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257 - The Electric State (2025)
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“Our world is a tire fire floating on an ocean of piss.”
It's our last episode of 2025 AND our first episode of 2026?! How can this be??? Listen to our annual episode on a failed franchise starter from the year that was and, along the way, discuss our thoughts on the oeuvre of David Lynch, Tucker’s explanation of the proper way to use of AI, and our frustrations with the work of the Brothers Russo.
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Transcript
Podcast Hiatus and Future Plans
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey boys and girls, it's Tucker. I just wanted to pop in really quick and apologize for not posting this episode last Thursday like I was supposed to. I don't really have an excuse, but sorry. I'd also like to mention that we are taking a hiatus for a bit. Not sure how long, but I think the pod's going to be better when it comes back. We'll be working hard behind the scenes to make the pod everything it can be and more.
00:00:20
Speaker
Okay, that's all I've got. Happy New Year and enjoy the show.
00:00:34
Speaker
I'll say good for you.
00:00:47
Speaker
Welcome to the Disenfranchised Podcast and Merry Christmas to all who observe ah because this is coming out on Christmas Day on Christmas Day in the morning. in the morning, right? yeah In the morning, yeah, on Christmas Day in the morning. um I am your host, Stephen Foxworthy, joining me as always, the man, the myth, the legend in his own mind, it's Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Hello, Stephen.
00:01:15
Speaker
How are doing tonight, bud? Pretty all right. Pretty okay. pretty pretty yeah I do want to mention, just for for the sake of posterity, Brett Wright ah was supposed to join us for this episode, but ah he had he got called away at the last minute to find his brother in the midst of the the exclusion zone. So we wish him a very speedy recovery.
00:01:38
Speaker
um and And and hope he will be back ah sooner rather than later. um And so we this was this episode was and I don't know if you remember this, Tucker, because it happened a while, at least a year ago. um This episode was the the subject of some discussion for us as to whether or not we would do since this is dropping on Christmas Day.
00:02:00
Speaker
but it also is our last episode of 2025, whether this would be a holiday themed episode or a end of year episode. Typically at the end of the year, we do like to try to release ah a movie about a failed franchise starter that came out in the previous year. But then also for the week before, we like to try to do a holiday thing if we're able. And we elected, or and by we, I mean, I think you and Brett, I was outvoted, I believe, elected to do an end of year episode to retain our... ah our first week of the first week of the new year by week that we've instituted within the last few years.
00:02:37
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So this is, true this is our official end of year episode, despite the fact that it is releasing on Christmas day in the morning.
The Electric State: Film Review
00:02:44
Speaker
um And Tucker, what are we discussing for our final episode of 2025?
00:02:52
Speaker
We're talking about That's this year. That's this year. The Electric State. The Electric Slide. I mean, states. um direct I always think of that MGMT song. i always want to be like, Electric Slave.
00:03:09
Speaker
Watching movies with Billy Bobby Brown.
00:03:14
Speaker
Hanging out with Chris Pratt. As our robots, some surprisingly good-looking CGI robots. i Legitimately surprisingly good-looking. This movie...
00:03:28
Speaker
I'm just going to pull ah pull little little little teaser out. just Just put one card down. This movie is better than it has any right to be, but it is still no damn good all at the same time. Like somehow somehow better and worse there you go than I expected it to be, honestly. Ridiculous, this movie. um Directed by Joe and Anthony Russo, written by Christopher Marcus and Stephen McFeely, not the mailman from Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood, lest we unless we get confused.
00:03:59
Speaker
And starring Millie Bobby Brown, Bobby, Chris Pratt, Kay... Kehui Kwan, ah Jason Alexander, Giancarlo Esposito, Stanley Tucci, Woody Norman, Maren Hinkle, Michael Trucco, Rahul Coley, Holly Hunter, Pat Harrison, and featuring the voice talents of Anthony Mackie, Woody Harrelson, Jenny Slate, Alan Tudyk, Brian Cox, Hank Azaria, Coleman Domingo, Rob Gronkowski. Yes, that Rob Gronkowski. Jordan Black.
00:04:35
Speaker
ah Billy Gardell and Joe Russo as Skeevy Bot. ah What a cast, Tucker. What a picture. ah Not enough Holly Hunter in this movie. No.
00:04:49
Speaker
And she doesn't tell anybody. She doesn't tell anybody, you go in there, get me, baby. She doesn't tell anybody that in this movie, unfortunately. Nor does she tell anyone to stop pissing in a jar and calling it Grandma Sweet Tea. Also, if I could mention Tucci Gang, Tucci Gang, Tucci Gang, Tucci Gang, Tucci Gang, Tucci Gang.
00:05:10
Speaker
Oh, we're going to get into the Tucci of it all, my friend. The tooch of it all, I believe, is what you meant to say. This movie has a little bit more than a touch of the tooch. We're tooching it up in this.
00:05:23
Speaker
Touch of the tooch is a blank check-ism from the Blank Check podcast. Oh, man. Oh, we like a touch of the tooch. um i cannot claim I cannot claim that as my own joke. too bad It's a good joke, though. And a good joke is a good joke regardless of who originated it.
00:05:39
Speaker
um But yeah, this movie is – to call this cast Stacked – is like an insult to pancakes. Like it is such an incredible, incredibly dense cast. And I have to imagine that is all on the backs of the Russo brothers as, as the filmmakers, as the directors here. And, and like I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna say it.
00:06:05
Speaker
um I tend to find Russo brothers competent at best when it comes to their filmmaking style. I typically do not care for them. I do not consider them auteurs. They are they're popcorn directors at best. They are proficient, but not much else. I would not call them good directors, but they are competent.
00:06:27
Speaker
I don't think that they're... I agree with you, but I do think that there are certain kinds of films that lend themselves to their directing style, if you can call it that.
00:06:40
Speaker
And this is that kind of movie. And if it if this had a ah better script, it would be pretty good. That's why like Endgame...
00:06:49
Speaker
it still hits so hard because that had a good script, you know, and they, they did the things they needed to do. They are technically proficient. Like they know how to make a movie. They don't want make movies. They don't want to make them look good. Uh, it's just not much else to it, but then you get something like those Marvel movies. There's just from,
00:07:11
Speaker
I don't know. That's the thing about comparing this to something like in game is like you bring the Russo brothers in when when you bring a lot of other threads together when you need somebody or a couple of dudes, I guess, who can come in and sort it all out, put it all on film and get it out there.
00:07:34
Speaker
without it being too complicated because there's a lot to juggle in those kinds of movies. And that's something there. That's something they're good at is juggling all that shit. But then when you give them something like this, where the script is lacking and I'm being generous, I was i mean, it's, it's a Marcus McFeely thing and that we'll, we'll get into the, cause those are a couple of other Marvel guys as well.
00:07:58
Speaker
And we'll we'll get I'm sure we'll get into the Marcus and McFeely of it all as well at some point in this episode. Like we kind of have to. But yeah. And apparently this is a comic book, too, I guess. It's a it's a illustrated novel from my understanding. It's a Swedish, ah I believe. Let me let me double check my math on that one. But it is based on the yes, it is a Swedish novel from 2018, dystopian sci fi illustrated novel.
00:08:23
Speaker
So I don't think it's quite a comic book, but. um But it is, I wouldn't mind reading it because I found the story here somewhat interesting. Like I kind of wanted to dig into that.
00:08:34
Speaker
um I didn't, but again, the Americanization of this film and the the elements therein, I'm sure were like, it it felt like it diluted the message while amping up all of the like kitschy, goofy shit that we quote unquote need in an American blockbuster, you know?
00:08:52
Speaker
Well, they they essentially hit all the beats that they were supposed to for a blockbuster, essentially, you know, a Marvel movie or something. Yeah. um And apparently from what I've heard, like I haven't read the book either, but from what I've heard is if you like this movie at all,
00:09:13
Speaker
um enjoy that while you can until you read the book and then you're going to really fucking hate this movie.
CGI and Oscar Potential
00:09:21
Speaker
Right. And I mean, based on i look and again, I will say this movie is enjoyable enough for what it is, but it's not. It's entertaining.
00:09:32
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's interesting. This is this is the kind of movie. This is why I can't believe they spent three hundred and twenty fucking million dollars on this movie. Correct. Oh, my God. Yes, this would be if this were made like in the 80s or the 90s. This would be the movie you would catch on cable all the time.
00:09:47
Speaker
And you'd sit and watch it for a bit and then you'd be like, oh, well, I got to poop, though. yeah And then, you know, you can see more of it at some other time when it was on. Like, it's just enough to keep your attention. And it's it's fun and it looks great. Like, it looks really good. Like, this I have not i've not been this impressed with CGI um probably since the original Jurassic Park.
00:10:09
Speaker
Yeah. Like, this was, this looked really fantastic. Like, half the time I was like, there's no way, that's not practical, right? Because it's not. like It's all CGI. But some of it had me questioning it. I was like, is that is that real? like I couldn't believe it. I could not believe how real all of that shit looked.
00:10:31
Speaker
it was fantastic. Like they should, honestly, they should get an Oscar for it for VFX. Give these motherfuckers an Oscar for VFX. I don't think it's going to get nominated just based on what I know about how the Academy works. I don't think it's going to get a nomination, but um I, I enjoyed a lot of it. Like I loved the designs of the robots. I thought those were all very cool.
00:10:51
Speaker
um i love particularly. I love the design of pop fly as kind of like a mr Met. Yeah. kind of character or ah or Mr. Red from the Cincinnati Reds. um That's what I thought he was initially. The guy. Yeah. that he reads And then the the the main robot, um the the one the brother is living in Kid Cosmo, would kind of like an Astro Boy kind of riff, I guess.
00:11:16
Speaker
um yeah But yeah, I liked the designs of those robots in particular. The designs of the like the helmets that everyone is wearing to like split their consciousness into drones reminded me a lot of the original design of the Predator. Yeah.
00:11:31
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Like the the way the head was kind of angled. it looked very much like that. we've We just finished covering the Predator on um Pot and Pendulum. So that's kind of been on been fresh on my mind of late. um Been been knee deep in Predator land for months at this point.
00:11:49
Speaker
um Getting ready to start Psycho in the new year. So, yay. Dude, I can't wait till you watch Psycho 2. Am I? Can I be on that one? Did you tell him I'm going to on that one? I can put your name down.
00:12:01
Speaker
and Psycho 2 and 3. Not 4, though. No, I'm putting you on twice for Psycho 4. You have to clone yourself. Two times? Okay. Yes.
00:12:13
Speaker
Alright, I could probably do that. I have a feeling. If anyone could, it's going to be you. i would I would rival Michael B. Jordan in playing twins. Speaking of, segue. Hold on, you guys. Everybody wait a second.
00:12:28
Speaker
Guess what your boy did a couple nights ago? What did my what did my boy do now? I went to the Indiana State Museum IMAX theater, one of only eight IMAX theaters in the United States that still projects on 70 millimeter film. And I saw Sinners the exact way that it was intended to be seen.
00:12:50
Speaker
I'm kind of as as told by my boy, Ryan Coogler. I watched that video ah before I went and after I came back, his little aspect ratio video.
00:13:02
Speaker
That's that's comfort food for me watching that video. I love to watch him nerd out about that. But yeah, the 70 millimeter is the most perfect version of that's his actual like he's down. According to the video, he loves all the versions. He's like, I like this version because it's like this. And I like how this does that. But the 70 millimeter, that is his vision. That's the one.
00:13:23
Speaker
And Steven, let me tell you that IMAX dream is gigantic, right? Oh, I've been there. Yeah, it's huge. About 70% of the film is in its standard aspect ratio.
00:13:36
Speaker
um But boy, when it opens up to full widescreen, holy crap. I'm so glad I was in in the back with the disabled seats. um sat I sat in between two companion seats in the way back.
00:13:51
Speaker
Okay. And because like it's so big, I feel like I would have gotten disoriented and just like fallen down all the other seats. Yeah. The first time I went and saw IMAX, I was in like the fourth row. And it was one it was one of the three worst moviegoing experiences of my life.
00:14:09
Speaker
I was also, to to add insult to injury, I was also seeing Transformers 2, Dark of the Moon. so But that's not even in IMAX. I know.
00:14:20
Speaker
Tucker, I know. This one, it it fills the whole screen at points, Steven. The whole i musical. I know how it works. The big musical number in the middle? Yeah.
00:14:32
Speaker
It's the whole deal. And they've got like something like over 50 speakers up in that motherfucker. And like it's specially mixed. And like almost to a fault at some point. Because i almost yelled at some people for talking. And it was just like background noise in the actual movie.
00:14:50
Speaker
Because it's so it it pinpoints everything. like It's such an experience. If you can see it at IMAX at all,
IMAX Experience and Actor Highlights
00:14:57
Speaker
do it. If you can see it in 70mm, definitely do it. I paid about $24 to see it.
00:15:04
Speaker
And I feel like I should have paid. I wanted to give them more money. was like, you sure you don't want to pay you more for this? I should. go The closest IMAX to me is like an hour away. top like minimum. And the last time I went to IMAX is when my partner and I went to go see one of her all time favorite movies, Black Swan in an IMAX for its 15th anniversary. And that was, I have to tell you, incredible. Like that, that experience bumped that movie up to a five star movie for me. Like it had been sitting at four and a half forever. yeah And that that was the one that made me go, you know what? Five stars.
00:15:42
Speaker
Well, Steven, the nearest one to you that shows things on 70 millimeter is only two more hours away than that theater. So they bring back sinners.
00:15:55
Speaker
You all come down. You can come see it with me. And Brett's going to come to y'all need to come see it because like sinners. like I love Ryan Coogler, and I thought Sinners was really good, but like I probably won't buy it like on physical media. I might buy it digitally.
00:16:11
Speaker
absolutely will. like To see it in 70mm... I don't know if it is or not. I'm not sure. I thought i thought i I'm just gonna say I think it probably was the best movie of the year for me but probably not my favorite that's my thing with c sinners it's like I it's it's really really good it's one of the best movies I've ever seen but still I only like it pretty well.
00:16:37
Speaker
I like for me, like I and this is, I think, a testament to how much I enjoyed it. When I went to go see I took a mental health day from work and I went to go see sinners and I bought my tickets ahead of time. I bought a ticket for sinners and I bought a ticket for the Josh Harden movie Fighter Flight, which no one has ever heard of. It is movie that does not exist. It is a movie we will cover on this podcast one day. Now he was doing that Shyamalan movie instead. what are you talking about? you sure you didn't go see Trap?
00:17:03
Speaker
i I am definitely sure. I've seen Trap three times since it came out. Oh, like that one. That's a good one. Love Trap. Trap is fun. I love Trap quite a bit. so um But no, I saw it's a Josh Hart. It's basically ah what if John Wick was on drugs and on a plane?
00:17:18
Speaker
That is that is fight or flight. I like that. Yeah, it's pretty it's it's a fun premise. It's a fun movie. is i mean, there's just not a lot there. When I walked out of Sinners, I regretted buying the ticket to the Josh Hartnett movie because I wanted to go see Sinners again immediately.
00:17:34
Speaker
And that never happens for me. like I watched One Battle After Another recently, and I loved it. like One Battle After Another is an insanely – it is a perfect film. It is one of Paul Thomas Anderson's like four perfect films.
00:17:48
Speaker
And I was like, this movie is incredible, but like, I am not living in it the way I was living in sinners for so long. Um, like sinners is a hundred percent, my movie of the year. And again, like one battle after another, an insanely close second, but like sinners is with a bullet, my number one movie of the year, which is, i mean, the second year in a row that my favorite movie of the year has been a horror film.
00:18:15
Speaker
go I think that that outside of the horror aspect, I think Ryan Coogler really truly made a film for pretty much that pretty much anybody can enjoy. Yeah, ah because there's so much in it. That's like if if you know about film and if you're like like a DVD commentary nerd or you know, whatever. Like, you know exactly what he's doing and he shows you that yeah he knows that, you know, like that establishing shot with, uh, with Michael B. Jordan and he's passing the cigarette back and forth. It's like, work all right. Right. I know what you're doing. You're showing off now. That's what you're doing. yeah I was going to say, you're just having fun with us right now. And like, if Michael B. Jordan does not at least get nominated for, I think he should win, but if he doesn't at least get nominated for best actor, I fucking riot.
00:19:03
Speaker
like that The fact that that man has not yet been nominated, and if they pass him over for this role, mm-mm. I agree with you, um but I think really the standout for me ah was, what's that guy's name? He was in Ransom. He was the main cop in Ransom. He plays the the piano player. Don't worry about him, though.
00:19:28
Speaker
Yes. I love Delroy Lindo. No, he should have won for Defy Bloods. No, I agree with you. He should have won for Defy Bloods and he wasn't even nominated. like that's That's that kind of insane shit. like that like Have you seen Defy Bloods? The Spike Lee film? No, I have not.
00:19:45
Speaker
No, that's one of the few I haven't seen and it's been on my list forever. It is on Netflix, so it's easy to access. But he is so fucking good in that movie. Like he, like the fact that he did not get nominated is a travesty among travesties. Like he, his was my favorite performance of that year. And that was my favorite movie of that year. Defy bloods. I fucking loved it. It's so good.
00:20:09
Speaker
And he's so good in it. So it's my favorite performance in my favorite movie of the year of that year. So like, but no, I absolutely think, I don't think he will be, but I think he should be if nothing else as, as an apology for not nominating him for defy bloods, honestly,
00:20:25
Speaker
Or for anything else, really. like He's fantastic at anything. And I think that... I can't really hit... I don't really like his vocal cadence in Ransom. Because everything he says comes out like this. And it doesn't matter who he's talking to. This is his vocal cadence. And I understand that that is the character. But after a while, it gets old.
00:20:49
Speaker
sure i i am inclined to agree um that said i also think that the the lady who play and i i'm i'm spacing on her name right now but the lady that plays ah the ah the voodoo priestess in sinners as well she also deserves a nomination i think because she is absolutely fucking incredible andrean ward hammond plays ruthie what Her name is Andreen Ward Hammond.
00:21:18
Speaker
I think we're thinking of a different actress. um Let me. Okay. Her name is, I just saw her in an episode of Black Mirror recently too, and I was like, oh my God, that's hilarious.
00:21:32
Speaker
um
00:21:36
Speaker
But. No, what is what is her character's name? Hang on. But she's the one who does the. Maybe you described who it was wrong.
00:21:50
Speaker
Maybe. No, it is Wunmi Mosaku. Annie is the character's name. pretty What? Who are you talking about? In Sinners?
00:22:03
Speaker
Yes. I'm talking about that person. I just sent you ah the her IMDB page. What the fuck?
00:22:14
Speaker
Wait, what? Who was she in that? She was Annie. She was the ah Stacks or Smokes girl. Yeah, yay yeah, yeah.
00:22:26
Speaker
But she was the the one who had like who was doing the voodoo stuff. Yeah, no, that's that's on me. um Can you, there's a little button right there, Stephen, on the soundboard. If you could go ahead and hit that, I'd appreciate it because it's time.
00:22:40
Speaker
I gotcha. I was wrong. There it is. There it is. it is There it is. It doesn't happen often, and just but I am not someone who will ah deny being wrong. Because sometimes, you know what?
00:22:57
Speaker
You're motherfucking wrong sometimes. Happens to everybody. Sometimes. It do be like that sometimes. Mm-hmm. Sometimes it do be like that. um She was also in... um And remember Strip, maybe how she was in Loki?
00:23:14
Speaker
I do. Yeah. And also in Deadpool and Wolverine. And like I said, I just saw ah an episode of Black Mirror that she was in the one with Wyatt Russell, where he's like testing a video game. She's like the person like that that works with the company that's kind of walking him through like the play test. Play test is the name of the episode.
00:23:31
Speaker
Can you believe that I've only seen two episodes of Blackbeard? Can't you believe that? What? Which two? You know, that's like that's like my show. You know that's my show, right?
00:23:43
Speaker
Right. That's like me only having seen two episodes of Schmigadoon. Yeah, like what the actual fuck? I don't know. how I just never sat down and done it. I saw the episode with Miley Cyrus, of course, my girl, um and I saw the Bandy Snatch.
00:23:59
Speaker
Right, which is not on Netflix anymore, I understand. um That is a really fun show. I did too. I watched it like three times because I wanted to try to play as many different um permutations of it as I could.
00:24:12
Speaker
And it's fun. it's it's really good It's a really good show. um That said, um no I really love Black Mirror. And we watched the episode White Christmas. Yeah.
00:24:27
Speaker
annually like around this time of year. That is an annual watch in the, uh, in our, in our household. My partner and I are both big fans of that, or my partner in particular is a big fan of that episode, but it is, it is actually one of the better episodes of that show. So I will recommend that to anyone needing something else to watch other than the electric state today. Maybe, maybe,
00:24:49
Speaker
Maybe for my New Year's resolution this year, it will be to finally watch Black Mirror. Now, how we got on this tangent was we were saying that I said that the Electric State should win an Oscar for its VFX.
00:25:06
Speaker
Right. And then you started talking about Michael B. Jordan. Yeah. But I wish it would, because everybody who worked on the visual effects on this film should be very proud of themselves.
00:25:19
Speaker
And it's kind of the antithesis of the Marvel thing where so often the Marvel films... they like hold off on the, the visual effects in order to, like or like they'll like rush them. So they end up looking really shitty. um And then they'll like try to quote unquote, fix them for Disney plus to varying degrees of success. Like it's just kind of a, ah it's just kind of a bad move, honestly. and this it seems like Netflix actually gave them the time and the money to do the visual effects and to make them look like,
00:25:54
Speaker
legitimately pretty good because again knowing the way that the russo's work coming out of the marvel camp you know there's a lot of green screens this was probably filmed for the cheap at some studios some studios in georgia like this was yeah as this is you know so much of that money was poured back into the effects then We were talking about how ah how the Russo brothers are fine. Like, they do their thing, and that's fine. I think now now that we've discussed this, I think that their strength is green green screen and eye lines.
00:26:28
Speaker
Like, I never don't believe that a human character is talking to a CGI character. So the two things that those guys do really well is green green slash blue screen shit.
00:26:39
Speaker
and I guess eye lines kind of fall under that, too. i mean, they do like I we've come a long way from like the Phantom Menace where you can tell like Liam Neeson is just looking into thin air. It's very clear.
00:26:55
Speaker
And we talked on our Who Framed Roger Rabbit episode with a friend of the show, Michelle Egan, about like the genius of Bob Hoskins in that movie is that he could stop his eyes right in front of him to make you believe he was looking at a physical person, even though there was legitimately nothing there. Like he was able to stop his eyes prior to like whatever was back there. So it didn't look like he was looking through something. And we'll get to this whenever we talk about cool world on this podcast as well, because Brad Pitt...
00:27:24
Speaker
clearly looking at nothing through most that movie. Yeah, he's not good at it in that No. Well, and again, this is like baby Brad Pitt. This is like Brad Pitt pre-stardom. So, like, again, this is like an early... Like, maybe... I think the only thing he had done prior to that is probably Thelma and Louise. Thelma and Louise, yeah.
00:27:41
Speaker
Well, I mean, he'd done a few things. He was in a few things, but... ah I mean, he was... He's no George Clooney with his back catalog of B-movies, but he did some things. Sure, who Speaking of Clooney, definitely getting nominated for Jake Kelly this year.
00:27:57
Speaker
Speaking of Clooney, um where do you have any idea, Stephen, where Return of the Killer Tomatoes is on the straight up list? It's not on there, I don't think.
00:28:08
Speaker
Oh, going to need you to bump it all the way up to whatever the next one is. What's it bumping out? I'm sure it's bumping out. Tell me it's daddy and them.
00:28:18
Speaker
Tell me it's daddy and them. It's either daddy and them or six degrees of separation. It's always them The that have been bumped more than anything else. because i initially You initially were like, that's the best one. Well, we I floated the idea of having that as one of our horror straight ups.
00:28:37
Speaker
And you were like, no, it's not horror enough. It's not. No, it's not. Yeah. ah Return of the Killer Tomatoes is nowhere on the the next the next one, which what we would be pushing back anyway, is six degrees of separation ah followed by Daddy and them.
00:28:56
Speaker
ah Then Jerry and Tom and Stir of Echoes. Oh, Jerry and Tom. Oh, I forgot about that one. That's another that's another one of those good, ah like, you know, Pulp Fiction hits. So all the scripts that were any in any way similar to it were greenland greenlit. Regardless of whether or not they understood the assignment. Way of the Gun is favorite one of those. The fact that that got made is just insane.
00:29:23
Speaker
Christopher McQuarrie. That's ah the writer of the usual suspects directed by he who must not be named. And then into 2021, we have waking life and deranged.
00:29:35
Speaker
So that's kind of where we are right now. Yeah. Well, throw return the killer tomatoes on there somewhere. Surprise me. ah Roll a die. Roll a die. Throw it in there somewhere.
00:29:47
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September, 2027. It is. yes I want to watch it now, though. Tucker, there's nothing stopping you from watching it right now.
00:29:58
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You know, i so I bought the Blu-ray, the ah Arrow put out Blu-ray, special edition, a couple years and I bought it.
Streaming Frustrations and Director Casting Choices
00:30:07
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And I still haven't watched it. And now I can't watch it because it's in MF and storage.
00:30:14
Speaker
So I'll have to stream it somewhere. I don't even know where it's streaming. It's got to be streaming somewhere. i would I'm already on it. Too late. LOL. You have to talk so that it's not a boring podcast while I look this up.
00:30:27
Speaker
I mean, it i mean, what Tucker, it's usually a boring podcast, regardless of whether one of us is looking shit up. Like, let's let's be let's be real clear here. Yeah, I guess I'd probably have to. I'll just go ahead and buy it right now on digital.
00:30:44
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That sounds about right. So it's there for us. You're still signed into my voodoo, right, Stephen? I believe so. I think you got me signed in recently. Because i for for the longest time, I had been kicked out.
00:31:00
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That's too bad, dude. Well, you got to get back into that if you're not. Because i keep buying movies that I just... I know I'm going to watch at some point. Like, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. she doesn't, though. that That is true. Alice Does Not Live Here Anymore. Hey, that's what I heard. I'm just saying. That she doesn't live here anymore. Don't get mad at me.
00:31:24
Speaker
Willard, Love and Mercy... ah Eight heads in a duffel bag. When did I buy that? i don't know. It doesn't matter. it was probably on sale. I mean, but we we do stand Joe Pesci. and Let's be clear.
00:31:37
Speaker
Let's be very clear. point I'm very I feel very clear about it. Waxwork 2. What? Who bought that? Phantasm 2? I only like the first one.
00:31:48
Speaker
Yeah, but Phantasm 2 is the one that's like impossible to find. Oh, cool. I have it on digital, so have fun with that. So I'm i'm not even a little bit mad that you have that. because yeah That has legitimately been the thing keeping me from binging the Phantasm franchise is that there is nowhere to find Phantasm 2. Like, I can find 1, 3, 4, 5, but I cannot find 2.
00:32:12
Speaker
I have 2 and Ravager on my voodoo, so... Okay. Well, and again, I should be able to find three and four relatively easily. So that's not an issue. ah Now I just need to talk my partner into watching the Phantasm franchise with me. And that's going to go one of two ways. It's either going to go, i mean, that's okay. Or i hate this. So.
00:32:34
Speaker
The first one's really good. Yeah. I like the first one. The first one is the one I have seen. you have to kind of be on board with the characters for the other ones to work for you. I say that because i don't, I don't mind the other ones, but, uh, my ex wife is a very into all of them, which is probably why I have Phantasm two on my voodoo, because sometimes when she wants to watch something and it's not available, she's like, I'm going to buy it. And I'm like, well, just buy it on my voodoo so that right we both have it.
00:33:08
Speaker
Right. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. Makes very good sense. Yeah, dude. So, yeah, dude. But, you know, it's unfortunate that Angus Scrimm wasn't around to be in the electric state in some capacity.
00:33:24
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I mean, he'd been right there. ah And again, but but so many of these are like. so many of these actors are Russo brother collaborators. Like Chris Pratt was in end game and infinity war. Um, you've got, um the did but but but it's mostly the voice cast. Honestly, now that I'm, now that I'm looking at like Anthony Mackie was also in those films.
00:33:49
Speaker
Um, yeah, Man, okay, fewer than I thought. Okay, my apologies. It's just those two. But then you i mean you've got a lot of other Marvel people. Stanley Tucci was in Captain America, the first Captain America. Kei Hui Kwan was in Loki.
00:34:05
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um Jason Alexander is a TV guy. They come out of TV, like particularly TV comedy. They're big TV guys. They got their start on Arrested Development, directed a lot of community as well. In fact, did you catch the community reference in this movie, Tucker? They put a community reference in every movie they direct.
00:34:24
Speaker
No. What was it? There was a, during that final battle outside of the, ah the ah what was it called? um Senate? No. A circle? inate ah Yeah. The company place. yeah Yeah. The company. Yeah. It starts with an S, but it's a word that doesn't normally start with that. Circle? Was that it?
00:34:45
Speaker
Something like that. Center. Center. That's a big shot. Yeah. Yeah. Center. S-E-N-T-R-E. Center. Center. Center. I'm not playing porno password with my mother.
00:35:01
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um Yes, I understood that reference, Tucker. love you for knowing that, Steven. I don't necessarily get the Ghostbusters references, but I get the Cable Guy ones. Yes. For good or ill, I get the Cable Guy ones. You know, my brother-in-law is a speech therapist.
00:35:19
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So?
00:35:24
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Do you really mean you're my friend? Oh, David Olmos Bowie. Getting in all kinds of trouble at the end of that movie. Oh, my God. Sure, buddy!
00:35:35
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Sure, buddy! I mean, that is that a sequel hook? Can we cover Cable Guy on this podcast? Please. Tucker nodding emphatically. The most underrated film of all time.
00:35:50
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It is a...
00:35:53
Speaker
too It's And like it's an it's a Like one of those movies that you don't realize That Ben Stiller directed but he Absolutely did and it's also In that vein of like forgotten 90s dark comedies Like Ben Stiller plays the Menendez Brothers in that movie that's the wild thing Yes I constantly, my my ex-wife and I could still constantly quote that, where he's like, they looked Asian, and they were speaking another language.
Underrated Comedies and Film Recommendations
00:36:22
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I think it was Asian. asian
00:36:29
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and And an early Jack Black role as well. Wasted in that movie, but still. 100%. Yeah. um but that yeah and yeah Early on Wilson as well.
00:36:41
Speaker
Right. What's going on with the chicken, man? Have the eggs had a chance to catch hatch yet? Why don't you go check on that, my friend? Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. um but But yeah, ah I don't know what I was saying about um the electric state. When anybody asks me about the weather anywhere that I live, because you i try I've lived a lot of places. You've lived all over the place, yeah. I say, the winters are surprisingly mild!
00:37:16
Speaker
Oh, and I... I generally like Ben Stiller as a director, too. like Some of his stuff is is has missed me, but like Cable Guy is surprisingly underrated. zoot The original Zoolander is wonderful. Tropic Thunder, I i kind of still stump for. i do ah For all its flaws, and there are many, I do really enjoy that movie, ah which...
00:37:40
Speaker
It may mean I'm fucked up, but who knows? you're fine. You know what's a really great double feature, Tucker? What's that? And I've probably said this on this podcast before. ah Josie and the Pussycats and Tropic Thunder is a really great double feature. Really?
00:37:55
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it's It's a surprisingly good double feature because it's about... What's the order? ah That order. Josie and the Pussycats and Tropic Thunder. Do it in chronological, but you've got one that's kind of a very cynical...
00:38:09
Speaker
takedown of the music industry and another that's a very cynical takedown of Hollywood. Oh, fair. Yeah. And so they both work on that level, like on that satirical level.
00:38:20
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I always forget that Bill Hader's in Tropic Thunder until I'm watching it. He's so good. always forget. Always. I'm going to tell the Tropic Thunder story that I always tell when I talk about Tropic Thunder.
00:38:31
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The first time I saw that movie, I knew that Tom Cruise was in that movie. And I knew what he looked like in that movie because I'd seen the leaks like the the leaks of him like going to set.
00:38:42
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So I kind of knew what to expect. I'm watching that movie with my roommate at the time. And we're watching his favorite movie of all time is Top Gun starring Tom Cruise. That is his favorite movie of all time. Got it. OK.
00:38:56
Speaker
You said it like there were multiple Tom Cruise, some of ah multiple Top Guns, some of which not starring Tom Cruise. No, no, no. There's two Top Guns and they both star Tom Cruise. But this is the original. This was before Maverick. Yeah, yeah. So we're watching the movie and I'm just we're we're both vibing. We're having a great time. But like Les Grossman comes on screen and I look over at him and he is just like looking at the screen perplexed.
00:39:23
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And then about like two or three minutes into the first Les Grossman screen scene, he pauses the movie and he looks over at me he goes, who's playing that guy? I was like, Les Grossman? He's like, yeah. I was like, you know who's playing Les Grossman.
00:39:38
Speaker
He's like, I do? i was like, yeah, look at the eyes and listen to the voice. Listen to the cadence. You know who Les Grossman is. And so he goes, okay. And he hits play and we watch it for probably another half an hour. And then he pauses it again. He goes, okay, seriously, who is that?
00:39:53
Speaker
I was like, he is in your favorite movie of all time. And he goes, he's in Top Gun? I was like, yes. He he looks at the screen. And he looks back at me and he goes, who does he play? I was like, he plays fucking Maverick, dude.
00:40:07
Speaker
You do this. That's Tom Cruise. I'm like, yes, that is Tom fucking Cruise. And then as soon as I can see that, a hundred percent, like he is so good in that movie.
00:40:20
Speaker
I think, i think he and he and Robert Downey Jr. both got nominated for best supporting actor at the Golden Globes for that movie. And, but you know, it's down. He got the Oscar nomination.
00:40:31
Speaker
Speaking of Jack Black being wasted in a Ben Stiller movie, again. Again. like Jack Black essentially playing Chris Farley, which is kind of like a waste of his time. Yeah, and it like I said, it was fine.
00:40:48
Speaker
but it's come on you could have done more with jack black man yeah that's my only group with that movie is like why is jack black even there with what you've given him to do it is a movie that i legitimately enjoy i i do really find that movie funny i will laugh my ass off watching that movie um indeed but yeah um The electric state, though, does not start any of those people. No, but you know who it does?
00:41:17
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how According to IMDb, there's an uncredited voice by Billy Bob Thornton, and you know what I have to say about that? I say that, ah well, that's fucking cool.
00:41:30
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that's That's all I wanted to say about it, really. I was going to say, that's kind of your Billy Bob go-to. Who does he play in this? I did not talk to him at all. It says voice uncredited. He had to go get his cutting goal hat.
00:41:47
Speaker
Mm-hmm. He sure do like them French fried taters. Mm-hmm. Yep, there he is. Billy Bob Thornton, voice uncredited. Does not give a character at all. You talk.
00:42:03
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I like where you talk, Steven.
00:42:06
Speaker
And then that's... that's that that's that That little boy in Sling Blade is the main character in Fast the Furious 3, your favorite series of films.
00:42:17
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I do. I would not say favorite. That's that boy. but That is that boy. Oh, my God. That's the Sling Blade boy. As i I have said about that particular actor, for an actor from Alabama, he has the least convincing Alabama accent I've ever heard.
00:42:33
Speaker
It does sound like, he for me, it sounds like he's putting it on, but he's doing a really good job of putting it on. I see. And I feel the opposite. Like he's putting it on and I don't believe it. Like that's, that's, that's the difference between you and me.
00:42:48
Speaker
That is funny though. And you know, who else is in that movie is, um, what's the name of that? Uh, Dwight Yoakam. Yeah. He plays the abusive boyfriend. Yes.
00:43:00
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Carl. ah And John Ritter's in that movie, too. John Ritter plays the boss. Yeah, the the gay boss. yeah he And John Ritter's so fucking good in that movie. Mm-hmm. I think you mean mm-hmm. I do. No, but Dwight Yoakam's fantastic in that. He's really good in everything that he's in. It really kind of...
00:43:19
Speaker
It's upset me over the years how few things he's been in. Like, you catch him in something every once in while. Like, he's in Sling Blade. He was in the Newton Brothers, which is a fantastic forgotten Linklater film that you should see if you haven't seen it. There are so many Linklater movies. You got Skeet Ulrich, Ethan Hawke, fucking Dwight Yoakam, Matthew McConaughey.
00:43:41
Speaker
Ethan Hawke's in a Dwight or is in a Richard Linklater movie? That sounds so much, Jim. can't believe it. and Right? I can't believe it. Bizarre. Yes. But ah yeah, dude. um Don't remember what I was talking about, but it was really cool, and I'm sure everybody got the point.
Actor Praise and Heist Film Spotlight
00:43:59
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we were talking about Dwight Yoakam. Oh, yes, yes. He shows up. He was in he was in the Crank movies. He just pops up every once while. He was in the show Willard. Or Wilfred. Sorry, not Willard. i was going to say that was a show based on, yes, I know what Wilfred is. yeah Yeah. He was the only other person who saw Wilfred as a guy in a dog suit.
00:44:21
Speaker
And there was a whole thing. like Dwight Joachim just shows up. And like he doesn't show up often, but he does. And he's there. And we're all happy for it. The last thing he did was the 2021 Clint Eastwood movie, Cry Macho.
00:44:37
Speaker
Which tracks, but that's too bad because I'd love to see him more stuff because he is. I've never, ever seen a bad Dwight Yoakam performance. You know what he's in that? I absolutely fucking love Tucker. What's that, Steven?
00:44:53
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2017 Steven Soderbergh film Logan Lucky he plays the warden of the prison oh Tucker you would fucking love Logan Lucky oh word you would love it's about a group of rednecks that try to pull that try to rob a um and a NASCAR stadium on race day And it it's got a fucking amazing – it's Channing Tatum's your lead. You've got Katie Holmes as his ex-wife. You've got Adam Driver as his one-armed brother.
00:45:27
Speaker
ah Hillary Swank as the FBI agent. Daniel Craig as the demolitions expert that they break Seth MacFarlane. As a fucking NASCAR driver. love that. It's so fucking good, Tucker. It's so good. ah I hate to say that.
00:45:42
Speaker
Watch Logan Lucky. Do yourself a favor and watch Logan Lucky. I hate to rabbit trail a rabbit trail a rabbit trail, but no, you don't. My my relationship with Seth MacFarlane is so weird because about 70% of his creative output. I'm just not interested in at all, but i've love that man I love that man. that man.
00:46:05
Speaker
He is fantastic. Like I would love to hang out with that guy. Love to hang out with that guy. Family guy, no interest. American Dad, no interest. None of that shit. The Orville, yes, sign me up.
00:46:19
Speaker
Okay. His jazz records, please. Please. And anytime he he's kind of like Tyler Perry in that way, though, I don't like I don't have that same relationship with Tyler Perry. But in this specific way, it's like when he's outside of like the normal thing he does. I love to see that. That's why, like, I love to see Tyler Perry in the Star Trek movie, the first Star Trek reboot movie.
00:46:41
Speaker
Like, I love seeing him outside of the thing that he's famous for. And that's that's why I have to see this movie now, because Seth MacFarlane is in a ah not Seth MacFarlane movie. Tucker. What? Speaking of Tyler Perry, have you seen David Fincher's Gone Girl?
00:46:56
Speaker
Yeah. That is my favorite Tyler Perry performance. Yes. Of all time. He's so fucking good. He's That's why, and like, good for him with the Madea shit and everything. It's not for me. Like, whatever. No.
00:47:13
Speaker
But, like, please, Tyler Perry, get out there and just like do some shit for fun. Because we love to see you outside of your comfort zone, outside of that Madea shit. Like, I'm glad you're doing it, but... Like kick a little something for the people who aren't into it, you know, because that man has so much talent, so much talent.
00:47:31
Speaker
the The first Madea film I saw, my ex-wife was a huge fan of Madea. Oh, boy. And we went see – mean, oh, boy. Right. We went to see Madea's witness protection in theaters, Tucker. In theaters we saw that movie. I'm so sorry, Steven.
00:47:48
Speaker
I leaned over to make a joke about at one point during the movie – and i was I was just trying to find anything to latch on to because, again – Yeah. At one point I made a joke about how I thought it was funny that Eugene Levy and Denise richard Richards produced ah like who I thought was the kid from the ah modern family. It wasn't. It was a different kid. But I was like, like, it's funny that those two made that kid. And she's like, you know, you can just leave.
00:48:20
Speaker
And I was like, oh, shit. Okay. I guess I'm not saying another word for the rest of this movie. Some people are pretty serious about the shit that they like.
00:48:31
Speaker
I, you know, i and i just exclusively date people who are very serious about the shit that they like. i well They don't. I don't think it's a specific personality trait. I think we all kind of have shit that we're precious about. Like, I try not to be about most things, but every once in while, I'll catch myself being precious about something.
00:48:51
Speaker
and like, I just have to take a step back and be like, dude, it's not that deep. Like, calm the fuck down. I have to say to myself and be like, calm the fuck down, dude. Like, if someone comes up to me and says, I fucking hate gremlins, I'm like, I mean, you're wrong, but that's fine. You can hold that opinion.
00:49:06
Speaker
like But I know i don't – I'm not going to argue with them about it. I'm not going to try to, like, convince them otherwise. Like, not everything needs to be for everybody, and I understand that.
00:49:18
Speaker
Yeah. but So I also try not to be precious about shit, which is why I'm always kind of flabbergasted by people that have, like, these strong, visceral reactions to media. Like, I was talking – ah We were talking about Twin Peaks, how I'm watching. I'm ah going to be recording an episode of the Spectre Cinema Club tomorrow on Twin Peaks The Return. So I've been binging that lately.
00:49:39
Speaker
And my partner refuses to watch it with me because she, quote, hates Twin Peaks. And like we were talking about it earlier today, and she was just like, it makes me feel sick.
00:49:51
Speaker
Like no one's acting like a real person. Everyone's acting like a real, everyone's acting like they're acting like a person rather than acting like a person. And like, it's made, she's, is it this 80 shit that I don't understand? Like, because I didn't watch a lot of TV in the eighties and I'm just like,
00:50:10
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It's it's based on a soap opera. So if you don't have and and she doesn't have any basis in soap opera like you're not going to get kind of the tone that they're going for. It's also very Lynchian and Lynch is all about the vibe and like evoking a feeling whether that is and and very often that feeling is unease.
00:50:28
Speaker
ah So if you're feeling uneasy you're feeling probably one of the desired effects. potentially i was gonna say i think you you give that review to david lynch and he would be as happy to hear your partner's review of it as he would a glowing review of it he would be like yes absolutely like i'm so glad that it makes you feel sick that's fantastic Like his first film that he made was a short film called Six Men Getting Sick or something to that effect. like it like he's it's
00:50:59
Speaker
ah But again, like and but i don't go I also am not one of those people who go into Lynch movies like expecting to like try to figure out the plot. I'm in it purely for the vibes. like I don't want to know what's going on. Don't fucking tell me what's going on. Don't tell me what you fucking – I might listen to what you think is going on.
00:51:15
Speaker
But i I will take it with a ah big old salt lick. Like I'm not going to be like, oh, yeah, okay, that's definitely what that means. I'm going to go, oh, that's interesting. I'm 95% sure David Lynch would agree with would disagree with most of that.
00:51:31
Speaker
Yeah. um like that's Well, I mean, and I think he was a big believer in putting shit out there and letting people interpret it how they want. And I feel like he's intentionally abstract for that reason. And he's he's doing that. He's done he did that. R.I.P. to an extent that I don't think anybody else
David Lynch's Polarizing Style
00:51:53
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ever has. His art is more subjective than anything else I've ever seen, which is why I don't feel bad when I'm like, yeah, I don't really like that David Lynch movie.
00:52:03
Speaker
Yeah. Like it's, it's real, real good. And I love that man, but i don't really like like blue velvet. Fuck blue velvet. Fuck it. Right up. Stupid ass. Here's the thing. I get why people don't like blue velvet. I think it is a masterpiece of a film.
00:52:16
Speaker
Like, Oh, it is a still beautiful movie. but it It is. It is as beautiful as it is ugly though. And I think Lynch thrives in those contradictions. Absolutely. that no Contradictions.
00:52:28
Speaker
That's why I am a giant David Lynch fan, but I honestly don't like most of his stuff. You heard it here first, kids. It's not that it's bad. It's just it.
00:52:40
Speaker
It's just not for you. just It disgusts and repulses me, which I think is exactly what he wants. So maybe you're having a reaction. Yes, you're having a photo Lynch fan because I don't like most of his stuff.
00:52:55
Speaker
But I think there's definitely something to that. I think, I think the last thing David Lynch would want you to do is walk out of that movie and go, eh, it was all right. Like, I think he wants you to have a reaction. Like he's a polarizing filmmaker for that, for that reason. And i for my part, I have liked, i've and I've not visited all of his films. There's still at least three glaring blind spots in his filmography that I have not seen.
00:53:20
Speaker
And that is wild at heart. That is lost highway and inland empire. I think are the three of his that I've not seen. Okay.
00:53:32
Speaker
like two of two of his like weirder ones for sure inland yeah empire and lost highway but then like wild at heart i've also not i own wild at heart and i oh here's the thing i own all three of those movies i just have not had and again my partner hates david lynch so i it's going to be one of those things like i have to be in the mood to watch it when she's not around it's going to be when i end up watching that Yeah, yeah. and lost Lost Highway, honestly, I think is probably, outside of like Straight Story, is probably his most accessible film.
00:54:05
Speaker
Oh, in because that's interesting you say that because Straight Story was a pivot in response to Lost Highway when people saying, oh, he's gone too far off his own ass. No, no, Lost so Highway was the one that...
00:54:18
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great story Like Lost Highway was not just like a film nerd movie like all of his other movies that he had put out to that point.
00:54:28
Speaker
It was like it it was a pretty big deal. Like people like non Lynch fan people went to see it. Like I think it did pretty well if I'm maybe I just maybe it was just my group of friends. I don't know. But it seemed like it was kind of a big deal there for a while.
00:54:47
Speaker
I think a lot of people went to see it. ah boot But again and again, that was kind of a recovery from Fire Walk With Me, potentially. or the we shot of paulman We need more Bill Paulman in Lynch movies. It's too bad we can't rectify that.
00:55:03
Speaker
Because the fact that he's just in that one, I think he really has. he's He's the perfect... I know you haven't seen Lost Highway. No spoilers here, Stephen. But he's the perfect audience surrogate For a Lynch movie.
00:55:16
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That's why I think Lost Highway is. David Lynch's most accessible. Lynchian film. Interesting. Because you have Bill Pullman. As the guy who's like. Wait what dude.
00:55:29
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like i um lost du I almost feel like he gets Bill Pullman for lost highway because Kyle McLaughlin doesn't want to do it. Cause Kyle McLaughlin like his stand in like Kyle McLaughlin is like the guy he if Lynch is like, I need someone to be me for a little bit. Uh, let's his bridal Halloran. Yeah. first Let me call, let me call my buddy Kyle.
00:55:52
Speaker
He'll do this movie for me. Maybe. um we I love that our electric state episode is 95% just us talking about David Lynch.
00:56:04
Speaker
And that's too bad too. Well, no, it's not too bad because we said what was important. This, the VFX in this movie are fantastic. The cast is insane, but ultimately it's just, it's fine. You watch it. It's on cable. I'd spend a few minutes with it. I might watch the whole thing with it. If I were flipping channels.
00:56:24
Speaker
The Arrested Development reference, Tucker. Oh, please. that was that That was the tangent we were on that got completely derailed. No, it was Community. Community. No, it's because they put the the Arrested Development pilot was the first thing they like one of the first things they directed. So they put an Arrested Development reference in every movie they do. Okay, you said Community last time. So is it also Community? Do they do both? No, no, no. They directed on Community, but they put Arrested Development references in everything.
00:56:52
Speaker
Okay. Like in america Captain America Civil War. Look at that in the movie. No. The Bluth Company stair car is at the airport fight scene in Captain America Civil War. actually noticed that before anybody told me. I was so proud of myself. I was like, I saw an Easter egg before I watched a YouTube video about it.
00:57:13
Speaker
Tobias Fionke is in the collector's like vault in Avengers Infinity War. Like they put that shit in everything. So in this one, in that final battle at so center, there is ah one of the robots. One of the advertising robots has a giant Barry Zucker corn billboard.
00:57:33
Speaker
And it even has like, it's like really faded and stuff. And you, it was kind of one of those blinking. You miss it. I had to rewind just to make sure I thought I saw what I thought I saw. And it turns out that I did, in fact, see what I thought I saw. But it has Barry Zuckerkorn. He's very good. And then the number from the from the bench like that has his advertisements on it in the show. So like it i was I was very excited to catch the Arrested Development Easter egg in this in this movie. Now, is there a community Easter egg, though?
00:58:04
Speaker
I don't think they do the community Easter eggs. They will sometimes cast community actors. Like they cast Jim Rash and Danny Pudi in a couple of their early Marvel movies. Like, I feel like Danny Pudi could have been in this in some capacity. And I'm kind of puzzled as to why he's not scheduling. He could have been the voice of any e robot, literally any robot, and would have probably been incredible as the voice of literally any robot.
00:58:31
Speaker
And I mean, he could have... ah I think Ken Jeong is in Endgame, too. like they They do cast the community actors, but they do they put in the Arrested Development Easter eggs is usually how they do it. I'm just saying Danny Pudi could have done a kid from Goonies role as well.
00:58:52
Speaker
Like he could have done that. Corey Feldman? That have been a Danny Pudi. the kid from Goonies that's in this. Hey, I'm just, I don't want to mispronounce his name is why I'm dancing around it.
00:59:05
Speaker
Kei Hui Kwan? Yeah. Yeah. You did it, Steven. Good job. Academy Award winner Kei Hui Kwan? Yeah, dude. I'm just saying Danny Pudi could have done that. Like you could have swapped them. Honestly, no disrespect to your boy, but like, no. And I mean, i this has been a great year for, uh, for K who Kwan doing really bad movies.
00:59:27
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Um, because I'm into that. He does this and he does love hurts. Have you heard anything about love hurts? I prefer the Jan and Dean version, if that helps. I'm sure.
00:59:41
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um But no, the I mean, you know Nazareth for me, but sure. um Well, that's the one most people know, and it's good, but you should check out the Jan and Dean version, Stephen.
00:59:51
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Okay. Maybe I will. You don't know. It's good. You don't know my life. You know, Jen and Dean, like little old lady. Of course I know. i Yes. You'll never come back from Dead Man's Curve. A hundred percent. Yes. I i know Jen and Dean. i yeah I grew up on oldies radio. Like, please. Let's. yeah Steven, I wish we lived closer because I would we would have 45 party parties all the time because i have at least 245 RPM singles of basically all the really good shit from the 50s through the 70s. Nice. And we'd have a good time. I tell you what.
01:00:33
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I don't doubt it at all. what Oh, there he is. ka puwan ah So yeah, he does this and Love Hurts this year. And Love Hurts, I gotta tell you, not a good movie. um Now, I will tell you, he is a voice in one episode of The White Lotus, and he is great in that. But he's also in Zootopia 2 this year.
01:00:54
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He plays Gary D. Snake, ah who is, I'm guessing, the the snake character that's on all the posters. um I guess. yeah I haven't seen a poster of that.
01:01:07
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um But yeah, no there's a there's a snake. Like if you see Zootopia 2, the 2 is most of the time ah depicted by a snake. And I'm guessing that snake is played by Kehoe Kwan.
01:01:18
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ah But yeah, no, love Kehoe Kwan. Glad he has his Oscar. um Could not have gone to a more deserving guy for a more more deserving performance. I love him and everything everywhere all at once.
01:01:29
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ah But the Russos produced everything everywhere all at once. So that's how they get... Quan for this movie...
01:01:39
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What? um Like he quit acting for a while. He didn't know that creative came back. That's the tragic thing. Yeah. He was kind of like he couldn't find roles. So he became a like a fight choreographer for a while, um which is why he does all those badass fight shit in everything everywhere all at once. But that movie kind of brings him back. And like he was at a point where he's just like, I i might need to just be done with Hollywood. Like there's nothing else here for me.
01:02:08
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um And he had been in, i was um
01:02:14
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in Cino man, past episode of the show in Cino man. And I think we shouted him out on that episode. Like he plays like one of the nerdy science students. um And he and Brendan Fraser both won Oscars that year.
01:02:25
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um Like, which is kind of cool that two of the actors from Encino man straight up won, ah won Oscars that year.
01:02:36
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can't hear you.
01:02:39
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Did you watch the ah l LOL? Did you watch the um career retrospective that Brendan Fraser did like on GQ's YouTube channel? last I did not, no. You need check that out. I thought of you a few times during it.
01:02:55
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Yeah? Yeah, you should check it out. And he does talk about Encino Man favorably. he talks about everything everything favorably. he's such a That's another dude. I'd love to hang out with that guy. cause He's just such a sweet dude.
01:03:08
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so I would absolutely just like love to grab a beer with or a coffee with him and just like hang out and just listen to him tell stories. Honestly, like if if I ever meet like any of these famous people like out in the wild, I really just want them to tell me stories. like Just tell me the stories...
01:03:23
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of these like people that you knew, like I was thinking about it while watching twin Pixar return today. i was like, if I ever meet Laura Dern, I'm just going to be like, tell me all about David Lynch, please. And thank you. yeah Like, please. And thank you. Tell me all about David Lynch. Cause I want to know.
01:03:40
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Um, but, or in the same with Naomi Watts, like I would, I would be flirting hardcore with Naomi Watts cause she is beautiful, but like, I'd also be like, tell me all about David Lynch though.
01:03:52
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Um, and i You know, he was the one that convinced her to do the Peter Jackson King Kong, right?
01:04:00
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ah ah I guess. No. did I? What? When he was in, um when she, she, she was offered King Kong and she was like, should I do it? And she called David Are going to the voice? You're going to do the voice. Aren't you fucking a, I'm going to do the voice. And yes i certainly i can' go he says, Naomi, anyone who is held in the hand of King Kong is a star for life.
01:04:27
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That was good. That was good. Thank you. You've seen the Fablemans by now, right? like You saw them as John Ford, right? You own fucking piece of shit. but i You got that of the Fablemans, homie? I got that fucking 4K. You fucking got that 4K.
01:04:43
Speaker
I got that too. But based on my enjoyment, sale viewing and enjoyment of it, not... I mean, I had seen it is the thing. Steven, watch it, man. I'm i'm gonna.
01:04:58
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Your gal would like it. Come on, pop it on. Michelle Williams. Holy shit. Paul Dano. I mean, I love, unlike, unlike Quentin Tarantino, I do love Paul Dano. So Seth Rogen, he pops in for a bit and he's fantastic. And, and what's the guy? Oh gosh. I'm so mad. I can't think of his name. Richard.
01:05:21
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Kind. um Yes. He pops in for a bit. He pops in for a bit, and he is delightful, Stephen. I feel like any movie about a Jewish family needs to have Richard Kind in it. Between A Serious Man and The Fablemans, like I just want Richard Kind to pop up in all Jewish family stories from here to eternity. Richard Kine is peak Jewish uncle in The Fableman, Stephen. Watch it immediately after this recording, please. ok and I can't. I've got so much Twin Peaks to watch. But also also in A Serious Man, though. Have you seen A Serious Man? Yeah, yeah dude. It's kind of similar. Actually...
01:06:02
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it's kind of a similar character. The Fablemans kind of takes it a little further and makes it more of a, an actual kind of a, and I wouldn't say a linchpin, but like a more important part of the story. But yet it is a very similar character.
01:06:21
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You got a, you got Judd Hirsch in the Fablemans too, right? o Love that guy. He was, uh, yep. I like that guy as well.
01:06:34
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Not somehow, though, in the Electric State. You would think he would be. ah You would hope, but no. He not, though. As it happens, no so no no such luck.
01:06:47
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um I mean, like... oh that i This movie is like... so much of other properties that were successful, like, um like it's very Hunger
Film Pacing and Robot Empathy
01:06:59
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Games ask. And you've got like this one girl who's like trying to protect her sibling and going against the state to do it. So Woody Harrelson in kind of a mentor role. Yeah.
01:07:10
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Like she like hook, line and sinker immediately. i kind of wish that they had shaved 10 minutes off the beginning of that and had her and that robot going back and forth, like convincing her because the ease with which she was like, oh, yeah, you're my brother. Let's go.
01:07:32
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Right. That was a bit like... i will definitely say I enjoyed the second half of this movie way more than I enjoyed the first half. Like, the first half of the movie did a good job of setting up what was to come, but it wasn't as entertaining the second half.
01:07:49
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No. Like, once once shit kind of kicks into gear, once they leave the mall, basically, shit kicks into gear, like, it gets... pretty entertaining like up to that point i was like that like i could take this or leave this but like i hit the halfway mark and i was like hold on hold on i think i'll stay here for a bit see what happens you know it's entertaining but it still never gets good That's the thing that i you're right that like really perplexes me is like there's there's a part of this – I'm engaged. like Part of my like like childhood nostalgia brain is like really excited by this and enjoys this quite a bit.
01:08:32
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But like objectively, like looking at this kind of from outside myself, this thing is kind of a nothing burger and it's kind of a bummer. Yeah, it's too bad because it does have some good messaging, but the messaging is it's so heavy handed and it doesn't feel like a natural part of the story. It feels disconnected, like which is weird because the whole story is kind of a social commentary.
01:09:01
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It is. And it's also weirdly pro AI. Yeah. yeah like I was kind of struggling with that at the end. like They won me over, but at the same time I was like, oh yeah, but also no.
01:09:15
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but kill him The Russo brothers are the guys that are like, we could make a fully AI movie. And I'm like, fuck you. Don't fucking dare you assholes. like that is That is a big no, no, thank you. But the whole time, like all the like the the robots going, don't we deserve to live? And I'm sitting there going...
01:09:36
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Is this movie pro AI? Like, is this movie wanting me to like a i Here's how you do it. Here's how you live with AI, Steven. AI should be treated like hip hop in the nineties. It's all sampling.
01:09:49
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So like AI, ah it's got to leave a trail as to where ah the influences are to what it outputs. So all of the influences that it pulls. Yeah.
01:10:02
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they have to it has to be cleared like a sample for a hip hop song. Sure. Right. Like it. The way that usually works is like the the person who has the rights to the original song that's being sampled gets a percentage of however much that song makes.
01:10:21
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Right. ah For example, um the the what's the fat boy slim song with the Christopher Walken video? What's that called? Choice.
01:10:32
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Yes, that song has so many samples in it that Fatboy Slim didn't make any money on that because all the percentages went to the samples. So I feel like if you're going to do AI shit, number one, use it as a tool and not a crutch.
01:10:50
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And number two, the motherfuckers that inspired it need to get paid. That's the only way I'm going to be cool with it at all. And that's never going to happen. So I'm never going to be cool with it.
01:11:04
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Right.
01:11:07
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Yeah, no, I, I'm inclined to agree with you. ah But, and, and yeah, I'm, I'm kind of not okay with AI at all, just because of how unethical the whole thing is on the face of it.
01:11:19
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um And also like I, as someone who is artistic, who will never make money off of his artistic endeavors, like it It's kind of frustrating that now there are like people who but get rich off of doing literally nothing and passing it off as art.
01:11:38
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And it's getting harder to like discover too. Like there are times when I'm like scrolling on TikTok and I'm like, this is kind of funny. then I'm like, oh, no way. Like it's fucking AI. Like it used to be pretty easy to spot and it's gotten more difficult. So yeah, that's true.
01:11:55
Speaker
That is true though. It do be, it do be like that sometimes. york we're all you you know More often than not. um But yeah, like this, like the whole like pro robot thing. And there was a part of me that's going like, is are are they trying to convince me that AI is good, comma, actually?
01:12:13
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um and i Yeah, I'm just kind of like, I don't like that. And again, knowing what I know about the Russos and their kind of attitudes toward that, i i was more I was it was not difficult for me to believe that this movie was trying to convince me that AI know it actually.
01:12:32
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It didn't. it didn't bother me in this movie because I liked the robots. Like the robots were not trying to like table, take over the robots just wanted to be recognized as sentient beings.
01:12:46
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Right. So like, and that, that kind of hits with anybody, you know, like you, you wouldn't want to be, you know, pushed aside and said, Hey, you're not a human being. You're just this, this thing we use, but they're sentient. So, yeah,
01:13:03
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Like in the context of the story is what I'm saying. In the context of the story, I didn't have a problem with it because I like those robots. Having just watched Predator Badlands, though, recently for the Pod and the Pendulum, it's good. It's very good.
01:13:18
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um and vi But I feel like that movie does that a lot better. than this one. I mean, sure the robot, I will say the robot designs are very cool, but the robot in Predator Badlands is played by Elle Fanning and fuck yes, Elle Fanning. a Big fan of the Fanning sisters.
01:13:38
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um Elle and Dakota both. As an an an android from the Alien series, right? Yes, she's playing a synthetic from the Alien franchise. Actually, she's playing two synthetics. Spoilers, I guess. for Spoilers, you're getting you're getting too far into it.
01:13:53
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Come on, man. I still haven't seen Prey. Get out of here. You still haven't seen prey I'm getting there. I told you when we did that last episode, okay? Like, we gotta do an episode on it.
01:14:06
Speaker
But how could we? I mean... um They're doing a sequel on Prey. Prey dose? They're doing sequel on Prey. Prey 2. um they But they released two Predator movies this year And both of them are in my top 10 horror movies of 2025 Yeah, animated one And Straight Up Badlands And Badlands, correct um And both are very good Both are in my top 5 favorite Predator movies of all time So like, yes, please and There's only like 7 of them There's 9 If you count the Alien vs. Predator movies, there's 9
01:14:42
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Well, because maybe we talked about that in the Predator. Like, I'm okay with those movies existing in the Predator universe. Right. And most people much in Alien universe. That's how feel about it. It's in the Predator canon.
01:14:55
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it it It's funny because... That's the thing. You don't see Predators showing up in Alien movies. But you see Aliens showing up in Motherfucking Predator all the mother time. Correct. It's kind of one of those like Predator like, yeah, we're in the same franchise and aliens like who are you exactly? I've never heard of you. I'm sorry. um but Do we know each other? <unk>s It's that kind of attitude. But yeah, like we get the Weyland-Yutani shit and you know, now that Fox and Disney kind of own all that shit, like it's easy to kind of combine that shit. I honestly I would. It always Fox though. Like they always could have done it. They'd always have. Like AVP was Fox. Yeah.
01:15:34
Speaker
Fox is always on both. yeah But but yeah now that but disney seems Disney, given their corporate synergy model, seems more willing to like start playing in that ballpark a little more than Fox was after the the burn of AVP Requiem.
01:15:50
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I'm kind of surprised they never did like a Die Hard Predator movie. Because Die Hard was Fox. Why don't you throw throw John McClane in a Predator? John McClane versus Predator? I'd be down for it.
01:16:02
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yeah I want to see Alien versus Predator versus Terminator versus Robocop. That's what I want. As long as it's original trilogy, John McClane. None of that those other two.
01:16:15
Speaker
Well, that's, that's, um and unfortunately Bruce Willis, we're not going to get him in another movie. No, and we love him and we hope he's doing well. I hope he's doing, I don't think he is, but I, I'm, I'm a big Bruce Willis fan. I cannot wait to cover ah Hudson Hawk on this podcast. Cause it's absolutely. Can we do that one too?
01:16:35
Speaker
can we do that one too Somehow can we finagle that? do Am I going to have to do it as the straight up? Don't make it as a straight up. We might have to burn a straight up on that one because I don't know. I'll have my dad on for that because that's his jam.
Actor Performances and Voice Roles
01:16:49
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Yeah. Yeah. My 71 year old dad will come on for straight of last man standing. ah That's the 1996 Walter Hill movie. I do like Walter Hill as a filmmaker. I had to explain to him who Walter Hill was the other day because we were talking about Last Man Standing. Speaking the Alien franchise, Walter Hill, producer of the um of the Alien films. All of them up to this point, I think.
01:17:21
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So, you know, good, good for Walter. I tried to watch, I tried, I started watching all the Walter Hill movies in 2020 and I got up through, I think the first 48 hours before I tapped out.
01:17:35
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i I think I started, um, that's too bad because future episode of this podcast streets of fire.
01:17:44
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Yeah, it's just that 48 hours is so good, Steven. It is. And it's not a movie that deserves to age well, but it does anyway.
01:17:55
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It doesn't deserve it. It's not the movie that aged well we deserve, but it's the... You know what I mean. so much of that and so So many elements of that movie do not, in fact, age well. So, yeah.
01:18:09
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Yeah, but as a whole. But, yeah. um But yeah, ah Electric State is the movie that we're ostensibly here to talk about. you I mean, you essentially get Chris Pratt basically doing his Star-Lord Han Solo shit.
01:18:22
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Yo, yes, but there were some vocal inflections that kind of summoned Andy Dwyer for me. ah towards the Towards the middle of the second act...
01:18:36
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There was some vocal inflections that really, really kind of made me think of Andy Dwyer there for some reason. And he got it he's also kind of got the out of shape build that he hasn't had since he played Andy Dwyer.
01:18:50
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Which I haven't experienced since park and Parks and Rec, why honestly. Once he started being in movies, he kind of like trimmed down and stayed trimmed down.
01:19:01
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No, and I'm just talking about like ah his vocal cadence and like just kind of the type of character he is a certain point.
01:19:12
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I got some of those vibes from it and that was kind of nice because Chris Pratt, he does his Chris Pratt thing and like, it's fine. And pretty much anything like I'm not going to hate on it, but Andy Dwyer is Andy Dwyer is Andy Dwyer and star Lord. I would say our Pete Chris Pratt at this point, he's basically animate. He's basically voicing every animated character from our youths that we loved. He's doing Mario and fucking Garfield. Yeah. Yeah.
01:19:43
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Regardless of whether or not he is right for those roles, like he's the guy that they're casting for all of those. was fine in Mario. It didn't detract from it for me. It was perfectly fine.
01:19:54
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He's the lead of the Lego movies as well. like hes worlds He's doing this all the time. o Tucker's doing the the Chris Pratt hand motion to stall out the yeah the Raptors.
01:20:09
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That's how they advertised it on Peacock when it came out on streaming. ah It was just, it was Jeff Goldblum, Chris Pratt, and Sam Neill just all like kind of slightly kneeling.
01:20:26
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with their hands out because that's the universal sign for dinosaurs to stop and don't eat me I hate it so much I do too that first Jurassic World was like whatevs but like fuck both of those other movies I haven't even seen that new one because I just don't even care anymore dude the the original Jurassic World is where I tapped out i was just like it this is fine and I have a feeling it's only going to get worse from here yeah And from what I understand, it in fact did.
01:20:57
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I didn't make it through half of the third Jurassic World. I didn't even get that. I didn't start the second one. So you you're one up on me. you you did yourself a favor, Steven.
01:21:09
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Right. Right. But ah but yeah, like Chris Pratt, like in. Yeah, he's he is the voice of every animated character in the world now. That's just like what he's doing these days, um which I mean, there's a there's an that he's reprising the roles of Garfield and Mario. Like that's a thing that's happening. I mean, you know, whatever. Yeah, because the Mario Galaxy and all that. Yeah.
01:21:32
Speaker
Correct. Yeah. And there's an untied. I never will. Fucking made money. I won't. No. No, thank you. But I could see that working. I'm never going to know if I'm right or not, but I could see that working.
01:21:44
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I don't think it would. Like, I don't know. For me, Lorenzo music is so much the epitome of what Garfield is. Bill Murray kind of has that lazy cadence. Like he could probably pull that off. Chris Pratt's like yeah too energetic to pull off Garfield in my mind. You think so? Okay.
01:22:01
Speaker
I do. I do. That's my opinion. that's fair. I don't know if I agree with you yet. I haven't really formed one yet. I haven't thought about it enough to form an opinion on that. But I don't know if I agree with you on that or not.
01:22:12
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That's fine. You don't have to. um Did this even get released in theaters, Steven? Tucker, it did not. It did not even get a qualifying release. There is no box office whatsoever. hope that they don't acquire WB. I really don't.
01:22:29
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They're going to. It's fucking happening, dude. Come on, Paramount. Woo. No, that's even worse, dude. That is legitimately even worse. Universal was the best bet, and they tapped out early.
01:22:42
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Oh, good. So this movie comes out. I want watch theaters, though, Steven. I do, too, Tucker. But you've got to understand, like, Ted Sarandos does not agree with you. Oh, good.
01:22:55
Speaker
So ah this movie comes out March 14th, 2025 on to direct to Netflix. So there is it is not have an item nine on the box office. Did you say item nine?
01:23:10
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Item line with an L. I thought you said item nine. No. um I thought it was a Bill Hader callback. My bad. Go ahead. No, sorry. um At number one at the box office new this week is Nova Kane, the Jack Quaid film, which honestly- yeah.
01:23:26
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You liked that one. I did. I have a good one with it. Based on your recommendation. I don't know when I'm going to see it, but it's on my list, Steven. I'll let you know. It's not like, oh my God, this movie so great, but it is a fun action comedy. a Saturday afternoon. Yeah. Yeah. And it's got fucking Amber Midthunder from Prey in it. And she is amazing.
01:23:46
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So, yes. Nice. She is delightful in that movie, as is Jack Quaid, a very winning young star. I like Jack Quaid quite a bit. love most of the Quaid boys.
01:23:57
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ah well dennis has his well yeah Dennis has his moments, and Randy has even fewer. Ooh.
01:24:06
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But we do like that Jack Quaid, though. Anyway. we We sure do like that Jack Quaid. At number two, one of my top five movies of this year in point of fact, Black Bag, the Steven Soderbergh spy film.
01:24:18
Speaker
I didn't see that, but I remember being really interested when it came out. But I didn't get around to it. Really fucking good. it Is it streaming anywhere? I feel like it should be because it came out at the beginning of the year. Yeah, it came out. really want to see that. It came out March 14th, actually, Tucker, if you believe It's sort bitch. Where is it streaming, Steven?
01:24:37
Speaker
I think it's Paramount. Paramount Plus. Oh, shit. I have that. ah Oh, no. and No, I see it. Incorrected. It is now on Prime Video. My my apologies.
01:24:48
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Oh. Sweet. Amazon Prime.
01:24:53
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But that is easily one of my top five favorite. I think as of right now, it sits at number three on my overall movies of 2025 ranking. I mean, you've seen some movies this year for sure.
01:25:04
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I've seen a lot of movies this year, and that is one of the best ones. At number three, the new Bong Joon-ho film, Mickey 17, in its second down from number one the week before. That was good.
01:25:19
Speaker
Not as good as Parasite, but Robert Pattinson is having a good time. He is, and that's the only good thing because it's such a waste of a good premise. Steven, they could have done so much with it. Instead, it just got so lazy.
01:25:35
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i agree. ah It's such a frustrating movie. ah so mad that movie wasn't better. But it is it is. Everybody showed up and they were there. Mm-hmm.
01:25:50
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And they did their best, but they could not... They just could not overpower just a really... Wasted opportunity of a script.
01:26:01
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I'm sorry. i have strong feelings about that because I was very excited about it. A lot of people were. I was so disappointed. lot people were. I have many issues with that movie. Can we do that movie sometime, Steven?
01:26:16
Speaker
Because it might be our longest episode. Like the Dune episode was four hours. I could do six hours on this motherfucker. oh So disappointed. So much wasted potential.
01:26:29
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I don't want to talk about it anymore. Moving on.
Top Films of 2025 and Sequels
01:26:31
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And number four in its fifth week, um down from number two, how is this movie still in the top five after five weeks? Captain America colon Brave New World, a movie I have still not seen.
01:26:44
Speaker
It's fine. I'm in no rush. And number five, another movie that is among my top films of the year. I would i think of this one is in my top 15. I don't know that it's in my top 10, but definitely in my top 15. It is ah The Day the Earth Blew Up, colon, a Looney Tunes movie. Oh, I like that one too, Steven. I feel like we're crossing things off our what are we watching list right now by going through this.
01:27:13
Speaker
Because it's definitely taking shit off my... This is in my top 20. It is, ah but it is still a movie I very much love. It is, it it is my number two. And yes, my number two animated film of 2025 after day, the air blew up. K-pop demon hunters.
01:27:32
Speaker
Oh no. i still My number three after K-pop demon hunters and predator killer of killers. Sorry. It's number three. haven't seen either of those, but you should see both.
01:27:44
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You should see both. I, you know, there are some people influencing me to see the K-pop Demon Hunters. ah Many people, actually. Several people close to me.
01:27:55
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But... It's fun. I mean It's fun movie. ah Okay, Steven. I'm just saying. You're the one that tipped it.
01:28:06
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You're the... Okay. All right, I'll watch it. Okay, so what? I'll watch it. Your kid probably love it, too.
01:28:14
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Maybe. Maybe. I'm just saying straight up. Maybe. and Number six, also new this week, something called The Last Supper. Is this a movie I need to watch?
01:28:24
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um In the days leading. Let me let me see the synopsis here. i had the synopsis pulled in the days leading to betrayal. A couple, a gathering of disciples unravels into a web of secrets.
01:28:36
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and hidden motives. As tensions simmer beneath the surface, trust is tested and loyalty is questioned. The Last Supper becomes a night where nothing is as it sees it seems and every glance hides a deeper truth. This feels like 100% my shit.
01:28:51
Speaker
Wait, is that the with the kid from Jojo Rabbit? It's in that and it's about like... Right? That's that kid, right? That red-haired kid? the the i mean You might be search over i might be thinking of the carpenter's son.
01:29:05
Speaker
With the Nicolas Cage movie? No, dude. No, dude. Not even close. It doesn't matter.
01:29:15
Speaker
Last Supper 20 I'm looking it up right now Bitch I'm looking it up right now um and I mean I did say bitch though I mean it is Moro Borelli is the the filmmaker Oh Robert Knepper Plays Judas Oh fuck In 100% in You tell me Robert Knepper's playing in Judas Fuck yes 100% in on it
01:29:41
Speaker
Straight up maybe. ah Straight up maybe. Because this I'm looking at it right now, and like I'm kind of way into whatever the fuck this is. Yeah, I don't know what this is exactly, but I kind of dig it. But you got like you got Peter, you got Jesus, you got Caiaphas, you got Judas, you got John, Mary Magdalene, Thomas.
01:30:03
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like You got all the all the major players here. like This feels like some deeply Steven shit right here. Is this going to be a future double feature with The Last Temptation of Christ?
01:30:15
Speaker
Mmm, Look at this. Maybe, maybe. Mother puss bucket. Yeah, I'm next. What's the next one?
01:30:26
Speaker
ah The next movie on the list is, hang on, I'm looking up the kid from Jojo Rabbit. You're still on that. I love that you are. I appreciate you for that, Steven.
01:30:38
Speaker
um He no, he is. He is not in this film in either of the films. He's in something called he's the voice of Walter Dickens in the film, the animated film, The King of Kings, which is where Charles Dickens tells the story of Jesus.
01:30:53
Speaker
That's also a Jesus thing. Yeah. So it it is connected. We could mention it in that episode of Oops, I'll Christianity Corner. if If we want. Sure, sure. That's you know entirely possible. But yeah, no, I am definitely checking out The Last Supper. That movie looks like, again, 100% my shit. um The number seven at the box office is Paddington in Peru in its fifth weekend down from number five. At number eight, the animated film Dog Man featuring one of my partner's favorite all-time FNL cast members, Pete Davidson.
01:31:29
Speaker
At number nine, a movie that just misses my top 10 horror movies of the year, but a movie I did see in theaters. It is ah Oz Perkins' The Monkey. Still haven't seen it.
01:31:40
Speaker
it's it's it's It's okay. it's Here's the thing. It comes out. It's pretty good. and then um Final Destination Bloodlines comes out and like eats its fucking lunch.
01:31:52
Speaker
Have you seen you seen that, though? Have you seen Bloodlines? I saw it in theaters. like My partner and I went and saw it in theaters. o Best since the original. And I love three.
01:32:06
Speaker
I'm a three apologizer. I put it at number one. I put it just above number five. They get it. They get They understand the assignment. Oh, rounding out the top 10, we have something called Last Breath, which I have no i have no knowledge of whatsoever. That is.
01:32:29
Speaker
Oh, that is that. um Oh, God. Okay. As soon as I saw the poster, I knew exactly what this was. This is the Woody Harrelson, Simu Liu, and Finn Cole movie about minors is what this movie is about. Oh, cool.
01:32:41
Speaker
Or no, Deep Sea Divers. Sorry, Deep Sea Divers. Oh, sweet. That's even better. So that's the top 10 at the box office again. no no room for the electric state released directly to Netflix. um However, this movie does have a Rotten Tomatoes score. It is whopping 14%.
01:33:00
Speaker
ah The critics can semperish lumbering along like a giant automaton. The electric state has plenty of hardware to back up. It's none but the spark that made it come to life.
01:33:13
Speaker
Or sorry, plaintive hardware to back it up, but none of the spark that'd make it come to life. There we go. That makes more sense. and Then, yeah, indeed. I am tired. It's been a long fucking month. It's been a, dare I say, it's been a long December, and I think there is reason to believe that maybe this year will be better than the last, Tucker. Steven, that's my New Year's song. That's the song I listen to every New Year's would it when it's midnight.
01:33:42
Speaker
i put that song on, Steven. My partner listens to Forget December at the beginning of every December, and I listen to the long December at the end. ah Oh, what does the cat listen to? He's trying to tell us. at this point He's been napping on the boxes behind me here. and Yeah, I've witnessed him. i've been yeah he's He's decided that it is time to wake up, so I'm going to let him out of the room. But not before I tell you, Tucker, that this movie does have 30 meta score based on generally unfavorable reviews from 37 critics.
01:34:15
Speaker
I mean, that's fair. I'm sure it has a higher audience score. Like it has to, right? It definitely has a higher audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. Like the, i hang on, I closed the window. Let me open it back up again.
01:34:32
Speaker
um the The audience score is a 67. The popcorn-o-meter is 67%. I think that's fair. person i think that like fair There's an audience to this. yeah Exactly. It's just not a huge audience. It's like, it's like, because I did notice Steven, after the first half, not only was the second half more exciting and more engaging, but also I was stoned.
01:34:57
Speaker
The fact that I was stoned did add to this. Like, but I still recognized that the second half I feel like was more engaging.
01:35:13
Speaker
h Then the first half, the first half has to do a lot of heavy lifting with the world building. and there's so much exposition in the first like half of this movie. it's kind of ridiculous. We need a movie that's just like what all that exposition is.
01:35:31
Speaker
Like, give me that movie with that robot uprising and like the wars and the scabs and all that. Give me that first and then give me this as like the low key sequel. Kind of like how Starship Troopers was like Starship Troopers was like this huge fucking movie. And the second one was this very contained in one location, like almost like John Carpenter's The Thing sort of zombie story.
01:35:59
Speaker
And it's not good, that's i had no but for the second but I appreciate it for what it is just coming off of the first one. And that's something you could have had with this, but it could have worked, really. Give me all that exposition in a movie and then follow it with this story.
01:36:19
Speaker
i have But I think the reason they may not have done that is because that's not what the book was. But clearly set up
01:36:30
Speaker
I don't know. I don't either. And I would have to read the to determine. Yeah, after we've read it. But like this movie, though the way this movie ends, there there's a two pronged sequel hook for this movie. One is Millie Bobby Brown basically saying, hey, we're out here.
01:36:49
Speaker
ah you know, come find us, I guess. And then the second one is we see the kid Cosmo robot that her brother has been inhabiting the whole movie, like sitting on a garbage pile. And then it comes to life.
01:37:00
Speaker
Like that's the ending. And that is, if that is not set up for sequels, I don't know what is, but a prequel movie, like during like set between 1990 and 1993 during the robot wars would be welcome in my mind, frankly, what what they would probably do is they would do that as a series.
01:37:18
Speaker
Yes, that would be a TV show, and they wouldn't be able to get Chris Pratt for it. So every – like, it would just like – they'd either – like, he'd either have a cameo in, like, one episode or – like – and it would just focus on, like, other people in the war, basically.
01:37:34
Speaker
Well, yeah. I mean, it was a big war. I'm told. They could do three seasons and never, like – I mean – You would still need to get like Woody Harrelson and Stanley Tucci though, because, and, and CGI Bill Clinton, because like those are important figures within that That's true. But like, that's the thing about this movie. It's not so much that this movie is good, but the thing that it, it's the things that it makes you imagine.
01:38:00
Speaker
Right. That are good. Like that whole Bill Clinton shit. Like you, again, a prequel to this fucking movie with all that shit in it. The potential of this movie is so much greater than this movie.
01:38:14
Speaker
And you know I love potential. I love Blair Witch too. i Right. Oh, God, you're that one. Okay. I'm that guy. i'm the I'm the one out of like maybe seven people in the world who really dig that movie.
01:38:27
Speaker
Yeah. Sure. Tracks. um And then, Tucker, we do now have the Letterboxd score still to to to figure. but What do you figure the Letterboxd score for the Electric State will be?
01:38:42
Speaker
This is a hard one because... I feel like this one is going to like naturally score pretty low, but that also makes it a target for meme reviews, which will score it really high you for the i will the memes. you know Just just to to give you, in and this may be cheating, and if it is, I'm sorry, not a lot of meme reviews from what I can see.
01:39:09
Speaker
Okay, so I'm going to say this gets a Son of a bitch. You got a.3 range. Okay, yeah. So got
01:39:23
Speaker
o two point one two point four it is in fact a two point one still got it you got just barely but you got it Look, you know, we narrowed this range to prove if like I was just like it was too easy or if I was actually good at this. And I am consistently good at this. I think you've only missed one. And that was the I think that was either one of the last couple of new episodes that we recorded. i think I've really found my talent, Stephen. How can I monetize this?
01:40:01
Speaker
that this is This is the question. i do not know. ah So before we give our reviews, I do want to read the review given by Brett sent a review in the chat.
Final Thoughts on The Electric State
01:40:14
Speaker
Because he going to be here. won you know again happened in but He was. he had to go find his his sibling in the exclusion zone. That rope that came along, yeah.
01:40:25
Speaker
Yeah, you know. and We were all there for it. um He said ah ah he he scores this 2.5 out of five stars, which is fair. And his review, ah his review, his his his full complete thoughts on this movie are basically this.
01:40:40
Speaker
This film is the most star studded middle of the road, milk toast movie I've ever seen. it is the very definition of a shoulder shrug followed by meh.
01:40:54
Speaker
And that is fair. Mm-hmm. That is fair. So totally and completely fair. So Brett gives it a 2.5 out of five stars. Tucker, how many are you giving 2025's The Electric State?
01:41:10
Speaker
I feel like this is at its core, a 2.5, as Brett said. But I think that the VFX in this film, like I said, this is the most convincing I've seen since the original Jurassic Park. And that's not something that I i say lightly, Stephen. That's a big deal.
01:41:32
Speaker
that That is a big matzo ball, as they say. That original Jurassic Park, when I saw that motherfucker in theaters... Blew my mind. I could not believe that shit.
01:41:43
Speaker
We all saw dinosaurs for the first time. and you Of course you couldn't believe that shit. God, Steven. And this movie, even though it wasn't as impactful as a film, like just how good it looked and how real it looked. And you know, 90% of that that wasn't actual people in front of the camera was green screen.
01:42:06
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And I and like so the the actors in this movie are just in a vote in a voice booth and their stand in on set is a tennis ball like that line and sinker. Your boy was in good or bad.
01:42:21
Speaker
Like this movie had my attention just because it was showing me impossible things and it looked true. Real. So like I say, had a score. It's a 2.5, but I give it a three because those v effects are just so impressive. I can't like I want to give it a whole. I i can't give it a 3.5 because that's too much for this movie. So that's insane. That's that is an absurd take. I reject that. Three feels like too much even. But damn, it does.
01:42:53
Speaker
They sure do. Such a good looking movie. I got to give it credit. i i gave this one a two. um Again, yeah it is far more fun than it has any right to be. and ah But by the same token, it sucks and is bad and it should feel bad. um So i'm I'm kind of like weighing those two things in my head. Like, did I have fun with it? Yes. Do I feel bad that I have fun with it? Also, yes.
01:43:18
Speaker
um Because I know that it's bad. And i i like I recognize everything about this movie is rancid dog shit. But by the same token, I'm like... I'm still kind of having fun a little bit. Like if I rewatch it, it that, that score will drop because all the novelty will have been watching this again. Absolutely not. I want to remember it as I do fucking way. Yeah. There's no fucking way. I'm going back to this movie at all. So it remains. And so that gives, that that makes our average score a 2.5 out of five. So there it is. It's like, is it a waste of time? no Yes.
01:43:53
Speaker
But would I ever watch it again? No. no Unless I had, like, for a podcast, yes, but, like, on my own volition? No. No interest. There is one, still one Russo Brothers movie that was supposed to get, like, a whole fucking franchise that has not been spun off yet that we will cover when Doomsday comes out. Is that Tom Holland one?
01:44:17
Speaker
No, not Cherry. The Gray Man, the one with Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans. What? I don't know about this. Should I watch this, Steve? what I would wait till we cover it on the podcast. It's called The Gray Man. It's on Netflix.
01:44:29
Speaker
It's Ryan Gosling. Is it G-R-E-Y or A-Y? E-Y, I believe. Okay, good. only I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. We'll be wrong again. You are wrong.
01:44:43
Speaker
Well, in that case, um I will just say this. i was wrong. Oh, son of bitch. The funny thing about that is even when I'm pressing it for myself, it's still your voice. I still, and I still have to ah put in the timestamp because you still got to go edit it. That's just, I don't know. More work. brett what did I love that. Brett, what did you feel about Phil about this movie?
01:45:09
Speaker
Fucking stupid.
01:45:13
Speaker
I mean, that sums it up. Fucking stupid. Pretty succinct. freedom Excuse me. I took a drink and they had any cups. Pretty succinctly, I would say. Yeah.
01:45:25
Speaker
We got there. ah So this is our last episode of 2025.
Patreon and Listener Engagement
01:45:31
Speaker
We hope you've enjoyed it. um Tucker, we got a little announcement we need to make.
01:45:36
Speaker
Okay. Usually we take right i'm I'm making the announcement don't don't i'm I am the host and like the the OG host of this podcast i'm even fucking look I'm just the color commentator I've got things other things going on so you know No, believe me. I know. we And that's part of the problem is we both have a lot of other things going on.
01:45:59
Speaker
um it and this this podcast has become increasingly difficult to schedule of late. um You may have noticed there have been more frequent uses of disenfranchised rewind episodes popping up in your feed of late.
01:46:13
Speaker
um And so we and and also my mental health has been ah let me just check my notes here. Bad. I'm Yeah, I've been ah deeply, deeply depressed is like for the last month and a half. so um you know for For various factors, not you know and it's it's fine. i'm i'm I'm doing the work to try to heal myself.
01:46:36
Speaker
um That being said, we are going to take a little longer than our normal one week off. um we're we're going to We're going to go on a hiatus after this. Do we know exactly how long that's going to be?
01:46:48
Speaker
Not right now. We're planning at least to the month of January. If it goes longer, if we need it to go longer, it will go longer. Otherwise we'll be back in February, but we have, um, with this, this feed will kind of go dormant for a little bit.
01:47:02
Speaker
Um, So ah that, that said, um we, we thank you guys. ah We've been doing this thing for like five and a half years now. It's been a while. um And we are tired. ah um We're also old.
01:47:18
Speaker
So we're going to, we're going to take a little bit of a break and we, know we will come back to it. We fully have, like, we're not abandoning the podcast. We are still friends and we still like hanging out and talking to each other. So I know we're going to come back to this at some point. I just don't know when right now.
01:47:33
Speaker
I will tell you this, at the very least, it will be before the next straight up because you know I will not let you skip a motherfucking straight up. It won't because oh straight up is the next straight up is January. um so we're And we're not doing it in January. We're taking January off. But that's just like the the regular four weeks of January, though. That straight up doesn't count, right, Steven? Yeah.
01:48:00
Speaker
I mean, if you say so, then we can we can push that back. That's fine. Damn it. We can give you one less straight up next year. That's fine. ah I'm okay with that. We'll have to negotiate that off mic.
01:48:14
Speaker
yeah that Yeah, that will definitely be an off mic conversation that I'm going to love to have for sure. Oh, bye. by But yeah, so after the holidays, so again, Merry Christmas. This is our Christmas episode. If you're listening to it on Christmas Day, Merry Christmas. If you're not, um yeah I hope you had a good one. If you don't celebrate Christmas, then I hope you had a happy whatever you celebrate, honestly. um Because that's, ah ah you know, I'm not a, I recognize that not everyone celebrates Christmas and I'm okay with that. Unlike, you know, some people who are really upset that some people don't celebrate Christmas.
01:48:50
Speaker
Look, it's ah it's a winter celebration. Like, why not? You know, whatevs. Like, you know, I don't believe in any of that business, but i i still do Christmas stuff. Like, i have a Christmas tree.
01:49:04
Speaker
I have Christmas trees. I make Christmas cookies. And not Jewish, but I love deep fried food and light. So, you know, Hanukkah is okay with my book. You ever do a Kwanzaa, Stephen? I did a Kwanzaa once.
01:49:17
Speaker
I have not. I am far too pale to participate in a Kwanzaa. An old roommate of mine, circa 2014, we we did it we did a Kwanzaa that year, and it was ah it was kind of dope as shit.
01:49:33
Speaker
Right on. i'm I'm glad that that worked out for you. I had never done one before then, and I haven't since, but yeah, it was pretty cool. Right on. I did a Kwanzaa once.
01:49:44
Speaker
Yeah. Anyway... Anyway, so yeah, we're gonna we're gonna take at least the next month off. We'll see. We'll reconnoiter and figure it out once once the month is over. but It would be good to come back just on a straight up, though. That's what I'm saying.
01:50:04
Speaker
what Okay, we we can we can talk about this later. I'm so fucking tired. um But yeah, so so we're going to be... we're we're going the the The channel will go dark for a little bit, but we are we're still here. We'll still be on... um uh, Patreon, patreon.com slash just in French pod. You can join at the, uh, the free level and still converse with Tucker and I, uh, you can also find us on socials. We'll get to that here in a second.
01:50:30
Speaker
Um, and, and we will definitely converse with you there, but, uh, but yeah, that's kind of where we're at right now. Um, just with the pod going forward, I just wanted to let you know, so you're not, you know, scratching your head why there's not new episodes coming out. Uh, that's why we're, we're going on hiatus for a little bit.
01:50:47
Speaker
Um, just to kind of, um, recenter and, and kind of re reconvene and and do some self healing, uh, think is going to be important for all of us. And also to, to let us figure out, you know, what Tucker's schedule is going to be at any given week.
01:51:05
Speaker
Yeah. It's very simple pattern. I'll just say, is it though? Yeah. I'll just send it to you. I'll share it on the calendar, you know? Okay. That would be helpful for sure. Yeah. yeah Um,
01:51:17
Speaker
But yeah, so that's kind of where we're and that's kind of where we're at right now. ah But in the meantime, you can again follow us on Patreon, patreon.com slash disenfranchpod. You can join us at the aforementioned free level. Join the official conversation of the disenfranchised podcast there in the comments. Tucker or I usually Tucker will respond to those pretty regularly.
01:51:37
Speaker
ah You can also, for five bucks a month, get access to our extensive back catalog, including ah the commentary that Brett and I did a few years ago on A Muppet Family Christmas. Tis the season to listen to the Muppet Family Christmas episode ah commentary. So go listen to that. That was a good episode.
01:51:52
Speaker
If there's ever a sequel to that, Stephen, is it going to be A Muppet Christmas Carol? We can do a cover. We can do – there are at least four, five actually Jim Henson Christmas specials that I know of. There's the Christmas toy. There's Emmett Otter's Jug Band Christmas. There's is Muppet Family Christmas. There's Muppet Christmas Carol. And there's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas. Yes.
01:52:16
Speaker
um There's plenty of options there. for And I told my partner we're going to be watching all of them on Christmas Day while we get stoned and drunk. Yes. And also Gremlins because, of course, because um it's it's still me. um So, yeah. um they'll say well That is – right.
01:52:34
Speaker
ah Exactly. Something like that. um But yeah, hit us up. Patreon.com slash just in French pod. Join there and and be amazed as as it were. um You can also find us. Oh, yeah. You shoot us ah a rating and review on. That would be a great Christmas gift that you could give us. A rating and review on either Spotify or Apple podcasts, wherever you get your podcast, five stars, please. And thank you along with just some, some words that of what you like about the show, just to help other people find us and, and hopefully enjoy us as well. Cause we think you're pretty cool. And other people like you would also be pretty cool.
01:53:12
Speaker
um You can find us on blue sky letterboxd and YouTube at disenfranch pod. I am your host, Stephen Foxworthy. You can find me on Letterboxd and Blue Sky at Chewy Walrus.
01:53:25
Speaker
ah And, you know, if you want to give me another Christmas present, you can buy ah my book, Check In, Check Out, on Amazon. I haven't talked about that in a while. ah you know You can check that out. Make sure add that to um the show notes because I don't think it's in there anymore.
01:53:39
Speaker
I don't think i think I took it out. Yeah. Yeah. And also check out the ah the podcast that I do with friend of the show. Hope but Hope Lichner. i Hope Lichner Stout. Wells University. We're also on a hiatus because i'm I'm still breaking down. It doesn't matter what podcast it is. I'm still having break. It's still Steven.
01:53:58
Speaker
it's still me um so that one that one is still on a hiatus also um steven my mental health is tenuous and best these days i'm so sorry steven i'm gonna be in i might be there's a good chance that i'll be in philadelphia in january oh definitely say it i think i should i think i should you think i should help our friend I absolutely think you should. Okay. Yeah. i i think she I think she would get a kick out of seeing you. and I think we'd have a time for sure. I'm going to get a picture of the two of you together and it's going to break my brain.
01:54:38
Speaker
The same way it did when three people that I knew from three different places that knew each other through me sent me a picture of the three of them together.
01:54:49
Speaker
ah It's a friend of the show, Sam Dumas, a friend of the show, Zach DeZuba, and a friend of the show, Murph Krajewski, sent me a picture of the three of them. I know i knew Murph from church.
01:55:01
Speaker
I knew Zach from plays and work, and I knew Sam ah through um our our our our wives or friends. um So I knew all three of those people from three completely different places. They all met through me.
01:55:16
Speaker
I was the one that like pointed each of them to each other. And at the very first night of A Show Worth Watching, which is the the show that that Sam works, that all three of them work on, ah they sent me a picture of the three of them like standing outside the venue, and it broke my brain.
01:55:32
Speaker
My brain fully just snapped. And I was like, this makes no sense. How do the three of you guys know each other? Knowing full well it was me. Steven, you... like They may have made that, but you are the architect because you put them together, dude.
01:55:50
Speaker
And i was I was a part of the original planning committee for that. It wouldn't exist without David. I was part of the original planning committee. humidity committee And then I moved to Chicago, and I couldn't be a part of it.
01:56:04
Speaker
Literally. that i moved to Illinois. That little town right outside of Gary, Indiana. called Chicago um but yeah so ah you can you can find me on letterbox blue sky at chewy walrus um and don't find Brett on social media he hates it when you do that don't do that don't do that don't do it ah he he not there and he don't want you to do that no more so don't do that no more and Tucker what about you where can we find you on the socials these days same spots as always i'm on instagrams and youtubes at ice 909 that's ic e n i n e the number zero and the number nine and this economy yeah and i post about once a month on my personal shit you do like uh there will probably be another post soon because jimmy's in town for the holidays so That's true. You you mentioned the other day in the group chat that you were picking him up from the airport. I did pick up from the airport, and I did not get home until like 4 o'clock in the morning, Steven. That tracks. You didn't have to work next day, did you? Look, no.
01:57:14
Speaker
ah Your boys rolled through Indy, downtown, east side, south side, just doing hood rat shit, Steven. i was going to say that tra that fully tracks. Just your boys.
01:57:28
Speaker
Just a dude's rock night. Yeah, dude. Driving it around. Having fun. Yeah? Yeah. As you guys are wanting to do. where Did you go to White Castle or did you go to Steak and Shake? We went to Denny's, actually.
01:57:41
Speaker
Oh, okay. Hoity-toity. I see. Little rich kids over here. some We're some bad dudes for sure. Yeah.
01:57:53
Speaker
Yeah, so expect some shit soon because Jimmy's in town and we'll have to do an annual, you know, ah some kind of post for sure. Also, Tuck Mugs still exists. I don't know what I'm doing with it, honestly. i Yeah.
01:58:11
Speaker
I'm sure something will happen with it eventually. i do have a new mug. I got a mug at the children's shoes children but children's museum, Steven. That's a fun museum. And it's one of those color reveal ones to where like, it's like black.
01:58:27
Speaker
You pour the liquid and makes a pattern. And it's space and there's a dinosaur in a space suit. I love that. I love that. I like it too. like it i I used to have a um a philosophy mug like that that did that. And whenever I would pour a hot liquid into it, like Rene Descartes would appear.
01:58:49
Speaker
oh no and it would or no, it would... I forget which one it was. like when it was i think when it was... There was nothing in it. It was Rene Descartes and said, I think, and then you pour the hot liquid and he would disappear and it would say, I think not.
01:59:01
Speaker
Hey, I like that. That's nice. Great, great philosophy joke there ah for like 10 people. But as a, as a philosophy major, as someone whose degree is in religion and philosophy, that's a great joke.
01:59:15
Speaker
First spinoff of tuck mugs, tuck underscore mugs on Instagram, by the way, first spinoff of tuck mugs is going to be that exactly. Yeah.
01:59:26
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. i' here I do still, I do still, I started unpacking some of the glassware that i mentioned last on the last recording that we did. Only one mug so far, and it is the aforementioned White Castle mug. So at some point I'm going to go to White Castle and i'm goingnna buy like a 10 sack and I'm gonna stuff a bunch of them into that mug and take a picture so that you have a mug full of ah full a muck full of White Castle sliders. Can we do that sooner rather than later? because i'm we don't know when I'm going to be able to get to White Castle.
02:00:01
Speaker
I can go get it. You want me to go get it? No, because I have to pee and I kind of want to wrap this up. Okay. Well, in that case, Tucker, let's wrap this up. This has been. Whatever.
02:00:14
Speaker
All right. Whatever. Whatever. Just don't post it on the fucking Tuck Mugs account. Not yet. this It won't be official. It'll be like a confirmation. but boom We'll discuss it. Right. Proof of proof of concept. um Yeah.
02:00:27
Speaker
But yeah, I want to put sliders in it. Like I had this idea to put like, it just, I have like a bunch of sliders coming out of the mug and I'm like, that's a fucking great idea. Why didn't I think of that before? Um, at least I thought of it before I submitted the picture.
02:00:38
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, so, uh, this has been our last episode of 2025 and, we'll be back at some point in the new year. Tucker, I'm sorry. I'm you, you, you just, is that a fucking old style?
02:00:53
Speaker
Yeah, It's my last one. i Tucker, I'm so happy. i fucking love Old Style. It's your jam. It is my shitty beer of choice. It's sweet, should I remember?
02:01:07
Speaker
but It is a little sweet, yeah. There's a bit of a... It's good. More than I generally like, but it's not... I do like it. you know what You know what makes Old Style taste as good as it can taste?
02:01:20
Speaker
What's that, Stephen? ah You gotta to take a shot of Malort first. I don't have that on hand. I was doing granddad instead. you'll meet you Hey, let me bring you a bottle of Malor for Christmas.
02:01:34
Speaker
I mean, yes, just so I can try it. You've never tried it. i don't know. I don't even know what it is, Steven. It sounds like mine. It is a Wormwood liqueur. It's not Merlot. It's Malor. It's a liquor.
02:01:48
Speaker
It's a Wormwood liqueur. I do like the liqueur, Steven. Liqueur. It's good. Like 99 cherries. That's a liqueur. And I like it. Here's the thing, Tucker. i if I get this for you, Lise is a liqueur, Steven.
02:02:06
Speaker
I'm aware. If I get this for you, you're going to need to hold off on trying it for the first time until we are in an active record. Okay. I'd be into that Patreon recording of me trying it for the first time. Yes. Tucker tries a Chicago handshake, which is a shot Malort and an old style. And we'd all do it. Do I get to hit my Penn Affleck here?
02:02:32
Speaker
Sure. Triple down. Yeah. I mean, it's just part of the evening ritual anyway is the thing. that's the ah you you go You go down on Penn Affleck as much as you want, man. I'm going to have a Penn Franklin here.
02:02:45
Speaker
don't know what tell you. ah but a penny in the Jets. Absolutely. Hey, I like that one. Yeah, you're welcome. There you go. Use it. I've been making a list for the last couple of days of these.
02:03:00
Speaker
Checking it twice. Tis the season, Tucker. You're not wrong. If you're listening to this on Christmas Day, chances are I am getting drunk and stoned out of my mind, and I will probably be drinking ah copious amounts of eggnog spiked with – I would be using eggnog as coffee creamer or just spiking it with whiskey. One of the two.
02:03:19
Speaker
um So, yeah. That's kind of where I'm at for the holidays this year. of fabric um So yeah, if you're listening to this on day of release, that's what I'm doing. um But yeah, ah happy holidays, whatever you celebrate. I hope you have a good one.
02:03:33
Speaker
ah And thank you so much for listening to ah Disenfranchised. I don't know why you do, but I'm glad that you do. um yeah Thank you so much for being a part of this thing, this very, very deeply silly thing that we have been doing for the last five and a half years.
02:03:48
Speaker
ah It means a lot that you guys have come with us on this. And it's ah it's a ta-ta for now. It's a TTFN, as to as ah Tigger would say. we are ah we're We're kind of stepping back for a little bit, but we're not gone forever. We will be back ah sometime in 2026 with new episodes and a lot of more fun stuff.
02:04:08
Speaker
But until then... I am your host, Stephen Foxworthy, for the very present Tucker and the very absent Brett Wright. Until next time, ho ho holy shit. I can't believe we talked about this movie for as long as we did.
02:04:21
Speaker
Maybe a little too present?
02:04:25
Speaker
Yeah.
02:04:29
Speaker
That's a good joke. Thank you. I don't care what you say. It's a good fucking joke. It feels like a year-end joke, you know? It's been building up.
02:04:40
Speaker
It feels like the kind of joke someone who's on the verge of a mental breakdown would give at the end of a podcast, really. I love it. I'm a big fan of everything that's happening right now.
02:04:52
Speaker
Glad to hear it. And with that, we're out.
02:05:01
Speaker
Thank you.