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Transcript

Introductions and Humorous Banter

00:00:16
Denis Tyrell
In a world plagued by boredom, there's only the Triple T Podcast for Knife Makers. And I'm your host, Dennis Terrell of Terrell Knifeworks.
00:00:27
Denis Tyrell
And here I've got Jared Sandoval of the one and only Echo Blades. Jared, you're back after partying on a school night.
00:00:37
echo_blades
I am. i just I was just told that i'm I look tired and then yelled at because I gave the answer. said, I am, mother... I had a crazy weekend and I'm here and now I got to deal with that.
00:00:50
echo_blades
I will say, though, I am i support the the the intro tactics. I love it.
00:00:59
Denis Tyrell
Good, good. I'm just trying to be you.
00:01:01
echo_blades
and In a world... where Dennis Terrell tries to copy Jared from Michael Blades.
00:01:11
echo_blades
How are you, man?

Weekend Recap and Anniversary Celebrations

00:01:13
Denis Tyrell
I'm good. I'm good. I'm ah recovering from working all weekend in a class, but a fun class.
00:01:21
echo_blades
In a class.
00:01:26
Denis Tyrell
ah But, yeah, it's been fun. I had Parker in the shop today. um I'll go over all the fun I had with him.
00:01:33
echo_blades
Nice.
00:01:33
Denis Tyrell
It's been really cool having him in the shop. And you saw the Instagram posts of him making his chef knife last week.
00:01:39
echo_blades
I did. I did.
00:01:41
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that was, yeah, yeah.
00:01:41
echo_blades
Excited to hear about it.
00:01:44
Denis Tyrell
But i want first, I want to hear about your anniversary and all of the shenanigans over the weekend.
00:01:50
echo_blades
Yeah, man, I had a roller coaster of a weekend. It was pretty cool. um Yeah, my wife and I celebrated our 23rd wedding anniversary on Sunday, but there's... ah
00:02:08
Denis Tyrell
Oh, and I got to say, 23 years. Bless that woman's heart for putting up you with it.
00:02:13
echo_blades
So, so my buddy, I don't know if he'll, I know if he's listening not, but it is shout out to, to, to you, my friend. He said, i told him we're texting this weekend or something like And he goes, make sure you tell Lynn or shout out to her exemplary patience and low standards commitment to my buddy, Dave.
00:02:36
Denis Tyrell
who who said that
00:02:39
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:02:39
Denis Tyrell
Oh, commitment to low standards.
00:02:43
echo_blades
Yeah. Exemplary, exemplary, the display of patience and commitment to low standards. So I agree. She's, she's, she's a saint for that, but yeah, 23 years, man.
00:02:56
echo_blades
I will say this. I don't want to make a huge deal about it, but you know, there's a, there's a handful of things that I'm extremely proud of. And, and you know, in, in a today we don't see, i don't see,
00:03:11
echo_blades
Many people um get to experience, you know, longevity in marriages. And i'm I'm very proud to say that we've, you know, stuck it out as long as we have. And, you know, we're still still still going. So definitely not the, you know, ah it's more than.
00:03:30
echo_blades
it's a long time. So it takes a lot of work and, and, and, uh, compromise on both sides.
00:03:32
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:03:36
echo_blades
And I'm extremely, extremely lucky and blessed to, to be able to celebrate such a huge day. And, uh, yeah.
00:03:43
Denis Tyrell
that is a long time 23 years yeah
00:03:46
echo_blades
Yeah. It's crazy. And I've only been clean 18. So put that math together. There was some dark times,
00:03:51
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:03:55
echo_blades
but yeah, so we've, uh, we got to do that.

Family, Music, and Travel Adventures

00:03:58
echo_blades
That was Sunday. um but we had, I had a weird situation come up. So i we always celebrate our anniversary and do something.
00:04:09
echo_blades
And, uh, but this day my son started playing the guitar. um I've played the guitar for forever. practiced, you know, I'm not good by any means, but, um, and my son wanted to play and my daughter, you know, we're, we're we're a musical family. So, um, but my dad's a ah really good musician and unfortunately he's a shitty teacher.
00:04:33
echo_blades
So, um, I never, i learned on my own. Um, and I, i don't know how to, to, to, to like teach other than like try to show what what I'm doing and everything. So it always ends up in a, in a bad deal. Right. So I feel bad for him So I showed him a couple of things when he started, you know, he's basically inherited all my guitar shit.
00:04:54
echo_blades
And, um, but the the kid stuck with it for, for about a year now and he's gotten really, really good. And, uh, it's just been a pleasure to watch him, you know, take interest and and stick with something.
00:05:05
echo_blades
And, uh, the, the coolest part to me is that he's, he's starting to like, you know, different types of music. And that's one of the, one of things don't know. How do you, yeah. and That's one of the things I love about me, Dennis is, uh, I don't really have boundaries in music. My, my playlist are,
00:05:22
echo_blades
are nothing short of bipolar. Right. I mean, it, it, I'm all over the place. And, um, he, uh, started listening to, to heavy metal and somehow got into Pantera.
00:05:34
echo_blades
And that is not just something you stumble on, you know, as a 16 year old kid, if you're just kind of branching out. But so he started ah wanting to play Dimebag Daryl stuff. and And it's been cool to to watch. So I was just cruising through the Internet one day and um saw that Metallica was coming to town and they were doing a two show.
00:05:58
echo_blades
um the The tour is two shows and they have different openers. on each night. So this weekend was Friday night with Limp Bizkit. And then Sunday was Pantera, but that was on our anniversary.
00:06:11
echo_blades
So I had talk to Mrs. Echo and say, you know, if there's one person, she'd give me a pass to, to, you know, kind of skip out on the anniversary. It's our son. So this was a couple months of planning, but we did put together a quick trip to we normally do Monterey. That's like our spot.
00:06:30
echo_blades
but it was on, on fire basically. So, um, we,
00:06:33
Denis Tyrell
i hadn't You mentioned that. I hadn't heard that Monterey was on fire.
00:06:37
echo_blades
yeah, I, I, I didn't either. She, she had told me and then showed me some pictures. And so I don't know, we've been there during some fire seasons and it's, it's a bummer, right? It's super June gloom is a, is a thing on its own.
00:06:50
echo_blades
And, you know, you get smoke cloud and all that crap like that. So, um we decided to try something different. And we went out Morro Bay, which is like a central coast, kind like in the middle, in between SoCal and here.
00:07:04
echo_blades
And my family always from, they live in the Central Valley and Morro Bay is like their Monterey. It's like two hours from them. And it's like four hours for us. So i know I've never been there.
00:07:18
echo_blades
And ah so we we took a shot and
00:07:20
Denis Tyrell
That's further than san Luis Obispo, right?
00:07:24
echo_blades
Not by much. All that's like, you yeah, it's almost it's like you start you split and, you know, vine out in different directions to get, you know, same distance in time.
00:07:26
Denis Tyrell
Okay, sure it's almost the same.
00:07:33
echo_blades
It's about four hours. um We ended up going to San Luis Obispo, too. So um but yeah, shout out to to Mr. uh, Terrell knife works for letting me stash my car.
00:07:45
echo_blades
That was a huge, huge bonus. Cause we had a four hour drive from, from Livermore and I just drove from my work, dropped my car off. Wife met me there and we took off and, um, big help.
00:07:57
echo_blades
Appreciate it, man.
00:07:58
Denis Tyrell
uh no big deal
00:07:59
echo_blades
Yeah. And then, uh, yeah, so we, we shot out there and then we got a buddy that lives in that area, uh, cross bean forge Brent. And, uh,
00:08:10
echo_blades
we were i was coming through and I took a picture of ah the city that he lives in. And I just, I couldn't, I couldn't make it work. We were on a long drive already. It was Friday evening and but he was like, come through, I'm in the shop right now. I was, I was bummed. I didn't get to make it, you know, to, to stop by. And, uh, and it was a quick trip. We were just there, uh, Friday night, Saturday, and I came back home Sunday.

Exploring Historical Sites and Unique Hotels

00:08:32
echo_blades
Um, so, but yeah, that was cool, man. It was, it was good. Um, I don't want to to offend anybody, but it was a, uh, a different vibe. And I think more of it had to do with, uh,
00:08:45
echo_blades
it being ah closer proximity to SoCal. So there's a, if for all you people that don't know, there's like a big thing between NorCal and SoCal.
00:08:56
echo_blades
We're just like entirely different animals. And I wasn't prepared for all of the SoCal vibes that I got. You know, there was Dodgers on the, and I don't like the San Francisco Giants.
00:09:08
echo_blades
like that's my least favorite team of any professional sports. And so I actually will support the Dodgers because I don't like them that much, which is hard because as an A's fan, there's some history there too.
00:09:22
echo_blades
ah But at any rate, I still it was like, Ooh, and then the angels and it was just, it was weird, man. And I was feeling out. ah I wasn't feeling home like I do and in, in, in around here.
00:09:33
echo_blades
And, uh, but it it was, it was a different vibe, not, not Monterey by not, not comparable, other than the beach. Um, uh, Cambria is a nice little town though. don't know if you've ever been out that way.
00:09:46
Denis Tyrell
I've heard that it's nice, but I've never been there.
00:09:48
echo_blades
Yeah, that was a, you know, you just take about a 30 minute drive either direction and you get a lot of small little coastal but beach towns. And we did and a nice long walk and in Cambria and ended up at, uh,
00:09:59
echo_blades
in San Simeon and shot over to Hearst Castle, which, um, that, uh, what's his name? will we will Randolph Willie Randolph Hearst?
00:10:09
Denis Tyrell
I just know it's Randolph Hearst. I don't know if it's a...
00:10:11
echo_blades
Yeah. I think his name first name as well. I can't, I can't remember. Anyways.
00:10:13
Denis Tyrell
Didn't he own one of the newspapers or something?
00:10:15
echo_blades
Yeah. He was a media, a media tycoon dude in the twenties.
00:10:16
Denis Tyrell
Was it? In the Yes.
00:10:19
Denis Tyrell
in the twenty s
00:10:20
echo_blades
Yeah, exactly. And, uh, just rich beyond, you know, just the pure definition of fuck you money. Like just absolute, this was his, he built a small vacation house on top of a hill in the San Simeon, the city of San Simeon when nothing was there and basically turned it into like a booming fricking port just to like supply the shit for his house.
00:10:28
Denis Tyrell
yes
00:10:47
echo_blades
Um, 50,000,
00:10:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I've been there. It is yeah ah be opulence.
00:10:50
echo_blades
fifty Yeah, a small vacation home. It was like 53,000 square feet was the main is the main house.
00:10:57
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:10:57
echo_blades
it's It's gargantuan and just full.
00:10:59
Denis Tyrell
There's multiple multiple tours.
00:11:01
echo_blades
Good.
00:11:03
Denis Tyrell
like You can't see the whole thing in one tour. There's like three different tours to see the the house, which they call a castle.
00:11:05
echo_blades
Correct.
00:11:08
echo_blades
Yep. Yeah. The castle, yeah. So you had the main floor, which was basically like, because he used to host the who's who of you know of the times there, politicians, movie stars and all that shit.
00:11:20
echo_blades
So we kind of go in there and you go to like there the, the main room and then you go to the dinner and then the billiards room. And then they ended up with this theater.
00:11:27
Denis Tyrell
He was the California great Gatsby.
00:11:30
echo_blades
Basically. Yeah. Lynn said that several times. It was exactly that. um Just, but it's like a, an art museum. I guess that's how, what happened was the, the family donated it to the state of California because of all the art. And it was probably easier for cheaper.
00:11:43
echo_blades
I would imagine for the the state to take over and like procure it as a museum. Yeah. He was in the twenties. I guess you could buy Egyptian artifacts.
00:11:54
echo_blades
Like there was no, uh, laws.
00:11:56
Denis Tyrell
and
00:11:57
echo_blades
Like you can't do that shit now. Right.
00:11:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:12:00
echo_blades
So he basically had like the sphinx on his front lawn and just Persian rugs and tapestries and like just all this incredible stuff. So that was pretty cool, man.
00:12:11
echo_blades
And I always wanted to go there. But for us, it's like it's yeah it's like a destination. You got to go go do it or you have to be in the area like we were and because it's like two hours from Monterey, two hours for the tour, two hours back.
00:12:19
Denis Tyrell
Right.
00:12:24
echo_blades
That's yeah yeah so that's a day. um So I never I never did it. So snuck that thing in. That was really cool. um And then we went to a place called the Madonna Inn in San Luis Obispo.
00:12:37
echo_blades
And this this guy had a... It's like a rancher dude, but he partnered up with John Wayne and they made this hotel. It is the most gaudy... I mean, it
00:12:49
Denis Tyrell
it's
00:12:50
echo_blades
the
00:12:50
Denis Tyrell
John Wayne designing a hotel is funny its own.
00:12:50
echo_blades
it is And it's all pink too. So it doesn't, you know, Hey partner, it doesn't, it doesn't fit, but I guess he had ah some stake in it, but I guess their, their big thing is they have all kinds of like themed rooms. Like they have like a caveman room, a golfer, like a princess room, one of those fucking heart beds that spin in the middle of the room and like mirrors everywhere and like all kinds of different themes. And, and then they have these bathrooms.
00:13:18
echo_blades
So long story short, you go into the I went into the bathroom and I saw a guy standing in this like area. YouTube it, guys. Madonna in bathroom.
00:13:30
echo_blades
And this guy was like standing in this like open area. And I literally thought he was like cleaning the place. And so I went around and used the the regular pisser. And as I'm doing my business, I hear this...
00:13:42
echo_blades
a And I'm like, what the hell's going on? So I, I, I finished up and I ah go around the corner and this dude's pissing into this waterfall. It's like a piss sensor goes off and a waterfall just starts coming down.
00:13:56
echo_blades
and you're like, yeah, basically dude, it was the most amazing thing ever.
00:13:56
Denis Tyrell
The Willy Wonka of bathrooms. Yeah.
00:14:01
echo_blades
And I'm like, you know, and I don't know how, how, ah you know, oh it's just kind of crazy ah to to think about me standing there watching this waterfall while there's this guy pissing into it and I'm just like huh just kind it was a little awkward then I go wash my hands into this like clamshell like sink and stuff it was just weird man and then we had dinner at this steakhouse that's supposed to be good it was meh at the best dude it was I will never go back it's just kind of you know just do it to do it and move on but
00:14:34
echo_blades
probably would add a way nicer, uh, dinner there and monitor, uh, Murrow Bay or something like that.

Metallica Concert Experience

00:14:40
echo_blades
But yeah, that was cool.
00:14:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:14:42
echo_blades
Um, but then I had to drive back four hours on Sunday morning, pick up the car and then chill out for a couple hours.
00:14:46
Denis Tyrell
Mm-hmm.
00:14:51
echo_blades
And then basically drive, you know, an hour and a half back to Santa Clara to, to do the concert, which was fantastic, dude. That was just an amazing thing. Like I was just saying about, you know, getting to experience that with my son, I've never seen Metallica.
00:15:04
echo_blades
Um, and, or any of those bands and they had a suicidal tendencies opened, which is, uh, not my, not my thing. Like, uh, I, you know, I know some,
00:15:15
Denis Tyrell
I couldn't say that i know any of their songs.
00:15:17
echo_blades
Yeah. They're just a like little punk band from, from SoCal, I think, but they're, uh, it was good. mean, I definitely wrote this, this show was just a big nod to the, to the old timers.
00:15:28
echo_blades
These old dudes were just, were getting busy and still putting in work. Like the, the dude, I think his name is Mike mirror from suicidal tendencies was fucking all over the place. Like, and he's gotta be 60.
00:15:39
echo_blades
Like, I think, I don't think every, I think everybody was there in their late fifties or sixties. And, uh, but, uh, That was cool. um And then Pantera ah put on a great show. And then just getting to see my son.
00:15:52
echo_blades
This is crazy, though. The kids are not like us. They're entirely different. Like, I don't know if it's just like, like the, I think it's the phone one.
00:15:59
Denis Tyrell
How so?
00:16:03
echo_blades
So they, they occupy themselves differently. um i don't know. He's 16. um And this was his first like big concert. Right. And, and being that he's, you know, yeah he's been, I've been clean his entire life. Right. So he's not grown up, grown up around people drinking or partying or doing stuff like that. So to see all the people there was like, dude,
00:16:25
echo_blades
I swear to God, this guy had like a, at least an 18 inch like spliff and they were just fucking puffing away like four rows in front of us. And, you know, they were getting the the clouds coming at us from all over the place and beers were going on. And, you know, I had a small little talk with him. I'm like, you know, this is, this is normal, normal stuff here, dude. You know, like just keep your head on a swivel and just, just watch by the end of the night, you know,
00:16:51
echo_blades
people start, you know, swaying, swaying, leaning in this way and getting louder. And, um, but he did good, but they don't, no, no, no, no.
00:16:58
Denis Tyrell
But you weren't on the floor, right? Where where were your seats?
00:17:01
echo_blades
Here, I got, I got, I got a hot take on that situation. No, I was on the second deck in the seat and I am by far, that is my spot and for the rest of my life.
00:17:14
echo_blades
That is how I'm going to go see concerts. I just I do not have the the energy desire to go down.
00:17:18
Denis Tyrell
no
00:17:20
echo_blades
There's a couple bands that I i might, Deftones, I would probably need to be down there. but But yeah, I like to stand up, rock out for a minute, then realize I'm i'm old, sit down for a minute, then and then get back up and do it again when something, good song comes on.
00:17:37
echo_blades
But my son, he was there he just, that's why I'm saying they're different.
00:17:37
Denis Tyrell
um
00:17:40
echo_blades
like I had to like tap him to get up and try just do it. you know try to just do
00:17:45
Denis Tyrell
I'm all about sitting down at a concert. I'm not.
00:17:48
echo_blades
um I can't, i mean, if it's something I'm into, I'm up dude.
00:17:48
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:17:51
echo_blades
And, you know, and, and, and, and metal, however you want to say it, man, it, it, it gets me up. So I, but again, I, I recognize that I'm, I'm a second deck guy from now on and I'm loud and proud.
00:18:05
Denis Tyrell
You're at that age.
00:18:07
echo_blades
I'm loud and proud there guys. um
00:18:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I got to that age a while ago. i am definitely not a floor person.
00:18:14
echo_blades
Yeah. And I need earplugs. That was the other thing. And I forgot mine.
00:18:16
Denis Tyrell
Oh, you're definitely old.
00:18:18
echo_blades
I forgot mine. And thankfully this nice lady next to us had, had an extra pair. um And I got to save my earring for, for most of the part, but, and then Metallica came on and they just, they just killed it.
00:18:32
echo_blades
So my buddy randomly, I had this, a friend of mine um was going to try to go to the show. Like the night before, which I bought these tickets like three months ago.
00:18:43
echo_blades
Cause I figured that it would sell out, but there was anything, but so it was like an A's game. So many open seats. It was like, yeah, it was.
00:18:49
Denis Tyrell
Really?
00:18:51
echo_blades
But I mean, it got, it filled out towards the the end of the evening, but if to try to, to sell out, you know, Levi's it, yeah, it's a big stadium.
00:19:00
Denis Tyrell
That's big city.
00:19:02
echo_blades
So, but there was a lot and the tickets were substantially cheaper that night. I think he paid like a hundred bucks less than I did buying them the night before. But he, anyways, the whole stadium, my buddies eight seats to my left.
00:19:15
Denis Tyrell
Wow.
00:19:16
echo_blades
In the same row. So that was that was kind of a trip. um But he said he'd seen Metallica like, don't know, six, seven times. And they sounded the best. Like the mix was was really good. And he's normally it's like heavy bass and drums. And you can't hear the singing or the guitars. and But they put on a great show. And I was, yeah, it was a great time. I just, spending the night, you know, hanging out with my son, experiencing, listening, to hearing, seeing Metallica for the first time with him. Like it was just a,
00:19:44
echo_blades
It was a cool, cool, cool evening. um Lynn's not into that at all. So like, yeah, every now and again, i'm like, ah, we could, we should have brought, nah, she would have, she would have hated every minute of it. So, but ah we had a good time and yeah, I, ah it was a, didn't get home till like 1230 and had to go to work today. So I'm dragging a little ass, but you know, c'est la vie.
00:20:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Well, that's what you get for partying on a school night.
00:20:11
echo_blades
It's good time though.
00:20:14
echo_blades
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a good time.
00:20:16
Denis Tyrell
Well, sounds like you had a good time. That's good. I do like that part California. only been there once or twice, but I thought it was pretty cool.
00:20:23
echo_blades
Yeah, no, I we we we didn't get to do remotely all of it. So we'll we'll probably go back, break it up a little bit. So it's good time, though.
00:20:31
Denis Tyrell
Nice.
00:20:32
echo_blades
It's always just good to get away with with mama and just enjoy some QT and, you know, just hang out and do our thing.
00:20:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Actually, one of my students, Spencer, um that was here this past weekend, he went to the Friday night Metallica show.
00:20:47
echo_blades
Yeah, that's right.
00:20:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:20:48
echo_blades
Yeah, we had a chat about that.
00:20:48
Denis Tyrell
And yeah, he he loved it. He knew the whole set list and yeah.
00:20:53
echo_blades
I know. Oh, speaking of that, I think my set list was perfect.
00:20:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:20:59
echo_blades
Like, yeah, I mean, we I did miss the handful of songs that they didn't play, but, you know, they have a catalog that's that big. You know, you're going to you're not going to hear everything you want to hear.
00:21:06
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:21:08
echo_blades
But we we did fine. So we wanted to hear one. That's the song that he my son tries to play. He can't play the intro. And yeah,
00:21:15
Denis Tyrell
That's one of my favorites of theirs.
00:21:17
echo_blades
Yeah. So we got to hear that and they ended with, I didn't even remember though. They ended with, um, uh, Sandman, entered the Sandman. And I was like, this is great. This is great.
00:21:27
echo_blades
This a great way to end it. Like, yeah. So
00:21:30
Denis Tyrell
That was the only time I've seen Metallica was when that album came out.
00:21:35
echo_blades
yeah, that sort of a lot of like the old school butt rockers are going to say that they like sold out with without album.
00:21:35
Denis Tyrell
They played.
00:21:41
echo_blades
like that's the That's the album where they you know they they called it in.
00:21:42
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah, I know. I know. They went mainstream.
00:21:45
echo_blades
But I was like, that's that's the album that turned them into the world's most famous heavy metal band, period.
00:21:49
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, totally.
00:21:50
echo_blades
they Yeah, that's all they're doing what they're doing.
00:21:52
Denis Tyrell
That, Unforgiven, were so many good songs on album.
00:21:54
echo_blades
Yeah, they played that, yeah. and
00:21:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:21:56
echo_blades
So it was good. I really enjoyed it, man. I i had a blast. and Like I said, just hanging out. so But that brings me to this thing. so Metallica, the one and only time that I have ever fanboyed i i mean, too.
00:22:15
Denis Tyrell
You told me this. That's I'm laughing at everyone because he told me the story on the weekend.
00:22:21
echo_blades
Okay. Yeah. So this has got to be 10 plus years ago, maybe 15 even though. i I wasn't drinking. We were out to dinner at ah at a famous place in San Francisco called the the House of Prime Rib ah right on Van Ness.
00:22:37
echo_blades
We just got done with eating dinner and um it's it's the city, so there's nowhere to park your car. So you either park extremely far or you have them valet your car.
00:22:48
echo_blades
So we're waiting for them to to bring our car. And some old dude at the time walks by and he's like, bro, you know who that was? I'm like, what? No. He's like, that was James Hedfell. I'm like, Metallica?
00:23:01
echo_blades
yeah He's like, yeah, dude, he just he just walked in the in the restaurant. I'm like, no way. So I go back into the restaurant And I even this could be hard to do without like the visuals.
00:23:12
echo_blades
But I go in there and I I peek my head in and I and I and i see him. I'm like, holy shit, that is fucking James Hetfield from Metallica. And I just start like so awkwardly start like inching my way like over towards him.
00:23:28
echo_blades
And he's talking to the hostess and and I fucking snake my way right next to him to like almost where I'm like awkwardly like bumping arms with him.
00:23:30
Denis Tyrell
Mm-hmm.
00:23:37
echo_blades
And he's pretty tall dude, too. I think I was telling you, like you're you're about you I think you're a little taller than me, but I don't feel small around ah a lot of people. I'm i ah i'm a decent-sized guy that most people, i I feel, are smaller than me.
00:23:53
Denis Tyrell
a
00:23:53
echo_blades
There's a handful of people that, you know, you know but he's a tall dude, but he's him, right? So it's just the that thing. I just remember he looked down on me, he's like,
00:24:04
echo_blades
like Can I help you? or like like you know like like What do you want, dude? and and i'm like I turned to him, guys, and I said the only thing that came out of my mouth was, you rock, dude.
00:24:16
echo_blades
Oh my god.
00:24:20
echo_blades
That's all I could come up with, bro. That is it. I should put my hand out to shake his hand. And i was just like, you rock, dude. I might as well just fell right on my knees in the middle of that fucking place.
00:24:30
Denis Tyrell
but I'll accept them.
00:24:32
echo_blades
yeah un zipped and
00:24:37
echo_blades
It was that it was that bad. And I, to this day, I feel zero shame about it because that was freaking highlight. It's a great story, but.
00:24:47
echo_blades
you know, that was, that was not my proudest moment, but it is absolute. I could not come up with anything other than you rock, dude. Like just, it was so bad.
00:24:59
echo_blades
and he's like, right on, man. You know, thank you. And and and I just shook his hand. I couldn't even ask for a picture or anything. I just, then I just kind of fucking fanboyed my way out to the freaking car and was like, Oh God, I just like, it was crazy.
00:25:12
echo_blades
So yeah, that's, that's, that's that.
00:25:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:25:15
echo_blades
So full circle there. Me and James are best buddies and that's that day.
00:25:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you couldn't have lied and said he ah signed your shoes or something?
00:25:23
echo_blades
No, no. I, I tried to unzip him. That's, that's how that went. Yeah. Sorry guys that happened, yeah but it was great. It was great. But yeah.
00:25:35
echo_blades
So how would you get into
00:25:37
Denis Tyrell
ah you know, I'm just working away.

Parker's Crafting Journey

00:25:40
Denis Tyrell
um Yeah, I helped Parker with my son. Parker was in the shop last week. And ever since Blade Show, and I love this because I've been trying to get him to make a knife.
00:25:54
Denis Tyrell
You know, he's made a knife a couple years ago.
00:25:56
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:25:57
Denis Tyrell
He's made a couple, but it was like, you know, dad did, you know, 60 75% of it. And I don't know that he was really into it.
00:26:08
Denis Tyrell
You know, he was kind of, yeah, he was doing it, but yeah but he was young then. And now he asked me after Blade Show, he got all revved up about it because he was selling a bunch of those coffee scoops. He's like, oh i could I could actually make knives and sell them. And and he was excited.
00:26:25
Denis Tyrell
So I was excited for him. And he kept asking, this is how I know he was excited because he kept asking me, when can I come over and make a knife? So last week he came over and um we just did a like an AABL stock removal chef knife.
00:26:44
Denis Tyrell
But um he did awesome. I put him i put him up with the um the Tobin jig to grind it. And he did great. And he did all the steps and everything. Like I didn't, I probably did maybe 10% of it just to, you know, fix up the final grinds for him, stuff like that.
00:27:01
echo_blades
Sure.
00:27:02
Denis Tyrell
But yeah, he did great. He did a, and he even did, because I i said to him, like, hey, wait if it's an AABL knife, you should do something to it to, you know, make it stand out. Why don't you do segmented handle scales?
00:27:14
Denis Tyrell
he was all over that. And I said, fine, here. And he really liked the grip tech, so he used... that green grip tech with some carbon fiber on the front with some white g10 liner separate i think it looked amazing um and it was my first time working with grip tech and um the only thing i thought was weird is when you grind it like comes off in like little shoe strings which was really weird um it it grinds easy but it's i don't know it comes off the grinder really weird um
00:27:39
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:46
echo_blades
It comes up your belts a little bit too, but it's nothing crazy.
00:27:50
Denis Tyrell
Now, I didn't find that it, I didn't notice it gumming up belts. I just, it comes off in like strings.
00:27:56
echo_blades
Did you use the, uh, the, uh, the razor star?
00:28:01
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:28:02
echo_blades
Yeah. So Dennis, yeah. Dennis is probably one of the only makers that I know that is not a belt snob. He's got like a very small selection. has a decent amount, but he he he uses ceramic 36 and just like for everything.
00:28:21
echo_blades
like It still it wigs me out every now and again when... You're not like, oh, no, you grab that one. I'm like, bro, you're not using aluminum oxide or like, you know, all these things that other people do keep the the wood belt separate. And I mean, you do do that. But yeah.
00:28:35
echo_blades
So that's not a normal experience, though. Isn't it fucking yellow razor star on some handle material?
00:28:43
Denis Tyrell
Well, I didn't, I figured it was going to burn if we used a one 20. So I wanted it, you know, on the heavy grinding, i I do that with wood too.
00:28:51
echo_blades
Sure.
00:28:52
Denis Tyrell
I'll use the 36 just to take it off.
00:28:52
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:28:54
Denis Tyrell
Anyway, it comes off in little strings, which I thought was interesting, but it finished up great.
00:28:58
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:28:59
Denis Tyrell
And I was very happy with like my first time working with the product and it looks really good, like against carbon fiber. Cause it was green with black flex and then black, like a carbon fiber, um, like a, almost like a fat carbon kind of thing.
00:29:16
echo_blades
yeah And you try to say, I gave you the shitty ones.
00:29:21
Denis Tyrell
No, you just kept the copper color is the one I would have gravitated to.
00:29:22
echo_blades
It's all good. No. There is no shitty ones.
00:29:24
Denis Tyrell
And you knew that.
00:29:26
echo_blades
There is no shitty ones. What I'm saying is like I kept the copper ones because Mr. Copper didn't deserve it.
00:29:34
Denis Tyrell
i But yeah, he finished that knife and it, it it's it was my European chef knife model, which I'm really gleaning towards now, as opposed to the Kyoto, like the K-tip.
00:29:49
Denis Tyrell
I'm really loving that profile.
00:29:51
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:29:51
Denis Tyrell
So while he did that. It came out great. It was a razor when he was done. We did a, we didn't do an S-grime, but we did like a convex edge on it.
00:29:59
echo_blades
Sure.
00:29:59
Denis Tyrell
And it was a slicer. It was nice.
00:30:03
echo_blades
Nice.
00:30:03
Denis Tyrell
And, and then I get a text this morning from him. Hey, when can I come over and start my next knife? I'm like, man, yeah, that's awesome.
00:30:10
echo_blades
Cool, man. Yeah, that's awesome.
00:30:13
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, so today we profiled and um we, he profiled and did a hunter out of 1084, which um he's already, he treated.
00:30:21
echo_blades
Cool.
00:30:24
Denis Tyrell
And, you know, I've taught a lot of people to grind. And I'm pretty confident that I can teach anybody to grind a knife. And some people are, some people, you know, absorb the knowledge better than others, but Parker was definitely above average.
00:30:42
Denis Tyrell
He's done it before, but he did great. I didn't have to jump in at all. I bet a couple of times I said, Oh, don't do that. Do this. He changed what he was doing. It was great.
00:30:53
Denis Tyrell
So I was really proud of him and happy that he's, uh, he's in the, uh, the shop, but, oh, I got to say, oh, so this part was really funny. So he's hand sanding. This is last week. He's hand sanding the chef knife, right?
00:31:08
Denis Tyrell
Using like 220. And I, and then I tell him, okay, go to 400, get the 220 scratches out. And then after that, I say here, and I handed him like a little piece of, you know, the rubber strips that I use. And I said, put this on the, on the stick.
00:31:24
Denis Tyrell
And then, do like straight drags with the rubber backing so then like 10 minutes later he brings me the knife i'm like like but he's like he didn't put me paper i'm like that looks like shit what did you do he's like well i used the rubber like you told me i'm like dude you gotta put paper you gotta put sandpaper on it
00:31:36
echo_blades
You didn't put no paper.
00:31:46
echo_blades
That's great.
00:31:50
echo_blades
That's great. That's the, that's the finishing technique for the, ah for the grip tech. the The rubber stroke.
00:31:58
Denis Tyrell
yeah even he was laughing at himself about it so uh yeah but
00:32:03
echo_blades
Yeah, man. i'm I'm glad you guys use the grip tech. And if you guys haven't tried the, haven't tried grip tech, go check out grip tech official. ah Matt's got a, a new line that you could take up to even higher finish, um but still has the the grippy gripness.
00:32:20
echo_blades
And you can use the discount code triple T 10 for 10% off your next purchase there. So make sure I can't imagine anybody has not heard of it, but if you haven't, you need to go try it out. Cause yeah,
00:32:32
echo_blades
He's on to some, ah he's got amazing momentum right now with a great product. So make sure you go check, check that out.
00:32:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. and So many colors and combinations. And it works really well in segmented scales, I tell you.
00:32:46
echo_blades
Nice.
00:32:47
Denis Tyrell
um And then the other thing that, you know, I'll finish off. I told Parker, well, and I asked him, like, okay, are you, what are you going to, you know, his chef knife came out really nice.
00:32:57
Denis Tyrell
Like, something he could sell. And then I said to him, like, ah but he's going to keep that one. He's keeping the chef knife. But he he said, well, I think I might want to sell this hunter. And I said, fine, but what are you goingnna what are you going to use as your maker's mark?
00:33:12
Denis Tyrell
What are you going to call yourself? You know, yeah is it going to be P Tyrell Knives? But like, what are you going to kind of? And he didn't want anything to do with like the Tyrell.
00:33:23
Denis Tyrell
Like he didn't want to piggyback on any of the.
00:33:25
echo_blades
He want to do, do, do, do. Yeah.
00:33:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, because we were joking that when he should, do we should, because mine's a shark and he should be baby shark knives, but he didn't love that.
00:33:34
echo_blades
yeah
00:33:37
Denis Tyrell
But um shout out to my wife, because when she first met Parker, she would call him P-Dog. So he's going to call himself P-Dog Knives.
00:33:50
Denis Tyrell
So, um and we looked at logos today. Actually, think it's the, you're going to laugh and say I'm old, but it's the first time I've ever used chat GBT to actually generate an image.
00:34:01
Denis Tyrell
And
00:34:01
echo_blades
i have I have never done it. I am on the fence about it. i have a We have a a friend here that I've been giving a bunch of shit about it. ah it is It is a part of life now, and it it you'd be foolish not to try to take advantage of.
00:34:15
Denis Tyrell
I, we, we jumped on Parker said, i want, give me an image of a bulldog ah the face of a bulldog, uh, with a spiked collar and a knife in its mouth.
00:34:15
echo_blades
there's, yeah. there's yeah
00:34:29
Denis Tyrell
And he, and as soon as it generated, he's like, that's exactly what I wanted. And the only thing we changed was, okay, put regenerate the exact same thing and put a P on the knife.
00:34:35
echo_blades
right
00:34:42
Denis Tyrell
So there's the letter P on the knife. And the logo looks amazing. It would be a perfect maker's mark.
00:34:48
echo_blades
Nice.
00:34:49
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah. P-Dog knives coming soon.
00:34:52
echo_blades
Cool.
00:34:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:34:54
echo_blades
That's exciting stuff, man. Happy for you guys.
00:34:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. It's great to have the kid in the shop excited about making stuff. So.
00:35:02
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:35:04
Denis Tyrell
But the the class went really well. um This was Spencer, the one guy. he The last two Wednesdays, ah he he did a Damascus course, and he did really well. We did a really nice mosaic Damascus pattern, and I did an Instagram post just a couple hours ago on that with a picture of the Damascus. It just came out really, really good, nice and symmetrical, and it looks good.
00:35:31
echo_blades
Did he wield a curvy peen?
00:35:35
Denis Tyrell
Well, we didn't, i'm sorry, they did this weekend for sure.
00:35:39
echo_blades
Okay.
00:35:39
Denis Tyrell
um Not for the Damascus course, but then we were joined by another student um for the two-day bladesmithing course. He didn't use the Mosaic Damascus.
00:35:50
Denis Tyrell
He's going to keep that. But for that course, the guys definitely, the prime the prime vehicle for moving steel was the two-bastard straight-peen hammer.
00:35:51
echo_blades
Yeah, good idea.
00:36:02
Denis Tyrell
So yes, they were they were flopping around there peeing like crazy and hitting some steel. So if you guys need ah to get yourself a hammer, go check out Frank and Nita over at Two Bastards Texas Smithy and Supplies.
00:36:19
Denis Tyrell
Get yourself a peen of any variety, straight, cross, curved, you name it. He's got a fat peen for you. So go check him out.
00:36:32
Denis Tyrell
Because it's really grand when...
00:36:36
echo_blades
You have a fat peen in your hand.
00:36:41
Denis Tyrell
yeah but yeah, the guys did great in the course.
00:36:43
echo_blades
Yes.
00:36:45
Denis Tyrell
They ended yesterday um but some just... And they they did hunters with false edges. so like we ground the clips and yeah, it went really well.
00:36:58
echo_blades
I love it.
00:36:59
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:37:01
echo_blades
I love it. I am looking for something. god dang it.
00:37:06
Denis Tyrell
What are you looking for?
00:37:09
echo_blades
That's the Peyronie peen.
00:37:11
Denis Tyrell
The what?
00:37:11
echo_blades
That's the Peyronie peen. Ah, ah, ah.
00:37:14
Denis Tyrell
What the hell is that?
00:37:18
echo_blades
Peyronie.
00:37:23
Denis Tyrell
Peroni? As in like...
00:37:24
echo_blades
Yes.
00:37:25
Denis Tyrell
no, thinking of Pirelli.
00:37:27
echo_blades
No. It's Peyronie. it's ah You guys got look that up. It's a medical term for a curve. Yeah.
00:37:39
echo_blades
All my medical professionals will know what the pebroni penis.
00:37:42
Denis Tyrell
Oh, well, ah Spencer is an OBGYN, one of my students, so he would probably know what that is.
00:37:49
echo_blades
Yes, he would.
00:37:53
echo_blades
Shout out to Matt over there at Griptech.
00:37:56
Denis Tyrell
no ah Well, you're going to have to explain that to half the people, but.
00:37:56
echo_blades
He led me on to that. I got to work the pebroni peen into the read. It's happening now.
00:38:06
echo_blades
No, I'm not. You're going look it up. It'll make all the sense in the world. oh man.
00:38:13
Denis Tyrell
Oh, but, but, uh, yeah, now I'm still back to the stainless steel Damascus folders, which I'm hoping I'll probably have those done in a couple of the days.
00:38:15
echo_blades
Cool.
00:38:24
Denis Tyrell
They're, they're pretty much done. I just got to do some final finals. Um, and that video will be up, I think this Saturday and you will get to see the one and only Mr. Coy Baker in the shop. Um,
00:38:38
Denis Tyrell
when he was here and we made that stainless steel Damascus. So stay tuned. And they'll they'll be carrying stainless steel Damascus pretty soon. But if you want to get yourself some premium steel, ah copper, bronze, any of that cool stuff that they make, you got to get over to Bicker Forge and Tool or use the app and get yourself some some of that amazing steel or any of their etching products.
00:39:07
Denis Tyrell
um any of the Gator Pisses, the regular, the Max, and the Heavy. And I will be using the Max. haven't etched these folders yet, but I will be using the Gator Piss Max to etch the yeah stainless steel Damascus sometime this week.
00:39:24
echo_blades
Nice.
00:39:26
Denis Tyrell
So I'll definitely have that in the video. But it'll be fun. haven't edited that video yet, so we'll see what kind of funny thing. I know Koi did a few funny things that I got on video, so I'm looking forward to that.
00:39:39
echo_blades
It was a good time.
00:39:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:39:41
echo_blades
It was a good time. Yeah.
00:39:43
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:39:43
echo_blades
And they got the, uh, the all new nano ceramic, uh, gator skin.
00:39:49
Denis Tyrell
yeah I coated both of my students knives with that stuff um before they left. And I do find using the heat gun on it works really well. It cures it up but much quicker.
00:40:00
Denis Tyrell
So if you're ah if you're pressed for time ah You can always hit it with a heat gun and cure that stuff up. But I'm really loving the Gator Skin. i did my review video on that last week. My Triple T video was the review of Gator Skin.
00:40:16
Denis Tyrell
And I was impressed. Yeah,
00:40:19
echo_blades
You still got to leave it alone for 24 hours, but to cure it, he means dry.
00:40:22
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah. I mean...
00:40:25
echo_blades
I only say that because my dumb ass was wrong.
00:40:27
Denis Tyrell
Well, no, no. it You can fast cure it with um with heat. It's not just drying it. youre youre You are like fast curing it too.
00:40:39
echo_blades
Follow the directions. Dry it up and let it sit for 24 hours.
00:40:42
Denis Tyrell
i
00:40:42
echo_blades
Don't take the Dennis Terrell shortcut on everything.
00:40:44
Denis Tyrell
I talked to Koi and Koi said, yes, this is another option.
00:40:46
echo_blades
Good God.
00:40:49
Denis Tyrell
You can hit it with a heat gun and it will cure faster.
00:40:52
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:40:52
Denis Tyrell
so And that this is actually um what I did for the two... um swatches in the video that's actually how those were treated and dipped in water there's a control one without any gator skin and then a regular one ah one that is treated with gator skin I mean and they were dipped in water several times over several days and at the end the control is rusty and the gator skin one is totally clean so just beads right off
00:41:25
echo_blades
Just beat off.
00:41:28
echo_blades
Beat off.
00:41:32
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, get yourself some gator skin. it's ah It's worth it. It's good stuff.
00:41:37
echo_blades
Works on your socks too, boys. Don't worry about it. Many uses.
00:41:42
Denis Tyrell
And thank you for finally picking up your beat-off socks stuck into your beat-off.
00:41:45
echo_blades
My beat off socks. Oh shit. I got, I got some, I got some big news here.
00:41:53
Denis Tyrell
Oh, Jesus.
00:41:53
echo_blades
some big news here. So, uh, you know, I have not jumped officially jumped the croc ship, but I have entered a new realm for a new high speed style

Footwear Transition and Product Challenges

00:42:09
echo_blades
rubber shoe.
00:42:09
echo_blades
and there's, those are called canes.
00:42:12
Denis Tyrell
It's just a croc wannabe.
00:42:12
echo_blades
So now no way it is a full slip on shoe.
00:42:13
Denis Tyrell
Looking at it, I would still think it's a croc.
00:42:18
echo_blades
It is a active, um, You know, you can work out in it. It's got super support and the heel squishy time. And I wore those things all weekend.
00:42:28
Denis Tyrell
If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck.
00:42:32
echo_blades
It is far superior in the realm of activity. For lounging, you want to chill around and put on some camel Crocs and have your feet disappear. Then, yeah, stick with stick with the Crocs.
00:42:43
echo_blades
But if you're into that active lifestyle, which, by the way, now I've i've transitioned into there because I went to the fucking gym last week. Yeah.
00:42:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, who's Jim and where did you meet him?
00:42:55
echo_blades
No. No. Just the GYM. This is the active place here. down Jim and I, his name's James Hetfield. Okay. That's where I did that. All right. So don't worry about me and Jim.
00:43:08
echo_blades
But I did. So I was teasing my son because um we've had a gym membership for for ages. And it had been so long since I walked into that place. for that when i First off, now there's like an app.
00:43:22
echo_blades
that you can like scan to like check in instead of just walking in telling them your name.
00:43:27
Denis Tyrell
e
00:43:28
echo_blades
I didn't have the app. So I i did have to tell them my name. And as soon as I told them my name, they click the button motherfucking balloons fell from the ceiling. like The world's longest away member has arrived.
00:43:40
Denis Tyrell
What? it
00:43:42
echo_blades
Balloons fell from the sky. Like it was welcome home, man. You've been gone for so many years. Yeah.
00:43:48
Denis Tyrell
And you're still paying for the membership? You're one of those guys?
00:43:50
echo_blades
It was the world's most expensive gym visit ever.
00:43:51
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:43:55
echo_blades
Cause it's like six years of fucking membership fees that I, you know, went in one visit. So it was fantastic. My son was dying. I was telling the lady, I was like, where's my balloons? Like, you know, like,
00:44:08
echo_blades
She's like, look at the picture. You don't even look anything like this anymore. it Well, yeah. I mean, I was taking a 1980 probably. oh
00:44:18
Denis Tyrell
You were thinner back then? yeah.
00:44:20
echo_blades
oh No, I was bigger. Yeah.
00:44:23
Denis Tyrell
You're the only person that comes back after six years.
00:44:26
echo_blades
And I'm smaller.
00:44:27
Denis Tyrell
and yeah.
00:44:27
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:44:30
echo_blades
Oh, there's been many versions of Jared. So yeah, this one's not, not, not, not the peak ah beast mode one, but yeah, that was cool.
00:44:32
Denis Tyrell
oh
00:44:36
Denis Tyrell
Okay.
00:44:38
echo_blades
My son's been working out. So he you know, asked me to go and I was like, all right, man, let's go. And, uh, fuck, I, we lifted some way. I was sore as shit.
00:44:49
echo_blades
The next, not that it's the day after. Right. Uh, but yeah, I was like, well, we were driving down there. I was like reaching for something in the car. I'm like, Ooh, you, Oh, yeah. Yes.
00:45:01
Denis Tyrell
Kim has been the same way. i She comes home early from work today ah because she spent she went to yoga twice this weekend. And she comes home early but didn't come into the shop because we were making a whole bunch of noise.
00:45:17
Denis Tyrell
And I walk into the house and the entire fucking downstairs of the house smells like Bengay.
00:45:22
echo_blades
yes
00:45:24
Denis Tyrell
And ah yeah, so she's complaining about how much her butt and her legs hurt from going to yoga.
00:45:30
echo_blades
It's, it's real, it's real.
00:45:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:45:33
echo_blades
So yeah. Anyways, Canes for the win guys. Check them out. Free plug there boys for my six listeners. Yeah.
00:45:44
Denis Tyrell
oh
00:45:44
echo_blades
ah
00:45:45
Denis Tyrell
Well, I had a little experience this week. um
00:45:49
echo_blades
What was his name? Yeah.
00:45:50
Denis Tyrell
No, not that kind of experience.
00:45:51
echo_blades
Oh, okay. All right. Sorry.
00:45:53
Denis Tyrell
Well... So i'm not goingnna I'm not going to name names. I'm not going to say who it is, what the what the product is, but I'm going to tell a little story about what not to do when you're going to launch a product.
00:46:09
Denis Tyrell
So I had, there was someone that had posted a story or whatever, something on Facebook or whatever, about this product that he had.
00:46:20
Denis Tyrell
And I thought, oh, that's kind of interesting. I'm going to reach out to that person and and see, I want, I actually thought he bought it somewhere. So I wanted to get some of that product so I can try.
00:46:32
Denis Tyrell
And then we got to talking or messaging, whatever. And, uh, it turns out he's involved in this product in the testing and all this stuff. I'm like, okay, well, I'd like to try it. And like to try it on the YouTube channel.
00:46:47
Denis Tyrell
And, uh, but, It's like I'm only going to review something if it's something my audience can use and get.
00:46:59
Denis Tyrell
it's and It's absolutely no good for me to review a product if my audience can't get it. Like, what the fuck am I reviewing it for? Right? like Like, the audience is going to be like, okay, that's great, but I can't get it.
00:47:09
echo_blades
Fair enough.
00:47:14
Denis Tyrell
Like, what's the what's the deal? So I tried to explain to this guy many times because I'm like, Okay, this is interesting. You're telling me... And he's like the science guy. And I'm getting... and he's telling me all about the chemical.
00:47:28
Denis Tyrell
Like, it must be what, you know you know, what I sounded like in my 20s talking about computer science. Like, it's...
00:47:36
echo_blades
Gah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
00:47:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And he's like, blah, blah, chemistry, blah, blah, chemistry, blah, blah, chemistry. And I'm like, you just give me boiled it down for like a layman. And he's like, I'm like, how would you explain this to somebody in your elevator pitch? And he goes on for like, I'm like, come on, you got to dumb this to like marketing.
00:47:55
Denis Tyrell
And it's just not going well. Right. And, and I say to him, like, look, you need to, if you really want to make this a go of this, you got to get a website, you got to get a marketing guy, you got to get a name for this product.
00:48:10
Denis Tyrell
And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, okay. Comes back in a week with the name of this product, which is just fucking terrible. Like some weird chemistry name that makes no sense. He's got no website. He wants to, he wants me to give his Facebook link in the video And I'm like, no, I'm just not doing it. You're not ready. You're not ready.
00:48:32
Denis Tyrell
So I decline this. I'm like, I'm not doing the review. Forget it. So he gets whatever. And I find I'm going to ship this back to It's unopened, whatever. And he eventually says, no, no. And he kind of is like, he gets mad. But then he says, yeah, fine, keep it.
00:48:49
Denis Tyrell
So now time goes by. There's a ah competing product that I review, that I put a video up, and he then posts a shitty comment on this video, like that I'm a snake, that I'm, you know, I'm i'm not doing the right thing. And I'm like, you were never ready.
00:49:09
Denis Tyrell
So, guys, if you're going to get a product, if you're going to do something, like you want to get a product to market, do some marketing, do some research, and get, like,
00:49:23
Denis Tyrell
This is like the Betamax. Even if your product is the best thing out there, if you don't know how to market it, you don't know how to brand it, you don't have like a, have a slick name, be able, have an elevator pitch. If you can't tell someone about this product in 30 seconds about why it's cool and what it does, you're not the guy. You're not gonna be successful you bringing a product to market and you need to go get a marketing guy or some business guy.
00:49:52
Denis Tyrell
And anyway, I was pissed off that this guy went off and he's, I'm going to shoot this and I'm murdered. it doda And it was ridiculous. So I dealt with that over the weekend. Um, and I reached out to him and said, Hey, like, what's the deal?
00:50:07
Denis Tyrell
Like, you know, is this your play now just to post a shitty comment? And, uh, so yeah, he, he's, he apparently is going to sue people and thinking someone else stole his idea and like, Oh geez.
00:50:23
Denis Tyrell
Anyway, so I had to vent because that pissed me off.
00:50:26
echo_blades
A little salty he was, huh?
00:50:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, know it was ridiculous. He acted like a child. and But, you know, shit happens. If you don't know how to bring something to market, don't get mad if someone beats you to it.
00:50:40
echo_blades
Yeah. You can beat off with that stuff. Get out of here.
00:50:43
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:50:44
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:50:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but I've deleted the comment. Don't bother going looking in videos and stuff like that and finding it, but.
00:50:54
echo_blades
That's not fun.
00:50:57
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, I don't need this kind of grief. He was he's hidden from the channel. So anything he posts will be seen anyway Yeah, but on to new things
00:51:03
echo_blades
Yeah. Screw that. Yes.

Upcoming Classes and Product Highlights

00:51:09
echo_blades
Like, where do you go to get the most awesomest and plentiful supplies for your knife making?
00:51:09
Denis Tyrell
I am
00:51:16
Denis Tyrell
ah Well just today i went to the best knife making supply place ever and ordered some steel because mr jared didn't have what i needed so i had to order so i went to a maritime knife supply and ordered some uh some steel because i got a couple students coming in mid-july for it's it's it's weird so i had i had a student um who Jeff, who's coming in um ah mid-July, and we had set this up, and he's coming for a Kumai chef knife class.
00:51:54
Denis Tyrell
He's coming for three days. We're going to make some Kumai. We're going to do a chef knife beginning to end the whole deal. And then I got another one of my Patreon ah members who messaged me and says, I really want to do a chef knife class with you, maybe Kumai, sometime in July. I'm like, the moon's aligned, and...
00:52:16
Denis Tyrell
crazy coincidence that I have another person coming for the exact same thing. So we're doubling those guys up. So I, that's why I need the two inch stock. I don't normally need two inch stock, but so I'm going to have Dan and Jeff in the shop next in second week of July for, um for that class. So that should be fun.
00:52:38
echo_blades
Nice.
00:52:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. And we're, I'm just crossing my fingers.
00:52:39
echo_blades
I still haven't placed my order.
00:52:42
Denis Tyrell
Crossing my fingers, it's not going to be 100 degrees in the second week of July. So,
00:52:48
echo_blades
ah It's, it's, it's, up it's, yeah, it's, getting it's getting hot here.
00:52:51
Denis Tyrell
yeah, it's, it's, diet but I mean, it's only Kumai.
00:52:53
echo_blades
It's, it's maintained.
00:52:54
Denis Tyrell
So we'll be able to do it in like a morning or and by early afternoon, I think we'll be done. But that could be a hot, miserable day.
00:53:04
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:53:04
Denis Tyrell
But we'll get it done.
00:53:07
echo_blades
Cool. Yeah. And whatever else you need to finish that class with them, you go check out Lawrence from Maritime Knife Supply. He's got everything you need. And I want to give a big shout out. He put a post up here and i give a big shout out to Mrs. Maritime.
00:53:21
echo_blades
um You know, I think we all owe her a debt of gratitude for her pursuit of her degree in the medical field, which actually spawned the the idea for Lawrence to start Maritime Knife Supply.
00:53:37
echo_blades
And she just finished up that and and got her her degree. And we're all grateful for her pursuit of furthering her education in the new field and, and you know, starting the birth of Maritime Knife Supply.
00:53:53
echo_blades
So congrats, Robin.
00:53:54
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Congrats. Congrats.
00:53:57
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:53:57
Denis Tyrell
And I talked to Lawrence last last week and he was, he was pretty stressed. He was working some long hours cause it's like audit time for his main gig.
00:54:04
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:09
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:54:09
Denis Tyrell
And so he was getting pretty crazy and I told him like, Hey, don't worry about my order. I don't need my steel anytime soon, but yeah.
00:54:18
echo_blades
Yeah. No, he had mentioned he's grinding. The guy hustles, man.
00:54:22
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:54:23
echo_blades
He hustles. Many examples of hardworking people that ah ah definitely put the time in here in our community. And our sponsors, like I said many times before, minus um I think just Koi. Koi.
00:54:39
echo_blades
They all have regular gigs, and and and they this is this the side hustle, and they're they're making it happen.
00:54:42
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:54:46
echo_blades
um Along with our buddy ah Travis Haynes from Pelican Paste. If you're in the need for some premium ah wax, go check out pelicanpaste.com on IG. He's got everything you need in that department. Hard wax, soft wax, Pelican oil, hand-solve, soap.
00:55:04
echo_blades
the, uh, the new, uh, cast iron seasoning butter knot. Um, that's the, uh, that's the new new thing there.
00:55:10
Denis Tyrell
Oh.
00:55:13
echo_blades
And, um, yeah, if you, uh, load up that cart with all that stuff, I just mentioned, you can use the discount code triple T 10 that's tt T T T 10 for 10% off your, uh, next purchase.
00:55:26
Denis Tyrell
Yep, go get it.
00:55:28
echo_blades
Yep.
00:55:28
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah, you need to put that in the notes because I'm not going to remember. I knew it was butter something, but.
00:55:32
echo_blades
You better not forget it ever again. All right.
00:55:36
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, i probably won't now that you said that.
00:55:36
echo_blades
and way Yes, you're welcome.
00:55:39
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I do need, I am already just like blade show. I'm already feeling the stress because I've got the military challenge build.
00:55:49
Denis Tyrell
I've got this class in mid July, and then I have to be at the Midwest knife makers guild hammer in. Cause I'm the headline instructor there. So I have to prep a knife, uh, a KU my knife. Cause I'm teaching KU my theory guard and handle.
00:56:07
Denis Tyrell
um for that course which is mid-august so i'm all like how am i gonna fit all this stuff in mid-august i just booked my flight today actually
00:56:11
echo_blades
Oh, I thought that was mid July.
00:56:17
echo_blades
Hmm. Maybe. y'all
00:56:20
echo_blades
Oh, well then maybe I'm going to stick by my guns. I'm not sure I'm making that one.
00:56:25
Denis Tyrell
yeah uh i'm actually going to i'm going to be there for four days because i'm going to the hammer-in
00:56:26
echo_blades
I'm not sure.
00:56:34
Denis Tyrell
And then I'm going to um ae Jason Krause's, and I apologize, I think it's North Star Forge. I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
00:56:47
Denis Tyrell
I forget his forge name, but he's basically up in, let me just, North Star Forge, yeah. So he's up in Minnesota, Florida.
00:56:58
Denis Tyrell
ah near Minneapolis and I'll be going there teaching the full guard and handle class for the two days after the Midwest Knifemakers Guild hammer-in.
00:57:07
echo_blades
nice
00:57:07
Denis Tyrell
So we just kind of nailed that out this morning of what I'm going to be teaching. So um that'll be cool. i be That'd be fun to teach a bunch of students that class um after the hammer-in. So we'll be staying for a couple of days for that.
00:57:24
Denis Tyrell
So cool.
00:57:25
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:57:27
Denis Tyrell
But, Jared, if you go, then you can learn guards and handles.
00:57:32
echo_blades
I don't have to go to Minneapolis for that. I just have to have interest.
00:57:41
echo_blades
ah Yeah. I don't know, man. I've there, this has been an, in just an absolute record setting year for travel for me. Um, so, uh, it's, uh, not quite sure I can fit in the rest of the work travel, potentially makers camp, uh, you know, bunch of, bunch of things.
00:58:01
echo_blades
Uh, so I don't know.
00:58:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and that that hammering is Friday, Saturday. So um you'd have to take at least a day off work, um probably two, to get that in.
00:58:12
echo_blades
Yeah, probably too, yeah, because unless we we'd pull our famous East Coast red eye, but I don't know what you did. So, yeah, I don't know.
00:58:22
echo_blades
We'll see. Chances are i won't be joining you, but, you know, it's good for you to get out and do things on your own, Dennis. You know, I can't hold your hand through everything, okay, buddy? You're a capable human being. you're You're, you know, you're well on your way to establish
00:58:34
Denis Tyrell
Who's going to carry my luggage at the airport?
00:58:36
echo_blades
hey I don't know who carries it when when I'm there. Parker? Old P-Dog himself? Get out of here.
00:58:42
Denis Tyrell
That's right. Someone's got to do it.
00:58:45
echo_blades
That's right.
00:58:46
Denis Tyrell
Oh, and actually to complete that, um, my military challenge build has taken a little swerve because I was, I did have,
00:58:58
Denis Tyrell
um a client that wanted u.s navy officer sword which is why i was grouping this as my military challenge build and unfortunately he's backed out so am switching up the build um it will be another u.s military weapon but you guys will have to wait and see what it is but it's a popular one i think a lot of people are going to like this one
00:59:24
echo_blades
Man, I'm going to bust your balls here. You going to turn an order into the challenge on something you've already done.
00:59:34
Denis Tyrell
no No, no, no, no, no. This is a brand new. It's a new order.
00:59:39
echo_blades
why that's what I'm saying, but you've done officer sword.
00:59:39
Denis Tyrell
but Yeah, I've done it once, but this is so is a totally, he wants a kumai. It's a totally different thing. like
00:59:48
echo_blades
I need some more creativity out you, old man. that I'm not buying that.
00:59:50
Denis Tyrell
Well.
00:59:52
echo_blades
You're the leader of this damn challenge, buddy. I want to see a freaking nuclear bomb or Damascus bomb.
00:59:58
Denis Tyrell
and a near bottom yeah I'll get Kim to bring some back from the lab.
01:00:03
echo_blades
Yeah, there you go.
01:00:05
Denis Tyrell
No, no, i'm I'm picking one that I've wanted to do for a while. um And I think there's just going to... There's an insane cult following for, um you know, for this branch.
01:00:22
Denis Tyrell
um
01:00:22
echo_blades
And have you done this before?
01:00:23
Denis Tyrell
I have not.
01:00:24
echo_blades
See, that's the Dennis Terrell we all love and want to see it and challenge.
01:00:26
Denis Tyrell
Yes, I have not. And i and it's... it's ah It'll be a good one. I like this. I've wanted to do the... It's a sword. I've wanted to do this sword for a while. So I think it'll be cool.
01:00:36
echo_blades
There go. All right. Okay. right. right.
01:00:41
Denis Tyrell
I just haven't decided if I'm going to do it in Damascus, if I'm going to do a layered one.
01:00:41
echo_blades
That's better.
01:00:45
Denis Tyrell
Like I've got a whole bunch of stuff spinning in my head, but I don't know.
01:00:49
echo_blades
right. All right.
01:00:52
Denis Tyrell
I don't know. But I actually have one on order, like a replica one, so that I... I'm not going to totally fuck this up and I'll have something to work off of. So that's, uh, I thought it was a good move.
01:01:07
Denis Tyrell
So I have all the right dimensions and it comes out. Correct. You know what i mean?
01:01:11
echo_blades
h I do, now I do. What the hell is happening here?
01:01:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:01:16
Denis Tyrell
I don't know what's happening.
01:01:17
echo_blades
Nothing, go ahead. Who do you have for MakerSpotlight?
01:01:21
Denis Tyrell
um This is one of those someone that just, um um you you know, just followed me the in the last couple of days. And then I took a look and I was i was really impressed. um This is...
01:01:34
Denis Tyrell
uh amondo knives a m o n d o amondo amondo knives no underscore nothing only 510 followers um but some really cool knives like the the third i was really impressed if you're if you're looking at um yeah the third one
01:01:54
echo_blades
i am now
01:01:57
Denis Tyrell
just some really inventive things on the knife that i thought were really cool. Um, just like some of the relief on the edge of the knife, I thought was just some really cool stuff.
01:02:10
Denis Tyrell
The, just some,
01:02:11
echo_blades
That thing is just, yeah, I love the handles.
01:02:14
Denis Tyrell
yeah. And like, if you go down, like, what is it?
01:02:16
echo_blades
Green on there, yeah.
01:02:17
Denis Tyrell
One, two, I don't know. One, two, three, nine, the, the, like, uh, the 10th one, there was like a red, red handle.
01:02:24
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:25
Denis Tyrell
Love that one.
01:02:27
echo_blades
Yeah. That's some really good stuff.
01:02:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Some really, and he does a lot of like, ah it almost looks like, but it was just going to say blood dripping kind of thing, but it's, it's like etched or engraved or something into the knife.
01:02:34
echo_blades
That drip, it's kind of like that, yeah. Yeah.
01:02:42
Denis Tyrell
Really, really cool stuff.
01:02:42
echo_blades
Yeah, and I dig it.
01:02:44
Denis Tyrell
um
01:02:45
echo_blades
That's a good one.
01:02:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I don't know this person's name, just Amando knives. So go check them out. And um yeah, he's got some really cool stuff.
01:02:56
Denis Tyrell
Beautiful sheaths too.
01:02:59
echo_blades
Yeah, he's got a YouTube channel, too.
01:03:02
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I'm going to check him out.
01:03:06
echo_blades
Yeah, that's good one.
01:03:12
echo_blades
um I lost you.
01:03:12
Denis Tyrell
Who's on your list this week?
01:03:13
echo_blades
Okay. Yeah. So I could have swore that I had, I had done this one before, but yeah, I know I talked about him a few times, but I searched through our stuff.
01:03:18
Denis Tyrell
I thought we had...
01:03:25
echo_blades
I'd ask you to do it now.
01:03:29
Denis Tyrell
Oh, you called it out in episode number 57.
01:03:33
echo_blades
Just as just as one of the blade show guys.
01:03:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah,
01:03:37
Denis Tyrell
yeah just as one of the Blade show highlights from last year.
01:03:38
echo_blades
Yeah. yeah. So, um, yeah, but, uh, yeah.
01:03:40
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it must have been last year.
01:03:44
echo_blades
So I, my maker spotlight is, um, our buddies over at, uh, wizard forge. Um, and I didn't get there.
01:03:55
echo_blades
Hold on one second. Um, I've done a horrible job here. Jeez. God, sorry. I keep searching in the messages, trying to pull the profile up, but, ah Yeah.
01:04:08
echo_blades
So, um, yeah, go check out wizard forge. That's one word, the wizard forge. Uh, they have, uh, 8,836 followers. And ah know, uh, basically these guys came up to, to our table, um, uh,
01:04:27
echo_blades
three four years ago um and you know we're kind of in in a little bit of a spot and they were kind of forced their hand into going full time and you know since then they have just blown up they make awesome edc stuff um gremlin is their flagship model and they're they're always innovating uh making you know axes and hatchets and new models this year. We're like basically the gremlin without the ring.
01:04:56
echo_blades
um Really cool handles. Great Kydex fix fits. And you, you talk to him and he'll he does a fantastic job of what you were talking about with the, you know, selling your product in 30 seconds.
01:05:11
echo_blades
Like, you know, we, I think the, the bald man
01:05:11
Denis Tyrell
Right.
01:05:16
echo_blades
k t and that's a yeah i said it buddy uh yeah don't worry about it he the person gets it yeah he gets it yeah so i went over with the with the bald man crew and they were checking him out and an old john rough 38 was uh you all right pitch me and the guy and they started doing their thing he did fantastic man so but i just love the story i love them and um just wanted to give them a shout out here and if you're not
01:05:21
Denis Tyrell
What? um i missed that flew over my head.
01:05:43
echo_blades
giving them a follow, go check them out and tell them the boys that a triple T said, what's up.
01:05:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, cool. Cool guys.
01:05:52
echo_blades
Yeah. Gal married couple. Beautiful.
01:05:55
Denis Tyrell
ah
01:05:56
echo_blades
Yep. Yeah. They just stayed. like The, the, from where they were to where they're at now is just, it's, it's, it's such an inspiring story and I love it. And I tell them that every time I see them. So, you know,
01:06:07
Denis Tyrell
You were right by there. There in Charleston, South Carolina.
01:06:12
echo_blades
Oh, I guess I was kind of either.
01:06:13
Denis Tyrell
or Oh, you were in North. You were in.
01:06:16
echo_blades
I went through there.
01:06:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you went through there.
01:06:19
echo_blades
I don't know. Did I go through?
01:06:22
echo_blades
I don't know. I don't know South Carolina also, but you get it.
01:06:25
Denis Tyrell
I'm pretty sure it's south of North Carolina, but ah that's just a hunch.
01:06:27
echo_blades
I don't know where Charleston is in relationship to them. Ask much
01:06:30
Denis Tyrell
I don't know.
01:06:35
echo_blades
douche.
01:06:36
Denis Tyrell
the
01:06:37
echo_blades
He's a douche.
01:06:39
Denis Tyrell
Squad douche.
01:06:40
echo_blades
Yeah. So, yeah.
01:06:41
Denis Tyrell
So what do you got coming up this week? Anything exciting? More work?
01:06:45
echo_blades
yeah uh lots of work um that's always interesting um i gotta taking jared's joining me on a um in my golf tournament on saturday um bringing him as ah as a guest to to the league so it's a funny story and we can wrap this up here um
01:07:06
Denis Tyrell
Oh, i I got something else to tell you, but go ahead.
01:07:09
echo_blades
Okay. Okay. All good. We could stay here all night. It's all good. The, ah my disdain for the San Francisco giants is it's, it's there.
01:07:18
Denis Tyrell
Never ending.
01:07:19
echo_blades
It's never ending. Yeah. So a few years back, they had a ah player named Pablo Sandoval and i can't tell you how much that irritated me.
01:07:31
echo_blades
So,
01:07:32
Denis Tyrell
Why? Because he sucked or he was good?
01:07:35
echo_blades
ah He was a good player. He was actually great because you know for for big bigger guys, fat dudes, we were able to get jerseys in our size because of him. But no, he's a good ball player. nothing Nothing personally against him. His last name was Sandoval, and he was on the Giants. So every time i said my name is Jared Sandoval, they, you know, oh, Pablo Sandoval, and they called him the Panda.
01:07:56
echo_blades
and i despise despise but i'm setting it out there whatever because the jeff who as when we were in high school i was notorious for being giant and making making fun of people and stuff like that so jeff signs me up for this league and everybody has a nickname uh
01:08:00
Denis Tyrell
oh
01:08:21
echo_blades
all the, the, the members. Right.
01:08:23
Denis Tyrell
And you're the panda.
01:08:23
echo_blades
And I was, and I was a guest for all these years. So the first time I signed up, I see the fucking printout come up and I'm like, dude, where am I? And he goes, you're, you're there. You're, you're, you're in my group. And I'm like the fucking Panda.
01:08:36
echo_blades
And so that's, that's my name in this group. And I have to accept it. Cause it's, it's a good dig, but I was dying because we got the, the roster for, for who was playing this week and it's Panda and little Panda.
01:08:53
echo_blades
yeah So, uh, yeah, little Panda and I are going out to, uh, to golf this weekend in a tournament. That'll be his first one. So, um, kind of stoked about that. And then, uh, definitely we'll be in the shop, um, couple of days this weekend and Sunday.
01:09:08
echo_blades
Cause I have yet to get back in it and, uh, still got, still got the, uh, the motivation, uh, the desire, all that stuff is there. I'm feeling it, but, uh,
01:09:18
Denis Tyrell
Nothing on the press? Nothing on... What's the name of the press?
01:09:21
echo_blades
No, I mean, it's just about time right now, man. Like, and I, again, like it's in, you know, the old, the way I'm viewing it right now is that, you know, it really just comes down to time.
01:09:33
echo_blades
Like I'm, I'm traveling, I'm doing this, you know, we got, you know weekend stack up, I got things anniversary, and all that stuff right after blade show gone. um And I'm just not, I'm just not beating myself up over it anymore.
01:09:46
echo_blades
You know it's going to happen when it happens and and it'll get here.
01:09:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:09:51
echo_blades
and the time's going to, going to do it. And I just got to, you know, make the time and, and I'm good with, with where I'm at right now. I think there's a good, good balance between, you know, the work life family, um you know, but living and doing things like,
01:10:08
echo_blades
I was just thinking about how much, you know, I've done over the past just a couple weeks. Right. You know, it's been, I went to blade, you know, visit my buddies in North Carolina. I come home and I'm in Morro Bay and Metallica. And like, it's not like I'm not doing anything sitting around, you know, just beating off all day.
01:10:24
echo_blades
It's, it's those, yeah.
01:10:26
Denis Tyrell
I don't The socks are pretty crunchy. but
01:10:28
echo_blades
Well, Hey, we're, we're traveling, you know, but yeah, but ah Yeah, so I'm good, man. I'm in good spirits, ah doing don feeling good.
01:10:39
echo_blades
um you know And and that's that's that's what i'm that's where I'm living right now. So it's all good.
01:10:46
Denis Tyrell
Good. Yeah. I got to give you an update on the the shitty start to my week. um What do they say about boats?
01:10:58
Denis Tyrell
You know, just a hole in
01:10:59
echo_blades
Break out

Jet Ski Troubles and Repair Decisions

01:11:00
echo_blades
another thousand. Yeah, break out another thousand.
01:11:00
Denis Tyrell
the water you pour money into?
01:11:03
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, exactly.
01:11:03
echo_blades
That's what it stands for.
01:11:05
Denis Tyrell
Well, it's not break out another thousand. It's break out several thousand. So the jet ski that I thought was just an alternator problem...
01:11:17
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:11:18
Denis Tyrell
ah And I'm thinking, oh it's got to be it's got to be something like something electrical. was joking. like like Maybe I was being really optimistic. like Maybe it's just a loose wire. Maybe they're going to call me the next day and say, oh, yeah, it was just a loose wire from the stator alternator, of the fuck that thing's called. i get the I get the call from the jet ski place.
01:11:42
Denis Tyrell
Engine is seized. There's a piston seized in the engine. It needs a new engine.
01:11:47
echo_blades
Oh.
01:11:48
Denis Tyrell
Four grand.
01:11:49
echo_blades
Ouch. How much those things cost new?
01:11:53
Denis Tyrell
Well, they the the last time they were made is 03, so...
01:11:57
echo_blades
Well, how much is a new jet ski? Like I have zero.
01:12:00
Denis Tyrell
oh Oh, a brand new jet ski?
01:12:02
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:12:02
Denis Tyrell
they're like 13, 15 grand. I mean, yeah, it's...
01:12:06
echo_blades
Oh, OK. All right.
01:12:08
Denis Tyrell
the um But it's like, I have one on the trailer that works fine. like It's like, yes, I'm putting more money into it than the jet ski is worth by far, but it's like...
01:12:19
echo_blades
Right.
01:12:22
Denis Tyrell
You know, I have one that works. I might as well put the the new engine in the other one. So, yeah, that's what I'm doing.
01:12:30
echo_blades
Oh, well, there you go.
01:12:30
Denis Tyrell
So it's painful.
01:12:32
echo_blades
Yeah, that does suck.
01:12:34
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. So every time I every every single time I have something with the jet ski and I'm like, maybe maybe maybe this one time. so it'll be less than I imagined. It's never once been less. It's always been like two x worse than my what i think my worst case is yeah boats suck
01:12:53
echo_blades
No, that's funny.
01:12:57
echo_blades
It's not funny. Sorry, that's not that sucks.
01:12:59
Denis Tyrell
yeah but i mean it's kind of funny now because i've kind of accepted it and told them to go forward and yeah paid for a diagnostic on the other one just to make sure that was the first thing i did actually is like okay i can check out the red one because if there's something totaled on the red one i'm not going to bother
01:12:59
echo_blades
That sucks, yeah. I don't...
01:13:19
echo_blades
I just wrote you a note.

Closing Remarks and Playful Exchanges

01:13:20
echo_blades
And stop fucking deleting my...
01:13:20
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah, I saw it. I'm definitely using that as the name of the episode. so
01:13:23
echo_blades
Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Touche. I thought it was going to be fucking unzip fucking or something else. Yeah. Oh, that's good.
01:13:32
Denis Tyrell
Unzipping James.
01:13:32
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:13:38
Denis Tyrell
I might just incorporate that in there.
01:13:41
echo_blades
ah good
01:13:42
Denis Tyrell
Pandas going down.
01:13:51
echo_blades
i
01:13:51
Denis Tyrell
well
01:13:52
echo_blades
Touche, Mr.
01:13:53
Denis Tyrell
but
01:13:54
echo_blades
Former Canadian.
01:13:57
Denis Tyrell
Oh, yeah, actually.
01:13:58
echo_blades
That's good.
01:13:58
Denis Tyrell
Oh, thank you. You're just reminding me. I got i have an interview for my passport application on for on Thursday. ah better go get some pictures taken.
01:14:05
echo_blades
Nice. Yeah. and And dude, we have these notes here. um I've been getting busy on them. Don't fucking erase my notes.
01:14:13
Denis Tyrell
so First of all, it is common courtesy when you're going to fucking erase all of the notes before you put new notes in so that I know you you know you copied them and you put new notes in.
01:14:24
echo_blades
All you need to know is that anything south of the word Jared is none your fucking business. All right. Stay out of it.
01:14:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, but right before we like like an hour ago, i was like, because Jared's lazy, does actually go and he copies the notes but doesn't delete the ones from last week.
01:14:42
echo_blades
I normally do, but I was, i was utilizing the format I had.
01:14:42
Denis Tyrell
so Yeah, but he didn't. So I'm like, I thought it was being nice by clearing the notes so Mr. Last Minute can put his notes in, but...
01:14:53
echo_blades
that was funny I was like you mother
01:14:57
Denis Tyrell
You could have just hit undo, you know that, right? Yeah.
01:14:59
echo_blades
no and then I would undid your notes P dog would have been lost forever just like my other notes we were gonna have the best show ever and now it's just this one yeah now it's just this one pandas going down alright well I don't have shit else for you so
01:15:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, instead you got this. Panda's going down.
01:15:13
Denis Tyrell
i think that's the new name. All right. We're done. I'm done.
01:15:23
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. Bye. It's going down tonight.
01:15:26
Denis Tyrell
Bye.
01:15:33
Denis Tyrell
Oh, James, I love you.
01:15:33
echo_blades
and
01:15:34
Denis Tyrell
You're the best. You rock.
01:15:37
echo_blades
You rock, dude.
01:15:40
echo_blades
And that's a wrap.