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EP125: SPURS WIN!! - Match Review + How Can Things Improve at Man United?
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Louie Easton, Viktor Ilic, Marcus Ramtohul, and Michał Czarniecki review a bizarre final which sees Spurs win their first title in 17 long years!
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Transcript
Tottenham's Historic Victory
00:00:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello, you are listening to the Daily English Premier League podcast.
00:00:46
Marcus Ramtohul
Thank you.
00:00:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we have just sun we have just seen the unprecedented, the unpredictable, something that we did not think would happen before the season began.
00:01:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Spurs. Spurs. Tottenham Hotspur. You know, that team that hasn't won anything in ages. They won a trophy. They won a trophy. And it was against Manchester United, were made which makes it even better. And currently joining me, ah who's trying not to make eye contact with me at the moment, Mikhail Tsihaniecki and Victor and Marcus as well joining me.
Manchester United's Financial Woes Deepen
00:01:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Marcus, I know you enjoyed this as well as a Liverpool fan, seeing Manchester United suffer even more. um But I'll come to Mikhail first, because I think he's the one that leads to needs to let off the most steam.
00:01:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
um What did you see tonight, Michal, from a Manchester United perspective?
00:01:45
Michał Czarniecki
ah What I saw tonight was how exactly how dreams die. ah Because let's face it, Man United losing this final.
00:01:55
Michał Czarniecki
Yes, yes. And you know you can laugh all you want. But you know when ah when we boil down to the facts and the hard numbers... That loss has just cost us way, way more than just some pride.
00:02:08
Michał Czarniecki
okay We are talking about billions of pounds that this club of debt that this club has got. And it's going to be what ah previously seemed like a mission impossible for Man United to somehow ah get some of that debt out of their books.
00:02:26
Michał Czarniecki
It now seems even more like Mission Impossible.
Ange Postecoglou's Tactical Triumph
00:02:29
Michał Czarniecki
And football-wise, I think that right now, Man United fans, I really think that and they underestimate how well Tottenham played this final and how Angeposte Koglu's, I would say, tactical master, ah like like this craft just shone through,
00:02:47
Michał Czarniecki
um ah I guess that's that's the end of Man United as we know it. I'm not sorry, but I just cannot find literally any positives for the future for this club.
00:02:59
Michał Czarniecki
And that is a super sad thing to say after so many years of legacy and so many years of history.
Emotional Reactions to the Final
00:03:09
Michał Czarniecki
I don't know, Victor, please help please help me out, mate, because I'm just...
00:03:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, it's been...
00:03:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
on, Victor, sir.
00:03:13
Viktor
I don't know. First thing first, I'm wearing a 1994 Eric Cantona jersey, and I was thinking to just wear something else for tonight tomorrow, but really heartbreaking.
00:03:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
throw it over to you.
00:03:24
Viktor
I did not expect it going to hit me this hard because I got used to the all this crap for the last 10 years. So it's pretty painful, to be honest with you. I expected this game to go exactly how Liverpool beat Spurs in and the final, just like one or two nothing hard fought the win and it was the opposite it was the Tottenham won the game that way so we were missing a lot of quality you can see i was hoping we're gonna have a hero tonight but it just didn't happen it could have gone either way yeah yeah yeah
00:03:54
Michał Czarniecki
By the way, Victor, sorry. and Sorry. Do you recognize this shirt? Sorry. Do you recognize this shirt? It was talking shirts. What is this shirt? What is it?
00:04:03
Marcus Ramtohul
Oh.
00:04:04
Viktor
Europa League Europa League Jersey
00:04:04
Michał Czarniecki
Tell me. 2021? No.
00:04:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
2017? Was it? Oh, 2021.
00:04:11
Michał Czarniecki
2021. Villarreal, Gdańsk, David De Gea missing the penalty.
00:04:14
Viktor
Yeah. yeah
00:04:16
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah, we've ever been there. We've been there before.
00:04:18
Marcus Ramtohul
wow
00:04:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I remember Alberto Moreno after that match. that was That was quite enjoyable to me. I thought you were referring to 2017, the last time Manchester United won the Europa League.
Spurs' Trophy Drought Ends
00:04:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, of course, Man United won the FA Cup only last year with Kobe Menuh and Alejandro Garnaccio.
00:04:33
Marcus Ramtohul
ye
00:04:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
scoring in the final, the good old days of Eric Ten Hag. um The last time Spurs won a trophy before ah tonight or last night, as you're listening to this, was 2008. That was the League Cup final.
00:04:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But this is actually Spurs'
00:04:51
Marcus Ramtohul
Good squad.
00:04:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
it was It was a decent squad, but this is sir Spurs' fourth European trophy. it's It's actually incredible, but you go back to ah the years, you know, the last century, they were winning stuff in, I mean, for example, the 1984 UEFA Cup final.
00:05:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I don't know the squads. um I don't know the managers that you'd have to ask a Spurs fan that. I'm just basing this off ah the zero research I did before this. I do apologise.
00:05:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
and But, you know, Marcus... how big is this for Spurs? Because this has been the centre of every cruel joke aimed at Spurs fans for 17 years.
00:05:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
You haven't won a trophy since 2008. You haven't won a trophy since this and that. You know, that comes to an end now.
00:05:37
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah, and not just the trophy. I think, you know, it's not just been the the butt of many football jokes. It's been the the subject of the very early episodes of this very podcast. You know, Spurs doing Spurs things. It's what we've become used to.
00:05:50
Marcus Ramtohul
They'll get so far then they'll fall at the last hurdle. So, To see them actually cross the line, I'm actually quite speechless. There's so much to to celebrate for these guys here.
00:06:01
Marcus Ramtohul
um we so We talked a bit before we hit record about the you know Daniel Levy being on the pitch and the Levy out protests. And I did a solo podcast about the actual detail of their manifesto.
00:06:14
Marcus Ramtohul
and Whether that would change Spurs fans' minds or if they're still you you know on that bandwagon of you know we don't need Daniel Levy in that front role. um is is yet to be decided.
00:06:26
Marcus Ramtohul
ah Feel great for Ange. You know, he's been vindicated after a really tough, tough season. He said all along, I'll always win a trophy in my second season. and um But also in terms of kind of what I was expecting today,
00:06:39
Marcus Ramtohul
I think one of the things that we've said about Ange Postacoglu's tactics has been, you know, they like to play a certain way and they don't adapt.
Tottenham's Defensive Strategy
00:06:48
Marcus Ramtohul
And I did not see Spurs sitting as deep as they did for this entire game and having very much a game plan.
00:06:49
Michał Czarniecki
Thank you.
00:06:56
Marcus Ramtohul
Because that first half, you really thought United were going to break them down. I thought it would be at least 1-0 to Man United going in. And they nicked a goal with some good movement from Brendan Johnson and defended for their lives.
00:07:10
Marcus Ramtohul
I mean, if you're watching that as a neutral, you're kind of going, well, this was an okay game. But actually, as it got towards the end and the whistle was getting closer and closer, you started to see ah real passion and a real fight.
00:07:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:07:22
Marcus Ramtohul
Players really wanted to see this over the line and they weren't going to let that story be written again. That story of, oh, we're Spurs and this is what we do. And you know I'm really pleased for Ange, for Spurs, for...
00:07:34
Marcus Ramtohul
Son, you know, they can talk about Harry Kane not winning a European trophy. I'm sure that will come up. um So, yeah. And je weirdly, just a tiny, tiny, tiny little bit of me as a Liverpool fan.
00:07:48
Marcus Ramtohul
felt quite sorry for United. I thought Maguire had a decent game, better than decent game. They had a great game. I thought Shaw was really good. Inanna started you know the game looking like he was going to be reliable.
00:08:00
Marcus Ramtohul
um And yeah, I don't know what happened, but I do believe there was a real tactical masterclass from Ange there as well.
00:08:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, we'll talk more about the match soon. um But I just want to look back at the last Spurs team that won a UEFA Cup, but as it was called then. Now, obviously, the Europa League.
00:08:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
um If you know any of the players ah in the squad, Marcus, would you know any of them?
00:08:27
Marcus Ramtohul
He's going hodling that squad.
00:08:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Glenn Hoddle was not in that squad. There are a couple.
00:08:30
Marcus Ramtohul
Aussie Rdlis.
00:08:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ozzy Ardiles was also not in that squad.
00:08:34
Marcus Ramtohul
Wow. Wow.
00:08:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'll tell you who was in it. um Chris Hewton was playing at left back in that game.
00:08:38
Marcus Ramtohul
was
00:08:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Steve Archibald was up front. Steve Perryman was captain. And on the bench, Garth crooks and right
00:08:44
Marcus Ramtohul
going to say golf crooks.
00:08:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
garth Crooks and the legend, the late Ray Clements as well was on the bench, which obviously as ah as Liverpool fans, we absolutely adored that man. ah But we're going to go into a short break now. We'll talk more about the match in depth.
00:09:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
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Analyzing Manchester United's Performance
00:09:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
OK, let's start with the first half as we throw over with an open question to the Manchester United fans ah here. Credit to you two for turning up. I know, Michal, you're absolutely gutted. You've got the stare of a prime Roberto Baggio after he missed his penalty in ninety four um I'll throw to you first. The first half was just sort of strange. The first 20 minutes looked really tight.
00:10:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
um We had a little bit of a ah review from Marcus there, but I'd like to come to you more in detail. ah How do you think the teams played in the first half?
00:10:18
Michał Czarniecki
Here I'm going to have... I'm dev i'm sure i already know that we're going to have some disagreement with Victor here because I actually like Manchester United style of play. ah Throughout the entirety of the first half, Victor will disagree with me. I know that already.
00:10:32
Michał Czarniecki
ah But there are some things...
00:10:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Feel free to interrupt each other.
00:10:35
Michał Czarniecki
ah Okay, we'll try to keep it civil. ah So basically, you guys already said it.
00:10:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
okay
00:10:41
Michał Czarniecki
Harry Maguire, ah Bruno Fernandes, those guys were basically the the heart of Manchester United. ah We were given the ball by by Spurs, so that was obviously their tactic going into the game.
00:10:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:10:54
Michał Czarniecki
let let's let ah Let's let the Red Devils like have fun with the ball, and maybe then we'll get them on some quick counter. And besides, that's sort of what happened. ah But overall, Fernandez, if it wasn't for him, ah this game would be even like more boring, I guess.
00:11:11
Michał Czarniecki
If somebody weren't entertained by this game already, like take Bruno Fernandez out of this equation and it would be even more boring, I can guarantee it. I really like Mizrahi. He was fighting like alongside Amadiello.
00:11:26
Michał Czarniecki
ah They were fighting for almost every single inch of the pitch out there. ah Mason Mount, I do not really understand why he was given such a low ah mark for this game.
00:11:38
Michał Czarniecki
ah Only 6.7. Yes, he might have given slightly more ah to the team, but other than that, he was doing the exact thing that we expect out of every single play on that pitch of the final of the European Cup.
00:11:52
Michał Czarniecki
Fight. just Just put up a fight. If you see that there are two, three guys up against you, chances are you're going to lose but little's possession, but at least try to make something out of it.
00:12:03
Michał Czarniecki
I guess the way how we conceded the goal was super accidental, It was sloppy defending. It was just like one lapse of concentration. And that was enough for for Johnson to punish us for it.
00:12:20
Michał Czarniecki
And the second half, basically, Ange Postacoglu, again, master in tactics. He decided to park the bus.
00:12:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hold on, I'll stop you there for the second half because I'd just like to concentrate on the first half of this moment and more specifically that goal.
00:12:31
Michał Czarniecki
Oh, sorry. Fine, fine.
00:12:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
you do I know you glossed over the goal a little bit. I'd like to get a bit more ah from you, Victor. I mean, it was a weird one. I actually thought it was an own goal from Luke Shaw.
00:12:39
Viktor
Yeah, it is.
00:12:41
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah.
00:12:41
Viktor
It is a long goal. So I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying we lacked that quality in the final third and we had possession. We started a well and I thought, OK, we might go into the second half with a one el lead.
00:12:54
Viktor
And what happened was the opposite. and I rewatched the goal 10 times. We're standing. There's no aggression. Masraoui and obviously Maguire were solid. But for that goal, if you analyze him, they're just walking, especially Masraoui letting that cross to come in that easily.
00:13:09
Viktor
And then that's a tricky ball that as a center back, Harry should have attacked that ball and not let it go past him. And and that that was a big mistake. And in a final like this, that's all you need to lose the final. So, yeah, it just it comes down to the quality that we don't have up front.
00:13:21
Michał Czarniecki
but
00:13:24
Michał Czarniecki
Wait a minute.
00:13:24
Viktor
That's we didn't create.
00:13:25
Michał Czarniecki
I'm sorry, sorry Victor. Sorry. Wait a minute. What were they supposed to do there? They were just doing the job.
00:13:29
Viktor
You have to attack the ball. and no no, no. You have to attack the ball.
00:13:31
Michał Czarniecki
They were doing the job. They were marking.
00:13:33
Viktor
as a said No, they didn't. Harry Maguire has to cut in in front of the other guy. i don't i remember I don't know who was there. But you have to cut in there and be a little bit more aggressive, not let the ball go.
00:13:43
Viktor
That literally went in front of him like that. You have Harry Maguire and you have the goalie. You have to be that first player that's going to cut in and and try to cut that ball in. And he let it bounce that in front of the goalie.
00:13:55
Viktor
So that was the own goal.
00:13:55
Marcus Ramtohul
so So to be clear, from a Manchester United point of view or from Victor, your point of view, that goal wasn't so much great movement from Johnson and a good ball and a good finish and attack. It was poor defending from Man United.
00:14:05
Viktor
Yeah, it was very poor defending. yeah
00:14:09
Marcus Ramtohul
See, I've got to disagree.
00:14:10
Viktor
if
00:14:10
Marcus Ramtohul
that I thought it was a fantastic piece of movement, nice ball in, really difficult...
00:14:11
Michał Czarniecki
but right
00:14:11
Viktor
you have Yeah, but how easy was the cross? But how easy was the cross is what I'm saying. The cross was perfect because he was let to be alone like that and cross it just that easily.
00:14:21
Viktor
Watch Mazraoui how slow he goes to the cross. they let ah They let the guy cross the ball like like there's not there's no urgency in there.
00:14:29
Marcus Ramtohul
I think it's such a difficult ball. to If you get that in, you know um fair play, you know you shouldn't have been able to get it in. But the placement of that ball, that danger zone, is so difficult to judge. Do you go for it?
00:14:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:14:38
Marcus Ramtohul
Do you not go for it? And that's why, you know, having watched that first half, you could say this is the story of Manchester United losing a final.
00:14:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:47
Marcus Ramtohul
and But props to Spurs. I feel like Spurs won a final. They turned up.
00:14:51
Viktor
Yeah, 100%.
00:14:51
Marcus Ramtohul
They took chances.
00:14:52
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah.
00:14:52
Viktor
hanna bazant
00:14:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I'd say they just part the bus for the entire second half.
00:14:53
Viktor
100%.
00:14:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll get more into that later, but i just think...
00:14:56
Viktor
Right, but they're super well organized. Something that we should have been crossing those balls.
00:14:59
Marcus Ramtohul
Mm-hmm.
00:14:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
They...
00:15:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
it was It was just anywhere will do.
00:15:03
Viktor
Defending those crosses.
00:15:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
it was And plus, their their actual interplay into midfield when they were trying to get out of defence, when they were being pinned back, I thought was very risky.
00:15:06
Viktor
Yeah.
00:15:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
And, you know, there were a couple of moments of genius in there, fine. But overall, I thought they were just giving the ball up way too easily. If you look at the actual ah possession stats, Manchester United had 73% possession over the 90 minutes.
00:15:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And that is just... I think that's... a real showing of how poor Spurs were at keeping the ball. You know, that's, they barely touched it for the last 15 minutes.
00:15:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I know that that's what they were set up to do, but I barely saw them with the ball at all throughout the entire game.
00:15:43
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah.
00:15:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
They were playing on the counter-attack.
00:15:46
Michał Czarniecki
But that was the plan.
00:15:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that, I guess, but, you know, Spurs never usually play like that.
00:15:47
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah.
00:15:49
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah.
00:15:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you if you remember in the first half, if you know, if you remember in the first half, they were trying to play it out of the back and they just kept on giving it away.
00:15:52
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah.
00:15:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
The midfield weren't coming back to help out. I know it was a relatively changed midfield ah because they didn't have their usual midfielders um
Debating Tottenham's Victory: Fluke or Masterclass?
00:16:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
available. You know, Kuleshevsky. and Madison and Lucas Bergvau maybe that's more credit to the players that did step in you know Yves Bissouma I thought had a pretty good game um but I still think that their win almost felt like a flu that's why I disagree with you Marcus it felt like they it was
00:16:10
Marcus Ramtohul
yeah
00:16:16
Marcus Ramtohul
Yep.
00:16:23
Marcus Ramtohul
Wow. oh
00:16:25
Viktor
That's your natural response when you're winning a final at 1-0. You're going pull back pretty much the last 15-20 minutes and that's when we really pushed.
00:16:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
it it's smash and grab that's all it was is you know it
00:16:36
Marcus Ramtohul
See, I think it was well thought out just because Spurs haven't really played like that all season. It felt very deliberate how they set up and how they approached the game. And they got the results for it.
00:16:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
It felt pretty cagey.
00:16:45
Marcus Ramtohul
Because as you rightly said, that Man United midfield, I thought, you know, they looked really good. Ahmed looked really good. Casemiro looked really good. Fernandes, I do feel very sorry for him. i've He's had a bit a lot of criticism this season.
00:17:00
Marcus Ramtohul
And... um you know some of his behaviour when it comes to things not going his way has been a bit questionable but I watched today and I thought you know what he's got every right to be frustrated that the players he's doing so much he's creating so much there's just another level to the players around him and I did feel really sorry for him for the end of that but um Talking about lacking bite in the in the final third, um Hoyland was finally hooked in the 71st, no, talking about second half in a minute, 71st minute.
00:17:35
Marcus Ramtohul
um We'll have to talk about that.
00:17:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, let's talk about it now.
00:17:38
Viktor
Yeah.
00:17:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's go into the second half. I'll let you i'll let you land, Marcus. How about that?........................
00:17:43
Marcus Ramtohul
ah yeah just I'm curious um how the Man United fans are feeling about their attacking options, their attacking threat. um I never like to see players you know not doing well. and and I know that they're professionals and they're trying their very best. ah just i didn't see i didn't see any belief in anyone that having him up front was going to do anything.
00:18:06
Michał Czarniecki
Marcus, ah let me give you one suggestion of how Manchester United fans might call Rasmus Hojland at this game. Traffic cone.
00:18:15
Viktor
Yeah.
00:18:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
but Well, I mean...
00:18:18
Michał Czarniecki
i thought that That's the phrase that you're looking for, Marcus. Traffic cone.
00:18:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, to be honest, Michal, I know we can talk all about Hoyland, but i'd i there's a player I'd like to come to you with. And this is someone that I thought you were being a little bit harsh on is Patrick Dorgue, because, I mean, he did get subbed off towards the end.
00:18:30
Michał Czarniecki
Yes.
00:18:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
20 years old, by the way. I don't think people realise that. He is a very young player and he's playing in a major European final. I thought that he coped pretty well for the majority of that match, but you didn't see it the same way, did you?
00:18:49
Michał Czarniecki
ah No, because at some situations, Patrick Dorku, he was just like for his young age, as someone would would probably assume. ah His behaviors were a little bit too erratic.
00:19:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:03
Michał Czarniecki
He was behaving little bit too nervous with the ball. And that ended up in some really like technical errors and some mistakes which could have been avoided. um But then again, yes, perhaps I am little too harsh on him.
00:19:16
Michał Czarniecki
ah but purely based on the fact that he's young and he's still got some ways to go.
00:19:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:19:20
Michał Czarniecki
ah But with that being said, in such European final, you know, like your opponent will always look for this ah weak link and for for this weak spot that they can attack. And unfortunately for Man United, Tottenham, I think that for some for some parts of the game, they were actually targeting Patrick Dorgue. They wanted to let him to get the ball so that he makes a mistake so that they get it back.
00:19:44
Michał Czarniecki
and throw a counterattack.
00:19:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
But isn't that where isn't that where Luke Shaw could have been covering him a bit more as well?
00:19:46
Michał Czarniecki
That's how I felt.
00:19:52
Michał Czarniecki
ah Oh my goodness. Well, ah we are we back to how we conceded the goal?
00:19:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
no what what did What did you make of Luke Shaw's performance over the 90 minutes, actually?
00:19:57
Michał Czarniecki
or
00:20:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'd like to hear that from you.
00:20:02
Michał Czarniecki
Out of our three centerbacks, the weakest guy in our defense.
00:20:06
Marcus Ramtohul
Wow.
00:20:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Victor?
00:20:08
Marcus Ramtohul
I,
00:20:10
Viktor
ah I mean, if you look at just the on goal that he scored, he also could have reacted a little bit better. But yeah, I mean, I didn't see Yoro for a long time and then he got into the game and he was very active in the second half.
00:20:18
Michał Czarniecki
Oh wow.
00:20:23
Viktor
But again, back to Dorgu. Again, that's a 20 year old kid that you just put into the fire. He was playing for Lecce. And literally, Lecce, I don't remember when was the last time Lecce played anywhere in Europe.
00:20:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
laughter laughter laughter
00:20:36
Viktor
And then he goes from Lecce right into Man United and he plays in the and the final.
00:20:38
Michał Czarniecki
wow
00:20:41
Viktor
I mean, I think he had a decent performance.
00:20:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
a
00:20:43
Viktor
He wasn't as bad as I thought he might be because it's a final. so But Luke Shaw, yeah, Louis, I agree with you. He should have been closer to him a little bit to support him.
00:20:54
Michał Czarniecki
Hmm.
00:20:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he was a bit isolated on the left-hand side, and that's where spurs is two of Spurs' best players on the right were on the right-hand side.
00:20:54
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah.
00:20:55
Viktor
Yeah. Yeah. That's the word. Isolate it.
00:21:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Brennan Johnson, and someone I'd love to highlight, Marcus, Pedro Porro. What a performance from Pedro Porro.
00:21:09
Marcus Ramtohul
Wow.
00:21:10
Michał Czarniecki
yeah
00:21:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was absolutely solid and he offered loads going forward.
00:21:13
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah.
00:21:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, that is one of the best ah performances I've ever seen from a right back in a major final. I mean, obviously you might have the same opinion.
00:21:25
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah, Jill, have to agree with that. but ah Again, there's a tiny part of me that wants to know where these players have been because...
00:21:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely.
00:21:35
Marcus Ramtohul
You know, we talk about Poro, you know, doing what he was doing right-hand side, that defence in general, fighting for their lives. That's what you want to see your team do. Van der Ven's clearance from off the line.
00:21:48
Marcus Ramtohul
Where's that Spurs been?
00:21:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:21:49
Marcus Ramtohul
Where have those players been?
00:21:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, he's been injured the entire season.
00:21:50
Marcus Ramtohul
ah
00:21:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's where he's been.
00:21:52
Marcus Ramtohul
Well, fair.
00:21:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:21:54
Michał Czarniecki
Right.
00:21:55
Marcus Ramtohul
and I particularly enjoyed the ongoing tussle between Maguire and Romero.
00:22:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh that was... that That's really sparked up right at the end.
00:22:04
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:04
Michał Czarniecki
right
00:22:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Romero... I don't know how Romero escaped without a yellow card in that match, by the way.
00:22:08
Marcus Ramtohul
Oh gosh, and Argentinian. Yeah, they they know what they're doing.
00:22:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I suppose...
00:22:12
Michał Czarniecki
Well, plus they were but last they were throwing a lot of rubbish down Maguire's throat, really, because like from from a slow motion, you could actually read the lips of Romero saying, like, you're a...
00:22:23
Michał Czarniecki
Okay, I'm not going to use that word.
00:22:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah,
00:22:25
Michał Czarniecki
I'm going to replace it with rubbish player. You're a rubbish player. Rubbish player, shut up. Yeah.
00:22:32
Viktor
Hey, my teammates here at the club, they sent like a link from that clearance van de van and they're asking me to do that clearance the next game.
00:22:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right.
00:22:39
Viktor
was like, come on, I'm 40 years old. I'm not going to do that.
00:22:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:22:41
Marcus Ramtohul
hi
00:22:42
Viktor
I'm not trying that.
00:22:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, but you don't look at Victor.
00:22:44
Viktor
I'm not trying that.
Manchester United's Long Road to Recovery
00:22:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
i think Mikhail's aged about 40 years during the watch of this final as well. Um...
00:22:52
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah.
00:22:53
Marcus Ramtohul
It might be another 40 years to Man United win something.
00:22:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, that would be good, wouldn't it? Especially... Well, let's not go too far into it because I don't want to...
00:22:57
Viktor
Oh, no.
00:23:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
want I want to actually have a podcast that I can upload. um ah Another highlight I'd like to mention ah from Spurs. I mean, we know that they were pinned back for the entire game, but...
00:23:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
But Heung-min Son, when he came on, offered absolutely nothing. Where has this Heung-min Son gone? I know he had his hands on the trophy at the end and, you know, getting all the plaudits. But that was... It's it's been an awful season, I think, for Heung-min Son and Spurs in general. But...
00:23:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Michael, he's just a shadow of his former self, isn't he? ah we We speak about him being the captain and one of the great, probably the greatest Asian player ever.
00:23:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
What happened?
00:23:44
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah, what happened? Well, basically, number one, age is getting to him. That is the most important factor. ah But also, i wouldn't knock on too much not too much on Hyunmin Son on the back of like last night's performance.
00:23:59
Michał Czarniecki
Because... We have to go back to what Angeposte Koglu's plan was for the game. Do not open too much. Let Manchester United have the ball. Let them suffer. Let them throw as many crosses and as many shots as they can.
00:24:15
Michał Czarniecki
And they're not even going to get one because they lack finishing in the final third, as Victor said. So, Heumannson's task for the final was completely different for those last...
00:24:26
Michał Czarniecki
ah Because, like, let's keep that in mind. He was introduced in the 67th minute, and the only reason he was introduced was because of Richarlison's injury, too, which...
00:24:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
But what about Matthijs Tell?
00:24:38
Michał Czarniecki
ah Matthias Tell. Yeah, but but but then again, like we have to go back to the you know ah original plan.
00:24:40
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah. Yep.
00:24:45
Marcus Ramtohul
ye
00:24:45
Michał Czarniecki
Son's job was to reinforce the midfield so that Man United has and even and the biggest nightmare possible to somehow try to get that equalizer.
00:24:56
Michał Czarniecki
So I would knock too much on Son. I think that he like he wasn't supposed to be the star last night.
00:25:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Fine.
00:25:03
Michał Czarniecki
but i'll tell that But I can tell you who is the star from from from Tottenham Hotspur.
00:25:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I
00:25:08
Michał Czarniecki
And that is now Mr.
00:25:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
know who you mean.
00:25:10
Michał Czarniecki
Kevin Danso. He is the star for Tottenham Hotspur for the second half, in my opinion.
00:25:12
Marcus Ramtohul
oh
00:25:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
What?
00:25:16
Marcus Ramtohul
Wow, yeah. he He came on and i always get a bit worried when a team...
00:25:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
12 minutes he played.
00:25:22
Marcus Ramtohul
A team that is winning um needs to defend a lead and they bring on a fresh defender and change things up because, OK, Man United were throwing everything at Spurs, but Spurs were coping.
00:25:34
Marcus Ramtohul
And I did think, oh, you're you're about to throw him into yeah the fire pit and he's not ready for it. um And very much proved wrong. ah Fantastic headed clearance in between the two United attackers. can't remember who he was.
00:25:49
Marcus Ramtohul
defending against, but looked really solid and looked hungry.
00:25:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
hmm
00:25:53
Marcus Ramtohul
Again, you've got players all of a sudden looked like they were, yeah, we're going to win this. We're going to see this over the line. And you could kind of feel that tension in the stadium through your television. You could look at Man United fans in the 70th minute and they knew there's no goal coming. There's no way.
00:26:09
Marcus Ramtohul
And you could just see, I was waiting for that moment where the Spurs thing was going to happen and it never happened.
00:26:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah well you you were having some
00:26:18
Viktor
I remember looking at the TV's 87 minutes. I was like, there's no way we're going to lose this. And then I'm thinking, okay, yeah, we we don't have the players to score.
00:26:25
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:26:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah i'd I'd like to ask you ah something else, Victor, actually, um about a substitution from a Manchester United perspective.
00:26:30
Viktor
That's the bottom line.
00:26:33
Viktor
Yeah.
00:26:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
And this is someone who came on and really looked like he could change the game. a certain Alejandro Garnaccio.
00:26:43
Viktor
Yeah.
00:26:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Do you think he was brought on too late?
00:26:47
Viktor
ah Yes, I would have brought him in at halftime. I honestly thought it's going to be that he's going to start as a false nine. I did not expect Hoyland to start. I thought Amorim is going to have a joker in his up his sleeve and it's going to be Garnaccio that's going to start as a false nine. Even Kobe Maino, to be honest, you just not Hoyland.
00:27:06
Viktor
that's That's my view on this.
00:27:07
Michał Czarniecki
victor to Victor to ventriloquist, ladies and gentlemen. I think that's the word.
00:27:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, it was nice to see Joshua Zerkze come on towards the end because this is someone who worked so hard to get back.
00:27:13
Viktor
Yeah.
00:27:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was not meant to play for the rest of the season.
00:27:20
Marcus Ramtohul
Mmm.
00:27:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And he came on off the bench, didn't offer too much in terms of what he brought into the game. Did it just feel sentimental maybe and you know not something that was ever going to change the game?
00:27:41
Marcus Ramtohul
you know I think that it highlighted an overall feeling. We talked about this a few weeks ago on this podcast that this Manchester United team, this Manchester United squad,
00:27:55
Marcus Ramtohul
In any other moment in history, you would not put those players, those threats them in Manchester United shirts. It's not a Manchester United squad. It's in serious need of a rebuild. They're great players, but I don't think they're of the quality of the players Man United have had in the past.
00:28:10
Marcus Ramtohul
So... um It just shows the lack of options they've got. you know If you look at that 11 that started, how many of them do you even expect really to still be there next season? That's quite quite something to say of a team that's reached a cup final.
00:28:27
Marcus Ramtohul
I'm curious from the Manchester United fans' point of view because, as Mikhail pointed out, you know's there's not really money to spend. How do you
Financial Challenges and Squad Rebuild
00:28:36
Marcus Ramtohul
rebuild? Do you trust this squad? At the end of the day, they've reached the final.
00:28:40
Marcus Ramtohul
They will learn from this. They'll grow. Or do you go, well, actually, this team is not good enough to kick on?
00:28:46
Viktor
They're not good enough.
00:28:46
Michał Czarniecki
This team is not good enough.
00:28:47
Viktor
That's the bottom line.
00:28:47
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah, absolutely.
00:28:48
Viktor
Yeah.
00:28:49
Michał Czarniecki
They're not good enough. And to be honest, the victory for you the Europa League final victory for Man United, I actually read an article somewhere that even if we got this hundred million pound bonus, uh, for the victory, like it would still be thrown into the well, uh, like dick duck from, from, from the debts, uh, as we say it here,
00:29:11
Michał Czarniecki
um But still, like even without £100 million pounds being given like that we would be able to throw into that hole in our budget, it's going to be even worse because going to have to sell players.
00:29:15
Marcus Ramtohul
Hmm.
00:29:22
Michał Czarniecki
And I'm afraid that the Man United board will be forced to take decisions in terms of letting go of the players that will be drastic.
00:29:34
Michał Czarniecki
I am afraid to be honest right now, the, the, like with billions of pounds that of debt that we've got and that we're in, I'm afraid for copy mainers tenure. I am afraid for Garnacha's tenure.
00:29:46
Michał Czarniecki
I am afraid that Bruno Fernandes, like he might be too expensive to be kept at the club. Uh, even though he's a fantastic player and he just doesn't have any friends to play with, unfortunately.
00:29:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:29:59
Michał Czarniecki
So.
00:29:59
Viktor
I don't think it's going to come down to that. I think if you find a way to offload Anthony, Sancho, and Rashford, and and they had decent seasons in the clubs where they were loaned out, if that happens and they sign with them permanently, I think we're going to be fine because that's a lot of money that they they keep.
00:30:13
Michał Czarniecki
No. Financial fair play, Victor. Financial fair play. Even...
00:30:17
Viktor
You have to offload those players that make that much money. And now it's pretty clear that you have to get rid of Casemiro as well.
00:30:24
Michał Czarniecki
But that's not gonna fix the problem.
00:30:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that bicycle kick at the end.
00:30:26
Viktor
It's not going to fix the problem 100%, but it will give you new players to bring in.
00:30:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's talk about that. but
00:30:32
Michał Czarniecki
But we have no money to bring them for!
00:30:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that...
00:30:32
Viktor
And these are... We're going to have money if you offload those players.
00:30:34
Michał Czarniecki
That's the fucking...
00:30:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Whoa, Michał.
00:30:36
Michał Czarniecki
Sorry.
00:30:38
Michał Czarniecki
Sorry. I'm sorry.
00:30:39
Viktor
You're going to have the money to bring those new players in if you offload those, if you get rid of Hoylund, if you get rid of Onana, if you get rid of Dalo, Zergse.
00:30:44
Michał Czarniecki
Ah.
00:30:48
Viktor
The main thing is how much money these these guys that Ten Hag brought in, they're making $150,000, $200,000 a issue. thousand a week thats that's the that's the issue
00:30:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well...
00:30:58
Marcus Ramtohul
I think the other thing is, for Manchester United, it's not going to be quick. I think you're going to have to strap in for a long run back to the top ah but you know to kind of consolidate the finances, build that squad and the issue as well of...
00:31:15
Marcus Ramtohul
Can you attract players of the quality you need to a club that isn't in the Champions League, that didn't win the Europa League, that is you know in the bottom half of the table?
00:31:25
Marcus Ramtohul
and it's going to be some It's going to be some serious work. Who's going to want to go to Manchester United? um
00:31:31
Michał Czarniecki
That's a good question.
00:31:33
Marcus Ramtohul
and
00:31:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. Matthias Cunha, apparently.
00:31:34
Marcus Ramtohul
Or do you just get on with who you've got and make the best of this squad as it is? Because it's a young squad. There's lots of potential you keep Kobe Mainu, where could he go?
00:31:44
Marcus Ramtohul
And you got all this...
00:31:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ahmad Diallo as well.
00:31:46
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah. But it's it's a long build.
00:31:48
Michał Czarniecki
Don't worry.
00:31:49
Viktor
I'll tell you right now, they're not going to go anywhere. The Alois for sure not going to go anywhere.
00:31:52
Michał Czarniecki
Hopefully.
00:31:54
Michał Czarniecki
Hopefully.
00:31:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
he doesn't sit He doesn't strike me as a type as well.
00:31:54
Viktor
they're They're not going to...
00:31:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I mean, it it depends, I suppose, again, Victor, as you mentioned, on what money you can get in the transfer window, because, you know, how much are you going to get for Marcus Rashford, for example?
00:32:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe quite a lot. You know, he can bring a lot, and he does strike me as a player who um who can could go for a lot of money.
00:32:12
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah.
00:32:12
Marcus Ramtohul
Thank you.
00:32:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
The problem is, is how much Manchester United players that are currently there are getting paid way way way too much money
00:32:27
Viktor
thatest That's the thing. That's what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about how much money you can sell Rashford for. You just need to get rid of him because how much money he makes a week.
00:32:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah yeah it it's an insane amount
00:32:36
Viktor
That's the issue.
00:32:39
Viktor
They make way too much money for the players that they are. Him, Anthony, Sancho. Those are the three players you have to get rid of to find find a way to offload them. If you can find a buyer again back to Italy for Hoylund and Xerxes, that would be amazing too.
00:32:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's...
00:32:56
Marcus Ramtohul
You know, it's it's so it wass interesting thinking about Tottenham have won this trophy now.
Tottenham's Business Model Vindicated
00:33:02
Marcus Ramtohul
They will play Champions League football. And for all the protests about Levy out, they've not spent big.
00:33:09
Marcus Ramtohul
They've not spent particularly high on wages. They've invested in their stadium. He and I see have had a business plan for how they want to run Tottenham Hotspur.
00:33:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:19
Marcus Ramtohul
um And now also, I talked about this on the pod before, if you go into the detail of what the Levy out protests are about, they're not saying get rid of Levy. They're saying, yeah, go back, back, back office and do that side of stuff. We like that you regenerate the stadium and you bring money in, but you should leave the football stuff alone.
00:33:38
Marcus Ramtohul
um But he's got me feeling a little bit justified right now. The business model's paying off.
00:33:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, but Marcus, I'll ask you this then. Would you say overall this season has been a success for Tottenham Hotspur?
00:33:53
Marcus Ramtohul
Yes.
00:33:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
he in Instantly, yes, not a moment of hesitation.
00:33:55
Viktor
It's a yes for me too. Same for me.
00:33:58
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah, same. yes
00:33:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh
00:33:59
Marcus Ramtohul
So it's it's an ongoing yeah but battle argument about this whole thing of like, should this should any team that's won the Europa League be given a Champions League place?
00:34:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
i suppose...
00:34:09
Marcus Ramtohul
The fact of the matter is that is the rule. and We don't expect that teams in the bottom half of their league are going to reach finals. um
00:34:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I don't disagree with that rule. which I'm just saying the way they've played this season. I mean, you can say what you want about they've won the league, but, you know, the football that they'll be playing in the Champions League, where can we see that? Because this whole system with Ange, I wouldn't say has been a success.
00:34:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, they had so a pretty easy run to the final as well. I mean, this has been quite an easy Europa League season. They're Bodo g glimpsed in the semifinal, for goodness sakes.
00:34:44
Marcus Ramtohul
Yeah.
00:34:44
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah.
00:34:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
but I know you can say what you want, that they want it, but they will struggle if they don't seriously reinvest.
00:34:45
Michał Czarniecki
Sure.
00:34:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
They've got a trophy. Fantastic. Good for them. But they will they cannot play like this again next season with a congested fixture list of not being able to rotate their players in Europa League nights, trips to Azerbaijan or whatever.
00:35:05
Marcus Ramtohul
yeah
00:35:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
i' I just think that this won't be enough for challenging for You know, ah finishing higher in the Premier League, ah going on a cup run and getting anything out of the Champions League at all.
00:35:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
i don't I can't see ah world in which in the next two years they'll be back to where they were in 2019 in a Champions League final with a fantastic squad.
00:35:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
They're going to have to move on Jungmin Son sooner rather than later.
00:35:38
Marcus Ramtohul
Do you know what?
00:35:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's not going to be sustainable.
00:35:39
Marcus Ramtohul
i
00:35:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go on, sorry.
00:35:41
Marcus Ramtohul
I disagree. ah think it could be the start of something pretty special for them because they've they've got the prize packet from this.
00:35:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:35:49
Marcus Ramtohul
They can now say, unlike other teams in the league, you know what? We're playing Champions League football next year. They can attract players. They seem to be making an awful lot of money from that stadium with all the concerts and things that they do there.
00:35:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
I suppose, yeah.
00:36:00
Marcus Ramtohul
um If they're smart with their investment, the the issue has always been to attract the big players, you need to be winning trophies. Well, they've won a trophy. um there's There's going to be a huge debate in North London today about who's had the most successful season.
00:36:14
Marcus Ramtohul
As far as I can tell, both teams, Arsenal and Tottenham, have qualified for the Champions League, but one of them's got silverware. In my mind, Spurs have had a better season. I know Arsenal have challenged and played some great football, but...
00:36:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Crazy to say that, isn't it?
00:36:27
Marcus Ramtohul
umve I've got, know, they've won silverware. At the end of the day, in 20 years' time, your children aren't going to say, oh, you remember that season where Arsenal played some great football and finished second?
00:36:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah
00:36:39
Viktor
Yeah.
00:36:39
Marcus Ramtohul
They're not.
00:36:40
Michał Czarniecki
okay
00:36:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
You make a good point there.
00:36:41
Michał Czarniecki
nobody remembers
00:36:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
You do make a very good point.
00:36:42
Michał Czarniecki
yeah nobody but Nobody remembers second place. Yeah, that is a well-known rule. Absolutely.
00:36:49
Marcus Ramtohul
But it is is ah it's an interesting point for Spurs now because that that model seems to have got them to where they are and right now. Will it get them over the line for the next phase?
00:36:59
Marcus Ramtohul
But they're in a good place. They've got silverware. They've got Champions League. They've got money in the bank. They could start moving up.
00:37:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
it It just depends on their transfers, doesn't it? i This Spurs team is nowhere near as good as that 2019 one.
00:37:13
Marcus Ramtohul
No.
00:37:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're right, they won a trophy.
00:37:14
Viktor
Yeah.
00:37:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
but I just... ah
00:37:17
Michał Czarniecki
Okay, but Louis, let's...
00:37:17
Viktor
I think there's a little bit of a misconception here with the Champions League. I got to say this, that if you make it to the Champions League, certain players will come to you. if If I offer $150,000 and I'm not in the Champions League and the Champions League team offers you $100K, would you go take the $150,000 or are you going to take $100,000?
00:37:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
150 all day.
00:37:36
Viktor
And that's what I'm saying.
00:37:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:37:38
Viktor
United, they're bigger clubs. They're not in the Champions League, but they can have the payroll if you clear up garbage players like the one that I mentioned, Anthony Sancho-Rashford.
00:37:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah But also, do you know what the prize money is for winning winning the Europa League final? someone draw Someone take a guess.
00:37:52
Viktor
What is it?
00:37:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Guesses right now. nearest to to the nearest million.
00:37:57
Marcus Ramtohul
I heard that in general with the everything all added together, it was something ridiculous, like a hundred million. I don't know where that figure is brought in, but I think the actual figure is something like seven.
00:38:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Any other guesses, boys? Victor?
00:38:10
Viktor
no
00:38:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, great. Thanks for that. Michal?
00:38:15
Viktor
No. want to hear the difference between the first and the second. How much did Man United make from this and how much
00:38:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
like Okay, Michal, go.
00:38:22
Michał Czarniecki
Okay, to to to be honest, I've heard of i heard of that number 100 million a lot.
00:38:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. million.
00:38:27
Michał Czarniecki
Apparently it's wrong, so let's hear it.
00:38:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Five million.
00:38:33
Michał Czarniecki
5 million, there you go.
00:38:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Five million.
00:38:34
Marcus Ramtohul
Or is it 5.6? I seem to remember reading 5.6.
00:38:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, I just saw on, ah I can't say the name of the newspaper, but a reliable newspaper source that it was 5 million. and So, um you know, that big cash flow to spend on the big players, 5 million, great.
00:38:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
I suppose the plus side is being able to ah pay more with financial fair play. um And that is something that a lot of teams have been bragging about that have made it to the Champions League.
00:39:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I suppose, where will it go?
00:39:05
Michał Czarniecki
Thank you.
00:39:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
They're not going to get a load of money for being in the Champions League. The money comes within their own investment. um So let's just see how how bold Daniel Levy will be with that money.
00:39:20
Marcus Ramtohul
I don't think he'll be particularly bold.
00:39:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:39:20
Viktor
Wait, wait, one second for everyone listening, just to confirm this. It's $5 million just from the final. What is the total package compared when you take the Champions League and everything else?
00:39:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
right I don't know that, but I said...
00:39:31
Viktor
that should be That should be a lot of money. It cannot be like $5 or $10. That's probably the $100 million that you're talking about or everyone knows about.
00:39:37
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah, that was the 100 million, which was then reported to be thrown into like this pit with with debt. Because like if United had won, then this 100 million would just go to to go for the for the servicing of the debts.
00:39:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
But five million is nothing to these guys.
00:39:52
Michał Czarniecki
For Man United.
00:39:54
Viktor
Yeah.
00:39:55
Michał Czarniecki
Is it?
00:39:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely. No, it it is It's nothing to these guys. They spent 75 million on Anthony.
00:40:03
Michał Czarniecki
Perhaps. You know what? so if
00:40:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
80 million on Maguire.
00:40:06
Michał Czarniecki
So if that's not a problem, then how come we already started to... There are already rumors spreading about financial fair play violations by Manchester United. We could end up in the we could end up at the same ditch as Manchester City.
00:40:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:40:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
But that's that comes with your that comes with your budget a for being in the Champions League, if that's what you're talking about.
00:40:25
Michał Czarniecki
Hmm...
00:40:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
But you can still sell players. no no No one's stopping you doing that.
00:40:29
Michał Czarniecki
Hmm...
00:40:29
Viktor
And yet nothing happened to Citi, so don't worry, we'll survive.
00:40:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, we'll see.
00:40:32
Michał Czarniecki
Well, yet.
00:40:33
Marcus Ramtohul
yeah
00:40:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, that's...
00:40:33
Michał Czarniecki
yet yet the the verdict The verdict is not it's not in yet.
00:40:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, good and well, let's...
00:40:37
Marcus Ramtohul
well that's that's an interesting one i think that one's dragged on because there are so many charges for them to these was 115 and that's why it's taken so long to get to the end of that but i mean that's an entirely different discussion
00:40:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
never going to happen.
00:40:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just want a live update of what's going on rather than hearing, oh, the court is continuing.
00:40:50
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
like yeah Just tell us what's happening.
00:40:57
Michał Czarniecki
Let's get on with it.
00:40:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't want to find out in 10 years by the time all of these players are grey.
00:41:01
Michał Czarniecki
You know what, guys?
00:41:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:41:02
Viktor
You know how this is going to end? Only Everton is going to get deducted 10 points.
00:41:06
Marcus Ramtohul
Yes.
00:41:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly.
00:41:06
Viktor
City will be
00:41:08
Michał Czarniecki
Yeah, yeah, they're going to find a scapegoat. You know what, guys? I think if we continue with those conversations about the future of the club and where Man United goes, then I might drop it another accidental F-bomb.
00:41:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I was thinking that. We'll end it.
00:41:20
Michał Czarniecki
And I don't want to do that anymore.
00:41:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that didn't happen. Don't worry. We'll end it on the beautiful note of Everton getting punished.
00:41:23
Michał Czarniecki
Oof.
00:41:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you very much for listening to the daily English Premier League podcast on GSPN. Of course, we've got two other major finals happening, one of them with a Premier League club. And of course, we have one more game week and a trophy lift for Liverpool. I'll be up in Anfield for that. I'll be up in Liverpool with the parade.
00:41:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that will be a lot ah contrasting to the current... ah moods of Michal and Victor. Thank you for getting on anyway, boys. I appreciate you being here and Marcus, grateful to have your company once again.
00:41:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
You've been listening to Daily English Premier League podcast. Take care. See you soon.