Well, and it's hard because, you know, we talk about like these kiddos not being the kiddos, you get a ton of chances with that what the IEP process can include for a lot of families is like, well, before we try that, let's first try this.
Schools vs Family Strategies
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Speaker
A family might have like a really clear, strong idea of like, this is our kiddo needs X. Like if yeah we could just have X part of this, like really think that would be helpful. And a school might want to first try Y.
Challenges for Vulnerable Students
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right because maybe because why we already kind of have some of the staffing set up for that or we already have that you know and like that's and so let's try that first and if that doesn't work then let's look at x you know and what can happen is for these kiddos these kiddos we don't get a ton of chances with is by the time we get to they're already like need-based non-attendance like I'm already like can't be there right yeah and so so that's what's hard right is like whereas that process maybe is is okay for some other kiddos like we can try and that doesn't work and this and I try this and that doesn't work and then we find this and like it's like i've've I've often I've sometimes heard it as like these kiddos are not the dandelions of the world like every time you mow them over they don't come back stronger