Introduction to Triple T Podcast
00:00:16
Denis Tyrell
Hey everyone, this is Dennis Terrell of Terrell Knifeworks. I'm here with you folks for the Triple T for Knifemakers podcast. As always, I'm here with my dickhead friend, Jared from Echo Blades.
00:00:31
echo_blades
What's up, buddy? How
00:00:32
Denis Tyrell
that Well, you always got to be an ass. Jeez.
00:00:38
echo_blades
ah how dare you
00:00:41
Denis Tyrell
ah What's new other than being the usual?
Jared's Vision and Everyday Struggles
00:00:46
echo_blades
What's new? That's great transition. Fiery. That was on fiery, dude.
00:00:51
echo_blades
That was on fiery ice.
00:00:55
echo_blades
ah Not much, man. I'm sitting here trying to fucking crack the code on this can of Zin. But...
00:01:02
Denis Tyrell
you drinking wine?
00:01:04
echo_blades
That's Zinfandel.
00:01:09
Denis Tyrell
Oh, your chew.
00:01:10
echo_blades
Yeah, this is nicotine supplement.
00:01:13
Denis Tyrell
it have a childproof package? Is that it?
00:01:16
echo_blades
Yeah, you got to like line up the arrows in order to crack it. And my eyesight is getting really bad these days.
00:01:24
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah, tell me about it.
00:01:25
echo_blades
And and I can't really see it. So I lost my glasses again on Saturday. And I didn't have them Saturday night, Sunday and all day today.
00:01:40
echo_blades
bro. It's, it's like code red dev con 12. Like it is not even a joke anymore.
00:01:47
Denis Tyrell
What? See, mine are like off-the-shelf 2.0... two point ah you know, drugstore glasses so I can just walk into a drugstore and snatch another pair.
00:01:58
Denis Tyrell
And I've done that.
00:01:58
echo_blades
Well, I did have a pair of readers that were 2.0. two point zero I'm not, it's not that bad, but I've been having to wear them a lot lately. So when I take them off, like it's, I can't fucking see words and shit.
00:02:12
echo_blades
So it's, it's pretty bad.
00:02:15
echo_blades
So I ordered a bunch of like some emergency pairs off of Amazon. They're not going to get here till tomorrow. And then it dawned on me where I thought I lost, where I left them last. and And my daughter ended up finding them today.
00:02:25
echo_blades
So I got them back, but it was, uh, they're on my face today or right now.
00:02:27
Denis Tyrell
I was going to say they're on your face. so
00:02:31
Denis Tyrell
you could be You could be Rick and just walk around with an Optivisor.
00:02:35
echo_blades
I will wish it might be my future. I mean, you get like fucking 10 pairs of glasses in one with all the different visor lenses or whatever. But yeah, that's that's what's going on with me. I'm blind as all hell. And I just opened the Zen can and closed it back up without grabbing us in.
00:02:54
Denis Tyrell
Oh, well, senile and can't see.
00:02:55
echo_blades
Yeah. Yes. Yes. How
Dennis's Summer Preparations
00:03:00
echo_blades
are you, man? How you doing? How was your week?
00:03:01
Denis Tyrell
ah It was hot today. it was hot. I was like, I was tempted to turn the air conditioning on in the shop today.
00:03:09
Denis Tyrell
ah Well, you must have been hotter by you guys.
00:03:12
echo_blades
I was in the office for like 90% of my day.
00:03:14
Denis Tyrell
Oh, air conditioning.
00:03:16
echo_blades
Yeah. Freezing.
00:03:17
Denis Tyrell
No, I'm. I actually went and got the jet skis this morning out of storage so that got me all revved up for summer.
00:03:24
echo_blades
I thought you were doing that tomorrow.
00:03:28
Denis Tyrell
and I wanted to get them today and if I had to buy batteries I wanted to get that and in fact I don't even think I'm gonna take them in. um I ordered plugs for them.
00:03:39
Denis Tyrell
I checked everything out. I checked the air filters and all that other shit and it looks fine so I think I'm just gonna replace the plugs. ah charge out the batteries and I think that'd be fine.
00:03:51
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, excited to, it's been two years since I've had those on the water. So that'd be fun. We should go out to take a Jare Bear and yeah, that's probably the last time I had them out.
00:04:01
echo_blades
The last time was, yeah, it was the last time we went out with Jared. Oh, wow.
00:04:08
Denis Tyrell
Maybe one time after that with the grandson, I don't remember, but yeah, we should do that again.
00:04:13
echo_blades
That's a good time. It was fun. Yeah, I'm down. I am.
00:04:18
Denis Tyrell
Wait, how old is 16.
00:04:23
Denis Tyrell
If he takes the boater's license, then he could drive it himself, but he'll have to take the boater's license.
00:04:31
echo_blades
but Do I need a voter's license?
00:04:35
Denis Tyrell
Take it online. I have to take mine, too.
00:04:39
echo_blades
I didn't even know that.
00:04:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. No, it's new in the last couple of years.
00:04:44
Denis Tyrell
I was like... grandfathered in for a couple of years but because of my age but uh now i've hit that year that i gotta do it the 29th
00:04:53
echo_blades
Dude, are you a citizen yet? That's what I want to know.
00:04:57
echo_blades
29th, we'll see tears of joy for being welcomed into this great nation.
00:05:02
Denis Tyrell
yes my oath ceremony is on the 29th uh in santa clara yeah
00:05:08
echo_blades
That's really good. That's really good. I wore my Canadian vest for you today.
00:05:15
Denis Tyrell
How could you... but You should put that thing in storage, man. It's too hot.
00:05:19
echo_blades
it was yeah i again When I came out of the office today at 5 or whenever it was, it was like 80 degrees.
00:05:28
echo_blades
it was It was a little warm.
00:05:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it must... In Bramwood, it must be warm.
00:05:33
echo_blades
Yeah, I don't know. I don't yeah don't get here. It's 70 degrees right now. so
00:05:38
echo_blades
But yeah, awesome.
00:05:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. What else did I do? Oh, I went to Kelly's shop, uh, last week or this week.
00:05:45
echo_blades
Oh yeah, how was that?
00:05:46
Denis Tyrell
That was fun. Yeah. Tuesday.
Knife-Making Techniques Exchange
00:05:49
Denis Tyrell
um actually got a call from Rick last Monday saying, Hey, the timeline changed and he's going to Kelly's would have been tomorrow. Like tomorrow, he said, and which was Tuesday.
00:06:02
Denis Tyrell
And, uh, so I said, Oh, well, why don't you give me a call? I pulled the, uh, Tagalong card, and because I know you're going to say it.
00:06:16
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, I went hung out with them for the day. That was really fun. We just kind of traded skills back and forth. It was like, um there was a few things...
00:06:29
Denis Tyrell
Kelly took her, tried to take her master last August and she had a couple issues. Uh, so she wanted to learn a few ah practice a few things and get some more, you know, points of view or different techniques on like plunges, not plunges, sorry, clips, like grinding clips.
00:06:50
Denis Tyrell
And, uh, what was the other, I forget the other thing, but, um, So yeah, um Rick went talked about the way he grinds clips. I talked about how I grind clips.
00:07:03
Denis Tyrell
And we just set up some tooling with her. um And then Rick showed us how he grinds plunges on daggers by using like the small wheel to set the plunge first.
00:07:18
Denis Tyrell
Which was kind of cool. And I think I'm going to try that on the dagger I'm working on.
00:07:24
Denis Tyrell
You guys will see that in a video at some point. And then um Kelly showed us making a penny guard.
00:07:35
Denis Tyrell
you know what a penny guard is?
00:07:38
Denis Tyrell
So this is, you've seen them. This is like a guard that's got like a round disc. It's like an S guard and it's got a round disc at either end. And they're kind of curved.
00:07:49
Denis Tyrell
oh I'll show you a picture one. But um basically,
00:07:54
echo_blades
Oh yeah. Yeah. i just
Jared's Weekend Adventures
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echo_blades
looked it up. Yeah.
00:07:57
Denis Tyrell
So basically Kelly forged one of those for us, like in front of us. And she's like, you know, such a wizard with a hammer. or She made it look so easy.
00:08:07
Denis Tyrell
And then we, she hot fit it on a knife, which was really cool.
00:08:12
echo_blades
Okay. Awesome.
00:08:15
Denis Tyrell
I've never, I, it was cool to watch. I don't know that it's ever something that like it, that I'll do. ah Yeah, it's fast. um I don't know.
00:08:28
echo_blades
I feel like it's not not enough precision for you.
00:08:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I mean, if you were doing a more rustic knife, it's perfect. But, you know, that's not my style. so
00:08:41
Denis Tyrell
um But, yeah, it was a lot of kind of shooting the shit and, you know, building some stuff and talking and, you know, just talking back and forth about... um different techniques and MasterSmith stuff and you know what she's when she's going to try Master again and and all kinds of stuff. So yeah, it was a good time. I left there. like It was after five when I left, so it was good.
00:09:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I'd like to maybe have a little collab with Kelly at some point and do something together. That'd be fun.
00:09:15
Denis Tyrell
But yeah, that was the start of my week. What did you do? Did you do anything but work this week? Did you get in the shop?
00:09:23
echo_blades
um I did. Oh, I worked on the the press.
00:09:29
echo_blades
Yeah. On Sunday, I went out to Jeff's shop and. I golfed on Saturday. um i was good. And then I had a bunch of... I don't know what the hell happened Saturday.
00:09:43
echo_blades
I lost my glasses, so not much.
00:09:47
Denis Tyrell
Everything was a blur.
00:09:48
echo_blades
ah Oh, that's what it was. I came home from golf and... um
00:09:56
echo_blades
Yeah. I don't know how much I want to get into this, but... the Anyways, I came home from golf and then ah walked in and i was... I'm old Dennis. Okay.
00:10:07
Denis Tyrell
Hey, if you're old, what am ancient?
00:10:09
echo_blades
I'm old. I'm old. Right. So ah again and I I'm the, on the drive back.
00:10:18
echo_blades
It's like, i don't know, 40 minutes or something like that. And by the time I get, I was in Hercules.
00:10:20
Denis Tyrell
Where were you golfing?
00:10:24
echo_blades
So, so everywhere around, I'm, I'm the, the courses like right by me here in Brentwood or like not my jam right now. So I'm, I'm always driving about an hour or so.
00:10:34
echo_blades
So, but anyways, i get it I get finished with the round, have lunch, watch the beginning of the Masters Sunday, and then I drive home. By the time I get to the house, or this is Saturday, i I get out of my car and I'm just like, hu everything just like stiffens up.
Press Project Challenges
00:10:54
echo_blades
My back hurts.
00:10:55
echo_blades
I'm like, oh my God. like and I'm a pretty dramatic kind of person, as you can tell from last week when I was trying to show everybody my burn on my ear that nobody gave a shit about, but Uh, so I'm like, Oh, my back, you know, and I, I walk in the house and just want to get a shower and kind of chill out for a second.
00:11:13
echo_blades
And Lynn has, and my daughter have my bed covered with like, um, like an Amazon, you know, like a movable, uh, uh, clothes hanger thing, you know, it was a bunch of tubes and it's just, there's, it's like a, a put together furniture marathon going on with shit all over my bed.
00:11:35
echo_blades
And I'm like, oh, this is the, like, all I want to do is just go lay down, right? And there's fucking tubes and instructions all over the place. So I ended up doing that and then not much else because there was a couple of them.
00:11:53
echo_blades
It was lame. I hate that stuff. Putting shit together like that is, yeah, to say that.
00:11:56
Denis Tyrell
Like Ikea? any Any trip to Ikea is like...
00:12:01
echo_blades
Yeah, it's just not it's not fun for me. like I get frustrated and, you know, there was always a cuss word or five that goes on. But um yeah, and then Sunday ah got up in ah early and then went over to Jeff's shop and we worked on um the press.
00:12:20
echo_blades
So ah drill I drilled like a billion half-inch holes in thick-ass steel.
00:12:21
Denis Tyrell
what did you get done on the press?
00:12:29
echo_blades
I mean, it sounds... like not that big of a deal, but like after, you know, I guess it wasn't, it it just takes a while.
00:12:36
Denis Tyrell
Takes long time.
00:12:38
echo_blades
Like I'm, I literally have on on this big ass. I think it's a Cincinnati. It's got a bridge for Cincinnati. So in the Cincinnati is basically just for for drilling holes. um It's kind of his setup. and then he's got the bridge port for actual milling, but I'm sitting on this thing.
00:12:54
echo_blades
All my but big fat ass weight, just hanging on the, ah on the, what's that thing called? The handle.
00:13:02
echo_blades
the quill yeah and i'm like bro this is lame like
00:13:06
Denis Tyrell
Did you start it with a smaller hole are you really drilling half inch holes?
00:13:10
echo_blades
no we're just going we're just going right through it yeah sharpened drills and the drill was freaking uh dull so we had we sharpened the drill but once we got it going it started cooking but
00:13:23
echo_blades
Um, yeah, so we were drilling the plates that are going to go into the, um, the tube, the upright, um, members, and then, uh, just getting set up for, the thing. And then he's like, all right, did you bring the the cylinder?
00:13:40
echo_blades
And I'm like, you know, I wish I had the cricket sound. Cause I'm like, uh, this, the cylinder.
00:13:47
Denis Tyrell
The one you haven't ordered?
00:13:52
echo_blades
And then I'm like, Oh,
00:13:55
echo_blades
ah Yeah. So I was like, ah yeah, about that.
00:14:02
echo_blades
i never ordered the cylinder. um And he's like, dude, like yeah you were here like three weeks ago or whatever. And you were going to order the cylinder like that. And i'm like, yeah, well, I got.
00:14:14
echo_blades
It's fucked up, dude. I feel like an asshole. So i I ordered it right there. Dude, 600 bucks.
00:14:25
Denis Tyrell
And it's ah it's a 30 ton or a 29 and a half or whatever.
00:14:27
echo_blades
the yeah, something like that. It five inch bore, a five inch cylinder, 14 inch stroke or some shit like that.
00:14:35
echo_blades
But it was like 600 bucks, little under 600 bucks. But, uh, I use the link that you had sent me. I don't know where the fucking, where it's coming from or whatnot, but it was free shipping for, for ground.
00:14:48
Denis Tyrell
Oh, that's good. Those things are heavy.
00:14:51
echo_blades
So it may not get here for another year, but, um,
00:14:54
Denis Tyrell
Well, it's probably going to be UPS. grant It's not USPS. It's going to be.
00:14:58
echo_blades
Oh, fucking something's got to give, right? it was free. And the next, the next tier for shipping was 300 bucks.
00:15:02
Denis Tyrell
that's good.
00:15:07
echo_blades
And for, for a brand, like for the deal of the century, could have had it here today for for
00:15:21
Denis Tyrell
I bet you that thing weighs like 40 pounds.
00:15:25
echo_blades
I yeah can imagine.
00:15:27
Denis Tyrell
So free shipping is very surprising.
00:15:30
Denis Tyrell
I remember paying the shipping on that thing and it was, it was, I think back when I ordered mine, it was probably 350 bucks though, not 600 like it is now.
00:15:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. six hundred like it is now
00:15:40
echo_blades
Yeah. I guess it didn't, the price didn't change though from, a couple months back or a month ago or whatever. I thought maybe terror for, but anyways, so I got to fucking cylinder order and I was like, my bad Jeff.
00:15:53
echo_blades
I'm fucking spaced on that. So, um, we had to kind of audible a little bit, but then we got the big ass, the, the two we had, uh, I mean the, the, the piece that he had was like 20 some feet long. So we were like fucking crane it up and like it it was cool. It was an interesting process to, to do cut it up. The bandsaw that he has is like,
00:16:15
echo_blades
you know, five times ours.
00:16:16
Denis Tyrell
It's a monster, I'm sure.
00:16:20
echo_blades
ah Like it's, it's the fucking coolest thing ever handles, whatever you put in there, like fucking like it's butter.
00:16:26
Denis Tyrell
What is like a two-inch blade on it?
00:16:32
echo_blades
i don't know what would two inch what?
00:16:35
Denis Tyrell
Wide bandsaw blade.
00:16:37
echo_blades
No, it's the same size. It's like fucking 17 feet though.
00:16:43
echo_blades
It's this long. It's a huge, uh, I, I, yeah, anyways.
00:16:47
echo_blades
Um, but it was pretty cool. So we did that, uh, cut that up. Um, and now we have the, the cross, the I beams cut, the uprights cut.
00:16:58
echo_blades
We started drilling the plates and then we'll do the cars for, um, the setup that we're doing for, um, for the stroke on the, for the cylinder in the head and all that crap.
00:17:09
echo_blades
And, uh, yeah, we'll be, uh, rocking and rolling here pretty soon.
00:17:15
Denis Tyrell
Oh, that's good.
00:17:15
echo_blades
So, yeah, i was stoked, man. It was a good time. we only get like, and that's probably why we stopped. I stopped doing this stuff. Cause you know, the best we could do is like four hours on a, on a weekend, just cause with the things we got going on.
00:17:31
echo_blades
And then I went to, uh, I went to work after that for three hours. And ah and then I went and stopped by your house because to grab the laser that I forgot last weekend.
Teaching Damascus Knife-Making
00:17:45
echo_blades
And then I missed the dude that was over at your but your place. He was like pulling out. little I pulled up behind the car and I was watching the Masters, which, by the way, was the fantastic, the most entertaining, the most just absolutely fantastic.
00:18:01
echo_blades
just incredible tournament that I've seen in a long time.
00:18:09
echo_blades
That was pretty funny. That was pretty funny, but, uh, it was so good, dude.
00:18:12
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, I'm not doing it.
00:18:17
echo_blades
It was so good. Um, but yeah, I pulled up and then he, and then all sudden i saw the fricking, like the brake lights, the reverse lights come on but the car in front of me. I'm like, Oh, god I guess this dude's leaving.
00:18:28
echo_blades
So had to get out of his way, but, um,
00:18:31
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, we had three. so um yeah, I had a student for four day Damascus class, Willie, he was from Arizona. and one of my Patreon members.
00:18:43
Denis Tyrell
And um I guess he booked this, it was over a month ago, almost two months ago. But um yeah, he came and he wanted to do mosaic and um Copper Damascus.
00:18:57
Denis Tyrell
So we started with a mosaic, like an explosion-based mosaic. And um yeah, did that on day one.
00:19:08
Denis Tyrell
ah Morning of day two, was it? Yeah. ah Yeah, morning of day two, we were getting ready to cut it.
00:19:22
Denis Tyrell
And um then the bearing on my saw went.
00:19:28
echo_blades
Oh, that's right.
00:19:29
Denis Tyrell
Um, it was making a funny noise and i like one of the coverings of the bearing was off. So I took the bearing off. I'm like, Oh, I'll just like put a little sleeve over it and give it a little tap and knock that plate back against the bearing.
00:19:44
Denis Tyrell
As soon as i just gave it like the tiniest little tap, the actual case on the bearing cracked. So the bearing was obviously toast and that's what I was hearing. so um, yeah, yeah.
00:19:57
Denis Tyrell
but Thought I ordered some bearings that were going to come the next day, but, you know, the old put it in your cart in Amazon and forget to check out.
00:20:07
echo_blades
Dude, I'm so guilty of that all. I did that with a cylinder. Could you imagine that?
00:20:11
Denis Tyrell
oh Oh, yeah. um So, yeah, realized um Saturday that we weren't going to get the bearing in time, so I...
00:20:23
Denis Tyrell
called up my buddy, Jared, and went to his place and sliced up the billet Saturday night. But in the meantime, so he came Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
00:20:35
Denis Tyrell
um Friday, Saturday, we did the Copper Damascus instead, which um turned out really well.
00:20:44
Denis Tyrell
and we we We went a little overboard on the cladding. And we did a nice pattern and then twisted it on the cladding, and which I showed you. And it looks awesome.
00:20:53
echo_blades
Yeah. It looked cool. Yeah, it really did.
00:20:57
Denis Tyrell
And the billet was much longer than we imagined, or at least that we had planned, because um the billet that I showed you, I brought over, was 13 inches long.
00:21:12
Denis Tyrell
We got another one that was 18 inches long.
00:21:12
echo_blades
Yeah, I was going to say that was a smaller one, huh?
00:21:16
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that was the small one. So I kept six inches. Um, cause I'm going to make a, don't even say it.
00:21:21
echo_blades
yeah you Yeah, you did. Mr. Tyrell. mr tara
00:21:29
Denis Tyrell
I kept six inches of the billet, for a folder, maybe two folders. I could probably get two out of it. It's like an inch, just over an inch and a half wide. But, um, so you may see that a blade show, um,
00:21:45
Denis Tyrell
and bolsters and stuff like that anyway so uh yeah it was a great time and then we finished the the tiling on the mosaic on sunday and we were done early we went for lunch and then um yeah i actually showed him a few extra things like we went through grinding basics uh and then i showed him how to do the slot on guard on the mill
00:22:11
Denis Tyrell
which which he enjoyed and got a lot out of. of So um yeah, it was great, great class.
00:22:17
Denis Tyrell
and he He was a great student. He has all the stuff at home. He's got he's attempted ah mosaic at home based on the same pattern that he knew he was going to do here and made a few mistakes at home. So it was good that he was somewhat familiar but came with questions about, you know,
00:22:38
Denis Tyrell
He showed me pictures and like, what did I do wrong? I'm like, okay, you didn't four-way this part. or Or you, you know, knocked in the corners and then accidentally squared it back to square.
00:22:49
Denis Tyrell
Like instead of, not yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:22:49
echo_blades
Ooh, yeah. We know that trick.
00:22:54
Denis Tyrell
um And then when he did the, none of his patterns really lined up well because he forgot to do, he didn't get the concept of doing the the fairy flip.
00:23:07
Denis Tyrell
You know, you accord you accordion the billets, you accordion the pieces so so that the pattern lines up.
00:23:10
echo_blades
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
00:23:14
Denis Tyrell
He just stacked them on top of each other so they didn't line up perfectly when he did it. But when we did it, he so he got a lot out of the course, which was great.
Dislike for Sharpening Knives
00:23:24
echo_blades
that's cool. I can't tell you, man, that I don't I would never do anything like this, but I felt completely used with you just coming over and using my shit and then leaving.
00:23:35
echo_blades
I mean, I don't know what kind of person does shit like that, but it takes a special person to just come over to someone's house, use their tools, leave a pile of fucking metal dust and just bounce off into the night, dude.
00:23:50
Denis Tyrell
yeah but i appreciate it thank you i was just going to come over and steal your bearing and take it but
00:23:50
echo_blades
then Unbelievable.
00:23:55
echo_blades
Oh, man. I laughed.
00:23:59
echo_blades
I told you you could. I was golfing, and I was sitting there, and I was like, eh, maybe I could.
00:24:04
echo_blades
I'm like, fuck that. I'm going to drive an hour to my house, and then half hour to you.
00:24:07
Denis Tyrell
oh no no i was like if you were if you were going somewhere sunday morning i would have said yes stop by and bring me the bearing but otherwise no it didn't
00:24:14
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah, I was like, just come over and get what the fuck you need. Yeah. and be cool and you're like nah
00:24:20
Denis Tyrell
I was being lazy at that point and I was trying, oh, maybe I'll just do with the port-a-band. That, like like, I texted you, the port-a-band option sucks donkey balls.
00:24:30
echo_blades
yeah he did in the evening too and you're like I was like oh yeah he's in a pinch yeah
00:24:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Well, I tried it once and I'm like, this is bullshit. I am not cutting a billet like that because it's on an angle, right? On like a 45 and I was like holding the billet up in the air and trying to, it was bullshit.
Upgrading Tools and Equipment
00:24:49
Denis Tyrell
So, but yeah, it was much easier with a horizontal saw.
00:24:50
echo_blades
going. I could imagine.
00:24:53
Denis Tyrell
But I tell you, I was that close from, if if we wouldn't have if we wouldn't have found the bearing as quickly as we did, like on Amazon, like buy this bearing, it was like nine bucks for 10.
00:25:06
Denis Tyrell
ah I almost pressed the button on buying a brand new Jet horizontal bandsaw. I was close. was close to pulling the trigger on that.
00:25:14
echo_blades
What is that going to run?
00:25:17
Denis Tyrell
But I saved myself.
00:25:19
echo_blades
What does that run?
00:25:20
Denis Tyrell
Like $2,200. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:25
echo_blades
I was going to say, I know you're you're getting you are getting old and way more bougie because the tools you're buying are you're starting to like step up.
00:25:36
echo_blades
you know like From a guy who made his YouTube channel of like, now you can buy a all this shit for dirt cheap and you don't need all this fancy stuff. Now all of sudden you got the stand-up surface grinder.
00:25:47
echo_blades
You get the Holland Anvis. but You know, he's like, I'm just going to get the jet, you know, like shit's the you're you're starting to see the fucking buy once, cry once rule here.
00:25:58
Denis Tyrell
ah yeah i'm just outgrowing the basic tools at this point now that i'm doing this full time i want the i want the i want the big tools not like jeff size tools but you know
00:26:05
echo_blades
yeah I get it. Yeah, that makes sense.
00:26:11
echo_blades
Yeah, no, nobody has that. That's fucking ridiculous stuff, dude.
00:26:15
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I did have one fun little interaction. So I was at Safeway just buying like breakfast shit for when Wheelie was there for the class. um
00:26:26
echo_blades
It's a great name, Willie. I like this.
00:26:27
Denis Tyrell
yeah um So this is the day before and I'm like in the middle of the afternoon, whatever it was, and I go to go to Safeway and pull up.
00:26:39
Denis Tyrell
And as soon as, no, I'm getting back in the Jeep from buying what I needed. And this, this guy walks by and he looks at the Jeep, which says Tyrell knife works on the side. Right.
00:26:50
Denis Tyrell
And he goes, Oh, do you sharpen knives? I'm like, no, not really. I'm a custom knife maker. And, uh, and he looks at me with an odd look and I just pointed the tattoo on my arm and I'm like stuff like this and, uh, proceeded to strike up conversation with this guy, Lyle, who Basically, we we ended up chatting for like half an hour standing there in front of the Jeep, and he's a Marine, and we talked about, you know, he used to have a Marine-issued K-Bar, and hey it was a really cool conversation.
00:27:20
Denis Tyrell
It's like, yeah I felt like the, um what are those commercials about, like, don't be your parents? though Like, the you know, those commercials about, ah what is it? It's like the old guy, and he's, ah,
00:27:39
Denis Tyrell
um you've seen those commercials. It's like, don't be your parents. And it's like, ah he's like a counselor and he talk talks to people about like, don't grow up and be your parents. And like, you know, you're always talking to somebody or you're like the guy at the grocery store or the gas station.
00:27:51
echo_blades
Yeah, yeah. yeah I'm definitely that guy.
00:27:54
Denis Tyrell
yeah Yeah. I know you you personify that guy, but I felt like that guy, like, okay, we're two old guys, two old retired guys talking at Safeway about dumb shit for half a while.
00:28:05
echo_blades
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:07
Denis Tyrell
But it was cool.
00:28:10
echo_blades
Did you tell him were about to be an American?
00:28:14
echo_blades
You should have.
00:28:14
Denis Tyrell
I don't think I got that far.
00:28:16
echo_blades
Ah, it's the first thing you tell Marines. Well, I'm not really an American, but I'm on my way, sir.
00:28:22
Denis Tyrell
No, we didn't get that far.
00:28:24
echo_blades
i was just, uh, um, uh, the, the knife sharpening thing, at my grandmother's service the other day, I was talking to some family members and, you know, people that I only see through Facebook.
00:28:36
echo_blades
or communicate with Facebook or they kind of see what I'm doing and stuff like that. And they're like, Oh my God, you see you're doing this and doing that. I'm like, yeah And they're like, Oh, you sharpen knives. And I'm like, I just just, let me just keep it real here real quick.
00:28:46
echo_blades
Like sharpening is the absolute worst part of what I do as far as knife making is concerned.
00:28:56
echo_blades
I hate it That's why I haven't even sharpened yours. That's all we got to do. ah i hate it. i would I know there's lots of guys that, that you know, ah like I remember we were at Maker's Camp and some dude walked up right, and Marekko was doing a class, and some dude walked up and like handed his knives to Marekko and, you know, like, sharpened these.
00:29:20
echo_blades
and then i And I was like, what fuck's wrong with this guy? you know like But apparently Marekko had talked to him, but I know he does stuff like that, so there's some people that don't mind it, but that is not my jam.
00:29:31
echo_blades
I am i'm not into it.
00:29:32
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, I procrastinate so much. a lot of times I won't sharpen a knife until like it's sold off the website.
00:29:39
Denis Tyrell
And the last sand shark I sold, i almost shipped it without sharpening it.
00:29:46
Denis Tyrell
um i caught my and I had the box taped up and then realized, oh fuck. And I had to like cut the tape on the box, open it up, go let's go to the shop and and sharpen it.
00:29:57
Denis Tyrell
ah I was listening to Fire and Steel today, and Toby had a good one. He's like, yeah, sharpening, he says something about like, oh you know, what do you charge to sharpen a knife? And he's like, eight quid, whatever that is in real dollars.
00:30:14
echo_blades
quid get the fuck out of here
00:30:18
Denis Tyrell
And I'm like, yeah, it's totally not worth it. I mean, I would do it if like a neighbor asked me that I'm, you know, okay, I'll do it for you as a favor and not charge them. But I mean, ah'll and I'll do it for my friends, but I don't like it.
00:30:34
echo_blades
hmm yeah not not not anything i like to do either oh while i was at um
00:30:35
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah. No fun.
00:30:42
echo_blades
ah Jeff's we're um one of the coolest parts about doing that stuff is just hanging out with my buddy. Right. And we're always just bullshit. And we, and every single time we're going to talk about the old days and then, and a lot of like movies or, or shit that's going on.
00:30:59
echo_blades
So I owe you an amends.
00:31:04
Denis Tyrell
Okay, I love this.
00:31:05
echo_blades
Okay. So we're talking about it, talking about something I, Pedro Pascal comes up. And I'm like, man, fuck that guy.
00:31:15
echo_blades
I was like, Dennis has got a fucking boner over this dude. And blah, blah, blah. He's like, he's my favorite. And I'm like, buddy. I mean, who's ever even seen this guy? He's famous for, you know, being in a show where he wear a mask the whole time, you know, blah, blah, blah.
00:31:28
Denis Tyrell
he was sitting He was in a game of Thrones.
00:31:31
echo_blades
No. And gladiator.
00:31:33
Denis Tyrell
Oh, and Gladiator 2.
00:31:34
echo_blades
Gladiator too.
00:31:36
echo_blades
So this is when this came up between you and I.
00:31:40
Denis Tyrell
And The Last of Us.
00:31:40
echo_blades
He was in that. he he He was in that.
00:31:44
echo_blades
And i had the dudes mixed up. I thought he was the younger dude who was Lucius.
00:31:53
echo_blades
And the whole time, like, I completely, like, whoop, right over my head. And he's like, and I'm like, yeah, he he was the dude. and And then anyways, he ends up looking it up and, like, showing me. And he's like, no, this is him. I'm like, oh, no, that dude's fucking cool.
00:32:06
echo_blades
I like that dude. yeah I got a boner for him, too.
00:32:11
echo_blades
I'm like, shit, man, dude. Now I got to tell Dennis my bad. Cause yeah, the last of us is back on the, just, I haven't seen the first, first episode back is now on, but yeah.
00:32:17
Denis Tyrell
Right. Oh, I saw it last night.
00:32:21
echo_blades
Oh, he's awesome.
00:32:23
Denis Tyrell
He was in Game of Thrones.
00:32:24
Denis Tyrell
He was in the sequel to Kingsman.
00:32:28
echo_blades
yeah, he's in all kinds of good shit.
00:32:30
echo_blades
He's awesome.
00:32:31
Denis Tyrell
he's the Mandalorian.
00:32:33
echo_blades
Yeah. So I stand corrected. My bad.
00:32:35
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, damn right.
00:32:36
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. Six to midnight over here to love them.
00:32:40
Denis Tyrell
I saw the the first episode of season two of, I won't ruin it for you, of Last of Us, but
00:32:50
Denis Tyrell
it's five it's five years in the future. You knew that, right?
00:32:53
echo_blades
No, I don't know anything, so shut up. I don't want to know. this is that i really enjoyed that that show. That was really good.
00:32:59
Denis Tyrell
they They tell you nothing in the first episode.
00:33:02
Denis Tyrell
They're just setting things up. there's there There can be no spoilers in the first episode because nothing really happens.
00:33:09
Denis Tyrell
They're just setting it up.
00:33:10
echo_blades
Okay. You're not going to tell me that they get rescued by a gay dude?
00:33:15
Denis Tyrell
but No vests are involved.
00:33:22
Denis Tyrell
No, honestly, like nothing really happens. They do introduce a couple new characters that you don't know who they are. But um I really needed to watch the last two episodes of season one because there's a few parts I'm like, okay, I should know what that is, but I don't remember what happened.
00:33:41
Denis Tyrell
But, um yeah, I mean, it wasn't a great episode, but you can tell that they're just setting shit up.
00:33:50
Denis Tyrell
Did you watch, fuck, I always forget the name of that show. The one with um Walter Goggins or whatever. What was that?
00:34:00
echo_blades
Dude, he's awesome too.
00:34:01
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, the he plays the ghoul in um another video game. um
00:34:09
echo_blades
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. um Not Highlander.
00:34:15
echo_blades
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Wasteland.
00:34:21
Denis Tyrell
That's not it. Fallout.
00:34:23
echo_blades
Fallout, yeah. God dang it.
00:34:24
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. That was... I actually like that better than The Last of Us.
00:34:31
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I thought it was awesome.
00:34:33
echo_blades
I started it.
00:34:34
echo_blades
I think I fell off and just forgot about it, but I saw about three or four episodes.
00:34:38
Denis Tyrell
I thought the story was better.
00:34:40
Denis Tyrell
The characters are really good in Last of Us, though. I really like Ellie's character.
00:34:44
Denis Tyrell
Not to get off on all this, ah you know,
00:34:47
echo_blades
ah yeah You're getting off on Pedro Pascal, baby. Do it.
00:34:50
Denis Tyrell
ah Hey, so are you. You just didn't know it.
00:34:53
echo_blades
Yeah. Same. Yeah. My bad. I stand corrected.
00:34:57
Denis Tyrell
yeah You know what else I get off on?
00:35:01
Denis Tyrell
Holding a two-bastered hammer. That's what I get off on.
00:35:04
echo_blades
Yeah, fat beans. They're mean.
00:35:08
Denis Tyrell
How about that for a transition?
00:35:09
echo_blades
they make They make me gleam.
00:35:14
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah. I didn't really get a chance to use the two bastards, but actually, well, I think we straightened out a couple of pieces of steel this weekend, but it's my go-to.
00:35:27
Denis Tyrell
You need a hammer ah for forging or just for smacking around your friends. Go get yourself a fat peen from Frank and Anita over at Two Bastards Texas Smithian Supplies.
00:35:39
Denis Tyrell
They got the cross peen, the straight peen, the curved peen, the dual peen.
00:35:45
echo_blades
I see your penis as big as mine. tough Don't get your peens cross-mojinated. That's a bad day.
00:35:55
Denis Tyrell
ah yeah but you need a hammer go talk to Frank he's your man yeah I am looking forward to seeing him in in June at blade show I'm assuming they're going
00:36:00
echo_blades
That's right. He's the man, because ain't it grand to have a fat peen in your hand.
00:36:12
echo_blades
Oh yeah. Do is the, uh, I think we have the, the lost bastards. I hope that hasn't happened yet. His hammer in it's in May.
00:36:23
Denis Tyrell
no it's in two weeks right Oh, I was thinking the end of April.
00:36:28
echo_blades
Yeah. May 3rd. Yep. So if you're going to be in the Gainesville area around May 3rd, Go check out the Lost Bastards Hammer In. ah Special guests, Mike Dunn, Sarah Hubbard and Terry Dunn, Eric Rivers, Neil Warren, um doing a bunch of demos, a bunch of sponsors, $10 per ticket. I think there's only 50 spots. So um hopefully there's some left. But yeah, go check that out if you are in the area on May 3rd and go
00:37:02
echo_blades
hang out with the the main bean himself, ah franken Frank and the crew.
00:37:06
Denis Tyrell
It's main We should get some two bastards. Or Frank, you should get some some shirts made that say, amy Grand, to have a fat peen in your hand.
00:37:20
echo_blades
is He said they're coming.
00:37:23
echo_blades
Yeah, he said it.
00:37:24
echo_blades
Yeah, I don't want to do too much spoiler, but that's right.
00:37:27
Denis Tyrell
Nice. Oh, that reminds
Merchandise Plans for Blade Show
00:37:29
Denis Tyrell
me. I got to get our triple T shirts done for Blade.
00:37:33
echo_blades
Yeah, I got to get stickers and stuff too.
00:37:33
Denis Tyrell
I got to get those ordered.
00:37:36
Denis Tyrell
I'm on the shirts. You're on the stickers.
00:37:38
echo_blades
All right. That's good. Done.
00:37:41
Denis Tyrell
All right. Get on it.
00:37:42
echo_blades
Just stay on though because you it might be Mike.
00:37:44
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, don't leave it in your in your cart there, buddy.
00:37:48
echo_blades
ah My bad. Yeah, but hey, man, we got some really exciting stuff coming out ah ah from Koi and the boys over at Baker Forge and Tool. This week, they got their drop was Copper My Surge ah featuring copper Damascus cladding over a tough ADCR V2 core fan favorite.
00:38:08
echo_blades
Layout shines with its unique wavy surge pattern running the length of the bar. That's right.
00:38:14
Denis Tyrell
That's someone one that goes this way, right?
00:38:16
echo_blades
Yeah, it looks it's it's dope.
00:38:18
echo_blades
It's absolutely dope.
00:38:18
Denis Tyrell
I like that one.
00:38:19
echo_blades
So um make sure if you are ah checking out, I think those drops come out on Friday night for all those special people that take advantage of the app, the bigger fortune tool app. You get early one day earlier access to the drops.
00:38:33
echo_blades
Um, and you can, uh, load up the cart with, uh, all this stuff. And before we get there though, we got some really big, really big news here. Uh, Gator Piss heavy and max pre-orders launch April 18th.
00:38:49
echo_blades
And if I'm counting days, uh, that's four days away from today, three days from tomorrow when you guys are listening to it. And that's going to be Friday. Is that the eighteenth
00:39:00
Denis Tyrell
i believe so yeah wait yeah yes yes friday
00:39:05
echo_blades
Yep, so pre-orders start ah um on the 18th. ah They're priced identical to the OG Gator Piss, but there will be a discount for the preor pre-order only.
00:39:18
echo_blades
So make sure you go take advantage of that. um
00:39:21
Denis Tyrell
yeah and if you're wondering what the difference is between the three gators besides the one nipple, two nipple, and the three nipple version.
00:39:29
echo_blades
Three nipple, yeah, yeahp yep, yep, yep.
00:39:30
Denis Tyrell
Right, right. The original Gator Piss is going to be for your copper, for your, you know, for just general etching. The Gator Piss Heavy is going to be for those steels that don't have 15 and 20 that you want a really heavy etch. Great. It would be great if you want to do a dark, say, AEBL, and you want to do a stonewash on that.
00:39:52
Denis Tyrell
The Heavy is perfect for that.
00:39:54
echo_blades
Yeah, if you're trying to get that blackout effect.
00:39:55
Denis Tyrell
Or you just... Yes, you want the black, black, black. And it's fast because it's strong, strong stuff. So that's what the Heavy specialized for.
00:40:05
Denis Tyrell
And then, of course, the Gator Piss Max is for your stainless Damascus. I will be using some of that, I think, if I can... I haven't decided exactly what folders I'm going to do for um for Blade Show. One of them might be the stainless Damascus that I did with Koi when he, well, we did with Koi when he was here.
00:40:26
Denis Tyrell
And I'll for sure be using the Gator Piss Max on that.
00:40:30
echo_blades
Absolutely. The, the heavy also is, uh, perfect for etching like Mokame and, um, and other steels that are, are materials that are hard to etch traditionally, but not with the, not with the heavy, just get it done.
00:40:45
echo_blades
It works perfect for that stuff.
00:40:48
echo_blades
ye And then you always got the OG Gator Piss for all those really shiny, shiny, shiny nickel and dark, dark blacks on that. So, um yeah, good stuff coming out of Baker Forge Tool, expanding their Gator or Piss line.
00:41:02
echo_blades
um I believe the the guys, JB and Help Me, Help Me. ah What's the other guy's name? Completely...
00:41:14
echo_blades
ah Luna Grayson. Yeah. Thank you. ah Doing some demos at a blade show um coming up here in June. So if you're around, make sure you go check that out and you get a special demos on how they go through their process with the OG and the, and the new heavy and and max. So yeah.
00:41:34
echo_blades
Yeah. April 18th, Friday, go ah take advantage of that early drop. ah Get a bunch of steel in there and pre-order the Gator Piss Heavy and Max. And i don't know if you can, I'm assuming, maybe, possibly.
00:41:48
echo_blades
um But use the discount code TTT10 for 10% off.
00:41:53
Denis Tyrell
Hey, give it a shot.
00:41:53
echo_blades
I don't know if that'll apply for the pre-orders because you're getting a discount already. But The steel and everything else that you have was is definitely applicable.
00:42:03
Denis Tyrell
Hey, give it a try. it Can't hurt to try.
00:42:05
echo_blades
Yep. That's right. So, um yeah. Coin the boys doing big things. Excited.
00:42:12
Denis Tyrell
no Speaking of Blade Show and demos, I will be doing a demo at the Broadbeck booth on grinding clips.
Grinding Clips Demonstration at Blade Show
00:42:23
Denis Tyrell
and just fixtures and use it.
00:42:26
Denis Tyrell
I have no idea. I haven't seen the schedule yet, but
00:42:28
echo_blades
Oh, you better make sure it doesn't conflict with me going to the bathroom or something.
00:42:35
Denis Tyrell
you can work around your your bladder. ah No, I'll be doing it. I think I'm doing that demo a couple of times at the Broadback booth.
00:42:46
Denis Tyrell
So um yeah, come check out, see how I grind clips.
00:42:50
Denis Tyrell
um And there's a couple of different variations, so come check it out at the Broadback booth. I'll have more info as it gets closer.
00:42:58
echo_blades
Nice. Nice, nice, nice.
Social Media Update: Out of Instagram Jail
00:43:02
echo_blades
yeah You know what else?
00:43:04
echo_blades
I am out of Instagram jail.
00:43:07
Denis Tyrell
Get out of here.
00:43:08
echo_blades
Yeah. All green checks, my dude.
00:43:13
Denis Tyrell
I don't believe it.
00:43:13
echo_blades
i put a reel out today, of like a really just kind of basic reel of the... the press stuff I was doing and I just happened to check my account and turns out I'm all green marks.
00:43:33
Denis Tyrell
Is that because you haven't posted a knife in the ages? is that why?
00:43:36
echo_blades
It could be, but you know what, if that's the the way to go, then yeah, look all green.
00:43:51
Denis Tyrell
That'd be a no.
00:43:52
echo_blades
Hmm. I'm not holding my breath here. This has happened before. This has happened before. But I noticed because I had a bunch of non-followers ah on my my deal um on the Vue analytics. So I thought that was interesting to say the least.
00:44:10
echo_blades
Not the least. not to meat
00:44:11
Denis Tyrell
Say the knees?
00:44:12
echo_blades
Yeah, say the least.
00:44:13
Denis Tyrell
The knights that say knee.
00:44:20
echo_blades
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:22
Denis Tyrell
So I've been working on that.
00:44:24
Denis Tyrell
God, I really wanted to finish that Nickel Storm buoy today. But of course I spent, well, the better part of the morning getting the jet skis and getting those in. but Because all I had to do was um etch it and do the coining on the the nickel spacers.
00:44:46
Denis Tyrell
And I got to etching the knife. I put it in Always check a knife after it's been in the acid for 30 seconds. And I pulled it out and I found like six different spots that have decarb on them.
00:45:01
Denis Tyrell
which pissed me off. So I spent the afternoon hand sanding and then etching and then hand sanding and then etching and then hand sanding. um So yeah, I did manage to etch the fittings and the, the, the pommel and the guard, not the guard, the pommel and the spacer.
00:45:13
echo_blades
That's a bummer.
00:45:24
Denis Tyrell
And they look fucking phenomenal. Like so dark. I haven't even coffeed them yet, but they look really, really good.
00:45:34
echo_blades
That's the big blue one, right? Blue handle?
00:45:35
Denis Tyrell
The big... Yes, yes.
00:45:37
Denis Tyrell
No, it's not blue. It's actually gray, but
00:45:41
echo_blades
Oh, yeah, okay.
00:45:43
echo_blades
I feel like there's some blue in it.
00:45:45
Denis Tyrell
hey It looked that way, but um once when the handle's buffed, it's gray.
00:45:50
echo_blades
but It's going to be gray.
00:45:51
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's it's already...
00:45:52
Denis Tyrell
You haven't seen it buffed, but it's gray. It's... great
00:45:55
Denis Tyrell
kind of gray and black, which matches the the knife perfectly.
00:46:00
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, so I'll finish that tomorrow. The video of that will be up this Saturday. So new build video, finally, will be up this Saturday.
00:46:12
Denis Tyrell
um It's a big, that's probably the biggest buoy I've ever done. It's got like a, yeah, it's big.
00:46:18
echo_blades
That thing's a tank.
00:46:20
Denis Tyrell
It's like a,
00:46:20
echo_blades
You're definitely compensating for something. Like, it's it's egregiously large. Yeah.
00:46:26
Denis Tyrell
like a 13 inch blade um it's a big knife big guard exactly
00:46:30
echo_blades
Yeah. It's like a big lifted truck type, you know, with truck nuts hanging off the back of it. It's like, look look at me. I make big buoys.
00:46:42
Denis Tyrell
but i'm actually excited how the test edge look really cool so um excited to get that one
00:46:47
echo_blades
Cool. are you going to finish so What are you going to finish up the handle with?
00:46:52
Denis Tyrell
ah I'm going to be coating it in, of course, Pelican paste. In fact, I've already done it and coated it in Pelican paste.
00:47:01
Denis Tyrell
So what it smells like oranges. It's great.
00:47:04
echo_blades
Gray oranges. i love it.
00:47:06
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. i need to get I want to try some of that oil. So I need to get some of that. And our buddy Travis has a table at Blade this year.
00:47:15
echo_blades
Oh, that's right. Yes.
00:47:16
Denis Tyrell
So I might just wait and get some at Blade Show and try out the oil.
00:47:22
Denis Tyrell
um Because a lot of times i actually want to use something a little thinner than the wax for some certain things.
00:47:29
Denis Tyrell
um Of course, ah I like the wax. I like the way it coats, especially on the blades. After um I coffee it and I hit it with the heat gun, that's when I like using the wax.
00:47:41
Denis Tyrell
But yeah, get yourself some Pelican paste. Use the discount of code triple t ten He's got hard wax, soft wax, the Pelican oil, the soap to get your hands all nice and fresh before you go touch the wife, and the hand salve to, you know, heal up all those cracks and crevices.
00:48:01
echo_blades
Or Pedro. Yeah. Be nice.
00:48:06
Denis Tyrell
When you want to go play with your peen, you need nice soft hands, right?
00:48:07
echo_blades
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
The Love Sack Revelation
00:48:12
echo_blades
You know what? oh that Yeah, that that Pelican oil worked really good on on the the rock solid grip tech that I We'll one day give to you if you're if you're lucky.
00:48:21
echo_blades
Yeah, but that finished out perfect for that stuff. So but if you have here in the in the market for some ah new type of grippy scales, go check out Matt at rock solid scales.
00:48:33
echo_blades
He's got grip tech, but he's got. All kinds of other handle materials, stabilized wood, epoxy resins, you know, all kinds of good stuff there. And go check out Rock Solid Scales.
00:48:46
echo_blades
Load up that cart. You can use the discount code TTT10. That's TTT10 for 10% off that purchase as well. I've seen some really cool stuff um coming out with that, with the grip, with the grip tip.
00:48:57
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I saw one the other. Shit. forget oh i i I wanted to talk about it, and I forgot to write down what it was, what the name of it was, but it looked really cool. It was one of the new Grip Tech um variations, kind of a new, won't call it a pattern.
00:49:11
echo_blades
Yeah. The glow stuff too is, is bitching as well, man.
00:49:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, really cool.
00:49:14
echo_blades
He's got some great stuff. Yeah, absolutely.
00:49:17
Denis Tyrell
Really cool.
00:49:18
echo_blades
Yeah. And then I got to go, I got to put in an order for some steel. Um, my buddy gave me a bunch of his hand-me-down little totes that he used to store his Damascus in. And I finally pulled out this little, uh, um, from my, my last order. And I still have a bunch of, uh, of stock, but it's like really random pieces now. So I'm going to load up on some steel for some Damascus, um, and fill up my little blue totes there. But, uh, Lawrence sent me this great, um,
00:49:54
echo_blades
meme the other day it was uh like a sign and it had like two you know those little triangle signs that are out in front of restaurants and stores you know like come in got their specials on it you know you know i'm talking about the little the little fold fold up yeah yeah yeah it was one ah on the corner and it said tacos this way no tacos that way he goes i know which way you're going
00:50:08
Denis Tyrell
Not particularly. oh oh yeah, the stand-up boards.
00:50:23
echo_blades
ah was like, yeah, man, i'm my taco meter's down, man. I've been on on burrito burrito alley here lately, so. I got to step up that game. But yeah, so if you're in the need for anything knife material wise supplies, go check out Lawrence Lake at Maritime Knife Supply.
00:50:43
echo_blades
ah He's got everything you need. um Take advantage of the awesome service that he provides by cutting up all of your Damascus into whatever size pieces you want. um
00:50:54
Denis Tyrell
I was showing that to Willie because I was showing him like, you know, when we were talking about steel and I walked him over to where all my steel was.
00:51:02
Denis Tyrell
And he's like, man, you must have spent. He literally said, I'm not joking. He said, man, you must have spent days cutting this up. And I'm like, are you kidding me? I get this all cut from Lawrence and Maritime.
00:51:13
Denis Tyrell
And it was like the I should have recorded it because it was like the perfect commercial.
00:51:13
echo_blades
That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:20
echo_blades
That's cool. It is an amazing service. Uh, But yeah, whatever you need, abrasives, handle material, pinstock, folder. you got a whole new folder line ah material supplies, grinders, gator piss, brand new, fresh up today.
00:51:39
echo_blades
They just released, he's now stocking some of flying shark scales as well.
00:51:46
echo_blades
um yeah, so some cool combo skills and segmented stuff that available only at Maritime, so go check those out. I'm sure they're not going to last long, so hurry up and get that done.
00:51:59
echo_blades
But whatever you need, Lawrence Slake, he's got you covered. um I've got a handful of messages from people who have who have visited several lakes that are his namesake.
00:52:12
echo_blades
Apparently, there's not just one in Washington. They're all over the place, so
00:52:16
Denis Tyrell
Oh, Lawrence just goes around, you know.
00:52:21
Denis Tyrell
he's He's like Chuck Norris. He just goes around pissing and creates lakes and they name him after him, so...
00:52:24
echo_blades
it's yeah dude the check norse memes are the best they are the best so yeah man well this week i'm i'm uh i'm looking forward to finally becoming a knife maker again this is this is the one i've uh got a bunch of uh time scheduled, um making that happen.
00:52:48
echo_blades
Um, so starting, uh, Wednesday kind of, I don't know.
00:52:53
Denis Tyrell
What are you working on?
00:52:55
echo_blades
i have so many things that are like almost there.
00:53:00
Denis Tyrell
You should close up the ones that are almost there.
00:53:02
echo_blades
yeah, I, I, I gotta do that. I gotta, um, I gotta, yep.
00:53:05
Denis Tyrell
Like put the handle on that chef knife we were working on.
00:53:08
echo_blades
I got, yeah, I'm so, I have a bunch of fucking hand sanding. like a bunch. Like I stocked up, I jareded myself into this, like, there's no way around it. Like I have days of hand sanding to do. So I'll probably finish one, get that edge going, um, and then kind of cycle through that. But, um, and then I got to start thinking about, you know, some, some new stuff for, uh, for played here. So I don't know.
00:53:37
echo_blades
We'll see how it goes. I'm not going not going stress out. I'm not going fucking do it to myself, but It ain't going to get done unless you get out there and get it done.
00:53:45
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
00:53:46
echo_blades
So um I'm excited though to, to finally get back in there.
00:53:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I think...
00:53:53
echo_blades
You, know you gave me the push when you called me and you were like, I need to come over to, you know, to use the saw. And I'm like, all right, cool. And then you're, and I was like, ah for like that anxiety set in, I'm like, Oh fuck. I have like, my shop is fucking disaster.
00:54:08
echo_blades
Yeah. Like there was, there was like, ah yeah, it was bad. And then you're like, oh I'm going to leave in about an hour. I'm like, oh, cool. So I went out and fuck I cleaned it up and it got, you know, um some, some, uh, amount of, uh, re shuffling shit around to make it look halfway presentable.
00:54:28
echo_blades
But, um, so I appreciate that. That was there was shit everywhere.
00:54:33
Denis Tyrell
You're welcome. but I'll just drop in randomly from time to time, especially when you get your press, then we'll be doing work at your house.
00:54:40
Denis Tyrell
So you better get those steel orders because we're going to need them.
00:54:44
echo_blades
Yeah, that's going to happen.
00:54:48
echo_blades
But who do you got for maker spotlight?
00:54:50
Denis Tyrell
ah Today, and the the reason I saw this one is because it was I wasn't following this guy. um And i started following because our friend Nick Tobin from Pickle Cutters, I guess, collabed on a post where I guess he bought a billet from Nick.
00:55:13
Denis Tyrell
And made a knife. And I looked. And the only reason that it caught my eye. Because I know Nick doesn't do a lot of. i don't know if he's done any. Hidden Tang knives. And I saw this knife. I'm like hey. But I'm pretty sure that's Nick Steel.
00:55:27
Denis Tyrell
So I looked at it. And I guess he purchased a billet from from Pickle. and um But anyway. It's Limburger. L-Y-M. yeah limb l y m Oh, Limburner, sorry. L-Y-M-B-U-R-N-E-R. So Limburner Knives.
00:55:46
Denis Tyrell
And he's got 20, just over 2,200 followers. um The latest post is this Kumai, which is beautiful steel.
00:55:56
echo_blades
Yeah, really.
00:55:56
Denis Tyrell
Pickle did an awesome job on the steel, but the etch on it is beautiful.
00:56:02
Denis Tyrell
It's got a really, really nice um Amboina handle. Copper guard. And it has that effect on the guard. I don't know what it's called. And I've seen it on a couple of this guy's knives. I need to figure out how to do it myself.
00:56:17
Denis Tyrell
um It's some kind of etch or something. But some beautiful knives. Love his handles.
00:56:23
echo_blades
Yeah. Really good stuff.
00:56:25
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Really nice. So I don't know his name.
00:56:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Limburner knives. So go check them out. Some nice stuff.
00:56:40
Denis Tyrell
He must be Canadian because his Maker's Mark has made belief in it.
00:56:48
echo_blades
And he bought bar from Pickle.
00:56:54
echo_blades
And didn't have to.
00:56:59
echo_blades
do that. Okay. Sorry. Um, so I got a really cool message the other day from, uh, uh, my maker spotlight, but I'm in the wrong account. Hold on one second.
00:57:12
echo_blades
Sorry about that.
Listener Appreciation and Feedback
00:57:16
echo_blades
Yeah. it says, uh, I'm normally not a podcast guy, but you guys have just landed your seventh listener for sure. Great work. Thanks for putting in the time.
00:57:26
echo_blades
and I don't know why, man. Like, but every now and again, I'll get these, these messages that are just like, they, they just make, make me feel good. Like it's really cool. Uh, it's, it's always good to hear from everybody, but, um, and I, and I appreciate them. We appreciate all the support and everything, but that one just made me smile. And I had just, uh, you know, a good chuckle to myself. Um, but, uh, I, I was not following him, so I checked him out. So the, this week I, um,
00:57:56
echo_blades
featuring, his name is Jake cook. He's from WJC knife and tool. Um, he's got 663 followers and I started checking out his, uh, page here and and dude is has some awesome work here.
00:58:17
echo_blades
uh, a bunch of, uh,
00:58:23
echo_blades
integrals and he's got this one, with like a, uh, don't know. It looks like box elder green ish handle, but, um, really deep.
00:58:34
Denis Tyrell
is that Is that the one, like, I'm looking at the like the fifth one in his... Yeah, yeah, I was just looking at that one as far as the...
00:58:40
echo_blades
Yeah. It's got that, that, that deep twist etch. Like that thing looks freaking bad-ass.
00:58:49
Denis Tyrell
I was actually looking at the... No, the one I'm looking at is a mono. um
00:58:53
echo_blades
Oh yeah. Yeah. That's good too.
00:58:54
Denis Tyrell
The mono steel one. I love the handle. I love that ridge on the handle right behind the first the righte behind the finger
00:58:58
echo_blades
Yeah. It's good. Scalping. Yeah. I like, I'm just a sucker for, for that deep low layer edge. So, um but yeah, really good stuff for only having 600 followers. I said, well, that's, that's a shame. So we'll give them a, give them a shout out.
00:59:17
echo_blades
What is MD? What is that short for? Is
00:59:22
echo_blades
is that what that is?
00:59:23
Denis Tyrell
and Yeah, Maryland, right?
00:59:24
echo_blades
Central MD. Yeah. So anyways, yeah. Jake Cook, WJC knife and tool. um Go check him out and show him some love and drop him a line and tell him he's was featured in the maker spotlight on the greatest podcast in the whole land.
00:59:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, no, it's... um Yeah, it's good stuff. I love his knives.
00:59:52
echo_blades
Yeah. So following them now. Appreciate the message, though. And then think I got a question here.
01:00:07
Denis Tyrell
Why are you looking for that?
01:00:08
Denis Tyrell
did you Did you watch my Triple T video this week?
01:00:11
echo_blades
You know, and I was fucking trying to like segue myself out of having to answer this question.
01:00:20
echo_blades
Oh, it's a good It's a good joke of mine that I don't watch them.
01:00:21
Denis Tyrell
busted of course you didn't
01:00:25
echo_blades
and and Yeah. I did not watch it this time. and i was And I was fucking interested because I wanted ah i wanted to see it. um Okay. So the the question is from Keith Toensing.
01:00:42
Denis Tyrell
oh yay and it's it's pronounced tenzing by the way yeah
01:00:42
echo_blades
ah Yeah. He says he's got a quick question. I've had many classes. Is it?
01:00:51
Denis Tyrell
Because he told me.
01:00:52
echo_blades
Okay. I see towing zing, but towing zing. Anyways, God, you screwed me up. This is a quick question. I've had many classes and I've heard arguments for grinding in the bevels or forging in the bevels. And I wanted to get your opinion on what you think is better and why.
Forging vs Grinding Knife Bevels Discussion
01:01:14
Denis Tyrell
Grinding in the bevels versus forging in the bevels.
01:01:17
Denis Tyrell
It... my opinion, it totally depends. It depends on a few factors, right? First off, if you're doing any kind of layered construction, Sanmai, GoMai, I think it's a bad idea ah to forge in the bevels because all you're doing is making those layers tighter together.
01:01:40
Denis Tyrell
You're bringing your shim, whatever that is, closer to the edge and and you're increasing the probability that you fuck up the core.
01:01:51
Denis Tyrell
So number one, I would not do it on any of the layered constructions.
01:01:57
Denis Tyrell
um If you're doing something like a mosaic or a feather or something where the pattern, if you're using Damascus and you don't want to distort
01:02:13
Denis Tyrell
Because you're go if you forge the bevel, you're going to be um distorting the steel, right? You're growing the steel on the bottom half of the blade. So yeah i never I never forge the... Sorry, I won't say never.
01:02:29
Denis Tyrell
Very rarely forge the bevels in on any kind of mosaic. Because it just it looks weird. Now the bottom half of the knife, the pattern's distorted. Now, the one I'm working on right now, i actually I still did. I forged the profile on the one I'm working on right now because it has an edge bar.
01:02:48
Denis Tyrell
ah So i had to forge the profile. I would not forge, especially on that one is a great example of don't forge in the bevels when you have an edge bar. But if you just if we're just talking about mono steel knives, um there's certain techniques where it's nice to forge in the bevels, like you're doing a buoy knife.
01:03:09
Denis Tyrell
And one of the the techniques of doing a bowie knife is to, you have a straight edge, like the top the top of the spine is straight. Okay. And it's curved down from the top of the spine down.
01:03:26
Denis Tyrell
You know, it almost looks like um like a sax. And then when you start hammering in the bevels, that's what creates that curve and that swooped um clip.
01:03:40
Denis Tyrell
that's what That's what that's from. That's from forging in the bevels and it causes that the front of the knife to come up.
01:03:47
Denis Tyrell
So there are certain times you want to do that. Most times, most times I'm not forging in bevels just for what I do. But um I mean, you you forged in bevels on a chef knife just recently, right? Because you need it. I think one of the reasons is You wanted it, excuse me, you wanted it thin, but you needed to bring the heel down. You needed to to get some height on that knife.
01:04:12
echo_blades
Yep. Yeah. And I think I've, I've had several people that forge very thin. They always tell me like, you know, you can't, it's really hard to go.
01:04:23
echo_blades
They, their experience is that they're trying to find that perfect balance of, you know, thin, but not thin. bacon edge when you come out of the quench.
01:04:33
echo_blades
Right. But they're always saying like, every time I think I, I need to go thinner than what I think, especially cause you grind the edge back to profile, you know, um, the, the edge of, of the knife and you get some thickness back.
01:04:46
echo_blades
And, but if you're trying to do a brute to forge too, you know, there's, there's, you gotta to go thin.
01:04:52
echo_blades
Otherwise you're going to grind all that off. But my experience anyways is like, I don't, I know there's people that can do it. It's not within my capability, but you know, even if I forge in bevels, um I'm, I'm going to be grinding bevels as well.
01:05:05
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but you you brought up a good point.
01:05:07
Denis Tyrell
If you want to do a brute to forge knife, you pretty much got to forge in the bevels, right?
01:05:09
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise you'll, you'll end up grinding all that back.
01:05:14
Denis Tyrell
you You're going to erase everything you just did on the grinder, so
01:05:15
echo_blades
You're too thick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:18
Denis Tyrell
put you know But I mean, there are other reasons. You need to preserve steel. You don't have enough steel. You need to make a bigger knife. You want to forge in the bevels to make it taller because you started with a narrower piece of metal.
01:05:32
Denis Tyrell
So I don't think it's a cut and dry, you know,
01:05:36
echo_blades
Yeah, I agree. It's not a better, it's just, it's and another way of doing things. And i mean, i don't know if there's many things that are that cut and dry anyways, that this is right. This is wrong. You know, I think it's a preference and applicable to, to the build that you're working on.
01:05:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i mean, even there's, I've done a feather a Damascus knife where I needed to move the center of the feather.
01:06:01
Denis Tyrell
Well, then I just forged the bevels a little bit, and so I moved the feather up up the center of the knife a little bit. And that's pretty common on a feather. So...
01:06:11
echo_blades
Speaking of feather, the billet that ah Micah and I did is is on its way.
01:06:16
Denis Tyrell
Oh, nice. Nice.
01:06:18
echo_blades
Yeah, he texted me late last week and said he was finishing. We had to
01:06:28
echo_blades
We were almost done. um i think he just had to ah draw it out. He split it, loaf it up or whatever you that term is. Split the loaf and draw out a couple pieces.
01:06:39
Denis Tyrell
he didn't He didn't pinch it.
01:06:44
echo_blades
It split it. That was last week, dude. We were pinching loaves last week in silence. Do you know what a love sack is? Seriously?
01:06:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. The furniture love sack, you mean?
01:06:56
echo_blades
The ah furniture?
01:06:57
echo_blades
Yeah. So those are behind me.
01:07:01
echo_blades
That's a, that's a sectional from love sack.
01:07:05
echo_blades
Yeah. So it's like a modular. Yeah.
01:07:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i don' I know what it is.
01:07:09
echo_blades
yeah But I have an actual love sack. like the movie style one. So it's, it's supposedly, it's a big ass beanbag. It's big, expensive beanbag where you can get two normal size people. You ain't getting me and somebody else on there, but like two regular size humans could probably hang out on this thing.
01:07:29
echo_blades
But what I'm realizing right now is I wish I could take this camera off and show you, but it is the most expensive dog bed in the world. Cause One of my dogs is just chilling on it right now. And that's, that's pretty much what it gets used for.
01:07:44
echo_blades
If I'm not in it.
01:07:45
Denis Tyrell
I have a love sack too, but that's for a totally different podcast.
01:07:48
echo_blades
Yeah. That's for the sex machine. 5,000 sending extraordinary.
01:07:52
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
01:07:54
echo_blades
All right, man. I've had enough of you.
01:07:58
Denis Tyrell
um Yeah, I've had enough of me too.
01:08:01
echo_blades
Yeah, this is great. So.
01:08:04
Denis Tyrell
I'm hoping I get to that starting the the dagger tomorrow. That's my goal. Finish off the one knife and right into the next one.
01:08:13
echo_blades
right are you around this weekend?
01:08:18
echo_blades
Are you teaching again? These lessons are really getting in my way, dude.
01:08:21
Denis Tyrell
are they crimping your style? Uh, I have a course on Sunday only.
01:08:22
echo_blades
Yeah, really shitty.
01:08:29
Denis Tyrell
So, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm open for a Saturday if you want to do something
01:08:34
echo_blades
right. Sounds good.
01:08:38
echo_blades
All right, man.
01:08:41
Denis Tyrell
Done, done. Hold on. Wait, what? This stupid thing is... I can't find the button!
01:08:53
echo_blades
There's yeah. Kim, Kim told me that too.
01:09:04
Denis Tyrell
And that's a wrap. Come on.
01:09:06
echo_blades
That's a wrap.