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Ep. 181 – Little Tyrants, Hip Hop Giants, & the Biggest Scumbag in Myrtle Beach
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This week, we’re talking about a few different disastrous stories that we just can’t look away from. First, South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem continues to make headlines as journalists sift through the ridiculous claims in her upcoming book, “No Going Back: The Truth on What’s Wrong with Politics and How We Move America Forward.” The latest pull quotes had us in tears, and her response to criticism makes it all the more fun! Next up, we discuss the disturbing case of Mica Miller, a young woman who allegedly “unalived” herself in the midst of a messy separation from her husband, Pastor John Paul Miller of Solid Rock Ministries in Myrtle Beach, SC. There is a lot to this story, and given the possible allegations of abuse, the pastor’s relationship with another woman in the church, and his absolutely bizarre behavior in the wake of his wife’s tragic death, internet sleuths are working overtime trying to find out what kind of person John Paul Miller is and whether or not he had anything to do with Mica’s sudden demise. Lastly, we’re as captivated as everyone else is by the public war between Drake and Kendrick Lamar. Sam lays out a timeline for the attacks, and highlights some of the more ruthless portions of each diss track. We hope you enjoy the show!
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Unexpected Trump Impersonation
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Speaker
he's like at the bullhorn he's like wrong wrong like just saying dumb trump shit like not no meaning no point behind it and i'm like is he making fun of
00:00:11
Speaker
the Trump rally people is he making fun of the people like holding the probe Trump signs or is he part of them it did turn out he was part of them but it's just if you're gonna do the voice and wear the clothes and the goofy mask and say the things he says that should be the moment you recognize that
00:00:30
Speaker
the guy you're voting for is the biggest fucking moron on the planet. You literally stepped into his shoes and that shows that you barely have two brain cells to rub together because you stepped into his shoes and quoted him the way he talks and were like, I think we're bringing people to our side, guys. We did it. It's like you're voting for Ron Burgundy. No fucking shit, dude, for real.
00:00:57
Speaker
It's like you just go to the ballot box and write give me your tots on your ballot
Podcast Introduction
00:01:23
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And before we get into anything, Casey, I want to take a second to talk to you about Chuck E. Cheese. I have no memory of Chuck E. Cheese. No, I went to one when I was a wee lad for someone's birthday.
00:01:48
Speaker
I vaguely recall one little shitty arcade thing you do for tickets, but I don't have any real memory.
00:01:57
Speaker
of Chuck E. Cheese.
Chaos at Chuck E. Cheese
00:01:59
Speaker
But this past weekend, we had my son's birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese. And my God, that place is overstimulating a little bit. And it's crazy. And it's literally the moment I walked in. It was immediately understandable why
00:02:20
Speaker
why Chuck E Cheese has like more fights than your local high schools like between families and parents like Chuck E Cheese is like regularly on the news for brawls and shit and I did quit look up try to find quick stats and it was an older an older article
00:02:43
Speaker
from like seven or eight years ago but it was like at least like five times a year cops are called to Chuck E. Cheese's to like break up fights which look in the grand scheme of Chuck E. Cheese's it's not a lot but it's a fuckload more than McDonald's I'm sure and I was like because you get in there and it's just like they put they have the birthday party section all on one side it's just like a row of tables row of tables row of tables and
00:03:11
Speaker
They bring they kind of do everything in order. It's like oh now the pizzas out for all the birthday parties and shit like that It was very like organized. It was actually really well done that Chuck E cheese is newer So it was like not yet covered in like boogers and shit, which is nice. It wasn't too bad but I Understand the I now understand
00:03:34
Speaker
the urge to beat the shit out of somebody out of Chuck E. Cheese because it was time to cash in tickets. And there were two people working the counter and there were four birthday parties happening at the same time. And they did, you know, everyone did games, got their tickets, went back to their tables for pizza, then did cake, went and did some games for a bit. And around the same time, all the parents got really fucking tired of being at Chuck E. Cheese and said, let's go cash in your tickets. We're getting the fuck out of here.
00:04:04
Speaker
So the line was long, obnoxiously long. I got in right before it really got bad. So I'm standing there with my kids, probably stood in line for, it was probably only 15 minutes, but 15 minutes in a line feels very long. Especially when you're just watching a kid in front of you, just take several minutes to decide if they want an airhead or a tootsie roll. And you're just like, God damn it. Just, just fucking pick.
00:04:33
Speaker
And they don't understand the concept of like money systems. They're like, you have, you have 2000 tickets. And they're like, can I get this? No, you can't get it. No. Can I get? Yes, you can get plenty of those. And they just don't. And then you get one. You just make it like purposely hard to understand, too. Like you could make a ticket worth one. Yeah. Like candy is one. A parachute man is two.
00:04:58
Speaker
But instead, Easy Bake Oven is $450. No one's ever gotten it before. Yeah. There's some there that are like $2,000, $1,500, whatever. And because it was my son's birthday, he had a lot more. I don't know. I don't even know how much we paid for it. I opted out of knowing. I complained about the idea of Chuck E. Cheese.
00:05:22
Speaker
And my wife's like, well, it's easy. And do you want to plan the birthday party? And I was like, just don't tell me how much it costs. So I know my son got 30 got 3000 tickets just for having a fucking birthday there. So that's cool.
00:05:43
Speaker
and like an airhead a Regular-sized airhead is like a hundred tickets. So it's like this kid's got he ends up playing games. He ends up with like 4100 tickets or whatever the fuck and he's like he could buy a fatal dose of He's like you could buy enough funded to kill everyone at the party Little kid fentanyl
00:06:05
Speaker
It really is. I actually ate fondant for the first time in a long time around Christmas because we got little packs of it for my kids. Did you eat it or did you rub it on your gums real free, seriously? I snorted it like a real person. You get it on that little stick and you go...
00:06:23
Speaker
They don't I don't think the candy sticks are as good as I remember. I don't know if they change the the recipe. I mean, I know the recipe is literally just sugar. I don't know how you could change that recipe, but it does seem a little a little different now.
00:06:38
Speaker
But anyway, so like, you know, you have all these kids, like you have 2000 points, they get one airhead. They're like, now how much do I have? And you're like, Oh my God, we're going to be here forever. So then this older lady comes up with, um, with her granddaughter as my presumption. Uh, and
00:06:55
Speaker
She comes up in front of me and her kids just looking in. She's like, yeah, you could get this. You get that. And she's hanging out for a little too long. So I start getting those heart palpitations that you get when you think someone's going to cut you in line, but you're not sure that feeling that everyone gets where you're like, she's going to do that. Oh, oh, oh, is there just one line? I thought there was two. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, and then just like rely on your good nature to assert themselves to the front.
00:07:24
Speaker
Yeah, and it was working because I am deathly afraid of public confrontation. So I I'm just watching and enough time goes by where I go. It's time to look at the person behind me and make eye contact because I know they're having the same feeling. And usually eye contact with strangers is something that's tough. You don't want to look at people you don't know just because you don't know. That's weird. Yeah. When you lock eyes with a stranger, you're like,
00:07:52
Speaker
Well, we're going to wonder what, what we were thinking and what happened. And I don't know, it's weird. You try not to make eye contact because that time you do, when you do lock eyes with a stranger, you immediately look away. Like you just got caught staring inappropriately at them or something like that. It's very weird. I hate locking eyes with strangers. We both got them low T jitters.
00:08:12
Speaker
Yeah. So but enough time passes where you I turn around the person behind me intentionally make eye contact and she looks at me. She's there with her kids. And we both kind of do that shrug and a smile like what the fuck is going on. And
00:08:29
Speaker
the person in front of me you can tell the person who's at the counter is about to finish doing their shit and i finally just look at the lady and just like excuse me she's like oh yeah i was like are you in
00:08:43
Speaker
Are you in line right now? And she goes, oh, I'm, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like I accidentally cut the entire line. And what she does is then she goes and stands directly behind me. And there's probably 15 people in the line at this point. And I'm still like,
00:09:01
Speaker
This is mind blowing. There's no way she's now trying to just stand behind me. So the person at the front counter finishes and they're like, I could take the next person in line. I can see her looking antsy. And I turn around and just was like, do you think you're still in line right now? And she was like, huh? I was like, the line is obviously way back there. And you jumped in front of me. So I think back there is where you're supposed to be. What the fuck are you doing?
00:09:29
Speaker
and she as soon as I like I felt power I felt an immense level of power for a moment I didn't say what the fuck are you doing that was my own running commentary but that immense level of power what you're just like she looks at me flustered she's like oh she grunts and grabs her granddaughter by the arm and goes let's go and then walks back to like
00:09:49
Speaker
their table and I was like their table was right next to mine so I had to go back and I'm cleaning up and I'm like this is why people fucking getting fights here because if that was like if that was a dad my age we might have been on an episode of fucking cops or some shit afterwards you never know he could have gone for me and I would have
00:10:09
Speaker
I mean, I'm not a fighter, I would back down immediately, but God damn it, that, it gets your fucking blood pressure up. You're like, I'm about to have to, like, I'm about to get in a fight with an old lady. This is an unbelievable,
Concert Experience Analysis
00:10:20
Speaker
Chuck E. Cheese is an unbelievable fucking wild west of a place.
00:10:25
Speaker
Good for you, dude. I feel like I'm in the same boat where I'm probably just not gonna say something to somebody if they're gonna do something crappy like that, you know? But once in a while, it's too egregious and you have to be like, hey, what are you doing?
00:10:47
Speaker
If it's a fast moving line, I'll just be like, fuck it. If it's a disorganized and fast moving line, I'll roll with it. I'm like, I know what you're doing, you little bitch, but it's going to take me an extra 45 seconds to get my beer. So I'm not going to make a big deal of this. But the line was so long. I think if I wasn't waiting so long and it was moving quickly and I wasn't so frustrated, I wouldn't have said anything.
00:11:14
Speaker
Then you have the pressure of everyone behind you being like, this adds time to our day too, dude. Like you're the only person standing of the way, standing in the way of this injustice. And I'm like, wait, dude. And we were immediately connected, all of us with our children standing in line at Chuck E. Cheese. We had a giant orgy afterwards. It was, it was amazing. Oh boy.
00:11:41
Speaker
Stuff a dream. That's erotic fantasy. The kids were not involved. The kids weren't involved. They they went and played with Chucky. It was fun. Okay, good. That's good to clarify. Yeah. What about the robotic rat? That robotic? Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, there's no more robotics than the new ones. They have a giant like full wall LCD screen of like Chucky and his boys just dancing and shit. It's weird as fuck. They were set free from their eternal prison.
00:12:11
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I didn't know I watched it there. John Oliver with last week tonight, totally worth the watch. I'm not going to break it down, but you know, a breakdown of the whole history of Chuck E cheese and that it kind of started out with Chucky being a cigar smoking like insult comic. That was real, a real giant piece of shit to people.
00:12:31
Speaker
And it's fucking weird. Literally everyone should go watch that 30 minute segment on the hit. For real? That's a real thing? I swear to god. So Chucky is in like the middle years of his Trump arc. Yeah. Like he'll be president in like another, I don't know.
00:12:52
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. I want to say there was like some rip on like, it was like a Mickey Mouse rip. And then they're like, he's a rat. Like there was I don't even remember all of it. I just know that every step of the way you were like, how the fuck did anyone ever take a child to this place? And how is it such a such a children's place now? It's the evolution is crazy. And it was a failing business that got sold to someone else who figured out how to make it work. It was it's crazy. Everyone should go watch that. It's really cool.
00:13:22
Speaker
I had something else I wanted to bring up. Oh, before we move on, we have some good topics tonight. We're about to get into an update of Kristi Noem, who we talked about the other week, because Casey's got some new information. I haven't heard it yet. I'm excited. I'm becoming a huge fan.
00:13:41
Speaker
uh we got a cool little pastor scandal because we love those and i've been spending a lot of time uh paying attention to the uh kendrick drake bullshit their whole beef and i love it it's my favorite thing that's ever happened in pop culture in my lifetime uh so we got some big topics today but
00:14:00
Speaker
I just wanted to take a brief moment before we dive into some of these deeper topics to talk about a really fun situation that happened with me at work. Because occasionally my kindergarten students say some of the funniest fucking things I've ever heard in my entire life. And we have this little boy and he's small. He is small for a kindergarten and he is adorable. That just this like quiet, mild mannered, sweet little boy
00:14:29
Speaker
And we get an email from a parent whose daughter rides the bus with this boy. And the mom is like, this boy is saying all sorts of horrendous things to my kid. And she's like, I feel uncomfortable typing some of the things that he's saying. And I know the daughter. I know this girl. She's a first grade student.
00:14:54
Speaker
And this boy is a kindergarten student that's half her size. And I'm like, this is insane. There's no, something has to be, something has to be wrong here. So we call down the first grader and we ask her, is it so-and-so? She's like, yeah. And we're like, she must think it's the wrong kid.
00:15:13
Speaker
So we pull up the picture in our, in our system and we're like, is it, you're talking about this boy right here. And she's like, yeah. We're like, Jesus Christ. All right. So we call him down to the office. Okay, buddy. What are you saying mean things to so-and-so on the bus? And he just looks with these sweet little eyes and he nods his head. Yes.
00:15:34
Speaker
like oh you are and he's like yeah and we're like what what did you call her on the bus and he goes I said she was a fucking bitch it gets better then we go we go uh
00:15:56
Speaker
And did you say anything about her mom or her parents? And he he nods and said yes. And we go, what did you what did you say about her mom? And he said, I said, your mom's fat. And we go, oh, yes. And then he goes, I said, your mom's so fat, that's why you don't have a dad. Oh, my God. And the horrible thing is this girl does not have a dad.
00:16:24
Speaker
Uh, at least mom is not wheat. This mom is a very small lady. It probably would have been twice as insulting if that was the case. Um, at least it's not grounded in like anything that could be perceived as real for this first grade girl. But we're like, Oh my God. And even hearing him say these words, it's hard to not like,
00:16:48
Speaker
it's hard to not laugh a little bit like you don't not there you you definitely do later yeah you definitely can't is that kid is what a ruthless kid i couldn't believe it he's looked so sweet and so innocent and he's just like yeah your mom's a fucking bitch and she's so fat that's why you don't have a dad it's like god damn it
00:17:11
Speaker
Oh, he hasn't even hit his rotten years yet. Like he's like six years away from being the worst person ever born. I know. I know. He's going to be sick from Toy Story with an R rating. I hope he bounces back. I hope he finds a straight and narrow path because he's such a sweet kid. Oh, God. Dude, so it's funny, like,
00:17:39
Speaker
April and I will go, we like won't go to a concert for, I don't know, months, a year, something like that, long period of time. And now we're gonna, we'll have been to like four in like three or four weeks within the next like week or so here.
00:17:56
Speaker
So, uh, the first one we went to was in Wichita and we saw, uh, kingdom of giants and Chelsea grin. And then last week we went and saw veil of Maya, uh, nothing more and wage war, which was an interesting show. Cause we kind of went to see veil of Maya cause we're both like pretty big fans of it. April loves them. So.
00:18:24
Speaker
It was one of those where we hadn't seen them live before. We were very excited and they did fine. They play their songs and that's it. It's complicated instrumentals. They're clearly really gifted musicians, but it just wasn't super exciting to watch.
00:18:45
Speaker
and so then this band Nothing More is touring with those bands and they're kind of a weird fit for this show because you've got like you know metalcore bands through and through and then Nothing More is kind of like
00:19:04
Speaker
Radio rock sort of uh, you would you would hate them. Yeah That was like the only thing I could think was never planned was like Sam would hate this Like resonate with you the most you're like
00:19:22
Speaker
That your number one thought when you see you know, I it's rare that you've been in a situation but like I think Sam would really love this It's like Sam would hate this. I definitely know what you don't like and you don't like nothing more So there you know, like the lyrics and stuff are a little corny like I've listened to him before but The vocalist is this just like
00:19:50
Speaker
Adonis of a dude. He's like built like Michael Phelps and He's got this crazy vocal range and he comes out like shirtless all covered in grease paint and stuff and like the whole you know Beforehand we were like man. This is gonna probably be rough because all of their stuff is like super high and I don't know how anybody's gonna sing all of that stuff, you know, I've been to shows before with bands like that and It's
00:20:20
Speaker
generally like you can tell when they've been writing stuff above like what's a sustainable range for them to perform. This guy kills it. I mean like every note he's just like pitch perfect, he's running around all over the place and stuff like that and like you know where you've got Vail and Maya that like just kind of got up there and played their songs.
00:20:45
Speaker
Like these guys have this whole stage show that they've, you know, coordinated and they bring out like extra drums and they do like this dueling drums thing. And like, it's, it's not what you would typically see it like a metal core show, but it was, it was fun and entertaining to watch. Which I think there are shows that lack fun. I'm noticing that. I feel like that's what I'm noticing now as someone I've been going to a lot of shows for a while now.
00:21:12
Speaker
I took a long break, and now that I've been going to them, there are so many shows that just aren't that fun. First of all, if it's a bigger band, the venue I can go to, they overpack it, and you can't have fun. You literally just have people pushing by, you spilling beers on, you'd be like, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. They're like up at the front, but them and all their friends run out of beer, so someone has to run back, grab beers, and shove their way to the front again. It's like, fuck you, if you walk back for beers, you can stay in the back.
00:21:39
Speaker
I don't know if that's an appropriate way to feel. I feel that way for sure. It pisses me off to literally not be able to watch a show without getting like bumped into every like 30 seconds. It's like, that's why I end up trying to go up towards the pit is not because I like to mosh, but when you're there, it's actually there's more room is more room and people aren't like brushing past you.
00:22:05
Speaker
you might have to watch out for like the random windmill kick or some shit but like it's shows like when they're too busy I don't know a lot of shows just aren't that fun and then you stand back and you watch them and you're like it sounds like it doesn't listen to them on Spotify but just a little bit louder
00:22:23
Speaker
And it's nice when you see people bring something to the table, when they have an energy that's fun and exciting, when their stage presence is good, when they engage the crowd in a way that's meaningful. I don't know. Yeah. And they clearly put a lot of thought into how they were going to perform the stuff to make it dynamic and draw people in and stuff. Because I think there's some of that metalcore culture that doesn't really
00:22:49
Speaker
I think that was out of style back in the day. It had to be real chaotic and wild and just kind of dancing around and stuff. But there wasn't a lot of showmanship to it, I guess. But through that point, it's been all these younger, fit, hot dudes in all these bands. And Wage War is up next. And I don't know what Wage War looks like.
00:23:19
Speaker
I was thinking like, it's funny because you just, you hear music and you have an idea of what people look like. And I was expecting kind of like the Zoomer athletic wear with tattoos, you know, that, that kind of thing. Like that's popular right now.
00:23:37
Speaker
I hear wage war I don't I've never really listened to wage war I've known of them obviously for a while because it's just a name that's been around forever like they've just been around but never listen to them and I don't even know what they sound like and it wage war has such like a beat down hardcore name to me like just yeah and it's not it's it's got a little of that to it
00:24:00
Speaker
But like, it was just funny because I was like, I had this idea of what was I what was about to walk out on stage. And then it's just like a bunch of giant ogres. They're like, you know, just like big dudes and clearly like not in shape. They're just like there to their
00:24:23
Speaker
there to play their songs and do their thing, you know, and stuff in like, they're like, we're wage war from Ocala, Florida. And I'm like, okay, if I get it, that matches up. This is like Central Florida people. I'm I appreciate it. And I'm very excited now. And then like, it was so much fun. They were great. They were fantastic. But it like then we last night we went to
00:24:48
Speaker
It was like Norma Jean and Bad Wolves and POD, which I was very excited about seeing. I love that POD is on tour with Norma Jean that fucking rips dude.
00:24:59
Speaker
Dude, they were great. And like, but it's so much fun to watch people at shows and just like, like people watch and see who's there because there's so many like clear archetypes that are there. And plug and plays. We talk a lot about the plug and play personality types and they're prevalent at shows.
00:25:18
Speaker
Well, Bad Wolves is kind of on that like what Finn Mckinty would call like the like the state fair military wife, you know, radio metal band. You know what I mean? Like deep voice and lots of clean vocals and vibrato, you know, and like chuggy breakdowns, but like a lot of melody and clean and stuff. And
00:25:44
Speaker
And then pod which is like an older fan base that you can pick out the pod fans in the audience and like watching these people wearing shorts. It was a lot of just like dudes that listen to what was the station that was there was like.
00:26:03
Speaker
95.5 the riff, you know, and they were like, before the pod comes on, they like bring out like these two chicks that are like all tattooed up and they're wearing like, clearly like their rocker girl outfits. And oh, they called them their, their name for them was like fish nets under shorts. Was that part of it? There was plenty of those in the audience. That's for sure. I think if you say rocker girl, I'm just thinking like crop top or like,
00:26:33
Speaker
in fishnets, undershorts, purple hair maybe, definitely a lip ring. That's my- It was in that vein for sure. And they're like-
00:26:44
Speaker
Like, Hey guys, I'm, I'm, you know, Mojo in the morning from 95 five. And I got the, uh, I got the rock squad girls here to help me draw up winner for this prize or whatever. And, but dude, like watching that crew, like the, the radio fans and people who were there to see like bad wolves, like try to make sense of what's happening when Norma jeans on stage was so funny.
00:27:13
Speaker
And like they're pretty a pretty good natured about it like they're everybody's trying to get you know Keep with it and they're clapping when he tells them to clap and kind of like head begging a little bit and stuff but like you can tell that everybody there is like What is this?
00:27:30
Speaker
That is such a bizarre mix of bands. It is. It's been a while since I've gone to a show with a build that strange. Most of the time they make a bit more sense than that. The one that stuck out to me recently of just bizarre and didn't fit was when I went and saw Holding Absence. They had Capstan open.
00:27:58
Speaker
And they're like pretty heavy ish. I mean, I guess they used to be heavier, but they're like, you know, maybe some, I don't know. They got metal core elements. They got like post hardcore elements. They got.
00:28:09
Speaker
Right. It's whatever. But and then it was Casey and Casey's just like boring. Sorry, if anyone likes Casey, it's just like we're just like sad and not we just play and it's quiet. It's not that energetic. And it felt so weird going from like high energy to like Casey and then to holding absence, which is just kind of like a post rock band. But I don't know who's booking some of these things.
00:28:38
Speaker
I don't think that lineup made much sense at all. I like Holy Absence and I like Capstan and so I was good with it, but it didn't feel like a cohesive show by any means. Yeah. One thing I will say is the Rocker Girls in the fishnets and shorts or like the fishnets and little skirts, they love the part where you flip off the band.
00:29:05
Speaker
They can't wait. Dude, the minute that the guy, well, there's a point in most radio rocks sort of hardcore band type things where the singer just flips double birds at the crowd during a breakdown and stuff. And those chicks, they are so pumped. They're like, I know this part. Bird, bird, bird.
00:29:35
Speaker
And I saw some very cool t-shirts, I sent you a picture of one, it said- Yeah, and you shared your story too. Yeah, it was like, if you're easily offended, then- I don't remember, what does it say? If you're easily offended, then stay home, Snowflake. And the lady wearing it was like,
00:29:56
Speaker
It had to be like mid forties and she had to like speak to your manager haircut and just clearly not there having a good time. Like she was there with her long haired husband who was.
00:30:09
Speaker
you know, gyrating and flopping. Who talks about snowflakes or put snowflake on a shirt is absolutely you can't you're absolutely one of the most easily offendable people in society, conservative, liberal, don't give a fuck. Everyone if you're a conservative person, you put like stay home snowflake or whatever the fuck, everyone's a snowflake.
00:30:35
Speaker
You could in three words figure out how to ruin their day easily. Oh, yeah. And same with liberals. Free Palestine. Or as your liberal, it's three. I stand. No, that's four. I stand with Israel. Yeah, that's true.
00:30:52
Speaker
I don't know what just don't put snowflake on your shirt and you won't be a target for people. I like I try to like I sometimes start to think of myself like subconsciously in those ways and then I realized like how easy it is for me to just get bent out of shape about nothing like
00:31:14
Speaker
I don't I don't know is it does anybody really not care what people think right I don't care I care let when it's the I'm easily triggered by family members saying dumb shit that will get me fucking worked up but
00:31:31
Speaker
strangers I just don't care about at all like I don't know I like I like you know I try to cut you in line I yes but I stood my ground like a true American
00:31:46
Speaker
But if you're driving through town and there's like a pro-Trump rally, and I mean, I went through one a little while ago, I forgot to post pictures of it. There's a dude dressed up, he's got a mask on, like Trump dressed as Trump, doing a Trump impersonation. It actually looked more like satire, and we couldn't figure out for a moment if he was anti-protest or part of the protest. We weren't sure. And that shows you the inception nature of what they're doing.
00:32:16
Speaker
No one can tell at this point if this is real or a joke. So let's just go with it. That's so bad a joke. But he's like at the bullhorn. He's like wrong. Wrong. Like just saying dumb Trump shit like not no meaning no point behind it. And I'm like is he making fun of.
00:32:34
Speaker
the Trump rally people is he making fun of the people like holding the probe Trump signs or is he part of them it did turn out he was part of them but it's just if you're gonna do the voice and wear the clothes and the goofy mask and say the things he says that should be the moment you recognize that
00:32:53
Speaker
the guy you're voting for is the biggest fucking moron on the planet. You literally stepped in his shoes and that shows that you barely have two brain cells to rub together because you stepped into his shoes and quoted him the way he talks and were like, I think we're bringing people to our side, guys, we did it. It's like you're voting for Ron Burgundy. No fucking shit, dude, for real.
Political Satire and Controversies
00:33:20
Speaker
It's like you just go to the ballot box and write give me your tots on your ballot Speaking that's a good transition actually because we have to check in with Christy now I She's having a rough couple of weeks. Yeah self-induced Honestly, it makes me mad that I don't
00:33:47
Speaker
I, like, part of me wants to run for some sort of office in my area just because I look at what's going on in the world and I go, I can do that. And then I go, that's what everybody thinks and that's why things are real shitty. So I should just kind of fuck off, I guess. But I, I just, the everything that like all this goofy shit makes it seem like the barrier to entry to try to do something good for someone other than yourself is like really low.
00:34:15
Speaker
It really is like just the spectacle is all any of this is anymore. Cause like there's still like decisions being made and policy being decided. It's just not in Congress. It's, you know, Biden administration cronies who nobody voted for, you know, determining what our policy is going to be towards Israel and stuff like that, you know? Right. So, so Christie, we talked last week about Christie Noem
00:34:45
Speaker
and uh, you know, she's got a book coming out. Uh, I don't know when exactly it drops today or, or this week, but, um,
00:34:55
Speaker
It's just one of these hacky political books that all these politicians make. I was listening to a couple of different reports about this today. I think the best explanation for any of this stuff is that politicians can't be paid to show up at events and stuff like that.
00:35:17
Speaker
But there's a loophole which allows them to collect royalties related to their books so that they can do, you know, speaking engagements and, you know, book signings and all of this kind of stuff. And it's just a big money laundering scheme.
00:35:32
Speaker
Right, because the event you're going to is like, we will buy 1,000 of your books to put out to sell in order to get you to speak at our event. And then you go, OK. And then the event's over. And after seven copies got sold, they throw the rest into a wood chipper. Yeah, like, wow, we did exceptionally well in Azerbaijan. One oil tycoon bought 25,000 copies.
00:36:03
Speaker
But so this, this, all of this is a joke. Like these people don't write these books. They, they work with a ghost writer who just puts it all together for him. And basically like, if you buy one of these books and read it, because you're actually, if you, if you were invested enough in one of these charlatans to buy and read their book in, in like earnest, then you gotta do, you got some examining to do.
00:36:30
Speaker
I mean, cult leaders are missing prime real estate because those people are just an easy, easy pull. Right. So the story last week was that Christy Noem, she's got this book coming out. She sent out some advanced copies to different publications. The Telegraph published an article about Christy telling a story of how she killed her puppy.
00:36:57
Speaker
She made the hard choice to kill her puppy after it was the dog's name was cricket It was a German wire-haired pointer 14 months old She was training it to be a hunting dog in quotations and after a bad hunt they stopped at a neighbor's house and She claimed that cricket like attacked their chickens like a serial killer just munching one after the other and and
00:37:22
Speaker
And serial killers are way more discreet than that. We know that. That's why it's such a bad example. You're right. They hyper focus on one victim. Yeah, you're talking about a spree killer. Yeah, it's more like a school shooter, you know? You stupid moron, Cristiano. So because, you know, as she sat there with the owner of the chickens who was literally in tears, she realized that
00:37:53
Speaker
There was a hard choice that had to be made and she had to take care of business. So she takes this 14-month-old puppy out to the family gravel pit, which is a thing that they have, I guess, and shoots it in the head. She's telling this story in her book as if it's like, this is an example of the tough decisions that I'm willing to make because I know what's right.
00:38:18
Speaker
And then she also killed a goat. Yeah, I was gonna say killing the dog didn't get her wet enough, so she had to immediately go and assassinate a goat.
00:38:26
Speaker
And as an example of her resolve. I'd say it's pretty pagan to sacrifice a goat like that. For real. Spilling goat blood. Witchcraft. Witchcraft. So yeah, the article went viral. People are like, oh my god, you're a lunatic. You shot a puppy? Like, you're out of your mind. Like, there's so many better options for that situation. And it's a puppy.
00:38:53
Speaker
You idiot. So she's, of course, been on the defensive and just, you know, like, oh, it's fake news. It's the liberal media, you know, this, you know.
00:39:05
Speaker
article section of my book was taken out of context because these people want to paint me as a villain and this and that and the other. Like, oh, you just forgot that you couldn't make it. You could adopt it out as a family dog. Right. I mean, literally any other context. Oh, my God. So there was another article published, which they looked a little further along in the book.
00:39:30
Speaker
This is one of those things, too, where you're like, these are ghost, right? These publications are like stretching this out as much as they can. Right. Because he's publishing this book. I feel like if I was a publisher and you got to that part, you'd be like, look, we have a bit of a problem, but they just went with it.
00:39:48
Speaker
That's nuts. Because no one cares what's in it. Because it's not a real book. It's just a collection of stupid paragraphs to play. Is it Amazon publishing? There's still money in it, regardless of whether or not it's valuable. The crazier it is, the more likely it is to make money. Like if it was benign, they'd probably lose a lot more on it. It's probably the best thing that could happen to the publishing company. They're probably making money off this, actually. Yeah.
00:40:17
Speaker
Nobody cared what Kristi Noem had to say until they found out she was a dog murderer. So in another section of the book, I thought this at first, I thought this was a statement she made after all of the controversy, like doubling down on it. But this is actually another part of the book. She says,
00:40:35
Speaker
quote, what would I do if I was president on the first day in office in 2025? Thanks for asking. I happen to have a list. The first thing I'd do is make sure Joe Biden's dog was nowhere on the grounds. Commander, say hello to cricket for me. But my dog, Foster, would sure be welcome. He comes with me to the Capitol all the time and loves everyone. Oh my God. And this is, if you haven't seen the stories, Joe Biden's dog, which I don't, he probably
00:41:05
Speaker
He probably doesn't even know he has it, but it's a German Shepherd or something like that named Commander. Very presidential. It's been a number of people. The dogs clearly got some behavioral problems and probably shouldn't have been in the White House. Joe just lays in his recliner at night and his dog gnaws on his leg and he has no clue.
00:41:28
Speaker
right. So yeah, she basically insinuates that she she would shoot Joe Biden's dog in the head if you know, if given the choice, say hello to cricket for me is like the most ridiculous like the coldest
00:41:47
Speaker
like most off-putting thing, especially after like a week of trying to like paint this whole thing is like, you know, sometimes on a farm, you have to do ugly things and it's part of life on the farm and stuff that is like, sell out a cricket for me commander. Boom, boom, boom, boom. But this wasn't the only stupid thing that came up this week. So there's another section of the book where she talks about, um,
00:42:17
Speaker
Just she's she's listing off like things that you know, I know the other situations where she's been tough. And she talks about like, how, you know, that was especially the case when she met North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. No way.
00:42:38
Speaker
Yeah. And he most, he definitely underestimated me, but he didn't know that I was used to standing down little tyrants because I was a children's pastor.
00:42:48
Speaker
He wanted to prove her worth so he lined up a bunch of puppies and said, if you can kill all these, I'll trust you. And she was like, duh. But so so she goes on Facebook, which which you don't have to Google anything to go on. She's she's she hasn't met Kim Jong Un, like one of the most reclusive, like
00:43:12
Speaker
Hermit kingdoms in the world that almost nobody has been to and America has like no diplomatic relations with like she clearly has not met Kim Jong-un Right people lost their shit when Trump went to meet with him. It was like no one does this. What are you doing? He's a pariah Right, which I mean, I don't know I feel different I guess I I feel like that's a ridiculous idea like we shouldn't treat
00:43:39
Speaker
other nations that way and maybe we wouldn't have such bad relations with them but like it's just it's so absurd that she like wrote this in her book and then she's getting she's on face the nation and she's being questioned about it.
00:43:58
Speaker
It's like an interview, news show. I forget who the anchor is. It's a network that it's associated with. Fox News, Newsmax, some shit like that. Where's the independent? I'm trying to think of where, a purist on CBS has faced the nation on Sunday. Okay. So, in this interview, dude, it's such an awkward. All you have to do is Google face the nation, and the first thing that shows up is, Governor Kristy Noem says,
00:44:27
Speaker
that she's like front and center. So the lady goes, so did you meet with Kim Jong Un?
00:44:37
Speaker
And watching the tap dance is so funny. She's like, well, when this was brought to my attention, we made amendments and took care of it and this and that. And she's like, so you didn't meet with Kim Jong Un? And she's like, I met with many world leaders over the years. I've met with a lot of world leaders from all over the place. So many. I can't even remember.
00:45:07
Speaker
all the ones so you didn't meet with kim jong is that what you're saying she's like i'm not gonna get into the details of what i discussed and who i met with and things like that is just like and then she goes on her twitter and like she's like
00:45:26
Speaker
You know, so and so interrupted me 26 times during my interview with her, you know, but you don't see them doing that when, you know, AOC or Nancy Pelosi is on here. There's two separate rules for conservatives and for liberals when you're on these fake news shows. Oh my God. That's infuriating.
00:45:47
Speaker
And it's funny because even if like, if like a liberal goes on Fox News, right, they're constantly interrupted. But that's not even interruption. That's like legitimately like, I'm just asking the question you're not answering over and over again. You said this in your book that comes out tomorrow. Is this a true thing? I'm not going to get into details about what I talked about to who. It actually makes me wonder if
00:46:13
Speaker
the ghost writer writes this book and puts a bunch of bullshit in there and then just like wonders if they'll read it or if they can get it through. Did she not read it? Did she not think she's gonna be questioned on that? Like that one is, that's what everybody's asking is like, how does this happen?
00:46:32
Speaker
That's an unbelievable statement. Okay, not only is this her book with her name on the front, but she recorded the audio book. So she read all this stuff out and recorded it in the audio book. And still, still she's on here getting asked if she actually met with Kim Jong Un and acting like, oh, well, this was just brought to my attention. Oh my god.
00:46:57
Speaker
She's incredible. She's an incredible specimen. And I'm guessing at this point, she has zero hope of clinching vice presidency or the potential vice president role for the vice presidential candidate for Donald Trump.
00:47:15
Speaker
Yeah. He's moved on, right? That shit is sailed. Yeah, okay. It's toast. I don't think she was standing real well before all of this, and it's definitely not happened now. So apparently, according to breaking points and some other things that I was listening to, anybody who's from a state with... If you're a governor from a state with a heartbeat law or something like that, real strict abortion regulations,
00:47:40
Speaker
Supposedly you're out of the running for Trump's VP. Like he's trying to distance himself from that. Oh, interesting. That's a good move. He's so much better at knowing which way the wind's blowing than the Democrats. It's frustrating. He doesn't have any principles that are like, you know, uncomfortably tethering him to bad ideas. Like you can just switch today, you know?
00:48:04
Speaker
at any moment and and then all of his supporters will just like run cover for him but well what he meant the last five years when he said the opposite of what he's saying now what he meant was and they just make some bullshit up and they're all like uh-huh it's embarrassing he's literally like you just put whatever you need to see on him and then be happy
00:48:28
Speaker
That's how I feel. Like when I see like people really being like going to bat for Joe Biden, like over the years. Oh, here's look at all the he's accomplished, blah, blah, blah. It's like it's just funny being on a, you know, more of a leftist than anything. But when you're when you hear people think they got you good when they're like, Joe Biden's barely accomplished anything. Well, it's like I don't.
00:48:54
Speaker
I don't think you know who you're talking to at this point. I'll give Joe Biden his first year in office as moving in the right direction.
00:49:04
Speaker
everything after that has been aggravating as fuck. And I'm not like, and that shows the black and white thinking of non-thinking people who think that they're actively engaged in politics or just everything comes out in one thing or the other and you're like, oh my God.
00:49:24
Speaker
I just want to stop and have a conversation with you. All the reasons I agree with you and don't like Biden are going to be reasons for you to hate me more, but I'd rather you understand me than just assume that I'm aligned with this goofball. I know. It's terrible.
00:49:45
Speaker
It's so, I mean, yeah. I'm embarrassed. Just since October 7th, like just the, like you could put all the rest of it like in a bag in your closet and not think about it, right? But like just the reaction to October 7th and like the just unconditional support of Israel above all else. The fact that we're spending like, I forget, it's like $200 billion or something like building this pier to bring like small amounts of aid into Palestine while
00:50:15
Speaker
simultaneously like our ally, the Israelis have like 10 or 12 separate inroads into the country blocked, which would be a way more effective way to get stuff in. So we're funding like this peer that is worthless.
00:50:29
Speaker
to bring in way less aid than actually needs to be there while also selling the Israelis the bombs that they are dropping on these things.
00:50:54
Speaker
but it's not saying enough. Oh, cause he hasn't turned Palestine into a glass parking lot. Okay. He's not doing enough. Oh my God. Like this is the most conservative. This is the most conservative thing. I think a democratic presence done in like, I don't know, in my lifetime, when you think of like,
00:51:12
Speaker
I should say the most conservative thing. That's the wrong way to put it. It's the most it's the most aligned with the conservative party on an issue the Democratic Party's ever been.
00:51:25
Speaker
in my lifetime while the Republican party simultaneously just acts like they're not doing what they want them. Like, I don't know what else they could do. It's hard to imagine being any more of a war monger in supporter of Israel than he is. I don't know how he could do it more or better than anyone who in the Republican party
00:51:52
Speaker
No. And like the great lengths that they're going to, to like try to shut down criticism, you know, like the, I mean, I, you know, I don't blame people who are not following political news closely because it's so frustrating and it doesn't do anything for you, but like.
00:52:13
Speaker
At the same time, it's important stuff. This is life or death stuff right now. The House passed a bill this week that will eventually go to Congress and then to Biden, who will definitely sign it. If the hope against hope that Congress turns this down, that would accept
00:52:35
Speaker
The such-and-such Holocaust remembrance organization's definition of anti-Semitism and it's basically like any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism. It's the line of criticism of the state of Israel. The state of Israel is anti-Semitism. And it would basically like allow them to defund these
00:52:55
Speaker
You know, these universities and stuff that allow, you know, like pro-Palestinian stuff to go on. It basically labels any anti-Israel nation state of Israel speech as hate speech. It's crazy. It's, it's so nuts. And I don't have a better explanation of it right now. I didn't, I didn't come prepared to like dive into it.
00:53:22
Speaker
But like it just go take a look, you know, look at breaking points or rising or, you know, any decent outlet that's had like fair coverage of the, of the, the war in Gaza. And like this bill is absurd and it is like anti-free speech to the hilt. And in the house, I think there was 70 Democrats that voted against it. So the vast majority voted in favor and only 20 some Republicans voted.
00:53:52
Speaker
Against it. So like they are they are in lock step on this stuff all the people who have been whining about free speech on campuses and all that's it like All of that's out the window now because it's their guys, you know, it's it's yeah, it's Israel. It's not even Israel. It's the Netanyahu government that that you can't criticize and Yeah, that's a better way to put it. It's it's infuriating to watch
00:54:19
Speaker
people who have championed free speech just turn their back on it because they don't care about it. We've known that they don't care about it. They call criticism of America anti, like they call that treason and shit. And it's just like, whatever. I'm just so sick of it. It's so exhausting. And this is like when you go kind of like full circle and like the horseshoe theory comes into full effect when it's like,
00:54:48
Speaker
I start sounding like, even though in actuality conservatives don't practice the way that they talk about it, we see what they're doing, same with liberals, but I start sounding like the people that I don't like because I go, you know what, fuck it. People can say whatever the fuck they want, even if it's awful.
00:55:11
Speaker
And it's better than this alternative. It is better than this alternative. Any time they shift to any time there is a shift towards you can't say this or that it does. It does seem to make things worse, even if you do find yourself in alignment with it. And it just shows how unprincipled these people have been from the start. It's so fucking frustrating. But for it didn't come to talk about that. Casey, I feel like we have to pick
00:55:39
Speaker
I feel like we have to pick between stories because we're going to be here. I know what we do and I know how tangential we can be. We're going to be here for a whole nother hour if we don't pick one story. I'll tell you what. How about if I let me do a cursory overview of this case and then we will jump into it because I don't I don't I don't have the resources to really like go deep into everything that's happened with this yet.
True Crime Discussions
00:56:04
Speaker
But Sam Sam's wife
00:56:08
Speaker
Actually like brought this to our attention, but there's a story I'm sure a lot of you have heard of it that's been getting a lot of a lot of You know headlines and stuff about a pastor in South Carolina in Myrtle Beach that is Being
00:56:29
Speaker
that is under suspicion of having something to do with his wife's death. And it's, there's not like a real clear cut narrative here because like, you know, that, that, so according to him, she committed suicide. His name. We have his name. Yeah. John Paul Miller. And his late wife is Micah Miller.
00:57:00
Speaker
who was a Wichita girl. Oh, no way. So, Pastor Miller, he's a scum, regardless of whether or not he had something to do with his wife's death, he is a total scumbag. You get that Mega Pastor scumbag vibe. That cadence makes us all shrivel up inside. Right. So, he's 44 and Micah, his wife, was 30.
00:57:29
Speaker
And every little detail that you find out about it just makes it that much weirder and that much harder to believe that there's not foul play going on here. So to give you just a couple of cursory details here, John and Micah met in 2009 and became friends. And this is according to her obituary, which I think he wrote, I believe,
00:57:59
Speaker
Um, which in 2009, Micah was 15 and he was 30. Yeah, that's, I was trying to do the math in my head, but I was struggling. So thanks for that. John was married to another woman previously. They had five kids together. And so Micah was stepmom to.
00:58:21
Speaker
His his five children They had been going through some marital struggles There it just looks like it was a really like ugly split and It seems to indicate that there was some abuse going on We're not sure exactly what kind of abuse but like there's allegations that maybe he was sort of that she might have
00:58:49
Speaker
been forced to take certain medications that she didn't want to. Now she also like got her up on paper. Right. She does on paper have like a history of, of mental health struggles and stuff, but it's also hard to tell exactly like how many of those were, you know, under the coercion of John Paul. It's just really tough to tell some of the details here, but, um,
00:59:18
Speaker
So Micah committed suicide, quote unquote, I don't know, about a week ago at a state park up in North Carolina. She had not been living with John Paul Miller. They had been apart for several months. They had both filed like
00:59:39
Speaker
orders of protection or not. It's not like a restraining order. It's like South Carolina doesn't have like a legal separation, you know, instead of like in lieu of divorce. So you can file these like economic orders to, you know, like your
00:59:57
Speaker
trying to get a court order for financial support from your spouse. He filed one first, which is weird because they, you know, he's the pastor of this church and she worked for the church. Um, she filed one more recently here and according to family members, 48 hours before she wound up dead, she had served John Paul divorce papers. Now,
01:00:27
Speaker
That as far as I can tell is not confirmed, but it does her family is not buying the idea that like she ended her own life. Yeah. And how did she, how do they, how did she end her own life? Gunshot. Right. Which is I, I would say an immediate also like when you have other questions, it's fairly common for men to kill themselves by
01:00:55
Speaker
by gunshot, it's way less common for women to commit suicide in that way or to die by suicide in that way. Right. Now the local, the coroner up there where she passed away did rule that it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
01:01:16
Speaker
Now that doesn't, I don't know, it's not the end all be all, you know? Like if you're drugged and your arm is intentionally pointed in a direction, like you, we know what that means. We, we get the undertones of what that doesn't tell us. Exactly. Like it doesn't, uh.
01:01:35
Speaker
doesn't end all discussions. But part of what's caused some ripples and made people really start looking at John Paul is just his weird behavior since this all happened. And so I want to play a couple of clips here from the Sunday when he made the announcement that his wife had committed suicide.
01:02:01
Speaker
Wait, real quick, I was looking for the stats on suicides by firearm. And it looks like it's not as low as I thought. It was 55% of men and 35% of women, and this is from 2022. So that is higher than I thought. So it is within, I mean, if we're doing benefit of the doubt, it's within the realm of possibility for a woman to reasonably die in that way.
01:02:31
Speaker
without it being nefarious. It's not incredibly likely, less likely statistically, but I just wanted to put that out there. The first clip I'm going to play here is John Paul's sermon on the day when he announced that his wife had passed away.
01:02:51
Speaker
And keep in mind, he did, he made that announcement at the very end of the church service. So up until that announcement was made, this is what was going on inside the church. Lottery. You just won the lottery, whatever it is. And your relative says, God, this is amazing. Why would you do this for me? And God says, I love you. I didn't do this for you. You see 300 years ago.
01:03:18
Speaker
Your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents were listening to this tall, charming, humble pastor. What the fuck? And he told them that they'll give their life to Christ, that God won't just take care of them. They'll take care of the ones that come after them. And so I love you, but I didn't heal you for your sake. I did it with the promise I made to them.
01:03:49
Speaker
So basically like, you know, eons from now, God is going to help your relatives win the lottery because he made a covenant free with you for sitting in John Paul's sermon. God damn. Even if there wasn't murder involved, like, Oh my God, that sucks. Get out of here. So he goes from that.
01:04:12
Speaker
from that very normal mega church pastry sort of sermon with jokes and levity and fun and, you know, a little like, yeah, to this. This is immediately after the clip that we just listened to. We're not gonna do an altar call today. Instead, I'm gonna have you stand up and I'm gonna make an announcement. And after the announcement, I'm gonna ask that you,
01:04:38
Speaker
You leave church quietly, and don't talk about the announcement here in the building. Please, if you can't see, I can stand your feet. Before I make the announcement, I also want to say that my request to you is that you will continue to come to church and serve and give for the next little bit. I'm taking a little bit of a break, and I don't want to have to worry about the church. My break may be a few days, a few weeks. I don't know. I got a call late last night. My wife has passed away.
01:05:08
Speaker
And yeah, it was self-induced and it was up in North Carolina. And we're going to have a funeral for her next Sunday here at 3 p.m. And so it's all I can be at. I'm just kind of going on adrenaline right now. So y'all pray for me and my kids and everybody. And she was, she wasn't, y'all knew that she wasn't well mentally and that she needed medicine that was hard to get to her. And so I'm sure there'll be more details to come, but just keep our family in your prayers.
01:05:38
Speaker
It's so gross. My immediate thought of him dragging his kids to church that day, knowing that their mom had died the night before. What kind of sick fuck shows up? What kind of socio fucking path shows up the next day for church and gives that goofy ass, useless ass sermon. Yeah, it was so important. People needed to hear it so badly.
01:06:07
Speaker
Oh my God. I just think that the way that he delivers it, like the, the, you know, I just, here's what I need you to do. I need you to stand up and shut up, listen to what I have to say and then quietly exit and don't talk about it. Okay. Hey.
01:06:25
Speaker
Don't talk about it. And also, I want you to continue to give, continue to serve. I don't want to worry about the church while I'm on my siesta here. You know, my wife's dead. You know, my wife that was the youth pastor and the worship maid minister and the children's pastor and the graphic designer, all these things.
01:06:47
Speaker
You know in the lady that you guys knew and were friends with and had a relationship with who's been like an integral part of this church for years and years and years and also was a person with some struggles and things like that like she's dead. And I waited to tell you all I made you all sit through this bullshit sermon and then told you like
01:07:09
Speaker
if she if she's part of this community you lead you you lead with that's the first thing that said and that's the last thing that said i just keep i just keep thinking about like you know the same kind of questions you ask about like christy gnome like a person who's a psychopath or a megalomaniac like their outward reactions to things the emotions that they portray and like and and reflect outward like they're
01:07:35
Speaker
They're just like, they're a facade. It's an act. That's the result of learned behavior of watching other people and trying to like emulate the things that you think normal people would do. Right.
01:07:51
Speaker
you couldn't get it more wrong than what he's doing. It's insane to make this announcement in that way after your stupid sermon and then to also be like, yeah, you guys knew that she wasn't right and she probably wasn't taking her meds. Yeah, yeah.
01:08:13
Speaker
it's so bizarre and then like he's done some interviews and stuff since which i didn't get to clip but like he he he's a lunatic like he's in in the way that he tries to like modulate his voice to make it sound like he's like tearing up or something like
01:08:33
Speaker
Oh, it it jumps like an octave. It's very strange sounding. And I don't know. And so and there's so many details to this because this guy, he already kind of has a girlfriend from what it looks like. Another lady who was in the church who also had a spouse that passed away. And not only that, there's there's some there's some pictures of them together.
01:09:01
Speaker
Before the pastor's wife died, he still has his wedding ring on, all that. There's pictures of them close together. It looks like this relationship started prior to his wife's passing. Right. And so her husband was this guy, Chris Skinner, who I guess like 20 years ago had had like a tragic accident. He was in a car wreck, supposedly like a drunk driver or something hit him.
01:09:30
Speaker
And he was paralyzed pretty much from the chest down. I think he had limited mobility in his arms and hands, but not much. But he had gone on to
01:09:43
Speaker
You know, really like live a pretty inspiring life. He was a motivational speaker and just like a real vibrant guy. And I guess he went to the pool all the time. He liked to go down to the pool and his, and he had some sort of a chair, you know, that he was in and stuff. He tipped over. Was it a town pool? Was it like a local pool? It was like a communal pool. Yeah. Yeah. And he supposedly like tipped into the pool and drowned and there was nobody around to like.
01:10:10
Speaker
Rescue him and and like I don't know the exact timeline of some of this stuff. So it doesn't necessarily like It's just weird circumstances. There's not like there's not like a clear present like oh, yeah He died two days ago, too, you know, right, but it's just sort of strange and Yeah, dude, it's just so much about this case is
01:10:35
Speaker
weird like she had mica had been complaining about like you know she had said that she was afraid for her life that if she wound up dead you know it wasn't her she wouldn't do that she said that you know she thought people were following her and tracking her whereabouts which like
01:10:55
Speaker
You know, at first that could easily be like, Oh, well that, you know, maybe she was a little paranoid and stuff, but apparently he actually admitted that in a text thread that he had hired like a private investigator to follow around. And also if you do, if you are struggling with your mental health and you feel these things and you find out they're true, that's not going to help and
01:11:24
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The problem with this is like, if you're struggling with your mental health and you say things like this, the opposing party can report it as, it's because she wasn't on her lithium, right? Like, oh no, she wasn't right. And then you go, and then you admit to a couple things. So then even, like then it becomes the possibility that both things could be true at the same time, right? She could be saying this, I'm worried because X, Y, and Z happened.
01:11:52
Speaker
And it might have and he's like, well, that's because I I mean I admitted that and Then she just really went off the rails with her mental health and that's oh, yeah Yeah, it's dude. Oh my god Tires slashed and then in some sort of a text thread like he apologized for her tires
01:12:16
Speaker
So wacky stuff going on. And then apparently she had told friends that, you know, her husband wanted to reconcile and she was, she had been living in Kansas, probably, probably in Wichita. And, uh, she went back home saying that her husband had decided he wanted to reconcile or something like that.
01:12:36
Speaker
Now there's just questions around the whole thing. She, in several videos, she alluded to abuse and stuff going on in her marriage. John Paul and his sermons continually cites these examples of unnamed other pastors whose circumstances sound remarkably similar to his.
01:12:57
Speaker
you know about a wife who fled and didn't want to you know but he just couldn't divorce her he couldn't do it he couldn't bring himself to it but he hired a private investigator to go find his wife he's talking about all this in like the context of some some pastor friend of his that he knows
01:13:15
Speaker
The whole thing just it stinks and I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen, but He's clear like the the true crime community is is Oh, this is gonna be a podcast going to be a podcast. Oh
01:13:33
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. It's wild shit. I mean, at this point, you're just watching it unfold, like no arrests have been made. It's all nefarious, but it's, I mean, it's all, it feels nefarious, but it's all circumstantial evidence. The true crime community does not care.
01:13:51
Speaker
no they don't and honestly true crime media i mean i'd say circumstantial evidence jerks dicks harder than anything else for sure it does that is the ultimate lube like i watched several different like tick tock videos about this today and like there's some of them where you're like
01:14:10
Speaker
This is exploitative. Yeah. True crime is exploitative in general. And like, I mean, us telling this story is kind of exploitative. Like it's, when you're consuming this kind of content for entertainment's sake, like there's an element, we're all playing kind of a crappy role in it, but Woody, it is what it is. Right. But you just, you just got to remember that.
01:14:38
Speaker
when you're getting very invested as if it's a TV show. But yeah, there's clearly some people in those, you know, that run those true crime TikTok channels and stuff that are, they will just make hay out of any little thing, you know? Yeah. So we still have some time left. Yeah. You are very excited. I am. About the time we have left.
01:15:05
Speaker
We're going to take a quick pause because I'm going to go pee before I wet my pants like a wee lad.
Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake Feud
01:15:12
Speaker
Okay. All right. So Kendrick Drake beef. I love this. I love it. I love it. I love it. And I didn't get into it too late. I know it started like a month ago.
01:15:25
Speaker
I'm a newcomer to it and boy, this is some fun shit. So I went through a little bit of like the whole history of Kendrick and Drake because I'm not like a mainstream rap guy. I've always hated Drake from the beginning of Drake. I never watched Degrassi.
01:15:45
Speaker
But Aubrey Drake Graham has never been someone whose face I've even liked. I just see it. I go, you kind of just don't look serious. I don't believe you at all. I don't believe any of it. Just I've always been surprised by his stardom.
01:16:02
Speaker
I don't get the mass appeal, but all that aside, I went back and looked at this because I think Kendrick, I mean, this isn't me. Most people think Kendrick is one of the greatest rap lyricists of all time. I mean, to pimp a butterfly is usually where people go to and they're just like, I was going to say as little hip hop stuff as I listened to, like,
01:16:29
Speaker
I got really into that album for a while when I was traveling. I would just drive around listening to it all the time. But Dam was great. Mr. Morrell was great. I mean, I don't have a lot of experience with anything Kendrick before to Pimp a Butterfly.
01:16:47
Speaker
I went through a rap era but not with anything like that art rap like indie rap shit that you know you go to when you live when you've lived your life in the fucking metal under like metal world underground music whatever you like I don't know I
01:17:05
Speaker
I know I've known throughout my life plenty of like mainstream rap uh your radio hits I enjoy it but I don't invest myself in it uh and I didn't invest myself in Drake because I just feel like fuck Drake but uh so there will be a bias here there's going to absolutely be a bias but I think it's well I think it's well warranted so anyway just a brief history of like
01:17:32
Speaker
Drake and for anyone who doesn't know, I don't know how you couldn't at this point. Drake and Kendrick have been going through this beef that's been going on in the past few days. I mean, past month, really, honestly, the past few days has been a lot of tracks dropped too, but since April, um, since mid April, it's really blown up, but
01:17:56
Speaker
I wasn't sure. I'm like, where is this coming from? I didn't know where it started or why this like attack was launched. So I wanted to get an idea of the history of them. So just like real quick, we'll try to get through this. And we're going to start in November of 2011. This is when Drake's third album was coming out and it was called Take Care. And on that album, Drake featured Kendrick.
01:18:25
Speaker
I think it was Drake's sophomore album that was like critically acclaimed and then they were like, can you do it again? And it was like then he did take care and they're like, he can, we love him. So that was November of 2011. Drake's third album features Kendrick in February of 2012.
01:18:45
Speaker
Uh, Drake invited Kendrick to open for him. Uh, he was doing the club paradise tour at that time. And, uh, it was only Drake's ever second headlining tour. Um, and that was the tour he did following the release of take care. So obviously he liked Kendrick. He featured him. He goes, this guy's legit. I want to have him open for me on my, my, my second headlining tour ever. Um, that was February of 2012.
01:19:15
Speaker
October of 2012, Drake did a feature with ASAP Rocky.
01:19:22
Speaker
uh, on a song called fucking problems. Um, and Drake and Kendrick and, uh, and then Kendrick had an album in 2012. Also that was his good kid, mad city album. Um, Kendrick and Drake. Uh, he had Drake feature on a song called poetic justice on that. And that was October of 2012. And that was their last collaboration.
01:19:49
Speaker
So in August of 2013 is when Kendrick kind of first throws a little bit of shade at Drake and several other rappers. It's not a real diss and you'll see why it kind of gets written off as just like that typical like, you know, like
01:20:07
Speaker
puff your chest rap shit. So the other rappers included in this was like, it's J Cole, Meek Mill, ASAP Rocky, Tyler, the creator, Mac Miller, and Big Sean. And he says, I got love for you all, but I'm trying to murder you, trying to make sure your core fans never hurt you. They don't want to.
01:20:26
Speaker
They don't want to hear not one more noun or a verb from you. So Drake gets asked in an interview like, oh, what do you think he meant? And he didn't really. Drake was kind of just like, yeah, whatever the fuck about it. Right. He's like he was a little arrogant about it, too. He equated to Kendrick being ambitious, which is a typical like that. That's like typical like rap ambition. Right. You're going to murder all you, whatever, like hyperbole metaphor.
01:20:54
Speaker
It's pretty normal to talk about just like dunking on everyone. So he kind of equated to that and he said, uh, you know, came back with his own slight arrogance and said, Kendrick's not murdering me at all in any platform. So when the day presents itself, I guess we can revisit the topic. And again, we're in August of 2013, 11 years ago.
01:21:15
Speaker
And from pretty much 2013 to 2016, there was like some subtle shots back and forth, but really like there's no mic drop moments or anything like that. Just like nothing that anyone even thought much of. It's only really people are talking about a revisiting now in light of what's going on. Um, so it was back in October of 2023 that everything picked back up. So we're talking 10 years after like.
01:21:42
Speaker
this moderate to slight diss that Kendrick had in
01:21:52
Speaker
Drake's response 10 years later in October, Drake puts out, it was a collab on with, with J Cole. It was on Drake's most recent album. I didn't write the name of the album down. Oh yeah, I did for all the dogs. That's his most recent album. That's right. And the song is called first person shooter. And strangely on J Cole's line in it, he says,
01:22:22
Speaker
Love when they argue the artist MC, is it K dot? Is it Aubrey or me? We the big three, like we started a league.
01:22:30
Speaker
I don't really get that. I'm not a rap connoisseur, so I'm just gonna defer to people who might know what the fuck is going on there. But, I mean, it's hard to say that Drake, Aubrey, Drake, Graham, that's why he says Aubrey for anyone who doesn't know. That's why, I mean, we get it. Drake is a rap superstar. I mean, it's as mainstream rap as you get. And I, you can't argue with the numbers. I mean, his,
01:22:58
Speaker
This guy's fucking raking it in. He's one of the biggest rappers of all time. J. Cole is not. J. Cole I feel like is a rapper's rapper in a lot of ways. I feel like he's regarded as a great rapper.
01:23:12
Speaker
I know he's regarded as a great rapper, but he doesn't pull the same numbers as Kendrick or Drake. But anyway, in March of 2024, so now we're really creeping up on recent time, Kendrick responds to this on, he was on a feature
01:23:31
Speaker
He featured on a track called Like That and it was like a track put out by, I don't even know who Metro Boom is. So again, out of the loop, I'm here for the drama, not because I'm a rap guy. And Metro Boom in future.
01:23:50
Speaker
What Kendrick says on it, he's responding to this big three comment from J Cole and Kendrick goes, uh, fuck sneak this in first person shooter. I hope they come with three switches. Um, motherfucking the big three. It's just big B and he ends the verse with the member of the album was called, um, uh, what was this? When I say it was for the, for all was it, what the fuck did I say it was for all the dogs, all the dogs. Yeah. Um,
01:24:19
Speaker
So then he ends the verse with, for all your dogs getting buried, that's a K with these nines, he's gonna see pet cemetery. So it's just a kind of throwing shade, right? He's distancing himself from Drake big time with that. He goes, I don't want it really, I don't really want affiliation here.
01:24:43
Speaker
So Drake seemed to have a couple days later made comments about this at one of his shows where he was like, I'm doing great. I'm the king. Just very like I got my head up acting like none of this shit bothers him. And then the following month, April last month, April twenty twenty four.
01:25:03
Speaker
Drake drops a diss track called Push Ups and he goes after a few other artists as well. Some make sense like he goes after Metro and Future who had Kendrick on their track where Kendrick dissed him.
01:25:20
Speaker
He kind of throws some shade at them, too. But he also throws shade at the weekend, which I've not really been able to make any sense of. I have a friend who's a big weekend fan, a big rap fan who's more engaged in a lot of this than I am. And he's kind of he's in the same boat with no real understanding of why he's throwing shade at the weekend. He seems like he should be left out of all of this. So then.
01:25:49
Speaker
He mostly hits Kendrick with some like, his jokes are about Kendrick being small. It's kind of dumb and dorky shit. He talks about his like shoes. I think it's a mess when he might talk about shoe size, but then he throws some shade at him for like doing a verse with Taylor Swift and Maroon 5. And it's just kind of like, does the whole clout thing of like, I'm bigger than you, you ain't shit, all that kind of petty stuff. Which cements my place in the Kendrick camp.
01:26:16
Speaker
Yeah. It's like, I don't know if I care about this a ton, but hey, you're going to throw shade at Taylor, like you're out. Yeah, sure.
01:26:24
Speaker
It it's funny that he does throw shade at Kendra because it's not like it's not like Drake isn't mainstream rap, right? Like he's not super stardom. So it'd be like your petty for doing stuff with people who like is maroon 5 as big as Drake at this point? Probably not. So it's kind of a petty thing to be like you're doing you're just doing this shit for
01:26:50
Speaker
for class. I don't know. It's just real silly. It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. But then Drake doubles down another distract that same month called Taylor made freestyle. And this one is really interesting because he goes a bit harder. Kendrick a lot more direct and a little bit more creative.
01:27:09
Speaker
But what he did was he used AI to make himself sound like Tupac in Snoop Dogg. So he had a verse where he sounded like Tupac and a verse where he sounded like Tupac. I mean, would I just say that right? Yeah. A verse where he sounded like Tupac, a verse where he sounded like Snoop Dogg and he did it, used AI to make his voice sound like theirs.
01:27:32
Speaker
Uh, that is a weird choice. Yeah. And like the whole, I can't be regarded very well. I wouldn't think so. Right. And the whole like song projected like from Tupac disappointment and Kendrick for not trying to like clap back to his last diss track. Like, Oh, what are you a cow? Or like, how could you not respond to that? Trying to like solicit engagement, um, by kind of doing some low blow bitch move and
01:27:59
Speaker
Pox estate comes after him with a cease and desist. So that song scrubbed. I don't I can't I didn't I didn't find it. It's scrubbed. I would have liked to have heard it. I wish I heard it before it was gone, but I didn't. And again, it's whatever. So Drake just keeps fucking poking the bear, right? He won't stop.
01:28:20
Speaker
I don't know where, it's like he does push-ups, he does tailor made freestyle, and apparently that's when Kendrick was just like, alright, you know what, fuck this shit. So on April 30th, Kendrick drops Euphoria, which is an incredible dunk on Drake. And what's also fun is the reason for the name, the speculation is that he picked Euphoria because Drake,
01:28:48
Speaker
is an executive producer for the show Euphoria. So by naming it that, typing into Google Drake and Euphoria, you're going to get Kendrick's song and you're not going to see his show. So like a strategic move there, which pretty fun. And he fucking rips Drake apart. He just comes out swinging. So I did like copy some of the like the lines here and I'm going to go through some of the ones that I thought were like really brutal.
01:29:19
Speaker
because it's not like this light-hearted pussyfoot shit that Drake was doing. And honestly, I'm gonna go through these fairly quickly for the sake of time, but everyone just keep note of the order in which these tracks come out and listen to all of them because it fucking rules.
01:29:38
Speaker
So Kendrick goes, I hate the way you walk the way you talk. I hate the way that you dress. I hate the way that you sneak this. If I catch you, I can't read rap lyrics good. So just fucking bear with this white piece of shit doing this. If I catch, if I catch flight, it's going to be direct. We hate the bitches you fuck because they confuse themselves with real women. You can take problem with that if you want. And notice, I said we it's not just me. I'm
01:30:06
Speaker
what the culture's feeling, how many more fairy tale stories about your life till we've had enough, how many more black features till you finally feel that you're black enough. And shit, that one's rough. That one's rough. So Kendrick coming after Drake's blackness. That's
01:30:25
Speaker
That's something you don't usually touch. Another bar, surprise you wanted that feature request. You know that we got some shit to address. I even hate when you say the N word, but that's just me. I guess some shit is just cringe worthy. I even got to be deep, I guess. But so he comes after Drake and that comes up a lot in this song where he's just like, I hate when you say the N word again, calling his blackness into question.
01:30:56
Speaker
Then he goes, why would I call around trying to get dirt on? This is so strange to read. You don't know. I don't know. And words is that feels so dumb to say. I don't know. Whatever. I'll just kind of roll through this is on cringy as possible. God damn it. Y'all think my life's rap. That's oh shit. I got son. I got a son to raise, but I can see you don't know nothing about that. Wake him up. You don't know nothing about that. Tell him how to pray. You don't know nothing about that.
01:31:25
Speaker
Thank giving him tools to walk through life day by day. You don't know nothing about that. Whatever. I'm not going to keep reading it. He's just coming after Drake. Drake's absence from his son's life being like, you don't know, intensely personal. Yeah. Um, and then he dumps on OVO, which is Drake's like label crew thing calls out all of his cred and talks about his skill and how he treats women and shit like that. And then immediately.
01:31:51
Speaker
Like less than 72 hours later, he drops another track called 6 16 in LA, which was produced by Jack Antonoff, which is notable because Jack Antonoff has done a lot of work with Taylor Swift. So the idea is that because of Drake's call out for him for doing shit with Taylor Swift, he picked a producer that works closely with Taylor doubled down. Yeah.
01:32:13
Speaker
And this time he kind of fires, uh, like Drake's camp as a whole, the whole OVO boss. Uh, I whole OVO thing has like, uh, he's saying that they have a mole and the addition out dirt on them and that he can't trust his crew and that they're just.
01:32:28
Speaker
They're like the ones telling Kendrick some shit about him, but not too much to read there. Just basically saying, Drake, you don't have anyone that respects you. Everyone who's around you stabs you in the back. They don't give a fuck about you. You're a loser. So then again, that was on May.
01:32:48
Speaker
No, I just jumped so far down my notes. All right, May 3rd was 616 in LA. And then that same day, that same day, Drake releases a track called Family Matters. It was 14 hours after 616 was dropped and Drake goes for Kendrick's relationships. He goes after his fiancee alleging that
01:33:10
Speaker
They got engaged in 2015, but they're not married because he likes to fuck people on the side. It's honestly a really, really mid diss track. Drake fucking is a loser in all of this. He comes out so mid every time and ends his tracks acting like he's on top.
01:33:27
Speaker
Uh, he makes jokes about Kendrick being like short. And he goes, one of his like bars is about how if, oh, is it self defense when you beat your fiance because you're smaller than she is just real like petty shit like that. Not good.
01:33:45
Speaker
Um, so that was May 3rd, May 4th. Kendrick really just goes for the kill and drops it out a track called meet the grams. Again, grandmas Drake's last name. And this song he addresses
01:34:02
Speaker
Drake's son by name and writes this whole like letter to Drake's son about how your father is a fucking loser and that you oh my god it goes so hard it goes dear Adonis I'm sorry that man is your father let me be honest it takes a man to be a man your dad is not responsive I look at him and wish your grandpa would have wore a condom I'm sorry you got to grow up and let that stand behind him
01:34:29
Speaker
Life is hard. I know the challenge has always gone beat us home. Sometimes our parents make mistakes that affect us until we're grown and you're a good kid that needs good leadership. Let me be your mentor since your daddy don't teach you shit. Oh, man, that's.
01:34:44
Speaker
It's rough. So then he goes after his mom and he says, dear Sandra, your son got habits. I hope you don't undermine them, especially with all the girls that's hurt inside this climate. You're a woman so you know how it feels to be in alignment.
01:35:01
Speaker
with emotion, hoping a man can see you and not be blinded. Then he talks to his dad. He goes, dear Dennis, you gave birth to a master manipulator, even using you to prove who he is, is a huge favor. I think you should ask for more paper and more paper.
01:35:16
Speaker
I'm blaming you for his gambling addictions, psychopath intuition. The man that liked to play the victim, you raised a horrible fucking person, the nerve of you, Dennis. Sandra, sit down. What I'm about to say is heavy. Now listen, your son's a sick man with sick thoughts. I think people like him should die. Him and Weinstein should get fucked up in a cell for the rest of their life. He hates black women, hyper-sexualizes them with kinks of a nympho fetish.
01:35:46
Speaker
blah blah blah I'm gonna stop there but he then he ends with fuck a rap battle he should die all these women can so all these live women could live with purpose so he's just fucking over Drake it's verse three I'm not gonna keep reading verse three he is a whole verse that apparently he's saying Drake has a secret daughter
01:36:07
Speaker
uh which wouldn't be un which wouldn't be crazy because drake lied for a while that he had a son drake kind of lied about a lot of shit over the years that just comes to light and he like rolls off his back yeah and then verse four is he just slams drake um tells him that he's basically wearing a mask
01:36:28
Speaker
uh there's no real person under his achievements he's lied about he goes you've lied about your religious views about your surgery about your uh uh ghost writers your crew how you treat women he just goes after him relentlessly
01:36:46
Speaker
And then Kendrick immediately on that same day drops another diss track called Not Like Us, which just further alleges that Drake and all of his OVO crews are, all of his OVO crew are absolute pedophiles.
01:37:01
Speaker
And lastly, it ends with Drake coming out with a song on May 5th called Heart Part 6, which is a play on some of Kendrick's music. I forget. I don't really know. I don't know. I don't know the song titles, but this is where Drake comes out really fucking up because
01:37:20
Speaker
It's not a bad song. I think it's actually the best song that Drake put out like when it comes to just listen ability. But overall, I think Drake is kind of cheap. I think I don't think he I think his cadence is as boring. I think he always often or often sounds the same. And he kind of just keeps the same shit
01:37:43
Speaker
going with this but he tries to defend himself about saying he doesn't have a secret daughter but that was actually a plot the whole time and that people from his crew fed Kendrick bullshit information so Kendrick would write a diss track about it and look really silly and that sounds like a fucking lie.
01:38:03
Speaker
and then he accuses kendrick of being so obsessed with him being a pedophile because on his album mr morale he talks about getting molested and that's why he's obsessed with catching pedophiles oh i don't know if that's the route uh yep and here's why it's definitely not the route because it shows
01:38:26
Speaker
that you can undermine everything Drake is saying here because that's not what the song's about. The song is about Kendrick's cousin is accused of touching Kendrick when he was five and he didn't do it and Kendrick said he didn't do it but people didn't believe him and it fucked up his cousin's life.
01:38:47
Speaker
And that's kind of the song. It's not about Drake. I mean, it's not about Kendrick actually getting molested. So Drake is just wrote this whole bars, these bars about something that he's just totally off on. And then he goes on to say that, like, Drake basically says he's so famous that he couldn't sleep with underage girls. He would get caught immediately, which is also not the rap.
01:39:13
Speaker
Uh, I want to kill Joe Biden's dog. And then he accuses the same crisis management team. Yeah, no shit. And then he accuses Kendrick of doing all of this for clout chasing because Kendrick has a new album coming out, even though
01:39:31
Speaker
Drake is the one who dropped two diss tracks in a row and just kept like poking at Kendrick, begging him to respond because he probably wanted the clout. I mean, the numbers, the number of plays on these songs on Spotify over the, just when they came out two fucking days ago is unbelievable.
01:39:53
Speaker
So we know, I think it's obvious what Drake's doing. And I think maybe Drake stepped into some shit. And my hope is that this ends with, I mean, it feels like Drake did some shit, was trying to push him. Kendrick had distanced himself from Drake for years. And it feels like after getting poked Drake, Kendrick is like,
01:40:13
Speaker
I'm just gonna pop off and end your fucking career. That looks like Drake's, my God, that looks like Kendrick's M.O. at this point. It's to just end Drake's career. Drake comes after, in the same song, he comes after Kendrick with a few other things like saying his fiance's baby is with one of Kendrick's producers and shit like that. I don't know, it's all just, it's all a little late.
01:40:42
Speaker
in the game after you got ripped apart for four songs in a row with like a lot of shit, I mean, with a lot of heavy accusations for you to come back with some like weak ass cover story about why Kendrick thinks you have a secret daughter and then it was a plot to make him look silly or that you're, why you're not a pedophile. Cause you'd obviously get caught as like the most pedophile thing to say when you're rich.
01:41:11
Speaker
So yeah, that's that's quite a reason to not do it. It's crazy. Everyone should listen to the songs as they've come out in order. It's so fun. I I don't know. I mean, what we haven't had a cool like rap beef like this in a while. I don't count machine gun Kelly and M&M's for sure. I don't count that. Yeah, I hate machine gun Kelly.
01:41:37
Speaker
boring and Eminem is like a clear victor immediately. He was better, a clear victor. I really don't like him either. I'm fine with Eminem. Machine Gun Kelly is just like the most posery type of person out there. He's cringy as fuck. He's such a pick me tool. Yeah, yeah.
01:42:00
Speaker
Oh man, I said, so I don't remember who was watching it. I was looking at, I was watching a podcast thing earlier and, uh, they were talking about this like Gucci interview or something, or I forget which it was like Vogue or something like that, but they went with, they like go to machine gun Kelly's house and he like puts together three outfits and he is unbearable. Yeah. He's a horrible human.
01:42:29
Speaker
He's just like the most annoying like junior hire. He's like talking about going to a sporting event. And he's like, Oh, you know, it's like, you know, showing up in a kill is like a good way to get beer dumped on you and pick a fight with a bunch of people. And I'm totally down for that. And it's like, shut up. Oh my God. Shut up. Yeah. You have not been in a fights and you're only like this because you lost so many of them in middle school. That's why you're like this. Yeah.
01:42:59
Speaker
I don't know. Anyway, Kendrick is a goat. Drake is a bitch. I don't know. This isn't, it's not like the, you know.
01:43:10
Speaker
Back in the Tupac Biggie days, obviously some of these feuds ended in death. People shooting at each other. We're not down that road yet, but I don't know. You call someone a pedophile enough times and things might get precarious. I hope this doesn't end in death, but if it does, let's hope it's Drake. All right. Yes. Is that fair?
01:43:39
Speaker
I hope it's a lot of petty game going. I hope it ends with Drake career ending. I hope I really hope Kendrick just that would be the cause rap battles don't F often end with like a good like
01:43:53
Speaker
in this person one they just kind of fizzle out uh well not obviously Tupac and Biggie but it's just so much of it is manufactured and I don't feel that way about this I think it seems like Drake was trying to manufacture some shit and Kendrick just called him on it and was like fuck you dude I'm here for character assassination now
01:44:12
Speaker
and I just I would love it if it ends I don't think it will but I would love it if it ends Drake Drake's career or like enough of these callouts make some people start being like oh yeah actually I spent this weird night with Drake and maybe like shit starts like coming out and maybe he ends up in jail I don't know gets gets Epstein gets steamed just get steamed Drake
01:44:39
Speaker
You don't want to get steamed. Yeah, it's so fun. I love this shit. I'm having a good time with it. Yeah. Well, uh, thanks for listening, everybody. Uh, as always, if you liked the show, share it with somebody. Somebody cool is not going to be lame about it. Um,
01:44:59
Speaker
There's a lot of lame people. Yeah, we didn't even get into that. We tangled with some people on Instagram. We'll talk about that. Just stepped into a horn, it's nice. Yeah, let's talk about it. It was really dumb and unnecessary, but it was kind of funny in the end. It's fun. But yeah, share it with somebody, leave us a review wherever you're listening to it. And yeah, we'll be back next week with an interview.
01:45:28
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and we'll talk to you then.