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We aren't sure what is scarier - Making Waves taking a few week hiatus or the week 9 slate of games. Join Mack and Bob as they break down every spooky matchup for week 9 of the 2023 NFL season.

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Podcast Returns with Halloween Excitement

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Making Waves is back, and I don't know what's scarier, a three-week hiatus or Halloween.
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Ooh.
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Let's dive right in.
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for a super spooky Halloween themed episode.
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This is Making Waves, an NFL confidence pool podcast.
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I'm your host, Mac.
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And I'm your host, Bob.
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And we are so glad to be back.
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First and foremost, we're glad to just be back for our fans.
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We've had a lot of commentary about why we were taking a break.
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People wanted us back throughout the course of the last couple of

Season Break and NFL Reflections

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weeks.
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I got to take responsibility here.
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It really was me that needed the break today.
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Believe it or not, I unfortunately have a small part-time job, not a full-time job, making waves of my full-time job, a small part-time job.
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And it was just a very busy season.
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I know what could be busier or more important than football.
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Nothing, truly nothing at all.
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Don't tell my wife that.
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But...
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Bob was very gracious in allowing us to have a small little break while I got some of my affairs in order and we're back and I'm excited to be back.
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First and foremost, yes.
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Could not agree more.
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So excited to be back.
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So excited for Halloween, which is obviously in the future because we're doing this episode.
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And there's just so many good things to- In the future?
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Yeah, because obviously, you know, Halloween has got to be before Halloween, right?
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Well, somewhat.
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Yeah.
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It's still within 24 hours of Halloween, so it's still a Halloween.
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Yes, day after Halloween, I think this can still be a Halloween-themed episode.

NFL Midseason Analysis and Personal Standings

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It's the week of Halloween, so this is the Halloween episode.
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But yes, we are so excited to be back.
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absence makes the heart grow fonder and I have missed the wave rider so much.
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We have both missed hanging out and talking about football and we're just really ready to hit the ground running and give you all some great content between now and the end of the season.
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And speaking of spooky things, we're about halfway done with the season.
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So there is a lot of frights and spookiness that has happened that we're excited to chat about from the last couple of weeks.
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Absolutely.
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There's been a lot going on around the league.
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A lot of injuries, a lot of changes, a lot of teams who have been doing great.
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The Detroit Lions.
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A lot of teams who have done not so great.
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The Chicago Bears.
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See?
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You're sick.
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And our, obviously, our standings in the confidence pool is going to be something that we update you all on.
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There's just been lots going on.
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A couple fat finger moments that have really dropped us out of the race.
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Didn't want to bring it up this early, Bob, but I could only make it three minutes in before mentioning a small mistake that occurred in this time where we were apart.
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I was going to say, that's interesting that you said you didn't want to bring it up, but about a minute and a half.
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I really tried to get pulled back and it just came out.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know what?
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After the intros and us saying welcome back, the fact that you made it about 20 seconds, that was really good to you.
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So I really appreciate that.
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Oh, of course.
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Anytime.
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Happy to do it.
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That was so nice.

Gift Exchange and Podcast Dynamics

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You know, we had some other fun things like some of us upgraded our attire, our closets.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I totally forgot that the Wave Riders have no idea about the special gift that, and by the way, there's no way, and the fans will understand what we're talking about.
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There's no way I could have waited from when I got that package to now anyways.
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Fair enough.
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There's no chance I could have been staring at that box for two weeks.
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It's fair.
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I don't blame you now for opening it.
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Bob received a package a few weeks ago.
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It said to Wavemaker Willen.
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And in my head, if I addressed it to Wavemaker Willen, he was going to wait until the podcast to open it because, you know, he's a wave maker.
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This is making waves.
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And he made it about, speaking of 30 seconds, about 30 seconds probably up the flight of stairs back to your apartment before it ripped open and I received a phone call.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I blame myself, but I also blame the situation.
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I blame myself.
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I blame myself, not you.
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Oh, okay.
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I agree.
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I also blame you then.
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I should have warned you what was coming, but I thought if I gave you a heads up, you would know immediately what I was sending.
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Because we had talked about it.
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If everybody will remember on the last podcast, I think it was that we were all together.
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We had talked about getting Bob a little something, something.
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And two weeks later, a package comes in the mail.
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Yeah, honestly, that would have gone right over my head.
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The fact that there was a package that said Wavemaker Willen on it went right over my head.
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And Mac, usually in the future, future, opposite of future, usually in the past when Mac has sent me a package, i.e.
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this equipment for our recording, she said, hey, just letting you know I sent you a package.
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Give me a call when you get it.
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So I hadn't heard dilly squat from her, got a package.
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I thought, huh, wave maker willing, obviously I need to open this immediately.
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I thought it was from the Netherlands or something.
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Yeah.
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I thought it was from our European fans.
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Maybe, you know, someone had a little broadcaster crush.
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I mean, one of our listeners that just loves listening to my football intakes and, uh,
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Yeah, I opened it.
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I saw the DJ Moore jersey, which was incredible.
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And then immediately thought, I mean, obviously this is Mac because then the light bulb went on and I texted Mac and said something to the effect of, did you send me a package?
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And she immediately, in all caps, said, don't open that.
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Obviously, I didn't respond to that message.
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You had already opened it, folks.
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I mean, I literally already had the jersey sprawled out of my bed.
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So,
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I went from pure euphoria to pure terror in about two seconds.
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It's okay.
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The voicemail that I got right when you opened it was well worth it.
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I still have it saved on my phone.
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There's pure joy and excitement that's coming through your voice about the DJ Moore jersey.
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So I'm glad you like it.
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And I'm so glad you're wearing it here.
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Oh, yeah.
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You're not wearing it for the podcast.
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Oh.
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See, I see where your head's at there, and I wanted to wait until a special Sunday game to wear that.
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And I have worn it many times.
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It's weird.
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I happen to be wearing a lion sweatshirt from none other than my co-host.
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Oh.
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I just, you know, really like to represent the gifts and the swag that I get.
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I got a really nice flat brim hat one time that I wear all the time from Bob.
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Oh, you do?
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While you're talking about that one, do you mind grabbing that?
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And then I'll go grab the jersey and then we can kind of just share it.
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Oh, it's in the other room.
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I don't want to, you know, we're already at seven minutes and the fans have been waiting for us to get back on and just get really under an hour or so.
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So next time.
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So you're still probably unpacking from moving into that house about, I don't know, five or seven years ago, something like that.
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Yeah, we moved in about three years ago.
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So still unpacking and we'll find that hat at some point.
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Okay, perfect.
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Well, when you

Halloween-themed NFL Episode Introduction

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find that hat, I'll wear the jersey on the podcast and we'll share fun stories then.
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Okay, perfect.
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All jokes aside, though, that was an amazing surprise.
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When I said I wanted a DJ Moore jersey, I never would have expected my co-host to actually do that.
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So huge thank you to you now that the Wave Rodders are listening in.
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Can't wait to be rocking that for many years to come.
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And yeah, I hope DJ Moore is a bear for a long time because we've been known to sign big name players, Khalil Mack,
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Allen Robinson, and then kind of let him go after a couple of years.
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So I hope he's here to stay because that Jersey was not, uh, was not cheap at all.
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I'm sure.
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Yeah.
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Well, I, I hope he is here to stay just for your sake.
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Cause that's like kind of why I was trying to prod at who you wanted.
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Was it Justin Fields?
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Is it like, you know, a throwback big bears or locker or something, right?
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Yeah.
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Next time.
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Next time.
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Well, yeah.
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Uh, I'll speak it into existence.
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I would like a Brian or like her Jersey.
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Great.
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Perfect.
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If you happen to get a package that says Wavemaker Willen on it, don't open it.
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I'll open it immediately.
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Got it.
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So that is something y'all have missed.
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I have the best co-host there is.
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So thank you again for that.
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I do want to also give my patented promise that this episode will be under an hour.
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Oh, please.
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As a little welcome back.
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And thank you so much for being patient in our little hiatus.
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I promise this will be under an hour.
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Not only are we back after a few weeks, but we also have a fully themed episode where each game is going to have its own theme for Halloween.
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So I have no doubt in my mind, this is probably going to be...
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equally, if not longer than any other week.
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Yeah.
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With it being a themed episode, us taking a couple of weeks off, this one might, this one, this one might be pushing an hour and a half to say the least.
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So it might be, but we'll see.
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We'll, we'll do our best to get through it.
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In the meantime, though, if you wouldn't mind, Bob, where are we at in all of our confidence pool standings?
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I'm sure everybody's curious.
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Yes.
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I'm sure everyone's very curious about the Walthall Challenge and more importantly, the Bucco Box.
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So unfortunately,
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Cat out of the bag, black cat Halloween, black cat out of the witch's hat.
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We have not yet won the Bucco Bucks, which is very spooky, especially now that we're officially into the 11th month of the year.
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We really need to turn it on.
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But in past years, speaking of non-spooky things, we are really good around the holidays.
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So I think we're just really building up to win a couple here in the next month and a half, two months.
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So yes, we have not won the Bucco Bucks.
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Spooky, but we were as close as you can possibly get last week.
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We finished week eight with 107 points.
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Wow, that's so many points.
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Yep.
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And we were only one behind the eventual winner who finished at 108 points.
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One measly point between us and the Bucco Bucks.
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We missed only three games, but the killer was that we missed our most confident game.
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Pick of the week, Chiefs at 16.
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I don't know how they could do us like that, losing to the Broncos, but we had Chiefs at 16.
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We missed them.
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I'm sure Max is going to bring up another Chiefs-Broncos game here in a couple minutes.
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We missed the Colts for four, which, you know,
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Not terrible.
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And then we missed the Texans at nine, which hurt me double as much because they were playing the Panthers.
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Bears have their pick next year.
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And now that made things a little murky for the number one pick in the draft.
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So missed three games.
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Unfortunately, 16 and nine is tough.
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But hey, we finished second place out of 27.
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And overall now we are in seventh, moving up the scoreboard after a very solid week.
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We have 661 points.
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And...
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We are only 39 back of the right now leader who is at 700 points on the dot.
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So 39 points back.
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Not too shabby.
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39 points.
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Wow.
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I think we'd only be, if my math is correct, 26 points behind the leader, if not for that other Broncos Chiefs game.
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Oh.
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I don't think I know what you're talking about.
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What are you referring to?
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Oh, here, I'll refresh your memory.
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Maybe let our fans in on a little something.
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Oh, perfect.
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Yes, please do.
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I made a grave error in not double checking and peer reviewing my co-host's work in the app.
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There was a bit of a fat finger situation where about three weeks ago, we accidentally chose the Broncos to win over the Chiefs for 13 points.
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And that was not what we had discussed, but I blame myself.
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I don't blame you for entering it in.
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You really carry a lot of the weight entering it into the app every week.
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And I should have double checked.
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I should have been there for you, Bob.
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Yeah.
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You know what?
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I forgive you.
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That is a little ridiculous that so much weight's on my shoulders and who knows, I guess me, myself and I are the only ones that will know if I really did that on purpose to kind of take a stand, say, I have too much weight on my shoulders.
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I need some help here, checking the app.
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And you know what?
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Is 13 points enough to make a stand?
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I don't know.
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But point made.
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We'll find out at the end of the season.
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That's for sure.
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If we lose by less than 13 points, you can come for me, Bob.
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If something happens to me and I disappear, please refer to this episode because something happened based off those 13 points.
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13 minutes in, 13 points.
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If that's not Halloween themed, I don't know what is.
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Oh my God.
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Friday the 13th.
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I actually think it was the day before Friday the 13th too.
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Oh, gosh.
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Okay.
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I didn't think you were going to realize I did it on purpose this quickly, but now it's all, it's all adding up now.
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I'm on to you.
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I'm on to you now.
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Love it.
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Unlucky 13.
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But you know what?
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We made it through that.
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And now we're better for it.
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We double check.
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And we're both fully engaged in the Yahoo Fantasy Sports app.
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Totally.
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Well, it was just a small little error, and it's no problem.
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There's much bigger fish to fry like the Waffle House Challenge for me, which I still, spoiler alert, am losing by a significant amount.
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I tried to take that hiatus.
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It wasn't because of work.
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It wasn't because of personal stuff.
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It was really just because of the Waffle House Challenge.
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I'm trying to avoid this embarrassing loss, but...
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For the first time since I think week two or week three, I am back under five games behind.
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I am down to only four games behind Bob.
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I still have a double down week.
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Bob also still has a double down week that he can go in on.
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Maybe it'll be this week.
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Who knows?
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We'll see if one of us takes the opportunity here.
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But ultimately, I've got a little bit of ground to cover.
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And I've got four games to make up over the course of the next half of the season.
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The good thing for you with the double up challenge is you really only need two if you use your challenge correctly, depending on how confident you are in the games.
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It's true.
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Spoiler alert.
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There's a couple, maybe more, maybe less that we do not agree on for this week.
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So the fans are left to continue listening in for the next 45 minutes to find out.
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It's true.
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And yeah, I am up by four.
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I feel like the witch on the broomstick is right on my heels right now.
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I feel like I'm a little plump.
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Am I the witch?
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, just for the Halloween theme, you know, in this, uh, in this instance, yes, you are.
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Halloween theme.
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I see what you did there.
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Good save.
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Good save.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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I'm like Hansel.
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I'm running through the forest.
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I'm a little plump guy and you're the witch on the broomstick kind of chasing after me and put me in the potion.
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Oh, okay.
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Sounds good.
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Just taking advantage of the little kids.
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Exactly.
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And yeah, I was feeling good.
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I was running through the forest more than a five game lead.
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Now I can, I can, I can hear the, uh, the whoosh of the broom in the background.
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So it's getting a little tighter.
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Hopefully this, I think you're up to like six or seven at one point, but I've got back down to four and I'm grateful for that because things were looking bleak for me.
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Things were not looking great.
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I was starting to count my chickens there for a little bit, but we're down to four and this week's going to be a big week.
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We still got nine more.
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So plenty of time to start celebrating any victories just yet, but I'm feeling pretty good still.
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All right.
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Well, glad to hear you feeling good.
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Thank you.
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I'm feeling not so good.
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I'm feeling like I had too much candy yesterday and I'm going to have too many waffles in a few months.
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But hey, like you said, don't count those chickens before they hatch.
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Plenty of time.
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Just one step at a time here for me.
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Was it too much candy or was it too many beers at Vudu last night?
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It might have been too many beers.
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It might have been too many beers for me, but it was an adult Halloween, okay?
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Okay.
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Well, hey.
00:16:35
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No judgment.
00:16:36
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Hey, I'm 21.
00:16:36
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I'm 21.
00:16:37
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Whoa, whoa.
00:16:37
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Check my license.
00:16:38
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Oh, yeah.
00:16:39
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Let's see the ID.
00:16:40
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Let's see the ID.
00:16:40
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Okay.
00:16:42
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I'm only 21 though.
00:16:43
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I'm not any older.
00:16:45
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Nope.
00:16:45
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You're 21 and you're a couple of days older than me.
00:16:48
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So I, uh, I'm 21, but a little, a little younger.
00:16:52
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Oh, I'm older than you now.
00:16:53
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It's probably 10 days.
00:16:54
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Yeah.
00:16:55
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Oh, okay.
00:16:55
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Okay.
00:16:56
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Yeah.
00:16:56
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Weird how that switched around.
00:16:58
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Absolutely.

NFL Injuries and Trades Discussion

00:17:00
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All right, well, without further ado, we've got a lot of games to cover, and I'm pretty excited about some of these themed games that we're going to jump into.
00:17:07
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Can't wait.
00:17:08
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So go ahead and get started with the injuries for the week, so we can take those into consideration as we look ahead.
00:17:16
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And there were some big ones throughout the past couple of weeks, but we'll talk about the big ones heading into this week, specifically the
00:17:25
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Kirk Cousins, unfortunately, tore his Achilles.
00:17:28
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Almost the exact same injury that we saw take out Aaron Rodgers.
00:17:32
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Two quarterbacks, two previous quarterbacks from the NFC North, unfortunately, suffering this injury.
00:17:40
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like fingers crossed prayers that this doesn't happen to our quarterbacks.
00:17:44
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But yes, he tore his Achilles.
00:17:45
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He will be out for the rest of the season.
00:17:48
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Tyrod Taylor has been operating under center for the New York Giants in Daniel Jones's place as Daniel Jones has been out.
00:17:59
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And he has a rib injury, so he is day to day.
00:18:02
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That'll be something we're going to want to watch if Daniel Jones is going to be good to go.
00:18:05
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If Tyrod Taylor is going to be good to go, that's a game we're going to want to keep an eye on.
00:18:10
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Matthew Stafford has a UCL sprain.
00:18:12
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He is also day-to-day coming up this weekend as he looks to take on a former opponent in the Green Bay Packers.
00:18:21
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Drake London of the Atlanta Falcons has suffered a groin injury and he is week-to-week.
00:18:27
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Kendrick Bourne tore his ACL.
00:18:30
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He is unfortunately out for the rest of the season.
00:18:34
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Darren Waller suffered a hamstring injury, and he is questionable for this week.
00:18:39
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And Kenny Pickett, another big name, obviously something we're going to want to watch.
00:18:43
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He's got a Thursday night game this week, suffered a rib injury, and he is questionable for Thursday night.
00:18:52
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Beyond the injuries.
00:18:55
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I felt like I was a tongue twister there trying to get through all of those.
00:18:59
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Yeah, geez.
00:19:00
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Oh my gosh.
00:19:01
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Sounded like you had about 10 warheads in your mouth there.
00:19:03
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Oh my word.
00:19:04
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Beyond the injuries, there's also been some big moves in terms of trades,
00:19:09
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benching, all of those different things around the league.
00:19:12
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Bob, you want to give a quick update of the big trades that you have seen as well as some of the moves that we've seen with benching starting quarterbacks even without trading them?
00:19:24
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Shoot, I didn't have this written down.
00:19:25
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I was not prepared for this.
00:19:26
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Oh, that's fine.
00:19:27
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Just kidding.
00:19:28
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I am always ready.
00:19:29
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Trick or treat.
00:19:30
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That was a trick.
00:19:31
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Okay, so lucky for us, it was actually a pretty chill game
00:19:37
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Trade deadline day yesterday.
00:19:39
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I feel like a lot of people were pretty excited for a lot of big names to be moved from non-contenders to contenders, and that was just not the case.
00:19:48
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There were a couple notable moves, though.
00:19:52
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I'd say we'd agree that the biggest high-profile name moved was Chase Young, the defensive tackle from the Commanders.
00:20:01
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Got moved to the Niners.
00:20:03
Speaker
So speaking of Halloween, that is very spooky for...
00:20:06
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That is frightening.
00:20:08
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That's a horror movie waiting to happen for anybody going up against that defense.
00:20:12
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Yes, that is very scary for many offensive lines, many running backs, many quarterbacks, and many fan bases in the NFC West and NFC, any contending teams, aka the Lions right now.
00:20:24
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Gasp!
00:20:25
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What?
00:20:26
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Gasp!
00:20:27
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Oh, Freaky Friday.
00:20:28
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Many people are not happy with that addition.
00:20:30
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Now they've got Bosa and they got young two Buckeyes in the same line.
00:20:33
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That is scurry.
00:20:35
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So he moved over to the commanders or sorry, from the commanders to the Niners for a third round pick, which seemed not like not a lot for someone of his caliber.
00:20:43
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So they really got away with a great deal there.
00:20:47
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His counterpart on the commanders Montez sweats,
00:20:52
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Strangely and freakily enough, got moved to my Chicago Bears.
00:20:57
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I went into yesterday expecting the Bears to be moving some of my favorite players, not adding new defensive pieces.
00:21:05
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So that was quite the surprise.
00:21:09
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Big time surprise.
00:21:11
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Big time treat for me.
00:21:12
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Big time trick for a lot of other people.
00:21:15
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Maybe a trick though for the Bears.
00:21:16
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We'll see if they can hold him past his contract year that ends this year.
00:21:20
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So if they don't extend him as a huge, huge trick for the Bears fans, including myself, we've had a lot of tricks recently.
00:21:28
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That's a classic Ryan Poles trick is what that is.
00:21:32
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Yeah, he was the talk of town for a while there.
00:21:35
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He's had a couple of tricks in a row, so hopefully this is not one of them.
00:21:38
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But we got Montez Sweat.
00:21:40
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We have one of the worst defensive rushing lines in the NFL, so hopefully this will help.
00:21:46
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And hopefully we can lock him in for a couple of years.
00:21:47
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So we gave up a second-round pick for him.
00:21:51
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So if we let him go, that's just basically throwing away a second-round pick, which would stink.
00:21:54
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But I digress.
00:21:56
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We grabbed him.
00:21:58
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And then the Vikings, who Mac just alluded to, yes, great word, lost Kirk Cousins.
00:22:04
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He's still got it, folks.
00:22:05
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He's still got it.
00:22:06
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Still got it.
00:22:07
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They lost Kirk Cousins, as she just said.
00:22:10
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They've been looking for a quarterback.
00:22:11
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They just picked up Josh Dobbs from the Cardinals, who they just announced was being benched.
00:22:19
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And the Vikings said, oh, we'll take him.
00:22:20
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So they snagged him.
00:22:23
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And I think it was like for a sixth and seventh round swap.
00:22:27
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So the Cardinals got a sixth round from the Vikings, and they took the Cardinals' seventh, the Vikings did.
00:22:33
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So it was really basically just like a little swap of picks.
00:22:38
Speaker
And then the last move to note, who was the cornerback from the Packers that got moved?
00:22:45
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Rahul.
00:22:47
Speaker
Rahul Douglas?
00:22:48
Speaker
Yes, Razul Douglas got moved from the Packers to the Bills.
00:22:52
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They were looking for some secondary help, and they got that in Razul.
00:22:55
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So, like I said, overall, a pretty quiet trade deadline, but those were the moves.
00:23:02
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And then do you want to talk about the benchings or?
00:23:05
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Sure.
00:23:05
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Yeah.
00:23:06
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So, so as you mentioned, Josh Dobbs was going to get benched.
00:23:08
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He got moved to the Vikings.
00:23:11
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So something to note there for the Cardinals is they are potentially going to be getting Kyler Murray back.
00:23:16
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If not, they'll have a rookie quarterback.
00:23:20
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Honestly, couldn't even tell you his name starting this weekend.
00:23:23
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So that's obviously a big one to note if they get Kyler

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00:23:25
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Murray back.
00:23:25
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That's a much bigger upgrade than a rookie who's never seen the field, in my opinion.
00:23:30
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And we will see what happens against a strong defensive Browns defensive team.
00:23:35
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front from the Browns.
00:23:37
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And then beyond that, the Raiders got absolutely spooked the night before Halloween by my Detroit Lions.
00:23:45
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They got whomped on so hard that they benched Jimmy G. We have another rookie, I believe, is going to be starting for the Raiders this upcoming weekend.
00:23:57
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So definitely another one to watch.
00:24:00
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And then finally, for the, who is it?
00:24:04
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The, um,
00:24:06
Speaker
The, who is starting Taylor Heineke?
00:24:09
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Oh, the Atlanta Falcons has benched, have benched Desmond Ritter and they are going to be starting Taylor Heineke this upcoming weekend.
00:24:16
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So lots of benchings, lots of moving around at quarterback and Hey, if you can't cut it, here's the door.
00:24:24
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If you can't cut it, you're going to get cut.
00:24:27
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You are.
00:24:28
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That's, that's the name.
00:24:29
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That's the name of the game, baby.
00:24:30
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Hey, you know, you gotta, you gotta perform or someone's going to perform for you.
00:24:35
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So,
00:24:36
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Yeah, definitely some crazy moves in the last 48 hours.
00:24:40
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And yeah, your boys definitely put quite a haunting to the Las Vegas Raiders, fired their coach, fired their OC, Devontae Adams requested a trade, and then they benched their quarterback.
00:24:53
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So man, from going to that raucous environment at Ford Field to all those changes, you really kind of messed up the Raiders world there.
00:25:02
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Yeah, that flight home was probably not the best flight that the Raiders team had taken together.
00:25:07
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Wouldn't imagine so.
00:25:09
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Yeah, can't imagine.
00:25:10
Speaker
But anyway, speaking of the name of the game, the name of the game today is we are going to be going through every single game, and we are going to be comparing them to some classic games.
00:25:21
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Halloween movies.
00:25:23
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And I got to give you a quick preface here that I don't really watch horror movies or scary movies.
00:25:29
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So I think I'm going more of like the classic route of some different Halloween movies.
00:25:34
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Bob, you probably can handle the gore and the guts and the horror a little bit better than I. So I'm not really sure what route you're going to take.
00:25:42
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But I am very excited to see what we compare these games through for this week.
00:25:48
Speaker
And I think we should just get on started.
00:25:50
Speaker
Let's just dive on in.
00:25:52
Speaker
Let's just dive on in Thursday night, 8, 15 p.m.
00:25:55
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The Tennessee Titans at Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:26:01
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So for me, this game, I don't know if you've ever seen this movie.
00:26:06
Speaker
Have you ever seen the movie Goosebumps?
00:26:09
Speaker
I've seen the show Goosebumps.
00:26:11
Speaker
I don't know if I've ever seen the movie.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yep, so great, great point.
00:26:14
Speaker
There was a series, Goosebumps, an original series a long time ago.
00:26:18
Speaker
I think there's a new series coming out on Disney Plus actively that's coming out.
00:26:23
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It's a little plug for Goosebumps.
00:26:24
Speaker
Maybe they'll be our sponsor.
00:26:25
Speaker
Who knows?
00:26:27
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And there was also a movie, I think it was like 2015, with Jack Black.
00:26:32
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And in the movie, basically what happens, there's this new kid in town, and he starts unleashing all of these monsters,
00:26:41
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throughout town.
00:26:44
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And I'm going to tell you right now, the new kid in town unleashing monsters is Will Levis of the Tennessee Titans.
00:26:52
Speaker
Another benching that occurred is Ryan Tannehill saw the door.
00:26:56
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They sat him.
00:26:58
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He's riding the pine and they are starting Will Levis from Kentucky.
00:27:02
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If you'll remember, he was drafted this year.
00:27:04
Speaker
And he was the new kid in town, unleashing monsters, making plays, getting DeAndre Hopkins involved.
00:27:11
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The Titans looked pretty good this past weekend.
00:27:15
Speaker
They snuck by a win.
00:27:16
Speaker
Will Levis looked pretty good in his debut.
00:27:20
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I will say, though, in this movie, Goosebumps, spoiler alert.
00:27:24
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They really open it up at the end for there to be a sequel because at the end you learn that not all of the monsters are slain.
00:27:33
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There are still some out creeping across the town.
00:27:37
Speaker
God.
00:27:38
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For Will Levis, the Pittsburgh Steelers defense is that monster that's still out there, yet to be slain.
00:27:46
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I think they're going to have the opportunity.
00:27:48
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They've seen him.
00:27:49
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They've studied him now.
00:27:51
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Bob and I were just talking about how new quarterbacks come in, and they kind of have an advantage because there's no real film on them.
00:27:57
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Teams don't really know what to expect.
00:27:59
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It's a short week, so that may impact the Steelers being able to study him too much.
00:28:04
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But I think they'll have the opportunity.
00:28:07
Speaker
They're a super solid defense to learn a little bit more about him.
00:28:11
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Hopefully hold him enough to get their offense going.
00:28:15
Speaker
I did not realize that Kenny Pickett was injured, so I do want to watch that.
00:28:19
Speaker
This is assuming he plays at full strength and is healthy.
00:28:23
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That's kind of how I created my rankings here.
00:28:27
Speaker
But I kind of have them at a spooky high, six.
00:28:33
Speaker
Oh, man.
00:28:34
Speaker
If that's spooky, you're going to be a lot more spooked out with this.
00:28:38
Speaker
Also, how many times do you think we can say spooky on this podcast?
00:28:40
Speaker
Probably at least 1,000.
00:28:42
Speaker
Okay.
00:28:42
Speaker
Because I was going to say, I feel like we're about at 50.
00:28:44
Speaker
And let's just keep it rocking and rolling.
00:28:46
Speaker
I love it.
00:28:47
Speaker
Every game.
00:28:47
Speaker
Just throw out spooky a couple times.
00:28:50
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Okay.
00:28:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:50
Speaker
Spooky, spooky, spooky, spooky.
00:28:51
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There's another four.
00:28:53
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That was four.
00:28:53
Speaker
That was three.
00:28:54
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Okay.
00:28:55
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Yes.
00:28:55
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I agree with everything you say.
00:28:56
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Steelers.
00:28:58
Speaker
That is a really tough place to play.
00:29:01
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Mike Tomlin is like the Terminator.
00:29:04
Speaker
He just won't go away and just continually, like, like I said earlier in the podcast with that big old fat nugget, he does not have losing season.
00:29:12
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So he's going to continue to do that.
00:29:16
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Titans.
00:29:16
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Yeah.
00:29:17
Speaker
Levis.
00:29:17
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That was a fun story, but.
00:29:19
Speaker
Like you said, there's a lot of monsters around, and the Steelers defense is one of them.
00:29:21
Speaker
I got them winning on Thursday night, but I got them at nine.
00:29:24
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Okay, that's not that spooky.
00:29:26
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It's not that far off.
00:29:28
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Okay, yeah.
00:29:29
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Nine and six, so we're three off.
00:29:30
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That's a good start.
00:29:32
Speaker
I think we are going to have a lot of discrepancies this week, though, because these were some tough games.
00:29:38
Speaker
Yeah, these were some really, really tough games, a lot of 50-50.
00:29:42
Speaker
One might even call them spooky.
00:29:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:29:45
Speaker
I would say these games are very spooky.
00:29:46
Speaker
That's a good way to put it.
00:29:47
Speaker
Yeah, I've never used that word before, but I think that would be it.
00:29:51
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I don't think I've ever heard it in my entire life.
00:29:54
Speaker
All right, moving on.
00:29:55
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Sunday morning, 9.30 a.m., we're traveling over to Guten Tag, Frankfurt, Germany, for the Miami Dolphins to take on the Kansas City Chiefs.
00:30:09
Speaker
Man, those folks in Germany are really getting a show here.
00:30:14
Speaker
swear to you, I totally forgot that this game was in Germany.
00:30:19
Speaker
One of the reasons I went with the Chiefs is because I thought this was in KC at Arrowhead.
00:30:23
Speaker
So that's some pretty scary lack of research on my part there.
00:30:29
Speaker
But very good, Guten Tag.
00:30:30
Speaker
Dein Garten ist fantastisch.
00:30:32
Speaker
So this is going to be a really, really good game.
00:30:35
Speaker
You're right.
00:30:36
Speaker
Those German NFL folks are going to be in for a treat.
00:30:41
Speaker
I wonder how many of them know that these are
00:30:44
Speaker
maybe the top two teams in our league.
00:30:46
Speaker
So the NFL is saying London, here's your, here's your tea.
00:30:50
Speaker
Here's your crumpets.
00:30:51
Speaker
You can have the Jaguars and the Browns.
00:30:54
Speaker
You can have the Jaguars and the commanders Germany.
00:30:57
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We're going to give you the dolphins and the chief.
00:30:59
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So kudos to a good Del for really making a splash in Germany.
00:31:03
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But speaking of Halloween movies, one of my favorites.
00:31:07
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And like Mac said, I do like the classics.
00:31:10
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Sorry, Mac was coughing up along there.
00:31:11
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You okay?
00:31:12
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Yeah, I'm good.
00:31:14
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Okay, good, good, good.
00:31:14
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Wanted to make sure you were alive over there.
00:31:17
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But, like Max said, she likes the classics, and as do I. I love your, you know, good old Disney Halloween movies, the happy endings.
00:31:26
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But I also like the really just scare you down to your bones Halloween movies.
00:31:32
Speaker
And the Halloween, I don't know if it's like, there's like six or seven movies.
00:31:38
Speaker
There is a ton.
00:31:41
Speaker
So,
00:31:42
Speaker
I watched one last night with Jamie Lee Curtis and Michael Myers is the bad guy in those movies.
00:31:48
Speaker
And if you, have you, have you seen any of the, the Halloween Michael Myers movies?
00:31:52
Speaker
I cannot say that I have, I know the premise, but no, I have not watched them.
00:31:56
Speaker
Do you know the classic bump, bump, bump, the music.
00:32:00
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Yes.
00:32:01
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Yes.
00:32:01
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Yes.
00:32:02
Speaker
I also think I kind of fudged that up.
00:32:03
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That was not the right one.
00:32:04
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I know what you're talking about.
00:32:05
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Yes.
00:32:06
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He's got the white creepy mask on and the guy just won't die.
00:32:10
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And with the Chiefs, I just think Mahomes is like Michael Myers.
00:32:15
Speaker
You can tackle him.
00:32:16
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You can sack him.
00:32:17
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You can hit him.
00:32:18
Speaker
The guy just doesn't stay down.
00:32:20
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He doesn't stay dead.
00:32:22
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And he gets up.
00:32:23
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He rises through the flames.
00:32:25
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He can get shot 15 times.
00:32:29
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They bury him.
00:32:30
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And then all of a sudden, Michael Myers, next October 31st, is walking around.
00:32:34
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looking for Jamie Lee Curtis.
00:32:35
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And I think after losing in Denver last Sunday, we had 16 points on them.
00:32:41
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Me and Mac were DMing him.
00:32:43
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We were DMing Kelsey.
00:32:44
Speaker
We were DMing Swift.
00:32:46
Speaker
And we were pissed.
00:32:48
Speaker
And some people are saying, are the Chiefs done?
00:32:51
Speaker
Is the Mahomes just not himself?
00:32:54
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No, Michael Myers will rise and he will
00:32:58
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haunt defenses once again.
00:33:00
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And I think that's exactly what's going to happen in Germany.
00:33:03
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I don't think he's going to be haunting them too much because I have this at one, but I think Michael Myers and my homes will stand up.
00:33:12
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They will get just enough points against a dolphins defense that has been struggling a little bit.
00:33:17
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And that's why I have the chiefs having that long flight home across the Atlantic with a win at one.
00:33:24
Speaker
Okay.
00:33:26
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Okay.
00:33:27
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I like the synopsis there.
00:33:28
Speaker
I like the reference to Michael Myers.
00:33:30
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Thank you.
00:33:31
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I will say, I think, speaking of haunting, I think my confidence level here is going to haunt you for a while.
00:33:37
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Oh, my God.
00:33:39
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I definitely went back and forth on this one for a little bit, but then I started digging into the facts and figures here.
00:33:46
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And I'll tell you the one thing that does give me pause, and first and foremost, I'm fully willing to go a little bit lower on this one.
00:33:53
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The one thing that does give me pause is the Dolphins are already in Germany and the Chiefs will not be there until Friday from what I read.
00:34:02
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So there's two different approaches for what they are doing for this game.
00:34:06
Speaker
And going early, we have seen at times, has allowed people to acclimate a little bit more for the game, not be as sluggish.
00:34:14
Speaker
We saw that with the Chargers playing the Jags.
00:34:17
Speaker
So that certainly could have an impact on the Chiefs.
00:34:21
Speaker
That being said, though, as I was digging a little bit more into the Dolphins,
00:34:25
Speaker
I realized that while, yes, scoring 70 points in any NFL game against any NFL team, I think is extremely impressive.
00:34:33
Speaker
The reality of the situation is that their wins have not... Noah, don't come after me if you're listening.
00:34:42
Speaker
They have not been that impressive.
00:34:44
Speaker
If we look at their losses, right, they've lost to the Bills and the Eagles pretty handedly.
00:34:51
Speaker
They lost to the Eagles 31-17, and they lost to the Bills 48-20.
00:34:53
Speaker
Whoa.
00:34:58
Speaker
In terms of their wins, they have beat the Patriots twice.
00:35:03
Speaker
They have beat the Giants.
00:35:05
Speaker
They have beat the Broncos.
00:35:07
Speaker
And the only one that's been somewhat pretty good was week one where they beat the Chargers.
00:35:13
Speaker
Their wins are not necessarily these.
00:35:17
Speaker
Oh, and I'm sorry.
00:35:18
Speaker
Also, the Panthers is on that list.
00:35:20
Speaker
Those are their six wins that they have had.
00:35:22
Speaker
Two for the Patriots, one for the Panthers, the Broncos, the Chargers, and the Giants.
00:35:28
Speaker
Their wins, if we're being quite honest, I don't think are as impressive as maybe their record shows.
00:35:35
Speaker
So with all that being said, I definitely do think that the Chiefs are a better team here.
00:35:42
Speaker
I mean, the Dolphins, of course, we know they have electric ability, but I think in terms of winning games against other solid teams, the Dolphins have not exactly been battle tested yet.
00:35:54
Speaker
So we'll see what goes on with that one.
00:35:57
Speaker
With all that in mind, I have the Chiefs at seven.
00:36:02
Speaker
Okay, that's a little spooky.
00:36:04
Speaker
That is definitely a little spooky.
00:36:06
Speaker
That is definitely a little spooky.
00:36:08
Speaker
I thought you had me scared that I was about to be double digits.
00:36:10
Speaker
So we can chat on that one.
00:36:13
Speaker
We can chat.
00:36:14
Speaker
We can chat.
00:36:15
Speaker
One to seven.
00:36:16
Speaker
Six is, that's a lot.
00:36:18
Speaker
So we're going to have some work to do and some discussions on that one for sure.
00:36:22
Speaker
We sure are.
00:36:23
Speaker
We sure are.
00:36:23
Speaker
You came ready to battle on that one.
00:36:25
Speaker
Yeah, I did.
00:36:27
Speaker
I knew I was going to need to defend that one a bit.
00:36:30
Speaker
It's almost like you knew that we were going to have a different thought.
00:36:34
Speaker
I would have put all my marbles on the fact that you were going to put that game at one.
00:36:39
Speaker
How many marbles do you have?
00:36:40
Speaker
I have at least 10 marbles.
00:36:42
Speaker
That's a lot of marbles.
00:36:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:43
Speaker
So I was going to put, I actually just counted 11.
00:36:47
Speaker
I was going to put 11 marbles on that game.
00:36:49
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
00:36:50
Speaker
Okay.
00:36:51
Speaker
Well, kudos to you for coming ready to battle.
00:36:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:53
Speaker
And we're going to have to discuss that one big time off air because it's going to be tough.
00:36:59
Speaker
All right.
00:37:00
Speaker
Sounds good.
00:37:00
Speaker
Moving into the Sunday afternoon slate of games, one o'clock.
00:37:04
Speaker
We are kicking it off with the Minnesota Vikings at Atlanta Falcons.
00:37:11
Speaker
And I apologize.
00:37:12
Speaker
I just smacked the microphone.
00:37:14
Speaker
So I know it came through for Bob.
00:37:15
Speaker
And if it's not edited out later on, then apologies.
00:37:19
Speaker
It's okay.
00:37:21
Speaker
I'm just deaf over here.
00:37:22
Speaker
Continue.
00:37:23
Speaker
For this game...
00:37:24
Speaker
These are some teams that are calling in for reinforcements.
00:37:30
Speaker
And not sure if you've ever seen this movie, but one of the greatest Halloween reinforcements brought in, maybe not greatest because he ends up not doing a great job, is the one and only Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
00:37:46
Speaker
Have you ever seen that movie, Bob?
00:37:49
Speaker
I've seen commercials of that.
00:37:51
Speaker
I don't think I've ever seen the actual movie.
00:37:54
Speaker
Okay.
00:37:54
Speaker
It's definitely been a while for me, but I was refreshing my memory today.
00:37:58
Speaker
And essentially there's this couple and they die and they're haunting this house and they need reinforcements.
00:38:06
Speaker
They need to bring in backup to assist and scare away all these other like spirits and people and everything like that.
00:38:13
Speaker
And so they call on the one and only Beetlejuice to come in as a backup and reinforcements and help.
00:38:20
Speaker
He doesn't really help in the end.
00:38:21
Speaker
It ends up not being great.
00:38:23
Speaker
But
00:38:24
Speaker
Forget that part.
00:38:24
Speaker
I'm talking about the reinforcements and they're calling in reinforcements.
00:38:27
Speaker
And both of these teams are calling in reinforcements.
00:38:31
Speaker
The Minnesota Vikings are calling in Josh Dobbs.
00:38:34
Speaker
They gave him a little ring-a-ling and said, Joshy, come on over.
00:38:37
Speaker
You're in the pine.
00:38:38
Speaker
Maybe you can come play for us.
00:38:40
Speaker
It's either going to be him or a backup, the rookie.
00:38:44
Speaker
And I apologize.
00:38:45
Speaker
I should know his name, but I don't.
00:38:47
Speaker
We'll send him some swag.
00:38:47
Speaker
It's okay.
00:38:48
Speaker
We'll send him some swag.
00:38:49
Speaker
I think it's something Hall.
00:38:50
Speaker
So we'll send him double swag because I also don't know.
00:38:53
Speaker
Something Hall.
00:38:54
Speaker
I'll look it up as you're talking here.
00:38:57
Speaker
I'm looking right meow.
00:38:59
Speaker
It is.
00:39:01
Speaker
Actually, nope.
00:39:02
Speaker
You're going to look it up while I'm talking because I don't have it on my app.
00:39:04
Speaker
I'm going to look it up right now and it's, oh.
00:39:08
Speaker
It says Dobbs.
00:39:10
Speaker
Jaren Hall.
00:39:12
Speaker
Jaren Hall.
00:39:13
Speaker
Okay, so they're going to say Jaren or Josh, one of you, we need you to hop in.
00:39:17
Speaker
We're calling in reinforcements.
00:39:19
Speaker
Atlanta Falcons, we're sitting Desmond Ritter.
00:39:22
Speaker
He is riding the pine.
00:39:23
Speaker
We're going to call in reinforcements.
00:39:25
Speaker
Taylor Heineke.
00:39:27
Speaker
And for me, obviously, Dobbs has played for the Cardinals.
00:39:32
Speaker
He's been doing sort of okay for the Cardinals.
00:39:34
Speaker
Not too shabby on a pretty difficult team to do well in.
00:39:39
Speaker
But for me, Heineke is a little bit more accustomed to the backup role and being those reinforcements.
00:39:48
Speaker
Not only that, he also has Bijan Robinson in the backfield coming after him to be able to help him out, bail him out in the run game, maybe loosen some things up for him.
00:39:59
Speaker
the Falcons, and not to mention, he now has been backup.
00:40:03
Speaker
He's been there.
00:40:04
Speaker
He knows the scheme.
00:40:05
Speaker
He knows what to do for the Falcons and step into this role.
00:40:09
Speaker
I think it's going to take a while for Dobbs to jump in and really get the Vikings offense under control and know where he's going.
00:40:17
Speaker
So I know this is one we disagree on, which to say a word I've never said before is pretty scary because I have this one high.
00:40:25
Speaker
I have this game and I have it at 12.
00:40:30
Speaker
And I have the Falcons winning.
00:40:34
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
00:40:36
Speaker
You have the Falcons at 12.
00:40:39
Speaker
Yep.
00:40:40
Speaker
Wow.
00:40:41
Speaker
I fully believe in Heineke's ability to step in here way more than I do for Josh Dobbs to learn this offense in a week without a Justin Jefferson, without some of his key weapons and be able to play in this way and win in Atlanta.
00:40:59
Speaker
That confidence really scares me.
00:41:01
Speaker
Halloween's scary.
00:41:03
Speaker
Monsters are scary.
00:41:05
Speaker
But they have Beetlejuice, so that's why.
00:41:07
Speaker
Oh, well, didn't you say that Beetlejuice didn't really get the job done?
00:41:11
Speaker
Yeah, so for the Vikings, he's not going to get the job done.
00:41:14
Speaker
Oh, but he's going to get the job done for the Falcons?
00:41:17
Speaker
Yes, correct.
00:41:18
Speaker
Okay, that's a better Beetlejuice.
00:41:20
Speaker
Got it.
00:41:20
Speaker
Okay.
00:41:21
Speaker
In that case, I guess we should go.
00:41:23
Speaker
That's alternate universe Beetlejuice.
00:41:25
Speaker
Oh, okay.
00:41:25
Speaker
That makes all the sense in the world.
00:41:27
Speaker
In that case, I guess we're going 12 on the Falcons and I don't need to say anything.
00:41:31
Speaker
No, why don't you tell us why you're going with the Vikings?
00:41:34
Speaker
Yes.
00:41:35
Speaker
With the hurt Kirk Cousins or hurt Dustin Jefferson.
00:41:39
Speaker
Tell us more.
00:41:40
Speaker
Yes.
00:41:42
Speaker
Thank you for leading off with that, for really having me dig out of the grave here.
00:41:45
Speaker
Yeah, no problem.
00:41:47
Speaker
So that is true.
00:41:49
Speaker
Justin Jefferson, I believe is the best receiver in the NFL.
00:41:52
Speaker
He's hurt.
00:41:53
Speaker
Kirk Cousins was looking like once again, one of the best statistical quarterbacks in the NFL because Mac last year hit us with a massive nugget, how he has, he had better some, some like,
00:42:07
Speaker
strange stat that he was better at Mahomes than I can't remember what it was.
00:42:11
Speaker
He has a higher passing percentage or passing completion percentage than I'm pretty sure any other quarterback in the NFL right now.
00:42:18
Speaker
There you go.
00:42:19
Speaker
Basically Mahomes included like they have a very similar statistics.
00:42:24
Speaker
Yes.
00:42:24
Speaker
Okay.
00:42:25
Speaker
That's what it was.
00:42:26
Speaker
So basically the Vikings in the last four weeks have lost Justin Jefferson and Patrick Mahomes.
00:42:30
Speaker
So that's, that's really hard to come back from.
00:42:33
Speaker
But the reasons that the reason that I went with the Vikings is they've been super hot.
00:42:38
Speaker
It looks like your boys were going to be running away with that division by about Thanksgiving.
00:42:42
Speaker
And the Vikings have quietly won three games in a row.
00:42:45
Speaker
And yes, that's with a healthy quarterback.
00:42:48
Speaker
And now they do not have a healthy quarterback, but they've been winning a lot of games with their defense.
00:42:52
Speaker
Their defense has been one of the best in the NFL recently.
00:42:55
Speaker
They still have TJ Hawk, the ex lion.
00:42:57
Speaker
He's been crushing.
00:42:58
Speaker
They still have Addison.
00:42:59
Speaker
They still have Osborne.
00:43:00
Speaker
And I think Dobbs is a good enough backup.
00:43:03
Speaker
to just kind of be like a game manager.
00:43:06
Speaker
And no offense to Kurt.
00:43:08
Speaker
I know he's probably healing right now.
00:43:10
Speaker
He just had surgery.
00:43:11
Speaker
He's been through a lot, probably eating a lot of Halloween candy.
00:43:15
Speaker
He is a glorified, this might not be good to say because he's been really good.
00:43:21
Speaker
Don't talk smack about Kurt.
00:43:23
Speaker
He doesn't deserve that right now because he just tore his Achilles.
00:43:25
Speaker
But he, in my opinion, is just a really good game manager.
00:43:30
Speaker
He can't beat you with his legs.
00:43:32
Speaker
He can't really beat you with his arm strength.
00:43:33
Speaker
He just kind of gets the job done.
00:43:35
Speaker
And I think it's kind of like with the Niners.
00:43:38
Speaker
No offense, Purdy.
00:43:39
Speaker
I'm going to have a lot of apologies after this episode.
00:43:42
Speaker
Gosh.
00:43:43
Speaker
Bob, I already gave you all my marbles for that.
00:43:45
Speaker
I don't have any more marbles to give out for any of these players that you're really dissing right now.
00:43:50
Speaker
Nick's going to have to give me some of her marbles then.
00:43:52
Speaker
So we're just going to have to figure it out.
00:43:54
Speaker
My marbles are hers and hers are mine.
00:43:56
Speaker
Marriage.
00:43:57
Speaker
That was sweet.
00:43:58
Speaker
I'll find marbles somewhere else.
00:44:00
Speaker
But I think...
00:44:02
Speaker
A lot of quarterbacks can fit into this Minnesota offensive scheme.
00:44:06
Speaker
And I didn't go heavy on this confidence.
00:44:09
Speaker
I did think it's going to be really close.
00:44:11
Speaker
I still do.
00:44:12
Speaker
I didn't go 12 heavy.
00:44:14
Speaker
That's, that's crazy heavy.
00:44:16
Speaker
That's like Mac just went to voodoo and had a hundred beers and a hundred candy bars.
00:44:22
Speaker
I'm convinced you made that confidence last night in your Halloween candy and, and a beer stupor.
00:44:29
Speaker
I have the Vikings staying hot.
00:44:32
Speaker
Falcons have been really bad the last couple of weeks.
00:44:34
Speaker
They've had the inner team drama with head coach and quarterback carousel.
00:44:39
Speaker
Heineke also hasn't played in a long time.
00:44:40
Speaker
Dobbs, he's been playing all season.
00:44:43
Speaker
So that's why I have the Vikings, their defense, the fact that that offense is kind of jiving and no offense, Kurt, go green, go white.
00:44:53
Speaker
I think he's kind of a game manager.
00:44:55
Speaker
I have the Vikings going into Hotlanta, and I had them winning it too.
00:44:59
Speaker
So I think it's a lot more reasonable than 12.
00:45:01
Speaker
But hey, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
00:45:04
Speaker
All right.
00:45:05
Speaker
Can I throw one more juicy nugget at you?
00:45:08
Speaker
I'm not hungry.
00:45:09
Speaker
I don't know if you're stuffed from Halloween candy, but I got one more nugget for you.
00:45:12
Speaker
Well, you're going to give it to me whether I want it or not.
00:45:13
Speaker
I'm going to give it to you anyway.
00:45:15
Speaker
The Vikings?
00:45:16
Speaker
just had their very first rushing touchdown of the season this past weekend, which means translated their run game is not that strong.
00:45:27
Speaker
So they're going to have to rely on Dobbs or this rookie to completely carry them through this game.
00:45:35
Speaker
I just truly do not believe that a brand new quarterback to the scheme is going to be able to do that.
00:45:41
Speaker
Or maybe Madison, the running back is going to be Beetlejuice taking,
00:45:46
Speaker
Your movie.
00:45:48
Speaker
He has not been that great this season.
00:45:50
Speaker
Yeah, but that's Beetlejuice.
00:45:51
Speaker
Beetlejuice isn't that great, but he comes in and gets the job done.
00:45:54
Speaker
No, he doesn't get the job done.
00:45:56
Speaker
Okay.
00:45:57
Speaker
Like I said, Madison might be Beetlejuice.
00:45:59
Speaker
He might not get the job done, but he might be someone like Michael Myers that does get the job done.
00:46:05
Speaker
Maybe.
00:46:05
Speaker
Well, anyway, that's a juicy nugget though, right?
00:46:08
Speaker
And they're going to need to rely on a good quarterback.
00:46:11
Speaker
I disagree that Kirk is just a game manager.
00:46:14
Speaker
I think he's a good quarterback.
00:46:15
Speaker
And
00:46:16
Speaker
I think that they're not going to have that in anybody else.
00:46:20
Speaker
Do you think I'm going to have to apologize to the Cousins family?
00:46:23
Speaker
Yes, I think you are.
00:46:25
Speaker
Does it help that I'm a Michigan State fan?
00:46:28
Speaker
No.
00:46:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:30
Speaker
That was probably the worst Halloween of his life.
00:46:32
Speaker
And I'm here calling him a game manager.
00:46:33
Speaker
Sorry, Kirk.
00:46:34
Speaker
I'll send you some swag and some candy.
00:46:36
Speaker
And yeah, we're going to have to discuss this one offline.
00:46:38
Speaker
Cause we got about 14 minutes to do 13 games.
00:46:41
Speaker
All right.
00:46:42
Speaker
Well, here we go.
00:46:42
Speaker
Let's jump into the next one.
00:46:43
Speaker
It's your game.
00:46:44
Speaker
So take it away.
00:46:45
Speaker
I'm going to take it away.
00:46:47
Speaker
So this one was one of the, the, uh, movie comparisons that I just really couldn't connect anything.
00:46:53
Speaker
So my apologies, this is a big time stretch.
00:46:57
Speaker
This is going to be like my, uh,
00:46:59
Speaker
my usual advertisements that don't make a lot of sense.
00:47:02
Speaker
So Cardinals Browns, I really can't think of a more unattractive game on the schedule.
00:47:08
Speaker
Cardinals have been really bad.
00:47:09
Speaker
Now that the Panthers won last week, they are tied for the worst record in the NFL.
00:47:14
Speaker
Dobbs has been kind of piss bored.
00:47:16
Speaker
Man, Dobbs is getting a lot of screen time.
00:47:19
Speaker
They obviously just cut him.
00:47:20
Speaker
So things are
00:47:21
Speaker
Things are bad in Arizona.
00:47:23
Speaker
Vibes are low.
00:47:25
Speaker
The Browns, they had a tough loss against the Seahawks.
00:47:27
Speaker
They've been better than a lot of people thought, but the Browns are still the Browns.
00:47:31
Speaker
So this movie kind of reminded me of Frankenstein.
00:47:33
Speaker
There's just a lot going on.
00:47:35
Speaker
There's a lot of pieces put together.
00:47:37
Speaker
There's a lot of pieces put together to make up these teams.
00:47:41
Speaker
The Browns kind of have a mismatched team.
00:47:43
Speaker
Like they got Amari.
00:47:45
Speaker
They just traded.
00:47:46
Speaker
Oh, I forgot to tell people about the trade for Donovan's People Jones for the Lions.
00:47:50
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:47:51
Speaker
They just traded him to Detroit.
00:47:54
Speaker
Obviously, Chubb got hurt.
00:47:56
Speaker
So now Ford's been the guy.
00:47:57
Speaker
They've just been kind of piecing things together.
00:47:59
Speaker
The Cardinals have a really weird mixture of players with like Zach Ertz and Hollywood Brown.
00:48:04
Speaker
And this game just.
00:48:06
Speaker
It gives me a really disgusting taste in my mouth.
00:48:08
Speaker
It's like I just grabbed some cider and someone put some fireball in it and I didn't want any alcohol in my cider.
00:48:15
Speaker
So it just, this game is just so weird.
00:48:18
Speaker
And it just reminds me of Frankenstein just kind of walking around.
00:48:23
Speaker
No one's excited about this game, not even Cleveland.
00:48:27
Speaker
So yeah, that's the best I could do.
00:48:29
Speaker
And yeah, I told you it wasn't going to be the best.
00:48:32
Speaker
So who'd you pick?
00:48:34
Speaker
So I went with the Browns and I actually was the most confident in the Browns out of anybody.
00:48:42
Speaker
So that kind of goes against the Frankenstein thing.
00:48:45
Speaker
And I just, I'm just not excited for this game.
00:48:47
Speaker
So I had Browns at 14.
00:48:52
Speaker
First of all, ding-da-ling-da-ling-ding-ding.
00:48:55
Speaker
Oh, great.
00:48:56
Speaker
Second of all, you had me over here crapping my pants that this game was going to be super far apart again with the amount of just smack talk you're having on the Browns.
00:49:06
Speaker
I mean, I agree.
00:49:07
Speaker
It's kind of like a black game.
00:49:08
Speaker
But, like, I don't know.
00:49:10
Speaker
The way you were talking about the Browns, I was certain you were going with this game very low.
00:49:15
Speaker
Yeah, well, I was just trying to like have things all over the place, kind of like Frankenstein, because he's a monster.
00:49:20
Speaker
Oh, I see.
00:49:20
Speaker
He's got like a lot of different pieces.
00:49:22
Speaker
So did I succeed in that?
00:49:25
Speaker
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:49:27
Speaker
Thank you.
00:49:28
Speaker
And also, sorry that you're pooping your pants over there.
00:49:30
Speaker
Do I need to let you step away for a couple minutes?
00:49:31
Speaker
Yeah, do you mind?
00:49:32
Speaker
I'm feeling like Joe Burrow over here with skin marks.
00:49:35
Speaker
Oh, man.
00:49:37
Speaker
Well, in that case, do your thing.
00:49:38
Speaker
I'll just kind of keep you hopping around over here.
00:49:41
Speaker
Oh, my gosh.
00:49:42
Speaker
No, that's hilarious, though.
00:49:43
Speaker
Okay, well, that's also my most confident game.
00:49:46
Speaker
Amazing.
00:49:47
Speaker
I would maybe consider lowering that if Kyler Murray is back, but I don't know.
00:49:51
Speaker
I think the first game back off of so long being away with the injury, I'm going to say probably I'm still okay with it.
00:49:59
Speaker
True.
00:49:59
Speaker
And the Browns defense is kind of like their special sauce in a way.
00:50:04
Speaker
That's like their one shining aspect of that squad.
00:50:07
Speaker
So glad that we finally got a Halloween ding-dilla-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding.
00:50:11
Speaker
Love to see it.
00:50:12
Speaker
Candy bars for all the Wave Riders, and let's move on to the next one.
00:50:16
Speaker
Next game, we have the LA Rams at Green Bay Packers.
00:50:21
Speaker
So as Bob mentioned, or I'm sorry, as I mentioned earlier, Bob put the report together.
00:50:26
Speaker
Matt Stafford has a torn or a sprained UCL in one of his thumbs.
00:50:33
Speaker
And I think it's his right arm because they're concerned about his throwing arm.
00:50:37
Speaker
So he is someone that's questionable.
00:50:39
Speaker
We're going to want to watch.
00:50:40
Speaker
But ultimately, I do have the Rams in this game.
00:50:43
Speaker
And when I was thinking through game or I'm sorry, movies to compare to this game, I just really went back.
00:50:51
Speaker
I kept going back to a classic known as Hocus Pocus.
00:50:57
Speaker
Oh, baby.
00:50:57
Speaker
And in this movie, if you've never seen it, I apologize.
00:51:01
Speaker
We probably should have put a big spoiler for the beginning of this episode because we're just spoiling all of these movies.
00:51:08
Speaker
But in this movie, there's three witches and they are trying to suck the life out of all these kids to stay young forever and put on these curses on this town.
00:51:19
Speaker
And they end up getting cursed themselves where they have to be asleep and they're asleep for centuries, right?
00:51:26
Speaker
until someone comes along and breaks the curse.
00:51:29
Speaker
And these two teams are kind of asleep at the moment.
00:51:33
Speaker
These teams are a little bit asleep.
00:51:35
Speaker
The Rams were looking pretty good.
00:51:36
Speaker
They had Pukunokua doing really well.
00:51:39
Speaker
They had Cooper Cup out.
00:51:40
Speaker
I thought when he came back, it was just going to be this electric thing.
00:51:43
Speaker
Maybe they were going to go back to their Super Bowl shape where they're just knocking out teams left and right.
00:51:48
Speaker
They still had a lot of similar pieces.
00:51:50
Speaker
The Packers, on the other hand, are more than asleep.
00:51:53
Speaker
I mean, they're basically dead at this point because they are struggling with Jordan Love.
00:51:57
Speaker
And I got to say, we love it here at Making Waves.
00:52:01
Speaker
No apologies needed for that.
00:52:03
Speaker
Nope.
00:52:04
Speaker
But these teams are kind of asleep.
00:52:07
Speaker
They have been put under this hocus pocus curse, and they are waiting for a virgin to come around and light the black flame candle.
00:52:15
Speaker
And you know who I think that's going to be for the Rams?
00:52:18
Speaker
I think that's going to be Aaron Donald this week.
00:52:21
Speaker
I think he's going to feast on Jordan Love.
00:52:24
Speaker
As we saw, their offensive line is not strong.
00:52:29
Speaker
Aaron Donald, he's the virgin coming to light.
00:52:33
Speaker
Wake that candle, wake that team up, and they are going to be coming back to life this weekend.
00:52:39
Speaker
I've got the Rams.
00:52:40
Speaker
I've got them at eight.
00:52:41
Speaker
Okay, great.
00:52:43
Speaker
Yeah, that's interesting.
00:52:44
Speaker
Yes, that is part of the movie, if that's what you're wondering.
00:52:47
Speaker
I was going to say, man, I know Aaron has been married to his wife for quite some time.
00:52:52
Speaker
Hey, that doesn't mean anything.
00:52:55
Speaker
No, it doesn't.
00:52:56
Speaker
It doesn't at all.
00:52:58
Speaker
I just, yeah, that, you know what?
00:53:00
Speaker
I'm just going to leave it at- You're making assumptions about it.
00:53:03
Speaker
I'm just going to leave it at that.
00:53:05
Speaker
Isn't that crazy that it's a Disney movie and they're talking, it's hilarious every time we watch it about how he's this virgin lighting the candle and it's too good.
00:53:15
Speaker
It's really, really good.
00:53:16
Speaker
I watched that movie, the original.
00:53:17
Speaker
I also watched the new one a couple of weeks ago.
00:53:20
Speaker
And that is, you have to be a virgin to light the black candle.
00:53:23
Speaker
It has to be on Halloween night, aka last night, to get the, wait, don't tell me.
00:53:28
Speaker
It's the something sisters.
00:53:29
Speaker
I know this.
00:53:31
Speaker
What's it start with?
00:53:32
Speaker
Also an S. Sinister Sisters?
00:53:35
Speaker
No, what is it?
00:53:36
Speaker
Full of Sanders.
00:53:37
Speaker
Sanderson Sisters.
00:53:39
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:40
Speaker
So for any listeners, please don't light any candles on Halloween night.
00:53:47
Speaker
We don't want the Sanderson Sisters coming back.
00:53:49
Speaker
They're pretty good.
00:53:50
Speaker
Coming back to haunt us.
00:53:51
Speaker
That was a good one.
00:53:52
Speaker
I really liked how you did that.
00:53:54
Speaker
Thank you.
00:53:54
Speaker
Thank you.
00:53:55
Speaker
So anyway, I have the Rams.
00:53:56
Speaker
I have them at eight.
00:53:57
Speaker
Okay, I have the Rams.
00:53:59
Speaker
I had them at 10.
00:54:00
Speaker
So we're pretty close there.
00:54:01
Speaker
So I'm just going to leave it at that.
00:54:02
Speaker
That was a great, that was great analysis.
00:54:05
Speaker
And yeah, I'm really happy that the Packers are like the Sanderson sisters.
00:54:09
Speaker
And I hope nobody lights the Packers candle for many, many decades to come.
00:54:15
Speaker
You and me both.
00:54:17
Speaker
All right, moving on to the next game.
00:54:18
Speaker
We've got the Washington Commanders at New England Patriots.
00:54:23
Speaker
See, now I'm really looking at some of these things.
00:54:25
Speaker
It's like, was I half paying attention when I was making these comparisons with movies and these games?
00:54:30
Speaker
This one was another stretch, I'd say.
00:54:33
Speaker
Commanders, I got a lot of crap games in my bunch, didn't I?
00:54:36
Speaker
Yeah, you have some tough games.
00:54:39
Speaker
You have some tough games here.
00:54:41
Speaker
Man, I don't have a lot of...
00:54:43
Speaker
marquee matchups here, but I was the one that recommended Mac at the Thursday night.
00:54:47
Speaker
We go from there.
00:54:47
Speaker
So I know a couple that you have towards the end.
00:54:51
Speaker
You've got a few.
00:54:52
Speaker
I got some good ones at the end, but yeah, I got to look in the mirror and just make sure not to say Bloody Mary three times on that one.
00:54:57
Speaker
But so we got commanders, we got Patriots, and I looked at this game and the first thing I thought of, and I do not, contrary to popular belief in what Mac said at the start of this episode, I don't like gore.
00:55:08
Speaker
I don't like blood.
00:55:10
Speaker
I don't like violence in movies.
00:55:11
Speaker
I do like...
00:55:13
Speaker
edge of your seat, thriller, scare.
00:55:16
Speaker
I don't like gore.
00:55:17
Speaker
I don't like blood.
00:55:18
Speaker
But this movie that I'm comparing this game to, very gory, very bloody.
00:55:22
Speaker
I've never seen it.
00:55:23
Speaker
I just know the premise.
00:55:24
Speaker
And that's the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
00:55:27
Speaker
This movie is one of those movies.
00:55:29
Speaker
No, thank you.
00:55:30
Speaker
Yeah, no, thanks.
00:55:31
Speaker
This movie was based off a true story.
00:55:33
Speaker
But when producers say that, was it really based off a true story or did someone just, you know,
00:55:39
Speaker
kill someone with the chainsaw and they just made the movie.
00:55:41
Speaker
I don't know.
00:55:42
Speaker
I haven't spent the time to look into it, but apparently that movie was based on a true story or real life events.
00:55:49
Speaker
But now after what happened yesterday during the trade deadline, I think the Texas chainsaw massacre is really kind of like the spirit of the commanders right now with what they did to their defensive line.
00:56:02
Speaker
The commanders are not having that bad of a season.
00:56:05
Speaker
I don't really understand why,
00:56:07
Speaker
where the fricking fire was, but upper management decided to just blow up the bridge and they just all had chainsaws.
00:56:16
Speaker
They walked right in their locker room.
00:56:18
Speaker
They traded their best two D E's,
00:56:23
Speaker
See ya.
00:56:24
Speaker
See ya.
00:56:25
Speaker
And now they're looking at maybe zero wins the rest of the season.
00:56:29
Speaker
So Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the Commanders.
00:56:33
Speaker
I think this would have been a good game before yesterday, but, you know, no chase, no sweat, no problem for Mac and the Patriots.
00:56:41
Speaker
This game is in New England.
00:56:43
Speaker
Bill Belichick is an evil mastermind.
00:56:45
Speaker
I could have done something with that.
00:56:47
Speaker
Like, I could have done, like, Saw and said he was Jigsaw kind of in the back.
00:56:51
Speaker
Just do-do-do-do-do.
00:56:53
Speaker
Pulling the strings.
00:56:55
Speaker
But I went with the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
00:56:57
Speaker
So, yeah, I think the Patriots are going to win because of the massacre that happened in D.C.
00:57:01
Speaker
yesterday.
00:57:03
Speaker
So, yeah, that was a stretch, I know.
00:57:05
Speaker
Two in a row.
00:57:06
Speaker
No, no, it's good.
00:57:07
Speaker
It's good.
00:57:08
Speaker
Because of the massacre, I think the Patriots are going to really eat on the field on Sunday.
00:57:14
Speaker
I get them winning in Gillette.
00:57:16
Speaker
I got them at a confidence level of seven.
00:57:21
Speaker
Okay, well, first and foremost, I am going to take a chainsaw to my rankings here because I completely forgot about those trains that just happened.
00:57:32
Speaker
Even though we, like, talked about them, I completely blanked on the fact.
00:57:36
Speaker
I was going back on the fact that, like you said, the Commanders have been stringing together some wins.
00:57:40
Speaker
They've been having a pretty decent season.
00:57:42
Speaker
They did pretty good in both their games against the Eagles.
00:57:46
Speaker
Things were looking good.
00:57:47
Speaker
So I really need to revisit this game.
00:57:50
Speaker
No, no, you don't.
00:57:52
Speaker
And I may, but for now, with what I was going off of, this is also very far apart because I had the commanders at five.
00:58:02
Speaker
Mostly for that reason, because I feel like they have been doing very well.
00:58:06
Speaker
Or not very, but they've been doing pretty well.
00:58:09
Speaker
Sam Howell's been doing fine.
00:58:11
Speaker
And Brian Robinson in the backfield's been doing really well.
00:58:14
Speaker
They've been getting Jahan Dotson involved.
00:58:16
Speaker
Their defense has actually also been really solid.
00:58:18
Speaker
So I agree.
00:58:19
Speaker
It's kind of like I can't believe they made those big trades.
00:58:21
Speaker
They're kind of thrown in the towel here.
00:58:23
Speaker
Completely forgot about that.
00:58:25
Speaker
So I'm going to need to revisit that.
00:58:27
Speaker
I still don't know if I think the Patriots are going to win, though.
00:58:33
Speaker
I'm going to revisit this.
00:58:34
Speaker
We'll talk about this offline.
00:58:35
Speaker
But for now, that's what I have is the Commander's F5.
00:58:38
Speaker
Okay.
00:58:39
Speaker
Man, someone's not doing their research.
00:58:41
Speaker
Yeah, geez.
00:58:42
Speaker
First, you didn't know it was in Germany.
00:58:45
Speaker
Now I forgot about the trade, even though we literally talked about the trade.
00:58:50
Speaker
Yo, we got some cobwebs.
00:58:51
Speaker
It's Halloween.
00:58:52
Speaker
Hey, we're rusty.
00:58:53
Speaker
Yeah, I like that.
00:58:55
Speaker
Thank you.
00:58:55
Speaker
Cut us some slack.
00:58:56
Speaker
Yes, cut us some slack.
00:58:58
Speaker
We'll get back into rhythm here.
00:58:59
Speaker
Oh, I don't want to know what you're doing for the next game here.
00:59:01
Speaker
I just realized.
00:59:02
Speaker
Oh, I'm so excited for this next game.
00:59:04
Speaker
Okay.
00:59:05
Speaker
Next game, we have the Chicago Bears at New Orleans Saints.
00:59:11
Speaker
And if there's anything you'd like to know about the Chicago Bears right now.
00:59:17
Speaker
Why are you smiling so big, by the way?
00:59:18
Speaker
Why are you?
00:59:19
Speaker
Why do you look so happy?
00:59:21
Speaker
I was so excited putting this game together.
00:59:24
Speaker
And this I'm just trying to be really extra horrifying because of Halloween, Bob.
00:59:28
Speaker
This is not my personality or what I actually think about the Bears.
00:59:32
Speaker
Just for this game, you want to be extra horrifying?
00:59:34
Speaker
I just wanted to be really horrifying for this game.
00:59:37
Speaker
I can't wait to hear it.
00:59:38
Speaker
Specifically to my co-host.
00:59:39
Speaker
I really like to scare you, you know?
00:59:41
Speaker
So this is a good one for you.
00:59:43
Speaker
Something's never changed.
00:59:44
Speaker
But yes, continue.
00:59:44
Speaker
Sorry.
00:59:45
Speaker
So for this game, I just really looked at the teams we had here.
00:59:48
Speaker
And we've got the Chicago Bears.
00:59:49
Speaker
And we've got the New Orleans Saints.
00:59:52
Speaker
And honestly, if we're looking at the Chicago Bears, obviously Justin Fields got hurt.
00:59:57
Speaker
Well, not obviously, if you didn't know that.
00:59:58
Speaker
Justin Fields got hurt.
01:00:00
Speaker
And Tyson Badgent.
01:00:04
Speaker
Am I saying his name right?
01:00:05
Speaker
You still don't know his name, huh?
01:00:06
Speaker
No, I don't.
01:00:08
Speaker
It is Tyson Badgent, but say it with authority.
01:00:10
Speaker
He's a stud.
01:00:11
Speaker
Tyson, yeah.
01:00:12
Speaker
Tyson Badgent has been playing in his first game.
01:00:16
Speaker
Looked great.
01:00:17
Speaker
Came out.
01:00:18
Speaker
Once the team's had the opportunity to see how he plays, he did not so great.
01:00:24
Speaker
So right now the Chicago Bears are basically the undead.
01:00:28
Speaker
They're a bunch of zombies.
01:00:29
Speaker
They're the walking dead right now, walking around out there.
01:00:33
Speaker
I was trying to find a good Halloween movie about zombies, and I don't know if it's really a Halloween movie, but we're still going with the theme.
01:00:41
Speaker
This game for this weekend is Zombieland.
01:00:45
Speaker
And if there's anything you know about Zombieland, when you're walking around, it's this group of misfits coming together.
01:00:52
Speaker
They're walking around.
01:00:53
Speaker
There's all these zombies.
01:00:54
Speaker
Have you seen the movie Zombieland?
01:00:56
Speaker
No comment.
01:00:57
Speaker
Okay.
01:00:59
Speaker
There's these misfits.
01:01:00
Speaker
They come together.
01:01:01
Speaker
They're just trying to take on the undead, right?
01:01:03
Speaker
Like they've got their machine guns.
01:01:05
Speaker
They're out there fighting in the zombies are coming in droves and they're trying to take them out.
01:01:11
Speaker
And the bears are the undead.
01:01:13
Speaker
The Saints, on the other hand, kind of a group of misfits, right?
01:01:16
Speaker
We've got Derek Carr that got moved over there.
01:01:20
Speaker
He's been having ups and downs.
01:01:22
Speaker
But beyond that, we got Alvin Kamara back.
01:01:24
Speaker
He's been having a hit or miss season because he had a suspension, but looking pretty good.
01:01:28
Speaker
They're getting some new players up and involved.
01:01:31
Speaker
And overall, they have their defense there, which has been looking very solid most weeks and doing a good enough job to allow Derek Carr to do what he does, which is kind of, you know,
01:01:42
Speaker
game managed throughout but basically there's one big thing in zombie land that they talk about with zombies and that is the double tap and that's where you shoot the zombie twice and make sure they're dead i think this is a double tap on the chicago bears this weekend they're gonna lose this game unfortunately pow pow and i think they're dead for the rest of the season i mean they kind of already were but i think this is really gonna be the final nail in the coffin
01:02:10
Speaker
So that's why I have this zombie win game.
01:02:13
Speaker
And I have this game and I have the Saints at 11.
01:02:17
Speaker
Was the was the pow pow really necessary?
01:02:21
Speaker
Was the double tap really necessary about that?
01:02:23
Speaker
Was the comparing my boys to zombies truly, truly necessary?
01:02:28
Speaker
It just was.
01:02:29
Speaker
Yeah, it was.
01:02:30
Speaker
Well, you know what?
01:02:31
Speaker
This is the first ever game that we have exactly on that I'm not going to give a ding-dilling, ding-ding on.
01:02:36
Speaker
Oh, ding-dilling, ding-ding, ding-ding.
01:02:38
Speaker
And I have seen that movie, but I didn't want to give you anything to add into that little comparison.
01:02:43
Speaker
I didn't want to give you diddly squat.
01:02:45
Speaker
How was it though?
01:02:46
Speaker
That's pretty good.
01:02:47
Speaker
You know what?
01:02:48
Speaker
If it wasn't about my boys, I would have been singing your praises right now.
01:02:52
Speaker
But I'm going to bury that one and put it six feet under and pretend I never heard the pow pow.
01:02:58
Speaker
Oh, fair enough.
01:02:59
Speaker
Just like your boys season, buried six feet under.
01:03:03
Speaker
Well, I think we're going to have it.
01:03:04
Speaker
She's on a roll, folks.
01:03:05
Speaker
She's on a roll.
01:03:07
Speaker
And this is why I bought you a jersey because I gave you so much shit about the bears.
01:03:11
Speaker
I think you owe me at least two or three more jerseys after the pow pow.
01:03:14
Speaker
Oh, okay.
01:03:14
Speaker
Okay.
01:03:15
Speaker
Fair.
01:03:15
Speaker
And folks, unfortunately, I am sad to announce that we're going to have another hiatus after this episode, maybe three to six weeks.
01:03:23
Speaker
So my apologies for the tease coming back this week.
01:03:27
Speaker
But quickly moving on from that game.
01:03:30
Speaker
Okay.
01:03:30
Speaker
Fair enough.
01:03:31
Speaker
And pretending that never happened.
01:03:32
Speaker
Nicely done though.
01:03:33
Speaker
Is the Seahawks Ravens.
01:03:36
Speaker
And I don't think anything scarier than Edgar Allen Poe and a Raven flying around in October.
01:03:43
Speaker
And speaking of scary things, the Ravens have been really scary.
01:03:47
Speaker
The Seahawks have also been really scary.
01:03:50
Speaker
This might be on paper, other than the Dolphins Chiefs, the best game on the docket this upcoming weekend.
01:03:57
Speaker
Two 6-2 teams, two birds, and I think it's going to be a really good game.
01:04:03
Speaker
So when I was thinking about this game,
01:04:06
Speaker
I was thinking about things that scare me a lot.
01:04:09
Speaker
And there's a lot of things that scare me.
01:04:10
Speaker
The dark, monsters, spiders, snakes.
01:04:17
Speaker
As a kid, I was scared of being kidnapped.
01:04:21
Speaker
Never happened.
01:04:22
Speaker
Thank goodness.
01:04:23
Speaker
Thank goodness.
01:04:24
Speaker
But on top of the list and being in a cornfield late at night with my best friend and her
01:04:31
Speaker
pouncing out at me last second these are all things that scare me obviously i joke about the dark i'm not scared of the dark just a little bit but the thing on top of the list and those who truly know me know this is my biggest fear mac would you uh want to take it away with the thing that scares me the most the thing that scares you the most i i really don't know that i could pin you don't know not traveling i don't know
01:05:01
Speaker
I mean, that's between that and I mean, that and that and death.
01:05:06
Speaker
Don't even get me started.
01:05:08
Speaker
But no, no.
01:05:11
Speaker
I'd be like a worldly thing.
01:05:13
Speaker
Think of things that are just really scary.
01:05:17
Speaker
That was on the list that I had that I had listed things that scare me.
01:05:21
Speaker
Not the number one clowns.
01:05:24
Speaker
Oh, OK.
01:05:25
Speaker
I just really... Really?
01:05:27
Speaker
Well, now you do.
01:05:27
Speaker
Man, you learn something new about me every day.
01:05:29
Speaker
There we go.
01:05:29
Speaker
Good to know.
01:05:30
Speaker
I'm just making a little note here.
01:05:33
Speaker
Perfect.
01:05:33
Speaker
I'm glad I said that.
01:05:34
Speaker
Do you remember like the mascot thing when you were forcing that mascot at the game to come up and say happy birthday to me?
01:05:40
Speaker
I just don't like... I don't like masks.
01:05:42
Speaker
I don't like...
01:05:44
Speaker
Things that are dressed up.
01:05:45
Speaker
You don't know who's behind.
01:05:46
Speaker
And yeah, Clowns is very high up on the list.
01:05:49
Speaker
Obviously, number one.
01:05:50
Speaker
And Lamar Jackson, and unfortunately for Mac, speaking of scary things, oh my God, that 35-6 game last weekend.
01:05:58
Speaker
Yeah, that was freaking scary.
01:06:00
Speaker
And Lamar, it's not just the Lions.
01:06:01
Speaker
Lamar has been doing that every single week for the last four or five weeks.
01:06:06
Speaker
And he's been bringing back memories of him circa 2019.
01:06:10
Speaker
So I thought, you know what?
01:06:14
Speaker
Lamar right now is like Pennywise.
01:06:17
Speaker
For a couple years there, he was just lurking in the sewers, looking for his little kid to walk by, grab the balloon, grab the kid, bring him down into the gutter world.
01:06:29
Speaker
And you know what?
01:06:30
Speaker
Pennywise, he's up.
01:06:34
Speaker
He is full force again.
01:06:36
Speaker
He's lurking in your neighborhood.
01:06:38
Speaker
Hide your kids.
01:06:39
Speaker
Hide your wife.
01:06:40
Speaker
Pennywise is back.
01:06:41
Speaker
Lamar is back.
01:06:43
Speaker
MVP Lamar is finally arrived.
01:06:46
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I'm sure Baltimore is happy.
01:06:48
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I'm sure obviously Harbaugh is happy.
01:06:50
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And yeah, Ravens fans are very happy.
01:06:52
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So yeah.
01:06:53
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Lamar playing unbelievable.
01:06:55
Speaker
I think he's going to continue that this weekend against the Seahawks.
01:06:59
Speaker
I think Pennywise is going to continue eating defenses like he has the last few weeks.
01:07:04
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Seahawks, yeah.
01:07:05
Speaker
I mean, they've been playing awesome, but they're about to run into a buzzsaw.
01:07:08
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And I think being in Baltimore, Ravens playing like Super Bowl contenders.
01:07:14
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And I'm giving the Seahawks a little bit of credit here because they also have six and two team.
01:07:17
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But I got the Ravens, Pennywise and Lamar at three on Sunday.
01:07:23
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Oh my God.
01:07:26
Speaker
Oh my God.
01:07:26
Speaker
Are you very high on the Ravens?
01:07:29
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Oh God.
01:07:30
Speaker
Yes.
01:07:32
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Oh my God.
01:07:33
Speaker
I'm so high on the Ravens.
01:07:34
Speaker
How high are we talking?
01:07:36
Speaker
Pretty high.
01:07:38
Speaker
Like double digit high?
01:07:40
Speaker
Yes.
01:07:41
Speaker
God, we're in trouble.
01:07:42
Speaker
Let me tell you why.
01:07:43
Speaker
Let me tell you why.
01:07:45
Speaker
Kind of a similar reasoning for that I gave for the Dolphins and Chiefs.
01:07:51
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is that, yes, the Seahawks do have some good wins under their belt.
01:07:54
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Don't get me wrong.
01:07:55
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Obviously, they beat the Lions week two.
01:07:57
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That was really unfortunate.
01:08:00
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But they only beat us by one score, I will say.
01:08:02
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The other games that they've won were against the Giants, the Cardinals, the Rams, who have been up and down all over the place, the Panthers.
01:08:11
Speaker
And they just lost to the Browns.
01:08:13
Speaker
And they also lost to the Bengals earlier in the season.
01:08:16
Speaker
So, again, when they've played teams with stout defenses, or I'm sorry, they just barely beat the Browns.
01:08:22
Speaker
So that is a good win.
01:08:24
Speaker
I got to give them that because, unfortunately, we needed the Browns to win that game.
01:08:28
Speaker
But beyond that, there's just not been a ton of really good wins, in my opinion.
01:08:33
Speaker
Obviously, there have been some, and I think they've earned some caliber or degree of...
01:08:40
Speaker
of like some credit there.
01:08:42
Speaker
And I don't think that should be dismissed, but I do think Gino's been a little bit more hobbled than he was last year.
01:08:49
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He's been, people are picking up on what he's putting down.
01:08:52
Speaker
And ultimately I just think the Ravens, I mean, clearly, and I could be definitely a bit biased considering they absolutely put the whopping down on my boys, but watching that game start to finish up,
01:09:04
Speaker
The Ravens, I mean, their defense is stout.
01:09:08
Speaker
I didn't realize it was one of the best defenses in the league.
01:09:11
Speaker
Then you add on top of it an MVP caliber in Lamar Jackson offense.
01:09:16
Speaker
This is just an incredible team.
01:09:18
Speaker
And I think it's hard-pressed that they're going to be beat, especially in Baltimore.
01:09:23
Speaker
So I'm sorry, but I have this game at 10.
01:09:28
Speaker
Man, well, we were going for scary.

Humorous Holiday Advertisements

01:09:31
Speaker
I think we got it because we're going to be talking for hours after this.
01:09:35
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Yeah, this is going to be a lot.
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This is going to be a lot.
01:09:39
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Speaking of cobwebs, man, apparently we're just on the wavelength.
01:09:44
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We've got a lot of cobwebs on it.
01:09:46
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We're not quite on the same wavelength right now, but you made a good point earlier this week.
01:09:50
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I have been solid at choosing the teams in the 50-50 games, but you've been solid at choosing the confidence level, so maybe we'll have to take that into account this week.
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We'll see.
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We'll take a look at it.
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Spooky.
01:10:04
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Spooky.
01:10:05
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Oh, man.
01:10:05
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This is a good episode.
01:10:07
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I always loved it in the Halloween episode.
01:10:09
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It's great.
01:10:09
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And I'm specifically really glad that it's after Halloween because it's November 1st and I'm having you talk about a holiday other than Christmas.
01:10:16
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So...
01:10:17
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Oh, it's okay.
01:10:18
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Next episode into the rest of the 2023 calendar.
01:10:23
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We'll be chatting about all things Christmas.
01:10:25
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So you enjoy this for the next 20, 30 minutes.
01:10:28
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It better not be starting next week.
01:10:29
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There's still, hey, there's still another holiday.
01:10:33
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Yeah, but the real holiday is, you know, coming up at the end of next month.
01:10:38
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Gasp.
01:10:40
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He did not just do that.
01:10:41
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He did not just say that.
01:10:42
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He didn't just go there.
01:10:43
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Let me go back to the Zombieland game and just double tap it a little more.
01:10:47
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No more pow-pows here, please.
01:10:50
Speaker
All right.
01:10:50
Speaker
Looking at the next game.
01:10:53
Speaker
Actually, we're going to be a little bit spooky here on a Halloween episode.
01:10:58
Speaker
A little extra spooky.
01:10:59
Speaker
And we're just going to surprise Bob with the first advertisement of this episode.
01:11:07
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What you got, Bob?
01:11:08
Speaker
Is that allowed to do that right now?
01:11:10
Speaker
Oh, it is.
01:11:11
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It is now.
01:11:12
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I wasn't prepared for that at all.
01:11:14
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I usually need at least a couple of minutes to think about that.
01:11:16
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Okay.
01:11:17
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Well.
01:11:17
Speaker
What's scarier, clowns or getting surprised with an advertisement?
01:11:22
Speaker
Easily getting surprised with an advertisement.
01:11:24
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Or not traveling.
01:11:26
Speaker
Definitely not traveling.
01:11:27
Speaker
Followed by death.
01:11:28
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Okay.
01:11:29
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Oh, man here.
01:11:31
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Okay, this spooky Halloween theme making waves episode, pre-Christmas episode, is brought to you by... One night I went wandering out in the woods and found I had wandered much more than I should.
01:11:53
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Witches!
01:11:54
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Goblins!
01:11:55
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Goblins!
01:11:56
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I have no idea where I'm going.
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Go!
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01:12:04
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01:12:09
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Lock it in.
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Candy.
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01:12:20
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Please, please take it.
01:12:22
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This Make You Waves episode is brought to you by Candy Halloween Candy.
01:12:26
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Half off after Halloween.
01:12:28
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Thank you.
01:12:30
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Okay, I take it back.
01:12:30
Speaker
This is way scarier than not traveling.
01:12:34
Speaker
What just happened?
01:12:36
Speaker
I don't know.
01:12:36
Speaker
Oh, what just happened?
01:12:38
Speaker
Did you black out?
01:12:40
Speaker
Yes.
01:12:40
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A couple more minutes and I absolutely would have had that prepared.
01:12:44
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Okay.
01:12:45
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Lock it in.
01:12:47
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I got to give the people what they want.
01:12:50
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this episode is brought to you by... Oh, you're going again?
01:12:52
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I have to.
01:12:53
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Okay.
01:12:53
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I have to.
01:12:54
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I cannot end on that.
01:12:55
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I'll be thinking about it.
01:12:56
Speaker
I'll be staring at the ceiling tonight thinking about that.
01:12:58
Speaker
My hands are so sweaty right now.
01:12:59
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Mom's spaghetti.
01:13:01
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Oh, okay.
01:13:02
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This Halloween episode is brought to you by Candy.
01:13:05
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Go there.
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Grab your candy.
01:13:12
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It's still yummy, but much cheaper.
01:13:14
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Thanks, Candy.
01:13:16
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God.
01:13:17
Speaker
That was better to help you sleep tonight?
01:13:19
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Yes, at least I got an advertisement.
01:13:22
Speaker
Why was I singing?
01:13:25
Speaker
Is that a song that you had started with?
01:13:27
Speaker
Yes.
01:13:27
Speaker
Is that an actual song?
01:13:28
Speaker
Yes.
01:13:29
Speaker
I learned that in elementary school.
01:13:30
Speaker
It's the only Halloween song I know.
01:13:32
Speaker
And I was in my head, in my head, I was going to do the whole thing.
01:13:36
Speaker
But then about 10 seconds and I'm like, this is like a 60 second song.
01:13:39
Speaker
I cannot sing for 60 seconds.
01:13:41
Speaker
And then I just started saying monsters and I started saying candy.
01:13:44
Speaker
Goblins, candy.
01:13:46
Speaker
My brain just could not attach that to like a physical item.
01:13:52
Speaker
Oh, okay.
01:13:52
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Well, that's, speaking of bottom of the ocean, that's a new, that's a new low.
01:13:57
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It's going to be really easy for you to beat that this episode.
01:13:59
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So congratulations.
01:14:02
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And I may have prepped something in advance.
01:14:05
Speaker
Wink, wink.
01:14:05
Speaker
Oh, great.
01:14:06
Speaker
I'm legitimately sweating through my shirt after that.

NFL Teams and Halloween Movie Comparisons

01:14:10
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All right, well, I'll take the mic back here as we move into the Tampa Bay Bucs at Houston Texans.
01:14:19
Speaker
And this game reminded me of a movie that I actually just watched over the weekend.
01:14:24
Speaker
So something really fun that Nick and I like to do is we like to do outdoor movie nights.
01:14:28
Speaker
We have a little projector, light a fire.
01:14:31
Speaker
We made some homemade pizza.
01:14:33
Speaker
Wow.
01:14:33
Speaker
Got some popcorn, some candy, as Bob had mentioned.
01:14:37
Speaker
Wow.
01:14:38
Speaker
And we like to watch movies outside.
01:14:41
Speaker
And this movie that we watched is called Practical Magic.
01:14:44
Speaker
Have you ever seen that movie?
01:14:47
Speaker
And he actually just walked away.
01:14:49
Speaker
So I will keep talking.
01:14:52
Speaker
If you have never seen this movie before, basically it's these sisters and they're witches and they get cursed and can never fall in love because if they fall in love, the person that they fall in love with dies.
01:15:09
Speaker
And, okay, wait, he's back.
01:15:11
Speaker
So we'll ask him.
01:15:12
Speaker
I was talking to you and then I looked up and you were gone.
01:15:16
Speaker
Oh, you didn't see my chat?
01:15:17
Speaker
I said I was sweaty.
01:15:18
Speaker
I needed to get some water.
01:15:19
Speaker
No.
01:15:20
Speaker
Have you ever heard of the movie Practical Magic?
01:15:24
Speaker
You know what?
01:15:25
Speaker
I had not until about two hours ago when we decided we were going to do movies.
01:15:28
Speaker
And I was looking at Halloween movies and that came up on every list.
01:15:31
Speaker
And I was like, what the heck is this movie?
01:15:32
Speaker
Okay, yeah.
01:15:33
Speaker
So we watched it over the weekend and I was just telling the listeners, but I'll fill you in as well.
01:15:37
Speaker
Basically, these two sisters and they're witches and they're cursed.
01:15:41
Speaker
There's this family curse so that they can never fall in love.
01:15:44
Speaker
And if they fall in love, the person they fall in love with dies by like some tragic, crazy event.
01:15:49
Speaker
So they can never fall in love.
01:15:50
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It's this curse on them.
01:15:52
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And the reason I compared that to this game is because I think I'm going to be honest when Tom Brady left the Bucs, I think the Bucs and everybody else thought they were cursed.
01:16:02
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I think everybody thought they were never going to fall in love again because Tom Brady left them.
01:16:09
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They missed out on their opportunities to play.
01:16:13
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extend their Super Bowl winning ways and they lost their one true love.
01:16:19
Speaker
And he didn't die, thank goodness.
01:16:20
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No RIP, but they were cursed, or so they thought.
01:16:24
Speaker
Come to find out, their one true love is, lo and behold, Baker Mayfield.
01:16:29
Speaker
And the Tampa Bay Bucs have been doing really, really well.
01:16:34
Speaker
I think they're going to have no problem taking care of a divisional opponent in the Houston Texans this week.
01:16:41
Speaker
And I know that the Texans, divisional opponent, right?
01:16:46
Speaker
Texans are not in the Bucs division, but it's just AFC.
01:16:48
Speaker
Oh, like I said.
01:16:49
Speaker
Oh, right, right, right.
01:16:49
Speaker
The Bucs are with the Saints and the Panthers and stuff.
01:16:52
Speaker
Yes, they're both in the South, just AFC and NFC.
01:16:54
Speaker
Yes, okay.
01:16:54
Speaker
I see where you're going there.
01:16:55
Speaker
Yes, you're right.
01:16:57
Speaker
As soon as I said it, I was like, is that right?
01:17:00
Speaker
It's okay.
01:17:00
Speaker
It's Halloween.
01:17:00
Speaker
Anyways, even more reason that I think they're going to beat the Texans.
01:17:04
Speaker
Texans have shown some flashes of good.
01:17:06
Speaker
CJ Stroud's been doing all right.
01:17:08
Speaker
Unfortunately, the past couple weeks, though, I feel like that's kind of gone a little bit more downhill for the Texans.
01:17:14
Speaker
And the Bucs defense is just looking stout, looking good.
01:17:18
Speaker
And so I've got the Bucs, and I've got them actually at 13.
01:17:22
Speaker
Oh, my God.
01:17:27
Speaker
If we gave each other a dollar for every game we were more than six or seven apart, we'd both have multiple dollars.
01:17:35
Speaker
Yeah, I had the Bucs at six.
01:17:38
Speaker
Six?
01:17:39
Speaker
Oh gosh, seven off?
01:17:40
Speaker
Seven off.
01:17:41
Speaker
So we're struggling a little bit here with our confidence relevant to each other.
01:17:47
Speaker
But you know what?
01:17:48
Speaker
I guess this just gives us a reason to be on the phone tomorrow for about two hours trying to figure out who we're going with.
01:17:53
Speaker
Oh, yes.
01:17:54
Speaker
Also, side note, it's going to be a long conversation tomorrow.
01:17:57
Speaker
So deadline or not for you and your part-time job, the one that doesn't really matter as much as this, obviously, we're going to have a lot of discussions tomorrow.
01:18:05
Speaker
So I hope those deadlines can wait because...
01:18:08
Speaker
Making Waves has some big time discussions to be had.
01:18:12
Speaker
We sure do.
01:18:13
Speaker
And Nick actually just texted me and she said she could hear me giving the podcast talking about Practical Magic.
01:18:18
Speaker
And in the movie, they dance around because they have midnight margaritas.
01:18:22
Speaker
I think we're going to need at least five midnight margaritas to get through this week.
01:18:26
Speaker
I think we definitely need a lot of midnight margaritas.
01:18:29
Speaker
I'll have two right now, please.
01:18:31
Speaker
And wow.
01:18:32
Speaker
Shouts out to Nick being on the other side of the wall and still giving us relevant information that we need.
01:18:38
Speaker
Shout out, Nick.
01:18:39
Speaker
Don't want to spoil anything.
01:18:40
Speaker
Really hope to have you on the podcast soon.
01:18:42
Speaker
Wink, wink.
01:18:44
Speaker
Also for people.
01:18:46
Speaker
Listening in, obviously, our wave riders, obviously, they can't see us.
01:18:49
Speaker
I need to give them a little insight into what Mac is doing as she is going through her comparisons from the games to the movie.
01:18:57
Speaker
She literally looks like a rapper.
01:18:59
Speaker
You're getting so into it.
01:19:00
Speaker
You're, like, moving your hands, and it looks like you're, like, this, this, this, this.
01:19:05
Speaker
Can't fall in love.
01:19:06
Speaker
And I'm, like, oh, my God.
01:19:07
Speaker
She is, like, putting down some serious freaking beats every single time.
01:19:11
Speaker
So this is โ€“
01:19:13
Speaker
Hey, this is serious, okay?
01:19:15
Speaker
I'm trying to convince you of my comparison, so I'm just really getting into it.
01:19:19
Speaker
She's getting invested, and she's getting animated, and it's just, yeah, I mean, it's doubly as entertaining for me, so I appreciate it.
01:19:27
Speaker
I just wanted to let the fans know that this is no joke.
01:19:29
Speaker
We're taking this seriously.
01:19:31
Speaker
Yes.
01:19:31
Speaker
Thanks, Bob.
01:19:32
Speaker
I appreciate you saying that.
01:19:33
Speaker
You're welcome.
01:19:35
Speaker
All right.
01:19:35
Speaker
Moving into the Sunday 4 o'clock slate of games.
01:19:38
Speaker
First up is your game, the Indianapolis Colts at Carolina Panthers.
01:19:43
Speaker
Great.
01:19:44
Speaker
I have gone back and forth on this game a couple of times.
01:19:47
Speaker
Not on who I think is going to win.
01:19:48
Speaker
That is a very easy decision for me.
01:19:51
Speaker
I'm sure it is for you as well.
01:19:52
Speaker
It's which movie to compare this game to, because this is kind of another like Frankenstein type game.
01:19:58
Speaker
Panthers, yuck, Colts, lately, yuck.
01:20:01
Speaker
So I...
01:20:03
Speaker
This isn't going to make a lot of sense.
01:20:05
Speaker
Again, I'm struggling here, but I compared this game to a classic, an American classic, The Children of the Corn.
01:20:13
Speaker
It's just a really good movie about these kids that live inside the corn that kill all the adults.
01:20:19
Speaker
Jeez Louise.
01:20:20
Speaker
I know.
01:20:21
Speaker
And they live inside corn, like cornfields.
01:20:24
Speaker
They live in the cornfield.
01:20:25
Speaker
So obviously they lived in like a community, kind of like Allendale, Michigan.
01:20:28
Speaker
Shout out Lakers.
01:20:29
Speaker
Laker up, anchor down.
01:20:31
Speaker
It was like a community.
01:20:32
Speaker
I've never seen this movie.
01:20:33
Speaker
I looked it up on Wikipedia today.
01:20:34
Speaker
Just fair.
01:20:35
Speaker
Put that out there as well.
01:20:37
Speaker
But they lived in a community surrounded by cornfields.
01:20:41
Speaker
And then they started killing all the adults because like they didn't like rules anymore and they wanted to like, you know, make their own decisions.
01:20:47
Speaker
And then the kids moved their little colony without parents out into the corn.
01:20:51
Speaker
So then when some like outsider, like a police officer or someone from another town came into their city to see what the heck was going on, the kids lured them out into the corn and then ate them.
01:21:02
Speaker
Yeah.
01:21:03
Speaker
So I'm sure you and Nick would love to watch this on a date night in the backyard.
01:21:06
Speaker
Just
01:21:07
Speaker
Yeah, that sounds like a really fun one.
01:21:09
Speaker
Just, you know, well, you're out there in the dark outside.
01:21:12
Speaker
Great.
01:21:12
Speaker
Exactly.
01:21:14
Speaker
Exactly.
01:21:14
Speaker
So the reason I thought of this game and children of the corn is because there's a lot of rookies in this game.
01:21:19
Speaker
Obviously, Anthony, Anthony Richardson, quarterback, the Colts out for the season, which is a bummer.
01:21:23
Speaker
But we got Bryce Young on the Panthers and there's just a lot of young kids on both of these teams.
01:21:31
Speaker
And yeah, I don't really know the comparison from that to Children of the Corn.
01:21:36
Speaker
I just think there's a lot of young, talented players.
01:21:40
Speaker
You give me quite the look on this, trying to figure out where I'm going.
01:21:44
Speaker
I'm also trying to figure out where I'm going.
01:21:45
Speaker
But just a lot of young talent.
01:21:48
Speaker
And ultimately, I think the kids are going to eat the adults in this game.
01:21:53
Speaker
The Colts are a little younger than the Panthers.
01:21:55
Speaker
You know, Panthers got Thielen, who's at the end of his career, kind of making some noise.
01:22:00
Speaker
They've got, who's the running back from the Eagles that they just got last year?
01:22:03
Speaker
Miles Sanders.
01:22:04
Speaker
Miles Sanders, another veteran at the end of his career.
01:22:07
Speaker
They got Devin Funchess, another veteran at the end of his career.
01:22:10
Speaker
So yeah, I mean, the Panthers have put together a lot of vets that are, you know,
01:22:14
Speaker
keeping them in games for a while, but the Colts, they have the youth movement with Pittman Richardson, obviously on the IL, a lot of others, um, Zach boss.
01:22:24
Speaker
And I think in this game, the kids are going to overtake the veterans and win pretty handedly and then start the, uh, start their colony in the Indianapolis cornfields.
01:22:34
Speaker
So with that, my confidence is very high.
01:22:39
Speaker
I got the Colts for a Baker's dozen at 13.
01:22:41
Speaker
Okay.
01:22:42
Speaker
Okay.
01:22:45
Speaker
I am just yippy-apping here.
01:22:47
Speaker
That was something there.
01:22:50
Speaker
And I'm just going to say that I also have the Colts at nine, and I don't really have anything else to add to your comparison.
01:22:56
Speaker
Thank you.
01:22:57
Speaker
Children of the Corn, give it a watch.
01:23:00
Speaker
All right.
01:23:00
Speaker
Sounds good.
01:23:02
Speaker
Looking ahead to the next game, we have the New York football giants at Las Vegas Raiders.
01:23:10
Speaker
Raiders.
01:23:13
Speaker
And this is one that I first and foremost would be willing to maybe move a little higher depending on what we discuss today.
01:23:21
Speaker
I made these before the announcements of benching Garoppolo, the firing of the coach and the general manager and all the different Devontae Adams requests for the trade.
01:23:33
Speaker
I made this beforehand.
01:23:35
Speaker
So I'd be willing to consider moving a little bit higher.
01:23:37
Speaker
I think we agree on this game.
01:23:40
Speaker
Great.
01:23:41
Speaker
Is that correct?
01:23:42
Speaker
Do you recall?
01:23:43
Speaker
Oh, I thought you meant confidence-wise.
01:23:44
Speaker
Yeah, on the actual game, we do agree on who we have winning.
01:23:48
Speaker
Yes, I would be willing to look at this one a little bit higher.
01:23:50
Speaker
But to compare, of course, to a game, let me loosen up the shoulders so I can get some movement in this.
01:23:56
Speaker
Yeah, we'll see it.
01:23:58
Speaker
Again, kind of going back.
01:23:59
Speaker
Clearly, I like Disney Halloween movies because I don't like scary, scary movies.
01:24:04
Speaker
And Disney Halloween movies are something I can watch and not be too, too spooked out.
01:24:09
Speaker
I'm sure you've heard of them, seen them.
01:24:11
Speaker
But the Halloween Town series within this movie.
01:24:16
Speaker
Oh, Chef's Kiss.
01:24:18
Speaker
They're the best.
01:24:19
Speaker
Phenomenal.
01:24:19
Speaker
Marnie, you know, the grandma, all the things.
01:24:22
Speaker
Shout out, Marnie.
01:24:23
Speaker
I'm not talking about Halloween Town 1.
01:24:24
Speaker
I'm talking about Halloween Town 2, Calabar's Revenge.
01:24:28
Speaker
And just close your eyes for a minute.
01:24:30
Speaker
Let's bring you back to when you were a child watching Disney movies at 8 o'clock and the kids are jumping around.
01:24:37
Speaker
It's time for a Disney Channel movie.
01:24:40
Speaker
Whatever the lyrics are.
01:24:42
Speaker
And Halloween Town 2 is coming on.
01:24:45
Speaker
As your eyes are closed, if you can picture the scene where Calabar does his curse on Halloween Town and everybody turns gray.
01:24:54
Speaker
And everybody is just kind of walking around like this and they're all gray and they've got nothing to live for.
01:25:03
Speaker
No, never mind.
01:25:04
Speaker
Sorry.
01:25:04
Speaker
Oh, my God.
01:25:05
Speaker
That got dark fast.
01:25:06
Speaker
Jeez.
01:25:06
Speaker
Sorry, that was too much.
01:25:07
Speaker
That was too much.
01:25:09
Speaker
Basically, they're all just boring and everybody's the same and they're gray.
01:25:14
Speaker
This game is a gray game for me.
01:25:16
Speaker
We've got the Giants.
01:25:18
Speaker
Sorry, Eli.
01:25:19
Speaker
A little meh.
01:25:20
Speaker
We've got the Raiders.
01:25:22
Speaker
Extra now.
01:25:22
Speaker
Meh.
01:25:23
Speaker
And just some things are, you know, this is just a gray game here.
01:25:27
Speaker
I think the Giants absolutely are going to win.
01:25:29
Speaker
Obviously, we saw the Raiders.
01:25:31
Speaker
They got beat up.
01:25:32
Speaker
They're making some changes throughout their entire lineup.
01:25:36
Speaker
No problem moving this higher, like I said.
01:25:38
Speaker
But as of right now, I've got the Giants.
01:25:40
Speaker
And I kept them somewhat low just because they're still questioning about their quarterback.
01:25:46
Speaker
Is it going to be Daniel Jones?
01:25:47
Speaker
Is it going to be Tyrod Taylor?
01:25:48
Speaker
This is also in Las Vegas.
01:25:51
Speaker
But either way, this is a gray, kind of boring game.
01:25:54
Speaker
I don't think anybody's super stoked to watch this game.
01:25:56
Speaker
Sorry, Yoders, except for Eli and Amy and Ivy.
01:26:00
Speaker
But I'm going with the Giants, and I've got them at three.
01:26:04
Speaker
Oh, okay.
01:26:05
Speaker
Also, side note, excuse my French, this was going to be explicit eventually.
01:26:10
Speaker
Calibar's a real bitch.
01:26:11
Speaker
Calibar is a real bitch.
01:26:14
Speaker
Dude, that was so annoying when he put that curse on the entire Halloween town and took all the color away.
01:26:22
Speaker
And also, us as viewers, that sucked having to watch gray and black and white for a while.
01:26:27
Speaker
How did people used to do that?
01:26:29
Speaker
I don't know.
01:26:30
Speaker
Shouts out to all the older generation listening in.
01:26:35
Speaker
Yeah, we give you credit.
01:26:36
Speaker
That must have been tough.
01:26:38
Speaker
We respect you, Boomers.
01:26:40
Speaker
We respect you.
01:26:41
Speaker
To a certain extent.
01:26:43
Speaker
To a certain extent, you're the real one.
01:26:45
Speaker
But yeah, had to say Calabar.
01:26:47
Speaker
He's a real biatch.
01:26:49
Speaker
He's a real biatch.
01:26:50
Speaker
But yeah, I agree that the Giants are going to win this game.
01:26:54
Speaker
I'm a little bit more confident.
01:26:55
Speaker
And I know you said you're willing to go up a little bit.
01:26:57
Speaker
I had them at five, so...
01:27:00
Speaker
Not too much higher.
01:27:01
Speaker
And I think that speaks volumes of how much we think of the, the giants, which unfortunately for the owners is not a lot.
01:27:10
Speaker
Raiders are in a bad, bad state, but yeah, that's only two off.
01:27:14
Speaker
So we're, we're getting there.
01:27:15
Speaker
Okie dokie.
01:27:17
Speaker
All right.
01:27:17
Speaker
Next game is Sunday night game.
01:27:20
Speaker
Probably the opposite, the complete 180 opposite of a gray game.
01:27:25
Speaker
The Dallas Cowboys at Philadelphia Eagles.
01:27:27
Speaker
And I know Giants fans really don't want to hear that.
01:27:29
Speaker
But sorry.
01:27:31
Speaker
Once again, we're just spitting truths.
01:27:33
Speaker
We speak truth here at Making Waves.
01:27:35
Speaker
And if you don't like it, GTFO.
01:27:37
Speaker
Just kidding.
01:27:38
Speaker
We need all the viewers we can get to pay our bills.
01:27:40
Speaker
But...
01:27:41
Speaker
Yeah, finally, I have a pretty exciting game here.
01:27:43
Speaker
We got the Cowboys.
01:27:45
Speaker
We got the Eagles.
01:27:46
Speaker
This game is absolutely broadcast in color.
01:27:49
Speaker
There's a lot of talent here.
01:27:51
Speaker
And when I thought of this game, it was very, very clear that I had to compare it to The Exorcist.
01:27:59
Speaker
It's an absolute... Thank you, thank you.
01:28:01
Speaker
Ooh, thank you.
01:28:04
Speaker
spooky and when it comes to scary movies i think the supernatural stuff is about as scary as it gets clowns like i said is right up there but when it comes to spirits and like the demonic side of things those movies can get pretty pretty scary and this was like the og like demon like
01:28:28
Speaker
taking over a human body, scary movie.
01:28:31
Speaker
We've all seen the head spinning around.
01:28:34
Speaker
And if you've seen it, you've had nightmares about it.
01:28:37
Speaker
I know I have.
01:28:38
Speaker
If you say you haven't, you're lying.
01:28:40
Speaker
So with this game, the reason that I said it is like the exorcist is because the Cowboys,
01:28:46
Speaker
The last couple of years have really been trying to exercise their demons when it comes to those Philadelphia Eagles.
01:28:53
Speaker
Shouts out Big T. We know you're listening in.
01:28:56
Speaker
Your Eagles are looking real good.
01:28:58
Speaker
This game's in Philadelphia.
01:29:01
Speaker
Philadelphia.
01:29:02
Speaker
Philadelphia.
01:29:04
Speaker
And I mean, yeah, that's got to be a top five hardest place to play in the NFL.
01:29:11
Speaker
Their fans are brutal.
01:29:14
Speaker
And yeah, I mean, the Cowboys just have kind of been acting like the little brother to the Eagles for the last handful of years.
01:29:22
Speaker
And it seems like the Cowboys are always winning 10 games, 11 games, 12 games, having really like respectable seasons, making the playoffs, but they just cannot beat the Philadelphia Eagles.
01:29:33
Speaker
They cannot rid themselves of that dark spirit.
01:29:37
Speaker
They cannot, you know, just...
01:29:40
Speaker
get it out of their system.
01:29:41
Speaker
And that's, that's beating the Eagles.
01:29:43
Speaker
I don't think that's going to change in this game on Sunday afternoon.
01:29:46
Speaker
I think, unfortunately, the exorcism is going to be failed.
01:29:49
Speaker
The little girl in the movie will not be able to go on and the spirit will continue to spin her head in a 360 degree circle.
01:29:57
Speaker
So yeah, that's why I got the Eagles winning at home in this interdivisional matchup.
01:30:03
Speaker
And I got them winning pretty high at eight.
01:30:08
Speaker
Oh, shoot.
01:30:10
Speaker
Oh, gosh.
01:30:11
Speaker
I think I just had something exercise out of me with that one.
01:30:15
Speaker
There's a spirit that came out.
01:30:17
Speaker
Oh, my gosh.
01:30:17
Speaker
You need to go take a step away again?
01:30:20
Speaker
That's crazy.
01:30:20
Speaker
Wow.
01:30:21
Speaker
Eight.
01:30:21
Speaker
Okay.
01:30:22
Speaker
I am way more 50-50 on this game.
01:30:25
Speaker
Also, slight caveat.
01:30:27
Speaker
The Eagles and the Cowboys actually split their season last year.
01:30:32
Speaker
I think the last game might have been one of the last weeks, though.
01:30:35
Speaker
So maybe the Eagles were benching people.
01:30:36
Speaker
Honestly, I couldn't tell you.
01:30:39
Speaker
But I think actually the Cowboys have a hold over the Eagles in terms of forever standings.
01:30:45
Speaker
So just like a small rebuttal to your note there.
01:30:50
Speaker
Thanks for that, Nugget.
01:30:52
Speaker
Yeah, no problem.
01:30:54
Speaker
I will say, though, ultimately, the Cowboys have been, I feel like, a little bit more up and down.
01:31:00
Speaker
I don't know.
01:31:00
Speaker
I went back and forth a lot on this game.
01:31:02
Speaker
And I'm going to be honest, I almost chose the Cowboys for this game.
01:31:07
Speaker
Reason being, because it is interdivisional, obviously this is something that I think
01:31:10
Speaker
These teams come out and they play their absolute hardest.
01:31:13
Speaker
The thing that did pull me in the Eagles' favor, again, another nugget, is that they are currently undefeated at home.
01:31:19
Speaker
Like you said, it's a hard place to play.
01:31:22
Speaker
I am hopeful they will get the job done, but definitely not as confident as you there that they will.
01:31:28
Speaker
I had them at one.
01:31:30
Speaker
Oh, Nellie, another game seven or more apart.
01:31:34
Speaker
Oh, baby.
01:31:35
Speaker
Indeed.
01:31:35
Speaker
Yes.
01:31:36
Speaker
We need to exercise these.
01:31:38
Speaker
We got to exercise the demons for sure.
01:31:41
Speaker
I mean, yeah, we got to do something.
01:31:43
Speaker
Oh, my gosh.
01:31:44
Speaker
Okay.
01:31:44
Speaker
Well, two more games to go.
01:31:46
Speaker
We will look ahead to Sunday night at 8.20 p.m.
01:31:50
Speaker
We have the Buffalo Bills at Cincinnati Bengals.

Bills vs. Bengals: The Purge Metaphor

01:31:55
Speaker
And they really saved some good matchups here for the end of the week.
01:31:59
Speaker
This is a good one.
01:32:00
Speaker
This is a good game in my opinion.
01:32:02
Speaker
And I think actually one that we chose separately on, if I recall.
01:32:06
Speaker
Correct.
01:32:06
Speaker
Yep.
01:32:07
Speaker
One of three.
01:32:09
Speaker
So for me, this game, as I was looking through it, and I haven't seen this movie, so bear with me, but I know the premise, I believe, is The Purge is what I compared this game to.
01:32:20
Speaker
So The Purge, please correct me if I'm wrong.
01:32:23
Speaker
Have you seen this movie?
01:32:24
Speaker
I literally watched it about a week and a half ago.
01:32:26
Speaker
So yeah.
01:32:27
Speaker
Oh, Lord.
01:32:27
Speaker
So basically the whole premise, right, is that there's a night where there's no rules and people are just like mass chaos.
01:32:34
Speaker
They could kill people.
01:32:34
Speaker
They could do whatever.
01:32:35
Speaker
And there's no repercussions, right?
01:32:38
Speaker
Correct.
01:32:38
Speaker
One night a year to avoid further violence and destruction in the country.
01:32:43
Speaker
Okay.
01:32:44
Speaker
But basically, it's just a bunch of people fighting to the death, essentially, right?
01:32:48
Speaker
Basically, yeah.
01:32:49
Speaker
They're stalking each other and killing people and et cetera, et cetera.
01:32:52
Speaker
To me, this game is going to be an all-out battle, and these two teams are fighting to the death right now.
01:32:57
Speaker
The Cincinnati Bengals came out with a slow, sluggish start.
01:33:02
Speaker
But they've been starting to string some wins together one week after another.
01:33:05
Speaker
And hey, don't look now.
01:33:07
Speaker
They might kind of creep up a little bit if they continue to win.
01:33:10
Speaker
Buffalo Bills, ups and downs.
01:33:12
Speaker
They've won some.
01:33:13
Speaker
They've lost some.
01:33:14
Speaker
Again, they're really kind of fighting to the death here, trying to keep their elite status at the top of their division and trying to get top of the AFC.
01:33:23
Speaker
Ultimately, the way this shook out for me is that I feel like the Bills have been doing really well, but I would say if you're looking overall, maybe a slight dip has been occurring in their past couple of weeks.
01:33:38
Speaker
We saw them lose, I believe it was to the Commanders a few weeks ago.
01:33:43
Speaker
It was definitely someone.
01:33:45
Speaker
I don't know if it was the Commanders.
01:33:46
Speaker
I'll look right now.
01:33:48
Speaker
They had a tough loss a few weeks ago, a very surprising loss.
01:33:52
Speaker
Patriots.
01:33:53
Speaker
Oh, it was the Patriots.
01:33:54
Speaker
That's right.
01:33:55
Speaker
Which again, I guess it's a battle for New York.
01:33:57
Speaker
So we can't really put too much on there, but either way,
01:34:01
Speaker
I don't know.
01:34:01
Speaker
The Bills, they have ups and downs.
01:34:03
Speaker
And the Bengals, on the other side, I'm all about momentum.
01:34:06
Speaker
Their trajectory has been kind of going in the upward fashion.
01:34:10
Speaker
They've been getting Jamar Chase.
01:34:11
Speaker
Joe Burrow looks healthy again.
01:34:13
Speaker
I know he was struggling with that calf injury.
01:34:15
Speaker
And it is in Cincinnati.
01:34:17
Speaker
So that's what led me to inch my way closer to this game, fighting to the death, the purge.
01:34:24
Speaker
I think the Cincinnati Bengals are going to come out on top in this one with a win.
01:34:29
Speaker
And the Buffalo Bills, who?
01:34:31
Speaker
Dead.
01:34:32
Speaker
Wow.
01:34:32
Speaker
So you gave them that and you gave the bears the pow pow.
01:34:35
Speaker
Yeah.
01:34:35
Speaker
Yep.
01:34:36
Speaker
Fair.
01:34:37
Speaker
Fair.
01:34:37
Speaker
Lots of death, but Oh, sorry.
01:34:39
Speaker
I did say I have the bangles at four.
01:34:42
Speaker
Okay.
01:34:43
Speaker
Well that's a semi ding, ding, ding, but I have the other side for, which makes that eight apart.
01:34:49
Speaker
Eight apart.
01:34:50
Speaker
Yes.
01:34:52
Speaker
And correct me if I'm wrong before the season started, did you not have the bangles winning at all?
01:34:56
Speaker
And I had the bills winning at all.
01:34:57
Speaker
If I remember correctly.
01:34:59
Speaker
I believe that is correct, yes.
01:35:01
Speaker
So this is kind of a battle of like best in the AFC.
01:35:05
Speaker
Obviously, Dolphins and Chiefs are there as well.
01:35:06
Speaker
So, I mean, kind of like before the season, we thought those four teams were going to be the best between Chiefs, Dolphins, Bills, Bengals.
01:35:14
Speaker
Obviously, me and you had these two teams going all the way.
01:35:18
Speaker
So this is going to be very interesting to see.
01:35:20
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I revoke that statement.
01:35:23
Speaker
I did almost immediately, but I still think they're kind of doing good.
01:35:27
Speaker
They are looking a lot better.
01:35:28
Speaker
I'll give you that.
01:35:29
Speaker
So there was one main reason that I think the bills are going to win this game.
01:35:33
Speaker
And it's not really an on the field reason.
01:35:37
Speaker
I'm sure everybody remembers what happened last year with the Mar Hamlin and it happened on a Sunday night in Cincinnati.
01:35:45
Speaker
So I just feel like it's going to be a very emotional game for a lot of different reasons.
01:35:51
Speaker
Bears played in L.A.
01:35:52
Speaker
Got to, you know, throw the Bears out whenever I get a chance to talk about them.
01:35:56
Speaker
But Bears were playing last time.
01:35:58
Speaker
To double tap them or...
01:36:01
Speaker
Not to double tap, but thank you so much for saying that again.
01:36:04
Speaker
Hey, classic misunderstanding.
01:36:06
Speaker
I totally see why I thought I was going that way.
01:36:07
Speaker
But in LA on Sunday Night Football, at the end of the game, they always talk about the next week's Sunday night matchup.
01:36:14
Speaker
So they were obviously talking about Bills and Bengals, and they were both talking about how emotional it's going to be, how many tears there's going to be, how many, you know, just really...
01:36:24
Speaker
tough memories.
01:36:25
Speaker
And obviously with DeMar being okay, thank the Lord, he will be there on the sideline.
01:36:30
Speaker
And I just think that's going to be something that in a really close game, the Bills are going to be able to rally around the fact that their teammate is okay.
01:36:38
Speaker
And that is in the past.
01:36:40
Speaker
And
01:36:42
Speaker
I think they're going to be stronger on Sunday night because of it.
01:36:45
Speaker
So in a game that I think both teams, like I said, are so evenly matched on top of the fact that the bills defense has been playing pretty good.
01:36:55
Speaker
And historically they've been doing well against the bangles in the regular season, the last couple of years.
01:37:00
Speaker
That's why I got the bills winning in Cincinnati.
01:37:03
Speaker
I'm,
01:37:05
Speaker
At a, like I said, confidence level of four.
01:37:07
Speaker
So yeah, that's going to be an interesting one.
01:37:09
Speaker
Wow.
01:37:10
Speaker
No, that's a really good point.
01:37:11
Speaker
I honestly did not even consider any of that off the field stuff.
01:37:14
Speaker
So, but I actually do think it matters and makes a difference in these close games.
01:37:19
Speaker
So that's a good point.
01:37:20
Speaker
And a very opposite description than the purge as I'm talking about death and all of these things.
01:37:28
Speaker
Max talking about that.
01:37:29
Speaker
Bob comes out with the lighthearted, you know, not lighthearted because it was very heavy, but the like, you know, miracle story.
01:37:37
Speaker
The happy ending and a life being saved rather than Max talking about, you know, people fighting to the death.
01:37:41
Speaker
Are there any lives that get saved in the perch?
01:37:45
Speaker
There are some people that save lives, but mostly you see a lot of killing and really, really negative things.
01:37:50
Speaker
But Max still stuck on Halloween.
01:37:53
Speaker
Obviously, I'm looking forward to the really happy holidays coming up, you know, more specifically Christmas.
01:37:59
Speaker
So we'll get we'll get more into that in the next couple of weeks for sure.
01:38:02
Speaker
Oh, my goodness.
01:38:03
Speaker
OK, well, we will discuss that one.
01:38:08
Speaker
offline.
01:38:09
Speaker
So moving,

Thanksgiving-themed Content and Conclusion

01:38:10
Speaker
moving ahead.
01:38:10
Speaker
We have a one game left Monday night at 8 15 PM.
01:38:14
Speaker
The Los Angeles chargers at New York jets.
01:38:18
Speaker
Okay, great.
01:38:20
Speaker
Yes.
01:38:20
Speaker
This game is interesting.
01:38:23
Speaker
Chargers obviously playing on Sunday night football to Monday night.
01:38:26
Speaker
So back-to-back primetime games.
01:38:28
Speaker
Oh, and you know what, Mac, what have you ever heard of?
01:38:31
Speaker
Like when someone gets a trick or a treat, you know, when the kids say trick or treat, have you ever heard of that?
01:38:37
Speaker
Yeah, I have heard of trick-or-treating.
01:38:39
Speaker
Okay, good.
01:38:39
Speaker
I didn't know.
01:38:40
Speaker
I know a lot of people have not heard about that.
01:38:42
Speaker
Have you ever been at someone's front door with your little pillowcase and said trick-or-treat, and instead of getting a treat, you got a trick?
01:38:50
Speaker
No, I cannot say that I've ever gotten a trick instead of a treat.
01:38:53
Speaker
Well, you just got tricked because I did not forget about the second advertisement.
01:38:58
Speaker
I saw a man clicking up at me kind of like, oh, maybe he forgot.
01:39:01
Speaker
I didn't.
01:39:02
Speaker
I just wanted to wait until you opened up your little pillowcase and then hit you with a little trick.
01:39:07
Speaker
So, Mac, without further ado, I know it's going to be a really, really tough act to follow with mine.
01:39:13
Speaker
It is.
01:39:14
Speaker
It's going to be really difficult.
01:39:15
Speaker
Can you hit us with the second ad of the week, please?
01:39:18
Speaker
Sure.
01:39:18
Speaker
Happy to.
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This Making Waves NFL Confidence Pool Podcast episode is brought to you by Thanksgiving.
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was the night after Halloween and all throughout town.
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Christmas music rang out.
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What a horrifying sound.
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Some people, they danced full of joy and jubilee.
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It's Christmas time, they said.
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Let's break out the tree.
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Now, wait just a minute.
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Stop and think twice.
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There's one holiday first before we talk about these stirring mice.
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In the spirit of Halloween, be careful or you'll be hexed if you fail to remember that Thanksgiving is next.
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What is happening on this podcast?
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And what was that an ad for?
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It was for Thanksgiving.
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What a dire holiday.
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You did say that.
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Oh, my God.
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Why did I feel like I was just in a Dr. Seuss book?
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My goodness.
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I was actually going to be so sad if you accidentally missed the opportunity to give me the ad because I was so excited.
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I worked on that at lunch today.
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So in reality, that was actually kind of a treat that I remembered.
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Oh, Mac.
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Well, I got to say that was very impressive.
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Obviously, you did that right off the top of your dome.
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Oh, yeah.
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Didn't write it down or anything.
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And those rhymes, next and hexed, that had to have taken you a minute.
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It did.
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Oh, yeah.
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A lot of thinking going on up here.
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I mean, if you're not listening to Making Waves, you're really missing out at this point.
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What are you doing?
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Between the two ads, I don't think we've ever been more opposite sides of the spectrum with our two ads than we were on this episode.
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We went from monsters, candy, ghouls, and that was it, to a full-blown five-stanza poem.
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That was...
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That was really great, McKenz.
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That was... Oh, my gosh.
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I'll give you a little clap on that.
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And just because that was so great, I'll go ahead and not talk about Christmas for one more episode.
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Perfect.
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We'll meet in the middle.
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Perfect.
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Nicely done.
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Nicely done.
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That is a big-time treat for our Wave Riders.
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Can't wait to hear some thoughts on that.
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Okay.
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How am I going to lock it in after that?
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So we got Chargers.
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We got Jets.
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And yeah, I was looking at this game and it just, it was hard not to think of one of the all time greatest horror movies of our generation.
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Here's Johnny.
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Nope.
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Doesn't ring a bell.
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I don't watch horror movies.
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You've never seen The Shining?
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No.
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You've never seen the scene where he was literally putting it.
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No, but I have heard of that.
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Like when he was putting an ax through the bathroom door and then Jack Nicklaus's face was through the hole and he said, here's Johnny.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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Well, I said Jack Nicklaus.
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That's a golfer.
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Jack Nicholson.
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My apologies.
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Okay.
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For this film, here's Herbert.
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I was waiting for some reaction.
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I honestly think that Herbert is finally figuring it out a little bit.
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He had a couple of weeks where people were like, all right, he's lost his touch.
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The chargers, they're not going to make the playoffs.
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What a disappointment.
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I think Herbert, especially what I saw, unfortunately, against my boys on Sunday night, he started the game against my boys like 18 for 18, looking so good.
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And I think he's going to continue putting the hacksaw or the axe, whatever you want to call it, through the bathroom door, a.k.a.
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these defenses.
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And the Jets do have a really stout defense.
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New York is, once again, not an easy place to play.
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But I think Herbert's going to act like Jack in The Shining when he was trying to murder his wife and son.
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And in this instance, it's going to be the Jets defense.
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He's going to beat them.
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The Jets have had a little like rebirth the last couple of weeks.
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And people are like, oh, is this like a playoff team?
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I don't think so.
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And that's why I got the Chargers at 12, which is pretty high.
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Holy smokies.
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Holy smokey.
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I almost picked the Jets in this game.
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We are in big trouble.
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We are in so much trouble.
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Oh my gosh.
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Okay.
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I mean, I ultimately did go with the Chargers on this one, but the reason I almost went with the Jets is because like you said, they kind of have had a bit of a rebirth lately and they've been winning like some decent games.
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And I just got to say,
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Talk about the most horrifying thing.
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If they had Aaron Rodgers, that team, I think, would be the ultimate horror movie for any opposing team.
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Great call out.
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I think they'd be like a Super Bowl lock right now.
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Absolutely.
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That'd be scurry.
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Absolutely.
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I'd be freaking shaking in my boots.
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But I don't know.
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I feel like this game is in New York.
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They've got, like you said, kind of a little resurgence.
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Ultimately, I couldn't trust Zach Wilson.
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I just couldn't.
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But the Chargers...
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I don't know.
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They've been doing good, but their defense has such big holes in it, in my opinion, that allow other teams to get points up on the board.
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But ultimately, when I was thinking about it, I was like, can Zach Wilson really take advantage of that?
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I don't know.
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This is hard.
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This is definitely going to be a battle of defensive will.
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But ultimately, I went with the Chargers because offensively, I mean, they just have a better quarterback, if we're being honest.
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Yep.
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I went with them super low, but I did go with them, but I went with them at two.
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Oh my God.
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10 apart.
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This is, we also have the other one that we chose the Falcons and the Vikings 10 apart.
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And we chose separate.
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Oh no, that one's 12 apart.
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Cause we chose separately on that one.
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That's 14 apart.
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Cause I had two, you had 12.
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Oh yeah.
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I put 12, not 10.
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So we have three games different.
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We've got multiple double digit differences.
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So yeah, this is going to be a crazy week.
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Do I have to let you know right now whether or not I'm going to use the double down?
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Or can that be something that I say out there?
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I think you did say it had to be done on the podcast, but I don't know yet if I'm going to use mine.
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So we can discuss it tomorrow.
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Well, it sounds like if you don't know right now, in that case, then you're not using it.
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Sorry, you're not using yours?
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I hereby... Okay, we're different on... You know what?
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Starting next week... Keep in mind, I might change the commanders because I forgot about the trade.
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True.
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You did say that.
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Okay, I'm not going to use it.
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Sorry.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Me either.
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Okay.
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So folks, appreciate you listening in.
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I'm glad we were able to keep this right around an hour on our first Welcome Back episode.
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We're just about 47 minutes north of that, but we tried our best.
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And we're just so excited to get back with y'all and just chat about some football and some Halloween themes that, you know, can you really blame us?
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We had to make up for some missed time and we did that tenfold here for you tonight.
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Thanks for joining us.
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Thanks for waiting for us to return.
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And yeah, we'll be excited to be back again next week.
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We will see you in a week.
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Peace.
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Peace.