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E56: The rats are gone

E55 · Triple-T for Knife Makers
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We're back to the grind!  Some normality returns and now we get back at it.  Tune in and hear all about it!

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Denis Tyrell of Tyrell Knifeworks:
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Transcript
00:00:01
echo_blades
I love it.

Introduction and Co-Host Banter

00:00:16
Denis Tyrell
Hey everybody, welcome to the Triple T for Knifemakers podcast. I am your host, Dennis Terrell Terrell Knifeworks, and with me is the one the only, Jared Sandoval of the one and only Echo Blades.
00:00:30
Denis Tyrell
I don't know, are you the one and only Echo Blades? Is there another one?
00:00:32
echo_blades
i I don't know. I hope so.
00:00:35
Denis Tyrell
Seems like there might be.
00:00:36
echo_blades
I can't believe there would be two dumbasses to pick a name like that. so I'd like to take that.
00:00:43
Denis Tyrell
Okay, well... We're going with the theory that you're the only one.
00:00:46
echo_blades
Yes.
00:00:47
Denis Tyrell
All right.
00:00:48
Denis Tyrell
How you been?
00:00:48
echo_blades
Although I did have to put an underscore in my name when I made it.
00:00:51
echo_blades
so
00:00:51
Denis Tyrell
and Oh, yeah. See there.
00:00:54
echo_blades
I'm good. I'm good. I'm lying, but I'm good. I'm feeling...
00:00:57
Denis Tyrell
ah well, OK. Keep lying.
00:00:59
echo_blades
I'm feeling chipper right now. I'm all fired up. I'm ready to go, ready to have some fun, talk about all this beautiful stuff that's going on in the community. Well, not really just you. So my community.

Dennis's Busy Week Recap

00:01:11
Denis Tyrell
ah You know, I'm feeling like this is the first normal day I've had in like over two weeks because I went on vacation, was like super jet lagged for like three days.
00:01:24
Denis Tyrell
And then Koi came and then i had a class. So like last week was like a whirlwind right off of getting any real work done. Although it was fun, but you know.
00:01:36
Denis Tyrell
And then finally had a nice relaxing weekend. Didn't really go in the shop until like last night. but So yeah, finally back at it today. So being productive.
00:01:47
Denis Tyrell
Actually, it was a really productive day, so i was happy.
00:01:50
echo_blades
Well, that's really good to hear.
00:01:53
Denis Tyrell
So how was your weekend?
00:01:55
echo_blades
My weekend was... Hmm.

Jared's Men's Breakfast Meeting

00:02:00
Denis Tyrell
It was hmm.
00:02:01
echo_blades
That's pretty interesting. I just drew a complete blank.
00:02:06
Denis Tyrell
You know the weekend flew by if you can't remember anything.
00:02:09
echo_blades
Yeah, what did i do Saturday? Saturday? oh that's what I did. Saturday, I had the wonderful...
00:02:17
echo_blades
so um My name is Jared. I'm an addict, right? That's part of my life. And I used to participate pretty heavily in a 12-step program. And over the past couple years, I've been kind of removed, busy, life, lots lots of excuses all that good stuff.
00:02:34
echo_blades
But um this weekend, there was a ah men's breakfast out in San Andreas. So that's probably about an hour and a half away from here. um So I had a buddy invite me up there.
00:02:49
echo_blades
So it's been on the books planned for quite a while. um And I'm glad I i remembered, but I shot up there and um had a nice drive.
00:03:00
echo_blades
um they Again, you know, things are things are really busy and there's a lot going on. So I have too many things, ah lots of negative things, right? So to take a little quick drive, get my... um
00:03:22
echo_blades
mind in a place where it's not really work-related and just kind of cruising down. It was pretty cool. um And it's out into the country, so it's kind of a nice thing. But it was a cool time, man. I got there, met a bunch of people i haven't seen in a while.
00:03:37
echo_blades
um Heard a good message, and i Just was good, but I was tired, man. I stayed up way too late on Friday doing nothing and um came back home.
00:03:48
Denis Tyrell
Hmm.
00:03:50
echo_blades
And, you know, I

Visiting Jeff's Shop and Press Build

00:03:52
echo_blades
half motivated to get out into the shop, but I just ended up just hanging out with Lynn and watching some TV.
00:03:57
Denis Tyrell
So that thing was just a breakfast? Just go and hang in.
00:03:59
echo_blades
It was just breakfast. So it's breakfast. Like you go, it starts at like eight, you go, you eat breakfast and then there's a couple of speakers. And by the time I got out of there, it was after like 1230 or one. So it's ah it's pretty long thing.
00:04:11
Denis Tyrell
right.
00:04:12
echo_blades
but it was cool.
00:04:12
Denis Tyrell
Almost lunch at that point.
00:04:13
echo_blades
Yeah. Um, but it was fun. It was good. Good to see a lot of people, uh, get a little recovery recharge as we say, plug back in. um and then came back home, had a little restful thing, but then Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
00:04:29
Denis Tyrell
I was just going to do that.
00:04:30
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:04:30
Denis Tyrell
I was just going to do that.
00:04:34
echo_blades
yeah Sunday. We got to go out to, I went out to Jeff shop. Um, which we haven't been able to connect for it's been a long time.
00:04:43
Denis Tyrell
Oh, first all I'm go to cut you off.
00:04:43
echo_blades
but
00:04:44
Denis Tyrell
Jeff, thank you. I don't have to hear but Jared whine about, I don't get to see Jeff anymore because he's hanging with you and he's doing your stuff. So finally, Jeff, you gave Jared a little love so he doesn't complain to me.
00:05:00
echo_blades
Yes, all those things are true because i was very, great very, very, very hurt over the fact that you stole my friend. No. ah But um yeah, so we got to to to hang out and, you know, i don't want to get too much into the to the to the sidebar part of how it's kind of weird how this kind of transpired.
00:05:24
echo_blades
But he hit me up last week and was like, hey, man, I got a couple of i got some free time, little less busy than normal. Do you want to start the the press build?
00:05:37
echo_blades
And I have had all the parts to make my press for probably over a year and a half now. um But there came a time where making tools to make tools took a lot of time and you know, trying to build up the shop and then trying to find time to make time and to to just make. And then as soon as I got that time, like all set up, then work got really crazy and busy and all the balance was kind of thrown off. So it's just been on the side burner.
00:06:06
echo_blades
ah Plus I got you, you know, 20 minutes away and you know, it's that's convenient. So it wasn't like ah a need type thing. It was a want. But after a conversation that I had with you and and,
00:06:20
echo_blades
um and you guys were both pushing me in the direction to just to do my own, to to build, get the build going.
00:06:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:06:30
echo_blades
And I was kind of hesitant. I was fighting it. But anyways, then the next day Jeff hits me up and he's like, Hey man, I got some time. So I was like, all right. Okay. Writing's on the wall.
00:06:40
echo_blades
So we got to go out there on Sunday and discuss the build, start talking about the build. And we ended up just getting the first couple of, um we got the top beam,
00:06:52
echo_blades
cut the bottom beam cut, made some plans for how we're going to, um, set everything up. And, ah man, I got all fired up and pumped and started feeling like, you know, we had another cool, cool thing on the horizon and, um, you know, it's, it's all good now.
00:07:11
echo_blades
So, um, made a little reel about just cutting some I beams on that big ass bandsaw that he had. I don't know. I, I was going back and forth because I haven't been posting much lately and,
00:07:21
echo_blades
I was like, I'm really just going to post a video of like some cinematic views of a bandsaw cutting some fucking

Challenges in Knife-Making Projects

00:07:27
echo_blades
high beams, some fancy music. Bro, when I put it all together, I thought it was, I thought it was fucking cool.
00:07:32
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I haven't. It didn't come up on my feed. haven't seen it.
00:07:35
echo_blades
Yeah. You have me blocked, but yeah, they, uh,
00:07:37
Denis Tyrell
he's I hear enough from you.
00:07:40
echo_blades
it was pretty cool, man. I, I, I ended up just doing it just to do it. And, uh, but more so just to kind of talk about the bill view with just cutting those I-beams.
00:07:45
Denis Tyrell
ah So what'd you guys get done? You just cut steel. Okay.
00:07:52
echo_blades
Yeah, I'm serious. A lot of talking. I mean, it sounds crazy, but you cut an I-beam. um you know We finalize the measurements of how wide we want measure everything.
00:08:02
Denis Tyrell
yeah Now, you're saying I-beam, but it's really tube, right?
00:08:04
echo_blades
No, no.
00:08:05
Denis Tyrell
you know
00:08:05
echo_blades
we have but So the so the the vertical columns are going to be two, and but we're connecting them with I-beams.
00:08:10
Denis Tyrell
I see.
00:08:11
echo_blades
So we'll have I-beam for the bottom beam, top beam, and in the dynamic, we'll be, yeah.
00:08:16
Denis Tyrell
Okay, that's good. I-beam stronger.
00:08:19
echo_blades
Um, so it'll work out. We just don't have beams for the, for the vertical columns. We have the tube, but, um, so yeah, it's going to be, I'm excited.
00:08:27
Denis Tyrell
Got it.
00:08:31
echo_blades
I'm excited. But I, what I, what we learned was beams are not square, especially, I guess, you know, for the,
00:08:38
Denis Tyrell
What do you mean? They're rectangular, usually. what do you mean?
00:08:40
echo_blades
No, they're not squared, like true 90 degrees and they're bent all, you know, so we're trying to like kind of square shit up.
00:08:43
Denis Tyrell
Oh, no. Yeah.
00:08:47
echo_blades
So that was from cutting the beams onto the mill, trying to true everything up. And we were, we were both surprised by how like there wasn't a single parallel line that like but was true.
00:08:57
Denis Tyrell
I remember when...
00:09:01
echo_blades
Like it was, you if we got the top plane, you know, squared up then on the vertical shit, it was twisted and not, it was weird.
00:09:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:09:09
Denis Tyrell
I remember when I had mine all cut out, like the two tall beams, the top and the bottom, and I had it lying out on the floor and you could like touch the different corners of the beams and they would teeter.
00:09:21
echo_blades
Oh
00:09:23
Denis Tyrell
And I bet you it was out at least three sixteenths.
00:09:26
echo_blades
oh yeah. It was a trip.
00:09:27
Denis Tyrell
So, uh,
00:09:28
echo_blades
But this fucking guy, he pulls out these gigantic, I have never seen calipers this big. They were literally like three foot. They were, the case was, like it was humongous. They were, they were, they looked almost, it was comical to see how big they were.
00:09:48
echo_blades
Like when we think about calipers, right? We got our our our six inch calipers is pretty common, right? But if you ever see like a 12 inch one, those look ridiculously big.
00:09:59
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:09:59
echo_blades
This thing was, i mean, every bit of three, probably more. Jeff, tell me how ah big those are actually were.
00:10:04
Denis Tyrell
that now that sounds like a good little reel there you can measure something
00:10:08
echo_blades
Yes, it was good. Jeff, did you? Yeah, for sure. I'll fucking text it to you right now. They were fucking gargantuan, dude. I couldn't believe it, but, uh, yeah.
00:10:21
echo_blades
Um, so that was cool. That's what I did Sunday.
00:10:23
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:10:24
echo_blades
Uh, and then I went to work after that. So I drove to Oakland like the old days. Um, and then, and then I went to, but I did want to say something before we move on from that.
00:10:35
echo_blades
Jeff does really cool stuff in an amazing shop with like a huge amount of tools, like on, on a really grand scale. Right.
00:10:46
echo_blades
And we were kind of looking at some of the stuff that they had going, but I could tell you that the progression of my maker journey led me to walk into the shop.
00:11:01
echo_blades
It's probably been a good six months, eight months, like almost, you know, somewhere around crazy. Cause he was coming over to my shop for a long time. So it's been a

Amazement at Jeff's 50-Cylinder Press

00:11:09
echo_blades
while since I've been there, walking back in there and kind of like taking a peek and looking at things like how much we learn just by going through the motions and, and seeing things, meeting new people and talking. Like I was ended up kind of looking at some of the work they were doing.
00:11:26
echo_blades
And like, I was able to see the process in a way that, I just, it didn't, i didn't have the vision, the knowledge, the awareness, like there was I just couldn't put it together back then.
00:11:37
echo_blades
So, um, I was asking some questions. I'm like, Oh, okay. I see this. so this, you know, that's, that's one inch fucking stainless three 16. And, oh, there's a well beam.
00:11:48
echo_blades
guys are getting rid of that. And I'm like, these are all sheets and like how you put it together. and it was, it was really cool. I felt like, you know, like almost not, not done.
00:11:53
Denis Tyrell
No, that's good. Was Jeff impressed with your knowledge?
00:11:57
echo_blades
He's never impressed by me. I was way too mean to him when we were kids. So he's probably like, it's about time you dumbass. But they have a fucking massive press, dude.
00:12:10
Denis Tyrell
Like 300 ton? Like how big is this press?
00:12:10
echo_blades
It's like.
00:12:15
echo_blades
it has 50 cylinders. fifty cylinders
00:12:20
Denis Tyrell
Five zero?
00:12:22
echo_blades
yeah
00:12:23
Denis Tyrell
Jesus Christ. What do they do with it?
00:12:27
echo_blades
They form fucking metal.
00:12:29
Denis Tyrell
Oh, so it's like a cold press?
00:12:31
echo_blades
Yes.
00:12:32
Denis Tyrell
Dang.
00:12:33
echo_blades
Yes. I'll tell you more about it. but yeah Dude, 50 fucking cylinders. I was like, I mean, if you guys could see the dumbass look that I just put on, I know this is a podcast and you're not going to be able to see it, but my face was just utter amazement.
00:12:42
Denis Tyrell
Man.
00:12:44
Denis Tyrell
Wow.
00:12:49
echo_blades
If you could just close your eyes, take a small drip into the theater of the mind and just realize Jerry closing his eyes, feeling amazed.
00:12:51
Denis Tyrell
well
00:12:55
Denis Tyrell
but that That puts the hydraulic press channel to shame.
00:12:59
echo_blades
it It was fucking massive, dude.
00:13:01
Denis Tyrell
Did you get to see it run? Oh.
00:13:03
echo_blades
No. I didn't get to see it run.
00:13:05
Denis Tyrell
How loud is that thing? 50 cylinders? What's the motor that drives those?
00:13:10
echo_blades
it It takes up probably,
00:13:14
echo_blades
i don't know, 30, 40 feet of space just the just the press itself. It's probably fucking... Dude, it's it's fucking massive. It's huge.
00:13:24
Denis Tyrell
You need take some pictures that. Even Koi would be impressed.
00:13:27
echo_blades
Yeah. the park and Yeah. maybe sometime, but that's kind of the deal. Uh, but it was cool. It was cool. Kind of going through the process and like, you know, really Jeff again, and I've done this already. I'm gonna one more time. I'm never going to say it again, but Jeff's vision for our builds back in the day. I, like I said, I just wasn't able to, to, to see the potential and stuff like, and looking at the stuff now, I'm like,
00:13:53
echo_blades
why the fuck didn't we do this? Like we couldn't, we could have like really innovated and been ahead of the curve here. But anyways, you're right, buddy. You were right.
00:14:03
Denis Tyrell
You're pulling back the reins.
00:14:05
echo_blades
Yeah. I was like, no, it has to be a two inch belt and it has to go horizontal and it has to do this. And like, just based on what I'd seen. So it was, was cool.
00:14:18
Denis Tyrell
Good, good.
00:14:19
echo_blades
And then then I went to work.
00:14:21
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:14:21
echo_blades
But i did ah did go get a burrito and a banana shake. Sorry, Coy. Sorry.
00:14:28
Denis Tyrell
Someday you're going to take me there.
00:14:30
echo_blades
Yes. You will love every minute of it. Everyone has.
00:14:33
Denis Tyrell
All right. What's the name of this place?
00:14:36
echo_blades
Which one? The burrito is called Sinaita's and the shake is from Cecil's.
00:14:41
Denis Tyrell
Cecil's and Sinaitis.
00:14:42
echo_blades
Yep.
00:14:43
Denis Tyrell
Hmm.

Resolving a Facebook Encounter

00:14:45
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:14:46
Denis Tyrell
Huh. Well, I started my day in a little bit of an annoying mood after being on Facebook this morning.
00:14:54
echo_blades
Why? What happened?
00:14:55
Denis Tyrell
So, okay, so it has a happy ending, okay, or happier ending.
00:14:59
echo_blades
Whoa.
00:15:00
Denis Tyrell
But...
00:15:01
echo_blades
You got a massage?
00:15:05
Denis Tyrell
Not that kind of happy ending.
00:15:06
echo_blades
Oh, my bad. My bad.
00:15:08
Denis Tyrell
ah Though I did just get a bag of my wife before I came up here. but um but So I go on Facebook and I don't remember which of the knife groups I was in.
00:15:13
echo_blades
Okay, that's good. At least.
00:15:22
Denis Tyrell
open it up and I see a sanding machine that someone had built. I'm like, oh, okay, cool.
00:15:27
echo_blades
Oh.
00:15:28
Denis Tyrell
And it's got the same linear rails is mine. It's got the same motor. It's got the same controller. It's even got the same clamp to clamp down the blade. I'm like, okay, obviously he's looked at mine.
00:15:40
Denis Tyrell
Great. I have no problems of someone duplicating it, copying it, whatever. I did kind of expect to be mentioned, you know, inspired. I'm like, well, okay, maybe in the off chance he didn't.
00:15:54
Denis Tyrell
Um, but then I read down the comments and then someone did mention, Hey, that looks like It's mine. And he goes, oh yeah, it was inspired by mine. But that was like 20, 30 comments down.
00:16:07
Denis Tyrell
There's like 10 comments above that where it would say, hey, this is really cool. littleda And he'd respond with, and someone would ask him, what you thinking about um providing plans for these?
00:16:18
Denis Tyrell
And he goes, oh yeah, I'm thinking about it. Or someone would say, genius. And he'd say, thanks. And I'd be like, okay, motherfucker.
00:16:26
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:16:29
Denis Tyrell
now i'm mad uh because he didn't cop to it being inspired by mine until uh someone called him out on it so i messaged him and said hey it would be nice you did admit to uh um being inspired by mind that you at least mention it in the in the in the ah post um because a bunch of people were asking hey ah would you build me one all this stuff To which he originally responded, well, I'm thinking about it.
00:17:01
Denis Tyrell
But well he did, you know, we had a good conversation. He understood my point of view. And, you know, and ah I'll say that this has happened to me before, where someone has come to me when I posted a video on, I was making a mag chuck. I'm showing people how I make the mag chucks for surface grinding attachments.
00:17:25
Denis Tyrell
And someone came to me and said, hey, you really should, um ah credit Travis Words, who originally came up with the surface grinding attachment, which was like 10 years ago, and that's not who I got my idea with. But nonetheless, I still copied Travis. I still um credited Travis. I edited the post and credited Travis. It's just the right thing to do.
00:17:49
Denis Tyrell
So anyway, you if you're goingnna take if you're going to copy an idea from somebody and then you're going to post what you built, copy the original person you got the idea from. It's just a nice thing to do, particularly if they're selling it and ah trying to make some money off that, but.
00:18:05
echo_blades
I'm glad that you said the the last bit there because I was really about to just kind of lay into you of the the irony of you getting pissed off from somebody ripping something that you've done off.
00:18:17
echo_blades
But and i'm i'm being I'm joking, but you know I think that's that's funny because and and I appreciate you sharing the the the Travis thing with the mag check, right?
00:18:27
echo_blades
Because
00:18:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I mean, and I have no problem when people copying. It's going to get copied. It wasn't my original idea, though, you know, I do have a design that people have, a few people have copied, which is fine.
00:18:41
Denis Tyrell
But, yeah, just...
00:18:43
echo_blades
Yeah, I mean, we're, again, to be completely original and innovative is pretty rare these days, right?
00:18:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:18:50
echo_blades
And that's why when that happens, then, you know, those people deserve a, you know, a golf clap and a, you're fucking awesome and and a bunch of people ripping them off because it's just the way, that's that's the badge of honor, you know?
00:19:00
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
00:19:03
echo_blades
So, no, I agree. And I'm glad that worked out and that you guys were able to come to with a mammoth.
00:19:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and there was no hard feelings, and he saw my point of view, and I understood that he didn't do it maliciously.
00:19:10
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:19:13
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, it was it was all good in the end.
00:19:16
echo_blades
You just never thought you were going to find out or see the post.
00:19:20
Denis Tyrell
Exactly. That's what I think.
00:19:21
echo_blades
You didn't know you're a beginner Facebook fucking stalker.
00:19:28
Denis Tyrell
ah So I

Upcoming Instagram Interview

00:19:30
Denis Tyrell
got other news. I think you knew, you know this already, but I'm going to tell everyone, guess who I'm going to talk to tomorrow, tomorrow morning.
00:19:40
Denis Tyrell
I have an interview with Instagram. So I have a one hour, they are interviewing me and I told them, I told the guy who called me about, so how this started is they sent me an email, and I'm sure this is a mass email, saying, hey, we're looking for people to interview based on their Instagram creator experience.
00:20:08
Denis Tyrell
And I'm like...
00:20:09
echo_blades
I didn't get the email either, guys. Don't worry. You're not alone.
00:20:15
Denis Tyrell
um
00:20:15
echo_blades
you got a You got all six people going like, I didn't get an email. Why did Dinners get an email? I'm like, well, that right there, folks, is every day of my life.
00:20:25
Denis Tyrell
And well, just put some icing on that cake, and they're paying me, they're paying me to interview for ah ah for an hour of my time.
00:20:27
echo_blades
No, it's Evan. Yeah.
00:20:33
Denis Tyrell
And i when the guy called me, i said, well, you better buckle up because i got a whole community that is up in arms about what's going on you know, what's going on in our neck of the woods concerning Instagram.
00:20:47
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:20:48
Denis Tyrell
And he's like, oh, oh, that's great. We'd love to hear all this. I'm like, all right, you you get ready. So I'm actually going to record because it's a Zoom meeting. So I'm going to screen capture and record the whole thing. And I am hoping to have some sound bites from that interview ah to play on the show next week if it gets interesting.
00:21:09
Denis Tyrell
Because i want and i want to hear what they're going to say when I say, well, why are you purposely ah um filtering out knives? Why are you know, we know all the issues.
00:21:24
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, I think it's going to be an interesting discussion tomorrow morning. I'm looking forward to it.
00:21:34
Denis Tyrell
Hopefully it's not a bunch of canned, you know, hopefully this is a discussion and not, hey, we just want to ask you our 25 canned questions we ask everybody. So we'll see.
00:21:34
echo_blades
That's rude.
00:21:46
Denis Tyrell
If it is, it's going to be boring, but...
00:21:49
echo_blades
Well, Dennis, it's your interview to control. You can take it in any direction you want to. You can even scream obscenities at him if you wish.
00:21:57
Denis Tyrell
I just might.
00:21:57
echo_blades
You... We would all appreciate it, sir. the I'm just by chance checking my account status and... Oh, yep.
00:22:09
echo_blades
Still the same. so
00:22:10
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah. I checked mine the yeah yesterday, of the day before, and it has not changed. In fact, that's one of the things I'm going to show them on my phone because I have the extra monetization one that won't show me anything because every time I click on it, it says there's an error.
00:22:26
Denis Tyrell
So it's I've never been able to find out what the issue is.
00:22:31
echo_blades
Oh, that's a new one. See, that's why I don't look at that shit. I haven't looked at it in months and months and months, and I just looked at it, and now my my profile is banned.
00:22:41
Denis Tyrell
oh see, you're you're you're back to you can't be searched.
00:22:46
echo_blades
Correct. Because it says it shows my my bio um and says that that's in direct violation of community guidelines.
00:22:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:22:54
echo_blades
so Go get them, Dennis.
00:22:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:22:57
echo_blades
Go get them.
00:22:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. So we'll see um if anything comes out of that. I'm not that hopeful, but, you know, who knows? Zuck is making changes over in Facebook land. So with some other things that he's posted, we'll see if there's anything behind that.
00:23:20
echo_blades
huh You know where there is no um restrictions or blocking?
00:23:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, on the Baker Forge app.
00:23:30
echo_blades
That is exactly yes. Because you should go check out the app at Baker Forged and Tool and ah check out the the social media side of the app because we always talk about how it's amazing place to shop where they have every single piece that is available and up for sale available on the app and you get that wonderful ah bonus of getting early access to the drops as opposed to the website.
00:23:59
echo_blades
But if you are looking for some top notch quality pattern welded steel, you need to go check out coin the boys at Baker Forge and tool. ah They have um the ultimate etchant gator piss. And I'm, you know, I had this weird thing because I'm going to do this read because I wrote it down anyways. But um yeah, we already talked about the drop last week.
00:24:25
echo_blades
Somehow we got ahead. So Koi spilled the beans about what was coming up and that had already passed.
00:24:29
Denis Tyrell
it.
00:24:31
echo_blades
ah Normally we're telling you to go look at a drop that's probably not much available, but um um we're going to double up on that today. So thanks Koi. Appreciate that. The gift that keeps on giving Koi Baker.
00:24:44
echo_blades
if But we do have some really really, really, really, really cool news is that you now actually have the option and opportunity, i I should say, is to apply for employment with Baker Fortune Tool. They're actually looking for somebody right now.
00:25:00
echo_blades
There's a post on their Instagram page. Go check it out. I was heavily considering putting in my application. It would require a complete and total relocation to the area because that is conditional upon employment there that you can't be remote. But yeah.
00:25:14
echo_blades
and I might be, I might be going.
00:25:16
Denis Tyrell
I don't know. I don't think Koi is going to tolerate you staring at a piece of Damascus before you hit it.
00:25:21
echo_blades
It'll be a hammer hitting it. yeah I won't have to tap tap.
00:25:24
Denis Tyrell
but That doesn't matter.
00:25:28
echo_blades
Well, at least I would go relocate and get fired. And that would be a cool story. be something to talk about on the podcast. Anyway.
00:25:34
Denis Tyrell
i don't see you living in Tennessee for some reason.
00:25:35
echo_blades
yeah
00:25:38
echo_blades
Oh, that's that's the end goal, buddy. Somewhere out there.
00:25:40
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah?
00:25:41
echo_blades
That's the end goal. Yep.
00:25:42
Denis Tyrell
Hmm.
00:25:43
echo_blades
I've had enough of this. But... Regardless of my end game plans, you should go check out Baker Fortune 2, Baker Fortune 2s and three whatever the fuck I was just saying.
00:25:55
echo_blades
And fill up your cart with all kinds of cool shit and use the discount code TTT10. That's TTT10 for 10% off your next purchase. Go use the code.
00:26:08
echo_blades
Next time you go there, fill the cart up, get 10% off, use the discount code TTT10.
00:26:13
Denis Tyrell
That's right. Some exciting new stuff coming from them soon that we're not allowed to tell you.
00:26:18
echo_blades
Yeah. I mean, yeah. Huh? Huh? and
00:26:21
Denis Tyrell
you
00:26:21
echo_blades
yeah and And even if you're in Hothian and Canadialand, you can go get their stuff at a Maritime Night Supply. So he's got you covered.
00:26:31
Denis Tyrell
That's right. Go get it.
00:26:33
echo_blades
moving Hey, i sorry.
00:26:34
Denis Tyrell
So, i like I said, I finished the latter half of my week last week with the class. What?
00:26:42
echo_blades
ah Where's the fucking beep? but The news reel. Dude, you have to go check out. I saw this Instagram post today. there's There's this dude who's like setting the world on fire with these amazing jigs.
00:26:56
echo_blades
um He did another one today where he like fucking glued a knife into some wood to like help level it out. So you could use a a jig to do it. You might check his page out. Tyrell Knifeworks.
00:27:13
echo_blades
but Another amazing, stupid jig.
00:27:18
Denis Tyrell
That's what you wanted to say?
00:27:22
echo_blades
I'm so proud of myself. Tell me about that jig, dude.
00:27:25
Denis Tyrell
No, that's not what I was going to talk about.
00:27:27
echo_blades
I know that's not.
00:27:27
Denis Tyrell
i was going to talk about my student Mark last week.
00:27:31
echo_blades
Who cares about that?
00:27:31
Denis Tyrell
um And just that being, you know, the fun part of being, you know, a teacher and teaching people is when you get to see that aha moment in them where they figure out Oh, so he he came to me and he he's made a few knives and he's really frustrated with grinding.
00:27:54
Denis Tyrell
And he got there saying that he was really interested in trying the Tobin jig. And then I proceeded to tell him, I'm not going to let you use the jig. And here's why.
00:28:06
Denis Tyrell
And I said, i want, you know, if you were just coming here and this was an experience class, you know, and you weren't looking to to take this class for knowledge to make knives when you get home, then fine, use the jig.
00:28:19
Denis Tyrell
But you want to learn to make knives. I want you, I want to teach you my method of grinding so that you're going to learn it. And in, I'd say 20 minutes, he got to the point where he had pretty much perfectly flat bevels.
00:28:38
Denis Tyrell
And more importantly, he could see, yeah, like he had the methodology of, I'm going to put the knife, he got the flat spot on the blade. He got to the point where he could put the knife up to the platen, let go of the handle. So he's just barely holding it with his thumb and it's now flat on that on that facet.
00:29:00
Denis Tyrell
And he's like, oh okay, I get it now. Now that it's flat, now it's just pressure. And watching him figure that out, was a game changer for him and very rewarding for me. So that was cool.
00:29:15
Denis Tyrell
And Mark, you did an awesome job and you came out with a beautiful knife. So good job.
00:29:20
echo_blades
Very cool. Mm-hmm.
00:29:21
Denis Tyrell
Yes. But as far as, so he didn't get, he, he didn't use the jig and he was happy about not using it, but I used it today. Um, so I'm getting, I'm prepping the knife or I'm getting, I'm starting on the knife that I'm going to take to Dave Lish's house to do the frame handle.
00:29:41
Denis Tyrell
And I decided I would do something that I've never done, which I want this thing to have like, call it dual hollows. I want the clip to be a really deep, like a really tall hollow clip, like hollow ground clip, which I never do. They're usually always flat ground.
00:30:02
Denis Tyrell
and then a big hollow on the side of the knife i'm using the 36 inch radius platen to do the hollow on the blade and then i want them to converge in the middle or like a third down the blade you following what i'm saying yeah you feeling what i'm throwing down here uh
00:30:18
echo_blades
I am. Yeah. as As I'm falling asleep. now I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm totally joking. I'm with you.
00:30:24
Denis Tyrell
so it's not It's hard to get that 36-inch, or I find it personally hard to to use that 36-inch radius platen. And it's even hard for chef knives, like, getting that on the right side, and the right place in the blade. And that's where the Tobin jig is, like, shines.
00:30:44
Denis Tyrell
But I needed... This is a buoy with a clip, and it's like one of the curved clips, and it's two-thirds of the blade. So...
00:30:55
Denis Tyrell
you can't You can't use that that jig on a buoy like that. So I just made a little wood piece, if you haven't seen it
00:31:03
echo_blades
yeah you can use it if you you don't want a perfectly horizontal line you would be it it wouldn't be straight right it'd be angled on the line or
00:31:09
Denis Tyrell
it.
00:31:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but then, because I've already ground the clip, so the clip's got a point on it, and the point catches on the rest, because I've tried this before. It catches on the rest as you're trying to move it back and forth, and it's just all kinds of mayhem.
00:31:23
echo_blades
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:27
echo_blades
Yeah. Easy for nicking it and the tip.
00:31:28
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, it just, yeah, it looks like shit.
00:31:32
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:31:33
Denis Tyrell
So, gluing that piece of wood on the spine, they gave it a nice flat spine, and CA a glue in that there, and then shaping that, that worked perfectly.
00:31:43
echo_blades
Nice.
00:31:44
Denis Tyrell
And it was very easy to um to do that.
00:31:46
echo_blades
Do you end up taking some off the wood?
00:31:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, well, i'll just off the sides, but yeah.
00:31:50
echo_blades
Just off the side? Yeah.
00:31:52
Denis Tyrell
But that was like, because it was was half an inch or three-quarter inch when I put it on there, and I just had to grind it down.
00:31:56
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:31:58
Denis Tyrell
But I also made a new rest for the top of the Tobin jig.
00:32:02
echo_blades
I saw that. Yeah. i saw that little bit more surface.
00:32:05
Denis Tyrell
I wanted it wider.
00:32:07
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:32:07
Denis Tyrell
And I personally don't use the posts with the handle.
00:32:15
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:32:15
Denis Tyrell
I don't really love the handles, and then it's got all those little things in it. I just wanted to get rid of all that and I made the rest out of stainless steel so that I don't have any rusting issues.
00:32:26
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, it was a cool little project and um yeah, the the grind turned out really good.
00:32:26
echo_blades
Cool.
00:32:26
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:32:31
Denis Tyrell
It was just preheat heat treat grind. So it didn't have to be perfect anyway, but I'll finish it up after a heat treat.
00:32:40
echo_blades
nice
00:32:40
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, but it's a good trick. So anyone out there has Tobin jig, um go try it. And if you don't have a Tobin jig, you need to go to Maritime Knife Supply because our buddy Lawrence is going to have another, and everyone's asking me, when can I get the Tobin jig?

Maritime Knife Supply Restock Announcement

00:32:59
Denis Tyrell
When are they going to be back in stock? And I spoke to Lawrence, they will be back in stock the first week of March. So you better keep your eye open, your eye on Maritime Knife Supply because I think they're going to go quick.
00:33:05
echo_blades
Nice.
00:33:13
Denis Tyrell
I don't remember, I think there's like 30 or 50 maybe 60 in this order but remember last time 30 went in like hours so they went fast so uh keep an eye on it uh and go check out maritime knife supply for all of your knife making needs quick shipping everything you need uh for knife making abrasives handle material
00:33:23
echo_blades
They went fast. Yep.
00:33:41
Denis Tyrell
Um, steel, the, Oh, um, Lawrence just posted. He just got like, I don't know how many bars, like 5,000 pounds of steel, something ridiculous.
00:33:51
echo_blades
Yep. I was just about to say that. Yep.
00:33:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. So I need to go put an order of steel in myself. So yeah, go get it.
00:33:59
echo_blades
me
00:33:59
Denis Tyrell
Maritime knife supply.
00:34:01
echo_blades
That's right.
00:34:01
Denis Tyrell
Lawrence will hook you up.
00:34:03
echo_blades
He's the man. We're about to hang out next week. Looking forward to it.
00:34:07
Denis Tyrell
I know I'm jealous.
00:34:08
echo_blades
You should be. Tell me more about how jealous you are. I think we all want to know because Lawrence and I and the rest of the knife making community will be in Texas Doing it up.
00:34:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:19
echo_blades
Talking knives, showing knives, selling knives, doing all things Texas. um One of our our buddies, ah John Chandler, recommended... What the hell is the name of this place?
00:34:35
echo_blades
I wrote it down.
00:34:36
Denis Tyrell
Hmm. You're so ready for this podcast.
00:34:40
echo_blades
Here it is. Danes craft barbecue. I'm highly considering going there.
00:34:44
Denis Tyrell
Huh.
00:34:45
echo_blades
He says Heinz mines, blah, blah, blah. He said, this is a spot. So, but I've heard other, um, other people from that area tell me that there's, there's a lot better than the 1050 that I've been to and in and that time.
00:34:50
Denis Tyrell
All right.
00:35:00
echo_blades
So, uh, I'm looking forward to it. I'm all fired up.
00:35:03
Denis Tyrell
Hey, i yeah. And you've never been there. So like to Blade Show, I mean.
00:35:08
echo_blades
Yep.
00:35:08
Denis Tyrell
um Yeah, it's good time.
00:35:11
echo_blades
Yeah, I'm looking forward it.
00:35:12
Denis Tyrell
Tonight's venue. I will be sending a knife with you.
00:35:16
echo_blades
Oh, will you?
00:35:16
Denis Tyrell
Stop. Stop by next week. i already told Coop. that you're going to be bringing him a knife to photograph. so
00:35:23
echo_blades
Oh, nice.
00:35:25
Denis Tyrell
ah Because I finished...
00:35:25
echo_blades
Do I have to bring it back?
00:35:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you have to bring it back.
00:35:28
echo_blades
Ah, fuck. All right.
00:35:30
Denis Tyrell
I finished that dual buoy build, which was... Part of it was part of my Triple T last week when I did the etching and finishing Damascus.
00:35:42
Denis Tyrell
Jared has a puzzled look on his face, so he obviously didn't watch it
00:35:46
echo_blades
No, I saw it come up and I chose to watch something else.
00:35:48
Denis Tyrell
oh
00:35:48
echo_blades
on
00:35:51
Denis Tyrell
ah You're always asking me about this process, so you should watch it.
00:35:55
echo_blades
know why I have you. i don't, I don't need to watch your videos. I'm sorry.
00:35:58
Denis Tyrell
um
00:35:58
echo_blades
That's for everybody else.
00:36:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:36:00
echo_blades
um No, I did come across it and I somehow didn't get back to it. So
00:36:06
Denis Tyrell
This guy, this is the guy you're going to be taking.
00:36:10
echo_blades
very cool.
00:36:10
Denis Tyrell
Because the small one's already sold, so you're going to be taking this one. The Damascus on this, especially the guard, it came out really, really nice. the I'm showing Jared on my screen here.
00:36:23
Denis Tyrell
um
00:36:24
echo_blades
What pattern is that? Which which one?
00:36:26
Denis Tyrell
It's twist. But the guard is twist, um which matches the twist on the...
00:36:33
echo_blades
Those are some big ass lines.
00:36:33
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, it's twist.
00:36:34
echo_blades
I didn't even. that's yeah, that's really cool.
00:36:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I mean, it's pretty low layer. I think it's only like 30 layer twist. Yeah. um
00:36:44
echo_blades
i That looks, those are thick ass bands for only 30.
00:36:48
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:36:49
echo_blades
Yeah, that's cool.
00:36:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, over a pure nickel with a 1084 core.
00:36:55
echo_blades
Yeah, I love how that that edge came out in super dark.
00:36:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it did. Nice and dark and shiny like i like it. So, yeah. So, you'll be taking that to get a picture taken of it from my man, Jim Cooper at Sharp by Coop.
00:37:05
echo_blades
Cool.
00:37:12
Denis Tyrell
um So I'm happy about that. haven't had haven't had a picture taken ah but of a knife in a while, so i figured I better better get something in.
00:37:24
echo_blades
What was the last one?
00:37:25
Denis Tyrell
I think it was the sword. The katana, the silver katana.
00:37:29
echo_blades
The moon? Yeah. And at Utah?
00:37:34
Denis Tyrell
Wait, did I ask did i to get something taken in this? Oh, wait. No, I had something taken at Bladeshow last year. What the hell was it? don't remember.
00:37:44
echo_blades
I don't know, I'm drawing a blank.
00:37:46
Denis Tyrell
Oh, it was the... no that was the year before. I don't know what the hell. I don't know.
00:37:52
echo_blades
No, last one I remember is the Katana.
00:37:55
Denis Tyrell
I know it was the Ocean Sunset one, but I think that was...
00:37:58
echo_blades
That was years ago.
00:37:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that was the year before.
00:38:02
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:38:03
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, I don't know.
00:38:05
echo_blades
Cool.
00:38:05
Denis Tyrell
It's been a while. And I'm hoping to have a couple for Blade Show this year that I want to get pictures of.
00:38:11
echo_blades
Nice. Nice.
00:38:12
Denis Tyrell
So, I think I'm going to break down on the the Nickel Storm, the big buoy, the big 13-inch one.
00:38:13
echo_blades
Yeah, but...
00:38:21
Denis Tyrell
ah think I'm going to break down and do some carving on it. I'm going to take a page from Jordan's book and put a, not not quite as extravagant as he does, but I think I'm going to put some some carving in that one.
00:38:35
echo_blades
Interesting.
00:38:35
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I'm tempted to call him up, but I don't think he's going to tell me how he does it.
00:38:40
echo_blades
I wouldn't and be on a YouTube video. I'd be stupid. so
00:38:46
Denis Tyrell
which is why i'm not ah Which is why I'm not going to reach out and put him on the spot.
00:38:48
echo_blades
Don't fall for it, Jordan. Don't fall for it.
00:38:54
Denis Tyrell
So i I'll figure it out myself.
00:38:54
echo_blades
Oh, that's funny. I'll ask him for you. Say no. No.
00:39:03
Denis Tyrell
Oh,
00:39:03
echo_blades
Yeah. But hey, so if you are going to Blade, though, reach out to me. Let me know going be there. um want to make sure I see and talk to as many um ah the six people that are, you know, so if half of them go, that'll be three people.
00:39:17
echo_blades
um I want to make sure I hook up with you guys and say hi. Um, and yeah, all everybody else. Yeah. Just let's get busy. I'm, I'm getting stoked for it again. got, I leave tomorrow for Washington for the rest of the week, coming back on Friday, but, uh, be a quick turnaround before I know it. We'll be on our way.
00:39:41
Denis Tyrell
That's right. and you're going to see Koi there. you're going to see Lawrence there and ah maybe five of our listeners. We'll see.
00:39:47
echo_blades
Yeah. Micah. We're going to see Noah, but don't know if it's just a mouthful.
00:39:53
Denis Tyrell
Oh, Noah's not going now.
00:39:55
echo_blades
I don't think so. I don't think so, but that's right.
00:39:58
Denis Tyrell
Noah, he's saving up to come to California. That's why.
00:40:02
echo_blades
That's what's more important.
00:40:03
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
00:40:04
echo_blades
Yep.
00:40:05
Denis Tyrell
I wonder if... Matt from Rock Solid Scales is going to be there.
00:40:13
echo_blades
I'm sure he will be, but I can't, yeah i should have found that out.
00:40:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:40:16
echo_blades
but Matt, let me know for sure. I'm telling everybody you're going to be there. So show up.
00:40:24
echo_blades
Oh man.
00:40:26
Denis Tyrell
And Matt is the owner and proprietor of Rock Solid Scales, maker of Grip Tech. ah the grippiest um handle scales around. Great for kitchen knives, all kinds of knives, any kind of knife you're going to use in any kind of slippery situation ah like Jared finds himself in in his teens.
00:40:47
Denis Tyrell
um Get yourself some grip tech, put it on your knife. Easy to finish. You don't need to hand sand to a thousand. That's, you know, that's the great part. Hand sand. Would you hand sand that one too, 220?
00:41:01
echo_blades
220 or 400 and then blast it.
00:41:01
Denis Tyrell
2,2400 and then it. Nice.
00:41:04
echo_blades
Yep.
00:41:05
Denis Tyrell
nice
00:41:06
echo_blades
So I would be posting some pictures of that knife too. I'm just lagging on it, but, um, that was pretty cool. But you know what, you know what else they make the grip tech, uh, which is awesome stuff, but you know, you can also go, they have a good selection of some stabilized woods too. I was checking out the page today and I saw some quilted maple and a bunch of other um other types of handle material as well. So they're not just a a one trick pony. They got it all.
00:41:31
echo_blades
I did check out, they got some cool um iron wood burl ah grip tech.
00:41:37
Denis Tyrell
Oh, Ironwood Burl Grip Tech.
00:41:37
echo_blades
It looks super fucking dope, dude. Like it was really, yeah uh the black widow ocean foam um and many many other styles and stuff and one of the big one of the cool things that he's doing that um i'm digging is that you can also buy ah sheets of grip tech too so not just single handle skills so if you're you know got a ah production style game going you can buy a sheet of it save some money get some more bang for your buck and uh
00:41:49
Denis Tyrell
I'm intrigued.
00:42:09
echo_blades
do many more knives with the grippy grip tech. So go check it out.
00:42:12
Denis Tyrell
And even if it's not production, I love buying the stuff in sheets because then you can, you get more out of it and it's cheaper.
00:42:18
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent, a hundred percent, hundred percent.
00:42:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:42:21
echo_blades
It's good stuff. But yeah, when you go load up that cart with all that awesome handle material, make sure you use the discount code triple T 10 for 10% off. That's tt T T T 10. That's two T's plus another T and then number 10. Yes.
00:42:35
Denis Tyrell
Nice. Uh, another thing Oh, Oh, what, what, Oh, Oh,
00:42:36
echo_blades
yes Oh, oh, good, good transition. So after I finished up that knife, you know what I did?
00:42:45
Denis Tyrell
What did you do? Tell me.
00:42:47
echo_blades
I lathered it up. with Pelican oil and holy shit. Did that stuff come to life? Really, really awesome. So if you're in the market for some premium, uh, protective wax, uh, make sure you go check out Travis Haynes at Pelican paste. They got a hard wax, soft wax, Pelican oil, like I just said, hand solved soap, um, and all the citrusy scent that you can handle one person, one can so much beautiful scent.
00:43:16
echo_blades
Uh,
00:43:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and Pelican Paste was featured on ah very incredible video from Triple T last week. So go check that out too.
00:43:27
echo_blades
that's a That's awesome. Good shout out. Good product. Good dude. PelicanPaste.com. And also the custom tins.
00:43:37
echo_blades
ah He's got you covered. All your needs. Discount code TTT10 for 10% off. Go get it.
00:43:44
Denis Tyrell
Go get it. Smells like oranges. Can't beat it.
00:43:47
echo_blades
Citrusy. Citrusy. Citrusy. Sunday.
00:43:52
Denis Tyrell
I should, maybe I should make it. I got about a bushel of lemons in my backyard. I should make a competing lemons scented product. I'm just kidding. I'm not going to do that.
00:44:03
Denis Tyrell
That sounds like work.
00:44:05
echo_blades
That is working. Oranges are way better than lemons, dude. Come on.
00:44:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. You don't want your project your ah you're a product associated with lemons.
00:44:15
echo_blades
Yeah, it smells like dish soap.
00:44:18
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, so tomorrow I'm back. I'm switching gears. I'm back doing restacking the stainless Damascus that we worked on last week.
00:44:32
Denis Tyrell
And I'm going to be joined by a local knife maker. ah Justin over at JW Blade Works is coming over. And he's going to hang out and make some stainless Damascus with me.
00:44:47
Denis Tyrell
So that'll be fun.
00:44:47
echo_blades
Very cool. Oh.
00:44:48
Denis Tyrell
Hopefully it's fun and there's not cursing involved, but I think, I think we got it dialed in. There was a lot of learning last week. So, uh, I'm confident we're going to make it happen. I got one tiny little billet. We're going to start with that, which is the remnants.
00:45:04
Denis Tyrell
You should see what's left of that. It's really, really tiny. The, uh, the first billet after I ground, ground all the bad stuff out of it.
00:45:10
echo_blades
oh
00:45:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. It,
00:45:13
echo_blades
Well, you guys even more after the day two.
00:45:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:45:19
echo_blades
Ooh.
00:45:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Cause I ground it after day two. I had to grind all that gunk off the sides and, and I cut it and restacked it.
00:45:24
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:45:28
Denis Tyrell
It's like two inches by two inches by about an inch. Like that's how big the billet is stacked.
00:45:36
echo_blades
Oh, geez.
00:45:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Not even sorry. Two inches by about an inch tall, two by two by an inch tall. It's really tiny, maybe an inch and a half tall. It's really, it's really tiny.
00:45:48
Denis Tyrell
It's enough to make a knife, a smallish knife.
00:45:52
echo_blades
and Are you going to restack that again? or
00:45:55
Denis Tyrell
No, no, that that's that's the stack I have that I'm going to be welding tomorrow.
00:45:55
echo_blades
you That's the stack? Gotcha.
00:46:00
Denis Tyrell
So if all goes well, then it'll be, whatever, 60-some layers. Close to seven. Close, I mean, we started with 29 layers, probably ground off a whole bunch.
00:46:13
Denis Tyrell
So it's probably around 70 layers-ish.
00:46:14
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:19
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:46:19
Denis Tyrell
So we can make something out of that.
00:46:21
echo_blades
So just one, one stack, one, one forge. Well draw out and we're done guys.
00:46:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. put ah Maybe put a little pattern, a little some ladders or something in it.
00:46:29
echo_blades
Nice.
00:46:33
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:46:34
Denis Tyrell
And that's it. and then ah But the other one is two inch by um three inch, and then they're each about a half inch thick. So that one's a decent size.
00:46:44
echo_blades
Nice. Nice.
00:46:46
Denis Tyrell
That was the second billet we did last week. So I'll be forge welding that one again, and that one tomorrow as well.
00:46:52
echo_blades
Oh, nice.
00:46:53
Denis Tyrell
So that should be ah hopefully a little more steel.
00:46:54
echo_blades
Cool.
00:46:58
echo_blades
Cool.
00:46:58
Denis Tyrell
But you never know with that process.
00:47:01
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:47:03
Denis Tyrell
Very, yeah very wasteful.
00:47:03
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:47:06
echo_blades
Yeah, that was it. Just lock in those temperatures.
00:47:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:47:09
echo_blades
Fucking tickle your pickle coupler. ah Make sure that thing's working. Yeah.
00:47:15
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and I don't know. we had We had a bunch of problems last week. Sometimes the PID just wouldn't... we weren't sure if it We weren't sure if it was the solid state relay that maybe wasn't tripping.
00:47:22
echo_blades
It was strange.
00:47:29
echo_blades
You know, it was, it's funny now, but like the, the irony of the fact that you literally said nothing's gone wrong with that, those relays before. And like an hour later, it was out.
00:47:45
Denis Tyrell
But it what we found out it wasn't the solenoid. The solenoid was fine. I ended up pulling it out of the garbage the next day.
00:47:52
echo_blades
Oh, didn't know that.
00:47:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it wasn't the solenoid. so Because I tested it again.
00:47:55
echo_blades
Oh.
00:47:56
Denis Tyrell
The solenoid's fine. We're starting to think it was the solid state relay that is going.
00:48:02
echo_blades
Oh, okay.
00:48:03
Denis Tyrell
Because it's funny because...
00:48:03
echo_blades
All right.
00:48:04
Denis Tyrell
Okay, folks. So what was happening is we would look and the PID would register... Like the temperature is like... 100 degrees over our set temp, but it's not turning, it's not um shutting off the solenoid.
00:48:23
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:48:24
Denis Tyrell
Well, but but the PID thinks it's off, but the temperature is still reading, of course, because it's not. So it's not the solenoid because it is a normally closed solenoid. So it's getting power fed to it.
00:48:38
Denis Tyrell
So that leads me to believe if the PID thinks it's off, The thermocouple is correct. The only thing it could be is the solid state relay. Because that's what's actually setting the power.
00:48:52
Denis Tyrell
So I think I'm going to change the solid state relay in that controller.
00:48:57
echo_blades
I was
00:48:58
Denis Tyrell
It's like a $12 part or whatever, maybe $20. It's not expensive.
00:49:02
echo_blades
going to say you can save up and yeah.
00:49:05
Denis Tyrell
Buy two.
00:49:06
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:49:09
Denis Tyrell
put them in Put them in series to make sure that...
00:49:09
echo_blades
Absolutely.
00:49:12
Denis Tyrell
You know, they both work.
00:49:14
echo_blades
Yeah, exactly.
00:49:16
Denis Tyrell
But, um yeah, I mean, but it did end up working afterwards. So, I don't know. We're going to try it again and just keep an eye on it tomorrow.
00:49:25
Denis Tyrell
But that's going to be my be my day tomorrow.
00:49:26
echo_blades
Cool.
00:49:29
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:49:30
Denis Tyrell
um I got a funny joke to tell you. Actually, I thought it was funny.
00:49:38
echo_blades
I'm sure I'm going to fall asleep.
00:49:41
Denis Tyrell
Well, it it was mate Nate, Nate Waple posted this and I thought it was hilarious. And we're going to test Jared's um knowledge of his heritage.
00:49:54
Denis Tyrell
Why do
00:49:56
echo_blades
We already did that last week.
00:49:59
Denis Tyrell
and we did?
00:49:59
echo_blades
Or the week before.
00:50:00
Denis Tyrell
We did.
00:50:00
echo_blades
Huh?
00:50:02
Denis Tyrell
did we tell that story? Did we tell that story?
00:50:06
echo_blades
Which one?
00:50:07
Denis Tyrell
the The one where you ordered and then she ah responded in Spanish and you looked at her like, who whoa, whoa?
00:50:12
echo_blades
ah Oh, no, no, no, no. no no no No, we didn't tell that story. I was talking about your your citizenship test.
00:50:17
Denis Tyrell
Oh, no, no. Your heritage, not my heritage.
00:50:20
echo_blades
This is my heritage. But anyways, go ahead.
00:50:24
Denis Tyrell
um Okay, now, hold on. I got it. I don't want to mess it up, so I took a picture.
00:50:29
echo_blades
You already did.
00:50:31
Denis Tyrell
No, I didn't.
00:50:31
echo_blades
You already did
00:50:35
Denis Tyrell
Okay, here it is.
00:50:37
echo_blades
you
00:50:39
Denis Tyrell
Why do Latinos call dwarf men paragraph?
00:50:48
echo_blades
Why do Latinos? Twarfmen.
00:50:55
echo_blades
Paragraphs. ter I don't know. God dang it.
00:51:00
Denis Tyrell
Because they're too short to be a full essay.
00:51:03
echo_blades
Oh, I get it. I get it. I got it. There's all those are. There's some good ones.
00:51:10
Denis Tyrell
ah Thank you for Nate Walpole for posting that one. I thought it was funny.
00:51:14
echo_blades
That's great. That's great. Capitalize on my heritage air quotes and my lack of grammar skills. This is fucking great. I was set up to fail on this one.
00:51:24
Denis Tyrell
okay Oh, so I'm going to tell you. Jared cannot speak Spanish, which I find exceptionally entertaining some days. And we're, we're at the, uh,
00:51:34
echo_blades
So do I.
00:51:38
Denis Tyrell
The taqueria right by my house, which we go to often. And Jared, looking Spanish, Mexican, whatever you ever want to call it, ah they always speak to him in Spanish.
00:51:48
echo_blades
Beaner.
00:51:50
Denis Tyrell
and And Jared always has a goofy look on his face.
00:51:54
Denis Tyrell
And then...
00:51:54
echo_blades
No, it's not goofy.
00:51:55
echo_blades
it's It's a very calculated response these days. I've been doing this my whole life. so But yes, it it it does provide entertainment for people that aren't familiar with it.
00:52:04
Denis Tyrell
But what what did you... want you you you You said...
00:52:06
echo_blades
I got a sparkling water. Agua de minerales.
00:52:08
Denis Tyrell
Oh, that's what it is. Yeah.
00:52:09
echo_blades
Agua de minerales. And she says, Agua de minerales? I said, yes. And then she says she says some word that I still don't know what she said because I nodded my head
00:52:16
Denis Tyrell
That's.
00:52:22
Denis Tyrell
She said a whole phrase and then you're nodding. Yes.
00:52:24
Denis Tyrell
And I didn't know what she said.
00:52:24
echo_blades
just
00:52:25
echo_blades
and that come And I was like, okay, yeah. And and i the funny part is, though, is that i for for one moment, I literally just said, I was thinking I should have just said, yes, the bottle.
00:52:37
echo_blades
And i was like, there's no way this could go wrong.
00:52:44
Denis Tyrell
She brings this fish bowl of a drink to Jared and it looked amazing.
00:52:48
echo_blades
Okay.
00:52:49
Denis Tyrell
It had all these.
00:52:49
echo_blades
One of you ordered a margarita, right? So we it it was definitely like in a margarita style cup.
00:52:56
Denis Tyrell
It was in a chalice. It was huge.
00:52:58
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:59
Denis Tyrell
And it had all some fruit in it. it had some spices on the rim. it looked delicious.
00:53:04
echo_blades
Yeah. at one point that, that, that bowl had like some shrimp in it. It looked like a shrimp cocktail type cup. Yeah.
00:53:13
Denis Tyrell
and then jared had to explain that he didn't really understand what she said
00:53:18
echo_blades
well the The bigger part was I wanted to make sure there was no alcohol in it because it looked like it was ah yeah I was about to have a fun time.
00:53:21
Denis Tyrell
yes
00:53:27
Denis Tyrell
it did look like one of those whatever they call those uh a beer with spice in it i forget what they call it but it wasn't it
00:53:34
echo_blades
Let me eat your lettuce. yeah which I've never had one, but yeah, it was interesting.
00:53:38
Denis Tyrell
so
00:53:39
echo_blades
So after they confirmed that there was no alcohol in it, I went to went to drinking it and it was good. It was all right. You guys didn't like it though, right?
00:53:49
Denis Tyrell
I didn't mind it. It was a little too...
00:53:52
echo_blades
It was weird. It was it was definitely definitely different.
00:53:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it had a lot of lot going on
00:53:58
echo_blades
Yeah, it was. But yeah. So my my my normal reaction to when that happens is I hit him with the radio announcer, Jared Voice, in the most perfect English possible.
00:54:08
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:54:11
echo_blades
So they'll be like, you know, they yeah they go and they go, you know, but is this what is this? And I'm just like, yes, I'll have a super burrito with carne asada, extra guacamole with fried beans and sour cream.
00:54:20
Denis Tyrell
Oh, well.
00:54:28
echo_blades
And then they're always like, oh, you're one of those guys.
00:54:34
Denis Tyrell
oh
00:54:34
echo_blades
well it's it's ah It's a lifelong thing.
00:54:37
Denis Tyrell
well
00:54:37
echo_blades
I used to tell people that because I work in construction and I'd be on site doing a survey lot of times and, you know, some crews, they'd they'd all be Mexican and they'd be talking and talking and talking. And then they like pick up that I'm not.
00:54:51
echo_blades
you know, jiving what they're saying. and so I'd be like, here I go, going into another job site and letting my people down one job site at a time.
00:55:02
echo_blades
ah
00:55:03
Denis Tyrell
You never worked at a restaurant i grew growing up, did you?
00:55:06
echo_blades
I actually worked at a restaurant with my father.
00:55:09
Denis Tyrell
wow.
00:55:10
echo_blades
My father had took a stab at a, at a Takaria one time.
00:55:10
Denis Tyrell
don't
00:55:13
echo_blades
It was really good. Dad, dad could cook, you but he tried to put it in the widest neighborhood in the worst location. It was in downtown Burlingame on Burlingame Avenue, way in the back of this like mall.
00:55:23
Denis Tyrell
know.
00:55:27
echo_blades
And yeah, it it didn't work out, but yeah, that was, that was a lot of fun. And my dad's even, my dad speaks Spanish, but he doesn't, uh, he, he, part of this, like, Hey, how's it going? Pretty good A bit of it. You know, this personality i have is is as a lot that comes from him. So he, uh,
00:55:47
echo_blades
He used to have the, ah when people would come up, he would say, all right, son, you just got to tell him, welcome to Lapa Lapa, where everybody's your friend. And I'd be like, dad, this is a fucking taco joint. Nobody wants to fucking hear that bullshit. Get out of here.
00:56:03
echo_blades
No, meho you got to do this.
00:56:03
Denis Tyrell
lock Wait, what what was the name of it?
00:56:04
echo_blades
but president and Lapa Lapa.
00:56:09
Denis Tyrell
Lapa Lapa? What is that? Does that translate to something?
00:56:11
echo_blades
It's like those, one of those trees, ah palm tree things you see on the beach.
00:56:17
Denis Tyrell
Palapa?
00:56:18
echo_blades
Lapa Lapa.
00:56:20
Denis Tyrell
Oh, La Palapa.
00:56:22
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:56:23
Denis Tyrell
Okay, it sounds like you're saying Lapa Lapa.
00:56:26
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:56:26
Denis Tyrell
L-A-P-A, L-A-P-A.
00:56:27
echo_blades
No.
00:56:28
Denis Tyrell
You mean La Palapa. Okay, I got it.
00:56:30
echo_blades
Lapa Lapa.
00:56:32
Denis Tyrell
I get it.
00:56:32
echo_blades
Yeah. So every time you're drinking a beer on a beach in Mexico, you're probably sitting under one of those fuckers, but yeah.
00:56:38
Denis Tyrell
Yes. Okay. Yeah. Grass hut.
00:56:41
echo_blades
Yep. Good times.
00:56:45
Denis Tyrell
I want to hear all about that. We're going to talk about that some other day.
00:56:48
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. It pops over to fucking cook for us. and That dude's an animal. He's an absolute animal.
00:56:55
Denis Tyrell
All right. I'm waiting.
00:56:56
echo_blades
Yep. Um, I think the rats are gone.
00:57:00
Denis Tyrell
You do?
00:57:02
echo_blades
Yep.
00:57:03
Denis Tyrell
Why?
00:57:03
echo_blades
Uh, cause cause the traps are empty.
00:57:04
Denis Tyrell
Why do you think this?
00:57:07
Denis Tyrell
Oh, maybe they're just smarter than you.
00:57:09
echo_blades
No, there they're not there no more. So I'm pretty confident.
00:57:14
Denis Tyrell
that's good.
00:57:16
echo_blades
It's been a week or so, and I got... There's no way I can explain it to make it entertaining, so I won't. But I set it up to where, like, if they were getting in, like, every time they got in, I i knew that they were doing because of this little fucking draft thing I have under there, but they would chew through that and push it out of the way, and then they would set up, and they haven't come in.
00:57:36
Denis Tyrell
they're not.
00:57:38
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:57:38
Denis Tyrell
I think they migrated to my house because when we were we had company over Saturday night, we were sitting in the hot tub and we saw two rats running across the fence.
00:57:47
echo_blades
I'm telling you they're here, dude.
00:57:48
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:57:50
echo_blades
I don't know what's going on.
00:57:51
Denis Tyrell
And Molly just loses her shit every time she sees one, chases it.
00:57:55
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:57:57
Denis Tyrell
It's totally unsuccessful and makes a lot of noise and pisses off the neighbors, but...
00:57:57
echo_blades
Yep.
00:58:03
echo_blades
can ah Speaking of, speaking Molly, our, our, our, Robert Dashiell Parr just celebrated a year. One of our rescue little poodle terriers.
00:58:14
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah?
00:58:15
echo_blades
Big day Sunday. Yeah. Probably had the worst birthday ever, but he didn't get shit. He just got another day in a nice home. But yeah.
00:58:25
Denis Tyrell
Hey, that's all right.
00:58:27
echo_blades
Happy birthday, Dash.
00:58:28
Denis Tyrell
Molly turned 11 last... No, this month.
00:58:32
echo_blades
Oh.
00:58:33
Denis Tyrell
Beginning of Feb.
00:58:34
echo_blades
Nice. Hey. and February dog birthdays. Yay.
00:58:41
echo_blades
That's so awesome. So I got to add a funny thing. So one of our listeners, uh, Brad Harrison of Brad underscore customs, we'll check him out.
00:58:45
Denis Tyrell
so
00:58:51
echo_blades
He had a question and he hit me up, uh, about it. And we we, we worked it out and got them all squared away. But his, his intro was fucking hilarious. He goes, Hey man, uh, I'm one of the original six listeners.
00:59:06
echo_blades
That's I fucking loved it, dude. I was like, that's that's that deserves a fucking shout out. because you know Yes.
00:59:16
Denis Tyrell
We love you too, Brad.
00:59:18
echo_blades
Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. and We're all squared away now, but I just wanted to give him a shout out. but you know It's always really good to meet one of the OGs of this massive total that we have of six.
00:59:30
echo_blades
I thought that was great.
00:59:31
Denis Tyrell
It might, if he tells two friends and they tell two friends, we might be up to 10. ten
00:59:36
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:59:37
Denis Tyrell
Wait, my math is wrong.
00:59:37
echo_blades
Well, we're back at six because He tells two friends.
00:59:42
Denis Tyrell
And they tell two friends that's.
00:59:42
echo_blades
They tell two friends. That would be 10.
00:59:46
Denis Tyrell
No. They each tell two friends. 17.
00:59:50
echo_blades
Oh, that would be 17. Yes, you're right. Good.
00:59:56
Denis Tyrell
Jared is not mathing very well.
00:59:58
echo_blades
I got to take my my pants off to count to 21. yeah.
01:00:03
Denis Tyrell
That's 20 and a half.
01:00:06
echo_blades
Touche. All
01:00:10
Denis Tyrell
no
01:00:11
echo_blades
right.
01:00:12
Denis Tyrell
Well, one one more sponsor I want to talk about because... ah Got to use my Two Bastards hammer last week with Mark, who loved it, and did a whole bunch of forging during the class.
01:00:23
echo_blades
Nice.
01:00:26
Denis Tyrell
So definitely, you need a forging hammer, go check out Two Bastards Texas Smithian Supplies. You're probably going to see Frank at um Blade, Texas. Did you reach out to him? He's probably going to be there.
01:00:38
echo_blades
I don't even need to reach out to him, but he's going to be there.
01:00:38
Denis Tyrell
That's his stomping up.
01:00:41
echo_blades
I'm going to be there and we're going to,
01:00:42
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, he's going to find you. He's going to make you wear a kilt.
01:00:44
echo_blades
yep We're going to do it.
01:00:47
echo_blades
I'm down. That's what I'm bringing for the beta suit.
01:00:50
Denis Tyrell
Okay, if that that happens, there better be pictures.
01:00:55
echo_blades
Not for you. You have to show up. What happens in blade, Texas stays in blood, Texas, dude. That's yeah.
01:00:59
Denis Tyrell
No, it doesn't. There's this thing called the internet.
01:01:01
echo_blades
It's called everyone is going to hide the fun from Dennis.
01:01:07
Denis Tyrell
ah But if you need yourself straight peen, cross peen, any kind of peen, to...
01:01:11
echo_blades
Hey, if anybody's interested, I'm going to throw this out here. I will happily FaceTime Dennis every time you want to just say hi from Blade, Texas while he's at home doing nothing.
01:01:24
Denis Tyrell
I will be teaching a seven-day class, but I will i will interrupt my class to take that call, at least the first one.
01:01:31
echo_blades
All right. Yeah. All right. Back to your peen.
01:01:36
Denis Tyrell
ah Go get yourself a hammer from Frank and Nita over at Two Bastards and tell them Dennis and Jared sent you. Go get one. You won't regret it.
01:01:47
echo_blades
That's right.
01:01:48
Denis Tyrell
Because...
01:01:49
echo_blades
Ain't it grand to have a fat peen in your hand?
01:01:53
Denis Tyrell
Jared can only imagine.
01:01:55
echo_blades
Yes.

Highlighting Eric Rivers

01:01:57
Denis Tyrell
All right.
01:01:57
echo_blades
That's why I bought one.
01:01:59
echo_blades
That's why I bought one.
01:02:01
Denis Tyrell
ah Let's do some maker spotlights.
01:02:03
echo_blades
Sounds good. Who do you got?
01:02:05
Denis Tyrell
ah Well, I was thinking of Blade, Texas, because I'm not going, and who do I see at Blade, Texas? always run into my buddy Eric Rivers from The Rivers Experience, so I figured I'd give him a shout-out this week.
01:02:17
Denis Tyrell
I assume he's going, because that's, I mean... It's only a simple five hour, six hour. I don't know. Texas is big. Who knows? could be a 10 hour drive.
01:02:27
echo_blades
don't know. He drives straight all the way through from wherever he's at to to Atlanta. So I'm pretty sure he's making this one.
01:02:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Um, but, uh, go check out Eric and all the stuff he does on the YouTube channel, the rivers, the underscore rivers, underscore experience.
01:02:44
Denis Tyrell
Uh, Eric is part of our, um, our YouTube knife maker challenge. I don't, I don't think he's ever missed one. And he's also does all kinds of forging um at a bunch of Ren fairs. He's hooked up with the Dragon's Breath, Dragon's Breath Forge.
01:03:03
echo_blades
I think you're right.
01:03:03
Denis Tyrell
um make Is that the name of it?
01:03:05
echo_blades
I think you're right.
01:03:06
Denis Tyrell
And it's a really cool forges that look like dragons. I'm really jealous of, but go check out Eric and check out his Instagram at the Rivers Experience and his YouTube channel, the um the Rivers Experience.
01:03:21
echo_blades
Yes.
01:03:24
echo_blades
What's he up to?
01:03:25
Denis Tyrell
i don't I haven't talked to Eric in a while. I'm probably not going to see him. Not probably. I won't see him until Atlanta. So say hi to him for me.
01:03:34
echo_blades
I will.
01:03:38
Denis Tyrell
So who do you have?
01:03:41
echo_blades
Oh yeah. I was just checking out his page real quick. Oh, look at that. He's got a forging progression. I should reach out to Eric. Holler at me. I love this. Very cool.
01:03:52
echo_blades
He does some really cool stuff. He's just getting busy doing all things, blacksmithing and blade smithing and two bastards hammering and
01:04:01
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. He's, he, he knows, ah Frank pretty well. They, uh, they've been in a lot of events together. So he was, uh,
01:04:09
echo_blades
It's a great YouTube channel too. I've watched a shit ton of stuff from him.
01:04:15
Denis Tyrell
I was going to say he was one that introduced me. No, it was Chad Kimmel that introduced me to Frank the first time.
01:04:21
echo_blades
Oh, okay. Hey, Chad, I hope you're going too.
01:04:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:04:25
Denis Tyrell
Oh yeah. That's another one you probably see there. Um, well, he's got a whole bar, So he might be busy, but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it because he's only over in Dallas, like 45 minutes away. So we'll kick his ass if he doesn't go.
01:04:40
echo_blades
Yes.
01:04:43
Denis Tyrell
All right.
01:04:43
echo_blades
Right on.
01:04:43
Denis Tyrell
Who you got for Maker Spotlight? Tell me, tell me.
01:04:45
echo_blades
the, the other, uh, sometime last week, I think it was, uh, someone reached out to me and said, uh, Hey, you're from the the Bay area I grew up over there and i still got a lot of friends and, um, I was checking it out and I think I met them in, um, it was in Atlanta, Atlanta,
01:05:08
echo_blades
No, no, it was Utah, Utah. So, uh, Keenison knives, um, they have, they make absolutely awesome folders. I think I was messing around with the, uh, the Fido, um, which was just, it's so smooth. So, so beautiful. There's a beautiful pocket knife folder.
01:05:29
echo_blades
Um, but crazy, uh, they got a lot of mono steel and stuff, but I'm looking through the page right now. would lots of Damascus stuff, just really awesome stuff. Um, they got a couple different models, bull terriers, another one, but, um, that is Kinison knives. That's K E A N I S O N knives, one word on Instagram. Um,
01:05:54
echo_blades
Um, and he he has 25.6 K followers. Um, and if you're not following him, make sure you go check them out.
01:06:05
echo_blades
Um, them the, the boys at triple D said, what's up and featured him on the, on the spotlight. And I'm going to see him as well in Texas. So yeah, really cool stuff.
01:06:15
Denis Tyrell
Nice. ah I'm looking through stuff. It's really awesome. I was not following him. Then I got down to the picture. I'm like, oh, I remember those guys.
01:06:25
echo_blades
Yep.
01:06:25
Denis Tyrell
I've met these guys before.
01:06:26
echo_blades
Yep. I almost walked away with one of those, those, uh, the Fidos. I was like, I was, if I hadn't already bought the, um,
01:06:37
echo_blades
the, the fucking, the, the blems.
01:06:39
Denis Tyrell
The microtech?
01:06:41
echo_blades
No, uh, the spider co this guy.
01:06:44
Denis Tyrell
Oh.
01:06:46
echo_blades
This dude, the Manix, yeah, or the Maximate Para 3 Blem.
01:06:46
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:06:53
echo_blades
It's like $100. But, yeah, really cool. So I was tapped.
01:06:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, they got some beautiful knives.
01:07:00
echo_blades
Yeah, really good stuff, dude. Really cool people, good dudes, lot of fun to hang out and talk. So go check them out.

Spotlighting Kinison Knives

01:07:08
Denis Tyrell
I love that kumai that's a ways down with the black, um the black... Big black, like half the knife is a bolster, it looks like.
01:07:19
Denis Tyrell
And it's got like copper, carbon carbon fiber.
01:07:19
echo_blades
Yes. Yeah.
01:07:22
Denis Tyrell
Very nice.
01:07:23
echo_blades
I'm not there yet, but like i one of the first knives I ever made had Koa with green liners and green pins. I just, that's my jam. I'm doing another one right now. um One of those, the, it's like a chupacabra-ish kind of build, but a little thinner version of it. It's going to have that same,
01:07:46
echo_blades
co-wood with uh green liners and pins but i saw one of his folders has that just i love that um i haven't seen the kumai oh i see it yep there it is yep yeah that's badass big copper washer thing right there around the pivot yeah that's that's bitching
01:07:57
Denis Tyrell
ah keep You see it? See what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah, it looks good.
01:08:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And I have some that copper-laced carbon fiber that I'm dying to try, so I think that's going to be on a Kumai folder on my table at Atlanta. Okay.
01:08:23
echo_blades
Very cool.
01:08:24
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And I'm going to use that new mammoth ivory that I got from Kirin's koa. So excited to try that out too.
01:08:34
echo_blades
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:08:38
echo_blades
Oh, that's funny. I just opened Instagram and there's a picture of some mammoth ivory. That shit's expensive.
01:08:44
Denis Tyrell
Nice. It is. It's very expensive. But I got some really killer pieces from Kirin. So I'm excited to use them.
01:08:55
echo_blades
Nice. He'll probably be there too.
01:08:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, maybe. i don't know. don't know. Where's he based? Don't know.
01:09:03
echo_blades
Probably out of Hawaii.
01:09:06
Denis Tyrell
He's not, though.
01:09:09
Denis Tyrell
That's jared jar Jarrett over at Hikoa.
01:09:14
echo_blades
Yes, Charretts.
01:09:18
Denis Tyrell
um We got one other little item to discuss, um which is not so good news.
01:09:18
echo_blades
I'm not going to bit of my turn.
01:09:22
echo_blades
Yep. I'm just trying to pull it up here.
01:09:25
Denis Tyrell
But before that, anything else that...
01:09:29
Denis Tyrell
We wanted to cover.
01:09:29
echo_blades
ah
01:09:30
echo_blades
let me see here. ah think I covered it. Oh no, no. It's fucking fantastic news. So have you ever had a sticker with your face on it?
01:09:42
echo_blades
Hmm.
01:09:44
Denis Tyrell
have not. I have not.
01:09:47
echo_blades
Well, sir, I have. And i have had the pleasure of people showing me this sticker in places all over the world.
01:09:50
Denis Tyrell
ah
01:09:58
echo_blades
had somebody show me one. They found it in Australia, New Zealand. um I did slap a couple all over Puerto Rico. um I never posted that.
01:10:09
echo_blades
Yeah, but I was in in one of the islands as well. Um, but I got a message from Toby and we voice chat a lot. Right.

A Picture Rescued from Trash

01:10:22
echo_blades
And this time he sent me this video and it starts off and it looks like he's digging through the trash. Right. And I'm like, what the fuck's going on? So he's like going through this and then he pans over and then I see my fucking ugly mug, the fucking nice Crocs thing. And he goes, you won't believe it.
01:10:40
echo_blades
My wife comes in my my area and she, and she threw you in the rubbish. Like, what do you mean? He goes, don't worry. I got you. So he saved me from the trash.
01:10:53
echo_blades
And then posted this reel the other day about, you know, pulling me out of the trash. And now I'm, I said, well, bro, go stick me on something. get Save me from the trash.
01:11:06
echo_blades
it So I am now, I am now proud to say that I am in, um, in England on a laptop, uh, as well.
01:11:07
Denis Tyrell
And did he? but
01:11:15
echo_blades
And just adding to the the many places, the nice Crocs picture of myself is. So. Very cool. I thought he put it on a tray. So when I was posting it on my story and triple T story, i thought I was saying from, from the trash to a tray, but it was actually a laptop, but yeah.
01:11:32
echo_blades
So thank you, Toby, from saving me from, from the trash.
01:11:36
Denis Tyrell
now But to Toby, when you're surfing porn, you're going to have to look at Jared's face.
01:11:43
echo_blades
Now it's on the backside. Yeah.
01:11:44
Denis Tyrell
ah
01:11:45
echo_blades
He will. When he enters into that moment. Yeah.
01:11:52
Denis Tyrell
ah sorry about your luck, Toby.
01:11:54
echo_blades
uh yeah that's cool
01:11:57
Denis Tyrell
yeah I'm going to have pick up some antics for this year.
01:12:00
echo_blades
yeah you are that's a big ass helmet uh
01:12:01
Denis Tyrell
and Put my thinking helmet on for that one.
01:12:06
Denis Tyrell
All right. I've had enough of
01:12:11
Denis Tyrell
ah right
01:12:12
echo_blades
yeah well i have to you but yeah back to the we have a lot of fun we love the community
01:12:13
Denis Tyrell
i've had enough for you
01:12:23
echo_blades
and one of the things I do love about it is how we, we rally around, our, our fellow makers when shit's not so good.

Community Support for Steve Pellegrino

01:12:33
echo_blades
And, we've all kind of got the news that, uh, we had a, uh, a fellow maker, Steve, uh, Pellegrino from Pellegrino cutlery, um, was in a pretty bad accident and is on life support.
01:12:47
echo_blades
And, um, there's a GoFundMe page circulating around, and I will get that on our story and share that as well here. But, you know, if you have the means and you're able to consider supporting and giving anything you can, then we're our best wishes and and all the positive vibes, prayers, whatever you're into for for Steve and his family during this time.
01:13:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, for sure. Sad news.
01:13:20
echo_blades
Yeah. Cool dude. Cool dude. Great maker. ah Always see him around makers camp and just, just horrible when you, when we hear this kind of stuff. So um like I said, if you can ah please consider that and, you know, send all that good, good vibes their way.
01:13:42
Denis Tyrell
Definitely.
01:13:43
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:13:44
Denis Tyrell
All right, man. Well, it's hard to leave the end of the show to on a downer unless you got a joke for us or something to end us with.
01:13:53
echo_blades
Dennis.
01:13:57
echo_blades
That's it. did
01:14:00
echo_blades
Yeah. You know, it's all it's, it is about good times, but you know, that's, that's, that's part of part of our deal here. So um yeah, that's, that's all I got, man. Good show.
01:14:13
Denis Tyrell
All right.
01:14:14
echo_blades
Good talk. I won't see you for after a while.
01:14:15
Denis Tyrell
we was
01:14:17
Denis Tyrell
Wait, but you're going to meet next week. You're not leaving until...
01:14:23
echo_blades
Well, you know, what's this cat's name? um I'm drawing a blank here. Justin. Yeah, you're. you're
01:14:34
Denis Tyrell
But you're...
01:14:34
echo_blades
Sorry, dude. You got to got to hang out with him by yourself, dude. I normally try to come and intervene to to help those people but that end up at Dennis's shop. But I ain't going to be there. So.
01:14:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but you're going to be doing the show next week. It's not you're going to be missing a show. um Are you going to be around? are you goingnna Are you going to be around for that show?

Travel Plans Discussion

01:14:55
Denis Tyrell
All right.
01:14:55
echo_blades
Yeah. I'm just not going to talk to you for the week, dude.
01:14:57
Denis Tyrell
Just making sure.
01:14:58
echo_blades
That's all. I know.
01:14:59
Denis Tyrell
I'm just trying to plan.
01:14:59
echo_blades
You talk to me every day. You text me all the fucking time. I'm just letting you, I'm to be busy. That's all.
01:15:05
Denis Tyrell
All right. You're going to be, but when are you flying back at a from Texas?
01:15:08
echo_blades
Friday, Friday afternoon. get back in Sacramento around like 435 or something like that.
01:15:13
Denis Tyrell
No, no, from Texas. When are you flying from Texas back? Sunday night?
01:15:18
echo_blades
From Texas? Oh, man, you fucking making my mind. I'm talking about this trip. I haven't got there yet.
01:15:23
Denis Tyrell
um I don't care about this trip.
01:15:24
echo_blades
Yes.
01:15:25
Denis Tyrell
I'm asking you about Blade, Texas. When are you flying home from Sunday?
01:15:27
echo_blades
Yes, I'll be back. I'll be back Sunday morning.
01:15:30
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
01:15:31
Denis Tyrell
So we're doing... No, I'm not out. Why do you think I'm out? I'm not out till the 21st.
01:15:31
echo_blades
And you're out.
01:15:39
echo_blades
Okay, so i got to deal with you for another couple weeks.
01:15:42
Denis Tyrell
That's right. That's what I'm confirming.
01:15:44
echo_blades
Okay.
01:15:47
Denis Tyrell
All right.
01:15:49
echo_blades
Get out of here.
01:15:50
Denis Tyrell
Bye. but
01:15:50
echo_blades
play play the Play the Olive Garden. Let's go.
01:15:56
Denis Tyrell
I haven't seen that commercial in a while.
01:15:57
echo_blades
I haven't either. But you can get endless breadsticks at Olive Garden. I can't even remember the main theme.
01:16:09
echo_blades
i think Koi's was way better, but that's a wrap.