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145 - TMNT (2007)
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"So it's like Hailey's Comet… only monsters come out!"
Cowabunga, dudes! With Mutant Mayhem dropping in theaters this week, we're going back to 2007 to talk about the last time an animated Ninja Turtles hit the silver screen! How do we feel about this IP? Is this a sequel or a spinoff? What's the name of the guy who voiced Krang again? The answers to all these questions and more await you in this latest episode!
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Transcript
Morning Routine and Introductions
00:00:22
Speaker
I'll say good for you.
00:00:25
Speaker
Cowabunga, and welcome to the disenfranchised podcast for that podcast, all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film. I am your host, Stephen Foxworthy, and joining me, as always, America's favorite fearsome fighting teen, it's Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Hi, Stephen. How we doing, man? I'm just a little, a little tired.
00:00:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's early. We're doing an early recording today because you're busy. You're a busy boy. I woke up. Almost an hour ago. Eight thirty. It's nine nine twenty two now. I woke up at seven thirty. It's nine. It's eight twenty two now. Oh, yeah, because I'm because you're in the you're in the I'm in the future. You're in the future. I'm an hour and I'm an hour in the past. Yeah.
00:01:31
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But yeah, so and of course, Brett is out working on catching 13 monsters in order to get rid of his immortality. We wish him a safe and speedy return. In the meantime, Tucker, what movie are we talking about today?
00:01:42
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that's pretty cool.
TMNT 2007: Cast and Hollywood Influence
00:01:49
Speaker
We're talking about 2007's animated feature film TMNT.
00:01:56
Speaker
TMNT from 2007, of course, because Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem is out in theaters this weekend. And so we figured why the fuck not TMNT. I'm going to go see it too. Of course you are.
00:02:10
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TMNT directed by Kevin Monroe, written and directed by Kevin Monroe, and starring Patrick Stewart, Mako, Chris Evans, Sarah Michelle Geller, Kevin Smith, Ziyi Zhang, Lawrence Fishburne, Mitchell Whitfield, James Arnold Taylor, Mickey Kelly, Nolan North, John DiMaggio, Paula Matioli, Kevin Michael Richardson, Ted Tadasquiore, and a number
00:02:37
Speaker
of just well-known, well-established voice actors, including but not limited to Jennifer Hale, Greg Griffin, Jim Cummings, Greg Baldwin, Dee Bradley Baker, Tara Strong, Phil Lamarr, Jess Harnell, and the great Billy West. What a cast. What a picture.
00:02:57
Speaker
I agree. That's that's that's a hell of a voice cast. Mm hmm. It's nice to see. It's always nice to see Darkwing Duck. Mm hmm. And and Stimpy is always nice to see as well. Absolutely. I as I was listening bender benders in there. They're bender bending out of the guys. Absolutely. And of course, with Nate Drake is in there also voicing Raphael, I believe. Who is what do I know Nate Drake from uncharted, dude?
00:03:27
Speaker
Oh, Nolan North. Yeah, Nathan Drake. Yeah. OK, I've never heard anyone shorten Nathan Drake's first name. You threw me off a bit. That's why I didn't know you guys. I didn't know you guys were such good friends. I mean, we're tight. We're tight. He just, you know, he lets me call him Nate. What can I say?
00:03:50
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But but yeah, like an impressive voice cast from what I'm given to understand the the entire cast was just voiced by established voice actors until the Weinstein's came along. The Weinstein Company just slapped their logo and name all over the front of this movie. And they were the ones that insisted that we cast Patrick Stewart and Sarah Michelle Geller and Chris Evans in this movie. So there you go. Which is annoying.
00:04:22
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I mean, it's a typical Hollywood thing, though. They did it with future episodes of this podcast, Scoob 2. They do it with everything. Yeah. Where you're like, well, you people who have been doing the voices of these characters for years, you're not well established enough. You're not well known enough. No one cares about you. So let's get a celebrity to do your job.
00:04:44
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Do you remember before, like the Lion King or like maybe before Aladdin when we just didn't even know who was in Disney movies, just nameless voices? Yeah, I mean, they were in the credits and all, but like who cared? I think I think honestly, it's Pat Carroll in The Little Mermaid is kind of the first step in that direction. And then, of course, Robin Williams in
00:05:12
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Aladdin meant we're getting now top tier Hollywood talent to do these things as opposed to like as Pat Carroll. I think she was an established name at that point, but.
00:05:25
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I remember my mom being very excited that Pat Carroll was in it. And I remember my mom also being very excited that Robbie Benson was the voice of the beast. Like these are things I remember my mom being very excited about but meant nothing to me. I recognize the voice of Angela Lansbury as Mrs. Potts and Beauty and Beast as well.
00:05:43
Speaker
But like those are all like established Broadway people. And those are like Howard Ashman's gets for those characters. But then you get Robin Williams and Aladdin and that just suddenly like ratchets everything up to like the. Oh, yeah. By the time you get to Lion King, you've got Jonathan Taylor Thomas. You've got James Earl Jones, Jeremy Irons, Fucking Matthew Broderick.
00:06:06
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Now, that movie does establish Nathan Lane and Ernie Cebella. Again, Broadway guys, that does establish them as top shelf talent, which moves Nathan Lane into, I think, that and the producers, I think, moved Nathan Lane into a higher echelon of stardom than he might have known. And the birdcage. Mike Nichols, the birdcage. Doesn't say, yeah, the birdcage, yeah. It wasn't a huge hit, but it did a lot for his career, I think. It really put him out there. And it's a great movie.
00:06:32
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I agree. Birdcage. Great movie. Love it. Wish we had an excuse to talk about it on this podcast. God, it's a great movie. But there was never supposed to be a sequel. So what are you going to do?
Origins and Evolution of TMNT
00:06:44
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But yeah, we are talking about TMNT from 2007.
00:06:50
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Yeah, man. This is definitely a movie we watched. It is the very first full length animated Ninja Turtles film. It is 14 years after the previous film.
00:07:04
Speaker
OK, so here is here's the question. I just want to get this out of the way right up top. There are some fans who speculate that this movie is a standalone sequel to the previous Turtles franchise.
00:07:22
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Well, I don't think you can really argue against that because of the trophy room scene at the end. The trophy room scene and the fact that there's no shredder. But beyond that, it has almost nothing in common with those films in terms of like the origins of the characters or like like Splinter doesn't have like the visual character designs are completely different with Splinter in particular.
00:07:49
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I mean, if, I think if you want to, if you want to believe it, it's there, but I don't necessarily, because again, this isn't Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles four. Um, this is like a completely, it feels like a, a spinoff more than it feels like a direct sequel. Well, I think, excuse me. I think.
00:08:11
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as someone who is still a huge fan of the first film, the first live action film, the first one's great. I think that they get the personalities spot on. Like to me, these these could totally be the same turtles. Okay, even even the voice acting I feel like was sort of
00:08:32
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made to sound a little bit like those original actors from the first film. I think the personalities, the tone is very similar to the first film, but
00:08:49
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I don't know. Like the second and the third film, even though I like the second film because it's fun, they're totally different than the first one. Yeah. And to me, this film feels like a sequel to the two movies in a different timeline where they followed the tone of the first movie instead of going wacky in the second and third one. Does that make sense? It does. And I mean, I think you do that with regard to the second and third films and making them a little wackier. I think you do that due to the popularity of the cartoon.
00:09:20
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Yes, the first film is made off of the off of the comics. Well, the first film was made off of the cartoon, too, that that movie wouldn't exist without the cartoon.
00:09:29
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Sure, but the cartoon had a much goofier, sillier, like all the characters are very much softened. And that's not what that first movie is. Like the tone is very consistent with the comics. Again, I agree. And we should probably do a little bit of history on the turtles, both ours and the history of the just the property in general. Hey, man, I'm I live in I live in turtle country, man.
00:09:53
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Because, you know, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were created in Dover, New Hampshire, which is not far from where I am. Right on. So, yeah, well, let's let's let's go ahead and talk a little bit about the history of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That is the. Brainchild of Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman, who created them as a parody of
00:10:24
Speaker
Daredevil. Daredevil. Yeah, it's a parody of specifically Frank Miller's run on Daredevil. So you have basically the accident that created Matt Murdock, the butt or the the truck crash that gets blinds him and gets the the radioactive waste in his eyes that seeps then into the sewers and falls on some turtles and a rat.
00:10:49
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who then becomes splinter and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. The origin is changed eventually for the movie, but I believe the cartoon keeps it the same. No, it's the opposite, actually. The movie has
00:11:07
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the comic origin in the cartoon Splinter is Hamato Yoshi. He's turned into a giant rat where he started out as human. He turned into a giant rat and he raised the mutant turtles in the movie. They're all just animals and they get hit with the ooze and Hamato Yoshi is Splinter's owner. OK, though I do find it very I really, really love
00:11:34
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when they're doing the origin story for 15 years, when they're doing the origin story in the first movie, when Hamato Yoshi's practicing his ninjitsu and you see little tiny splinter in his cage, like practicing with him. It's like the cutest thing ever. It is. God bless you, Jim. God bless you, Jim. It's wonderful. I love that movie so much. It still holds up on like every level.
00:12:00
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So they're created as a parody of Daredevil. The X-Men, the Teen Titans and funny animal characters like Howard the Duck. So you kind of combine all of those and you end up with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
00:12:18
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And they're named after the four Renaissance painters that created in nineteen eighty three. The first comic, I believe, comes out in eighty four. Self published, self published and very, very limited run. Yeah, regionally. And then they just sold out so quickly.
00:12:35
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Yeah, because it's it was Mirage Comics, which was they they found it. It was their own, their own imprint. That was their label. Yep. And that kind of led to this boom in independent comics and the popularity of these in particular, from my understanding, the TV show starts in 87.
00:12:56
Speaker
Oh, yeah. The toys came first, though, right? Yes, because Playmates saw that comic book and they didn't even see Ninja Turtles, man. They just saw big old fat dollar signs. Right. And then so Playmates has got their their toy line going and all they got to do in those days when you had a popular toy line, the best way to promote it.
00:13:17
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Saturday morning cartoon. We legitimately just did a whole month about that. Yes, we are here on this podcast, much to your chagrin. But yeah, so we.
00:13:30
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Yeah, so they created a cartoon in 1987 that ran until, the original one ran until 1996. Yes, it. There was actually a TV show in production almost consistently from 87 to 2020. There were a few years off here and there, but the turtles kind of have lived and breathed on TV for a long, long time.
00:13:56
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that's the
00:14:19
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Um, a movie from the late nineties that is made by the special effects crew of the Ninja Turtles next mutation TV show. And it's this weird, stupid, disgusting little movie called the item. And I love it. Okay. It's really gross. And I, well, I actually hate it, but I love it because of how much I hate it. Okay.
00:14:43
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Uh, but then you've got the 2003 animated turtles, which the release of this movie kind of coincides with that, but it's a completely different property. Yeah. Um, which they cross over with the 87 turtles in a movie called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles forever.
00:15:02
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Um, and then you got the 2012 turtles, which also crossover with the 87 turtles at some point, which actually I do prefer that crossover episode, uh, because turtles forever was fun, but they, they did that. I mean, the 87 turtles suck, but they, they did them dirty. Even so they did them dirty. Like they made them far more, like far, far, far more cartoonish than you can imagine. If you can imagine that. Pretty hard to imagine. And because of, uh,
00:15:33
Speaker
issues with the studios and stuff, they couldn't get the original actors back. So they had to have sound the likes and that kind of. And then there's a final series. We don't talk about rise. OK, but just for the sake of continuity, there is it does exist. You may talk about it, I guess there is a final Ninja Turtles series that came out between 2018 and 2020 called Rise of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which apparently we don't talk about.
00:16:02
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for some reason, but yeah. Sucks! And then you have the four live action films, which were released in 19. Five total. Right, but I mean, in terms of the ones leading up to this movie. Oh, that's three then, yeah. You've got the original three, which come out in 1990.
00:16:29
Speaker
when the secret of these, here we go, 1990, 1991, and 1993. Which is a big turnaround for a movie as it affects heavy as those Ninja Turtles movies are. Absolutely, absolutely. And then you do have two other live action Turtles movies. The Michael Bay produced Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in 2014, and then Out of the Shadows, the sequel to that one.
00:16:55
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2016 hot take love those movies both. Yeah have not seen that
00:17:01
Speaker
Yeah, the first one is is really fun. And the second one really leans into kind of the world of the original cartoon. Right. Like, I know you get crying and bebop and rock steady finally make their live action. Oh, and you got Medea as Baxter Stockman as well. That one I did know. Yeah, Tyler Perry. Oh, yeah. He's so fun. I like Tyler Perry as an actor.
00:17:26
Speaker
The stuff I've seen him in, I've always liked him. So no matter what I think of the crap that he produces, like as an actor, that man, he does it for me sometimes. All right. Fair enough. Like I've I'm on record is really enjoying him in the film Gone Girl. I think he gives an. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, he's great in that movie. I think maybe the best thing he's ever done. He's also in Vice, like just doing whatever or anyone else, everyone else is doing in Vice.
00:17:53
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that's
00:18:11
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Oh, God. So I guess, Tucker, what is your individual history with? It seems like you have quite an extensive history with the Ninja Turtles.
Personal TMNT Connections
00:18:20
Speaker
Buckle up, bud. Buckle up. Oh, I'm buckled, baby. No, it's not that complicated. It just goes way back. The Ninja Turtles was.
00:18:29
Speaker
one of my big obsessions when I was a kid. It started out with He-Man and then I got a little older and I started getting into Ghostbusters and then when Ninja Turtles came out, holy shit. That was the biggest thing that had ever happened.
00:18:47
Speaker
the Ninja Turtles up to that point in my life. That was the biggest thing like pop culture speaking that happened. Everybody loved the turtles. All the kids. I mean, even the adults loved the turtles. Everybody loved the fucking turtles. Damn Skippy. Yeah. So it was just it was everywhere. And this was kind of like the perfect time for me because this was like late elementary school for me and into middle school. Ninja Turtles is what eventually got me into comics.
00:19:17
Speaker
I saw the first film I won tickets from ninety seven point one when it used to be W.E.N.S soft rock station in Indianapolis from the 80s. I remember it well. I called in and it was I don't know if it was trivia or if I had to be a certain number caller, but I called in and I won.
00:19:39
Speaker
tickets to see the first Ninja Turtles movie at the general cinema at Eastgate. Mm hmm. Little tiny two theater. Yeah. That no longer exists. No, it has not for a long time. I saw it there, the first movie, and it just blew my fucking mind.
00:19:58
Speaker
because I had the Nintendo games and I watched the cartoon all the time, but I'd never seen Turtles like that movie because they were Steven like in the first five minutes. Raphael says, damn, I know. Fucking scandal. Ah, I couldn't believe it. My Virgin here. I know. I'd only heard my mom and dad say that word.
00:20:25
Speaker
Never on television. I never heard a cartoon turtle say it in live. Well, yeah, that movie just blew my mind. I saw the second one at the movie theater as well, which at the time I really loved. But as time has passed, I've fallen out of love with that movie because it is it is fun, but it is also it goes a little too far in the goofy direction. To the point to where I don't think Michelangelo ever actually takes out his nunchucks.
00:20:53
Speaker
That was one of the complaints. His parents said the first one was too violent. The first one was fucking perfect. Perfect. Bold stance. But yeah, just like all things, you know, I've remained. Peripherally interested, I guess you could say in the Ninja Turtles. The point to where when this movie came out, the movie we're talking about today, I went and saw that when it came out.
00:21:17
Speaker
Oh, right on. And I got to tell you, it doesn't hold up as well as I wanted it to. Hmm. But I still think it's really good. There are there are points where the quality, even in the animation seems to kind of dip a bit from time to time. Yeah. There's enough really solid shit in this movie, especially for 2007. Mm hmm.
00:21:41
Speaker
Like I still have a lot of respect for this movie. Like I said, it doesn't hold up as well as I wanted it to. I haven't seen it probably in 10 years. But so I was slightly disappointed when watching it, but I still found myself being like really into it and really excited at key scenes, especially why nothing beats that rooftop fight between Raf and Leo. Ooh, we that's just that's just something that will never leave my memory. Like if I get old and my mind starts to decay, that'll be the last thing that goes.
00:22:13
Speaker
Does it look so good and like the the voice acting? Is spot on and you know, it really does suck that they replaced some of the original voice actors But I will say of the people they replaced them with only Sarah Michelle Geller I don't think is is she's the only one that's not really giving too much effort. Like I love Sarah Michelle Geller But I don't think she was really that into this and you could tell Yeah, I I mean
00:22:39
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Patrick Stewart I don't think ever mails it in like he's always oh yeah he was wonderful and I think Chris Evans I thought Chris Evans was amazing because he really channels Casey from the first movie. I want to I want to get into what Chris Evans was at the point. I would have believed it yeah because he's got that same attitude and the same kind of swagger that
00:23:02
Speaker
Casey Jones in the first movie had even as far as like repeating some of the things that he would say, like the way that he talks to April and he's like always calling her babe and stuff. Mm hmm. Like that was very much a callback to that first film. He does the two minutes for high sticking line from the original film. Cricket, you kind of know what a crumpet is. Don't understand cricket. Yeah.
00:23:28
Speaker
Don't tell me Jose can say go back. Tell me you didn't pay money for this. God, those those early late 80s, early 90s jokes that just dude, tell me you didn't pay money for this. I think turtles was probably my very first big pop culture obsession, not my biggest one, but like my first one for sure. And I was very into the toys. I had a ton of the toys and in fact ended up
00:23:57
Speaker
in one of my dumber moments gave away a bunch of them when I was growing up, probably when I was in middle school, I just gave away a bunch of them, because I wasn't playing with them anymore and didn't really have the nostalgia for them that I probably should have just like, well, I'm gonna I'm a grown up now, so I should probably get rid of these.
00:24:18
Speaker
and got rid of, like, all of my Ninja Turtle toys. I had, like, the carrying case, I had the cheapskate, I had, like, all the main characters, all the turtles, all, like, Splinter, and now all out of box, of course, but Bebop, Rocksteady,
00:24:35
Speaker
Like I had I had so many turtle toys. It was just kind of like if we need an idea of what to get Steven, we get him Ninja Turtles. Now that then led to Star Trek, which then led to Star Wars, which then led into comic books. So like I had it built on itself. But yeah.
00:24:56
Speaker
There was a crossover. There were Star Star Trek Ninja Turtles figures. Do you remember those? I do remember that. I actually had the universal monster ones, too. I was about to say I had one of the universal monster ones. I had like.
00:25:11
Speaker
The Wolfman one, because I get werewolves, me and werewolves. But yeah, I think I think it was Raph. If it was the werewolf was Raph. Probably sure. I also I mean, Raphael was also the best ninja turtle. I don't think anyone will dispute that ever. I agree. He's not my favorite, but he is the best. Michelangelo was my favorite when I was younger. And then as I got older, it.
00:25:32
Speaker
it segwayed into Raph. But yeah, the Ralph Raph is the best of the turtles. It's always been Donatello for me. I mean, that tracks.
00:25:42
Speaker
I don't know. Leonardo is just kind of the boring one. He's like the cyclops of the group. He's the Mario and Mario Kart. He's just the balanced character. Exactly. He's he's kind of right there in the middle. Yeah, he's he is the tether that are the anchor that tethers the other three, which is kind of a boring character to write on paper. But it's an important job. It is. We respect you, Leo. Someone has to do it. And I'm glad he's there to do it for us. Keeping it keeping it real for our sins.
00:26:12
Speaker
But yeah, no, I grew and I don't know when I kind of phased out on turtles. It probably would have been shortly after the third movie. I was definitely not as juiced. I was less juiced about every consecutive film in the franchise. Like I loved the 1990 film, had it on VHS, watched it so much that my father eventually lost the tape. He did that with a few tapes of mine. I think he ended up doing that with
00:26:40
Speaker
the Tiny Tune Adventures, how I spent my summer vacation as well. Oh no, that's such a good one. I love that one. I watched it so many times and that he got annoyed and lost them. Oh no, the tape was ruined. I don't know where it went.
00:27:01
Speaker
Wow, it's gone. That's weird. Yeah, all that. So and I did. I love that movie so much that my dad had to lose it so that I would stop watching it. But and then the second one came out and I saw it on VHS and I was like, I mean, I like that there are other mutants. I like that we get tuck and razor. Do I wish they were bebop and rock steady? Absolutely, I do. But, you know, I wish there were more of them in the movie. Why is vanilla ice here? I don't understand.
00:27:31
Speaker
And then the third movie I was kind of like, it had so little to do with the previous film that I was just very confused by the whole thing.
00:27:41
Speaker
I've still never seen the third movie and I refuse to. I saw the trailer when I was a kid and I was like, nope, that's not for me. I had the the junior novelization as a kid that and I read it at least three times when I was growing up. But like before I saw the movie even. So then I saw the movie. I think I saw the third one in theaters and it's the only Ninja Turtles film to date that I've actually seen in the theater. Poor, poor man. And
00:28:06
Speaker
I just, I was kind of like, I don't know what this is. And so I guess I was not surprised when they didn't make any more movies after that until this one, which came out 14 years later, by which point I had moved on. Like I was, I was a comic book nerd in 20 2007. Like that's just kind of where I was. So.
00:28:27
Speaker
Yeah, not really into this movie, did not watch it for the first time until last night in preparation for this episode. So this is- But you'd never seen this before? No, it's the first time watch for me. And I actually have never seen the Michael Bay produced ones either. Really? You should check those out.
00:28:44
Speaker
They're definitely turn your turn your brain off and have a good time kind of movie. So I mean, don't go into it. Don't think expecting something too deep. But there's a Michael Bay movie for you. Yeah. Yeah. They're really fun, though. I have a great time with both of those movies. The second one really leads in cartoonishness and not in a bad way, I think, like Secret of the Us did in hindsight. Yeah. Secret of the Us is just it's it's just goofy. Now it is. That was my introduction to David Warner. So I will always have it. Oh, yeah.
00:29:14
Speaker
He's he's the scientist guy. Yeah, he's he's the geeky scientist, dude. I think you get them about about the ooze. Yeah, you've got a super shredder in that one who then just like dies immediately. He just he's there and then he just dies instantly. Like I think this was our second one. The second one, though, it is nowhere near as good as the first one is infinitely more quotable.
00:29:42
Speaker
Because there's so many just goofy ass lines in the second one. I'm constantly like a little too raff. Yeah, I. Look, it's raff. Yeah, a little too raff. That's a good line. There's there's.
00:29:58
Speaker
It's kind of like, I don't know, it's just the first movie was so serious and and pretty amazing. And it's almost like the second one is just taking the piss, you know. Yeah. Oh, I'm just like, we're just we're just going to have a good time now because parents hated what we did in the first one. So fuck you. We're just going to fuck around and have a great time. And I hope you like it. Mm hmm. Yeah, like we're basically just going to do
00:30:24
Speaker
whatever we want. You didn't like the first one because it was too violent, whatever. Fine. We'll just we'll just go ahead and do. You know what, Mike, he's going to fight with sausages instead. What do you think about that? Is that better? Is that better? You like that, you dicks? Oh, you know what? My favorite one, though, and I don't say this that often anymore because it's a little dated. Oh, geez. But my favorite my favorite line from that movie.
00:30:50
Speaker
is when Kino is is hitting on those girls. And the girl says in your dreams. And he's like, yeah, when I do, I'll dream of something a little thinner. Oh, God, like, no, OK, no, no, Kino. Do not nag that poor young woman. They were being rude. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. We don't. I'd have to watch it again to see who really is the aggressor in that situation. I think they're probably both assholes.
00:31:16
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Just maybe, maybe just, you know, don't don't harass women, maybe.
00:31:23
Speaker
Oh, God. Yeah, that's and Kino, I think, is the kid from Surf Ninjas. Is that a movie we could cover on this podcast? Probably. I don't know. You know, the way that Kino got his role is he was in he was Donatello in the suit in the first movie. Right. He was the stunt actor for Donatello in the first film. And his dad was a stunt performer as well as I recall. Yes.
00:31:46
Speaker
So yeah, like this is kind of in the family. In fact, I think his dad is in Surf Ninjas also. Probably. Along with Rob Schneider.
00:31:58
Speaker
That's a thing that happens. How the mighty have fallen. No, but was he ever really mighty? I don't know. There was a time there where I mean that that South Park parody exists for a reason, man, because that was just how it was for a while. Rob Schneider was was everything. He was a big deal. Schneider to Durky Durr. It's a stapler. God.
00:32:23
Speaker
I don't know that happened and we all let it happen, basically, is you know, I'll tell you what, honestly, I did enjoy the deus bigelow films. I think Eddie Griffin had a lot of one, a lot of a lot to do with that because my boy Eddie's in that and he's hilarious. And Rob Schneider and him have good chemistry in those movies and they're not good movies, but they are funny and entertaining. At least the first one, the second one, of course, goes a little too far, but still has a little bit of the charm of the first one.
00:32:51
Speaker
Outside of that, Rob Snyder can suck a fuck. Yeah, he is. I don't even know that I will defend the deuce Bigelow film. So he's the he's the weed guy at SNL, though. He's the everything. You could put your weed in it. Yeah. But on the on the flip side of that, he's also the richmeister on SNL. So yes, there's a dark side everywhere. Yes. Richard Rama.
00:33:17
Speaker
Oh, God, what a what a what a terrible, terrible sketch. I do love me some SNL, though, even though I love SNL, too. That was that was one of the that was one of the characters that I can't believe hit like the 90s were weird, man. Yeah.
00:33:36
Speaker
We didn't really have but with all these gas crises and global warming and you know nuclear threats and fascism looming around the corner and all that we didn't have anything you know to worry about so you know of Rob Schneider.
00:33:52
Speaker
That's how you explain Rob Schneider. Like we didn't have we didn't really need to be distracted. So like, you know, the world wasn't on fire yet and he wasn't embracing the fire. So we could appreciate it. I don't know. I was never in on Rob Schneider to the extent that other people were. I think my favorite Rob Schneider performance is Necessary Roughness, where he's basically just doing Rich Meister as an announcer for a college football team.
00:34:21
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I think that might be my favorite of his performances. He has some some good small roles in some Adam Sandler movies. He's the you can do it guy in The Waterboy and Little Nicky for some reasons. That's there's there is there is an entire Sandler verse. He was great in Demolition Man as well, I thought. Oh, a future episode of this podcast Demolition Man. He's he's also in Judge Dred. Judge Dred. A future episode of this podcast Judge Dred.
00:34:51
Speaker
Very exciting about that. Yeah, we're going to we're going to cover both of the Drudge Judge Dredd movies on this podcast at some point. That's a thing we're going to do because they're never going to make a sequel to the Carl Urban one. They're just not. And those are unfortunate. Yeah. And those are the only things he's ever done. Those two things we just mentioned Demolition Man and Judge Dredd.
00:35:17
Speaker
Uh, it's, it's not, but God, um, why would you, why would you want to bring up any of the rest of it? Honestly? Well, not for his roles, at least there's some okay movies in here, but he doesn't really have much to do with them being okay. No. In fact, I think any movie that he's in, that's okay. I don't think he has anything to do with the reason why it is. I can stand by that. Oh, he's in your, you love that movie that everybody hates. You don't mess with the Zohan. He's in that.
00:35:46
Speaker
I mean, it's a Sandler movie, so yeah, he's in it. Zohan is, I think it's an underrated Sandler film. I think that one might be one of the better ones. You know, I've never wanted to see it until you recently said that it was funny and now I want to check it out.
00:36:01
Speaker
I heard a, and I heard a, I didn't want to see it either until I heard a similar, um, a similar notion put forth by my, uh, the blank check podcast month, my favorite podcast. They're like, Zohan's good. And I was like, is it though? And I watched it. I'm like, no, this is pretty funny. Um, so there you go. Don't mess with the Zohan. I think is, uh, is maybe the best Sandler movie.
00:36:23
Speaker
But I hold no nostalgia for like Billy Madison and or yeah, Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore. I have no nostalgia for those because I didn't watch those as a kid. So. Hey, you want to you think we ought to go through the plot on this sucker? Might as well.
00:36:42
Speaker
Go ahead and you go ahead and get the Canadian quarter of ambivalence or whatever the hell we call it. Of indifference indifference. I should write this shit down. The lore is it's too much lore. Where's Brett when you need him? Oh, right. Tracking down monsters. Yeah.
00:36:59
Speaker
The plot in 60 seconds is a part of the show where we recount the plot of the film that we are discussing in 60 seconds or less at the behest of, in this case, the Canadian quarter of indifference. When Brett's here, it's the D six of destiny. Um, but yeah, so we're going to go ahead and Tucker's going to flip that coin. I'm going to call it and I'm going to take his word for it because his camera is not working today. And, um, and, um,
00:37:24
Speaker
Yeah. Well, we'll recount the plot in 60 seconds or less. You got the you got the coin ready, Tucker. I if if if my camera were working, you would see that I am already prepared. All right. And I can't see that because your camera is not working as is established. It's great. Love, love, love everything about this day. All right. I'm flipping it. Call it in the air. Here goes. I'm McCall heads.
00:37:47
Speaker
We have tails, sir. Fuck. All right. We got da moose. You put 60 seconds on the clock then, and I will recount the plot of TMNT in 60 seconds or less. Go ahead and give me the 30 and 10 second warnings per usual as well. All right. Whenever you start, I will start your time.
00:38:10
Speaker
Lawrence Fishburne tells us that Shredder's dead and the turtles are still around. Leonardo's in South America or Central America for some reason, fighting warlords. April finds him because she's finding statues for this rich dude. She brings it back. Leo doesn't come with her, but then joins later. Raphael is a dark vigilante of the night called the Night Stalker. He ends up getting in a fight with Casey Jones and then in a fight with Leonardo.
00:38:35
Speaker
When Leonardo comes back, the rest of the turtles reunite. Raphael quits the turtles. There's this dude named Max Winters, who's like an ancient warlord called Yaltol, who like was immortal for some reason because he released monsters on the earth like a Pandora's box situation.
00:38:52
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And then so he realizes that immortality is a curse. So he's trying to track down these monsters. But in doing so, he brings back the statues, which are actually his brothers. And so they find and capture the monsters, but they capture Leo instead because they want to remain immortal because they've been second frozen in rock for years. I don't know. The turtles band together. They defeat the statue monsters. They take away the dudes immortality and the foot clan to return another day.
00:39:22
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Good job. That's pretty, that's pretty good. Yeah, not too bad. There were probably a few minor points that I made. Yeah. And Casey, Casey Jones and April O'Neill are there too. You hit the broad strokes. Yeah. So I'm, which is what the plot in sixties all about. Like we're not getting into the nitty, nitty, nitty gritty.
00:39:38
Speaker
Um, but yeah, I I'm not going to lie. I did not care for this one. I mean, yeah, was not was not excited about this one. I mean, I was excited to see it because I'd never seen this one before. And I have, again, a lot of nostalgic feelings about the turtles.
TMNT 2007: Critiques and Comparisons
00:39:55
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But like, I just I don't know. Like, I was just kind of like, what are like it felt like a gargoyles movie that was retrofit to be a Ninja Turtles movie is what it felt like to me. Yeah.
00:40:10
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I got to tell you, when this movie came out, it kind of blew my mind. OK. Because in 2007, this looked amazing. Mm hmm.
00:40:20
Speaker
I does not anymore. No. Animation has aged. Unfortunately, most of it pretty poorly. There's still some really solid shit in this movie that looks great. But as a whole, you can't compare this to like across the spider verse. You just can't. Oh, no, no. Or even the new turtle movie that's coming out. Right. Which which also looks to see that fucking insane. Yes.
00:40:45
Speaker
Ice Cube man as the main villain. You know, I'm there. Absolutely. Hannibal Burris. Like you got a great cast on this new all right up in this bitch. Even the Dev Malone guy. I'm not sure if it's before or after Malone, but he's there. It's after it's it's a post Malone. I gotcha. OK. It's a post Malone world. We just live in it.
00:41:08
Speaker
But yeah, I watched, I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut you off, but speaking of that new one coming out, I watched a feature on YouTube talking with the young people who play the turtles and they're all just kids, man. Yeah, between the ages of like 13 and 17. And they were talking to Seth Rogen about the process of
00:41:31
Speaker
having them, you know, have really great chemistry and they just kind of threw them together for a couple weeks and had them hang out and then they had them record with each other.
00:41:43
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like a lot a lot of times, especially nowadays, everybody just kind of does their part separately and they just throw it all in there. You don't get a lot of people standing in a room, you know, reacting off of each other anymore. Agreed. And it shows. Mm hmm. So to have that for those kids, that was it's a really great little video. It looks like those kids are having a blast. It does. And it said a lot of the dialogue.
00:42:11
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was improvised or, you know, changed slightly just because like those kids had sort of over those couple of weeks sort of kind of gained a back and forth with each other. A rapport.
00:42:25
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Yeah, yep. And to sort of fit the chemistry of that, like they changed some of the dialogue. It's it's I'm really excited about this movie because it just seems like everybody's who's involved with it is just really into trying to make the best possible thing. And the cast. Look, the cast looks great. I owe a debris. Rose Byrne, Natasha Demetrio, Jackie Chan, Seth Rogen, John Cena, Seth Rogen and John Cena as bebop and Rocksteady. I'm way into that.
00:42:52
Speaker
Paul Rudd, Giancarlo Esposito, Maya Rudolph, Ice Cube, Post Malone, Hannibal Burris, and then the actors playing the turtles, Nicholas Kontu, Brady Noon, Micah Abby, and Shimon Brown Jr. Like, just, God, what a, what a, what a voice cast on this. Like, I kinda wanna see it just for the voice cast alone. You know it's gonna be good.
00:43:13
Speaker
I need to catch Barbie and Oppenheimer first, but like it's it's it's next on the list after those. So apparently Trent Reznor did the music for this new Ninja Turtles movie. I mean, he's he's he's he's he's doing scores now. He does pretty much every Fincher score. Well, he doesn't feel like he doesn't. I read an article a couple of weeks ago where he says that Nine Inch Nails doesn't really for him doesn't fit into
00:43:39
Speaker
the landscape of today's popular music. That's why he doesn't do any Nine Inch Nails stuff. So that's cool, man. Keep doing scores because they're all great. Yeah. Him and Atticus Ross, like just teaming up and just knocking out some really great scores. Like, yeah, is has he won an Oscar yet? I feel like he's yes, he's won two Oscars. I believe it.
00:44:02
Speaker
uh... cuz he is so academy award-winning composer trent rezner uh... they have a musician and a hell of a guy this dude i don't know if he still has it but the nine-inch nails website used to have all of the individual audio files from every track from every one of his songs and he encouraged you to download them and make new stuff with them remixes songs just use that stuff to your heart's content creatively and i i really think that's admirable for someone
00:44:32
Speaker
who doesn't have to do that. He doesn't have to do that. Right. I agree. But I doing that like he's he's helping people learn music production, helping people, you know, improve their knowledge of music theory. And I just think that's really cool that he does that kind of stuff. You you're you're allowing artists to create art because everyone needs to be able to start somewhere. And if you can help someone get a leg up, then why wouldn't you want to do that? Like, that's that's pretty great.
00:45:02
Speaker
So yeah, Trent Reznor, good for you, man. We love you, Trent. You the man, Trent. But yeah, so that's the new man now, Trent. Sorry, go ahead. Why did you do that? Because it's the fun thing to do.
Spotlight on Actors: Chris Evans and More
00:45:18
Speaker
Is it? We're talking 2007's TMN.
00:45:22
Speaker
T, which they will get to the sequel possibilities later. I do want to talk where Chris Evans is at, because Chris Evans is at the beginning of his really weird superhero run that he does in in the early 2000s. We're going to talk about that that low key superhero movie he did. Julie really likes that movie. What was that?
00:45:48
Speaker
Push? The losers. No, the losers. We have already talked about the losers. We have a previous episode on the losers. But it starts in 2005. He's cast as Johnny Storm in the Tim Story Fantastic Four movie. Oh, yeah. Two years later, he does this.
00:46:03
Speaker
And then the same year this comes out, he's in the sequel to that Fantastic Four movie, Rise of the Silver Surfer, also directed by Tim Story, also featuring Laurence Fishburne. So there are two 2007 films with Chris Evans and Laurence Fishburne based on comic book properties. And then you've got Push in 2009, The Losers in 2010, also in 2010, Scott Pilgrim versus The World. It all culminates in his performance in Scott Pilgrim.
00:46:32
Speaker
And then in 2011, the next year, Captain America, the first Avenger. There it is. And then, of course, the Avengers in 2012, which kicks off his massively popular MCU run, which then culminates in Avengers Endgame in 2019. Captain America, the first Avenger, or as I like to call it, Marvel Studios presents the rocketeer. Yeah, pretty I mean, down to the director, Joe Johnston. Yep.
00:47:01
Speaker
You know that's how he got that job. I would not be in any way surprised by that. I was actually very very disappointed that we didn't get some kind of like even just a name drop cameo of like Cliff Seacourt or something.
00:47:15
Speaker
Well, you probably we just saw the BG flying in the background somewhere that what I would have shit my pants. I don't know if Disney Studios actually was in charge of Marvel at that point. Like, I know they weren't when that say we're not so they probably could not have done so. I think it wasn't until America, I believe was they were still doing stuff with Paramount.
00:47:36
Speaker
At that point, I believe I think Avengers was the first film on the Disney deal. Yeah. You look at the Captain America poster, it is Marvel and Paramount. But yeah, so that tracks.
00:47:49
Speaker
which they all the early MCU movies were paramount. It's set for the Hulk because Universal still own the rights to the Hulk and still do, which is why there has not been and probably will not be a Incredible Hulk movie solo movie with Mark Ruffalo as the star. That's just probably not going to happen. I think we'll get a World War Hulk or Planet Hulk possibly. No, especially with the Ragnarok already happened. I don't want to. We're not going to.
00:48:17
Speaker
I'm just saying, I think we're going to get something, but I think it's going to be an ensemble movie, kind of like, you know how Civil War is technically a Captain America movie, right? But then it's actually Avengers 2.5 or whatever. Yeah, it'll be like The Hulk plus everybody else.
00:48:36
Speaker
I think they're gonna end up doing like a young Avengers thing, and I think he will be the Hulkling stand-in, because there's one episode left in Secret Invasion, we are no closer to seeing Hulkling actually show up. I was gonna say, you know, he does, I don't wanna spoil anything, but he does exist in the MCU. The Hulkling does?
00:48:59
Speaker
The whole sun does. Oh, no, I know. We've I mean, yeah, that's no, that's what I'm talking about. Like, OK, OK, OK. I mean, but we've got all the other young Avengers stand like we've got Kamala Khan. We've got Wanda's kids. We've got Wanda's kids. We've got sort of Isaiah Brad, Elijah Bradley from Falcon in the Winter Soldier and Ironheart.
00:49:20
Speaker
We have Riri Williams now. Like we've got all these character stature. Scott Lang's daughter, like all these characters are in there with Haley Steinfeld's Hawkeye. I don't have baby Kang, but we could very easily have baby Kang. I was going to say he's in there now. So yeah, absolutely. And we'll probably need to recast him soon. I don't remember what baby Kang's name is. I just always call him baby Kang. Iron Lad is what they call him. There you go. Yeah, it is.
00:49:49
Speaker
But but yeah, they're all kind of there in the background. So it wouldn't be surprising if instead of just a Hulk movie, we just get him as part of the Young Avengers roster. Also, we've got we've got Miss Marvel as well, who.
00:50:06
Speaker
She's Kamala Khan. Yeah, I said her. She's been hinted at as possibly being a mutant. Right. That was kind of a big thing in the series as they kept kind of throwing that term around all loosey goosey. Whereas everyone in the know was like, you be careful. Be careful saying that shit. Yeah, you don't follow. If you don't follow through on that, we all go be mad. We're going to be mad. We'll be real bad, real, real mad.
00:50:33
Speaker
The and then Sarah Michelle Geller, you have her as April O'Neill coming off of the grudge to for for that one. Yeah. And then prior to that, she was coming off the Scooby Doo movies, which was Scooby Doo was her coming off a Buffy. So like.
00:50:52
Speaker
She's got kind of these three big franchises, boom, boom, boom, right in a row and then kind of takes a big old step back. Well, I think that's when her and Freddie Prince got married and started having kids, man. And they both kind of took a big step back, I feel like. I mean, she's here's the thing. She's in stuff, but it's nothing that I think any of us have seen.
00:51:13
Speaker
She just, she's doing things. I mean, she's working. In 2007, she also has a movie called Suburban Girl, another one called The Air That I Breathe. Veronica Deserves to Die in Possession in 2009.
00:51:27
Speaker
She starts doing some TV work in 2010, video game voiceover work in 2010, 2011. I mean, she's kicking around doing, she's on All My Children for 60 episodes, apparently. Like, so she's working, just not doing anything that I think we would have known about during that span of time.
00:51:48
Speaker
And it looks like I mean, she did a little bit of producing here and there over the years as well. But outside of that, I think, I don't know, I think after Buffy and her big popularity explosion, I feel like to me, it seemed like kind of a self-imposed exile just because I think she kind of wanted to step back and, you know, raise a family and shit. Like you don't see Freddie Prinze Jr. doing anything after Scooby Doo.
00:52:14
Speaker
He does a lot of voice work like he's like, I think a lot of those Star Wars shows. And then he also does.
00:52:23
Speaker
He also is really involved in professional wrestling, actually. Oh, I had no idea. That's crazy. Yeah, like he's he's like, I think he is a producer. I'm going to look this up real quick. I'm in Chucky. You never would have thought, right? I think he's like a producer on like some wrestling stuff or something. I don't know. Every time. No, he's a new Chucky movie comes out. He's all over the wrestling shows.
00:52:45
Speaker
From 2008 to 2009, so there for the span of like two years, he was a writer on WWE Smackdown and WWE's main event. I got to say that's kind of rad. He wrote 26 episodes. He's credited on 26 episodes of WWE Smackdown. So like that's a thing that happened.
00:53:06
Speaker
that's a way into that good for him and when you can just sit back and like input creatively without having to you know like be there and be in front of a camera and perform and get ready and all this shit like good job man and he I mean he he does he's in he's in a lot of the star wars stuff uh star wars rebels the bad batch like he's
00:53:28
Speaker
I he did this great defense of or this great takedown of toxic Star Wars fans on a podcast. It's kind of made its round on tiktok several times about how people don't understand the force, how no one understands the force and like great, why great Jedi's are such a shitty idea and what balance actually means and all like all this shit. He goes, I know it because Dave Filoni told me he knows it because George Lucas told him. So shut the fuck up. Like it's just really
00:53:57
Speaker
Matter of fact, and I'm just like, God, Freddie Prinze Jr. I love you. You are all of us. Well, I've always I've always had massive respect for both of them, both him and Sarah Michelle Giller. I always seem they always seem very personable and they always seem like such a great couple, kind of like a Hollywood power couple.
00:54:13
Speaker
Yeah, without the power really like maybe they had it I think when they first got together But like they they've kind of taken a step back and realized hey, they're probably more important things than Hollywood career And I mean they keep working. They're still working They're still doing well, and they both they've both done things that they will be living off the residuals of for the rest of their lives They don't have to work ever again. Probably probably sleep
00:54:36
Speaker
Between the Scooby-Doo movies and Buffy, like, Sarah's pretty well set. Even she's all that, you know? And Freddy's in Scooby-Doo movies as well. I know what you did last summer. Freddy's in those. Like, yeah, he's doing okay. So, good for him. Good for both of them, actually.
00:54:57
Speaker
Read and then what do you think about Patrick Stewart as the? The the guy you think is the villain and then turns out surprised he's actually not
00:55:08
Speaker
Uh, I thought that his performance was really good. It was kind of weird because usually I can separate the vocal performance with the, uh, design of the character on screen, but just hearing Patrick Stewart and seeing like a young looking buff dude with hair. It's just a little weird. It is. Yeah.
00:55:32
Speaker
He's great in it, though. He's great. And I would say separate from Patrick Stewart being great in this film, the character design of Winters is amazing. It's just putting the two together. It's just a little it's a little weird. It is. It's weird. It's weird. Sometimes you get wrapped up in it and you forget. But then you remember you're like, oh, shit, that's still Patrick Stewart. And this is a weird.
00:55:52
Speaker
The thing I like about the design is that it's because he's he's supposed to be an immortal. So he's an old man in the body of a man who hasn't aged since that day. So that the fact that it's Patrick Stewart gives you the gravitas and the wisdom of a guy who's been around forever.
00:56:11
Speaker
Yeah. And then but in the body of just, you know, like the Zenitos from from gargoyles. Like I swear this movie is just like it's a gargoyles movie, but with turtles instead of gargoyles. Maybe it's just what it feels like to me. Like it feels very gargoyles.
00:56:32
Speaker
It doesn't really have much of a frame of reference. Unfortunately, Gargoyles was right at the edge of like me being over Saturday morning cartoons. I mean, that's fair. It's all on Disney Plus, though. So you should absolutely go back and rewatch those. So I'm just saying, definitely go back and rewatch those because it's pretty good. So I've heard some good serialized storytelling there for sure. That is what I've heard. I think that
00:57:03
Speaker
They kind of wasted a cameo with Kevin Smith, honestly, agreed, because it's mostly just him grunting and screaming. And I mean, you get killed in this movie, too, by the way, as a voice actor. I mean, you get Kevin Smith, you use Kevin Smith. Mm hmm. It just it just seemed like such a waste. It was cool at the time because he wasn't I remember thinking it was cool at the time because he wasn't really doing
00:57:50
Speaker
his Oscar bid there, and he was really good in that movie. What was that movie called? That movie was called. I think it's funny and release. Yes, yes, I think it's funny, too, that the relationship of his character to Jennifer Garner in that film, because if you know anything about his relationship with Ben Affleck at the time, you know that Jennifer Garner
00:57:51
Speaker
much stuff like
00:58:17
Speaker
fucking hated Kevin Smith. I believe that she's pretty much the reason that they kind of stopped being friends there for a while. OK. She was like, I don't like this fucking dude like now. He's good in that movie, too. They're both good in that movie. That's low key. Like it's a pretty good like Sunday morning movie or Sunday afternoon movie. Yeah, I've never seen it. So as an actor, Kevin Smith starts in the same place he directs. He's basically silent Bob for the first like
00:58:46
Speaker
several years of his career from 94 until. 2000, whenever he's credited on screen, it's as Silent Bob. I think the one exception is a 1999 thing called Big Helium Dog, where he plays a director, a Brian Lynch film. But he's not silly Bob in that one.
00:59:10
Speaker
No, but beyond that, he is Silent Bob and literally everything else. And most of those are either his movies like that he directed or movies that he produced through View Askew, like Drawing Flies, which was I think Jeff Anderson's movie. No, no. You're thinking of Now You Know. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. Matthew Gissing and Malcolm Ingram starring Jason Lee. But that is a View Askew production that he is in as Silent Bob.
00:59:41
Speaker
So and credited as Silent Bob in that movie as well. Silent Bob, a character that also exists in the Degrassi universe. Mm hmm. And in Wes Craven's Scream averse. Right. So one of those one of those one of those credits was Scream 2000, Scream three. And then he is also in the Degrassi show as Silent Bob Jay and Silent Bob do Degrassi, I think.
01:00:10
Speaker
I think he's he is Silent Bob and he's Kevin Smith. OK. In in that show. I guess that's not terribly surprising. Yeah, they both exist, kind of like in Clerks three or no, not Clerks three in Jan's out about reboot. They both exist in the same continuity. Silent Bob and Kevin Smith. I don't think that happens until 2005, but he comes back several times to Degrassi because he is apparently a fan of Degrassi, as mentioned in, I think, Chasing Amy.
01:00:40
Speaker
Um, he mentions his, uh, one, I think Bankey mentions his love of Degrassi and Ben Affleck says, you've got a weird thing for Canadian melodrama. He says, I got a weird thing for chicks that say a boot. Um, which is a line that always kind of sticks with me, but he plays a line sticks with me from that movie. Oh God. What? What's a Nubian? What's that's.
01:01:10
Speaker
Um, yeah, Jason Lee. It's just just a treasure, a treasure of a man. Love that man. He's a scientist, Jason Lee. So Scientologist Jason Lee. But yeah, it goes on to play sound about many more times, but then starts to pop up in. Other movies he's in now, you know, he's in he is in Daredevil as the as Jack Kirby forensic assistant.
01:01:37
Speaker
Um, he has cameos in Doug Dodgers and yes, dear, uh, the show or die hard. We're getting there. We're getting there. Um, Veronica Mars. Um, so he's doing a lot of TV and then he starts showing up another 2006. You've got Dougal and Southland tails as well as clerks to where he comes back as silent Bob. Also in 2006, you've got catch and release.
01:02:04
Speaker
And then which is the movie he does immediately before this one and then later in 2007 he also does He does live for your die-hard where him and Bruce Willis famously got along so well. Mm-hmm
01:02:19
Speaker
that he agreed to be in Kevin Smith's next movie. Cop out. Which did not go how either of them expected it to. No. Well, Bruce Willis is the kind of from what I understand. Bruce Willis is the kind of actor who will show up on set and grill the director or was I guess because he's he's he's got his his condition now, which would pretty much taken him out of being able to perform in any way.
01:02:43
Speaker
Unfortunately, unfortunately. But he's the kind of guy who would show up on set and basically quiz the director about like lenses and different aspects of filmmaking, shot, shot, composition, stuff like that, because Bruce Willis is a professional actor who knows his shit. Kevin Smith, famously a director who does not know much about the actual process of filmmaking because he famously dropped out of film school, which is why his movies are
01:03:12
Speaker
technically not great. The things that made his early films stand out to the extent that they did was the dialogue was the writing was really sharp. And that kind of dull that I think as he got a little older, I think he tended he kind of started to rest on his laurels a little bit as he got as he got along. And so now say something I will say about Kevin Smith, though, is that he's very self aware, and he would probably agree with you. Probably.
01:03:40
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Um, I think, and I don't think the weed helped honestly. Um, but he, but yeah, and I think he, he will be the first one to say, no, I don't know anything about. I mean, he goes, I've made a few movies and stuff, but like, I'm not like a, like a proficient, like great technical filmmaker. Um, cause he's not like, he can't claim that cause his films all, like if he's got a good DP working with him and like helping him, I think they can be better.
01:04:05
Speaker
But like it's. And to be fair, Dave Klein has has improved with each film. Right. From just setting the camera in one spot for 10 minutes and clerks to some of the shit you get in dogma, man. Dogma looks fantastic is like for Kevin Smith movie. Right. It looks fantastic. Is that the same DP? Yeah, Dave Klein has done everything for him up to that point. I think it's set for maybe Jersey girl. How interesting.
01:04:38
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah, I. Yeah, Kevin, Kevin Smith. And again, some of his later films, pretty, pretty good, pretty solid. Red State in particular is the one that I like of his, I think might be his best movie, but also really like Chasing Amy. That was kind of one that a lot of I don't know that Chasing Amy has aged particularly well. As a photographer, cinematographer on dogma was Robert Yeoman.
01:05:08
Speaker
Yeah, I saw that was not Dave Klein. That's the guy who was cinematographer on. He's he's a West Craven cinematographer, West Craven guy. Nice. Did Asteroid City, French Dispatch, Grand Budapest, 2016 Ghostbusters. So, yeah, different, different guy. Well, I think that may be one of the only films for that. Kevin Smith has done that.
01:05:31
Speaker
Dave Klein did not do because he did clerks, mall rats chasing Amy. He did clerks, too. So he took a break for dogma and Jan Silent Bob came back for clerks, too, and then sticks with him, even even when he directed the pilot for Reaper, which is an amazing show that everybody should watch that I mentioned on our Tucker and Dale episode, because Tyler Levine is one of the main characters.
01:05:57
Speaker
Uh, see, he shot Zach and Mary shot cop out shot red state. Uh, and it looks like that was the last thing that he did for, Oh, he shot dead with the movie. He also did some episodes of book of Boba Fett and the Mandalorian as well. You have a deadwood though. I know you like dead. I love dead. I'm just saying.
01:06:18
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He did a couple other shows that maybe some of our listeners have watched and enjoyed. Acknowledged, acknowledged, acknowledged, acknowledged. Why are we going on this big, long thing about Kevin Smith? Because he's in this movie. And he's interested, he's fun to talk about. I mean, there's just endless facts to talk about. But basically, I say all that to say that there's this period of time in the mid to late 2000s where we're like, maybe Kevin Smith is an actor.
01:06:43
Speaker
And it kind of ends this year in 2007. Like he has like I think a few cameos after that. But I think at that point he's kind of like I mean, I'll come maybe come in and do some cameos here and there. But like I think he kind of switches off and he does consistently have cameos and small roles and things. But I think it's too bad because I think especially in catch and release, I mean, he's he's a pretty talented actor. I just think that maybe
01:07:13
Speaker
I don't know, I think he's, he's too, he's too antsy just to act. You know what I mean? Like he has to, he has to do more. He seems like that type of guy where like acting just wouldn't be enough for him. I think that's why Catch and Release is like the only film where he's a main character in the entire movie that he didn't direct. And I think he's a, I think he's a filmmaker first and foremost. And I think part of the reason why
01:07:41
Speaker
I think part of him always kind of wanted to be an actor, which is why he's in Clerks at all. I think he was originally supposed to play Randall in Clerks, as I recall. That's why Randall has all the cool lines. Yeah.
01:07:53
Speaker
Right. So but then he realized I can't do all of this if I'm also going to be directing. And so he cast Jeff Anderson, moves into the Silent Bob role, which was, I think, a lot easier for him. That was a good choice, too. I agree. He kind of embodies that. But then, like, we just as Jay and Silent Bob are his Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, he.
01:08:12
Speaker
comes back and plays that role a lot of times. And he's very expressive in that role. And they give him gradually more and more to do with each subsequent view askew movie. So yeah, you can see and and if it's a Harvey Weinstein vehicle, you can see Harvey being like, Kevin's good, you can put him in shit. And this is a Harvey Weinstein vehicle. So you can you can probably say maybe Harvey had something to do with the fact that Kevin Smith is the diner cook in this movie.
01:08:37
Speaker
Yeah, Kevin, Kevin Smith was one of one of Harvey's golden boys back then him and Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez. Yeah, those were the that's the trifecta right there. There were there were others in that in that group as well. But those were the big three for sure.
01:08:53
Speaker
But yeah, we should mention that the actor cast as Splinter Mako Iwamatsu. Yeah, he was he was announced at Comic Con. First of all, that guy has been acting since like the late 50s. So that's a he's in everything 60 years.
01:09:14
Speaker
Look at a picture of him and you'll be like, oh, yeah, that guy, that guy. He's 100. He is 100 percent of that guy actor. He's announced at Comic Con and then passes away the day after Comic Con. Literally the day after that announcement is made, he dies.
01:09:30
Speaker
He's recorded most of his dialogue, but not all of his dialogue. He is replaced. I think the actor Greg Baldwin is the one that comes in and does a lot of his.
01:09:45
Speaker
clean up work, a lot of the work he wasn't able to do because he had passed away before this movie was finished. So they do get a sound alike there, which the director says, I probably should have just recast the role because no one can sound exactly like Mako. But yeah, again, he's a prolific actor. He's been in everything from Conan the Barbarian to Pearl Harbor.
01:10:11
Speaker
I mean, he did a lot of TV in his early career, too. The guy's been doing stuff since the 50s. But yeah, this is his last theatrically released film. He's in a. He's in another 2007, I think must have been a direct to DVD or maybe movie called Rise Blood Hunter, starring Lucy Liu and Michael Chiklis.
01:10:40
Speaker
Oh, you know, what's that directed to video? I don't know. I've just everything online that I've read says that the. That TMNT is his last theatrically released film, this is his last live action film. But yeah, apparently it's a vampire movie. Is that a movie we could cover on this podcast?
01:11:04
Speaker
I don't know if it's produced by Ghost House Pictures or Sam Rami had something to do with it. There you go. There you go. Lucy Liu, Michael Chiklis, Carla Gugino. I love Carla Gugino. Robert Forster. Looks like a shitty movie though. It really does though. Holt McElhenney is in there. I feel like this was. God, what a weird. What a mid 2000s. What a weird time.
01:11:30
Speaker
yeah yeah yeah that was a point to where like uh people were studios were just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks because there wasn't really like it was a very weird time where there wasn't anything that was
01:11:42
Speaker
like super popular, everything had kind of leveled out. Mm-hmm. And then, of course, you've also got Ziyi Zhang in this movie as well from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Memoirs of Agatia. Oh, yeah, she's the voice of the Foot Clan lady. She's great. She's so good in this movie. And I like her in just about every other thing I've seen her in, even the bad stuff like Cloverfield Paradox. Like.
01:12:09
Speaker
She's just great, and I love it when she shows up in things. I love it when we give Ziyu Zhang work. Please keep giving her work. She's a delight.
01:12:18
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And I honestly, I'm kind of mad that we didn't get a sequel to this just because I wanted I would have wanted her to get more work out of it.
Future of TMNT: Sequel Ideas and Speculations
01:12:28
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I'd love to see what she's what she's playing with the Foot Clan, man like that. Well, that was when I saw that the movie theater, I was like, all right, let's go. Number two, a couple of years. Here it comes. Would you like to know what the Foot Clan was planning, Tucker?
01:12:41
Speaker
Yes, please tell me because we have some notes as to what the director wanted the sequels to be. He had legitimately like full ideas for two sequels off of this. The sequel, he said in 2007, he had the idea in mind for a sequel would have been loosely based on the comic book arc City at War.
01:13:05
Speaker
Oh, and so Michelangelo would have kind of felt rejected, dejected, and would have joined the foot clan, sporting a black bandana. And then the turtles would then have gone to Japan, where they would have crossed paths with Karai, Ziyu Zhang's character, and a resurrected Shredder. Shredder. So Shredder would have come back. And then the third movie would have introduced the Triceratons.
01:13:30
Speaker
Yeah. And wanted Michael Clark Duncan to voice Commander Mozart of the Triceratons. I'm into that. I also am into that. And then that would have also featured the arrival of the techno drone from Dimension X. Dimension X. And eventually, I think those fell off for two reasons. One, the director ended up leaving
01:13:55
Speaker
Imagi, Imagi Studios, the studio that put this on. And then the studio stopped really doing well. Their 2009 feature, a future episode of this podcast, Astro Boy, ended up bombing and the company went bankrupt. The Astro Boy? Yes. How do you bomb with Astro Boy? It's America and Astro Boy has apparently never been as big in America.
01:14:19
Speaker
Well, but everybody in America knows who Astro Boy Astro Boy was like one of the first things that I can remember that was ever localized for the United States. You got black and white Astro Boy localized for the United States. Like I'm just saying, man, it didn't. It didn't do well. It. I remember that coming out, but I just I still can't believe it didn't do any business. I mean, that's just ridiculous. You didn't see it, though. That's the problem. I didn't know that. And no one else did either. So you say.
01:14:48
Speaker
So so basically the studio kind of fell out. Laird said that, you know, maybe we do a live action CGI hybrid. We've got the turtles in CG. We've got Sarah Michelle Geller and Chris Evans come back and play the same roles. And that concept would end up becoming the Michael Bay films from 2016. Which I'm glad they waited because CG was not ready. It would have looked like garbage. Yeah, it would not have been.
01:15:17
Speaker
Would not have been good. Give me Jim Hansen's creature shot back and then we can talk. So I think those ideas for sequels are good. I like those ideas for sequels. I agree. There's a part of me that kind of wants to have seen what those would have been. But I which is again another reason why I would consider this more of a.
01:15:37
Speaker
I guess maybe I'll concede maybe not full spin up, maybe reboot cool, perhaps. Yeah. Like you're you're just kind of rebooting the franchise, but it technically can maybe a sequel kind of a thing. But it I don't know, it feels because they were trying to sequelize it as its own kind of separate offshoot franchise. I think we're good to cover it here. Yeah, no, I mean, I think I think that
01:16:03
Speaker
if anything, to describe it in a pop culture way that people of today's audience will understand, it's like this is just a slight variation in the multiverse of the live action turtles timeline. So not exactly a sequel, just kind of a reimagining of what happened after those three movies in a slightly different parallel universe. That works.
01:16:33
Speaker
I'm kind of waiting for Nickelodeon, who owns the turtles now. I'm kind of waiting for them to do like an into the turtle verse kind of thing. I'm here. I mean, they've done it before, like I said, with the 2003 Turtles that crossed over with the 2000 or the 87 ones and the 2012 ones did the same. Just getting as many of the actors from those different variations and back as you possibly can. I mean, Corey Feldman's not doing anything. You can bring him back to voice a Donatello Chevy Nova.
01:17:02
Speaker
Excellent. Yeah, there you go. He was good. I think he was great as Donatello. I agree. He only did it for the one film, though, which is kind of a bummer. He did it for the third one. He came back for the third one. Oh, did he come back for the third? OK. All right. Unfortunately, I mean, we could have just had him for the second one. That would have been fucking great. Thanks, Corey Feldman. What were you even doing? Yeah, I don't know, man. But yeah, there are, I mean, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That's.
01:17:29
Speaker
We talked about it. Anything else? You are TLE power. You are TLE power. Ninja Turtles. Yeah, dude, I had a soundtrack to I so in the in the in the college days when when music downloading and piracy was totally a thing, there may or may not have been a time when when when someone I know
01:17:52
Speaker
discovered that they could download that song off of the Internet. And someone I know might have had it. So your friend, your friend had it. My friend, I'm doing I'm doing a visual gag by winking at Tucker. But yeah, that's the thing he's doing. You can't see that. So it is why we must describe it to you. Just did it again. But yeah, that is that is our. Anything else you have to say on TMNT? Um.
01:18:21
Speaker
Before I move into the box office, like I say, if we're here, there would be a video game corner, but he's not here. So there's not because there was there were a couple of games based specifically on this film, one of which being a Nintendo Wii game that I remember sucking really hard. Maybe we
The Ultimate TMNT: 2012 Series Appreciation
01:18:40
Speaker
can talk bread into doing an Oops, all video game corner episode on Ninja Turtle games.
01:18:45
Speaker
Um, text, even I will. But Stephen, that's going to be a long episode. I'm going to have visual aids because I am going to have to release the video for that on. I'm sitting here looking at two of the three, two of the four Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle games released on the Nintendo Entertainment System. Just sitting there right on my shelf. There you go.
01:19:11
Speaker
Just hanging out. So maybe that's something we should do for the month of August on the Patreon. I don't care. Let's do TMNC video game corner. I'm way into it. Okay. I know it's Brett's video game corner, but that day it will be our video game corner. I mean, look, I'm sure he's willing to share with you. Oh, yeah.
01:19:33
Speaker
So, yeah, let's we'll we'll text him about that and see if that's something he'd be willing to help spearhead with you. My final thoughts on this film would be that I am I'm a little disappointed that it didn't hold up as well as I remember, because when I saw this at the movie theater, I nearly shit my pants. This movie is so amazing.
01:19:53
Speaker
And I would have been 25 when this came out. Like I said, I've never really stopped liking the turtles, but they've gotten more in the periphery.
01:20:06
Speaker
than out in front. I'm still always down. Culturally as well. Let's be honest, they're still kind of around, but they're not as front and center as they were in the late 80s, early 90s. I've dipped into every series and every film that's been made. Since 1987, I have dipped into it, and really the only thing I haven't liked
01:20:26
Speaker
was The Rise. I thought in 2012, Turtles, that show is perfect. OK, like once you the character designs are a little off putting at first, but once you get into it and you get used to it, it's I think. 2012 Nickelodeon Turtles series is probably the ultimate like the peak version of the Turtles, because it's everything that's great about every other version. Put into something that's also still like completely original.
01:20:57
Speaker
and I recommend it to anybody that's even the slightest fan of the Ninja Turtles give it three episodes and see if you don't like it because it's it's really really good it's really well written the voice cast is amazing even though they change Leo's like every season
01:21:13
Speaker
as you do like you do as is tradition with these sorts of things in accordance with scripture yes in accordance with ninja turtle law right um yeah i i don't know like i this one i wasn't as invested in maybe it was the fact that i was watching it you know like late at night maybe it was the fact that i
01:21:35
Speaker
haven't really engaged with anything turtle related since maybe the mid 90s, really. But yeah, I was kind of like, it's it wasn't it wasn't great for me. I didn't I wasn't, it didn't grab me. So but you know, Ninja Turtles are great. Maybe I should watch those Michael Bay movies. And I don't know, maybe we'll see.
01:21:57
Speaker
Check out that 2012 series, man. I'm telling you, dude. Look at the voice cast on that one. Can we just sidebar and look at the voice cast on the 2012 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Let me. Hang on. Let me. I think once you see this voice cast, you will be like, oh, yes, I probably should. Let me see. Jason Biggs, Rob Paulson, Sean Astin and Greg Sipes.
01:22:25
Speaker
Seth Green, Nolan North, Kelly Hugh, Clancy, motherfucking Brown. I do love the Mars Baxter Stockman. May Whitman as April O'Neill. Josh Peck is Casey Jones. Hmm. Hmm. I think they get the voices of the original like Corey Feldman plays slash. Yeah, they get they get everybody in there at some point.
01:22:50
Speaker
Frank Welker, of course, the ubiquitous move is bebop. My boy, JB Smoove, D Bradley Baker is in there. Dietrich Bader is Bigfoot. Michael Dorn straight up war is up in this motherfucker. Tom Kenny's up in this motherfucker. John Heater, Marisa Marsh, Kevin Michael Richardson playing the paint frogs.
01:23:12
Speaker
Did you already mention Keith David? I has not. Gilbert Godfried, Roseanne Barr. Bill mostly. Jeffrey Combs, my boy Jeffrey Combs. I forgot he was the rat king. Jim Piddock, like David Tennant, plays the future toy. Ron Perlman, Danny Trejo, Lewis Black, John DiMaggio himself. The great John DiMaggio. You already said John Heater, Robert England, Paul Rubens, Pee Wee Urban himself.
01:23:42
Speaker
Tellin' you, man, Lance Henriksen, everybody's in this, too. Phil Mosley, Frank Welker, your boy, Frank Welker, Lucy Lawless, Michael Ironside, Charlie Murphy. We could go on all day. This list goes on forever. Roseanne Rarr is the voice of Krang. That's amazing. Yeah, she's really great, actually. That's insane to me.
01:24:06
Speaker
Yes, yes, yes. It's it's just really good. I recommend it to anyone who
TMNT 2007: Box Office and Critical Reception
01:24:10
Speaker
has even the slightest interest in the Ninja Turtles, because it is for me, it is the definitive version, the culmination of all the good parts of every version we had seen up to that point into just one perfect show. OK. We're right on that. What a what a what a cast.
01:24:30
Speaker
Uh, TMNT comes out on March 23rd, 2007, opens at number one at the box office to $24.3 million on its way to 54.1 million domestic, another 42 million international for a grand total of 96 million worldwide. Not.
01:24:54
Speaker
Not a great multiplier. Um, so again, probably also if it had done better, we might've seen some of those cycles, but it did not. Um, in second place and it's third weekend down from number two, the week before is Zach Snyder's 300.
01:25:12
Speaker
In third place, the Mark Wahlberg war movie, the first of many, a little movie called Shooter. What if there was a shooter? Hey, shooter. Hey, hey, shooter. How's you? How's your mother? Say hi to your mother for me. Is that is that a Peter Berg film? I'm going to now I'm going to look and see if that's a Peter because he does a lot of movies with Peter Berg. No, that is Anton Fuqua. Shoot me. How's it going? Don't shoot me. I'm going to shoot you instead.
01:25:41
Speaker
So how do you mother for me? And how do you mother for me? In fourth place, the Walt Becker film Wild Hogs. OK. Tim Allen, Martin Lawrence, William H. Macy. What if they all rode motorcycles? John Savolta is is he in that one, too? What a cast. What a God. What a that's a thing that happened. And we all and they made a sequel to it, I'm pretty sure.
01:26:10
Speaker
Did they really? I think so. Oh, my God. Yeah, John Travolta is in that one as well. Ray Liotta, Marissa Tomei, MC Ganey. Stephen Tobolowski ceremonies. God, no, they did not make a sequel. Why did I think there was a wild hogs, too? I'm thinking of what's the one with all the Adam Sandler people accept Adam Sandler is not in it where they're all old.
01:26:39
Speaker
old guys or something. What's it called? Chris Rock and grown up spade. Yeah, there you go. Except Sam, there's absolutely in that. He is in that. Yeah, you're right. And in fifth place, the last Mimsie didn't see the first Mimsie. So, yeah, yeah, I have no context for the Mimsie. So this being the last has no effect on me whatsoever.
01:27:02
Speaker
Rounding out the top 10, we have the opening weekend of the sequel to the remake of The Hills Have Eyes, The Hills Have Eyes 2. Ooh, surprisingly a really good remake sequel. That is what I have heard. Just a fun little slasher. I've heard both of those are really, really solid. I don't want to see them because I don't like the gore shit, but I've heard they're both very good.
01:27:22
Speaker
In seventh place, Premonition, Reign Over Me in eighth place. Speaking of Adam Sandler. Was that the one where he's like the street musician or whatever? I think it's the 9-11 one. Oh, yeah. With him and Don Cheadle maybe. Yeah. Is that what that one is? Yeah, him and Don Cheadle. Yeah. Jada Pinkett Smith, Liv Tyler, Safran Burroughs, Donald Sutherland, Robert Klein. What a cast.
01:27:52
Speaker
Ted Ted, motherfucking Ramey, John Delance Q himself and then in ninth place, a little movie called Pride. What if what if there was a pride? Terrence Howard animated lion movie or something. I don't know. It's got Terrence Howard in it. I know nothing about this movie.
01:28:15
Speaker
Um, and then in a 10th place, uh, previous episode of this podcast dead silence down from number four, the previous week, go, go listen to our previous episode on dead silence. Yes, please do.
01:28:27
Speaker
The Tomatometer score, I'm going to have to look up here real quick because I forgot to do it before. It's the one thing I didn't have open. Oops, I can't believe you've done this. I know I'm the worst. I don't know why. Tomatometer score on this one is a 35 percent. The critics consensus TMNT's art direction is splendid, but the plot is non-existent and the dialogue lacks the irony and goofy wit of the earlier Ninja Turtles movies.
01:28:55
Speaker
I'm inclined to agree. The meta score is a 41 with mixed or average reviews from 21 critics. And the letterbox score is a 2.8 Tucker out of five stars. How are you rating 2007 TMNT? Strangely enough, this week, I pretty much agree with letterbox. I give it a two and a half. Give it a two and a half. I give it a two.
01:29:17
Speaker
So that's kind of where we're going. Yeah, not not great. I think I liked it a little less than you obviously liked it a little less than you did. But, you know, it's it's it's a fine thing. It's something that it's not something that I have aged out of. I don't think this film is, but I think that this film has not aged as well as I would have liked for it to. And I think that's just because of it was kind of a weird time.
01:29:43
Speaker
for CG animation kind of a transition period. Definitely. So nothing from that era looks good because we were kind of trying to figure some shit out like on the edge of certain things, you know. Mm hmm. I think there's a lot of positive things about this movie that still hold up, but there's a lot that doesn't, unfortunately. Agreed. I and I think I guess I think less works than than than does.
01:30:08
Speaker
But visually, it looks as good as something from this era can. So yeah, do with that what you will. But yeah, it could be worse. I think the editing is really inspired in some places. Some of the transitions are really creative if you're paying attention. We should mention heavily inspired by Hong Kong action films. Absolutely.
01:30:33
Speaker
I remember the first trailer to this was just the part at the end where they're just running across the rooftops, the buildings and everybody's minds just exploded. When we saw that, which is kind of exactly what minds are doing now with the new trailer, like the people are looking at that animation style and going, wow, that looks that looks really fucking incredible, because you know what? It kind
Conclusion and Call to Action
01:31:00
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of does look really fucking incredible.
01:31:03
Speaker
It literally looks like someone is drawing it as you're seeing it. Yeah. Which almost like almost like Dr. Cat's squiggle vision, but like evolved to the point of perfection. Like like an entire movie of spider punks, kind of, honestly. Yeah, sort of. Yeah. Which is kind of cool. So I don't know. There you go. I don't know. There it is. We did 90 minutes on TMNT. That's great. That's good. I like that. So good job.
01:31:30
Speaker
Cut, print, send it to the printer. I know you've got to head out here in a second. So we'll go ahead and land this plane. Hey, guys, this has been the disenfranchised podcast. And you should check us out wherever you get your podcasts. Leave us a nice five-star juicy rating and review, particularly if you're on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you like us and you're not subscribed, go ahead and subscribe. So we drop in your pod catcher every day.
01:31:51
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01:32:10
Speaker
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01:32:25
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01:32:51
Speaker
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01:33:19
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01:33:30
Speaker
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01:33:51
Speaker
Yeah. Otherwise we're just going to screenshot your, your email and put it. Well, we will draw a mug based on how you've described it. Right. Absolutely. That is what we'll do. But yeah, go ahead and send that to a disenfranch pot at gmail.
01:34:09
Speaker
And our absent co-host Brett Wright, you can find him on Instagram and Letterboxd at sus underscore warlock if you want to see what he's up to because he's not been around as much lately. But hey, we're really hoping to get him back for a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Oops, all video game corner episode. In the meantime, make sure you check us out on all those social media platforms. We're on Facebook as well. I don't know if I mentioned that we're on the disenfranch pod is on Facebook as well.
01:34:35
Speaker
Um, but yeah, that is all she wrote for TMNT. Uh, I'm your host, Steven Foxworthy, uh, for my co-host Tucker and the absent Brett Wright. Until next time, God, I love being a turtle.