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S3-139: Talking Northeast De-Icing Solutions Demo Day!
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The guys sit down with Robert Thyng of RD Outdoor, Shawn DiVincenzo of Native Property Managment, and Pat Salmon of Northeast De-Icing Solutions to get everyone's take on a fantastic final snow event of the off season!
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Introduction and Episode Sponsorship
00:00:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Let's get it, Snowjobs Nation. We are back again bringing you episode 139 of the Snowjobs Podcast main show powered by Top Gun Backblades. As always, I'm Steve. You know who's with me. Mr. Jeremy Lindstrom, Glacier Snow Management, got his butt off the combine tonight to record for you. up, Farmer Jay?
00:01:06
RICK JAMES
Hey, Steve-O, not a lot.
00:01:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
How we doing?
00:01:10
RICK JAMES
I'm just going to do a little podcast, I guess, tonight. See how this works out.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Back on track. ah Sunday night.
00:01:14
RICK JAMES
Yeah, back Sunday night. Back to Sunday. Sunday night.
00:01:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nothing like nothing like last second.
00:01:19
RICK JAMES
Hopefully everything works.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Hope everything works because I don't have time to fix it.
00:01:26
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
Jeremy's Week: Farm and Event Highlights
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The SnowJobs Podcast
How was your week?
00:01:28
RICK JAMES
Really good. Yeah, we had a good that good week.
00:01:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:01:31
RICK JAMES
So got to go out east, obviously, as you know, to see the boys and Patty's little shindig out there, northeast the icing.
00:01:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:01:38
RICK JAMES
And yeah, so back in here and just doing my thing.
00:01:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Combining. What are you doing?
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RICK JAMES
i'm by Combining, combining.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Sugar beets?
00:01:47
RICK JAMES
They're starting tomorrow night, I guess, finally. so it's cool that...
00:01:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
What were you doing?
00:01:52
RICK JAMES
I was combining soybeans and then we finished them and we switched over to corn and yeah, they start sugar beets tomorrow night. So yeah.
00:02:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Is it feed corn or no?
00:02:04
RICK JAMES
Feed corn?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Feed corn, like corn for feed.
00:02:05
RICK JAMES
I mean, you can use it for feed.
00:02:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
What do they use it for? Isn't it a little late for corn harvest? No.
00:02:13
RICK JAMES
This is always corn and harvest around here in October.
00:02:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh
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RICK JAMES
So, so yeah, no, just put it in the bins or where if they sell it to the elevators or whatever they're going to do with it. So yeah.
00:02:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha. Very cool.
Steve's Weekend: Hockey Adventures
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RICK JAMES
So how about What's up?
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:02:25
RICK JAMES
What's new?
00:02:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Busy couple days of hockey. I don't know how these kids do it. I was tired just watching today. Two games in ah five hours. don't how they're still on their feet, but they're good.
00:02:37
RICK JAMES
Oh, your kids are kids are in hockey?
00:02:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. So, yeah, right?
00:02:43
RICK JAMES
When did that start?
00:02:46
RICK JAMES
ah
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The SnowJobs Podcast
It never stops. But, yeah, they played two games today, and the little one played a game today. So, a lot a lot of hockey this weekend. But I am ah i'm shot. A lot of driving. We had to go all the way down to Long Island, which I hate.
00:03:03
RICK JAMES
How far is that?
00:03:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
doesn't It's not the distance that'll get you. it's I just don't like Long Island. Yeah.
00:03:09
RICK JAMES
Oh, is it too long?
00:03:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
um no it's about it's about two hours i think it was two hours there and then uh they played a game down there and uh that was not a good experience the refs were uh not good at all it got a little brutal it got a little brutal
00:03:24
RICK JAMES
Oh boy.
00:03:28
RICK JAMES
Youth sports, maybe. Youth sports.
00:03:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
I know. Crazy, right?
00:03:31
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
And then ah they played a game closer to home on the way back and played really well, and that was good.
00:03:32
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:03:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
But, yeah, I'm tired just watching.
00:03:37
RICK JAMES
Good.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah I don't know how they do it. God bless them to be young.
00:03:41
RICK JAMES
Hmm. Yep.
00:03:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
But, yeah, that's it,
Steve's Massachusetts Trip and Tobacco Ban
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The SnowJobs Podcast
man. Been a busy week. Got to Massachusetts. No flavored tobacco state. um Yeah, it was ah no flavored tobacco.
00:03:51
RICK JAMES
No flesh through tobacco.
00:03:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
They don't sell flavored tobacco there. So if you need flavored tobacco, then you better get it before you cross the border.
00:04:02
RICK JAMES
Wow. That's something new.
00:04:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
But yeah, that was a lot of fun. it was a quick turnaround, but glad we could get up there for Mr. Salmon, for actually both Mr. Salmons and ah attend their event. they yeah They really raised the bar this year.
00:04:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was a huge improvement for a second year event.
00:04:17
RICK JAMES
Definitely. Yeah. ah Yeah, it was really good. Yep.
00:04:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
and Absolutely. And that's, ah I think that's what we're going
00:04:23
RICK JAMES
Good timing.
Upcoming Guests and Event Reflections
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The SnowJobs Podcast
to do tonight.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
We're going we're going to have some of the boys on that went to Northeast de-icing solution, second annual field day. And it was a great time to have a couple of the guys ah give their thoughts on the day.
00:04:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then I think because we just wrapped up our show season, we are not attending quip this year. We're to sit this one out, ah rest up for the winter. So that, that wraps up but a lot of events in the spring and summer for us. And we're going see who liked what the best as far as all the events we attended.
00:04:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's what we're goingnna do tonight and see where else we get into. we've We've managed to get ourselves into arguments talking about other things. So maybe we'll see, yeah see what arguments we can get into tonight.
00:05:06
RICK JAMES
Sounds like a plan to me.
00:05:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah But as always, guys, before we see where this goes, we're going to hear from team Top Gun and we'll be right back to do a quick week of review.
00:05:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
all right, guys,
Snow Guy Event Promotion at Jim Beam Distillery
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The SnowJobs Podcast
we're back. ah Just a couple announcements right here. So as we said, we are not attending Equip next month or actually this month now, the end of this month. um But at Equip Expo at the end of the month, Top Gun Backblades is again going to be hosting a Snow Guy event at the Jim Beam Distillery.
00:06:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
And guys, if you are in snow and you're going to Equip, you do not want to miss out on this party. we went last year it was amazing it was a great time it absolutely insane venue a lot of history there it was beautiful uh first class all the way ah gorgeous so i i would think one of the best events we've ever been to what do you what do you think jay
00:06:31
RICK JAMES
Yeah, it was definitely a fun, it was a fun night for sure. yeah
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The SnowJobs Podcast
absolutely so
00:06:34
RICK JAMES
It's a really cool spot. Really cool spot.
00:06:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
So Top Gun Tebow says, if you want to go to that party at Equip and you're snow guy headed to Equip, head over to topgunblades.com, fill out the contact form, and leave the comment Equip Expo.
00:06:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
And watch for the link also posted on Top Gun's Instagram and Facebook pages. Again, guys, if you are going to Equip, you know, go hang out with other snow guys at this event.
Storm Chasing Season 2 Submissions
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The SnowJobs Podcast
This is going to be a good time. This is actually, I'm kind of sorry I'm not going to Equip just for the Arctic party in this.
00:07:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah, no doubt.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
so
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RICK JAMES
I didn't know he was having one again.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I know I know i'm um kind of that might have swayed me to attend just go out for Jim Beam
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:07:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
uh but yeah so check that out don't miss it uh what else what else we got thank you to everybody all the companies that submitted videos to try and be uh voted in to be on season two of storm chasing uh the voting will be coming soon but we want to thank everybody for their submissions uh there were a couple really funny ones that we saw what was the what was the bruce
00:07:18
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:07:40
RICK JAMES
Bruce companies, yeah. Yeah.
00:07:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Was the bruce the Bruce companies in Wisconsin?
00:07:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was a funny-ass video, dude.
00:07:44
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:07:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
I left my ass off at that.
00:07:46
RICK JAMES
It was funny. Yeah. I think they kind of threw a shot at me, so i don't know if I'd throw a vote their way.
00:07:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
I didn't see it that way. I saw that they that they were taking cart corral seriously after they saw you doing it.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:07:56
RICK JAMES
Yeah. I don't know. i I don't know.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
I thought it was freaking funny. I thought it was great.
00:08:02
RICK JAMES
ah Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
They really nailed that.
00:08:04
RICK JAMES
We'll see.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
And the bloopers were funny at the end, too.
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RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
That was really funny.
00:08:09
RICK JAMES
It was good.
00:08:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
So you guys, those, those videos will be up and you will be able to vote on these companies to see which company you want to see featured in an episode on season two of storm chasing. what else uh as always guys keep hitting uh apple podcast and spotify drop reviews like subscribe all that good stuff all right it helps us and uh you know keeps us going so thanks in advance for that and snow jobs nation store stocked and ready with all your long sleeve needs for the upcoming winter so get your shit now all right anything else jay did i miss anything
00:08:44
RICK JAMES
I think that's it, bud.
00:08:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right. Well, and let's hear from our partners. We'll be right back. We'll get into it with the boys.
Northeast De-Icing Solutions Event: Guest Insights
00:09:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
all right guys we are back so let's welcome in a couple of the boys tonight the usual suspects we got robert thing from rd outdoor up in maine we got ron devon benzo from native snow new jersey and we have pat salmon of northeast the icing solutions so if we're gonna bash his event we're gonna do it right to his face this should be good this should good what's up boys
00:10:15
Patty Salmon
exactly
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RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
00:10:18
Patty Salmon
What's going on
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RICK JAMES
So, guys.
00:10:19
Shawn
going on guys? you doing?
00:10:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
good good we're doing good yeah a couple days now couple days it will be a long time no see now because now we don't all see each other till storks right april couple months couple months oh so patty first of all awesome job by you your dad uh the whole team there that was that was a hell of an event dude that for a year two you guys really made some massive leaps
00:10:22
RICK JAMES
Doing well.
00:10:23
Patty Salmon
Long time no see.
00:10:23
RICK JAMES
Doing well.
00:10:30
Patty Salmon
I know.
00:10:34
Patty Salmon
Yeah, that's the first one.
00:10:35
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:10:51
RICK JAMES
Yeah, that was really good.
00:10:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
I thought it was great.
00:10:53
Robert
It was good.
00:10:54
Patty Salmon
That's good to hear.
00:10:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
And the, and then the attendance reflected it. Didn't you like more than double last year?
00:10:59
Patty Salmon
Yeah, I went back and looked. We had exactly 80 people for a headcount this year, and last year we had 36. 36, so
00:11:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's not bad. That's really not bad.
00:11:09
Patty Salmon
not at all.
00:11:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
And you had what? A hundred signed up originally.
00:11:14
Patty Salmon
Yeah, I think it was 103 signed up, and then a couple companies couldn't come. um But yeah, I think we still got room for up to 100 people at least, though.
00:11:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, but for a free event that you're not charging any incentive for them to get their butts there, 80% attendance is pretty good out of who registered.
00:11:32
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:11:32
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:11:33
Patty Salmon
Yeah. that That's ah for a free event. That's always the the hardest thing I'm finding is how many people you actually, you actually plan on?
00:11:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, they got no skin in the game.
00:11:42
Patty Salmon
Right. Right. But we, we like having it be a free event. So see how long we can keep it that way.
00:11:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know You'll learn your list. You'll learn who always signs up and then doesn't show, comes up with the excuse the day before, you know, why I can't be there.
00:11:53
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:11:57
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:11:57
RICK JAMES
Billy Moore.
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Patty Salmon
I think when I, I was going through
00:11:58
RICK JAMES
Billy Moore.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
We know who they are. but
00:12:02
RICK JAMES
Billy.
00:12:02
Patty Salmon
I was going to call him out, but yeah, building more
00:12:03
RICK JAMES
I'm calling you out, Billy.
00:12:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:12:05
RICK JAMES
I'm calling Billy out.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
i wasn't going to say it.
00:12:05
RICK JAMES
I don't have problem calling him out.
00:12:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
but It wasn't just Billy.
00:12:08
Patty Salmon
more.
00:12:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
but Somebody else didn't show either.
00:12:10
Patty Salmon
Mr. Man, two years in a row.
00:12:11
RICK JAMES
Yeah, where's Anthony Mann?
00:12:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Where was Anthony?
00:12:13
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:12:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh my God.
00:12:15
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:12:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
We're just kidding, boys. Yeah. um But, dude, I thought it was great, man. I really, ah from last year, what it was to this year, it was like a totally different event.
00:12:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, well well done.
00:12:29
Patty Salmon
Good, good. That's what we were aiming for. So hopefully we'll ah keep improving as from year to year.
00:12:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very well done.
00:12:36
Patty Salmon
But sounded like everybody had a good time, so glad to hear that.
00:12:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, so let's go around and we'll we'll give Patty some feedback here, starting with the check-in and breakfast.
00:12:41
RICK JAMES
so
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The SnowJobs Podcast
What everybody think of that? Jay?
00:12:50
RICK JAMES
I thought it was good. It was easy, obviously, like most them are, but yeah, it was good. he had i mean you had your coffee, if everybody in but drinks coffee, and then I think your sister made bunch banana bread and rolls and stuff.
00:13:06
RICK JAMES
That stuff was really good. So yeah, no, it was...
00:13:07
Patty Salmon
Yep.
00:13:08
Robert
Thank you.
00:13:08
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:13:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Is that her baking company?
00:13:11
Patty Salmon
Yeah. So she, uh, she has a full-time job as well as, um, two young kids at home. And, and as a part-time gig, she started a at home cottage bakery, I believe is how it's licensed in Massachusetts.
00:13:23
Patty Salmon
And, uh, she's killing it. She's doing very, very well.
00:13:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, shit.
00:13:27
Patty Salmon
It's becoming full-time slowly.
00:13:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that stuff was all great.
00:13:30
RICK JAMES
She had a little microwave though so I could warm my cinnamon roll up a little bit.
00:13:33
Patty Salmon
All right. We'll put that on the list for next year.
00:13:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Get him a tasty bake oven.
00:13:36
RICK JAMES
ah All right. Yeah, yeah, little easy bake oven, yeah.
00:13:38
Patty Salmon
but Easy bake oven.
00:13:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah There you go. his's Easy make up.
00:13:42
RICK JAMES
Whatever it takes, just little, yeah.
00:13:43
Patty Salmon
it was a microwave in the break room right next to the hot dog machine.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:13:47
RICK JAMES
I don't be too much pre-Madonna, but I will be next time.
00:13:50
Patty Salmon
They'll be warm for when you arrive next year. Yep.
00:13:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God, dude.
00:13:52
RICK JAMES
I would appreciate that. Maybe a warm towel too, please.
00:13:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
I believe.
00:13:56
Patty Salmon
I asked her though, I was like, what time did you finish baking all this? She's like, i don't know, 4 a.m.
00:14:02
RICK JAMES
Coffee.
00:14:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
It was great. I mean, all the stuff was great.
00:14:03
Patty Salmon
So it was fresh.
00:14:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
The banana bread, I don't think there was a crumb left, and she made a lot of it, and that all went.
00:14:09
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:14:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah The cinnamon rolls, chocolate chip muffins, I believe, and there was one more that I don't remember what it was, but they were all outstanding.
00:14:18
Patty Salmon
Good.
00:14:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep, very, very good. What did you think, Robert? Chicken and snacks?
00:14:25
Robert
Chicken was good, quick, easy, simple, and snacks were delicious.
00:14:26
RICK JAMES
of
00:14:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:14:29
Robert
Cinnamon rolls, i had probably way too many.
00:14:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think we all did.
00:14:35
RICK JAMES
How about the coffee?
00:14:36
Robert
Yeah.
00:14:36
RICK JAMES
Was the coffee good for you?
00:14:38
Robert
Yeah, coffee was good. The water was good, too. There was a lot of water.
00:14:41
RICK JAMES
Water?
00:14:42
Robert
lot of water.
00:14:43
RICK JAMES
What's the water?
00:14:44
Robert
Water.
00:14:44
RICK JAMES
What did the water taste like? Did it taste like water?
00:14:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God.
00:14:48
Robert
Tastes like water.
00:14:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
And now we go to our the Snow Jobs official food critic, Sean.
00:14:58
Patty Salmon
Ron.
00:14:59
Shawn
Ron DiVabenzo had an easy check-in.
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The SnowJobs Podcast
Ron DiMomenzo.
00:15:02
Shawn
um but i i believe it or not did not have any snacks.
00:15:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
How were the snacks? Were they up to your standards?
00:15:09
Shawn
I didn't have any.
00:15:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
What?
00:15:11
Shawn
I didn't get the memo that they were outrageously good. And I also was not hungry. I just had some coffee.
00:15:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, okay.
00:15:19
Patty Salmon
Not hungry.
00:15:20
Shawn
Yeah, I know.
00:15:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, but that's a lie.
00:15:21
Robert
Do you have any water?
00:15:21
RICK JAMES
Jesus, right?
00:15:22
Shawn
Can you believe it? I guess fishing all night and then come straight to the event.
00:15:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
The first lie of the show right there.
00:15:25
RICK JAMES
Salt water.
00:15:27
Shawn
I was kind of dead.
00:15:30
RICK JAMES
He's lying his wife's next to him.
00:15:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes, yeah.
00:15:34
RICK JAMES
Almost on my diet, honey. i didn't eat any snacks.
00:15:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
right ah oh my god you're so good
00:15:40
Shawn
I did not. I had like 10 plates of food for lunch and ah dinner, but breakfast I did not have. but
00:15:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh man yeah no it was uh it was great uh i like the new parking area which is going to be a building right all right so next year when the building goes up
00:15:55
Patty Salmon
Yeah, it was a very expensive parking area.
00:15:59
RICK JAMES
Very expensive parking.
00:16:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, very expensive. Right now, it's an expensive parking area. Next year, when the building is up, what where are you going to park now?
00:16:09
RICK JAMES
Inside.
00:16:09
Patty Salmon
Um, yeah, that's going to be one of the difficulties. I think one, one thing that would help doing, keeping it this time of year, last year, I believe we did it, um, in, in March, uh, or for May, one of them.
00:16:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
The spring.
00:16:19
RICK JAMES
May.
00:16:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, you had mulch all over the place.
00:16:23
Patty Salmon
But, uh, We don't have all our mulch piles. or This time of year, all the mulch is pretty much gone. So we could probably still fit everybody down below.
00:16:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:16:31
Patty Salmon
We just have to play a little bit of Tetris.
00:16:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very
00:16:34
Patty Salmon
But we'll make them fit. If not, we'll bust them in from somewhere.
00:16:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
<unk>ical So I like the um i liked the tent outside with the where we had the morning snacks and there were a bunch of high-top tables set up for guys to to eat and and talk, basically. And there was a lot of networking before the first speaker of the day. And then we went right into Jordan Smith, and he went right off the cuff. Nothing prepared this year. No PowerPoint. Just, you know, take it as it is.
00:17:05
Patty Salmon
Yeah, no PowerPoint. First time I've ever seen him do that, but I don't think that guy needs a PowerPoint, to be honest.
00:17:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, he's done it 600 times. If you don't have it committed to memory by now.
00:17:12
Patty Salmon
Right. Right.
00:17:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
But what everybody think of George did. I mean, we've all heard that. We've all heard that that liquids thing from him more than enough times.
00:17:23
RICK JAMES
it's
00:17:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
do We all know it by heart. But did we did anybody pick up anything new that they didn't know?
00:17:26
Robert
yeah
00:17:27
RICK JAMES
It's always good, but...
00:17:31
Robert
I did not.
00:17:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
OK. Jeremy.
00:17:36
RICK JAMES
It was that salt makes brine and you don't have you don't have to use have fire brine, just normal brine.
00:17:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh.
00:17:43
RICK JAMES
So that was kind of neat. So...
00:17:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
you do not have to agitate Brian every hour on the hour.
00:17:46
RICK JAMES
You don't have to i just take brine 24 hours a day and up the charge of your brine for no reason because people don't know how to make it.
Panel Discussion on Brine and Snow Management
00:17:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh my God. What about you, Sean?
00:18:00
Shawn
ah Yeah, ah I thought the the damage study that they did was really cool. I know I heard him talk about it, but this time I actually listened to the in-depth numbers and and that that place that he was plowing that came out with their janitorial costs for the year compared to the year prior with the salt compared to the brine was actually very interesting.
00:18:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, it was.
00:18:25
RICK JAMES
Yeah. What do you think your spots would be if those were that?
00:18:30
Shawn
hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. believe Believe it or not, as we were there, i got a call from one of my, uh, complexes that we do.
00:18:36
Patty Salmon
you
00:18:39
Shawn
and they were like, ah, you know, what can we do about the salt on the second floor? And he's a high, you know, on the stairs. I'm like, there's really nothing. Cause we can't do Brian. but so And, uh,
00:18:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
you're slinging You're slinging salt so hard at going into the second floor.
00:18:54
Shawn
No, there are the steps going up to the second story of these apartments that we do. We're complaining. and I'm like, there's really nothing I can do. But I'm at a brine seminar today.
00:19:07
Shawn
So I'm trying to pick up ways how to make your property safer. And gave the whole spiel.
00:19:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, you should call him back and be like, hey, so I have a solution. We can go to Brian. It's going to cost you an extra $150,000.
00:19:17
Shawn
Sounds good to me. I like that.
00:19:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
There you go. You got to sell it.
00:19:21
RICK JAMES
Did you tell them that while the bright side, your stairs aren't slippery on the way up to the second floor?
00:19:28
Patty Salmon
lots of traction.
00:19:29
Shawn
There's a lot of traction.
00:19:29
RICK JAMES
the
00:19:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
A lot of grit. lot of grit there. Oh, man. So anybody else on Jordan's thing?
00:19:41
Patty Salmon
now i
00:19:41
RICK JAMES
It's always good. It's always good refresher to hear all that stuff again. You know, you always seem to pick up something you didn't catch, you know.
00:19:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
It is.
00:19:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
00:19:49
RICK JAMES
A lot of good questions and answers from the group of guys, too, so.
00:19:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
I was going to say that. I was going to save that for the panel discussion. I was going to touch on that. There was a lot of not just engagement, but very educated engagement, like very educated questions, guys that you could tell. like The first couple of years you you heard the liquids like panel discussions or lectures and questions, like you could tell guys had never heard about it before and were just kind of like,
00:20:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
trying to get dip a toe in but now it's like you got like liquid scientists some of these places that guys have very very in-depth questions prepared that they've thought out so that's cool to see
00:20:29
Robert
I feel like...
00:20:29
Patty Salmon
Yeah, there was definitely some...
00:20:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
or
00:20:31
Robert
What's that, Pat?
00:20:32
RICK JAMES
Cool.
00:20:32
Robert
You're welcome.
00:20:32
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:20:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
one one at a time one at a time
00:20:33
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:20:33
Patty Salmon
I was just saying there was definitely some great and engagement on on both panels as you know as well as Jordan's.
00:20:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
What was the second panel? Did miss the panel?
00:20:42
Patty Salmon
Oh, we haven't gotten there yet.
00:20:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
all right.
00:20:44
Patty Salmon
the One panel, yeah.
00:20:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, I thought I was going to say that I missed him.
00:20:45
Patty Salmon
I meant both both liquid discussions, should I say.
00:20:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
I may may have missed the panel. Yeah. yeah So Jordan killed it again, as always. The liquid czar was, he was on point again. um And then we had a, we had a little break, right?
00:21:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
And more networking.
00:21:01
Patty Salmon
Yep. Yep.
00:21:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
And we reset the room and went into the panel discussion. Correct.
00:21:08
Patty Salmon
yep
00:21:09
Robert
Correct.
00:21:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then me and Jeremy kind of moderated that work in the crowd. And ah it was pretty good because we basically threatened them with, hey, if you guys don't ask questions, then we have some super boring ass questions prepared.
00:21:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
so ah So we gave everybody an opportunity and nobody chimed in. and All right, it's about to get freaking boring in here. And then we had nothing but questions. So it was good. The crowd came prepared. I think it just it takes that first guy that's brave enough to throw his hand up.
00:21:37
Patty Salmon
Yes.
00:21:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's like literally like junior high. it yeah You just you're dry the trying to try not to ah to not be one of the cool guys. So but the first guy that has the balls to ask the question that sets everything else in motion.
00:21:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then guys are like after that, what do we have 15, 18 questions? We had to stop. We cut it off.
00:21:58
RICK JAMES
Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
00:21:59
Patty Salmon
At least.
00:22:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was good. What ah did we, Robert, you were on the panel. um
00:22:04
Robert
Yes, I was.
00:22:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
What did you think of the questions?
00:22:09
Robert
I thought there um they getting more complex, like ah you had just and I was going to say when I interrupted Pat there was, I feel like now that there's a lot of lot more people are more aware of Brian and everything else, and I feel like that's why kind of there's a lot more in-depth questions than there ever used to be because, like you said in the beginning, like when I first heard Jordan talk, I was like, I have no idea what this is.
00:22:34
Robert
I don't know anything about it. you can't It was really hard to retain all that information at once. So i think um I think it was great.
00:22:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sure.
00:22:43
Robert
I think there is a lot of people that are – seems a lot more interested now. so
00:22:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Well, I think it's events like Northeast De-Icing Solutions has had two two days and two years now.
00:22:50
Robert
but
00:22:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
They've had a yearly day talking nothing but liquids. You got New Hampshire Salt Symposium, which is highly concentrated on liquids.
00:23:00
Patty Salmon
Thank you.
00:23:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think Sima even does a ah like a brine-type day or something somewhere in the Northeast. So, I mean, you have... all these grassroots one-day events that are focused on brine and promoting the use of brine and that's what's growing the i mean that's what's growing the interest that's what's growing the knowledge base so hats off to all the guys doing these events yeah been good what did you think of the quality of questions on anything anybody s stump you on anything because there was some very in-depth stuff
00:23:24
Robert
Yeah, it's awesome.
00:23:34
Robert
Not necessarily, i think, stumped, but just, I guess, not a lot of experience in some of the questions that people are asking. You know, like, we don't we don't have any sidewalk equipment that runs any type of brine sprayers or anything. So, other than that, I think it was all pretty good.
00:23:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
You did the opposite, right? you They always say start with sidewalks. You said no, fuck that. Give me like 10 acre lots right off the bat.
00:24:00
Robert
Yeah, pretty much.
00:24:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:24:02
Robert
Oh, yeah. but true That is true fashion. And the question of, you know, ah you have all these struggles and everything, like what makes you keep going?
00:24:07
RICK JAMES
Send standard. and
00:24:12
Robert
And it's like you're kind of pretty much too far invested. that you can't
00:24:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, you're pot committed.
00:24:17
Patty Salmon
yeah
00:24:18
Robert
You can't possibly pull pull out of it now.
00:24:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, this wasn't four grand down on the table like but where you could say, ah, fuck it. It don't work.
00:24:29
Robert
It works. It's just, it's difficult logistically getting established.
00:24:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. Oh, I remember. I remember the phone calls.
00:24:39
Patty Salmon
for sure
00:24:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
so I like Robert could have wrote a book on like all the, I wish I knew this. I wish I thought of this. i wish I did that. Like, but that's the information that helps guys, you know, getting that kind of info out there.
00:24:49
RICK JAMES
You hung in there.
00:24:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
Right.
00:24:53
Patty Salmon
Yeah, and that's kind of the whole idea behind this whole thing. We went ass backwards too. Our first experience was liquids as we took a seven a half acre property with two miles worth sidewalks and made it 100% liquids first go around, which I did not recommend. Do not do that.
00:25:10
Patty Salmon
But yeah, there was a big learning curve.
00:25:10
RICK JAMES
Sure.
00:25:13
Patty Salmon
So events like this are kind of the idea behind helping people out with stuff like that.
00:25:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
100% Sean Oh, Rob
00:25:21
Robert
Yeah, but the thing is, so the thing is though, is is if you dive in headfirst and you do it like you just said, Pat, or the way that I did it is you you can't fail and you can't scrap the whole entire plan because that is your only way forwards.
00:25:37
Patty Salmon
Right, yeah, you're committed.
00:25:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, you've spent too much money to go backward Yeah
00:25:39
Patty Salmon
You have to learn it.
00:25:42
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:25:42
Robert
Yeah. Yeah, but there's also something to say about that, too, though. Yeah. the spending money aspect, but like diving headfirst into it too.
00:25:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes. Yes. No, I agree with that. I think that if you're going to do it, that's probably a good thing that it's so expensive that you have to go all the way. You can't, you know, you can't half ass it.
00:26:02
Robert
Yeah.
00:26:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
You can't just be a little in. So I think that's probably a good thing then. ah You know, I was impressed um when there were guys that, like when we had a couple seconds that nobody was throwing their hand up, ah Jeremy had some really good questions, like pre-loaded, ready to shoot.
00:26:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
So I was kind of, I kind of went through some questions in my head that morning, but Jay had some really good questions. I can't remember them right now, but I remember when he was asking them, I'm like, man,
00:26:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
the young man did his homework on today. though He was ready for this.
00:26:38
Robert
on fire.
00:26:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
You did.
00:26:38
RICK JAMES
I shoot from the hip, buddy. That's what I do best. Shoot from the hip.
00:26:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it. you But you know what? They were good shots. They were good shots.
00:26:45
RICK JAMES
The EZR. The EZR. Yeah.
00:26:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
They were accurate.
00:26:46
RICK JAMES
they use here
00:26:48
Robert
I'm a fucking boss.
00:26:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
What about you, Sean? What did you think of the panel? Were you even at the panel?
00:26:53
Shawn
oh
00:26:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Or was was that the period of time you were snoring in your car?
00:26:54
Shawn
Yeah.
00:26:57
Shawn
No, no. It was after the panel.
00:27:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
00:27:00
Shawn
The panel was the panel was good. i'll I'll never ask a question in person. I just i can't do it. As crazy as that sounds, I don't know.
00:27:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Why?
00:27:08
Shawn
I just can't do it.
00:27:09
Patty Salmon
We'll get a text line next year, hotline.
00:27:10
Shawn
Yeah.
00:27:11
RICK JAMES
ah Oh, yeah, like Jordan?
00:27:12
Shawn
Yeah, you need you need a question.
00:27:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
are you kidding me?
00:27:13
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:27:13
Shawn
Yeah, I don't do good with people too many people looking at
00:27:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh my God.
00:27:17
Shawn
I could do like four or five people looking at me. I'll be a total idiot. As soon as more than four or five people look at me, yeah I'm done.
00:27:27
RICK JAMES
Done.
00:27:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're Ron Devin Benzo. You have none. You know come on, bro.
00:27:31
Shawn
I know.
00:27:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
you're You're a favorite of the masses.
00:27:32
RICK JAMES
Huh.
00:27:33
Shawn
that But no, the panel was good. The questions were awesome.
00:27:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
that's so funny
00:27:39
Shawn
Definitely a lot of good questions in there.
00:27:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah and i think i think what you did pat was actually pretty genius i i think by telling guys if you want to be entered in the raffle to win the snow jobs nation gift bag there uh the backpack stuffed full of hats and stuff like that uh you said you got to ask a question to get a ticket i thought that was a little incentive that was good
00:27:44
RICK JAMES
i got it. Hmm.
00:28:04
Patty Salmon
Yeah, try to try to get people involved.
00:28:04
Shawn
That was great.
00:28:06
Patty Salmon
Try to get people like myself who maybe want that backpack but are too nervous to ask a question or even like Sean. So ah and I think the panel went awesome.
00:28:13
RICK JAMES
so
00:28:16
Patty Salmon
I felt bad cutting cutting it, telling you to wrap it up. um
00:28:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, lunch was there, man no Lunch was important.
00:28:20
Patty Salmon
It was, yeah, lunch is important, but slowly learning,
00:28:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
i was yeah ah ah
00:28:26
RICK JAMES
Oh,
00:28:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sean had to eat before he went to nap.
00:28:29
Patty Salmon
Yeah, being um only the second event and slowly learning how to keep schedules and and everything like that is definitely a learning curve. But I thought that the panel panel discussion went excellent.
00:28:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Panel was great and probably could have gone on for another half an hour easy.
00:28:44
Patty Salmon
Easily, easily.
Lunch and Networking
00:28:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
ye We probably could have even gotten Sean to ask a question.
00:28:51
RICK JAMES
Sean, do you serious question, Sean, do you think you will ever defend the brine or what?
00:28:57
Shawn
I used it already on the sidewalks with the Snow Raider. It's just, to me, it's just logistically impossible right now with the way I'm set up.
00:29:00
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
00:29:01
Robert
You
00:29:03
RICK JAMES
Logistics.
00:29:07
Shawn
And also the ah cost of it is kind of outrageous with the amount that I would need to get and equip and whatever. I'm spread out. It's not like I'm tight where I can be like, oh, yeah, i got a thousand-pound spray or whatever it's called.
00:29:21
Shawn
A thousand gallon sprayer.
00:29:22
RICK JAMES
Gallon?
00:29:23
Shawn
ah Yeah.
00:29:23
RICK JAMES
Gallon you mean?
00:29:24
Shawn
Yeah. I need like six of those things and it's just not...
00:29:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was a live recording.
00:29:40
RICK JAMES
oh Baby water buffalo.
00:29:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
but baby water buffalo i love them no i i i said that too and i gave you props like i understand like i'm in the same boat we're in the northeast we're in new york and new jersey and those two states have got to lead the country in the amount of frivolous lawsuits filed on slip falls i mean you drive on any highway and that's all you see in and out of new york city is the one eight hundred you know sue somebody billboards
00:30:11
RICK JAMES
or
00:30:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
So we have to put down, you know, you have to put you, you have to put it down. I get it. You know, and that, that's what my point was to that salt reduction lady. The, uh, the waterway woman that was at SNS was, you know, we're getting sued.
00:30:22
Patty Salmon
Thank you.
00:30:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
If we have a slip and fall, we have to put it down and getting guys to reduce it. You first got to stop the, the big abusers of it, which are the state DOTs and the local DOTs.
00:30:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
So I protected you. I defended you, bud.
00:30:42
Shawn
I know. I appreciate it. I thought I was going to go to jail after that event.
00:30:49
Shawn
Assault police going to crack down on me.
00:30:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
the salt police jesus
00:30:55
Shawn
I'd say the ICE police, but that's somebody else.
00:30:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh my god that's funny that's funny so the panel was great um thanks to all the guys that were that were asking such great questions uh thanks to the other members of the panel that was really easy um made jeremy and i's job very easy to moderate that for an hour um And then we went right into lunch, right?
00:31:19
Patty Salmon
Yep. yep
00:31:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
And now Sean will perk right up. He's going to be all about this. What'd you think of lunch, Sean? That
00:31:27
Shawn
Lunch was great. I had everything, multiple of everything.
00:31:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
was so funny.
00:31:34
RICK JAMES
multiple I think we got some video or some video and audio of that somewhere.
00:31:35
Shawn
Definitely ate enough to put myself in a food coma where I was then sleeping in my truck for a couple of hours. Yeah.
00:31:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah well
00:31:47
Shawn
yeah
00:31:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
We do.
00:31:53
RICK JAMES
ye Yeah, Patty put them down.
00:31:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
but she ah Pat, was that a different... Did you get those sandwiches from a different place than last year?
00:32:03
Patty Salmon
Yeah, yeah. So this we got ah the same caterer that did lunch did the after hours networking um appetizers too. It's a Depot Street Tavern out in Milford.
00:32:14
Patty Salmon
He does great that a great job.
00:32:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Those sandwiches were off the hook.
00:32:17
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:32:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
they They were phenomenal. I had the the what was it the breaded chicken cutlet, the ah bacon.
00:32:23
Patty Salmon
Yep.
00:32:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, it was. oh my God. that was That was over the top. That was great.
00:32:28
Robert
Thank you.
00:32:28
Patty Salmon
Bunch of good stuff.
00:32:29
Patty Salmon
Definitely needs to be labeled next year though. I wrote that down in my notes.
00:32:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, that would have helped.
00:32:34
Shawn
I agree with that, Pat.
00:32:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
That would have helped little bit.
00:32:37
Patty Salmon
Well, I walked out there towards the end to grab a sandwich, and I was like, yeah, that's why Sean ate so much.
00:32:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sean had to taste test everything.
00:32:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's it.
00:32:43
Shawn
I'm like, what is this? Okay, we'll try it anyway.
00:32:47
RICK JAMES
yeah you didn't know what he was missing. He didn't want to miss anything.
00:32:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
And then the ones he liked, he went back again. But no, there were, what, like seven or eight different sandwich choices? It was really, all of them were great. I tried two of them, and they were both outstanding.
00:33:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
um What about you, Jay? What'd you like?
00:33:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah, I had a couple sandwiches, I think it was. But yeah, they were good. Really good. you guys you like You guys like your sandwiches out there. so
00:33:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah. That's, yeah, Northeastern.
00:33:14
Robert
ah You don't eat sandwiches in North Dakota.
00:33:16
Shawn
sandwiches.
00:33:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
They don't have sandwiches in North Dakota.
00:33:17
RICK JAMES
yeah Peanut butter and jelly is both exotic as we get here. Maybe Subway.
00:33:23
Patty Salmon
Maybe sub.
00:33:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes. Jersey Mike's is considered like high class eatery.
00:33:28
RICK JAMES
I've been to Jersey Mike's once in my life and i didn't think it was that good.
00:33:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah
00:33:31
RICK JAMES
so
00:33:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sorry. What is it Firehouse subs?
00:33:32
Shawn
It's way better than Subway.
00:33:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
What do you like?
00:33:33
RICK JAMES
Oh, youre yeah, that's where you fire. I've been in Firehouse probably twice, too. That's not good either.
00:33:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
What do you have out there then other than Subway?
00:33:38
RICK JAMES
so
00:33:41
RICK JAMES
Subway, Jimmy John's, which I don't really go to either. Oh, I usually just go to Subway.
00:33:46
Patty Salmon
Just subway.
00:33:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Quiznos.
00:33:48
Shawn
Subway is straight up trash. They all closed down by me. That's how you know they're bad. Like, Subway is not even around anymore.
00:33:53
Robert
okay
00:33:53
RICK JAMES
Well, it's like a five-star restaurant here, Sean.
00:33:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
There goes our Subway sponsorship.
00:33:57
RICK JAMES
So...
00:33:57
Shawn
but ah
00:34:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh Jesus, that's funny.
00:34:06
RICK JAMES
No, was a really good lunch.
00:34:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah Those are really good sandwiches.
00:34:08
RICK JAMES
So, yeah, I enjoyed it.
00:34:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I give that a ah five star there, Patty, on the lunch choices. Those were great.
00:34:15
Patty Salmon
Good. Good.
00:34:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Um, and then, then we kinda, at least myself, we, I went off the rails a little bit after lunch. Cause after lunch, we got into what the insurance guy and the lawyer
Insurance and Legal Panel: Slip-and-Fall Liabilities
00:34:29
Patty Salmon
Yeah, so...
00:34:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
speaking.
00:34:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
And I missed that completely. Cause we were still talking from lunch.
00:34:34
Patty Salmon
Yeah, i I was not in on that either. I don't... Robert, you didn't sit in on that, did you?
00:34:40
Robert
No, I didn't. I kind of didn't even know what it was going on. I was just kind of standing out after lunch talking, and then they walked out and realized I missed it.
00:34:49
Patty Salmon
Yeah, so...
00:34:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, the very nice lady, the very nice lady ah from Northeast de-icing there.
00:34:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
I forget her name.
00:34:54
Patty Salmon
Lorraine...
00:34:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Forgive me. she was She went around and told everybody that they're going to kick back off and everything, but guys were in the middle. There were probably 15, 20 guys outside still having, you know, in the middle of in-depth conversations, and they just didn't budge, including myself.
00:35:07
Patty Salmon
Yeah, so I think what kind of happened with that is we were trying to make make the day a little longer, right?
00:35:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:35:16
Patty Salmon
You know, make it worth people's worthwhile for going out there. So we came up with the idea of snow insurance.
00:35:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sure. Mm-hmm.
00:35:21
Robert
Thank
00:35:22
Patty Salmon
So we had our snow insurance provider came out along with one of their lawyers who writes writes the language for snow insurance, do a panel.
00:35:32
Patty Salmon
I think kind of what happened is There was a decent amount of municipalities there. they They don't have much interest in it as well as some of the employees, and you know, not an owner like yourself or Rob or Sean really weren't interested in something like that. So when we did try to file everybody in there, I think a lot of people stayed out in the parking lot.
00:35:53
Patty Salmon
um So I think that's why some people didn't realize it was going on, but. Which was completely fine.
00:35:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
I actually wanted to hear it. I just couldn't break away from the conversation.
00:36:02
Patty Salmon
Right.
00:36:03
Shawn
i I made it to that.
00:36:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, you did not.
00:36:06
Shawn
Yes, I did.
00:36:07
RICK JAMES
Yeah, he did.
00:36:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
You did. All right.
00:36:08
Shawn
Yeah. Yeah, I was in there.
00:36:09
Patty Salmon
How was it?
00:36:09
Shawn
It was very, very good.
00:36:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Then how was it?
00:36:12
Shawn
It was very good. ah They gave out a nice pamphlet ah with it was ah two pages, not really a pamphlet. But of things that should be in a contract, things that you should be doing to avoid slip and falls.
00:36:24
Shawn
They went over wording. They went over a bunch of things. There was a bunch of good questions asked. It was very informative for anybody that was actually looking for any kind of insurance-related things.
00:36:36
Shawn
It was actually really good. They're very educated insurance company. So if you're in that area and you're looking for snow insurance for an underwriter that knows their the thing, I would say call them up, definitely.
00:36:48
Shawn
And they did say that they insure all different states all the South Carolina, but for snow, I think they try to focus in mass because they know the mass loss.
00:36:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Who were they, Pat?
00:36:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah That makes sense.
00:36:59
Patty Salmon
yeah Yeah, that was Gaudette Insurance. They're out of Whitesville, Massachusetts.
00:37:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:37:05
Patty Salmon
So...
00:37:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sean, send me that pamphlet.
00:37:09
Shawn
I will do. Yeah, it's just too it's just a front and back of ah you know a printed out page, but it's it's good.
00:37:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
I won't...
00:37:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, no, whatever they're putting out, I want to see it. that' That's probably great information for guys.
00:37:19
Patty Salmon
Yeah, I popped in and out of it. There was a ah bunch of decent questions from what I kind of saw when I kept popping in and out. I know that Jordan himself even asked a question or two, so there had to have been something decent in there.
00:37:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:37:33
Patty Salmon
so um And even she did – don't quote me on this, but that show we went to for the Siam Assault Symposium in New Hampshire there, Steve, New Hampshire Green Snow Pro, I i believe the big thing with that show – when you're green snow pro certified, you get some kind of reduced liability from the state.
00:37:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes.
00:37:56
Patty Salmon
And, um, I was talking to Amanda from Gaudette Insurance at the end of it, and I was telling her about that.
00:37:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Mm-hmm.
00:38:01
Patty Salmon
And, um, she's going to look into that, look into that a decent amount, see if it's something can kind of get rolling in mass or something like that to help snow guys out. So
00:38:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I mean, that's the only way you're going to get guys to use less salt, offer them less liability.
00:38:15
Patty Salmon
yeah.
00:38:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
hundred percent 100%. I'll put down no salt if you give me no liability. yeah No problem.
00:38:21
Patty Salmon
Absolutely.
00:38:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
but Done. But, yeah, that's, ah i'm I'm sorry I missed that, actually. I just, ah again, you get caught between being polite and and what you want to do.
00:38:35
Patty Salmon
Right.
00:38:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
so um
00:38:38
Shawn
Well, when you're famous like you guys, you know, whatever. Yep.
00:38:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
You're all famous. You're all in the same boat, dude.
00:38:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
ron d even benzo is a cult hero now oh man so then
Live Edge Plows Benefits Discussion
00:38:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
after the insurance lecture sean went to sleep and then what did we do then then we had the fun part then we had the whole metal plus arctic debate rear its head again we had the live edge technology uh discussion which absolutely makes sense you want to use less salt
00:38:56
Shawn
yep
00:39:05
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah.
00:39:05
Patty Salmon
We did.
00:39:08
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:39:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
use a live edge plow no matter what the brand 100 accurate statement and that's where the agreement will end you know that's really it right like live edges will definitely help you use less salt and they work very well in conjunction with brine as well um so that was what i gathered from that and you know then uh it kind of it didn't get too off the rails
00:39:24
Robert
Thank you.
00:39:33
RICK JAMES
right
00:39:43
RICK JAMES
No, it's civilized.
00:39:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
we We really, yeah, we were kind of still full from lunch, I think, and we didn't really engage too much.
00:39:52
RICK JAMES
It's the same old same old same old story.
00:39:52
The SnowJobs Podcast
couple shots here and there.
00:39:55
RICK JAMES
Yeah, so.
00:39:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
It is. It is. Bottom line, though, Live Edge is definitely a step up to use, and it's ah it's a it's a ah ah gate to use less salt. It definitely is. I mean, the Artics, what do they say, 30% less salt?
00:40:10
RICK JAMES
Yeah, but but
00:40:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think they advertise like 30.
00:40:11
Patty Salmon
kind like stuff.
00:40:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think it's more... Honestly, I think we found it to actually be more than that from before Arctic to after.
00:40:16
RICK JAMES
But honestly, what was talked about on that whole deal too is out there, and you guys get the warmer temps, even a Pro-Tech Railroad ra works good, you know, squeegee.
00:40:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. Yeah, as long as you don't...
00:40:27
RICK JAMES
You got the right snow. Yeah,
00:40:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
It would work as long as you don't have um a lot of traffic. If you have a lot of vehicular traffic packing it down, um then those don't work that great.
00:40:36
RICK JAMES
you're going to get that.
00:40:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Then you need salt to burn that up. But if you're in a lot that's virgin that hasn't been touched yet by a car and you're just plowing it, yeah. I mean, if you have unfrozen pavement, the rubber edge will work.
00:40:48
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:40:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
And pretty much any plow at that point will work.
00:40:51
Shawn
yep Yeah, the only thing with rubber in this area is if you don't salt it fast enough when we get that crashing temperature, which doesn't happen all the time, but it happened to me a couple years ago, and it flash froze on me, and I said, never again.
00:41:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Happened last year.
00:41:05
Shawn
i'm just going, got to get Artix because, or any kind of metal edge because just can't deal with that.
00:41:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:41:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Happened last year.
00:41:13
RICK JAMES
Yeah, you don't want to put more salt down.
00:41:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
We had that. the What's that?
00:41:17
RICK JAMES
Sean doesn't want to put more salt down, so.
00:41:19
Patty Salmon
no
00:41:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
jesus But yeah, that was, I thought that was a, that was smart to do that. Actually, Patty. Yeah. with in conjunction with the liquids using a live edge plow and hearing the benefits of live edge plows. Cause I think a lot of, I think a lot of guys out there might look at them and just see the price tag and be like, it's not my, there's no way, there's no way I'm doing that. But when, when you actually sit them down and you you go over numbers of listen, how much salt are you putting down on, on lots right now?
00:41:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
What if you could reduce that cost by 30%, know, you know
00:41:54
Patty Salmon
Ed's up quick.
00:41:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah yeah you're basically paying for that plow in a year or less you know for us i think our first arctic paid for itself like halfway through that first season because we had a good season the first arctic we ever bought that year and uh that thing was due by the end of the winter we were trying to get that that one machine to do as many lots as we could so just like no hey you know you go down the street they're gonna handle this with the arctic
00:42:16
Patty Salmon
Yep.
00:42:22
Patty Salmon
Yeah, besides our truck plows, we do not run anything that's not live edge.
00:42:22
RICK JAMES
What did you
00:42:26
Patty Salmon
Well, we do run two rubber edge pushers still, but we we do to five schools in town, and we do not salt them. So at the end of the day, I really don't care how much our pack is left in the parking lot, not to sound bad or anything, but yeah.
00:42:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:42:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:42:46
Patty Salmon
but yeah
00:42:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sean, I was, I was really, Oh, go ahead, Jay.
00:42:48
RICK JAMES
use? There...
00:42:51
RICK JAMES
I was just going to say, Patty, I did see that one plow there, that big yellow one. There's something behind it i'm ah on the ground.
00:42:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. I saw you trying to hide the liquid.
00:42:58
RICK JAMES
but What was that liquid on the ground behind that metal plus that you had on there?
00:43:02
Patty Salmon
It's just a little bit of dried brine.
00:43:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
a
00:43:02
RICK JAMES
Was there a little oil slick there?
00:43:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, but he tried to put a loader tire on the pool.
00:43:06
RICK JAMES
Is that what I saw? Did you try to put the wheel loader on? I mean, you're not going to sneak that past me there, bud.
00:43:12
Patty Salmon
No, no, we, uh, yeah, we've had that plow since 2015. It has never had a leak in, uh, I, I put it there the night before and, uh, the afternoon before and when before we went to dinner to, to, to
00:43:18
RICK JAMES
Oh, never. Nope.
00:43:27
Patty Salmon
to hang out with all you guys. I walked over and saw a big puddle underneath. I said, I guess they knew the Arctic boys were coming.
00:43:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
has never happened before.
00:43:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
That should be on the Metal Plus t-shirt. That has never happened before.
00:43:37
RICK JAMES
it Never happened before.
00:43:37
Patty Salmon
Never done it before.
00:43:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nectar. Okay.
00:43:40
Patty Salmon
Actually, that one's that one's on that one's on Stooky.
00:43:40
Shawn
i'm
00:43:43
Patty Salmon
There was a bad O-ring on the Stooky connector. It's not even metal blast, but...
00:43:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
sure
00:43:46
RICK JAMES
so
00:43:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
la nectar
00:43:49
Shawn
I'm starting to think that every time Steve and Jeremy come into into town, they bring they bring little wrenches and loosen up the fittings.
00:43:50
Patty Salmon
i can i
00:43:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:43:56
Patty Salmon
I'm telling you...
00:43:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah. We come in stealth 24 hours early and sneak in there.
00:43:57
Shawn
It's crazy. Yeah.
00:43:59
RICK JAMES
o
00:44:01
Patty Salmon
It made me laugh.
00:44:01
RICK JAMES
You know, you never know, Sean.
00:44:02
Patty Salmon
I'm standing over there. know.
00:44:03
RICK JAMES
You never know.
00:44:03
Shawn
These guys never have leaks.
00:44:04
RICK JAMES
You never know.
00:44:05
Shawn
All of a sudden, these guys are in the area. It's leaking. That's insane.
00:44:08
Patty Salmon
i know
00:44:09
Shawn
They're criminals.
00:44:10
RICK JAMES
Nobody ever has a leak. Nobody ever has a leak until they have a leak. Oh,
00:44:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sean, i i was I wish you were in the hotel room, though, because you, when matt but me and Matt got into and Jay kind of stayed out of it largely, which is kind of would kind of weird.
00:44:22
RICK JAMES
boy.
00:44:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
He just kind of let me Matt go at it.
00:44:28
RICK JAMES
I was just watching the show.
00:44:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
But, Sean, you you run Artix and you run Metal Plus, right?
00:44:32
RICK JAMES
I know what I know, and and don't need to.
00:44:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Didn't you have, ah ah didn you have a like, a live box or something?
00:44:39
Shawn
Yeah, I got a live box.
00:44:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
You didn't have any of the wing plows, though, right?
00:44:42
Shawn
No.
00:44:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay, so which scrape better the Arctic? I'm gonna put you on the spot here. Which scrape better in your opinion the Arctic or the or the live box?
00:44:51
Shawn
Oh, um,
00:44:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Be honest. I don't care either their way. I'm just trying to settle this argument here.
00:44:57
Shawn
I'm going to say, I don't, I don't really know.
00:44:58
RICK JAMES
It's never going to settled.
00:45:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Was it closed?
00:45:01
Shawn
I've, it It is close. ah the the problem with The problem with the metal plus, honestly, is it was just hard for the operators to use because you got to line it up to be perfect.
00:45:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:45:10
Shawn
And the shoes wore down quick.
00:45:11
Robert
Yeah, I agree.
00:45:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Robert is nodding his head emphatically.
00:45:13
Patty Salmon
Thank you.
00:45:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
I forgot, Robert.
00:45:14
Shawn
So.
00:45:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
I forgot you have both, too.
00:45:17
Shawn
So the the Arctic, you kind of just set it and forget it.
00:45:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, OK.
00:45:20
Shawn
Very little bit of adjustment, if any. And it just scrapes great. The metal plus, if you don't set it perfectly, it doesn't scrape perfect and it doesn't wear perfect. And, you know, it's just not as easy to to use.
00:45:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
You concur with that, Robert?
00:45:34
RICK JAMES
Put that to bed.
00:45:36
Robert
yeah i agree It's harder to set it. It's hard. It's not like an Arctic. You kind of set it and forget it. And like I've said before, too, is the the metal plus doesn't actually like roll snow. It just kind of like holds it inside the box.
00:45:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Whoa, whoa, who whoa, who whoa, whoa.
00:45:51
RICK JAMES
whoa, whoa.
00:45:53
Patty Salmon
Uh-oh.
00:45:53
Shawn
that that is very That is very true.
00:45:54
Patty Salmon
but
00:45:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Whoa.
00:45:56
RICK JAMES
You can't.
00:45:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Are you telling me you can roll snow with the Arctic in the Northeast with the heavy wet stuff?
00:45:56
Shawn
But according to Matt.
00:45:56
RICK JAMES
you
00:45:58
Shawn
but the
00:46:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Because Matt Young is claiming you can't roll snow.
00:46:03
Patty Salmon
The concrete.
00:46:05
RICK JAMES
No.
00:46:05
Robert
Does Matt have an Arctic?
00:46:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
No.
00:46:08
RICK JAMES
No.
00:46:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Never used one.
00:46:09
RICK JAMES
No.
00:46:09
Robert
so
00:46:09
Shawn
He couldn't even find a video online of it rolling snow.
00:46:12
Robert
Where the fuck does that statement come from?
00:46:12
Shawn
but
00:46:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
the The problem was i have videos all day long. We had no Wi-Fi in the hotel, so I could not send him the videos of the Arctic's rolling the snow.
00:46:26
Robert
Yeah.
00:46:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
But then I posted them.
00:46:26
Robert
oh
00:46:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
I posted them the next day when we got home and had Wi-Fi and crickets. Absolute crickets. Nothing to say.
00:46:34
Patty Salmon
Too much Kool-Aid for Maddie muscles.
00:46:34
RICK JAMES
oh
00:46:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
he went yeah He went hardcore left really quick.
00:46:37
RICK JAMES
Huh.
00:46:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
I don't know why. I don't know what happened. But yeah, he, uh, but yeah, Robert, I remember you telling me and correct me if I'm wrong, but you were telling me the machine had a much harder time pushing the metal plus box. Correct.
00:46:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
Do I remember that correctly?
00:46:54
Robert
yeah Yeah, because we had we had two JCB 409 side-by-side.
00:46:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
Same machine.
00:47:02
Robert
One had a 10.5 Arctic, one has a 12-foot live box Metal Plus, and the live box Metal Plus will just you know stop halfway through the run, and you've got to back up, take half of the pile, and then hopefully be able to get to you.
00:47:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
You think it's because of the extra two feet of box?
00:47:19
Robert
No, no way.
00:47:22
RICK JAMES
How about the fuel? Did one use a little more fuel than the other?
00:47:26
Robert
Oh, yes. Much more fuel.
00:47:29
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
00:47:30
Robert
Like, I think I want to say, to be honest, I bet you was just about double the amount of fuel that that the Arctic did.
00:47:37
RICK JAMES
I've been saying that for years.
00:47:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:47:39
RICK JAMES
been saying that for years.
00:47:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, I approved that. but Didn't I prove that with David?
00:47:43
RICK JAMES
Yeah, so have I.
00:47:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Didn't I make David Blazik pay attention to it? And he fucking finally said, I never paid attention to that before, but holy shit. When he actually did this ah the study side by side, I'm pretty sure that was David.
00:47:57
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:47:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
um But yeah, that I just wanted to, I want to, you, I forgot that you have both to Robert. So i wanted to get that out there. And in response to Matt's deatribe,
00:48:11
Patty Salmon
Okay.
00:48:12
Robert
but mean I'm not going to say that, you know, that live box doesn't scrape because it does.
00:48:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, they're great. They're absolutely great.
00:48:17
RICK JAMES
No.
00:48:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
They're great.
00:48:18
RICK JAMES
Nobody said that they don't.
00:48:18
Robert
It does, but an Arctic is easier to use.
00:48:20
RICK JAMES
Well, I think.
00:48:21
Robert
It scrapes better. It, you know, the rolling of the snow helps you kind of move forward. So, i mean, clearly.
00:48:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Never, never proven. it does It's never been proven that it rolls snow, apparently, in the Northeast.
00:48:34
Robert
I'll take a video.
00:48:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
I already sent him three videos.
00:48:36
RICK JAMES
but
00:48:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
There was no response. No response. But yeah, I don't know. I think I think we have audio of of that argument, at least what I responded to him with.
00:48:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man.
00:49:00
RICK JAMES
um I recall that.
00:49:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, I don't think I said it so nicely. Like, you're out of your fucking mind, dude. But, oh, you know what? Let's hit some commercials real quick and we'll ah we'll keep going. I want to get these done.
00:50:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, we're back. So moral of that story, we're not going to get back into it but moral of that story is that in this day and age, you should be looking at live edge technology.
Post-Event Activities and Networking
00:50:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Pretty much every manufacturer out there now that makes equipment plows has some form of a live edge technology.
00:50:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Um, some are better than others. Some travel farther than others up and down, but they all have something that will scrape cleaner and allow you to use less salt, which by then it makes you more efficient and you're, you're making more money.
00:50:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
So definitely in this day and age, you should be looking at live edge technology guys. And it's not as costly as you think it is because if you factor what you can save in salt, it'll offset the additional cost over a regular rigid edge pusher.
00:50:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh, thought about cover that.
00:50:52
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:50:53
Patty Salmon
Yes, sir.
00:50:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right. So after the live edge, um, that was kind of it, right? For the, for the planned entertainment.
00:51:02
Patty Salmon
Yeah, pretty much. We just did a let people check out all the plows that were set up. Did a yeah some demos on the spray equipment. made Made a couple batches of brine for for people who who stuck around and and checked that out.
00:51:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
You had guys making Brian for you, teaching teaching them, quote unquote, teaching them so you can fill your tanks again.
00:51:22
Patty Salmon
Yep. Yep. Yeah.
00:51:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Free labor, free labor.
00:51:25
Patty Salmon
Yeah. Which I had to do anyway, actually.
00:51:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
That was great.
00:51:28
Patty Salmon
We, uh, what's that?
00:51:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Smart. I said smart.
00:51:31
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:51:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very smart.
00:51:33
Patty Salmon
Yeah. So I made two, made two batches of brine, which we needed to do anyway. We actually, uh, we're supplying a local contractor doing a big, big bridge project of the mass pipe, 495 area, 17,000 gallons of brine for their crash cushions. So they don't freeze over the winter.
00:51:50
Patty Salmon
So I had to make Brian anyway, so it it worked out.
00:51:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh well don't worry that's gonna that's a what is what is that about a 24 year contract to do that because that project will be going long after i'm dead how long have they been working on that
00:51:54
RICK JAMES
Nice.
00:52:02
Patty Salmon
Yeah, it's about a year and a half now. It's a $5 billion dollars project. so
00:52:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah man that that all everything in massachusetts is torn up too not just pennsylvania
00:52:11
RICK JAMES
lot of brain.
00:52:15
Patty Salmon
Everything. It's horrible. I'm sure you went through downtown.
00:52:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, we didn't get any we didn't get any of that infrastructure money apparently in New York because New York is all right. The roads are fine. But Massachusetts and freaking Pennsylvania are torn the hell up.
00:52:28
Patty Salmon
New York is not fine. Driving 90 from Buffalo back home was absolutely brutal.
00:52:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm just saying not um'm i'm saying without construction zones everywhere.
00:52:36
Patty Salmon
Yeah. No, the Massachusetts State flower is just, you know, an orange cone.
00:52:42
RICK JAMES
Mrs. Rob.
00:52:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah that's great that's great so yeah so everybody made you brian and then they played with the plows uh and then hello sean's got a guest mrs sean is on camera um mrs ron
00:53:00
RICK JAMES
mrs rob
00:53:01
Patty Salmon
Mrs. Rahania.
00:53:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
But then after that, i actually i actually ended up leaving. I could not i did not stay for the ah the after hours. I wanted to get home. it was a long, long week, and I was working the next couple days, so it was my only opportunity to see the kids.
00:53:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
So I went home a little early. But tell me about the after hours, all you guys. How was it?
00:53:25
RICK JAMES
it was ah It was a nice ah little cocktail hour with some appetizers that were great and great conversations kept going on. Mikey Sanalicito made his presence, so we got to see him.
00:53:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
is he's from like what Vesalia landscaping or what what is the, what's the name of the company?
00:53:42
RICK JAMES
think... I don't know.
00:53:47
RICK JAMES
I can't recall. One team.
00:53:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
There you go. It was good to see Mikey.
00:53:51
RICK JAMES
so
00:53:53
Patty Salmon
Yep, always.
00:53:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
What kind of nerves did they have?
00:53:57
Patty Salmon
Um, I can't remember off the top of my head.
00:53:58
RICK JAMES
Stuffed mushrooms.
00:54:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Did they? Yeah. I knew that was coming.
00:54:02
RICK JAMES
i don't know.
00:54:03
Patty Salmon
Stuffed mushrooms, I think they had scallops wrapped in bacon.
00:54:06
RICK JAMES
theycon wrap skeuts bear mostly you Bacon bacon wrapped scallops are so good.
00:54:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Did they really?
00:54:08
Patty Salmon
Yep, some some egg rolls.
00:54:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
fuckers.
00:54:11
RICK JAMES
Oh, damn, those are good.
00:54:12
Patty Salmon
some ah Some pretzels.
00:54:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Fuck.
00:54:16
Patty Salmon
I think there was a few other things.
00:54:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Pretzels?
00:54:17
Patty Salmon
I think they were...
00:54:18
Shawn
They had some wings.
00:54:19
RICK JAMES
wings Wingies, wingies, wingies.
00:54:20
Patty Salmon
Yep.
00:54:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, Sean woke up. We're talking food again.
00:54:27
Patty Salmon
But no, I think that went well.
00:54:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh
00:54:28
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:54:29
Patty Salmon
And that was when I go to these events, my favorite thing is, you know, obviously you get a lot out of the educational portions, but my favorite thing is to network with other companies, different guys talk.
00:54:41
Patty Salmon
So that was one thing we really tried to incorporate, not only just the after hours, but by having those high top tables was
00:54:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:54:48
Patty Salmon
to promote little little small group conversations with people you might not have met or talked to before.
00:54:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
Awesome.
00:54:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
And you had them. You had them filled throughout the day.
00:54:58
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:54:59
Patty Salmon
Good.
00:55:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, it was great. No, you guys nailed it.
00:55:01
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:55:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm sorry now I missed the after hours thing that bacon wrap scallops.
00:55:07
Patty Salmon
and
00:55:08
Shawn
Yeah, the after hours was great.
00:55:08
RICK JAMES
Oh. Yeah.
00:55:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
the
00:55:10
Shawn
After I woke up, I woke up right in time for for the food to come out.
00:55:11
RICK JAMES
no
00:55:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sean gives two thumbs up. yeah Ready to eat again?
00:55:14
Patty Salmon
but
00:55:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:55:16
Patty Salmon
He said his alarm for the food.
00:55:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
He smelled the hors d'oeuvres.
00:55:21
Shawn
I didn't smell it because I can't breathe through my nose.
00:55:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's like a, he's like a bear.
00:55:22
Shawn
I snorted in. I was like...
00:55:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's like a bear.
00:55:25
Shawn
but but
00:55:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Comes out of the cave when he smells food.
00:55:28
Shawn
yeah
00:55:30
RICK JAMES
DJ ran up said, Sean, the food's here.
00:55:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
and Yes.
00:55:31
RICK JAMES
And then he got out of his pickup.
00:55:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
yes Comes out of hibernation to eat.
00:55:37
Shawn
I woke up. A lot of cars were already gone.
00:55:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Uh,
00:55:39
Shawn
Robert was robert left. He apparently videotaped me snoring.
00:55:44
Robert
laughter
00:55:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh my God. That was great.
00:55:50
RICK JAMES
Yeah, it was good.
00:55:50
Patty Salmon
That was a long snooze, too, because I saw you walking up towards your car at one point when I was on the phone. I was like, oh, he's getting something out of there. And I didn't see him again for another two or three three hours.
00:55:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:56:00
Shawn
Yeah, I was sleeping for a while.
00:56:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
He's getting a pillow. That's what he's getting. Getting a pillow out of there.
00:56:02
Patty Salmon
Huh.
00:56:03
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:56:04
Shawn
i was sleeping for a while I was up all night the night prior fishing. Went to work in the morning, so I was i was shot.
00:56:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Did you catch anything?
00:56:11
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:56:12
Shawn
No, I froze my balls off. It was freezing. i was in a wetsuit. It was 39 degrees in Connecticut, and it was miserable.
00:56:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
Did you go fishing after Patty's thing?
00:56:25
Shawn
I did. Two nights in a row. I did catch those nights, yes.
00:56:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
You catch anything?
00:56:29
Patty Salmon
what What town did you stay in, Sean?
00:56:32
Shawn
I ended up going to Newport.
00:56:35
Patty Salmon
I just wanted to hear you try and pronounce Worcester again.
00:56:38
Shawn
Yeah, Wookcaster, whatever the hell it's called.
00:56:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
shit. This is great.
00:56:44
RICK JAMES
woocaster
00:56:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah oh shit
00:56:49
RICK JAMES
ah
00:56:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
this is great Oh, man. But yeah, how long did the ah how long was everybody there for the after hours thing?
00:56:57
Patty Salmon
um
00:57:00
Patty Salmon
Jeremy, what time did you guys leave is kind of when it slowed down a little bit, you and Steve.
00:57:03
RICK JAMES
um when it really like seven eight seven seven thirty no
00:57:08
Patty Salmon
Yeah, that went on for a while, which is great.
00:57:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
I I was gone. I was home by then.
00:57:12
Patty Salmon
that's what That's what we wanted.
00:57:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
Good.
00:57:13
Patty Salmon
So, but yeah, I think we might have shut it down around 10. Obviously, there wasn't that many people there that late, but we still had a pretty decent crowd until 730, 8 o'clock.
00:57:24
RICK JAMES
Yeah. 30, 30, 20, 30.
00:57:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
How many people would you say stayed for after hours?
00:57:27
Patty Salmon
Um, 30-ish at the beginning, maybe.
00:57:29
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah. It was time.
00:57:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay. Cool.
00:57:32
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:57:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome, dude. That's a successful event.
00:57:35
Shawn
Yeah.
00:57:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Good for you.
00:57:35
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:57:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
You guys really killed it on year two.
00:57:39
Patty Salmon
Good. I'm glad everybody had a great time.
00:57:40
RICK JAMES
yeah it was a good time
00:57:41
Patty Salmon
Appreciate all you guys and Storm Equipment helping us out on everything.
00:57:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
No problem. No problem. Happy to do it. that's These one-day events is where it's at. This is where guys are learning. This is where guys are making you know introductions and and getting relationships that could actually help them.
00:57:57
The SnowJobs Podcast
So these one-day events are absolutely killing it. can't wait to Can't wait for the spring to start them up again. Maybe have a couple more even this year to go to.
00:58:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
That'll be good.
00:58:08
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
Reflections on Industry Events and Networking Value
00:58:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
So now that show season's over, ah what did we all think? what What was the favorite event for each year that you attended this spring, summer, fall?
00:58:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Anyone can go first.
00:58:23
RICK JAMES
um I would...
00:58:24
Patty Salmon
they ah They're all good.
00:58:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh.
00:58:26
Patty Salmon
Anytime we get the guys together is always a great time. Yeah. I think Syma's probably still the favorite event simply because, honestly, we just we're together for more days.
00:58:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:58:40
Patty Salmon
um you know would they they They do all the networking parties and events and and everything. So I think that that's the reason i I like that the most. You get less education out of it personally. but
00:58:54
RICK JAMES
Just multiple days with the crew. Yeah.
00:58:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Just multiple days.
00:58:56
Patty Salmon
Right.
00:58:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:58:57
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
00:58:58
RICK JAMES
ah Yeah. And Storks is always good because that's kind of kicks off the season. We haven't seen each other. You know, ah guys, a lot of guys haven't seen each other all winter.
00:59:04
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:59:06
RICK JAMES
So it's kind of nice to get back together. And, and you know, and Storks is always just a great event. So.
00:59:13
RICK JAMES
And Storm Day also.
00:59:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Robert.
00:59:16
Robert
I'd say storks and northeasty icing are my favorite. Just like kind of Jeremy said, kind of storks kicks things off. And northeasty icing I can drive to in a day, go to and go home on the same day, which is nice.
00:59:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. Sean.
00:59:31
Shawn
Yeah, um I think, like I said, all all the events are really good. ah They all have their ah differences. ah Storks definitely, for me, is one of the top tier ones.
00:59:45
Shawn
um Just the way that those guys do it over there, it's phenomenal. Their facility is great and everything about It's just a good day, but they're all good. I didn't hit Simon this year, but – or did I? No, i don't think I did. Yeah.
00:59:59
Shawn
But, yeah, they're they're all good.
00:59:59
Robert
Motherfucker, you...
01:00:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
What fuck is that?
01:00:00
Shawn
Sorry, I just had to throw i just had to throw my dog.
01:00:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
01:00:04
Shawn
um Yeah, so they're all good.
01:00:07
RICK JAMES
I think I was like, I also like storm day.
01:00:09
Shawn
Storks is definitely my favorite. that was This was my – Storm Day was fun.
01:00:11
RICK JAMES
Cause it gets you guys out here.
01:00:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know
01:00:13
Shawn
You know, going to Minnesota, I like seeing that state. It's nice over there. My first year going to Patty's event this year was a good event, definitely. Definitely glad I made the trip up. Last year I was on the cruise.
01:00:25
Shawn
Albeit I'd rather still be on the cruise than be at any kind of event. No offense, Patty. but it was ah
01:00:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
He does love the cruises.
01:00:32
Patty Salmon
None taken, bro.
01:00:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
24-hour food.
01:00:34
Shawn
yeah it But it was it was a great event. I'm ah glad I made it up this year, and I'm glad that you guys hosted it. I appreciate it.
01:00:43
Patty Salmon
Thank you. Appreciate you coming.
01:00:43
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:00:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah I didn't go to Simon this year, um but even if I had, i believe my Simon's great because like Pat said, we're not there for the education aspect. We're there to hang out with the guys and network with new guys. And our crew always seems to grow by a couple every time we go to one of these events, which is great.
01:01:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
um But even if I had gone to Simon this year, I still would say, i believe Storks um with that second day, With that ah welcome the ah the kickoff party, I believe that was still my favorite. um I thought per pound, that was far greater networking there.
01:01:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Again... you don't have like that is a serious snow event with serious snow people. Um, there are no tire kickers there. There, everybody is coming out of winter.
01:01:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
ah yeah Most people want to forget about snow by April, by mid April, you know, they, they're done. they They just finished their season. The last thing they want to do is go talk about more snow and stuff.
01:01:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Only the real diehard hardcore snow guys are looking for more coming out of a winter like that.
01:01:56
Patty Salmon
Very good point.
01:01:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
And, uh, I thought that was, uh, I thought Storks was awesome. They do a first class event all the way. And that is not to take away from any of the other events out there. Patty's event was great. And, you know, Northeast D icing was awesome. Storm day was awesome.
01:02:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Um, you know They did a two-day thing, which I think they saw by extending it and doing a welcome party the night before like Storks did. Now you have like they had.
01:02:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
They had people. i think they said 17 states and Canada were represented at Storm Day this year. So I think the bottom line, the thing to take away from this show season is the one-day events are here to stay.
01:02:35
RICK JAMES
Boutiques.
01:02:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, there're they're killing it.
01:02:38
RICK JAMES
The boutiques.
01:02:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Boutique, sorry for Todd Dickerson has dubbed them boutique events. ah They are here to stay. they are They are seemingly viewed as far more serious events.
01:02:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
um And because of that, I think guys are getting a lot more out of it, and their attendance are going like, Patty, you doubled this year, right?
01:03:00
Patty Salmon
Yeah, more than doubled, yep.
01:03:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right, I think Storm in three years has tripled what they were the first I think they had 35 the first year, 170 last year, and then this year was over two, 220, and over half of them flew in.
01:03:12
RICK JAMES
Yeah. yeah
01:03:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, like, it's good, and it's it's good to have, a like, a platform like this where we can tell everybody out there about these events that maybe they don't even hear of on social media.
01:03:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
you know so sns was great so these these one day events are awesome and they're very helpful to guys so if you guys are out there and you're listening you haven't been to one of these they're worth the trip you know they're definitely worth uh getting a hotel room if you have to and you know hanging out 100
01:03:40
RICK JAMES
you you get You get what, you know, you you determine what you get out of these events with all the people there.
01:03:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
um number percent
01:03:46
RICK JAMES
So, you know, if you want to just sit there and mill around the back or if you want to meet everybody, that's, I mean, that's all up to you. give You get what you put in
01:03:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Amen. What else? Anybody got anything else?
01:04:02
RICK JAMES
Let us know.
01:04:03
Patty Salmon
Yeah.
01:04:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Let it snow. yeah
01:04:05
Robert
Keep pushing.
01:04:06
Patty Salmon
About it.
01:04:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
There we go.
01:04:07
RICK JAMES
Keep pushing.
01:04:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Robert stole the tagline.
01:04:09
Patty Salmon
One thing I would say, I guess, is to anybody who listens to the podcast who did come to the event, please do us a favor and and fill out the the survey for after event because that's that's what's going to help us make it better better and better every year to figure out what people want, what people didn't like.
01:04:25
Patty Salmon
That's all I would have to add.
01:04:28
RICK JAMES
Was there 50% off sale or anything? I don't know.
01:04:34
Robert
We'll be down tomorrow.
01:04:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
but
01:04:34
RICK JAMES
ah yeah
01:04:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
if if they gave 50 yeah i can't even say it i was gonna fire a shot but i'll i'll refrain nope nope i can't yeah just sell anything
01:04:37
RICK JAMES
It's a flash sale. You got to be there in next hour.
01:04:43
Robert
So,
01:04:44
RICK JAMES
as as video Did you think you made some good leads there, Patty?
01:04:45
Patty Salmon
No, he's got it.
01:04:48
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
01:04:50
Patty Salmon
i I think so. Hopefully. We had we had six units leave the from the event. Those were already pre-planned, so you can't count those. but ah
01:05:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Those are sold, not stolen, right?
01:05:02
Patty Salmon
Yeah, yeah.
01:05:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
01:05:03
Patty Salmon
um But no, had a few few emails come in in the following day. so and I mean, obviously that's great, but that's not what the entire thing is about.
01:05:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sweet.
01:05:12
Patty Salmon
It's just about... getting everybody together to learn and network. So
01:05:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Amen. You can never go wrong with that. it's ah I think that's the coolest thing about snow guys is they all want to talk snow, and they will. And if you just give them give them some drinks, give them some food, and give them a place to do it, they will come.
01:05:30
Patty Salmon
it's all that's needed.
01:05:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
If you build it, they will come. and Definitely will. but Anybody got anything else you want to wrap it up?
01:05:39
Robert
I'm good.
01:05:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
All right.
Episode Conclusion and Gratitude
01:05:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, Sunday night under the wire, getting it done. Thank you, boys. Appreciate you guys all coming on with us. It's always a pleasure.
01:05:49
Patty Salmon
Thanks for having us.
01:05:50
Shawn
Thanks, guys.
01:05:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Patty.
01:05:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Awesome job. Please tell your dad, thank you very much for having us and a phenomenal job. And we'll always, ah always do whatever you need us to do.
01:05:56
RICK JAMES
Yeah, thank you, DJ.
01:05:59
Patty Salmon
Appreciate you guys. Thank you.
01:06:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
No problem. All right, Sean, Robert. Thanks for the time, bud.
01:06:05
Shawn
Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
01:06:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
I hear Sean's dog.
01:06:07
Shawn
Love you guys.
01:06:08
Shawn
See later.
01:06:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
No dog breeds like a German shepherd, dude.
01:06:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
You can tell a German shepherd breathing over any other kind of dog. It's so funny.
01:06:15
Shawn
It's so ridiculous.
01:06:16
Patty Salmon
That's just Sean smelling the food inside.
01:06:20
Shawn
but
01:06:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh my God. Oh boy. All right. Uh, yeah. So I guess we'll see you guys all in, uh, see you guys all in April again. That's it till then.
01:06:35
Robert
Thank you.
01:06:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh my God. That's the sound of somebody dying.
01:06:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Aguinal breathing. All right, snow jobs nation. That's it. We're going to wrap it there. Episode one 39 of the snow just podcast main shows in the books. Thanks to the boys again. um We're going to miss you. We'll see you April.
01:06:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
As for everybody else, we'll be back with you next Monday. That is it. Everybody have a safe week. Be good and keep pushing.