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Podcast Introduction and Team Performance
00:00:18
Holmesy
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's Holmesy here talking all things AFL Fantasy Classic for you on Monday, the 28th of July. Round 20 has been and gone. There were some terrible games of football on the weekend.
00:00:33
Holmesy
None more than Louie's Port Boys. Yes, he is here, the perennial top 1K finisher. Just before we start into the show, Lou, I just want to get your thoughts on... ah Your boys in the showdown, Ken's last showdown, they definitely they definitely turned up for him and i'm I'm sure you were a happy supporter on Saturday night.
Louie’s Team Reflections and Legacy
00:00:53
Lew
Oh, mate, honestly, yeah, I wasn't as upset as what some people might have thought. In fact, ah the feet were up and I was kicking back and enjoying it. um Watching the legacy just totally disappear, it was bittersweet.
00:01:08
Lew
um I think we've got a month to go until I finally get my way. So, um yeah, not playing for anything now.
00:01:13
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:01:16
Lew
ah so i'm not I'm not too fussed about the results.
00:01:21
Holmesy
Yep, fair enough, mate. ah To be honest, I didn't expect expect that, but yeah, I'm sure you'll be a happy man come season's end.
Introducing John Harmy and Fantasy Success
00:01:29
Holmesy
And as always, we have two-time top 10 finisher and runner-up in 2019 and the proud owner of Jeremy Cameron, if you don't mind, John Harmy. How are we?
00:01:41
Jon Harmey
Yes, I'm not going to. Bad thanks. Host Holmesy, top 15 coach in the world, Holmesy. um And yeah, no, look, obviously I've had some success in the past, but soon to be um superseded by yourself going a three-time top 10 hat. That'd be pretty decent, wouldn't Holmesy?
00:02:04
Holmesy
it It would harm you, but let's not let's not get too far ahead of ourselves just yet. Still a lot of water.
00:02:10
Jon Harmey
I am. I'm there.
00:02:12
Holmesy
You there? Stop the comp?
00:02:12
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:02:15
Holmesy
Nah,
Sam's Absence and Player Performance Issues
00:02:16
Holmesy
let's get into it. um Unfortunately, there's no Sam. He's been managed from the pod for personal reasons this week, ah which we will divulge at some stage. ah But word on the street is he can't face the boys after Lockie Ash had his first sub-ton in about 10 weeks and his team went to went to Rabbles, but he'll be back soon, we hope.
00:02:36
Holmesy
ah Louis, why don't you kick us off with how your
AFL Fantasy Scores and Player Picks
00:02:40
Holmesy
round went? Give us your score, your rank and your state on dossie picks.
00:02:44
Lew
Yes, so scored the twenty four thirty two which I haven't dug around too much. I was thinking I was on for a pretty good week, but it was clearly a very high-scoring week amongst the coaches. So that sort of put me about par, I think, in the end. But still happy with that. Avoided some of the bullets, which ah sometimes fantasy is about avoiding as many landmines as what you can rather than you know picking the good ones. but My Stato pick of the week, I'm going to give it to Colby McEacher with the 104. He is one that I picked about two months ago now, maybe just shy of as one to get me up to something greater, but he has fulfilled his role and more. And, uh,
00:03:31
Lew
Just got a sneaky feeling. He may even be one that finishes up in the team. There was a little bit of, I guess, um you know, talk about Caleb Daniels' role in that side, and he's copped it today a little bit.
00:03:44
Lew
And if McKercha can pick up a few extra points there as well, on top of the 98 last five average, he could be one that I take all the way home. So,
00:03:56
Lew
Fingers crossed on that one. The Dossie pick of the week though, I'm going to give to his defender counterpart, Myles Bergman with the 39. The writing was on the wall probably two weeks ago that this guy had to go, but 39 is pretty unacceptable. I know he's carrying an injury too with that shoulder. So there's every world where he doesn't improve too much from that and Sort of reverts back to being a 70s guy at best. So I'll give him the dossie pick of the week, but has been a pretty decent pick throughout that buy period.
Midfielder Roles and Performance
00:04:34
Holmesy
Yeah, look, he's someone i've I've almost been a little bit nervous at times not to own. When he's when he's a midfielder, um he scores very, very well. And if it comes out next year that he's going to be a full-time midfielder alongside Butters and and Horn Francis, then he's absolutely someone we should look at in our starting squads. but But yeah, the the writing's on the wall. He gets thrown around when there's injuries. And unfortunately, at Port, there's injuries almost every week. So yeah, agree with that, Lou.
00:04:59
Holmesy
Unfortunately, he has to go. Harmi, how did you go next?
00:05:03
Jon Harmey
Not too bad, Holmesy. I actually thought I was going pretty well and then ah my ranking didn't increase by much. So yeah i had the 2, 4, 6, 6 for
Fantasy League Strategies and Stato Picks
00:05:16
Jon Harmey
the round and that brings my rank to 2,999. So just snuck into the top 3,000, which I don't really think that's something I can beat my chest too much about. But anyway...
00:05:29
Jon Harmey
um My Stato pick of the week, I think I'll go Bond. I mean, I had him as but and didn' was my VC, so 146. I was pretty happy with that, even though was against the Bombers. But, yeah, as you said, I did have Cameron as well, so he had a really good round and hopefully it continues that form.
00:05:49
Jon Harmey
Yeah. Yeah, lo Lou, um'm I'm right there with Louie on Bergman, far out. That was 39. So im many um different ways that it could have gone better score than that. But anyway, I'll throw it to to the players against West Coast. I mean, Brayshaw and Sorong got them both. Sorong 71 against the rabble of the West Coast midfielder.
00:06:13
Jon Harmey
Oh, he was probably expecting a bit more than that.
00:06:17
Holmesy
Yeah, that that West Coast matchup is actually ah it's ah it's a tricky one. they There's games where they have players go absolutely stupid against them. Think of Baz Smith. um I think Dacos might have torn them up. I'm not 100% sure. But some midfielders absolutely get off the chain. And then they have these really random games where ah the midfielders don't score. So maybe it's a ah mentality thing where they get up for some games and not others. But...
00:06:41
Holmesy
But yeah, you would have expected more from the Dockers boys there, Harmi. But before I get into my round, do you think the emergence of Hayden Young coming back into that midfield could potentially, you know, maybe put a bit of a cap on Brayshaw and Sarong's ceiling, knowing that they're playing more team-orientated brand of football?
00:06:57
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:06:58
Jon Harmey
He was awesome, Young. like he was you'd be such a You'd be so happy as a supporter to have him come back into your side. But um he wasn't i mean he wasn't bulk um CBAs and they were a bit concerned about his fitness and subbed him out. So that shouldn't have really affected those two guys to that extent.
00:07:19
Jon Harmey
and They still should have scored well. But yeah, Young was awesome. Those goals, man.
00:07:24
Lew
We might really um see the benefit there if hunt if Young, or other, actually attracts the tag over Sarong or Brayshaw. It was unbelievable on the weekend, obviously. and um If he gets that tag, then maybe we actually see an improvement from Sarong and Brayshaw, even.
00:07:43
Holmesy
Yeah, I suppose the other thing to kind of monitor as well, clearly they're going to keep managing um Young through until he's good to go for a full-time
Round Reflections and Player Highlights
00:07:52
Holmesy
midfield role, even though they will sort of swing them forward, ah is what happens to Luke Jackson as he's been that bigger-bodied midfielder that's been playing in there while Young's been out.
00:08:02
Holmesy
um He's been part-time ruck, part-time mid, part-time forward. And as ah Darcy gets fitter, the ruck time's diminishing. And now as Young gets fitter, maybe the mid midfield time starts to diminish as well. Now, you're not trading ah Jackson out with with the forward line as it is, but it's just something to flag if you don't have him or or potentially towards the end of the season if it looks like you might get a floor game out of him. But art yeah, just one to monitor.
00:08:28
Holmesy
I had the 25-49 this week, um which was a yeah a pretty pretty good score. I think it was a round rank of about 260, but there were some absolute monsters up the top. So um really, really happy with that, but it is tightening at the top. I think I still lost ground on on first place, which is is not ideal, but is what it is at this time of the year.
00:08:52
Holmesy
My Stato Pick of the Week, I'm going to give mine to Zach Butters, 115. Now, he wasn't he wasn't the highest scorer in my side by any means, um but the fact that he was getting attention from Peatling, he was getting attention from Jones when he came on as sub,
00:09:10
Holmesy
ah Port Adelaide were getting absolutely belted and I think he went off at one stage for a bit of an injury concern only to come back on. I think he played high 90s or mid 90s time on ground um to still get to 115 in those conditions against Adelaide.
00:09:25
Holmesy
Lou, I think he was unreal and I suppose I just want to throw to you because... I'm a bit nervous about the upcoming Geelong fixture. He had a 50 on him earlier on in the year with the Mullen tag and then going into Frio, which was also a tag.
00:09:40
Holmesy
is it Am I right to be worried about a Zach Butters or do you think ah he'll be okay?
00:09:46
Lew
Oh, look, potentially. i also think that maybe Port might be a little bit more of a walkover than what they were when those two teams played them earlier on in the year. So um I'd probably back in the good player, as we saw on the weekend. Butters doesn't stop trying. He's is out there giving it his all at all times. So i think that's probably a bit of a ah false flag, but definitely something to keep in the back of your mind.
00:10:14
Holmesy
Yep, fair enough there. And and my Dossie pick of the week.
00:10:16
Jon Harmey
Thank you.
00:10:17
Holmesy
Now, ah I had a Chad Warner 70, but I've got ah i got a bit of a story to tell. ah This was not my finest hour. I did go full fantasy nuffy on the weekend, but all in my own head. I didn't ah worry others with it too much, except poor Vams who copped it a bit. But Chris Fagan.
00:10:35
Holmesy
The tag. So, Noah Anderson comes out, has an okay first quarter, and then goes absolutely ballistic in that second quarter. I think he had a 60-odd point second quarter, kicked two goals, and was absolutely everywhere.
00:10:47
Jon Harmey
Yeah. yeah
00:10:51
Holmesy
And I just knew at that moment he was going to be getting a tag. But I still thought, hey, he's going to get tagged, and he'll still get to a 115, 120, 125, and that'll be a good differentiator up the top, as no one really has Noah Anderson.
00:11:04
Holmesy
the other The other part to that story was that his goal that he kicked, Jai Farrar, actually, he got a he got a boot to it right on the line, but they gave it to Noah Anderson at the time.
00:11:15
Holmesy
Now, Noel was on 88 at halftime and being the full nuffy that I am, I know that champion data but basically sit about 15 minutes behind where they actually, they put the initial scores in and then there's someone about 15 minutes prior that is going through and checking everything as they go along. So halftime happens.
00:11:36
Holmesy
Third quarter starts, Noel Anderson still has his second goal. Halfway through the third quarter, he's still got it. And I'm thinking, beautiful. they've They've given it to Anderson. He's all good. I check back in at three-quarter time and they've taken the goal off him and he's basically where he was at three-quarter time. So i start I start losing and I'm like, this this is bullshit, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah He ends up being tagged into oblivion and and scraping to a 107, which once again is unbelievable because Matt Rowe goes out and has a 100-point second half and and Gold Coast torched the Brisbane Lions and they didn't release the tag. But
00:12:11
Holmesy
Yeah, that's that's my that's my Nuffy story. That that' stressed me out, which Vams is trying to teach me a lesson that I shouldn't track scores because if I had have just looked at the end and saw a 107 against Brisbane, I'd be very, very happy. But yeah, I can't exactly do that at the moment. So there's there's my little whinge for the week. Noel Anderson, I love you, but you've got to learn to break those tags as they are going to be coming for you in the future.
Player Injuries and Updates
00:12:36
Holmesy
All right, boys.
00:12:36
Lew
Yeah, the problem was you kept it in your head, Holmesy.
00:12:39
Lew
I would have shot off a couple of tweets out to Champion Data and and see if they could look after you.
00:12:45
Holmesy
Yeah, I couldn't. It was, it was, it probably was Farrar's goal. Like he got there right on the edge, but the fact they waited so long to overturn it, it just, yeah, it annoyed Yeah.
00:12:56
Lew
score review, mate. They take their time.
00:12:57
Holmesy
yeah yeah but Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. It is what it is. All right, some hot topics to begin with. Just some injury stuff to start off the top. So first one, not as fantasy relevant, although I know some coaches were looking to go there if they were strapped for cash. But Harley Reid, um Ryan Daniels has just reported season over for him with that ankle injury. So um if you've got him, unfortunately, that is going to be a trade.
00:13:24
Holmesy
ah Hot off the press from Goat Fantasy just then is that Rosie has pulled up pretty well and expects to play. Now, clearly, that's a Sunday game, so we need to be keeping our ears to the ground in terms of the news. But you would assume that if he flies to Geelong, he plays. But that's just one to monitor um that he has pulled up pretty well.
00:13:47
Holmesy
And then Dane Zorko. So this one's an interesting one. So they reported in the commentary during the game that ah he's actually dealing with a Liz Frank injury, a bit of a sprain, and that there's actually not much he can do at the moment with it except just manage it to get through the rest of the season. Now, the Liz Frank injury,
00:14:06
Holmesy
is ah quite a serious foot injury. it was the I'm pretty sure it's the one that ended Dane Swan's career. It was um part of the reason, I believe, that Will Day was out for a period of time. So it's a very serious injury. And we could see straight away on the weekend that Zorko wasn't Zorko.
00:14:24
Holmesy
um He wasn't getting those marks. He wasn't running over the ground like he usually is. And and his kick out dropped off. Louis, is is Dane Zorko, is he an urgent trade out?
00:14:37
Lew
Yeah, you'd'd you'd have to say he is. i mean, he's approaching what he probably is 36 years old. He's in a team that are definitely going to play finals. He's an important cog for them as well.
00:14:49
Lew
ah So I know you said that, you know, it's sort of one of those things that they can manage in game, but I don't think giving him a week off will do him any harm either.
00:14:51
Holmesy
All right.
00:14:57
Lew
He can still keep his loads up and... That might be something just because he is such a um cog in their system that we don't find out until just prior to the game as well. So that combined with the fact that his scoring over the last couple of weeks hasn't been what we have come to expect from Dane Zorko of the past. I think that's one that you jump off pretty swiftly and at his price, he hasn't hurt you too badly. You can get onto one of the big dogs back there who's putting up some more consistent numbers.
00:15:29
Holmesy
Yeah, and then you combine that with the fact that Brisbane actually have a pretty tough run coming up. So Collingwood this week into Sydney, into Fremantle, into Hawthorne. Not an easy run to begin with.
00:15:40
Holmesy
He's a top six defender by name and and what he's done for the year. But yeah, this one's a tricky one. ah I think this is the one you can kind of punt and trade out knowing that with the injury, he might probably not burn you on the way out.
00:15:53
Holmesy
But we do know it's Dane Zorko. So yeah, just keep your eyes posted on that one.
00:15:58
Lew
Thank
00:15:59
Holmesy
Boys, what I want to do ah for our strategy chat is just to have a little bit of a talk about what you guys are planning to do sort of this week and the strategies that you're looking to to make sure you finish off the year as strong as
End of Season Strategies and Trades
00:16:12
Holmesy
you can. Louis being ranked around 800 and trying to push up as high as you can and Harmi continuing the good run that you've had. So Harmi, why don't we start with you? What are you looking to sort of get out of the rest of the year and and how are you sort of going about strategizing this?
00:16:27
Jon Harmey
Oh, look, for me, Holmesy, I've actually just been looking at incrementally improving my side. I mean, I... We've already talked about Bergman and we have talked about Rosie and we've talked about Zorko. So I'm actually just managing those injuries this week. Although, you know, I guess I would love to cash out a rookie that I've got plenty on the bench that I could do and then put that on top of Bergman and get a top liner. It may be that I'm looking at it a bit sideways again based on the fitness of some of those guys.
00:17:00
Jon Harmey
So I'll throw some names.
00:17:00
Holmesy
that's that's a good, yeah.
00:17:02
Jon Harmey
Let's have a look. I don't mind the idea of Sicily as a sideways one because he got his 110 on the weekend. I still really like Matt Kennedy in the forward line if you can get there.
00:17:14
Jon Harmey
I traded out Sinclair a few weeks ago and I'm keen to get him back in. um I think he's got a good run and with Messiah carving it up in the midfield that um he should have a key role in the back line. So there's a few names.
00:17:28
Holmesy
So I suppose that was that was my question because it is, ah I've been guilty of it in the past as well, being in this position late in the year and thinking, all right, so I need to kind of, you know, take on a ah bit of risk here to try and fly up the ranks. And that does often lead you to kind of two sideways moves that, you know, might improve your side but might not. So,
00:17:50
Holmesy
But you are in the camp of trying to fix up multiple of these guys if you can, rather than just going your one down and and getting your Bergman type up to a a genuine gun.
00:18:01
Jon Harmey
ah Yeah, and lets let's just have a quick look at the draw because i think that the i've got um like I've got bench players so depends on whether you get McCarthy or I think West Coast or later. on Saturday first game.
00:18:16
Jon Harmey
It's possible that I could have a look at what McCarthy does first and then pull my trades.
00:18:23
Holmesy
Beautiful. Louis, why don't you talk us through what you're sort of thinking for this last month of the season?
00:18:28
Lew
Yeah, pretty similar to Harmy. um I mean, first of all, I think I'm beginning to now neglect my bench. So if I can find a 230K guy who has a green dot or potentially will play over the next couple of weeks, that's where I'm headed. But in terms of where I'm going to, it's 230K basement. I'm trying to have as much cash in hand as possible so that I can make these corrective trades work And, you know, that might be a Myles Bergman, a Caleb Daniel, um even a Tom Green, who I've got floating around, who are just underperforming and just trying to lift sort of the the bottom half of my 22 to find the improvement there. um And, you know, that's pretty much the way I'm going to go about it here.
00:19:16
Lew
um Obviously, we speak about ah identifying who has the best fixtures and um who's got the good role. It's a lot of that. It's about yeah um process of elimination, I suppose, at the at the top end here. And that's where I want to throw to you, Holmesy, because you are someone who's probably not...
00:19:37
Lew
um focusing as much on just going as low as possible and up as high as possible you've actually got a good team and you're looking to go sideways on some of these players and obviously you're looking to bring in some of the best ones so if throw to you mate which players are ah currently on your radar as as players that maybe we should look to target over the next coming weeks
00:19:45
Jon Harmey
Hmm.
00:20:01
Holmesy
Yeah, well, we are we are looking at the runs, um which we have identified. So um some of the runs that we've got coming up here. So I've highlighted four teams, Sydney, St Kilda, Geelong and Gold Coast. All four of these sides all play some combination of Richmond, Essendon, North and West Coast in their last four.
00:20:21
Holmesy
So you're hoping to get um a sit like a couple of ceiling scores there from those um lower matchups. I think even a... A St Kilda has been highlighted as has having three. So they've got, I think it's North, Richmond and Essendon in their next three. So trying to identify those those matchups.
00:20:40
Holmesy
um I'm with you, Lou. I actually... I traded into a red dot last week. So that was the first um deliberate 230K red dot um that I've brought in for the whole season so far. I know a lot of coaches um did that earlier in the buy rounds and things like that to free up cash, but aren Yeah, I'm on the fence this week because luxury trade season is hard. So for for context, I traded out Zach Merritt last week and I brought in Josh Dunkley for his run and his matchup against Gold Coast. And that actually lost me three points. Now, I'm not upset with that because I believe Zach Merritt has a tough run coming. And with some potential tags this week, I wanted to try and get ahead of it. But...
00:21:24
Holmesy
I suppose that the the thing I want to talk to you, Lou, about my team specifically is that i I carried cash deliberately this week. So I had the option of either going double sideways on a, let's call it a Colby McEacher, Zach Butters. You could throw some other names in the mix.
00:21:43
Holmesy
Or you go up from a McCarthy, you get a a gun premium, which then allows a Colby McEacher type who I don't, necessarily want on my field like he he might end up being a keeper but he might put up some 70s and 80s but do I then take him to the bench as the 23rd premium have the safety knowing that there might potentially be carnage over the last four weeks and I've got a looped option that's a genuine premium to try and then ah get up and get a leg up that way so what do you think there Lou
00:22:16
Lew
Well, initial thoughts, are I mean, Colby McKerchie, he's got a couple of good matchups
Flexibility in Fantasy Strategies
00:22:22
Lew
here. and know he's got the Giants and Adelaide, but he's also got the Saints and Richmond. So expecting a couple of decent scores there for you, mate.
00:22:31
Lew
Personally, I think that if you're going to be playing around with a 23rd premium, I think the forward line might be the place to have it. I'm just saying... a wide range of scores here um you know the top guys aren't necessarily getting it done um there's a couple of almost draft streamer options and jeremy cameron um harmy's man will probably be one we mention later where you can find this massive amount of points that the rest of the comp isn't accessing or hasn't been able to access because they're you know
00:23:04
Lew
confined to their 22 elsewhere or they're looking at a 23rd premium in the midfield or in defense so that's kind of where I'd be looking at it and I think ah there's a couple of really really nice matchups for key forwards and and sort of streaming options that we can look at over the next couple of weeks where we can really access some of that ceiling which might be enough to to differentiate from the rest of of the comp. Whereas I feel like in the midfield and defense, it's sort of sorting itself out. And I'm not sure if necessarily a Colby McEacher is really burning us at all.
00:23:40
Lew
um When you consider some of the back end of these top defenders are probably going at a ninety ninety five clip anyway.
00:23:47
Holmesy
Yeah, and that's that's the thing though, Lou, is that once you've got that 23rd premium, Colby doesn't have to stay the 23rd premium, but he's there with a lot of cash on his head, which means that because North play so many late games, I think they've got Sunday this week, I think it's Sunday next, the week after, I think they have it maybe an earlier one, but then they're more than likely going to get the 24th round Sunday game as well.
00:24:12
Holmesy
You could throw a forward onto the bench early, the one you want to loop, if he scores well, that you want to take it, you take it. If not, you've got the ability to then trade Colby into a forward to then have a punt that way. So it's yeah it's it's something I'm toying with because you know this time of year, you know there's nothing worse than trading out a Zach Merritt who puts a 115 on your head or you jump at a shadow, you trade out Zach Butters ah this week against Geelong and then he doesn't get tagged and and puts up a score that we know he can. Whereas at least if you're playing the looping game, they're in you they're in your team.
00:24:44
Holmesy
You loop them, they put up the score. Fantastic. They come on field. If not, you've got another crack there. Harmi, what do you think?
00:24:52
Jon Harmey
yeah Yeah, no, look, at I agree, mate. I do, look, I actually really rate Coppin McKercha, so I think that I wouldn't be looking to trade him out, but if you're using him, who means your safety, I guess, that'd be really good idea.
00:25:05
Lew
You started my co-chart, didn't you, homie?
00:25:08
Jon Harmey
I didn't start him, I brought it in really, once he hit rock bottom, I think, even then he punched a couple of 40s for me, but he's come good.
00:25:18
Holmesy
Yeah, I don't know.
00:25:18
Jon Harmey
I think I'll let you
00:25:19
Holmesy
so Something in the back of my mind scares me about North. Like, that club is an absolute rabble. yeah You hope, Lou, you hope Caleb Daniels, the one that goes out and then they just let McKercher, they let Dersma, all these guys just run off the half-back line because it's it's not working for them. But, you know, what if they decide to throw Colby on a wing or forward at some stage? Then his scoring's gone.
00:25:42
Holmesy
If he goes into the midfield, even then he wasn't scoring well. So that's what scares me a little bit. But you'd think Harmi, he stays in defence for the rest of the year.
00:25:50
Lew
um It's ice.
00:25:50
Jon Harmey
he's got a, yeah, he's, he's ripping it up back there.
00:25:51
Lew
It's,
00:25:53
Jon Harmey
I mean, he looks great. Um, and he's a top pick from a couple of years ago. Like you'd be stupid not to have him there. The other thing I was going to say, I was going to agree with the point that Louie made earlier around your loop being in the forward line. I actually really prefer that because, um, some of the, I mean, you Chad Warner, I know you brought him in last week, maybe Holmesy over the week before. Sorry. Um,
00:26:17
Jon Harmey
It's just there are just players putting up middling scores in that forward line regularly. So, yeah, I would actually like the idea of being able to loop in the forward line if you had it.
00:26:28
Lew
It feels like the lows are low in the forward line and the highs are really high. And it essentially just boils down to whether or not you want two bites at the cherry or you want a genuine upgrade um from a Colby McHurcher. But I'm just not seeing, you know, outside of the really obvious defensive options, someone who, you know, necessarily I can point to who' is going to outscore him every single week from here.
00:26:54
Jon Harmey
And I just think that, Holmesy, for you personally, if somebody that is still trying to make up ground on the people above you, I think that that loop in the forward line would be a really good tactic. i mean, there's a chance you make bloody 80 points on just one player in a week.
00:27:09
Lew
I'd be looping Jeremy Cameron every single week as he as he strives towards that 100 goal mark.
00:27:13
Holmesy
Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong.
00:27:18
Holmesy
Harmy, can I have him?
00:27:20
Jon Harmey
Yeah, yeah, I'd give him to you if I could, buddy.
00:27:25
Holmesy
Thanks. Thanks, Harmi. All right, let's go through some of these teams now. We'll we'll discuss some of the players. Some some will give little airtime too as their obvious picks, but others will have a bit of discussion. So um let's start with Sydney. So they've got Essendon this week and they do finish with ah West Coast in the last round of the year. So two really good matchups. Lou, Heaney and Goulden, I'll throw them both to Do you think either of them are ah options for us?
Player Matchups and Value
00:27:53
Lew
Um, gee, it's a good question. I'm a little bit unsure on Goulden. I'm not sure if the lack of a preseason is starting to catch up with him a little bit, but he is an absolute star.
00:28:07
Lew
Um, but you're paying, you're paying a massive premium, aren't you? Do you know what he's priced at?
00:28:13
Holmesy
ah Heaney, I think, is about 1.04. So, yeah, he's he's up there.
00:28:16
Lew
No, no, Goulden.
00:28:17
Holmesy
Oh, Goulden's about 1.02, just under.
00:28:17
Jon Harmey
They similar.
00:28:19
Jon Harmey
Yep.
00:28:21
Lew
Oh, he's come down a little bit more than I thought. Look, I don't think you're going to wrong with these two. If I had a choice between them, I think I'm probably leaning... Goulden just and that's only because Heaney's start to the season did show that there's little bit of a gap between what his best and his worst is and he is one of those players that is versatile enough that he can avoid the tag while sort of floating down forward so I think I'm Goulden over Heaney but these two options with a nice fixture ah you probably can't go wrong but I'd be keen to hear both of you boys thoughts on it Harmi
00:29:00
Jon Harmey
No, I agree. yeah hay i Heaney is actually still bit of an impact player. I would expect Goulden to put up better scores, but I just find it really difficult with the Swans because they... ah Who do I compare them against? ah It's sort like...
00:29:20
Jon Harmey
A worse version of Brisbane. They just have a very defensive style of game and doesn't open itself up. I say that in what Heaney kicked five last week, didn't he? Smashed it. But ah just this year, I haven't been blown away with the scores that they've been putting up.
00:29:35
Lew
where Where it might be interesting is what Sydney decide to do over the next four weeks. So ah think finals are mathematically possible, but if they lose another one, it's all over. It's not happening.
00:29:47
Lew
ah Whether or not Sydney sort of throw caution to the wind and play the kids or or they try some game plan things. Obviously, Cox in his first season, he's got to try something, right? And I ah don't necessarily think that he's going to mess around too much with Heaney and Goulden, but it's about the...
00:30:04
Lew
you know, the chess pieces that are moving around them and how that can facilitate them actually scoring consistently over the next month.
00:30:12
Holmesy
yep Yeah, I agree with that. um I mean, the thing that's really enticing me with um these boys is they have Essendon. um If there's anyone that's in the Bontempele mould of getting ah bulk midfield minutes but then getting forward for goals, it's Isaac Heaney. So, you know, Bont had 140 on him. There's no one that can go with him. So I like Heaney this week, but then obviously Brisbane and Geelong, clearly those two good sides are not going to let Sydney just do what they want.
00:30:39
Holmesy
which is why Errol's probably the safer pick, although you know not having the having the pre-season, but then missing so much footy. 98 on the weekend, did go off with a bit of an injury and then came back on.
00:30:47
Lew
Thank you.
00:30:51
Holmesy
So you'd think he's fine, but a couple of 80s before that, he's not the Errol Goulden that we know and love, but it wouldn't surprise me if he has a ceiling game in the next four.
00:30:51
Jon Harmey
Louie.
00:31:02
Holmesy
Louis, before we go on to St Kilda, I just need to ask you a question. Will you fix your mental health this week and just get Messiah? Thank
00:31:10
Lew
No, I won't because I can't afford him.
00:31:10
Jon Harmey
louis
00:31:13
Lew
he's he's just He's priced in the stratosphere now and thought I thought was paying a lot ah six weeks ago when he was about 1.05 and now he's an extra 100,
00:31:24
Lew
one hundred one hundred and fifty k On top of that, we we speak about players that can take a season away from you. And it's a very exclusive club. There's not many that are in it, even though we do tend to exaggerate sometimes.
00:31:37
Lew
ah But Nassai, he's got to be right there at the top in terms of players that coaches don't own. That just punishes you every single week. It just... I mean, he's an absolute star, don't get me wrong, but the attention just doesn't come whatsoever.
00:31:54
Lew
Even despite the matchup, he's been like Teflon this year. So no, I won't be getting him. The mental health is definitely going to take a bit of a kick, but hopefully, fingers crossed, i can I can finish him with him in my side.
00:32:10
Holmesy
Just a ah quick shout out to Alistair, who's actually in Hatchat League with me, Hatchat League 2, who's currently sitting 17th overall and hasn't owned Nassaya all year.
00:32:21
Jon Harmey
Hmm, good on him.
00:32:21
Holmesy
So, I mean, think about that.
00:32:22
Jon Harmey
honey
00:32:23
Holmesy
It's unbelievable. Jack Sinclair, if you don't own him, his role is fantastic now that Nassaya's moving into the midfield. ah Back-to-back big tons. He's definitely someone to target.
00:32:36
Holmesy
Harmi, Jack McRae playing low time on ground, but he's gone 290s and a ton in his last four. Jack Steele carrying an injury. Is he someone that you'd feel safe um trading in in the forward line if you need to get a Caleb Daniel, Isaac Rankin type up?
00:32:54
Jon Harmey
Yes, I much prefer McRae over Rankin and Daniel that you mentioned. So, um yeah and on his day has a really big ceiling. I wouldn't have any concern with bringing in McRae.
00:33:07
Holmesy
Yep, I would agree with that. Louis, Rowan Marshall, um you know, got monstered by Max on the weekend, but he always gets monstered by Max. So I think he went 92 earlier in the year and then an 88 now coming into a ruckless North Melbourne and then Richmond and Essendon. Do you like Rowan Marshall as a bit of a pod um if you are someone still running Luke Jackson at R2 or you're looking for a ruck upgrade?
00:33:33
Lew
Yeah, big time. Yeah, we we touched on this last week that the max matchup was going to be the difficult one here, but after that it really opens up. So I can see Roma coming home strong. I think the Saints, after a really nice win on the weekend, might just finish off with a little bit of momentum, and I think Rowan Marshall is going to be a big part of that. So I'd be bringing him in as a point of difference for sure.
00:34:00
Holmesy
Louis, staying with you. So Geelong also with a nice fixture with some GMHBA games, but also um those good sides. So Baz Smith, I would have said up until the weekend, coaches that traded Baz out, you know, round 14, 15, when he started missing games and and not putting up the
Targeting Fixture Advantages
00:34:17
Holmesy
scores were probably ahead. But now that he's put another 130 on their heads and coming into some form, do you think it's time just to jump straight back on Baz if you were the ones that one of the ones that traded him out?
00:34:28
Lew
Yeah, jump back on. I've been saying it for weeks. he's He's an absolute star, and I think he's going to come home strong, as I said the other week. He's is probably looking towards a brown low, potentially, him and Nick Dacos, and he's got a couple of nice matchups there.
00:34:45
Lew
ah None more than that round 24 matchup with the Tigers, I think, and A lot of coaches on the way home on the last week are going to be targeting a lot of Geelong players just to really give them that last final push towards their final ranking.
00:35:00
Holmesy
Yep, yep, I agree with that one. And Harmi, his teammate, partner in crime, Max Holmes, do we think he's well entrenched in the top six now and he's someone to target if you're not an owner?
00:35:11
Jon Harmey
Yes, I do. Yeah, I mean, I ah don't have him and I can't get there. but But yeah, he's been a great pick most of the year. And um who would you tag, Holmes or Baz Smith? I'd tagging Smith every day if had a choice.
00:35:27
Jon Harmey
Anyway, yep, he's good pick.
00:35:27
Lew
Have have we seen have we seen Max Holmes off halfback either, boys? Because we can select him in the All-Australian team as a halfback this year.
00:35:37
Holmesy
He actually, to be I think against GWS a couple of weeks ago, he actually played off halfback. I think they might have been anticipating a tag and and put their structure around. um So that's that's a lever that they can pull if Holmes is being tagged. But I think you tag Holmes over Baz, I think he's more dangerous. But he's also, I think, they're both as hard to tag as each other. They're both so explosive.
00:35:59
Holmesy
um They can run all day. So... I think Geelong will have some big games to finish and you need Max Holmes if you don't have him. Last team to touch on is the Gold Coast Suns, Harmi.
00:36:11
Lew
Hang on, ah are we not going to mention Jeremy Cameron?
00:36:11
Holmesy
We have given... Oh, yeah, fair enough. Sorry, yeah, Jezza. You're right. talk Talk us through it, Lou.
00:36:19
Holmesy
You're you're big on this.
00:36:19
Lew
Well, i'll give I'll give Harmy the floor first.
00:36:22
Lew
as As an owner, he would have done his research. He's owned him for a fortnight now. He's reaped to the benefits.
00:36:27
Jon Harmey
I think i've heard I've had him for about four weeks. I can't remember why I brought him in. mustard The money must have lined up for something and I knew that Geelong had a good run. So, no, i yeah I've had him for a while.
00:36:40
Jon Harmey
Well, 11 goals, wasn't it? and i hate But he was doing it with ease. I mean, yeah, he's a great player. probably Probably the best key forward in the league, really.
00:36:47
Lew
So let's go.
00:36:50
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:36:51
Lew
He's got Port this week, who are shambles. Got done by 98 points on the weekend. So let's let's be conservative. We'll say four or five goals there, um plus all the rest.
00:37:02
Lew
Then you've got Essendon. Essendon aren't going to fire a shot here. They could let up 10 goals to Jezza, and this could be an absolute embarrassment.
00:37:06
Jon Harmey
that smashing
00:37:11
Lew
And I think that, you know, internally at Geelong, they've got to know that Cameron's nudging that ton pretty closely.
00:37:19
Jon Harmey
he does
00:37:19
Lew
After that, they've got Sydney. ah don't think they've been ah you know um that good defensively. And then finally, Richmond, where if he's even close to that 100, they are going to feed him something fierce. And I dare say, Holmesy, he might be the one that is wearing the captain band for you in round 24 as a last little nudge to to finish off.
00:37:42
Lew
So... For me, I'm almost thinking Jeremy Cameron might be the most impactful fantasy player over the next month of football um for the season. I really think that this is a guy that could come home, not unlike Sherry a well a year ago now where he was just pumping out 140s week on week on week. If...
00:38:04
Lew
If Geelong want to facilitate it and I'm not suggesting they will because it's probably not the best idea towards finals to play Jeremy Cameron ball, but if that does come to fruition, that could be a massive play for for a lot of coaches to make up some ground.
00:38:21
Holmesy
but and Now, I'm not saying this will happen. Clearly, it's a ah very long shot, but wouldn't it be poetic that Jeremy Cameron takes a Hilux away from John Harmy in 2019 and then goes full circle and hands me one this year?
00:38:34
Holmesy
Wouldn't that be wouldn't that be something, Harmy? But but no, not getting it not getting ahead of ourselves. Yeah, Lou, I i do like that. He's still someone that I'd much, I'd feel safer looping. Like he did have a 30 a couple of weeks ago. He did get injured, I think. but But yeah, you are right. He's he's chasing that 100 and they will know it.
00:38:34
Jon Harmey
Yeah, that would be good.
00:38:54
Lew
I might just have to Google what full circle means because John Harmy losing a Highlux coming around to Holmesy winning a Highlux doesn't quite add up for me. but
00:39:03
Jon Harmey
Pod, pod, full circle. Yeah.
00:39:04
Holmesy
full Full circle from from Tasmania.
00:39:06
Lew
It's the Pod Pod Brotherhood.
00:39:08
Holmesy
Yeah, from Tasmania all the way around up the top of Australia and then landing back in Perth, close enough, Harmi.
00:39:15
Jon Harmey
Yeah. oh Holmesy, I can't even remember what happened that round. think he may have, um it might have been, what, 154 points, his career high at the time. So, yeah, but yeah, hopefully it works out for you.
00:39:26
Lew
Well, Harmy did gift you, ah Jeremy Cameron, about 15 minutes ago, so we'll give you full circle.
00:39:33
Holmesy
Thanks. Thanks, Warnie. Get that done, please. Just swap them in my side, Harmi. You can have Chad Warner.
00:39:37
Lew
And just any of the top 20 listening, just um unlisten to that. Thanks. Just forget about it. Cheers.
00:39:45
Holmesy
Yeah, look, this pod might not see the light of day, I think.
Budget-Friendly Player Options
00:39:48
Holmesy
We might just have to technical Technical difficulties.
00:39:51
Lew
You're going to be sick in round 23, reckon.
00:39:51
Holmesy
ah Yeah.
00:39:56
Holmesy
let's ah Let's finish with Gold Coast. So Matt Rao, Harmy, he's had no love from the community. It's always been, when is this going to end? But two 140s in the last three weeks,
00:40:07
Holmesy
man possessed when anderson gets the attention he goes nuts 1.12 mil i think off the top of my head so quite expensive now but has richmond uh he also has carlton who are not going very well either matt rau could you pay up or do you think you'd rather a noah anderson
00:40:30
Jon Harmey
As a Anderson owner, which i know you are as well, Holmesy, I'd probably go Matt Rao. Man, far out. Anderson just, he's just very up and down.
00:40:39
Lew
If money's not a thing, surely it's row.
00:40:42
Jon Harmey
Yeah, think it is.
00:40:43
Holmesy
Yeah, if money if money is not a thing, but say you don't have enough money to get up to Rau, would you be confident um targeting a Noah Anderson with the fixture?
00:40:54
Jon Harmey
What about your 23rd premium, Braden Fiorini? Have you got him on the list?
00:41:00
Holmesy
ah Look, we are contractually yeah we are contractually obliged to mention Braden Fiorini on this show when he's going well.
00:41:02
Jon Harmey
Dossie be spewing with you.
00:41:08
Holmesy
Far out, he's been good. What is he up to?
00:41:09
Holmesy
About 900K now. I've given him no love.
00:41:10
Jon Harmey
ah yeah.
00:41:11
Jon Harmey
Nah, yeah. I've got him in a draft.
00:41:13
Holmesy
He's good.
00:41:14
Jon Harmey
graph Yeah, 908,000. Nah, I think
00:41:16
Lew
I don't know if I'd be bringing in Nanderson. ah
00:41:20
Jon Harmey
not ah don't think so
00:41:21
Lew
Giants screams a tag. Port is difficult in general. um Generally, ah don't know if Carlton let him run free. like Matt Rowe is going to be a hard man to stop. He's a clearance beast, whereas Nanderson is a little bit more on the outside. So...
00:41:37
Lew
Expecting him to feast this week, but if you gave me a choice of Raul or Anderson over the next four weeks, I'm comfortably in the Raul camp. and like This guy has gone basically not under 105 since round 11.
00:41:51
Lew
He's probably one of the form players of the fantasy comp. I think if money's not an issue, you just lock and load with that fixture to come.
00:42:00
Jon Harmey
Oh, hold He has outscored Dacos in the last three weeks.
00:42:06
Lew
There you go. That's big.
00:42:09
Holmesy
Yeah, I know because I just know. Anyway, um we have some players to discuss from the listeners and then we'll get into some questions to finish.
00:42:14
Lew
Yeah,
00:42:18
Holmesy
So we're going to go quick like or dislike. um Don't have to give too much, but just some quick thoughts on these players. So, Louis, for you, Stephen Cornelio, if we're strapped for cash, I think, is he forward eligible?
00:42:31
Holmesy
I should check that, but I think he is.
00:42:32
Jon Harmey
Yes.
00:42:32
Lew
yeah he's a forward, yes.
00:42:33
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:42:34
Holmesy
um You know, if you're someone that dabbled in a Jack Martin, Jack Ross, ah Tim Kelly type area, is a Canelio someone that you'd consider?
00:42:43
Lew
He would be, yeah. I think I would consider Stephen Cornelio at the price point, 659K forward. He's got the Dogs, North Suns and the Saints.
00:42:55
Lew
Obviously, he's been struck down by injury all season. I think he's building... um Just going to back in the player here and just knowing that the the bottom end of that top six forward line is a little bit of a chook raffle. So think for 650K, you could do a lot worse than Stephen Canelio.
00:43:17
Holmesy
Harmi, one of your boys, Tim Kelly, not sure if you're still running around with him, but midfield role looked better on the weekend, 26 possessions, two goals for the Eagles. Do you move past Tim Kelly or do you think he's still someone you can bring in?
00:43:31
Jon Harmey
Yeah, picked him up a couple of weeks ago and he sits on my bench in my forward line and, um yeah, I mean, I've got no issue with him being there and trying to loop him on, I suppose. He's so cheap. He's $530,000 or something like that.
00:43:47
Jon Harmey
Yep, yep. If that's all you could get as a bench loop option, I'd be fine with it.
00:43:54
Holmesy
Louis, off the back of a sneaky good run over the last month or so, Jake Saligo, 120 on the weekend, does have a relatively tough run coming up. Hawthorne, then Eagles, but in Collingwood and North. So it's actually quite mixed.
00:44:08
Holmesy
Jake Saligo as a pod or do you think you shoot higher at this stage of the year?
00:44:13
Lew
I think I'd leave this one alone as a mid only. I think I'd rather look elsewhere. We've seen that he's had some really good moments, Jake Saligo, and then he's crashed back to earth and had um larger periods of time where he just hasn't been able to put up the fantasy points that we would like. So Hawthorne this week, it's not exactly um the ideal matchup to come into. i know he's got some nice ones following, but I think I'd shop elsewhere.
00:44:38
Holmesy
Yep, agree with that, Harmi. Next player is Tom Green. So ah player at times I've felt a little bit sick not owning when he when he goes on some of his big games, but he's had some floor games this year as well.
00:44:53
Holmesy
I think ah with the emergence of Finn Callaghan and the fact that Whitfield and Lockie Ash have been commanding so much ball back there that he's not required on the outside. So is Tom Green someone you're happy to just fade as ah as a midfield option?
00:45:06
Jon Harmey
Oh, yeah, I wouldn't be bringing him in. There's somebody above you that's got him too, Holmesy, so that's the good news. No, 72, I think. that what he got? Man, you can't put up with that as a top 15 coach.
00:45:18
Lew
You know how every year we come in, we say, ah Tom Liberatore is one of the best players in the comp, but we're not going to pick him in fantasy.
00:45:19
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:45:26
Lew
This is where Tom Green sits now. He's a c clearance beast and quite often he's in the best players, but it doesn't mean it's going to reflect in a fantasy score. And I think Tom Green is one that, you know, he's going to have some really nice highs, but it just seems that he likes to drop scores between 70 and 90 far too often, even despite sort of touching the ball 30 times.
00:45:47
Lew
He's just not that guy.
00:45:50
Holmesy
Yeah, yeah, agree with that. or he He does have some nice matchups to finish. So, you know, maybe you play that matchup later on down the track. But yeah, he's someone that I am happy to fade for a while.
00:46:02
Holmesy
ah Louis, James Sicily. So back-to-back 80s and then 115 on the weekend. Is he someone that maybe you could target as a 23rd premium for a bit of loop action? loop action Or is he someone you're happy to sort of fade for the year?
00:46:17
Lew
At the price tag, I don't hate it. ah Not sure i love the matchups though, so I'd probably leave that one, I think.
Analyzing Player Roles and Impact
00:46:27
Holmesy
Yeah, I think, look, if you're running, you know maybe you don't have that much cash and you need to fix two players, maybe you need to fix Doherty and someone else, maybe you could consider going Doherty down to a Sicily and then using that cash with some other to maybe get up on another player. I don't hate that option if you've got...
00:46:45
Holmesy
multiple players you need to fix but I think James Sicily showed what he is this year he's been out of forms at times but Battle, Baras, Amon, Hawthorne playing that selfless ah brand of footy where they don't need to score I think the Sicily going bonkers is something that we're not going to see Lou
00:47:05
Lew
Yeah, it's over in terms of the ceiling scores, the one fifty s that we used to see. But I think what we are seeing at the moment is probably the role that Sicily was going to play at the beginning of the year um before sort of Mitch Lewis, Cal Shadier, Jack Gunston were in the mix. And now that they're all playing in that forward line, there's just no room for Sicily. So he's back in that original role where we really like to have him. But I think that the ceiling is massively clipped with some of those players that you just mentioned, Holmesy.
00:47:36
Holmesy
Now, Harmi, this next one, be very careful because I can imagine Sam listening to the podcast and almost crying if you don't give the correct answer. Lockie Ash, 60 on the weekend, cop some attention from Campbell by the sounds of it. I didn't see that, but it did look like Sydney were um at times making him accountable.
00:47:56
Holmesy
Lockie Ash, now that he's back down to a million dollars, is he someone that you'd be happy to trade into to shore up your defense?
00:48:02
Jon Harmey
A defender having to defend. You hate to see don't you, as a fantasy coach? um Let's have a look. They've got the Bulldogs, North, Suns, Saints. They've still got pretty nice run.
00:48:17
Jon Harmey
Yeah, but I'm not sure where he compares to some of those other defenders. I mean, we spoke about Holmes earlier. I'd much rather him. Spoke about Sinclair. I'd much rather him. So, yeah, but he should go well for the next four weeks.
00:48:31
Holmesy
Yep, I like it personally. He's someone that I've kind of looked at if I do decide to go the double sideways option or double upgrade option. But I think he's got, you know, the Matt Kennedy.
00:48:42
Holmesy
When Matt Kennedy went 30, everyone all of a sudden was very cautious to trade him in and admittedly he had the high break even. But I think body of work for Lockie Ash gets it done here with some nice matchups. I think he will have some tons to finish the year.
00:48:56
Holmesy
Louis, your boy, Josh Dacos, can you trade into him?
00:49:02
Lew
I think so. Yeah, I think you'd trade into Josh Dacos. the He's sort of yeah a 95 guy. So if you're looking for a little bit more than that, then maybe shop elsewhere. But I think this is a guy that's established a really nice floor over a consistent period of time. So for me, think if you're if you're looking for that, then Josh Dacos is one to target. We've also seen that when he's maybe copying some attention, he does have that lever that he can pull where he goes into the midfield, which um I'm sure a lot of fantasy coaches probably happy. It happens more often, but no, I'm pretty okay with Josh Dacos, but I'd be keen to hear your thoughts on it, Harmi.
00:49:46
Jon Harmey
I just feel as though the last three have just been home as you get in our thoughts on players he's looking at targeting himself. For his d seven
00:49:55
Holmesy
This list is straight from the listeners, Harmi. If you guys would help me with the show doc every now and again, we wouldn't be having this issue.
00:49:59
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:50:01
Holmesy
um It's what the listeners want to hear. um ah What I will say, Lou, about Josh Dacos is he has the uncanny ability, like Dane Zorko, to just save a score when Collingwood are up or whatever they're doing to manage in the fourth quarter.
Consistent Performers and Psychological Benefits
00:50:18
Holmesy
He gets some filthy footy just to to to finish off the the game. lot of marks. um So, yeah, he's definitely a stat counter, you know.
00:50:24
Lew
He's a stat counter.
00:50:28
Holmesy
He's going to get to 70, 80 most weeks, even in a stinker. And more ah more often than not, he tons and and finishes strong. And I know that because I'm a Nuffy that watches the score. And I always hope for a floor game from him, knowing that he's owned and he typically gets there. So yeah, I think he's still a rung below some of the top guys. I don't think he's in the top six defenders, but at the same time, all you need is a couple of ceiling games to finish the year and it doesn't really matter. So yeah, Josh Dacos, I don't think you can go wrong.
00:50:56
Holmesy
ah Louis sorry Harmi Grian Myers talk to me about him so he's come down in price now he's not quite the million dollar price tag that he was three or four weeks ago 16 CBAs on the weekend so I'm not sure what that was about plays high half forward gets up the ground good matchups to come which we spoke about could you go Grian Myers
00:51:18
Jon Harmey
Well, you could. Yeah. hu bit I've been saying the same thing all year that I'm bit off him and wouldn't really somebody be targeting.
00:51:22
Lew
Thanks, Hami.
00:51:27
Jon Harmey
and Well, and right now, his price is still $943,000. So what's he priced at? You know, what, $95,000. So, yeah, I just, I wouldn't be bringing him in again.
00:51:40
Jon Harmey
button But I've been wrong plenty of times on him.
00:51:43
Holmesy
Yeah. once Once again, though, if you don't have, yeah, if you don't have, like say you've got it like those same names before, like your Caleb Daniels, Isaac Rankins, or one of those punt F6 options, getting up to a grind Myers, I have no issues with whatsoever.
00:51:44
Lew
I brought him in this week.
00:51:45
Jon Harmey
Did you? Well done, Luke.
00:51:59
Holmesy
It's when you're looking to go sideways on a Chad Warner, Jack McRae, those types to a grind Myers, I'm not sure it's a massive upgrade and and could even burn you on the other side.
00:52:09
Jon Harmey
So, Lou, I went Darcy and got his 117, which I know you were looking at as well, but you went Myers instead then.
00:52:17
Lew
Yep, yep.
00:52:19
Lew
So I was Darcy all week and I was going to put the VC on him as well. um And then i sort of thought about it and obviously Sam Darcy's got Sam Taylor the week following. So thought to myself, oh, 120 plus, let's let's be generous, let's say 80, 100 over two weeks.
00:52:39
Lew
I just thought Brian Myers with the fixture at the time was Northport, Essendon, Sydney, Richmond was someone that could produce a few more points over five weeks. But Also, it's all within context. like I had players like Myles Bergman and Caleb Daniel who I was really worried about that I didn't want to you know and be forced not to be able to trade out the week following. I just like Brian Myers because he feels like a guy who's more often than not, going to put up a really safe floor. I don't feel like he dishes up too many stinkers just because he is that um <unk>s that guy that sort of waxes in between everybody else at Geelong. I think he's generally pretty good for a 90, and every now and then you do get a really big ceiling score from him.
00:53:22
Lew
And with Essendon to come, he'd give up the most marks to then any other side, and then Richmond, obviously, in the grand final. I just think that Brian Myers is one that can...
00:53:34
Lew
Be top six. if If you'd lined up all the forwards in a row, I'd be picking Grine Myers to be a top six forward based on what I've seen every single time.
00:53:45
Holmesy
Yep, yep, I agree with all of that, Lou. All right, boys, let's finish with some questions from the listeners. We're almost done. Harmi, I'll start with you. First question's from Sean.
00:53:56
Holmesy
Hey, lads, rank 232. um So chasing a cap here, Harmi.
00:53:59
Jon Harmey
Mm-hmm.
00:54:00
Holmesy
He's got three trade options here. Okay, so there's two of the trade options um are him doing a rookie downgrade. um And the the first one he's got is actually a double sideways. So he can go McKercher to Whitfield and then Daniel to Jeremy Cameron.
00:54:15
Holmesy
So um think of that as being double sideways or he goes a rookie down and takes Daniel to Myers or McCarthy to Myers. So you someone in his position, do you prefer to go the rookie down to get another premium up or do you prefer the double side upgrade?
00:54:33
Jon Harmey
Without seeing his team, the rookie down to a premium is the way to go. Most of the time.
00:54:41
Holmesy
And then would you go Caleb Daniel or Tom McCarthy?
00:54:45
Jon Harmey
Out. um
00:54:47
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:54:48
Jon Harmey
Well, I'd probably go Daniel out at this point. He's not looking that great and hasn't done for a month, so.
00:54:55
Lew
Yeah, he's he's one that coaches might need to worry about this week.
00:54:55
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:54:59
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:54:59
Lew
The jungle drums are beating.
00:55:02
Holmesy
Yep, I agree with that. Hopefully the decision is made for you. Louis, this one's from Bontsville Wizard. Hi, lads. Great work, Holmesy. Hopefully you can win the whole thing, mate. Cheers, Bonts. Appreciate that.
00:55:14
Holmesy
He's looking at Doc and Clark to Wanganaruki. So he really just wants to get Messiah Wanganin-Milera.
00:55:20
Holmesy
And he's also thinking if Rosie is out, Rosie to Whitfield and Doc to Butters. But let's assume um Rosie is playing. Do you tick off going the rookie down and then taking Doc to Nasaira? I think I know your answer.
00:55:20
Jon Harmey
Mm-hmm.
00:55:33
Lew
Yeah, absolutely. Lock and load. By all reports, so far, it sounds like Rosie's going to play. um Yeah, Dr. Wang is 50, 60, 70 points a week upgrade.
00:55:46
Holmesy
Well, it's 130-point upgrade, isn't it, with doc Doc retiring? But yeah, can't say this enough. Just get Nesaya. Your mental health will be better.
00:55:58
Holmesy
Harmi, this one's from Lauren. So this one's thinking about, you know, do we play aggressive and trade Rosie this week, even if he's named? So... ah she's thinking she can get aggressive, take Rankin to Kennedy and then Rosie to any one of those top line premiums that we spoke about. So could you get aggressive and trade Rosie out with a tough matchup against Geelong and knowing that he's ah he's not fit at the moment?
00:56:24
Jon Harmey
Yes, you could. Yep. No worries. sir look What you got there? Rankin to Kennedy. like that. And then Rosie to Ash Anderson Gordon. Well, yes, probably, yeah, Ash or Gordon.
00:56:39
Holmesy
Thank
00:56:41
Jon Harmey
What do you reckon, Lou? Ash or Gordon? Who'd you take?
00:56:45
Lew
I think I would take Gordon just based on the body of work, but I don't disparage Ash at all.
00:56:52
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:56:54
Lew
He's been a testament to consistency pretty much all season, bar round two and last week. um But it's interesting with Rosie though, isn't it? He sort of had a really tough matchup on the weekend, still scored the 95 in just torrential rain.
00:57:09
Jon Harmey
ninety five
00:57:12
Lew
ah Seven tackles, that kind of suggests to me that maybe the hand was feeling okay. ah So if he's named in round 21 against the Cats, I don't know how much how many points are up for grabs in comparison to some of these players. So to be honest with you, I'd probably be leaning towards actually just holding Connor Rosie.
00:57:33
Holmesy
Yep, yep, I agree there. You can trade him, but I think you know outside of his injured game, he's been a 106 averaging player all year. um He played 95% or whatever ah whatever it was, time on ground on the weekend.
00:57:45
Holmesy
If they say his hand's fine, he gets up to play, I think he's going to be more than fine. So yeah, I wouldn't be trading him, but at the same time, if you want to make be aggressive and take a punt, these are some of the things we have to do.
00:57:59
Holmesy
Louis, I'll stay with you. So this one's from David. What would be best here? He's got Daniel to Kennedy, Long to Anderson or Dale to Sinclair.
00:58:11
Lew
ah I'd have to go long to Anderson. It feels like that's the biggest gap positionally. I think Dale can um can match it with Sinclair. When he's in form, I'm not sure what the numbers look like recently. Obviously, Sinclair's come into a really nice role with Wangane shifting out.
00:58:30
Lew
um How's Dale been going, boys? Any of you guys owners?
00:58:35
Holmesy
He tagged on the weekend for a 60-odd.
00:58:35
Jon Harmey
up and down.
00:58:36
Jon Harmey
no
00:58:37
Holmesy
It's what he does. I think you just get off him.
00:58:39
Lew
Yeah.
00:58:39
Holmesy
He's he's up and down. um actually do like the Dale to Sinclair option, if we're if we're honest. I think Long, yes, Long has to go, but he has Brisbane this week. That's going to be a tight, contested game at the MCG.
00:58:53
Holmesy
i mean, that decision might be taken away from you anyway. Pendlebury was rested on the weekend, and I'm not sure they're going to... The role for Long isn't as good with Tom Mitchell in the side, so... Maybe it is long, um but you do want to plan to get rid of Dale sometime soon.
00:59:08
Holmesy
um And he does have GWS this week. Bedford's been playing up forward. There could be some attention there anyway.
00:59:14
Holmesy
um I'm torn, Harmy.
00:59:14
Lew
Look, I'd back in the better player.
00:59:17
Lew
I think I'd just back in Dale over Long um and then Daniel to Kennedy. That might be decided for you anyway, but I feel like that's probably the the number three option.
00:59:28
Jon Harmey
Long to see and clear. That's what I'd do. if think If you, if you, yeah.
00:59:31
Lew
Yeah.
00:59:32
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:59:32
Lew
Yeah, I think that's probably where the money is.
00:59:36
Holmesy
Yep, Harmy, that's where my head went to actually. Harmy, last question from Fantasy Nub. He wants help with his three trade options below. So he's got Daniel and McCarthy to Kennedy and Young, Clark and Roston to a rookie and Matt Kennedy with McCarthy as the 23rd loop, or Clark and Mills slash Mkircha to a rookie and Nassai Wanganin-Miller. So do you go to the top?
01:00:02
Holmesy
Do you do a rookie down, rookie up to get Kennedy or do you look at just getting Kennedy from a rookie from Caleb Daniel?
01:00:12
Jon Harmey
Just give me one sec, have a look at this young Young being Hayden Young, I'm assuming, in the first one.
01:00:17
Holmesy
Oh, yeah. Yep. True. Sorry. So, yeah. ah Getting Kennedy and taking a punt on Hayden Young. So, double sideways, hoping that they're both upgrades.
01:00:29
Jon Harmey
Third one, Clark and Mills, with Kutcher, to two rookie and the sire.
01:00:38
Jon Harmey
a don't know. I'm bit torn between two and three. i don't really like one as much. So...
01:00:48
Jon Harmey
don't know. No, don't know. Holmesy?
01:00:53
Holmesy
Really good on being ah on a podcast where we need to give our opinion, Harmi.
01:00:53
Lew
I'm two.
01:00:56
Holmesy
Well,
01:00:56
Jon Harmey
Well, it's three.
01:00:58
Jon Harmey
It's too confusing.
01:00:59
Holmesy
yeah but I mean, if one looks good, if Hayden Young comes off, then you're away to the races, right? I do worry about them still managing his time on ground, but they do have Carlton this week at Optus, which is, as a Frio fan, I'm hoping they are they i smash him.
01:01:07
Jon Harmey
Yes.
01:01:14
Holmesy
um But I am going to revert back. Actually, no, I'm not. Clark and Roston to a rookie in Matt Kennedy. I think that's the safer play.
01:01:22
Holmesy
I think that's going to give the biggest upgrade on field. um You're getting McCarthy off, which is what we need to do at this time of year. he He's had some 70s.
01:01:23
Lew
Yeah.
01:01:29
Jon Harmey
Yeah, i agree.
01:01:30
Holmesy
Yeah.
01:01:31
Holmesy
um
01:01:31
Jon Harmey
It's the second one I gave.
01:01:33
Holmesy
ye
01:01:33
Lew
We've seen a lot of players with interrupted pre-seasons, interrupted seasons that have come back and been okay and then you know hit the wall, so to speak, and it and it drops off.
01:01:43
Lew
And Hayden Young is, well, that was his first good score, 98 post that sub game. I can see a little bit of management there potentially um or just a little bit of soreness that comes on naturally from just not having played AFL footy for so long.
01:01:59
Lew
I reckon it's option two. And look, if you really, really, really want Nassai Wanganin-Miller, then I'm not going to talk you out of number three either, Holmesy, because what does picking Nassai Wanganin-Miller do for you?
01:02:13
Holmesy
It fixes your mental health. And that's what we're all about here at the Pod Pod is being happy and enjoying fantasy football, which is what we are going to wrap up with, boys.
01:02:24
Holmesy
ah Thanks again, as always, for jumping on. I really appreciate it. um As always, listeners, make sure you're following us on Twitter at PodPod AFL and make sure if you are subscribed to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever wherever you listen to your content, that would be appreciated.
01:02:40
Holmesy
Four rounds of AFL footy to go or fantasy footy. Yeah, look, have a good week. Once again, hopefully there's some other big ceiling scores and you have a good round and we'll be back next week to talk and do it all again.
01:02:52
Holmesy
Bye.