaser, you're not really trying. It's not all about the winning the championship at 34 years old. Teams are hearing that. It's like, dude, we we're asking, we're doing. That's what we're trying to do. So if you're not there, I can't pay you. I can't guarantee you a max five year, 200 million. And you talk about some, I'm really trying to combo my game. I don't care if I win the ring this season. I'm just here for the money.
00:23:54
Speaker
Yeah. And that's basically how it's going to, that's how I got misconstrued it. And I know it's probably not what he meant because he kind of, that's why he kind of followed up by saying, I'm just trying to find a team that, or a a game that fits mine. Well, you come out and say, I'm not here for the ring chase, dude, it's over. Like you, you're going to lose a lot of the value and the Sixers are like, okay, let's pull back a little bit. Cause now we, weren' we know you're using us for levers now. We know. And I'm glad to say I didn't think this, I didn't think the Paul George thing was ah was a great move. I think that it's so dumb, dude, though, like he could have left and got paid and won a chip. you know or potentially He don't want to win a chip. He want to make, he want to make money. And you can't, I can't fault him for that. That's fair. I mean, again, look at his media source, like podcasts is coming, the new main source. And he's he set up a life in LA. He's from l LA. He's home. Why would you want to leave that?
00:24:41
Speaker
When again, you're also playing with one of the better small force NBA and potentially the best points. And it's not like the Clippers can't win a title. Yeah, they just need to fill out the roster. They just got to fill out the roster. They have a talented roster. They just got to compliment each other more. Right now, they got a lot of guys that can get it, but not fill out. like like Think about it. If you just think about it in this way, Harden's your best playmaker. Then you have PG, Kawhi, Terrence Mann, Narmat Powell, Russell Westbrook, Zuwaksa, the center. And then it was PJ Tucker. They lost a lot of their role players. And then the guys I just named, three of them are ISO guys. four Three of them are ISO guys. And Kawhi, PG's a good catch of the shooter, but he still cannot run an ISO. Harden's basically an ISO guy.
00:25:26
Speaker
Norman Powell's an ISO guy. Like, Powell off the bench was not looking to pass the ball. He looks like Powell was looking to shoot. Like, you got one job, shoot. Terrence Mann is a good defender, but he still hasn't developed as the catch and shooter you want him to be.
Offseason Strategies Across NBA Teams
00:25:37
Speaker
So you got a lot of ISO guys and then one kick out dude, which is hard, but then he still needs to get his touches. So it was, it's hard to fill that roster out the way they want it to. Now you have this all season to do it, which is why bringing back PG is going to be crucial, but they're not going to overpay for PG because they're seeing how the market's playing out. And now that he just made those comments. The market looks better in the Clippers favor. They're like, oh, dude, you you kind of just set yourself up right there, your podcast. Now we can kind of give you a little bit less if nobody offers you the max. But who knows if he ever planned on leaving? Yeah, we both said, I don't think he really did anyway. We both said it. I was like, I i didn't, I wasn't really chasing the PG tour as much as everybody else around the Sixers fandom or NBA world was reaching for. Someone who damn Paul George, come on.
00:26:22
Speaker
oh god Trade for Alice Caruso to the Bulls kind of crazy already again because of the new NBA rules with the contracts you can kind of start making these moves now the trades you could always make but Players getting signed early is kind of something you could do within the new tax apron That's right. I think was a wash for the Bulls. I'm not gonna lie It's cool for them to get a point guard, but it's a wash knowing that you could have got more for Caruso earlier. I don't I mean earlier dude offers They could have got more for Caruso. Yeah, but how do they do giddy? Is it because I think them getting giddy means this ain't really looking good for lones. Oh No, I was I think done and I've done as it done. I think Don's are gonna become off the bench. Anyway, no I was going back to the bulls and i think done the contract so yeah, but I don't think I think they want to try to move them
00:27:09
Speaker
then That's fair because again, like he's finally healthy enough where they're saying he can mow is mobile He might actually see the court soon and that's very good for ones. I heard he couldn't walk No, no, they said they the reports have been out that he's now better. He's running. He's shooting shots He's like he'll be able to potentially see the court this season potentially what I was making the starter I'm beyond I'm gonna start him right away. He was a good move for the Bulls in essence of like Oh, yeah, we just got a starting pointer who? 6-8 he can pass. He's getting his drumshot together. It will he'll help this team in his rebuild, but Dude what you could have got earlier for Caruso to now a player swap never offers a picks with Caruso Chris. Come on as a lot Okay, the picks the pick the thing about the ps though is I'll take them were you but were you gonna get a player? That's as good as giddy is now and we could potentially be in two different years.
00:28:02
Speaker
Yeah, maybe maybe but again that the Bulls don't have any picks Chris like knowing Yeah, so I'd rather take the picks. Okay, but there's a multiple first for crucial. I don't think the Caruso move is their only move yeah they're unloaded and not a guys They should I think they're going but the value is that Levine is not as high as Cruz remember you they're trying to you had to put Caruso with that Levine to potentially move off of Levine. That's how bad it's got Yeah, but who knows who knows what well who knows who will kick the tires on Levine? Listen, there's there's rumors of Orlando interesting Levine. I hate that. There's rumors. I mean if a team are you tall jazz is there I would you talk like If there's a team that needs
00:28:44
Speaker
a 20 to 25 point per game guy. Yeah. He's there. um being made ray assassin yeah And I think would probably be his best fit, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. But I could see him. I could see him in a couple of different places. I can see on the heat uniform to be honest. How you make you make sense. Miami makes sense. Depending on what I do, I see him here. I'm sorry. I don't know what to do with. Depending on what I do with Rosair because I think he could play. They extend the rosier, right?
00:29:18
Speaker
I'm not a hundred percent sure. I don't want to say yes, but I think I think that is a ah viable possibility if they are able to make a move
Team Dynamics and Strategies
00:29:28
Speaker
I don't think I think he has to be I don't think it works with him in Chicago because I Mean him and him and the Rosen don't really know they're doing the same player. Oh, no, there's under contract Before at least another two years, so he's fine He got an extension from the jazz. I'm sorry the hornets earlier. All right he can He'll be playing out this 2024 season, and then they's still he's still in a contract in 2025, and then he's an unrestricted free agent in 2026. So yeah, you got it for two years. You're good. Even a team, like ah I can't even think of another team that I'm trying to just go the whole way. Again, it's it's hard to find that fit for Zach Levine knowing he's not a great two-way. Yeah, and and who knows the help who knows his how his knees are going to hold up. We know how. And that's it's hard to argue that.
00:30:16
Speaker
very tricky situation. I think he he would have to go somewhere where he doesn't have to be the guy. there's rumors that um just decide no There's rumors that Jimmy's not returning to the heat and that's not even because of him not wanting to come back. That's because the heat might just say it's time to move on. I mean those have been out there usually like it's I didn't think it was out there that they would want to move on from him I thought he would listen I saw the way you don't say that unless you are like they I'm kind of ready to cut the cord like listen listen Jared you work jobs I work jobs if you have people who work under you who don't show up to work and
00:30:58
Speaker
And na they expect superstar treatment. It's cooked. You're going to get them like that crazy. and But I mean, Jimmy shows up to work, though. This is not something we've ever denied of him. But <unk> showing up yeah it includes availability, having your body be right. Now, who said and maybe that's not his fault? it's not No, that's not his fault. The injury, the injury like again, that injury against the Sixers was unfortunate, but his injuries are not his fault. The dude plays his body to death. Yeah, but but there's always been questions about his effort level throughout the regular season. Yeah, and that's the mission. You want to talk about team that demands 100% maximum effort at all time. It's the heat. Like, damn well hear that. he's not Damn well hear how you trying to coast. He, I'm talking about, we know he coast. He could be a guy that could give you 25, 26. He's only giving you 21, 22 a season. You coasting. But you're coasting. How many games, how many games have he had has he had where he had like 18 and six? A lot.
00:31:55
Speaker
a Lot this season like it was like we're questioning why you won't get that guy max money if you he that's your one national one, too Yeah, um like i'd I'd be I'd be a little ticked off if I was Pat Riley too, especially when Jimmy went out there and Said yeah, if I was playing remember he did the video. He said yeah, if I was playing Boston have been different shit it'd be a different series Yeah, you can't say that from the sidelines man. You can't it's hard. That's a bad look very bad look All free to see that's gonna be and this is gonna be a real goal like again We had a couple goes with this one real good free to see I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, that's what I'm paying it to be i don't I don't think it's gonna be real good as in like
00:32:35
Speaker
Trades. I think it's going to be interesting to see what teams are aggressive. Well, that means maybe. But here's teams I expect to be aggressive. Because this draft is different. This draft is ass. This team has to be aggressive. Teams I expect to be aggressive, though. I keep throwing Orlando in the mix, because I think they need. They have to be. They need another scorer to go with. And this is your team. I give you credit. I clap it up to you. All season, you've been rocking the magic wave. I had two teams. You've walked the magic way, but you did a good one. I had a Orlando in Indiana. I saw it. You rode in all season. I appreciate that. Because sometimes you flip fast. You flip this time. Even when they were in the down street, you stayed hot. I respect it. Because they have, if you look at their roster, right? Let's just say, you like Ben Carroll. You like the Carmelon Ben Carroll. I think that they have a very competent roster.
00:33:31
Speaker
Yeah, because they have a lot of two-way wings that can defend yeah, they have but they have a lot of guards with none of their guards are like Top-tier got like they got a lot of that's what they need. Oh, they need a top-tier guard. Yeah, you got a lot of they got I mean jailous uggs and they got Why backer? Gary Harris Markel full slate. Come on, bro They got everybody you want. That should be one player, but they're not. like they like got you got they got ah They all got different traits of a great player. So they need to get a guard. I like that for them. They need a top tier guard. The pace is just re-signed. Even if they got Clay. Ooh. I like that more though. But they still need a point guard for me. But yeah, I like that a lot. That sucks play points. I like Clay more than I would like the Levine for them. Because that's what they've been missing, was that catch and shoot guy. That sucks play point.
00:34:22
Speaker
They can clay all you gotta do is go stand in the corner not even stay in corner Just run around like you always been doing it just run around and shoot and they wouldn't even be mad that he's taken Eight threes to nine threes a game like that's what they're asking. It would be they were one of the lowest three point seventeen res point at 34 dude Quaker still shoot the ball and run it's just now he's just like the clips is not as as Trigger happy as it used to be but I Magic should love the jump on clay The thing about Clay is he's very his peaks and his his i'm sorry his peaks were always high. cause he was a Because there were certain points where people were saying he's a better pure shooter than Steph. Which could still be a case to be made there, it's just... But his valleys had been so... Damn, he's he's had a lot of this. We all know the 0 for 10 and the elimination game joke.
00:35:10
Speaker
dude but He's had a lot of zero games this season where it's like, but but if he was having zero games when in or Orlando, it wouldn't be as no he wouldn't pull the team down as much because he's not be Yeah, I'm sorry the the two. Yeah Literally, if you're the magic with Clay Thompson, he goes all for four in a game You're more mad at him for only shooting four threes exactly Like that's what you're mad at. Now for the Warriors case, they're probably thinking the same thing, but they're like, dude, you got to hit. So you're the only, you're our second best score. You've got to hit these shots. I don't care if clay with 0 for 17 Orlando. Yeah. They know, you know what I'm saying? Like they need, they need that threat to open the floor. up they're all Capital on their, their show.
00:35:54
Speaker
Like, if Ben Carroll is trying to work around in the mid-range and the elbow and everything like that, you gotta have threats on the outside. Like, you're dealing with those things. And Phon's shot's not there, and Mo Wagner lost his three. Yeah, he just disappeared. Like, I don't know. He was hitting them throughout the season then. Yeah, but how, Ryan, do you want to be on Mo Wagner to be on his three? I'm not. I'm just saying, in general, that was a guy that they was having to shoot. How, Ryan, do you want to be on Jonathan Isaac to be shooting? Ingle's shot disappeared. How, Ryan, do you want to be on Joe Ingle shooting threes? It sounds a little inconsistent. Wendell Carter. but oh gosh You know what I'm saying? Tell me a guy that you would be like, I gotta to defend this guy on the three. I'm relying on you on Gary Harris to be making threes. I'm relying on you on Markel Folks. Come on bro, stop, stop, stop. You've said enough. We know. They need a three-port shooter. Quaze the guy. this Are you pilling him that much money? I think so.
00:36:45
Speaker
help I think so. Three year deal. but nada was the four c this year I'm giving him a three year deal. Two year and an option. Yeah, I'll give it to him. How much do you want, sir? Yeah, I'll give him that and then like again, you've already lost out on weak monk. Everybody has he signed the four-year 78 with the Kings great for him A lot of people were saying under pay. I think that's a he got the exact contract. I think I think it's I think it's about fair he's not and I don't think he's a hundred million guy guy. Let's be realistic. but He would have been I think if you were planning on starting him Yeah, but you're not now he's a six-man and he's a very good one So I think that's a fair contract. He got Pascal just got signed cuz you know, he he needed that money and
00:37:24
Speaker
I'm waiting to see if OG gets signed, but again, dude's asking, they said close to like 35 to 38 million. Good Lord. Good Lord. He's going to have a lot of shooters. If he goes to open market, he'll have people who are willing to pay him that much. They've already announced TJ McConnell's getting an extension with the pacer soon as he should. Shout out to TJ. I'd show I sent you the report again. This is sweet. This is so early though like normally for you to see rumors Don't start dropping until June 28th because then the talks can begin June 30th after the draft We're talking way in advance already saying KCP Potentially to the Sixers they're praying on bringing back Kelly Oubre but to him in Calari I think KCP will be a good fit Malik Bizi's out for the Bucks Which is kind of I mean it made sense, but I like this game for the buckle use he fit well. I
00:38:12
Speaker
And then like, again, superstar wise, what happens with the Rosen of the Bulls? I think right now OKC is a lock for a finals appearance if they get a ah backup big now. Because the Caruso trade was huge for them. I think, I think, I don't know finals of appearance. I think you're being a big. I'm all, I'm all in OKC again. ah I'm locked back in again. I think you're a bit overvalued in OKC. I like OKC. This is not a distal PC. I was riding with them this season. I'm riding again next season. I think that they, They're kind of in the in the same thing as Orlando, like they need a they need a legitimate shooter when I was legitimate That's what Caruso is. That's dudes a 40% shooter from the three. Yeah, but I mean is he gonna be a catch and shoot? Yeah. Yeah, that's how you're gonna use them then catch and shoot any pleasure, but he's there in one of your better defenders Which is what they needed as well. I like that starting five. That's very fair.
00:39:03
Speaker
Getting out, he just got to fill in the back of a bitch spot. I like the chemistry they have. You know him. It's going, man. OKC, I I like it. Shay Williams, Holmgren. I think it's a very good three-headed monster for years to come. I mean, look at teams that need to be aggressive, I think, as those teams on the fringes. I think it's a team like OKC, like you mentioned, that they're aggressive in the movie Caruso. Orlando, like we keep talking about. I think Indiana might make a sneak. I think Orlando needs, Indiana needs to make a little sneaky move.
NBA Trades and Player Movements
00:39:33
Speaker
Yeah. Talk to me about Brandon Ingram. If you want to say Indiana, you need to make a sneaky move. They just signed Pascal. Do you think you can stack them together? No. But I was just talking about Brandon Ingram because, again, teams that got to make an aggressive move, is he the guy to get? we Now, I don't claim it. I ain't claiming anything. But his eyes be a little red before a tip off. Listen, all right, he he wouldn't be the first guy. He won't be the last guy. If you try to insinuate something, don't even, don't say it. We're not trying to get sued. I don't know. I don't say anything. I don't say his eyes are red. He's rubbing his eyes a lot. He might have avenues. Huh? What? In the stadium? Hey, if you don't know. Yeah, sure. Could be on somebody's shoe, you know what I'm saying? Get in the air. Huh? Interesting. On somebody's clothes, you know? Yeah, very interesting. It's all dust. Huh? Yeah, yeah, you know Paul needs it. You know what I'm saying?
00:40:26
Speaker
I guess the stadium's our queen. He might be allergic to food. He's hanging around Zion. But my point is, if you're a team that's trying to make a splash, and you're trying to go get Ingram, where does he where is this fit?
00:40:42
Speaker
That's what I said. You tell me where the fit is. You tell me where the fit is. I don't want to say 60s, because honestly, I don't want to. OK. But he would fit, technically. Technically. Skirts? ah okay you're on the sur home
00:41:02
Speaker
have Okay No, Houston already denied it there's a the came out the report that they the pelicans offered brain or for like Alpern and sangoon and that was laughed at Well, I would laugh at that too to be honest, but that i don't think it's laughable i think it's so i'd I'd much rather have some goon still as your focal point with ah Dylan Brooks and Fred van Vliet before I bring an Ingram Um, dang. I, and I'm talking about teams that like want to win now. Cause I could say Pistons and that's not a bad fit. It's going to be the coach. They'll pay him. They, they pay him body Williams. Well, no, they just fired him. Oh, there are. They are paying him. Um, dude, it's like, it's hard. I'm thinking, I'm just thinking of winning teams warriors.
00:41:56
Speaker
words are interesting Nobody's named them the Warriors words is interesting because they have they have moves you can make they get an anger and then sign them where is our interest Especially if you move off clay you do Steph Ingram Dre I'm just saying it's Dan Portland Yes, another losing team. I'm thinking like winners, dude. No, I be i mean, but like a poor old pay him man. Obviously we're gonna pay not paying but like they'll also ah kind of game they'll you great form portman gets out it they get They move one of those guys Because in cause and the ah New Orleans we need another guard I think they'll take Brogdon in picks for an anger Cj goes back to the two broadens now you're one
00:42:45
Speaker
um i don't hate i don't I think that fits that team. Wow. now um um I can't dude. It's hard to do. I teams in NBA next Sacramento I think Sacramento. Yeah. Yeah, cuz I'm over the Harrison Barnes thing. I know they just gave him an extension, but it's time to move on. Yes, no you can move that Sacramento. I that's a winning team too. I said Knicks, but I don't know Knicks. Oh gee. Nevermind. Oh gee. They're out. i'm not They're out there. Nevermind. Nevermind. Yeah, it's about it, dude. It's probably somebody yelling like, you ain't named this team. like oh Are you sure you wouldn't name them? I don't know. um I said winners. I'm not really thinking about the losing teams. The losing teams will pay anybody. The Wizards will take up Brent Ingram if they really had to. Oh, Grizzlies. The Grizzlies can make it work. I think it fit. John Moran, Marcus Smart, or John Moran, Desmond Bain, Brent Ingram, maybe you move off Smart again, put Smart over to the Pelicans.
00:43:41
Speaker
like like Yeah, I don't hate that and then that's what they really need a wing anyway you go let's keep girls lets keep go i like this exercises They really need a ring anyway, I mean calves calves use a brain anger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah as you can move off garland. We just talked about the garden Yeah where new orleans take garland I think so. Remember, we just said that they need a guard, because CJ's not a one. He is trying. I agree. I agree. He's more of a combo too. And they need a straight playmaker to go next to Zion at this point. Yeah, right in the penalty. Set everything up for some of these. That might be it for me. I think I'm out. I think I'm out. Hawks. Hawks. That's my last team. And I'm not training number one pick for him, so. Never mind. I mean, I'm not saying never mind this. You can't do it, but I'm not saying never mind. If you're Atlanta,
00:44:27
Speaker
We've talked about this before and I um you you know, whatever here Atlanta. Are you moving Australia? No, I'm not I know like the guy's ups and downs, but I'm personally not I think they are they I think they are going to because it just for some reason they just fall in love with John T but I'm moving off the genre front not for some reason like No, whoa, whoa, but I'm just saying like Value-wise, I still like Trae Young as my franchise guard and just find him the wings and center he need then before I say Dijante's my guy can you play i mean look at the gente's numbers I mean I just saw Trae go to a commerce finals with a team that was like fully fit for him Yeah, but that was more so because the Sixers fell on these things. Yeah, true, but he still did it I didn't in it, but it could have been any team in that Well, if we're going back to the foul baby that Jill and Bresson just got Trae Young, but it dropped 30 some more again Yeah, but i' but but I don't think that
00:45:21
Speaker
I think that it makes Dejante worse to play with Trey. Yeah, it's not a good fit. i thought was I thought it was gonna be, but it's not. And I think that they looked better with Dejante on the floor than they did with Trey on the floor. Which is crazy, because Trey's playmaking is so good, but he's shooting just bad. He's a chucker. Yeah. you want Listen, Jared, we need to update the chucker list. We'll do that later, man. We can't do it today. We've got to wait till you guys get signed first, then we'll see how. No, no, no, we don't. we do we know so We know chuckers. We know who the chuckers are. We'll update the chucker list. Yeah, but I already know Trey's. We know Trey and the chucker. We know this. And before, I was like, I'd have a problem with it. Now I do, and it's just bad. but they just When you're taking terrible shots, there's one thing that's taking a lot of shots.
00:46:02
Speaker
It's one thing, there's nothing taking a lot of terrible shots. Yo, like 20 seconds of the shot clock. Shoot down. He pricks. One step over the half court line. but Oh my god. What are you doing, sir? But he hits him. We're like, whoa. But now they're not even in good moments anymore. jared i guess Jared, I got a sneaky team. And I don't know if they got the space to do it. For Trey? For Ingram. I don't know if they can do it. I would be curious to see how it would look.
00:46:32
Speaker
Denver. Now, how would they do that? They move off if let's say KCP is going, you know, they move a KCP. No, no, no, hear me. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. You have, you have Porter Jr side down in that KCP role. I know he's taller. I know he's more of a three or whatever, but you can play him as a two and get away with it. Yeah, fine. Because you have a- He's a two anyway. Let's be fair. You have an untraditional, you have an untraditional center who can, you know, play the offense. Well, Michael Porter Jr. is a chucker. He's a two anyway. He's a chucker, right. My point, he's a chucker. But how do you make that money with a curse? That's what I'm saying. I just pie in the sky. Yo, like, and I'm talking like KCP has a player option. I don't even know he picks that up.
00:47:11
Speaker
I like KCP a lot. It's crazy how we used to talk so much trash about him, but now the man shoots 41 and a half percent. KCP is what you eat in a and a modern and NBA. For now, yeah. He's a 3D guy. But ah Ingram just wouldn't fit. The only money purposes you went fit. I was just saying without the money, I was just saying how before we end the podcast, Trey McIlbridge is the Sixers. I'm locked in with you now. Make the move happen. Yes. Make the move happen. Thank you. I don't know how, but make the move happen. I don't care. Pick future first. I don't care how. Trade them Jersey. I don't care. Give them the practice facility. I don't care. When I tell you I want to wake up to that.
00:47:52
Speaker
at my time, you know, what or so like that even not even just not even, not even, I'm not even mad at miles bridges. Just get me bridges. I don't care which one I don't, yeah I don't care. I'll take it. You can give me London bridges. I don't care. But you know, Hey, as we end the pot, shout out to the six men, we don't have to buy us the We'll have no word. Don't say that. he's the bloger six je Don't say that. No, man, don't don't turn it. Don't don't don't say it. Don't say I jinxed it. He's not sexy, man. We're not bringing him back. I swear to God, if he comes back next year, we're not bringing him back. Man, you got those hands, actual actual hands. I'm bringing Russell Westbrook before I bring him back. I ain't bringing him back, dude. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't bringing him back. I ain't But the draft next week, so that's all what we'll do the draft bringing him pod Tuesday. I got a shout out to Alex Sauer, who says he wants to go play for the Wizards. And then maybe the first NBA player was CTE coming in. The fact that like players have this much control now in the draft. We're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He said, I want to go play for the Wizards. But the Wizards aren't the first pick. This talks. So basically you're saying I want to be the one pick. I want to go play for the Wizards is grounds for immediate psychiatric help.
00:49:16
Speaker
yeah have food but that'm upset i basically just announced I don't want to be the number one pick an NBA draft. That's what he said. I willingly would go play for the Washington Wizards. Ben Caro, Alex, are the only guys I know this. I don't want to be the one pick an NBA draft. Like this is baffling to me. Guy used to dream about being the number one pick. Now they're like, I don't want to do it. Yeah, but he's like, I don't want to go play for the Hawks. Well, yeah, because I got a log jam at the big. It really, he it really is. It's a whole log jam. The Wizards have no big. But he he's starting immediately. He's a starter. He's starting yesterday. Yeah. And then like Quicapella, Alixar, Okungu, you're fighting for minutes. They're moving one of them. And it's still fair, but you're still fighting for minutes, regardless, because they can't move this far. Honestly, if I'm the Hawks, and I know we're going to end it after this, if i if I'm definitely dead settled picking Tsar, I'd completely move Capella. I'm moving Capella, and I'm still, even if I can't move Capella, I'm training Tsar for more value. Or or I'm training Okungu.
00:50:13
Speaker
yeah oh he has value i've train his i hurt one But the fact that sorry doesn't want to be them on pick so now they might have to go towards Zachariah repressor out of like, I don't know where he's from Julie. Good night or something like that. Dude, that's crazy to me. Good job on your on your analysis. I can't pronounce where he's from and I'm not going to try right now. I'm not. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it cuz I'm just gonna look back on but I do know who he is a good 3nd player just doesn't fit the Hulk scheme cuz they have 3nd guys. They have those already. Do you need another one? No. Unless you're moving off Deidre Hunter. Can you never have too many? Yes. Can you never have too many? Yeah. Because we've seen it with enough teams now where you have enough and I can't keep playing all of you. I need a ball handle. I need a rebounder. They have that. They got a ball. They got a ball handle. They got a ball handle. And it's Dorothy Murray. Yeah, and Rishir is nice. I'm not confident him going number one in front of Saar. I just think Saar would be a better fit if you're keeping Trey up.
00:51:08
Speaker
That depends on what they're going to keep track on. Even if you're not, if you're keeping John T Murray, John T Murray's a pick and pop playmaker, too. Disch Dassar, who likes to shoot the three. He blocked shots. All he's really going to be is a shoot and three block shot in the big. Will he be a top center league? Potentially. Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. Go bear with a jumper. All right. Will that make him a top center? Yeah, because top centers are far and few between. I throw my hands up. I throw my hands up. Good luck, Atlanta. You have a decision to make. And shout out to the Wizards. Frankly, somebody wants to come play with you. Hey, take that. i'll take well They'll take that. They'll take that. Thank y'all for listening to another episode of Straight to the Point. If you liked what you hear, make sure you tell them from the telephone to tune in. We're still a five star rated podcast on iTunes, so if you've missed a suit there, please leave us a review. Make sure you follow Straight to the Point on all your favorite socials, at STP Podcast. Make sure you follow me at underscore Chris Cross. Follow me at underscore JW Hughes. We're switching podcasts now soon, Chris. We're switching hosts.
00:52:08
Speaker
<unk>s on that's session host but That's not that's that's not their concern like that's Man, but they didn't know we might be live streaming soon. Okay, but when we do it, we'll announce it But yeah, we got some kinks to work out. Damn it, Jared. Shut up I'm tired Some of us didn't just wake up from a nap You every time we record this podcast you don't want to just now wake it up how dare you How dare you hey don't swing shots if you can't take them You know what? This is why you live in the worst time zone ever. I said it. There. You heard that East Coast folks? He dissing y'all. He dissing y'all. I said it. There. I said it. I don't care. You're gonna sneak this in the East Coast? What's wrong with you? Not even sneak this. But I gotta go. I'll break this. I gotta go. You gotta go where? You ain't got nothing to do, Jared.