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SE1: EP1 BIGFOOT
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We delve into all things bigfoot. Are they earth bound or are they interdimensional? Katherine provides all the legit facts to debunk while also seeking the truth.
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Introduction to 'Twintrested' and Bigfoot
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello. Hi everyone. Welcome to Twintrested. Welcome to episode one of Twintrested, the Bigfoot episode. Pretty exciting for Catherine and I to be talking about Bigfoot for like a full length of time.
00:00:17
Speaker
And today we thought we'd introduce everyone to Bigfoot. We assume that you've heard about Bigfoot and most of the people would kind of roll their eyes and be like, yeah, whatever, Bigfoot, what, what is that?
Challenging Bigfoot Skepticism
00:00:35
Speaker
Who fucking cares about that big oaf? You know what I mean? Anyway. But it's true. Like it's one of the more hard to believe supernatural things out there. It really is. That's why we want to shed some light on him because we want to give Bigfoot a voice because we feel he's been treated unkindly. but or she He or she. He or she. All of them. All of them. All the foots. All the foots. Yeah, we feel like Bigfoot gets a bad rap, to be honest. um And Catherine has done some due diligence, some research. Barely. Barely. But I've done a bit.
00:01:16
Speaker
Yes. Well, I guess so part of the reason we're doing this podcast, guys, is because Katherine and I have always been interested in the paranormal and weird, wonderful, all the weird stuff. But we've never really sat down and dug deeper into these topics, just surface level information, or we just consume a lot of content about it, I should say. We do listen to a lot of big podcasts. Yeah, I was going to say we do a lot of investigating. We just don't we don't discuss it.
00:01:45
Speaker
Like we know that we love it and stuff, but we don't openly like have some banter about what we find or yeah, it's weird. Yeah. And we we want to do more of that. We want to do more of that, especially because sometimes I'm sure, I don't know you about you, Catherine, but sometimes I won't go deep just in a group, like we'll in a WhatsApp chat with you because I'm like, is Catherine going to think I'm crazy? And I, or like, is Catherine in the mood for this kind of depth of Bigfoot talk right now? So we want a Bigfoot dump on WhatsApp.
00:02:15
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So that's what we're going to explore
Episode Structure and Bigfoot Basics
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today. We're going to talk about Bigfoot. um We're going to talk about all the different versions and stories that people have around what Bigfoot is. And then you have to stay to the end of the episode because that's our favorite little corner. It's our spooky corner. And it's where we share our real life stories. So Catherine is going to share a story, a really interesting story, and we want your ah take on it maybe. But I'm interested to hear that again, because I've never I've never heard it with the knowledge I have now, if that makes sense. And I've never thought of it linking to Bigfoot, but now I'm kind of starting to think maybe, maybe, maybe, but yeah, we'll share that later. Yeah. So, um, and another reminder, if you want to know a bit more about why we started this podcast, listen to episode one or the pilot episode.
00:03:11
Speaker
Yeah, our point five episode. Yeah. All right, Catherine, introduction is over. like Tell me what you found about Bigfoot, because I'm intrigued. So it's funny, like you were saying, we we ingest a lot of this information. So I was like, OK, let's get on the Internet. And we all know I'm great at research and Googling. um slide But yeah, I just Googled Bigfoot and you know, our mate Wikipedia shows the goods.
00:03:40
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um So I started there. It's funny because I feel like we could just kind of spit ball what we know. But I will spit out some facts for like the Bigfoot 101 I feel. So we know that Bigfoot is said to be this gigantic gorilla ape-like man.
00:04:02
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or woman, um that walks around mainly like forests areas. um He's got many names like the Yeti, Sasquatch, Yowie I think? Yeah, would straight would our version be Yowie? Are they completely the same? is he I feel like maybe the Yowie's a smaller hairy man thing. That's another rabbit hole. Maybe we separate that.
00:04:27
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um yeah So he's got a lot of names um and yeah known just to be generally the sightings are like in you know dense forest areas by hunters or you know people out on their walks just stumbling across this big Scary. Yeah, scary. And that's the thing. People generally have fear when they see it because it's so otherworldly, like your brain can barely comprehend what you're seeing. um And one of my favorite facts I found out about Bigfoot is that there's like,
00:05:01
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the cryptozoology world, which is like people, cryptozoology is the people that study like the supernatural kind of folklore of these creatures, like all the creatures that we can't, we don't have scientific proof that they exist.
Learning About Bigfoot
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Yeah.
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yeah um Yeah, it's interesting, interesting world, and they actually have given Bigfoot the scientific name in inverted commas, because I don't know if I can use the word scientific when talking about Bigfoot, but they've given him a name of Gigantopithecus.
00:05:41
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giant to Gigantopithecus.
00:05:47
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Gigantopithecus, I believe. I have left out an I when I've written it down, Erin. We'll put it in the show notes for you guys. Wrong words, am I right? Yeah, so that speaks for itself. I found that quite amusing. I don't know if that's right. But it's interesting that, so you do cryptozoologists, and sorry, I'm like,
00:06:12
Speaker
going on a turtle tangent. I also love, like, guys, we we're beginners. There's a reason this is called, like, you're twin interested, you're paranormal sidekicks, because we're learning.
00:06:24
Speaker
We're learning everything kind of from scratch. yeah So if you're looking for a podcast that knows their shit and is like, I've been working in the Bigfoot world for 20 years, probably not your podcast. Maybe down the track we'll get those people on our podcast and learn a bit from them, but we are just kind of, we're diving in a bit blind.
00:06:43
Speaker
Yeah, we're going in blind and we're learning because I'm sure some of you don't know anything about this shit either. So yeah, but the point I wanted to say was like cryptozoologists, they study um animals scientifically that they believe exist on this planet, but haven't been fully like like Are they wanting these animals to be classified as a real animal? I guess, yeah. It's like they've got the abundant knowledge of the theories and the and the case studies. I guess that's a good way to put it. They've they've done a lot of um research in terms of ah sightings and they talk to a bunch of people about these sightings and then they gather information that, you know,
00:07:31
Speaker
In terms of Bigfoot being seen by so many people around the world, why? like Why are there hundreds and thousands of people, or maybe tens of thousands, I don't know, seeing it and also relaying the same sort of evidence? like For instance, Bigfoot sightings.
00:07:48
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Yeah, so when when there's some um instances of sightings and people re giving their read accounts and their story restoring folks worry so get better at work retelling their stories. yeah um a lot A lot of the Bigfoot sightings are linked with like a stench, like a quite a um pungent smell, like wet dog smell. And as we get deeper and deeper into this world, you'll find that that smell is kind of linked to a lot of paranormal um sightings. So that's always very interesting to me that
00:08:28
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people were like, okay, so I didn't see Bigfoot, but this smell was just really overpowering. And then I saw him. So I find that kind of cool. You just reminded me of, you're going to share your story and then I'll have to share my story about potential. In New Zealand. Yeah. Yes, definitely. Because that's something that people, yeah, I'll touch on that. because i mean So then they do, like some people will even see orbs of light.
00:08:55
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So when we're seeing like orbs of light, that's kind of supernatural, right? So yeah ah there's like two types of parties when it comes to
Bigfoot Theories and Sightings
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Bigfoot. People that believe it is of this world, of the earth, and it's like a descendant from our ancestors and we split off and Bigfoot has just been part of our life, but it's a recluse kind of animal and hides really well.
00:09:19
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And then there's this other side that people literally think it's interdimensional and is not of this plane at all. And um there's been sightings to confirm that people will see, you know, when you see a huge creature and then all of a sudden you turn around and it's completely disappeared and you just know it can't do that. kind of Yeah. And so because you would hear it run away.
00:09:43
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yeah And guys, you know, not to add to the spooky level, but just when we start really talking about Bigfoot, our computers are glitching. I don't know about you, Catherine, but like your screen. That is interesting. That's really interesting. we Yeah, and we've done about 15 minutes of pre-recording and we didn't have any issues, did we? So we did out on us. our so us yeah ah So Bigfoot energy or paranormal energy, can you chill and just let us record? Yeah, thank you. Sorry, I interrupted you, but I'm really interested in this. No, I was on like a really heavy like enthusiastic rant just a about.
00:10:23
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interdimensional beings. um So because I find that the craziest thing and I feel like it divides a lot of Bigfoot enthusiasts. I think a lot of people like get out of town.
00:10:36
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interdimensional. So people almost, the the people who are of the train of thought that Bigfoot is a paranormal experience are probably pretty, it's like political parties. They're pretty like, I can't believe you would think that this thing exists on earth. And then the people that think it exists on earth are like, I can't believe you think that this thing's paranormal. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be interesting to see.
00:11:04
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or hear from people that like, yeah, into like the crypto world, like the creatures, but don't necessarily believe in like ghosts or the supernatural. Like are there people that just will be like, well, I saw a Bigfoot, but I do not believe in ghosts. Or do you reckon that would, like them seeing Bigfoot would make them question reality? You know what I mean? So it's an interesting one to start on. Cause I don't know if like,
00:11:31
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a skeptic that walked into seeing a Bigfoot would be like, oh, my whole thought on the world and how it functioned, you know, it's it's like when people see big cats out in the wild, some people are just like, oh, there's a big cat and that exists and we haven't given it a scientific name yet. It's just, yeah. And i speaking of, look, side tangent, I've seen a big cat. Yeah, Aaron can confirm those jaguars or whatever they are. Yeah, just the Australian as well.
00:11:58
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a cougar in Bremer Bay in WA, I probably saw one. Um, but it didn't change. I didn't go, whoa, my world's changed. I was like, there's a cougar. There's obviously someone who's had a pet cougar. Well, there's that story about the circus ages ago that animals, do you know about that?
00:12:15
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No, that's an episode for another day and I'll do a little half section on big. Yeah. There's a whole thing about where these big cats and pumas in Australia have come from, but I don't feel that they're paranormal, but I would be interested to know if some, if there's a camp in the big cat be paranormal or if they're just big. Yeah. That's kind of cool. What's kind of cool to think about?
00:12:40
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Whereas Bigfoot, I don't know, like very far fetched from a from a big cat. It's like not in the same same world. I'm just trying to think. um Yeah, just some other like touch points on the whole like interdimensional question mark thing is people also experiencing that they make little to no noise, so they see them. They're actually not hearing anything linked to what they're seeing, which is kind of... That's really weird. I always thought there would be... Because don't people also talk about they hear knocking?
00:13:14
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Yeah, like tree knocking is how they communicate guys. Um, it'd be cool if we found some sound bites of Bigfoot. I wonder if I can find that on Google. Yes, fine. Have a look. but um like sorry what are you saying So you're saying that if someone, like you're saying that there's reports of people who have faced a face with Bigfoot.
00:13:33
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but they they found it weird that there was no noise coming from the animal. Is that what you mean? Yes, even appearing close to witnesses. So that's something that I found on Bigfoot.net.
00:13:53
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BFRO.net. Right. So you've eies on got some good yeah research. Yeah, I'll definitely, you know, put these websites up for you to dig a hole with. And then I found this really cool article. National Geographic had an article, but it was behind a paywall so I couldn't get to it.
00:14:11
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Yeah. But the headline was. We need a twin trusted budget. I think we do. Honestly, I was like, National Geographic have a Bigfoot. That's cool. And the headline was forensic expert says Bigfoot is real. So isn't that clickbait? So we might I don't know, man, we might have to pay. What is it? What's this? Two bucks or something? Yeah, tried to get into that and then I failed. And that's where my research stopped, guys, because I'm pretty thorough. I think I'll get yeah get used to digging a bit deeper on this stuff. It's just to talk about. Yeah. That's cool. Okay. So you've brought some interesting things to the table. i think
00:14:52
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We've, so Catherine and I have listened to, one of our favorite podcasts for a while was, is, is Yowie Central. yeah I really like that, that podcast because, and I would suggest anyone who hasn't listened to, if anyone's curious about people's actual experiences with podcasts, with podcasts. Well, yeah. Like encounters, actual encounters. Yowies, let's not say Bigfoot, remember? We don't know if they're in the same.
00:15:22
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I don't know. Well, I don't know. So this is based on it. But the thing is, it's called Yowie Central and they they refer to it as Bigfoot. Yeah, they say Yowie Central for the latest on Yowie slash Bigfoot research in Australia and around the world. But um Sarah is Sarah Bignell is the one who um narates and and she's the she's the host. She does a really good job. She's so great and she um yeah just gets people people on the phone and they just tell their stories with no judgment and it's great. There's some creepy ones.
00:15:56
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Yeah. I would say that that's like, I would say I got into the whole listening to stories about Bigfoot just out of pure entertainment. That was my initial yeah thing. Um, and then I think the more stories I listened to, the more I was like, what the hell? Like I can't, like this has to be a thing. It was kind of, you're right though, like being into Bigfoot, I just love sometimes gonna just love the cheesiness around.
00:16:22
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some of the certain supernatural topics. And Bigfoot is definitely something that I'm like, I love the theory and the idea around him. Do I believe it? I don't know. You know, like it's one of the more far fetched things. But you're right. The more I started listening to these stories, I became a believer. I became a believer too. big big I'm trying to think of a pun. Yeah, a nice pun.
00:16:47
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A big believer. A big believer. Yeah, I just was like, and I will admit there are some people telling stories where I'm like, you were high, you were on LSD. Yes, unfortunately. Unfortunately, you know, there's going to be people who are who do that. And, you know, they still had an experience. um But that's, but that kind of brings me back to this, I think we need to talk about this whole paranormal aspect of being... Yes. Oh my god, yes. Let Steve dive. Because that's the more interesting thing. Like, yeah, he can hear the old ape walking around. Cool story. Bro. But yeah, this idea that he's this interdimensional being is what yeah fascinates me. And I don't know when I started to think that that was more plausible than a real life animal. Yeah, but it sounds insane. It's true. It's so true.
00:17:34
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Yeah, I think the more I think it's when you start hearing all the cases where there's all this other weird shit linked like the no noise or him just disappearing behind a tree that you know It's bigger than that tree, so it's just um a bit mind boggling. It's weird. And then like um one of the really interesting stories that you hear every now and then, especially in America, um where I think most of the Bigfoot stuff happens, to be honest,
00:18:06
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So i I think we do need to do an episode on Yowies because I'm curious about the difference in folklore with that. but Can I just um butt in with a fun fact about the America sightings?
Geographical Distribution and Cultural Names
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Again, we can thank bigfoot dot.net.
00:18:24
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QCNews dot.com um what for their Bigfoot sightings. Which states have the most Bigfoot sightings? They did an article on, so thank you QCNews dot.com. um But Washington weirdly has has the most credible sightings.
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um
00:18:46
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Other states with significant Bigfoot sightings. I'm just trying to show you that. i Yeah, but like what makes a credible sighting? Exactly. And this is why I, guys, I'm not going to lie, I find some of these articles I have to giggle a little bit because it's like when we're using the word scientific and credible, I'm like, maybe are we being biased and like only give incredible sightings to like a scientist or like a a well-known authority figure that wouldn't have, you know, that's where I see the word credible coming from. Yeah. And they're like, so Mr. Joe over here who, you know, doesn't do anything about anything. He's just like, oh yeah, I saw one. And they're like, I'm incredible. Oh, who are you, Joe? Exactly. Like not credible. Um, yeah. So California has 461. Is this in a year? I don't know. 461.
00:19:38
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Yeah. But like, is this within a year or you know what I mean? Like 708 of all time. and That can't be right. Florida has 338, Ohio has 318 and Illinois has 302. So um maybe they're talking about credible sightings that have been documented and like they're happy to say like, yeah, that many that have been reported. Think about this as well. Maybe there's like an institution that actually gets reported to.
00:20:08
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And there's people that call up all the time with like podcasts and stuff, but they're not necessarily going to ring a research center and say, Hey, I saw this. So it's not documented. Does that make sense? So that's probably, yeah, no, yeah, that makes sense. Maybe so strange. Anyway, I'm sorry. I held interjected and you, you were talking about America. I was just saying how it's fascinating that it's a lot of, a lot of the Bigfoot sightings are in America. And, but even in America, there's like Florida calls it the skunk ape.
00:20:38
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And like, why? Do you know what I mean? Like what, is that just because that was colloquially, I don't know what they called it, but it's still Bigfoot. So that's interesting.
00:20:51
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Like the Yeti you know is more in the snowy regions, right? Because he's got a whiter coat and all that sort of stuff. so this is And this is the interesting thing too about this whole paranormal side. Because now I'm flipping back and I'm like, well, if a Yeti has white fur, it's adapted to that environment. So for parry if it was paranormal and interdimensional, is it just gonna would it not just pop up And be like, hey, I just, or is it like being smart and blending in with where it needs to be? True, because it can shape shift or whatever. I'm a devil's advocate there. But just going back on that research that I found, I just wanted to let you know that
00:21:37
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The credible sightings are collated by um people that work for Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization.
00:21:48
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um And they're the ones that collect the data. Cool. And and that answers that. So that's why there's those numbers. Yeah. Just trying to see if there was anything linked to like Yeah, there's just like, there's Texas, 253, Missouri, 166,
00:22:11
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um Kentucky, 115, New York, New York, 120. Wow. Is there greenery in New York? Look at me and Australian just being like, is there anything other than buildings? Well, I mean, New York City, like Manhattan, concrete jungle, but, you know, New York State. Yeah, I know. I'm just being a bit... Oh, sorry. um um
00:22:34
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Bring it back. Bring it back to Bigfoot. So we've, we've just touched on the idea that there's two trains of thought. There's the real life. There's interdimensional. I want to hear your thoughts on what you think Bigfoot is.
Evolving Beliefs and Personal Experiences
00:22:53
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Okay.
00:22:54
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okay I am like you. I think, so I honestly did think when I first dipped my toes into the Bigfoot world, I was like, wow, like he's, he's totally just like this ape thing hanging around.
00:23:11
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um And we just can't get a we just can't grab him. We just can't find this this thing in the woods because it's way too sneaky for us, right? but That's where my head went. And then you deep dive. You go down rabbit holes and encounters.
00:23:27
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And um definitely, I think you're right, Yowie Central stories and stuff. And you're like, yeah, there's something else going on here with this many people saying this. And, you know, they're not all telling the same story. It's all different in a way, but it's just those key things of the disappearing really quickly.
00:23:45
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the the no noise associated, a really big smell. um Feelings, that the there's um feelings and what's the other phenomenon around it? when you When you walk into a forest and everything goes like very quiet, like you can't hear insects or birds. yes i And then you're like,
00:24:05
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It's like something you yeah you're hearing the like calm before the storm essentially before you see something and I find that quite an interesting phenomena ah surrounded. So that's kind of my summary I definitely think.
00:24:18
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with the With the encounters people have had, and maybe with my own that I'll share, it seems a little bit ah parallel universalized. I agree. They're hanging out somewhere else and popping into our world. yep yeah i That's a fun area for me. I agree. Well, yeah, as you said, I think we shared similar views. So we're going to take a quick break and then when we're back, Catherine's going to dive into her real life story. Um, and then I can only count. Yeah, it's all right. Just let me fucking talk. And then, um, it's so good. And then when I talk so much, I'm just going to start that again.
00:25:11
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All right, so we're just going to take a quick break. And when we get back, Katherine's going to share her encounter of something. I'll share my little encounter and then I did do some pondering on Bigfoot because I knew you were going away to research. And I was like, hmm, I'm not going to do any research, but I'm just going to sit in thought and feel into some theories around Bigfoot and why, if we do believe it's interventional, why would it be coming to earth and that kind of thing? so That'd be fun. All right. That's coming after the break. funny and We'll no just will be back. Two seconds.
00:26:09
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You said you were gonna introduce. Oh yeah!
00:26:15
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Sorry about that. Hey, everyone. So we're back. I love that I'm just looking at you. Staring at me. Oh my God. Like, when are you going to start talking? Telling me what to do when they're just being like- Oh, I forgot so quickly.
00:26:33
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Okay. What would you like to tell me? back and Catherine is going to tell us her really weird story from, I'll tell, I'll let her just tell it all, but it was, it's a weird one. So Catherine, tell us your story. Yeah. So I don't,
00:26:50
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You know, when we continue to share these stories, guaranteed I won't be telling a lot because I haven't experienced a lot. That's why this one's pretty crazy to me. um So we were in America traveling, having the best time and me and Erin met up with our partners on the last stint and we ended up heading to the Grand Canyon.
00:27:15
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and staying out there like in a random motel for what, like two nights, three nights? Two nights, I think. Yeah. And it was great because we were just in the middle of the desert on the on the dirt track. And we'd spent you know an afternoon watching the sunset in Grand Canyon. And it was that season with all the thunderstorms in America. They follow you everywhere around the desert. And it's really beautiful. So the sun was setting. We had some stormy lightning stuff going on.
00:27:43
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And we were driving back to our accommodation and Aaron's partner was like, oh, let's just pull down this road and get some shots. Like he's a pretty good photographer. So he, you know, had the the shots in his mind and it was like this amazing like forest, big trees. um So we're driving down this little road, like fairly like um do not end it. Looking back, i'm like there was it was just like a random nondescript road that probably now quite obviously a driveway to a property.
00:28:16
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Yeah and I think further down the road if we were to keep going would have been some more accommodation like cottages or something that's the vibe I was getting but we kind of stopped halfway down um just in the middle of the road it was really quiet like there wasn't traffic or anything and we just we all got out and um what just kind of walked our separate ways off the ah the road like not too far into the woods or anything um Do you call the boys when you're in Grand Canyon? Yeah, I don't know. There was a lot of vegetation there. So like the property, I feel like the property probably planted that vegetation because everything's very scrubland, low lying. But around this property, there was some like decent sized trees, but they were kind of around the property. And then as you saw further down the vista, it would just mellow out. Yeah, it was like clearing out for accommodation.
00:29:10
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Anyway so we were just walking around like sunsetting taking photos of the trees and everyone has kind of gone forward um like in front of the car and taking photos that way and I've gone like kind of in line with the car I've kind of just gone straight up to like the bollards because there were bollards keep like that had like a um ah chain saying keep out Sorry, I feel like, Katherine, you're getting quite flustered telling this story. Yeah. Because it kind of makes me nervous retelling it. I always, it's weird. I get a little bit flustered when I tell this story because it just, I feel like I really have to set it up because it doesn't feel real to me either. Yeah, yeah, I totally know. aing Face is going a bit red. um But just, you know, take us through it. So you went to the bollards and there was a chain gate.
00:29:59
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Yeah, there was a chain gate that said, ah like, private property keep out. And it wasn't a huge, like, I could, I literally could have, if I wasn't the nerd that I am that likes to play by the rules, I could have like hopped over that and gone into the the shrubbery and taken photos. but I was like, okay, I'll um just not go closer. So I was standing pretty much at that line, taking photos out.
00:30:23
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And I heard like, you know, you you hear like rummaging of like little critters in shrubs or whatever. So I'm hearing that and I'm like, oh, I wonder like what creature that could be. You know, we've seen.
00:30:35
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moose and all sorts of animals in this Americana trip. And, um, so I'm kind of standing there really listening hard to just wait and see something reveal itself essentially. And nothing's coming of it, but I'm sitting there and I'm still, I'm still listening and it's getting closer at this point. Yeah, I know. I literally, like at this point I wasn't even taking, um, photos. I was just kind of like.
00:31:04
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like sitting there and waiting. And then I heard it get closer. And this is where it got weird for me. I am flustered, aren't I? Like I could hear footsteps at this point. So it didn't, it stopped sounding like animalish and it started sounding like humanoidy, like footsteps on like gravel, cause it was very gravelly. So the floor of this kind of,
00:31:30
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it It was rubble and um crushed stone. Crushed orange stone. Yes, that's right. So it's, you know, you know, when people, the sound that makes, especially because it was raining, like it was quite, um yeah, quite loud, like wet. There you go. There's a noise. There's a sound bite for you. So I'm hearing in that.
00:31:55
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Um, anyway, so i want if I want to just note that yes we all weren't moving. Like I was, more and m the reason I'm interjecting is because I find this so strange that when you're, you were there listening, I didn't know where you were. Mike was definitely just standing, taking a photo down the driveway and then getting the trees. And Nathan was just standing next to Mike. And I was looking at the i was house and I remember, I don't know why I remember this so vividly, but.
00:32:26
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And I'll probably have to talk this talk about this in another episode, but I was sort of in my mind's eye. I was like, is there anyone in this property? Like this is, I don't know if I've told you this before, Gavin, but I was mentally putting out. Is there anyone around here? I just felt like something was around and I was like, you can come. Anyway, that's what I was doing. So I wasn't walking around. Nathan wasn't walking around.
00:32:50
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Michael. Yeah, everyone's just standing in their spot um further out from the car. And I was specifically like in line with like the passengers side, just like, so I hadn't gone very far from the cook the car at all, but everyone else had. And that's the thing. Erin's channeling shit in her mind. And I'm sitting here hearing something. So it literally eventually gets to the point where I kid you not,
00:33:17
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Um, I'm so bad with estimating. I want to say it it felt like it was a meter out and I heard these, like, it's weird when I say a heard because I can't see anything, but it sounded like giant footsteps sounded like quite a large person.
00:33:35
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stepping towards me and it was like like big like two steps forward kind of thing so I heard that about a meter out and that's when I was like I wasn't even breathing at that point and I was staring out and then the last two footsteps I hear so remember I'm like where the chain is like essentially like right up there the last two steps were right, right beyond like over the chain. Like directly on the other side. Right in front of me. like And it was just like, here we go again.
00:34:14
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boy And I shat my pants, yeah but not literally, but I was just like, I looked and the weirdest thing in my reaction was to look up. Like it's like something was standing right up to me. And I felt the need to like, I was like, like it was so weird. And I just felt.
00:34:32
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You know, when you can't explain, I don't know, can you, do you, have you ever had this feeling? When you hear this, like, that's the thing that makes it feel, is like the fact that you felt such an energy, because I've never experienced anything like that. The adrenaline. Yeah. It's the adrenaline of like, what is this? I'm hearing something that I should be seeing. And fair enough, if I kept hearing it from a distance, I'd be like, oh, there's the,
00:34:56
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Mules I'll never see you know in like Grand Canyon or you know like oh there's something out there and the Cody or something I never saw it but like it was the noise these footsteps were right in front anyway so I just like yelled out to everyone like, we should go, we should go. And then everyone's trying to explain it away. Like I remember them being like, Oh, it could just be like the rain. I remember Nathan saying it's the rain on the leaves and you're like, this is the noise and cat. Like I'll just explain to people. Cause you all probably don't remember cause you were in your i'm in a state. ah tizzy Like I've never seen Catherine like that.
00:35:32
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yeah I've never seen her so frazzled by something. i'm I believed you. I was like, yeah, that's weird. Nathan and Mike, not so much, but yeah you kept like being like this, like the two steps and you kept reenacting the two steps. And I was like, that's fucking weird. And you were just like spun out.
00:35:54
Speaker
Yeah, like it's a short story, but I can't comprehend it. And it just links to, you know, if we're thinking if Bigfoot is interdimensional, like I kept thinking, so one thing I noticed before we drove into this driveway is it did say Native American land, like it was some, some um lodge name attached to it, but it was like Native American land. Like that was quite, it and so I was like, maybe it was like the spirit of a Native American and, you know, quite a tall man. But then I was like, if Bigfoot's interdimensional and I'm looking up, maybe it was a Bigfoot. Yeah. and I don't know. I wonder, did you feel like it was telling you to back up?
00:36:33
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ah Yes, and that that was the thing. That's the feeling. It didn't feel friendly. It didn't feel like it was out to get me. But you know, there was that keep outside like private. property I never went over that line. But it felt like it like a double like, yeah, definitely just stay away. Stay on your side. Kind of do not step over this line. It was just weird like it and it was it was a creeper like it was it wasn't quick like this all happened within I mean maybe you know how things feel longer when you're experiencing them but maybe it was like a so a three to four minute ordeal of me kind of just sitting there listening because it did start from quite far away and then all of a sudden there were yeah
00:37:13
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and law Yeah. It's and um's weird. It's so weird. yeah It's a cool story because I haven't felt or seen a lot. And that really for me, who's someone like, you know, I've loved to the paranormal and all this stuff like throughout.
00:37:29
Speaker
my life not seeing anything and now I've seen this and not seen anything but heard something that I can't explain. Yeah I love that story because I think it's fully real whether it's a Bigfoot or not I don't know but I i kind of this idea this kind of doves dovetails into what I oh your theory my theories that I've been contemplating sitting and contemplating yes but I do feel like um
00:37:59
Speaker
They're kind of these protectors. I don't see Bigfoot as a scary creature. And it's interesting because a lot of the Yowie stories, sorry, when I say Yowie stories, when I've listened to stories on Yowie Central or any other Bigfoot podcast, a lot of the people who have terrifying encounters with them are there on a like a hunting trip or um They've got guns with them and they're just doing their hunting. Not to say that, you know, hunting's bad or whatever, each to their own. Um, but I've found that that's a correlation between the fearful energy and if they're paranormal and they can emit feeling.
00:38:47
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then why, you know, like, isn't it funny how some people are like, I didn't feel scared by it, buth blah, blah, blah. But then there are some instances of people just going about their day like I remember hearing a story about.
00:38:59
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someone being on a horse in the Blue Mountains saying that they saw something that looked like a Bigfoot. But they were like, the whole encounter was terrifying um and creepy because it was like running alongside them. So it was keeping up with this horse.
00:39:18
Speaker
And she smelt the smell like the creepy gross smell. And I think, oh, but that's another interesting point. So there was something involved in that story. When the Bigfoot was being all scary, they'd just seen a baby Bigfoot. So I think that's also a factor into if they're aggressive, it might be because one of the young kids. Yeah.
00:39:45
Speaker
So maybe the young kid is around, so some people are like, I didn't do anything, but maybe they're unaware that there's like a young Bigfoot around and so that gets the protected. So yeah, but I do feel like they're almost like trying to, they bring a message of stewardship of the land.
00:40:04
Speaker
Protectors? Is that what you mean by stewardship? Yeah, like if you're a steward of the the land, you're someone who cares deeply about Earth's resources and we have finite resources and maybe they're kind of depending to be like, you humans need to Like take care of your bloody trees and shit. Get your shit together humans. But I have heard people leave talk about this theory before and that kind of resonates with me. Um, but then again, there's just so much unknown. It's like, why are they visiting? Why are there like sometimes stories of mother Bigfoot with their baby Bigfoot? Like why are they visiting? I don't know.
00:40:48
Speaker
Yeah. And that is something, um, I forgot to mention my research. I think you, I think we've talked about this before, but like there are quite a lot of sightings of females with their young, like, I don't want to say more so than the male partner, but like.
00:41:06
Speaker
are they like why the hunters and gatherers of the family unit like true true okay and it is funny that the sightings the people that see the sightings like make a point to be like this was a female it had yes like blah blah blah and this was uh this and they they know if it seems like a juvenile because it was like smaller um Yeah that's a really interesting point I've just had like a brain thought because one of my theories and it's not just my theory so this is just something that I'm agreeing with that I've heard like people sort of mention but what if they're coming down to earth because me and Catherine we're just letting you know we think they're interdimensional beings. Take that as you will. Let's remind people what our theories are on it. They are not they are not they're not like fully descendants of whatever. Anyway, they they pop in and out. So what if it's like the
00:42:03
Speaker
male Bigfoot are coming down and they're gathering resources for wherever the hell they're going. So it's like Bigfoot's popping in being like, yep, earth is great. We love this wood or we love this rock.
00:42:18
Speaker
We're gonna take it back with us to wherever the hell they're from. And then, yeah, maybe they have to stay for a few days and that's why there's mothers with children because they're yeah hunter-gatherers and they have to supply food and nourishment for the other folks that are like doing the work. They're like, well, someone's got to feed these these troops.
00:42:42
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And then bringing in another fun fact that I forgot to mention is um that will so circle into your story that we can probably end on your story, I reckon. but like they if if that's the case then there are um thoughts on ah dwellings that people come across so they come across these like clearings that just can't be man-made or if they were man-made why would a man make them you know like the the way the trees are bent um yeah just like some yeah it'd be cool to find some photos But yeah, the way the trees are bent, the way like you're just in the middle of dense forestry and things are just like cleared out of this space. They look like little nests. Almost. Yeah, almost like a nest on the ground. And that would kind of solidify that idea that like, yeah, they they nest for maybe a few days at a time and then they're like going through their beams of light into yeah back into Bigfoot town. Yeah, fascinating.
00:43:38
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So that leads me into this other weird experience. Again, I'm including it in this Bigfoot episode because it seems to fit things that I've heard other people say. I didn't think anything of this story for years. I was just, I literally didn't think anything of it. I was like, whatever, just a nature walk gone weird. But then when I started listening to Bigfoot stories on other people's podcasts. Yeah. What's that other podcast that we listened to?
00:44:08
Speaker
He's great. um I don't know because I haven't listened to it in ages. Is it just called Bigfoot? I'm going to search it now. You have a search. We'll link you to some of our favorite Bigfoot potties.
00:44:21
Speaker
So I was in New Zealand and my um husband was with me and we were staying in a place that was on the end, like the bottom of a ah hill.
00:44:34
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So um it was like a BMX bike track was behind our property, um but it looked like a really nice walk. So one afternoon I was like, Mike, let's just go for like a little walk into this forest area because I love walking through forests to mainly because I'm like, I want to see what birds are in there and all that kind of stuff.
00:44:55
Speaker
So Mike and I went for a walk and it's funny because when I look back, I remember being like, oh my God, there's so many amazing butterflies around. Like butterflies were going crazy, flies everywhere. This was the middle of summer in New Zealand and it was quite hot.
00:45:09
Speaker
And we kept walking and then I wanted to go into the forest. So the path led you around the outskirts of sort of stitched pine trees. um And I was like, can we just go in here? And so we went in and we started walking around and exploring and it was fine. Is there like a path? There are always a just path. So we went because they went rogue. Yeah.
00:45:30
Speaker
So like there was a path of the on the outside and then there were BMX trails deeper in the forest just because when I did research I could tell that it was a BMX sort of place for people. yeah um Anyway, so we went into this pine tree forest and so it had big pine trees and also shrubbery around. I'm getting all Anyway, getting flustered like me, now you know how it feels. I'm gonna try and slow it down. Yeah, I definitely rambled mine away. we We'll slow it down on like 0.5 seconds. There are people listening and they want to hear the story.
00:46:08
Speaker
um so Walking through it, didn't think anything of it, but for someone who'd been, we'd just been to some really nice nature areas in New Zealand and it just wasn't like that. And I was like, this is a bit boring. I remember just being like, oh, this isn't as exciting as I thought it would be.
00:46:26
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And then Mike and I kept walking and then we I was like, Mike, this just feels weird. He was like, yeah, like Mike does not indulge me with my weird paranormal shit, right? He trusts me, yeah but he's not like, yeah.
00:46:43
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fully on board, I believe. yeah And at this point, I didn't know what was weird, but then we kept walking because I was like, surely it's going to get fun. Surely we're going to find some cool birds. or Like I was just listening out for birds. And then I realized, oh, it's dead silent.
00:47:00
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The silence before. Silent, dead silence. So the funny thing is when we're walking up to the forest, birds, butterflies, you know, crickets, noises, living bees, everywhere, you know, soon as we went into this thicket.
00:47:16
Speaker
Nothing. And it's the kind of woodland or like forest area where there would be birds and you would especially find those, you'd find small sparrowy robin kind of birds. Like finchy birds because it's like thicketed. None of that. And then we kept going and then we found all these old um bones. So I would say that they were probably either rabbit skulls or even sheep.
00:47:41
Speaker
skulls So if you know anything about New Zealand, there's like no predators in New Zealand. Like, ah apart from domestic cats that probably go feral, like you don't get bears, you don't get cougars. It's like, nothing.
00:47:57
Speaker
nothing So it was weird. And then like and I can, I was like, Oh God. So there was a corner of just bones stacked up. And I was like, this is weird. Like, and initially I'm like, some kids have gone in here and just found bones and their that this is their little cubby. That's literally what I was thinking.
00:48:16
Speaker
And then the longer we stayed in there, the more uneasy I started to feel. And I was looking around and I was like, this looks like a den of some kind. Cause it was quite, you saw one of those thickety things. So I, because I am amazing, when I left this forest, I took pictures of the outside of the forest. And I think I even took pictures inside the thicket. And when I look at the photos now, you can see like a weird entryway.
00:48:46
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that's been made, but it's like weird. So you should find the photos and um, there's either a really deranged homeless person living there, no sign of people, by the way, no like clothing, no rugs, like no sign of anyone living there.
00:49:08
Speaker
And I know like, don't jump to conclusions, but the fact that there was no sound. The humans are pretty dirty. Like, you know, when someone's been living in a spot, like they'll leave something. So it's weird that it's all cleaned out and there's no human kind of wastage. And the fact that like this didn't drop for years later.
00:49:27
Speaker
Cause at the time, even Mike was like, yeah, I think we need to leave. He was getting a bit unnerved and I was too. So we just like, boop. And I was like, that was really annoying and boring. And then as we kept walking, I was like, did you find it weird that there were no birds or like no sound, like not even insects in the middle of summer in New Zealand. It was really weird. And that's my story. So I don't know what that was, but it is funny how it kind of now corresponds to the fact that
00:49:54
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I don't know. It's weird to say. Yeah. It's something that you just can't put your finger on. Like you're like, this was weird, but I don't know why. don't know why And was it, you know, if we just put it down to a paranormal experience, was it, was it just the energy of the land warning us like, Hey, there's a not very good human around. You might want to fuck off. Like, yeah. Was it just like a um gut feeling? Yeah, that's interesting. to go Quiet to kind of get us out. I don't know.
00:50:22
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Yeah, maybe. That's cool though. I think both stories could potentially be Bigfoot worthy. You know, it's fun to dream. It's fun to dream. Not that you wish for these experiences, like scary things aren't fun, but sometimes you look back fondly on them and it's a story to tell. story to tell I never want to meet Bigfoot in the flesh. no but no one good i'd be I would love to learn keep learning about you Bigfoot, but I don't think I need to see you to believe you.
00:50:54
Speaker
Yeah. You got that boundary Bigfoot? Just putting that out there. Oh, well, this has been fun. Good Bigfoot chats. I think we can definitely come back in and talk about Bigfoot in more depth. But I think this was a good intro level, especially because we got into, um you know, time and space and interdimensional beings. I feel like that's great.
00:51:20
Speaker
Pretty decent, pretty decent level of depth. We hope you've enjoyed just ah learning about our understanding of Bigfoot. And yeah, I can't wait to maybe in like two, three years time to like where revisit this topic and maybe have an expert on or... Yeah, that would be amazing. great Um, okay. Well, good chat, Sarah. And, um, until next time, keep things spooky, things spooky guys. Bye.