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Cuz Chat 59 - Australia Day
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Chur cuzdogs! We have a special episode for you today. Join Black Magee, Macho Man Randy Average and Jorge the Ruthless Deception as we share stories of moving to Australia, the people you helped us settle and what makes Aussie a great place to live.
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Australia Day Special
00:00:36
Speaker
Welcome back to the Custachap.
00:00:48
Speaker
for you, it's a little impromptu episode, being that it's Australia Day and also we just thought we'd put out something there for the public holiday to start your week on a Tuesday right and I'll gather together macho man Randy Average and a bit later on you'll hear from George Reuters Deception as well so sit back, relax and enjoy this special episode of Cuzz Chat Podcast Going through your head when you decided to put Weet-Bix on the toilette seat bowl.
00:01:21
Speaker
so ah I'm trying to wrap my head around this. trying to just slow for this Help me understand. That's my new thing, Bo, is rather than like, what the fuck you do that for? It's like, help me understand why you put Weet-Bix on the toilette seat.
00:01:37
Speaker
So it that's my new thing. Because I yeah i just get up frustrated and angry and... Yeah, just trying not to. Oh, I've got a mikorapō form.
00:01:47
Speaker
Turn into a top-tier dating moment. Oh, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, cool, cool. Well, we'll get to that. I can forget
Moving to Australia: Initial Impressions
00:01:54
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about that. But yeah, the Australia Day special, I guess you coined, which is, yeah, I mean, not doing anything else today, so it's too hot to go outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just thought, was like, well, straight up it's content. Yeah.
00:02:07
Speaker
also But Australia is pretty fucking awesome. like people When I first got here, I just wanted to move home. just wanted to move home. But then I realised it was just because I was uncomfortable and it wasn't all oil I thought it was going to be because it all of a sudden went from a teenager to being an adult.
00:02:31
Speaker
and Yeah, you were a different you're a difference sort of teenager too before you came over here, Yeah, he was fucking red shirt wearing, didn't he? Are you here too for a little while when you came over, eh? For a hot minute? but it puts what and Because I came from Gizzy too.
00:02:46
Speaker
So Mango, you learn the ropes a little bit then I went to Gizzy and then... Get some masterclasses. Well, my first day at work, it was fucking walking and there's just four patches there and I'm oh, okay, they're like, you want a ride home, dog? And then they're just every morning from fucking...
00:03:01
Speaker
5.30am, it's just hang with the dogs. A bit of like an indoctrination type situation? no um hey I don't know what that word means. Oh, like you're low-key brainwashed?
00:03:13
Speaker
Oh, no, it's just like... I suppose when they're recruiting and shit like that, they use certain in tactics um you know to welcome you in and make it look like it's not as bad as it is.
00:03:27
Speaker
But no, it was just sort of inundated because... We had heaps of patches and everybody there was a representative. So i was like, well, that's just now it's how you talk or now it's what you do. Afterwards, after work, we'll go for a beer. And then everybody around you is a dog or a representative of all the families
The Move: Uncle Jimmy's Invitation
00:03:45
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or the kids. How old were then when you moved over?
00:03:48
Speaker
To Aussie. Yeah. Went to Gizzy when I was like 16, 17. And then I stayed there till i was like nearly 19. Yeah. And then Uncle Jimmy me just rang me one day and he goes, boy, you want to come to Aussie? And I fucking hated Gisborne. And I was like, yeah, bro.
00:04:03
Speaker
And he goes, cool. It was like Sunday night. And he goes, cool. We'll get you a ticket. and you can come over Wednesday. but just what just But did he know kind of what you were doing and going through? think he talked to my mum. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, I might have been like, yeah, there must have been about five days from when he told me till I moved over.
00:04:27
Speaker
Because I remember doing a bit of a lap, went through, when I left Gizzi, I went through National Park, caught up with Steve and Jace Blackmore and them, and then back to Mango and seen a couple of people, then was this other day, right? Yeah.
00:04:39
Speaker
And then was Sydney, eh? Sydney meeting? Yeah, put all um So I thought I was moving in with Nat and Jimmy, and then landed and got the stitch up, and then they told me,
00:04:52
Speaker
well, we're not actually, we don't actually have a house where we're staying with Nina and her house. And I was like, oh, okay. And she goes, yeah. And they just broke up. a lot Oh, right. And they're like, so you can stay with Nanny Pat.
00:05:06
Speaker
And I was like, yeah, cool. But like, I didn't see them since I was once saw was a ah baby, but I ah fucking loved them. And then, so I went there while, while they were going through all their shit. I think Nina was like staying in a hotel with a friend or some shit. And,
00:05:21
Speaker
Uncle Jimmy and Nat were staying with her ex. It was so weird. Oh, But, you know, there was lots of things changing
Cultural Adjustments and Climate Struggles
00:05:27
Speaker
there. Yeah. And then, yeah, just... Where were they at that time? Was it Cogro? No. Or around there? Oh, Auntie Pat was in Olawa.
00:05:34
Speaker
Yeah. And um Uncle Jimmy and Nat were out at Bible Park, like way the fuck out, Windsor. Not Bible Park, Windsor, Windsor. Bible Park's not that far.
00:05:47
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. yeah a windsor I remember just going out there sometimes, it was fucking hot, like grass didn't exist. It was fucking hot there. Dry, so fucking dry. Yeah. yeah That's that's think something I struggle with, eh, is just the the climate.
00:06:01
Speaker
It was just out of control. yeah no it it Yeah, but and just coming in and over, and that was a fucking mission, eh? It was like a no work, and you know you're trying to do what you can to make a dollar, but all you had was or washing cars or...
00:06:21
Speaker
you know, little agency jobs. Here you get... Labour hire stuff. Yeah. That's how I started. Six hours Wednesday and you might get some work next week. Yeah, yeah. You know, it was just Like waiting for that phone call, Or the text. The whole time I'm just like, fuck, should just get back to Gizzy, man. Yeah, yeah.
00:06:37
Speaker
But I knew if went back to Gizzy, I'll fucking end up in jail with some shit. Didn't you start your trade here as well, though? Yeah. No, don't mind at all. Well, big shout-out to the the people that helped you first to get here. fucking off, eh? Um...
00:06:50
Speaker
Everyone's got those people away they just that just were here. You come stay at our house or whatever, we'll get you you hooked up with a job. or Everyone's got those people. But I had Nat and Jimmy. um Then for my my trade, I had Nina, Aunty Jenny, Aunty Pat, Uncle Stan, and there was others along the way.
00:07:10
Speaker
you know was um Yeah, had heaps of help. out It was great. but For us, it was Cal and Alex, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, and I don't know if many people know this, we were going through a bit of a rough patch ourselves. Yep. Had two young kids. We were kind of young ourselves, didn't really know what the fuck we were doing. And um just ah just I think living is two young parents...
00:07:37
Speaker
working pretty much minimum wage jobs. um We stayed with mum and for a while. to Shout out to mum and dad for for having us while we got settled ourselves as a family. And then, yeah, we decided that, look, if we want to make a go of it, let's try and get out of our current situation, that we just just
Giving Australia a Chance
00:07:58
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go in the same circle. So...
00:08:00
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um Yeah, we had a break for a little bit and then we kind of realised that hey we need to make some changes if we want to continue. So was the best thing for us, I think, at the time. um And yeah, it was just, I think Kelly and Alex had been over here probably about a year, a year or so.
00:08:20
Speaker
Then, yeah, we decided to, hey, let's go over, let's um give ourselves six months. We'll say, let's give it six months and we'll see. You know, if we don't make it in six months, then we'll come back. We'll try it. didn't work.
00:08:36
Speaker
Oh, well. too But, yeah, within like... a month, we were like, yeah, this is us. But I did the same variable, labour hire, was some going around fucking digging holes yeah um on the end of a shovel for most of, for the start of it.
00:08:51
Speaker
And then think Eddie Quigley, he funded defunded a lot of people's journeys over here, you know. Oh, Labour Hire. Oh, for you. Like, because he was he was Uncle Jimmy's boss, Alex's boss. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. think Karen worked for him for a bit. Yeah, like yeah, yeah. Jonas and them, Uncle Ben and them. Oh, yeah. So Eddie Quigley, like, even though he's an absolute fucking cartoon character with his crooked head and his basic retardation. This fucking Irish kid is a funny guy. Yeah, he's an Irish dude, eh? worked for him for a little bit.
00:09:28
Speaker
And um bo I don't know what fuck I was doing. He's just like, got to trim those piles. And I'm like, what the fuck is that? And he put me with myself.
00:09:39
Speaker
It might have been my first day. And I was like, oh, okay. And then he goes, And you've got to cut around the bottom in a straight line with the with the concrete saw. And I'm like, fuck, the the fuck is a concrete saw? You know, it was just... that And there's one thing about the Aussies, they don't if you've got any tickets or licenses, bro. They're like, this is how you operate. This is that what you've got to do. Have at it.
00:09:59
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but I ended up and working for a ah a civil construction company. yeah And um just, oh, thought, yeah, we go on the end of a shovel again, which was was for the most part, like move this pile over here kind of thing.
00:10:14
Speaker
But then, yeah, they were like, but short-staffed or whatever, and they're like, oh, we just need someone to drive the roller up and down here just to... Platting all this out And they're like You'll be to handle that eh Yeah yeah yeah Sweet ass No fucking idea
Work Challenges and Adaptation
00:10:27
Speaker
How to First time operating a roller Or anything like that I think that's the way You get taught in NZ Is just Whatever your boss says Just say fucking yeah And go do this shit eh Yeah yeah And I was at that point Where I didn't say no to anything So you know Like you said You don't know if you're going be there For two days week If they need you back next week Until they ring you Or text you So Yeah Quick up story though I'm pretty sure I've told this story before though
00:10:52
Speaker
i was working on a roundabout in Woolleye Creek. Yep. and Big sort of civil construction thing there, and they redid the whole roundabout. And I got onto this crew, ah this this construction crew, and was... um There was only about four of us, like the boss man, his foreman, um me as a labourer, and then one other guy.
00:11:12
Speaker
And the other guy was, um I think was a Maldi follower. just used to turn up, shark his bro all day. You know, i didn't used to say a word until we got to work together on this roundabout. and We're having smoke And he was talking away and goes, oh, where you from? And he goes, oh, yeah.
00:11:29
Speaker
typeborn gnoi you know do you know any you ah any walls? And was like, oh, some, yeah, what I know? And goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. He I'm a wall. i was like, oh, fuck. yeah sure You know, you're a big wall. was a big wall, actually.
00:11:43
Speaker
um But then I was like, oh, yeah, I'm originally from Mankino. He's like, oh, Mankino? do you know any of the Hemmers? And was like, I am a Hemmer. And he goes, oh, do you know Sheena? Oh, yeah? Yeah, and he was partnered up with Sheena. Oh, true. And they lived in an apartment just overlooking Walleye Creek roundabout.
00:12:07
Speaker
So it is dear David Wall was the dude and yeah, he'd been here for a little while and doing the labouring stuff and then yeah, kind of kicked it off with him and the next day he, having smoker again, he goes, you smoke, bro?
00:12:21
Speaker
I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking, he's about to pull out a pipe and somebody takes in their fucking token away in the work truck. was like, oh my lord. But um allegedly, anyway. yeah Might have been just tobacco.
00:12:34
Speaker
ah But yeah, crazy. It was after smoking that tobacco, though. but It was was a pretty easy job, but since they took me on the roller and off I fucking... because they were doing the curbing everything, fucking hit the curbing a couple of times. Oh, I'm going to chip out of that one. Nope, don't be that. because this Yeah.
00:12:54
Speaker
So, yeah, like, it's funny that you, the people you meet when you move here as well, like, yeah so many Kiwis, so many. Yeah, man. But, um remember I was in fucking Christmas Creek on a mine site, and um I was, like, helping induct these people onto, um,
00:13:13
Speaker
Until workshopped for some reason. it wasn't That wasn't my job, but I don't know what why. They just asked me to get all their details and all this sort of shit for these subcontractors. and um And I was photocopying some licences, I think, and I was like, oh, Robert Pouwhare. I was like, I got some uncles that Pouwhare, so I went back and asked him.
00:13:32
Speaker
was you're a Pouwhare? He goes, yeah. And I was like, you know Toi? And he goes, yeah, Uncle Toi. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. And he goes, oh, how do you know him? And was like, no, he's my uncle. And he's like, oh, yeah.
00:13:43
Speaker
goes, where are from? And I was like, well, I'm living in Sydney. And he goes, oh, me too. Where do you live? And I was like, Cogger. And he's like, do you know George, honey? And I was like, yeah.
00:13:55
Speaker
I was like, yeah, that's my Uncle George. And he goes, oh, was drinking down there last week. horse by Who wasn't he wasn't drinking down to a honey just had his place? There was a dude that i had a beer with at the house, and then two weeks later, I met him a new one. yeah Because there's so many randoms that would just come back to the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:14:17
Speaker
But they were good very as well because I know they looked after Kelly and Alex yeah when they moved over. um so yeah, you get a, like, let's it's funny how you it takes you to moving away from NZ and to find a lot of people yeah that you actually probably should have known.
00:14:36
Speaker
Yeah.
Community and Connections
00:14:37
Speaker
and Or you do know, i guess. Making that more of a connection. Yeah, and you have that from greater sense of community or connectedness, I guess, and outside of New Zealand.
00:14:47
Speaker
Yeah. Because you're in a foreign country and you you don't know the locals kind of thing, so. People used to make a lot more effort too back in those days, eh, when we were all in Sydney. Like, used to have that munkin all day and Like Albie Wilson and them would come John Donnelly and all them and Kyle Mackey and them.
00:15:03
Speaker
I've met more people in Aussie than when I was living a my mon in Munkino. It was crazy. Yeah, but it definitely makes it easier when you've got some people here established.
00:15:15
Speaker
yeah Because, yeah, we wouldn't without Kelly and Alex, we wouldn't have moved over, for sure. Yeah, I met Alex over here too. It was good cause just to get on with somebody because I come over and I was living with my old ass uncle and auntie, you know?
00:15:26
Speaker
Yeah. Which I loved them, but then... I don't really have people my age that I could talk to and shit, you know, so was um it was good catching up with Alex and just like, oh, yeah, so um Kelly's dating an absolute child and it was right up my alley. Yeah, it was.
00:15:46
Speaker
Definitely. um But yeah, no, shout out to those that have, you know, gone out of their way and just to help help you get over here and and get settled and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, that's where it all started. You look around now and that that's those are the ones that they help you get there. You don't forget it.
00:16:04
Speaker
No, never, never. Yeah. But what are your kind of big things that you noticed since being here compared to... I've been thinking about this today and like his...
00:16:16
Speaker
I think when I first come here, you always talk about fuck Australia and all this sort of shit, but it' it's a ridiculous mindset. look If it was fuck Australia, what are you doing here? Don't get me wrong, and and this is something i wanted to bring up. Australia's definitely got its problems, particularly ah ah around a national day that celebrates yup Australia, but we won't get into that too much. but Yeah, I think you should touch that one at the end.
00:16:40
Speaker
The things that I like about coming here... That's probably, ah like, small stuff that is big to me, like, um how good are fucking pubs in Australia? Well, mainly in Queensland and Sydney, eh?
00:16:55
Speaker
How good are pubs? Like, you go home and, like, the Mango Pub, it was old school pub, but it's, you in. mean, that's a low bar. Yeah. You walk in,
00:17:07
Speaker
There's a table, there's some pokies, there's an ashtray, have a drink. That's it. Yeah, there's definitely not enough tables for everyone that goes there. People have to just kind of late yes you like, like 12 people to one.
00:17:18
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. You a kokoro, it's sort of the same, and the main the main focus is pokies and shit. yeah, But you come here, and it's like a family event, and there's fucking heaps of them, but it doesn't seem like it's alcohol-driven.
00:17:34
Speaker
thing, the pubs? No. It's an event thing? Yeah, definitely. And they're centred around sport, obviously, a lot of them. But they've got different sports, hey, like the AFL clubs, the rugby league clubs, rugby clubs.
00:17:47
Speaker
They've all got their own sort of vibe. And RSLs. RSLs, yeah, but yeah. cheap as Cheap as food and that. Yep. um What I like actually about RSLs is how they stick to their traditions pretty hard. i don't know what it's like back home, but Like 6 o'clock, it's a moment of silence every single night. Yeah, yeah. know? Yeah.
00:18:08
Speaker
And, um like, even Anzac Day. Yeah, yeah. Anzac Day is celebrated here hardcore. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Like, back home, it's a big thing, but over here, it's fucking huge, right? Yeah. I think back home, for me, it was like if you wanted to kind of celebrate Anzac Day, you'd get real early and go to the parades and stuff. But over here, it's like, nah, at midday today, everyone's going to have a moment of silence. Yeah, yeah. We've been in the mall sometimes, bro, and they just do it over the loudspeakers. Yeah, just stops. Yeah, everyone just stops.
00:18:38
Speaker
No matter where you are, in the shop, know walking around, everyone just stops and just pays z respects. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely some things they get right, for sure. Yeah, I think they do, Anzac. And 2UP is something I've never heard of in New Zealand. I even talked to my dad about it because he was in the army for a bit and he he didn't know about it.
00:18:57
Speaker
What is it? for those who don't know what 2UP is, 2UP is a game that they used to play um over in wherever, but the Anzacs used to play.
00:19:08
Speaker
And they have a piece of wood that you hold in one hand and you have three coins on it. and um and the deal is don't know what they call them the tosser let's call them a tosser that sounds appropriate the tosser tosses them up in the end tosses them up in there and then they land on the ground and it's the majority of like out of three how many coins are the heads or how many coins are tails I'm wording that wrong
00:19:42
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, a spinner, I think it's called. Spinner. Yes. and um And then say, like, if there's two heads, heads wins. If there's two tails, tails wins. and um But before you do that, you have a whole bunch of people around the square or the circle just fucking betting with the person next to them. Ten bucks, eh, heads? Yep, suitors, I'll take that bet.
00:20:02
Speaker
I think that's cool, lads. And it happens at all RSLs. We're fuckload of pubs. I think that's mean, is it, they do that? I think you probably hit on something there yeah that just kind of made me realise. I think Aussies are not afraid to lose stuff, eh?
00:20:15
Speaker
Yeah. Like, they're in it just to play the game, but if they lose, was like, shoot, you know, hey, that's not the point. The point is we had fun playing the game. Yeah, yeah. Where I think, yeah, i don't know if it's just New Zealand, but a lot of places are all just like, no, I don't want to play because I don't want to lose.
Anzac Day Tradition: Two-Up
00:20:31
Speaker
feeling Yeah, that's true, eh? Like, you see when the All Blacks lose, man, like, it's the end of the fucking world. Yeah, they just take loss too hard. Yeah. Like, I don't know. But no, that's, yeah. So i've just looked it up. Two ups at a traditional Australian gambling game involving a designated spinner throwing two coins, usually Australian pennies, up into the air.
00:20:51
Speaker
Players bet on whether the coins will fall with heads up, both tails or up or one of each known as odds. um yeah traditionally played in pubs and clubs throughout Australia on Anzac Day. Yeah, but only on Anzac Day. Yeah, Marcus shared experience with diggers.
00:21:09
Speaker
Yeah. i said that I don't know about that, actually. I mean, I'm not going out to pubs on Anzac Day, so that's probably why. No, it's pretty cool. like ah i've I've done a couple. I think I went to Winderoo, I think it's Winderoo, a couple of years ago and um and had a bit of a jam. I think I went and done it in Perth once.
00:21:29
Speaker
But it's just pretty cool going and watching, eh? Take 50 bucks and see if you can double That's it, yeah. dear And then you go spend it on beers. Yeah, well, that's it. like That money doesn't really leave the pub. It just gets shared around. It's like, oh, well, it's you all around then. It just goes from one side of the circle to the other. It's all about playing the game, yeah.
00:21:46
Speaker
but That's cool. um What else have been some some fun things over here? Well, yeah, go go back to where you moved from ah New Zealand to Sydney, but obviously you're in Queensland now.
00:22:01
Speaker
So what was the... Yeah, well... And when did... How long did that take you to move here? I here... So I got my apprenticeship through Nina, because she was working for Scott's.
00:22:15
Speaker
and she got me apprenticeship there and that's where it sort of fucking started you she she just said you need do you need to make some money you need some direction yeah so yeah she was fucking awesome as in there and yeah i owe her um a lot of things a lot of lessons in my life so it was was really good But yeah, I ended up just going doing the mine side thing, and i don't know, I just never really seemed happy or content, or I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
00:22:42
Speaker
And that's a big, like, yeah, I mean, because you were doing what, um what were your rosters? Oh, two and one, so four and one, seven days, seven nights, seven off. Yeah.
00:22:53
Speaker
But um I don't know, just, I thought that's what I wanted, and then you do it, and you just... That's not what I wanted at all. I thought it was making money was what I wanted, but it just wasn't.
00:23:04
Speaker
And it makes sense now that you know we come from like big families and stuff like that, and money never made us happy, or was everybody around us ever happy? Yeah, that's true. I done that for like three and a bit years.
00:23:17
Speaker
And then back to Sydney, and I was just like, oh, I sort of need more. but I need something different, so I ended up just like, fuck it, why not? Just come up here. So went and got me house in Robina. And then, um yeah.
00:23:32
Speaker
Yeah, i i definitely prefer Queensland to Sydney. I was there three years. Yep. And after working labouring, got a job doing for this the federal government.
00:23:43
Speaker
Yeah, true. They had a big push to change of government they were doing a whole bunch of admin stuff, so i got roped into that. And I fluked my way into like a leadership position where i looked after a couple of people. didn And then, yeah, we decided to move here, um which is, yeah, like just the lifestyle up here.
00:24:04
Speaker
Sydney's, I mean, Sydney's good, but I think you have to be a certain age, like young person and have at least some...
Sydney's Multicultural Influence
00:24:14
Speaker
some foundation of wealth, I guess, or or or to enjoy. Yeah, it does suit an ambition. Yeah, well, yeah, that's that for an ambitious person that wants to climb the ladder still yeah sort of thing. but I do, honestly, I do miss Sydney. I liked Sydney. A lot of people didn't because it was so huge and things like that, but I actually liked how multicultural it was. Yeah, yeah. Like you could, like when we were in Kogor, you know, there's a lot of Asian influence. There's even a Bruce Lee statue in Kogor now, you know. Is there? Yeah.
00:24:43
Speaker
Yeah. and um But then you sort of go a little bit west and then there's like Lebanese, Vietnamese. and But you'd go to those places and it's 100% like that culture, you know? Yeah, definite not just yeah, Not just, oh, there's just more Sudanese people here, but every shop was that way, you know? like And it was you go down the road and it's something else, something else, something else. thought it was awesome. introduced to so many different foods and cuisines.
00:25:07
Speaker
moving here like so limited back in New Zealand about what you can have access to eh but here it's just like every little set of shops has its own like bakery ah food place and dairy and all that sort of stuff you know get to try it's easy to try a heaps of different things by Vietnamese pork roll eh oh Vietnamese oh boy yep yep yep Actually that, just the ramen, the noodles and stuff over here, it's just so good.
00:25:39
Speaker
first Chicken parmi, eh? Like when my brother comes over, he's like, oh, let's go to pub of chicken parmi. That's a staple, Any club or pub you go to is like chicken parmi. We'll still go to a restaurant and I'm like, fuck, what's that? Chicken parmi. You can't get a wrong. here And they're fucking huge, Yeah, yeah. It's like a bigger than the plate.
00:25:58
Speaker
yeah like like good one is chickens ain't that big some of those things they'd fucking hammer the shit out of those to get them that big they'd say sew three chickens together in their last days of life so they could just slowly fuse this chick's got three arseys what's he four wings on this chicken what's going on yeah and it's got a cow hoof but um na yeah that those those stand out for me Yeah. Yeah, like you said, the melting pot that Sydney is. A lot more true blue Aussies up here. Yeah. um But still, you get those little pockets. Like Sunnybank is where you go for the fucking primo Asian food. I live down the road from Sunnybank, and a friend took me there maybe, don't know, eight months ago.
00:26:43
Speaker
And didn't I didn't even know it existed. I went there, and was just, holy fuck, this place is out the gate. Yeah. and And it's relatively cheap compared to other like um restaurants and things like that. e They know how to do food good, man. I anyone that comes to Australia is to go and do like a Korean barbecue if you can. Oh, it's Korean barbecue there. There's one there that's like four stories up to some shit. fuck That's top tier. A hot pot.
00:27:10
Speaker
Hot pots are good. um Look it up if you don't know what it is. And yeah, bar me's. Bar me's a primo. even ah Even kebab shops, though.
00:27:21
Speaker
Oh, HSPs, bro. I love HSPs, yeah. Or snack packs. Yeah. I took my boys to get a snack pack the other day. I realised, was looking at them, I was like, fuck, he's never had this. And they're like, no. Oh, man.
00:27:33
Speaker
Bro, they were the best after a nod of the piss. Fucking go to Brattas and get a kebab. The brothers and... um Hursall? Yeah, Hursall. Hursall, yeah, yeah. Wasn't there one in, what was that Just outside of Rockdale, the next one there.
00:27:49
Speaker
Banksia? Oh, yeah, yeah. There was one there, and there was a brothel next door. And I remember going to get give one because they had um the Roxy Hotel, and Roxy Hotel was fucking gangster.
00:28:01
Speaker
And I remember walking out of there, and I'm like, fuck, I'm going to get a jump jump on the big line that's about to form. Go over, go get a kebab. And old old uncle, thou who shall not be named. What's that? Someone's double dipping. Bit of a Y-Holeian. He brings me up.
00:28:30
Speaker
I wake up at early one morning and get a text from him. And he's just like, oh, pick me up from fucking, yeah, pick me up from the garden And we're like, oh, righto. And he just pulls up he walks out the fucking alleyway out the back.
00:28:46
Speaker
And you're like, bro, you're still in your work clothes. And he just literally just hops in the ute and goes straight back to work. And you're like, that would have cost you a pretty penny. Oh, jeepers.
00:28:57
Speaker
Fucking hell. But yeah, gross. legal here. You can do that if you want to go and get a you know an interesting lunch. Or you can eat a buffet. yeah ah Yeah, you can.
00:29:14
Speaker
Which surprised me over here. yeah
00:29:19
Speaker
But yeah, it's ahs definitely been, um but for for us anyway, like as much as i I love New Zealand and I would like to move back, like Mrs has got a great job here. She's been in for over 15 years now, I think. but that's That's a length, eh? Yeah. don't see that often.
00:29:37
Speaker
No. And she loves it, bro. And she's been slowly climbing the ladder too, like not not wanting to. They just keep offering her, as hey, you should, this is the next step for you. And she's like, I don't want to do that. and they're like, no, you kind of have to. like yeah So she gets kind of dragged through the ranks, which is and she still loves it. So it's cool.
00:29:55
Speaker
Yeah. and And, yeah, the main reason we moved over, though, was just more opportunities for the boys as well, just to make sure they had and as much as they needed to explore a different opportunities and and that sort of stuff, which you yeah obviously kind will eventually be thankful for, for your boys having different opportunities. Oh, yeah, am, because I think, well, when I was back home, I was working in a sawmill, and I fucking hated it.
00:30:23
Speaker
it there was just There was just no future doing that, because I know if I stay back there I'll still be doing that. And so there was just more opportunity here. ah lot of people say, will you ever take your kids back home for the culture and all that sort of stuff? I'm like, that'd be nice, but I'd hate to spend all this time um learning all this stuff, taking on all these opportunities to only take it away from the boys. you know Yeah, and that's the hardest thing I had to grasp as well, is that I could move back, but my boys wouldn't want to. like that's Their whole upbringing has been living here. Yeah, there's definitely benefits of going home.
00:31:04
Speaker
But um yeah, i just I don't think I would want to take that away from I'd never forgive myself if it didn't go the way i intended.
Educational Choices: Ricky's Return to NZ
00:31:13
Speaker
you know But then I've seen like people go home and just absolutely thrive.
00:31:17
Speaker
Oh, thrive? Not thrive. Thrive. Yeah, well, it's now thrive. Thrive. Thrive. Thrive. That fella thriving over there. It's thriving. Yeah, so they've gone home and thrived it.
00:31:31
Speaker
like um Like James and Stacey and Ricky, Ricky Russell. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They fucking went home and thrived um that i Ricky, she she's the man. she just She said, um I want to become a nurse.
00:31:45
Speaker
And they're like, oh, yeah, we'll put you through school. And she goes, no, no, I want you to pay for it. I'm going move home. And everyone everyone's just like, what the fuck? She goes, yeah, i'm moving home. So she went home because she didn't want her parents to pay for education. So she moved home and because she's a Kiwi, you know, like she gets support and grants and this sort of shit. And she just, she'd done that all herself. Obviously, obviously people will help you along the way, but She was like, nah, fuck that. And then I think... Yeah, yeah. And then I think like a lot of parents, they get to the point where they start following their kids, you know, like the your kids start teaching you. And then eventually yeah during when COVID and that happened, Nat and Jimmy were just like, yeah, sweet, we're going home too.
00:32:26
Speaker
And then um yeah James and Stacey, brand they they thrived it too. um I think Stacey pretty much the Māori from Snowy River.
00:32:38
Speaker
and Or what do I call them? What's that fucking... That cowboy... That cowboy show? Not Landman. The one, Yellowstone. Oh, Yellowstone, yeah. He's like Wherostone.
00:32:52
Speaker
Or Greenstone. Like over here, he was just real quiet and played games and then you go back and he's just... but He's got him a farm dog. he's got He's got the longest hair.
00:33:05
Speaker
but He allegedly smokes heaps of tobacco. What? You just see him on horses and shearing sheep and shit. That's actually quite scary, bro. He's turned into Greenstone.
00:33:18
Speaker
Yeah, seeing these kids get older and and take up these vices and stuff, it's like, what? Man, they'll feel old. Yeah, so I think um move yeah everyone everyone's got their own way of doing it.
00:33:31
Speaker
Yeah. But, yeah, like, it's... Home will always be home, but i think there's just too much benefits to being here, particularly at the moment. um It's a... It's a place, I think, that's probably...
00:33:48
Speaker
Like, it's definitely ahead of New Zealand economically, obviously just because of the size. But I always used to say when people would ask me, like, what's it like living in Australia? I said, it's kind of the same as New Zealand. It's just the cost of living is kind of the same, but your standard of living is higher. Yeah.
00:34:06
Speaker
Like, for that same money, you just get more. You seem to get more. So... um i think, well, obviously, I don't know, shit and I'm not political at all. But I think people just, it's a culture where it's just accepted that is the way it is.
00:34:22
Speaker
But over here, they like people are like, no, no, no, no. We want better. We want better. I was thinking about this the other week. And um like there's a place in up north called 1770. And that's where, was it, Captain Cook landed in 1770? Oh, hey. So landed.
00:34:39
Speaker
january twenty six and seventeen seventy is when he landed and um And the invasion started. Invasion day. But then you like 1770, I don't know how many years ago that was.
00:34:53
Speaker
Well, 1770, 1870, 1970. So what's Yeah, So when when they they would confront They were on a sail ship. They were confronted by Aboriginals and their source of food was hunting with spears and fishing and stuff like that. And only in 250 years, well, like in 200 years, where they're building the Harbour Bridge and they're building Centrepoint Tower.
00:35:22
Speaker
and look So they've progressed that far in only a couple of hundred years. and then Like any good colonising nation, empire. Yeah. Well, they bring all that technology with them, though, eh? Yeah.
00:35:35
Speaker
their Their progress has been next level. And then now we're sitting here recording the podcast. Yeah. We send images and videos and and whatever to and likes to each other over signals that are not seen.
00:35:48
Speaker
speaking Speaking of sending likes to people overseas, we've got George Ruthless Deception just joined us, just chimed in. Welcome to the party, Kaz. Kaz, fuck yeah. Sounds like he's a deep into it already. Oh, yeah, been going for a little bit. Colonisation. Well, we were leaving that to the end, but it kind of like just sort of seeps in every now and then. But, um yeah, we're just yeah i pretty much just saying who we're thankful for, for getting us here.
00:36:15
Speaker
You know, the all the support and stuff like that and how it's it's kind of better for our kids now and and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Definitely there's a lot more opportunity over in Aussie. There's a, yeah, like,
00:36:29
Speaker
there's a reason you don't see many Aussies over here. yeah Yeah, we were talking about that earlier. Yeah, that doesn't really happen the other way. i think the comment I made was it's more the retirees heading from Australia to New Zealand.
00:36:43
Speaker
I think I've only got maybe three Aussies in New Zealand in my time there. I was talking to brother, and he gets he gets a few i dealing with him, but they're like a highly qualified retirees.
00:36:54
Speaker
tradies that are going over to do some work on projects and stuff. So they're probably not that permanent. and A lot of people from New Zealand are moving to Australia to better themselves and and have a high standard of living.
00:37:06
Speaker
But that's not the same. but People don't leave Australia to make a better living for themselves in New Zealand unless they've got obviously feel a fair bit of wealth behind them. and On the topic of like... um of the colonisation and stuff like that. One thing I was kind of thinking about the other day is, you know, obviously back in the day they had in the States and places like that, they had that a lot of, um, segregation, you know?
00:37:33
Speaker
Yeah. yeah And, um, like in general, it's kind of viewed as a, as quite a bad thing, you know, like, because the segregation was kind of like, obviously trying to treat people as less so stuff like that. But, um,
00:37:49
Speaker
Just recently it kind of occurred to me that there's like certain types of segregation that could be a good thing. So this is going to be a thing. But like sometimes a if you don't have a some segregation, some culture might be lost.
00:38:06
Speaker
yeah do Do you know what I mean? Like it might get watered down. Assimilated. you know Yeah, like slowly but surely, you know, there's less of your culture is getting passed on, passed on, passed on because, you know, wherever you may be from, like, do do you think that's a like a negative side to so but the blending of cultures?
00:38:31
Speaker
Yeah, I think... um So what what I learned when I went to WA, like, because because you're in Sydney, you don't... Like, you have Redfern and things like that and Quakers Hill and that, where, you know, there's lots of originals and things like that.
00:38:44
Speaker
But it's... I don't know. The issues are not as much as... Well, as prominent, I suppose, as they are, like, when you go to WA. Like, when went to WA...
00:38:56
Speaker
They talk about... um Fuck, I forget the words, so don't quote me or cancel me. um Like, they have their own they have their own laws and stuff out out and out in the sticks and shit, and...
00:39:10
Speaker
in their communities and stuff, and the police sort of just let them do their thing, which I think is quite cool, because then they they have an option, you know, if they want to be, um join, i suppose, the white society, don't know, the English society or whatever, the the current society, they can, but you can sort of stay out there.
00:39:30
Speaker
But in New Zealand, you sort of just, you don't have that option. That's just the way it is, see you know. But I don't know that's a benefit or not. It's just the difference that I noticed, though. The reason they've got that option in Australia is because their originals are actually the indigenous people, so they literally evolved on that land. Yeah. You know? It was like in New Zealand.
00:39:52
Speaker
b even Like, definitely, Māoris were not evolved to live on New Zealand, otherwise they'd be hairy like me and Kev. They just rocked up first. Yeah, they they sought they saw New Zealand. That's the interesting a thing about New Zealand is that they sought New Zealand out. They knew kind of it was going to be there and ah they and it was over a period of Nah, Ma'wa, you fished it up.
00:40:15
Speaker
Well, yeah, that's, that's yeah, the one one that the origin, but like since then, they the peoples have been searching for it, and yeah, my understanding, it's a very long period of time of back and forth before it was even settled. Yeah, true. But that fishing it up, that's kind of like, because when they would actually go out on the boats, that's kind of what they were doing.
00:40:37
Speaker
They were fishing. You know, that these big travelling fishing missions or whatever. they Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Maui, he would have been a navigator or something like that, wouldn't he, back in the day?
00:40:48
Speaker
Like, he'd done everything, obviously, but... That's all they were, I think, back in those, is you had to, like, just... What do they say? You're not um separated by the ocean. You're connected by it. Ooh. Do you think he just... Maui was just the ultimate Hori?
00:41:04
Speaker
And, like, they're like, oh, where you been? Oh, I found a place over there and I fished it it up. And then, oh, you fished it up. Bro, that's a legend, eh? Because they didn't have Instagram to prove it with the photo.
00:41:16
Speaker
You know? Might we just fished it up? Yeah, there's got to be a modern retelling of that myth. No, not there. That's the South Island, you dickhead. Bro, that's his walk out. Mean.
00:41:27
Speaker
But when you think about, like, there's no written, like you say there's no Instagram photos, there's actually no written record of that. It's all verbal. So that's how they used to keep those stories alive. as And they obviously got embellished over time to make them seem more grandiose and, you know, amazing. Who's going to challenge it? But, yeah, with colonisation, it's a...
Colonization and Land Value Issues
00:41:49
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It's not a nice thing, don't think. i don't know, and I'll probably have to look this up, if there's any ah if there's been any successful colonisations of any country by another. Like, what what example are you talking about? What level of connectedness and segregation was given so that it did have a ah good outcome? Everyone got their kind of cake and eat it too sort of thing.
00:42:16
Speaker
Yeah, has there ever been an example of where it's actually worked helping a country or region develop without like in mass murder at the cost of the air yeah yeah no i don't think that ever don't yeah well how would you even because at first you've got to go there and be like oh we're going to take some of your land straight off the bat and that's not going to go down well m Well, apparently that's how it started in New Zealand, eh? The Maudies were like, ah if you want to live here, that's fine. But this is how we kind of do it. This is why... We'll take the land for what's not ours to give. But when they ah started assigning value to that land, a monetary value, that's kind of when it all went skewed and people were just out to make money. Well, that's the same way that that's the same thing what happened to the Aboriginals as well. as they you know They all lived off the land so well that
00:43:11
Speaker
and But they needed access to the rivers. They needed access to the hunting, you know, like, whereas as soon as people start buying up the land, well, fuck, no, you can't come on here now. Yeah. But it it also stopped taking the... Like, because they would...
00:43:26
Speaker
so like this This is probably just you a very watered down kind of of my understanding, but they would... the land they They knew that the land had to be kind of recycled.
00:43:37
Speaker
you know that it They would do a lot of burning and stuff like that, and then they'd move on and let that regrow so that they didn't just take all from the land. That was kind of them giving back. Now no one can go there now because it's it's but it's burnt, but it's in a period of regrowth. So by the time...
00:43:55
Speaker
seasonal and other generations come back around, you can use that land again. But with people building permanent structures there, that just kind of wiped that philosophy out. Well, they're there a bloody long time. They would have to pick up a few tricks.
00:44:09
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, they had to, to survive. They had to be in sync with the land kind of thing. You read that Sapiens book and they talk about originals being the last form before Homo sapiens, eh?
00:44:21
Speaker
Yeah. They describe them as, yeah, yeah, the last form before we became Homo sapiens. And and ever... ah a stage of evolution. Yeah.
00:44:32
Speaker
And I read three chapters of that book. It was very interesting. It sounds a bit wrong to to call them like ah a less evolved ah human. Well, they're probably more evolved to be fair.
00:44:44
Speaker
likewise Probably more evolved to the land, though. Like, you know, like, what what would you can, like, You stick your average homo sapien out into the bush and see you in the law. Yeah, that's true. rode my motorbike for an hour yesterday, man. I looked like a fucking lobster. But then you got Adam, was it Adam Goulds? Or Adam Goulds or whatever the fuck his name is. Those dudes can just run and run and run and run. You know, they can chase down fucking kangaroos and everything.
00:45:13
Speaker
And here's me. I can't run at all. I get puff walking upstairs and get sunburned at night time. You know, who's the most evolved, this homo sapien or them? Definitely not this one. think that's that's where it is. There's a lot to learn from First Nations cultures that are so in tune with the land. And it's everywhere. A lot of the nations that have been colonised had a system of governance, had a system of, you know, um how they treated the land, how they interacted with it, how they kind of cared for it. Or they knew, they knew because without it, rude.
00:45:49
Speaker
Yeah. There'd be no us. Not only the land, but one thing that's like not really focused on now by your average person is the stars. Like, um, you know, that's all, all the navigators used study back in the day. And those are, those are all the stories because I'd watch them all come up and follow them. And that would be the, if you wanted to head West, you'd follow that path of stars. And yeah,
00:46:12
Speaker
you know they are I found that pretty mind-blowing, that they navigated that way, all the all the different ways they used to navigate to get around down to here. Have have you guys been to Papa in Wellington?
00:46:24
Speaker
when i was When I was young, I imagine it's changed a lot. I spent a whole day there, pretty much, a whole day to kill. And there's a section there with all these wakas and all that sort of stuff, but they've got a...
00:46:37
Speaker
um kind of like mini documentaries set up by these kiosks around each of the exhibits about them ah tracing, like building an old walker and using those navigation techniques you mentioned to navigate.
00:46:53
Speaker
They went to New Zealand, Rarotonga, I forget where they ended up. I think they were going to Hawaii or something. But yeah, they did it exactly how they would have done it back in the day. Like no modern instruments at all, just the stars and their knowledge of the, have you seen that that mapping?
00:47:14
Speaker
ah how How the i Polynesian navigators used to, they had their own kind of mapping system. and yeah and the like your horizon was kind of mapped into these different quadrants and they could tell by whatever what star is how to orient the rest of it and that's how they navigate. it's Yeah, look up ancient level at ya ancient ancient seafaring. bloke I just want to point out I got like navigation. I saw a cool little animated one of them and there's a couple of different techniques they use, a but like they'll have the i'll have the different sections in the sky, like the different basically like star sign type shit, like
00:47:52
Speaker
That stuff. and then But then, like say, if they fucking if they know they want to head east, they'll see a ah star come up on the horizon, and they'll just follow that one, the closest one to the to the horizon. They'll follow that until it gets too high up in the sky.
00:48:07
Speaker
And then the next one that comes up on that path, they'll follow that. yeah And the next one that comes up. ah well So it ends up giving you a star path, which is like an actual fucking story. basically for them, you know, because they'll know they're looking for this star, they'll know they're looking for that one to come up. Yeah, it' yeah I forget what it's called, but the navigation skills of
00:48:33
Speaker
ancient cultures, I guess you'd say, was top-notch, better than some today, you know and they could do it without all those those instruments and stuff like that. Karakia and Mitch would be good for this topic, really. Yeah, yeah, possibly. Happy birthday, Karakia and Mitch. Yeah, happy birthday for yesterday there.
00:48:51
Speaker
And Kelly he Slavin as well on the 24th. Invasion
00:49:01
Speaker
Paul's just having a smile off. Yeah, It was quite loud on the old, came through the mic. It's just boiling a pot. Spotted underwater. or Yeah, yeah. Yeah, got I got lost. How many times have been in this house? One day? Eight, nine, ten? Fourth, fifth time, here yeah. Yeah, I got lost five times on the way here today. like That was kind of on purpose though, wasn't it? that Is what you set out to do, kind of? Well, set out to go a different way, but fucking hell, Maui isn't taking me to fish that up any lines anytime soon. No, there's always some, you know, key people, I guess, throughout history that sort of
00:49:41
Speaker
you know, form all these, um, these systems and all that sort of stuff.
John Scavuzzo: From Sicily to Australia
00:49:48
Speaker
But I guess more contemporary, who, who are some of the greatest Aussies today? Do reckon? Right.
00:49:54
Speaker
I've got, I don't know about it like a celebrity great Aussie, but I've got an Aussie that always sticks with me. This guy, John Scavuzzo. John Scavuzzo was this old dude when I was doing my apprenticeship for John's motor services and Walleye Creek where you were doing, um, where you were making a roundabout and and smoking tobacco with an uncle. Yep.
00:50:11
Speaker
Bob of the Cuzzy. Allegedly. Yep. Red eyes and all.
00:50:17
Speaker
John Scavuzo was this old dude and he was the father of the owner of the business and he, like back in the day, he started the business. But he was this old Italian dude and he used to like talk like an old Italian fellow, you know. I'd go in there and he'd go, hey, you're a big fucking cunt.
00:50:30
Speaker
You know, to call me a big fucking cunt or a big bully or whatever. And he didn't like anybody. But he liked me because I think I had my my New Zealand ways. You just go in there and you shut the fuck up and do what you're supposed to do you know, like as an employee.
00:50:45
Speaker
And so he used to teach me a lot of shit. But he was a good guy. His story, um i think, he told me. that he was a kid and they had to flee Sicily because his dad was being, you know, enlisted.
00:51:01
Speaker
But he had to, like they were forcing him into the army. enlisted, yeah, right, right. Yeah, so he was like, they were forcing him into the army and his dad was like, no, i'm not doing that. So they took off to Rhodesia, which is now Zimbabwe. Yes, yeah.
00:51:14
Speaker
So, you know, those are pretty next level times for Italy and stuff. And then they went to another place that was fucking absolutely next level. And when they got there, his dad got caught, I think, and he was put in a POW camp. I don't know if it's a POW camp, but a camp anyway for people who were fleeing the country. Like refugee camp or something like that? Yeah, sort of. But John, his mum, and his sister, they weren't because they weren't trying. They didn't have to be enlisted because John was just a kid so um But I think in that time, his dad had started up like a...
00:51:50
Speaker
you know, like doing jobs around the place, fixing trucks and tractors and all this sort of shit. So when his dad went into this prison, I suppose, John took over and John was like 12 or something and he started running this business. Fuck yeah. Charles Faber.
00:52:04
Speaker
Bro, he had slaves. He had slaves, man. And like, he was looking after his mum, like who was old as and, um well, older. And he had to look after his mum and his little sister. And so he took over the business and he had um six.
00:52:19
Speaker
hey He used the more derogatory term for black people. But he had six slaves. asian And he goes, yeah, every morning I'll get up and I'll get my revolver, put it in my pants and go and pick up my six N-bombs. And we'd go and get to work. We'd go and do all this sort of shit. And he goes, oh, we had a Bedford and we had to remove the cab. And like, man, six six of these fellas would just pick the whole cab up and take it off and pull the engine out. Like just all manpower, no winches, no nothing.
00:52:47
Speaker
it was just spanners and screwdrivers, nothing, you know. was like And I was like, fuck, this next level. And this dude was like 12, 13 years old. And when he realised his dad probably wasn't going to get out of this prison, he he seeked them something better because, you know, like Rhodesia, which and then Zimbabwe was was a fucked place to be.
00:53:07
Speaker
Civil wars and stuff like that. well Yeah, man, like coups and everything, you know. It hasn't really gotten any that much better. And so he he got them all to Australia, like this this fucking 13, 14-year-old kid.
00:53:19
Speaker
And yeah I think they started of in Cairns. And then he started an apprenticeship there, started a business, made his way down to Sydney and took his mum and his sister with them. And then, yeah, started a business there.
00:53:32
Speaker
And then, um yeah, and just sustained that. And it did really well. And then he was, had all of a sudden, he's got all the maintenance for fucking Borrell and Mascot. And it went all right. Yeah, right. And it got better and better. Then his son was a sparky and his son took over. then, you know, i was i was there and um John was quite old. John was like in the 70s by then.
00:53:56
Speaker
um So he was he did not give a fuck. He was a crack-up dude. He'd be a hardened man by then. Yeah, bro. Like, I've seen him take on 20-year-olds. They would dump him off cycle of concrete, and this dude's like, you can't put that in. And he'd just hop out a thing, like, hunched over and shit.
00:54:11
Speaker
And just going off a little bit. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I know, he's a man Italian again. Yeah, It's like, but you don you don't have your fucking revolver and and yeah and your six boys with you anymore. You know, like...
00:54:25
Speaker
You don't give a shit, eh, Os? But that dude, like, when I have hard times, like, I remember him and I'm like, bro, what he went through was next fucking level, you know? Yeah, yeah. And there's a lot of stories like that, eh, of people coming to Australia escaping, you know, civil wars and shit like that. Yeah. And it still to this day, I think.
00:54:42
Speaker
Like, I used to work in immigration, bro, and I got, um, where were they from? think they were from, like, the Middle East somewhere. And they were basically begging me to give them a, um,
00:54:54
Speaker
a visa so they could stay. Otherwise, if they got deported, oh, they were Colombians. Yeah. They're like, if we go back to Colombia, we're going to get killed. Yeah. Like, straight up telling me, I'm just like, I'll get my super supervisor, eh? Yeah.
00:55:08
Speaker
Yes. But it's Australia is good for that. I think they are quite, yeah if you go through the right channels, obviously, can escape a lot of those horrific situations. Yeah.
00:55:21
Speaker
um some ah Some great Australians for me has got to be your fucking succulent Chinese meal guy. was thinking about it. That man touched my penis.
00:55:34
Speaker
You're fucking waiting for a mate guy. yeah. That guy's a fucking legend too. Sitting on the grass verge. Just pretty much everyone telling people you can't park there when they're kind of broken down. I love those videos. I love doing that. You know, that's probably my thing.
00:55:52
Speaker
Oh, you're one with that fucking cunt that had left his windows down too. I got that from Lofty. I said Lofty do that one. Better wind those up and willll start spitting.
00:56:04
Speaker
ah ah
00:56:09
Speaker
oh let Let me just say, when I was spitting into that car, that was burnt out, so don't worry. Was it just spitting into a person's car? back and listen to the episode. I don't think Carl's one was, eh? No. I think a lot of the Aussies old me here have been pretty good natured, good humoured kind of people.
00:56:36
Speaker
Um, Not many dickheads. Yeah, i love it over there, eh, when Not many dickheads. When come to Aussie. Yeah. yeah Yeah. um when
Aussie Humor and Hospitality
00:56:44
Speaker
When I was... I think when i was back home, you get an idea, like, Aussies are fucking dickheads.
00:56:47
Speaker
But you get here, bro, they're hilarious. Yeah, they yeah they're fun dudes. They can be, yeah, hilarious. i so I told this story before, I think a couple of years ago. But um when me and AJ went to the Olawa pub and we walked in, and this this old fella comes up and gives us two schooners, and he goes, boys, um I just...
00:57:06
Speaker
I just wanted to buy you a beer because I looked over and seen two of the ugliest cunts I've ever fucking seen, bro. This dude was ballsy, man. I was just like, what the fuck? I look at Toast and he just wanted to fucking smash this dude. And he goes, no, no, just kidding, man. I fucking love Aussies and shit. Yeah, have beer and all this sort of shit. And chilled it out a bit. And I think AJ's just like, fuck it, the balls on this cunt, you know? Yeah. He goes, anyway, boys, I want to go back and if you ever need anything, just go up to the bar and just tell them, you know, I own this place. And we're like, oh, okay, chill, chill. Bro, I've got to say, you and AJ together do make quite a striking pair. Oh, bro, we'd have handsome children, eh? We would have handsome, handsome children.
00:57:48
Speaker
But then, yeah, we we looked like the most terrifying bouncers during the day. um But then AJ goes up to the lady at the bar. And he's like, you put the rugby on? She goes, no, no, this is a league pub.
00:58:00
Speaker
We don't put rugby on around And he goes, oh, we're just talking to the owner. He said, if we need anything, come and see us. Oh, come and see you. She goes, who? And he goes, they follow that. And she goes, is it just an alcohol? So it was just this dude just decided. But I don't know, he probably had bet his mate saying, I'm going to go and solve these cunts and they won't even do anything let's go fuck with these two Kiwis. But that's like, that's proper Aussie for me, you know? Yeah, I think, yeah, you're right there. Yeah, sounds like a good cunt.
00:58:27
Speaker
Actually, I've been described as quite ugly a number of times. Let's not dwell on that. let's One more time I was called ugly. There's many more. But um' this dude that i used to work with, Poops, we call him Poops because he shit his pants a lot.
00:58:41
Speaker
That's a great Aussie. And umm he came up to me and called me a rape baby. And I'm like, what the fuck? And he goes, because... And he goes, reason I called you that is because you're fucking ugly. And you're so ugly that no matter what, a mother always loves her child.
00:59:00
Speaker
But not if that child was a result of a rape. Oh, fucking hell, man. Actually, that brings up a good point. Aussie insults are next level. yeah they they they yeah they They sting a lot harder than you first initially think. They're trying to cause trauma. Yeah, definitely. And if you don't laugh it off, you're a bitch.
00:59:21
Speaker
But that's that's like that's their version of coming up and going... Hey, man, how are you? Are you having a nice day? Can I get you anything? It's not. I'm going to fucking insult the shit out of you first, and then we can be friends. However you react is how, if we're going to be friends or not. Yeah.
00:59:36
Speaker
Yeah. You've got to be quick. You've got to be quick around them. For sure. And what about, no one said anything about Trubber? Yeah. Oh, yeah, watched it the other day,
00:59:49
Speaker
I mean, of he's one out of a dude. That is a great movie too. Yes. That Topper movie is a great movie. Have you seen some of his interviews he did after yeah all that shit came out? seen that one where he's just shooting that gun off with that reporter? Yeah, he's playing Russian roulette with that reporter. He's like, this go but let's a cat. Oh, let's survive that one. New Zealand's got Hori Shaw, but Aussie's got Chopper playing Russian roulette with a reporter.
01:00:18
Speaker
Fuck yeah. Oh, we got William Wairua. Gives it a bit of a hiss-hiss-puss, and then Chopper's just got a sauna shotgun. Oh, perry. he's out of a dude. Yeah, that movie's a classic. Yeah, I listened to his audio book the other day. 23 years and nine months in jail. And he just talks about all his time there.
01:00:37
Speaker
Fuck. Fuck, man. It's just... yeaha He had his first sexual encounter with a ladyboy in jail.
01:00:50
Speaker
Where he was just like, but the boldness of the guy just to tell the whole world on this thing. Yes, that was my first sexual encounter. It was with a bloke with a massive pair of tits. They were great tits too. We'd passion for ages.
01:01:05
Speaker
I let him suck me off. I was fucking out of it, man. Oh my God. He's like the complete opposite of Steve Irwin, eh? Yeah.
01:01:17
Speaker
but It's like, yeah, you reckon that's Steve Irwin's fucking shadow person personality? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it was Rick and Mortier, they went into the other dimension, then and yeah, his shadow Chopper.
01:01:30
Speaker
He's wrestling crocodiles, and Chopper's just getting blows from trainees. And praising it. Yeah, yeah. That's the best route I've ever had. Yeah, and blowing it in a great set of tits.
01:01:44
Speaker
They do make a bloody good movie, though, eh? The Aussies? Yeah, yep. I do agree. ah the The film industry here is is really good. Yeah, for sure. Well, I mean, can we wear that's another goodie.
01:01:54
Speaker
All movies are being made here. ah Eric Banner. Eric Banner isn't just a fucked... Well, he was Chopper. Yeah, yeah. But he's just in fucked under good movies.
01:02:06
Speaker
Yeah, I mean...
01:02:10
Speaker
Who else would you you put up there in that kind of category? Oh, who's that NRL dude? Lord might know this. um he's ah Ben Cousins was AFLA.
01:02:24
Speaker
um But the NRL dude... Oh, he was a legend too? Yeah, he is. And he was sitting there and pissing into his own mouth. Oh, fuck. Nah, I know this.
01:02:36
Speaker
Bring that up, Jamie. Pissing Bubbler, bro. He was from... Fuck. I think it was the Sharks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. but butla bird he was from um he was from um fuck i think isronax yeah Yeah, because we went to the pub that he'd done at it at, bro, in Cronulla. It's down on the beachfront there. Todd Carney? Yeah, Todd Carney. Yeah, there's North East and um I think Fusion's just up the road. That was it. Cronulla, man, was a wild spot man back in those days. Like,
01:03:07
Speaker
ah You know, obviously, that was when was a bit younger. and I didn't really have any money go up, but every now and then, we'd end up going down in all these or some shit, and there was always some next-level shit happening, eh? I remember going into a Fusion once we walked in, and fucking John Uffa, Sonny Bull's younger brother, he was a bit of a wanker, um he's in there just off his fucking head, like, rolling all over the floor or some shit.
01:03:28
Speaker
And, you know, it's strict dress code, strict everything and and everything like that. And then Sonny Bill just walks in, bare feet, shorts, singlet, and just picks him up, puts him over his shoulder, walks out. We're like, what the fuck?
01:03:40
Speaker
You don't see that shit every day.
01:03:45
Speaker
I've got to give shout outs to someone some notable Aussies here. Kenny Freeman. Oh, yeah. Obviously. yep um I think that's generational. Thorpedo as well. Yeah. yeah Gay Thorpedo even. Well, being an indigenous athlete, you know, giving them a shout out as well.
01:04:05
Speaker
Yeah, Thorpedo being the greatest fastest homo on the planet in the force. Yep. Andrew Simons. What was that? i was going to say...
01:04:18
Speaker
Andrew Simons. Cricketer. but He was mad, kind of. Mad cricketer and he was just the fucking proper angry dude, Oh, yeah. He used to play... He played that... Was it a celebrity state of origin game or some shit like that?
01:04:35
Speaker
And he was just fucking menace on the field, bro, just trying to start fights in there. It was like a charity match. was like, bro, he was dang Read the room, read the room. Didn't give a fuck, eh?
Niko's Hard Drive Incident: Parenting Lessons
01:04:47
Speaker
Yeah, so, well, this Australia Day special, um thanks thanks for joining us here. Kazis was there. think we wanted to, I think to go back to some kind of um consistent ah
01:05:04
Speaker
sections in the potty, do we have any poor form that we can chuck in here as well?
01:05:11
Speaker
um I got one for my son Nikora actually the other day. Tiana got a phone call from, he's at vacation care at the moment, and Tiana got a phone call saying that Nikora's been a, they called him a ringleader of some bad shit this that's happened.
01:05:31
Speaker
And they said that... Instigator. Yeah, yeah. Their work was ringleader. I was just like, oh, settle down. Jesus. Man, chopper. But they they said he pulled the he pulled a hard drive off the back of the... They have a huge TV and the hard drive's got heaps of movies and shit on it.
01:05:46
Speaker
They pulled the hard drive off it and then went outside and started bashing it around with a cricket bat and then threw it over the fence. Destroyed threw it over fence. And we're just like, what the fuck? Like, he doesn't even take a bottle of water upstairs without asking. Do you know?
01:06:00
Speaker
but It's just, it's not him. Very out of character, No, then that's just not true. It's not true. But then I started thinking, I'm one of those parents, they they're just, no, my son can't do any wrong. So I said, fuck I'm going to go the open-minded.
01:06:12
Speaker
Went and picked him up. Add a bit of a yarn to him. And he broke down crying, man. He just like, he hates the thought of being in trouble and all this sort of shit. And he hates that he disappointed people and And um so I asked them, like, what happened? I asked them three times from three different points of views, and every single time the story was was being on correcto, and it was exactly the same.
01:06:36
Speaker
He went in there. These other kids had pulled the hard drive off the TV, and they put it on the fucking air hockey table, and one of the kids walked outside with it in his hand and then came back in and then put it down again. And Nikolas picked it up, and he thought it was a toy from the sandpit And I was thinking about I was like, oh, he's never seen a hard drive in his life.
01:06:56
Speaker
Like, we don't have removable hard drives. Yeah, right. You know, like it's not something. It's a foreign thing to them, yeah. Yeah, like we got Netflix and shit. We we don't need to put movies on hard drives or anything like that. So he didn't know it was. He just thought was a black plastic box and he thought it belonged our outside. So he took it back outside, put it outside.
01:07:14
Speaker
And um then a little bit later, ah know they were playing with it or something and he grabbed the cricket bat and he said, throw it. And he threw it and hit it. And then someone else started hitting it. They're like, oh, this is fun.
01:07:26
Speaker
And then I think it broke and somebody's seen inside it and they're like, oh, that's not normal. And so they furrowed the fence to not get in Yeah, yeah, High difference. But he didn't even know what the fuck it was until the teacher like went off. He was like, oh, it's a fucking hard drive. You know, he goes, I thought it was a plastic toy.
Racism and Personal Growth
01:07:43
Speaker
me So I'm just going straight up and just call Aussies racist as fuck. that's That's a bit of a harsh line to take, man. It was. It was. But it was actually quite good, man. Because I had lots of time to prepare, so I thought about what we can do here and all this sort of shit. And so broke it down into like a port where we could show support and take a learning out of it. It was actually quite good. I talked about being straight up and owning your mistakes, even if they're but you know just legit mistakes.
01:08:14
Speaker
you know Just accidents, you know, owning it. Yeah, and just ask questions if you don't know, eh? Yeah. Because at the end of the day, bro, he's going to make way bigger mistakes than that. And that's that's sad that they reacted like that because then he's not going to want to, you know, approach adults to question things anymore if you get if that's the response they get.
01:08:34
Speaker
That was my thought, bro. Like, he's going to get to 16, 17 one day and he's going to make a mistake. And if you don't change it now, he's not going want to come and tell dad and say, dad, I need help. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All fucked up, you know? look Yeah. Because, man, we made way worse fucking...
01:08:50
Speaker
Way worse mistakes, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, a little bit of poor form, but we took some good learnings out of eh? Oh, that's good, though. That's sweet. yes Bit growth.
01:09:01
Speaker
About you, Lord? Anything else you want to chuck in here on the ah Australia Day special?
01:09:09
Speaker
No, no, don't think I've got too much more to add there. I'm sure you've got some pretty good Perth
Challenges of Moving to Perth
01:09:15
Speaker
stories, eh? Yeah, well, that that was one thing we talked about is like how we got here, who helped us move over, you know, that sort of thing. So if you want to give anyone a shout out about who helped you get over here or, you know, i made it a simple process. Yeah.
01:09:30
Speaker
I was only, i think, nine when we first moved over there, nine and ten. and So, yeah, it was just... Just sweet we went over there as a family. um We stayed with my uncle Brett for maybe few months anyway, and then moved into our own house. He'd sort of moved back in with his um ex-wife for a little bit. He'd gone for a divorce and he'd moved back in with his ex-wife for a little bit after that.
01:09:59
Speaker
and we Then we were just in the house. and Then... um Yeah, the only other life people, like it was rare to see a Kiwi in Perth back then. like there were I was like one of the only one in my school.
01:10:12
Speaker
And um like the only other Kiwis we really knew over there was Ollie and James. And I think the Pedersen's over there at the same time. We didn't really see them much, you know.
01:10:26
Speaker
How long did you live over there for? hey It was pretty much like two years. So, yeah. dude just on those couple of school years and then we ended up coming back back to New Zealand.
01:10:40
Speaker
Just because your dad picked up all the hay over and there was just none left to do? Well, yeah, no, there was just too much hay here that needed picking up, bro. Couldn't keep up. So we come back and got that lock and bar contract.
01:10:52
Speaker
Oh, yeah, right. New Zealand couldn't keep up. The timeline. Yeah, yeah. but They needed Lionheart. Yeah. The government reached out directly. It's because you were the right age to pick up, hey then. We need you back here, mate. we've got a We've got a pretty high mileage Isuzu for you to have.
01:11:11
Speaker
and we We could probably just do a whole podcast podcast on fucking haytales.
01:11:18
Speaker
We all do that pretty much. Fucking crazy. He worked for um he worked for like Coca-Cola and that is like a i'm doing like welding and stuff like that. And then um he ended up was building as well.
01:11:34
Speaker
Then truck driving. remember doing the old go to work with the old man day on on the old truck one day. yeah?
01:11:45
Speaker
Yeah, fucking. and um Would you ever move back? he Would I? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep, I would. i've moved I'd move there probably sooner than I'd move anywhere else in the North Island here.
Social Life: Australia vs New Zealand
01:12:00
Speaker
Like, I'd possibly move to the South Island as well.
01:12:03
Speaker
And, yeah, like, maybe Australia. Yeah. Unsure where and unsure, like, what I would get up to over there. But there's, yeah, definitely, you know, there seems to be, like, better social situation side to things in Australia these days. i don't know.
01:12:24
Speaker
but We were talking about the yama he ye clubs and pubs here, how good they are. Yeah, like, so New Zealand, like, there's a real disconnect between that, like, nightclub and then pub.
01:12:37
Speaker
You know, there's not not really that classic bar that people might just go to, you know, for a bit of a ah drink. Not too hectic, you know. Play a bit of pool, you know. you know but not a nightclub.
01:12:51
Speaker
Yeah, not, yeah. No way there's going to be just fucking like uns music going all the time or you know or you' so loud you can't even have a conversation. Yeah, yeah. Or you can't get a drink because it's so fucking busy in there, you know, like just that sort of good level pub. light It happens a lot more down south because they'll just have those pubs in their towns, you know, people will just go, but like here in New Zealand, they're just, yeah.
01:13:16
Speaker
And they I don't know if they have Keno in New Zealand. Like, Keno's fucking huge here, eh? It's in every... Not anymore, really. In Canada, they have it, eh? They play it a bit.
01:13:29
Speaker
In Canada? In Canada, they used to have a one on there as well. It was like a Texas Hold'em poker. And you'd go to the machine. So, like, everyone in the country is sort of playing it at once, though. and then But they'll have the live broadcast stuff.
01:13:41
Speaker
Not broadcast, but it's like an animated thing that's up on the on the TVs for it. yeah and It'll be like instead of sitting around the table playing the hand, you know, and then you've put your bed in on and you the machines printed you off a two card hand.
01:13:55
Speaker
And then like that, you're playing in that round. Oh, right. That's pretty cool. And you're not only playing against the people on the screen, but you're playing against other people as well. In the venue. Yeah.
01:14:07
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Like, and your name will come up. They're like, oh, oh not your name, but they'll say um the winning hand was from Like we were staying in Roslyn, which is like the ski town. It's like the weekend from Roslyn. Yeah. That was pretty cool.
01:14:20
Speaker
Yeah. And they have, well, I think back in the day they used to have those um machines. You can put some money in, you get a card, and you'd flip up, but like before scratches were a thing, and you you might get a poker hand out of that.
01:14:35
Speaker
But, so yeah, that's old school. But, yeah, man, there seems to be a lot more things to draw people to the to the venues, eh, here? to like with the Kino and the the food like the chicken palmies you know you can go to pretty much any public club in Australia get a good chicken palmie. wonder that sort of extends to all adult venues like I wonder what if somebody could ah send an email into the Gmail address. Oh i'd send us an email to cuzchatpodcastatgmail.com Yeah give um give Australian versus New Zealand brothel reviews you know.
01:15:08
Speaker
Oh, I've never frequented one in either country, but I'd like to hear some reviews and see the differences there. Yeah, look, I i mean, ah well I wouldn't... It's, to be honest, ah something on the bucket list. i don't know if I ever get to do it, but it would be an experience, that's for sure. Oh,
01:15:28
Speaker
hang on, I think an email has just come in here, actually. Oh, that was good. Someone's listening live.
01:15:39
Speaker
but and Randy from would surely be better.
01:15:58
Speaker
I think they'd probably have a wider selection of nationalities, wouldn't they? But yeah, I suppose in general, way because like you have, like we were talking earlier about Sydney being so multicultural.
01:16:10
Speaker
Yeah. You'd have to. i I couldn't imagine what other the differences would be.
01:16:17
Speaker
ah Let's be real. Australia's probably got some of the nicest looking chicks in the world though, right? Yeah. Probably on average, day yeah. Yeah. Got to be up there. Yeah.
01:16:29
Speaker
And there's a lot of mixed race girls here too. A lot of Thai, Filipino yeah um wives that look they actually look for Australian men to marry.
01:16:47
Speaker
um There was a lady up the road i used to own a...
Multicultural Social Venues
01:16:52
Speaker
was like a taco place or whatever. you a And she basically asked, we went there to order food and she was like, oh, you know, any single Australian man, my sister this needs to move over from Philippines, needs a man. was like, what?
01:17:09
Speaker
Yeah, and that's probably is what they do, is they hunt for Australian men to in.
01:17:16
Speaker
ah was like if we If we're comparing woman to Australian women to... Well, actually, Australian brothel workers to New Zealand brothel workers.
01:17:27
Speaker
I was awesome some the melting pot of um New Zealand brothel workers recently. Turangi. And I could say, um I'm going to vote Australia.
01:17:38
Speaker
well never one Australia gets my vote. And I've seen my Uncle Gundy with... ah with a leaking cyst on his neck, I'm going to say, you know what? It's looking like Australia's winning this.
01:17:53
Speaker
Australia, the clear leader. Yeah, so far, anyway. Oh, awesome, awesome. I think with a brothel, yeah it's got to be, it's like a pub, you know, like the best pubs are the ones that people that don't even drink go to, you know, like that's how you attract people to to the pub get people that don't drink in there same with the brothel you know you want to make it nice for someone that's not coming there for sex oh yeah just have that as an option you know want to go for a few skis a chicken parmy hey do you want to go in there for a shag oh this sweet is have another beer hey
01:18:29
Speaker
I've been to a couple of strip clubs here in Brisbane, in the valley.
Strip Club Diversity
01:18:34
Speaker
Well, one got dragged in there by a couple of mates. um Yeah, and just there, like the multiculturalness of it, you've got like black ladies, brown ladies, white ladies. You were saying or fear that Berta recommended that one.
01:18:54
Speaker
Recommended that I like can shut my mouth. and Actually, I'm fucking, what was the mean one? Sefton Playhouse in Sydney. I don't frequent those places, but that place was, it had a convenience store, so if you needed bread, you could just look hey, can have a loaf of bread, two litres of milk, two silicon titties, and I'm here again, you know?
01:19:20
Speaker
Yeah. Nah, that's for dudes that say they're just at the shop, bro, so they can just run into there with their phone. I'm still at the shops. so There's a big line. There's a queue for the bread.
01:19:31
Speaker
Yeah. Surely they can have like a one-stop shop sort of place these days where you go in there, you know, like you choose ah um like an Italian chick, bro, then you go out for like spaghetti bolognese or lasagna, and then, you know, then you guys then't they've got the whole fucking...
01:19:49
Speaker
flow on from there. You know it's like a full date. Is that the Italian special? Go Japanese chicken then. Tune in next week or next time when we have a full report from another Kazis.
Life in Australia vs New Zealand
01:20:02
Speaker
Did Randy from Inverkaga actually have something to say or did he send in a blank email?
01:20:08
Speaker
yeah wouldn Yeah, with dot, dot, dot, tell me more. I'm keen on this topic. But yeah, that's been good. Australia has been good to us.
01:20:24
Speaker
ah it's got it's It's got its moments. There's been some fucking crazy things happen recently, but all in all, yeah, it's been a good move. or for my whanau anyway. As I said, we'd love to get back to NZ at some stage.
01:20:39
Speaker
Just hope things start getting better there, at least on par with the, you know, the brothel situation over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, well, I'll tell you what, it's actually shocking over here at the moment. No, the brothel situation or just New Zealand.
01:20:56
Speaker
Yeah, the brothel situation is... No, New in general... Yeah, well, that's what I mean. Kim still hasn't paid her ticket. The weather's shocking. At the moment, it's been raining every fucking... but one One week on, one week off. Farmers are loving it, but the the the lake is poisoned at the moment.
01:21:21
Speaker
Well, think they've flushed a bit more water out of it. Is there too much alcohol in there? Yeah, too much. way I've never seen it that colour in my whole life. It was like a light green fucking turquoise oh um shit going on. Yeah, i was like, whoa!
01:21:36
Speaker
I drove past because you can see it now from the road, eh? Yeah, yeah, And, um yeah, prices are everything ah crazy. Yep.
01:21:49
Speaker
Car parts, hard to come by. There's tariffs, eh? Oh, Kazzy, so we might sort of wrap it up there then if um that's all we kind of had
Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement
01:22:00
Speaker
today. Thank you for joining us, everybody, and i hope you enjoy the podcast. And if you do, please send us an email, they email again, kazjappodcast.gmail.com.
01:22:14
Speaker
Thank you the Kazzy podcast. George Reefers Deception from NZ and Macho Man Randy Average for joining us today. Stay safe out there, listeners, because you know that's what it's all about, eh?
01:22:30
Speaker
Because... Fuckin' me. Fuckin' me.