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S1 E11 ยท Twiinterested: Your Paranormal Sidekicks
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Join us in our season finale as we share some embarrassing tales involving UFO's and Fairies!

Transcript
00:00:01
Speaker
Cheers, everyone.

Celebrating the 11th Episode

00:00:02
Speaker
Hello. Oh, my goodness. Holy shit. This is our 11th episode. 1-1-11.
00:00:14
Speaker
Oh, numerical order and everything. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. We are really stoked. We're like celebrating a bit. So we are. We've got a clink.
00:00:26
Speaker
We've got a a lovely, I don't know if you call it a cocktail. Tequila with a bit of lime. tela with Tequila with a bit of lime and a dash of mixer. Mixer. Yeah. Yeah. um But yeah, we're here just to um settle in yeah and just spit some shit because we know we haven't done a collective episode in a very long

Nostalgia and Upcoming Themes

00:00:46
Speaker
time.
00:00:46
Speaker
We know you've missed both of our little voices. You've missed the banter and the riffing. Yep. um And we're sick of hearing Erin's voice. Yep. and i'm i'm so I'm scraping at the barrel every time. I'm like, what do I do now? What are we talking about? You've been...
00:01:02
Speaker
Bloody Brill while our life lives are getting sorted. yeah um Yeah, so we thought we'd just kind of do a free-flowy whatever and episode. um We know we kind of teased you on the last joint episode about... The last two. The last two episodes have been leading to this moment.
00:01:19
Speaker
yeah disappoint it's Yeah, it's been pretty heavy. um But we will touch on the a theme that I did half research before i just kind of gave up on it. I just kind of, I was researching it and I thought maybe it would be cooler and maybe i need to get better at like deep diving.
00:01:39
Speaker
Yeah. i Yeah. Yeah. I think that's something I need a work on. It's got nothing to do with you guys. But, you know, Catherine, you just take a seat because I have to admit you've done well.
00:01:50
Speaker
theres There's probably pages of research that Catherine has not
00:01:55
Speaker
will never see the light of day. So you tried. yeah and i've got I'm looking at it right now. I'm looking at a Microsoft Word document. Yep, holy shit, there's links. Yeah, lots of cut and paste of things.
00:02:07
Speaker
So before, okay, so we'll give the review. the theme was like...

Exploring Spooky Forests

00:02:14
Speaker
The theme. Sorry. I'm just looking at like the title that I've given the document. So I'm just going to. the theme is spooky forest stuff, guys. Holy shit.
00:02:26
Speaker
Yep. And it was just kind of, I wanted to really dive into like the notoriously haunted forests of the world. um Yeah. So like, you know, Japan has some haunting things.
00:02:38
Speaker
forests and um there's one in Romania that's a bit spooky haunting forest yeah there's one with a not very nice name that we've seen people go to a lot it's like the haunted forest where it's just very dark I won't talk about it moving on we won't focus on that but it's one that's like really like got not a good yeah we will move on from that one um But anyway, the one that I kind of like thought was worth mentioning after I gave up on this topic was the Hoya Batu forest in Romania.
00:03:09
Speaker
um Purely because I liked that the name of the forest is actually from a story like about the forest. So Hoya Batu is actually โ€“ let me get my notes. Yeah. While Catherine's getting her notes, so Catherine, you just slow it down. um katherine katherine I have not done my prep and I'm like trying to prove, I'm trying to prove that like I can deliver yeah on Hoya Batshu for us.
00:03:39
Speaker
And also, you know, we um we haven't had any, we didn't really do any prep for this episode. So let's just chill. We'll just take a moment to chill. But I just want to, this is, story will take two minutes and then I'm done and then I want to hear about because the other part forests and like you know the deep dark dank forest is like um like fairies and gnomes and like goblins and shit and I I think maybe that's where I should have put my focus yeah a little bit yeah just because i was going into like high strangeness again. Cause we do like a bit of high strength. Yeah. But just in a forest setting. So like a lot of the stories I read is just like people walk into the forest and they have UFO encounters or they are feeling a bit spoopy, but
00:04:24
Speaker
You know, there's science behind being in forests and feeling spooky because you're a human and you've got like animal instincts and you're kind of on high alert when you're surrounded by nature and predators and shit.
00:04:36
Speaker
So you're going feel a little uneasy anyway. I like that. yeah

Why Are Forests Spooky?

00:04:40
Speaker
Before we... Grounded? Yeah. Grounded reality there? Before we pressed record, Catherine was going into it, like, in quite a lot detail. i was like, I've never thought about that.
00:04:48
Speaker
Like, of course, especially if you're traveling, like, you've booked a plane ticket, you're traveling, you want to hike in this cool nature reserve or whatever in a foreign city, in a foreign country. And then you're like, oh, this shit's fucking haunted. But it's like, no, it's just like, you're not familiar with the but the lay of the land. Yeah, the geography, the sounds, the twigs.
00:05:09
Speaker
yeah the snapping of them leaves. And even like the animals and stuff. So like even in Australia, like I remember barely camping. It was like in a shower, but on a campground.
00:05:20
Speaker
and That's my idea camping. Yeah, just a bit of that. I remember just being like, having to walk all the way to the toilet and being like, what the fuck is that noise? Yeah, it was scary. there wasn't a toilet in your chalet? No, because it was like half camping. yes And so i had to go to the toilet so much.
00:05:37
Speaker
And I'm the kind of person where I wanted to be like, you have to come to the toilet with me. But like, you can't do that five times throughout the night. you can't pull your mate into the toilet every night. Yeah, so...
00:05:49
Speaker
Anyway, I got freaked out by things watching me, but then i like, they were all just kangaroos. So I felt kangaroos just staring at me and they, feel that I could feel it. I people i mean, kangaroos.
00:06:01
Speaker
Watching it. Yeah. Scary. It was so scary. Nighttime scariness. And that's when you're familiar with it. Like we're, ah we're Australian, like we're Aussie and that was scary as shit. Yeah, exactly.
00:06:13
Speaker
So anyway, imagine taking yourself somewhere foreign. Yeah. oh And there's like a weird like hedgehog thing just scurrying around. You're like, oh my God, it's a demon. What is that? Demon scurrying on the ground.
00:06:24
Speaker
um I'll just get this dumb story out of the way about Hoya Bacchi. Yes. I shouldn't say dumb. It's โ€“ look. i get I get so sensitive for like โ€“ the stories of like potential passed on ones. i'm like, I'm not calling this shepherd dumb because Hoi Baciu is a forest and it's named after a shepherd. Like the story goes that he ah according to local legend, disappeared into this forest with his 200 sheep.
00:06:53
Speaker
So apparently he went into this forest herding, shepherding these 200 sheep um and he was just never seen again and the sheep were just never seen again. But I don't have the facts on how large this forest is. And it's, where is it? Romania. Right, Romania. Yeah.
00:07:11
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And that was like the earliest well-known story associated with the the mysterious reputation and stuff. But there's a lot of, um yeah, there's just a lot of stories about people

Tales of Disappearances and Eerie Sounds

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going in and never coming out.
00:07:22
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And people hear giggles of like women and stuff. And like, you know, just all that creepy stuff that you think happens in scary movies. There's just like a lot of accounts of like giggling girls. Oh, thank you.
00:07:34
Speaker
glowing green eyes that are staring at you, you know, but again, a lot of animals have glowing green eyes. yeah so But yeah, that's kind of um like as far as I got with my research guys. um And then I kind of, let's just have a look at some of these funny notes that I wrote.
00:07:51
Speaker
um Spooky forest stuff. Yeah. Our minds are wired to detect danger. Our animal instincts kick in and are more heightened in unfamiliar terrain.
00:08:02
Speaker
So that I probably got that sentence when I Googled like the realities of walking around in a forest, scientific facts. Um, So it feels like โ€“ Try it, Google it, you know, try Googling paranormal explanations and then on the flip side, try Googling scientific explanations and you'll find the truth somewheres in between, right? Yeah.
00:08:25
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Yes.
00:08:28
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Just throwing my two cents. That's deep. That's deep. um And then my other note was โ€“ ah
00:08:36
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um forests are often shrouded in mystery, so vague, mystery, folklore, and tales of paranormal activity. And that's the thing. I think folklore would be very interesting. I just didn't, I think I just needed to niche down a little bit on this topic, guys.
00:08:51
Speaker
So this was kind of like me just dumping my thoughts. And then the wrote, there's so many directions we could take. yeah um Folklore, which I'll get Erin to dip her toes into. And then I bet Erin...
00:09:05
Speaker
took that one thing I asked her help on and then, like, created three amazing stories with. yeah Like, I'm sure you have โ€“ because what did I tell you to do? look Gnomes. i was like, look into gnomes for me. I bet they're cheeky and fun.
00:09:16
Speaker
And I did, and I did, and I'm going to have to get my notes up because that was months ago now. I found some fun stuff, though. Oh, okay. yeah I mean, that would be fun because I think what I've just โ€“ wasted the last 20 minutes talking about is like absolute trash it's just me talking about um how i tried to get a podcast off the ground but then realized like i wasn't interested in it yeah we were moving like we've been moving we've been changing we've been shifting we've been anamorphin anamorphin so speaking of anamorphs do you remember the show anamorphs guys listeners
00:09:52
Speaker
Did you watch the show Animals? Yeah. Do you believe that there are animals that can shapeshift?

Werewolves in Pop Culture

00:09:59
Speaker
Yeah. That's a creepy thing to think about. don't know. I don't know about that.
00:10:03
Speaker
Like, okay, guys, the neighbours just put some stuff in the recycling and it freaked us out. It's a bit jumpy. It's been stormy weather. been a stormy weather.
00:10:16
Speaker
um But, yeah. Like American Werewolf in London, do you ever watch that movie? I haven't. Classic. Really? Classic, like, famous scene of, like, a human morphing into a ah werewolf. Oh.
00:10:29
Speaker
Because it's done really well. So classic, iconic. Okay. I need to watch this movie. Iconic, yeah. We should watch it together. um But, yeah, when I watch the Metamorphosis, anyone that's seen the movie will know.
00:10:41
Speaker
painful looks so painful like the claws are coming out of his fingers and stuff like his fingers are like dislocating and getting longer and stuff yeah it's very cool whether that's like something that would actually happen if I think of that movie I'm like I just don't know i don't I don't know I think it'd be the other way around I think it would be like a total complete paranormal being just shape-shifting yeah rather than like
00:11:08
Speaker
Keep going. Rather than like a human deforming itself every night. Like that would exhausting. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man, you do it once and you die. Yeah, you like want to go bye-bye. Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:21
Speaker
So, yeah. Where are we heading with this? Well, we're just chatting. So, guys, like we're just having a chat but like. Catherine said Animorph and I just remember the show Animorphs and I remember just loving it. Just be careful, Erin, because they were books first. Okay, sorry. yeah So for the true fans out there. remember you didn't read the books and you were just watching the TV show, like get on our level, but there were books.
00:11:46
Speaker
There were books. They're called Animorphs. It was like... But the, like, TV show was so good because they were just, like, high school kids. But then, like, that all this shit would go down. They'd be like, we've got to be a lion tonight. got to be a lion tonight. I'll be an alien. I'll be a fucking werewolf. And we'll sort this shit out. and Like, what problems were they solving? yeah What were they? It must have been high-end, like, well, government conspiracy stuff. Yeah, it definitely, like, men in black and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12:10
Speaker
High school kids just being, like... We're going to solve the problems of conspiracy America. Threw up too fast, yeah you know, having to handle adult

Podcast Journey and Future Plans

00:12:18
Speaker
shit like in high school, along with their love affairs and their dramas. Yes.
00:12:23
Speaker
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. a Good times. That was a great show. Oh, what a good show. But, um. Yeah, like I think the moral of the story tonight is thank you for listening to our first season.
00:12:36
Speaker
Like we actually want to thank you. We went through this many eps and we managed to release something. We we just said once a month. I think kudos to anyone that releases anything more than once month. Oh, what the shit. Guys, we were like โ€“ When we first started doing this podcast, we were like, we'll batch record. We're going to do batch recordings like to three a month and then we'll just release them and we'll have like four or four seasons.
00:12:59
Speaker
Dumb. Idiots. Absolutely stupid. But, you know, maybe one day yeah when we get into the flow. But like who who gets into the flow of life ever? like No shit. Life be life-in.
00:13:10
Speaker
So this has been a good little reprieve, good little bit of fun for us. Yeah. And we're going just talk, meander down some different paths, maybe talk a bit too long, you know, make up for lost time we have with things that we we just feel like talking about really. I feel like had a story that I wanted to tell you.
00:13:30
Speaker
Yeah. But I can't remember it. But I was like, that'll be good for the podcast. Yeah. i keep thinking, keep wondering. Yeah, I will. Yeah. But yeah, like Catherine's going to have a ponder and I'm going to tell a story because speaking about like forest stories and stuff, like, so it's no surprise. Well, not no surprise. when What am I trying to say? It's no, yeah, it's no surprise. I don't know. If you listen back to our like earlier episodes, we do talk about how much we loved high strangeness.
00:14:01
Speaker
Yes. And it does involve like UFO stuff and all that kind of thing. But like, Isn't high strangeness everything?
00:14:12
Speaker
It is. like But if you listen to the episode, I break it down a bit because it kind of โ€“ like the origin. If you're going to talk โ€“ so you know how you're talking about Animorphs and you're like, there's books. We watch the TV show but there's books.
00:14:24
Speaker
So if we're going to talk about high strangeness, we have to respect โ€“ that UFOs is where it starts. ah page So if you took it look into the origins and like, you know, i don't even know if there's like hardcore high strangeness people out there, but if they're like, why are you bringing this into our fucking high strangeness? It's UFO shit. i didn't Yeah, and because I always thought it was kind of like UFOs and then high strangeness. That's honestly how I thought of it. Yeah, Blue Book. Project Blue Book is the first. oh Well, like Project Blue Book I think was written by the guy that wrote a book on the first scenarios of โ€“ I would love โ€“
00:14:56
Speaker
I would love having like, if we started getting guests yeah who were like, well, anyone out there listening, if anyone out there wants to school us on our complete non-knowledge.
00:15:07
Speaker
Hey, this is why it's like season 101 of we're we're schooling ourselves yeah as well as you guys. We're learning. We're learning. So please be gentle. like But also I feel like our listeners are like us and they're like, is that true? So I hope you have your phone out right now.
00:15:21
Speaker
Anything we say, please fact check us. Yeah, because we are just talking talking what we know and we're not. factualizing anything no with word documents yeah just because we've rewritten it and summarized it does not and it mean it's that but um yeah just where the where was I going with that fucking thought hi or just how much we love like weird forest things and I honestly feel like even when I went traveling a lot like the walking around with yeah yeah that's what I'm going to talk about thank you okay so prompt
00:15:56
Speaker
Thank you. um Yeah, Catherine visiting. This is like, what, eight years ago? Yeah.

Embarrassing Moments and Misunderstandings

00:16:02
Speaker
long time ago. And we were doing like a really nice walk. And we were both a bit hungover. I actually remember we decided to go on that walk because we got quite drunk the night before. And we were, like, a bit older. So instead of just staying at home and eating McDonald's, we like, let's go for a fresh walk.
00:16:20
Speaker
What a dumb idea. Go us. Yeah, go us. So that's, like, I remember that being the whole, like, idea behind it. Sunny day. and I remember just being quite highly, like, anxious at the time.
00:16:33
Speaker
So Catherine and I, like, walking. Yeah. And out the corner of my eye, I see this fucking blue thing with wings. Oh.
00:16:44
Speaker
Do you remember this? I do not remember this at all. This pains me that you don't remember. It just goes to show like how and maybe i was so embarrassed. Oh, okay. It's but like it's making me, yeah, good. Like, listen, I'm not laughing about this every weekend. if that's Okay. This story has stayed with me because because of how embarrassed I felt. and So you obviously have this real big belief happening. Yeah. That's why you're mortified. I think, yeah.
00:17:10
Speaker
And I do remember I was opening up to like the possibility of like are there ghosts? Like, cause I'd, I'd shut all that shit down. But then when I lived in that property, I was a bit more like, I think my house is haunted. Like that stuff started coming off again. Anyway. So we're walking around this fucking lake.
00:17:26
Speaker
This thing with blue legs, like is flying. Like I, like on the side, like we were on the path. It's about like three, five meters away from us. And I'm like, and I literally like screamed. I was like, Catherine.
00:17:39
Speaker
And I stopped you. And I like put my arm and I was like, this, I was there's a fucking fairy. you Like, I did not say, look at that bug. Look at that bird. I went, there's a fucking fairy.
00:17:52
Speaker
Like my first. Straight to fairy. Straight to fairy. Because it's blue and with wings. Yeah. I've never seen anything that small with little legs. And it and the wings were huge.
00:18:05
Speaker
And that's, like, you know, what like maybe why people think fairies exist. Yeah. You know, for fucking real. I've realised, like, anyone that's been like, I saw a fairie, I'm like, it was a locust. Google it. Like, they actually have blue bellies, some of them, and they're huge. So they look like little humans.
00:18:21
Speaker
And when they fly, their little legs are, like, dangling underneath them. I wanted it to be fairy so bad, Catherine. my God. So bad. So, like, literally โ€“ like was in a state of anxiety or something. And i was like, oh my God. But the thing that was most outrageous was that I thought no one was around us. So me and you were having this conversation.
00:18:45
Speaker
Like, I'm like, I thought it was Conversation are you just telling me you've seen a fairy and I'm like, oh, really? you were probably more hungover than me and were hiding it but pretending you were okay. Yeah, that sounds about right.
00:18:56
Speaker
but So, yeah, I just like looked at this thing and i was like, oh, my God, I thought it was a fairy, Catherine. Oh, my God, it's just a cross. It all just happened like... Yeah, like it was real quick and then I just remember coming down of this state of like, but I wanted it to be a fairy kind of thing and this family was behind us and I just knew that they'd heard every...
00:19:16
Speaker
Like, I knew they had heard every word of it, Catherine. Just these two hungover. what Oh, like 20-somethings just walking around a lake, seeing a fucking grasshopper. And the way you would have said it would have been like, yeah, because I was in belief. I was like, I am seeing it. Because I literally was like, Catherine, are seeing this? Like, I can't believe you don't remember this. This is like paining me. Like, I'm starting to, it's, you know, I don't know.
00:19:40
Speaker
I've got like a vague like, oh, yeah, I think that is something that happened. But I do not have this remember, <unk> like, I don't have this memory of being like, yeah, Erin's a fucking fairy. Like, yeah that's not in my head. Yeah, I was the one who thought I saw it. But, like, yeah, like, try Google. I wonder if we can show what it looked like. But if you โ€“ yeah. we Google, like, blue locust people. Like, I literally spent the whole night. Because there's still people. Blue locust fairies?
00:20:09
Speaker
Yeah, blue locust flying some shit. And then just look at it and tell me it doesn't look like a Our Google skills are, like, second to none. Oh, like, yeah, so colourful. Yeah.
00:20:20
Speaker
And, like, their little legs. Yeah, their legs. Yeah. Kind of like, um... The grasshoppers of like Bugs Life. Yes. Like, yeah you know, yeah they've got their big legs and they're walking around. They're like, ooh. Yeah. It was the biggest thing I've ever ever seen and the blue made it look like it was a fairy. and Yeah.
00:20:35
Speaker
Absolutely. Erin Valid. There you go. in Yeah, dude, you know what? I feel that. I feel that hard. um Look it up, guys. Very pretty. Blue winged locust. Very pretty.
00:20:47
Speaker
So that is my um story about that. was going to say, if you want me to like cover some of your embarrassment. Oh, yeah. like cause you know what I just this is just like a bit of a no, it's got nothing to do with you. It's got everything to do with me.
00:21:04
Speaker
But it just makes me feel a bit like sorry for myself. or like Not sorry for myself, just like how, like, naive and isza she ah hugging EC doll.
00:21:15
Speaker
It just makes me go, i'm so i was so... How do I say it? I don't even know. You tell me. I'll tell this story and you'll probably just go, oh.
00:21:26
Speaker
So when I studied at uni, like hated everything about it, I just did like a really generic communications degree.

Crop Circles: Mysteries and Theories

00:21:33
Speaker
I lasted a year and I dropped out. Like I was like, this ain't for me.
00:21:36
Speaker
But there was. Catherine needed more artistes. Yes. I needed the more design. More creative. But, yeah, one of the dumb, like, subjects you had to cover was just, like, research, like how to research.
00:21:49
Speaker
Oh, right. Yeah, like, so how to use Google. But I studied it and i've um'm so I've still come out the worst Googler. Like, I was known as someone that would just put a whole sentence into Google. See? we're the same. I'm like, how do you feel, Google, about if I looked up this?
00:22:02
Speaker
Yes. Google, tell me. You were ready for AI before it even existed. Exactly. We just had stuff in the game. Whereas, like, you you learn to do, like, you know, um keywords, like blah, blah, blah, plus, blah, blah, blah, equal. You know, you can do, like, plus and you can do maths with words and get some cool โ€“ anyway.
00:22:19
Speaker
So one of the research, like, put your skills of research into action โ€“ on ah any topic you you would like and, like, you know, you have to fact check it and do your, what is it, bibliography? oh You know, like, yeah, you reference yeah references.
00:22:34
Speaker
And you weren't allowed to use Wikipedia, you know. Back in the day you had to look at a book. yeah It just, if we're going to, like, talk about this is last episode and just, like, what brought us to just talk about all this dumb shit is it's like we've just always inherently been interested in this stuff, right?
00:22:48
Speaker
yeah So this assignment was, like, just choose something you're passionate about and, like, do a deep dive. Yeah. And like, you know, factual stuff, you know, like I should have i like i shouldve unlike i should have done like birds, you know, they they exist, they're real.
00:23:04
Speaker
Or like I could have done, I don't know, a world war or like a a moment in time, but you know, nothing. at the time wasn't as interesting as drum roll crop circles oh katherine this is so good i did my assignment i passed i still passed but i just specifically remember look back and i'm like are crop circles based on fact are they real probably not and here i am just like here's all the data yeah
00:23:37
Speaker
this is I've collected the data and the science and everything around crop circle typewriter. Little Catherine just like โ€“ little 17-year-old Catherine, crop circle. I'm just so stoked.
00:23:48
Speaker
so seventeen year old catholic
00:23:51
Speaker
just so sty And like everyone else is like, but like no one saw, like, you know, no one, you didn't you didn't share what you did, but like the person marking it, obviously, can you imagine like this little teacher just being like, who the fuck people like the industrial revolution? shit Van Gogh, good Van Gogh. But she did just say when she like gave me my mark back in the thing, she was like, very interesting topic.
00:24:14
Speaker
So it wasn't like in a rude way, but it maybe it was just like refreshing finally for her to see something that wasn't everything else. But I was still like, yeah. But then i think her just saying that kind of made me do like a flashback of like, why did I choose this?
00:24:27
Speaker
Why? he Like I was a bit mortified. In what tone did did she say it didn Well, like just a bit of a teacher, like very interesting topic, you know, that kind of like observation. Oh, which kind like Catherine. Interesting topic. Don't do again.
00:24:40
Speaker
Would you remember your grade? or like I passed, but like like anything in life, I scraped through.
00:24:49
Speaker
ah It's true. It's so true. But, like, I just think, I just think, in conclusion, yeah and looking back at crop circles and looking at where we are, like, we're still interested. We've just always been interested in this shit. Yeah.
00:25:03
Speaker
But, like, other people, it's not, like, common stuff that other people read about. Yes. And I think my naivety was like, yeah. Do you also think I'm just going to report on this?
00:25:15
Speaker
Because I'm so innocent. I'm so, like, naive. I don't know. i like What am I trying to say? no, no. Like, I think โ€“ I love that like even back then, like as a what, you would have been 17?
00:25:27
Speaker
like Like just? Just 18? Like just eighteen like i just love that like. even back then you were like, I'm ready to deep dive and hyper-focus on crop circles. And they โ€“ and finally โ€“ and I reckon it's just like, finally I'm in university and I get to do what I want to do because, it's not โ€“ A little bit, yeah. And I'm going to choose this fucking topic and I'm going to pass.
00:25:49
Speaker
And it did take me a while to choose my topic because yeah not a lot was interesting at other than like fucking drinking coldies and yes drinking fucking twoies dry โ€“ Yeah, twoies that are dry going out.
00:26:00
Speaker
You know, I was like โ€“ Yeah, crop circles. we were You were well into that world. and Yeah, aliens. You were more into aliens, crop circles. was definitely at that stage of life, I was like well read on serial killers. Like I remember buying books on Netflix. Yeah, but I did too. But you did, yeah. bought them and then you would read them. And then I would read them. And probably like half of the book, let's be honest. Whereas I was just like, oh, smashing this. Yeah, true.
00:26:27
Speaker
yeah That was our morbid curiosity, which I, you know, as ah as a female nowadays, don't really want to read that stuff. No, I'm glad I got it out the way. Yeah. Because I feel like it's prepared me as an adult female to just pay attention to.
00:26:40
Speaker
Spot a dodgy bloke. Spot a dodgy bloke. Yeah. Not even because they'll get you because they're the ones that you don't suspect. Anyway. So, yeah, I just thought that was worth telling. You know, you spot fairies. I'm admitting reports on crop circles. We all have have our moments.
00:26:56
Speaker
But I love that. They're like pick a topic to research on and it's one that can't. You can't raise really. Exactly. And it was like. but but and and it's And it's based in a class that's like you have to pass from research.
00:27:08
Speaker
Like it hurts my heart. It hurts my heart. You're like walking into class with tinfoil hat. Yeah, exactly. ah but Oh, my God. So, yeah, I just think um we all need to forgive ourselves um when we're young, naive and like we want to believe so badly. Yeah. Like it's okay to have a moment where you look back and go, oh, fuck, that was a bit dumb.
00:27:28
Speaker
um Because I don't really believe in crop circles like a lot. Let's go into crop circles. Yeah, let's go crop circles. Because they're like, it's nature, high strangeness, if we're going to like throw it back to that. So like I want to know if when you were researching it, did you โ€“ you retain anything you remember? I do, Catherine. My memory is insane. Like I've realised this over time. Like I've sat with friends and they're how do you remember shit that happened? And I was like, I don't know. I literally have held on to some bullshit. have lot โ€“ No, like remember like life experiences, but like I can't remember what I โ€“ well, I mean like I might remember tidbits.
00:28:02
Speaker
Yeah. But do you remember researching it and being like this shit's real? Like what what was your intention going into it? Yeah, that's actually a good question. did you literally want to โ€“ yeah. um I was โ€“ yeah. See, I โ€“ Really think about this. i Yeah, no. i This is true though. I went down that rabbit hole because I was interested in it and I didn't know.
00:28:25
Speaker
So, and maybe that was part of the brief, like it's something you don't you don't know much about. So, you know, use Google, right, and read a book. And I got books out and everything. And when I was reading it, like i am not I'm not going lie, like
00:28:40
Speaker
i think I did cover like the the the alien side and then the โ€“ like because there are theories, see I do remember things, of it of them being like just electromagnetic pulses in the ground that can kind of cause these patterns.
00:28:55
Speaker
Wow, because I don't know any of this shit. I haven't read it yet. There Something comes out. and I'll fact check my own shit as well. believe yeah. But, um yeah, I think there's a bit of that. And then there's people on tractors like just doing doing the dirty. but Okay, do you think people have enough fucking time it?
00:29:11
Speaker
Not to do all of them. I agree. But there's probably some dodgy ones out there. And I do โ€“ yeah, there are. And then I do think โ€“ yeah, I do think there's just ways that electromagnetic fields โ€“ I don't know. Should we take a break?
00:29:26
Speaker
Maybe we put a little spooky music on. Yeah, we'll put some spooky inter interim. We'll have a little break because I need to blow my nose. Yep. And fact check crop circles and maybe we'll get โ€“ about you yeah ah because I'm curious I've actually never looked in crop circles and I think there's something that look quite interesting and like what the hell is that all about exactly yeah all right we'll be ah be right back guys
00:29:53
Speaker
Okay, we're back. Thank you for the break, girls. Yeah, we were just going to โ€“ I just did the fact check. The old rock circles? Yeah, fuck. I was like Signals, but then i was thinking Signs, you know, like the movie. Yes, guys, have you seen the movie Signs?
00:30:08
Speaker
That was groundbreaking at the time, like seeing the alien. Yes. Terrifying. Terrifying. It was one of those movies where when I โ€“ saw this the scene like if you've seen it like it's the the scene where they're where i'm sure if you watch it now you'd be like oh but at the time the time he was like whoa like shivers down my spine yeah it was creepy anyway i just wanted to check the facts on the electromagnetic fields yes um and really i think it was just people
00:30:39
Speaker
in the 60s with boards, snapping cane. Doing what? Like having a good old time. I don't know. I think there's too many out there for them all to be people. Yeah. But I think a lot of them were were people. And then, you know, some of the some of the theories that they can't prove, this the they talked about like the snap in the fields, like the snap of the wheat or barley or whatever the fuck the field is.
00:31:05
Speaker
um it it'll bend a certain way or like snap a certain way if it's but from a board. And then if it's snapping a different way, it's like from like geometric like palpitations in the earth or something. right So what what are these geometric palpitations though? I'm still spitting shit. like this This is because we need, this is when we take it. By the way, when I Googled this, talk about research, crop circles are just electromagnetic fields?
00:31:32
Speaker
Question mark. And then the overview, the AI overview is like, no crop circles are not just electric magnetic fields. I'm like, oh, fuck off. Sorry. They're so aggressive. Like they're not built for kindness, are they? They don't. ah so Yeah. um Anomalies like ion plasma vor vortices.
00:31:50
Speaker
Right. Vortex? What is that word? Vortices. Vortices. yeah it's not a vortex. I don't know. ah we sound so dumb. And that may play a role in the silent formation. The idea that they are only electromagnetic fields is not a widely accepted scientific explanation.
00:32:07
Speaker
It seems so angry at the thought of it. don' you So here's a question about ai right? So that was the first answer that came up. If you kept going down the rabbit hole of believing crop circles are real, do you think the AI will change on your phone? To be like, some say aliens are trying to tell humans about crop circles. Surely they know the shit that I watch and they would have already sent me that.
00:32:33
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know, guys. Like, art is a motivation for crop circles. true if They get it done well. Like... like there's a lack of scientific proof for natural causes which is kind of wild so like that is kind of wild in itself because it's like well then it's either people or aliens yes because like they're saying natural causes and then all this like it could be electromagnetic fields but like no one studied that kind of earth science enough to be like this is what it does Yeah.
00:32:59
Speaker
So that's kind of crazy. That is crazy. And our cat, my cat just ran in a really weird way and I'm not ah okay with that. yeah But yeah, so. I'm not okay with it either. Just freaking me out a bit. She's having a play. She's just having a play.
00:33:14
Speaker
Oh, there she is. So crop circles, iric I reckon want to look into them more. Like you've made me curious about them. Yeah, I think there's definitely books. But again, if they're like from the 1970s when it was all happening, then that like the the books are all probably the ones that I used in my report. were Like, oh my God, aliens. like um But now it's like.
00:33:37
Speaker
I think we've mentioned this before. It's just cool when the world ages. What? When the world ages and more knowledge comes to us, that we like then there's new information revealed and then we're like, oh, well, this isn't an an anomaly anymore. Yeah, true.
00:33:52
Speaker
Yes. We do โ€“ this is a theme that comes up in all of our episodes. We're always just like, but are we going to โ€“ When we were into it, was facts and now we're older. But like โ€“ but like Oh, my God, I got the fucking year don't know, Catherine. I don't know. I think we were on different levels of aliens. In the phenomenon of the crop circles began. and Stuff is in my brain. yeah Yeah. Yeah, lo but also, like, I just think I don't give myself enough credit for the information that I do have stored in sorry, you were just checking about the date. oh I just noticed the fact that, like,
00:34:26
Speaker
Because I said fucking 1970s. And the way I say it is so nonchalant that I've just made it up. And then I gaslight myself thinking, oh, can't be the 1970s. Yeah, no shit. I really want to look into Project Blue Book. Like I know there's other podcasts that like podcasts that go into it like deeply, but I'm curious now around crop circles starting the 1970s when that book was released and High Strangers was talked about and why and what is it all about.
00:34:50
Speaker
Is it military yeah experiments and they're like hiding it with UFOs? really big um the in the 1970s, which, I mean, yeah. Very interesting. So interesting.
00:35:02
Speaker
Anyway, we'll put that to bed now. Yeah. But, yeah, it'd be interesting. I wonder if you guys have ever ever thought about UFO crop circles because it's one of those Ever done a report on it? Let's compare and contrast.
00:35:12
Speaker
Ever done a report on it and passed? and Ever done a report on it and university? Yeah. Let's compare and contrast. How did you write a whole essay on it? Like, or was it just because it was a research essay? I just am blown away. Yeah, just have to break it down in different subjects and, you know, like crop circles theory one, theory two. Oh, I love it, Catherine. So gnomes.
00:35:36
Speaker
So I did research on gnomes and it's probably better than my forest stuff. Hey, that shepherd walking into the forest though with his 200 sheep, where'd he go? What's going on there?
00:35:50
Speaker
We won't know. so he might come back. You could come back. Here we go. Look at this. Holy shit. Yeah, good little notes. So I really excited. That's why, like, every episode I was like, and we're going to do, like, it's going to be, like, High Strangers, like, Forest episode. Like, Catherine's getting ready because I was so excited to talk about gnomes.
00:36:08
Speaker
And we will do folklore. We'll just, yeah, we'll keep going. Like, you know, again, we're just skimming the top. Skimming. Intro, like, Intro to gnomes. Yeah. So,

Folklore: Gnomes and Nature

00:36:18
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right. So when I Googled what are gnomes all about, i found out that gnomes are symbols of earth and nature and they represent the harmony and balance found in the natural world. oh my God, that's so cute. So that's interesting, right? Yeah.
00:36:33
Speaker
So talk about... It's like an elemental... Yeah, an elemental being. So like, but I'm like, what is it about the spirit world of nature? So like gnomes are part of nature? yeah So... Because they live out in nature. In nature. Forests.
00:36:46
Speaker
Circle. and Full circle. Yeah, yeah. Forests. Forests. Spooky forests. Gnomes. i've i'm Elemental. I'm like, I'm picking up on something here, guys. Trust me, this is going... No, I'm... But like... I'm like... I'm into this.
00:36:59
Speaker
do like, do gnomes, are they of the same texture Bigfoot? So you if you listen to our Bigfoot episode, guys, we talk about how we believe. Our theory. Our mad. Yeah. Our mad theory is that it's not of earth. Yeah.
00:37:16
Speaker
And it like has portals and. That is more believable than it being like a physical beast monkey man. Yeah. We just think it can dabble in a few different dimensions. yeah Just popping in, popping out. Yeah.
00:37:28
Speaker
So I'm like gnomes, right? Is that a similar thing? But I don't know if that feels real to me or is it so, has it been talked about for so long but Interdimensional though, like it's not of our world and pops in and out.
00:37:43
Speaker
Interdimensional. But where where where is it living and why does it come to earth and why is it talked about by humans? Do what guys? Like, do you guys think of this deeply about notes? This is how deep we get sometimes, which is like, why is it like, it's like anything, like why do we have stories about dragons, like imagination and all that sort of stuff.
00:38:02
Speaker
But then like, you know, when it's like hundreds and thousands of years old, like folklore, like, yes. yeah So like dragons to me is definitely of like an imaginary Like, you know, if we're weff we look at this, like someone just thought of this and they're just like, rah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. but like we've make Dragons are imagining and and imagination land and then like, but gnomes are like, where the fuck did you come from? Yeah.
00:38:26
Speaker
and And like, is it like if we're going dovetail into folklore, people are sitting around campfires, they're like gnomes, gnomes did this, gnomes do that, and they don't have โ€“ I hope people are following me here, but, like, they don't have pens and papers way back then, like but like, pencils to draw gnomes.
00:38:47
Speaker
They're just describing these beings and then that story gets told of this person. Poor people without fucking pencils. Yeah. Haven't invented them yet. And then, you know, Industrial Revolution hasn't happened yet. There's no such thing as, like, stuffed toys. So, you know, there's no, like, businesses with, like, creative marketing. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I do. So it becomes this, like, tale and then, like, does that โ€“ Because stories were the marketing. Yeah, stories were the fun and the play. So, like, does that then create something, if it's talked about so much in a certain place, does that create so much energy?
00:39:16
Speaker
ah yes, this is a good theory. Yeah, do know what Like, it's talked about, it's talked about, and it's like, and it does this, and it does this, and it's like, and then all of a sudden, boop, boop, like, you've, like, thought formed it into reality. I don't know, it's just something interesting that I think about because I'm like, this wasn't talked about very much, this this little โ€“ And yeah, that was Willow, if you heard that. She just once some attention because she doesn't like that she's not being talked about.
00:39:37
Speaker
But yeah, like... We have like lots of like Furbies. Can you imagine if a Furby was talked about for tens of thousands of years?
00:39:48
Speaker
People would be like, i saw a fucking Furby in the forest. But it's like that forest was maybe where the Furby was talked about and it's like, hello. Yeah, yeah. But now it's like a Furby was talked about for probably a year in a marketing office and we have a toy of it. Yeah.
00:40:02
Speaker
True. Do you know what mean? Yeah, yeah, This is really like, yeah, it's interesting. kind of enjoying this yeah random theory. I do like this theory. And it's like in conclusion in conclusion of the gnome imagination. Oh, yeah. We want to talk about them so much that they they're created.
00:40:15
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, we do sound like we're on crack. We do. wait this is like it's It's an interesting thought. Yeah. But I like that. I like that theory. Elemental. So, yeah, that was me kind of just like meandering

Season Reflection and Gratitude

00:40:27
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in a thought.
00:40:27
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Yeah. So in conclusion, thank you guys. Thank you. season has been great. We actually finished a season. Yeah, I know. high five.
00:40:39
Speaker
And we know it's a slow burn, but if we keep loving what we're talking about, we're not going to stop. Exactly. um Thanks for coming along for the ride. Thank you for listening.
00:40:51
Speaker
thanks for listening. Bye. Bye. Bye.