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NFL 2023 - Preseason Predictions
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It has been 200 days since the last (real) NFL game. We know you've missed it. We know you've missed us. But the wait is over because the 2023 NFL season is upon us! Join Mack and Bob as they break down their preseason predictions for the upcoming 2023-2024 season.
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Introduction and Podcast Season Kickoff
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School's in session.
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September is here.
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The leaves are a-changing.
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And football is back, baby.
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Let's dive right in.
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Welcome back to Making Waves, an NFL confidence pool podcast.
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I'm your host, Mac.
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And I'm your host, Bob.
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And it is just around the corner.
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The 2023-2024 NFL season is upon us.
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We have been gone for, I don't know, 100 plus days.
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And Bob and I are itching for some football.
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Absolutely itching for it.
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Season three, right?
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Season three for us?
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Season three of Making Waves.
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Season three of Making Waves.
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You know what they say about third dates and third seasons.
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If it goes good, you're in it for the long haul.
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They do say that, and it's so true.
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So this is a huge, huge season for us because if this goes well, Making Waves is in it for the long haul.
NFC North Predictions
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I have a feeling it's going to go really well.
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So I like the sounds of that.
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I totally agree.
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I could not be more excited for the upcoming season.
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You know, we've been following all the trades offseason.
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We've been following the draft.
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We've been following all the roster moves.
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And obviously, we've been both following our favorite teams this year.
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And I'm going to be honest.
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I think they both have somewhat of a shot this year at at least improving, looking pretty good.
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I'm excited.
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Our boys potentially could be front runners in the NFC North, which we'll get into a little bit later as we break down all of our preseason predictions for each different division.
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But I just want to check in real quick, Bob, before we kick this off and get started.
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What are you most looking forward to this NFL season?
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That's a great question.
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Let's keep it legitimate.
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Let's not talk about a Bears Super Bowl win or anything like that.
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No, you don't need to remind me that.
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Always legitimate.
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I forgot.
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You're the host that does not head in the clouds.
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You're the very down-to-earth host.
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I forgot.
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Sorry.
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Correct.
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Yeah.
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We must have been gone for a long time because you forgot a lot.
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But yeah, so what am I most excited about so much about
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I am excited for my boys to improve.
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I think that is very realistic that we're going to be better than three and 14.
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A lot better.
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I hope so.
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For your sake.
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Thank you.
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Appreciate that.
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A lot better, but we'll get into that.
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And yeah, I'm just really excited for...
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I just, I feel like hope it just springs eternal at the start of every season.
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Fantasy football's back.
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Our pick-em's back.
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Obviously, I'm so stoked for making waves to be back on air and just to watch live meaningful football.
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Yeah, just couldn't be more excited about it.
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How about you?
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I agree.
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No, that's great.
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That's great sentiment there.
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I just feel like as football is nearing and as we've been more involved, I feel like in the weeds of football, it has taken on a bit of a new meaning for me.
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I feel like I used to watch, you know, just the Lions, but now I've been trying to follow other teams and just see how they progress.
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So as it approaches, I certainly get very excited for long Sundays of watching multiple different games, settling in, getting my, you know, wings and your appetizers ready for the football season.
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And yeah, it's just exciting.
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And altogether, I just feel like it's going to be a good season.
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There are a lot of really good teams out there right now.
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Yes, there are.
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My boys included in the running.
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My boys included as well.
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Oh, oh, oh, what the heck?
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Our boys included.
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Thank you.
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And some good teams that I think are going to be very fun to watch.
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Agreed.
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So, yeah, just with football around the corner, I am all together just excited for the feeling that it brings.
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And, of course, the podcast, keeping that going for the third year in a row.
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So, looking forward to that.
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Third year running.
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Yes, absolutely.
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Great sentiment from you as well.
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And just to give the wave riders a quick little insight, me and Mac were texted earlier this week.
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We're really excited to come up with some new challenges, some new things to, I don't know, like your punishments for bets that we do.
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So definitely stay tuned for those that we're going to keep them spicy this year.
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Hopefully not literally, but we're going to keep them spicy for sure.
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I'm thinking literally, I've got a few in my mind that are literal.
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So gosh, well, in that case, maybe making waves is not going to make it through season three.
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But yeah, we're so excited to keep things exciting, keep things different.
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And yeah, just could not be more pumped for the 2023-24 season.
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I agree.
NFL Division Winners and Key Players
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I totally agree.
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We're trying to shake it up a little bit this year.
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We're certainly looking to try and host a couple other additional guest hosts throughout the season.
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So if you're listening right now and you're interested in joining us one week, just shoot us a text.
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We're down to have anybody join any week.
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I promise, as Bob always says, we'll keep it under an hour.
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We'll keep it under an hour.
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We'll try our best.
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Maddie and Vince looking at you.
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Paige looking at you.
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Possibly Big T.
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Eli, looking at you.
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Eli, James, looking at you.
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Colorado Demon, come on.
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All of our number one fans.
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Nick, obviously, because she always listens, I know.
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Jeno, Carson, come on.
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Come on down, everybody.
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Come on down, everybody.
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We'll have you any week.
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You can pick.
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Alan, Blake, everybody.
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So yeah, we'd love some guest hosts.
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And yeah, like Max said, we'll try to keep it under an hour.
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Keyword, try.
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Try, yeah.
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And also there's a good chance we just named all 10 of our listeners.
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Maybe 10 out of like a thousand.
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Oh, right, right, right, right.
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I was actually looking and we have some international listeners.
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I saw you can see on Zencaster, shouts out Zencaster, where people listen in and we've got some people in like Norway that listen.
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So, hey, Norway.
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Wow.
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Norway shouts out if you want to be on the on the pod.
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Be willing eight Instagram.
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Send me a DM and happy to discuss.
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All right.
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Well, I don't know what kind of teams they're rooting for, so hopefully we don't crush their dreams when we talk about team rankings today.
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But I don't know about you, Bob.
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I kind of think we should just dive right in.
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What do you say?
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I see what you did there, and I agree.
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Let's just splash right in.
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All right.
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It's all right.
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We'll get better as the season goes on.
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We're rusty.
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We're rusty.
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Exactly.
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What can you say?
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Exactly.
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Well, we are going to kick things off with the AFC, and we're going to start with the AFC North.
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Okay.
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That's a pretty good division.
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We've got a lot of – I don't know.
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I was a little nervous making a lot of these rankings for all of these different divisions.
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Agreed.
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There are just some good teams in the NFL, which make for some very exciting football.
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We've got electric teams, I would say, too.
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A lot of star studded teams, star studded players that I think are going to really make a splash this year.
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Oh my gosh.
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You're on point.
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You're not rusty.
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What the hell?
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I'm not rusty.
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I've been practicing in the mirror.
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Well, you know,
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Geez, well, I guess apparently I need to be pricing the movie before next week.
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I had to show you up a little bit.
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Yeah, well, thanks for letting me know you weren't going to be prepared.
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I guess one of us is not prepared.
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Hey, I wasn't too prepared.
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All I really have is my list.
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But we could talk through what we know in terms of off-season moves, off-season trades, any draft pickups, studs that we want to talk about.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But all in all, yeah, let's kick it off with the AFC North, Bob.
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Do you want to go through your 4, 3, 2, and 1 rankings?
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Yes.
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And then I will touch base on what I've got as well.
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Perfect.
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Yeah, I was going to ask if you wanted to start at 4 and go up to 1, and we're right on the same wavelength.
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So, perfect.
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So, starting off with team number 4.
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Right on the same wavelength.
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Oh, man.
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She really did practice in the mirror.
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You did.
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That was yours.
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I didn't catch it.
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No, I meant to be that.
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I did practice.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay.
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So team number four, this one was the only easy one for me personally.
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I'm assuming that you're going to have the same, but assuming makes an ass out of you and me.
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So I don't want to assume.
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Oh, explicit already.
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Eight minutes in.
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Oh, here we go.
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Explicit.
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Jeez.
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So in the cellar, AFC North, this team had a lot of problems last year.
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They don't really have the it factor.
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Their quarterback is black.
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He's also just a very hateable guy for a lot of reasons.
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And I just really, I've done a lot of mock drafts with my co-host here.
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Done a couple of real drafts for fantasy.
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And I don't know.
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how many of this team's players I've drafted.
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They have one player that I would want, but other than that, they're kind of, they're kind of barren.
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So all that to be said, I have the Browns finishing in last place and I had a pretty easy time putting them in fourth.
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Oh, do I?
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Okay.
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No, yeah, we can, we can do that as well.
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Yeah.
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So for fourth, I think that's a great idea.
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We'll just bounce back and forth here.
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It is interesting.
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I also had the Browns in fourth, but I would say I don't know that I necessarily had an easy time with it.
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I was very back and forth between the Browns and the Steelers as a close.
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Apologies.
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Spoiler alert.
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For fourth there.
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And the reason being is because, yes, last year they were kind of a blah team.
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However, I feel like they had a full year now with he who shall not be named, but I'll name him anyway for our listeners, Deshaun Watson, who is the guy Bob is referring to as a not so great guy.
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But they've now had a full year, a full off season with him in practice.
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They will have him from the jump starting this year.
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They did not last year due to his suspension.
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I don't know.
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I could actually see them not getting fourth in this division.
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I had a hard time putting them any higher just because of, you know, some stuff that we've discussed.
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But yeah, I actually did have a tough time with this one, but I agree.
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Ultimately, I went with the Browns.
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Okay.
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So we're one for one.
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We both have the Browns in last place.
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And then I want to wager a bet.
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I would like to bet you $100 that I know who you're going to have in third place in the AFC North.
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Yep, so third place AFC North Cincinnati Bengals.
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Yes, exactly what I expected.
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Yes.
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Send that Venmo my way.
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Yeah, sure.
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Send it right away.
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Yeah, obviously I already kind of hinted at it.
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I have the Steelers for third in the AFC North.
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I do think some of their guys are going to take a take a jump.
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Kenny Smallhand's picket, you know, might take a jump in his sophomore year.
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They've got George Pickens, who I think will see a big rise out of this year as well.
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Najee Harris has been pretty consistent for them in the backfield.
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Ultimately, I think they're going to do okay.
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They also have a somewhat easy schedule.
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One of the easier ones, I would say.
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So I think they could pull out third here, but I don't know that they're going to be a star-studded team.
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I'm just betting on Mike Tomlin never having a losing record in any of his coaching seasons.
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So I'm sure that will continue here.
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Nice nugget.
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Wow.
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First of the season.
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Oh, nom, nom, nom.
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We got them nuggets.
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Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.
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We back with them nuggets, baby.
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Oh, I love it.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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Nothing.
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Not a big splash by them.
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I'm keeping them at third.
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Okay.
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I agree.
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You hit the nail on the head there.
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I also think the Steelers are going to get third.
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For time's sake, I know it's going to be super late in Norway when this hits the air.
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So I want to be cognizant of their time.
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Cognizant, really good word.
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But yeah, I agree.
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Bob is back with the big vocab.
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Absolutely.
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I've been practicing.
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Even though it's the same words every time.
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No, all different.
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I've been practicing hard.
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People have been in the gym.
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People have been in the library.
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I've been practicing the vocab.
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I've been having the Merriam-Webster and I've been studying.
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So beware for that.
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But yeah, I got Celis third as well.
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I agree.
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I think the picket to Pickens connection will be pretty good.
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I think Naj is a pretty reliable running back.
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And obviously they got one of the best coaches in the NFL, but
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Um, the star factor is a little lacking.
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So I also have Steelers in third.
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All right.
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I like it.
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You want to just snake it back.
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Why don't you give me your second and obviously it will reveal your first.
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So you can go ahead and talk about both of those if you'd like.
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Yeah, I'll do second.
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I'll let you do the first.
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Um, cause I have a feeling we'll be the same here, but I don't want to assume, as I said, it's worth it.
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But Ravens, I don't know why I just said it like that.
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I was going to build up.
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He's coming right out with it.
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He said, I'm not wasting any more time.
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I don't know why I just did that.
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So Ravens, spoiler alert, is the team that I have in seconds.
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I do think they're going to be much improved.
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I think they're going to be a playoff team as well.
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So I think they're going to snag a wild card spot in the AFC and Lamar.
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The number one thing for him is like staying healthy.
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I feel like he always is getting banged up.
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I feel like it's been a lot of years since he's had a full year under center without being injured.
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He was on my fantasy team last year and it really screwed me.
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So I'm going to be a little bit more cautious.
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Good word this year with Lamar.
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Yeah.
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Cautious is a good word, but very good word.
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he he needs to stay healthy jk dobbins also has been uh bit by the injury bug as well they do have some good receivers i like bateman i like zay flowers my co-host drafted him a lot in our mock draft so i think she likes him as well but oh yeah absolutely i uh don't think i didn't notice that one but yeah he's a whole commit hey that was a secret
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Lamar, Lamar's got some good weapons.
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He's got some good pieces around him.
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I feel like Baltimore is one of those like grimy defenses.
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That's always just like in your grill, like always just like just a sloppy defense that just goes after the ball.
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My boy Roquan Smith, their linebacker.
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And they just, they always are like a ball hawking defense.
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So I think they're going to be pretty solid on that side of the ball as well.
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So I think, um,
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In a lot of divisions, they would maybe come first, but the Bengals are really freaking good.
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So that's why I have the Ravens.
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Yeah.
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Rearing up the second place spot in that division.
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Okay.
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So obviously then you have the Bengals for first.
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Do you want to touch on that or do you want me to give my second and first?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, well, I just already, I did the analysis on the Ravens.
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So I'm hoping that you have Ravens second, but we'll keep the snake going.
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I do have the Ravens second.
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I'll just put it out there just to, you know, not...
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not bury the lead, but yes, I do have the Ravens second as well.
00:15:29
Speaker
I think you made some really great points, so I won't add too much to that.
00:15:33
Speaker
I think they could certainly be on the cusp for playoff contention later on down the line, especially if Lamar does stay healthy.
00:15:40
Speaker
We haven't seen a full, healthy Lamar in, I feel like, a while, so it'll be exciting if he can stay healthy and that team can get going again.
00:15:49
Speaker
But ultimately, we do have overall first
00:15:53
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the team that I think is just going to be continuing to stay hot, the Cincinnati Bengals, Joe Burrow.
00:16:00
Speaker
I feel like he is arguably one of the best young quarterbacks in the league right now.
00:16:04
Speaker
He has been consistent in getting that team far in the playoffs in multiple years in a row.
00:16:11
Speaker
So I just feel like that's going to continue.
00:16:14
Speaker
The Bengals, I don't see them slowing up too much as they head into this year.
00:16:20
Speaker
I would have to agree with my co-host on that one.
00:16:22
Speaker
I have the Bengals very comfortably winning that division.
00:16:26
Speaker
I have the records on the right, and I don't want to spoil anything because we're not doing records, but I have them winning by a couple of games.
00:16:32
Speaker
Sorry, Baltimore.
00:16:33
Speaker
Sorry, Edgar Allen Poe.
00:16:35
Speaker
Right back on it.
00:16:36
Speaker
But as Max said, Joey Kuhl has had two seasons.
00:16:40
Speaker
Obviously, Super Bowl runner-up, AFC runner-up.
00:16:44
Speaker
So that's a pretty good start to a career.
00:16:46
Speaker
His receivers are only going to get better.
00:16:49
Speaker
I think Mixon's going to keep getting better.
00:16:50
Speaker
He's got a lot of weapons and that defense, they kind of stocked up in the off season as well.
00:16:55
Speaker
So I think the Bengals are going to be right back to where they expect to be in January and,
00:17:00
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don't want to spoil anything, but we'll see if we agree that they will be making a little deep run again.
00:17:06
Speaker
So TBD.
00:17:08
Speaker
We will.
00:17:08
Speaker
We will see if we agree on that.
00:17:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:17:11
Speaker
I mean, ultimately we both put them first over here.
00:17:14
Speaker
I feel like we would both, both agree that, I mean, they're a top five in the entire NFL.
00:17:19
Speaker
In my opinion, I didn't say that.
00:17:21
Speaker
Oh, okay.
00:17:22
Speaker
Well, do you agree?
00:17:24
Speaker
I agree.
00:17:25
Speaker
Yes.
00:17:25
Speaker
Okay.
00:17:26
Speaker
All right.
00:17:27
Speaker
We agree there.
00:17:29
Speaker
But yeah, they're just a hot team and I think they're going to take it.
00:17:32
Speaker
No problem.
00:17:33
Speaker
Agreed.
00:17:33
Speaker
Yep.
00:17:34
Speaker
Bengals, good.
00:17:35
Speaker
Browns, not so good.
00:17:37
Speaker
So yeah, one division in, four for four.
00:17:39
Speaker
Look at us.
00:17:40
Speaker
Here we go.
00:17:41
Speaker
All right.
00:17:41
Speaker
Let's see if we can carry that on down to the dirtiest South.
00:17:45
Speaker
In the AFC South, not as much of, I feel like, well, I guess, I don't know.
00:17:53
Speaker
There were some teams in the North that were contenders, but
00:17:57
Speaker
I feel like the South has some potential here, but definitely not as much as other divisions within the league.
00:18:05
Speaker
So I will just kick it off here with the AFC South fourth place.
00:18:10
Speaker
Can I say something real quick?
00:18:11
Speaker
Sure.
00:18:12
Speaker
I never interrupt you during the podcast, so I apologize.
00:18:14
Speaker
Oh, never, never.
00:18:15
Speaker
This is new.
00:18:16
Speaker
Wow.
00:18:16
Speaker
Third year, really switching things up.
00:18:18
Speaker
Oh my gosh, I got to chill.
00:18:19
Speaker
I know this never happened, so I apologize.
00:18:21
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My prediction is we're going to have at least three of these different.
00:18:24
Speaker
I just wanted to throw that out there.
00:18:25
Speaker
And now let's continue on.
00:18:27
Speaker
Really?
00:18:28
Speaker
Okay, well, we'll see.
00:18:30
Speaker
I'm interested to hear your takes and I'll give you mine as well.
00:18:34
Speaker
But fourth place coming in for me is the team that couldn't even lose right last year.
00:18:43
Speaker
They had a chance for the number one overall pick, and they decided to go ahead and win the last game, even though they had nothing to play for.
00:18:52
Speaker
And they got the second pick and conceded the first to the Chicago Bears, who since we traded for a great pickup.
00:19:00
Speaker
But we'll get into that at a later date and time, because I'm sure I'll hear all about DJ Moore all season long.
00:19:06
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:19:07
Speaker
I'll save my piece until after you're done, but I think they lost in a perfect way, but sorry.
00:19:11
Speaker
Sorry.
00:19:11
Speaker
Okay.
00:19:12
Speaker
Well, couldn't even lose.
00:19:14
Speaker
Right.
00:19:15
Speaker
In my opinion, I think they're going to unfortunately have a difficult year yet again.
00:19:21
Speaker
The Houston Texans are coming in fourth at the AFC South in my book.
00:19:26
Speaker
Okay, so I was correct.
00:19:28
Speaker
Our first one is not the same.
00:19:30
Speaker
So we have our first little disagreement here.
00:19:33
Speaker
The hooligans making waves.
00:19:35
Speaker
Uh-oh.
00:19:36
Speaker
I have a feeling I know who you're going to go with, but we'll see.
00:19:40
Speaker
You may be surprised.
00:19:42
Speaker
Maybe someone with, you know, their star running back on the pup list.
00:19:47
Speaker
Possibly.
00:19:48
Speaker
Possibly.
00:19:50
Speaker
We shall see.
00:19:50
Speaker
Speaking of C, this team's...
00:19:55
Speaker
Name does start with a C, so you would be correct there.
00:19:58
Speaker
But yes, I think that this team is going to finish in the cellar of the division.
00:20:04
Speaker
They've had a lot of offseason drama, as Mac just alluded to.
00:20:09
Speaker
Awesome word.
00:20:10
Speaker
The star player on their team, Jonathan Taylor, has been on the pup list, so he will be out of action, not playing for, I think it's a minimum of, is it four weeks or six?
00:20:21
Speaker
Four.
00:20:21
Speaker
So the first four games, he will not be playing for sure.
00:20:26
Speaker
It could be more than that.
00:20:27
Speaker
But yeah, it's for sure the first four.
00:20:29
Speaker
Okay.
00:20:30
Speaker
Yeah, so he's definitely not playing the first four.
00:20:32
Speaker
They have a young rookie quarterback who a lot of the scouts were like, he's got like an electric arm.
00:20:36
Speaker
He's got like all the physical attributes, but like he threw a lot of interceptions in college.
00:20:41
Speaker
Some people thought Anthony Richardson was a little bit of a reach.
00:20:43
Speaker
And their best quarterback,
00:20:45
Speaker
weapon is Michael Pittman.
00:20:47
Speaker
And he also has not been that great.
00:20:50
Speaker
So between that, their defense lost a lot of pieces, their front management or say the owner has been saying all this crap about like Jonathan Taylor and not paying certain guys.
00:21:00
Speaker
I feel like the locker room is just going to be in disarray.
00:21:03
Speaker
Their coach is a first year.
00:21:05
Speaker
And last year it was a QB carousel.
00:21:07
Speaker
So all that to be said, I think the Colts might be the worst team in the NFL this year.
00:21:12
Speaker
Sorry, Indianapolis.
00:21:13
Speaker
Sorry, any Colts fans.
00:21:14
Speaker
If the Norway listeners are Colts fans, please forgive us.
00:21:18
Speaker
But yeah, I think the Colts are going to finish dead last.
00:21:21
Speaker
And I think it's going to be an ugly, ugly season in Indianapolis this year.
00:21:25
Speaker
So that's my take on it.
00:21:28
Speaker
All right.
00:21:29
Speaker
That's your take and you're sticking to it.
00:21:30
Speaker
It's my take.
00:21:31
Speaker
So who do you got in third then?
00:21:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:21:34
Speaker
So snaking it up to third.
00:21:36
Speaker
I also don't think the team that I think lost in a really good way for the Bears will not be third.
00:21:45
Speaker
I have the Titans.
00:21:47
Speaker
What?
00:21:47
Speaker
I have the Titans in third.
00:21:49
Speaker
You really think rookie CJ Stroud is going to make that much of a difference in third?
00:21:55
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:21:55
Speaker
Houston?
00:21:56
Speaker
Really?
00:21:57
Speaker
I think him, as well as a lot of other pieces, are going to make a big difference.
00:22:00
Speaker
I mean, yeah, they certainly have other pieces.
00:22:02
Speaker
I think it's going to be different, but wow.
00:22:04
Speaker
Okay, interesting.
00:22:05
Speaker
Sorry, continue.
00:22:06
Speaker
And I will get there.
00:22:07
Speaker
Patience is a virtue.
00:22:08
Speaker
Okay, okay, okay.
00:22:09
Speaker
Apologies, apologies.
00:22:11
Speaker
Not necessary.
00:22:13
Speaker
But yeah, in third place, Titans.
00:22:15
Speaker
I have them.
00:22:16
Speaker
Another team that really was just like the class of the division a couple years ago.
00:22:20
Speaker
They were constantly winning it, winning a couple playoff games.
00:22:24
Speaker
Some people thought they could maybe take down the Chiefs eventually.
00:22:26
Speaker
They never did.
00:22:28
Speaker
Mike Vrabel, ex-defender, really good coach.
00:22:31
Speaker
King Henry, all those things kind of just getting stale.
00:22:36
Speaker
King Henry is still good, but like people are starting to figure him out a little bit.
00:22:40
Speaker
Tannehill, Tannehill, he is not a great quarterback.
00:22:46
Speaker
He's a guy that I don't think I'd want to trust as a GM.
00:22:49
Speaker
He also doesn't seem like a great teammate.
00:22:51
Speaker
They didn't draft a young quarterback when they had the chance.
00:22:53
Speaker
And just between that, they lost AJ Brown last year.
00:22:55
Speaker
They don't have a lot of weapons.
00:22:58
Speaker
for Tannehill to throw to.
00:23:00
Speaker
I just don't think they're going to be good.
00:23:01
Speaker
And I have them finishing below the Texans and the Jags and I could have the Texans at first.
00:23:08
Speaker
We'll find out.
00:23:08
Speaker
So yeah.
00:23:09
Speaker
Okay.
00:23:10
Speaker
Wow.
00:23:11
Speaker
If you have the Texans at first, I'll lose it, but okay.
00:23:15
Speaker
That's interesting.
00:23:15
Speaker
So yeah.
00:23:16
Speaker
Third, I have the Indianapolis Colts coming in third place there.
00:23:23
Speaker
That's too incorrect for us.
00:23:25
Speaker
Yep, yep.
00:23:26
Speaker
We are wrong down the board.
00:23:30
Speaker
But yes, so I have the Colts at third.
00:23:33
Speaker
The reason being there is I totally get what you're saying.
00:23:36
Speaker
With Jonathan Taylor, there's a lot of just... Whoa, you okay?
00:23:40
Speaker
What?
00:23:41
Speaker
There was just a very loud... Oh, sorry, I moved my paper.
00:23:46
Speaker
I forgot that my mic was live.
00:23:48
Speaker
My apologies.
00:23:49
Speaker
No problem.
00:23:51
Speaker
Just blew my ears out.
00:23:53
Speaker
Oh, geez.
00:23:54
Speaker
We're rusty, folks.
00:23:55
Speaker
We're rusty.
00:23:57
Speaker
Hey, speak for yourself.
00:23:58
Speaker
I feel like I've been doing okay.
00:24:00
Speaker
I'm rusty.
00:24:04
Speaker
No, I think Nick fell out there at one point.
00:24:06
Speaker
I was like, are you okay?
00:24:07
Speaker
I saw you looking.
00:24:08
Speaker
I was like, what the heck is going on back there?
00:24:10
Speaker
Is everything good?
00:24:11
Speaker
Oh, all good.
00:24:12
Speaker
All good in the recording studio.
00:24:14
Speaker
Amazing.
00:24:15
Speaker
But anyway, where was I?
00:24:16
Speaker
Colts for third place.
00:24:18
Speaker
I totally get what you're saying with Jonathan Taylor.
00:24:20
Speaker
There's those contractual issues.
00:24:22
Speaker
He's on the physically unable to perform.
00:24:24
Speaker
That's what you were saying, the pup list.
00:24:26
Speaker
But there's questions if that's really what's happening or if it's just kind of a holdout for the contract.
00:24:34
Speaker
He does obviously want to be traded.
00:24:35
Speaker
I think there's a good chance he still will get traded at some point.
00:24:39
Speaker
It's just a matter of finding the right suitor, if you will.
00:24:44
Speaker
Oh, wow.
00:24:44
Speaker
Good word.
00:24:45
Speaker
See, I've got my Miriam Webster, my own self.
00:24:47
Speaker
She has it.
00:24:48
Speaker
I actually don't.
00:24:48
Speaker
I'm going from the dome.
00:24:52
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know.
00:24:53
Speaker
I totally get what you're saying there.
00:24:55
Speaker
I just feel like they're not going to be great by any means.
00:24:59
Speaker
Just in my opinion, a rookie QB and CJ Stroud.
00:25:04
Speaker
I just don't know that that's going to make the utmost difference in Texas or I'm yeah.
00:25:08
Speaker
And for the Texans in Texas, in Texas.
00:25:11
Speaker
So I've, I've got the Colts going third there.
00:25:13
Speaker
Cause I think they've still got some, some weapons to use in some fashion.
00:25:20
Speaker
Yeah, that's fair.
00:25:22
Speaker
Let's make it up to two who you got it to snaking it up to two.
00:25:27
Speaker
I have who you named as third, the Tennessee Titans and,
00:25:33
Speaker
And the reason being, so I know you said, so they did end up drafting Will Levis.
00:25:38
Speaker
Do you think there's a chance that they're going to use him?
00:25:40
Speaker
I know you had said they're going to go with Tammy Hill.
00:25:43
Speaker
I think they still will, but...
00:25:45
Speaker
Are you talking about the guy that puts mayonnaise in his coffee?
00:25:47
Speaker
Yes, that's the one.
00:25:48
Speaker
Yeah, I wouldn't trust that guy with a freaking quarter, to be honest.
00:25:52
Speaker
So, yeah, I stand by what I said.
00:25:54
Speaker
Okay, yeah.
00:25:55
Speaker
I'll be honest, I haven't really followed their offseason or training camps or preseasons or anything like that.
00:26:01
Speaker
So, I don't really know how he's looking.
00:26:02
Speaker
But overall, I agree.
00:26:04
Speaker
I think they're going to at least start the season with Tannehill and see how it goes.
00:26:09
Speaker
I mean, ultimately, I think they held their own last year and they haven't really changed too many of their pieces.
00:26:16
Speaker
So I feel like overall, yes, they're kind of stagnant.
00:26:19
Speaker
They may have plateaued.
00:26:21
Speaker
I don't think they're anywhere near Super Bowl.
00:26:23
Speaker
I don't think they're going to win the division, but I think they're going to win more games than the Colts and the Texans.
00:26:29
Speaker
So.
00:26:30
Speaker
That's ultimately what it came down to.
00:26:32
Speaker
So that's why, you know, more games means higher up.
00:26:35
Speaker
So I think.
00:26:36
Speaker
Oh God, is that what that means?
00:26:37
Speaker
Oh shoot, it's not golf.
00:26:39
Speaker
It's not golf.
00:26:41
Speaker
We're looking for higher wins, not those.
00:26:43
Speaker
I have this backwards shoot.
00:26:44
Speaker
Oh shoot.
00:26:47
Speaker
No, that's a fair assessment.
00:26:49
Speaker
And yeah, I mean, Titans were number two in the division last year.
00:26:52
Speaker
So as of now, like you said, they didn't change much.
00:26:56
Speaker
That would be the safe pick.
00:26:57
Speaker
I'm not a safe picking guy.
00:26:59
Speaker
It's 2023.
00:27:01
Speaker
It's the third season for making waves.
00:27:03
Speaker
I'm taking risks.
00:27:05
Speaker
I think the Texans are going to make a huge jump.
00:27:08
Speaker
And I think they're going to be one of, I don't want to spoil anything.
00:27:11
Speaker
There's another team that I think is going to have a bigger jump.
00:27:14
Speaker
But I think the Texans, that's why I know that you're not listening to me right now, what I just said.
00:27:20
Speaker
You said there's going to be another team that's going to make a big jump.
00:27:23
Speaker
So you think the last place team in the NFL, I know you're talking about the Bears.
00:27:28
Speaker
Oh, we're talking about the Bears?
00:27:30
Speaker
Aren't you?
00:27:31
Speaker
I get it.
00:27:31
Speaker
We're talking about them now.
00:27:34
Speaker
You said there's going to be two.
00:27:35
Speaker
I was still listening, even though I was looking down.
00:27:38
Speaker
You said there's going to be another team, two teams that make the biggest jump.
00:27:41
Speaker
So I'm guessing you're talking about the team that got last place and the team that got second to last, the Chicago Bears and Houston Texans.
00:27:48
Speaker
I guess we'll find out.
00:27:49
Speaker
And just for the record, she's bringing up the bears.
00:27:52
Speaker
I'm not, I love talking about them, but she brought them up.
00:27:54
Speaker
But yes, I think the Texans are one of the highest jumping teams this year.
00:28:00
Speaker
I think they are going to make some noise in the AFC South.
00:28:05
Speaker
I think, I don't think they're going to win the division, but I think they're going to surprise the people.
00:28:09
Speaker
They're going to win some games that they shouldn't.
00:28:11
Speaker
They're going to ruin some, some pick them pools.
00:28:14
Speaker
And I'm going to tell you why.
00:28:15
Speaker
So CJ Strout,
00:28:17
Speaker
a stud at Ohio state.
00:28:18
Speaker
I think he is going to be one of those guys that hits the league and hits the ground running.
00:28:23
Speaker
I don't think he's going to have a rookie hangover.
00:28:25
Speaker
I don't think he's going to have like a learning curve.
00:28:27
Speaker
I think he's going to be instantaneously a really good player.
00:28:30
Speaker
I watched a lot of his games just,
00:28:32
Speaker
following the big 10 michigan state ohio state he's good he's really good i trust him i think the panthers really fudged up going with bryce young excuse my french sorry explicit cj trout a stud they also got people forget they traded up to number two they got will anderson jr as well or sorry will anderson it was a junior or will anderson i don't know if it's junior senior yeah yeah yeah will anderson jr i believe yeah you're right you're right they did trade up they did make some really good moves
00:28:59
Speaker
Yep.
00:28:59
Speaker
So a lot of people say they got not only the best offensive player in the draft, they got the best defensive player in the draft.
00:29:05
Speaker
D'Amico Ryan, defensive coordinator from the 49ers is their new head coach.
00:29:11
Speaker
He is by all accounts, a player's coach.
00:29:14
Speaker
People love playing for him.
00:29:15
Speaker
That defense is going to rally.
00:29:17
Speaker
They got, um, Damian Pierce is a really good running back.
00:29:21
Speaker
They've got a couple of good pieces to throw to you.
00:29:22
Speaker
I think the Texans are going to be kind of scarily good.
00:29:25
Speaker
And I think it all started when they won the,
00:29:28
Speaker
the right.
00:29:29
Speaker
Sorry.
00:29:30
Speaker
Yes.
00:29:31
Speaker
When they won the last week of the season, thanks to Lovey Smith gifting my boys, the number one pick, which gives us DJ more and the Panthers number one pick next year.
00:29:39
Speaker
Thank you.
00:29:40
Speaker
Pan or thank you Texans.
00:29:42
Speaker
Thank you.
00:29:42
Speaker
Lovey Smith.
00:29:43
Speaker
I believe in you.
00:29:44
Speaker
You believed in yourself week 17 last year.
00:29:46
Speaker
And I think they're going to surprise people and finish second.
00:29:50
Speaker
Okay.
00:29:51
Speaker
You make some really good points.
00:29:53
Speaker
And I like the creative thinking there around just the different draft picks and everything.
00:29:58
Speaker
Thank you.
00:29:59
Speaker
I just hesitate.
00:30:00
Speaker
I think we put a lot of stock into rookies out of the draft and sometimes sure that can be a really big impact, but I think we put a lot of stock into them.
00:30:11
Speaker
And I think there's a much bigger jump between college and the NFL that people, people consider.
00:30:18
Speaker
So that's fair.
00:30:18
Speaker
That's why I disagree, but I can see your points for sure.
00:30:23
Speaker
She's disagreeing with me.
00:30:24
Speaker
That never happened.
00:30:25
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
00:30:26
Speaker
Heck no.
00:30:27
Speaker
Hey, we'll agree to disagree, but something we do agree on good transition.
00:30:31
Speaker
Bobby is the team that we think is going to win the division.
00:30:36
Speaker
So I'll snake it on up the Jaguars.
00:30:38
Speaker
Is it Jaguar Jaguar?
00:30:42
Speaker
I mean, I think it's just however you want to pronounce it.
00:30:44
Speaker
But what is the real pronunciation?
00:30:46
Speaker
Is it Jaguar or is it Jagwire?
00:30:50
Speaker
I say Jagwire, but I think some people do say Jaguar.
00:30:55
Speaker
You say Jagwire, like J-A-G-W-I-R-E.
00:30:59
Speaker
There's no wire.
00:30:59
Speaker
Yeah, I say Jaguar.
00:31:01
Speaker
Jaguar.
00:31:01
Speaker
Yeah, I guess I say Jaguar.
00:31:03
Speaker
You say Jagwire.
00:31:05
Speaker
Okay.
00:31:06
Speaker
I just got back from Tanzania and I was being made fun of the entire three weeks because I was the only American in my little group and they always made fun of what I said.
00:31:14
Speaker
And we went over Jaguar is one of the words and they're like, it's not pronounced Jaguar.
00:31:18
Speaker
Cause I also said that they said Jaguar.
00:31:20
Speaker
So shout out, shout out Tanzania crew.
00:31:23
Speaker
We're going to say the Jaguars, wait, Jaguars, Jaguars,
00:31:30
Speaker
Between me and you, I like Jaguar better as well.
00:31:33
Speaker
We'll stick with Jaguar.
00:31:34
Speaker
That was the two minutes that the Norwegians are never going to get back.
00:31:39
Speaker
Two minutes of just trying to pronounce that word.
00:31:41
Speaker
So anyway, we're picking the T from Jacksonville.
00:31:43
Speaker
We'll leave it at that.
00:31:44
Speaker
There you go.
00:31:46
Speaker
The J squared Jacksonville Jays.
00:31:49
Speaker
Yeah, they surprise a lot of people.
00:31:51
Speaker
Lord Farquaad is just going to keep getting better.
00:31:54
Speaker
They've got Evan Ingram.
00:31:55
Speaker
They've got Travis Etienne.
00:31:57
Speaker
They've got a lot of weapons.
00:31:58
Speaker
They won a playoff game as well.
00:31:59
Speaker
They beat the Chargers.
00:32:00
Speaker
So not only did they win the division.
00:32:02
Speaker
Don't forget.
00:32:03
Speaker
Not only did they win the division, they won a playoff game.
00:32:06
Speaker
They gave the Chiefs a little run for their money.
00:32:07
Speaker
Now, I don't think they're going to be able to this year compete with the Chiefs and the Bills and the Bengals of the world in the AFC.
00:32:14
Speaker
But I think if this trend continues in a couple of years, the Jacksonville Jays will be able to kind of fight with the big boys and they're trending upward.
00:32:23
Speaker
And I think they're going to win the division for the seconds right here.
00:32:27
Speaker
All right.
00:32:27
Speaker
Well, that is one thing that we agree on with this division.
00:32:30
Speaker
The only thing that we agree on in this division is that they are going to take first place overall.
00:32:37
Speaker
I think Doug Peterson is really changing the culture down there and making it, like you said, upward trajectory team.
00:32:43
Speaker
So exciting to see where they're headed.
00:32:46
Speaker
And I'm sure Jacksonville fans around the world are thrilled.
00:32:50
Speaker
Agreed.
00:32:51
Speaker
Well put.
00:32:52
Speaker
Let's move on.
00:32:53
Speaker
Division three.
00:32:54
Speaker
All right.
00:32:55
Speaker
Division three.
00:32:56
Speaker
And in my opinion, I hate to say this, but arguably the best division in the league this season is the AFC East.
00:33:06
Speaker
Whoa.
00:33:07
Speaker
In my personal opinion.
00:33:09
Speaker
Okay.
00:33:10
Speaker
I'll hit on that in a second, but I respect this.
00:33:13
Speaker
Which is a big thing.
00:33:14
Speaker
I mean, when you look at these names...
00:33:17
Speaker
Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Pats.
00:33:19
Speaker
Like, normally, I don't think that people would consider that.
00:33:23
Speaker
But heading into this season, I think that's what makes football so exciting.
00:33:26
Speaker
It switches from year to year.
00:33:28
Speaker
Yes.
00:33:28
Speaker
And you just really never know.
00:33:30
Speaker
But this is shaping up to be a very exciting division, in my opinion.
00:33:36
Speaker
I agree.
00:33:38
Speaker
I'm saying I agree a lot.
00:33:39
Speaker
We are, we're kind of on the same page.
00:33:42
Speaker
New year, new us.
00:33:43
Speaker
New year, new making waves.
00:33:45
Speaker
It wouldn't be.
00:33:46
Speaker
Even though we just disagreed on three, three teams.
00:33:49
Speaker
But we're done disagree.
00:33:50
Speaker
We're back to agreeing.
00:33:51
Speaker
We're ready to agree.
00:33:52
Speaker
And I wonder if we'll agree on this.
00:33:54
Speaker
We'll see.
00:33:55
Speaker
Yes.
00:33:56
Speaker
Why don't you kick us off with your fourth, fourth place here?
00:33:59
Speaker
Okay.
00:33:59
Speaker
And I was going to say, do you think it'd be crazy to say that this is the best quarterback division in the NFL as well?
00:34:07
Speaker
Um, no, I don't, I don't know if it's, I think it's one of the best.
00:34:13
Speaker
Yes.
00:34:13
Speaker
I think it's definitely up there.
00:34:15
Speaker
Um, I might put it number one.
00:34:17
Speaker
I know there's another division jumping to mind that's up there as well, but between Alan, Tua, Aaron, and, uh, I mean, Mac, unfortunately, he's the, the worst of the pair or the, uh, the four, but that's three huge names.
00:34:31
Speaker
If Tua has another good year or so.
00:34:33
Speaker
That is, if Tua can have another good year.
00:34:34
Speaker
I don't know why I naturally bump Tua down.
00:34:39
Speaker
And I think that's just like a consensus that people just like kind of naturally underestimate him.
00:34:44
Speaker
I think you're right.
00:34:45
Speaker
I think there's definitely a good, he's got a ton of talent and a lot of good talent around him.
00:34:51
Speaker
Agreed.
00:34:51
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know why.
00:34:52
Speaker
I just like kind of naturally bump him down.
00:34:54
Speaker
So in my opinion, I'm like, oh, there's two stud quarterbacks and there are a lot of leagues that have two stud quarterbacks or divisions that have two stud quarterbacks.
00:35:01
Speaker
But yeah.
00:35:02
Speaker
I mean, it's a good point.
00:35:03
Speaker
I mean, Tua has proven himself to be a great quarterback as well.
00:35:07
Speaker
He had a lot of good moments last year, and Noah, hopefully, Tua can prove himself again.
00:35:12
Speaker
Mr. and Mrs. Tugu Vailoa, hopefully your son can stay on that right track.
00:35:17
Speaker
But, yeah, anyway.
00:35:18
Speaker
Close, I think, in the pronunciation there.
00:35:20
Speaker
I thought that was pretty close compared to last year.
00:35:22
Speaker
But we digress once again.
00:35:25
Speaker
So, fourth place, AFC East.
00:35:27
Speaker
I'm starting it off here?
00:35:28
Speaker
Yeah, hit us.
00:35:29
Speaker
So this is a team that is not used to the seller in the last 15, 20 years.
00:35:34
Speaker
But I think this is going to be one of those years where it's going to be tough for them.
00:35:39
Speaker
There's three superior teams.
00:35:42
Speaker
There's three superior quarterbacks.
00:35:44
Speaker
There's not three superior coaches, but coaches don't put on the pad.
00:35:47
Speaker
So I don't think that's going to be a big difference.
00:35:49
Speaker
And yeah, all that to be said, I think the New England Patriots are going to finish in fourth place.
00:35:55
Speaker
Mac Jones is just not a good quarterback in my opinion.
00:35:58
Speaker
He's a dime a dozen.
00:36:00
Speaker
You could select 10 of him every single draft.
00:36:03
Speaker
He doesn't really do anything special.
00:36:05
Speaker
He's a game manager.
00:36:06
Speaker
Excuse me.
00:36:07
Speaker
Sorry, Mac.
00:36:09
Speaker
I don't really feel like I'm doing you a solid here, but he hasn't really shown anybody anything in terms of why we'd be excited about him.
00:36:21
Speaker
Sure.
00:36:21
Speaker
They do have Matt Doudon, the Grand Valley State alum.
00:36:25
Speaker
Laker up.
00:36:27
Speaker
But other than that, they lost Jacoby Myers.
00:36:31
Speaker
Ramondre Stevenson's pretty solid.
00:36:33
Speaker
But other than that, they just don't have a lot of weapons.
00:36:35
Speaker
They don't have a good quarterback.
00:36:36
Speaker
Their defense is math and the division's really hard.
00:36:39
Speaker
So yeah, I think it's going to be pretty clear that they're going to be the worst team out of the, out of the group.
00:36:45
Speaker
All right.
00:36:46
Speaker
I won't add much to that.
00:36:48
Speaker
I totally agree.
00:36:49
Speaker
The only thing I would say, it is interesting.
00:36:52
Speaker
I don't know if you saw, they just did roster cuts this week.
00:36:56
Speaker
Every team had to get down to 53 men on their roster.
00:36:59
Speaker
And they cut...
00:37:01
Speaker
All their backup quarterbacks.
00:37:03
Speaker
So Mac Jones is the only quarterback currently on their roster.
00:37:06
Speaker
They cut Bailey Zappi, which was surprising to me because they just drafted him.
00:37:09
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:10
Speaker
What was that last year?
00:37:11
Speaker
So yeah, definitely a surprising one, I think for a lot of people, but I totally agree with you here.
00:37:17
Speaker
Patriots at fourth place coming in the AFC East.
00:37:20
Speaker
Man, shout out to the Macs of the world.
00:37:21
Speaker
No backup quarterbacks in New England, host of making waves.
00:37:25
Speaker
Must be nice to be a Mac.
00:37:26
Speaker
Hey, it is pretty nice.
00:37:28
Speaker
It's not bad.
00:37:30
Speaker
All right, moving up to third place.
00:37:34
Speaker
I mean, honestly, this is where things started getting dicey for me.
00:37:37
Speaker
Like I said, this division, the AFC East, I think has potential to be the best in the league.
00:37:44
Speaker
And it'll be interesting because I think last year we were like, oh my gosh, AFC West, every single team, Raiders, Chargers, Broncos, and it was literally just the Chiefs.
00:37:53
Speaker
So it'll be interesting to see if the same thing happens here tomorrow.
00:37:57
Speaker
But currently, the way it's shaping up, this is going to be a tough battle for the top three.
00:38:03
Speaker
I think, unfortunately, the one that falls just slightly below, in my opinion, I am so sorry, Noah, is the Dolphins.
00:38:12
Speaker
I think they are such a good team.
00:38:15
Speaker
I really do.
00:38:16
Speaker
Bob is over there absolutely shocked and stunned.
00:38:19
Speaker
They are a good team.
00:38:20
Speaker
And maybe it is that quarterback play.
00:38:22
Speaker
But I feel like if you just look at Josh Allen,
00:38:26
Speaker
Aaron Rodgers and Tua, when you shake it down all the way to the nitty gritty, he's not on the same level as those two, Tua, in my opinion.
00:38:38
Speaker
He's a good quarterback, but he's not Aaron Rodgers or Josh Allen.
00:38:41
Speaker
So I feel like it comes down to quarterback play.
00:38:43
Speaker
He's got great studs around him, especially if they can stay healthy.
00:38:47
Speaker
I mean, they did an amazing job last year.
00:38:50
Speaker
with all of those concussions and all of those injuries.
00:38:53
Speaker
But I don't know when I, when I break it all the way down just to player for player and it comes back to the main guy on the field quarterback.
00:39:01
Speaker
That's why I, that's what made my decision.
00:39:03
Speaker
I bumped him to third.
00:39:05
Speaker
So dolphins at third for me.
00:39:07
Speaker
Okay.
00:39:08
Speaker
Noah, you can un-ear, or what do you call it?
00:39:11
Speaker
Un-earmuff your ears because you're going to like this.
00:39:16
Speaker
I disagree with my co-host on this one.
00:39:18
Speaker
I do agree that this, between two and three, is like razor thin.
00:39:21
Speaker
This can go either way, in my opinion.
00:39:24
Speaker
And both of these teams are very, very evenly matched.
00:39:27
Speaker
But I actually had the Jets at number three.
00:39:29
Speaker
And it might be a little PTSD.
00:39:31
Speaker
I was going to say, anything to do with Aaron Rodgers there?
00:39:36
Speaker
No, I don't have anything against the guy at all.
00:39:38
Speaker
He hasn't done anything to me.
00:39:39
Speaker
Oh, weird.
00:39:41
Speaker
No, I think it might be a little bit of PTSD from Mr. Rogers, number 12.
00:39:46
Speaker
Thank goodness he's far away in New York in the AFC East, so I don't mind him anymore.
00:39:52
Speaker
I'm not going to wake up in cold sweats thinking about number 12 anymore, thank goodness.
00:39:56
Speaker
But I just think...
00:39:58
Speaker
And you're right.
00:39:59
Speaker
I do think the quarterback position is the most important position on the field, but I think the weapons around the quarterback is also super, super important.
00:40:08
Speaker
And I think the Dolphins might have the best weapons in the entire NFL with Waddle and Hill.
00:40:14
Speaker
and their running back game is solid with Mostert, and they have a really, really good defense.
00:40:19
Speaker
Jets also have a really great defense, but their coach is more defensive-minded, so it's going to be interesting to see how Rodgers kind of hits the ground running.
00:40:27
Speaker
I don't know who his OC is or what that situation is.
00:40:29
Speaker
I know Rodgers
00:40:31
Speaker
Sala is their coach and he's like a defensive minded guy.
00:40:34
Speaker
Right.
00:40:35
Speaker
And I also really like the Dolphins coach.
00:40:37
Speaker
What's his name?
00:40:38
Speaker
Is it McDaniel?
00:40:40
Speaker
Mike McDaniel.
00:40:41
Speaker
He's a really funny guy.
00:40:42
Speaker
And I think he's really like McLovin out there.
00:40:46
Speaker
I think his players love playing for him.
00:40:49
Speaker
So I just think, I think maybe Rogers will have some year one growing pains and I think they'll be good, but I don't think they're going to be as good as people think.
00:40:59
Speaker
So that's why I have them at three.
00:41:01
Speaker
All right.
00:41:02
Speaker
Interesting.
00:41:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:03
Speaker
I mean, you make good points for sure.
00:41:05
Speaker
And we'll see how it all shakes out.
00:41:07
Speaker
You can jump to two if you'd like.
00:41:09
Speaker
And yeah, two.
00:41:12
Speaker
I'm assuming, yeah.
00:41:14
Speaker
Two is going to be capitalized by Tua and first dad joke of the year.
00:41:19
Speaker
Yes.
00:41:20
Speaker
And, uh, thank you.
00:41:21
Speaker
Absolutely crushed it.
00:41:22
Speaker
Appreciate it.
00:41:23
Speaker
Appreciate it.
00:41:24
Speaker
And, uh, I, I just hit on a lot of this.
00:41:26
Speaker
I'm going to keep this short and sweet allegedly, but yeah, I think as long as Tua can stay away from the concussions this year, they were looking like they could have won the division.
00:41:36
Speaker
Then he went out in late November and that was really scary with him wobbling around.
00:41:40
Speaker
And then obviously the second half of the season, it was not the same for the dolphins having to, uh,
00:41:44
Speaker
rely on their backup quarterback, but between him being healthy and their wide receivers being healthy and the defense being healthy and McDaniels having his second or Mike McDaniel, I'm so sorry.
00:41:54
Speaker
I do know who you are.
00:41:56
Speaker
We'll send you some swag, but I think year two under him is going to be the best yet.
00:42:01
Speaker
And I think they're going to give the bills a run for their money, but ultimately I have them on the silver platform in the AFC East.
00:42:10
Speaker
Okay, sounds good.
00:42:12
Speaker
So I'll just give my quick little rebuttal there.
00:42:15
Speaker
Obviously, you and I both have an issue with Aaron Rodgers as a whole quarterback.
00:42:21
Speaker
With all of the years he's tortured us in Green Bay, one of us maybe more than the other.
00:42:27
Speaker
But certainly we both did not like him.
00:42:30
Speaker
I will say I am interested to see if I enjoy watching him more and respecting him more as a quarterback now that he is no longer in our division.
00:42:43
Speaker
I wouldn't get too excited about that.
00:42:46
Speaker
I wouldn't...
00:42:47
Speaker
I don't know.
00:42:48
Speaker
What am I trying to say here?
00:42:50
Speaker
I wouldn't count on that, basically.
00:42:51
Speaker
But I am interested to see.
00:42:54
Speaker
I mean, they've been on hard knocks this year.
00:42:57
Speaker
So it has been just interesting to see a little bit different and maybe respect him a little bit more as a player.
00:43:05
Speaker
Not respect.
00:43:05
Speaker
Not full respect.
00:43:07
Speaker
Bob looks absolutely shocked.
00:43:08
Speaker
Not full respect.
00:43:10
Speaker
But hey, I don't know.
00:43:11
Speaker
We'll see.
00:43:12
Speaker
But regardless, the reason that I put that at second, I know what you're saying about Salah, defensive minded.
00:43:20
Speaker
Obviously, that's important.
00:43:23
Speaker
I think ultimately, though, with Roger's experience, I think he's going to be shaping up a lot of the offense.
00:43:30
Speaker
And unfortunately, we have seen that that can be successful.
00:43:34
Speaker
We've seen it be successful in multiple MVP wins for the guy.
00:43:39
Speaker
So I think he obviously brings a lot of knowledge and experience to a team with young guys who have already performed extremely well.
00:43:47
Speaker
The Jets have had
00:43:49
Speaker
Had the 2022-2023 Defensive Rookie of the Year in Sauce Gardner.
00:43:53
Speaker
They had the Offensive Rookie of the Year in Garrett Wilson.
00:43:57
Speaker
They have young guys who I think with that added bit of growth and experience in Rodgers, I mean, I could see them being a very good team in what the hype is all about.
00:44:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:11
Speaker
I don't know.
00:44:11
Speaker
It's either going to crash or burn or it's going to go really, really well for them.
00:44:15
Speaker
And I honestly do kind of think that they're going to give the Bills a run for their money as well in this league.
00:44:20
Speaker
And I think that they can really compete this year.
00:44:23
Speaker
And I'm kind of excited to see how it shakes out.
00:44:26
Speaker
Maybe not excited to watch them, but I'm excited to see how this division shakes out.
00:44:31
Speaker
No, that's very fair.
00:44:32
Speaker
And all jokes aside, you made a lot of really good points.
00:44:34
Speaker
I was just giving you a hard time because I heard the word respect by Aaron Rodgers.
00:44:40
Speaker
I don't respect the guy, but I maybe can respect that he is a better player now that he's not in our league.
00:44:50
Speaker
That is very, very understandable, and I will let that one slide, and I agree.
00:44:54
Speaker
Again, look at us agreeing.
00:44:55
Speaker
And the good news is, even if he makes the playoffs, which I do think the Jets probably will make the playoffs, I think he will choke because he always does.
00:45:05
Speaker
So don't worry.
00:45:06
Speaker
Don't worry.
00:45:07
Speaker
He's not winning the ring.
00:45:08
Speaker
One thing we know about Aaron Rodgers is once the weather gets cold and the regular season over, that guy loves choking.
00:45:15
Speaker
So, yeah, I mean, hey, we'll see if we can do it again now that he's in New York.
00:45:18
Speaker
Just call him Aaron Prescott.
00:45:20
Speaker
Wow.
00:45:21
Speaker
Oh, my gosh.
00:45:22
Speaker
And Dak Rodgers because they both choke.
00:45:24
Speaker
Dallas and Green Bay shots fired.
00:45:26
Speaker
Whoa.
00:45:27
Speaker
I love it.
00:45:28
Speaker
Shots fired.
00:45:29
Speaker
Incredible.
00:45:31
Speaker
Anyway, moving up.
00:45:32
Speaker
I don't think we have much to talk about here.
00:45:34
Speaker
We both agree.
00:45:35
Speaker
Buffalo Bills.
00:45:37
Speaker
We've been saying it for years that it's just their time.
00:45:40
Speaker
And I am concerned that they are never going to get over that last little hump.
00:45:46
Speaker
They had an absolute...
00:45:48
Speaker
elite team in Von Miller last year and all of these things.
00:45:52
Speaker
I don't know.
00:45:52
Speaker
I'm just worried about them.
00:45:53
Speaker
We've been predicting it for years and they've been so close.
00:45:57
Speaker
And I think they have it within reach.
00:45:58
Speaker
They just got to pull the trigger and really like make it happen.
00:46:01
Speaker
But I still have them winning this league or this division.
00:46:05
Speaker
I don't know what I'm saying.
00:46:06
Speaker
I'm just worried about them never
00:46:09
Speaker
Hitting the peak all the way, but you're smiling.
00:46:12
Speaker
So that means I think you think they're going to go to the Superbowl.
00:46:15
Speaker
No, I, I'm not going to do any spoilers.
00:46:18
Speaker
I'm smiling because I'm getting worried that we're not going to have any fans because Max shooting shooting shots, Dallas, green Bay, Buffalo.
00:46:26
Speaker
Oh my God.
00:46:27
Speaker
Oh, trust me.
00:46:28
Speaker
If I was a Buffalo, I would be thrilled to have that team.
00:46:35
Speaker
I just want to see them.
00:46:37
Speaker
I really want to see them with the rings.
00:46:40
Speaker
I want to see them win.
00:46:41
Speaker
I'm just worried that they haven't done it yet.
00:46:43
Speaker
I feel like they've already had the roster to do it.
00:46:45
Speaker
So what's happening?
00:46:46
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:46:46
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely get that.
00:46:48
Speaker
Like their window.
00:46:49
Speaker
I feel like in the NFL you have a certain amount of years with like a window where you can win the Super Bowl.
00:46:55
Speaker
And I think all Mac is saying, Buffalo, is that the window is starting to close a little bit.
00:47:00
Speaker
It's still open, but you got to take advantage.
00:47:02
Speaker
Is that what you were saying?
00:47:03
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:47:04
Speaker
Thank you for correcting me there.
00:47:05
Speaker
I think it's still fully open.
00:47:08
Speaker
And I still think they're a top five team in the NFL.
00:47:11
Speaker
I'm just concerned.
00:47:12
Speaker
I feel like they've been favorites so much.
00:47:14
Speaker
I just want to see them just like hit that peak and even exceed it.
00:47:18
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:47:19
Speaker
Exceed the expectations, not fall short anymore.
00:47:21
Speaker
Sorry, I'm just making a telly of how many teams do you want to say.
00:47:25
Speaker
How many teams I've upset tonight.
00:47:27
Speaker
I'm just making a tally of how many teams you said are in the top five.
00:47:30
Speaker
We're at three right now.
00:47:31
Speaker
So I'm going to keep that in mind.
00:47:32
Speaker
Okay, I'll name all top five, and I'm fine with it.
00:47:36
Speaker
I'm just giving you a hard time.
00:47:38
Speaker
But once you hit five, I'm going to say no more.
00:47:40
Speaker
Okay, I'll tell you.
00:47:41
Speaker
The Chiefs are also one of them, so put that on.
00:47:43
Speaker
There's four.
00:47:44
Speaker
Oh, my gosh.
00:47:44
Speaker
Four in the AFC, folks.
00:47:46
Speaker
NFC.
00:47:47
Speaker
Wait, no.
00:47:48
Speaker
What did I say?
00:47:49
Speaker
I've only said Bengals, Bills, and Chiefs so far.
00:47:51
Speaker
That's three.
00:47:52
Speaker
Oh, folks, I'm embarrassed.
00:47:53
Speaker
I am thoroughly embarrassed.
00:47:55
Speaker
That's three.
00:47:55
Speaker
I'd say Bengals, Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, and 49ers.
00:48:01
Speaker
Bears.
00:48:02
Speaker
Who said Bears?
00:48:03
Speaker
Me or you?
00:48:05
Speaker
Anyways, your turn, because we've got to move this along.
00:48:09
Speaker
We're still only on the third team in the AFC.
00:48:11
Speaker
Folks, I thought this was going to be a 30-minute episode.
00:48:13
Speaker
We're on Division III, and we're at 50 minutes.
00:48:15
Speaker
I agree with you.
00:48:16
Speaker
Let's move on down.
00:48:17
Speaker
All right, moving into the AFC West.
00:48:20
Speaker
I feel like this is going to be a pretty quick one.
00:48:22
Speaker
I think so.
00:48:24
Speaker
For fourth place for me, I don't think they're going to continue to improve.
00:48:29
Speaker
I think that everybody thought, including myself, we should go.
00:48:33
Speaker
But if we roll the tapes from last year, we were like, oh, Broncos, third or second place in the division.
00:48:39
Speaker
Nope.
00:48:40
Speaker
Russell Wilson isn't it.
00:48:41
Speaker
Broncos are struggling.
00:48:42
Speaker
I don't think they're going to be much better this year, unfortunately, especially in that division.
00:48:47
Speaker
I got Broncos at fourth.
00:48:48
Speaker
I agree.
00:48:49
Speaker
And it's going to be funny to go back and listen to this episode because we spent like 15, 15, 15.
00:48:53
Speaker
It's going to be like three minutes, three minutes, three minutes, which is great.
00:48:57
Speaker
And that's why I love about making way time though for the NFC North.
00:49:00
Speaker
So yes, yes, we do.
00:49:02
Speaker
Uh, I completely agree.
00:49:03
Speaker
Broncos.
00:49:03
Speaker
I have them in the basement.
00:49:05
Speaker
I don't think Sean Payton's going to make a big difference.
00:49:06
Speaker
And I've also heard a lot of bad things about him.
00:49:08
Speaker
He's not a very likable guy.
00:49:09
Speaker
So I'm cheering against the Broncos.
00:49:11
Speaker
I also let's ride.
00:49:12
Speaker
Don't like him.
00:49:13
Speaker
So a lot of unlikable people in, uh, Denver.
00:49:17
Speaker
Sorry.
00:49:17
Speaker
Uh,
00:49:18
Speaker
Amo and Eli, we love Colorado.
00:49:19
Speaker
We don't like the Broncos.
00:49:20
Speaker
We'll have them fourth.
00:49:21
Speaker
I'm going to snake up the third.
00:49:23
Speaker
Keep it rolling.
00:49:24
Speaker
We're rimming.
00:49:25
Speaker
We're rolling.
00:49:26
Speaker
Rimming's not a word.
00:49:27
Speaker
Oh, gosh.
00:49:29
Speaker
You can talk a little slower, too.
00:49:30
Speaker
It's fine.
00:49:31
Speaker
Because the NFC, the AFC is a lot more competitive, in my opinion, than the NFC.
00:49:36
Speaker
So I feel like NFC is going to go quicker.
00:49:37
Speaker
For sure.
00:49:39
Speaker
Okay, thank you for reeling me back in because that was going to be really chaotic.
00:49:42
Speaker
Broncos, we hate Broncos.
00:49:44
Speaker
We hate Denver.
00:49:44
Speaker
No Russell Wilson.
00:49:45
Speaker
Let's ride.
00:49:46
Speaker
Well, we're making a lot of enemies.
00:49:47
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:49:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:48
Speaker
Thank you for ruling me back in.
00:49:49
Speaker
Third place, this team has had a lot of drama in the offseason.
00:49:53
Speaker
What else is new?
00:49:55
Speaker
Viva Las Vegas.
00:49:56
Speaker
They do have a new quarterback, Garoppolo.
00:49:58
Speaker
Matt just gave me quite the look there, so maybe she wasn't agreeing with this.
00:50:02
Speaker
But Garoppolo, I think he'll be – no, wait.
00:50:05
Speaker
It is Garoppolo, yes, because David Carr is now in New Orleans.
00:50:08
Speaker
Garoppolo, I think he could be a solid fit.
00:50:10
Speaker
But the Raiders just – I mean, they got Jacoby Myers from New England.
00:50:14
Speaker
Josh Jacobs, I think he's due for a down year after he led the league in rushing last year.
00:50:19
Speaker
But, yeah, I mean, they got Max Crosby.
00:50:22
Speaker
Hot take, yes.
00:50:23
Speaker
Sorry, Jacobs fam.
00:50:24
Speaker
We'll send you some swag.
00:50:25
Speaker
But, yeah, I mean, Max Crosby, he's a cool story.
00:50:29
Speaker
But other than that, they're just kind of a blah team.
00:50:31
Speaker
They're one of those squads you see on your schedule and you think we can beat them.
00:50:37
Speaker
They're really not scary.
00:50:38
Speaker
And Garoppolo, I think he was more of like a –
00:50:42
Speaker
playbook type quarterback in San Fran.
00:50:44
Speaker
And I think he might not succeed in a place like Las Vegas.
00:50:47
Speaker
So I think the Raiders are going to struggle.
00:50:50
Speaker
They have two losses against the chiefs.
00:50:52
Speaker
They have two losses against the chargers.
00:50:54
Speaker
They'll probably split against the Broncos.
00:50:56
Speaker
That's five right there and didn't even look at the rest of their schedule.
00:50:58
Speaker
So I got them in third place.
00:51:00
Speaker
Okay.
00:51:01
Speaker
I mean, I also have them in third place.
00:51:04
Speaker
I feel like I'm maybe not as hard on them as you are.
00:51:07
Speaker
I totally agree.
00:51:08
Speaker
Garoppolo is more of a game manager type of a quarterback, not necessarily like a huge playmaker or anything like that.
00:51:15
Speaker
But I feel like he does enough with Devontae Adams there as well.
00:51:19
Speaker
And Josh Jacobs.
00:51:21
Speaker
I don't necessarily think he's going to decline.
00:51:23
Speaker
I think that he's pretty electric running back.
00:51:25
Speaker
So,
00:51:26
Speaker
I feel like they've got it somewhat of a shot, to be completely honest.
00:51:30
Speaker
I don't think that they're going to be like a trash team by any means.
00:51:33
Speaker
But I do still have them third just because of who else is in their division.
00:51:37
Speaker
Chargers better not let me down again, though, because we've been hyping them.
00:51:42
Speaker
Talk about another team that does not meet expectations.
00:51:46
Speaker
And I'm making another enemy.
00:51:48
Speaker
She's just making enemies often right.
00:51:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:50
Speaker
But I'll move on from the Raiders since we both agree at third.
00:51:54
Speaker
I have the Chargers at second overall.
00:51:56
Speaker
And the reason I say that, I feel like the past several years we've been like, oh my gosh, Justin Herbert, Keenan Allen.
00:52:03
Speaker
These people are just explosive.
00:52:06
Speaker
Austin Ackler, they've got such a good team.
00:52:08
Speaker
They do have a really good roster on paper, but I feel like they have not met expectations any year so far.
00:52:15
Speaker
And granted, there have been a lot of injuries.
00:52:17
Speaker
There's been a lot of especially wide receiver injuries.
00:52:20
Speaker
But I don't know.
00:52:21
Speaker
Talk about that window closing.
00:52:23
Speaker
I feel like the Chargers need to make something happen and they need to make something happen soon.
00:52:27
Speaker
But I still have them in second.
00:52:28
Speaker
I think they've got the potential if they can stay healthy.
00:52:32
Speaker
to have a really good year, but we'll see.
00:52:35
Speaker
I'm with you.
00:52:36
Speaker
I also have chargers at third and yeah, Herbert has not won a playoff game yet.
00:52:40
Speaker
They lost to Jacksonville last year.
00:52:41
Speaker
They missed the playoffs two years ago.
00:52:43
Speaker
So with all of the hype and all of those offensive weapons, they have zero playoff wins with that, uh, nucleus.
00:52:49
Speaker
So this is going to be one of the years you better put all your money on the table and you better make it happen.
00:52:54
Speaker
There's going to be some changes in, uh,
00:52:57
Speaker
LA and I don't think they're going to be good changes spoiler alert so I agree Chargers at two and I'll just swing up to number one obviously we both agree that it's going to be the Super Bowl reigning champs the Kansas City Chiefs you got Mahomes you got Kelsey whatever else you have doesn't really matter if you got those two you're going to be one of the best teams in the NFL I think once again they're going to be one of the best teams in the NFL especially with two bottom feeders now with LA sorry not with LA with Las Vegas and Denver they're just going to get stronger it's not a very
00:53:27
Speaker
very scary division anymore.
00:53:28
Speaker
I think they're going to roll to another division title and I think they're going to be as good as ever per usual.
00:53:34
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, couldn't agree more.
00:53:37
Speaker
It is funny, just like we were talking about the divisions and how they shift.
00:53:41
Speaker
Last year, I remember having this same conversation and we thought that was the division to beat of all divisions.
00:53:48
Speaker
And as it shakes out, there's really not as much competition for them in that division anymore.
00:53:53
Speaker
I think they're going to handedly win that one
00:53:57
Speaker
And I was eating my own words thinking that they were going to decline after getting rid of Hill.
00:54:01
Speaker
And they clearly did not.
00:54:03
Speaker
Mahomes laughed and has a ring to prove it.
00:54:06
Speaker
That's right.
00:54:07
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:08
Speaker
But I agree.
00:54:10
Speaker
I think that all sounds great for the AFC West.
00:54:14
Speaker
And that wraps up the AFC West.
00:54:15
Speaker
So before we move into the NFC North, I know one thing everybody has been waiting for for over 100 days.
00:54:23
Speaker
What is the Making Waves advertisement?
00:54:26
Speaker
So yes, we're at 54 minutes, but we always have time for good advertisement.
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00:54:34
Speaker
Oh my God, I can't believe I didn't prepare for this at all.
00:54:37
Speaker
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00:54:37
Speaker
This is so much pressure.
00:54:39
Speaker
Frick.
00:54:40
Speaker
And I will just narrate for everybody.
00:54:42
Speaker
He is actively looking around the room trying to find some sort of product to utilize for his advertisement.
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Speaker
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Thank you, Tostitos.
00:55:26
Speaker
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Speaker
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00:55:31
Speaker
That's like a country song, right?
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Speaker
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00:55:35
Speaker
Are we going to get sued for that?
00:55:36
Speaker
Can we do the copyright?
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I'll put it in the notes for this episode that we do not own the rights to any of the music or advertisements.
00:55:44
Speaker
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Speaker
My hands are just clammy over here from that.
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Speaker
I hate it.
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Speaker
It's totally stressful, but you did a great job.
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00:55:58
Speaker
55 minutes, but we can still do an ad like Max said.
00:56:02
Speaker
Hey, happy to do it.
00:56:03
Speaker
I wouldn't have offered it had I known you were going to take a minute to look around your apartment, though.
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Speaker
I just cleaned.
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I needed to find something, and thank God for the Tostitos up there.
00:56:12
Speaker
All right.
00:56:13
Speaker
Moving into the division we've all been waiting for, the NFC.
00:56:23
Speaker
Starting in fourth place in the NFC North.
00:56:27
Speaker
Are you going first?
00:56:28
Speaker
Yeah, you can go ahead.
00:56:29
Speaker
Go ahead.
00:56:30
Speaker
Okay.
00:56:30
Speaker
Sorry, what were you going to say?
00:56:32
Speaker
I was going to start.
00:56:33
Speaker
Oh, start.
00:56:34
Speaker
All you.
00:56:34
Speaker
Sorry.
00:56:34
Speaker
Ladies first.
00:56:35
Speaker
Well, you kind of took the wind out of my sails there, but I was going to say starting in fourth place, the moment we've all been waiting for, folks.
00:56:45
Speaker
The team we've wanted to bump to fourth in, oh, I don't know, 30 years my entire life.
00:56:54
Speaker
The team I've wanted to put fourth place in the rankings.
00:56:57
Speaker
I think it will finally come true.
00:57:00
Speaker
The Chicago, just kidding, the Green Bay Packers.
00:57:05
Speaker
I'm over here celebrating.
00:57:06
Speaker
I scared you.
00:57:07
Speaker
So glad that worked.
00:57:09
Speaker
What the hell?
00:57:10
Speaker
The Green Bay Packers obviously lost their biggest weapon of all time that they have arguably ever had in Aaron Ryder's, sorry Brett Favre,
00:57:21
Speaker
Yeah, they lost their quarterback, obviously, this past season.
00:57:24
Speaker
We've already talked about him moving over to the Jets.
00:57:26
Speaker
Jordan Love, what we saw of him last year.
00:57:28
Speaker
I mean, yes, he had the offseason now at this point.
00:57:31
Speaker
I think there's a potential that he'll do better than what he did last year.
00:57:35
Speaker
Ultimately, though, it's a young team.
00:57:37
Speaker
I think they have a long way to go.
00:57:39
Speaker
I think the Packers are coming in last this year in the NFC North.
00:57:44
Speaker
I completely agree.
00:57:45
Speaker
And how sweet it is to rate one through four and have Packers and feel confident about it, not be just an optimistic classic J hole.
00:57:55
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know.
00:57:57
Speaker
I was going to say Jack Arse and I didn't want to swear.
00:58:00
Speaker
So let's go with J-hole.
00:58:01
Speaker
Because I'm so excited that we have the Packers in last.
00:58:06
Speaker
And I agree.
00:58:07
Speaker
I think this is going to be reality.
00:58:10
Speaker
And everything that Max said was spot on.
00:58:12
Speaker
No Rodgers.
00:58:13
Speaker
No Lazard.
00:58:15
Speaker
a sketchy defense of much improved rest of the division.
00:58:19
Speaker
And yeah, I'm going to save time for the, uh, the next three, but I have Packers going forth as well.
00:58:24
Speaker
And I couldn't be happier about it.
00:58:27
Speaker
All right.
00:58:27
Speaker
What you got for third snake it on up.
00:58:29
Speaker
Oh, no, you started, you can go three.
00:58:31
Speaker
I'd love to hear what you have for three first.
00:58:33
Speaker
Well, I thought we were snaking.
00:58:35
Speaker
Okay.
00:58:36
Speaker
This is not going to go over well.
00:58:37
Speaker
And please let me know who you're going to pick.
00:58:40
Speaker
And I'm sure you already know who I'm going to pick.
00:58:41
Speaker
So,
00:58:42
Speaker
Oh, okay.
00:58:43
Speaker
Well, I guess that we're in the same boat.
00:58:45
Speaker
We're probably both going Lions 3 here.
00:58:46
Speaker
But yeah, this team in third.
00:58:48
Speaker
There's no way.
00:58:50
Speaker
This team in third had a really improved... Oh my god, wait.
00:58:55
Speaker
Now I'm kind of scared.
00:58:58
Speaker
This team was really... Are you kidding me?
00:59:01
Speaker
This team was very improved last year and they had an, Oh my God, I'm kind of scared.
00:59:07
Speaker
And they had move my equipment out of the way here.
00:59:11
Speaker
Continue.
00:59:13
Speaker
I am struggling to find my words all the time.
00:59:15
Speaker
And they had an unbelievable end to the season and they took down the mighty Packers and they had a couple of good draft picks, but just based on my expertise and it is expertise, I'm
00:59:27
Speaker
And based on their schedule, and I did go through every team in this division schedule.
00:59:33
Speaker
She is really giving me the stink.
00:59:34
Speaker
I folks, holy smokes.
00:59:36
Speaker
I think the Detroit lions are going to finish in third place.
00:59:42
Speaker
Do I think they're going to have a solid squad?
00:59:44
Speaker
Yes.
00:59:45
Speaker
Do I think they are going to be a team to be reckoned within the division?
00:59:49
Speaker
Yes.
00:59:50
Speaker
Do I think they could make a playoff run?
00:59:53
Speaker
Yes.
00:59:54
Speaker
Wow.
00:59:54
Speaker
Bobby, that was really good way to save your arse.
00:59:57
Speaker
But ultimately, do I think they're going to finish ahead of the Vikings and the bears?
01:00:01
Speaker
No, I think they're going to go nine and eight.
01:00:03
Speaker
Once again is what I have them doing.
01:00:06
Speaker
I have them starting off with a tough game a week from today and I have them finishing in third place.
01:00:11
Speaker
No, no fair changing your rankings.
01:00:15
Speaker
No, I'm not going to, I'm not going to change my rankings.
01:00:18
Speaker
I don't need to change my rankings.
01:00:19
Speaker
I think I might've just lost my job on this podcast.
01:00:22
Speaker
It is interesting.
01:00:23
Speaker
So you're not buying into any hype around them.
01:00:26
Speaker
I think the hype, I'm just surrounded by so many Detroit Lions fans in my life.
01:00:30
Speaker
Obviously, my best friend is a huge Lions fan.
01:00:33
Speaker
I'm in a couple of group chats with Lions fans.
01:00:35
Speaker
I am from Metro Detroit.
01:00:37
Speaker
So all I see is Lions fans.
01:00:39
Speaker
And I've been seeing this stuff for a long time.
01:00:41
Speaker
And yes, I do think this is the best Lions team in recent memory.
01:00:44
Speaker
Don't get me wrong.
01:00:46
Speaker
I think they were the best I've seen them last year in a long time.
01:00:49
Speaker
I just think sometimes the hype distracts from the actual on-field performance.
01:00:56
Speaker
And I think in this case, it might be happening because there's so much hype.
01:01:01
Speaker
Vegas has them as one of the highest odds teams, whatever you call it, to win the NFC.
01:01:08
Speaker
And I think so much is going on.
01:01:09
Speaker
I think it might be a little much.
01:01:10
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:11
Speaker
No, I mean, I certainly think the hype is a lot.
01:01:14
Speaker
And I personally, as a Lions fan, don't necessarily want the hype around them because I think that it would be easy to get distracted by that.
01:01:23
Speaker
I will absolutely have a very strong rebuttal for you about the Lions in, I don't know, three standings from now.
01:01:30
Speaker
But I'll go ahead and give you my third overall, which I also think it's interesting.
01:01:37
Speaker
Sorry, one other rebuttal.
01:01:41
Speaker
You said the Lions are going to get third at 9-8.
01:01:43
Speaker
So what you're predicting is that both the Vikings and the Bears get more than nine wins.
01:01:48
Speaker
You think the Bears are going to jump?
01:01:50
Speaker
Not necessarily.
01:01:50
Speaker
I might have the next team at 9-8 as well, but just with a better head-to-head record.
01:01:55
Speaker
That's what I had in the record, yes.
01:01:57
Speaker
Okay, so you think that the Bears are going to jump from three wins last season to at least nine wins this season?
01:02:07
Speaker
At least nine wins, correct, yes.
01:02:09
Speaker
Oh my God.
01:02:10
Speaker
You're dreaming.
01:02:11
Speaker
You're absolutely dreaming.
01:02:13
Speaker
Is this real life?
01:02:13
Speaker
Am I dreaming?
01:02:14
Speaker
I will say he's dreaming.
01:02:17
Speaker
I wish I could pinch him.
01:02:19
Speaker
Am I dreaming?
01:02:21
Speaker
Interesting.
01:02:21
Speaker
Okay.
01:02:22
Speaker
Anyway, rebuttal coming later.
01:02:23
Speaker
Clearly I'm a little heated.
01:02:24
Speaker
Apologies.
01:02:25
Speaker
Let me get my focus back on third place overall.
01:02:30
Speaker
I do indeed also have the Chicago bears.
01:02:34
Speaker
Okay.
01:02:36
Speaker
Not surprising there.
01:02:37
Speaker
I contemplated them for last.
01:02:39
Speaker
What?
01:02:43
Speaker
I think the reality is, yes, I think they're going to be better this year than last year.
01:02:48
Speaker
Do I think that is a hard bar to make, though?
01:02:53
Speaker
Not necessarily.
01:02:54
Speaker
Yeah, you shouldn't have gone first because now I'm coming in.
01:02:57
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Yeah, this is ridiculous.
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With my dukes up.
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I'm coming in guns blazing.
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Let me cover my neck.
01:03:01
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Jeez.
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I think they will be better than last year.
01:03:06
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They obviously acquired DJ Moore in the offseason.
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I think that was a great acquisition by them.
01:03:11
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They've made some great moves to pull that in.
01:03:14
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I think it's really good to see them building around Justin Fields.
01:03:17
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I think he does have a lot of potential.
01:03:19
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Look, I'm being nice and you're not even paying attention.
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I think he's got a lot of potential as a great scrambling quarterback.
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We really haven't even seen him do much from the pocket.
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So if they can develop that as well, I think that could be a really good option for them.
01:03:34
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Ultimately, though, I will say one note, they got rid of Justin Fields is also the only quarterback on their roster.
01:03:41
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Hopefully they will change that before.
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With the scrambling quarterback, that's, I mean, I think they have one more who's like a brand new rookie that they drafted way late.
01:03:49
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So basically he's the only one.
01:03:50
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That's pretty risky with the scrambling quarterback, especially one with an offensive line like the Chicago Bears had, which is not very good.
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Second, I would say just overall,
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for a team to make that large of a jump, I think drastic things need to change.
01:04:07
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And I think some things changed.
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I don't think drastic things changed.
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Ultimately, that's why I have them third overall.
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They do.
01:04:15
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I will give you this tidbit though.
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And I will give you this as like a somewhat olive branch.
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They have an extremely easy schedule.
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So who knows?
01:04:24
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Maybe they will be able to parlay that into something more.
01:04:27
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Will it turn into anything of substance though?
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Not in my opinion.
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So yeah.
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Well, I take that opinion.
01:04:33
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I crunch it up and I throw it in the trash can.
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I will have a rebuttal once I get to the Bears, but that will be in a couple selections.
01:04:44
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Oh my God, if you pick Bears first overall, you're done.
01:04:48
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Am I at number two right now?
01:04:49
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Am I up?
01:04:50
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I'll go number two, because I mean a snake number two.
01:04:54
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I have a team that did make a lot of interesting trades this off season and not necessarily for the better.
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They got rid of a lot of defensive pieces.
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And they also just traded away.
01:05:06
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It's not a Lions.
01:05:08
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Just a heads up.
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They also traded away Dalvin Cook to the New York Jets, their star running back.
01:05:15
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However, they have a backup running back who I think would be a starting running back on any other team, not behind Dalvin Cook.
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Alexander Madison, I think he's going to be fine there.
01:05:25
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I think Kirk Cousins is a game manager, but I think we've seen that he can win close games.
01:05:30
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This team is still a good structured team.
01:05:33
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They got rid of some pieces on defense.
01:05:35
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They added some.
01:05:36
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Ultimately, I think they're going to decline slightly from last
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year.
01:05:39
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Last year, I believe they won 13 games or something.
01:05:42
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They were all one possession games, though.
01:05:44
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I don't know that they can have all of them tip in their favor this year the same way they did last year.
01:05:50
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So that's why I have them coming in at second overall.
01:05:54
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But I don't think they need to be plummeted to the bottom the way some people are viewing them.
01:05:59
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Okay.
01:06:00
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Very fair assessment.
01:06:01
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I think we're all just waiting for the storm that's going to happen here in about two minutes.
01:06:04
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So I will make this one quick.
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I am with you.
01:06:08
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I think the Vikings are going to finish.
01:06:09
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Oh my.
01:06:12
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Is everything okay with her?
01:06:14
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Did Summit just poop in the house?
01:06:17
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No.
01:06:17
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Is everything okay?
01:06:18
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Okay.
01:06:19
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Your reaction was so crazy.
01:06:20
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I thought that something must have happened.
01:06:22
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I think I pooped my pants at who you think is going to go first overall.
01:06:26
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Oh, my God.
01:06:26
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I got to text Nick and tell her that you just pooped your pants.
01:06:29
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Yeah, tell her to get in here.
01:06:31
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Clean up.
01:06:32
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Clean up on aisle three.
01:06:34
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Trying to reel it in because Matt just pooped her pants over there for no reason.
01:06:38
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At a very, very reasonable.
01:06:39
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It's not for no reason.
01:06:41
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It's for the fact that you actually think the Bears have a chance at first overall.
01:06:45
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Pfft!
01:06:47
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Okay, I can literally feel that spit through the mic.
01:06:49
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Thank you so much for that.
01:06:51
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And I can't wait to tell you exactly why.
01:06:53
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And I can't wait for us to be here in January.
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And I am going to be on top of the world.
01:07:01
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But we'll just leave it at this.
01:07:02
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Vikings, meh, meh.
01:07:04
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I think they're going to go 9-8 just like the Lions.
01:07:07
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Like you said, they're going to lose some of the one-score games.
01:07:09
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They lost Thielen.
01:07:11
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They lost Dalvin.
01:07:12
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They got J. Jeff.
01:07:13
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They got Kirk.
01:07:15
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They got Madison.
01:07:16
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So they got pieces.
01:07:16
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They got a hard schedule.
01:07:17
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So all that to say, I think they're going to be a little better than 500, but they're not going to be quite as good as the team that I have going first in the division.
01:07:25
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So yeah, Vikings second place.
01:07:27
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Let me wet my whistle here for this.
01:07:29
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You're obviously going Bears first.
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So I'd be really curious to hear why.
01:07:37
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Drum roll, please.
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In first place in the NFC North, a classic last to first story.
01:07:45
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Cinderella, did the slipper fit?
01:07:47
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Yes, it does.
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The Chicago Bears, from three wins to 10, and I said in parentheses, or 11, based off our schedule.
01:08:00
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You're a sick human being, you know that?
01:08:02
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Oh, I'm healthy.
01:08:03
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I am healthy as a horse.
01:08:04
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No, you're sick.
01:08:06
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I'm healthy as a horse and I'm happy.
01:08:09
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I am optimistic.
01:08:11
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I'm glass half full.
01:08:13
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This bear seems got it all.
01:08:15
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They got the young proven quarterback.
01:08:17
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They got two.
01:08:20
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Absolutely.
01:08:21
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Okay.
01:08:22
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Continue.
01:08:23
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Jeez.
01:08:23
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Am I going to be able to talk over here?
01:08:25
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Sorry.
01:08:25
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Sorry.
01:08:26
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Sorry.
01:08:26
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Yep.
01:08:26
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I'm going to let you talk.
01:08:27
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Cause we got to move along.
01:08:28
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Thank you so much.
01:08:29
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They got the proven quarterback.
01:08:31
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Like I said, yes.
01:08:31
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Proven.
01:08:32
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They've got two really solid running backs.
01:08:36
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Solid, solid running backs.
01:08:39
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Khalil Herbert.
01:08:40
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Excuse me.
01:08:40
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I'm so excited.
01:08:41
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I can't even talk.
01:08:43
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Khalil Herbert and Donta Freeman or Donta Foreman.
01:08:46
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Sorry.
01:08:48
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They have a number one wide receiver, which I think is going to be good for not only DJ and Justin, but it's going to... Oh, she's not even paying attention.
01:08:55
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She's looking at her phone.
01:08:57
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Not only for DJ Moore, it's going to be great for Cole Komet.
01:09:01
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It's going to be great for Darnell Mooney, who now is slotted to a two.
01:09:04
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I don't think he was ever a one guy.
01:09:05
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And then Chase Claypool.
01:09:07
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He is a wide receiver three.
01:09:08
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He's finally in the correct spot.
01:09:10
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He's not a number two guy.
01:09:11
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He's going to flourish.
01:09:13
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Not to mention, we have an offensive line.
01:09:15
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We picked...
01:09:16
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Picked a stud out of Tennessee.
01:09:18
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We got a couple bolstered pieces.
01:09:20
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We got a couple linebackers.
01:09:22
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Really easy schedule.
01:09:23
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Much better defense.
01:09:25
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Justin Fields with another year under his belt.
01:09:27
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A number one wide receiver.
01:09:29
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I mean, the sky's the limit.
01:09:33
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My heart is pumping.
01:09:35
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My expectations are high, and I am just a happy, pappy.
01:09:39
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Bears winning the division.
01:09:40
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You heard it here first.
01:09:41
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Wave Riders, if you don't want to listen to the podcast anymore, see ya.
01:09:46
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Okay, I'm
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about to sign off right now.
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See ya.
01:09:50
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You're going to run this the rest of the way by yourself.
01:09:53
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Okay, that's a really interesting and hot take.
01:09:57
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I'm not going to spend too much time on a rebuttal because I'm just going to use your words against you later in this season when the Bears are not doing well.
01:10:04
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Why is she laughing?
01:10:05
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What is happening?
01:10:07
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I think that's absolutely crazy.
01:10:09
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I thought we were coming into this season, you know, really with our heads on right, thinking about, you know, okay, let's give the Bears, yeah, maybe they'll fight for second.
01:10:17
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Who knows?
01:10:17
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But first, never in my wildest dreams.
01:10:20
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Let me check the screws.
01:10:21
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I'm screwed on.
01:10:22
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Top of Kilimanjaro.
01:10:23
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They're loose.
01:10:24
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Topic Kilimanjaro, it hit me.
01:10:26
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Bears are winning the division.
01:10:27
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I saw it in the clouds.
01:10:28
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Boom.
01:10:28
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Had to bring it back with me.
01:10:29
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Topic Kilimanjaro, I think you still have oxygen deficit in your head because you think that the Bears are going to win.
01:10:36
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That was unnecessary.
01:10:37
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That was unnecessary.
01:10:38
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But it was funny because you laughed.
01:10:40
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I'm not laughing.
01:10:41
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I'm crying.
01:10:44
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Anyway, I'll give you my arguments for the NFC North.
01:10:48
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Obviously, in my opinion, coming in first place, I have the Detroit Lions.
01:10:54
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You're a sicko.
01:10:55
Speaker
You're sick.
01:10:57
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You're a sicko.
01:10:58
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You're a sicko.
01:11:00
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You're disgusting.
01:11:04
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That's crazy talk.
01:11:06
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You're a sicko.
01:11:09
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You, you.
01:11:10
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Oh, yeah.
01:11:10
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I'll let you have the mic, but that's crazy.
01:11:12
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Okay.
01:11:14
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The reason.
01:11:17
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Sorry, that really got me.
01:11:18
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It came out and over.
01:11:19
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You're a single.
01:11:20
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Yeah, because you are.
01:11:24
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Okay, the reason I have the Lions winning this one, obviously, which you've already even said, last year they were much improved.
01:11:32
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The end of the season for them, they really took off as a team.
01:11:37
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We started out slow.
01:11:38
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We took off towards the end of the season.
01:11:40
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We have now had a whole offseason to build on that, and we have added –
01:11:44
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key pieces.
01:11:45
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And we haven't lost key pieces.
01:11:48
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We lost, yes, DeAndre Swift and Jamal Williams in the running back, but we then picked up two solid running backs, David Montgomery from the Chicago Bears, who's kind of like a ground and pound, similar to a Jamal Williams type, like he's going to get the short yardage.
01:12:01
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And then we picked up Jameer Gibbs as the rookie from the draft, who is more of an explosive runner, which is what we hoped from DeAndre Swift.
01:12:10
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So
01:12:10
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I think that complimentary backfield is still going to do the same thing we needed to do.
01:12:15
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We have one of the top offensive lines in the entire NFL in our lacking area all last year.
01:12:22
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I think anybody would argue was defense.
01:12:25
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We filled in a lot of those pieces through free agency.
01:12:29
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We picked up, who was it, Mosley from the 49ers.
01:12:33
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We picked up
01:12:34
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Gardner Johnson from the Eagles.
01:12:36
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We picked up some really key pieces that we were missing on defense.
01:12:41
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And I think that is only going to propel us forward to a higher record than what we had last year.
01:12:46
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I think we absolutely have playoff hopes.
01:12:48
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I'm not getting crazy.
01:12:50
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People are sniffing and saying Super Bowl.
01:12:52
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I do not believe that.
01:12:54
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I truly don't.
01:12:55
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Unfortunately, I want to believe that for the Lions.
01:12:57
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But I think that we may have a chance to win our first ever playoff game in my lifetime this year.
01:13:04
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This is probably your lifetime.
01:13:05
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No, it has never happened in my lifetime.
01:13:08
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I think, yeah, you're laughing.
01:13:09
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You're a sicko.
01:13:10
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No, I'm just sorry.
01:13:13
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In my lifetime.
01:13:14
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I think this opportunity, the roster that we have put together this year, the coaching staff that we have, we still have Ben Johnson, such a creative offensive coordinator, met his sister, actually, believe it or not, down in Nashville, North Carolina.
01:13:27
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Shout out.
01:13:28
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I don't know your name, but I met you.
01:13:31
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And, um,
01:13:32
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I don't know.
01:13:33
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I think ultimately we've got a great opportunity here this season.
01:13:36
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And I really am hopeful that I'm not going to get my soul crushed because I think this would be the most soul crushing year for me as a Lions fan.
01:13:46
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If things do not shake out the way that I hope they will.
01:13:49
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And folks, let me tell you, that is saying a lot because that bar is pretty high.
01:13:55
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Question, do you think that the Lions have a legitimate chance to beat the Chiefs one week from today?
01:13:59
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They will be playing one week from right now.
01:14:01
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Kickoff will have happened.
01:14:02
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Will the
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Lions stand a chance in Kansas City?
01:14:05
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Let's see if he's thinking straight.
01:14:07
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I will say I do not think they're going to win, but I do not.
01:14:10
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I think they're going to put up a fight.
01:14:13
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I'm not going to be crazy, though.
01:14:14
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It's the Chiefs.
01:14:16
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Okay, that's a tough first game.
01:14:18
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If we come out and win that game, though, you are in for a rough season, my friend.
01:14:23
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If y'all beat the Chiefs, week one, I'm going to have to lose my phone for a couple weeks.
01:14:27
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We'll just say that.
01:14:28
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I have a feeling.
01:14:30
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Wow.
01:14:30
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Well, that was... That was a heated one.
01:14:33
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That was about 15 minutes long.
01:14:34
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That was up to the expectations.
01:14:36
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We'll see what happens.
01:14:37
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We are going to make some crazy bets.
01:14:39
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We're going to be very creative with it this season, and it's going to be fun, y'all.
01:14:44
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So even if I...
01:14:46
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Scared you off or Mac did.
01:14:48
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Stay tuned this year because it's going to be good.
01:14:50
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With that being said, let's super speed the other three because we just have to do it.
01:14:53
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Sounds good.
01:14:54
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We already ate dessert.
01:14:55
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So let's just super speed it.
01:14:55
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Yeah, and I'll say with all these bets, I can't wait to make you eat so much stuff on this podcast, and I'm also going to make you eat your words from what you said about the Bears.
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Moving right along to the NFC.
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You're a sicko.
01:15:08
Speaker
You're a sicko.
01:15:09
Speaker
Moving right along.
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NFC South.
01:15:12
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This one is –
01:15:15
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I think maybe the worst division in the entire NFL.
01:15:18
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I would buy that.
01:15:19
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I would buy that.
01:15:20
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One of maybe.
01:15:21
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I don't know.
01:15:23
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In fourth place, I have in my own current home state, the Carolina Panthers coming in fourth.
01:15:31
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I just don't think they're a very well put together team.
01:15:33
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Obviously, they picked up Bryce Young, the first overall pick this year that they traded from the Chicago Bears with DJ Moore, that whole thing that shook out.
01:15:42
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But I don't know.
01:15:43
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I just don't see that making such a leap.
01:15:45
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I also, just to echo my point earlier, rookies coming in the NFL, sometimes they make an absolute splash, but I think
01:15:52
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more often than not, they have a tough learning curve ahead of them.
01:15:56
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And I think the Panthers are in for that this year.
01:15:59
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Okay.
01:16:00
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Sorry about that, North Carolina.
01:16:01
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I actually have the Atlanta Falcons finishing fourth.
01:16:05
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I just don't think they have many pieces.
01:16:07
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Drake London's their number one target.
01:16:08
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I don't know if that's sustainable.
01:16:11
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Ritter's their quarterback.
01:16:12
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He's never proven to be anything special.
01:16:14
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They do have B. John Robinson, who I think is going to be a super exciting first year back.
01:16:18
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So I'm excited to see how he does.
01:16:20
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But I just think the Falcons are going to be one of the worst teams in the NFL.
01:16:24
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Sorry, Hotlanta, but I have them fourth.
01:16:27
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Going up to number three, I am taking a page out of Max Book, her home state.
01:16:31
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The Panthers, I agree that I don't think they're going to be very good.
01:16:35
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I think Bryce Young is going to be okay.
01:16:37
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I think Thielen is going to be a good addition, as well as Sanders from Philly as a running back.
01:16:43
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So they did kind of piece together a somewhat okay-looking team.
01:16:47
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But the Bears have their number one pick next year, so I'm going to be rooting against them all year, hoping they're going to have a top five pick.
01:16:53
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But, yeah, I have the Panthers at number three.
01:16:57
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Okay, interesting.
01:17:00
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That's interesting what you said about your fourth pick.
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But for number three, I have the Tampa Bay Bucs at number three.
01:17:11
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They lost, I know, this one we're a little bit off here.
01:17:13
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Oh my God.
01:17:14
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The reason being, they lost...
01:17:17
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Obviously, Tom Brady, the GOAT, and they just named Baker Mayfield as their starting quarterback.
01:17:23
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And I don't know.
01:17:24
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I think the Bucs are going to plummet this year, and I actually have them at third.
01:17:28
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So that's why I said it's interesting about your fourth pick there.
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Okay.
01:17:31
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Who do you have in second?
01:17:34
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Second place, I have your fourth pick.
01:17:37
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I have the Atlanta Falcons in second place.
01:17:39
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I get what you're saying.
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I think with the pickup of Bijan Robinson, I think that's going to help them a lot.
01:17:45
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I think they have a pretty easy schedule heading into it.
01:17:49
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NFC South, in my head, in general, is not competitive.
01:17:52
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I think if Desmond Ritter can play well, I think Drake London is going to propel forward this year.
01:17:57
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He did a great job.
01:17:58
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Kyle Pitts as well.
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I think he's going to propel forward.
01:18:00
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I think if Desmond Ritter can get it together a little bit, I think the Falcons actually have a good chance at overall winning the South, but we'll see.
01:18:08
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Yeah.
01:18:09
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Okay.
01:18:09
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And yeah, you, you said Tom Brady's not playing.
01:18:11
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Is that real?
01:18:11
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Because if that's a good, I need to switch things up.
01:18:15
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No, all jokes aside, we don't have time for that.
01:18:17
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I got the Bucs at number two, which means we both have the Saints at number one.
01:18:21
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I think Baker is going to have a little bit of a redemption season.
01:18:24
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They still have Mike Evans.
01:18:25
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They still have Chris Godwin.
01:18:26
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They still have Leonard Fournette.
01:18:27
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They still have a lot of guys that won the Superbowl, you know, just a couple of years ago.
01:18:31
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So they still have a lot of good pieces and a solid defense.
01:18:34
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It all depends on how Baker plays this season, but the Bucs, like I said, still have a lot of good pieces from that Super Bowl team.
01:18:40
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So I have them at number two.
01:18:41
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And that brings me to my first place team, the Saints.
01:18:44
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They've had a couple of years off since Drew Brees, one of Mac's favorite fellas, retired.
01:18:49
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But I think now that the Jameis era is done in New Orleans,
01:18:52
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I think Derek Carr is going to be a really good fit in New Orleans.
01:18:58
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They have Michael Thomas, who's going to be healthy.
01:19:00
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They've got Kamara, who I think is going to be healthy.
01:19:02
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And they've got a really good defense that always is really good.
01:19:07
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So I think they're going to be a sneaky, good team in the NFC.
01:19:11
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And I think New Orleans is going to head back to the playoffs for the first time in a few years.
01:19:16
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Yeah, no, I totally agree.
01:19:18
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I think Carr's going to do a good job there.
01:19:20
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I mean, Kamara, he does have a couple games suspension.
01:19:23
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I think they'll be able to hold it down okay, though.
01:19:25
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They did pick up Jamal, my boy.
01:19:26
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I love him.
01:19:28
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And obviously, he led the league in rushing touchdowns last year, so maybe he'll continue that down there for the Saints.
01:19:35
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And yeah, I think it'll be exciting to see them at the top of the division
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01:19:39
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this year as well.
01:19:41
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I would have to agree.
01:19:42
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Moving along, are we going east or west here?
01:19:45
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Let's go NFC East.
01:19:48
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Shout out Big T. We're going NFC East, baby.
01:19:50
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Shout out Big T. Shout out Eli.
01:19:53
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Shout out Eli.
01:19:53
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Oh my God, Eli.
01:19:54
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I'm so sorry.
01:19:55
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Father Eli.
01:19:58
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Do you want me to start at the basement?
01:19:59
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You want to start at the basement?
01:20:01
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Go ahead.
01:20:01
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Take it away.
01:20:02
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Speaking of Eli, whoopsies.
01:20:04
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Oh, no.
01:20:04
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I've got NYG, the New York football giants.
01:20:08
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I know they made the playoffs last year.
01:20:10
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I know Dana Jones.
01:20:12
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Oh, no.
01:20:12
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I know.
01:20:12
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I'm so sorry.
01:20:13
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I know they made the playoffs.
01:20:14
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I know Shaquan had a good year.
01:20:15
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I know Dana Jones wasn't terrible.
01:20:17
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I know some of their receivers stepped up.
01:20:20
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I just don't see it this year.
01:20:22
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They have the Eagles and Cowboys to worry about.
01:20:25
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Commanders are much improved.
01:20:26
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And I just don't trust Daniel Jones as far as I can throw him, which I probably can't throw him more than a foot.
01:20:33
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John don't trust him at all.
01:20:34
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I just don't think the Giants are going to be good.
01:20:36
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I was looking at their schedule.
01:20:37
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It's hard.
01:20:37
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So I got the Giants finishing in the musty basement.
01:20:40
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Sorry.
01:20:41
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Sorry.
01:20:42
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All right.
01:20:42
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Eli, I gave you a little more respect than that.
01:20:45
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I have the Commanders coming in at fourth.
01:20:50
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This is, I should know this.
01:20:51
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Who's the commander's quarterback?
01:20:54
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Oh gosh, you're putting me on the spot here.
01:20:56
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I wasn't prepared.
01:20:57
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It's not Heineke anymore, is it?
01:20:59
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Yeah, it's not Heineke anymore.
01:21:00
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I don't see.
01:21:01
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I don't even know.
01:21:02
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Let me, I'm going to look up the roster while I'm talking.
01:21:05
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But ultimately I think the reality is that, oh, Jake Fromm.
01:21:11
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Oh, and they picked up Sam Howell in the draft.
01:21:14
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Can I change my page?
01:21:16
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So anyways, fourth place in the NFC East is absolutely the commanders, in my opinion.
01:21:21
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Dang it.
01:21:22
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For that exact reason, we literally didn't even know who the quarterback was.
01:21:27
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Moving on up, I honestly did contemplate between the Cowboys and the Giants, I will say, for third, mostly because I think the Cowboys choke a lot.
01:21:36
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There's usually a lot of injuries, and coaching does play a role.
01:21:40
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And I just do not think that – what's his name from Green Bay?
01:21:46
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Mike McCarthy.
01:21:47
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Mike McCarthy.
01:21:47
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I just don't think he's a very good quarterback.
01:21:49
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They've obviously had a lot of issues with keeping track of time, timeouts, things the Cowboys that have really done them in.
01:21:57
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But ultimately, I moved them up to second and have the Giants at third just because of the Cowboys defense.
01:22:07
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So I know I kind of did a twofer there, but I do have the Giants at third.
01:22:11
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I'm really sorry, Eli, but I think they're going to do OK.
01:22:14
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They picked up Darren Waller.
01:22:15
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They've still got some targets.
01:22:16
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I just worry about them.
01:22:17
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They don't really have much else beyond Saquon and...
01:22:22
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Yeah, I don't know.
01:22:24
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I don't know any of their receivers.
01:22:25
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So, unfortunately, I've got to stick to my words here.
01:22:29
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I've got commanders at three.
01:22:30
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They've got some really good quarterbacks on their team.
01:22:33
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:22:34
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Who we just talked about.
01:22:35
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They do have a good defense, and they've got McLaurin, and they've got a couple good running backs in Gibson and Robinson.
01:22:41
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So, I think they can be solid.
01:22:43
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They had a pretty good end of the year, and I really like their coach, Rivera.
01:22:46
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So, that's why I had them three.
01:22:47
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So, I do have my reasons.
01:22:49
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But, yeah, at two –
01:22:51
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This was not too tough just because, like you said, the Cowboys always find a way to choke.
01:22:56
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And the Eagles, I think, are maybe the best team in the NFL.
01:22:59
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Shout out, Big T. Let's go.
01:23:02
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But I got Cowboys at two.
01:23:04
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Dak is a good regular season quarterback, so they're going to find a way to win double-digit games.
01:23:08
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They're going to find a way into the playoffs like they always do.
01:23:10
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And then like Mac was just alluding to great word again.
01:23:13
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They're going to find some crazy way to lose.
01:23:16
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It's going to be super embarrassing.
01:23:17
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It's going to be hilarious and we're all going to love to watch it, but Oh geez, I'm making enemies too.
01:23:22
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Dallas number two.
01:23:23
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Okay.
01:23:24
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Yeah, totally agree.
01:23:26
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Also have Dallas at two.
01:23:27
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I think their defense is going to save them from a lot of mistakes that maybe the offense makes.
01:23:33
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But they do still have some really good weapons on offense.
01:23:36
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I think Dak can get it together.
01:23:37
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I don't know.
01:23:39
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I think they definitely do have potential.
01:23:41
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But I never buy into the big Cowboys, America's team hype.
01:23:45
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Yeah.
01:23:46
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We'll see what happens with them.
01:23:48
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But obviously, as you said, we both saved the Eagles for number one.
01:23:53
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They did lose a little bit of a heartbreaker there in the Super Bowl last year, but I think they're going to have no problem getting pretty far yet again.
01:24:00
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They also have a pretty easy schedule for a very strong contending team.
01:24:06
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So I think the Eagles are going to have no problem getting back to the playoffs and making a bit of a deep push there.
01:24:12
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I agree.
01:24:12
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Nothing to add.
01:24:13
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Jalen Hurts, MVP frontrunner, I think, to start the season.
01:24:16
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They're deep.
01:24:17
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Their defense is unbelievable.
01:24:20
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And head to the last division.
01:24:22
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Let's head out west.
01:24:23
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The gold rush, baby.
01:24:24
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NFC West.
01:24:25
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Heading out West, kind of another not very competitive, maybe with two teams, but surprising teams, maybe.
01:24:33
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We'll see.
01:24:34
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Fourth, and this is my bet for arguably the worst team in the entire NFL, and fourth coming out here.
01:24:42
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Sorry if you're an Arizona fan, but I think the Cardinals are going to struggle.
01:24:47
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Kyler Murray's not starting.
01:24:48
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They just got rid of Colt McCoy.
01:24:49
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They just dropped him when they brought the roster down to 53.
01:24:53
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He was their guy that they went to when Kyler was out.
01:24:57
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I don't know.
01:24:57
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They're obviously trusting a rookie maybe out there while Kyler is absent due to injury.
01:25:04
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So I just, I don't know.
01:25:06
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The Cardinals, it's unfortunate for them, but I don't see them making any
01:25:11
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big splashes this year in their division or really against any team.
01:25:17
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I would have to agree.
01:25:17
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Mac just obliterated the bridge with us and all Arizona fans.
01:25:20
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So now I'm going to get completely destroy it.
01:25:25
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Yeah.
01:25:25
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I think the Cardinals are the worst team in the NFL.
01:25:28
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they got nothing to be excited about.
01:25:30
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No offense to them.
01:25:31
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They had James Connor.
01:25:32
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Who's kind of an older running back.
01:25:33
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I don't even know if I can name a single player other than him on their offense.
01:25:37
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So yeah, they're just playing bad.
01:25:38
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And I think they're going to be really, really bad.
01:25:40
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I think they might win two or three games moving on.
01:25:42
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Sorry, Arizona.
01:25:45
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A couple of years removed from winning the super bowl.
01:25:47
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And now the Rams are, uh,
01:25:50
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a team that I think is also going to be pretty bad.
01:25:53
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They still got Max Boy staff.
01:25:54
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He's got his ring.
01:25:55
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They still got cup.
01:25:56
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They still got Aaron Donald.
01:25:57
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So they still got some pieces, but all those pieces are getting old and they kind of sold their soul to get Odell Beckham for that Superbowl run, which obviously it paid off.
01:26:07
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They got their ring, but they gave up a lot of draft capital for those guys.
01:26:12
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And they're just an aging kind of team.
01:26:14
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So,
01:26:15
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They got their goal.
01:26:16
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They got the ring.
01:26:17
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But I think they're going to be pretty piss poor, excuse my French, this year.
01:26:21
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So I got them at number three.
01:26:22
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Yeah, sadly, I have to agree.
01:26:24
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They were arguably one of the biggest disappointments last year.
01:26:27
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There were a lot of injuries.
01:26:28
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Cup was hurt.
01:26:29
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Staff was hurt.
01:26:31
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So I think they'll do better than they did last year.
01:26:33
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But ultimately, I just don't know that they're a competitive team at this point.
01:26:38
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I'm happy for them that they won the Super Bowl, though.
01:26:40
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And they can take that money all the way to the bank, baby.
01:26:44
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Take it to the bank, baby.
01:26:46
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So second place, it looks like I think we're going to go four for four to end on a high note here.
01:26:51
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Second place I have out in Seattle, Geno refused to write back, still not writing back Smith.
01:27:00
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Obviously turned a lot of heads last year and made a lot of people take notice of the fact that he was ready to run that team.
01:27:07
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I think the Seahawks are going to have an okay time.
01:27:10
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I think they might decline a little bit.
01:27:11
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I think we're maybe have an understanding now a little bit of them.
01:27:15
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I think Gino was a huge surprise coming out of last year.
01:27:18
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So people maybe didn't know how to handle it.
01:27:20
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But I think that in the division that they're in, I think that they'll be able to take second place.
01:27:26
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And they're turning into be a little bit of the Lions rival because they knocked us out of the playoffs a couple of years ago in the first round.
01:27:34
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And then last year, just by their win against the Rams, they knocked us out of the playoffs as well.
01:27:39
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So...
01:27:40
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We're just going to have to beat up on Seahawks this year.
01:27:43
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But then so classy by the Lions to beat the Packers and actually let the Seahawks into the playoffs.
01:27:48
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I know.
01:27:48
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I know.
01:27:49
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Absolutely.
01:27:50
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Yeah.
01:27:50
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We're nice and they're not.
01:27:52
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So.
01:27:52
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Sounds like a one way.
01:27:53
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That's what it boils down to.
01:27:54
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Sounds like a one way friendship.
01:27:55
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So Seattle might have it coming this year.
01:27:57
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Yeah.
01:27:58
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Feels a little parasitic to me.
01:27:59
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Like they're sucking all our blood.
01:28:01
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They're just sucking the blood of the lions.
01:28:02
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That's not fair.
01:28:03
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We don't like that.
01:28:04
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My attic relationship, if you know what I mean.
01:28:06
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All these words.
01:28:07
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Did you just take a freaking biology class or something?
01:28:09
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Excuse me, let me put my dictionary down.
01:28:12
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She got the biology F1O book open there.
01:28:15
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F1O, what the hell is that?
01:28:16
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But yeah, just throwing out all the terms.
01:28:19
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No, I agree with what Max said.
01:28:21
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I think Seattle's going to get second.
01:28:22
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Geno didn't write back.
01:28:23
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He got a huge check because of it.
01:28:25
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$100 million to the bank.
01:28:26
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Good
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01:28:27
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for him.
01:28:28
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I do think that offense is pretty solid.
01:28:30
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I think they are going to, once again, be in position to maybe snag a wild card spot.
01:28:35
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But yeah, I got them at second, which...
01:28:38
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Obviously means that we agree that the 49ers are going to win the division.
01:28:41
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I think they could absolutely make a run.
01:28:44
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Brock Purdy, Mr. Irrelevant.
01:28:46
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They just traded Trey Lance.
01:28:49
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They're trusting in Mr. Irrelevant.
01:28:50
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Shouts out to him.
01:28:51
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They really are.
01:28:52
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He's a starter, which is amazing from last pick in the draft to starting in the playoffs to being the opening day starter his second year.
01:29:01
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What a 365 days it's been for Brock.
01:29:05
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But yeah, I mean, they got the defense.
01:29:07
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They got the offensive weapons, McCaffrey, Debo.
01:29:10
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They got Bosa on the other side of the ball.
01:29:11
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They are stacked.
01:29:12
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And I think the world is their oyster.
01:29:15
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And yeah, they should have Super Bowl aspirations.
01:29:17
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So I got San Fran number one.
01:29:20
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And I know you do as well.
01:29:22
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Yes, I do.
01:29:23
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I'm really hoping Brock comes back okay after that elbow injury that he suffered last year in the playoffs against the Eagles.
01:29:30
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Obviously, like you said, they're trusting in him.
01:29:32
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These coaches seeing him day in and day out, so they obviously see something that happens.
01:29:37
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We don't always get to see, so they must like what they see in his healing and recovery there.
01:29:42
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And I'm hopeful that Brock can come out again and lead this team pretty far.
01:29:46
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I will say I've got the game circled against the Eagles.
01:29:50
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I'll be interested to see.
01:29:51
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I've been I listen to some different NFL podcasts or shows or whatever.
01:29:57
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I know not just ours, believe it or not.
01:29:59
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And some of the reporters were talking about how the 49ers are already talking smack about the Eagles game, how it would have went different if not everybody was hurt.
01:30:08
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Because if you'll remember, they had like Christian McCaffrey out there throwing the ball.
01:30:11
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They had Brock out there throwing it left handed.
01:30:13
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It was it was not a good game, to say the least, on the 49ers side with injuries.
01:30:19
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So they're already talking some smack about how much that game would have been different.
01:30:23
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So I've got that one circled.
01:30:25
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I think it's like week 14 or 15, early December.
01:30:28
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I think that's going to be a fun one to watch later on in a battle for arguably the two best teams in the NFC.
01:30:34
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Happy holidays to us a couple weeks early, it sounds like.
01:30:37
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Definitely going to circle that one as well.
01:30:38
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So, yeah, that marks the end.
01:30:40
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Am I the host all of a sudden?
01:30:41
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What the heck?
01:30:42
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You are.
01:30:42
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That marks the end of our predictions.
01:30:44
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And now I think the last thing that we need to do is just our AFC champ, NFC champ, and our Super Bowl champ.
01:30:49
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And then we're outie.
01:30:51
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Just looks like we're at about 41 minutes.
01:30:54
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Yeah.
01:30:54
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Oh, yeah.
01:30:54
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Super, super.
01:30:55
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shy well i was actually gonna say why don't we leave the wave riders on the edge of their seat we will be giving our afc nfc championship predictions next week okay our super bowl predictions the day before the season kicks off with as bob mentioned the detroit lions and the kansas city chiefs next thursday night i'm ready for some football
01:31:21
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We are so ready for some football.
01:31:22
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And also folks, since we're running out of time, we will not do a second ad, but Mac, I promise you we'll be doing two next week.
01:31:28
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So you can definitely tune in for that.
01:31:31
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It's going to be great.
01:31:32
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We're excited.
01:31:33
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Thanks for coming back for season three.
01:31:34
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It's going to be the best one yet.
01:31:37
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We are so pumped.
01:31:39
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Absolutely.
01:31:40
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Thanks so much for tuning in, sticking with us so long per usual, as Bob always says, you know, we'll really keep it short next time.
01:31:48
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We
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promise next time we'll keep it on in an hour.
01:31:51
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Not.
01:31:52
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Not.
01:31:53
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We'll catch y'all next week.
01:31:55
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Welcome back for the 2023 NFL season.
01:31:56
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Peace.
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Peace.