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SE1: EP7 Australian Cryptids
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What is a cryptid? Do they exist in our world or only in our imaginations? Today we discuss our favourite Australian cryptids and share some spooky tales from our childhood. Katherine and I would like to acknowledge the Traditional Owners and Custodians of the land on which have recorded our podcast, the Whadjuk people of the Nyoongar nation and the Wurundjeri Woi-wurrung people of the Kulin nation, and we pay our respects to their Elders past, present and future.
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Exploring Crystal Healing for ADHD
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I also just wear tourmaline just because I like it. It's a good protective thing. But that's just me. I like crystals and it's black. Crystals are cool. I've got fucking four of them staring at me right now.
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Yeah. see This one's literally for ADHD, guys. What one's that for our ADHD fans? I don't remember. but like Oh, fuck. that is That is great answer for someone with ADHD.
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And that's the thing, right? So I just go with feel. So I will just beeline to a crystal, and this is a hot tip if you're getting into crystals. The crystals choose you, right? So I walked in and went straight for this one.
00:00:39
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I like the colour. Like it's rare for me anyway to see like a nice green and purple. was like, well, I'm one of my favourite colours. Yeah, very i picked it up, and normally they'll have like what they're good for next to it, but like there was no description or anything. Yeah.
00:00:54
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So I asked the lady and she was like, so, you know, like children, like sometimes it's good if you're a teacher or doing workshops, which is interesting. Like you can have it in the room because it lets the kids become less distracted. It's kind of like a focus crystal.
00:01:08
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Oh, yeah. And I was like, cool. So she was talking about like children being very distracted. Yeah. I was like, what about if you were like recently diagnosed with ADHD? Like, and she was like, oh, hell yeah. Yeah. And ADD as well. I was like, yeah, so you don't have to be like a child.
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Yeah, yeah, no shit. I just have it at my desk. Yeah. When I do all my boring paperwork, I'm like, but yeah, don't
Fashion and Personal Style Discussion
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know the name of it. I could show you. Yeah. We'll show you you it one day.
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um Anyway, on another topic, me and Erin want to sometimes do outfit checks with you guys. 100% Catherine's idea, but I'll fucking, I'm with it. I'll join you on this.
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Listen, only when we feel like we to. Watch my fit game go from zero to 100 every second. We're challenging ourselves to get dressed up for this affair. You know, one day maybe we'll have to be on the YouTubes.
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Yeah. Watch this space for visuals. Yes. But for now we will describe fit checks. Go. And I would love you to start because I i am envious of what you have on you.
00:02:12
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Well, okay. I'll start with my. And let's try and be influencers when we do it. All right. Oh, cool. Okay. Okay. All right. Let me channel my inner influencer. What's your alter ego influencer?
00:02:24
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Yeah. So for my outfit today, I went and bought a long-sleeved oversized tee. It's a shirt dress. And I think I bought it because it's cash and it's street.
00:02:38
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Wow. So nice. Cash streetwear. Cash street. um It's comfy for podcast recording because I didn't know i was doing a fucking fit check today.
00:02:51
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That's my fit. But it's chic, black. It is chic, chic, black, oversized tee with a bit of sneakers. But you're wearing some bling, Erin. I am. I am. Yeah, it's all about the bling. um So I am wearing one of my favourite necklaces and I do feel like because we're recording a paranormal podcast, I kind of have to protect myself. So this is tourmaline. I'm going to call it tourmaline today, but I'm going to find the actual name of this rock. It's another protective stone and it's not labradite. It's like something else, but it's similar to tourmaline.
00:03:27
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So it's a protective... necklace so it has intention but it's it's cool it's like made from like a copper looking stuff and oh so the best part about this fit is the pin that i bought at a toy fair last weekend and it's a ghost pin and it's glow in the dark And I'm wearing it and um it's going to go in my ghost slash monster pin collection that I'm going to continue to acquire.
00:04:00
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and Awesome. Pins are good thing to hoard because it doesn't take up much space. Yeah. And I like collecting things. but Yeah, very good. um And this is, the brand is, this is H&M, so FitCheck H&M necklace, some independent designer from Sydney, from Sydney, Australia, represent Sydney Ciders.
00:04:23
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And then the ghosty pin is from some lovely antique store dude who had a collection of pins. And I think it's vintagey. It's like a vintage ghosty look, you know? That's kind of cool.
00:04:36
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But, like, I don't think it was made a long time ago unless he – sometimes I wonder, I'm like, where did you get all these ghosty pins from? Like, were they on old were they old stock from, like, many moons So what is the story behind the pin?
00:04:50
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Nobody knows. So, yeah, that's me. Love it Love the fit check. All right, what's my alter ego influence going to be? ah kind of will keep developing her, I think.
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Yeah. Okay, go. Okay. Well –
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Fit check is T-shirt, psychic TV. Webworm, shout out David Farrier for his webworm. Shout out Dave Ferry. Dave Fazz.
00:05:18
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And it's just got some really cool illustrations. So we've got Ronald McDonald, we've got an alien, we've got three more aliens, we've got some Disney characters, we've got Kermit the Frog. Aristocats, to be precise.
00:05:30
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Yeah, Aristocats, and then you've got a bloody facehugger from Aliens. So it's very eclectic. It's very psychic TV. Yeah. um What's your favourite element on the Psychic TV shirt? Because I think it's, for me, it's a mixture between the three aliens with the weird faces and the face hugger.
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I think they're my favourite. Yeah, mine's definitely, um I do love the Ronald
Cryptids: Myth or Reality?
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McDonald because clowns is a weird obsession of mine lately and I feel like I need to deep dive into why. feel like that's a deep psychological thing I need to get into.
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I think it's – do you know what? I i want to trace it back to Raggedy Ann Tarden days. We'll talk about that on another true. But look his pockets. The McDonald's signs are flipped to be webworm.
00:06:10
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I didn't even notice that until Oh, that's very cool. Very cool. Good shit. um Yeah, teddy bear necklace from I want to say a solid 15 years ago. i bought this at an art market fair and I get so many compliments from And this thing was on sale because the lady in the store probably had it selling for like years and she had it $5.
00:06:36
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Woodcut bare and it has intrinsic value in my life. Anyway, and then my other one is my pin I've decided to put on my jeans because I don't like putting massive holes in my T-shirt.
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And this is a moth pin from a yeah ah Melbourne-based Illustrated designer called Ashley Bechaz. cool. It's B-E-C-H-A-Z.
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So I don't know how to pronounce that. Oh, I love it. um just like She's great. yeah Glasses, Oscar Wiley. um Hair from the shower.
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um What? Shoes, Rolly shoes. like ah was trying to do the curl, like because I do waves yeah and I can't remember. what it is so we've got to get better at remembering to do fit checks it's going to be a good brain exercise Erin it'll be from prep to dress and I washed my face with fucking soap yeah with a cleanser um from yeah and that's then that's how we're going start getting um sponsorship deals because they can be part of our fit check do you hear that did you hear that everyone did you hear that everyone
00:07:47
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you can You can sponsor us. You can get to at least 100 viewers sure through our vocal cords. Yeah. Anyway, I digress. Let's talk about the real shit. Why are we here? Why are we here?
00:08:01
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What we talking about today? Well, thanks for listening. yeah. So, anyway, that was great. I can't wait to do that every episode. See how we're morphin'. See us morphing. Lady morphing. It'll just be one big Roland advertisement. Sponsorship. Sponsorship.
00:08:18
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But thank you for listening this far in. We'll try do some fancy chopping of that, I reckon. We'd get a bit fancy with the edits.
00:08:29
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We could. But I think it was also perfect. so Yeah, true. We'll see. I don't know. We'll see. um Long format, guys. What am I doing trying to cut out all the... All the good bits. Weird bits.
00:08:40
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Yeah. Shut And like I have to just bring it back to the fact that we had to start recording because Catherine was so innocently referring to tourmaline as tourbaline. Stop. I know, but then I – Let me learn.
00:08:51
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know. Well, then I'm like I'm so mean because it's like I i sound like a fucking dickhead geek now. Like it's tourmaline. I'm a tourmaline crystal nerd.
00:09:04
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course. no let's not We don't put people down on this podcast. We don't. We just rip into them and then rip into them when they say shit wrong. Which is so fair. Story of my life. We can have a laugh.
00:09:15
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Yeah, we're sisters. rolata We're allowed to go. Yeah. Have a go at each other. um So I'll do a formal introduction. So I'm excited about this one. Australian cryptids. Yeah.
00:09:29
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did it So i was stoked about this because Kath and I love cryptids too. Like high strangeness. Fuck off for a little bit. Definitely one of like the earliest stages of our lives was like aliens and weird creatures.
00:09:45
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Like everything to real about. Yeah. True. loves True, true, true. I reckon that's an interesting question. I feel like mine was – ghosts and shit, but they're not cryptids. But anyway, so Aussie cryptids and stuff – um I had to do like a real deep dive on even the meaning of what a cryptid is because. Oh, that's a good point.
00:10:12
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Yeah. Like I overthought it. i was like really overthinking what it is, but you know, essentially it's just an animal whose existence or survival is disputed or unsubstantiated, which makes sense.
00:10:25
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So it's like an animal and there's a lot of speculation speculation around whether it exists or not. um So this can be as simple as an animal that's extinct, but people are still seeing it.
00:10:39
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But, like, the world. Interesting. So it still goes into that kind of realm. it definitely. Like, hey, it did exist, but not in human time kind of. Or does it roll over with, like, today's society? Because, you know, would you call it Tassie Devil
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ah Exactly. So ah like for me, I wouldn't. but Yeah, either. But then like when I was looking at this Reddit user's map of Australian cryptids and that taking it very factually, it does list, it lists um the Australian, like the Tasmanian devil a cryptid because people on the mainland of Australia say that they've seen them.
00:11:27
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but wrong But the people of mainland Australia are like, well, you can't have Tasmanian devils in Australia because they're in Tasmania. you know what I mean? So it's like essentially an animal whose existence on the mainland of Australia is disputed.
00:11:45
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But then i went into this whole thing because I was like, no, they're just monsters. Like they're just monsters that have never been documented in science or in our like animals.
00:11:55
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you know, biology classes that are still – Yeah, in like proper society where like facts are needed and substantial evidence. Oh, where did I – I was weirdly – I'm going to shout out – sorry, I need to interject because I just found it very topical with what you're saying.
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But I was listening to um David Ferrier, webworm, shout out, his podcast Flatless Bird, and they did an episode on Bigfoot and he was talking to someone about the cryptid thing – um And, yeah, this guy was, like, very factualised up, like he like had this shit in his head. Yeah. And he said cryptid – it's – it's Yeah, because science hasn't backed it and science is officially like you do need the dead body in front of you.
00:12:43
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Yes. Like facts. like And that's when it becomes science, obviously, because yeah then you can dissect the body and all that stuff. But, yeah, I just – sorry. but just no No, no, no. That's great. Like, again, like your you're saying things that I sort of was reading up on and I was just like getting really deep into it because I was like –
00:12:59
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when the more I read, they were like, what defines a monster? So in science, I mean, you could consider dinosaurs were monsters, but they mean the dead bodies and the bones have been found. So True. They're not cryptids anymore.
00:13:13
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If we never found bones on these huge fucking creatures but we just saw them like drawn onto stone walls. No shit. We just think that's fucking bullshit. Exactly. As if there's like a fucking long net lizard the size of a tree walking around.
00:13:29
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Exactly. But we've got bones. Exactly. Like, really? Guys, think about that. Let's just stop and think about that. Let's stop and think about how nothing is nothing was yeah nothing was an animal in our world until a scientist killed it and studied it.
00:13:48
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Or dug up its bones. Or dug up or dug up its bones. yeah So, like, it's funny because the whole Bigfoot thing is, like,
00:13:57
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It's back to the portal paranormal thing for me. So, yeah you know, that's why. He goes into his portal, we're not going to catch him. He knows when to portalise. He's not going to die on earth. He's smart, smart guy.
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um But, yeah, I, like, was thinking about all of that. I was like, okay, it's it just an animal whose survival is, like, disputed. But what defines the animal? Are we just talking? Because, you know, Big Cats is just is a essentially an Australian cryptid, you know what I mean?
00:14:25
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Yeah. um that's talked about a lot but we know they exist but it's still considered a cryptid i don't know the big cat thing i go into it it's still it okay that's good that's good that you do because i'm going to be devil's advocate and try and shit all over that theory yeah but what theory
00:14:48
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The one that have in my mind. Okay, good. Okay, I can't wait for that. Yep. no No, no, Like literally like calling it a cryptid and making it seem like this supernatural thing. No shit. Yeah, but they don't. Like that's the other thing. So like cryptids.
00:15:01
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But some people still do. Yeah. I feel like it's people that are like maybe just first entering this like knowledge format. and It's a really good point. They read a book from 1912 1912. twelve where it was a fucking freak thing that people were scared about seeing big cats.
00:15:16
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But now we know, hey, big cats exist, boats and ships exist. No ship. Animal exchange exists. Exactly. yeah So why is it so... ocean With knowledge, Like, let's put that together. With knowledge, there's power.
00:15:29
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So... Sorry. no no, that's all right. No, that's all right. I'll just... That's what a podcast is. We're all good. yeah um But, yeah, so... One thing that I didn't get to go in on was the whole world of, like, cryptozoologists.
00:15:43
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Because I'm like, how does one – do they just call themselves cryptozoologists? Because there's no degree in it. feel like it's almost been my dream job. Like, I swear to you, I would have loved to be – No, but one. Because I wanted to be a zoologist, remember? I wanted to be a zookeeper.
00:15:59
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I do. Ranger Kathy. And then, like – I know but growing up I was so naive with because let's be honest like we because we've had this love for this kind of supernatural world for so long some things in my brains just felt like fact and I just felt like oh cryptozoology is like a scientific term like yeah you know a little six-year-old me thinking yeah and then like looking it up and going like careers and and then just realizing what you were talking about like they just have the knowledge, like an antique showman.
00:16:32
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You just collect all this knowledge and then you can write on it because you have the facts in your brain, I guess. Exactly. Exactly. So you can, k so Catherine, this is really cool.
00:16:46
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So I just did a quick Google while you were pouring your heart out about how – My dream job. About your dream job that you didn't quite fulfill in this lifetime. So the good news for you is there isn't a formal path or degree specifically for cryptozoologists.
00:17:01
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you are technically an aspiring enthusiast, Catherine. Yeah, just got to read up. Yeah. And remember the names of things. Yes. But I was like – when I was like looking into all of this – Like not too deeply, but I found like a really cool YouTube video going in on this whole, um the thylacine, like the Tasmanian tiger, because people are convinced that they're back from extinction in Tasmania. Yeah, craziness.
00:17:30
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So there was this cool YouTube video that I was watching and this guy like knew his shit because so he like you you could call him a cryptozoologist because he's like he was from America but he was like let's see if any of these videos have any like truth to them in terms of them being the extinct Tasmanian tiger.
00:17:49
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And yes he like really knew his shit. And I'm just reading more. So I would assume that guy maybe has a background in either zoology or biology or wildlife or natural sciences.
00:18:01
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And then they maybe... Or they learn on their own. He might just read a lot about it what Tasmanian tigers were and stuff like that. yeah So,
00:18:13
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um yeah the thing I appreciate about cryptozoologists is if they take their shit seriously, like you were saying in that David Ferrier Bigfoot episode. Yes, yes. Like he knew what to look for in the videos. Like he wasn't just like, yeah, that looks like a Tasmanian tiger. Because there was one video where i was like, that's one. Like that must be one.
00:18:30
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But he just discounted it because he was like, it's just a mangy fox or a dingo. Like, you know, maybe not a dingo. Yeah, the biology enough, like the sculpture of the animal and what it looks like. He was like, the ears are too pointed, so they're probably a fox.
00:18:44
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um Whereas, like, I didn't think like that. So already just from watching one YouTube video, I'm like, oh, you know, there are ways of deciphering deciphering things.
00:18:56
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So that was really cool. um So you go, guys. Just a bit of an intro into what cryptids are. There's kind of this fine line of animals that have been extinct that people still claim to see.
00:19:08
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um And also this world of monsters like, you know, weird dragon things you know a dragon could be considered a cryptid bigfoot's a cryptid what else would you consider yeah godzilla lock night okay let's let's not lochness monster lochness monster is a cryptid bigfoot bigfoot uh the mothman i'm sure if you're into scary movies you've heard of the mothman prophecy yeah So is that a cryptid because it's like – or is that – well, I guess Bigfoot's humanoid. Yeah, because people see – I think it's when it's not supernatural, right? So if people are seeing a literal half-animal thing – It's a cryptid. Like a werewolf would be a cryptoid because like – I think it is based on like –
00:19:52
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the biology of like something having a heart and stuff. And I don't think it exists. You're seeing Yeah, I think the Mothman can be seen as like a spirit as well. So it's interesting. It would be cool when we go into maybe the American side of things and yes different cultures, mythologies around
Australian Folklore and Cryptids
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it. Yeah.
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Yeah, I thought it would be good just to start with Australian cryptids. That's why I was just like, let's just see what the Australian ones are. I think it's good to have like a beeline focus because there's so many of them.
00:20:21
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So many of them. um So yeah, when I like looked at this map and if anyone wants to find this map, it's by Reddit user truthisfiction.com.
00:20:35
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whitey So just truth is fiction, Y-T at the end. truth Truth is fiction-y T. Anyway, just different ways of reading it.
00:20:46
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But I'm just appreciative that people take the time to do this. So one thing that I've noticed on the map is there's a lot of like water-based cryptids. I'm so sorry.
00:20:57
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I'm so distracted. These magpies look like they're about to smash into my bloody window, but they're just chilling right. It's just, sorry. I'm back. Okay. I was just like looking at my window and just being mocked. It's just funny. Now they're having a good old gas bag, so sorry if you hear them.
00:21:14
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Anyway, let's keep going. i am very curious about this.
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Okay.
00:21:27
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So weird.
00:21:31
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So train of thought was in a flow. Magpies nearly read it. You were going into this map. I'm so sorry. No, no, you're right. It's very rare for a bird to be that close to my window. It freaked me out. Okay.
00:21:43
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I just have so much information in my head because it's all coming back to me because I literally spent a whole day just on the internet reading about all this shit and I was like this. Got to do it. Thank you. And I'm leaning back with my one story. Yeah. No, no.
00:21:54
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comment But like, I just found it interesting that like, let's just, I'll just list some of the names and I don't know why I'm just disinterested in them. I just thought they'd be more interesting, Catherine. The Australian ones. Yeah, I just thought they'd be bit more interesting. um But, you know, maybe I just didn't take the time.
00:22:14
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i think But, you know, America does have a lot of lot more kind of wilder things going on. A lot more people... Yeah. Talking about them as well. I feel like Australia is a bit reserved with all this, right?
00:22:25
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True. There's still a lot to be discussed. um But, yeah, I did find it interesting that there's a lot of – Like the the giant grouper, um the long-necked sea serpent, um the Murray River garrille.
00:22:42
Speaker
Oh. You know, else have we got? rings a bell from like learning about that maybe back in the day, that one. Yeah. Murray River. Interesting. Like the like weird spirits in there or or sorry, animals. Like maybe that's our version of the Loch Ness Monster or something.
00:22:58
Speaker
Yeah. I didn't look into all of them. Um, there's like a rhinoceros dolphin. Um, there's a fucking mainland. Yeah. So mainland Tasmanian devil I found interesting cause I didn't know people have been seeing them.
00:23:11
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Yeah. um I've noticed that in the news. Yeah. And then there's the giant wombat. So i have no doubt that we had something that was like a giant wombat back in the prehistoric days or sometime.
00:23:23
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So people are claiming to see them in sort of very cool Queensland areas. um Yeah, but I kind of chose to look at the bunyip because I was like, shit,
00:23:36
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Because I was like fully going to go yaoi. Yeah, but I was like I'm going to deep dive into the bunyip. That's interesting. So yaoi and bunyip definitely different. Different. Catherine, cool. Yes. Go into it. Teach me. So we'll go into it.
00:23:49
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So I'll just – and before I do, we'll just explain to anyone that's listening. The yaoi, I just found out, Catherine, it's just the Australian Bigfoot. So it's the Australian species of the Bigfoot. That's what I found. I wanted to find like – stuff that was really different but I couldn't.
00:24:06
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so But that's fine. It is what it is. I know but it puts all a bit I wanted yaoi to be different for some reason. So I found some differences between the yaoi and the Bigfoot and essentially the yaoi is considered to be a little bit shorter than the American Bigfoot.
00:24:22
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Yeah, it's like little frumpy thing. Yeah. And then like my brain went into evolution. If we're going to look at it as like a cryptid and not what we think, which is paranormal, like is that because the environment that it goes to like isn't as tall, like doesn't have big trees? sort of Yeah, we don't have a lot of tall, lush kind of. We just got little bushes and red dirt. Yeah.
00:24:45
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You know what? Yeah, I agree. You'd almost be – Yeah, facts, because you'd almost be, if you're too tall, you're going to stand out, aren't you? Because there isn't anything that tall in the bushes.
00:24:56
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Yeah. Unless you're the redwood forest and stuff. Yeah, that's what i was thinking. I literally was thinking that. Yeah, cool. Thank you. um And the hair on – it does, like, facts now because you confirmed it. So, truth.
00:25:09
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um And the hit the hair on the Yowie is said to be more reddish brown, whereas Bigfoot is more um dark grey black. And again, I'm thinking environment like – Yeah. Interesting.
00:25:24
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Red. Red. Red Earth, Australia, all that shit. um But yeah. um Bigfoot is more North American word for, you know, Sasquatch or, yeah you know, Yeti is like different again. So, Yowie is the Australian Bigfoot.
00:25:42
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That is how it's defined and people see it and yeah. But let's just go to Bunyip Town because I'm intrigued. So, Bunyip Town.
00:25:55
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Okay, so i was like, so you i was so surprised by the bunyip. So the bunyip is an Australian cryptid and it's something that remember hearing about ages ago, but I don't even know why. So when I read about it, I was like, how have I not found this interesting?
00:26:13
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Was there not, I'm going to do a Google while you talk. yeah Like keep going, but I'm just going Do a Google. yeah So, um yeah, I just found out that the Bunyip e even has like stories acknowledged by like our Aboriginal people.
00:26:30
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Like it's kind of featured in their Dreamtime stories. um So the fact that it's acknowledged by them just goes to show that it's been like in Australian history. And can I say, think a lot of our, obviously our folklore comes from like First Nation people. So I think it's all going to, I think anything you're going to think is supernatural or like cryptoid, it will come from their stories because they were the collectors of stories before us.
00:26:59
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Yeah, that's true. what I don't know if like every, so it'd be interesting to go through every crypted on the map that this person wrote to see if they are acknowledged. totally be a white bloke being like, yeah, I saw a rhinoceros in the water.
00:27:13
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Like some dude that went to Africa and then came back and told us. You know what I mean? Like, i yeah, I back that. But I think the the true – Like ones that you feel would actually exist. Yes. Yeah. Because true being because they had a connection to they had they yeah had connection to spirit and all of that.
00:27:29
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But um the so the Bunyip, like if we're going to go into that world, when I read into like what the Bunyip is in the Dreamtime stories of like Aboriginal people, it varies from each country. yeah.
00:27:43
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For anyone that's not familiar with um just the different countries, like if you look at the map of Australia and the white map is like the state of Western Australia, Victoria, you know, Northern Territory and stuff.
00:27:56
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But if you look at the original map, it's like lots of different countries and... culture Yes, yes, yes. It's all split up differently. Yes. yeah And they have different names for the bunyip. So depending on where you found yourself in Australia, they would they all had different names, but I don't have them written down.
00:28:16
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um Yeah, so it's interesting that that's just been...
00:28:21
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a kind of creature in their stories. And then with like the white folk, the English settlers, there's recorded sightings of the Bunyip um from the 1800s is when they started recording their sightings.
00:28:38
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And it's like, so what what would you think, I like asking you questions, so if you think of Bunyip, what do you think it would look like would be? This is what I'm – so I'm just – yeah, I've just found a cartoon that rings a bell and it was made in 1987 and it's called Bunyip.
00:28:57
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And I'm like, I wonder – and the sun looks so familiar to me. I'm like, I wonder if this is where I got my ideas of what a bunyip is. won't And it's – yeah, Erin, I have to show you this cartoon. It's wild.
00:29:10
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And it's just called Bunyip. Yeah. Yeah. So if I just search Bunyip. Yeah. Bunyip. Just go Bunyip Australia cartoon. And then like it should be internet archive like and there'll be the sun thumbnail.
00:29:30
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Right. Does this ring a bell to you? I don't know. who um illustrated it? I don't know. It's cool. Sorry, guys, I digress. But i we saw this cartoon. It's like a literally like a Copic market cartoon.
00:29:46
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Anyway, so I was trying to get my info of what a bunyip looked like through this cartoon because I was like, is this where I saw a bunyip? But is it kind of? it's So it's definitely a very animal-esque more than like a, you know, how Bigfoot is like human and ape. Like I feel like a bunyip if I'm going to.
00:30:03
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Yeah. Think what it is could almost be mistaken as, and this is just me going on what my memory as a kid is, is like, do, can people mistake it as like an overgrown, like kangaroo almost like a hairy overgrown kangaroo or like, is, is it just more of a like a big giant creature?
00:30:26
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don't know. This is why I'm intrigued. Cause I have no idea. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. um Very cool. So what you've described is what some people who are like debunking it would say travelers saw were like hey large kangaroos.
00:30:46
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And they also say that they could have just seen large sea lions because it's kind of said – it's just like a monster. Like, do you know what it reminds me of? Is, you know, that game – did you ever used to – well, we used to do it, that game where you fold the piece of paper and one person draws the tail and the next person draws the body and the next person draws the head.
00:31:04
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Like, when I was looking at different descriptions of them, it doesn't add up. Like, so – I've just Google imaged and, yeah it's a bit a hot None of it looks the same. Yeah. yeah Yeah. So I, when I was looking to it, I was like, if I had to describe it to someone like the audience who's listening, I would say a bunyip is ah sea monster staff found in lagoons and marshy areas of Australia.
00:31:28
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And it almost looks drat like dragon-y. um Furry dragon with like wimped. So it's definitely water dwelling. So it has sort of like flippers.
00:31:42
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um They say it has a long tail. Yep. But they also say it has like horns and tusks and that kind of thing. So it's just this fucking monster essentially. And then other people have just, i feel like cartoonised it and like romanticised it in this kind of more palatable way. Like so so there's like a lot of storybooks and – cartoons where it's kind of a bit more land-based so you don't really get the idea of it being being like a swimming thing yeah so it's very interesting so but it looks terrifying when it's in the water yes yep and the idea is that it used to like
00:32:20
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people who were exploring Australia used to hear screams or people even today hear weird screaming noises. But then people who are sort of like scientifically minded, they're just saying, well, that could be a sea lion. And like even kangaroos make some weird noises at night.
00:32:37
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True. um So it's just, it's a tricky one, but yeah, dog-like human eye like humanoid face. That's another thing. um and ah And the biggest thing is that they eat humans.
00:32:53
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Yeah, just yeah yeah don't get in a swamp with a bunyip. Yeah. and So I think like the bunyip is like the perfect, I don't know, perfect example of an Australian cryptid because it's like a monster.
00:33:07
Speaker
Fucking dangerous, going to kill you. Yeah. Yeah. But then I'm like always like right now I'm like, is the bunyip just this story um to keep people away from water areas at night? Like don't go to the water at night because you could fall in and drown, you know, that kind of thing. So it's like a folk's tale that you tell your kids or.
00:33:27
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Yeah. Yeah. That kind of thing. um
Dreams and the Supernatural
00:33:31
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But maybe it's just buried in actual fact. Yeah, so true. But the fact that everyone describes it differently too. um I had a theory of, you know, how like people are like, oh, mermaids don't exist. It's just drunken sailors who saw seals and thought they were attractive because they're starved from a female attention.
00:33:50
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They're like, I'll take anything. yeah and sorry it So it's Swear it was a lady. Yeah. It was a mermaid. It had real. Lovely hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how are you getting laid? well what I do is I tell people.
00:34:06
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I tell people that it's a mermaid. tell people I'm seeing mermaids, but no, no, no. No, no, no, they're called sailor. Yeah, and you can do whatever you want. and Horrible. so bad. Horrible.
00:34:18
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The things they did back in the day. i know, right? so So that kind of concept of just explorers just being drunk because how else do you get through exploring Australia because it was really awful.
00:34:31
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You know, they've come from like lush, green, cool, Yeah, climate harsh dirt, rocks. So um I just think the different depictions of it just, you know, everyone's just fucking drunk and they're just like, I saw a fucking dog thing with horns and it's like, nah, I saw a fucking dragon, you know.
00:34:53
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so Yeah, because I'm seeing one here that looks so gross. Yeah. Like it barely looks like a looks like an alien, if anything. It's very interesting. It is. So i don't know. i want to like try to find people's real life like experiences with the bunyip. Yes. Yeah. i think it could lead to more paranormal feelings like when you're around these areas like, u it feels gross.
00:35:15
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And then if people hear growls and yeah. So yeah What do you reckon about the bunyip? I love that. Good Aussie. I do love the bunyip. I am like the Google images, if you just Google image it, guys, the the the variety of like creature that you'll see is pretty.
00:35:32
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It's kind of cool though because to me it just shows that maybe there's a few animals out there that's going on but we're just lumping it into one kind of thing. Yeah. And there's ah there's a town called bunyip.
00:35:47
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um um In Victoria, Catherine. In Victoria, Catherine. So we're going to go there. No, no, I'm not. Don't be apologetic. I don't know. she No, no no um no, no. I just Googled it then. So maybe we'll travel to Bunyip and see one.
00:36:01
Speaker
Why would they call it Bunyip? That would be amazing. Murray Bridge Tourism. Oh, my God. And they've actually put a Bunyip creature. Yes, we're going. Is it like large Murray Bridge, South Australia. There's like a big sculpture that you can get your photo taken with.
00:36:17
Speaker
That's just amazing. Bunyip. um Sweet. So there you go. Shout out Bunyip and all those who live there. Tell us your Bunyip stories. I think we're going to have to letting people know we have an email.
00:36:33
Speaker
Yes. It's literally a twin. um Oh, so we do have one up and running. no you can tell it. I didn't realise. Can we get in Have we got our password? but Yeah, yeah. i'm I'm always logged in.
00:36:44
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Oh, whoops. Yeah. so I'll check my email there and I swear. But, yeah, if anyone's ever heard of anyone talk about a bunyip, we want to hear from you. And we don't know what we'll do with that information. But Twinterested. Can you spell out?
00:36:58
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Because is it two I's Twinterested? Because there's two of us. Twinterested with two I's. Look at our logo and read our name. Put that in at?
00:37:12
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Just the symbol. Outlook.com. Cool. So, yeah, that's awesome. I do like that you took kind of a – oh, you didn't. It's kind of in our history, like the First Nations people and their Dreamtime stories and stuff and how that kind of correlates to the cryptids in Australia because that's the one story I found is on Reddit as well, guys. Yeah.
00:37:41
Speaker
Reddit is the new wave of information. Yeah. Because it's real people telling real stories. Real people telling real stories all the time. All the time. But I have to a good bullshit meter. I know. i know. But Catherine, on that note, before you go into that, sorry to interrupt you.
00:37:55
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It was really funny because I was looking at, um I literally was Googling like are cryptid monsters are they real animals and stuff? And there was a Wikipedia answer.
00:38:06
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Oh, God. Yeah. And it was like, I literally wrote half of it down. It was like, is a monster different to a cryptid? What animal falls into the cryptid categories? What defines a monster? You know, like this is, this is me pretty much paraphrasing from Wikipedia.
00:38:21
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And then I'm looking in a Reddit forum and someone's just copy and paste of that paragraph from Wikipedia that I just read and just, just as a contribution to the thread. And I was just like, Oh,
00:38:35
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um Like i I didn't write the Reddit user's name down, but just, you know, because he just wanted to make or he or she wanted to make a contribution, but they've just typed encrypted, copied, pasted the paragraph and gone, yep.
00:38:49
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So anyway, it's like when I read it, I was like, this person, what a good kind of question. you know like what is So many people just, can you imagine essays in high school these days, just copying and pasting?
00:39:02
Speaker
Chat GBT. Yeah. Yeah. Use your brains. bet they don't hand write that shit anymore. They're like... Not typing it on their little iMacs. yeah Gross. These kids.
00:39:13
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um So what is the difference between a monster and... Are you letting me know or do we... know have We've already kind of known... Yeah, yeah. So, like, the the interesting thing about that discussion that Wikipedia provided me with was that it was saying, like, what is a monster? Like, cryptids are monsters. It's up to the individual to determine what a monster is.
00:39:32
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Like, if I really hated wombats, they exist and they're fucking monsters because they're fucking awful because I hate wombats. It's all in mind. We'll bring up that discussion. Here's an opinion.
00:39:45
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um feel like Hollywood's made monsters because – Like Godzilla is a monster. Yeah. But we we don't have Godzilla sightings.
00:39:56
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You know I mean? Like in the web world. Yeah. So I feel like monsters are like...
00:40:05
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Human, humans, fiction. Yeah. Human fiction is monsters and cryptids are humans' reaccounts and therefore it's dumped into the cryptid section because we're saying, hey, I saw this.
00:40:21
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good point. now we're planting it in reality. So true. I had to ah fact check that on Google. So yeah, because I wanted to know. So Godzilla is definitely not a pre-existing figure in Japanese culture. It's a character created for the 1954 film.
00:40:38
Speaker
yeah which went on to sell toys. we create – Humans create monsters. Holy fuck in Hollywood. It is. I wonder if like – I love Godzilla, by the way. i want a Godzilla toy for my bullshit collection. Yeah, like I'm not i mad. when i club like I love – I don't know what it is about the merch and just the – I think it's just the Japanese. They just – They do it really well, but I love everything about it. But I'm not like a movie buff with it. It's just like.
00:41:05
Speaker
You just like the character. idea of it being a collector's item. Yeah. but Okay. Anyway. Noted. Birthday. I like Godzilla. Yeah. I like Godzilla. I like Godzilla. I'll just keep mentioning it, Erin.
00:41:18
Speaker
Um. Um. Yeah. So don't know what the fuck the point. I just had to interrupt because I, yeah, we love Reddit and it is very good for truth, but it's also great for finding Wikipedia copy and paste stuff.
00:41:34
Speaker
And it made me laugh. Like when I found that i was like, this is fucking hilarious. So And we know we know we're going to bring up Reddit a lot because you just can't find all of this stuff. And it's the it's more about the true account stories that I'm loving on Reddit.
00:41:48
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um But, you know, the more listeners, we can get some real one-on-one stories from you guys. But this, are we good to do the little five-minute homework that I did?
00:41:59
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so Yes, please. Can we just have a little hot minute? Can we have a little timeout, little interlude?
00:42:17
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And we're back. With Storytime. Yay. you Thank you, Reddit user um davo so Davosone.
00:42:36
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don't fucking know. These bloody usernames. I know. But we love them. So there was just to ask an Australian Reddit and someone said, Australian cryptids. I've been getting interested in cryptids and in the USA there are tons of cryptids.
00:42:52
Speaker
And then they listed some and I was like, i haven't heard of but hardly any of these, but like Bigfoot, Jersey Devil, Beast of Bray Road. So deep dive. I think I've heard of Jersey Devil, but I don't know. have too, I don't, yeah, we're going to, I'm going to enjoy it. We're going to enjoy that one.
00:43:05
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Yeah, so they were like, can you share what you think are the most unique cryptids of Australia? And this story just brought back childhood because stories linked to this cryptid remind me of the stories that we were told when we were young because me and Erin grew up in like a remote little town for a couple of years and, yeah, a lot of the – Yeah, First Nations people would tell our stories about. And we should, a good thing to note as well, like just because we're talking about Aboriginal stories is there sometimes, it's probably good that we're not going into it. Sometimes there's stories that men they are allowed to talk about, even with their lore and dream time, and there were stories that the women are are allowed to talk about with their lore and their stories.
00:43:54
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Yeah. talk about anyway um but it is interesting yeah so um yeah some uh davos own has said that the yowie and the bunyat are the most well-known iterations of the creatures from indigenous lore but there are many and they and then um he goes on to say i grew up in australia southwest and it's called the wood do you remember this word wood archie the wood archie wood archie yes i do remember that word yeah yeah so they called it the wood archie um
00:44:27
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And that is depending on the story and which Indigenous group is telling it. So i found that interesting. Yeah. And it will lure unsuspecting individuals into dangerous places in the forest along the coast at night by mimicking the sound of an infant crying in the distance, which is like something we were always told as kids. If you hear a baby crying...
00:44:52
Speaker
in the bushes, don't follow the cries. Like it was something that we were actually like, just don't go towards the crying child and that always scared me i was like what because we were very young just reminding people yeah katherine and i were like four three three or four and these are our first memories it's just like okay don't but yeah don't write your name in the sand sand yeah and don't don't follow crying babies in the bush like these these are our first knowing wandering yeah so yeah very cool and um
00:45:28
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Anyway, I just thought it was a cool little tidbit. Yes. No, and, like, i reckon we can go into a little bit of a story now then from, like, because now I'm wondering, because when I was looking into.
00:45:39
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Little story time and ending story time. Yes, because when I was looking into the Bunyip thing it did say it like it talked about cries and like people would hear cries so I wonder if that bunyip story ties into the crying baby thing don't follow it absolutely absolutely yeah um because I was going to go into i'd like can't be bothered anymore but I really went into big cats and But maybe I'll do a Tiny Tales on Big Cats because it's not really – it's kind of a boring cryptid thing because it's very obvious that Big Cats could definitely exist in Australia. But maybe I'll do a Tiny Tales episode on that.
00:46:16
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Yeah, because you have a cool little story and I think that's just like a cool little story time. Yeah. No, I agree. But I reckon would it be interesting to tell that story that we are told by our brothers – Luke and Tim about when they were walking home this is where we grew up and like yeah listen you tell the story because I honestly don't know it very well but it's yeah true because I feel like if I met mum and dad's and Luke's around I'm like can you tell me it again because it's just so interesting yeah I don't hear it a lot yeah but they I think we so we had neighbours but they were
00:46:55
Speaker
Like, so we'd be at our neighbour's house a lot, but we must have been a few houses down. or maybe When we say neighbour's house, it was. They were they were there. they were over a little river. Creek. and Yeah. creek Like, it wasn't, like, suburban neighbours. I just want people to know how remote this situation was. Like, you know, you'd walk, maybe.
00:47:15
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You'd walk. I'd say you'd easily walk.
00:47:22
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500 metres to their house. Yes. So it wasn't like a fence and your neighbours were there. Yeah. Yeah. So i think we were either there or or like Luke and Tim were there with mum and dad or they were in, like, you know how you had to go to that town hall if there was like a birthday or whatever, you'd be at one of the, yeah. so the story is, i'm going to not tell it well, it'll be interesting to have them over, that our brothers were walking home and it was really easy to walk home because it was just like up the road and they were older than us, they can walk home, whatever.
00:47:56
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Mm-hmm. So it's something along this, these lines. Yeah, no, it's coming back to me. yeah Yeah. Luke and Tim had left wherever they were at. They saw mum leaving. So they were keeping up with her, but she was a bit ahead of them.
00:48:09
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So like, yeah, we're going follow mum home. But mum was like, I was never with them. So gross. Yeah, so gross. But then it was either mum or dad who had a bit of a weird feeling and they were like, where are the boys kind of thing?
00:48:24
Speaker
And they... i think it was dad was getting a bit persistent. Yes. Yeah. going to check on them. And they'd walked past the house and they were just walking off into nowhere, but they were just like, no, follow mom home and then we'll be home.
00:48:41
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And they didn't. And it freaks them out. Like they're just like, it was mom. Like that was mom. We were following her home. brothers, if we're getting this wrong, email us directly and we'll get back to a correction.
00:48:54
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But, um, but, um, I just find that really creepy. Like imagine being a kid, like, cause I used to do that in the shops. Do you have a moment when you were kid and everyone's done the classic hold random man's hand? Daddy.
00:49:08
Speaker
ah Daddy. And you look up and it's not them. Oh man, I did that too often. Like so bad. Same. I could count. Yeah. ah essentially it's like is is that and they're just following someone that they think there's mummies but then the fact that they just keep going into the depths of the bushes and never be seen yeah and they're like who are you following they're like we thought it was you or something like that i wish i need them to tell the story but i find that really creepy it's a creepy it's it's one of the creepiest is just thinking you're seeing someone and it's not who they are like gross yeah because it was night time and like yeah
00:49:47
Speaker
the sun had set and I think that's when they got worried. Like, so dad found them or something. Spooky guys. So weird. And apparently mum and dad said that we used to break out of the house a lot and just walk like, we used to just be like,
00:50:05
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fuck this. Like we were three, four, but we were like escape artists. just Yeah. We would just like go out the front door and walk and there'd be times where they're like, where the fuck are Catherine and Erin?
00:50:17
Speaker
yeah anyway, let her lock us in. It's all good.
00:50:21
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Got to keep you safe somehow. Yep. I feel like at one point I was like, that's so cruel. and they're like, you used to be fucking down the road. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough.
00:50:33
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Do what you got to do. um Yeah. But any other weird – do you have any stories? trying think like – Have you ever seen any weird things in Australia? Like when you've been out – haven't. Like I had.
00:50:44
Speaker
Because you've been to the Blue Mountains and – Yeah, and I loved the feeling up there. Like – and when I say loved, it's weird. it Like I get the whole Blue Mountains is a Bloody Portal vibe because it is. And I did love the drive and seeing – like how everyone embraces like the yaoi and the bunyip. Like I think like one random ghost town with like five houses, there's just like a little bunyip yaoi where you can put your face in and take a photo.
00:51:16
Speaker
Oh, good. And like that's one of my favourite memories. Like forget the nature. I want a photo with the yaoi. Yeah, so it felt very super, like it did feel very supernatural.
00:51:26
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We weren't – obviously staying in like full-blown nature. So, but I could imagine if you would camp, I don't even, I get, I hate that I get scared of the idea of camping purely because of these things.
00:51:40
Speaker
You'd want to do a few like you'd want to bring a few crystals with you, wouldn't you? Yeah, no shit. You don't want some intentions put down before you camp. But yeah, I wish I had a, I mean, don't, be careful what you wish for. I don't know if I wish for cryptid story.
00:51:54
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I don't know. Yeah. But I find it fascinating. Yeah. Yeah, I like um just am thinking about like an area that I feel like is very portly and stuff. it's It was in New South Wales in a place called Crystal Creek and very like – You know, rainforest old... Magical....area. Yeah, magical, like, fairies would exist there if that was a thing.
00:52:21
Speaker
Yeah. I'm sure they are. That'll be season We should look into fairies. Season five, just watch us. And fairies exist, and I had a conversation with one of them. Yes, there it is. Yeah. Oh, my God.
00:52:34
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Yeah, so, like With that location, i remember, so that's where Mike and i were holidaying and it was weird. So we went and saw, um you know, like in New York and stuff, there's fly flies and they're really cool, like glowing bugs.
00:52:53
Speaker
yeah So in this area, there's glow worms. So oh my god like the accommodation was like, if you want to see glow worms, go down here and blah, blah, blah. And they're so fucking cool. But on the way to see the glowworms, you had to walk through thick forest because you're pretty much in the middle of nowhere where this like really beautiful place was.
00:53:12
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And it was scary. Like I felt watched. and yeah And everyone knows that feeling, I'd like to think, you know, yeah everyone kind of knows that feeling when you're like... Peeing outside and you're like, who's watching me while I pee? Exactly.
00:53:26
Speaker
Yeah, no shit. No shit. Specific, but we know. Specific camping situation. But, yeah, so um so, yeah, like I was walking with Mike and I remember, like I didn't tell him at the time because I, like, kept a lot of these things hidden. But I remember just walking and being like, if Bigfoot exists in Australia or Yowie, whatever you want to call it, like he's here. Yeah.
00:53:48
Speaker
I'm not even kidding. And that's, i think it's the first time I ever thought like, is there a Bigfoot in Australia? Like, yeah does it exist? So that was one weird feeling. Seeing the Glow Worms was worth it. But I remember just being a bit like, okay, let's get back.
00:54:01
Speaker
Yeah. Interesting kind of energy. And then there was another situation. And this isn't, i don't know, this isn't really paranormal, but it was weird. So I always find found it interesting whenever Mike would tell me a story because he doesn't do it often. And he he woke up one morning, he was like, I had the weirdest dream.
00:54:20
Speaker
And was like, what do you mean? Because like the place where we were staying just had full pane glass windows like everywhere. So it was just rainforest views. And i have to admit the first few nights it was a bit hard for me to sleep because I was like, I feel like there's so much energy. Yeah. It was a bit weird.
00:54:36
Speaker
But like Mike literally woke up and he was like, I had a dream, Erin, that like there were all these monsters and aliens floating. looking at us from outside the window and I was like oh my god like he doesn't not something he would would ever gravitate towards I know yeah so I remember just being like ah okay what do you mean like I needed more information he was like just aliens and stuff and like they were hovering and just like looking in on us and I was like did that actually happen then like I didn't have any dreams like that but I I'm like no shit I bet
00:55:12
Speaker
you did like kind of thing yeah and even as I'm telling the story I can like just picture these weird little characters doing that but um that's really weird dreams are enough for me sometimes like yeah um so that was a weird story racking my brain even for like energy vibes but I'm I think I've been pretty lucky up until now anyway um with weird energy don't know I don't think I've been that tapped in be honest true true that and then you rented a haunted house and and here we are yeah yeah and a fun time all my clothes smell like sage yeah you know when you're around it so much you don't know if you smell like that like I've got all the essential oils at the moment yeah
00:56:02
Speaker
i need to wash my whole, I feel like my room smells like a campfire. Like that's been burning out for four days. Like it feels gross. Anyway, whatever makes you feel. You should buy – yeah, no shit. I ended up buying a white sage and it's got other stuff in it.
00:56:18
Speaker
Candle. So it's like got sage in it but there's other things in it And I'm like this can be my sage because at least my room doesn't smell like – Oh, my God. Looking that up. Yep. Cool. So there's a recommendation you need a break from the campfire. Anything else cryptoided – We look at my little notes.
00:56:37
Speaker
I do feel like, you know, it was good that we went down the Australian route because it shows –
00:56:44
Speaker
There's not a lot. Yeah. Like there's a map um that is pretty cool. I wasn't excited by it, but maybe that's because I'm not excited by extinct animals. was going say, we too paranormal?
00:56:58
Speaker
We want something. was going to say ze because it's like. Are you
00:57:04
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Are you bored at what you're seeing on the map or it just wasn't exciting thing? I'm not interested in ocean dwelling. Maybe that's another episode. Me neither. What is that? interested in ocean dwelling because there's a whole fucking dimension underwater.
00:57:19
Speaker
No shit. So, of course, it's going to weird shit. Yeah. And you know what? They're not cryptids. They're probably just actual fucking things. So, let's just leave the ocean out of it until we can live down there like Atlanta style.
00:57:31
Speaker
Yeah. I just didn't, I was just a bit bored by it, but I did go deep into big cats, but I'll do a tiny tails on that. Cause just, yeah.
00:57:43
Speaker
I think it deserves its own little half an hour segmento. um Yeah. Yeah. And I have always loved cryptids and cryptozoology. So maybe I'll do, and I'm not talking like we're going to do another one back to back, but I'll do the kind of American one that's a little bit more like.
00:58:03
Speaker
Yeah, do deep dive. It's hard though. It's hard to pick. Yeah, I'll i'll pick maybe three. Yep. they Like if anything, i think the most like interesting thing that can come up with the whole cryptid thing scientific stuff is the thylacine in Tasmania.
00:58:23
Speaker
um So for anyone who's not used to like Australian geography, Tasmania's little island underneath the mainland of Australia and um it's got some unique shit happening.
00:58:36
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So the Tasmanian tiger was extinct
00:58:41
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There was like one in a zoo and that was the last living Tasmanian tiger. um And they they still don't know if it died of natural courses causes or if they shot it because that was considered. they shot it.
00:58:54
Speaker
Yeah. No shit. They're like, we don't want. because We don't. We just don't remember. No shit. Don't remember using a gun, you dickhead. Yeah. Like, why would that be one of the two? Like, oh, someone might have shot it. I know. Like, why did they even mention that? don't that up if you didn't shoot. Yeah, because like there were two. Triggered.
00:59:15
Speaker
Like I thought the last one was killed on a property. They even have a sighting of the last wild Tasmania tiger that existed and it was shot by a certain dude. Because of course they had livestock and they're like, this is this is bad for our agriculture. So we're going to kill, you know, this beautiful animal.
00:59:33
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Which is interesting. Anyway, that's a whole other thing for discussion. But um I remember when Mike and I were travelling around Tasmania, the thylacine came up on like ABC radio. There was someone talking about the probability that it very much could have survived extinction, but we just didn't know because...
00:59:53
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There's some really, like, dense parts of Tasmania. Yeah, you can't get into all of Tasmania. Yeah. I think that's where Alone is shot, right, Tasmania? Yes, it is. Australian version? Yeah.
01:00:04
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Like, if that gives you any indication. No shit. Of the ruggedness. But the thylacine, and for visually, it's kind of like this numbat kind of creature, right, with its, like, belly on the – or does it have more elongated legs?
01:00:19
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It's pretty much like – um When I look at it, it's like a mixture between a fox, a dog. Like a fox and a dog. it looked It's almost like dingo.
01:00:33
Speaker
I'm thinking of it like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah Okay. you're probably yeah I think you're thinking of like.
01:00:39
Speaker
um Numbats are like really endangered, you know? Yeah, maybe I'm just thinking of a numbat. But this thing was a and stuff like that. Okay. But it has the numbat stripes on it. It's got the stripes. That's why making that correlation. Okay, but it's like more dingo-esque, but it's got that stripe pattern happening on the back.
01:01:01
Speaker
Yeah. So, like, because it's called the Tasmanian tiger. So, yeah um people are saying that they're seeing them and that's the YouTube guy. I was, like, interested in seeing what the videos were like. But a lot of them are said to be foxes because there are foxes in Tasmania.
01:01:19
Speaker
Yeah. But I don't know. There's like this whole other thing, like the news, the current news today is talking about dire wolves that they're genetically engineering back from extinction and shit like that.
01:01:33
Speaker
But... I don't know. I'm going to just go weird. So I don't know where I heard this, but I was either reading something on Reddit. Yeah. I was either reading something on Reddit. Let's get the theories going.
01:01:44
Speaker
It was either Reddit, Instagram reel, or some fucking weird YouTube conspiracy video. Yeah. But they were talking about aliens helping the earth bring some animals back from extinction.
01:02:00
Speaker
What do you reckon? Oh, God, love this so much. Let's let it happen. Let it happen, I say. if i would I trust an alien with it. I trust an alien with it instead of a human fucking slicing up cells and shit like that. No, no, no. Just step aside. Just step aside.
01:02:15
Speaker
Just step aside. Let the aliens do it because we fucked up the world a bit and they're like, we'll help you a little bit. We'll introduce. Love that as a theory because I trust that rather than we're, you know, conjuring some zombie shit up in our own little sci-fi dungeons. I know.
01:02:33
Speaker
So that's just something that I felt like talking about because I remember hearing that theory. No, like love that. Love hearing that theory. I'm like, did aliens decide that thylacines were good for Tasmania? Like do they keep, like ah do thylacines eat Tasmanian devils because Tasmanian devils are shit and they eat other cute things in Tasmania? You know, the whole food chain. Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
01:02:55
Speaker
There's a reason for predators and shit, you know? balan Balancing act coming back into play for sure. Yeah. I like that. um So that's a cool theory. yeah I'll try looking to that one day, see where I found it.
01:03:09
Speaker
um So pretty tired. Same. And I want to go to bed. Yep. Have a little nap. But this has been really good. Yeah. I had a shit sleep. So nap time for it me. Yep.
01:03:22
Speaker
I'm going to eat lunch. Okay.
01:03:25
Speaker
But, guys, cryptids, they exist. Or do they? And stay tuned for Erin's little story time extension on this one. Yeah. it sounds pretty cute. going to do a tiny tale on big cats in Australia because it's so fucking outrageous.
01:03:45
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Lovely. Yeah. All right. Bye. Bye.