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EP 91: Can't we all just be friends?
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This week on Mom Group Chat, we’re diving into the motherhood discourse that’s been lighting up the internet.
From Chappell Roan’s viral comments to Ellen Pompeo’s reflections on the Call Her Daddy podcast, we unpack the very real tension surrounding how women talk about motherhood publicly. Why does it always feel like moms are coming for each other—or that we have to plant a flag in a certain “camp” of how we feel about motherhood?
The truth is: motherhood is so many things at once. It’s beautiful and brutal. Joyful and exhausting. It’s a full range of emotions—often felt in a single day. On this podcast, we give ourselves (and you) permission to feel all of it. No shame, no labels, no performative takes—just real, raw conversations about what it means to be a mom today.
We hope this episode reminds you that your experience is valid, and you don’t owe the internet (or anyone) a perfectly packaged version of your motherhood story.
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Transcript
Introduction and Host Greetings
00:00:07
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There's no right way to do it. Oh, we're going to get into it.
Hannah's Bachelorette Party Excitement
00:00:14
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What up, moms? My name's Whitney, and I'm here with my best friend, Candice, and we are the Mom Group Chat Podcast.
00:00:20
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Hello. ah oh What's going on? I'm like running so behind this morning. I've got a big weekend ahead of me. I'm going to Hannah's bachelorette party, which Hannah is Shannon's little sister.
00:00:34
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for um those of you who know Shannon and love Shannon, This is ha Hannah's little sister. Which is so special. Or Shannon's little. Yeah. So special. I am so excited to go.
00:00:47
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There's obviously like some emotions involved, but Hannah and I have tried to get them all out beforehand. You're like, we can't do this this weekend. No, no, no. We've like strategically planned. We're like, all right, we're going to be sad about this now, like on Tuesday and then Friday Get the fuck up. We're going to hide. Let's go.
00:01:07
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You got to get like a code word for if y'all feeling emotional, like mushroom cloud. Like, so let's go. like Literally. we We've had a conversation about it and we're like, listen, Shannon would want nothing but...
Party Themes and Weekend Plans
00:01:21
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fun, girly, swirly rage vibes. Like that's all. And rage isn't like party rage, not like angry rage, you know? obvious And all she would want is for us to have the time of our lives.
00:01:32
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So that's, we've got to put on our bachelorette faces and Do it. And I'm prepared. I'm ready. I'm mentally there. I haven't been one in while. So I can only imagine what you're going to be like. I can only imagine.
00:01:51
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Oh, I wish I was there. Okay. So this Saturday night is like mermaid themed. Okay, please tell them the theme because it's cute. Okay, so the whole theme of the thing is like Last Splash. It's... Aquamarine. Yeah, very like 90s aquamarine is the vibes.
00:02:08
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um So Saturday night, the direction for like the dress was like... either sequins or shiny pastels and like mermaid color vibes, you know?
00:02:23
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So I'm wearing this tiny dress that is so scary, but I'm, I'm just sucking it up. It's like literally a, It's like shiny seafoam green.
00:02:38
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And it's very tight on my body, but it's okay That's what a bachelorette's for, you know? I'm just like, it's not like I'm trying to get a man. You know, I have one.
00:02:48
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So i'm I'm like, I'm just going to party and like oh my god i have a great time already know tonight goodbye candace
Vacation Destinations and New Orleans Memories
00:03:00
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goodbye no no tonight's gonna be an easy night and that's like famous last words no no but tonight we're just doing dinner and then like slumber party vibes so i kind of feel like tonight tomorrow's the big day tomorrow's the big day we have um we have A yoga class in the morning. How skinny and healthy of us.
00:03:22
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And then ah we have like those cabanas at the beach, like where they put them up for you and it comes with the chair tables and chairs. Goodbye. And you know. Yeah. Yeah. Goodbye.
00:03:33
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And then that's leading into like our big night out. And I'm like, goodbye. And then Sunday morning, we have to wake up. Her bridal shower is on Sunday at noon.
00:03:44
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So we all have to get up. And I'm like, I... I'm going to need a mobile IV. Like set set it up now. Who planned that part? I mean, it's fine, but. Her wedding is just like quick.
00:03:56
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Like we, it can't like they planned it, even though she's been engaged for like almost a year. They didn't have like as of January 1st this year, like they did not have a wedding date. And then like they planned for May 17th and it's just like, okay, we got to squeeze all this stuff in, which I and i kind of love that honestly. Yeah.
00:04:17
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Yeah. So it's like, we don't really have a choice. Yeah. Yeah. so Yeah. um It's
Motherhood on Social Media: Sharing Truths
00:04:24
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going to be so well wish me luck fun. Please take pictures.
00:04:29
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Of course. Send a video of you just talking. I will. just want to hear you talking. With my sunny side up eyes. Please.
00:04:41
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i will. I'll FaceTime you. Oh my God. My iguana, Candice. love you. I love you um She hasn't been out in a while. i actually was like, I had this thought yesterday, like thinking of like bachelorette vibes and like getting, I had this thought of like, how do you get really wasted? Like I haven't done it in so long that it's almost like I forget ah to do that.
00:05:08
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You know I mean? i think it's like, I mean, tonight you'll probably just have wine or whatever. And then tomorrow it's like a high noon day. then it's like, oh, cocktail at dinner. And then that's like when things get.
00:05:23
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yeah how You get wasted is that. Yeah. Yeah. You coast all day on the high noons and then debauchery ensues soon after. Yeah.
00:05:34
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Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That sounds so fun. I'm so excited, but I'm running a little bit behind this morning. i had like full plans to like wake up and do my hair and makeup before we record and like finish up packing. i knew this would happen. i was like, Candice, we do not have to record this morning. You're like, it's fine.
00:05:53
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Well, I want to because I just don't know what Monday is going to be like. I feel like Monday is going to be like a catch-up day and I don't want to be stressed Monday either. Like today is not that serious. That's like what I keep telling myself. Like it's fine. It's fine if we're like a little bit late.
00:06:09
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If you're behind a tidbit. If I'm behind, it's like not not the biggest deal. And you're in such like high spirits right now. It's like you're excited. You're about to have a weekend. Yeah. Yeah, I'm super pumped.
00:06:22
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um It's crazy how I have in person. I just need to tell you, I look so tan and dark. And in this video, I do not look because of this big window, I guess. oh Your arms look tan.
00:06:35
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I know, but like my face is matching this in real life. Wow. That's crazy. Your arms look tan, but um I took today off just because Margo has full. Yeah, tell us. so Unfortunate.
00:06:50
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Yeah. Like the whole daycare is going down, man. ah She's been home since Wednesday and I like told my boss, I'm like, Like, I tried to work through it on Wednesday. Chris took off yesterday, but I was like, I'm just going to take off. Like, it doesn't, it's not working for me. Yeah.
00:07:09
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Yeah. That's smart. The flu is is sucky, too. Like, they feel terrible. Like, Alice literally was attached to me like a barnacle when she had the flu.
00:07:20
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Yeah, she has been. Literally. Poor thing. She's such a little... sweetie pie but um she's doing so much better today but I was telling Candace like I couldn't in good conscious just be like all right you've had two days at home after the flu like you cook can go to school I was like ah just stay home I'll take off we'll have a little Graydon seems to be doing fine even though like I mean it's gonna happen we're all gonna get it I'm supposed to go to New Orleans for work next week and i'm like we'll see if I end up going you know
00:07:55
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Damn. When do you leave? when do you leave Tuesday. Next week. And I mean, honestly, like, just give me a hand grenade. It'll fix me. and
00:08:07
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Are you going on a bachelorette too? I'm doing a a syringe jello shot. So it's the elixir. Thank you. It's your B12 shot. Yeah.
00:08:19
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Oh my God. That's funny. Wow. I love New Orleans so much. That's one of those places um Vinny and I've had lots of talks about recently because we're like, we've kind of got a, we feel like we've had a lot going on um obviously always, but, and this, this year for the rest of the year, we have like a couple weddings and a couple of trips, but we don't have any like just us vacations that are like,
00:08:42
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You know? Yeah. And we've talked about doing a long weekend somewhere and we keep talking about New Orleans. How funny. And just like going to like eat and drink and like explore a little bit.
00:08:53
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I haven't been since college. i It's weird. I didn't go. either I didn't go my whole life. And then I went with you to the national championship. And then i went senior year for Mardi Gras.
00:09:05
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Like last minute just went for the night. And so like to me, New Orleans seems like what am I doing here it at the age of 30? Because all I can think about is how I experienced it in college. so I'm like kind of curious. But see, that's ah Right. That's well, that's what Vinny and I have chatted about. And that is that we feel like there's a whole nother like world, and whole nother culture to New Orleans that like we've never really gotten to see because the only side we know is like,
Florida's Population Growth Discussion
00:09:36
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let's go and get blackout drunk when we're 23, you know? Yeah. That's the only side I've seen. So, um, kind I mean, kind of like how I had that feeling with Key West. I'm like, what am I going to do with kids here? And then it ended up being like so nice. i'm like,
00:09:50
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Oh, I mean, I'm working. It's not like I'm there on vacation. Yeah. I don't know what I'm expecting here. i feel like I would love to go and kind of like explore the like, not necessarily spooky. I don't know if spooky is the right word, like mystical side of New Orleans, like voodoo doll people. I don't know. You know what i mean? Like I want to dig into the culture of all of that a little bit. I think that'd be interesting. Yeah.
00:10:16
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just similar to Charleston and Savannah. So I'm like, I just, and don't know. We'll see. I've never been to Charleston. i went to both last year. I've been to Savannah. love Savannah though. A times.
00:10:29
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Not my favorite. Charleston's fine too. Really? vinny and I loved Savannah, but I love bond Mount Pleasant a lot. Like, I feel like I would like the islands of the Carolinas. Like, I think I would like Kiwa, Kiwa, like, um, like, I don't know.
00:10:55
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I think I would like all that Hilton Head, of which I've only gone once. Like when I was really little, I don't remember it, like but I think I would enjoy like that. And I haven't done it. So always just go to Florida. Yeah.
00:11:08
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Florida. i love Florida. um um What was I listening to yesterday? I do love Florida. i um I was listening to something yesterday about how Florida is has the fastest growing population.
00:11:23
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and it's like by lot. Like ah so many people are moving here and it's a little scary. ah Only because it's like... It is feeling crowded here. Like Tampa's feeling super crowded. The traffic's gotten crazy. Like I'm like, okay, everyone. people I know from work, three people just moved there to Tampa from like Colorado. Yes. From Colorado, from Pennsylvania and from Nashville.
00:11:49
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Three people. They're like Tampa. I was like, oh, my best friend lives there. Oh, not funny. Wow. What a small world. They are all moving to Tampa. Yeah. yeahpa
00:12:01
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It's about to get hot as the devil's dick here. ah a feel i feel like people were moving here to Nashville there for a little bit, and I haven't heard much.
00:12:13
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like It's slowed down. It has slowed down because in this thing I was listening to, they were talking about the also Texas and Tennessee, which were the other two places that people were moving to a ton um and it's like had a huge slant downward it's still in the positive of like people are moving there but it's it had a big rush and then it's like sloped downward it was like um a hundred people a day were moving here into nashville yes something crazy i was like oh my god
00:12:47
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Yeah. Well, y'all, I mean, i don't know. It's hard because I feel like y'all's traffic is worse. However, like I live
Motherhood: Perspectives and Emotions
00:12:57
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more in like the city proper. Like I don't have to go.
00:13:02
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on the highways necessarily unless I'm like going somewhere. And so I feel like maybe our traffic is this is similar to yours. i just don't have to go out You know what I mean?
00:13:14
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Yeah. um Yeah. Nashville's kind of sneaky big too. Like, yeah, it is. I don't know. I don't go into, I only go into town once a week when I have to, and I pop my ass right back out. I, I don't hang out in Nashville anymore. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:33
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Oh, but anyways, what else is new? Have you listened to any of the call her daddy episodes recently, specifically the one with Chapel Rhone or the one with, um, my God, I always want to call her Meredith just because I'm such a Grey's Anatomy fan.
00:13:51
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Literally Meredith Gray. What is her name? I'm drawing a blank. Ellen Pompeo. ah Right? Ellen Pompeo. Ellen Pompeo.
00:14:03
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Sorry. Yes. With I'm just going to keep saying Meredith Gray, honestly, because in my brain, she is Meredith Gray. But have you listened to either of those episodes? I haven't listened to either, but obviously I've seen everything that's come out about it. And while I was in Key West, I think the Ellen one, Meredith one came out and I like i like reposted her quote um because she had such an a positive outlook on motherhood and how people treat other people as a mom. And then I've also seen like the negative that Chapel Rhone has, how every mom she's been around is miserable. And she's like,
00:14:39
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I don't want to be a mom. Like everyone I know is Ms. So it's just, oh man. God, it's caused so much discourse on social media and so much conversation. And I think some of it's good and some of it's bad. I mean, we've even talked about it, how we felt like some stuff makes us feel bad for feeling a certain way because other people are feeling so cheery And I came to the conclusion because Candace and I were like just talking about it and I was kind of like getting a little insecure about stuff we've talked about and seeing yeah some stuff. And I was like,
00:15:20
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man damned if you do and damned if you don't like people are going to be mad at you if you're happy and people are going to be mad at you if you're complaining and I was like you might as well yeah speak your truth and be in the moment and do what you got to do as a mom and I was like I just don't I don't want to participate in the fight anymore about it yeah yeah yeah No, I totally agree. I think it's what I said in our text conversation that I was wanted to talk about on the mic today. was like I kind of feel like what Ellen said in her episode was like how I feel about motherhood and about these feelings we've talked about in the past. It's just...
00:16:05
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motherhood can feel so intense and it, when it's good, it is so good. It is like all encompassing, make me ball tears of gratitude and joy. And like, I love my kids so much. I want to squeeze them till their heads pop off Like i and I, I genuinely love being a mom. And I think you do too. Like all, like all the time we love being a mom and we love our kids.
00:16:31
Speaker
And But on the opposite side of the spectrum, there's also the intense feelings that you feel when shit is hard or bad. And when it's bad, it can feel really bad. It can feel really hard.
00:16:47
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I'm thinking even to like I've talked on this podcast about how when I'm pregnant, like I have a little bit of like perinatal depression and like that is really hard and sad and intense feeling. Like it's really – it really is an intense feeling.
00:17:02
Speaker
Like that it's, it's something that like, when I think about getting pregnant again, I'm scared that I'm going to feel that way again. And like, that's intense. And I think that's just the name of the game with motherhood. Everything can feel so intense.
00:17:17
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The joy is intense. The sadness is intense. The nostalgia is intense. Like all the range of feelings is so crazy.
00:17:28
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yeah, What I'm not loving about social media right now and the conversations happening like on social media in general, what I'm not loving is women coming after women for any sort of feeling. Yeah. um And I just want to say like publicly, I guess, not that like I have to, you know, make a statement or something, but like publicly,
00:17:56
Speaker
If we ever made anyone feel like their feelings weren't valid or we made anyone feel bad for the way they were feeling, like that was never our our intention. I don't even know if I need to say that necessarily, but I i know we've had lots of conversations on this podcast about like maybe not feeling as great about motherhood as like some other people or even when we're feeling great and warm and fuzzy, like other people have, are maybe listening and in a really dark spot.
00:18:30
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And like, maybe we made them feel bad for being in a dark spot. So I don't know. I just want everyone to know that like motherhood has so many ups and downs and mountains and valleys. And like,
00:18:47
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they're intense and all the feelings it in those mountains and valleys and everything in between is like so valid and real. For sure. One of my favorite things you always say is like, you're allowed to feel two things at once. And yeah I think that's just something we need to remember. um And like you said, we were not, I think particularly the stay at home mom conversation that we had, which we really honestly got amazing. Like,
00:19:17
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feedback in our Facebook yeah group, like people having open conversation. Everyone was like, honestly, so nice and polite, but like on the other end, like we don't know that side of things. And, and I mean, y'all have to just remember, like, sometimes it feels like Candace and I are just talking and it's like word vomit sometimes. And yes, we know we have a platform and yes, um, we are both very conscious of what we talk about. Like we want to be relevant and,
00:19:45
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Liked and friends with everyone. So we're never, ever, ever trying to hurt anyone's feelings or like our ultimate goal is that when we're chatting and here yapping on this mic is that we make you guys feel seen, you know?
00:20:02
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Yeah. I don't know. And sometimes it feels like you're either on one side or the other. And I felt like, honestly, Candace and I kind of went through a hard, I don't know, with the kids together. Like, I mean, it sounded, it seems so like we were both like, oh my gosh, your kid's sick. And then Graydon was being, or I don't know, not just Graydon, like it was hard there for a second for me. And then like, now I'm like, oh my gosh, things are magical unicorns and fun and like even though margo's sick like i'm so happy to to be here and her like fall asleep on me and like so and like there it's just so sweet like i'm cherishing these moments like i just want us all to be friends yeah no and i wish as moms that we can just see
00:20:51
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someone else's like stage that they're in and like acknowledge that like they probably don't feel that way every day, but like they're sharing how they feel in that moment and like that's okay for them to do that.
00:21:04
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And we all love being – I don't like – I do not resonate with Chapel Rhone's comment like at all. Like I there I actually couldn't tell you one mom in my life who has flat out said to me like I'm unhappy. I don't like being a mom. I can't think of one person. Not one.
00:21:23
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And so. I don't know. I mean, I don't think we've ever come across that intense ever that we don't like it. I think we're just, we've been through some hard shit recently and it's okay for us to be like, yeah, it's been hard. And like, and, and like, just as life does, like I'm on an upswing now, like Evie is the cutest she's ever been. My girls are healthy.
00:21:49
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Like I feel so good about the phase of life I'm in right now. Like even just literally a week later, Yeah. Like I'm a week late. I'm a week away from me feeling like I was in the trenches and like the sun is out again.
00:22:04
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You know what I mean? And like, that's the name of the game with motherhood and with kids. It's like, it's truly this too shall pass. I got to pull up Julia's, um,
00:22:16
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take on it. Honestly, her her post made me cry just because it was like literally the exact feelings that I can't articulate. So we've had Julia on the podcast before. um She's amazing. She's incredible. She's in New York. She just had her second baby.
00:22:34
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And she said the parallel Chapel didn't realize when making that statement. I actually understand why she said it. And I understand why To many people, it appears that way.
00:22:44
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Her comments speak to the social societal pressures placed on mothers and not to motherhood itself. And remember last year when she canceled a bunch of shows because she the societal pressures of being a performer and a celebrity became too much?
00:23:00
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She needed to take a break, scream into the void, and now continues to show up because her work is deep deeply fulfilling, brings immense joy to her and the people she performs for.
00:23:11
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That's motherhood. God. Yeah. It's so true. It's like we do sometimes need a second to fucking lose our shit. And like... And we need like... That's why Candace and I like having children semi-same age, like the complaining to each other is just our way of feeling normal and like...
00:23:33
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oh my god someone else feels this way too and then it's also like us sending amazing picture like candace sent me pictures of evie and margo's clothes and like that brought me immense joy like seeing evie in margo's clothes i was like this is like such sweet yeah sweet moments and i mean we're allowed to have both so yeah i also want to read um ah Ellen Pompeo's quote from it's my favorite um from call her daddy because I do feel that it was so spot on and relevant yeah Julia's post made me freaking tear up and I wrote her and I was like wow this made me cry and and then she wrote back that's because you're a great mom and I was like stop
00:24:23
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going to sob. She's talking about being a mom and like doing your job at the same time, like being 100% at work.
00:24:34
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And um so that's the context of this quote. But I think it kind of like also pertains to motherhood outside of that like – context as well.
00:24:47
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She said, you cannot be a mother and have children and give a hundred percent to to your job you just can't but you know what that does it makes you more soulful you will just be a better version of yourself but that's only a plus it makes you richer it makes you more soulful you will be yourself time thousand um which I feel like is so true. And she, the way that she said it with such intensity is exactly what I'm talking about with like the intensity of feelings. Like it just, it gives you this range that you didn't have before you were a mom.
00:25:25
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She said something else. Where that? know that one like wasn't the full quote. I wanted like, can I get a transcript please? Yeah.
00:25:34
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I have it somewhere. ah Okay. Because I shared it, but is it gone? Oh, I found it. should be in your archive. Okay. okay yeah So she, um, what's her face?
00:25:50
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What's her name? um Ellen? No, the other one. Alex Cooper. Alex Cooper says, people have said to me, you know what happens when you have kids? Like, I'm going to be a mom and become damaged goods.
00:26:03
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And Ellen Pompeo says, people who make those comments comments lack wisdom and they lack intuition and they lack magic. Woo. Ugh.
00:26:15
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I love that so much. Like what an elegant way of like standing up to the man. Like you don't know what you're talking about.
00:26:26
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Other side like and we love the word magic on this podcast because it's such a Shannon thing for us. But motherhood is magic and I will cry.
00:26:38
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God what is wrong with me?
00:26:41
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are you on your period? I think I'm No. No, I was like, no. the The truth is is that, again, with the range of emotions, like nothing can make me cry faster than thinking about being a mom and my kids. like I love them more than anything in the whole world. like I would do anything for them.
00:27:02
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And being a mom is magic. I do think it's made me a superhero. like I think we're all superheroes. And there are things that I can do now that I...
00:27:17
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never ever thought I would be able to get through or do like even getting through the grief of Shannon's death. Like my kids got me through that.
00:27:28
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And even now I'm like, wow, I and I have the tools now going through that to like show my children how to deal with grief and how to deal with sadness and how to honor someone and feel joy eat even through the bad. And it's just, it is a superpower to be a mom.
00:27:58
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And
00:28:02
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I just feel so grateful that this is my life, like truly. And so grateful that like we have, like I said, this platform to talk to other people in this same club. And we want this to be a welcoming community um where we've always said truths, you know? Yeah. I was going to say in all of our like show descriptions and like when we talk to brands and we're talking about our show,
00:28:33
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One thing we always say is like we aim to keep our conversations honest above all else. So we are going to give you the range of emotions in motherhood. Like we're going to talk about the days that are hard. If we're going to talk about the times where we're not necessarily like loving it all the time, but we still love being moms. And I, I don't love the camps in, on social media of like, are you the, are you the mom that's loving every moment? Or are you the mom that's like feeling like it's hard?
00:29:07
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Yeah. Both. but you can think is what we were doing yes I think that's what we were trying to say in that other episode and might've
Handling Online Feedback and Seeking Support
00:29:14
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come across a different way, but yeah, That's what we're trying to say is like, we're all in this together.
00:29:20
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Is that camp rock? What is that? I don't know what that is. That is high school musical. That's in the same realm, right? I'm literally going to chain you to a couch and make you watch those movies with me.
00:29:33
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Like I will. I knew the tune. ah You did, but that's all. They all mix together for me. What is that? No, they're all the same like brand, you know?
00:29:45
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Yeah. yeah I also was listening to another podcast, the Good Influencer podcast by Julia Markham. I think that's her name.
00:29:56
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And um she was talking about like haters in your DMs and just like trolls on the internet. And she and I've actually mentioned this about Danny Austin has said the same thing.
00:30:10
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She said that like 95% of the like negativity and like negative comments on their socials and in their DMs is moms and women. And that makes me feel so icky. Like, um I don't love that. I want us all to support each other and build each other up and like,
00:30:33
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validate each other's feelings without having to be like, you shouldn't feel that way. Or you know what I mean? Like we can, there is so much space for us to be able to feel the feelings and also be like, you're doing a great job.
00:30:51
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How can I help you? Or you know what I mean? Like there's, there's room for all of it. Yeah. I just want to be a cheerleader for either side. And that's why we're here.
00:31:03
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That's why we do this. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Our number one thing is, like you said, we love our chitlins. Keeping it real. Our kittens. We love talking to each other. Like, this is Candice and I's therapy. And he well sometimes I forget other people are out there until we get going to have to And they know it inside joke. And I'm like, how'd you get in my brain? How'd you there?
00:31:29
Speaker
Oh, my God. The messages we've gotten about the corn on the cob but make me LOL. Wait, i haven't no seen any of those. Well, so many of the moms in my mom group have been like, oh, my God, i' they're like, I'm dying over Whitney and the trying corn.
00:31:46
Speaker
No, my my best friend that lives here, she goes like, I'm finally listening to that episode. And she's like, I'm dead. And I was like, I'm busted because ah you know, I pretended like I'd always eaten it in my, and she was like, oh my God. What?
00:32:01
Speaker
That is so funny. And I was like, don't listen to the pot. What are you doing? Stop being supportive. I was talking to one of my clients um and she was saying she posted this reel and it was like when you're when you're at your kid's school and they're like, oh, I think I follow you on social media. And it's like her running away.
00:32:22
Speaker
it's like that's how I feel sometimes if I'm ever in like a social situation and they're like, oh, I listen to your podcast. I'm always like, oh, got to go. Yeah. No one really, I still have not met a groundhogian in the wild, but. Really?
00:32:37
Speaker
I've met a couple and I love, like also me talking about running away. That's specifically like people at my kid's school or like something like that. If you see me randomly, like please come up and say hi and say, listen to the pod.
00:32:49
Speaker
It's my favorite thing. that Yeah. um Waiting for the day, but. That's crazy. In Nashville, I feel like it would be. Sometimes I look around at a park and I'm like,
00:33:02
Speaker
Do any of you know me? Are you a groundhog? Which is so embarrassing, but I'm like, anyone here to talk? Oh my God, that's so funny. Oh, I'm so lame. But um I don't know.
00:33:18
Speaker
I do want to say, and what was I going to say? Now I've lost my train of thought. I'm so sorry. ah well. um She it. Oh, the DMs are... People are hysterical. Like, you know how, like, the TikTok comments are, like, the funniest place on earth, you know? It's, like, ah our r DMs... Oh, my God. The things people come up with are so funny.
00:33:43
Speaker
Our listeners are so funny. Like, they are so funny. And that's how I know that we're doing a good job and, like, we found our people because... everyone is so funny. Like not to spoil White Lotus, but I did get like a funny DM. I know, but I did get a funny DM about a White Lotus comment. And i was just like, oh my God, y'all are so funny. I don't know.
00:34:05
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But she sent it to me directly because you're behind.
TV Shows and Friendship Dynamics
00:34:08
Speaker
I'm on like episode, I think we need to watch episode five. And actually I'm upset about going out of town. I mean, I'm not upset because I'm so excited for Hannah's Bachelorette, but Vinny flat out said he's like I'm gonna have to finish White Lotus this weekend and I'm like I don't blame him I don't blame him too because we're really at a good point you know how many episodes are there total six seven I think seven okay so we still have like five six and seven
00:34:39
Speaker
it's so good um the characters in that show are wild and like so they're like the perfect mix of realistic and like campy like they're like not realistic but they are it's so interesting right now right now the the ma the fair the mom of the family like makes me die she is so freaking funny yeah Parker Posey now we say Margot yeah It's become this whole thing where we're like, Margot, no! Oh my god, that's so funny. It's kind of fun.
00:35:14
Speaker
Did you hear that Mike White, the creator, had that whole family watch the early seasons of Southern Charm? Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Please, I listen to the podcast, the recaps of the episodes. Oh, do you? I do that with all HBO shows, like The gil the Golden Age, which also Carrie Coon stars in, who's like... um lori in the show the one from new york she is the oh yeah yeah like character bertha on the golden age which fucking love or is it the gilded age is it the golden i was gonna say the gilded ageild age i think is what you're talking about i'm thinking of a golden goose for some reason i don't know why the gilded age so um also sorry need to say something
00:35:58
Speaker
The other thing i the, the, um what's it called? The way that that group of three women like in the show acts like kind of is like the same ick. Like I hate that they all talk about each other and like,
00:36:16
Speaker
I don't know. i i was just like – I actually paused it in the last episode and I said to Vinny, I was like, this like storyline between these three friends like makes me so sad yeah because it's like – I don't know. I definitely have a whole different view of like friendship after losing Shannon. Like I just, I hold my girlfriends so precious to me. And like, I feel like I did before too, but like I hold them so precious to me now that like, I feel like i my shit talking is so much lower than it used to be because I'm just like so grateful to have all these amazing like girlfriends in my life, you know?
00:36:58
Speaker
Well, I don't know. I feel like... That whole dynamic made me so sad. For them, it makes sense because they were friends in high school. So they go back to their old high school ways of, oh, this is what we do.
00:37:13
Speaker
We all just talk about each other. Like, yeah I remember moving to Rhode Island and thinking, besides you, like, these are some of the most mature friendships I've ever had where, like, we all...
00:37:26
Speaker
I have nothing like that I ever did. I have nothing bad to say after I like leave a situation or like we are all just very positive. Like we would go around and say like, what's let's all say one nice thing about like Elena. Let's all say one nice thing about Chris. Like it just was like so nice that I was like, I want this with every friendship that I have. And I just, I was like, I'm done leaning into this.
00:37:54
Speaker
Talking about. Cattiness. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel too. It was like a shift when I turned like 28 maybe. um And I was like, I'm i'm above it. I don't want to do it anymore. Yeah.
00:38:06
Speaker
I don't. I just. That like feels so icky to me now. And I just. I hate that like women are portrayed like that a lot on TV and film. That like all women friends are like catty and talk about each other. I hate that.
00:38:21
Speaker
I hate that whole shtick. when you're like friends like that like i said from like a high school you just like yeah morph right back into your old ways so i can see why did it like that i mean that all shows so good and like patrick schwarzenegger is such a good actor i thought oh my god yeah we thought we think he's so good but so creepy i don't know what's going on with those siblings but something's fucking weird You just wait.
00:38:48
Speaker
I know. I know. I know something's coming. Something is strange. Something is off. Something Something is awry. Something's coming. Okay. do Is that an innuendo about something? i don't know.
00:39:01
Speaker
Yeah. don't know. It was so weird. That show is so crazy. It's so good.
00:39:13
Speaker
um Well, I'm happy that we had this conversation and we brought it to the mic because we were having it in our group chat. And i just felt like we wanted to bring it to you guys and say that we love you.
00:39:31
Speaker
and We're here for the good, the bad, the ugly. We're your mom friends. so can i Can I end this pod with, yeah um i want to tell because I told Candace this yesterday, um a cutie little thing that Graydon said.
00:39:46
Speaker
oh this is so funny. And I just want to i want to remember it forever. So this is me writing it down in this podcast. And so Margo's been sick, right? And she she sneezed right on his ass. Like, she sneezed on him.
00:40:01
Speaker
And he goes, Margo, don't bless on me. Like, it was so cute. And I want to, like... bottle that up and keep it forever like what a pure little thing like he doesn't know the word sneeze he just knows bless you like oh my god what an innocent little angel and like chris and i laughed about it all night i just want it to be like a family joke for the rest of our life don't don't bless on me that is so funny And so cute.
00:40:31
Speaker
I just had to end it with that. We love our kiddos so much. I'm like loving um this age so much, both of them. And I'm really starting to see them like really play together. And I'm...
00:40:46
Speaker
Vinny even said, and like for Vinny to say this, like this is a big deal. Vinny feels like he said, he was like, he was like, I feel like we're so close to like it being legit easier. Like with them playing together and, and Evie being more independent and like, he was like, we're close. And then I'm in my brain. I'm like, does that mean we're going to talk about ah another baby or like,
00:41:10
Speaker
I think um not yeah once they hit the two-year-old stage and then Graydon's four. Yeah. That's, we're cooking now. Okay.
00:41:25
Speaker
When I was doing that doll trend, you know? Are we going post that? Yeah. I got to figure yours out though. Yours is like not right. i'm I'm little people, big world. It's fine.
00:41:38
Speaker
Oh my God. Which I think is funny. It's fine. But when I was doing it, it kept adding a third baby to your accessories. wants me to have three. And was like, this is Is this a sign? Like it just, I would, I would, I kept trying to get it to fix your body and your face. I would be like, the face isn't quite right. And I kept uploading a picture of your face being like, please make her features more like this, blah, blah, blah.
00:42:01
Speaker
and And then it would be like, great, no problem. Let me work on that. And then it would generate a new photo and it would add a baby. And I'm like, what the fuck? You know what it's lacking? That's not asked for.
00:42:11
Speaker
My eyelashes. Where my fake eyelashes? Oh, maybe that. I need to add that. But. It's so much more complicated.
Barbie-Style Image Trend Humor
00:42:20
Speaker
I need to know how much all these other people, how much time all these other people spent on these stupid dolls.
00:42:25
Speaker
Because it took me an hour to get mine to look. Yours is like kind of fab. Like yours looks like an actual Barbie, like your package. And then well mine is like a hodgepodge of like everything I've ever loved in my life.
00:42:39
Speaker
I didn't know what to put for you. Only because the things i like mine is like a lipstick, a planner. Like I, I, yours, I did a margarita ah corn on the cob. This all makes sense. Truly. Like the painting of the sailboat.
00:42:55
Speaker
Okay. LOL. I had a, i Well, okay. I had originally put home decor and it had made this little like home sweet home sign. And I was like, this is not right. Like, this is not right. It it was giving chug, you know? yeah And I was like, what does she love? And so I asked it to change it to an oil painting of a sailboat. Yeah.
00:43:16
Speaker
so perfect I I'm not kidding Candice I'm gonna send you a picture of a a picture I have that looks just like that it's so quite on point I say just post it like I think it's funny for me I don't care okay of all you'll have to tell me of all the iterations I sent you you need to send you need to heart the one that you feel is the best world the first one I sent that's that one okay see that one all the accessories are correct it's just your body that's little people big world It's fine.
00:43:47
Speaker
The one where I like am actually skinny and doesn't look like me. I know. She's too pretty. no you're prettier than her. But like it's but there's too many babushkas in it.
00:44:00
Speaker
Well, yeah, there's like why are there so many Russian dolls? I don't know, man. It's fine. I think it's kind of funny.
00:44:13
Speaker
I'm sorry, the longer I look at it, the more I'm like, you're dwarf. That's probably politically incorrect. I'll cut that part out. But you're literally a cast member of Little People, Big World.
00:44:24
Speaker
Which I'm a fucking fan of. So I say post it. Okay. That's hilarious. All right. Okay.
Episode Wrap-Up and Engagement Reminders
00:44:33
Speaker
I got to get going. Okay.
00:44:34
Speaker
Have so much fun. I love you. I love you so much. Bye. Thank you so much for being a part of our mom group chat. New episodes drop every Tuesday. And don't forget, the group chat is blowing up on our Instagram page. So make sure you're following along over there.
00:44:51
Speaker
All right. Got to go. My toddler just put something in her mouth. Bye.