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Chris and Jarod talk about the NBA Trade Deadline, headlined by the Lakers acquiring Luka Doncic & Mark Williams, trading away Anthony Davis and the Spurs getting De'Aaron Fox to pair with Wemby and other trade deadline moves, preview the upcoming Super Bowl between the Eagles and Chiefs and so much more!
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Celebrating 200 Episodes & NBA Trade Chaos
00:00:32
Speaker
He and me 76 bring us in the episode number 200. Up straight to the point. My name is Chris here. My God, J-dub. What up, what up, what up? 200 episodes is crazy. Who's truly making it? 200 episodes and we've been somewhat consistent the entire time. But we got so much to talk about for episode 200. The NBA trade deadline went absolutely stupid.
00:00:57
Speaker
the so the same week as the lead up to the Super Bowl. So right out of the air we got so much to talk about AD, Luca Fox, Ingram, Jimmy Butler. The list goes on and on. Jared, let's start with the main event.
Luca Doncic Trade to Lakers: Causes & Reactions
00:01:16
Speaker
Let's start with the biggest trade, probably in all of our lifetimes and a lot of people's lifetimes, you see a guy like Luca Doncic.
00:01:24
Speaker
get traded from Dallas to the Lakers. A lot of re a lot of people talking in Dallas because you know maybe Luca, and maybe he's a little hefty. Maybe he likes to to not be as locked in as you know as they think he should be in his diet. and Maybe some of the people he hang out with, maybe he don't like, you know he wanna do what he wanna do. and Maybe that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way in Dallas, and they decided to just say, you know what? Nah. Jerry, what you think about Dallas trading Luca Doncic? Dumbest decision ever. But again, this is why the trade deal line is my favorite. And it will be forever the greatest thing ever in sports history, the NBA trade deal line. There's nothing that beats it. It's top two and it's not two.
00:02:15
Speaker
because we're just at our houses. Y'all is 1 a.m. for y'all, 10 for me. Lakers had just beat the Knicks in a good win. When I'm talking about no AD, LeBron triple double, Reeves going crazy. I'm seeing towns look like the fraud that we once thought he was and was, a you know, back and forth towns type of escapades. And then couple hours later, boom, breaking news.
00:02:44
Speaker
You see who could get traded to the Lakers for 80 at first. And that's about it. Cause I can like the other miscellaneous pieces, right? Maxi Cleveland, Marky Morris, those like those guys are replaying. They're not, they're not going to play. Anthony Davis. oh look Well, I think, I think Maxi Cleveland is going to play for for the Lakers. I doubt he's still hurt. They, I mean, he's going to eventually play when he's healthy. They need a big. No, they got a Mark Williams down. They, they, they, okay. They don't have any other, I mean,
00:03:12
Speaker
Yeah. I got Mark Williams and Jackson Hayes. I wouldn't even play Cleveland. I'm gonna be honest with you. I play him at the four. Nah. I still got Rui and Vanderbilt.
Dallas Mavericks' Trade Strategy: Critique & Ownership Impact
00:03:20
Speaker
Not playing him. Not playing him. And Dory Finney Smith. Not playing him. I'm not. Okay.
00:03:26
Speaker
like how was draw You're trying to save your guy, you know. He's a Cleveland guy. break cle but He could block some shots. He could hit a three, man. What more do you need?
00:03:38
Speaker
him to be better, just just all around better. Like that's about it. But other than that, du like, I've never in my lifetime seen a 25 year old player, I can't say MVP yet, but he's MVP conversation every year.
00:03:53
Speaker
just took your team to the finals, get traded six months removed from that because you feel that he is out of shape or sorry, he's borderline out of shape to the point where you don't know if it's conditioning ever going to get where you guys want it to be. And because of that, you want to pivot to where you're going to go into a win now mode now with Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irving, and Clay Thompson as your big three.
00:04:17
Speaker
I've never seen that. I've never seen it with just the the the generational talent that Luca is. Because if you're saying, and they were pushing this narrative hard, that he's 270, he's out of shape, the injury the calf injury alone has enhanced his weight some more, because again, he can't really run, he can't work out, so his condition is down. You're pushing this big back narrative, that's what we're gonna call it, big back narrative. You're pushing the big back narrative, and then it's like,
00:04:46
Speaker
What I don't understand. I can't fathom the reason why you still trade him knowing that this guy took you to a finals. You trade because you don't want to pay the fiveyear three hundred forty five $345 million super mix. And he's only doing that. That makes more sense though, but go with that though. And they, they kind of, they kind of said it right. They kind of say, Hey, we don't know if we've paid look at this money. We don't know. if He's really committed to stay. Lucas saying I was going to stay. I was never going to leave.
00:05:13
Speaker
Cool. I think Google really was going to stay at Mark Cuban was still the owner. How much, um but how much, but how much of that was, how much of that is like you ever, I hate, and I hate when like share the shirt. We should do this on like TV. We he make everything a relationship, but everything is kind of relationship it's what the goes around in the NBA. Right. So you know how when it's like, all right, I don't want to, I don't want to necessarily look like the bad guy.
00:05:41
Speaker
by cutting this person off. So I'm going to make up a reason to give myself an out to make me feel better about cutting this person off. if You get what I'm saying? Yeah, but the man. i was but here's yeah Exactly. dallas that was wanted to get Dallas wanted to trade Luca.
00:05:57
Speaker
and mitigate a lot of the the backlash they knew they was going to get. like You don't make this move. You make this move. like You know you're going to piss off 95% of the fan base. Don't we call him a fat ass? No, but you got it. But you got it. If that's what you really believe, you've got to tell people the truth. like Yo, this this dude is sloppy. Slop. He is Zion.
00:06:20
Speaker
He is he is MB. You know what I'm saying? You gotta be you gotta go. If we pay him this money, we're going to be SOL for the next 5 to 10 years because once you get in cap hell, it's so hard to get out of cap hell without pulling the trigger. So if they're telling their fans, listen, we pulling this trigger right now and getting it over with because we don't know if we give this man five for 345 that we're actually going to get over the hump because we don't trust him for real for real.
Mavericks' New Roster: Win Window & Strategy
00:06:48
Speaker
Like we don't.
00:06:49
Speaker
And then again, I think that only started really stemming from the new ownership. I'm going to be so honest with you because they always talk about Lucas attitude. But Cuban also came up when Cuban owned the team in the mid to late to the early 2000s all the way through. Like you see, you got to cater to these guys a little bit. This is new ownership, new management. I think these are some of these are these people with FU money.
00:07:14
Speaker
Yeah. They don't, they don't care about Luca little piece of change. I hope the Mavs understand that the window is short. Not as short as Luca's window, because Luca, regardless of what Luca does, which I think was going to stay with the Lakers, right? you You went to with one of the highest markets ever. Shout out to Giannis, who once said, I want to see these, ah Luca go to the Lakers, Yogas go to the Knicks, all that stuff. He said it and got one. He's right now, he's one and 0.
00:07:36
Speaker
in what, in his statement of where he wants to see these European guys go. When Luka now like Luka Brown, Luka Brown might re-sign, they go in on Mark Williams, which I like a lot, because they're basically saying, yell, you're our future, Luka. We're going to get this core around you. Yeah, Luka Brown might stay for another year, but that, and that's the only way for the mentor you, we're going to build this team around you. I think Luka stays. The Mavs only have a year window. You, I think you told me two. Two. It's a year.
00:08:04
Speaker
It's a year window. And the reason I say it's a year window is because you have this season, half then you have all of next season after next season, which then we can get the extension. If he doesn't like where he works on now, this off season, he gets the extension. No, even, even beyond the team's done, even beyond the Luca thing, right? Clay's getting older. Yeah. He's a free agent. Clay's the oldest on the team right now. Well, yeah. Oldest start on the team right now. They, thirty six they made, they made moves to go, to go win. They go get Caleb Martin who.
00:08:34
Speaker
who we talked about his his ability to rise in the playoffs, they got a team, they got they got bigs, they got wings, and they got guards. Now, how good that guard depth is, is questionable because Clay's older, like I said, Kyrie's, you know, not... He's a stud, but Kyrie's got some miles on him. So, you know, who knows if he's due to get hurt. I'm not saying he is, but you never know.
00:09:02
Speaker
Yeah. And then you got what? But if you, if Kyrie or if you lose one of Clay or Kyrie, who's next? Who's next? Oh, Jay Nardi, Spencer. Don't say, is Dr. X on the team?
00:09:14
Speaker
He's been playing. They won the day with the uh, they played the Celtics and don text me on the ball. He was bought out. When when the hell did I take some get back from Europe? Anyway, listen, I'll tell you last season. No, no, no. I thought he was. I don't think he got reason. I didn't think he got reason. Anyway, he was in the match last season. I know he was. I didn't know he was one of the man's this season. No, he was hurt. Yeah, he was hurt all season. So with that being said though, they have the requisite pieces you would think you would need, especially in the West because there's no team. There's no team.
00:09:44
Speaker
Forget, forget Boston, like forget the teams in the East. I'm taking them out of it, right? The top teams in the West all got multiple bigs that you can throw at Yokech. Because that's, I mean, that's where these teams are built. These teams are built to beat Yokech in the West. right Dallas got Lively, Gafford, and A.D. Because A.D. is back at the four. OKC got Hartenstein, Chet Holmgren's back.
00:10:09
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yeah
00:10:12
Speaker
Denver's Denver's got yokies, obviously. Do you know what I'm saying? like Lakers got Mark Williams. Jackson Hayes. like You got to have multiple bigs. Not necessarily playing them together, but you got to have multiple bigs. You got to throw at Denver and in now OKC and now Dallas, because you got to be able to defend multiple. Dallas is going to put two bigs on the floor at the same time. Yeah, which they should. And what team can defend that?
00:10:39
Speaker
Well, not many almost all of them. If you're being honest, because like, let's be firm. I like Gaffer, but Gaffer without. No, no, no. But Gaffer still got Kyrie. Yeah, it's cool. You still got the lob threat. You still got the lob threat you would have with with Luca. You still got the finishing threat. It's just different.
00:10:59
Speaker
it Again, I think it's a year window if they don't want a chip. This was for nothing. I don't care about the whole we got defense We solidified it and they do have these things like you still got 90 more. You got the pieces of Christmas Obviously, if obviously if they don't
Luca Trade Details & Lakers' Gains: Collusion?
00:11:12
Speaker
win a chip, it's gonna look weird It's gonna be weird anyway, cuz again, I think that you you traded for aging injured star Aging he hasn't been as injured as he was in the past he plays 70 70 games last year and He don't really he don't get the same stupid injuries like he did when he was in New Orleans. We be and that's fine, baby He sprained his pinky. He'd be out for a month. He's been out for the past two weeks He's been he's an aging injured start injured as and he keep going get hurt rock season. He go. He is. Oh, yeah you where we Whereas Luca nearly gets hurt anyone who could does get hurt. He's still trying play
00:11:52
Speaker
Yeah, he's still trying. Yeah, but maybe maybe Dallas is like, yo, you wouldn't be hurt as much. If you stop with the beers, bro, and it's okay, man, man, like some beer to five beers and in the night, who knows? Here's the difference. Here's the difference, right? It seems as though Luca don't have the, the yokich, like the yokich personnel, yokich seem like he just come and he do his job, but yokich is just so far and beyond. Yokich don't argue with the rest of them either.
00:12:18
Speaker
So I asked him that he when he does it's rare, right? Okay, but also but also but also like my That's a good point about the argument. But your kids argue with the rest too. Not ah not as much like Luca goes maybe not has the dream on a Bitch has like the LeBron are you like he go and get the argument in but he's gonna disappear when he's like, okay, I'm not gonna get what I was He don't disappear real fast. No, he, he, he's seven feet tall. He just, he get quiet. Like the, ah his teammates that did make the argument that he was making. We'll go now. We'll get getting your face. He, he cursed you out. He gonna, he gonna go at you. He gonna follow you around and he won't see that tech. But that's my, but my point is Yoko's don't got the same demeanor personality that you that Luca got. So Yoko's maybe don't have to get away with.
00:13:07
Speaker
as much that, like, you know what I'm saying, like, Luca got a Luca leash is shorter, because your personality may be too abrasive for the people that's in charge and paying you this money I get we're not gonna get his do all this bread and he already irresponsible he already can't handle his emotions.
00:13:25
Speaker
ah you already po i and and then he just took your team to the finals and this is the issue. He took your team to the finals. Was this after Q this after Cuban left or this is like Cuban is after the Cuban adjust left today. He took your team to the finals and now we just say now we don't want him and they they kept the so hush hush on purpose because the local would have blocked this tree. Let's be for real. They didn't make sure it is either here. I'm sorry. He wouldn't have blocked it because obviously you can't be blocked with no trade calls but he'd have made sure the Lakers got more.
00:13:57
Speaker
you or he would have done something. Cause at the end of the day, like you're a superstar style talent. This swap is like one of the weirdest swaps ever where the Lakers didn't have to give up much. A Max Christie, a first round pick and the Andy Davis. And now Andy Davis.
00:14:10
Speaker
The caliber of Andy Davis is there, right? Like it's there, but he's aging when you're talking about 25 year old to a 33 year old, right? It's, it's the, it's night and day. 80 has a chip. Luca just got to a finals. He's pushing for MVPs. Like Luca has the promise and he's not even in his prime yet. 80's in his prime and he's starting, he's going to start trickling out soon. Right?
00:14:30
Speaker
you don't give this up without a multitude of assets being given up and nothing nothing that was drawn up. Chris, we're talking about an NBA where we saw not only go bare, go for five picks, McIlberty's went for five picks. Go bare, like come on. We've seen so many like trades. where thats That's my, that's where I have an issue. This is where I have an issue with the trade is that you didn't get as much value Out of this asset, like Luca is an asset that every other team in the league would have been willing to. We've been willing to move heaven and earth for. Except for maybe, like o okay, see.
00:15:10
Speaker
Like, except for maybe Boston, except for- Shit, looking Chris, let's be for real. They going in too. The OKC, they might- No, gonna call. No, but here's the thing. Dallas initiated the trade. Yeah. So Dallas, so Nico Harrison, who's Dallas general manager, goes to Rob Polinka, who he has a relationship with, going back to Nike. They've been buddies.
00:15:36
Speaker
Yo, let me tell you, let me tell you, just let me, hypothetically, let me talk to you for a little bit. Would you trade AD? Listen, what you just described is called collusion. I don't think it's like grand scheme. I'm all for it. I'm all for it. I don't care. We can try and politically glaze it up as much as we want. It's collusion. And guess what? It's collusion to the point where this is the one time I've seen in the past seven years where Danny Ainge got
00:16:09
Speaker
ah You got God, because he just hopped in this trade big bag it real quick and he got out with nothing basically. you you think so who Dallas probably called him like, yo, I got a deal for you. I can't tell you what it is. I can't tell you what it is. But you get her Shafino and all these other picks. You get your Frito, these second rounders and you make it. You're not the age. Right. Then he's probably walking in like, all right. Yeah. They probably moving like Quinn Grimes or something. You know, thinking we're trying to get into the apron. He's probably under the guise and all that is trying to get in the apron. No, but like if if you if you know, you're getting hood Shafino, you know, the Lakers involved.
00:16:48
Speaker
right so but he's like there if you're still because even if you're doing that though you're moving pieces the Lakers are over the tax paper too mavs are as well so you're like oh one of these games like you're in the mindset yeah but you don't but you don't know like who in this deal yeah you don't know nothing i don't know nothing yep you're talking back i oh hold on Yo, I would've, I would've, yo, do you imagine, like, I would've been like, I would've been on the phone like, yo, did you, did you hear about this? No, I ain't hear about this. What you mean? You would've been like, yo, bro, I need to get involved in this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
00:17:33
Speaker
Just he's preying on the mask because you can't blame point. He's not gonna play point go like that because like blinker didn't know as much either, but he's like na but i can do but hass got like i played The link of play Nico Harrison Nico Harrison went and told Palinka how much he hated muka. He wanted to move him and And the palinka turned around on Nico Harrison. said Well, it's it's well, you said he said and he doing all this.
Anthony Davis in Dallas: Lineup Challenges?
00:18:01
Speaker
I'm taking really, I'm really taking the risk. You're already getting a day. How about how about we ah how about we keep connect? There you go. Another way you word. OK. Gaslight pointed gaslit that situation. He did it marvelously. Polinka Polinka, you get a plus. Listen, there's two winners in the trade down for me. Two winners.
00:18:22
Speaker
OK. One is Rob Polinka, his legacy. The second is Jimmy Bowler. Master class manipulators, both of them, 1A and 1B, both winners in their own respective rights. Hands down. Hands down, top tier game needs to be studied. my Microphone in, study. even Before we even go to Rob Polinka, right? Matter of fact, matter of fact, let's go to Polinka first, because that the the goal statement will be quick. Master or class, dude.
00:18:52
Speaker
Master plan.
00:18:57
Speaker
I don't have no, fault to I want to, I just wanted to know, I just really want to know what was Nico Harris is, is this whole thing? Because he's like, I can get Anthony Davis. Nico Harrison really wanted to acquire Anthony Davis. freedom Anthony Davis gets what he wants because he gets to play the four.
00:19:20
Speaker
but it also, my, my thing here, my question here now is how does AD defend on teams that don't have. Or like teams that don't have match up force. I'm beyond what you 80 still playing the five and we still point to five, no no no but not even in closing situations when he's on the court, what he was, he's with, let's say lively, it's lively him and the three other guys or whatever.
00:19:45
Speaker
defensively. How do you utilize AD? Like, do you just kind of go... He's a roamer. Like, okay, so you gonna have two roamers essentially? No, because like why wouldn't Gaffron roamers? They're just rim protectors. AD can guard the perimeter, which he showcased this season. He's really pushing for that defensive play of the year this year. He's been really guarding perimeter. He can still brim protect.
00:20:07
Speaker
And he's been really making sure on any pick and roll, he's taking the target. But do you want to, I guess, I guess if you're Dallas, do you really want to expose him that much on defense? Yeah. Cause you still got a clay who's been thoroughly solid on defense. Gaffer has been good in the, in the, in that back court for rocking the rim. It's really your biggest gaps on defense has always been Wukun Kairi.
00:20:30
Speaker
which now you've offset the Kyrie of it all, because they can kind of high Kyrie with the Max Christie next to him or Caleb Murray next to him or Clay next to him or AD. Like you can hide them now. You can hide them now defensively. Which is what every team does with their shorter guards. They hide them, right? Like this is why they try we go so top heavy on three and D's and bigs. You hide your worst defender. The only team that doesn't have to worry about doing that currently are the Boston Celtics and the OKC Thunder, because every one of their one through five can guard damn near everybody. Again, they all got defenders.
00:21:00
Speaker
On every other team though, you hide your point guards because these brothers can't really guard for nothing. They can try, they can get a stop or two, but they ain't really locking you down. I'm not mad at the mask for that. It's just, man, you really got nothing for eight, for, for hookah. Cause you so low. Like you sold so low. Like he raw pugas say y'all throw an AD then and he, he upsold AD so well. You had to have, which is why i' my raw pugas masterclassman because you upsell AD so well. Dude is already right now currently out with an abductor injury.
00:21:34
Speaker
And you're like, nah, but he's still, he's having a defensive play of the year caliber season. Max Christie right now is shooting the three ball with a 38% clip and he's locked in on defense. I'm giving you two defenders. And you said Luca is fat and lazy and a slob and all this other stuff. Yeah. So it's like, Hey man, listen, I give, I give Rob Polinka a in the manipulation department. Um, on the flip side,
00:22:04
Speaker
we was talking about, polink we saw my palinka, his legacy. I think palinka, palinka looks so much better now because, because you, then you look at what the team was when he came in after magic, quit, didn't quit, left got fired. Who knows whatever he came in. They, you know, they, they were in turmoil. He, they get this team together.
00:22:31
Speaker
They've reinvented this team constantly.
00:22:37
Speaker
And now they put together a championship team. He did that. And then they have Luka Dodgers and they set for the next 10 years. He's done everything you could do as a GM when it comes to you. Not only have high now retooled our franchise to give you a franchise caliber player.
00:22:54
Speaker
I won you a chip a couple years ago. So now it's like, okay, you these off seasons where we were just caught on the How do you feel about the conspiracy theory that the NBA massaged this trade to get
NBA Trade Deadline Conspiracy Theories
00:23:08
Speaker
the rating? Adam Silver's NBA for sure. Hashtag Adam Silver's NBA. Dude, there's no way. Because like Stern would be told this immediately.
00:23:16
Speaker
Hands down, cooked. you're night We're not we gonna even able to hear about this trade until years later down the line because it would have been vetoed in the shadows. We're not like, what are we talking about? This is a Gulag trade. It's not coming out. Like you're dead on site. Like it's not happening. So again, like this, this trade definitely was for like whatever purpose it was for because this NBA has been, this NBA has been trash. I'm going to be for our room. There's some good games, but it's been really bad. Let me ask you this. What about the conspiracy theory that the,
00:23:45
Speaker
the Adelson family who now owns the Mavericks did this so they can tank the relationship between the Mavericks and the fans and then they can move the Mavericks to Vegas. I don't know if that's the case, but I do know that they were already interested in being in Vegas, right? like they've They're still very heavily involved in trying to get an expansion team there, and they want to put their bid in for ownership. And that's the drill. They are. They've made the majority of their money in casinos. Yep. Which is, that I don't think even if they... And gambling. And gambling. yeah and gambling ah they But they can't own both. Why can't they?
00:24:23
Speaker
I don't think you can own. ah can i need I would need to have to. All all they have to do, essentially. I got i mean, isn't that is that not a conflict of interest? Not if one of them gives up their majority shares to go on the other team. Because remember, it's the husband and wife both are involved with the Mavs. If one ends up selling their shares, becoming a minority owner, and then goes to try and own the i mean Vegas team. is that not your game Is that not a conflict of interest? Is there married? What's stopping it?
00:24:54
Speaker
what but who stops that? They I have the money. At the end of the day, like you're talking about owners don't do this all the time. Josh Harris owns three professional sports teams. Yeah, but not in the same league. He don't don't matter. He don't own Washington and the Eagles. You know, he don't own Washington and Seattle. He don't owns the Sixers and hey, the rich stay rich. It happens like again. Well, they're going to be like, hey, we got LeBron. Remember LeBron wants to be a slash owner of this Raiders team. or I'm not ready. Vegas team anyway.
00:25:24
Speaker
moves are bri being made behind the table as we speak right now currently. I know it's like there's that that conspiracy theory doesn't surprise me as much. All I know is again this and NBA trail line is going down as one of the best I've seen in a long time and then that this is two years removed of the trade down two years ago where I thought that was the best trade down of all
Smaller Trades: Impact & Dynamics
00:25:43
Speaker
time. Like it's it's it's getting better and better each each year. We have the one off season the down year and I thought it was supposed to be this one. It's not. Next year will be the down year trade down next year next year. Yeah, what's up?
00:25:54
Speaker
Also, another move we need to talk about, De'Aaron Fox gets traded to the Spurs. Jeremy, just thoughts about ah about Fox and Wembley. Great move. um I thought it was go was gonna be the Hawks, right? Trae Young was gonna get there, but Spurs moved on from Trae Young quick because the Hawks been just twiddling their fingers, playing the long game and it backfired.
00:26:16
Speaker
And if you're the Spurs, you're looking at the turmoil from the Kings, not only from Fox and the organization, but the players within too. Cause I just, uh, cause I just watched a presser, a Malik monk talking about the air Fox's move. And he was like, Hey, he wanted out. He got what he wanted. That was not my best friends to me. Well,
00:26:34
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, you you you being real, but I mean, you got you got what do you wanted <unk> be modelto from that statement. but What more can you say off this chest out with that one? But what more do you want to say? Nothing, because at the end of the day, the kings suck like dreams of that. Gaveen is it and is a D minus that best for me. D plus, if you want to be for real, like that could be even told to Rosen. You can't. they came on The king saw what the Bulls did with the Rosen and Levine and said, we can do it. Yeah, like we could we can go from where we do it. And hey, I.
00:27:04
Speaker
They got Valentine's, which is a bonuses. Big brother slash friend mentor from their time in the Olympics and everything. I guess the ball is before if they save them from from purgatory in Washington.
00:27:17
Speaker
me but he put himself in there like you walked yourself down to the devil. I'm going to take this. Maybe, maybe the wizard said it. Maybe the wizard said a handshake, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, deal with him. Like, yo, come in. Yeah, bro, that guarantee money. Like, no one else will pay him that much. Come in, take care of Sara, our boy, and then at the deadline, we'll move you. Yeah, and that probably was what happened because nobody else is also going to pay him what he got paid by. Like, the winners gave him more than I actually thought he was ever going to get the free to see. So they had the money to do it.
00:27:46
Speaker
I think the first one, A, King's gotta, I'ma for a little, no jokes. They got a C, Bulls got another F. Because you did all that to trade back for your own pick? They had to get their own pick. They may be looking at somebody in the trash. Bulls are an F-tier organization, poverty.
00:28:08
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Michael Jordan, they walking through that door. Trash. Jared, let's talk about Kuzma going to the Bucks. Is that a good deal for Milwaukee? Good for them to go younger, but not really. yeah i don't everybody's putting me in this or not me Everybody's putting the Bucks in this category. like The Bucks can now make a finals run with Kuzma.
00:28:30
Speaker
Kuzma is having the most prolifically worst three-point shooting I've ever seen. And he was never a great three-point shooter. Everybody's like, oh, Kuzma's a shooter. He's always been streaky. He's a career at best, 33 and a half, 34% three-point shooter. This season, he's averaging 27% from three. Maybe that changed with the Bucs because of the passing, the attempts are going to now be more static to him just shooting quarter threes. And his game's not going to be where he gets the ball as much. That won't be his ball because he has Dame and Giannis.
00:28:58
Speaker
But I'm not, I think the Bucks have a lot of talent. The depth is there and is there. I like Kuzma as an addition to the subtraction of Middleton because Middleton is just old. But until they show me something, which, again, Giannis always proves that when healthy, he's a beast. I just don't know how I feel about the Bucks yet. I really don't, because Kuzma to me, he doesn't look like the championship caliber role player he once was, right? Once he signed his big deal, he just hasn't looked like that. Bro, what do you expect? He played in Washington. He played with Poole. He played on the worst teams ever. I expect you to continue doing what you did when you got that max deal at Washington. He did. He did. He put, listen, he put the shots up. He can't. Hey man. Hey man. It got no offense. Nobody's scared to play Washington. No, honestly, right now Washington this season has statistically add the most 40 point games against them by any superstars. No defense man. Like if you're a superstar, you're getting 30 or 40 at night. Jerry real quick. Talk about.
00:30:03
Speaker
bogey to the Clippers. Good move. is It's basically to get rid of the sorry cat. They just moved him to move him. im miss Another shooter. You add him off the bench. Wing guy can handle the ball. You got Kawhi healthy for now. Harden still chucking. You know what I'm saying? got but through and That was just to get off his contra. They're just trying to get go off the books. I think I think the Hawks made the moves they made because the next storyline is Ant to the Hawks. Bring Ant back to ATL because you don't move bogey for nothing like that. And then you've already got rid of DeAndre Hunter, which was a great move for the Cavs. But the Hawks are quitting space. You're acquiring cap space. Why would Minnesota do that? Unless you trade and trade young. Does Minnesota have a choice? If Ant says I want out, he gone. What do you mean? how do we But has Ant said he wants out?
00:30:55
Speaker
Ain't said it yet, but why would you say that mid-season right now? If you haven't said it yet, why are you moving them? What you mean they moved towns and towns ain't went out. Luke got moved and movie ain't went out. The NBA's different now, Chris. They say the NBA, you can't be playing by the same rules as the former NBA that you knew and loved. This is different. The game changed. Things move, progress, mindset change. like Listen, this 2K.
00:31:23
Speaker
You must realize this is now real life 2K. We're in real time 2K. And 2K doesn't allow the trades that are happening now. I've tried. It won't let me do it. So right now, I think that's the next NBA storyline that at hashtag Adam Silver's NBA is going to push. I've always been saying that Jaylen Brown and Ant want to play with each other and want to go to the Hawks. I don't think it's going to be either one of them.
00:31:44
Speaker
Well, if you break if you trace still there if you're rooting for the Celtics downfall, I'm here. I'm here for it. Have you not seen Jillian Brown's performances of late? His play? His body language? he's she checked out for ah He's in and out. He's checked in. He's checked out. He's not he' not locked in like that no more. ah and ants been checked out. Honestly, he'd been checked out when they traded for Randall. They went on that like five game skid and he was like, yo, we just chucking shots. Like when there's no cohesion. We suck. Like he, he can't end on menses words. He meant when he said.
00:32:20
Speaker
some of the teammates look like they took it the wrong way. Cause the nice game, what Randall do? Chuck some more. So like, what what are we doing? Like, what ah ah why are we surprised? We knew who he was. And there was a terrible
Timberwolves & Anthony Edwards: Retention Challenges
00:32:30
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trade to begin with. So that julia Julius Randall, Julius Randall got the, got the blessing from COBE.
00:32:36
Speaker
Okay, if I had the blessing from Kobe, I'd be chucking shots too. So again, they stink. Temerals stink. Yeah, they won some games here and there, but they're not making a push for anything. They're not doing anything worthwhile. Right now, the Temerals best basketball has been played when Randall's been injured. i think I think it's going to come down to a situation where it this is matchup based from minnesota Minnesota. Minnesota honestly got as good as they got last year because Denver pretty much folded.
00:33:06
Speaker
and cause how cause i and ant were playing at star levels And Dallas put foot in Minnesota as. Yeah. So ah it's all matchup based, especially in the West, because all those teams are. Let me, let me tell you the matchup right now. If the playoffs were to start today, the Timberwolves will be playing the Grizzlies in the first round. They're getting swept.
00:33:27
Speaker
hands down And I'm telling you this when the Grizzlies lose out this first round because I think whoever they play if there's a first round if it's a hard matchup they're losing Why would it want to stay around there? I'm asking out. I am I'm asking it out. I want to trade And I think it's ATL is the number one option. Yeah. The heat going to try and swoop in. They got the capital to do it. They go and try me, but ATL is his number one. I think you'll have more. I think you'll have a bunch of teams. If there is a ah ah say the fact of a bidding war and people know.
00:33:58
Speaker
that Anthony Edwards is on the table and available. I think you'll have a bunch of teams. ATL is going to be his number one option. The Temerals just missed out on they're trying to make a last ditch superstar push move. All chips on the table to get Kevin Duran. They couldn't even do it. I mean, well, no, I mean, listen, nobody, nobody got Kevin Duran. And that's Chris. That's fair. But if you're a superstar and you're looking at that like, yo, if y'all can't do this now, we ain't never going to it. Yeah. but but
00:34:25
Speaker
It's Minnesota like it's not like Minnesota attracts a bunch of free agents anyway Like who knows you can't predict the future you can't say what was gonna end up hand happening with Edwards you have to Let things play out. I don't think he's necessarily gonna ask out but like you said, this is right 2k now. Maybe things are different So I'm gonna tell you this Anthony Edwards needs to follow the Jimmy Butler manuscript. Why? Why are you blowing up? Why are you blowing up the symbolism? You're I need the next deadline to be just as amazing this one. I'm with it. You know, you're not going to, you know, you're going to get, you're going to be very excited either way. You, you'd be excited. You do backflips.
00:35:15
Speaker
when they trade Dennis Schroeder again next next next trade. Oh, I love it. Dennis Schroeder's modern-day NBA slave common is like it's it's just peak because now look at you. You're the rainbow. You've you've he's literally the rainbow within a week. He's been traded I think five times in this trade down. Him and PJ Tucker. Damn. 39 year old PJ Tucker just can't can't catch a break since he said I don't want to play with the Clippers no more buy me out and never got that buy out.
00:35:42
Speaker
PJ, PG, I'm sorry, PG. There's another guy who should have got treated. PJ Tucker, live in the club, eating chicken wings, getting treated. Is he still getting the NBA contract? Like, is he still getting paid? Yeah, he ain't paying him, right? I need that kind of life, man. I need that kind of life. Hit me with Donnas Haslam, ultimate PTO. Oh no, show him beat.
00:36:08
Speaker
Okay, speaking of Joellen B. Jarrett, real quick, how do you like the Sixers' moves? Get rid of KJ, get rid of Caleb Martin. I mean, we talked about earlier off camera, I'm cool with it. I think the Sixers are pretty screwed this season. like The injury bug is the worst I've seen since the Pelicans. That's how bad Sixers have had this season. You don't really course correct that.
00:36:31
Speaker
Knowing that now you're you're what like you're 10 games under even if you make the a seed and you let's say you scrape on against the cab theres they're They're
Sixers' Strategy: Financial & Team Building
00:36:40
Speaker
not 10 games. They're not 10 games out of They're 10 games out of first fleet or well, you're 10 games under 500 your team under 500 your best player is not playing back-to-back until there's five games out of six, please they're not getting the sixth place. They're five games back. Your 3ND player now is Quinn Grimes. I like the Jared Butler move. You've made sure your team has the salary cap under the eight first apron, enormously under the first apron, and Payabu Selly, which I like. He's been the only powerful force so far I've seen and beats career that actually flows with him.
00:37:12
Speaker
But you're not doing much this season. You're not. And that's fine. But then each trades are Maury telling us the fans we he's accepted that. And there's no false promises. And that's why there's no OK, it's fine. But there's it's not like this season is just absolute. You can absolutely punt.
00:37:28
Speaker
No, you i'm not so I haven't said the point, but you call these trades are calling it what it is. The season's a wash. And now what do you look when you, what do you do when your season's a wash? You look to build, you look to grow and you look to get the chemistry you need. Chris, you told me that our big threes only play 10 games together. Nets.
00:37:46
Speaker
we need more it we need them to play more we need the chemistry shoe to grow because now you're just you're telling your superstars hey we're still competing but i really need you guys to be all in your health okay okay fine it's funny that you mentioned the nets because how differently we do we look at the nets if katie footbond uh versus that buck series we look at the net so much differently Bro, we still calling them what they are though. They're a team that never played together with their big three. They never played together with their big three, but how much a lot of that is because they never made it out of that Milwaukee series. If they win that Milwaukee series, which they probably maybe would have, we probably talk we're talking about Brooklyn's big three differently.
00:38:30
Speaker
I think we are, but then I'm also thinking the following season, they got swept by the Celtics. So it's like the the caveat of that is just, Hey. Yeah, but that was okay. That was, they were done at that point and everybody knew it. And that's fine. That's fine. I don't think the Sixers. Sixers are at that point.
00:38:46
Speaker
They're 10 games under 500. I'm not saying we are they're in the yes, and our teams haven't played our guys haven't played Okay, why and then all in honesty, I just had a whole argument with somebody day by Sean that McCain should be a starter He should axe out brother. You lost your mind McCain axe now because he plays started minutes in losses and was dropping buckets. Yeah, you can score 20 we sucked and Now what we we say he should start next season, maybe, but I'm still not like, I'm not ready for this team to see what we got a way to wait and see what's going on with this team first. The Sixers did exactly what they should did this trade down on. I want to back this comment up because what changes next? I mean, what move would they make? Were they bringing somebody who's going to start over him? Well, we already got two guys start over him now. Who?
00:39:41
Speaker
uber and pg both start over mccain even if mccain's he season mccain but mccain's not really a wing those guys ah starting to wing He's a He's a two. He starts at the two. I'm sorry. Not anymore. PG now starts at the two. Uber is a three and Yaboo's a four. And then they have Embiid the five. That's what the last lineup was. And then with Embiid out of the line of the last game, it was Maxi, PG, Uber, Yaboo. If that's the case, you said Uber.
00:40:09
Speaker
um I don't know if I'm doing it. Just why defense. Maxi and McCain defense was horrific in every game. McCain's defense was fun. Maxi? Oh, so you said Maxi? No, hell no. So I'm bringing McCain off the bench as a six man getting started minutes. Like every other team does. Like he should get started. And yeah, I get it. He had a great piece of money. The automatic dismissal to just to just give Oubre this spot.
00:40:38
Speaker
When we've both we've both acknowledged that Uber, it's not at like Uber, it hasn't been hoping this past two months. Okay. hold Let's not at night. Uber, it's still ain't that they're chucking and taking terrible shots. Well, that's everybody. So at this point, that's fine. But my point is, my point is me and you have both come to the conclusion, and made the argument countless times that Uber plays better and provides a spark off the bench as a six man.
00:40:59
Speaker
Yes. And I think that's what same thing. not and i And I think, but I think McCain's impact as a starter is greater than Uber's impact as a starter. And Uber's impact as a six man is greater than McCain's impact as a six man. not say But I can't say that with the small sample size, I just saw McCain. So I was able to tell him McCain was great. yeah but it was went what the sample size was like But the sample size we saw of Uber off the bench was great. And yet these last two months I've seen Uber as a starter give double doubles, efficient defense, like a locked in defense and his scoring has been fine.
00:41:30
Speaker
What do we, what are we talking about? When again, if we're talking about the sixes and what the sixes really need, we need the defense more than we need the shooting. Cause the shootings don't come. we We split in there. So good. Good thing. No, no, the season is going to come. I, I, I, me personally, I don't care who start just win games. We just win We just don't win. Did we, did you not watch the heat game last night? We lost. Why did we lose? We had going into halftime. That team had 13 total over to our two. We were down 10 points.
00:42:02
Speaker
Make it make sense. Make it make sense. I can tell you why. Even if we got guys that hoist shots, they ain't hitting them. Guys that hit consistent shots, they make enough and then not in the fourth quarter, we blow leads so often, dude. It's like blowing your nose. It's just, it comes right out the league goal.
00:42:24
Speaker
And yeah, that comes with talent, coaching, and it's just like an effort. We don't got it right now, because everybody knows what the season is. Awash. Nobody's bought in no more. So that's why I think, again, what I told you, the biggest thing for me is I just need to see the guys that we know, the three guys we really care about the most. Just play their games together and just get the chemistry they need, because when we just watched the 16th of the day last game two nights ago, beat them actually fine. They look good together, as they always do.
00:42:54
Speaker
PG and Maxi still look like they're having trouble struggles on the court as a a duo. PG and B and Maxi have not played good together at all as ah as a trio, right? They just have it. What do you mean? Think about this way, that Boston Celtics game and B and Maxi played great. Kale Martin was our saving grace. P.G. look like trash. Look at his numbers, like defensively he was locked in. Look at his shooting numbers, his offensively, his offensive. often he's He's been streaky all season.
00:43:23
Speaker
It has been bad. It's been real bad. There's been one from what 24 nights to 18. This is bad. It's a big drop off. But I understand that. But that come some of that is because he's having he's playing with a ah guy like Maxi who's taking more shots. I can be who's taking more who's taking stuff off his plate. He's going to have those shooting work like his numbers are going to be down.
00:43:49
Speaker
But you have a guy like PG and you say they didn't play good. They haven't played good, I guess, quote unquote. There's seven and three in the 10 games where they started and finished. So 70% of the time where they're on court in games, they're winning. You can't tell me that those guys aren't good. Now you can go back to your next point about them not having the sample size, which is completely fine. But I think that.
00:44:18
Speaker
to just automatically dismiss this team because they're 10 games under 500. They're in the East. They can easily rattle. They got a stretch coming up. I'm sure we'll have Charlotte and Washington and Toronto and a whole bunch of teams they can just beat up on. so so to To say that they wouldn't be hovering around 500 after a good two week stretch,
00:44:46
Speaker
I think that's a little premature to say. Now, time is running out. We're at the All-Star break. So how much of that is going to be a hindrance? Because they're running out of time for real. But they can do it. I think to automatically dismiss Paul George, because of him being streaky and just saying that him and then Bea and Maxie don't fit as a trio and don't fit well, or haven't played well, I think it's a little bit premature to say.
00:45:16
Speaker
Now I will, classic, I do agree with the fact that they're running out of time. Like if they're going to put some things together and start building and start going on a run, it's basically now. It's now or never. So we'll see. Oh no, I ain't dismissing Paul George because I still believe heavily in Paul George. It's just when you hyper extend your knee in a preseason, it tells you everything you need to know about the season.
Sixers' Potential vs. Other Teams
00:45:44
Speaker
I think that's just point blank period.
00:45:46
Speaker
and Guys get her going in the preseason your star player hasn't played in the preseason or any games after that what we missed and be for two months after reason You're the writings on the wall The optimism you have is switched with me and you and that's fine I'm just not there for it this season. I'll be back next year I'm locked in for the games. I watch I'll tell you the extinct like that's fun, but I And yeah, they stink. I'm not, I'm not disputing that fact, but I'm not saying that they're done. Like they're not, so we could be worse. And that's my, own that's my hope. We can be worse. That's your pelicans. That's your hope. I'm sorry. My hope is that we we're not worse, but we could be, we could be the pelicans. We could be the bulls.
00:46:32
Speaker
Uh, we could be the Hornets, but we could be so much worse than we're not. Yucky. So that's, that's the caveat. That's the caveat for me. We could be the wizards. We could be the wizards and then I'll say wizard we could be the pelicans. So we could be, we could be these teams. They stink. Speaking of teams that don't stink Jared. Let's talk about the super bowl, the Philadelphia Eagles.
Super Bowl Predictions: Eagles vs. Chiefs
00:47:00
Speaker
taken on the Kansas City Chiefs, a rematch of the Super Bowl of two years ago. Eagles came up three points short in that Super Bowl. This time they're back, new defensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator, new running back, some new faces on the offensive and defensive lines and in the secondary.
00:47:27
Speaker
Kansas City is there going for a three Pete. Something that no team has done in the NFL in the Super Bowl era. And that hasn't been done since the 60s. Green Bay Packers where they won the last NFL championship in the first two Super Bowls. So Jared. I know where you're going to. I know where you're going for game prediction, obviously.
00:47:57
Speaker
No questions asked. I've said to of course. But what?
00:48:05
Speaker
This is a hard question, what? How do the Eagles not win this game turnovers? Point boy symbol turnover and I'm not even talking about it. Jill hurts gives up a turnover, which that's how we lost the last year bowl. There was other factors, but that really was costly for us. It's.
00:48:27
Speaker
the turnovers when you're just getting fourth and outs. If the Eagles have more fourth and outs than the Chiefs, we lose. If Hertz turns with the ball fumbles, that was an interception, we lose. And we don't let's say we just don't get it back. Because right now, going into the Super Bowl, both Mahomes and Hertz don't have any turnovers so far, especially throughout the playoffs. They've been really well holding the ball, both Mahomes and Hertz.
00:48:51
Speaker
Your and only option now going into this game is that you need a turnover from either one of these quarterbacks. If you're either the Chiefs or the Eagles, if you're the Eagles case, I think you can really force the turnovers for homes in this room. I really do think you have the option to do that. But you can't have um as many fourth and outs. Like if the Eagles have more fourth and outs, which I consider turnover, then the Chiefs are gonna lose. Well, fourth and out is a turnover on downs, so.
00:49:16
Speaker
I'm sorry not for without three and outs. I still would consider that and in a game of possession in turnover battle that will be still considered the divining factors of losses for them which is something the Eagles have struggled with. Not not'm sorry not in the commander's game but if something the Eagles have struggled with is their three and outs. Where our games get stalled out if we don't have the Saquon run or if Hurts just the confidence isn't there in his throws. I think the perfect thing for it Hurts was that game versus the Commanders where you got to air the ball a little bit, confident throws. I think that helped. I really believe that the Eagles win because they're going to force eternal reverse Mahomes. I don't know if the defense is going to score, but I think they're going to be able to force one versus Mahomes, which they couldn't do in that first Super Bowl, right? The stadium was wet. Guys were slipping. Reddick almost had one, maybe not even two, and he slipped, right? I think that's
00:50:07
Speaker
We have a better chance now. We're in a dome. We're in New Orleans. Storylines are there with Zach Ball and a CJ Gardner Johnson. you You have a lot riding on this because if you're the Eagles as well, do you want to be the team that not only started the three-peat but ah had the three-peat happen on you? You don't ever want to be that team. So I think that you already know where I'm going. Eagles winning it. But that's that's where I think that's what really determines it for us.
00:50:34
Speaker
I think the thing that determines this game is that the Eagles' ability to effectively rattle Mahomes. It's something that you don't necessarily always see because you're you know he's going to have the the opportunity to make the big play, to make the opportunity to to to strike when the opportunity shows. And the way that the Eagles won their first Super Bowl is they made the play on Brady. They rattled him.
00:51:02
Speaker
And they, they stalled that drive with two minutes, right before the two minute warning and basically allowed them to go from a five point game to an eight point game. And the Patriots couldn't come back from that. I wouldn't be shocked if it, if it played out in a similar way, because that first Superbowl they played was a shootout. This Superbowl they played with New England was a shootout. I don't.
00:51:27
Speaker
if this game becomes a shootout, you, you tend to think that Kansas city, it favors Kansas city more because generally they like to play the grind it out, slow it down, look the clock game, but that's where the Eagles live. Like they live in, hold the ball, Tom possession, bleed the clock. Oh, that's what, like they, that's where they live. So it's, it's, it's, it's going to be very,
00:51:56
Speaker
Interesting to see it's kind of like their styles make fights kind of a theory where they both play some more styles but if you make if if they Start to pivot and it becomes a shootout. I wonder if the Eagles I Wonder if the Eagles can play Shoot out shoot out ball basically as a run first team like it's hard But I mean if any team can do it, it would be the Eagles out No, I think the game's gonna be a high scoring game as well. I think it's gonna be a shootout to be honest with you I don't I don't think Andy Reed is the coach is gonna we're gonna go into their territory of a dogfight He just mentioned because that's what it is a dogfight. We're not getting into the train But that's where all their that's where all their wins this season have been it's dogfights now The only to the one game where they had is somewhat of a shootout was the Buffalo game right again that but why why did they get into that because Buffalo's
00:52:49
Speaker
has been in dog fights as well. And the trench game, right? Buffalo's like Josh Allen, that offensive line that the Buffalo's been doing, they've been letting, it's been a lot of just doggy dog. We're pushing, we're grinding it. We're going to be running it. The Chiefs weren't trying to allow that. They, they crowd the box. They're not, they're not, they're stopped to try to hold that running. in Like the Chiefs having a lot of running back to have a hundred yards the entire season. I don't know if Saquon's going to be the the determining factor, and I'm saying determine as in he's going to do it, right? He's going to get a hundred yeah yards plus on the Chiefs, but he's going to see his, right? And if that's the case, then if you're the Eagles, you're more than let us say that the Chiefs win the tallest, you're going to, they gave, they defer to the Eagles and you'll get the ball first, right? If you're the cheese, what are your first play? You're not letting the Saquon run. You're crying in that box. You're going to force you and hers to throw.
00:53:41
Speaker
That's what I think is going to spark the. It's it's going to be an over game. If the Eagles passing is where I'm expecting it to be at, because it turns out to throw the ball, I think it's an over game. I think I think I think the Eagles throw the ball early established that they can throw the ball and then here you go out of second. If you have to give a prediction score wise, would you have?
00:54:19
Speaker
Because I am. I think it's going to be.
00:54:26
Speaker
3328 Eagles minus 2824 Eagles. That barely beats out the spread. I'm not sure that barely beats out the 49. 2121 cheese. Kick a field goal. Go up 2421 Eagle score. Test down 2824.
00:54:43
Speaker
I think the, um, I'm letting you know thoroughly now to all everybody that wants to listen to me. If you ask for any betting advice from me, every one of my parlays will have Eagles money on attached. So do that. What you will, you just lay on. Oh, now if you say, Oh, I'm trying to tell every bet has Eagle money on it. tax kansas city pu Oh, easily. All right.
00:55:09
Speaker
all right Uh, before we wrap any, before we wrap it up, uh, a couple of things to mention, Josh Allen named NFL MVP. Tough. Uh, that is shorter. Just got traded again. What do you mean by that? Uh, every five minutes that man just get traded.
00:55:30
Speaker
I think they're just, you know, announcing all the finalizations of trades. It's probably his final destination. Like, like the movie. Did, uh, who won a defensive rookie of the year? Was it Queen Mitchell? I have no idea. I doubt it was him.
00:55:47
Speaker
let's start I know Patrick's with him when defensive player shout out to him. He was having a great year. I mean, the the Broncos don't go as far if it wasn't for how locked up he's been on the outside in the secondary. Yeah, he's he's doing well. Saquon won offensive player of the year, obviously, obviously, obviously. um Jane Daniels, offensive rookie of the year, hands down, working with the commanders did. One of the greatest stories I've ever heard. He had the best rookie season I've ever seen in the quarterback ever in my lifetime. Good for him.
00:56:17
Speaker
um I don't know who won an offensive, defensive rookie of the year. I don't know who won it. Also, was this the first cornerback to win a defensive player of the year in the past five years, I believe? Could be. Like, who was the last secondary player to win? It was a Cam Chancellor. And there's just been basically defensive linemen and linebackers for the past, like, five, six years plus. Could be. Because I know it was like, what, Watt, Garrett, Donald,
00:56:47
Speaker
what again or not even why Garrett against like that. i guess It's been a list of just all on defense lineman or linebackers and. ah Kevin O'Connell coach of the year. Really interesting. um Eric Armstead, Walter Peyton man of the year. Mentioned Josh Allen being the MVP. um Jared verse. I think that's who it was.
00:57:16
Speaker
do one one looking do has Yeah, for he played for the Saints, right? The reverse place of the Rams. Really? Thanks for thanks for playing the attention. No, I just know his name. I know it. The Rams did nice. The Rams that played in the divisional round stay reversed the sec. Jail hurts three times. hey Hey man, listen right now that you can sack a cold and still staying. The Rams still trash.
00:57:46
Speaker
Okay. They traded a best player soon. Stinky. They traded, they traded Stafford. Stafford, they best played. Are we sure about that? Yeah. Triple crown, that phone, triple crown. If somebody got those, nes somebody got to throw him the ball. Interesting. I mean, he got his, he got his job took snatched. Interesting. take Got his job snatched. Interesting. Did he not?
00:58:13
Speaker
I don't know, but I didn't. Snatched, please. The first, the first time Luca, Luca, the first time Pooka Nakua was out there, everybody was talking about who, ah who? Koopa Koopu? It was called him Pooka Donchich. It was called him Pooka Donchich. Hmm. Interesting. Shout out to the pro football Hovafin class of 2025. Eric Allen, Jared Allen, Antonio Gates.
00:58:43
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and Sterling Sharp, no Eli, no Venatori, Kiki, son. Marshall Yonder, the guard used to play for the Baltimore Ravens and the coaching finals of Mike Holmware. Surprise, Mike Holmware isn't in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I'm a shocking. got to got got two Got two rings, right? No, he got the ring with Favre in the 90s. Got an appearance in the mid 2000s with Seattle.
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ah I mean, I think I think he's on I think he was on the Niners staff in the early 90s. I'm not sure I need to double check that. Well, um is it shocking that you didn't make it? I don't think he has a Hall of Famer. I don't think so either. That's why. But the world is shocked. So I'm like, is it really that shocking? I don't think so. I don't think I don't think, you know, as a Hall of Famer. Like, truth be told,
00:59:42
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He was good. He had, he had two good years, two good playoff runs. The rest of the time he was a 500 quarterback. So I want to put it out there. Shout out to the sharp brothers because instead of the Manning brother, the sharp brothers become the first in NFL history to be inducted into the pro football Hall of Fame. We all thought it would be the Manning brothers. We really did all day. Like at one point we were like, yeah, Elon's going to get in. It's going to be paying a lot. No, it was Shannon and Sterling. Good for them. Good for them. You know,
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They did the Black History Month. Good for us. I'll take that. I'll take that win. Just like I'll take the Eagles win on Sunday.
01:00:23
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I mean, I mean, Jerry, why don't you tell us who you're rooting for? it's Honestly, I have to be realistic. It seems to be. It seems to be very vague at who you're rooting for. I just got to be for real, Chris. I don't know if my body will handle an eagle's loss because the copious amounts of liquor where I would be drinking to droughts the pain. Oh, man. I don't know. Like. It'd be bad. So the Eagles got to win now. I just for health and safety concerns.
01:00:54
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Be honest like this for health is like it's just for reasons of like, you know, all right big just cautious It should win for for now the fans Okay Thank y'all for listening to another episode of straight to the point If you liked what you hear make sure you tell a friend to tell a friend to tell Luca donches apparently to put down some doughnuts That's hard to do crumble cookies. They be fighting Surprise crumble cookies and get traded during this deadline but
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whole Listen, man. Based on Chris's schedule as Chris likes to announce when we're going to be posting from now on. Listen, listen, we're going to have to announce this. his
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Hey, hope you all tuned in. I don't know what to tell you. the point they want a standpoint you know hes straight to us safer this po rewinding