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Remrise - Sleep Expert Veronica Lee
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Introduction to Veronica Lee and Sleep Issues
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Back again, Bigger Talks, Bigger Talks, IG Live Edition.
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And today we have a phenomenal guest, Veronica Lee.
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She's a sleep expert and the CEO and founder of REMRISE.
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What y'all know about that REM sleep, that prime time sleep.
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Do you have sleeping challenges?
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Do you have sleeping issues?
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Can you not fall asleep?
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Have you heard of melatonin?
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We gonna talk about all those things soon, coming up.
Veronica's Sleep Journey and Founding REMRISE
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Soon as she get in the chat, we going live.
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Hey!
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Hey, Eric.
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How are you?
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How you feeling?
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I'm great.
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How are you doing?
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I'm great.
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How was your sleep today?
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It was great.
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How was yours?
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You know, my sleep was a little rocky today, but I managed.
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I got up at 545, so I went to be at like 11.
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Is that typical for you?
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Yeah, I try to get up 530 like every day, you know, at least Monday through Friday to get a quick start on my day.
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And the mission is get things accomplished by noon.
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Yeah, have momentum for the rest of the day.
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Yeah.
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Go to sleep.
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Say that again.
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What time do you usually go to sleep?
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Oh, between 10 and 11.
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10pm.
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Yeah.
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So I have a lot of questions for you, by the way.
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I've done a lot of research.
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I have a good friend of mine, Shawn Stevenson, he wrote the book Sleep Smarter.
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Oh, cool.
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I don't know if you heard of him.
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But years ago, I was on a podcast and they talked about REM sleep and taking your TVs out of your bedroom and the light on your phone and all these things.
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But let's talk about where it all started for you as a child.
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When it came to sleep, was it easy for you to go to sleep at a young age?
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never, never.
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I was always a troubled sleeper.
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I think I started drinking coffee when I was like 12 years old.
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So just always struggled with sleep.
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So I was never a good sleeper.
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And then I started my career in finance as an investment banker, was in finance for a long time.
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And the finance industry is like a badge of honor to not get good sleep and, you know, pull all nighters and all that stuff.
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And so I've never been a good sleeper.
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And it just, it really started to take its toll when I was doing my last startup, a fintech company.
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And
Career Achievements and Importance of Sleep
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I just felt like a shell of myself when I wasn't getting proper sleep.
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So I would, you know, when I was in finance, I would take NyQuil and ZQuil and all these sleep aids that made me feel terrible the next morning.
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And at that time, I didn't realize that all these sleep aids actually prevent you from getting quality sleep.
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So when you're talking about the Rome cycles, the deep sleep cycles, when you take prescription drugs, over the counter drugs, antihistamines, even when you drink alcohol or smoke weed, you're actually preventing yourself from getting quality sleep.
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So I went down this rabbit hole of
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trying to put together a natural solution for myself.
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So started experimenting with traditional Chinese medicine herbs, mixing it with vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and founded brown rice.
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Jamie Tworkowski Yeah, I mean, congratulations, because of what I know, the finance industry is tough.
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Yeah, challenging.
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And it's so before we get into more of Remrise and everything, how you started in intentions, I have a game.
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It's true or false.
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When I asked about five questions, and you let me know if it's true or false.
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Ready?
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Your company raised $8.2 million for funding for Remrise.
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True or false?
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True.
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Wow.
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You worked at Goldman Sachs.
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True.
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Are there sleep clinics?
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Yes.
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Wow.
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So that's true.
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Okay.
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Does sex improve your sleep?
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I think so.
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Naps.
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Naps are naps beneficial?
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I think it depends on the person.
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But yes, for some people for sure.
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And it depends on the person's schedule as well.
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If you can't get a certain block of time at night, absolutely take a bunch of naps if you can.
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Jamie Tworkowski Right.
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And so thank you for answering those questions.
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But I was doing some research and I love a quote that you came up with.
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I don't know if it was yours or someone else's.
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However, you say a good day starts with a good night.
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Can you elaborate on that?
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Yeah, I mean, I think it's funny because, you know, everyone starts their day at like five or six in the morning and they're focused on doing everything right, doing everything right with their morning routine and, you know, taking your vitamins and exercising and getting it right in the morning.
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But oftentimes to, you know, wake up early and get everything going.
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people are sacrificing sleep, which is actually the most important part of your day because the six, seven, eight hours that you're getting to restore your body and prime yourself for the next day is actually the most important.
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So I like to focus people on actually starting your day at 10, 11, whenever you're actually starting your nighttime routine because those first hours of sleep are actually the most important part of your day.
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So when you when you say REM sleep and REM rise, what does that actually mean?
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And how did you come up with the name?
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Why did you come up with the name?
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Because I think that, you know, more and more people are struggling with sleep.
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Sarah Mastrianni- Nowadays, right.
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I mean, you know, pre pandemic, it was a third of Americans post pandemic and sound closer to two thirds of Americans.
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Sarah Mastrianni- And so there's just a lot of people struggling with sleep, but people are resorting to these traditional sleep aids and the, you know, alcohol or, you know, different types of substances to help them knock out and fall asleep.
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But what people are not realizing is that it's not actually getting you that quality sleep.
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So why we focus on REM is because we want people to actually get REM cycles, deep sleep cycles, the quality sleep versus just taking something to knock out, really getting that restorative sleep that is crucial to your body and recovery.
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And then the other piece is really to have people rise well, well and energize.
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I think one thing that's really important to us at Remrise is, you know, a lot of sleep aids will give you this groggy feeling the next morning.
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And the reason behind that is because you're not getting REM and deep sleep and you're not getting restorative sleep.
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You're knocking out, but you're not getting the quality sleep.
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And so for us, it's important to not have that groggy feeling, but actually wake up ready to start your day and be energized.
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So that's where the name REM came from because we want you to REM well and then rise well.
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And to people listening, because some people might not know the terminology for REM, what does that actually mean?
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Yeah, so sleep throughout the night is broken up into different stages.
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So REM is one of the stages of sleep.
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It stands for rapid eye movement.
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And so the first stage is kind of between that wake and sleep period where you're just falling asleep.
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And then your body will enter into light sleep, where your heart rate starts to decrease, your body starts to relax, and then you'll fall into deep sleep.
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And sleep is especially important for muscle recovery, physical recovery.
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And then your body will go into the last stage, which is the run stage, which is especially important for cognitive function.
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Got it.
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And you spoke briefly on people's struggle with sleep.
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Now, is the struggle based on hereditary and genetics or is it based on environment and people surrounding?
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Why do you think
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most people in these days and age, you know, struggle with sleep or going to sleep, I would say.
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I mean, I think there's definitely a heredity issue for some people.
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But I think for a majority, it is largely environment.
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And the world's just not made for good sleep these days, right?
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We're distracted by so many things.
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We're distracted by our phones and Netflix.
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I mean, Reed Hastings has been quoted saying that, you know, his only competition is sleep.
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He's not worried about anyone else.
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That's a good one.
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sleep.
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And frankly, he's winning, right?
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Everyone's like, on Netflix and watching, you know, episode after episode and whatnot.
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And also, we're part of this like, go go go culture now, where, you know, everyone is focused on the action of doing versus the action of just stepping back and relaxing, right?
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Because to get to fall into like good sleep, you actually need to take a step back and
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you know,
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almost like undo and not do things.
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Jamie Tworkowski And it's like a fear, I think.
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I think early in my stages when I was studying motivation and trying to become my best self, I think there's a fear of sleep is for suckers.
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Oh, you sleep when you die.
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Oh, I'm up all night pulling all night, you got to get it in.
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This is what it takes to be great.
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And it's like, hold up.
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As I've gotten older, when I get more sleep, I have better days and a better life.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It's interesting because I go to these events and people pass out free gifts and merch.
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So I had a melatonin.
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I mean, you know what, I don't really have a problem falling asleep.
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Let me take this and see if it helps.
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Yeah.
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So I took two gummies.
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You know, we're good.
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This is gummies.
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And then, you know, when I woke up, I felt so heavy.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like as if I still was asleep, but I had a headache.
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Like this is weird.
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Yeah.
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You know, and I was like, I don't think I could do this at all.
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It's so interesting because melatonin is the most widely recognized and most widely used natural supplement for sleep.
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Yet most people don't have a good experience with it.
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You know, most people feel that heaviness the next morning.
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They feel really, really groggy.
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A lot of people actually wake up prematurely.
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So it helps you with falling asleep, but you wake up after four or five hours.
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So you're actually waking up earlier than you would have.
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And then you have to take more melatonin to get back to sleep.
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And then a lot of people actually build tolerance to melatonin pretty quickly.
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When I experimented with melatonin years ago,
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I would start taking the recommended dosage and then start taking more and more to get the desired effect because my body just built tolerance to it so quickly.
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So it's really interesting.
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And for a lot of females, we don't like taking more hormones, which melatonin is.
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So it's funny that it's just so many people use melatonin and no melatonin, but it's actually a very suboptimal solution.
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Jamie Tworkowski Yeah, and then sleep is, I believe sleep is, you know, because in a fitness space for myself, you know, a lot of people struggle with fitness.
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It's hard, it's challenging, and there's a life hack to being fit and wanting to be fit, right?
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It's getting your rest.
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I might get up at five and work, you know, a few hours, but I'll make sure I take a 30 minute nap as well.
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So can you describe or can you give the audience some tips or ways they can improve their sleep with things they have control over so they can kind of get a different perspective on what proper rest and getting good sleep is?
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Absolutely.
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I mean, I think the first thing is just to prioritize it.
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And I think that most people in society these days, like, are still not prioritizing it.
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I think that it's definitely, the tide is changing where, you know, we were talking about
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finance and you know it's a badge of honor to to not get sleep and whatnot um and we're in this go-go culture but i think that people are starting to be vocal about the importance of sleep and i think that the first thing is for each you know each individual to really prioritize that and i think um coming up with a nighttime routine for yourself like that
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similarly people would do for their morning routine.
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So we also talked about, you know, everyone spends a lot of effort kind of figuring out their morning routine, but really figuring out your nighttime routine to kind of prime yourself for sleep.
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And that's going to be different for each individual.
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So find something that works for you.
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And also expect that, you know, it's going to take longer for you to wind down than you would think it would.
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Right.
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So a lot of people expect to like,
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have your head hit the pillow and then fall asleep within 10 minutes.
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And that normally doesn't happen if you're like on the phone and like on watching some Netflix and then you expect to just turn it off and go right to sleep.
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you know so for a lot of people that we've talked to you know in our customer base and whatnot when we do research with people who struggle with sleep is really figuring out you know do you want to take some like you know at Remrise we are big on taking herbs that will help you get in this relaxed state and then do your you know
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wash up in nighttime routine.
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And then, you know, from myself personally, when I lie in bed, you know, I do a gratitude checklist, which I find in a different, you know, perspective where I can't be like thinking of all my to do's and all the things tomorrow.
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So it really slows me down and primes me for sleep.
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And I think the last thing I'll say is just figuring out your own personal triggers.
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Because those again are different for everyone, but some people are very sensitive to temperature.
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So if that's the case, figure out the right temperature, you know, some people run hot, some people run colder.
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So figure out the optimal temperature for yourself.
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And then some people are very sensitive to sound.
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So a white noise machine can help a lot with that.
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Some people really, you know, work will relax much more with meditation.
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So integrate that into the routine, but really figure out what the personal triggers are.
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Yeah, and I think everything is personalized when it comes to rest because everyone's different.
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I don't know if you heard of chronotype.
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Have you heard of that?
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So chronotype is a test you take to understand like what type of person you are.
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If you're out, you're early riser, you kind of got to get up middle of the day.
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So that research and study done case study where a young lady would go to bed on time.
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and get to work between hours of eight or nine, but she wouldn't perform as well.
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So with this test, she realized she's more of a night owl and then like around like hours of 10 or 11, she performs the best.
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So her supervisor allowed her to come in at those hours.
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So it goes back and it talks about, I think you have bears, dolphins, wolves, and lions.
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I think bears is like 50% of the population.
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They get up between like eight and nine.
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Lions are like, you know, super early five or six.
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And I think the dolphins are kind of like anything can wake them up, like someone coming in the door, sound.
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And I think the wolves are the night owls, you know, like creators.
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Can you talk about, because the information I have, I could be wrong, that the prime hours to get the best sleep is between 10 p.m.
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and 2 a.m.
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Is that true?
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That's what the research says for sure.
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I think your point, right?
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I think that for different people, there's different, you know, based on your schedule, it's just like there's different hours that, you know, will work well for people.
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I mean, I think that I'm big on just like finding your own personal rhythm and routine because
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there's a lot of research that says like certain things will you know these are the ideal hours these are the ideal hours of sleep that you need to get but everyone is different and really figuring out what works for you I think is the most important.
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And are you an early riser or are you a night owl what type of person?
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I'm a complete night owl although I just had a baby recently and so congratulations.
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Doesn't allow me to be a night owl.
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That's dope.
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Wow.
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So what time do you usually go to bed prior to having your little one?
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Like what time did you go to bed on average?
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Before I would go to sleep around, I would try to start my routine around midnight.
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And I would sleep around one.
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And you get up at?
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seven or eight.
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Oh, look at you.
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Wow.
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You know, yeah, because you know, that is interesting because for me, I don't need eight, nine hours of sleep to feel energized between five and six.
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Yeah.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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Also notice that when I go to bed before 11 and like somewhat between 9 and 10, get up in the middle of the night, like 2, 3 a.m.
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I'm like, what is that about?
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Like, I'm going to bed on time intentionally.
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I'm trying to get my rest.
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But then I'm up.
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Yeah.
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I was listening to some podcast and they were talking about you shouldn't drink water an hour or two hours before you go to bed because that keeps you awake.
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But outside of that, I was like, why am I getting up?
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So I don't know if that's like a moment thing.
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Maybe I was in a phase or I don't know.
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Do you have anything to share or?
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I mean, I've had the same experience where I sleep early.
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Because even if I'm like, you know, I didn't get sleep the night before or something, I still try to like, get you know, go to sleep around like 10 or 11.
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Because if I'm by like, seven or eight, I'm gonna wake up in the middle of night for sure.
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Jamie Tworkowski You know, it's always interesting.
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What can you talk about because I know a lot of people experience jetlag?
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Yeah, best way to master that?
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Or?
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to defeat that in a way where you're catching up on your time or you're having healthy sleep when you still jet lag.
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Is there a way?
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Is there a hack for that?
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I mean, I think that the hack that I've always done and what I've seen work well is that, you know, most travel is planned.
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So you can plan for it a couple days in advance.
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So if you know where you're, you know, the time zone of where you're going to, you kind of move it, you know, by a little bit each day so that it's not all of a sudden.
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I think that when jet lag, you know, you try to like do it all at once, you're spending the first few days of your vacation or travel to like get yourself on a new time zone when you can actually do some of that.
REMRISE Products and Natural Sleep Solutions
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When you can actually do some of that prior to the trip.
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And for myself, you know, being, you know, one that takes a lot of herbs, you know, I'll bring herbs that like will help me fall asleep easier when I get to the destination.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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So let's get into Remrise in more detail.
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Like what is, you know, I know you said you worked at like, you know, financing and banking firms and things of that nature that kind of turned the
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Is it the corner for you?
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But what is the intention for REMRISE?
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And what is REMRISE?
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And how can people get into it?
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And what is the benefits?
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And is there any side effects to taking your product?
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Talk about it.
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Yeah, I mean, I think the intention behind Brumrise is really to provide better quality sleep for more people.
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That's really, you know, all it is.
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And so, you know, what we're doing is creating products and using good for you ingredients
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to help with the relaxation period before sleep, getting to sleep, but also throughout the night so that you're getting REM, you're getting deep sleep cycles.
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And so we take a lot of these traditional Chinese medicine herbs and as I... I read the book on the Chinese medicine, they're like, they're into it.
00:20:25
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They're, you know, detailed.
00:20:26
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Well, it's interesting because, you know, a lot of these herbs have been used for thousands of years.
00:20:32
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They're very effective.
00:20:34
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And they also have a lot of other health benefits.
00:20:38
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So, you know, it's, we like to call ourselves like sleep food, because it's really, you know, having people consume something that is healthy and nourishing to your body and force and for sleep.
00:20:55
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So we basically when COVID hit, we actually did a huge study
00:21:01
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and reformulated our products.
00:21:03
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And now we have a powder formulation, which is a much higher dosage for people who are really struggling with sleep.
00:21:09
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Because a lot of these Chinese herbs are, you know, they're plant-based ingredients.
00:21:13
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So there's actually a lot of volume to them.
00:21:16
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So in order to take, you know, the proper dosage, you're actually taking, you know, pretty large, you know,
00:21:23
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numbers of grams of these herbs.
00:21:25
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So it's similar to like, if you're taking a protein shake, right, it's very hard to just encapsulate that.
00:21:30
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So we have a powder for somebody, for the person who is really struggling with sleep.
00:21:34
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And then we have a sleep vitamin who's for the sleep optimizer.
00:21:37
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So similar ingredients.
00:21:40
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And it's for the person who doesn't always have trouble falling asleep or staying asleep, but they, you know, want something that boosts their sleep and, you know, really helps increase their REM and DEAP.
00:21:55
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You got sweet gummies?
00:21:57
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I love gummy bears.
00:22:01
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That could be on the horizon.
00:22:04
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Yeah.
00:22:06
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Because I think about when you were talking, I was thinking like, man, you know what's interesting?
00:22:10
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How can we make sleep cool again?
00:22:12
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Like not that it's not cool, but how can we get people to fall asleep or want to go to sleep in a healthy way and not think about, oh, I gotta go to work tomorrow.
00:22:23
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You know, sometimes when you get close to like eight or nine, I'm like, I gotta get up at five, but I understand my intentions.
00:22:30
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But I know for me, like long flights, I don't want to stay up on the flight all day.
00:22:35
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Go to sleep.
00:22:36
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Yeah.
00:22:36
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So can you speak on not only making sleep cool, but I realize a lot of brands use the word plant-based.
00:22:45
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And I don't want to say it's not marketing, but like everybody's using plant-based.
00:22:49
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What is so effective about having a plant-based product?
00:22:53
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Yeah.
00:22:53
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Especially when it comes to sleep.
00:22:56
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Yeah, I mean, I think for sleep specifically, we talked about it a bit, but you know, what people traditionally take for sleep are prescription drugs like Ambien or
00:23:10
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these, you know, over-the-counter antihistamines like Unisom, Z-Qulniquil, or, you know, they drink alcohol or they smoke weed and all is sleep aids are preventing you from getting quality sleep.
00:23:25
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I mean, they're knocking you out and that's, you know, knocking out is actually a very unnatural response to something, right?
00:23:32
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And so it's not good for your body.
00:23:34
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There's, you know, in addition to preventing REM and D,
00:23:39
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there's more and more research that a lot of these drugs lead to, there's increased chances of Alzheimer's, dementia, all these cognitive disorders in the future.
00:23:49
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And with, you know, sleep actually gets worse and worse as you age.
00:23:53
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So it's a natural part of like deteriorating sleep.
00:23:57
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It's part of the aging process.
00:24:00
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And so especially like for women, once they kind of hit menopause, a lot of women say that they just like can't sleep at all anymore.
00:24:07
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And similar for men, you know, once they start hitting their like 50s and 60s, they just can't and they don't feel like they get any, you know, on their trackers like the Fitbit and Aura Ring, they don't see, they see that their ramen deep just like go off a cliff.
00:24:23
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And so it's even more important for people who are getting older and older to think about taking something that's more natural for their sleep versus taking something like an Ambien or a Unisom that's going to prevent them from REM and deep and also increased chances of cognitive disorders.
00:24:46
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So you're saying basically, you know, when you have a more plant-based ingredient like your remorise, there's not any side effects or are there or not at all?
00:24:55
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No, we're very focused on no side effects and only positive side effects.
00:24:58
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So we've selected ingredients that have other health benefits.
00:25:02
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A lot of these, as we chatted about, a lot of these traditional Chinese medicine herbs have other health benefits and have been used for, you know, skin health, inflammation, and all these other things.
00:25:13
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So overall,
00:25:14
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healthy ingredients that help with really just relaxing your body and helping your mind shut off for the day versus completely knocking you out.
00:25:25
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And you asked a question earlier, can you take rem ryes every day and is there any negative side effect of doing so?
00:25:34
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And actually, this is why we liken ourselves to sleep food because a lot of these Chinese medicine ingredients, there's actually a cumulative effect.
00:25:42
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So with increased use, there's actually more and more health benefits and it actually makes your sleep overall
00:25:50
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better and better.
00:25:52
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So it's almost like, you know, doctors say- Is it like conditioning you into like good habits to kind of want to go to sleep at a good time?
00:26:01
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For example, like one of the ingredients we use is reishi mushrooms, which is an adaptogen.
00:26:07
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So the more you take reishi mushrooms, the, you know, the better your body copes with stress overall.
00:26:13
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So the more you take it, your body will be better at handling stress.
00:26:19
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over time.
00:26:20
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And so Shachandra berry is good for inflammation.
00:26:24
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So the more you take Shachandra berry, inflammation will be decreased over time.
00:26:31
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And so that's why we see it as, you know, your doctor always says, like an apple a day keeps the doctor away.
00:26:38
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And so we liken it to sleep food in the sense that we're really trying to create something that is nourishing and overall health beneficial to people versus what a traditional sleep aid is.
00:26:51
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Yeah.
00:26:52
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And because, you know, you know, to go back to the beginning, sleep is everything.
00:26:58
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Yeah.
00:26:59
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When people, you know, get ill, they get sick, what do they do?
00:27:02
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They rest.
00:27:03
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Yeah.
00:27:04
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Yeah.
00:27:04
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And I think what most people in these times are going through, they're not mentally, they're not resting.
00:27:08
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Now, does your product allow, I mean, you said relaxes the body, but does it allow the mind to kind of like slow down and kind of be in a more meditative type of space?
00:27:17
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Absolutely.
00:27:19
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It's targeted towards like all these adaptogens actually are dual purpose in the sense that it helps your mind and body relax.
00:27:27
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Yeah.
00:27:28
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Yeah.
00:27:29
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And so, you know, I know because, you know, you got a quick out saying we get off in a bit.
00:27:34
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What do you recommend?
00:27:36
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people who can't sleep for like, of course your products, but just in general, like what is some habits they can add to their daily life to kind of, when they get close to the sleep hours to help them fall asleep?
00:27:51
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Is there something like drinking water, exercise?
00:27:54
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I mean, you said you do gratitude, maybe meditation, which would weigh or what tip is the most effective for most people you realize?
00:28:02
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Yeah, I mean, I think what you were talking about is just like, you know, for a lot of people, it's like the mental stress that's keeping people up right now.
00:28:10
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And I think one big thing right before you go to sleep is just to figure out something that will shift your perspective, to get your mind in a different perspective.
00:28:19
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So whether it's a gratitude journal, or a meditation, or, you know,
00:28:26
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thinking about, you know, the things that you love, like your family and whatnot, whatever it is that's going to shift your mindset, because that'll have a dramatic effect on just putting your mind and body at rest to prime yourself for sleep.
00:28:41
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Yeah.
00:28:42
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And you know, it's that fun quote by Wayne Dyer.
00:28:44
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If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.
00:28:48
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Yeah.
00:28:48
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Yeah.
00:28:48
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When I sleep at night, I literally go to sleep in by normal beats or meditation or even affirmations.
00:28:53
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Yeah.
00:28:54
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Sound, sound waves.
00:28:56
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Yeah.
00:28:58
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But yeah, Remrise.
00:28:59
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Remrise is the product.
00:29:00
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Where can we find it?
00:29:01
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Where can we go to get it?
00:29:02
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Like, what's the, how do we access Remrise?
00:29:05
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Yeah, we're on remrise.com.
00:29:08
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We're also on Goop.
00:29:11
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So goop.com and Amazon.
00:29:13
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Okay.
Sleep's Impact on Mental Health and Productivity
00:29:15
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And so you guys have tablets and you have powder.
00:29:17
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Yep.
00:29:18
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Yeah, any new creations.
00:29:20
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I think I was reading something about sleep clinics.
00:29:22
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Is that like actual things?
00:29:24
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There's something that for testing like was that?
00:29:27
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Yeah, we ran a big test ourselves actually.
00:29:31
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Had a 1200 participant study.
00:29:34
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where we were trying to refine the formulation.
00:29:36
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So we tested 35 ingredients, 17 formulations, and the winning formulation is what we commercialized.
00:29:45
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But we are doing a lot of research on different form factors.
00:29:50
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So chew, gummy, all of those are in R&D right now.
00:29:55
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And what is your number one product that sells most?
00:29:57
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Is it the powder or the tablets?
00:29:58
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It's the powder.
00:29:59
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The powder is definitely a stronger product.
00:30:02
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So it's like 5x the concentration of our vitamins.
00:30:06
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And do you take the powder like a few hours or 30 minutes before you get in bed?
00:30:11
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Like how does that work?
00:30:12
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Do you put water or?
00:30:14
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:14
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We recommend it.
00:30:18
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We recommend it 45 minutes to an hour before sleep.
00:30:23
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And, you know, people have, our customers have gotten quite creative with it.
00:30:26
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So some people make their own smoothies.
00:30:29
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You know, I take mine with soy milk.
00:30:31
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um you can use hot water you can use hot nut milk you know a lot of people use those like nut pods um but some people have gotten really creative and have thrown like a quarter of a banana in and oh wow and all sorts of cool recipes with it yeah and it's uh yeah i'm just so happy you're in this space because you hear people talk about sleep but they're not like giving you the details unless you go
00:30:59
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read a book, which, you know, is a great book.
00:31:02
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But I think having products and having things that are plant based that are good for like you said, the mushrooms and things that are in your products helps your mind and body relax, where you can get into the room sleep, right?
00:31:13
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Like the ramp sleeping in a pattern in a more consistent space.
00:31:18
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Because if you're up all night, I mean, you're a mother, so you're probably up because of your little one.
00:31:23
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Yeah.
00:31:24
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some people, you know, just have a hard time sleeping in general.
00:31:28
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Yeah, totally.
00:31:29
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Totally.
00:31:30
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I think it's like this.
00:31:31
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I look at the world we live in.
00:31:34
Speaker
If we can spread more love, probably a better place.
00:31:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:39
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Get more sleep.
00:31:40
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I'm for
00:31:43
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I agree.
00:31:45
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Veronica Lee and Rembrandt.
00:31:47
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It's on all platforms, you know?
00:31:53
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And try it out, people.
00:31:54
Speaker
I mean, I'm definitely going to get some products because I want to try.
00:31:57
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I'm a type of person, I want to experience the product.
00:32:01
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Yeah.
00:32:02
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Say, oh, okay, this really works.
00:32:05
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Because you know, like you said, everything is organic, this is plant based, you know, and then like you said, everybody responds differently, but I'm just happy to have space.
00:32:14
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And by the way, last question, because I know you got to go, does your sleep affect your money?
00:32:22
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I mean, you're a big financial guru.
00:32:25
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I mean, absolutely.
00:32:27
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So, I mean, I think sleep is foundational to everything.
00:32:30
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But I mean, that's, I'm probably a little biased, right?
00:32:33
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Because I think that, you know, sleep is, you know,
00:32:38
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I think is the most foundational to like health and wellness and all this stuff.
00:32:41
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But I think that it also, you know, we talked about REM sleep and how it's so important for cognitive ability and all this other stuff.
00:32:48
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So if you're thinking about like, you know, everything that affects money, right?
00:32:52
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Whether it's like how you make money, how you manage money.
00:32:57
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I mean, good sleep will supercharge all of those things.
00:33:01
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Yeah.
00:33:01
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And the thing is, it's like those people, I guess I can't say those people, but the perception I have people who work on Wall Street,
00:33:07
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They're up all night popping whatever to stay away.
00:33:10
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Yeah.
00:33:11
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Money but then it's a I guess it's a hard crash at the end of the day.
00:33:16
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Yeah.
Conclusion and Call to Prioritize Sleep
00:33:17
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Follow RimRise get you some product follow her.
00:33:20
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She's amazing.
00:33:21
Speaker
And she's good with money.
00:33:22
Speaker
I mean you guys raised 8.2 million.
00:33:25
Speaker
Damn how did you do it?
00:33:26
Speaker
Finance background.
00:33:30
Speaker
Anything else you want us to know we should know about RimRise or your company or anything potentially you might have coming up, any events, panel discussions, would you let us know?
00:33:42
Speaker
Yeah, I think the big thing on the horizon is just to follow us for our next reveal on the form factor.
00:33:52
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So that should be coming out soon.
00:33:54
Speaker
And the form factor that's... It's some combination of the bite or chew, but... Okay, okay.
00:34:00
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Different type of form factor from the powder and the vitamin.
00:34:05
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Got it.
00:34:06
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That's big.
00:34:06
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Well, congratulations on all your success and progress.
00:34:10
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Progress equals happiness.
00:34:11
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And we must get our rest to be our best.
00:34:15
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And remember, I got to get some products.
00:34:18
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I appreciate your time and your energy.
00:34:20
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And we're tired of being tired.
00:34:22
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So yeah, right.
00:34:24
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So sleep is important.
00:34:26
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Rest is important.
00:34:27
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And I think the more information we have in that space, the better we can improve our situation when it comes to getting sleep.
00:34:34
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Yeah.
00:34:35
Speaker
So thank you.
00:34:36
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I appreciate you.
00:34:37
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And have a good day.
00:34:40
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Thank you.
00:34:41
Speaker
Have a good one.
00:34:42
Speaker
Bye-bye.
00:34:43
Speaker
Bye.
00:34:44
Speaker
Rim rise.
00:34:44
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Yes.
00:34:45
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Veronica Lee.
00:34:47
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Follow Rim rise.
00:34:49
Speaker
You got to have better sleep, people.
00:34:50
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Get your rest to be your best.
00:34:53
Speaker
Look, I'm big on energy.
00:34:55
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You know I'm all about energy.
00:34:57
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Energy is everything.
00:34:58
Speaker
Energy is currency.
00:34:59
Speaker
You want to increase your frequency, increase your vibration, get your rest.
00:35:03
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Check out RimRise on social.
00:35:05
Speaker
Google them, look them up.
00:35:07
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Try the powder, get the tablets and the phone factor.
00:35:09
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I would love the gummies, you know, and the chewies.
00:35:12
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But that's it.
00:35:12
Speaker
That's all.
00:35:13
Speaker
Thank you guys once again for listening to Bigger Talks.
00:35:16
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IG Live Edition signing off.
00:35:18
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Peace and love.