Super Bowl Week Excitement
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It's finally here.
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Who is going to be crowned at the top of the football mountain?
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2022-2023 champions.
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Let's dive right in.
Super Bowl 57 Setup: Eagles vs. Chiefs
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Welcome back to Making Waves, an NFL confidence pool podcast.
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I'm your host, Mac.
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And I'm your host, Bob.
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And it is Super Bowl 57, 2022-2023.
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Season is coming to a close.
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We are heading into the biggest week in football of all of the weeks.
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Teams have been building up to this all season long.
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18 weeks of regular season, several weeks in the postseason, knocking out their opponents, and two teams have made it to the biggest stage in football.
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The Philadelphia Eagles, the Kansas City Chiefs, this Sunday,
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taking it on head to head to be crowned the world champions.
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If you couldn't tell, I'm pretty pumped.
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How about you, Bob?
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I am also pretty pumped.
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The granddaddy of them all, the big game is happening out in Arizona in the desert.
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We got both number one seeds, both teams that have lost only three games all season, both Kelsey brothers, two African-American quarterbacks for the first time ever.
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And Vegas doesn't really know who to say is the favorite, which is very, very, uh, I feel like it's not a common thing for there not to be a, uh,
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Clear favorite heading into the Super Bowl.
Predicting the Game Winner
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we have a really good game on our hands, and I am very excited, just like my co-host.
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Yes, we absolutely do.
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I think it's going to be a great weekend.
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Like you said, there's so many nuggets about this game, about how evenly matched these two teams are.
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That's going to make our job pretty hard to determine who we think is going to win.
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And just like you said, it's made the people in Vegas, their job really difficult because on ESPN, on the apps, all of the sports betting things, it is exactly 50-50.
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They haven't given anybody the edge or the advantage.
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There is a lot to consider heading into this weekend, but overall, I think it's just safe to say it's really a coin flip here.
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I really think it is a coin flip, and it sounds cliche, but it's anybody's ball game, and I know you can say that about any game, but this game is a little different.
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It truly is 50-50, and I think we're in for an instant classic.
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I think I can speak for both of us when I say we want
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a barn burner of a game.
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We want it to be up and down, back and forth.
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And I have my team that I am choosing.
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I love that I can see it.
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I have no idea who you're going with.
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You have no idea who I'm going with, but everything's on the line this episode.
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You Wave Riders are going to find out who will be, possibly, will be finding out during this episode who's going to be doing the NFL Combine, or we're going to have to hopefully wait until after the game on Sunday, which means I was able to successfully
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pick differently than my co-host.
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I've been just poking and prodding at her brain all week.
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I think I know who she's going with and I am very confident.
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It's interesting that you think you know who I'm going with because I'm not even certain I know who I'm going with yet because it is such a 50-50 game.
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I have a team written down here and I'm pretty sure I'm gone with them, but I got to be honest, it's kind of a last minute decision.
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So if you think you were reading my mind before I even knew that, that's impressive.
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I've been working really hard tirelessly all week.
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And yeah, I mean, just so the fans know that I really do know, I am pretty sure one of the Kelsey brothers is on the team that you're choosing.
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I'm pretty sure they're a one seed.
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I'm pretty sure they've lost three games this season.
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And I'm pretty sure that Andy Reid was either currently or has been their coach in the past.
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And I would bet my entire next couple paychecks that all those things are accurate.
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I think that that is a really good bet.
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I think you really hedged your bet there considering all of those things apply to both teams.
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But yeah, I would have to agree.
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I think that you are completely correct in 100%.
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That is exactly who I'm choosing.
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All of those things apply.
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Well, folks, there we have it.
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I told you I've been really poking and prodding.
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And also, actually, yesterday I was chatting with my co-host on the phone, just catching up and talking about this episode as well.
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And she made a statement.
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And I didn't know if I wanted to expose her like this, but there's a lot on the line with the NFL Combine, so I figured that I should.
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But she actually said she's happy to forfeit the rest of this challenge and do the Combine.
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So I wanted to let everybody know that she will be the one.
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I actually don't recall that.
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What I thought you were going to say that you were going to expose me on is that I would be okay with us choosing differently heading into the Super Bowl just to make it a little bit more exciting.
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I do recall saying that.
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I don't recall saying anything about wanting to give you the win.
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Maybe I had selective hearing and I heard you going down a certain path and I decided to continue taking your words down that path.
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So that's what you said.
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In my opinion, I took it as, you know, I took it as sermon and I think what you said has to probably stand.
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To each their own.
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I don't necessarily think that it's going to stand because I'm planning on beating you and planning on watching you do the NFL combine and comparing your scores to the scores of the actual NFL players that have had to do the combine.
Super Bowl Social Experience
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I think that's going to be really exciting.
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I think that'll be exciting.
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And then just last thing, and then we'll hop into the, the hurricane headlines here next.
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But if I do lose, which is a huge, big fat capitalized if, because I don't think I will, because like I said, I'm pretty sure I know who you're going with.
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Can we compare my running stats to maybe a center?
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And can we compare my benching stats to maybe the backup punter?
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And can I pick and choose who I want to, what position I want to compare my, my statistics to?
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I mean, we can Google that.
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I Googled originally just, you know, averages for the NFL.
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So I think I've got like the average across the entire board, but we can look and see if they separate them out by position.
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But right now I've got like the averages across the entire NFL.
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So I think it'd be better to compare that just because like, I really think you should go up against, you know, the running backs, the wide receivers, the quarterbacks, those speed demon guys, because that NFL combine has a lot to do with like speed.
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So kind of like me against Cheetah, Tyreek and like a running match.
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And then like me against Aaron Donald and like the benching contest and just like stuff like that.
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I don't really know if we're going to be able to do like the weightlifting portions because I don't really know where we would do that.
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I guess I could sneak you into my gym, but.
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Don't say that out loud.
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Asheville Rocket Club.
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No, we are not going to do that.
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That's not allowed.
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We are in, you are going to be evicted as a member.
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We are in so much trouble.
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I just paid my membership too.
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Her name is Mackenzie, Mackenzie F.
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I didn't want to get... Thanks for not saying my last name there.
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I thought about it.
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I was like, let's just leave the first initial.
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Thank you so much.
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Privacy Act right there.
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HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA.
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Well, yes, I'm excited to dive into all things Super Bowl, but obviously there's only one game this weekend and Bob and I only talking for 10, 15 minutes.
NFL Retirements and Team Dynamics
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wants to listen to an episode like that?
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So we figured we might as well stuff as much as we can into this podcast, the last episode of the season, potentially.
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And Bob's trying to convince me to do a follow-up next week.
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Maybe we'll come back on for one last quick one.
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I almost said, let's come back on for one last quickie, but I caught myself.
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Whoa, but then you just did say it.
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But then I just exposed myself.
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You heard it there first.
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Not going to happen.
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Not going to happen.
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I'm happily married.
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Oh, I love that you caught yourself saying that and then you just decided to say it.
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And then still just absolutely roasted myself.
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You're like, I am just going to expose myself in front of all the wave riders.
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Well, I'm not going to expose myself because then I think I would be charged for like indecent exposure.
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This is a very explicit episode.
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Five minutes in, this is very, very explicit.
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We are just revved up for a great game and we're just wilding out here.
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We are wilding out.
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That's exactly what I was going to say.
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We're just wilding out for the Super Bowl.
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I'm just ready to eat some good snacks, eat some good appetizers, all the good food, have some drinks.
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It's going to be nice.
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It's going to be great.
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And isn't it kind of nice?
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I mean, obviously, you had your boy Matty in the game last year.
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You had a rooting interest.
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But isn't it โ obviously, you got to celebrate your boy.
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He won his Super Bowl.
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He sent you a ring.
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You had your Ram Super Bowl ring.
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But isn't it kind of nice โ and I know this from personal experience, and I know before last year you do as well โ to just watch the Super Bowl with no real โ
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horse in the race, just eat a bunch of food, watch the commercials, watch Rihanna at halftime, enjoy company, and obviously watch the game.
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But it's just a different, I have had my team in the Super Bowl, the Bears in 2006.
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I was just 12 years old, but I remember what it feels like.
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Just a wee little bulby just jumping up and down with my dad.
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Probably had to go to bed at like the end of the third quarter, but I've seen my team in the Super Bowl.
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Matt, quick question, not trying to kick the horse while it's down, but other than Matt Stafford, what are your fondest memories of watching your team in the Super Bowl?
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Move along, Robert.
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Wow, I'm being knocked on.
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I knew you were going to get a dig in there.
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Yes, for those of you that don't know, the Lions have never been to a Super Bowl.
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They were really, really good before the Super Bowl era, supposedly.
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That was way before I was born, but have never been back yet.
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And I can't wait until they do because we're going to the Super Bowl on Bob's dime.
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Oh, I thought it was a 50-50 split right down the middle, but I guess it's on my dime, huh?
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Nope, if the Lions go, it's on your dime.
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And if the Bears go, it's on your dime?
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That's what we agreed to.
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I don't remember that.
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Speaking of selective listening.
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I'll show you the podcast from last season.
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They have them in there.
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I've got the receipts.
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I've got the receipts.
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Well, in that case, I actually do feel like that is fact or not fiction.
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But yeah, I should probably tread a little lightly because the Lions did end the season red hot and the Bears did lose their last 10.
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Anything can happen.
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It's a crazy offseason coming up.
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There's a lot going on.
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So speaking of, that's a great transition into the offseason.
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For some teams, it's already the offseason.
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And there are some things that have already been happening throughout the league.
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A lot more to come.
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A bunch of trades begin happening.
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Players can start getting traded in March.
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So there's a lot more to come over the course of the next month.
Sean Payton's Impact on Broncos
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But we have seen some movement in terms of
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Players retiring, coaches being moved around, all that can start as soon as the season is over.
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So we have a couple things that we want to cover in the offseason.
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We will, of course, do another update at some point throughout, probably right around the draft, either right before or right after.
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And we'll give you more updates then in terms of what's going on in the offseason.
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But what we know so far are a couple different things.
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So we're going to call this Headline Hurricane.
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Bob and I are just going to quickly go through some of the biggest headlines around the NFL since the season has ended for a lot of these teams.
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First up, you may have heard of Sean Payton.
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He is a very successful coach, previously of the New Orleans Saints.
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He did end up retiring, or so we thought.
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He pulled a Tom Brady, he retired, and he came back out of retirement.
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He has now been signed on and is now the head coach for the Denver Broncos.
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So obviously you have heard us talk a lot about the Broncos and how they kind of shit the bed.
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They shiz the bed.
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Obviously Russell Wilson, the big trade, did not pay out for them as much as they would have hoped.
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But they're hoping now with a new head coach at the helm who's going to be able to get in there and really try to steer him the right way.
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We'll see what happens.
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I'm not convinced that it's just going to be this โ
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immediate puzzle piece that's going to solve all their issues.
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But Sean Payton, I do respect the guy a lot.
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I loved the Saints when he was out there with Drew Brees.
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They got a lot done.
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So yeah, Sean Payton to the Denver Broncos.
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And like I said, headline hurricane.
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So clearly I just whizzed through that so fast.
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Wait, was that all?
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Holy crap, that was really fast.
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I'm jotting down a couple things over here, and then you're like, and that is headline hurricane.
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I was like, geez, she just shot through that.
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I felt like that was way fast, or I mean, way slow.
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No, from my point of view, that was a hurricane.
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Well, thank you very much.
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All right, you're up with the second headline of the offseason thus far.
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Okay, second headline.
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I'm talking about two retirees, and just because this guy, like we were mentioning last week,
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last year he already retired he teased as he came back so I'm not going to spend as much time on this guy but since he is the goat since it does seem like he's officially retired he just signed a mega deal with I think it was CBS for like 10 to 13 like I said it was definitely Fox just signed a mega deal uh I mean no go for it oh sorry I sorry to interrupt but you do it to me all the time so pay back
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I did see that over the next 10 years, his Fox contract, he's going to be making more than he did in his entire NFL career combined, which is just absurd.
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That doesn't make any sense.
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And he's just going to be up there in the broadcast booth doing this, shooting the shit, hanging out, talking about football.
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So he's basically doing what we're doing right now, but getting to be at the actual games and then making just a little bit more than what we're making right now?
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Just a little bit.
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Only about a million more, but just a little bit.
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Because, you know, we make like dozens of millions of dollars.
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Dozens of millions, yeah, obviously.
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So we don't want to give away HIPAA.
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Speaking of HIPAA, we don't want to give away our actual income that we make from the show, but HIPAA.
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But we're doing pretty well here on making waves.
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But yes, he is the GOAT, Tom Brady.
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I think since he signed that deal, this is officially the last time we'll ever...
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see him play on the field.
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But in his career, he ended up throwing for 89,000 yards in NFL record.
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He threw for 650 touchdowns in NFL record.
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He had 10 Super Bowl appearances, which is just disgusting.
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He won seven Super Bowl titles, which is more than any franchise combined.
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Tom has more than any franchise.
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Five Super Bowl MVPs, three overall MVPs.
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He has the most games started.
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and the most wins for any quarterback.
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So obviously he's a goat.
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This year was probably the darkest of his career.
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He had a lot of stuff going on.
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I know this is TMZ, like we were saying, but he had a rough,
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off the field year, but I mean, he will be remembered as being a winner.
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He was constantly in the playoffs.
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I'm sure you would say the same thing since I've been a kid.
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The only thing that's always a constant is Tom's in the playoffs making deep runs.
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So kudos to you, Tom.
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Congrats on your retirement.
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Don't do it again, because if you come back, we're not going to give you another, another farewell tour here.
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Thanks for providing those.
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Definitely incredible to see what he did and just even up until the end.
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I mean, this past year, he was one of the top five in passing yards.
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And last year before that, he like broke all of his previous records and just at his age.
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Good for you, Tom.
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Now, good riddance.
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Next up is another coaching transfer, Frank Wright.
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I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.
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He was let go from the Indianapolis Colts.
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If you remember earlier this season, we talked about that.
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And then he was replaced by, who is it?
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And then, yeah, so he's been looking around for a new position.
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Obviously did not have a ton of great success in Indianapolis, especially recently, just a lot of different quarterback changes and not great.
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But he was he is now the head coach for the Carolina Panthers.
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So down here by me, Frank, what up, my dude?
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We'll see what happens there.
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They obviously got to figure out some stuff with their quarterback situation going on.
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So he's got a lot of things he's got to work through down here in Carolina.
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But welcome to the beautiful state.
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Must be nice to be an NFL coach, have a tough time, get fired, then immediately land on your feet and find another NFL coaching job.
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So yeah, congrats, Frank.
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And nicely done on the hurricane there.
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Thank you so much.
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All right, moving right along to the fourth headline of the off season.
Reflecting on JJ Watt's Career
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Yes, the second and definitely not least of the retirement news comes from J.J.
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He is most known for his time in Houston.
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He was a Texan for most of his career.
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He's been in the Cardinals the last couple years.
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One thing about J.J.
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is he was a workhorse.
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He started at Wisconsin.
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He was great in college, but people thought he was undersized.
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People thought he wasn't going to really have a career in the NFL, and he said, watch me.
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He did have a lot of injuries throughout his career, but he
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He had three AP Defensive Player of the Year awards in his first five seasons, which is incredible.
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He ended his career with 586 tackles, 114.5 all-time sacks, which puts him in the top 10 of all time.
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He had 70 pass deflections, 27 forced fumbles, 17 fumble recoveries, and two interceptions.
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Unfortunately, unlike Tom, JJ could never really win when it mattered.
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He only had a couple playoff wins in Houston, never made it to the big one, never made a Super Bowl, but he definitely is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, one of the best defenders of our era and history.
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Another guy that had quite the career, not quite GOAT status, but very, very good Hall of Fame status.
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So, JJ, happy trails and enjoy retirement.
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Come on the show anytime.
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He seems like a great guy.
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I love following him.
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I actually got to see him at my brother's graduation.
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He came and spoke because he went to Wisconsin.
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So he came as like the guest speaker and all that.
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So yeah, it was pretty cool.
00:19:42
Speaker
But it seems like a great guy.
00:19:44
Speaker
Congrats on retirement.
00:19:51
Speaker
Are you retiring as well?
00:19:57
Speaker
Well, congrats, Bob.
00:19:58
Speaker
I'm not giving you, if you come back, I'm not giving you another highlight clip like I did last week.
00:20:03
Speaker
There's not going to be another one this week?
00:20:06
Speaker
No, not another one.
00:20:08
Speaker
Oh, I was really excited for that.
00:20:11
Speaker
You got to give me a heads up.
00:20:12
Speaker
I didn't know you were retiring.
00:20:15
Speaker
We can have one for next week, but yes.
00:20:17
Speaker
We'll see if we're even having one next week.
00:20:21
Speaker
Headline number five.
00:20:23
Speaker
Two seconds long to be like, yes, this team won.
00:20:26
Speaker
Oh, well, we'll talk about it.
00:20:28
Speaker
Okay, we'll talk about it.
00:20:29
Speaker
Headline number five.
00:20:32
Speaker
D'Amico Ryans, I believe I'm pronouncing that right.
00:20:35
Speaker
Hopefully Bob told me that's how to pronounce it.
00:20:36
Speaker
So if I'm not, blame him.
00:20:38
Speaker
He has been hired by the Houston Texans as the head coach over there.
00:20:44
Speaker
He was, I believe it's the defensive coordinator prior to this, of the San Francisco 49ers.
00:20:50
Speaker
So obviously has had a lot of success there, coaching the 49ers, doing really, really good.
00:21:01
Speaker
And yeah, it's pretty good to see that he's got a new coaching job and we'll see what he does in Houston.
00:21:06
Speaker
There's a lot up in the air with their quarterback situation as well.
00:21:09
Speaker
It seems to me that these things kind of relate, the head coaches and the quarterbacks.
00:21:15
Speaker
So yeah, it'll be interesting to see.
00:21:17
Speaker
We'll have to see it.
00:21:20
Speaker
And sorry, I just wanted to say one quick thing about D'Amico.
00:21:23
Speaker
He, I remember it was like week three Sunday Night Football and the guys were talking about how he was going to be front and center of
00:21:32
Speaker
New teams needing a coach.
00:21:33
Speaker
He was going to get hired super quickly.
00:21:35
Speaker
And literally, I think it was like an hour or two after the Niners lost last weekend or two weekends ago, he was named as their coach.
00:21:42
Speaker
So Texans, they cracked me up.
00:21:45
Speaker
They had the number one pick locked in.
00:21:47
Speaker
They won that game.
00:21:48
Speaker
They immediately were like, F you, lovey.
00:21:51
Speaker
And I think they knew they wanted D'Amico.
00:21:53
Speaker
D'Amico actually played for Houston.
00:21:55
Speaker
He was a really good defender there.
00:21:58
Speaker
I'm excited to see if he can maybe bring back the defense and the Texans a little bit.
00:22:04
Speaker
All right, yeah, I'll be excited to see it as well.
00:22:06
Speaker
Obviously, as you mentioned, they gave up their first round draft pick, but it sounds like they picked one of the first round draft picks for coaching positions.
00:22:15
Speaker
So it'll be interesting to see what he can do there.
NFL Coaching Changes
00:22:18
Speaker
But beyond that, that concludes Headline Hurricane.
00:22:21
Speaker
But beyond that, just real quick, just to brush through these other couple of vacancies that we have at head coach, these are some things that we're going to have to watch, of course, in the offseason to see what these teams do.
00:22:34
Speaker
We have the Indianapolis Colts.
00:22:36
Speaker
As I mentioned, they had a bit of a coaching upheaval, I would say, this season.
00:22:42
Speaker
They fired Frank, and then obviously Jeff Saturday came in.
00:22:46
Speaker
But as of right now, it's unknown who their coach is going to be heading into next season.
00:22:52
Speaker
That's a vacancy there that we need to consider.
00:22:54
Speaker
And then another head coaching vacancy that is a pretty big one is Cliff Kingsbury of the Arizona Cardinals, who has been there for a little bit.
00:23:02
Speaker
The Cardinals obviously kind of went downhill, didn't have a great season this year.
00:23:08
Speaker
I have heard that he bought a one-way ticket to Thailand with no return date.
00:23:13
Speaker
I've also read that some teams have been reaching out to him and he basically said, buzz off.
00:23:18
Speaker
So we'll see if he comes back ever into the NFL.
00:23:21
Speaker
But in the meantime, the Arizona Cardinals are going to need to find somebody to fill that role as well.
00:23:28
Speaker
Super jealous of Cliff.
00:23:29
Speaker
That sounds amazing.
00:23:31
Speaker
I want to go to Thailand.
00:23:34
Speaker
Yeah, one-way ticket.
00:23:35
Speaker
So he's really just saying, peace out, NFL.
00:23:38
Speaker
Peace out, Girl Scouts.
00:23:39
Speaker
He's like, yeah, I'm actually done.
00:23:43
Speaker
Man, living the freaking treatment.
00:23:44
Speaker
I think he's a pretty young guy too.
00:23:46
Speaker
So I think I'm going to look at his age right now.
00:23:49
Speaker
He definitely is a young guy.
00:23:52
Speaker
The first thing that popped up when I, when I looked up his name is, uh,
00:23:56
Speaker
Cliff Kingsbury's girlfriend says goodbye to Thailand.
00:24:02
Speaker
He's coming back then.
00:24:05
Speaker
So just living the dream.
00:24:08
Speaker
I wouldn't mind that at all, but yeah, so that's, that's our headliner.
00:24:12
Speaker
Just to go through a couple of things that have happened so far, obviously a lot more to come as we've mentioned earlier.
00:24:18
Speaker
but teams are already starting to think of next year.
00:24:21
Speaker
And speaking of thinking of next year, we're going to talk about two bold predictions that Bob and I have for next year.
Bold Predictions for Next NFL Season
00:24:28
Speaker
So do you want to take it away, Bob?
00:24:30
Speaker
What do you think is going to happen this off season heading into next season?
00:24:33
Speaker
That's going to be pretty bold.
00:24:38
Speaker
So that was beautiful.
00:24:45
Speaker
So one very bold prediction that I'm thinking for the 2023-2024 season, and I could have listed out four or five really, really good ones.
00:24:58
Speaker
But yeah, we want to be cognizant of time here.
00:25:01
Speaker
So the main, main bold prediction that I have is that the Colts, who are currently slotted at the number four draft pick right now, currently have a lot going for them.
00:25:12
Speaker
They have a really good defense.
00:25:14
Speaker
They have some weapons with Pittman.
00:25:16
Speaker
They have one of the best running backs in the league with Jonathan Taylor.
00:25:22
Speaker
They're going to trade up with my boys.
00:25:24
Speaker
I think they're going to give us quite the haul because I've read we are not going to give up that number one pick unless it is a massive, at least an additional first round or a first round and a second round pick package, which the Colts do have.
00:25:38
Speaker
So I think they're going to trade with us, get the number one overall pick, select Bryce Young from Alabama.
00:25:44
Speaker
He's going to be the centerpiece that they're going to build around.
00:25:46
Speaker
But yeah, like I said, they have one of the best offensive lines in football.
00:25:48
Speaker
They have one of the best defenses in football.
00:25:50
Speaker
They have a lot of weapons.
00:25:51
Speaker
They're just missing that quarterback.
00:25:53
Speaker
And I think they're going to pay many draft picks to my boys, which I'm very happy about, to get their guy.
00:26:01
Speaker
So that is my bold prediction.
00:26:06
Speaker
That's a great prediction.
00:26:07
Speaker
And if that happens, man, just some ESPN hired this dude.
00:26:13
Speaker
I mean, I'm not going to say no.
00:26:15
Speaker
I'm not going to click Kingsbury.
00:26:16
Speaker
I'm going to respond.
00:26:17
Speaker
I'm going to respond.
00:26:19
Speaker
No, that would be awesome, though.
00:26:21
Speaker
I think that could definitely be โ I could absolutely see that happening.
00:26:23
Speaker
That sounds like a big win-win for a lot of different teams.
00:26:26
Speaker
And they could get up and get their guy.
00:26:28
Speaker
They need a quarterback up there.
00:26:30
Speaker
And there's a lot of other teams now that also need a quarterback, especially with the retiring.
00:26:35
Speaker
And there's a lot of quarterbacks floating around right now.
00:26:38
Speaker
But we'll see what's going to happen with them.
00:26:41
Speaker
There's a lot that needs to happen.
00:26:44
Speaker
Last thing here that I'm excited to hear your bold prediction as I know our wave riders are as well.
00:26:47
Speaker
But if I do get an offer from ESPN, I will not accept it unless they let me do a package deal to bring you with me as well.
00:26:55
Speaker
So I will be a very, yeah, I will be a very, you're welcome.
00:26:59
Speaker
I will really do my best to, uh,
00:27:03
Speaker
what's the word I'm looking for?
00:27:04
Speaker
Negotiate, uh, make sure you're a part of that package as well.
00:27:07
Speaker
And I'd even take some less pay to make sure that happens.
00:27:10
Speaker
Thank you so much for saying that.
00:27:12
Speaker
Um, if you wouldn't mind, I'm just going to give the mic back to you.
00:27:14
Speaker
I need to make a quick call to my agent just to renegotiate my deal that I just made with ESPN.
00:27:20
Speaker
So just take the mic.
00:27:21
Speaker
Don't worry about it.
00:27:22
Speaker
I totally, totally would do the same for you.
00:27:25
Speaker
Oh, oh, so you, you currently have a deal in place, huh?
00:27:30
Speaker
Yeah, I actually just received a call earlier today.
00:27:35
Speaker
Yeah, I just got to make a quick call, renegotiate a few things.
00:27:38
Speaker
Originally, I think they sent the paperwork over.
00:27:40
Speaker
It was just for me, but I swear I tried to tell them, like me and Bob, of course.
00:27:47
Speaker
Is that why you're just saying this is the last episode and you made it seem like it was like a final thing, not just like of the season?
00:27:54
Speaker
That could be why I was waiting to break it to you about my retirement.
00:27:57
Speaker
So you could make me a highlight clip, but I just was trying to ease into it.
00:28:02
Speaker
But of course it'll be your retirement too, because obviously I included you in the package for the contract.
00:28:08
Speaker
Obviously that would be insanely rude if you didn't, but it sounds like you definitely, it sounds like you're absolutely on top of that.
00:28:14
Speaker
So I appreciate it.
00:28:15
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:28:17
Speaker
So yeah, I just have to make a few calls, but I can do it.
00:28:22
Speaker
I can do it after the podcast.
00:28:25
Speaker
Or you can do it right now.
00:28:29
Speaker
I got to move into my bold prediction.
00:28:32
Speaker
And it's, I feel like it's not that bold.
00:28:34
Speaker
Like I really like, yours was very creative outside of the box.
00:28:38
Speaker
doing some things.
00:28:38
Speaker
But this, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to talk about this one.
00:28:42
Speaker
There are definitely a lot of rumors flying around the rumor mill about Aaron Rodgers.
00:28:46
Speaker
And there was a lot last year.
00:28:48
Speaker
You got to admit, a lot of people thought he was going to move on from the Packers.
00:28:51
Speaker
Bob and I were very, very hopeful.
00:28:53
Speaker
But this year, it feels like it actually could be the case.
00:28:59
Speaker
I guess my bold prediction, which may not even be that bold because there's already been some tweets and some talk about it.
00:29:05
Speaker
But again, like I said, I just wanted an opportunity for us to comment on it because we both don't like the guy.
00:29:10
Speaker
I absolutely believe that Aaron Rodgers is going to be traded to the Raiders.
00:29:14
Speaker
The fact that Devontae Adams is there.
00:29:17
Speaker
There's been a lot of talk.
00:29:19
Speaker
Obviously, they need a new quarterback.
00:29:21
Speaker
They benched Derek Carr midway through the season or towards the end of the season.
00:29:25
Speaker
He obviously has made it very clear he has no intention of going back there.
00:29:29
Speaker
They have no intention of keeping him around.
00:29:32
Speaker
I think they're going to make some big moves to try to acquire Aaron Rodgers.
00:29:37
Speaker
And for him to reunite back again with Devontae Adams, I could absolutely see that happening.
00:29:43
Speaker
Again, like I said, it's not too, too bold.
00:29:45
Speaker
It seems kind of like, of course, it's inevitable.
00:29:48
Speaker
They're going to reunite out in Las Vegas.
00:29:51
Speaker
But my bold prediction, I guess, to keep it bold, would be that they're not going to have the same success that they had in Green Bay under Matt LaFleur.
00:30:04
Speaker
Okay, so not only will Rodgers be heading to Sin City, but he will also not have as much success as some might expect.
00:30:14
Speaker
That's my hopeful and bold prediction is that he's going to go out there expecting to do great things, but he's not going to have as much success as he did in Green
Aaron Rodgers to the Raiders?
00:30:25
Speaker
Bay, which actually I saw something, and I guess I didn't really realize this, but he, I guess overall, hasn't had as much success, I think, as people think he has.
00:30:35
Speaker
Because I saw this tweet that said, Tom Brady now has more retirements than Aaron Rodgers has Super Bowls.
00:30:41
Speaker
And I was like, oh, that hurts.
00:30:45
Speaker
Dang, I did not see that, but that's a nugget that I would chew on all night.
00:30:49
Speaker
Tom Brady is more tired than Aaron Rodgers has Super Bowls.
00:30:52
Speaker
But yeah, no, that's a great point.
00:30:54
Speaker
Rodgers is notorious for not only losing to the Niners in the playoffs.
00:30:58
Speaker
He's like 0-4 against his hometown team, and he was super bitter about them not choosing him in the first round back in, I don't know, like 2007, 2008 or whatever.
00:31:05
Speaker
But yeah, he's only made one Super Bowl, and...
00:31:10
Speaker
Obviously, he's one for one, but he only has one Super Bowl and all those great teams.
00:31:16
Speaker
Joe Flacco has as many Super Bowls as Aaron Rodgers does.
00:31:19
Speaker
Yeah, people say he is the โ they call him the โ they call Tom Brady the goat and him the boat.
00:31:25
Speaker
They call him the best of all time.
00:31:26
Speaker
And I'm like, really?
00:31:28
Speaker
Is he the best of all time?
00:31:30
Speaker
Because I easily think Patrick Mahomes would take that, you know?
00:31:35
Speaker
I think Aaron Rodgers is more of a Joe jackass of all time.
00:31:43
Speaker
I know we were laughing yesterday about Rodgers does a lot of interesting things, but he's on some like no phone, like no whatever retreat.
00:31:51
Speaker
The darkness retreat.
00:31:53
Speaker
He's on a 10 day darkness retreat where he's going to decide his future in the NFL.
00:31:58
Speaker
I don't think there's any way he retires the same year as Tom Brady.
00:32:01
Speaker
I think he's got too big of an ego to retire the same year and have to, he'll most likely enter the hall of fame.
00:32:08
Speaker
They do that based on the year you retire.
00:32:10
Speaker
There's no way he's going to want to do that the same year as the actual goat, someone who is way better than he is.
00:32:16
Speaker
Someone is, yeah, for someone that's made it to 10 Super Bowls and won seven,
00:32:20
Speaker
I don't think Rogers wants to be in the same class as a guy that's just going to outshine him.
00:32:24
Speaker
So, yeah, he's probably going to be sitting in his dark little cave and he's going to decide to go to Las Vegas.
00:32:30
Speaker
His dark little cave.
00:32:32
Speaker
His little stupid cave eating his little rocks.
00:32:35
Speaker
And then he's going to decide to go to Vegas and stink.
00:32:37
Speaker
So, yeah, I mean, usually we don't get our cake and eat it too.
00:32:40
Speaker
But him going to Vegas and then stinking it up there would kind of be like us getting our cake and eating it.
00:32:44
Speaker
So that'd be cool.
00:32:46
Speaker
So things are going to need to happen considering if he did go there, he would have Devontae Adams, Josh Jacobs, Max Crosby.
00:32:53
Speaker
He'd have a lot of good weapons.
00:32:55
Speaker
But, hey, we're still just put into the universe.
00:32:57
Speaker
He is going to go suck.
00:32:59
Speaker
And he's going to have Morgan Wall in his โ
00:33:06
Speaker
I said Morgan Wallen.
00:33:07
Speaker
Oh my gosh, you're right.
00:33:08
Speaker
He would have Darren Waller.
00:33:09
Speaker
Okay, maybe that is a really bold prediction for me to say he's going to stink because he will have weapons out there.
00:33:15
Speaker
He will have weapons and weapons and weapons.
00:33:17
Speaker
But hey, as long as he's out of the NFC North,
00:33:19
Speaker
Do whatever you want.
00:33:24
Speaker
And we have one more, I guess, bold prediction you could say.
00:33:29
Speaker
Before we talk about this year's Super Bowl, we're making a way, way, way too early prediction for next year's Super Bowl.
Early Predictions for Next Year's Super Bowl
00:33:38
Speaker
Who's going to the Super Bowl next year?
00:33:41
Speaker
Well, you know what?
00:33:42
Speaker
How about I tell you one team, I'll tell you my AFC, you tell me your NFC, and then we'll go back and forth.
00:33:49
Speaker
How do you want to do this?
00:33:51
Speaker
Who's your NFC team?
00:33:52
Speaker
We'll do NFC and then AFC.
00:33:55
Speaker
Okay, well, I actually only have my AFC team and I was going to think of my NFC team real quick.
00:33:58
Speaker
Okay, you tell me your AFC team is who I meant, what I meant to say.
00:34:04
Speaker
Let's start with the AFC.
00:34:06
Speaker
Right now, I think this team has been knocking on the door for too many years.
00:34:10
Speaker
They're too talented.
00:34:11
Speaker
They're too hungry.
00:34:13
Speaker
I think they've had some bad injuries the last couple years.
00:34:16
Speaker
I think it's finally time for Josh Allen, Stephon Diggs, that defense, and that city.
00:34:23
Speaker
I think Bill's Mafia will be riding on Josh Allen's coattails to make the Super Bowl in 2024 from the AFC.
00:34:31
Speaker
And I'm assuming that might be your same choice based off your reaction there.
00:34:34
Speaker
I was going to say, can I choose the same team?
00:34:37
Speaker
Absolutely you can.
00:34:40
Speaker
This is a team I have been just fighting for all year.
00:34:43
Speaker
I just love that you said, can I choose the same team?
00:34:46
Speaker
And then you're just going into like, the team I'm choosing is... Sorry.
00:34:50
Speaker
Okay, it's the Bills.
00:34:53
Speaker
But what I was trying to say about them is that I have been rooting for them all year to make it.
00:34:58
Speaker
They have not ever... They've never been to a Super Bowl, right?
00:35:03
Speaker
So they've been, but they've never won.
00:35:05
Speaker
They lost three in a row back to back to back, like in the 90s, but they have not been there in a long time.
00:35:10
Speaker
So they've never won a Superbowl.
00:35:12
Speaker
They've been a long time ago.
00:35:14
Speaker
This is too good of a team to keep missing out on the Superbowl.
00:35:17
Speaker
I feel like one of these years, the jackpot's going to hit for them.
00:35:22
Speaker
And I'm hoping it will only continue into next year.
00:35:25
Speaker
I feel like, honestly, this may be a hot take, but if Von Miller was healthy, I think that they could have done a lot more on defense and done some good things this past year.
00:35:38
Speaker
So I am going also with the Buffalo Bills.
00:35:42
Speaker
I was literally about to say that.
00:35:44
Speaker
I was going to say, if he didn't get hurt on Thanksgiving against your boys, thanks Lions for nothing.
00:35:49
Speaker
So if they can keep him, if they can keep him, if they can keep that team together, I know there's a little tension.
00:35:54
Speaker
Stephon Diggs was not happy with the way this season ended.
00:35:57
Speaker
Some things happened there, but if they can keep their core and keep it strong and healthy, I don't know.
00:36:03
Speaker
They're an incredible team when they're on and they're healthy and playing well.
00:36:07
Speaker
I think that's a great, yeah, great points.
00:36:09
Speaker
Obviously, I agree with your choice because I had the same one.
00:36:11
Speaker
But, side note, is it
00:36:14
Speaker
prerequisite for all these good receivers to be prima donnas because it's never the quarterback it's never the running back which makes no sense because they're constantly getting the ball you never see a running back throwing their helmet like a chad ochocinco or odell beckham or uh antonio brown walking off with his shirt off and now stefan diggs it's always the receiver it's always a receiver that's making making a fuss and i agree with that a lot of them
00:36:39
Speaker
are making a fuss and get mad about not getting thrown the ball more but it's like yeah we gotta spread the ball around a little bit here there's four of you guys out on the field at one time typically or more considering like tight ends and running backs and all of them as well so yeah I don't know it's like okay yes everybody knows you're good but that's part of the reason we don't throw to you all the time because you've doubled up or they're playing a stronger defense against you you know
00:37:06
Speaker
If I'm a quarterback in the NFL, which is still a realistic possibility in the near future for both of us.
00:37:10
Speaker
Especially after this combine.
00:37:12
Speaker
Especially after the combine, which you're going to do.
00:37:14
Speaker
And I guess you can tape me and do it as well, but I won't be required.
00:37:17
Speaker
But when I was an intramural quarterback at Grand Valley State and co-ed, if someone was, I don't know, complaining about not getting thrown to, I'd say, well, you know what?
00:37:27
Speaker
I'm done throwing to them for the night.
00:37:29
Speaker
And that's why I always threw to Mac because she never complained.
00:37:33
Speaker
If she was open, I threw to her.
00:37:35
Speaker
Oh, you want me to throw it to you more, Mike?
00:37:37
Speaker
Not getting any more of the rest of the game.
00:37:39
Speaker
Oh, what was that?
00:37:41
Speaker
What did you say to me?
00:37:42
Speaker
No more passes for you.
00:37:43
Speaker
I'm going to keep throwing to Mac.
00:37:44
Speaker
So if I'm Josh Allen, next year I say, hey, Stefan, get ready for 200 receiving yards because you're not getting the ball for me this year.
00:37:51
Speaker
Yeah, you're not getting the ball at all.
00:37:53
Speaker
I'm going to hang out to it.
00:37:55
Speaker
Maybe he'd rather lose than give him the ball and feed into that giant ego of his.
00:38:00
Speaker
Oh, what was that, Steph?
00:38:01
Speaker
You want more passes?
00:38:05
Speaker
But yes, okay, so NFC.
00:38:07
Speaker
Anyways, we digress, typically.
00:38:10
Speaker
So NFC, we can snake it back here.
00:38:12
Speaker
I'll give you a little more time to think of your AFC team.
00:38:14
Speaker
I'm going back to my roots of who I predicted this season to make it.
00:38:19
Speaker
This team is in the Super Bowl a lot, so I hate going back to that.
00:38:23
Speaker
I would love to say the Lions, obviously.
00:38:26
Speaker
I do think the Lions are going to be a playoff team next year, enough to make it all the way to the Super Bowl.
00:38:32
Speaker
But this team, I think they are such an incredible team year in, year out.
00:38:38
Speaker
And again, if they stayed healthy with Mr. Irrelevant, they, I think, would be absolutely in the mix to be in the Super Bowl this year.
00:38:51
Speaker
So Super Bowl 58 next year.
00:38:55
Speaker
I'm going with San Francisco 49ers against the Buffalo Bills.
00:38:59
Speaker
Well, this is boring because I just wrote down a little while ago.
00:39:02
Speaker
A little while ago, wrote Niners.
00:39:04
Speaker
And I was thinking about all the teams in the NFC.
00:39:07
Speaker
And I was like, Eagles and Cowboys kind of beat the hell out of each other.
00:39:10
Speaker
It's definitely not going to be the Packers or the Vikings.
00:39:13
Speaker
Kind of like what you said.
00:39:14
Speaker
I do think my boys are going to pull a Jacksonville Jags, make the playoffs go from worse.
00:39:19
Speaker
That'd be awesome.
00:39:20
Speaker
And make the playoffs.
00:39:22
Speaker
I don't think the Rams are going to be back there.
00:39:23
Speaker
I don't think Cardinals are anything.
00:39:24
Speaker
So I think the rational answer would be the Niners, assuming they're not going to be on their fourth-string quarterback come the NFC Championship game.
00:39:32
Speaker
I think that's a good call.
00:39:34
Speaker
Well, yeah, I guess that wasn't as bold as we were hoping it was going to be, but I felt for sure you were going with the Bears or something.
00:39:41
Speaker
See, I thought about it.
00:39:42
Speaker
I'm like, I need our listeners to respect me heading into next season.
00:39:45
Speaker
So I wanted to reel it back, but maybe in two years.
00:39:47
Speaker
But on the count of three, let's both say who we think is going to win that game.
00:39:52
Speaker
When I hit three, let's both just say who we think is going to win the Super Bowl next year.
00:40:02
Speaker
We got it, Niners.
00:40:06
Speaker
Let's hope that you can choose separate moving into that.
00:40:10
Speaker
You can keep that mojo going moving into this year's Super Bowl, Super Bowl 57.
00:40:16
Speaker
But before we do, since it is maybe our last episode of the season, it is time for a word from our sponsors.
00:40:25
Speaker
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00:40:28
Speaker
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00:40:39
Speaker
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00:40:41
Speaker
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00:40:43
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00:40:46
Speaker
I want some Sundays.
00:40:52
Speaker
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00:40:55
Speaker
I hope there's no snow.
00:40:58
Speaker
I hope that I can get a haircut, cut down my flow.
00:41:05
Speaker
I was like, I can't copyright the whole commercial.
00:41:07
Speaker
So I was trying to rhyme and my brain's not working right now.
00:41:11
Speaker
I freaking love it.
00:41:12
Speaker
Thanks, Burger King, for your super addicting and catchy ads.
00:41:18
Speaker
The commercial is all the rage.
00:41:19
Speaker
I'm sure you've probably heard of it if you're on any sort of social media.
00:41:23
Speaker
But all the rage for basically being the worst commercial that comes on every football game.
00:41:28
Speaker
Especially somehow there's some algorithm apparently that it comes on right after the worst possible plays.
00:41:35
Speaker
Or like when your team gets bumped out of the playoffs, it's like Whopper, Whopper, Junior Whopper.
00:41:43
Speaker
Gotta love Whoppers.
00:41:44
Speaker
And man, the marketing team really balled out on that one.
00:41:47
Speaker
And yeah, unless you're on a 10 day darkness retreat in a cave, you know what that song is and you've heard it.
00:41:53
Speaker
So I think this is what our fans have been waiting for.
00:41:59
Speaker
I kind of lost at the end, but I was really trying to hit a home run for the second to last episode.
00:42:06
Speaker
But yeah, I agree.
00:42:06
Speaker
I think that's what our fans have been waiting for all 40 minutes.
00:42:09
Speaker
As we said, we just like to really, you know, drag things out, even when it's completely unnecessary, but might as well do it.
00:42:16
Speaker
But let's move into the Super Bowl, the thing that we are actually here to discuss.
Kansas City Chiefs Analysis
00:42:21
Speaker
the way this is going to work, Bob and I, obviously, we have both already chosen a team.
00:42:26
Speaker
Bob is hoping that our teams that we've chosen are different.
00:42:29
Speaker
And I kind of am too, just to, you know, spice it up a little bit for this weekend, this Super Bowl season.
00:42:34
Speaker
But yes, so we've written those down and we're both going to talk about a pro and a con for each team.
00:42:41
Speaker
Before we choose our teams, before we say who we've chosen, we're going to give why we think that team could win, why we think that team could lose.
00:42:49
Speaker
So let's kick it off with the AFC and let's kick it off with the Chiefs.
00:42:56
Speaker
Why do you think, Bob, that the Chiefs are going to win this game?
00:43:01
Speaker
Okay, I'm going to really try to hide my facial reactions, my emotions.
00:43:05
Speaker
And this is all off the dome.
00:43:06
Speaker
I didn't write down any positives or negatives for each.
00:43:09
Speaker
I'm going to try to really even keel it.
00:43:11
Speaker
And folks, there's a lot on the line.
00:43:13
Speaker
My heart is pumping.
00:43:17
Speaker
Okay, so did she, did that sound like a heartbeat at all?
00:43:21
Speaker
Yeah, it kind of did.
00:43:25
Speaker
Yeah, that was good.
00:43:27
Speaker
That's my heartbeat right now.
00:43:30
Speaker
They have the experience.
00:43:31
Speaker
So how many things?
00:43:32
Speaker
Am I saying one good thing and one negative?
00:43:34
Speaker
Just tell me real quick.
00:43:35
Speaker
Yeah, in a brief synopsis.
00:43:37
Speaker
How could the Chiefs win this game?
00:43:39
Speaker
The Chiefs can win this game because they have the experience.
00:43:42
Speaker
They have Andy Reid.
00:43:44
Speaker
They have Patrick Mahomes.
00:43:45
Speaker
They have Travis Kelsey.
00:43:46
Speaker
They have the number one offense in football.
00:43:49
Speaker
They've been there.
00:43:49
Speaker
They've done this.
00:43:50
Speaker
This is their third Super Bowl they've been in.
00:43:52
Speaker
I believe it's either in the last four or five years.
00:43:54
Speaker
Definitely third in the last five.
00:43:57
Speaker
Okay, third in the last five.
00:43:58
Speaker
And they make it to the AFC Championship every single year for the last six years.
00:44:01
Speaker
So they are used to the big games.
00:44:04
Speaker
They just beat the Bengals, who I think had the highest Super Bowl odds heading into the championship weekend.
00:44:09
Speaker
So they've got the experience.
00:44:11
Speaker
They've got the number one offense.
00:44:13
Speaker
And they're hot right now.
00:44:15
Speaker
a reason that they could lose this game.
00:44:17
Speaker
Oh, wait, I was going to give my reason for why.
00:44:21
Speaker
No, no, you're good.
00:44:21
Speaker
I totally agree with what you said.
00:44:24
Speaker
One quick nugget before just talking about the entire Super Bowl.
00:44:27
Speaker
It's pretty fun because these are two of the youngest quarterbacks to ever go head to head in the Super Bowl.
00:44:35
Speaker
So Patrick Mahomes is 27.
00:44:36
Speaker
Jalen Hurts is 24.
00:44:38
Speaker
It's the youngest matchup
00:44:39
Speaker
ever in the Super Bowl.
00:44:41
Speaker
That's pretty fun.
00:44:42
Speaker
But as you mentioned, Patrick Mahomes does have that slight edge for the Chiefs because he does have the experience.
00:44:49
Speaker
This will be his third Super Bowl.
00:44:53
Speaker
This is the tiebreaker here.
00:44:55
Speaker
And he obviously finds a way to make plays, get things
00:45:00
Speaker
And if you were just looking at it hypothetically of any teams at all, obviously he's I believe he will be the best quarterback on the field come Sunday.
00:45:11
Speaker
He finds a way to make things happen.
00:45:13
Speaker
He finds a way to get things done.
00:45:15
Speaker
And yeah, just an incredible quarterback all the way around.
00:45:18
Speaker
As you mentioned, offense, phenomenal.
00:45:21
Speaker
So, yeah, that's why I think that the Chiefs absolutely could win.
00:45:25
Speaker
And yeah, go ahead.
00:45:26
Speaker
What you're going to say of why you think they could lose.
00:45:29
Speaker
Well, let's take it back.
00:45:30
Speaker
So you get to have the first say on why they should lose.
00:45:32
Speaker
So, okay, perfect.
00:45:34
Speaker
So why I think the Chiefs could lose this game.
00:45:38
Speaker
I think a factor here would be probably their defense.
00:45:42
Speaker
So as we mentioned, their offense is incredible in getting things done left and right, the number one in the NFL.
00:45:50
Speaker
Defense is a little bit of a different story.
00:45:51
Speaker
They've been a little sluggish on defense at times, definitely allowing a good amount of points each game.
00:45:58
Speaker
I want to say the average is like 20-ish points or so per game.
00:46:01
Speaker
So giving up some stuff on defense, not as much experience on the defensive side.
00:46:06
Speaker
And then also just a quick side note, they do have a couple more injuries banged up going into this weekend than the Eagles do.
00:46:13
Speaker
McCole Hardman is banged up.
00:46:16
Speaker
He has been placed on IR, so he will not be there for the Super Bowl.
00:46:20
Speaker
Kadarius Toney, another wide receiver for the Chiefs.
00:46:25
Speaker
He's questionable for this weekend.
00:46:27
Speaker
Obviously, Patrick Mahomes has that high ankle sprain that he's been working through, but he looked okay last week.
00:46:32
Speaker
I don't really think that's going to impact him.
00:46:34
Speaker
And then on defense, they do have a couple cornerbacks or safeties, I believe, that
00:46:39
Speaker
are also a bit banged up.
00:46:40
Speaker
So I guess just injury wise and maybe just sluggish on defense would be my reasons for why they could lose.
00:46:50
Speaker
Solid and very legitimate reasons.
00:46:54
Speaker
So I think a reason or two that they can lose this game is they have had a tendency the last couple of years to lose a lot of big games.
00:47:02
Speaker
They have lost a couple AFC championship games that they hosted.
00:47:06
Speaker
They lost to the Bengals after being up 21 to three last year, they lost in the Superbowl, a pretty dominating fashion to the bucks during the COVID season.
00:47:15
Speaker
And I think there's a lot of pressure on Mahomes to win this game.
00:47:18
Speaker
He doesn't want to be one and two in the Superbowls and he has,
00:47:21
Speaker
yeah, lost a lot of big games recently and they haven't won a Superbowl since 2019.
00:47:26
Speaker
So it's been three full seasons now.
00:47:29
Speaker
And I think that added pressure is just going to be one of those things.
00:47:33
Speaker
And yeah, experience is great, but sometimes it goes the other way.
00:47:35
Speaker
Sometimes a guy like Hertz doesn't really know what to expect and they just, you know, are able to go out there and play and win.
00:47:41
Speaker
So I think there could be a little added pressure and that could be a negative and kind of what you said about their defense being a,
00:47:49
Speaker
Not the best as well.
00:47:50
Speaker
That could also be a reason that they lose the game.
00:47:55
Speaker
Great examples there.
00:47:58
Speaker
It sounds like we're pretty much in agreeance with their pros and their cons for the Chiefs heading into the Super Bowl.
Philadelphia Eagles Analysis
00:48:05
Speaker
snaking it back if you want to kick it off with your pros for the NFC representative, the Philadelphia Eagles.
00:48:18
Speaker
Yeah, I think an easy...
00:48:21
Speaker
reason that the Eagles could win this game, in my opinion, is because they've kind of been the best team in football all season long.
00:48:27
Speaker
They had the best record for most of the season.
00:48:30
Speaker
Hertz went down for a couple of games.
00:48:31
Speaker
They had a quick little doldrum there, but they have consistently been looked at as the best team in football.
00:48:38
Speaker
They've been dominant up front.
00:48:40
Speaker
Their offensive line is for sure the best in the game and their defense has just been absolutely balling out.
00:48:47
Speaker
They're just kind of
00:48:48
Speaker
good on both sides of the ball to the point where I think they're widely renowned as the best team in football.
00:48:53
Speaker
So I think that's a obvious reason why they could win this game.
00:49:02
Speaker
Yeah, I totally agree.
00:49:04
Speaker
I think that the Eagles have a good kind of just traditional ground and pound type of style and play.
00:49:14
Speaker
Obviously, Hertz can also get out of the pocket and scramble a good bit.
00:49:18
Speaker
So obviously not the same level of sorcery as Mahomes, but Hertz holds his own for sure in terms of getting things done.
00:49:27
Speaker
I think the biggest factor for how the Eagles could win, though, would be kind of the opposite of the Chiefs.
00:49:33
Speaker
So the Eagles' defense has been phenomenal all season long.
00:49:38
Speaker
Whereas the Chiefs are averaging around 20 points that they're giving up per game, the Eagles are only averaging about seven that they're giving up per game.
00:49:46
Speaker
Their defense has been strong.
00:49:47
Speaker
They have arguably two of the best corners in the league.
00:49:52
Speaker
I love to talk about him.
00:49:53
Speaker
The former Detroit Lion does a great job on defense.
00:49:57
Speaker
And then also their defensive front has been doing a really nice job.
00:50:00
Speaker
If you'll remember, my guy from last year or last week was Sasan Redick, up for Defensive Player of the Year.
00:50:06
Speaker
So their defensive front has been really getting back there, getting a lot of sacks as well.
00:50:11
Speaker
So I think their defense, whereas for the Chiefs, it was their offense for the Eagles, I think it'd be their defense would be the factor that could help them win.
00:50:23
Speaker
Very solid points.
00:50:24
Speaker
Now you want to hit us with how they could lose?
00:50:28
Speaker
So I think the thing about the Eagles that scares me a little bit is yes, they have an incredible record, but looking at their schedule, I don't know that they had the toughest schedule of any team in the NFL.
00:50:41
Speaker
They had some teams that...
00:50:43
Speaker
You know, any NFL team is doing really good.
00:50:46
Speaker
A lot of them are all already start at this really high caliber and this really high bar.
00:50:51
Speaker
But in the grand scheme of things, the Eagles, the number of individuals they played and the teams that they played are not necessarily as high as some of the other teams or they don't have exactly...
00:51:03
Speaker
the strongest opponents, I guess, throughout the season.
00:51:06
Speaker
So yes, they had their 16 wins, but some of them might not have been as well-earned or as difficult to play against as some other teams may have had to face.
00:51:17
Speaker
So I think that's what scares me a little bit about them.
00:51:20
Speaker
And then also I would just say the experience side, we kind of talked about that as a pro for Patrick Mahomes.
00:51:27
Speaker
I do think that can be a negative for Jalen Hurts
00:51:30
Speaker
He has never really seen this before.
00:51:33
Speaker
He's new to this big of a stage.
00:51:35
Speaker
Obviously, he seems very cool, calm, and collected, but being new to the Super Bowl and having this be your first time going into such a big game, I think that pressure can weigh on you a good bit.
00:51:46
Speaker
I mean, we saw it with Mahomes when he first walked in, you know, and everybody was all about the Chiefs and the Bucs absolutely handed it to him because it's just a different playing field out there.
00:51:57
Speaker
So I would say that's probably a little bit about what makes me nervous about the Eagles.
00:52:05
Speaker
I don't know if I have anything really much more additionally from there.
00:52:10
Speaker
They kind of had a little bit of a lull at the end of the season.
00:52:12
Speaker
They were struggling.
00:52:13
Speaker
They lost a couple of games, so that hurts.
00:52:15
Speaker
And then there was some concerns that he was banged up against the Giants.
00:52:19
Speaker
Giants are not a great team.
00:52:20
Speaker
No offense, Eli, but they smoked the Giants.
00:52:23
Speaker
And then, yeah, they got to play against the Niners and a guy that hadn't had more than a couple of snaps in his 15-year NFL career.
00:52:33
Speaker
Them kind of struggling at the end of the season on top of the fact that they've had a very easy road, in a sense, to the Super Bowl.
00:52:41
Speaker
And they are not going to have an easy game on Sunday.
00:52:44
Speaker
And that goes without saying so.
00:52:48
Speaker
I think that's a reason.
00:52:50
Speaker
It's a bit of a challenge because I kind of wish, or I really wish that the 49ers were healthy last week.
00:52:57
Speaker
So we could really get a good gauge for the Eagles against a solid team in like the 49ers.
00:53:03
Speaker
Obviously they did a great job handling their defense, but I mean, it's, it's kind of seems inevitable when on offense, the 49ers couldn't get anything going because obviously they had no quarterback.
00:53:15
Speaker
more chances on offense, you're going to be able to rack up some points even against a really solid defense.
00:53:21
Speaker
So I kind of wish that we got to see a little bit more from them in terms of like how they're actually going to show up and play.
00:53:29
Speaker
Yep, completely agreed.
00:53:31
Speaker
And now what we've all been waiting for.
Final Super Bowl Winner Picks
00:53:36
Speaker
So how are we going to do this?
00:53:38
Speaker
Do you want to say yours and then mine and then we'll like hold it up so that way you know that it is...
00:53:46
Speaker
Or how do you want to do that?
00:53:48
Speaker
So I have a question for you.
00:53:49
Speaker
Are you going with what's written on your paper right now?
00:53:53
Speaker
I need the pen away from the trigger.
00:53:56
Speaker
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:53:58
Speaker
So you are, you are going with the team on your paper.
00:54:02
Speaker
I want to do a quick,
00:54:03
Speaker
Prediction, just to show the fans that I really did get a good gauge on what you're doing.
00:54:08
Speaker
So just based off of the last handful of weeks, I have noticed a trend that you have, especially also in the Wavemaker Awards, you've always had a bit of a...
00:54:21
Speaker
draw to the Chiefs.
00:54:23
Speaker
And that's not a bad thing.
00:54:24
Speaker
I just think that you really respect the excellence between Mahomes and Kelsey.
00:54:30
Speaker
Whenever we do our fantasy drafts, Kelsey is high up on your board.
00:54:34
Speaker
And just knowing that you, oh, you're smiling.
00:54:38
Speaker
It makes me nervous.
00:54:38
Speaker
Knowing that all you have to do is win the game, I think in my head you were going to go with the team that you thought was going to win.
00:54:45
Speaker
And I think that you were going to go Chiefs.
00:54:49
Speaker
So, yes, of course.
00:54:52
Speaker
Can I make a prediction?
00:54:53
Speaker
I'm going to hold my hands up just so you know I'm not writing anything.
00:54:56
Speaker
Hands up, hands up, hands up.
00:54:57
Speaker
Can I make a prediction for what I think you chose?
00:55:02
Speaker
So I thought, so in my mind, my thought was I'm just going to choose who I think is going to win.
00:55:11
Speaker
I was trying to think about yours, but sometimes that confuses me when I like double down on what I think you're going to go with.
00:55:17
Speaker
And then I'm like, try to do reverse, reverse psychology.
00:55:20
Speaker
And sometimes it's just easier to be like, all right, I'm in the driver's seat.
00:55:23
Speaker
I'm going to choose who I think is going to win.
00:55:25
Speaker
So for you, I think that you were trying to
00:55:29
Speaker
look, and you even told me you were trying to decide who I chose and then chose the opposite.
00:55:35
Speaker
So I think that you would think that I was choosing the chiefs because of all of those things.
00:55:43
Speaker
And I believe that you chose the Eagles heading into it because of those things, because I do tend to like favor the chiefs.
00:55:51
Speaker
I think they are an incredible team.
00:55:54
Speaker
I also think they're an incredible team.
00:55:55
Speaker
And if I was going on my heart of who I think is going to win the game, I think that the Chiefs are going to win this game.
00:56:01
Speaker
So without further ado, paper up.
00:56:05
Speaker
I'm grabbing the paper.
00:56:07
Speaker
I was like, I swear I don't have the pen.
00:56:12
Speaker
For all the marbles.
00:56:13
Speaker
For all the marbles.
00:56:14
Speaker
If we have the same team, I am officially doing the combine.
00:56:18
Speaker
If we are opposite, we will find out on Sunday.
00:56:21
Speaker
How are we going to do this?
00:56:23
Speaker
All right, I've got mine right here.
00:56:24
Speaker
It's written right under my finger.
00:56:31
Speaker
I can't see yours.
00:56:33
Speaker
You're doing the combine, Bob.
00:56:35
Speaker
Oh, no, I see an E. Why did you do that?
00:56:39
Speaker
I'll tell you why.
00:56:40
Speaker
I actually, all of that, I feel like I was talking so much down on the eagles right there, but there's a few reasons why.
00:56:47
Speaker
And just so you can see my paper.
00:56:49
Speaker
Why did you do that?
00:56:50
Speaker
So that way it is fully...
00:56:53
Speaker
Can you see that okay?
00:56:56
Speaker
I do see the Eagles.
00:57:02
Speaker
The reason I chose the Eagles, a couple of reasons.
00:57:06
Speaker
No, for one, I think that defensive factor is going to be a deciding factor.
00:57:13
Speaker
Patrick Mahomes is their team, is the entire Chiefs team.
00:57:16
Speaker
He gets things done and can make miraculous plays, but we have seen if he can be contained, then he can be beaten.
00:57:24
Speaker
And I think that the Eagles have enough power up front in their defensive line that they're going to be able to contain him.
00:57:30
Speaker
And then number two, which I thought for sure you were going to choose Chiefs because of this, because I thought you were going to choose, think I chose Eagles for a little bit in terms of like just off of my heart, is because of Carter and Paige live in Philly.
00:57:48
Speaker
And of course, got to give the shout outs to Big T. We don't have anybody that we know that's like a huge Chiefs fan, so...
00:57:57
Speaker
In my head, I was like, if he thinks I'm going Hart, he's going to think Eagles.
00:58:01
Speaker
But if he thinks I'm going Head, he's going to think Chiefs.
00:58:03
Speaker
So I just went with who I think is going to actually win.
00:58:06
Speaker
And I think that the Eagles do have a slight edge.
00:58:10
Speaker
I totally forgot about the Cardo and Paige connection in Philly.
00:58:18
Speaker
I think we might have lost Bob for a second there.
00:58:19
Speaker
I would have gone with who I actually think is going to win.
00:58:22
Speaker
I would have gone with the Chiefs.
00:58:23
Speaker
And just talk about while he tries to reload.
00:58:27
Speaker
So, yeah, I guess that solidifies it.
00:58:29
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Bob and I both have chosen the Eagles heading into Super Bowl 57.
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It will still be exciting to see what happens.
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I absolutely could see Patrick Mahomes pulling out another miracle out of his hat.
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and just doing the damn thing and winning another Super Bowl.
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He could go ahead of his 50% record.
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He could take a two-in-one record heading into next season if he pulls this out.
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But I also think it could be pretty cool for the Eagles.
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They haven't won in a bit.
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Obviously, Jalen Hurts has never been there, so he's never won.
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Don't know that A.J.
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Brown has ever won.
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And got to give a shout out too to Nick Sirianni.
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He was the head coach at Mount Union University, which was my brother-in-law's and my sister.
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That's where they went to school.
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So lots of ties there for me in the heart.
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Nick Sirianni, Carter and Paige living in Philly.
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Big T, got to love them.
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So lots of shouts out.
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I feel like if I was going, oh, I don't know.
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Actually, no, I think my brain, oh, I don't know.
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I honestly contemplated for so long because I'm like easily, easily, easily Patrick Mahomes could win.
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And I feel like he is like a Tom Brady type of guy where like betting against him is never a good idea.
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But so I thought for sure you're going to go Chiefs.
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But anyways, I don't know.
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I think the Eagles D will have the edge.
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Yeah, you better start working out.
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Well, it's a pleasure having this bet with you.
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I'm excited to see your scores.
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And I'll probably do it with you.
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I don't know that I'll post my scores, but I'll probably do it with you.
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So you got that to look forward to.
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But yes, I'm excited to see what happens this weekend.
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We will come in, do a quick little shout out, I'm sure, at some point next week to just talk about what happened in the Super Bowl.
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Talk about the fun things.
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Bob's over there dancing because he's pretty happy about it.
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But yeah, that's all we really have for this week.
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I think it's going to be a good game all the way around.
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Eat some good food.
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Hang out with friends.
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Do whatever it is you do for the Super Bowl.
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We hope you enjoy.
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And we will check in with y'all next week.
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Whopper, Whopper, Junior Whopper.