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SE1: EP4 Aradale Ghost Tour
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Dousing rods, a ghost called Kerry and a very spooky encounter with an unknown entity. We hope you enjoy Katherine's recap of her ghost hunting experience at Aradale Mental Asylum.
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Introduction to the Ghost Tour Episode
00:00:01
Speaker
We're back. We're on to something a bit different this episode. We're going to do a deep dive into the Ararat Aradale Asylum tour. Yes. It's exciting. I've kind of already pre-recorded a little intro. So maybe we just play that now.
00:00:26
Speaker
Yeah, we'll go straight into it.
Preparation and Start of the Ararat Aradale Asylum Tour
00:00:28
Speaker
So we're gonna, this this was recorded a while ago. So let's give our listeners some context. So you did this like last year in what, July, August? So wintery, winter ghosting vibes. But we've just, we finally come through, you know, holidays, Christmas, New Year's, and we're getting our shit together. and We're finally ah investigating the investigations that I had. It's pretty cool, pretty cool stuff.
00:00:56
Speaker
So enjoy Katherine's lovely ghost tour experience that she recorded for us. All right.
00:01:41
Speaker
ah Okay, so it's an hour to go until our ghost investigation tour.
Surreal Experiences and Hopes for Ghost Interactions
00:01:49
Speaker
and We're just having a beer. How are you feeling, Nathan?
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Speaker
um Pretty calm. I don't know what to expect so I'm going in with an open mind. Not really setting myself up for any particular expectation but we'll see what happens. I think that's me too. I think I was hanging on to something but I think I just really interested to walk this crazy building at night. I think that it will be a thrill in itself.
00:02:21
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's interesting in itself. Yeah. The fact that there's this large asylum that as far as I know is, you know, in its original form. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty cool. It's like the feeling is gonna be surreal like never experienced walking around in an abandoned building like this have we so that's that's half the thrill and then whatever else happens happens please just like give us some footsteps maybe but just a few goals yeah
00:02:58
Speaker
launch just like three or four print out over the course of three hours yeah golden now Perfect, perfect summary. We'll check back ah back in with you maybe during the tour or after, depending on how it all feels, guys. So, um yeah. Unless we're murdered by ghouls. Oh, that's my biggest fear. And Nathan's reminded me that no one dies on these tours. Because here I am going, what if I have a panic attack and he's like... I have natural forces, but like not from... Yeah, having a heart attack maybe. Not from ghosts.
00:03:37
Speaker
Anyway, are we're going to Dutch courage with our little drink, our little mid-strength beer and some mackers to give us strength. And then and then on we go.
Encounters with Spirits and Use of Ghost Detection Tools
00:04:12
Speaker
I am, there are just things, the intelligence of the things we were talking to were out of this world. um The guide kind of talked about this nurse Carrie, who is a spirit that's known to just be really like in in her living world. She was beautiful and would calm patients down just by using her voice. And then he literally said, like she said to be like the protector spirit that lives here.
00:04:43
Speaker
and then yeah the this It just progressively got darker and darker, so like we were at the start talking to spirits quite nicely, and then by the end we felt very gross.
00:05:00
Speaker
and it kind of The other reading I got about the really, really dark entity rang true, and Nathan can speak to that. but Yeah, I want to hear what Nathan thinks. I just want to know summary with what we've, what we've. Yeah. I'm a bit, I'm a bit drained after that. Yeah.
00:05:20
Speaker
up
00:05:23
Speaker
So we started ah we started yeah in the we morgue. We did. So that was pretty light and not really that crazy. I think he was just testing the equipment in there and using one of those light so that it's like a detector that if they, you know, two flashes for yes or to two flashes for no, one flash for yes.
00:05:52
Speaker
which we used quite a lot throughout the night. um But he was just testing it and that was okay. And then we went to the men's ward, which again, we were getting some activity in some of the rooms. so Nothing crazy though. You know, the the wand and the lights, you know, we're having trouble, I guess, coming up with questions to ask because they're all very yes or no based.
00:06:20
Speaker
it's that Yeah, it's so it's like, are you a patient? Are you a nurse? Yeah, you did you die here? Are you happy here? They didn't like answering. Did you die here? Like if you started talking about their death, they'd ghost you.
00:06:34
Speaker
pun intended, pretty quick. Yeah. And I guess the interesting thing, um the dowsing rots. So they didn't work at all for me. And we filmed this. They they work amazingly for Catherine. And we were told that it the the women's ward and the men's ward are apparently very sexist um with their communication. So the men's ward, they'll communicate with women more and the women's ward, they'll communicate with men's ward, which leads us to the women's ward where they still were not talking to me with the dousing rods at all. The rods would just stay perfectly still. But it was crazy because i like it was we filmed it, thank God, but it
00:07:23
Speaker
the evidence is insane to me. But when when when I'd speak through the dowsing rods and then say, can you speak to Nathan? It's like they jump from the dowsing rods to the flashing red machine instead. So they were communicating to both of us but if Nathan asked the question it would jump over so he could communicate. It was just really strange. It was pretty cool and you know at this stage I'm you know in the women's ward as soon as we got there that felt a lot creepier to me as soon as I walked in there. Just the I don't know it's the feng shui or the you know the higher
00:08:03
Speaker
ceilings because apparently the men got the lowest ceilings and the women had the highest ceilings. So they were a lot colder and died a lot more? Something about someone injecting a lot of money into the so the asylum but it went all to the men's ward apparently. But anyway so we went through the women's ward um And then the last building,
00:08:29
Speaker
um I can't remember what building it is. I think it was like, yeah, I can't remember what building it was, but it's three stories and- Oh, is this the last building? Yes, it's three stories. And it's built on where they essentially burie um buried like mass burial- They burnt the bodies because the locals- Syphilis.
00:08:55
Speaker
um loonies in their local cemetery. That's the story. They they all were in infected. It was when the syphilis plague happened as well. So they they had a virus. Is it typhoid? Yeah, I don't know. But again, he did say that it was ah a lot of like the reason they were burnt was because they didn't want yeah They didn't want them in in the cemeteries. Anyway, it's a three-story building.
Exploration of Haunted Buildings and Personal Experiences
00:09:23
Speaker
um And he straightaway took us to the middle floor and into ah into a middle room. And in the middle room, there was some monitors set up um that we were all watching. And then he kind of just said, you know who wants to walk down the end of the hall with your torch, walk down the end of the hall, open the fire doors, walk up the stairs, walk down the hallway on the up upstairs floor, and then go back come back down and essentially doing a loop back to the middle room. I went second and I ah did not hear go upstairs, I heard go downstairs.
00:10:08
Speaker
And here's where it gets real fucked. Can I say my point of view before you continue? So someone's already done the loop and we're watching them on the screen and then the um the guide's gone. Who's next? And Nathan's you know enthusiastically I want to say like put his hand up like yep I'll go yeah I was keen to just do some exploring so he's gone down the hallway and we're watching the monitors and then Nathan rocks up on the third monitor he should be on the first monitor and everyone's like oh and then the guard was like oh no um
00:10:47
Speaker
And we're like, what? He's like, this will be interesting. like ah He didn't want to reveal anything, but he was like, this this is going to be interesting. We'll see how this goes. And so Nathan's kind of walked down the corridor. And then we just like, so it's a loop. So Nathan should have just essentially kept walking, gone through the end door, and he would have found us again. But while we're watching him, a light flickers in a room that he's not even near.
00:11:16
Speaker
um And then like three orbs appear behind him. And then he turns around before he even goes, like he's so close to the door, but he turns around and comes back the other way. Back the way I came. Yeah. So we're watching this going, what's going on? So my perspective, I go downstairs. I'm fine. I'm thinking I'm going the right way. um But as soon as I exit the last step and go towards where I'm thinking I'm supposed to go. The air just left my lungs. I was, and the further I got, it just got worse and worse. It just was such a heavy, it's I've never felt anything like this before. And I can vouch. He was shook for a good 20 minutes. He was not good. I could could not catch my breath at all. And it's not particularly strenuous. It's like four steps.
00:12:10
Speaker
you know it's You know, we've been doing it all night and it just, i the the weirdest feeling of the air leaving your lungs and just not being able to catch your breath as soon as you get down there. ah And it just, you know, the further I got down, I just became disorientated and it felt like every room that was open that I walked past, it felt like I was just being stared at.
00:12:44
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i didn't know
00:12:48
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where I was and just decided the best course of action was to turn back. And I did it as calmly as I could. I didn't rush back. Yeah, you didn't seem stressed when we were watching. Yeah, I was like, if I start panicking, this is going to be way worse than it already is. And yeah, I got back to the room. And I think the first thing I said was that was That was so fucked. And the guy was like, yep, yeah I agree with you. He was like, that's what I said.
00:13:17
Speaker
So I was like, i yeah, that was
Paranormal Show Comparisons and Personal Feelings
00:13:22
Speaker
insane. that's ah So all night I was kind of like, yeah, this is cool, like, you know, technologies, but there's something different in sort of actually feeling it.
00:13:40
Speaker
that you've never felt before. Can't put a finger on it. And just became terror. And now, you know, when you watch, um, you know, those paranormal shows and things like that, when people like, I felt like someone was watching me, I feel really, you know, feel really weird or lightheaded. Um, I now have like a tangible experience to be able to relate to it. I don't know what the fuck that was that I never want to feel that again.
00:14:13
Speaker
Because that yeah really, wasn't I was really stoked to be there until I just shut down after that because it just drained me. And then someone that, um like when we got to that, like the whole experience just felt darker and darker as we went on. And I don't know if they planned it that way, but like when you... It just grows in activity. And the stories he has is wild. Like once everyone did the walk, there was about three of us that just refused and I stand by that after the stories he told. But yeah, essentially the there's doppelgangers that pretend to be him. So the amount of people that have seen him just like smiling and nodding and answering their questions with just like a look and stuff rather than speaking.
00:15:03
Speaker
um He's like, yeah, people see me around here all the time when I'm not even working here. Like, I'll be doing a ghost tour in Ballarat, so I'm not even in. in this asylum. um And essentially he started talking about downstairs. He's like, and I'm like, he agreed with Nathan. He's like, some people don't feel it at all. But he's like, if it's it's an area I really want to go down, it makes me feel awful. People have just seen black mass shadows and stuff down there. Like, so he pretty much confirmed, like, yes, you're valid in feeling the way you did.
00:15:37
Speaker
And just pe people's heads apparently just poke out of the doors because it's very like Selly like corridor Selly So yeah ended very heavy guys um and I just didn't I didn't want to Like even after all this walking through he was like so now you can explore and I was like I don't even want to like we just we just sat there with him I was like, what's the point?
00:16:03
Speaker
It was a weird feeling of, I kind of want to feel that again to see, like, I don't know, it was like a weird drug hit or something. Adrenaline. The adrenaline was off chops, like but also in my brain, I was like, no, you don't want to do that.
00:16:29
Speaker
And also I think because everyone sort of rushed down stairs after. Which is wild. I like you're not gonna that as a group. I don't know. It's like the energy will pick on you. I don't know. I don't know what it was, but it was...
00:16:51
Speaker
It kind of like, it just felt like I didn't know I was going the wrong way, but something was telling me like, you don't, you, you do not want to be right now, right this very second. Fucking leave. Like it's, it's, it's whole. I do believe that's the whole feeling and like, um, energy, I guess was concentrated on.
00:17:16
Speaker
Telling me to leave. Yeah, that's your gut instinct That's like yes. Yeah, that was crazy. I think my because I kept my I need a beer. Yeah, let's crack that open It's like 11 o'clock, but we're a bit buzzed um, so I'll tell my Story, so I've just fallen in love with dousing rods essentially guys um The footage we caught was insane. So we started with this um device
00:17:46
Speaker
device where it would flash once red for yes and twice for no and we're still a little confused with the feedback because we didn't quite understand we're like does that mean if it's on and off that's one anyway we're going to look at the footage and see how it is but it it was so intelligent Um, and then I got the dowsing rods and they were just going wild in my hands. So I was asking where the entity was. It was point to the same position, like multiple times. Um, yeah, it would cross to say yes. Um, and we kind of tested it a few times. So, you know, I'd be like, are you a patient? And it would cross to say yes. And then I'd be like.
00:18:30
Speaker
asked maybe three questions and then I'd be like so you're a nurse and it wouldn't cross just really trying to test the the movement of this thing but I think the most apparent kind of
00:18:46
Speaker
I don't know, proof was the fact that like we had something in the room talking to us. And as soon as I was like, can Nathan hold these and can you communicate with him holding these? They'd say yes. Right. But they still, and they still would communicate. So maybe technically they were right, Nathan, cause they were still communicating with you, but just through the other device while you were holding the rods. I'm like, I guess that that's not the wrong answer. Like they are communicating with you.
00:19:13
Speaker
Yeah, it was just so wild. So I'd start communicating with the dowsing rods. And then when Nathan would chime in with questions, the other device would start lighting up. So it's almost like it was using both. Yeah, we're just in a bit of awe. We didn't think it would be that intelligent. And there was one moment where we, um we really tested it and the reaction was so quick. And I think it was when
00:19:43
Speaker
It was only communicating, the spirit was only communicating through the dowsing rods. um And I think Nathan said, okay, so if you're communicating through the dowsing rods,
00:19:54
Speaker
Can you just communicate through the red thing right now? And it just, I think it was just the quickness of it. Like it just went boom, like really quickly. Like, yes. And we're like, shit. Okay. Like it was the response time was pretty much like an, in and like an immediate reaction. And I think that's maybe one of the moments that really shook us both. It was just so intelligent. Um, anyway, rambling a little bit. So we'll leave it here. And then I think.
00:20:24
Speaker
I'll break down some of the the stories I have with Erin. um Yeah. We need a beer and ah and and a sleep, I think. Good night. Say good night, Nathan. Good night. That was great, Catherine. Wow. Thanks, Erin.
00:20:50
Speaker
i What a time. No, yeah I have listened to all your audio and there's some really great um like videos of your ghost tour too. So that's something we have on the file. We'll eventually put that in a future episode showing notes section. We'll link you to the videos.
00:21:09
Speaker
Yeah, that'd be cool. See me stun mullet working with dowsing roll for the first time. Yeah, like it'd be cool just to flesh it out a bit more because how long was the tour?
00:21:21
Speaker
like So the tour was three hours. Um, it was, it was a hefty one. Yeah. Um, as I mentioned, like we went in with no clue how it would go down, but it was, yeah, it was very, it went quicker than I thought it would three hours while talking to ghosties. Yeah. Time flies. And were you disappointed when it was over? Like were you wanting it to last longer or were you like,
00:21:48
Speaker
in In certain rooms, yes, like in when we were kind of like having really good banter, this sounds outrageous, but we were having some solid banter with certain ghosts. It was, you know, oh, we're going to move into the next room. And, you know, me and Nathan would be like, well, we're not done talking to...
00:22:05
Speaker
Jimmy from cell one, you know? Right. By the end of the tour, as you heard from Nathan's account, I think we were like, pretty good to wrap it up there, because he was shook quite a lot. But yeah, it was just kind of mind blowing, like the ah just the journey that we went on with not knowing what we come into. I mean, I don't know, you see these things on YouTube, but people like communicating with ghosts and you're like, it's just a light flickering.
00:22:35
Speaker
What, who like, as if that's someone, you know what I mean? As if that's a ghost. I don't know. It was just very, it's just kind of the intelligence of when you ask a question and the response you get is kind of crazy to me. That was like the big standout for me. And like, yeah if I was like someone's skeptic, I'd be like, sorry, dowsing rods, right? He's just like, are you nervous? So you were shaking or were you like, how composed and like, how do you feel that work? Like, did you feel energy moving though?
00:23:04
Speaker
was it were you cold like you know it's the weird thing I didn't feel much like I wasn't like oh I can feel a thing going through my body like and yeah sister what everyone was using um these lights that flash you know once for yes or twice for no and I was just like I want to use something else because yeah like I just wanted to use the dowsing rods and they're like scientifically apparently um used in modern day for like uh finding like water currents or something underwater like there's an actual scientific use is that right fact check that but yeah um
00:23:47
Speaker
sure i say that yeah um Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure that's like, they're meant to cross over when you come across something underground, like geographically. So yeah, then and it's seen as something that like, ghosts can kind of channel into that energy of the dowsing rod. It sounds absolutely outrageous, but I think The fact that me and Nathan never got the same um response on them, that's the weirdest thing to me. It's like they were going off chops in my hand, like really responding to my questions, like crossing for yes, um not crossing for no. They would, I would ask, um where are you standing in the room? And they literally turn and point to where they were in the room. Sometimes they just like point behind me, like they'd literally spin around and point behind me.
00:24:40
Speaker
And i I tended to like ask contradicting questions. Like if I was like, are you a patient here? And they said like, no, then I'd be like, Oh, so you're not a patient and that, you know what I mean? Like I try and contradict them and they were always answering the right thing. Yes. So it wasn't, it it's definitely seemed intelligent. Yes. Yeah. I was just trying to like, yeah, I felt like they were very intelligent and it was kind of mind blowing how normal it became just to like the amount of activity in every single room like you just stand there for a few minutes all of a sudden there's a light pinging so you know that there's a spirit in the room and then they just take over the dowsing rods. I don't know man. I can't explain. Yeah I love that. I want to buy dowsing rods so let's add that to our project. When you say you got different responses from it did you because I noticed in the videos they weren't really moving a lot when you did them. Yeah but that's because
00:25:40
Speaker
at the beginning, you said that he's a bit more skeptical. So do you think it has to do with your energy current or like, I think so. Like if we're going to get into like a hundred percent believing this stuff, yeah I was so open to wanting to communicate. I don't know. Maybe that just makes me like this, like, ah like it's easier yeah. But then you had another theory. You had another theory about, um, I did, um, you were talking about how maybe.
00:26:07
Speaker
they weren't communicating with Nathan because of the war like the certain area of the asylum that you're with. Oh yeah because the guy that was taking us around the asylum did say that there's like in the men's ward sometimes um you get a better response like from a man because they don't want to speak to women and then same with the women they don't obviously want to speak to men because a lot of the people that mistreated them in these places were manly guards being um shit blokes. So yeah, like that's kind of why. And we started the dowsing rods with Nathan in the women's ward. So we were kind of like, Oh, that's probably why they're not working. So cool. So dowsing rods, check. So you really liked the dowsing rods. What about the EMF reader? Like the, um, like, did that respond well? Is that something that you think is kind of bullshit? Because there's like, sometimes there is literally elect, like elect
00:26:59
Speaker
trick stuff in the building that it could be picking up on? or Yeah, I didn't get into those. I don't think we had don't even think we had that. Isn't the EMF reader the thing that goes to red? What were you just talking about in terms of like, No, EMF readers are actual, so the I think the red things
Importance of Spirit Stories and Historical Context
00:27:18
Speaker
that we got were actually created to communicate with ghosts. So there are some tools that we had that were actually like, I don't know the people that build these things like objects, but yeah, it definitely wasn't.
00:27:31
Speaker
ah scientific thing. Because an EMF reader is like you're scanning like a wall and you're seeing like a meter go up and down. Yeah, so it wasn't that. Yeah, no, this was literally you sit at like on a ah ledge of a window or you hold it in your hand and you just ask it to communicate. Can you please light this up if you're with us? And then it lights up. And then you're like, did you live in this room? Did you but like that didn't like it?
00:27:58
Speaker
when we asked like if they died there they tended to disappear so they'd be like like a few times we were like asking that question and we're like maybe we should stop asking that question because they I think we asked it to three different ghosts and they would just like disappear so we're like note taken don't don't need to discuss death with ghosts that have probably passed in traumatic circumstances so yeah I always wondered like ghosts remember how they die, or like the older the ghost. I don't even go so ghost, do ghosts have age? But like, does it stay
00:28:32
Speaker
That's probably a discussion for another day. but yeah Yeah, it's a deep, that's a deep one. But yeah, we just found, like, when we were, it's funny, like, because we had so much activity, we were kind of were like, well, what questions do we ask now? You know, like, we just kept asking, like, are you a patient or a a nurse? And then you get the yes or or the no. And then we're like, were you happy here? Like, were you, a you know,
00:28:57
Speaker
So it's kind of, it got a bit repetitive. And then I was just like, I think it is about them wanting to just share their stories. I would move into that realm of like, and I think I did. I think that was something caught on the um footage. I was just like, do you just want to share your stories? Like, do you want to share what happened to you in this place? And and were they like, yes. like Yes. Yeah. i dan Yeah. It felt kind of like you wanted to be a little bit reverent, reverent.
00:29:26
Speaker
respectful, reverent. With the space, like i didn't I just didn't feel the need to be running around being aggressive with ghosts. Except for maybe potentially the one that messed with Nathan at the end. like when i Because we all eventually came down to the level where that all happened because everyone's like, I want to feel it. And like in my mind, I was like, don't fuck with me. like but so The story is just so we can catch people up. so In the post-investigation audio, Catherine Nathan talked about that scary incident way terrified byson yeah age from and so like where people doing that little exercise wanting to feel that? Was he the only one that got that scared out of the people that were
00:30:13
Speaker
Yeah, so he's the only one that felt that way. And then there was a few on our tour, because it was only about six of us. And then there was a few people that really were kind of looking for that experience, which I will never understand that, to be honest. But um so someone did go down there after Nathan, but he didn't feel anything like I do feel like it's intelligently missing with the.
00:30:36
Speaker
I don't know. But yeah, people didn't feel it. And then we all went down there together and we didn't feel anything gross. Yeah. It was just a moment in time that you're not going to recreate. I think it's just on the ghost's watch of who he wants to be with. She. He or she. yo or she it's here But I also found it found it funny because like we both know Nathan, and he's quite skeptical. And he has stories, we might get him on to just have some fun. so But like, even in that post,
00:31:09
Speaker
sort of audio. He's like, I kind of want to feel it again. Like he was, it was terrifying, but he was like, it's kind of, it was kind of interesting. Yeah. It's intriguing. Yeah. It definitely intrigued him. And he wasn't like, he was kind of looking for something when we were there. Like, I don't know what he thought he would get like out of it, but he was looking for something and I was like, well, you got the something. yeah I didn't get that. yeah I only got, um,
00:31:37
Speaker
I only got the, yeah, I got a really gross feeling in the woman's area. I was speaking to like, and I could tell I was speaking to one of the nice nurses there. We were told nurse carries, like the the famous ghost who's very friendly and takes care of everyone. And like, I did ask if it was nurse Kelly or Kerry. Oh no, I'm getting that wrong. Let me fact, let me check my facts. And while you check your facts, I'm gonna update everyone.
00:32:05
Speaker
on the dowsing rod fact so dowsing rods were a forked well they were used um to locate underground water minerals or other hidden or lost substances look at me i love how i'm right but i never think i am yeah so that's that and um they've been a subject of discussion and controversy for the hundreds if not thousands of years o yeahros dot com Um, so did you find the name of that ghost with the women's ward? because yeah itbo know herless nurse Yeah, nurse not nurse Kelly. So yeah, she was seen as like.
00:32:45
Speaker
ah protector essentially and I felt like in the there was a moment in a women's bathroom where we were talking to her and you can see me talking to her and Nathan's being a bit silly asking if Nathan keeping things light um seeing if she like likes to poop in the bathroom and she's like string and I'm like Nathan like trying to be such an such a square i'm just like nathan show some respect oh my fucking god but then all of a sudden you just see the life go out of these dancing rods and the lights stop so you can just tell like the light just kind of disappears and you can tell that that spirit's like left the building in terms of just
00:33:24
Speaker
because They've like had their chat with you and they're like, why? And they just evolve. And this is the time where I kind of felt this is the one time for me personally, like if I'm going to relate it to Nathan's experiences, like I felt an energy energy shift.
00:33:39
Speaker
um Yeah. And and the dowsing rods just started going really slow. And I was like, is are we still talking to the nurse and it like said yes, but really slowly. And I was like, I don't think we are. Yeah. Cause it was like, I think I should say this. Yeah. And then the dowsing rods just slowly turned down the hallway of this bathroom, like this really dank dark area of the bathroom. And I was like, you want us to go down there? And it's like, yes. And Nathan starts walking down there and I was like, fuck that. Yes.
00:34:16
Speaker
Like, what was your gut? Just like, nope. Yeah, it turned. My stomach turned. And like, I was like, I don't know what would happen. Maybe in just feeling more gross. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. But um Nathan was so blah. I was like, oh, yeah, we'll go down. I was like, no, we won't. No, no, no. We will leave this bathroom. So that was kind of my gross moment where I was like, oh, if I'm going to keep doing this, I'm never going to be like walking into the fire. Like, I don't. That's not fun for me. I'll just keep talking to the nice ones, the nice spirits.
00:34:45
Speaker
I love that. the facts about, you were saying, like, we caught up, you know, over Christmas and stuff. And you were talking about the building and just some interesting stuff about Like, well, okay, maybe that's boring. I don't know. Do you want to talk about that stuff, how they built? Yeah, like, and I think, yeah, we definitely mentioned a little bit, um, in our outro after we did the tour. Like I know we mentioned, like the money was just spent on the, on renovating the men's area. So a lot of the women would just literally die of being like frozen in the winter. Cause I had one fireplace in this huge building with like twists and turns and stuff.
00:35:29
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And the roof was so high like you're not keeping heat in so that's that just made me angry like I know inequality and all that exists but when you just hear like actual facts about it you're like bruce um but yeah I think also just knowing that they intently made this place a maze. So we were walking around it at night so we couldn't really see the scale of it. So I would love to go back during the day and do like a more formal just history tour just to see the scope of it because it's a massive property. So we didn't really understand it um in terms of scale because we're just walking
00:36:07
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into one footing, not knowing. But yeah, it can get very confusing like very quickly. so because you just you know And do that on purpose because they want the you know clinically insane to be muddled and confused if they try to escape. So I think a lot of like asylums back in the day were built that way to keep them trapped. you know the like if Almost the way you're describing it almost sounds like a prison at times.
00:36:33
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i was like yeah And just for their different purposes, was it always an asylum and did they just closed that down? Or was it yeah they change it into a hospital at one point? Or was it just purely? No, it was I'm pretty sure it was always an asylum, which is pretty wild. And I think like I would love to just do a quick Google and when it closed, when. Did.
00:37:00
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Aradale asylum close? Yeah, dude, it closed in 1993. The decommissioning process began in the early 1990s with patients transferred to other facilities, but it was the only site still open by the end of 1993. In 1997, the remaining patients were transferred to the Rosanna Forensic Center. So that's crazy. Like you go up a dirt road to go to this place. It's very ominous. Like a night driving through the dirt road. You're like, this is terrifying. So yeah, you can't really see. into it. Pardon me, sorry. man That's all right. But yeah, so it's something that like I am, I mean, it's only like a two and a half hour drive away from Melbourne. So I'm keen to go back for a daytime tour. I really want to see that. Yes, I want to see that. Let me know, because I want to see it during the daytime, because have they done anything to any of the buildings? Is there only a certain section? Because there's a huge, like I've looked at it on Google Maps, it's like a huge area.
00:38:03
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Do you know how they renovate buildings like that? Are there any like different uses in it or is it just for... Well, the ghost tours, i swear to like I swear they're just doing ghost tours and historic tours. I i don't think they're doing much else with it.
00:38:15
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Yeah. like When we rocked up, there was 20 people waiting for the tours. And I was like, this is going to be disgusting. Like 20 people all like with ghosts. I was like, gross. But 90% of the people waiting there were for the just the historic ghost tour, you know, with the theatrical yes person leading you around with the lantern. And I was like, ah not my vibe. Just give me hard, cold ghosts straight up. Let me just experience whatever the fuck it is.
00:38:47
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Exactly. So yeah, it was just something that made me go, I want to do this again with my own tools. Like I want to go in because I just don't think, and I'd love to compare it. Like I'd love to go into a place that's like, you know, notoriously haunted and see if that's the amount of activity we would get. Cause I just don't believe like that would be a good comparison with those tools to do it in another place and see how active it is. Cause it was just so active. It was just insanely active.
00:39:17
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Yeah. No, that's awesome. Yay. I love that. Like, I just love that you actually booked it and that Nathan went with you and that maybe his mind frame has been, or mindset has been changed a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I think he's definitely like the door's like half a jar now yeah and he loves it. He loves, like, you know, we love the horror movies. We love everything. You know, we're the nerds that want to see a cemetery when we're traveling.
00:39:44
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that stuff. So, you know, he's always going to be into a ghost tour if it's um enchanting enough. You know what I mean? I definitely remember Um, like in terms of future potential ghost town and skill places in Perth, I've just been like remembering how you and I went to Woodman Point. Yes. Oh my God. That was weird. I'm like keeping my eyes peeled because there's someone that does run them, but there's no dates for this year yet. So I'm just keeping my eye on that and we'll see if that happens. Yeah, that would be a cool one. I'm just going to definitely, um,
00:40:23
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eBay, some dowsing rods, and I'll report back maybe in another episode if if they're working in my house. like this um What else though? Is there anything? I think that kind of covers my main mind boggly moments. Dowsing rods, check. Nathan being spooked. Check. Any other weird moments for you? Because I like hearing like.
00:40:43
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ah kid Like I really liked hearing how you didn't want to go down that hallway because you just felt it was gross. Like were there any other moments? this is Oh, I will share one story that's not mine, but it's from a guy that was on the tour and it kind of links back to a story me and you have had of simulate like feelings, but he so.
00:41:05
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And it resonated with me just because I felt this way before. So when I tell this story, I don't know, a lot of people could just be like, cool story, bro. But we were told to keep together quite tightly as we were walking from building to building because, you know, you're twisting and you're turning and you're going through parks. And because you're kind of just looking to the guide, you're not really, and it's too dark to see where you are. If you were to like kind of get distracted,
00:41:30
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and look somewhere and then all of a sudden they everyone's turned around a corner, you would be a little bit like, oh, where am I supposed to go? It can get a little bit disorientating, I guess, like at night. So um we were all walking from, I think it was the men's ward, we were walking towards the women's ward.
00:41:48
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It was a little bit of an outdoor journey, you know, spotting possums and stuff. And, um, a couple behind us kind of like jog up, but he's really out of breath. And I'm like, Oh, you're right. He's like, Oh, I'm just a bit, I don't know. Like, I'm just a bit shaken. Like, like I was right. Like it was quite an ochre.
00:42:09
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I was right behind you guys, but then I wasn't. And then I couldn't like, I kind of just started freaking out. Cause I was like, where are you? Like, so he got really disorientated, but he was nowhere near far away enough for us to, for him to get that feeling. And he wasn't someone that was like scared. Like he he's quite interested in the paranormal. He like kind of loves this stuff. And he's, he wasn't someone initially that came across as, um,
00:42:34
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someone that was going to get spooked easily essentially um and for him to kind of get really shaken up in like a minimal amount of time I was like that's weird like you know and yeah sometimes it's like do ghosts mess with your orientation do they kind of mess with your sense of direction yes you know there's high strangeness stories around that kind of thing that we've read up on and I know we've had a weird moment in a like a national park where it was clearly we knew how to get home but for some reason you don't get to go another story we lost yeah um please that's like maybe the only other story that I personally like thought was a bit of a thing everyone else kind of brushed it off but I was like no yeah man yeah yeah yeah like he wouldn't Yeah, you can tell when people are bullshitting, I suppose. but Yeah, like for him to be visibly shaken of just like being a few steps away from us and then like jogging like he had to run to get to us. Yeah, it just seemed like something kind of for a hot minute there just like shook his head or something and he wasn't sure where he was at. So I kind of found that a bit.
00:43:38
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intriguing. that a story So I believe in ghost hunting, guys, it's a thing.
Reflections on the Tour and Future Ventures
00:43:44
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And I will do more of it. I'm keen. I just need I need to experience something like that. I think if the fact that you found a ghost tour that just let you do your own thing and they didn't sort of roll like where you went is really cool.
00:43:58
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It kind of makes me just want to, like I said, like get my own tools and go to places by myself and sort it out. Like an notoriously haunted hotel and then just creep around at 2 AM with my dowsing rods and see if I pick anything up. I don't know. Yeah, that sounds good. I'll join you, Catherine. How about that? Yes, and then we'll do another ah spooky Gersion podcast episode. Sounds good speaking, Gersion. That's good. Well, that's a good wrap up, I reckon. i I'm trying to think if there were any other questions I had. I don't know. If you could rate the experience out of 10, like one being shit and 10 being like,
00:44:44
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you know, the opposite of shit. A 10 for sure, like the opposite of shit. Like i i had I went in with no expectations thinking, oh, I might get a blinking light for three hours. I might get one or two blinks of a light. But no, it was like constant flow of conversations for three hours. So you can't ask for any more ghost activity than that. So yeah, it became so normal.
00:45:08
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like that's how much activity we've got I was like oh I just had some good banter with ghosts for three hours yeah yeah 10 out of 10 and I wish yeah I hope there'd be like more of that sort of type of investigation investigation investigating out there but I just don't think there is I think it's a very unique um tour that they give check it out guys do it for yourself yeah do it man recommend it I'm sure you can just google arrow at ghost tours and it'll come up and um good yeah um all right well good chats yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and um we'll edit this one quite well we will because there's a lot of
00:45:56
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Contemplative silence, but um'm I'm good at that. I'll just chop it all up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's good. If anything, maybe I've, um, over explained the same thing too many times. You're good. I'll edit all that. Don't worry.
00:46:12
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Um, sorry guys, we had a lot of technical difficulties today and we're so proud of ourselves for getting through it. Crazy Teckers Diffie Kiltes. Yes. Took us about five logins to start recording and it's taken us about three pause and plays to just do our fucking things. Silly. Sunday sillies. What are you going to do? But really cool. Just hear some extra stuff outside of like what you shared originally and Um, yeah, we'll keep sharing some ghost stories. Sounds good. And, uh, we'll get back to the usual, uh, episodic 101s of weird paranormal stuff next time, guys. You sure will. All right. Enjoy whatever you're doing. Bye.
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