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CLL#14 - Book of Boba Fett SWPD2022
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Welcome to a very special episode of Captains’ Logs and Lightsabers as we commemorate Star Wars Podcast Day 2022! On February 7, 1999, the first episode of Jedi Talk was released. This was the very first podcast to discuss Star Wars. With this episode, we honor the contributions to fandom that Jedi Talk made by keeping the conversation centered around Star Wars. On episode 14 of CLL, Jonathan and Chris discuss their thoughts on the first 6 episodes of The Book of Boba Fett. Instead of a full breakdown of each episode, the boys discuss their favorite things about each episode as well as address anything that didn’t work for them in each episode. No news, no Star Trek this week….just BoBF!
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Chapters
0:00 Introduction
0:44 What is Star Wars Podcast Day
2:00 How Did You Geek This Week?
8:50 Episode Topic Introduction
9:25 Chapter One
14:47 Chapter Two
21:03 Chapter Three
30:20 Chapter Four
35:25 Chapter Five
43:40 Chapter Six
48:45 Wildly Inaccurate Predictions/Outro
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Transcript
Introduction and Theme Setting
00:00:00
Speaker
Captain's logs. I'm Solo. I'm Captain and Millennium Falcon. This is Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the Federation starship Enterprise. I already have one message from Starfleet coming in on secured channel.
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You're listening to Captain's Logs and Lightsabers, part of the Geek News Now Podcast Network.
Star Wars Podcast Day and Jedi Talk Anniversary
00:00:34
Speaker
Welcome to a very special episode of Captain's Logs and Lightsabers. My name is Jonathan, and as always, I'm joined by my co-host, Chris. So before we get into our discussion today, the entire reason why our podcast exists is because
00:00:49
Speaker
We are commemorating the 23rd anniversary of Jedi Talk, which was the very first Star Wars-focused podcast. They released their very first episode February 7th,
00:01:00
Speaker
1999. So this is a huge deal. We are participating once again in Star Wars Podcast Day.
Participating in Star Wars Podcast Day and New Shows Discussion
00:01:09
Speaker
This is the second year Star Wars Podcast Day has existed and it's a way to recognize the trailblazers in our fandom that decided to start a podcast to talk about Star Wars. So we participated last year and we discussed all of the many new Star Wars shows that are coming to Disney Plus over the next several years.
00:01:26
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Now we've seen some of those projects come to life, we've seen them in various forms of filming or production, and we've seen some of them drop off the radar entirely. But one show
00:01:39
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that at the time that we're recording this episode has just one single episode left to air. And that happens to be the topic we're discussing today. However, before we get into our main discussion, I want to reintroduce my co-host for Captain's Logs and Lightsabers, Chris.
Geeky Activities Segment
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And I'm also simultaneously going to introduce a new segment on the show where we get to talk about the things that we geeked out about since the last recording.
00:02:08
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outside of Star Trek and Star Wars. Uh, we're calling it, how did you geek this week? So without further ado, Chris, how did you geek this week? Well, first of all, it's nice to be talking with you again, Jonathan, and hello to the audience. I'm happy to be here and I'm really looking forward to discussing this week's episode. So in terms of how did I geek this week? Well, I actually went to see the brand new movie Moonfall.
00:02:34
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If those of you who don't know what moon falls about, it's a movie that just came out. I think it's through Lionsgate. And basically what it talks about is the moon starts to fall from its orbit and starts heading to Earth. So basically society panics and NASA has to come together basically and work on getting up to the moon and trying to figure out what's going on and stop it and save human civilization as we know it.
00:03:01
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So that was pretty much it. Halle Berry is one of the stars in it. She did a wonderful job. I can't remember the name of the other one. I think the last name was Wilson. I think Patrick Wilson, I believe the name, his name was, was the other lead. And then there was a whole slew of other actors that I've never really seen before, but did really wonderful job in the story. So I really loved the movie.
00:03:25
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Basically, I got a feel of a lot of nostalgia from the movie from past movies over the last 30 years. It definitely had the feel of Independence Day, the feel of Armageddon, the feel of deep impact. And it definitely had some pieces of the Terminator franchise all mixed in. So you have four different franchises going on with the basic plot of the storyline and the pacing. There was also some feeling of 2012 and there was the day
Outlander Enthusiasm
00:03:53
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the world would end tomorrow. I can't remember the day. There was some sort of natural disaster movie due to global pollution. I can't remember what it was called. The day after tomorrow, I think it was called. I think you're right. Yeah, so that one got kind of mixed in. Then in terms of the villain of the movie, basically,
00:04:14
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There was a feeling of the Terminator vibe again, but without giving too much away, it also had a strong feel of the villain from the second season of Star Trek Discovery and the villain of the first season of Star Trek Picard.
00:04:29
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So it was yeah, so it was very, very interesting. There were again, you saw themes from different movies kind of stuff going on. And one of my thoughts was is, oh, we're going down this route again with something with the story toward the end. But it was it was freshly done with the mix. The acting was very, very good. You actually this is one of those movies that you actually started to care about the characters. You don't seem to see a lot of that nowadays, like where you used to be able to feel like an attachment to the characters like an alien and aliens.
00:04:59
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But then later on down the road, you watch like alien resurrection and they're all just kind of expendable characters. You know, there's no connection. This movie, you actually feel connection with them. So I highly recommend going and seeing it if you're into any kind of outer space movie or, you know, any kind of like apocalyptic kind of movies that are coming out. Go see it. It's for you. Nice, nice.
00:05:21
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So how about you? How did you geek out this week? So a couple things. Um, I know we were talking pre-show Chris. I am hard into the, uh, wordle craze that everybody seems to be sharing on social media. Um, it's a great exercise, you know, coming up, trying to come up with that five letter word every day, um, keeping your streak going, all of that stuff. I'm into that. Also the other thing that I really got into this week.
00:05:47
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I started watching a new show on on stars. It's a It is the It is the newest show from Ronald D Moore and Iris Stephen bear which Trek fans will instantly recognize that duo as the powerhouse behind Star Trek deep space 9 Now they've reunited as a team and they worked on the first couple seasons of Outlander so outlander if you're not familiar with it and
00:06:15
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is a historical drama. So the main character is Claire. She is a combat nurse. She's enlisted in the British Army and her husband is as well. And they have a time together where they're not, you know, on separate assignment. So they decide to take a second honeymoon to Scotland where her husband, Frank, can track his history, his history through Scotland, through the Highlander clans and so on.
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But something happens. They stumble upon this ritual of women chanting around a stone structure. Kind of sort of looks like Stonehenge, but not. There's a focal stone in the center and a ring of stones around it. These women are singing and chanting with lanterns and
00:07:10
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at some point Claire decides to go back to the sites where this ritual was taking place and she picks a flower and then all of a sudden she picks a flower she touches the rock in the center and she's transported back in time to 1743 so she's a 20th century woman
00:07:30
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Combat nurse very used to speaking her mind now. She has to basically find a way to assimilate into a society that is 200 years behind The sensibilities of the 20th century so it's very very interesting very cool historical drama really puts a Big focus on Scotland, which we don't get a lot of content in Scotland in popular media, which is great. So yeah
00:07:58
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It's a little sci-fi, a little historical drama. It's a really good show, but I will say it is not for the family. It is on stars, so it is a premium cable show. So there will be a fair bit of language, nudity, and sex throughout the show. So definitely not something to watch with the kids, but.
00:08:16
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a really good show nonetheless. Well, that sounds really exciting. That makes me just want to get stars and just start to check it out. It sounds very fascinating and I need to start expanding my kind of nerdism with some of the stuff that I watch. So I think I'm going to be picking your brain for good shows to start watching. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's definitely something you and Brandy can get into as a couple.
00:08:40
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Absolutely. That'd be great. I'd love that. Yeah. Anything we can do to share time together. Um, so cool. Yeah. So, uh, on that note, let's move on to our feature
The Book of Boba Fett Series Discussion
00:08:52
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discussion. The reason why we're here today. So as you may have been able to guess from my not so subtle hint earlier, we are talking about the first six episodes of the book of Boba Fett.
00:09:02
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We're not going to analyze every single episode with a thorough breakdown. Chris and I are just going to simply be discussing our favorite parts of each episode and then any moments that just may not have worked for us. And we're going to take an episode by episode. But like I said, it's not going to be a huge breakdown scene by scene. Lastly, I think we're going to attempt to make some predictions about what we think will happen in the finale episode. And I'm sure our guesses will be totally incorrect and way off the mark. So.
00:09:30
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Without further ado, chapter one, stranger in a strange land. So we didn't get a whole lot of info or synopsis of this episode. We just get the cryptic words Boba holds court. So Chris, what did you like about chapter one of the Book of Boba Fett?
00:09:51
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Well, the first part that I really enjoyed was definitely watching him inside the Starlight Pit and him getting himself out of there. I know that they had talked about him being escaping the Starlight in some of the past legend stories in the books, but to actually get to see the inside and see the guts
00:10:08
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and see that stormtrooper stuck in there. And then him being able to finally work his way out and see all that acid and everything on his suit. I thought that was fascinating to actually get to see
00:10:22
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him actually get out and how he was able to escape when so many others weren't able to. So that was pretty a fun experience. Also, I think getting him involved with the Tuscans was a pretty good story, too, to kind of give him a new backstory of kind of filling in the gaps or starting to fill in the gaps of what happened to him between Return of the Jedi and when we saw him in the Mandalorian.
00:10:44
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You know, it basically he started out basically as their slave, as their prisoner, and he basically earned their respect. And so it made me very interested in seeing how that was going to kind of show and change and see a little bit of what Tusken society was like. You know, so those are the things that I really enjoyed about it. How about you? Yeah, I echo your exact same feelings about the episode. I really, you know, as far as the the Sarlacc pit escape,
00:11:14
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that's something that I've kind of been envisioning for years. And then of course, you know, all of the expanded universe novels kind of had a take on how Boba Fett escaped. Uh, you had that, you know, you, you had the book tales of the bounty hunters where you kind of get that story, but, and then yes, everything with the Tuscans was, and his, uh, and the fact that Boba was rescued by them. And then they kind of treat him, you know,
00:11:40
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as a prisoner for a while until he begins to prove himself. I know this is basically the plot of Dances with Wolves, but I don't care. I loved
Boba Fett's Escape and Tusken Raiders
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it. I thought it was fantastic. And the other thing, who would have thought that Droopy McCool would survive the explosion of Jabba's sail barge? I don't know how he got off that sail barge before it exploded in Return of the Jedi, but I'm happy that he did. And you know what?
00:12:10
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a guy's got to work. So, you know, he found his next gig at, uh, at, uh, sanctuary, um, in Moss Espa. So good for him. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. I was wondering the same thing, how he got away. I looked at him for a second. I was like, I recognize this character and then it hit me who, who it was. So you're absolutely right. That, you know, how did he end up getting off the sale board? But I guess it was an off screen moment to talk about.
00:12:38
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The only thing that I didn't like about the episode and it was more kind of flowing into the other episodes. I'm not one of those big fans of storytelling where you're showing a story and then all of a sudden you backtrack to a flashback.
00:12:53
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that takes up most of the episode. Now, as I've gotten through the season up into the last episode, it's grown on me as to the reason why they spent so much time showing that stuff with the Tusken Raiders. It makes more sense now of everything as it's come together. But my first viewing of that episode and in two and three was, oh great, they're taking up, there's a story that's developing, now we're backtracking to the past.
00:13:19
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And I see that a lot in a lot more modern storytelling. I saw a lot of it in Battlestar Galactica, and it used to drive me nuts there as well. But, I mean, really, that's the only complaint. I loved the first episode. I thought it was great. Yeah. I mean, that was kind of the whole hook of loss, though, too, was the flashbacks. And then later, plot twist, flash forwards.
00:13:41
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Exactly, exactly. So yeah, I'm more of a linear kind of person with a story. But I mean, I, like I said, as the seasons going on, it made sense. Yeah, yeah. Now, the one thing that I didn't care for, maybe it's just me, I don't know, I wasn't a fan of
00:13:57
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the mayor's major domo. The bureaucratic humor just didn't land with me. I'm sure some people, it was hilarious. You loved it. It was one thing that fell flat for me.
00:14:12
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I'm the guy that cracks up at Poe Dameron's Your Mom joke to General Hux in The Last Jedi. So I don't know what that says about me, but... No, I got you. As I was doing my rewatch, I felt the same way about him. He's just a typical slimy bureaucrat that'll say anything to save his own butt, basically. And with the current political climate where everybody's so politically divided, it was kind of like watching the news and it was kind of like, I don't really need to see that. Yeah.
00:14:41
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So I got you on that, that makes perfect sense. Yep.
Storytelling Techniques and Flashbacks
00:14:45
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All right. Um, minor gripes, of course, from both of us, but overall we thought it was a solid episode, I think. All right. Let's, let's move on to chapter two, the tribes of Tatooine. Uh, the description we got for this one, Boba faces new challengers on Tatooine. Uh, I'll start this one off. What I liked about the episode. I thought it was hilarious whenever Fannock had the idea to drop the assassin.
00:15:10
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Into the rancor pit and use that as a is a fakeout to get him to talk. I thought that was brilliant Phoenix and has fantastic ideas. Mm-hmm. Yes. She's a very very bright. She's a very well-written character Yes, without a doubt and make now Ming now when is a wonderful actress and
00:15:29
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She you can tell she's relishing the role because she's you can just do it She talks the sliminess and kind of stuff and the way she it's you can tell that she's enjoying Every single moment of what she the dialogue that she's saying and she's giving her all and feeding into it You know, she's she's just amazing and she's been a wonderful part of this cast without an out. Oh, yeah, absolutely I'm so happy that
00:15:52
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you know, that she survived her incident in the Mandalorian season one, obviously. And that's something that we are going to see a little bit later in a future episode as we continue our discussion here. I thought it was amazing seeing the Hutt twins. I thought that was fantastic. It's so good to see Huts back in live action again. And they looked
00:16:16
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Phenomenal. Yes, they did. I'm sure they were CGI. They had to be CGI, but they still look incredible. Yeah. You couldn't tell if they were really CGI or puppet. That's how good the detailing on them was. It was wonderful. And for me, I like the twins also, but I guess I'm a little biased as I'm an identical twin. So getting to see them being close and working together, it made sense to me.
00:16:40
Speaker
Yeah. I thought it was really cool how their tails were intertwined with one another. Like one was on top of the other. That was cool. They gave you that shot, you know, to really, uh, play up the relationship that they are, uh, as close as siblings can be. Yes, absolutely. I did wonder though, how those soldiers or the slaves or whatever were able to carry those two around. They needed a lot more help. Yeah.
00:17:07
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Go ahead. Yeah, you might think. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I did see they added a nice little touch. The litter was bowing in the center. Hmm. I missed that. I didn't see that. Yeah, I thought that was a cool little touch. And the last thing I really want to talk about, the thing that really I was shocked and amazed to see was the introduction of Black Chrysantines.
00:17:34
Speaker
He is a character from the Darth Vader and Dr. Africa comics. So he's been around in the comics since twenty six twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. Very early on into Disney's purchase of Lucasfilm. He was introduced. So it's really cool to see him make the leap from page to screen. Wonderful. And you know, he's a pretty he's a scary dude. He really is. He's pretty bad.
00:18:03
Speaker
You know, he's he's tough. You don't know what his loyalties are going to be. He has that. Doesn't he have like the space version of brass knuckles that actually has electricity that flows through them? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was pretty intense to be able to see him him fighting. And yeah, I mean, he's he's really something. It's nice to actually see a Wookiee in live action again. We haven't besides Chewbacca. We haven't seen any others. What since solo. Yeah. Some of the spice minds of Kessel. Yep.
00:18:29
Speaker
You know, and before that, what was it? Episode three? I think. Yeah. So yeah. So it was it was a nice touch to bring that in. I didn't know that he was already introduced. I thought he was a brand new character created for the show.
00:18:40
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, now, you know. Yeah. That's what's good about what's good about this show between you and I. I bring the Star Trek knowledge for the most part and you bring in the Star Wars stuff. That's right. Yeah. And we learn different stuff from each other, which is really cool. So I agree with you. I think that those were some of the best parts of the episode. Plus, we were starting to finally get the beginning of the spice syndicate and that spice train. Watching Boba training the Tuscans was really was really awesome.
00:19:06
Speaker
and watching them kind of being involved with technology and learning how to defend themselves. It was interesting seeing the Tuscan culture. We're seeing more about them and what their lives are all about and what traditions that they have rather than just seeing them as these masked enemies that are just violent for whatever reason.
00:19:25
Speaker
seeing some of the leadership and some of how you actually worked on becoming loyal with them. The one part that I didn't like, and it's just because I hate lizards, was the part of the lizard going up his brain. They had that trippy sequence with him getting the branch, but it made perfect sense and he got to make his own gaffey stick out of it. So that was cool.
00:19:45
Speaker
Yeah, it was kind of your classic Vision Quest sequence, you know, that that has been a trope in TV for a while. TV and movies, I should say. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So the one thing that I really didn't care for in this episode was the the sequence where
00:20:07
Speaker
Boba goes to get the the swoop bikes so that they can take down the train I thought it was like I like I like fan service But I thought this was just a bit too deep of a but I thought it was a little bit too heavy-handed like just it didn't have to take place at Anchorhead station and it certainly didn't have to feature cami and fixer from that but
00:20:31
Speaker
one deleted scene in A New Hope. I thought that was just a bit too much. It didn't resonate with me. Mm-hmm. No, and I get you. I mean, you're right. A certain amount of fan service is wonderful, and it's like, all right, this is great. But when it gets to be a little bit too much, you're right. It's kind of like a cringy kind of moment. And I actually feel a lot of that just with Star Trek lower decks. I'm glad that they throw the member berries and everything in, but sometimes it's too much.
00:20:58
Speaker
I mean, you know,
Key Moments and Criticisms in Boba Fett
00:21:00
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so you're right. It gets more cringy after a while rather than kind of feeding and feeding the story and it is fanservice. You're right. So let's move on to chapter three, which is titled the streets of Moss Espa and our synopsis. Boba must deal with two very different threats. All right. What did you like about the episode, Chris?
00:21:20
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I love the introduction of the biker gang. What were they called? The mods? Yeah, the mods. And, you know, I heard a lot of complaints from fans about these characters as being kind of like, well, there were two comparisons. Obviously, there was one to the
00:21:36
Speaker
Power Rangers, obviously with the different colors and they're really young, you know. But another comparison I saw was to the Teletubbies. There was actually a picture of the Teletubbies with Boba Fett standing next to them. You know, people were circulating on social media. And I kind of thought that that was unfair. I saw where a lot of that, the comparisons came from. But Boba needed to have some sort of muscle, some sort of people working for him. And I thought it was really great that he
00:22:05
Speaker
actually worked with them to get like, for example, they were trying to get water and they were being overpriced. And we really knew that. And he actually took their side. He basically told the guy, take the prices down, you know, they're trying to survive. And it actually bought him some loyalty from these five people.
00:22:23
Speaker
You know, I also love the speeders that they introduced, not just the different colors, but they have a very art deco kind of look from the 1930s, which I think is really cool. I love the 1930s, 40s era, basically. And so that was kind of like a plus for me seeing that.
00:22:40
Speaker
And, you know, and also the fact that they're they're enhanced with this cyborg technology. It doesn't take away from them or their individuality like it does with the Borg in Star Trek. It just kind of enhances them and each gives them like their own superpower, basically. Right. So I thought that that was that was a really neat introduction. I thought it's something different that we haven't really seen in Star Wars. We've seen plenty of droids, but this is this was unique.
00:23:03
Speaker
And I think that there's as the episodes have gone on, we've definitely see a strong loyalty and I think we're going to see more of them. They're growing and their enhancements. And I don't know. I just think I just think it was a neat touch and neat addition. How about you? Yeah, I agree with everything you said, everything with the mods. That was straight up tribute and a love letter to George Lucas because he was that's that was his childhood. You know, he grew up in
00:23:31
Speaker
the 50s and 60s. He was a teenager in the 50s and 60s. He was huge into mod culture and huge into cars in general. So that whole thing was just a gigantic love letter to George Lucas and his childhood. So I get the issues with it. The
00:23:51
Speaker
You could say it looks a little weird in Star Wars, but Star Wars has never been afraid to get a little weird, though. Exactly. And you think about it, too. You got how many hundreds of thousands of cultures in the Star Wars universe? It's not all going to look the same. Right. You know, you're going to have special, unique things that come up. And I think this was this was unique for Star Wars. And I'm looking forward to seeing more of them, really. Yeah. I want to kind of go back to the very beginning of the episode before we meet the mods for the first time. And I just want to call out
00:24:18
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how awesome it was to see Steven Root in Star Wars. He is such a phenomenal character actor, and he just lights up the screen every single time he's on it. And you never know what kind of character he's going to play. I mean, his watermonger reminded me a little bit of his Milton character from Office Space, but with a little bit more sinister, not quite as derpy, I guess.
00:24:42
Speaker
But yeah, it just you never know where Stephen Root is going to turn up and to see him in Star Wars. And then and then we get a little bit later, we get Danny Trejo in the same episode. Yes. If you would have told me that I was going to get Stephen Root and Danny Trejo in Star Wars, I wouldn't have believed you if you told me that they were going to appear on the same episode.
00:25:04
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I would have said you're crazy. Yeah. The only thing that could have made it better is having them two on screen together at the same time. But yeah, that that would have been really, really cool. Yeah. You're right about Danny Trejo. He is. He's another one of those versatile, excellent character actors that you've seen him in multiple different things. Right. He always seems to play a tough badass, basically. You know, I mean, I will say even in fanboys, he was kind of like a little bit of a badass by like hitting him up with the drugs.
00:25:33
Speaker
By the way, if you love fanboys, absolutely adore that movie. It's great. But that was the perfect role for him. With that hard-lined face of his and that gruff exterior, to have him bring in the rancor, that fit him perfectly. That being said, that kind of leads to the only thing I didn't like about the episode. It kind of domesticated the rancor.
00:25:57
Speaker
And I guess it's just a minor gripe, but that was part of the fun about the Rancor and Return of the Jedi was, it was this monstrous, scary, evil kind of character that was just, you know, you're gonna get eaten alive by this thing. Now it was kind of, they domesticated it to some degree. Now to some degree, I like it in the fact that it expanded on what a Rancor is, but I think it kind of takes away that
00:26:26
Speaker
some of that scary factor when you, when you now see it, it's going to be like, oh, he's Boba Fett's pet. He's so cute. He's so loyal. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I think that was kind of the point though, wasn't it? I mean, you know, Danny Trejo threw out that line there about how a Rancor imprints on the first human, right? It interacts with. And we get so much about, we had so much backstory in a single line of dialogue about Rancors. It's, it's crazy. You know, we,
00:26:56
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go
Character Development and Dynamics
00:26:57
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back to return of the jedi you know yeah we see the rancor as it's attempting to kill luke uh and and of course before that we see the rancor and the tweelec dancer in java's palace that he punishes you know but after luke kills the rancor and escapes we see the rancor keeper and he is a blubbery mess obviously
00:27:26
Speaker
the rancor keepers who was imprinted, who the rancor was imprinted on. And you just felt so much about their relationship and having this come, you know, 30 plus years later and explain so much in just a single line was incredible. I thought I just thought that was incredible. You know, that's actually you're right. That's a different way of looking at it. I always kind of thought the rancor keeper in Return of the Jedi just loved his evil care, his evil creature.
00:27:55
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So I never really thought much about it. But now that you spin it in that way, that actually makes a lot of sense with it, with the imprinting. So does I guess the question for me was the rank or does it pick who it imprints on? Because my thought was is if it just imprints on the first person it meets, wouldn't it have imprinted on Danny Trejo's character rather than Boba? Oh, no, the ranker was blindfolded. Oh, OK. I must have missed that piece. Yeah, I got you. I got you. Did you happen to catch Pelimato?
00:28:26
Speaker
walking through the background uh it was the scene where we um where we're in moss isley and you see the uh the storm trooper helmets going up on the pikes okay i i did not see her no helen motto and her three pit droids were walking in the background okay moss isley and it was it was a blink and you miss it kind of thing
00:28:50
Speaker
Okay. Well, I'll do a rewatch of that episode and look for that. I did not see that. I love that character though. And I am so glad we're going to talk about her in a little bit. Right. Who would have known that her appearance in, in episode three and chapter three was going to be foreshadowing for something we'd see later. That was crazy.
00:29:07
Speaker
So we're going to wrap this up. I'm going to say the one thing I didn't like about the episode. I'm putting this down as something I didn't like, despite the fact that there was a point to it. I thought that the massacre of the Tuscan Camp, the episode after they talk about how they survived
00:29:29
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the time since the oceans dried up on Tatooine by hiding and not being an aggressive tribe and attacking humans and other civilizations. And then to see them utterly wiped out was just devastating.
00:29:46
Speaker
I think it's all going to make sense by the time we see episode seven. I think it's going to make sense if it's going the way I think it's going. And especially with a certain character that we see introduced in chapter six. But at the time that I was watching it, it just it just seemed like it was total
00:30:05
Speaker
Uh, totally out of left field and, and really, um, even the first, the first rewatch, the second rewatch, or I just, I still didn't like it, but having seen what happens in chapter six, I'm a little more at peace with it. And especially if it goes a certain way. So enough of that. Um, let's move on to chapter four. Uh, chapter four is called the gathering storm. Uh, and the, the, the synopsis that we get for this one is Boba partners with Fennec Shand.
00:30:35
Speaker
So really quick, just the things I liked about the episode. I loved watching Boba and Fennec together infiltrating Jabba's palace to get back Boba's fire spray or Slave 1. You know, fire spray ship, he named it Slave 1. Apparently it's not cool to call it things Slave 1 anymore. It will always be the Slave 1. But if we're insisting on calling it a fire spray, so be it. Anyway, not the point. Not the point. It kind of felt like a spy thriller, you know? Yes.
00:31:05
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Yes. And I love the feeling of how claustrophobic it was, too. You can actually feel it like when the ship was spinning around and they were trying to find an exit out. Right. You kind of feel like, oh, my goodness, how are we going to get out of here? We're trapped. It was almost like the walls were kind of closing in. And then they finally found their exit and.
00:31:22
Speaker
It was great. It's nice to see him flying his ship again. Right, right. And then revisiting the Sarlacc pit was a fun sequence. Obviously, you know, Boba had some short term memory issues and didn't realize or didn't remember coming to and watching the jaw was steal his armor right from his body and then knock him out. Obviously, something affected his brain that he forgot that. So they went they them going back to the Sarlacc pit to try to find his armor was.
00:31:49
Speaker
You know, as the audience were like, why is this happening? But, you know, from Boba's perspective, yeah, he very likely that his armor.
00:31:57
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was still in there. Exactly. That was just a whole cool sequence. Seeing Jabba's destroyed sail barge, that was perfect. I love that. That was one of those fan service moments where it's like, okay, this makes sense. That's really cool. You could have just left it out or explained and said it was just taken away or stripped for parts or whatever. That was a nice touch. Also them attacking the Sarlacc from right above was really, that was pretty cool too.
00:32:24
Speaker
you know, and actually seeing the Sarla kind of finally get what it deserves. Right. Right. And seeing that EMP again, I mean, we originally saw it in Attack of the Clones with Django and Boba. We saw it again in season two of The Mandalorian.
00:32:41
Speaker
being it a third time i mean it's that that sound effect that that visual effect that just gets me every time i love it oh absolutely absolutely yeah the sound effect is super cool it's there's something it's actually to me it's kind of a relaxing sound i don't know i i just think it's really neat um so anything let's see what else did i like about the episode oh i loved um the very beginning of it where phoenix shan is being rebuilt
00:33:04
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. So basically what I was trying to figure out what it was, they replaced like her guts. I mean, what did they fix? I mean, she obviously she took a gut shot. So I I don't know. I can't remember. It's been so long since I've seen that episode of The Mandalorian. But yeah, I think she took a shot to the gut. They probably had to completely rebuild her her entire digestive system, I would think.
00:33:33
Speaker
assuming she still eats, I don't know. Yeah, they never really explained this. I'm hoping we'll see a little bit more of that because in a couple episodes after that, yeah, I know where the shift kind of focused for a little bit those episodes. But yeah, I'd like to see more a little bit about what that does for
Mandalorian Appearances and Cultural Connections
00:33:48
Speaker
her. Does it give her any special powers, any kind of enhancements in any way or what?
00:33:53
Speaker
Or can it be a detriment potentially? Exactly, exactly. So I really enjoyed the mod parlor too. The guy who actually did the work, he looked really cool, I thought. I think they did a nice job with him and just his temperament and the way he worked with the whole situation, I thought was cool. I also like the end of the episode where they're starting to talk more about the pike syndicate and the increasing conflict with the spice
00:34:18
Speaker
being rushed through all of Tatooine. So it's starting, at this point, we're starting to get a buildup of a coming war that's really coming. Right. I mean, that's the thing, you know, the through line of the plot with the Pike Syndicate is all throughout every single episode. Yes. It may not be as in your face until, I mean, we kind of get episode two as a direct conflict between Boba and the Pikes with the train sequence.
00:34:46
Speaker
But I mean, there was mention of it in episode one. There's more talk of it in episode three. There's more. There's plenty of talk about it in episode four. Right. Of course. Right. And in episode two, they were they shot down the pike's train. Right. Right. Yeah. Right. Yep. Exactly. So the through line for the plot has been there all along. I don't understand why.
00:35:09
Speaker
People seem to think especially when once we start talking about the next two chapters people think it's such a tonal shift that the show completely changed Directions and I don't agree with that at all. I I think And and we're gonna talk more about it. So yeah, you know what honestly with with Why why why delay any longer? Let's talk about chapter 5 which through every single person for a complete and total 180
00:35:39
Speaker
probably not expecting to see the Mandalorian, Din Djarin, an entire episode of the Book of Boba Fett. But here we are, Chapter 5, Return of the Mandalorian. What did you like about the episode? And
00:35:55
Speaker
I know it's probably fair to say everything, but... Okay, so the stuff that really sticks out for me. Well, definitely the Darksaber and having that battle with his fellow Mandalorian who was trying to get the Darksaber back. I didn't expect the moment where he was asked by the... it's the Forger, right?
00:36:18
Speaker
Yes, the forger about whether he had removed his helmet or not. And as soon as that happened, I was like, oh, crap, here we go. I knew something was coming. But he stayed honest about it. But he is now shunned by his his clan at this point, which he was called an apostate by the guy he was attacking. You know, so that's I like that because it's it's kind of reminds me of Wharf when he like was dishonored in the next generation in Deep Space Nine and kind of has to work his way back
00:36:48
Speaker
to rebuilding his honor. That's kind of what I'm interested in seeing. I'm really hoping that's going to be a plot thread that goes through season three of the Mandalorian is because they did say something about him going into the waters of some cave on I guess it was Mandalore, but it was all destroyed by the Empire. So is that going to be something he's going to be able to do somehow? You know, right? There's so many mysteries and so many things that this potentially sets up for for season three of the Mandalorian whenever we get it. I
00:37:18
Speaker
I mean, Din Djarin has the Darksaber and the one thing that his covert views above all else as the key to reestablishing Mandalore is control of the Darksaber. We see that in this episode. We also have seen from the mistakes in Rebels and
00:37:43
Speaker
and later on Bo-Katan in Season 2 of The Mandalorian, we find out that the Dark Saber, if it's not one in combat, can potentially lead to the destruction of Mandalore. I mean, the Empire did it. Sabine just gave the Dark Saber to Bo-Katan, and she failed in her mission to reunite
00:38:10
Speaker
Uh, the, the, the, the, the warring clans and, and the society and, and everything about Mandalorian culture. So the one thing that we can agree on is both this cult, for lack of a better word, this covert and the Mandalorians in the, in Bo-Katan Kreese's clan and you know, Casca Reeves and the other guy, they both seem to agree that whoever wields the Darksaber should be the one to reunite Mandalore. Mm-hmm.
00:38:41
Speaker
bringing the two sides together eventually. Whether it'll be in Din Djarin's hands or someone else's, who knows? Right, exactly. Yeah, it's going to be an interesting mystery and I'm sure Season 3 will start to fill that out. The other thing that I really enjoyed about the episode was going back to Moss Eisley and Pele Moto.
00:39:01
Speaker
Again, I think you feel the same way. She's a wonderful. She's a very interesting character. She's smart. She's savvy. She's sassy. She's very confident in her skills. She's got a great sense of humor. The fact that she was able to get an old Naboo starfighter and one starfighter
00:39:19
Speaker
And they actually fixed it up. They kind of retroed it out and added a few extra things. Right. The outboard motor. I thought that was hilarious. And again, that is another callback to George Lucas. That's another love letter to George Lucas because of his, his obsession with car culture growing up in the fifties and sixties. It's, it's there's so much tribute to George in this series. It's, I love it.
00:39:43
Speaker
Anyway, absolutely. Absolutely. But, you know, getting seeing him take that old starfighter out and flying it. And then he had the encounter with the two gentlemen in the X wings. And when he didn't want to answer their questions anymore, he just took off like a bat out of hell. You know, that's typical Mandalorian behavior, in my opinion. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, I'll tell you what, one of the first things I thought of when I saw that finished updated starfighter was I want they're going to make a toy of that guaranteed. And I want it. Yes. Agreed.
00:40:13
Speaker
Absolutely. That was beautiful. The way they redid that. So and then seeing Fennec Shand coming at the very end of the episode, the fact that she was able to get past the security and she just kind of sitting there like Coles a cucumber, you know, like watching like a bat. It was just like just showed how more mysterious, how mysterious and how dangerous really that character can be. You know, maybe we haven't seen all of her abilities of what she can do yet.
00:40:40
Speaker
Yeah, right, right. So I want to call out a couple little things. You hit the main points, you hit the two main things that I was going to talk about. So I'm just going to pull up just a little bit more deeper stuff. So going back to the meat packing facility, that was an obvious reference to the movie Goodfellas. That's a big tribute to Goodfellas there.
00:41:03
Speaker
The fact that Mando basically nearly cut his leg off because he wasn't used to handling the Darksaber and fighting with an energy blade like that. That's something that shows so much attention to detail.
00:41:25
Speaker
And I was just, it makes perfect sense, but if they hadn't had that at all, it still would have made sense. Like, it just makes everything that much more cohesive. The fact that, you know, he got the Darksaber just a bit too close to his leg while he was fighting and ended up nearly chopping his own leg off. I thought that was brilliant. And again, going back to everything with Amy Sedaris as Pelle Motto,
00:41:53
Speaker
I love her so much. The line about dating a Jawa, the line about them being very furry, the fact that she went into speaking perfect Jawaese and then immediately turns to speaking Galactic Basic again.
00:42:13
Speaker
I know, I mean, she's just amazing, just all around as an actress. And she's just created this really fun, interesting character. And I'm hoping that we're going to see a lot more of her in both series, really, you know, maybe get a background story on her. Yeah, absolutely.
00:42:30
Speaker
I know you and I are about the same age. I think I'm about two years older, but do you remember the TV show, Alice? No. Okay. So it was a, it was a comedy that was on for nine seasons on CBS. Linda Lavin played the main character Alice. So she was a waitress in the show. And this character reminds me a lot of Alice physically in the appearance and just in kind of some of the temperament too, you know? So it's just as a side note, if you ever want to check out Alice, it's a good show. Yeah.
00:43:00
Speaker
If I have time, certainly. The other thing that I want to call out is we were talking about it briefly when we were discussing Chapter 4, just the through line of the
Future Outcomes and Themes in Boba Fett
00:43:12
Speaker
Pikes. There's an entire monologue with Pelemato talking about how the Pikes have taken over Mos Eisley and how they've taken over all of Tatooine.
00:43:22
Speaker
we get that connective tissue everything it all is building up to the finale and yes and it is this episode was not as uh as much of a swervis as the initially the internet seemed to think it really it all flows together well and especially works on a re-watch yeah oh absolutely i agree with you all right there sir i guess let's talk about episode six that was kind of doozy
00:43:49
Speaker
I mean, who would have thought chapter six from the desert comes a stranger who would have thought that after the first four episodes of the book of Boba Fett that five and six were going to go this way. Again, everything I loved everything about the episode. But you know, I'm going to pinpoint a couple things that stood out to me above everything else. Okay.
00:44:10
Speaker
I'm sure that none of our regular listeners are going to be able to see this one coming. But for me, seeing Ahsoka was just pure joy and celebration on my part. I mean, I truly, truly did not expect that we were going to be seeing Ahsoka again in live action until her solo series.
00:44:31
Speaker
And then the lines that she gets, the interaction with Luke, the being in the same scene as Luke, telling Din Djarin, telling Mando that she's a friend of the family. And then telling Luke that
00:44:49
Speaker
later that he was just like his father. Oh, oh, so many feelings. I know. I know. Just the connection and the continuity all flowed together. What I'm really hoping for at some point is heat that Luke actually asks Ahsoka about his mother. Right. Because that was a little thing that got brought up in Return of the Jedi and never came back up again. That's true. That's true. I wonder. I hope we get something like that. I do, too. I'm a big Padme fan. So, you know, I'd love to have that her not forgotten.
00:45:19
Speaker
Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and she's not forgotten. I mean, she's she gets explored a lot more in the books. But yeah, I would definitely we definitely need to see more references to Padme in in live action.
00:45:33
Speaker
Absolutely. Absolutely. I agree with you. So I agree with you on that as well. I loved watching Luke training Grogu on how to be a Jedi. I love the whole action scene where he was running with him in the backpack. Definite call back to the Empire Strikes Back. Very similar things. I also love toward the end of the episode where Grogu had to make a decision. Do you want to be a Jedi or do you want to go and be with the Mandalorian? And they kind of left it up in the air like what was going to happen? You know, so.
00:46:04
Speaker
But the thing about that is it's almost as if Luke hasn't learned from the past. Luke made the choice to leave his training on Dagobah to go to Cloud City to attempt to save Han and Leia and Chewie and then the droids.
00:46:27
Speaker
He made that mistake because he was told he had to make a choice. The fact that he's giving Grugu the same choice or a similar choice, go and help your friend or stay and continue your training. I don't know, it just seems like Luke hasn't learned anything. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. I agree with what you're saying. That makes perfect sense. He was given a chance to make that decision and it cost him an arm or hand.
00:46:57
Speaker
You know, and I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. I just kind of thought like, okay, this is probably what most Jedi do. You have to make that decision. Are you going to hold on to your attachments or are you going to let go and focus on the Jedi? That's kind of how I saw it. So hopefully episode seven will explain some of that.
00:47:17
Speaker
Hopefully. Oh my goodness. The big, the big reveal at the end of that episode. Holy cow. How do we not talk about Cad Bane? I know. That's a good point. I was thinking about that when we were recording. I was like, let's not forget Cad Bane.
00:47:32
Speaker
You know, I think we were so excited about seeing Grogu and Luke and Ahsoka. Right. And then we got off on our tangent. Yeah, we forgot to mention that. Well, I'll be honest with you. I love the fact it felt like an old school Western. I love Freetown or Moss Pelgo. It's just this tiny little town. You've got your Marshal, you got your deputy.
00:47:51
Speaker
Got the town bar and the bartender and watching Cad Bane coming in kind of like basically the old Clint Eastwood movies from back in the day. Even down to the, you know, the hat and the sharp shooting and I thought it was really fascinating. And one thing I will say, Cad Bane actually freaked me out when I saw him on screen. He is just the kind of character, the look and the voice and the presence, you know, is chilling.
00:48:19
Speaker
He's clearly a cold, bloody killer. He goes from job to job doing what he needs to do. There's really no loyalty except for the people who are paying him.
00:48:29
Speaker
I I'm I don't know a whole lot about campaign. I know we had seen him on and off throughout the Clone Wars. Right. But so I'm looking very forward to seeing how he kind of ties in with the pike syndicate. Is this just a job for him or is there something deeper going on with him in this role in this job? Right. Right. So my my wild prediction for episode six, I think we're going to find we're going to find out that Boba
00:48:59
Speaker
Boba is going to find out that Cad Bane was the one behind the massacre of the Tusken Village. Okay. That's my wild prediction. I think that is going to be, he is going to be losing the battle against the Pikes because of Cad Bane's involvement. He's not going to be able to rally the amount of troops that he thinks he needs, or there's going to be a scene where we
00:49:26
Speaker
Find out, you know, where, where Boba finds out the Cadbanes involved and he's going to drop a line of dialogue or something that, that he was responsible for the Tuscans. And I think that's what's going to be the thing that gives Boba his second wind and helps him win. That's my wild prediction. Probably completely inaccurate.
00:49:47
Speaker
Right. Yeah, I'm not really sure. I can see the story going both ways. I can obviously see Boba, something happening at the end. There's like a miracle kind of like in the rise of Skywalker when the fleet, the whole galaxy's fleet just kind of happened to arrive. So maybe the cavalry will come in and help. There's definitely going to be a lot of issues going on because they're clearly outnumbered by the pikes and their followers. Oh, for sure.
00:50:13
Speaker
Yeah. Um, my guess is I'm predicting that somehow they're going to pull off a victory, but we're going to get some sort of cliffhanger twist at the end, whether it's at the end of the episode or like after credits, it's going to be like, it's going to make us go all crap. Now we got to wait for season two and see what happens. So yeah, it'll, it's going to be fun. I can't wait to watch. After seeing episode seven, I'm going to do my second rewatch and watch every set, all seven episodes back to back to back to back. I agree.
00:50:43
Speaker
And I want to see how it all flows together and see if that through line really does carry the whole show.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:50:50
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Hey, we've discussed the first six episodes of the Book of Boba Fett. Episode seven is available at the time that we're recording this. Go watch it. I think we're going to really see the evolution of streaming television in this episode. Man, I can't wait.
00:51:13
Speaker
So I think that's going to do it for episode number 14 of Captain's Blogs and Lightsabers on this very special Star Wars Podcast Day 2022 edition of the show. Thank you for listening. May that force be with you. And live long and prosper.