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S4-Special Product Launch Announcment, MUSKOX!!
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The guys sit down with Adam Bergman of Muskox for the official announcement of their brand new product launch! The brand new Muskox INVERTED blower!
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Introduction and New Product Announcement
00:00:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Here we go. Snow Jobs Nation, we are back again bringing you another product profile special episode. As always, I'm Steve. You know who's with me.
00:00:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Hopefully with a better voice than I have today, Mr. Jeremy Lindstrom. What's up, Jay?
00:00:53
RICK JAMES
Hey, Steve, ah not a lot. How about you, buddy?
00:00:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm pumped man this is uh this is exciting another uh other manufacturer has chosen the uh snow jobs to unveil a brand new product to uh to everybody but the snow jobs nation guys first it's great
00:00:58
RICK JAMES
It is exciting.
00:01:06
RICK JAMES
Yeah, that's great. Well, they're our buddies, so I would hope they'd come to us, the old musk ox.
00:01:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. I mean, we've grown together really, right? You know, I mean, days they were the first manufacturer to really see the potential in the show.
00:01:14
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:01:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
I think like some ridiculous like five to seven episodes in and they jumped right on board and became our very first partner in the show.
00:01:22
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:01:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
So we've been very excited to see them grow and and see what they've been able to do. And and the the show and Muskox have kind of grown handin hand in hand.
00:01:34
RICK JAMES
Oh, for sure. And they've been nothing. They haven't stopped since we got them on. They've been upgrading and making things better all the way along and
Reflecting on Partnership with Muskox
00:01:42
RICK JAMES
new products.
00:01:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
constant tweaking constant tweaking every time i get one i get my guys dialed in they make a change and they improve it and it's like a whole new training segment uh for the guys but uh man everything they do it just works everything they every improvement they've made to those muskox blowers has improved the already what was already a great product it's improved it if its efficiency tenfold
00:01:42
RICK JAMES
So, yeah, it's been great.
00:01:46
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:02:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
So they really got it dialed in there. Ron, the mad scientist, and the and the whole family crew. You know, when Ron starts drawing on cocktail napkins, watch out. You know, try and grab that cocktail napkin from him.
00:02:15
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:02:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's going to be pretty valuable.
00:02:18
RICK JAMES
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. he's He's a math scientist.
00:02:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
But he is...
00:02:23
RICK JAMES
What they do is great.
00:02:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
But like we said, we're we're super happy for MuskOx for a couple of reasons. One, you know they are the definition of a family business. They are one big family, ah and they get it. The second thing is they get it. They make snow products. They understand on the service side that those snow products cannot go down. And if they do go down, they got to get back up as quick as possible. So they've nailed it on the service side too and getting parts next day aired, you know overnighted. they They make it happen for the for their users.
00:02:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, that's the only way you're going to win in snow. You can't be down for weeks at a time.
00:02:58
RICK JAMES
Right.
00:03:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
So very happy for them.
00:03:01
RICK JAMES
No, that's 100% true.
00:03:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very happy for their success. And, you know, this is great, man. We got a brand new, apparently a whole new direction here because we're kind of kind of in the dark. We've heard hints. We've heard little, ah you know, things here and there.
00:03:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
But we don't know what Adam has. We have Adam Bergman with us today. We don't know what he has up his sleeve completely.
Muskox's Product Evolution Journey
00:03:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
We have some ideas, but, you know, we're we're looking forward to it, right?
00:03:25
RICK JAMES
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, they've had some good teasers, that's for sure. Get people interested. yeah, it's been very, very exciting. i think it'll be great for the market. So can't wait to hear all about it.
00:03:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely. Absolutely. So, Adam, how are you, buddy? Long time no see.
00:03:38
Adam
Hi, this is so exciting, right? Just thinking three and a half years ago we're together. We're talking about snow blowers that Steve is using and watching you guys grow, us grow. I think when we first met Steve, we probably had customers in about three states.
00:03:54
Adam
Now we're in 37 states, gets snow, which blows my mind.
00:03:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's wild.
00:03:57
RICK JAMES
Wow.
00:04:00
Adam
We're all over up north with our Canadian friends with the products as well. So yeah, it's been quite the ride quite the ride watching you guys ah grow as well. So yeah, just excited to be on and no place I'd rather be.
00:04:15
Adam
That's a bit of a lie. I'd probably be at a few other places today, but it's it's pretty special that today on the internet, we're launching our brand new product.
00:04:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome. I mean, it's so cool. And like, like you said, three States, maybe a handful of customers. And it was by far the best gamble that I've ever made.
00:04:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cause we didn't know about it. We, I looked at the schematics.
00:04:42
Adam
Thank
00:04:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
I talked to one user and the guy was like, dude, this thing's killer. Like, yeah, you won't be, you won't be go, you know, you can't go wrong if you spend the money on this. And I had an idea that I needed it for.
00:04:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
and it killed it. It absolutely was the best gamble and the best money I've spent. Cause it did not do me wrong. It made me money five, six times over. It paid for itself in the first year with the, with the labor savings. It was, it was incredible. So I, you know, I owe you guys for that. That changed my business. It allowed us to take on those bigger HOAs and, and the guys love them and they kill it. And,
00:05:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
it's ah It's very exciting that you guys are taking another step. and and Because you have to be out of improvements for the first blower. I mean, right? Like, is there anything more you can do?
00:05:26
Adam
we We are at the tail end of making any changes to it.
00:05:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:05:31
Adam
I mean, I can't imagine. We've gone through every bar napkin anda Polk County, which is the county that my dad lives in, Minnesota. And being able to do that in over North Dakota.
00:05:42
Adam
But yeah, to talk briefly about that blower, and we'll get into that a little bit later, we've made a lot of changes over the last five years. And those changes happened because of the operators. I mean, we listen.
00:05:52
Adam
You guys, Steve, you're shaking a head for a reason, right?
00:05:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
You did. Oh yeah.
00:05:56
Adam
um I heard the line from different people, the snow is different out east than it is in North Dakota.
00:06:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes.
00:06:02
RICK JAMES
Thank you.
00:06:04
Adam
And, you know, I was pretty naive to the fact because didn't travel a lot back then. and thinking, well, Christ, snow is snow. but It's not. It's a dry snow that we have over here. You guys have wet snow over there. So we made a huge change with that, starting with our 2684, and now it's continuing forward with our 2760, in which we created the pivoting auger system.
00:06:27
Adam
And what we changed there is our auger went from 3 1⁄2 inches off the ground to an inch and a half, and we moved it from behind the cutting edge to in front of the cutting edge,
00:06:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:06:40
Adam
We also changed the auger design, so we have a big paddle that's in the middle. So now what we're doing with wet snow is we're controlling that to the center, controlling what goes into the fan. And we went from a product that could plug, which was frustrating for us to hear that wet snow, to overcoming that obstacle. And we created, it was an opportunity for us, right? We spent a lot of time on it. We even took the hydraulic motor and moved it to the back of the machine because we knew that corner where that motor would get hot and then you go from job to job, it would start to cool down and create an ice block over there. So now we consistently feed snow to the middle. We also did a flow regulator.
00:07:22
Adam
So we regulate the ah speed of the auger because we want that fan spinning as fast as that damn thing can so we can blow snow three neighbors down if we want or we can blow it right next to the machine. But the augers got to run slower than the fan when it's really wet snow to really be able to attack that. So we changed the aim point. We changed the game. That 2684, it's galvanized, looks beautiful. It's sharp. It's pretty impressive to put it by our old machines.
00:07:51
Adam
And I do hear it often. I'll just cut to the chase. Why the hell didn't you guys do that four years ago? Well, you know what? ah You learn, you evolve, you build new products, you listen to your customers out there.
00:08:03
Adam
And we made a choice, made the choice with my father, an engineer.
00:08:04
RICK JAMES
Thank
00:08:08
Adam
he's like, Adam, this it's like every three years we should be making these changes. And the conversation was, we're going to make this change every season to land in the best possible machine.
00:08:19
Adam
Long-winded of that, proud of that machine where it's at. It's getting rave reviews. People in the wet snow are calling, going, oh my God, it's night and day difference. You guys absolutely nailed it.
00:08:29
Adam
But to answer your question, yes, I think we're at the end of it where i we're going to have to bring in some other bodies as they're running that new machine. i We got tons of those 2684s out there, and I don't think we've had a single complaint when it comes to that machine.
00:08:45
Adam
Knock on wood, I think we just landed in a spot to dominate driveways throughout the United States.
00:08:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. And you guys are you guys are so hyper self-critical, too.
00:08:53
RICK JAMES
Awesome.
00:08:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
Like, you said ah we we had a product that could plug, and we weren't happy with that. I remember literally being on the phone with Ron, and say and he called after one of our big storms where it was heavy and wet, and we were pushing just as much water as we were 15 inches of snow.
00:09:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
And he's like, how did it do? Because we had to adjust the... of the What was it? The...
00:09:19
Adam
lip clutch.
00:09:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
We had to make a slip clutch, yes. So we made that adjustment. Ron called and checked in, said, hey, how did it do? I'm like, dude, it did awesome. Like, it only it only plugged one time.
00:09:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
And I was like, out of 16 hours. And he goes, what? no no No, no, no, no, this doesn't plug. I'm like, no, no, dude, it's OK. Like, we have other blowers that are not muskox. And they were down after 20 minutes. We couldn't use them. Like, this thing ran for 15, 16 hours and only plugged one time. And that was probably operator error. He's like, no, no, no.
00:09:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
No, you don't understand. Like, this is not plugged. We do not plug. Like, we're going to adjust it again. And he talked me through another adjustment. And we've never plugged it since. So like you guys are very hypercritical of your own product, which is awesome. you know That's why it's so good.
00:10:04
Adam
I don't know where that started. I don't know if my dad was just critical of me all my life and my grandfather was a him.
00:10:08
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:10:09
Adam
I don't know if it's just a family trait, but you know it's kind of funny. just Anything you do, you don't really remember the compliments, but you sure as hell remember when somebody tells you something can be better, right?
00:10:22
Adam
and you You either take that personal and you go out, make the changes so you get the best damn thing out there, Or you get defensive of it and go a different route.
00:10:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Very true.
00:10:34
Adam
And I think Muskox from the beginning has leaned into that. We take that shit to heart. Like it hurts us if we're, like you said earlier, when you guys open this up, downtime, right? You guys got to be out there. You guys are all grinding. You're getting my kids to school in the morning because you're getting our snow out of the way, right?
00:10:51
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:10:51
Adam
My little angel, my little Piper, right? She's got to get on the school bus in the morning. And
Unveiling the New 82-inch Inverted Blower
00:10:56
Adam
i want that driveway clean when I walk out, those sidewalks clean when I walk out. like you We in this industry allow the world to spin during snowstorms and continue on.
00:11:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Amen. amen
00:11:06
Adam
And damn it, we take a lot of pride in that we want the best equipment out there to support our operators. And we just, we took huge steps forward. Steve's been able to use the 2684 and see all the beauty to it.
00:11:19
Adam
We improved our cutting edges on it, the rubber on it, just just all the way across the board. So anyway, that galvanized one, and that was also from feedback from people. Why not lean into the galvanized?
00:11:30
Adam
We spent three years doing perfecting that galvanizing process, right? To find the right vendors to work with, what the right product out there. And just logistically for us, we build these snowblowers in a town of 80 people.
00:11:44
Adam
There ain't a lot of people around us.
00:11:45
RICK JAMES
the
00:11:46
Adam
So would we got to travel logistically to get things done um like galvanizing.
00:11:46
RICK JAMES
no
00:11:51
Adam
It's a specialized deal. And we're very proud of that at this point. um I get a little blowback, but I charge the same thing for galvanizes. I do painted products.
00:12:01
Adam
I just want to make it easy for everybody to make that decision. Painted ones, people still get them sometimes. They look super sexy when you get them. If you're willing to wash them, keep them clean all the time, there's ah definitely a look to that black.
00:12:13
Adam
There's definitely a look to that limited edition polar that came out that people absolutely love, but the galvanized seems to win over and over.
00:12:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:12:18
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:12:21
Adam
So yeah, that blower's in a a good spot. When we talked to you guys before, we were at 90-inch. Oh, Christ, when we talked, we just had a 78-inch. We then went to a 90-inch. And we ended up landing just from customer feedback.
00:12:34
Adam
We are 78 and a 90 because of the width of skid steers, right? We have these 82 inch wider machines. So that's why we made the 90. We ended up landing on, it just worked out better have an 84 inch one that sat right in the middle.
00:12:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:12:48
Adam
So then you guys that have multiple pieces of equipment, right? it was more flexible. So you could use it on multiple machines. So we made the decision. Let's just do the 84 inch serves that purpose.
00:13:00
Adam
And then we have a 60-inch, right? As people are getting into some smaller machines, articulating machines, different options that are out there, we have a 60-inch option as well when it comes to that hydraulic snowblower.
00:13:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yes, you
00:13:11
Adam
And it's key. I said hydraulic snowblower for a reason.
00:13:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah she did
00:13:15
RICK JAMES
Yeah, he did.
00:13:18
Adam
That's where we were at.
00:13:20
The SnowJobs Podcast
So that product is pretty much nailed Like you said it's at the end of the line of improvements That can be made it's pretty much As close to perfect as it can get So what is the next step for muskox What are you here to tell us today?
00:13:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh
00:13:33
Adam
Well, we just said we were hydraulic. And if I had a dollar for everybody that called and said, this thing is the coolest thing in the world. You need to make it for a tractor. We need a PTO. Well, I'm very proud to say to you gentlemen and to the world, to the, everybody listen to this, the Muskox Mafia has stepped up the game and has entered the inverted world.
00:14:01
Adam
So we have an...
00:14:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Wow, nice.
00:14:02
Adam
yeah
00:14:03
RICK JAMES
That's great.
00:14:04
Adam
An 82-inch galvanized inverted blower that has the muskox touch on it.
00:14:04
RICK JAMES
that's awesome.
00:14:11
Adam
Our stuff looks cool. Like, right, we just got a cool factor.
00:14:14
RICK JAMES
It does.
00:14:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
You did.
00:14:16
Adam
Maybe because I wasn't the cool kid growing up and always wanted to be cool, like Ricky James over there.
00:14:20
RICK JAMES
but
00:14:22
Adam
I didn't run with his crew when I was growing
00:14:22
RICK JAMES
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:14:35
Adam
It's an inverted blower, 82 inches. We listened. Like I was saying, if I had a dollar for every person that called and asked that, I'd have a lot of dollar bills buried in probably coffee cans in my backyard.
00:14:45
RICK JAMES
Yep. would
00:14:49
Adam
So we listened to the public. There was a demand. There was a downtime with inverted blowers. Parts were getting hard to get. um Things are getting shipped from up north to come down.
00:15:00
Adam
There's good products out there.
00:15:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
That is true.
00:15:01
Adam
And we went, you know, number one opportunity is how do we get rid of this downtime? Part of it's just having an American-made product. You guys know how we operate.
00:15:12
Adam
Stuff goes on. Somebody calls us if they need anything from us. It's going out the door that day. right Stuff's going to show up in 24 to 48 hours.
00:15:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:15:21
Adam
We're getting it out to the customers. So that created this huge opportunity for us that let's check that box. We know we can successfully do that. Now let's take a look at that inverted blower and see what people don't like. I'm going to start with number one thing that we heard over and over again was the downtime associated with sheer bolts.
00:15:41
Adam
When you watch the other equipment, they would be proud because they would be building little containers
00:15:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh yeah
00:15:42
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:15:48
Adam
on the machine that was holding extra your shear bolts, right? And they're in your pocket, your hands get cold.
00:15:51
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:15:53
Adam
I can tell a story on another snowblower where I was out running snow, and it was kept snowing. It was 20 below in North Dakota, and I was almost in tears because my fingers hurt so freaking bad from getting out and doing that stuff, smelling in a snowbank, all those type of things.
00:16:10
Adam
we We're changing the game. There is no shear bolts on our auger.
00:16:14
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice that alone is huge that alone is absolutely huge
00:16:19
Adam
And how the hell did we do that? Right?
00:16:22
RICK JAMES
Yeah, no doubt.
00:16:22
Adam
So that's going to be the question. How did you do that? Well, we got Ron.
00:16:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
You got Ron you got Ron and
00:16:27
Adam
We got Ron.
00:16:28
RICK JAMES
You got wrong.
00:16:29
RICK JAMES
ah ah
00:16:29
Adam
We have Ron, and everybody will listen to this.
00:16:32
Adam
Ron, along with a lot of other talented engineers that are around Ron now, right? So, yes, it's Ron and that entire team in this company of how do we change that?
00:16:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome.
00:16:37
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:16:43
Adam
So our CFO, his name is Bob. He uses a line quite often. He says, we paid 80% of the tuition already. Like you'll find things where, where have we paid 80% of the tuition already?
00:16:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:16:55
Adam
um We didn't have to reinvent the wheel. We learned a lot with that snowblower by improving it. So there's not a huge difference between a hydraulic blower and a PTO at the end of the day.
00:17:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:17:05
Adam
You've got to blow snow. You can't break down. right? You can't scratch surfaces. You got to get a good scrape. Like, I mean, we're checking all these boxes. Like we're not far off to working on this inverted blower.
00:17:17
Adam
So in my opinion, we've been working on this inverted blower for eight years because so much of what is in that snowblower is in that inverted blower.
00:17:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, there you go. Yep.
00:17:22
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. Yep.
00:17:26
Adam
Well, what we learned on snowblowers is that a hydraulic motor works great for spinning the auger. All things being equal, The PTO shaft is phenomenal to spin the fan, right?
00:17:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
yep
00:17:40
Adam
Because there's just, you don't have to have extra motors for that fan.
00:17:41
RICK JAMES
you
00:17:43
Adam
You don't have to size them. It's just, they come out. They're 540 coming out of that PTO shaft. Let's take advantage of that. And then let's know what we already know, which is we know hydraulic motors for the auger.
00:17:55
Adam
So now we can have a hydraulic motor that sits and it just runs that auger. So there's no shear bolts to it. then we have a backup. So there is one shear bolt.
00:18:04
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:18:05
Adam
The shear bolt is on the PTO shaft, which you're not going to run anything that you need
00:18:07
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay, which you need anyway. Yeah.
Market Strategy and Product Features
00:18:10
Adam
in there.
00:18:10
Adam
Because if that ended up, you need that as a backup.
00:18:10
RICK JAMES
that
00:18:12
Adam
So that is not an issue, hardly ever.
00:18:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:18:15
Adam
It is in that auger. And that's why we're able to achieve that. And I'm just so excited to say that to everybody because I know that downtime safety too.
00:18:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's phenomenal.
00:18:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:18:25
Adam
Christ, you're getting in and out of that machine, slips and falls and it's cold. And like we talked about the hands and Things happen when you're fixing things at break. It's one thing when you fix something in a shop.
00:18:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah.
00:18:38
Adam
It's something completely different when you're out in the cold, in the dark, dealing with all that.
00:18:38
RICK JAMES
Well,
00:18:44
Adam
That's when bad things happen. So we're very excited about that.
00:18:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
That is awesome. Good for you guys. And that's that's a huge market that's evolving now because, like, we've said it on the show numerous times. If there's young guys that come to me and say, hey, I really want to get into commercial snow in New York, I tell them, listen,
00:19:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Don't start there. Start with the driveway game. Like, get yourself a tractor, get yourself a blower, and and start there.
00:19:11
RICK JAMES
right.
00:19:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Pick up an entire neighborhood, even if you do it a little cheaper the first year or two, to get a foothold. You get 50, 60 driveways, you're you're making mad bank, and your insurance rates in New York, insurance is the biggest biggest expense we have for snow.
00:19:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
your insurance rates are going to be vastly different doing residentials and no commercials. So that I think, and it's much cheaper to buy a 40, 50 horsepower tractor than is to buy a skid, you know so that I think it's a, I think it's a huge market. That's just going to keep growing. So that's awesome that you guys are coming in at the right time.
00:19:46
Adam
We're going to give you the opportunity on 40 to 70 horsepower.
00:19:47
RICK JAMES
Huge market.
00:19:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, nice. Nice.
00:19:51
Adam
So when you got the tractor, our fan is bigger than everybody else's. Everybody else is 26 inch fan or 32 inch fan. So we can get on some of these bigger tractors, but you're spot on. You take an aerial view.
00:20:02
Adam
Like right now, if we were really embracing modern technology, we could probably have a drone flying over the town I live in right now with 60,000 people, or I could go south to where Ricky James is at with 200,000 people.
00:20:15
Adam
And there is driveways everywhere, right?
00:20:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Everywhere.
00:20:19
Adam
And we're we're here to dominate those driveways.
00:20:19
RICK JAMES
yeah. Yep.
00:20:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Target get rich environment.
00:20:23
Adam
If you have a skid steer, great. We got our Muscox traditional hydraulic blower. If you have a tractor, if that's what you how you want to build your business, we're there to support you with that.
00:20:35
Adam
And we're here to dominate driveways because that opportunity is not going away.
00:20:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:20:40
Adam
It's going to continue to grow because, and you guys know that,
00:20:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, absolutely.
00:20:42
RICK JAMES
oh no
00:20:45
Adam
Everybody's got these working families and they're running around with kids and all the things.
00:20:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:20:47
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:20:48
Adam
Like ah you walk out 20 years ago in a cul-de-sac of 10 homes. Maybe one person was hiring that to get their snow removed. Maybe two.
00:20:58
RICK JAMES
Yep. Yep.
00:20:59
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:20:59
Adam
shit Now it's eight of them that are getting that done.
00:21:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Or yeah, four or five of them were hiring that 13 year old kid with a shovel that was shoveling all the driveways that doesn't exist anymore.
00:21:02
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:21:08
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:21:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know, and now everybody, like you said, everybody's a two income family. People are not going to wake up an extra hour earlier 4 a.m.
00:21:13
Adam
Mm-hmm.
00:21:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
m when they're already getting up at five to shovel their driveway. If it's easy enough to pay somebody else to do it and have it done on time. It's it's definitely definitely an untapped market or a lightly tapped market at this point.
00:21:29
Adam
Yeah, it's I mean, opportunity is knocking.
00:21:30
RICK JAMES
Yes.
00:21:31
Adam
And we highly suggest that just like you guys, if anybody's looking to get it in, big businesses are starting to lean into that, right? Because it's ah it's a controllable. They know what they got, what they're dealing with, not dealing with the insurances.
00:21:43
Adam
And now if you want to get into the tractor game and do that, you don't got the shear bolts with it. A couple other things, like people are going to care, listen to this, like what else did muskox do to it, right?
00:21:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay. yep
00:21:54
Adam
So we paid attention a lot.
00:21:54
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:21:56
Adam
A lot of people are like, we have to be able to recycle snow, right? Because we can't necessarily blow at certain points. We might have a car to our right and we might have the neighbor's garage to the left.
00:22:09
Adam
So we have to be able to blow snow in between
00:22:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
okay
00:22:14
Adam
the inverted blower and in between the tractor. Right. So there's that space. What we saw is when you blew into that snow was still getting outside in the machine.
00:22:19
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:22:24
Adam
So we changed that. So in our shroud, our shroud is wider than everybody else. We actually have a big cutout. It's roughly like 20 inches by 24 inches, give take.
00:22:38
Adam
And now if you want to recycle that snow, you can actually, because our chute, you can damn near blow the snow right back into the chute. You can come straight down and blow that snow right into a hopper on either side of it.
00:22:53
Adam
So you're recycling it right into the machine. That came because we were listening to what people wanted.
00:23:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Adam, do you want to just spend a second?
00:23:00
RICK JAMES
Nice.
00:23:01
The SnowJobs Podcast
you You said recycle snow for a non-inverted blower guy like myself and and guys out there that are not familiar with the inverted game. I know Jeremy knows a lot about it. Can you you want to spend a minute just talking about what that recycled snow is and why that's important in that game?
00:23:17
Adam
Yeah, so when you're running these machines, it's all about snow management, right? You're managing where that pile of snow is going. So say I'm coming and I'm going, i have a 10-foot pass that I'm making, right? for So 10 feet of the driveway,
00:23:30
Adam
I cannot blow, I cannot put it on the left side of the machine or the right side of the machine.
00:23:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay. Gotcha.
00:23:35
Adam
I just want to keep on recycling and keep re-blowing it into it.
00:23:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
ahchin
00:23:40
Adam
So now when I'm in a spot, now I can manage my snow more effectively and I can put that snow where I want it. So it's in the shroud. You guys will see that. It's really neat. It's built in.
00:23:50
Adam
There's hoppers around it that blow into each side of the machine. So that is that is another area that we we listen to and we're able to ah offer to our customers.
00:24:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Gotcha. So you need to be able to collect it, basically.
00:24:00
RICK JAMES
So
00:24:03
The SnowJobs Podcast
got you. Okay, cool.
00:24:04
RICK JAMES
so when you're recycling that snow, does it is it get tougher? Because I know when I recycle snow with our big blower, it really bogs machine down. Does it bog your machine down much? or
00:24:16
Adam
I mean, that that'll be a challenge with any of them because if you get too much snow in there at some point, so this isn't something that
00:24:19
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:24:22
RICK JAMES
Because it gets so fine.
00:24:24
Adam
yeah Yeah, exactly. If you were recycling for, if you had one or two inches of snow, you could go a long ways of doing that. If we were going through 10 inches of snow, it starts to fill that in faster.
00:24:30
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:24:33
Adam
So at some point it's a diminishing return, but it gives that opportunity more often than not when they, and they don't have to do that all the time, but we want that opportunity when they do need to do that.
00:24:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sure.
00:24:34
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:24:42
RICK JAMES
Right.
00:24:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Amen.
00:24:45
RICK JAMES
And like you said, it's only usually a few feet anyway, so yeah.
00:24:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome.
00:24:48
Adam
Yeah. And then I touched on the touch in a little bit earlier where we're also pretty wild.
00:24:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome.
00:24:53
Adam
We talked about how we want to be able to run the auger slower than the fan, right? So on this machine, there is actually a knob that sits on the on the inverted blower, and you can actually control the speed of the auger to whatever you want to run.
00:25:00
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:25:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, so you can turn it up and down.
00:25:13
Adam
You turn it up and down. So it's always going to be the fastest that auger can spin is going to be whatever the PTO shaft is running. So whatever you're revving up that tractor to, that auger will spin as fast as that fan is moving.
00:25:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:25:29
Adam
But if you go out and that can work in some conditions, great, right? You got dry snow and you want to go out and you're revving that up, but you know fuel's pretty expensive right now.
00:25:38
Adam
So like let's say you're gearing things down and you're running through and you're in wet snow, right?
00:25:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:25:39
RICK JAMES
Thank you.
00:25:43
Adam
and You're dealing with that. you can actually go on to that and you can adjust that speed all the way down to zero. But there will be markings on it, suggestions, and it'll show the the speed that it's rotating at. And you can adjust that thing down. So these operators that are out there, because it's different in New York.
00:26:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah.
00:26:02
Adam
And it is in North Dakota with snow, like we said earlier. So you can actually adjust that speed down. So you're going to find that perfect condition snow because snow is different throughout the year too. In New York, it's different in October than it is in January than it is in March, right?
00:26:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:26:17
Adam
so So now I can take the same thing everywhere in the United States.
00:26:17
RICK JAMES
Nice.
00:26:20
Adam
I can actually adjust the speed of that auger to find out my rhythm that's making me most efficient. And I think that's going be really neat. Operators will control their destiny when it comes to that.
00:26:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
And that doesn't, i again, I'm not an inverted blower guy, but that's not that doesn't exist on anything else inverted that's out there right now? Wow.
00:26:39
Adam
Not that I've seen.
00:26:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice. Wow.
00:26:43
Adam
We like to check boxes.
00:26:43
RICK JAMES
nice
00:26:45
Adam
We like the wow factor, right?
00:26:46
RICK JAMES
yeah you do.
00:26:47
Adam
like we want we we Like we like to be cool.
00:26:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
You do.
00:26:47
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:26:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
You definitely do.
00:26:50
Adam
Like I told you guys when I ran into you one time, I said we went from the coolest blower out there. Our branding was cool. Everything looked cool. We went from cool to the best. And I truly believe that with that snow blower.
00:27:01
Adam
And then we paid 80% of the tuition.
00:27:02
RICK JAMES
ye
00:27:03
Adam
We know what we're doing now. And that inverted blower is just going to hit the ground running for everybody that's out there. We also incorporated, everybody says scrape. I want a better scrape. How do I get a better scrape, right?
00:27:16
Adam
um So we have a product called the Max Attach that's going to be hitting the market in May.
00:27:17
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:27:22
Adam
Jeremy had one of the very first prototypes that he broke in a video for us.
00:27:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:27:26
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:27:27
Adam
And we went, oh my God, how did that happen?
00:27:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's what he does. That's what he does. that's what he does
00:27:32
Adam
yeah Well, everybody says, I'm hard.
00:27:33
RICK JAMES
i I didn't break it.
00:27:35
Adam
Well, somebody broke it and we're watching it.
00:27:37
RICK JAMES
We had like four of them. Only one broke. So.
00:27:39
Adam
So Ron and I are watching that video. And if you guys are watching this, not just listening, I'm covering my eyes right now.
00:27:43
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:27:45
Adam
we're watching that video and we're doing the head shake and go, oh no, we got to get better at
Innovations in Snow Product Attachments
00:27:50
Adam
that. And luckily it was a prototype and we did improve on, we did improve on that.
00:27:52
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:27:54
Adam
So we had to, uh, we went from, uh, grade six bolts to grade eight bolts to just welding it. So It came a long ways in a couple areas. of Anyway, within that max attach, because it allows things to follow the contour of the ground.
00:28:09
Adam
So everybody's doing that on attachments. we change We change the game by actually putting it on the skid steer.
00:28:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome.
00:28:15
Adam
So that max attach goes right on the quick attach plate. You just leave the damn thing on there. It's got an electronic actuator, so you can hit a button in your cab, so you can go hook up your equipment, stay inside the skid steer, which is pretty wild.
00:28:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
that's awesome
00:28:28
Adam
It's got pins for a locking mechanism so I can take out the torsion if I want to set grade. But the idea of that was that we just basically put a suspension system that allowed each one of your arms to work completely independently from the skid steer.
00:28:42
Adam
Because a quick attach plate, right, that's stationary. You either go up or you go down with it.
00:28:45
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, that's awesome.
00:28:46
RICK JAMES
Great.
00:28:48
Adam
Now we allow that quick attach plate to actually oscillate, right?
00:28:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
thats awesome
00:28:53
Adam
So think of every cool attachment out there is put it on the attachment. We're saying, hey, let's let's put it on the skid steer. So now every attachment has the opportunity to do that. And if you do have an attachment that is offering something where it's trying to float or do that, it just enhances that experience.
00:29:09
Adam
Anyway, that's the max attached. Different conversation for all you landscapers. Check that damn thing out. If you're running Harley rakes, roller packers, pushers.
00:29:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep. yep
00:29:17
RICK JAMES
It works. It works great.
00:29:19
Adam
Yeah, Jeremy, you can talk about it. It's phenomenal.
00:29:22
RICK JAMES
Yeah, I think definitely but works great. And Harley rake, I know a lot of guys, a few of my guys around here have been using them. when they They love them. they It just makes it, like you say, oscillating to the ground, it's it's just it just changes the game. for Instead of being rigid, you actually have some movement there.
00:29:37
RICK JAMES
So that's fantastic.
00:29:39
Adam
Yeah. The finish work. I mean, it's yeah.
00:29:40
RICK JAMES
I remember when you told me about it, think we coming back from equip I just talked to you.
00:29:44
Adam
And the airport.
00:29:44
RICK JAMES
and I talked you on the plane. Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about So, yeah.
00:29:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
And now you guys have adapted this to the tractor to be able to use.
00:29:49
Adam
Now, now you're talking. Yes. You, you led me into this and you're spot on. So what that, what allows that max attached to work is it's patent pending. It's our access torsion technology, right?
00:30:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:30:03
Adam
So that is, uh, We all know torsion from trailers, right? Like torsion axles. And we're able to take ours and we incorporated it into the inverted blower.
00:30:17
Adam
So on the front end of the inverted blower, right, coming off the three-point, because that's not a plate, coming off that three-point, it's actually built right into the inverted blower.
00:30:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:30:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh.
00:30:28
Adam
So you'll see videos of it. So now what that does is like we heard over and over, one of our biggest challenges is that we go from the driveway, which we want to dominate driveways. You go from the driveway out to the street.
00:30:40
Adam
There's always a dip that I come out of, right?
00:30:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sure.
00:30:43
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:30:43
Adam
And that's tough to be able to keep that down pressure, to be able to slide through that because the wheels of my tractor are telling me something different than what my inverted blower is experiencing.
00:30:56
Adam
So now this creates down pressure away from the tractor. So it's pushing down using that torsion, right? Like it's trying to grab that ground.
00:31:05
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:31:06
Adam
So now when I come out of that dip, I'm keeping better engaged to the ground so that I'm able to continue this scrape.
00:31:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, so this isn't so you guys have actually taken that and put it into the blower. It's not like a separate attachment. You got to put between the three point and the blower. It's actually on the blower.
00:31:25
Adam
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah.
00:31:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, that's awesome.
00:31:28
Adam
So the max attach is because that's for ah a plate, right?
00:31:29
RICK JAMES
We have.
00:31:32
Adam
So if we're on the front of a tractor, you would use a max attach. If we're on a skid steer, use a max attach. But when you're on the back on a three-point, that's a whole different deal. There's no plate.
00:31:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sure.
00:31:41
Adam
So it's incorporated right into that 2782i Muskox snowblower, available available on pre-order until April 30th, 2026.
00:31:49
The SnowJobs Podcast
that's all That's awesome. Wow, man, this isn't this isn't fair.
00:31:56
RICK JAMES
great What other secrets you got for us on this thing? I'm sure you got a lot more, huh?
00:32:04
Adam
I love all those points today, and we'll have other ones that you guys will all start to see with it. We talked about, oh, there is one more thing. I think there used to be a famous guy that used to say that when he came out with cell phones.
00:32:19
Adam
One more thing. I need to wear black shirts. He's just a lot smarter than I was. um On our fan. So compacted snow, right? So you hear about this over and over again.
00:32:31
Adam
We're doing driveways. The city comes through, pushes all that snow right back into the into the driveway, right? We all know what I'm talking about there. So that gets to be a lot of snow that comes through.
00:32:42
Adam
So when you have your fan, right? Every other inverted blower out there has a fan, and that fan has back plate to it, like a piece of steel, and it comes down.
00:32:51
The SnowJobs Podcast
okay
00:32:52
Adam
six to eight inches, we'll call it, right? So if you guys can imagine that the backside of the fan, everybody that knows inverted knows exactly what I'm talking about.
00:32:56
RICK JAMES
yep
00:33:01
Adam
That's a piece of steel right there. This was the mad scientist. Ron said, well, why don't we take that out? You know, there's a few things I told him that very important that we achieve with this. But that part didn't even think about it. He says, why don't we just take that steel out? So now when we're going through that compacted snow, that snow in the middle of the machine is coming right into the fan.
00:33:24
Adam
doesn't even have to go underneath and go into the auger to get to the fan to go out to shoot. What if it just came right into the fan? And I said, ah that'll never work. Like it's going snow is going to come out the side. I, i know no, no, Ron, I don't think that's good. it No, I believe it. It will work.
00:33:41
Adam
So anyway, lo and behold, put it on there and we tested it, run it first few times It's working. It's taking in the compacted snow. Some snow is going off to the side.
00:33:51
Adam
We put a little shield on the one side. It was only a four inch spot. We put a little bit different shield on the one side and it fricking worked like all that snow in that compact has got right into the fan immediately.
00:34:05
Adam
Like why, why would it not just go right to the fan? It's one of those things that, uh, until you see it, you try it and you're like, Oh, that makes common sense.
00:34:15
The SnowJobs Podcast
I would always bet on Ron.
00:34:16
Adam
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would too.
00:34:17
RICK JAMES
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
would always bet on him.
00:34:18
Adam
I would too.
00:34:19
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God. That's awesome.
00:34:20
Adam
I don't know if he made the smartest children, but he sure as hell knows how to manufacture things.
00:34:26
RICK JAMES
ah er
00:34:28
Adam
So that was that's pretty darn wild wild with it. So yeah, we're we're really proud of that feature as well.
00:34:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
This is already sounding very unfair to other inverted blowers out there.
00:34:36
RICK JAMES
That's sweet.
00:34:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Cause I mean, like I said, I'm not an inverted guy, but this is a, this is something I've, I've learned a little bit about and nobody else has this stuff. Like this is like, why I don't understand why hasn't anybody else done this and now they can't cause Muscox beat them to it.
00:34:54
Adam
Yeah, right on.
00:34:54
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:34:54
Adam
And it's crazy how sometimes when you get a fresh perspective of doing something right, you you come in and you listen to people.
00:34:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's true. That is true.
00:35:02
Adam
And then, like I said, with our our blower before, we proved that we just we were going to change things right away. we weren't going to stick on it, stay in a lane. We got a talented team behind us that allows that to happen.
00:35:14
Adam
We have operators that believe in us that have allowed us to make these changes and trusted us along the way. So we're just able to look at things different. We also, um I should say this is something that Ron was very adamant on, is typically when you have inverted blowers, there's bars that come across and it's for structural support.
00:35:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:35:37
Adam
So they they come across so they'll start at the middle of the machine and they run angle all the way down. Our engineers spent a lot of time making this structurally sound so we didn't need those bars.
00:35:49
Adam
We reinforce the steel in other areas. So now we don't have those bars coming down.
00:35:53
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:35:55
Adam
So that takes away the resistance of when you're going through those bigger snow piles that it's pushing back, that's making your machine work harder, right? Like this is going to save on fuel. Like you're just, you're not, you're not working the machine as hard to get through that because that resistance isn't there. Everything is wide open in order for the snow to be able to collect.
00:36:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Nice. Well, go ahead, Jay.
00:36:18
RICK JAMES
whatever you We've seen some sneak peeks of this thing. and the i mean you know All the young guys, they love the cool looking shit. This is one sexy looking blower.
00:36:28
RICK JAMES
This thing is things looks pretty badass.
00:36:32
Adam
Well, that gold shoot does stick out, right?
00:36:32
The SnowJobs Podcast
Definitely.
00:36:35
RICK JAMES
yeah Explain that to the guys.
00:36:35
Adam
So it...
00:36:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
um Oh, yeah.
00:36:37
RICK JAMES
Yeah, that's just
00:36:38
Adam
So...
00:36:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well...
00:36:38
Adam
ahead, Steve.
00:36:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
The problem is I think you the only thing this just did was I think it created a lot more questions than we have answers for right here. is there Can we do something else? Can we do like ah like a webinar or something where we can see videos of this thing in action for people that are interested in stuff like that? Or like, i don't know, how it's built type deal?
00:36:59
Adam
If guys are in... I'm in.
00:37:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, we're definitely in on that.
00:37:03
Adam
So if you're in on that, I think that's a great idea.
00:37:04
RICK JAMES
Yeah, definitely.
00:37:06
Adam
You guys have it.
00:37:06
The SnowJobs Podcast
Well, because I already see we're going to drop this, and I already see my phone's not going to stop for about three days.
00:37:07
Adam
oh
00:37:12
The SnowJobs Podcast
we move Can you ask this question? Can you ask this question? And then there we go. There's my next three days of just going back and forth with with you and guys answering questions that the the listeners have.
00:37:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
So if we could just do something like a webinar or something and you know show them videos, show them what you want to show them as far as how it's built, what questions they have, you know we can probably get that done, and that would save us both a lot of time.
00:37:36
Adam
Hell, let's get behind the scenes. We can get some CAD drawings on there, if you guys think that's a good idea.
00:37:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, sweet. yeah Absolutely.
00:37:41
RICK JAMES
Oh, that'd be sweet.
00:37:41
Adam
Show it up close.
Branding and Manufacturing Philosophy
00:37:42
Adam
And then we'll try to embrace modern technology.
00:37:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sweet.
00:37:44
Adam
And maybe we'll even have where we could have a camera set up where we're looking at the machine and looking at the CAD drawings. like We'll see if we can pull that all off. If it doesn't,
00:37:53
RICK JAMES
Yeah, it'd be badass.
00:37:53
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's on you then.
00:37:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's not going to be on me.
00:37:56
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:37:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
that That'll be on you.
00:37:57
Adam
it won't be on me either, because I won't figure it out.
00:37:58
The SnowJobs Podcast
yeah
00:37:59
Adam
But we'll find somebody to blame if we can't pull off all the technology to it.
00:38:02
The SnowJobs Podcast
I love it.
00:38:04
Adam
But it'd be pretty cool.
00:38:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
00:38:05
Adam
And, you know, I'm i'm writing, i there is something else.
00:38:10
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay.
00:38:10
Adam
And Christ, I said one more thing.
00:38:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
What else you got?
00:38:11
RICK JAMES
I just,
00:38:12
Adam
I'm going to one more thing that I think people are going to go, boo, this is amazing. ah We change the game when it comes to the shoot. So it's called the Venturi effect.
00:38:21
RICK JAMES
yeah, you did.
00:38:23
Adam
Are either of you ah familiar with that?
00:38:24
RICK JAMES
Now we're getting scientific.
00:38:25
Adam
We're getting very scientific. Do you guys remember that from eighth grade science at all?
00:38:28
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep, absolutely. But go ahead anyway.
00:38:30
Adam
Well, I see one person said yes, and the other person was probably in detention at that time, so he missed that day of more...
00:38:30
RICK JAMES
Absolutely not.
00:38:35
RICK JAMES
Yeah, i fuck. I must have been not around that day.
00:38:38
The SnowJobs Podcast
He was combining.
00:38:39
RICK JAMES
I'm sure I i was in trouble somewhere. I was combining.
00:38:42
Adam
Missed that day. You're out running that combine.
00:38:44
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:38:45
Adam
So Venturi effect has to do with like if you bring air in different positions like to blow something out of ah a tube. So if you're taking a tennis ball and you're running in ah in a tube and you're just taking the force to push that thing out at one end, that tennis ball is going to go X, right?
00:39:04
Adam
It's whatever distance that's going to do.
00:39:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:39:07
Adam
If you take that and you bring air in from the side and you bring air from the bottom, right, so you're creating more air force that's going out, it's 5x the distance that's going to blow.
00:39:19
Adam
I've never seen anybody else do it. um And we were testing in wood chips, actually, on a snowblower. And I was watching run Ron run it in the summer because that's a great opportunity for us to to test year round.
00:39:32
Adam
And it was had been running a grill. And on the grill, it was on a Weber grill because they, to me, make the best burgers.
00:39:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
They do.
00:39:40
Adam
So I'm on the top, I'm adjusting the the top, and then I always got to go on the bottom, right?
00:39:42
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:39:45
Adam
And I got to open the holes on the bottom to get the coals really cooking.
00:39:48
RICK JAMES
you
00:39:49
Adam
So in my mind, I'm going, you know, there's got to be something similar to that when it comes to the chute. Like, what if we have air coming through the bottom of it? And Ron will tell the story. I told him, I think we should somehow incorporate a hole on the bottom of the chute so we can get air coming through to help push push the snow out better, both on our hydraulic blower and this inverted blower.
00:40:11
Adam
And he said, that's a stupid idea. And I, okay. So then anyway, he's just, he's out running it a little bit.
00:40:17
RICK JAMES
Wait. Oh.
00:40:20
Adam
And then he, well, he listened to me and he went and tried and he cut a hole out and started monkeying with it. Cause it was a job to be able to do this. So he does it. And then he was out testing without me and he called and he goes, ah, you are right.
00:40:33
Adam
This thing kicks ass having this hole.
00:40:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, no shit.
00:40:35
Adam
Like I can't believe how much farther the snow is blowing. So anyway, it's called the Venturi effect. It'll be on our, on all of our blowers moving forward. But, It makes sense, right? You have extra air that's coming from underneath.
00:40:49
Adam
And then we also opened up where the snow comes in. And this was Ron, where the snow comes in on the fan. Everything's always pushing to such a small hole. That makes sense, right?
00:41:01
Adam
You have your fan and every snowblower comes and It's just such a tight compartment. It's trying to get all that snow. So we started releasing the snow into the chute faster by opening up that hole.
00:41:12
Adam
That got the snow, that got more air coming into it. So we have the air on the side, air on the bottom, pushing it out. So that helps with plugging. That helps with a lot of things. It helps with snow management, better stream, all the things with the snow coming out. So that's that's pretty wild. And that is on the twenty seven eighty two i inverted snowblower.
00:41:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
That's awesome. Wow, you guys just keep coming up with new shit.
00:41:35
RICK JAMES
That's cool.
00:41:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's awesome.
00:41:37
RICK JAMES
And you've got something over on Ron. That's weird.
00:41:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:40
RICK JAMES
that happen very often?
00:41:41
Adam
Well, ah oh, damn right.
00:41:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
How'd that taste coming out of his mouth?
00:41:46
Adam
A few things on it, like ah I did the leveling wheel on the snowblower to help people, and he had the hardest time even ever telling anybody about that thing because it came through ah through, as they call me.
00:41:57
Adam
They call me the steak and lobster guy because like that's what they call sales and marketing guys, our engineering team.
00:42:02
RICK JAMES
you know.
00:42:02
Adam
So then it's the steak and lobster guys come walking in and have opinions on it. But yeah, it's just, it's a collective team, right? What's neat about that and the relationship that I have with Ron, who is my father, right?
00:42:14
Adam
And all the engineers in this entire company is that to what you said earlier, why the hell hadn't somebody else done some of these things before? because we all come from a unique perspective, right?
00:42:23
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:42:25
Adam
Like I can't go weld that, you know, I don't have that ability.
00:42:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
True.
00:42:28
Adam
I don't have the CAD drawing ability, either does Ron. We have CAD drawers that work for us now is it takes all these different abilities. But when you look at things from a different view, it's fantastic.
00:42:41
Adam
Like there's that old story and like I'll screw it up, but there's like a semi truck that was going through and it got wedged into as a coming down the road and nobody could figure out how are we going to get this thing pulled out of there and nobody could figure it out. It's wedged in. We can't pull it out because of the pressure on it. And an eight-year-old kid walked up and said, well, let the air out of the tires.
00:43:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yep.
00:43:05
Adam
Right? So it comes from from different people all the time.
00:43:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
True.
00:43:09
Adam
Like just here's different ways of looking at things and how the hell a Weber grill turned into a a better way to do a shoot on a snowblower is just the way the world works.
00:43:21
The SnowJobs Podcast
Definitely wouldn't hurt to get Weber grills to sponsor us.
00:43:24
Adam
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right.
00:43:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, my God.
00:43:25
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:43:27
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh
00:43:28
Adam
They have a much bigger checking account than I have, that's for damn sure.
00:43:29
RICK JAMES
Oh
00:43:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
oh my god they
00:43:32
Adam
Maybe not Ricky James' checkbook, but bigger than mine for sure.
00:43:33
The SnowJobs Podcast
old woman
00:43:35
RICK JAMES
yeah, you got it. Yeah.
00:43:37
The SnowJobs Podcast
Oh, man. Well, that's that's awesome. that is i'm I'm excited for you guys.
00:43:40
RICK JAMES
Sounds great.
00:43:41
The SnowJobs Podcast
I mean, you guys kill it.
00:43:42
RICK JAMES
This thing is badass.
00:43:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
So, yeah, this thing is – I'm excited for it.
00:43:45
RICK JAMES
oh
00:43:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
I'm excited for all the guys in the inverted game because they're going to love this thing. It sounds awesome. Good for you guys.
00:43:51
Adam
And Jeremy said it early, made in America, like made in the U.S., we're very proud of that, right?
00:43:53
RICK JAMES
Maine America. Yeah.
00:43:58
Adam
All of our stuff we source through American vendors, we just we're we're proud of that. And it just allows for a quick turnaround for us to get everything out to customers. And Jeremy said it earlier, it looks sexy. um That gold chute, it's zinced.
00:44:13
Adam
I don't know anybody else that's ever done that before. It's zinc and yellow, but we call it gold. When I was growing up, I thought I was going to play in the NFL. When I was eight years old, I was going to be the next Tommy Kramer.
00:44:26
Adam
Anyway, I've drank beer with Tommy Kramer now because he hangs out the bars in Minnesota, but I i never made it made it to the NFL.
00:44:31
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sure.
00:44:33
RICK JAMES
halfway there.
00:44:33
Adam
Yeah, yeah, right, right. Part of it I made. But i never made it onto that pro football field with that at all. But i remember watching football when I was a kid and watching Notre Dame, and that gold helmet always stuck out to me.
00:44:46
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:44:46
Adam
And anyway, then this. It wasn't just the look was part of it, but also was the material. So being able to zinc in yellow, and we'll just call it gold, the golden chute, it has a salt life on it that's pretty long.
00:45:00
Adam
So it complements what we're doing with the galvanized. So it's not paint on it. It's zinced. And there's a couple spots that have that, but that shoot. So you're going to see if you want to know if somebody is running a muskox next winter long, it's going to stand out pretty damn fast because you're going to see that gold shoot from 100 yards away out there running and dominating driveways throughout the United States.
00:45:13
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:45:26
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, well, I mean, nothing looks like Moscox anyway.
00:45:26
RICK JAMES
Fleet of all is going on the road. look pretty badass, man.
00:45:30
Adam
Yeah, it looks pretty cool. So yeah, go on to our Facebook page, our social media, like it, anybody that hasn't liked it already, and you'll see a bunch of photos and see all of those things with it in action, and then just also the aesthetic look to it.
00:45:44
The SnowJobs Podcast
Awesome. And we're going to do a deep dive, definitely.
00:45:46
Adam
Yeah, i'm I'm all in.
00:45:47
The SnowJobs Podcast
guys are in?
00:45:48
Adam
Like, oh, Chris, I'm looking forward to this.
00:45:48
The SnowJobs Podcast
Sweet.
00:45:49
Adam
Like, this will be fun. And also, I think what we'll do with that is we're going to pull Ron in on that one.
00:45:55
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah, absolutely.
00:45:55
Adam
right? Get him.
00:45:56
The SnowJobs Podcast
100%.
00:45:56
Adam
He always says, you handle these things, but let's get him involved.
00:45:56
RICK JAMES
Mm-hmm.
00:46:00
Adam
And then it'd be kind of fun to, he'll talk, he'll explain things.
00:46:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
Love it.
00:46:05
Adam
ill I'll touch the surface of it. He'll go as deep as you guys want behind that wild brain that he has explained. We'll probably have a few of the other engineers get involved to be able to kind of explain it for the people that really want to understand some of the technical um reasons of the reason where we landed, where we landed.
00:46:23
The SnowJobs Podcast
love it
00:46:24
RICK JAMES
do we Do we want to talk about price point on this thing? Or do you want to release any of that? there
00:46:28
Adam
Yeah, I'm all in.
00:46:28
RICK JAMES
what what do you what do you what do you what are you What are you looking for on this new inverted?
00:46:29
Adam
So you get yeah you guys listen into right now, you know what inverted blowers go for. And we're we're right there. We're going to $14,995.
00:46:40
Adam
That's the galvanized. And there's nothing extra to buy. When you get a hold of us, it's not, oh, if I want to add this shoot, I got to pay this much more. Oh, if I want to add this feature, I got to add this much more.
00:46:53
Adam
We're a company that from the get-go, I just wanted an all-in price. I didn't want to have to build all these things, extra things up. And it's pretty straightforward with that. It's kind of nice. We don't have to deal with motor sizes anymore, right?
00:47:05
Adam
It's just plug, play, ready to go.
00:47:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah.
00:47:05
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:47:07
Adam
Get your tractor, 40 to 70 horsepower, $14,995 all in um on the product. And then whatever it takes to ship it to wherever you guys are in the United States.
00:47:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
Good for you guys.
00:47:18
RICK JAMES
And you said you're taking pre-orders starting April or today or?
00:47:22
Adam
Starting today, and I say today, but it turned into in the last two weeks because teaser videos did get people calling and say, get my name on the list. I want to make sure I get one.
00:47:33
Adam
I want to make sure I get 10 of them.
00:47:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
People are watching you guys.
00:47:35
Adam
It's been pretty exciting.
00:47:36
RICK JAMES
It's not a bad problem.
00:47:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
You guys are a player now.
00:47:37
RICK JAMES
That's not a bad problem.
00:47:38
Adam
It's pretty wild, but yeah, we're going to be a hard hard period and shut that off on on April 30th because it'll be a bit of a limited build this first year. It'll be a few hundred of them that end up going out there, but yeah, 14,995, get a hold of us. We'll talk about your operation.
00:47:55
Adam
find out how we fit. And I'm also finding people that have pre-ordered the inverted blower bought a hydraulic blower from us as well. You know, there's guys out there, one that I'm dealing with right now that's looking at getting 20 of them. He wants 20 of them, but he wants one snowblower because he has some needs for snow. Because there's certain applications that you absolutely need still need a traditional snowblower for as well.
00:48:16
Adam
um And then you have the other operations that they're all in on skid steers and tool cats and the different things out there.
00:48:16
RICK JAMES
Yep.
00:48:21
Adam
And we have best of market for them in that area as well.
00:48:24
The SnowJobs Podcast
Awesome Love it Anything else or we'll we'll look forward to the deep dive What's that Jake?
00:48:26
RICK JAMES
That's great. you guys You guys hit it out of the park like normal.
00:48:31
Adam
Yeah, I could sit and talk to you.
00:48:34
RICK JAMES
I just said they hit out of the park like normal. So, you know, it's at Muskox.
00:48:36
The SnowJobs Podcast
Yeah They always kill it
00:48:38
RICK JAMES
They're just solid.
00:48:40
Adam
We do what we do, and we do what we do because I said this a few times, but we listen just like every good company, right?
00:48:40
The SnowJobs Podcast
Kill it
00:48:47
Adam
You got a lot other good companies you work with. We do this because we listen to the operators, and we try to throw the ego out the window, right? At some point, we have to make a decision, make a stance on what we're going to do.
00:48:59
Adam
But our ego is pretty low and we listen to what's out there, just like all the other good companies guys work with. And it's it's you it's you too magnified by a thousand other people like you too that are out there.
00:49:11
Adam
You just have a platform, a voice for all of us to get out there. But there's Jeremy's and Steve's all over the United States that are attacking snow.
00:49:18
The SnowJobs Podcast
hundred of percent
00:49:20
Adam
And it's it's just exciting to work with us.
00:49:22
The SnowJobs Podcast
We say that all the time. We are literally just the ones with the microphones here. But, like, look at how – look at our our audience in the Snow Jobs Nation. It's it's immense and because they're all – we're all the same.
00:49:34
The SnowJobs Podcast
All snow guys are the same. we're We're all idiots. We're all doing this shit. And i don't know why we do it, but we love it, and we're hardcore into it.
00:49:42
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:49:42
The SnowJobs Podcast
and Yeah, and you guys – you definitely nailed it.
00:49:44
RICK JAMES
Way different.
00:49:46
The SnowJobs Podcast
You guys definitely listen. Even when you don't want to hear it, you listen.
00:49:48
Adam
In what?
00:49:49
RICK JAMES
Yeah.
00:49:50
The SnowJobs Podcast
You know like you definitely listen to the operators. So kudos to you guys because most people, most companies don't work like that. like it's it's a It's a cookie-cutter product, and it's going to work for this guy, but it might not work for these four guys, and they don't care.
00:50:05
The SnowJobs Podcast
You guys want to make it as close to working for everybody as possible. So kudos to you guys, and that's why you're being so successful.
00:50:12
Adam
And now we want to do all that success and just get it done a little faster.
00:50:13
RICK JAMES
yeah
00:50:16
Adam
And all the things, one, Travis, our operation guy, says that all the time to everybody, 1% better every day.
00:50:16
The SnowJobs Podcast
Love it.
00:50:24
Adam
And we did that with this product.
00:50:25
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
00:50:26
Adam
And yeah, we're just excited for the return that everybody else is going to experience with us to get things done faster, eliminate downtime, and grow together.
00:50:35
The SnowJobs Podcast
It's phenomenal, bud. Good for you guys. i I'm very happy for you guys. And now that now that this is coming out and this is, you know, a finished product for at least a couple months, um if I can make a request to Ron, I need a 36-inch wide sidewalk machine with direct drive hydraulic attachments.
00:50:53
RICK JAMES
Here we go.
00:50:54
The SnowJobs Podcast
right? So if you could come up with something, i would appreciate that.
00:50:56
Adam
I would
00:51:00
The SnowJobs Podcast
I need it in like eight months.
00:51:01
Adam
when when we When we pull Ron onto this, but I'm super excited with your guys' idea. to let's Let's get behind this and look at this thing up close with him answering some questions.
00:51:09
The SnowJobs Podcast
Absolutely.
00:51:11
Adam
Do not bring that up until the end of the conversation because we've had this conversation before.
00:51:13
The SnowJobs Podcast
Okay, will do.
00:51:15
RICK JAMES
You lose.
00:51:17
Adam
He listens to me some when I say, hey, here's this opportunity. But if he hears it from one of you guys, he'll he'll forget what we're talking about. He'll be over sketching that thing out on ah on a piece of paper.
00:51:28
Adam
I don't think it'll be a bar napkin because we won't be at the bar at that point, but we'll be at the shop and he'll have a piece of paper and he'll be doodling away and he'll go, Ron, Ron.
00:51:30
RICK JAMES
a
00:51:36
Adam
And then he'll just be so, so into drawing that, that, what you want.
00:51:39
The SnowJobs Podcast
Understood. We'll leave that till the very end.
00:51:42
RICK JAMES
uh
00:51:42
Adam
Yeah.
00:51:43
The SnowJobs Podcast
But yeah, we'll definitely, we'll set that up because we're going to need to follow this up relatively quickly with that. So we'll set that up like sometime in the next couple days to a week with you and we can get that going and give guys an in-depth view and save ourselves a lot of time going back and forth with questions, I'm sure.
00:51:57
Adam
All right, you Cowboys, keep pushing. Appreciate everything that you guys do for this this industry, making better all the time. And you guys are a driving force behind us wanting to be better at what we do.
Closing Thoughts and Future Plans
00:52:08
Adam
So we sure appreciate that. I know everybody does.
00:52:11
The SnowJobs Podcast
we appreciate you. like Like I said, Muscox and us are, we've grown hand in hand and we're, we're super excited for you guys.
00:52:12
RICK JAMES
Thank you, Adam.
00:52:17
The SnowJobs Podcast
And this is a, this is a big deal taking the next step. And you know, it's always great when you, you're out there proving you're not a one trick pony. Like, Hey, we, we perfected this and now we got this and we're just going to get, we're going to beat everybody at their game across the board.
00:52:24
Adam
Yeah. That's right.
00:52:30
The SnowJobs Podcast
So good for you guys. And we're looking forward to the, ah the in-depth thing. We'll, we'll set that up with you. And for everybody out there, thank you for listening. Thanks to Adam for all the time. congratulations to muskox keep killing it guys you're doing it the right way and that's why you're winning so uh keep it going all right snow jobs nation that is all for this product profile special thank you again the muskox for choosing to release a brand new product with the snow jobs and give it to snow jobs nation first uh you know we love these guys and we wish them nothing but the best and uh pay attention coming soon on our youtube channel for that deep dive with these guys All right, that's it.
00:53:08
The SnowJobs Podcast
Everybody have a safe week. We'll see you later. Keep pushing.
00:53:20
Adam
Thank you.