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E69: Blade show recap!
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Jerid is taking the week off so Tre Hill from 3rd Hill Customs and my son Parker fill in and we talk about all the Blade show shenanigans!
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Transcript
Welcome and Introductions
00:00:16
Denis Tyrell
Hey folks, welcome to the Triple T for Knife Makers podcast. Today i am without Mr. Jared, but I have two exciting guests.
Blade Show Experiences
00:00:25
Denis Tyrell
um I've got Trey from Third Hill Customs ah joining me. Hey Trey, how's it going?
00:00:31
Tre'
I mean, how do you guys?
00:00:33
Denis Tyrell
I'm great. And also for the first time ever, i have some, my son Parker joining us on the podcast.
00:00:35
Tre'
No.
00:00:41
Parker
Hey, how's it going, everybody?
00:00:42
Denis Tyrell
Hey, Parker was my my helper and head salesman at the at the table this past weekend at Blade Show, which is mostly going to be our topic for today.
00:00:55
Denis Tyrell
You guys recovered yet?
00:00:57
Tre'
no
00:00:58
Parker
a little bit.
00:00:59
Tre'
Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
00:01:01
Denis Tyrell
it We got...
00:01:02
Parker
Very jet lagged.
00:01:04
Denis Tyrell
I swear I was more tired from this blade show than I think anyone i had been at, even though we were at the Waverly, which is for the first time, and we were the closest and probably did the least amount of walking.
00:01:15
Denis Tyrell
I slept until 9 o'clock today. I haven't done that for, I'd say, at least five years. I can't believe it.
00:01:22
Tre'
yeah it was i mean It was wild.
00:01:22
Denis Tyrell
was so tired.
00:01:24
Tre'
I feel like there was there was a ton of extracurriculars this year. you know There was there's a bunch of stuff going on after the show, before the show, the day before, the day after. so i mean it was says the ah three-day Blade show felt like a five-day Blade show this year somehow.
00:01:39
Denis Tyrell
yeah Yeah, and Trey, you're local, right? You're like half an hour from the show.
00:01:43
Tre'
Yeah, we were i'm thirty four it takes me 34 minutes every morning to get to the Galleria for my house, so it was great.
00:01:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, we had we took the Red Eye, which was a bad start to an already tiring weekend. And ah our flight was Wednesday night, so we got in at Thursday 7-ish, 7 or 8 a.m.
00:02:05
Denis Tyrell
with zero sleep because I can never sleep on a plane.
00:02:08
Tre'
Same. Can't sleep on planes.
00:02:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and the dickhead beside us, like, so it's me and Parker and then the guy beside us at the aisle, and I'm not talking about Jared.
00:02:18
Tre'
thought you were talking about your kid beside you.
00:02:19
Denis Tyrell
just it No, no.
00:02:20
Tre'
was like, oh my God.
00:02:22
Denis Tyrell
Well, he was beside it. I made Parker have the middle seat since ah yours truly is paying for the flight.
00:02:28
Tre'
Status.
00:02:28
Denis Tyrell
um um This guy decides on an overnight flight he's going to leave his light on and read his book the entire time. There's other lights in the entire plane except for the guy beside us.
00:02:40
Denis Tyrell
So that didn't help.
00:02:41
Tre'
I feel like if you're booking that flight, you can you can buy a Kindle.
00:02:42
Parker
So.
00:02:44
Tre'
like it's It's time to get a Kindle and put it in dark mode.
00:02:46
Denis Tyrell
ah yeah Right?
00:02:48
Tre'
like Welcome to 2025. What it?
00:02:49
Denis Tyrell
It was just, i don't know. I just felt it was really rude to be like having your bright light shine down on a flight where everyone's trying to sleep.
00:02:57
Tre'
but is
00:02:57
Parker
Just have a bit of courtesy.
00:02:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:03:00
Tre'
It's kind of crazy.
00:03:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:03:01
Tre'
I mean, it's like, I mean, planes are like blade show. It's just a giant social experiment of, you know, you know, ah little awareness to keep you out of everyone's way is really goes a long way.
00:03:10
Denis Tyrell
yeah But we got in, we set up right away. We got right to the Waverly and set up. and We were done by, geez, what was it, like 9.30, Parker? We were done.
00:03:20
Parker
Yeah, pretty early.
00:03:23
Denis Tyrell
And then Jared gets the bright idea, let's go and see if we can check in. And I'm like, no fucking way are they going to let us check in. And we registered and they put us on a list. that They called us at 10 o'clock and said our room was ready.
00:03:35
Tre'
Oh my God.
00:03:36
Denis Tyrell
I could not believe it.
Travel Mishaps and Hospitality
00:03:38
Denis Tyrell
And Jared, of course, said, I told you so, I told you so.
00:03:39
Tre'
Told you so, told you so. Yeah, yeah.
00:03:41
Denis Tyrell
but but But that was happy because we we had a nap and a couple-hour nap. And then, you know, got ready to go to your place.
00:03:51
Tre'
I know, it was fun. I was trying to remember what time you guys got out there. So, but it was a lot of fun.
00:03:58
Denis Tyrell
like Well, we had a bit of um Uber confusion.
00:04:04
Tre'
about this last night. I
00:04:07
Denis Tyrell
i I don't know how. i i've This has happened to me before in Uber where I type in the address. I think it tries to find it and then it brings up recommendations.
00:04:18
Denis Tyrell
And I think I like, but i I guess I clicked on one of the recommendations and it was like 15 minutes from your house.
00:04:25
Tre'
and That's crazy.
00:04:26
Denis Tyrell
And we drove there and like, we're knocking on the door.
00:04:26
Tre'
Yeah.
00:04:28
Denis Tyrell
Hey, is this Trace House? And Jared goes walking around the the back.
00:04:34
Parker
He's like trying to hop over the fence.
00:04:36
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:04:36
Tre'
Oh my God.
00:04:37
Denis Tyrell
And I'm like, this doesn't look like like what I imagined Trey's house to be as you've described it.
00:04:38
Tre'
I mean,
00:04:43
Tre'
yeah, I mean, we live in we live in a town called Powder Springs and the original name is Gunpowder Springs. So like a couple of Californians rolling up.
00:04:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's especially like walking up to someone's door unannounced is one thing, but we're trying to walk around on the back of the house, that's like, you know, something you don't do in the South.
00:05:02
Tre'
Did you have to book another Uber or had that guy left or, okay, yeah.
00:05:04
Denis Tyrell
No, luckily we told the guy, this doesn't look like it, so stay here. And then we had to add on to the, you know, I think it was like a $100 Uber day for me, but it was fine.
00:05:09
Tre'
ah Okay, okay. Nice.
00:05:15
Tre'
Oh my God.
00:05:16
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah.
00:05:18
Tre'
It's just cost of doing business. Yeah, it was fun.
00:05:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:05:19
Tre'
I mean, we i mean it was like that was a great night. We had a good time.
00:05:23
Denis Tyrell
ah ah your Your place is gorgeous. It was great to see everyone. You're an incredible host. The food was amazing. um Yeah, it was great.
00:05:30
Tre'
Yeah, we did heirloom bar. Yeah, heirloom barbecue. It's the it's the best gas station barbecue in Atlanta. So...
00:05:35
Parker
That banana pudding, man. Ooh.
00:05:37
Tre'
Oh, my wife made the banana pudding. rose Yeah, yeah.
00:05:38
Denis Tyrell
That was the best part, honestly.
00:05:39
Tre'
She was real excited about it.
00:05:40
Denis Tyrell
I mean, the the barbecue was great.
00:05:40
Tre'
Yeah, yeah,
00:05:42
Denis Tyrell
And I didn't expect to like that banana pudding as much as I did.
00:05:46
Tre'
yeah. She put bourbon in it, so that you that has a little something to do with it, maybe. Yeah,
00:05:51
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it was good to see your shop.
00:05:53
Tre'
the shot was fun.
Knife-Making Marathon
00:05:54
Tre'
It was new rebuild. It was a good time to see it when it's absolutely filthy from three days of three weeks of nonstop work.
00:06:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:06:01
Tre'
Yeah.
00:06:01
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:06:01
Tre'
yeah
00:06:02
Denis Tyrell
ah You are one of the hardest full-time knife makers. I, as in, sorry, one of the hardest knife makers who has a full-time job that I know of.
00:06:11
Tre'
Yeah, it was.
00:06:11
Denis Tyrell
um How many, how many blades did you bring to blade ship?
00:06:15
Tre'
I think the final count was 31. It was like, I think 30.
00:06:19
Denis Tyrell
wow
00:06:19
Parker
Whoa. whoa
00:06:20
Tre'
I think it was 31. And took I took 15 to Austria. This is what really messed me up. I took 15 to Austria. expecting to sell maybe five and I sold, you know, I think right at 10 at the Austria show, which was fantastic.
00:06:37
Tre'
And then I got back and that left me with five. So I made, you know, whatever that is, 26. I made 26 in three weeks. And the first week while I was back out of sinus infection and I was out. I was kind of out of it for five days.
00:06:51
Tre'
So really it was about two and a half weeks worth of, you know, just nonstop 2 a.m., 1 a.m. nights. And getting down to the shop after it my full-time job and then staying down there. So it was a it was stressful, but, you know, it's just what you do.
00:07:06
Tre'
just It's fun. It's what you do. it was fine. I'm exhausted, but it was you and turned out well.
00:07:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:07:12
Tre'
ah you know i kind of would I was really hoping to break 40. I did 30 knives last year, and I was hoping to break 40 this year, um and it just wasn't in the cards. Next year. Next year is 40. Next year I'll have 40.
00:07:23
Tre'
Okay.
00:07:23
Denis Tyrell
40. I don't think I've ever brought even close to 40 knives to blade show.
00:07:28
Parker
We definitely brought a lot more knives last year.
00:07:31
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but I brought a lot lower end knives last year. brought a lot more ah lower end knives last year that I could batch make. This year I brought almost all customs. And...
00:07:41
Tre'
I feel like you had a lot of like stuff on there too. I mean, you had like the straightening hammers and you had key chains and you had your, you had the YouTube knives. i mean, you had a really, I mean, you had a great table with some great knives on it.
00:07:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I'm... um I don't understand Bladeshowling. Every year I think I have it figured out. It's never what I expect. We'll get into that, I'm sure, later on in the podcast.
00:08:02
Tre'
Yeah.
00:08:05
Denis Tyrell
I'm going to break tradition. I'm going to mention my maker spotlight early because my maker spotlight this week is Mr. Martin Huber.
00:08:18
Denis Tyrell
um over at martin hoober underscore knives and the reason i mentioned him early is because we're talking about the austria blade show or sorry of the austria knife show is that is that what he calls it the official name nice okay yeah oh if i knew he was there we definitely would have said bring him on
00:08:28
Tre'
Yeah. ah Knife Show Austria, I believe. So if we say his name three times in a row, he's likely to show up. He's still he's at my house somewhere out this way.
00:08:38
Parker
This is...
00:08:38
Tre'
So he might put he might peek his head it in a minute.
00:08:43
Tre'
Yeah, he's around here somewhere. They were, they ah you know, it's it it was funny. The the Italians ah and the Germans and the Austrians, they had two things on their list that they wanted to see, and that was Walmart and Costco. So my wife took them to Costco this afternoon.
00:09:00
Denis Tyrell
That's so funny. and I'm sure if you had a Buc-ee's closer, that would have been one of them, right?
00:09:02
Tre'
It just breaks their brain.
00:09:07
Tre'
Yeah, Buc-ee's would have been a good one, I think the closest Buc-ee's you know, about 45 hours away from here something. Yeah.
00:09:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. um Yeah. Martin, Martin is super cool. That is the most time I've spent with Martin at a blade show. We got to hung out a lot and talk and, and the guys that he brought um really cool. I love that whole crew that we went to dinner with um the next night.
00:09:30
Denis Tyrell
i'm
00:09:30
Tre'
Oh, yeah, yeah, because that was the Italian, martins and the Martin and the Italians and South Africans and who else was there?
00:09:35
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:09:37
Denis Tyrell
Dimitri.
00:09:37
Tre'
bunch of Italians.
00:09:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:09:38
Tre'
Yeah, oh, Dimitri, he's a Swiss, Dutch.
00:09:41
Denis Tyrell
Swiss. Yeah, we had the whole European contingent there.
00:09:43
Tre'
Yeah.
00:09:44
Denis Tyrell
It was it was great. but um So i was a little that threw me because i the Austria Knife Show was when? It was like a month ago?
00:09:54
Tre'
um It was great podcasting material. I'm looking at my phone um just to get an actual date. It was May 10th.
00:10:05
Denis Tyrell
May 10th. Okay. But next year, you said it's going to be in October next year, right?
00:10:09
Tre'
October.
00:10:10
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
00:10:11
Tre'
I don't know the exact dates. don't know if it's like fully, fully locked in, but October is the next date.
00:10:15
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:10:17
Tre'
October 2026, not 2025. So October 2026. october twenty twenty six
00:10:20
Denis Tyrell
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Um, yeah, that's good. And I think that's better for, for folks going to blade show because they were pretty close together.
00:10:26
Tre'
Oh, it's for me. Yeah, for me, for sure.
00:10:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:10:30
Tre'
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:31
Denis Tyrell
I mean, just for, if you, for selling stock, like having, having to make knives between a show that's a month later is crazy.
00:10:40
Tre'
hundred percent 100%. And I think, I don't know of many shows. any i don't I don't know of a show. I've been looking for a show in the fall for a while, like a good show in the fall. And I don't know if there's really one.
00:10:52
Tre'
I'm not sure when, i don't remember when Blade Show Utah is. I know Texas is.
00:10:55
Denis Tyrell
That's October.
00:10:57
Tre'
That one's October. Yeah.
00:10:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. It's usually like the first or second week of October.
00:11:01
Tre'
Okay. Yeah. um And so like it's really good to have a fall show because I do think that that like being able to tap into this like Christmas buying season and um trying to do all this stuff.
00:11:11
Denis Tyrell
Absolutely. Yeah.
00:11:13
Tre'
that you know It's post-vacation dollars, so everyone right now is holding dollars to um go on vacation. and I think this is that was a common trend amongst Blade Show this year you know from a lot of tables and a lot of makers I talk to.
00:11:26
Tre'
um But i think the i think I think a fall show is really great. It's a good idea.
00:11:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Um, Parker, that's the only one you haven't been to, right? The Utah one.
00:11:36
Parker
Yeah, i believe so. I've been to Texas and Atlanta.
00:11:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:11:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. ah The Utah one is definitely the smallest of the three only because I think it's jumped around. I mean,
Maker Camp vs Blade Show
00:11:47
Denis Tyrell
it was in, uh, Oregon.
00:11:50
Denis Tyrell
It was in Portland for a while and then it went to California one year and that was terrible.
00:11:54
Tre'
Right.
00:11:57
Denis Tyrell
Um,
00:11:57
Tre'
Right.
00:11:58
Denis Tyrell
ah which is actually the first Blade Show ever went to. So everything was up from there. um
00:12:03
Tre'
Started from the bottom.
00:12:04
Denis Tyrell
we had to wait It was during COVID. We had to have vaccine cards. We had to have masks.
00:12:07
Tre'
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12:08
Denis Tyrell
Like, it was ridiculous.
00:12:10
Tre'
I don't need paperwork to go to a show.
00:12:12
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah. Um, but so I think it's, I think it's found a home in Salt Lake City, but, uh, it's not my favorite venue, not my favorite show.
00:12:22
Denis Tyrell
We always, in the last couple of years, we've always gone to maker camp in, uh, which is not a knife show, but we've gone to maker camp in upstate York.
00:12:28
Tre'
Right.
00:12:31
Tre'
That's October 2, isn't it?
00:12:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. It's usually the same weekend or the weekend after.
00:12:36
Tre'
Right.
00:12:36
Denis Tyrell
Uh, so you usually got a pick between them.
00:12:39
Tre'
hey i like i I told myself last year I was going to Maker Camp and just just didn't make it. It just wasn't in the cards for whatever reason. Actually, I say it's not in the cards like it was, you know, I had something going on. But honestly, I just forgot to like you know make arrangements to get up there.
00:12:53
Tre'
um But, I mean, you want to about a great experience. I mean, I've heard nothing but great things about Maker Camp. Except the year it flooded. But it's nothing but a great thing.
00:12:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, even even then, even then, there was nobody, we were all we're all in good spirits, it was fun.
00:13:02
Tre'
But even then, it was a great, yeah, yeah.
00:13:07
Denis Tyrell
um it's It's a totally different experience than Blade Show. It is not a trade show. it's like It's like a camp and there's like different tents. You want, oh, you want to do flint napping, you want to do this, you want to do that.
00:13:19
Denis Tyrell
it's 9 30 at night hey let's forge a knife let's go over to the forging tent to the blacksmith tent and forge a knife or forge whatever uh whatever so it's it's a doing thing not a watching thing kind of if if that makes sense
00:13:33
Tre'
and you
00:13:34
Parker
walk around, spend a lot of money.
00:13:34
Tre'
Yeah, and the crowd did it. What was that? Sorry.
00:13:38
Parker
It's not walking around and spending a lot of money like blade.
00:13:41
Tre'
but Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:13:41
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:13:43
Tre'
um The people MakerCamp gets, I mean, I don't i don't i know Jimmy Dress is there. I don't really know the whole story about MakerCamp or his involvement with it. But, like, I mean, they pull some people to MakerCamp.
00:13:55
Tre'
I mean, there's there's a – it's a laundry list of, like, everyone you're watching online.
00:13:56
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:14:00
Tre'
it's It's cool. don't know.
00:14:01
Denis Tyrell
And in for knife makers, like the first year we went, um I had like, you know, you're hanging out. Okay. Marekko does his, basically did a master class on making um integral knife from forging the billet to grinding the integral to everything, shaping the handle.
00:14:25
Denis Tyrell
And I was standing over his shoulder the entire time.
00:14:28
Tre'
Did he, I mean, was that like a one shot class or was this over like three days?
00:14:30
Denis Tyrell
No, it was all through the weekend, like an hour here, an hour in the afternoon, an hour in the morning, an hour.
00:14:32
Tre'
Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah.
00:14:35
Denis Tyrell
But I mean, that's like a $2,000 class with Morocco. I mean, like we had to do that.
00:14:39
Tre'
yeah
00:14:41
Denis Tyrell
And last year, um, it was, it was fun for J. Jared was up there or Jared was in the, the Broadbeck tent. Uh, they had, ah that little power hammer, they had a press, they had a a couple of anvils and Him and Brent are forging knives beside Josh Prince making an integral cleaver.
00:15:07
Tre'
It's and speaking I mean, it's just that's yet another wizard at Blade Show.
00:15:08
Denis Tyrell
You just don't get to do that.
00:15:11
Tre'
I mean, Josh Prince is a wizard. like
00:15:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:15:14
Tre'
this was This year is my first year meeting Josh Prince in person, and he's just like, ah number one, what a lovely human being.
00:15:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:15:20
Tre'
ah But number two, what a talented maker with like a vision that's so unique to him. It's really cool.
00:15:25
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and he's such a gracious guy. Like, he's so nice and yeah and so easy to talk to. And he's helped me on the, like, with the stainless Damascus.
00:15:30
Tre'
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:15:34
Denis Tyrell
And I've, you know I've had him on videos before. It looks similar to what you and I did with the jamones talking about the stainless Damascus.
00:15:41
Tre'
Oh, sure. Yeah.
00:15:43
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, he's helped me a lot.
00:15:44
Tre'
Yeah, he and I got in a long talk about, like, stainless woots over the weekend, and it's the last thing I should have talked about, but I did, because now I want to do it.
00:15:51
Denis Tyrell
Is that a thing? I didn't even know that's a thing.
00:15:52
Tre'
so Yeah. Did Parker go to Maker Camp with you last year?
00:15:57
Denis Tyrell
No.
00:15:57
Parker
I've never been to a maker camp.
00:15:59
Tre'
Oh, man.
00:15:59
Denis Tyrell
No.
00:15:59
Parker
I'd love to go one year.
00:16:01
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, we might drag him this year.
00:16:01
Tre'
there's a there's And it's not just, you know, I think the cool thing about Maker Camp is it's, That name is, ah you know, I love on the Blade Show episode, we're talking about Maker Camp so much that I've never been to.
00:16:13
Tre'
But the Maker Camp, it is makers of all walks of life. I mean, there's engravers, there's, you know, online engineers that are, you know, there's a girl that is Xyla Foxen, who is, ah she's building an airplane in her garage right now. And and fighting for like, you know, like this, like social awareness of mental health for pilots.
00:16:33
Tre'
I mean, it's just there's ah it's all walks of life and people that are there that are like just really, really cool, really down to earth. And you can spend time FaceTime with them. And it's just super talented people that are, you know, that exist in this kind of same world that we do.
00:16:46
Tre'
It's really cool.
00:16:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. And all the makers are a little quirky, so we all we'll mesh well together.
00:16:51
Tre'
should we all say I mean, a normal person can't do that.
00:16:52
Denis Tyrell
but
00:16:55
Tre'
I mean, they can, I'm sure. But like, you know, I mean, the greats are always a little weird.
00:17:01
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. So back to Bladeshell.
00:17:06
Tre'
Yeah.
00:17:06
Denis Tyrell
So um one of the first people of the
Sponsors and Their Support
00:17:10
Denis Tyrell
day, actually, even before I saw you, one of the first people i hooked up was my twin, Lawrence Lake, of course.
00:17:17
Denis Tyrell
He strolled in and hooked up with us. um drop some stuff at the table of course everyone if you don't know who lawrence lake is you should lawrence is the owner and purveyor at maritime knife supply one of our longest sponsors i got all my stuff from maritime you guys should too lawrence is the best he's also a maker
00:17:33
Tre'
Thank
00:17:41
Denis Tyrell
So go check out Maritime Knife Supply for all your needs. I especially love for Damascus that you can get him to cut the steel to whatever length you want. I just put in an order the other day and i I thought I'd put it in the notes, but sometimes I forget and he calls, he always, he talked to me at Bladeshow and he goes, hey, what do you want that steel cut to?
00:18:00
Denis Tyrell
And he's the guy that cuts it physically um to make sure that it it ends up getting right.
00:18:03
Tre'
Oh, wow.
00:18:06
Denis Tyrell
So,
00:18:07
Tre'
Yeah, I mean, I ordered I ordered from maritime to mean, it's it's I had a question about, you know, my polishing stones, because I'm always kind of switching things up. and he was able to answer everything I needed to know about that. And then I needed RWL for this custom special order that I was doing and forgot to order from Sweden and called Lawrence. And i was like, hey, man, do you got this? Can you get it to me quick? And he just right out the door.
00:18:30
Tre'
So, I mean, and's he's a great dude, great supplier.
00:18:30
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:18:32
Tre'
So I would, I agree with all that.
00:18:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And he's, he's just a good guy. He's, he's great to hang out. We we always end up hanging out together, whether it's a blade show maker camp, wherever. So, uh, yeah, he came with us.
00:18:43
Tre'
Yeah, he was at the he was at the house, right? Yeah, he was with, ah yeah, he was over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:18:47
Tre'
it was It was cool to have him out let him poke around shop and all that stuff. So he's good dude. Yeah.
00:18:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. It was good. um Yeah, so set up and then Friday morning. i i'm Here's something that like that I was struggling, I'm still struggling with, whether I want to move my table.
00:19:09
Denis Tyrell
And I'm curious how Friday went ah traffic-wise for you, because your table's a little bit closer than mine. I don't know that it's massively closer. But what did you think of Friday at Blade?
00:19:21
Tre'
i think I think if you ask everyone at Blade Show, they'll complain about their table. um But they love their neighbors, right? So I think, like, like for me, it's it's about the it's really about, like, curating this row and having having good neighbors that you trust. ah I can leave my table for two hours, and I know someone's watching my stuff, right?
00:19:40
Tre'
um But I will tell you that, you know, I mean, I felt like attendance was down this year in general. um So I don't think that...
00:19:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:19:49
Tre'
There were definitely times where I would look down our row and there was nobody. um And it felt like, oh, there's a bunch over here. But then if I walk around when I i would walk around when my tables, my rows empty.
00:20:02
Tre'
And then when I come back, it feels like no one's in the front and my table's crowded. So I think it just it binges and purges. But I, you know, I don't know. I think if you if if you like your neighbors, you stay. And there's a lot to you know repeat customers and repeat business and letting people know where you are. And I think a little consistency in your table helps.
00:20:22
Tre'
So I don't know if there's the perfect spot.
00:20:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:24
Tre'
No.
00:20:24
Denis Tyrell
Parker, what did you think? would you Compared to last year, did you think Friday this year was a little slower or what?
00:20:30
Parker
ah Yeah, it definitely did start out a bit slow. It very it really picked up around Saturday. it That was definitely the busiest day of the year, but traffic was for sure down this year.
00:20:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. And I do think overall, like, we always get that burst around... 10 or 11 on Saturday and there was a lot of foot traffic. Like when, when people have a hard time walking between each other in the rows, like that's a good sign. I felt like we only had that for about two hours.
00:20:59
Tre'
we got We got a visitor here real quick. I think he wants to say hi.
00:21:02
Denis Tyrell
Oh, up there is.
00:21:02
Tre'
i' You want to say hi to Dennis?
00:21:04
Denis Tyrell
There he is.
00:21:04
Tre'
Hello, everyone.
00:21:05
Parker
There it is.
00:21:05
Tre'
and I told you he was here somewhere.
00:21:06
Denis Tyrell
yeah Just want to say, I didn't even know you were there and I picked you for my maker spotlight this week. So yes.
00:21:14
Tre'
Really?
00:21:16
Tre'
I said if you say his name three times, he' like Beetlejuice, he'll show up and he Nice.
00:21:22
Denis Tyrell
sarah We were messaging each other an hour ago about the about the YouTube Knife Maker Challenge. I thought you were...
00:21:31
Tre'
Happy to be a part,
00:21:34
Denis Tyrell
i'm happy to have you in the challenge. We're going to have some new blood in the challenge this year. So that's great.
00:21:38
Tre'
happy to be a part. and rub part
00:21:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i'm I'm looking forward to seeing what magic you're going to bring.
00:21:46
Tre'
So I'll let you guys a little again.
00:21:47
Denis Tyrell
it
00:21:47
Tre'
You're good. you good you good
00:21:48
Denis Tyrell
oh that's cool.
00:21:49
Tre'
ah follow
00:21:49
Denis Tyrell
that's That's funny that he's there.
00:21:51
Tre'
I knew like Beetlejuice. I knew he'd pop in here in a second. they ah ah Yeah, traffic wise. yeah He was trying to scare me, he said. So...
00:22:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i one of the things I'm definitely, I i kind of dragged my feet on. i wanted, I should have got one of those overhead banners for the table. Because it was a... Yeah, Parker's shaking his finger at me.
00:22:15
Denis Tyrell
um I should have got that this year. Because I...
Social Dynamics at Blade Show
00:22:20
Denis Tyrell
You know, there are a lot of people saying, oh, I've been looking for you for a while. um I mean, a lot of it is just fans.
00:22:26
Denis Tyrell
It's not necessari necessarily pet fans of the YouTube. Not necessarily people that are going to be, you know, buying stuff.
00:22:29
Tre'
0, oh, 23, 0.
00:22:31
Denis Tyrell
Maybe they will. But a lot of people looking for me that don't necessarily find me. Being the O-row...
00:22:40
Denis Tyrell
It's actually bad because every time somebody looks at it, they're going, oh, you're at table 230.
00:22:45
Tre'
zero zero zero two Oh, twenty three zero oh me yeah,
00:22:48
Denis Tyrell
It's 23. Oh, but every time people think it's 230 and they're off in the booth somewhere looking for me.
00:22:53
Tre'
yeah
00:22:55
Denis Tyrell
um
00:22:56
Tre'
yeah
00:22:56
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, that's bad.
00:22:58
Tre'
I mean, it's interesting because, I mean, even – mean, there's some big guys that moved around this year. I think – don't quote me on this. So if I'm wrong, i I apologize in advance. But I believe, like, Will Stelter was in a different ah row and table this year.
00:23:12
Tre'
um so
00:23:12
Denis Tyrell
He got a booth, didn't he?
00:23:14
Tre'
No, he was in a – yeah, he was near the artificery.
00:23:14
Denis Tyrell
Did he a Oh, he's in it team.
00:23:17
Tre'
He was near Gabe Fletcher, the artificery, and Josh Prince was right behind him. Yeah. The Artificery, I know, was in a different table. So, don't know.
00:23:26
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:23:26
Tre'
i think I feel like there were probably a lot of decisions that were... Some people were... Maybe they won't come to Blade Show. And then that's when your table gets moved. If you don't rebook and know by December.
00:23:37
Tre'
So... allan But...
00:23:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, the the main the main thing for me is if I move tables, um I love all my neighbors. We're right beside um um Eric Greener, Holland Anvil,
00:23:46
Tre'
Mm-hmm.
00:23:52
Denis Tyrell
um um and actually the guys beside, Berg Blades that just started beside us, those guys are really cool. So I like all my neighbors. um James at Wasteland Forge is a new neighbor this year.
00:24:06
Tre'
Oh, yeah, his table moved.
00:24:06
Denis Tyrell
So that
00:24:07
Tre'
he was up He was closer up front last year, too, yeah.
00:24:08
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I love all the neighbors, but I don't know. i i did I didn't do that well this year. This is probably one of the worst Blade shows I have, and not that I'm going to attribute it to some other things.
00:24:19
Tre'
Right.
00:24:21
Denis Tyrell
I'm not blaming location. It would have been nicer if I had a banner, though. So that's definitely on the ticket for next year.
00:24:27
Tre'
I will say, I do think that you're that area that you're in for whatever reason feels like a supplies this feels like the supplies corner. I feel like there's a lot of handle mill material sellers. There's a lot of that over there. So I wonder if sometimes if, if other makers are crowding your in, you know, makers aren't really our buyers a lot of times.
00:24:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:24:50
Tre'
Um, I wonder if your area is getting crowded with people buying supplies and maybe that's discouraging, uh, it's just, it's, it's crowding at the table in a way. I don't know. I've, I've, I was in this, I've been thinking about, I was thinking about blade show too. Cause again, you know, traffic like you said, traffic felt down.
00:25:08
Tre'
ah My show ended up all right on Sunday, but Saturday I was thinking a lot about it. And i was like, is, should this, should blade show be broken up with like, Hey, materials suppliers are here and the ballast on kids are there and not necessarily chef knives, but like makers are in, you know, these middle rows or something. I don't know. I don't,
00:25:28
Parker
Separate it by category.
00:25:28
Tre'
I feel like that's what I'm going to ask.
00:25:30
Parker
get what
Sales Strategies and Market Insights
00:25:31
Parker
you mean.
00:25:31
Tre'
Sure, yeah. So people can kind of find the area. If you're looking for independent people that are making knives, which is the bulk of the show, maybe that's three complete blocks, but anyone that's selling materials is in a corner.
00:25:46
Tre'
It's like a maker supply central or something.
00:25:46
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:25:49
Tre'
I don't know.
00:25:50
Denis Tyrell
i think I think that would have been an awesome idea the year they set it up.
00:25:50
Tre'
There's no answer to any of this. Okay.
00:25:55
Denis Tyrell
I think it would be a total clusterfuck to try to do it now because you know somebody, ah whole contingent are going to be pissed off because they're already at the front and they're suppliers and they don't want to be booked into some other corner with a bunch of suppliers.
00:26:01
Tre'
Somebody's going to mad about it. Yeah. But.
00:26:09
Tre'
Sure.
00:26:11
Denis Tyrell
So,
00:26:11
Tre'
Whatever you do, you can't make everyone happy, but like, you know, the collectors, all the guys that are selling, you know, the antique folders and all the case knives and all that, they're all kind of in the same area.
00:26:13
Denis Tyrell
No.
00:26:20
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:26:21
Tre'
um A lot of the Texas, you know, the Texas Slip Joint cartel, they've got their row. So, I mean, that's more like curated kind of like what we've done with our row where it's I'm surrounded by Italians because I've told Blade Show that I'm the translator.
00:26:34
Tre'
And it's great.
00:26:36
Parker
you.
00:26:36
Denis Tyrell
Oh, sure. We're going to the southern guy from Georgia as the translator?
00:26:37
Tre'
Yeah.
00:26:41
Tre'
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:41
Denis Tyrell
That's not going to bode well.
00:26:42
Tre'
I i speak fluent Italian.
00:26:42
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
00:26:44
Tre'
they um I don't at all, but not a lick. But the um it was a good and it was a good way to get in. But, um you know, it's fun. And then, you know, you work on this stuff with your neighbors and your neighbors can make or break a show.
00:26:57
Tre'
If anyone's looking at a table, like it's the best thing you can do is get to know your neighbors and, you know.
00:27:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And, and had fun with them. We had Seth beside us. He's also moved up by um like, he's basic cross the, the hall, the cross the row from Artificiary, right?
00:27:14
Tre'
Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:15
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. He's another one that moved up. yeah That's a real power row now.
00:27:18
Tre'
Mm-hmm.
00:27:18
Denis Tyrell
um Yeah. Wouldn't mind being up closer to that, but it's a, that's a lot of competition in that row though.
00:27:25
Tre'
Yeah, i will I will say being closer forward is probably a better move.
00:27:26
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:27:30
Tre'
Closer to the front doors is, I would say, better.
00:27:31
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:27:33
Tre'
It's just less chances for, you know, someone to see something shiny and veer off on, like, snaking back and forth through the paths.
00:27:40
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:27:40
Tre'
Yeah.
00:27:41
Denis Tyrell
And the the other thing that is unfounded, i i don't know why, i like my table to face the door.
00:27:45
Tre'
Sure.
00:27:51
Denis Tyrell
don't know why. and i know why, because if I do a banner, I want people to see the banner. I want people as they're walking up to the table to see it as opposed to having to go around this backside.
00:28:00
Tre'
Sorry.
00:28:01
Denis Tyrell
But I mean, you're on that backside of the table and it's working for you, but you're also a little closer to the front.
00:28:02
Tre'
so
00:28:06
Tre'
Yeah, and you know the all the French folder makers are across from me. So like like the Texas Slip Joint Cartel, those guys are all in a row. All the french folder make the fancy French folder makers are in a row as well, and those guys are right across from me.
00:28:19
Denis Tyrell
come
00:28:21
Tre'
So um you know it it i'm and I'm stuck in the middle of Europe. I'm just surrounded surrounded by Europeans. I mean, it's fantastic. I love it, clearly. But the that's just kind of how where I ended up. and i i Unless we all moved, I wouldn't move. There'd be zero chance because then your neighbors can make or break a show.
00:28:43
Tre'
I truly believe it.
00:28:47
Tre'
And we all shall still chef night.
00:28:48
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, well, we've got two I've got two new neighbors.
00:28:49
Tre'
I think so. Yeah.
00:28:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah, that's true. You guys all have. At least where I'm at, um except for James, there's not really people that do what I do around my tables.
00:29:04
Tre'
right I think when a show feels slow, everyone starts figuring out what went wrong.
00:29:04
Denis Tyrell
So that was good too, but maybe it's good, maybe it's not. i don't know. It's good to have, maybe it's good to have a group of similar things around and then people go there to look for all those things and you're included in that. So who knows?
00:29:21
Tre'
And I don't know if the table location is really is really the the the thing that would affect it.
00:29:23
Denis Tyrell
yeah true
00:29:27
Denis Tyrell
the
00:29:31
Denis Tyrell
yeah I'll be honest, in the last day and a half, I've been like, you know, overthinking everything. i went through the,
00:29:41
Tre'
Oh,
00:29:44
Denis Tyrell
the you know Did I do something wrong? Was my pricing off? Which I think it was. i think um it come I've been talking a lot probably over the last year that I think the the contraction of the market is coming.
00:29:58
Denis Tyrell
i think it's here. I think we're seeing that.
00:30:00
Tre'
oh yeah. Yeah.
00:30:00
Denis Tyrell
I think we're going to see...
00:30:00
Tre'
yeah
00:30:02
Denis Tyrell
a contraction in makers, fewer buyers, which is obviously going to cause a you know the market to contract. Some makers going to get out of it. ah So I think the the market is flooded with knives right now with makers.
00:30:16
Denis Tyrell
So we're going to see some leave. And I think we're just starting to see that this year.
00:30:21
Tre'
yeah and it's tough. i mean my business is I mean, my business has completely changed as a result
00:30:22
Denis Tyrell
so yeah And I do think my prices were probably too high.
00:30:28
Tre'
of I had a notion because I can see do so much with retailers so I can watch what
00:30:33
Parker
Thank you.
Innovations and New Products
00:30:36
Tre'
my retailers are moving and what they're sitting on these days.
00:30:39
Tre'
And that $399 price point is the sweet spot ah for my knives currently And so i was kind of trying to be conscious of that. And I brought a lot of those knives and I sold out of those. I mean, the only thing I took home was that really expensive, you know, super polished Honyaki set, which I had no expectations of that selling um at the show. But everything else sold.
00:31:05
Tre'
I mean, I had a $300 Kira Damestil Kira Dashi that moved. So mean, weird kind of high end stuff was moving, but it was ah that that $400 price point was where I found to be a sweet spot.
00:31:18
Tre'
And it's that's a tough thing to hit. I mean, i I've spent forever trying to um mitigate my material cost as best as possible so I can hit that that spot.
00:31:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was definitely, I think, uh, had priced myself out of a lot of, purchases. So I think I'm going I've already lowered the prices and put them on the website today.
00:31:39
Denis Tyrell
That's what I spent most of the day, uh, working on.
00:31:41
Tre'
Sure.
00:31:43
Denis Tyrell
And honestly, most of my customers are not coming to blade show. So there's that.
00:31:47
Tre'
Right. I mean, you you probably you have a kind of an international direct to consumer base anyway. So I feel like, yeah.
00:31:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, I want to mention one of our other sponsors, which is Mr. Coy Baker at Baker Forge and Tool, whose booth is just around the corner from my table.
00:32:07
Denis Tyrell
But Coy's and I, I don't know how well you know Coy, probably a little bit, I don't know.
00:32:14
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:32:14
Tre'
I know Gray better, but Gray's in that group.
00:32:16
Tre'
So yeah.
00:32:16
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:17
Tre'
a
00:32:18
Denis Tyrell
But, um, they had a great show. um, they're just introducing their stainless Damascus line. So they had some at the show and I think half of it sold Thursday morning to makers.
00:32:31
Tre'
Nice.
00:32:32
Denis Tyrell
So, uh, they'll be, um, I think, I don't think they're officially, um, got that, that line up and running.
00:32:33
Tre'
Nice.
00:32:41
Denis Tyrell
They're still putting together some of the tooling for that line, that product,
00:32:44
Tre'
I was looking for it. I was looking for it Friday on their website and i didn't see it. So unless it's changed since then, then i don't think it's up.
00:32:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, no, I don't think they had some for the show, but I don't think theyre they have it up for you know production sales yet. But I know they did really well at the show. Most of their steel was gone. When I talked to Coy Friday morning, I think he said they had seven jugs of of the 50 Gator piss that they brought.
00:33:10
Tre'
Wow.
00:33:10
Denis Tyrell
That's what they had left Friday. Sorry, not Friday. Sunday morning. Sunday morning.
00:33:13
Tre'
Nice.
00:33:15
Denis Tyrell
And I imagine most of that went. So...
00:33:18
Tre'
Oh, I mean, as a plug for them, I mean, I purchased the new stainless Gator, the Gator Piss Max.
00:33:23
Denis Tyrell
The macx max, the max.
00:33:24
Tre'
Yeah, the Max. I purchased a Juggeredad. I'm super pumped to try it. And honestly, they my my favorite new thing from someone who makes, you know, carbon steel polished chef knives, that ah the nano the nano ceramic coating.
00:33:40
Tre'
I am...
00:33:40
Denis Tyrell
The gator skin.
00:33:42
Tre'
Yeah, gator scan is what it is. I am super pumped on that. Like I'm I'm all in on this gator scan. i I well, I'm all in on testing it to see what it does. I don't know, you know, but I assume it's a great product.
00:33:53
Tre'
Just.
00:33:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I've used it.
00:33:54
Tre'
ah
00:33:55
Denis Tyrell
It was actually applied to one of my knives on the table. And I'm still that my video on gator skin was supposed to come out last week, folks.
00:33:58
Tre'
Oh, nice.
00:34:03
Denis Tyrell
But um I had some issues in testing it. I didn't realize like I was going to have to do some lengthier tests that I couldn't do in the day and a half and me being procrastinating and waiting until.
00:34:15
Denis Tyrell
ah Day before I had to put my video in the can so I just didn't have enough time to do those tests I'm hoping this week I will have the gator skin review video but um I had on one of my knives it makes like water beat off like like like rain X on a windshield kind of thing even mineral oil will beat off like that and I've got a couple swatches down in the like metal coupons down in the shop and
00:34:31
Tre'
Nice. Nice. Nice.
00:34:37
Tre'
Yeah.
00:34:43
Denis Tyrell
that I did in gator skin and, uh, but one without one with and dip them in water, ah before the show. And I'm anxious to go see what they look like.
00:34:53
Tre'
Yeah.
00:34:54
Denis Tyrell
And I know one of them is going to be rusty and one of them is not. So, well, yeah, definitely.
00:34:58
Tre'
and In honor of Jared, I'd be remiss to not make a joke about the beat-off comments for him.
00:35:07
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:35:07
Tre'
I got to pay him a little homage. and i can't let that I can't let that one go.
00:35:09
Denis Tyrell
d
00:35:11
Tre'
i can't let it go.
00:35:12
Denis Tyrell
well
00:35:13
Tre'
I'm not going to make the joke, but i can't I have to acknowledge that it's there. Thank
00:35:17
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, but go get yourself some Baker Forge and Tool, Steel, Gator Piss, any of the types, and now Gator Skin that you can get.
00:35:19
Tre'
you.
00:35:27
Denis Tyrell
And use the gisk the the gigogo the discount code TTT10 to get yourself 10% off is any of the Baker Forge products.
00:35:39
Tre'
yeah the gator skin is going to be i think the gator skin is going to really great for chef knife makers for you know stopping some patino and carbon steels and things like that so it's probably would do a good job of like locking oxides in as well if you think about it so like
00:35:44
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:48
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:35:54
Tre'
um you spend all this time etching ah chef knife and you cut something acidic. So would, it's going to keep that knife looking like it is longer. So, I mean, it's, I'm excited for it.
00:36:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I'm curious. um I didn't get the opportunity to go to Grayson's um or Baker's um talk on on gator piss and etching because you know we all fight with how to keep the oxides on the the blackness on the knife after etching.
00:36:05
Tre'
Hmm.
00:36:22
Denis Tyrell
And I got a feeling gator piss is going to be great for that too.
00:36:25
Tre'
Yeah, i I would agree. I mean, it it's frustrating enough to the point for me that I don't even etch.
00:36:29
Denis Tyrell
got
00:36:31
Tre'
I don't etch. i Well, you know, my stainless Damascus, I'll etch, but ah my carbon steels, I stay away from it because it just, the look changes over time and I'd rather have something that, you know, just stays.
00:36:45
Tre'
That's just, that's my own personal,
00:36:46
Denis Tyrell
yeah So you etch it and then buff it clean kind of thing?
00:36:50
Tre'
I don't etch at all.
00:36:51
Denis Tyrell
Oh, you don't etch at all, really?
00:36:52
Tre'
I don't, my same, my, I don't etch at all. So it's a little more, not traditional finish, but it is a, um since it's a stainless over a carbon, you can delineate it. It polishes at a different, you know, I guess like refraction.
00:37:04
Denis Tyrell
I see.
00:37:05
Tre'
Right.
00:37:06
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:37:06
Tre'
um So it just looks like it is. So I i quit. It's one step
Community Engagement
00:37:10
Tre'
i don't have to worry about. And when I'm trying to finish 25 knives and two weeks, not having to etch 20 of them was a huge time saver. So yeah,
00:37:19
Denis Tyrell
I know a bunch of years ago, Morocco did a, like one of his like high Damascus knives, but then chose not to finish it purely because he wanted the patina.
00:37:31
Denis Tyrell
He wanted the person as they're using the knife to say, oh, wow, that's really cool. As it patinas, then the pattern emerges, which is really bold for a knife maker to be like, you know, I think this is cool enough that I don't need to show it off.
00:37:38
Tre'
Yeah.
00:37:46
Denis Tyrell
You know what i mean?
00:37:46
Tre'
Yeah, i mean, but he's, you know, he's another wizard, you know, I mean, they're they're clearly Damascus wizards and Gabe Fletcher's another one, but like Marekta Ojai, like those guys are all wizards.
00:37:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, for sure.
00:37:53
Denis Tyrell
Yes.
00:37:55
Tre'
Mert Tansu, you're around near Mert, you're over in that area, and he had stainless steel woots there, which was boggling my mind the whole time.
00:38:02
Denis Tyrell
i I did not catch that table. And you said that earlier, stainless steel woots, which is like blowing my mind right now.
00:38:09
Tre'
yeah look I haven't stopped thinking about it for three days and it's going to be, a I can, I can feel the problem like growing in my mind.
00:38:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:38:18
Denis Tyrell
Okay. i mean
00:38:19
Tre'
Yeah.
00:38:20
Denis Tyrell
Spencer Sanderson, I'm putting this in your brain now. I want to see you do stainless woots.
00:38:26
Tre'
Yeah. It's interesting. It's there's anyway.
00:38:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:38:29
Tre'
Yeah. It's a different, that's a different podcast, but that's a whole podcast.
00:38:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:38:33
Tre'
Yeah.
00:38:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but I'm jumping back and forth because I a million things in my head. Yeah, after your place, we went to Maximus Knives, Neil's place that we always do.
00:38:44
Tre'
New Warren, yeah.
00:38:45
Denis Tyrell
So we were jumping all over the place Thursday night. It was great to see all all my friends over there. Got to see Brian House and and all those guys. And Jordan Lamote was there, so that was cool.
00:38:57
Denis Tyrell
Got to talk with him for a bit.
00:38:59
Tre'
Oh, Jordan, yeah, yeah.
00:38:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:39:00
Tre'
I've never met him, but I've i've heard nothing but great things. is His a little engravings have been fantastic or however he does it. I don't i don't understand it. i can
00:39:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, we talked.
00:39:09
Tre'
I can't wrap head around.
00:39:10
Denis Tyrell
As soon as I saw him, I i pulled him aside said, hey, I want to talk about this Kafkari stuff that you've been doing and like yeah and where you learned it and all this.
00:39:16
Tre'
kafka That's the name of it. That's the name of it.
00:39:19
Denis Tyrell
and you know It was not a week-long course is basically what he told me. He was in India for like, what is it, six months or something like that, doing it off and on.
00:39:26
Tre'
Yeah. I would say like that guy, that guy needs to be on a podcast telling that story. Cause I followed it along when he was over there and he was over there for a long time studying with absolute masters. And that's, that's just gotta be an interesting story that people need to hear.
00:39:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're not really an interview show, but I'd love to sit down and talk to him for a while about it.
00:39:43
Tre'
Yeah. Yeah. That is fair.
00:39:44
Denis Tyrell
But yeah, i the the guys on Hustle and Grind should have him on and pull that out of him.
00:39:45
Tre'
Fair. Yeah.
00:39:49
Tre'
Yeah, that be a good one. That'd be a good one. Yeah.
00:39:51
Denis Tyrell
But it was cool to meet him. And yeah, so we had good time at Neil's. And that's that was the beginning of being tired for the week because we didn't get back till... What time was it, Parker?
00:40:02
Denis Tyrell
Midnight?
00:40:03
Parker
We didn't get back, yeah around midnight, maybe even like 1 a.m.
00:40:03
Denis Tyrell
Midnight.
00:40:08
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah that was day one after not sleeping well actually after having like an hour long nap from the uh the uh red ice light so
00:40:09
Parker
It was very late.
00:40:19
Parker
but Total sleep that day was probably less than two hours.
00:40:22
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah but uh yeah but i do i gotta bust jared's balls right now
00:40:23
Tre'
Oh, it's rough.
00:40:33
Tre'
It's time.
00:40:35
Denis Tyrell
ah It's time.
00:40:36
Tre'
It's time.
00:40:37
Denis Tyrell
So Mr. Jared is not on the podcast because he's out visiting some friends in North Carolina. um But this guy, this was, you know, he was all happy Friday morning that he went.
00:40:50
Denis Tyrell
He was one of the few that ran to the Microtech booth because he wanted the Microtech knife.
00:40:54
Tre'
Oh, man. Oh, man.
00:40:57
Denis Tyrell
And Jared, I mean, Parker's sad because that kid slept in an extra 10 minutes and missed it by less than two minutes because the guy had what?
00:41:05
Parker
I was there was probably five people in line ahead of me and then they announced they're all sold out and i was like, damn.
00:41:12
Tre'
mad
00:41:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. So Jared's all happy that he gets his Microtech knife. And then Friday night, when we went to dinner, he he went out with Micah and those guys And Saturday morning, he's ah he's he's in a pissy mood.
00:41:28
Denis Tyrell
And I'm like, what's going I can't find my knife.
00:41:29
Tre'
Yeah.
00:41:31
Denis Tyrell
Like, what, the one you just bought? Yeah. Did you check here? did you check there? Yeah.
00:41:36
Tre'
yeah
00:41:37
Denis Tyrell
Can't find anywhere. So he's in a pissy mood all day. We get to, you know, we have pizza, you know, with Brian House and those folks. And Noah's got this goofy look on his face. And he and he says to so this to Jared, Micah has to talk to you.
00:41:56
Denis Tyrell
And I think Noah little blew it a little bit. Like he was a little too serious and like, you could tell something was going on and Micah had his knife. Cause he left it. He, I guess, left it in his car or something like that.
00:42:08
Tre'
Oh, my God.
00:42:09
Denis Tyrell
And I'm like, they should have played it off. Like they were sitting there like, you know, he should have told the story that I, you know, I lost my knife and all this. And then Micah should have just pulled the knife and said, look at this.
00:42:20
Denis Tyrell
Look what I got and started flicking it in and out.
00:42:22
Tre'
Yeah, hit he could have rode that until at least Sunday.
00:42:24
Denis Tyrell
Uh,
00:42:26
Tre'
Like, he he should have had that at least until Sunday.
00:42:26
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Absolutely.
00:42:28
Tre'
yeah, yeah.
00:42:29
Denis Tyrell
Absolutely. And then Jared, of course, is leaving Sunday by 10, 11. ten eleven And he's going back in the room. He's forgetting this, forgetting that. And then he's gone. He's already left.
00:42:43
Denis Tyrell
It's, what time was it, Parker? Like 1130? It was noon.
00:42:48
Parker
Uh, for what?
00:42:49
Denis Tyrell
For when Jared texts me back and says he forgot his Crocs.
00:42:54
Parker
Oh, yeah, that was like...
00:42:55
Denis Tyrell
his famous Crocs.
00:42:57
Parker
That was like... Was that the last day?
00:42:59
Denis Tyrell
It was, yeah, it was Sunday.
00:43:01
Parker
um That must have been like 10.30, 11.
00:43:01
Denis Tyrell
it
00:43:04
Denis Tyrell
I think it was after 11 because I remember it was after a normal checkout time. So it was between at least 1130 and 12. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:11
Tre'
but is that why you had crocs on your table yeah okay I came over and I didn't get the joke at that point but I was just like I knew it was this i knew crocs on the table had something to do with Jared but I had no idea that was part of the story
00:43:13
Denis Tyrell
yes yeah but
00:43:15
Parker
We held those crocs for ransom.
00:43:23
Denis Tyrell
yeah I had a $1 sticker on them and Jared's Crocs on the table. But he sends me a message. dude I forgot my Crocs. I sent him a bad text back that said, oh, that's a shame.
00:43:37
Tre'
It sucks.
00:43:38
Denis Tyrell
That sucks.
00:43:38
Tre'
Too bad.
00:43:39
Denis Tyrell
Too bad.
00:43:39
Tre'
martin
00:43:40
Denis Tyrell
We've already checked out.
00:43:41
Tre'
You have to spend another $25 on
00:43:43
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah. But Parker was nice enough to go back and get them. It would have been nicer if he didn't have his stinky socks still in the –
00:43:51
Parker
Yeah, exactly.
00:43:53
Tre'
Jared. Jared.
00:43:55
Denis Tyrell
And they're like they're like crunchy socks, too. They're not just... Yeah.
00:44:00
Parker
you drop on the floor, going to thud sound.
00:44:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:44:02
Tre'
got those beat-off socks. So...
00:44:05
Denis Tyrell
Oh, come on. and I didn't need to know that.
00:44:09
Tre'
It's the gator skin sock. so
00:44:14
Denis Tyrell
That's an image I'll never need. Yeah, so, Jared, I have your Crocs, and I'm holding them for ransom.
00:44:24
Tre'
you You know, maybe and I think maybe it might have been best for everyone if no one told him.
00:44:26
Denis Tyrell
okay
00:44:29
Tre'
Just, you know, maybe they get left behind, they get left behind. so It's the world telling him that t he shouldn't have these.
00:44:33
Denis Tyrell
Right. And he says something, oh, those are my expensive Crocs. I'm like, what, the $25 ones?
00:44:43
Parker
they're They're cool.
00:44:43
Tre'
I'm doing a lot of shit for someone who's literally wearing Crocs right now.
00:44:44
Parker
They're cool, or reflective talk.
00:44:45
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I know you wear Crocs. We've had this discussion before.
00:44:48
Tre'
Yeah, I'm literally wearing Crocs right now. so
00:44:53
Parker
Moral of the story, Jared, you need to take better care your shit, man.
00:44:53
Denis Tyrell
oh
00:44:57
Denis Tyrell
oh see, getting called out by the 19-year-old. How's that feel, Jared?
00:45:01
Tre'
Put a damn balloon on his belt buckle or something like so he can can find his stuff.
00:45:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah. ah
00:45:09
Tre'
Yeah. It was great to hang out with Jared here. It was great to see him at the show. I've never I so I've never met him in person before.
00:45:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:45:15
Tre'
I didn't. I knew he was at Blade Show last year, but I never got a chance to meet him. So it was really cool to like catch up and do a little shop tour down here with him. he was he had a I think I think Jared had a great time.
00:45:25
Tre'
So yeah.
00:45:26
Denis Tyrell
Oh, you're kidding.
00:45:27
Tre'
It's funny.
00:45:27
Denis Tyrell
He came back and he goes, I got to see the shop.
00:45:33
Denis Tyrell
It was like, like strutting around like a teenage girl.
00:45:36
Tre'
and was funny. It was great to have him out. It was absolutely great to have it out. Maybe
00:45:41
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's good. Um, I did get a chance. I got a chance to stroll around blade show more this year than I normally do. And of course I caught shit from Parker and Jared for like, where have you been for two hours?
00:45:54
Tre'
that's why he didn't sell nothing.
00:45:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah are probably.
00:45:55
Tre'
I don't know. yeah
00:45:58
Denis Tyrell
um But I actually spent a little time in this in the smaller room because we had ah we had a bunch of sponsors in the smaller room, which was cool.
00:46:07
Tre'
Sure.
00:46:08
Denis Tyrell
Over there, we had... Mr. Travis Haynes at Pelican Paste. ah Get yourself some some Pelican Paste, hard wax, soft wax, Pelican Oil, hand salve, soap.
00:46:14
Tre'
Mm-hmm.
00:46:19
Denis Tyrell
And now he's got the um the, and I forget the name of the product. Sorry, Travis. But the the butter for the pans for seasoning your so your cast iron pans.
00:46:29
Tre'
That's cool.
00:46:32
Denis Tyrell
ah He's got that as a new product. So yeah, get yourself some Pelican Pace discount code TTT10. It was great to see Travis have a table for the first time. And I and i talked to him. Actually, we were chatting on our ah my Discord um this morning. And he they did really well. And they'll definitely be back. so So that's great.
00:46:51
Tre'
Yeah, I mean, i I load it up on Pelican Paste too because I use it for bedding tangs inside of a hidden tang hidden hidden ta knives.
00:46:51
Denis Tyrell
Good to hear.
00:46:57
Denis Tyrell
Thanks.
00:46:59
Tre'
It's great for it.
00:47:01
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. And Travis is a good dude.
00:47:04
Tre'
Yeah, it's good, dude.
00:47:04
Denis Tyrell
And then over there is also Matt at Rock Solid Scales, the maker of Grip Tech. And that he exclusively but brought Grip Tech to the show and had a whole ton of different colors and color schemes. and of grip tech.
00:47:21
Denis Tyrell
And actually one of the number one knives that got picked up at my table was Jared's Damascus knife with the copper grip tech on it, which I'm pleased to say Jared sold at the show.
00:47:29
Tre'
Really?
00:47:33
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, so that was great.
00:47:36
Tre'
Do they make that grip technique?
00:47:36
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, go get yourself some grip tech. Sorry, what's that?
00:47:41
Tre'
Do they make grip tech in blocks or is it just for just scales?
00:47:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:47:47
Tre'
Okay, cool.
00:47:47
Denis Tyrell
No, he'll make blocks and sheets. um
00:47:50
Tre'
Oh, nice.
00:47:51
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:47:51
Tre'
I didn't say I missed that table.
00:47:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, go check out Matt.
00:47:53
Tre'
I didn't. i didn't Yeah. I'll check them out.
00:48:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and use the discount code TTT10. Get yourself 10% off.
00:48:03
Parker
Yeah.
00:48:06
Denis Tyrell
um But yeah, there's lots of things over in the in the small room. Got to see the housemaid folks over there. Actually, I want to i want to pause. I want to tell it really cool.
00:48:17
Denis Tyrell
What I think is, you know, makers are cool and our community is awesome.
00:48:21
Tre'
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:23
Denis Tyrell
And I know Kevin over at Ameribraid, they have their huge, I think it's like a triple booth or whatever they have.
00:48:33
Tre'
Big old booth.
00:48:33
Denis Tyrell
And I guess they had some... Yeah, they had some car issues. They weren't able to bring all the stuff that they wanted to bring. They could only bring the three grinders. So he had all this space.
00:48:44
Denis Tyrell
And um I guess he was talking with Brian, and Brian was like, yeah, we can only get a single booth this year, and next year we'll get a bigger booth and all this stuff. And Kevin said, well, why don't you just take the, you know, we'll split this why don't you just take the booth right beside us?
00:48:59
Denis Tyrell
like, how cool is that where you get,
00:49:01
Tre'
Right?
00:49:03
Denis Tyrell
In this community, you get a grinder maker telling another grinder maker that you can have part of his booth right beside him.
00:49:12
Tre'
That's incredible.
00:49:12
Denis Tyrell
I think that is about the coolest thing in this community that somebody could do. So hats off to to the Ameribraid folks. That was super nice. And, you know, you're putting a competitor right beside you.
00:49:25
Denis Tyrell
That's, you know, but what we all got our arms around each other and holding each other up.
00:49:26
Tre'
Yeah.
00:49:31
Denis Tyrell
So I think that's great.
00:49:33
Parker
It's all love.
00:49:33
Tre'
Yeah. man
00:49:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:49:36
Tre'
That's really cool. It's really, really cool.
00:49:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. um I spent way too much money at Bladeshow. I don't know about you, but.
00:49:45
Tre'
Ditto. Koa. Every year, man. Every year, high Koa gets me. But this year, this year, from the... the Yeah, that's
00:49:52
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yes.
00:49:53
Parker
Oh, yeah, you struck it big this year, didn't you?
00:49:53
Denis Tyrell
command it
00:49:54
Tre'
ah Yeah, it was funny because the the first time I met Dennis was in 2022, think.
00:49:56
Denis Tyrell
okay
00:50:00
Tre'
And I was behind high COA. I'd met i was Jared, I think is his name. I'd met ah i'd met ah them and I bought some COA. And he does a raffle every year so for some absurd piece of COA.
00:50:14
Tre'
And the first year he did the raffle, you won. And I was like, wait, the YouTube guy won? I was like, are youre fucking kidding me? like I was like, this isn't fair at all.
00:50:21
Denis Tyrell
I was right.
00:50:21
Tre'
I was like, this ah this game is rigged.
00:50:22
Denis Tyrell
but
00:50:23
Tre'
It's rigged. I tell you, it's rigged. And ah then last year, I didn't, you know, i bought a bunch of Koa for them. But I bought Koa this year. And it's so funny because you and I talked at dinner about when I first met you was over this, like over the raffle of this piece of Koa.
00:50:38
Tre'
And then Sunday, he raffles off a piece of Koa, and I won the Koa this year, and it was it was really funny. There's giant block.
00:50:44
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:50:45
Tre'
I don't even know if i want to cut it up. I think it's just it's too cool to so really giant piece of stabilized Koa.
00:50:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and it's got a live edge on it too, which is cool.
00:50:53
Tre'
It's great. Yeah, but it's, you know, yeah.
00:50:53
Parker
It was a beautiful piece.
00:50:54
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:50:55
Tre'
I mean, it's what, 12 handle blocks of material or something like that?
00:50:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:50:59
Tre'
It's massive.
00:51:00
Denis Tyrell
I still haven't used all mine. Mine was 16-inch, 4x4, 16-inch block.
00:51:02
Tre'
Yeah.
00:51:05
Denis Tyrell
And I still have enough for probably six knives.
00:51:06
Tre'
Yeah.
00:51:09
Tre'
Yeah, I mean, shout out to that guy, because, i mean, he's a he's an artist in his own right. Some of those, like, cultural weapons that he's doing, or historical weapons that he's doing, historical Hawaiian weapons.
00:51:14
Denis Tyrell
totally. Totally.
00:51:20
Tre'
know If anyone's not following HiCoA, then you got to check.
00:51:23
Denis Tyrell
yeah the the Yeah.
00:51:23
Tre'
I don't know if you have a CoA sponsor, so I apologize. But, yeah, CoA's great. Yes. Yes.
00:51:27
Denis Tyrell
I love the i mean i love the natural like um ah tiger shark teeth ones, but the one he has with the Damascus tiger shark teeth, incredible.
00:51:36
Tre'
s
00:51:38
Denis Tyrell
And then he told me how much he was asking for that piece. I'm like, dude, you need to like triple that.
00:51:42
Tre'
not enough. It was not enough.
00:51:44
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:51:45
Tre'
He sold it.
00:51:45
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:51:45
Tre'
and He sold it really fast, which means it was probably too cheap. That's, yeah.
00:51:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that was, and like just the amount of koa in that thing is alone was, yeah.
00:51:53
Tre'
It was massive. And not cheap Koa. Like, he's he's cherry picking his own Koa.
00:51:57
Denis Tyrell
No.
00:52:00
Tre'
I mean, the Koa he has in those blocks are some of the nicest pieces of Koa I've ever seen, so um I buy from them every year, so I'm hitting them up throughout the year. i was like, hey, put it in my Bladeshow box. Put it in my Bladeshow box, and ah pick it up from my Bladeshow.
00:52:11
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah, well, because of that big block that I got, I haven't bought Coe in a while, but I did. Actually, I started the show, i and this is not a sponsor, but I'm going free shout-out to ah Sharp by Coop.
00:52:26
Denis Tyrell
Spent a lot of money over there.
00:52:27
Tre'
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:28
Denis Tyrell
i like, five different knives photographed. um So that was the start of the spending, and then ended up buying... Moving into just using nicer materials.
00:52:43
Denis Tyrell
So I bought about 700 bucks worth of ivory in the first day. Actually, that was Thursday morning.
00:52:49
Tre'
Wow.
00:52:51
Denis Tyrell
So that'll go on mammoth, mammoth.
00:52:52
Tre'
man Mammoth ivory, correct?
00:52:55
Denis Tyrell
Yes, yes.
00:52:55
Tre'
Yeah.
00:52:56
Denis Tyrell
Not else than ivory.
00:52:57
Tre'
yeah
00:53:00
Denis Tyrell
um But some of these like dark gray. And they're they're probably, how thick you think those were, Parker? Like half inch thick?
00:53:06
Parker
Oh, half an inch at least.
00:53:08
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:53:08
Parker
They were thick.
00:53:08
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. big, big scales for like, like a ah frame. It'll be a frame handle buoy.
00:53:15
Tre'
Ah, hell yeah.
00:53:16
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:53:16
Tre'
Hell yeah.
00:53:16
Denis Tyrell
So, and then,
00:53:16
Tre'
That'd be great. That would be and be a cool challenge, a prehistoric challenge. ah
00:53:21
Denis Tyrell
yeah I don't know how many people are going to do that though.
00:53:22
Tre'
Oh, fair. Yeah. it was that
00:53:26
Denis Tyrell
And then I got an actual piece of white ivory that I've never used that, that I can make a full handle, like a gentleman's buoy kind of thing out of.
00:53:36
Tre'
what That's amazing.
00:53:38
Denis Tyrell
yeah so very
00:53:39
Tre'
That's going to be nerve-wracking. yes er The thought of it, like the first thought I had was like, oh my God, that's terrifying. It's just absolutely terrifying.
00:53:49
Denis Tyrell
and when i was making the the gold damascus folders the first time i'd yeah i'd used molar before which i absolutely hate
00:53:55
Tre'
had more stuff.
00:53:57
Denis Tyrell
um But the ivory is a lot easier to work with and I was doing the scales for that um gold Damascus folder.
00:53:59
Tre'
I had more stuff.
00:54:06
Denis Tyrell
But they're so thin at that point and like one wrong move you like it. If I were to drop those from the top of my table onto the floor, like just the the scale, right? It would probably shatter.
00:54:17
Tre'
Yeah.
00:54:17
Denis Tyrell
So you just got to be so careful with that thing. um Yeah, like drilling it, like drilling it and getting some, you know, some blowout.
00:54:26
Tre'
um
00:54:27
Denis Tyrell
You're done.
00:54:28
Tre'
Someone was telling me that they ah they glue up, they glue, they super glue a piece of wood when they're, you know, they're super going a little piece of wood to the backside and drilling through it to keep from blowing out.
00:54:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:54:37
Tre'
And I was like, oh, cool tip. I was like, I'm still not doing it, but it's the cool tip.
00:54:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:54:41
Tre'
So.
00:54:41
Denis Tyrell
I was doing, I had like the painter's tape on the top, like, like rubbed really fine so that I wasn't, um, chipping it out.
00:54:45
Tre'
Yeah.
00:54:48
Denis Tyrell
And actually it it drilled really easily, but, uh,
00:54:48
Tre'
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It smells like a toothache taste. like it like it's and
00:54:55
Denis Tyrell
that's a good one.
00:54:56
Tre'
and so It's a really weird... so if we hear It's a weird material.
00:55:01
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Uh, it It's definitely smelly. but What was the other wood? um Ironwood smells like old feet.
00:55:12
Tre'
Ironwood's tough, too.
00:55:12
Denis Tyrell
yeah Yeah.
00:55:12
Tre'
So...
00:55:13
Denis Tyrell
Both of those is not fun. I think the molar smells worse for some reason. That's where all like the crappy food gets chewed.
00:55:17
Tre'
Oh, by far. Yeah, by far. Yeah, it's a weird one.
00:55:20
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:55:22
Tre'
Westinghouse smells like old Band-Aids. It's like, it's weird.
00:55:24
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:55:25
Tre'
Like, it's all weird stuff.
00:55:27
Denis Tyrell
I have some canary wood. I think it's canary wood that I've never used. And someone said, yeah, it smells like spring tulips.
00:55:35
Tre'
No way.
00:55:36
Denis Tyrell
I've never, i haven't used it yet I have a whole ton of it because I bought someone else's wood collection, but I've never used it.
00:55:41
Tre'
I'm about to make all my knife handles out of canary wood then, so
00:55:44
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, right. What else? said Oh, and I went to Rob's Wildwood and I dropped the usual four or 500 bucks there. I'm really into the burl wood.
00:55:54
Denis Tyrell
So I'm using that a lot.
00:55:55
Tre'
Sure.
00:55:58
Denis Tyrell
and i And the other thing I picked up was some Mother of Pearl, which I've never used.
00:56:03
Tre'
er Yeah. There was a bunch of Pearl there this year. Mm-hmm.
00:56:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. There was a guy that had like a whole table. That's all he had. And that's where I got mine. And I might, I was telling Parker, like, I'm going to be working on an auto soon. And I think I'm just going to like little accents, like the top of the...
00:56:21
Denis Tyrell
um the button release or the top of like the thumb stud just do a little piece of mother pearl there or something you know just some cool stuff i don't know that i want like the whole scale and mother pro
00:56:30
Tre'
Yeah.
00:56:33
Tre'
Yeah. it's It's also terrifying. It's a it's ah that's an expensive oops.
00:56:37
Denis Tyrell
yeah it is like the little scale like you you know this big like one inch by two and a half inch was like 100 125 or something
00:56:37
Tre'
Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:47
Tre'
Is that what's the favorite thing? What's your favorite thing you picked up?
00:56:50
Denis Tyrell
Probably the ivory. that
00:56:52
Tre'
Diver. Yeah.
00:56:52
Denis Tyrell
That set of gray, like the the huge set of gray ivory bark, um I think is really cool. And it's it's it's really thick and the color goes right through it.
00:57:03
Denis Tyrell
It's almost like this was like stuck in the mud in the bottom of a marsh or something. Like, I don't know, but it's there's no white in it.
00:57:09
Tre'
ah yeah
00:57:11
Denis Tyrell
It's all gray. It's like a marbly gray.
00:57:13
Tre'
ah
00:57:14
Denis Tyrell
It's really weird looking. and
00:57:16
Tre'
that's a good set good set
00:57:17
Denis Tyrell
yeah it was really unique um so it looked good on a it's the color tones that I like the dark darker color tones so it'll it'll look good
00:57:23
Tre'
sure yeah
00:57:27
Tre'
yeah that'll pop with something big in damascusy
00:57:29
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah what was your yeah Parker tell us what you bought the show
00:57:31
Tre'
but partner yeah parker get anything
00:57:35
Parker
Bought a couple of knives. Missed out on the Microtech, the Bladeshow exclusive, so i ended up just going to some booth. i don't remember who it was. ended ended up just picking up an Ultratech there.
00:57:47
Parker
all Bought a couple other. Bought a knife from, i think it's Les Adams.
00:57:53
Denis Tyrell
Mm-hmm.
00:57:53
Parker
A little auto from him.
00:57:55
Tre'
nice
00:57:55
Parker
That was very nice. And just a couple of other like little folders just for like gifts for my family.
00:58:02
Tre'
ahs awesome
00:58:03
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Well, speaking of Les Adams, he just reminded me. I did another thing this year. i finally signed up for the Knife Makers Guild. And Les is actually the president of the Knifemakers Guild.
00:58:14
Denis Tyrell
um So, why yeah, figured out wouldn't hurt. Might as well get into something else, submit knives for for judging for different awards. So I got to go to Blade, Texas or Blade next year to get all that, get into like the voting status or whatever.
00:58:32
Tre'
yeah i was supposed to i was supposed to sign up for that for this show cause i was like oh this like five piece hoakki set would be a really really great set ah five to enter
00:58:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:58:40
Tre'
and the juding and just you know
00:58:46
Tre'
i'll do it next year so i'll do it next time next time i promise next time
00:58:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. yeah If I'm a voting member by then, give me a call and I'll sign it for you.
00:58:58
Tre'
alfredo alfredo is alfredo is pretty adamant about being ah one of the ones to sign for me so
00:59:05
Denis Tyrell
Yes. Yeah, i had Jason Frye sign and Kelly Vermeer-Vela and who else? don't remember who else. Oh, Kyle Daly.
00:59:15
Tre'
oh kind then's right ky k he got best chef and i last year yeah
00:59:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:59:19
Tre'
know
00:59:20
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. did um Do you watch the awards this year?
00:59:24
Tre'
ah did ah did
00:59:25
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:59:26
Tre'
yeah
00:59:26
Denis Tyrell
Gabe won Best Damascus?
00:59:29
Tre'
yeah which was so he was so deserving
00:59:31
Denis Tyrell
Yes, absolutely.
00:59:31
Tre'
i mean i' like i've been i've been looking at that piece ah just drooling posted it and i it was the definition of clean mosaic i mean there'
00:59:41
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:59:42
Tre'
there's no there was no discernible where the where the restaxs were the the feather it feathered out really nice the the layers were crisp and clean i mean it was it if he didn't win it i would have i would have been mad that would have been he was so deserving of it so
00:59:57
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. Did you hold that piece?
01:00:01
Tre'
i did i did i got i got i didn't get a lot of chance to look at it here but i i saw i got a lot of time to spend with him in knife show ah and austria yeah
01:00:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah.
01:00:09
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah. He had that piece in Austria?
01:00:10
Tre'
yeah i don't know if that piece was in austria but he and i talked a lot in austria and he was at the house he was at the house
01:00:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:00:18
Tre'
on fridays
01:00:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, he came yeah friend Thursday.
01:00:19
Tre'
ah thursday he was actually back out on sunday night too so
01:00:23
Denis Tyrell
You notice...
01:00:23
Tre'
he's great he's really good dude
01:00:25
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. um Yeah. i but no I don't remember so Friday, Saturday, Sunday. One of those days I held it for a while and yeah, looked at it it's crazy.
01:00:31
Tre'
yeah
01:00:33
Denis Tyrell
It's beautiful.
01:00:34
Tre'
it was it was
01:00:35
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:00:36
Tre'
it was exactly what best damascus should be it was exactly what best in
01:00:39
Denis Tyrell
Yes, I completely agree. I'm glad we stepped away from some of the classic patterns and you know we got into some of the more, I'll call them recent developments.
01:00:49
Tre'
but they're in yeah
01:00:52
Tre'
there there are things outside of turkish twist and lidder pattern so
01:00:55
Denis Tyrell
okay
01:00:57
Tre'
there is a world beyond turkish twist
01:00:59
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:01:00
Tre'
so
01:01:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
01:01:00
Tre'
yeah
01:01:02
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, it was great to see that that win. And it is it is such a clean, like the etching on it is perfect. Like I don't know how many times he etched that or it just went perfect.
01:01:09
Tre'
oh that that
01:01:12
Tre'
yeah
01:01:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it was really good.
01:01:15
Tre'
think he's just he's just got it down he's got that process he's he's just got that process down i mean he's he clearly puts in a lot of effort into his etc because it is it's perfect and ah it is absolutely perfect and it's just it's just
01:01:30
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I talked to him a bit about that. And I said, is he using Marek? Because you know he learned most of that stuff from Marekko,
Exploring Techniques and Achievements
01:01:37
Tre'
and
01:01:37
Denis Tyrell
hanging out with Marekko.
01:01:38
Denis Tyrell
And I said, are you using Marekko's coffee process? And he's like, no. He's not using coffee. He's not using Farrakh. And I'm like, okay, we got to talk because I want to know what it is.
01:01:51
Tre'
yeah
01:01:52
Denis Tyrell
So I'm going to reach out to him and say, hey.
01:01:52
Tre'
yeah
01:01:56
Tre'
yeah he's an interesting dude who just he he is he is doven he is all in he's all in and he is
01:01:56
Denis Tyrell
Give me...
01:02:01
Tre'
he is a master at it too so he's he is doing such a great job with it
01:02:04
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I can't.
01:02:05
Tre'
and great dude as well great dude and great brewer and great whiskey maker i'm like what the hell doesn't he do well so like i was like can you just do one thing bad gabe like come on
01:02:12
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:02:14
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah.
01:02:15
Tre'
he's good
01:02:16
Denis Tyrell
I mean, I can't think of a maker who's excelled like more and as fast as he has.
01:02:24
Tre'
yeah i mean i mean he is a yeah right i mean i don't know how long he's been making but i feel like i've i heard his name for the first time like two years ago
01:02:31
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I think it's been three years.
01:02:33
Tre'
yeah that that makes sense and just a master of his craft so
01:02:35
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:02:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I remember um Spencer, one buddies who's in Anchorage, had told me about his buddy Gabe, who owns Anchorage Forge, who had just started and like totally jumped in with both feet. And he bought like the, you know, the 110.
01:02:54
Denis Tyrell
No, no, no, no.
01:02:55
Tre'
he got winton and yang ya
01:02:57
Denis Tyrell
This is ah the the press thing.
01:02:58
Tre'
not anybody oh yeah yeah yeah that's right that's right that's right yeah
01:03:02
Denis Tyrell
yeah he's got the 110 ton press from coal and all this stuff that he's bought. And and I was like, damn.
01:03:10
Tre'
he's he's got a flooded three by seventy nine from tobin i think that's really like that
01:03:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:16
Tre'
i got to see that machine and i'll show it too and it's ah amazing grinder and it's not a cheap grinder but it's a great grinder
01:03:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:03:23
Tre'
um
01:03:23
Denis Tyrell
i That's another reason to go to bla ah to the Austrian knife show next year to see all the stuff that we don't see.
01:03:24
Tre'
but yeah he does good job
01:03:32
Tre'
it was so different it was completely different vibe completely completely different vibe it was it was it was amazing it's completely different but
01:03:39
Denis Tyrell
Like,
01:03:39
Parker
what's What's attendance usually like over there?
01:03:42
Tre'
um i think you know maybe this is like inside pool or whatever but i think that i don't know the exact that well i don't remember the exact numbers i've heard the exact numbers but i can tell you it was twice what they anticipated they didn they had two times as many as they anticipated by two o'clock on the first day they saw more people than they expected to see for the whole weekend um in terms of customers and i think the vendors were like eighty and then he's moving into a bigger space and he'll have one hundred and fifty makecrers or something like
01:04:19
Tre'
um and for my understanding the um the word has spread on that show and makers are reaching out left and right and sponsors and things like that so i mean martin you a lot of credit to martin for really really really you know a lot of credit to your choice this week of you know maker spotlights of the effort and just absolute sweat equity he put into making that a great show
01:04:41
Denis Tyrell
And I can't imagine, like, I've organized little things, but to organize something like that, like, it just sounds like a math medic, but um to do it so well for the, like, you know, this was out of the gate the first year and it just went off with bang.
01:04:56
Tre'
oh yeah yeah
01:04:58
Denis Tyrell
So kudos to him for making that happen.
01:04:58
Tre'
yeah
01:05:01
Tre'
oh for sure i mean i he he posted he was looking at a new space and i shot him a message and shot him a text and was just like do you want my money now or what why like do you want my like just tell me when you want my money because i'll be back without questions was great yeah
01:05:16
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I mean, between you and him and the other guys that I talked to, like, I think I'm sold going back next year.
01:05:16
Tre'
and fantastic
01:05:22
Denis Tyrell
And like, it's not even about going to the show. I just want to, you know, and of course, I want to see the show. You know what i mean? I want to be at the show and and exhibit at the show.
01:05:29
Tre'
ya
01:05:33
Denis Tyrell
But the area, the vacation around it sounds awesome as well.
01:05:33
Tre'
i yeah's like a yeah
01:05:37
Tre'
oh yeah the the little town that he's in is fantastic um there's so many makers there ah we were joking all weekend that gender reveals in austria is a blue power hammer or a pink power hammer because everyone you talk to over there has a power hammer um so it's it's actually
01:05:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I'm having power and hammer envy now.
01:05:55
Tre'
yeah oh yeah i' look i'm i' am on the power hammer train um i'm desperately shopping for a ah fifty five so trying to find one
01:06:08
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. um I thought you didn't forge that much.
01:06:12
Tre'
yeah but this is ah my next rabbit hole i think is creating steel i think that's the and it ah it hurts me to even say it but
01:06:20
Denis Tyrell
Nice.
01:06:22
Tre'
i think my next rabbit hole is creating steel cause i think that i think there's you know when finishing out homons the way that i do i think there's a um i think there's a lot more that can be done um and i think that you know with induction forges you know i know it's ah that's a four-letter word to the woots crowd and god forbid someone call that wo um which it's really not i i would agree but i think that there's a way to you know create shallow hardening steels that are
01:06:55
Tre'
probably a little more reactive than what is available kind of rack and so i'm goingnna rabbit hole and then you know a stainless woots thing and then or shigana i think is can be done in a and induction forging away so that's that's the next thing and then so i have a i have a fifty ton press and so a ah fifty five kilo power hammer the will fifty five and yang i think is i want you know now i got to find an anvil and now i'm i'm
01:07:23
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:07:24
Tre'
talking and hammers and i bought tongs and so it's it's coming but it's not fast um i'm the i'm i'm the peak of cheap and patient so i'll wait for it to find used and i'll jump on it
01:07:38
Denis Tyrell
you definitely have the location. Like you got the property and the land and the shop to do it.
01:07:41
Tre'
i got room yeah i got room yeah i got yeah i got room so
01:07:45
Denis Tyrell
Whereas like my neighbors are about like 35 feet away. So, uh, um, even using the press as loud.
01:07:50
Tre'
wow yeah
01:07:54
Denis Tyrell
Um, if I could have a power hammer, believe me, I would have had, I i probably would have a, like a two 50 or something by now.
01:08:02
Parker
Did have one for about two weeks and then you just had to get rid of it
01:08:02
Denis Tyrell
Um,
01:08:06
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, the first, my first power hammer was a tire hammer that i made having no concept of how loud it was going to be.
01:08:07
Parker
Way too low.
01:08:15
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, that didn't last long.
01:08:17
Tre'
yeah there's a one fifty five for sale
01:08:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:08:20
Tre'
about two hours from me and i am i just i can't even look at the ad anymore i won fifty five's too big yeah one fifty five once it's one seventy five hundred and seventy five pounds too big
01:08:31
Denis Tyrell
An An Yang?
01:08:33
Tre'
yeah it's a one seventy five a
01:08:33
Denis Tyrell
that's That's like this anvil is too big. What are you talking about?
01:08:38
Tre'
because i don't want to pour a footer i don't want to put i mean i think it's a six foot footer you got to put on
01:08:41
Denis Tyrell
oh
01:08:42
Tre'
and so then i'm getting kind of
01:08:43
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's true.
01:08:45
Tre'
yeah
01:08:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah.
01:08:46
Tre'
i don't and i don't think i need it i think you know you always buy i think i think my concession of buying a fifty five is actually stepping up to be more fifty five kilo ah stepping up to be more than what i need
01:08:59
Denis Tyrell
right So you're going to use it for forging knives or going to be using it for Damascus or you don't know yet.
01:09:05
Tre'
um yes probably yeah so i mean i'm really interested in you know these like forged sg grind and forged geometry that a lot of these chef knife makers are doing um but really i think it's it's coming from a perspective of like processing processing my own steel which you know doing anything with like boots or like a stainless damascus because
01:09:21
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
01:09:24
Tre'
stainless damascus from my brief conversation stainless woots for my brief brief conversation it melts easier but it's harder to move
01:09:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's like all standards.
01:09:33
Tre'
um yeah yeah melts easier but it's harder to move um and ah fifty ton press will can manipulate the inga um but like ah fifteen kilo ah power hammer will not move it well a twenty five will do it will do it pretty okay um i think josh prince has like a thirty but fifty five would kind of step up to really really need um the goal here is not to use it in any kind of production
01:10:04
Tre'
ah production means what i'm trying to do fifty at a time um
01:10:07
Denis Tyrell
Sure.
01:10:07
Tre'
yeah really kind of laser trying to laser focus as my mind works in batches like i i love batchwork so if i get something that's capable of doing you know giant factches the next thing you know i will be and just that's the next that's efficiency um' all about trying to find efficiency so
01:10:23
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. In fact, that um Koi Baker was here in February, and we made some stainless Damascus and I had tried attempted a few times before that and had
01:10:30
Tre'
audience
01:10:35
Denis Tyrell
marginal, very marginal success. But I think we dialed it in now. And even with Josh's speaking with Josh in last October at Maker Camp and, know, what he's changed on his process. I think we we lowered the foraging temp a little bit when we were forging um because the main problem is like the cracking in the of the 154. Yeah, yeah.
01:10:58
Tre'
yeah yeah yeah so
01:10:59
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah
01:11:00
Tre'
um um wonder if r wl would be any different then c p m one fifty four i don't know
01:11:06
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I don't know the properties of RWL much, but...
01:11:09
Tre'
well on paper it's the same as ah cp m one fifty four but um
01:11:16
Tre'
yeah i don't know i just i would wonder if it would be different hey i don't know this
01:11:19
Denis Tyrell
yeah But it, I mean, trying to forge it under like half an inch is like hitting a a solid piece of stone in the in the press.
01:11:20
Tre'
radical
01:11:31
Denis Tyrell
Like it just doesn't, like hitting a cold, like trying to press a cold piece of mild steel or something.
01:11:32
Tre'
yeah
01:11:37
Denis Tyrell
It doesn't move, but you get it really hot and then send it through the rolling mill and you can get some, yeah.
01:11:43
Tre'
oh nice how mean many ton is your press
01:11:47
Denis Tyrell
It's a 30 ton press.
01:11:49
Tre'
yeah i think john yeah josh said i think he has a fifty ton press and he can get them down to about a quarter of an inch and then he hits him on the hammer so
01:11:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. ah Rolling mill helps. Definitely helps because you don't have much contact area as long as it's hot. We did lock up the the rolling mill about three times, but I actually have to do that some of that tomorrow morning because of the stuff we made.
01:12:02
Tre'
oh shit
01:12:10
Denis Tyrell
I had it down to like 3 16ths, but now I'm going to be making some folders. So now I got to take it down to less than an 8th.
01:12:15
Tre'
oh you gotta keep going keep going yeah
01:12:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. But at least I'll get more material this way.
01:12:21
Tre'
yeah yeah yeah really cool
01:12:23
Denis Tyrell
yeah But I've got to get that video out in conjunction with his release of the production line, I think. I'm trying to do that for him.
01:12:29
Tre'
oh nice
01:12:30
Denis Tyrell
so
01:12:30
Tre'
ah it's nice nice thatll be good timing
01:12:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
Rising Stars and Notable Figures
01:12:33
Denis Tyrell
But speaking of hammers, want to talk about our last sponsor, which is um Frank Anita over at Two Bastards Texas Smithian Supplies.
01:12:43
Denis Tyrell
If you need a hammer, those are the guys to go and see. Frank is definitely one of the best dressed men at Blade Show. Got to see him and Anita super, super nice.
01:12:56
Denis Tyrell
um Yeah, he's he's he's i don't know. Do you know Frank? Have you ever met Frank?
01:13:01
Tre'
meet him i kind of looked around i didn't get to walk around as much as i hoped and he was one of the ones i was looking for and i didn't get a chance
01:13:05
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but he he is a great dude.
01:13:06
Tre'
catch him
01:13:08
Denis Tyrell
he He loves his stories, loves to talk. I'm surprised he makes it halfway around Blade Show, honestly. like he's He's a talker, which is great. I love talking to Frank.
01:13:19
Denis Tyrell
We saw him after, actually, after we left your place. We saw him at Neal's, which was great.
01:13:22
Tre'
oh nice nice
01:13:23
Denis Tyrell
So, um yeah, but you need a hammer, definitely check out Frank and go get yourself fat peen, straight peen, a curvy peen, whatever it is, because I'll do this for Jared. Ain't it grand to have a fat peen in your hand?
01:13:39
Denis Tyrell
I'm
01:13:42
Tre'
ah
01:13:43
Denis Tyrell
trying to make you proud, Jared.
01:13:43
Tre'
amazing amazing
01:13:46
Denis Tyrell
All right. Hey, why don't we move on to Maker Spotlight and we'll wrap this up.
01:13:52
Tre'
nice
01:13:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, ah let's start with Parker. haven't heard from him. Parker, who you got this week?
01:13:57
Parker
my My maker spotlight is going to go to Elijah White at Working Hand Forge, who is a fellow 19-year-old bladesmith. Not fellow, I don't make knives myself, but he's got some great stuff.
01:14:08
Denis Tyrell
ah You made a few.
01:14:11
Parker
So go ahead and check him out.
01:14:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's working underscore hand underscore forge. You know, I met Elijah. We, Parker and I both met Elijah. What was this, like three years ago at Blade Show, Texas?
01:14:24
Parker
oh Yeah, I believe it was Texas. He had a good conversation with them.
01:14:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, man, I think his father. So he was 16 at the time and cranking out knives. And you look at his knives now and just beautiful knives, beautiful sheaths, just a kick-ass maker. And every time I see him, I'm like, Parker, you see, you could be making knives like this and selling them.
01:14:48
Denis Tyrell
I finally convinced him Parker's gonna be coming over this week and making a knife.
01:14:48
Parker
Exactly.
01:14:52
Denis Tyrell
So we're getting started.
01:14:53
Tre'
yeah get it yeah gotta get on that press man get on that press it'd be fun
01:14:56
Parker
Big things in store.
01:14:58
Denis Tyrell
That's right. So go check out Elijah White. Really, he's gonna be one to watch over the next couple of years for sure.
01:15:08
Denis Tyrell
All right, Trey, who do you have?
01:15:11
Tre'
ah this ah i've got ah francesco pekinan i don't know i don't really know his the last name is p i c c i n i n um italian makers been making for about two years maybe three years now um he won best fighter from the knifemakerr's guild this year with his beautiful beautiful fighter
01:15:29
Denis Tyrell
Beautiful.
01:15:30
Tre'
i mean it's wild he's got this like little turkish twist ah hunter that he did it's a takedown northern hunter that he made i even like one of the knives that i was excited to buy at blade show was one of his knives and it's this little like a little red penni that he had on his table um out of stainless damascus super super talented maker that has really escalated faster than i think ah makes me jealous every every time i look at his knives it make me mad
01:16:01
Tre'
um because they're just that good butre just that good and also
01:16:04
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:16:06
Tre'
humble maker great dude um he's just a overall great guy too so just check him out
01:16:12
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I'm looking at the one he's got pinned, the one from, when it it was from from yeah, from the Green Handle one from from Texas.
01:16:16
Tre'
the blue one
01:16:21
Denis Tyrell
but read i did The steel is reminiscent of what Kelly's doing.
01:16:21
Tre'
yes
01:16:24
Denis Tyrell
It's it's a little bit like her riptide pattern, but just beautiful. Just beautiful lines.
01:16:30
Tre'
oh yeah
01:16:31
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah.
01:16:34
Tre'
the construction the polish the etc the i mean he he takes it
01:16:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:16:38
Tre'
like like a lot of the italians he takes ah he takes things very seriously so yeah
01:16:43
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, the sheath work is incredible.
01:16:44
Tre'
he drove in and yeah i mean he he dove right in and he's doing great with it he does a good job
01:16:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah, really nice. Really nice. Good choice, good choice. And I wasn't following him, but now I am.
01:16:59
Tre'
nice
01:16:59
Denis Tyrell
and true Treviso, where's Treviso?
01:17:04
Tre'
it's he's northern italy somewhere he's near alfredo so he came over to alfredo's house when we did when i did my
01:17:07
Denis Tyrell
Okay. Okay.
01:17:10
Tre'
i italian tour
01:17:13
Denis Tyrell
see See, I'm going to southern Italy in the fall, and now I think next year maybe we're going northern Italy. Don't tell my wife I'm planning this around knife makers.
01:17:23
Tre'
so okay to yeah but you're still in italy so it's not like you're going to
01:17:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, exactly, right?
01:17:27
Tre'
you know
01:17:28
Denis Tyrell
It doesn't matter.
01:17:29
Tre'
you know yeahre not going to murphysborough tennessee like youre but you're going to italy
01:17:32
Denis Tyrell
but
01:17:34
Tre'
like
01:17:36
Denis Tyrell
Sure, we lost all our our listeners from, what, Murfreesboro, Tennessee, wherever you just said?
01:17:40
Tre'
yeah that's ah sorry about those three so
01:17:46
Denis Tyrell
Oh, speaking of losing or gaining listeners, um another thing of Bladeshow that we still have not figured out. So two things. The first one I knew about where look we've been bugging Jared. Jared's been bugging himself or needling himself about the Cotopaxi vest.
01:18:05
Denis Tyrell
You know, the rainbow Cotopaxi vest that he's been wearing. Well, um Lawrence had stickers made of a Cotopaxi vest. And we had some on the table and I had one on my um on my lanyard or whatever.
01:18:22
Denis Tyrell
And Jared couldn't figure out where they were coming from. So that was funny. But there's another one. So we came in, ah it was Friday, some some point Friday, whether it was Friday morning or something like that. We got to the table and Jared had made, this like so I made the the hats and the shirts for the podcast for us to wear.
01:18:41
Denis Tyrell
And Jared's responsibility was to make the podcast stickers. So I didn't think anything of it Friday, I see stickers. One is this logo, like our our normal logo. And another one that said, I'm the fifth listener um the to to to Triple T podcast.
01:18:59
Denis Tyrell
And I thought, oh that's really good.
01:18:59
Tre'
oh my god what a great slicker
01:19:01
Denis Tyrell
jar Jared was really inventive. And Jared says, I told you I was making stickers. I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, why did you bring that sticker? I'm like, I didn't bring that sticker. We have no, even when it was, it's not like someone dropped off five. There was a stack of like 50.
01:19:16
Denis Tyrell
So someone had made those stickers and left them on.
01:19:16
Tre'
no
01:19:19
Denis Tyrell
So we still don't know who it was.
01:19:21
Parker
he He got in there while no one was at the table as well, which was not...
01:19:22
Tre'
i have no idea
01:19:24
Denis Tyrell
I think it was early Friday is what it was.
01:19:27
Parker
Yeah.
01:19:28
Tre'
yeah
01:19:28
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah.
01:19:29
Tre'
but now i'm mad that i didn't get ah i'm the fifth listener to stickr so
01:19:31
Denis Tyrell
Right? So why whoever you are, you better own up to it so that we can both thank you and, you know, I was going to say make fun of you, but there's nothing to make fun of. I mean, that was such a great idea.
01:19:43
Denis Tyrell
why did we and Why didn't we think of something more invented than just our regular logo?
01:19:44
Tre'
but if next
01:19:47
Tre'
there
01:19:51
Denis Tyrell
Man.
01:19:51
Tre'
what if next year you get i'm the sixth to listener on'm the seventh listener like i
01:19:55
Denis Tyrell
Right, yeah.
01:19:55
Tre'
and just keeps rolling
01:19:56
Denis Tyrell
Getting them one at a time. Yeah. Except don't tell our sponsors that. You know, they don't need to know that.
01:20:03
Tre'
seven hundredth listen near so like
01:20:04
Denis Tyrell
Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure we're over a thousand weekly, so we're doing okay.
01:20:09
Tre'
oh nice man it's nice i mean i listen every week it's great
01:20:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Oh, well, thank you. um I think that's the show, guys. I mean, Trey, it's been great having you on um Give everybody your socials, where they can find you, all that stuff. It'll be in the show notes as well, but make do some shameless promotion.
01:20:30
Tre'
it is ah it is third hill customs anywhere and everywhere so three r d h i l l and customs ah and any customers looking out there i don't like doing customs so thank
01:20:42
Denis Tyrell
You and me both.
01:20:44
Tre'
yeah yeah a customs bo out down but the ah no third hill customs on everything facebook which i'm not active on
01:20:45
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:20:50
Tre'
hardly at all but instagram you know redit kitchen eye forums the that's that's where i'm at that's where i met everywhere
01:20:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And, you know, it it took me a while, probably, i won't say a year, but the better portion when I first met you to clue in the name The third hill customs with your name, Trey Hill, third hill.
01:21:13
Tre'
yeah
01:21:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I'm not that i'm not that quick on the uptake.
01:21:17
Tre'
but it gets even worse because i live on hill road which is an absolute coincidence so
01:21:22
Denis Tyrell
You should just tell people you're you're you know your great-great-grandfather owned that entire, you know.
01:21:28
Tre'
this my my this is my paies land
01:21:35
Denis Tyrell
ah Parker, where can everyone find you?
01:21:38
Parker
i don't I don't really do media, so nowhere, unfortunately.
01:21:41
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah, that was...
01:21:42
Parker
But maybe maybe when I start building my name out here, making these knives.
01:21:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I was telling Parker that he should name himself, we we should call him Baby Shark Knives since my logo is a shark.
01:21:54
Tre'
um do ah do do customs baby sha do do do do customs do do customs is really really great and so our do do nice
01:21:58
Denis Tyrell
but
01:21:58
Parker
That's...
01:22:03
Tre'
it' fantastic don't use
01:22:04
Parker
we were were uh we were we were talking about that yesterday and i said it'd be funny if i had a knife model called the dude dude
01:22:05
Tre'
everyone ask guys i'm saying and don't do it and
01:22:14
Tre'
do do do folders do do folders it's really great
01:22:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, one model called the Doot Doot.
01:22:21
Tre'
get into the bal songs man start doing ball songs
01:22:21
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:22:24
Tre'
and's a
01:22:24
Parker
yeah i've you have no idea how long i've been trying to get my dad to start doing battle songs man
01:22:29
Tre'
do you have do you have bowel songs do you use them
01:22:31
Parker
Yeah, I do have Bella's songs.
Balisong Community Recognition
01:22:33
Parker
I've been flipping since I was like 12 years old.
01:22:33
Tre'
amazing and i'm telling you there's ah there's something to it i think blade show needs to acknowledge i think blade show needs to official my only critique of blade show is blade show needs to officially acknowledge the the ballas on kids i think it's good for the community they they have
01:22:47
Denis Tyrell
Well, they do make up a pretty, is as much as we, you know, the older guys, you know, we're making fun of them or, you know, we were annoyed that they're at the show.
01:22:48
Tre'
stop
01:22:56
Denis Tyrell
They pay money to be at the show. They're a large contingent of the show and they, they pay a lot of money.
01:23:00
Tre'
so yeah
01:23:02
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, they need, they, they need a category too.
01:23:06
Parker
And all the ballast song makers too.
01:23:06
Tre'
did you look
01:23:07
Parker
like It's a huge portion of the show.
01:23:11
Tre'
yeah look i mean look at the look at the camera setups those kids were walking around i say kids like um yeah i don't mean that in a derogatory way but like
01:23:16
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:23:19
Tre'
just they
01:23:19
Parker
yeah but
01:23:20
Tre'
that's what it is i mean they're look at the cameras like
01:23:21
Parker
There's kids walking around with $3,000
01:23:24
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:23:25
Tre'
yeah one of them had a red camera
01:23:25
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:23:27
Tre'
like a yeah know there was a red camera and following around one of these kids filming flipping upstairs they blade show has to acknowledge um you have to acknowledge and that's the ah it's unfair they may be weird we may not understand it but that's not for me you know
01:23:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:23:44
Tre'
not for me to past judgment like
01:23:45
Denis Tyrell
Well, it it is the only, we can talk about folders and all this stuff, but it's the only,
01:23:46
Tre'
and we good
01:23:53
Denis Tyrell
It's the only knife that actually takes skill to use. you know Like all the others, it's like, yeah, you just open whatever.
01:23:57
Tre'
oh yeah
01:24:01
Denis Tyrell
There's some skill there as opposed to just pressing the button and opening it or flicking it open with your thumb for the thumb step. So something to be said for that.
01:24:07
Tre'
ah although all the kitchen knife makers are ah all the kitchen knife makers are buying ballas songs and we're having a kit next year at blade show we're having the first annual kitchen knife balllet song flip off ah like ah we're going to do it so
01:24:25
Denis Tyrell
And then we should have all the Balassan guys, like, cut up onions or something and see who who can...
01:24:29
Tre'
they should but yeah well no they should they should what they really should do is stand in the crowd and laugh at us that's that's what i want i want them to stand around and make fun of us and laugh at us for how bad we are at this yeah and jen and i like i like the crowd i think it's i think it's a good crowd
01:24:42
Denis Tyrell
That would be a funny gag. Like, that's...
01:24:46
Tre'
yeah
01:24:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. it would It would be good to see some more, you know... life humor get injected into blade show and you know it's not the stuffy old man club kind of thing yeah i agree abs as well
01:25:01
Tre'
blade show needs to grow
01:25:01
Parker
It's nice to have some young Blood and Blade show.
01:25:04
Tre'
you have to and ah module yeah the whole thing guides if you don't have new people getting in so it's great place to leave it
01:25:13
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah yeah Well, with that, I think that's a great show. Trey, thanks so much for for joining me. And Parker, we should have you on more often.
01:25:27
Tre'
this is great man
01:25:27
Parker
I'd love to.
01:25:28
Tre'
good to see you guys again
01:25:28
Denis Tyrell
All right. Thanks, guys.
01:25:33
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:25:34
Parker
Hope everyone had a good year at the show.
01:25:40
Tre'
this music's jam and ah love your logo i love your outuch intro and outtro music
01:25:46
Denis Tyrell
like what
01:25:49
Denis Tyrell
And that's a wrap.