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It's the Season Finale, and we're going out with a bang (or maybe a passive-aggressive apartment battle)! We're dissecting the messy, realistic drama of the 2006 anti-rom-com, The Break-Up.
For this special edition roundtable, we are absolutely thrilled to welcome our very first-ever guests, Crys and Audrey, to the mic! Plus, in a very special edition appearance, my wife, Natalie, also joins the conversation.
Is the movie a cautionary tale, a masterclass in bad communication, or just a really painful comedy? We're diving deep into the most cringe-worthy moments, the bowling date awkwardness, and debating who was actually in the wrong—Vince Vaughn or Jennifer Aniston's character.
Grab a drink and settle in. This is one finale discussion you won't want to break up with!
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Introduction to 'Spoiler Alert, It's Different Now'
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This show is not suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised.
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Buenos dias mi gente! Welcome to Spoiler Alert, It's Different Now, the podcast where we lovingly ruin our childhoods by re-watching movies that definitely should have come with warning I'm your host, Joanne Rojas, and each episode, a friend drops by to laugh, cringe, and spiral with me through the cinematic relics of our youth.
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Because nostalgia is fun, until you really pay attention.
Guests Return for Season Finale
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Rated R for Reflection.
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Welcome back to another episode of Spoiler Alert. It's different now. we are joined by some very amazing and special guests. You may recognize them from our first episode ever.
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Crystal and Audrey are joining us one more time to close out season
Analyzing 'The Breakup' (2006)
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one. Season one has been an amazing journey and it started right here. And today we get to add on my amazing wife and I'm happy to have her alongside me as we jump into this movie. Audrey and Crystal, welcome. Welcome back. It is a pleasure to have you guys here.
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i'm so happy to have y'all. Hey, y'all. Hey, yo. So let's jump into it. Talk to me about the movie that you picked. Not me. Talk to them, right? Our audience. The people.
00:01:39
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Tell the people why you picked this movie and where we we are headed today in this conversation. So the movie we chose, The Breakup, which aired back in 2006, is going on 20 years. Oh, wow. Wow.
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I can say 20 years ago. Yeah. How old am I? I didn't know who's that old. i didn't look it up. This is the first time I don't look up the year. Jennifer Aniston. I better look it up either.
00:02:06
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Yeah. Jennifer Aniston. I wouldn't say she was in her prime, but she was in her prime because she's still in her prime now. Let's be real. I love that woman. Yes. she's i I love her. Anyway, besides that. She's aging so well. Yes. It's because she's unproblematic.
00:02:19
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Gorgeous. And we're just going leave it there because ah fact is a fact. Yep. So I chose this movie just because it's a classic to me um in the sense of like rom-com, like heartbreak timeframe back in the early 2000s. They had such great movies and I was telling Chris about it and what is it? Like the first few minutes of the movie, there's the dinner scene when they have all their, when they have like family over and they're doing like a dinner party and it lasted so long. And I was like, you know what?
00:02:47
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Yeah. They don't make movies like this where like they make a fucking scene last so long and it's ridiculously funny, but also just ridiculous overall.
Reflecting on 2000s Rom-Coms and Personal Memories
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But you can't help but laugh and be like, what the hell are we watching? It's happening. watching Yeah.
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And I'm like, you don't make movies like this no more. Like this is detail. This is some shit that later on when he mentions it again, you're going to like, I remember why you felt like that. Right. These movies don't do that no more. So, um personally, i just love this movie in general. And Vince Vaughn has always been such an amazing actor to me.
00:03:18
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He's hilarious and long-winded, but I love it. Yeah. Yeah. He's pretty funny. I thought everything he said was witty and hilarious. And I was just like, wow, i I remember the movie being a rom-com, obviously, but it was genuinely funny. And it's to the points that you just said, like they took their time and laying the foundation for these jokes to land every single time. So yeah, great point.
00:03:44
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Everything about that movie was spot It was really good. Yeah, it was really good. I really enjoyed watching that movie. How old were we in 2006?
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20 years ago, I was like, uh, 11. 20 years ago that we were, you were 11? I was 11, babe. I'm 31 going on 32. Oh, right. Okay, so I was 12. Okay, so I'm sorry I get older.
Exploring Relationship Dynamics and Growth
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I'm not. Okay. In 2006, I was graduating high school.
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i went to boot camp in June 2006. I was a Marine by September 2006. So was an adult and a warrior. A moment of silence for those days for you, huh?
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Yeah. No, for real though, because I think about it often. I'm like, yo, that life was a lifetime ago. So yeah, like a moment of silence because I really don't even like I I don't mourn that person. I just know that that person is is very much left in the past.
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ah I agree. I mean, I was only, eleven you know, so I was in my prime. I was still learning so much. um I was going to say, what were you doing in the fifth grade? um I was listening to Chris Brown and doing Sierra and his moves.
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So that was a time. really was. It's still a time. I'm not gonna lie to you guys. It's still a time. um I still look almost exactly the same. So there's that.
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right can't really provide anything more to you guys if i'm being honest just a few more tattoos that is too that that is too that is true sorry i've been drinking wine for a little bit now right we're celebrating yes but um yes definitely more tattoos more knowledge more wisdom if you will but different time. i can eleven 11? That sounds like don't, like, I couldn't, that's not possibly true that 20 years ago i was 11.
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I don't think so. 2006 being 20 years ago is crazy. knew I was a little older because I remember watching this and. A little older. Ooh. Right, no. Older.
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I remember being a little older in the sense of, like, at that point in time I had a boyfriend or something like that and this. The fucking ghetto, for real. I was like. You had a boyfriend at 13?
00:05:57
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I had lost my virginity. Hey, why are we talking about this? So we're here. It's okay. We're we're reflecting. its this is this Listen, this movie's called The Breakup. I imagine some of our past is going to surface, right? like i mean I would imagine that we're not pulling from our experiences to talk about the movie. No, but that's not.
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Right. but that But I don't think Crystal was watching this movie like identifying with the movie of 13. So she's good. She was experimenting. Yeah.
00:06:29
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So looking back at it, I was like, wow, that seems pretty intense. And then later down the line, year of years later, after... being in multiple relationships.
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Yeah. I was, I, I could relate. I related to that. thought it was her one and only, y'all. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know where Emmy came from. was magic, you know, but honestly, I thought it was her one and only. You heard this shit?
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Yeah. Listen. Multiple relationships, the
Impact of Cancel Culture and Social Changes
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ghetto. Well, yeah. This is good. This is healthy because those relationships inform not only your perspective of the movie, which is what we're talking about now, but also your position in this relationship and the ones that we're in today. Which we did talk about. Yeah.
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She can't be, you can't be who you are in this relationship without having had those relationships, no matter how many they were. many were they? how many were they Neither here nor there.
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All right. We're not going to talk about that. The silence said enough. Yeah, no. So I wanted to point out one thing. you You mentioned the dinner in the beginning of the movie, but it opens with the baseball game. And I want to know, you guys, what were your thoughts were on on the baseball game and how he was able to kind of woo her?
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First of all, finesse. That white man with a beer belly had finesse. Because what do you mean? You want a hot dog? He just kept it going from there? And he had aura before aura was a thing. Let's be real. And I don't get where he got it from because there's nothing I see in that man that's like, wow.
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There's a comedian who she talks about. She's like, you know, a woman will like take your breath away from like across the room. That's what it is. she's Yes. She's like, but I've never seen a man in a baseball cap. I'm like, oh my God, who is that beautiful man? Like, and that's what I thought about in that scene. Cause it's like, Vince, how did you get...
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It's it Jennifer! You know? He was just so... yeah it was funny. And that's... That's where you got him. He was just so funny. And she was actually on a date, wasn't She was on a date with a man with a plaid shirt or plaid shorts, and a tufted shirt.
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Yeah, he mentioned that a few times. That made me cackle. He bought her a hot dog. He was you're going to eat this hot dog, pretty much. Yeah, he said, you like mustard? I'm going to give you two packets. Right. but Yeah, he was very confident, too.
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Yes. I like that. Not a lot of people are... I can't say that, but and feel like I feel like aren't really like that nowadays. No. No, everybody is so... With cancel culture and the way people communicate and lack communication and, you know, people calling somebody out, you can't say, oh my God, you're beautiful, because then you get on TikTok and there' there's that person you call beautiful saying...
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Tell me why this bitch want to say I was beautiful. She was weird as hell. Right. What's wrong with her? I'm a girl's girl, bitch. I was just saying. And then, you know, so people do a lot of fucked up shit online and that's where people now have lacked that confidence. miss that. It's a different time now, but I miss that. I miss the fact that you can back that you were able to just go up to somebody, not in a creepy way or in a disrespectful way right very respectfully like i think you're you're beautiful like the guy at wawa um with you right right did you hear him when we was at the at the wawa now he was like he was having a full-blown conversations conversation with me
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As soon as we go to leave, he goes, he like practically runs to grab her and goes, and you're such a beautiful woman. Oh my God. And he's just like in awe with his coffee in his hand. And was like, wow.
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wow you know friend da yeah i love I love that. i love people who can, you know, be ballsy enough to, but not disrespectful.
Character Dynamics and Humor in Movies
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There's a difference.
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There's a difference between being disrespectful and then just being, what's the word? Creepy? No. Cringe? As the kids would call I'm saying disrespectful, cringe, and then just being, I guess, respectful.
00:10:32
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Right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking for specific word. there are There are levels to this and a lot of people and don't always. Consider it. ah her Yeah. Consider it.
00:10:47
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Yes. and Because you you can still say the thing and say it in a way where it's not, where it's considerate of their partner, right? and Yeah. Yeah. I agree.
00:10:57
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I was thinking about how you said that that like it's not a thing these days. And it's true. It's such a lost art, like being able to hold the conversation or show up in a way where you're putting yourself on full display with a certain aura or confidence.
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Right. And he was just like, you're mine. Like we're going out tomorrow type of thing. Right. So i was like, that's awesome because there's no way I could do that. But it also made me wonder now. What if you were the guy in the plaid shirt, for example, Audrey, and somebody is buying Crystal a hot dog at the baseball game and pretty much saying that they're dating now?
00:11:32
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Two things. couple of things, not just two, several things. i don't know. I am funny as hell. Okay. And if you can make them giggle, you can make them cheeks jiggle. That's number one. Okay. Number two, I'm not wearing no shirt with ah the shirt tucked in and a visor looking like a fucking bleep.
00:11:53
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Okay. But what if you, if it was me guess what? That's what I'm i'm getting to it. If it was me, genuinely speaking, you wasn't mine. We never there was this was either something that was our first date and you was just easy.
00:12:06
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Bye. Because now, OK, you will never see me again. Right. And when you do see me, I won't see you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that's what it is. And that's to That's all going say, because I'm a bad bitch.
00:12:19
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And if somebody is going to take a moment like that, first of all, you are fucking floozy. Not a floozy. A floozy. You was a Jezebel. Because how dare you look at me. We're going be on this date and I'm talking to you and you're looking at another guy.
00:12:34
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Because let's be real, she did that, by the way. She saw him talking it to his best friend, proceeded to look at him. Because that's how this it starts, too, with her looking at him. And the next thing you know, he peeps her. yeah And now you want to act like, no, stop. It made that eye contact.
00:12:49
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And then was giggling. Let the man keep her there while her the guy she was with woke off. If that happened to me, um I might fight. Because that's one route, but also, I mean, I could just move on. It doesn't matter. Right. How long do you think they were together for? Because they didn't say that. It wasn't, right? No. It was just a date. Even if it wasn't first date, it was probably couple dates in. Like, probably wasn't anything serious yet. They probably hadn't even slept together for real. They anything.
00:13:12
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No, because the story is about how they fall in love at the baseball game. And then I love how they went straight from just the baseball game and him hitting on her to a full on relationship.
Cohabitation Challenges and Relationship Tensions
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I love that. was going to say that the pictures was the opening of the movie. It painted such a picture. and they did everything together. Holidays, family events, special events. Yeah.
00:13:35
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and when I love that part. When seen it, I was like, did it say like five years later or something? Because was going to be watching it. She was like, no, babe. And I was like, oh, okay. But the pictures made sense to where it led up to.
00:13:49
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i saw her, I saw Chris the same thing. i was like, you know what? I was like, they don't tell us how long it's been that they were together. i was like, but it had to be at least a little bit time because they bought a condo together. It's not like they just got together and then six months later they bought a condo. That takes time.
00:14:02
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You know what I'm saying? But I definitely, I like the way that they did the pictures. I like when movies do that. When they show you by seasons and stuff without having to tell you six months later. You know what I mean? I very much so like that because then I can visualize how much time has gone by on my own.
00:14:18
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and then go from there rather than them saying, it six months because sometimes that's not realistic. right Movies make it unrealistic. Time is very unrealistic in movies and I don't always like that. I have mentioned it in any movie that we watch and anything that we talk it comes to that. i hate that. I hate unrealistic time.
00:14:35
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I'm going to call it out and I will be watching it. I'm like, every time we watch a movie she's or a show, she's like, but how much time has gone by? Two seconds? Yeah. I mentioned that too. Okay.
00:14:49
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We just mentioned that when we were talking about Friday, we were like, it's been like eight hours. Like the the day is so long, but it's nothing has happened and everything has happened at the same time. It's so weird. But we fast forward and and we see that, you know, after they open the movie with all these amazing pictures of all these amazing moments that they have spent together um throughout their time building the relationship. Now we have Gary, who's a tour guide, working alongside his brothers.
00:15:15
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And we have Brooke, who is, I'm assuming, an art curator. That's what came to mind. But she works in a gallery. So she... Like a dealer. Yeah, like a broker of some sort. So she...
00:15:28
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she their jobs and their interests are drastically different, which I thought was interesting and in them making sure that that was illustrated early in the movie.
00:15:39
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And... One of the quotes that came from that opening scene of her in the gallery was something to the effect of the rich guy is trying to figure out which art piece he wants and he just doesn't understand why people buy these things. And he's like, I just don't understand spending all this money on something I can do myself. And she was like, I get it.
00:15:58
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She was like, I completely get it. And she said that she once had an art teacher that said, told her, And I'm very, you know, I'm paraphrasing here, but pretty much don't buy art unless you have to have it.
00:16:09
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And that if it doesn't move you and it's not something you can live with, if it's not something that you can walk by every day, then you shouldn't invest in it. And I thought that was a great way to kick it off because she compared that to meet.
00:16:22
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Yes. I absolutely love that quote. I don't know exactly what it was, but she said, oh it's kind of like picking a meet or having a meet. And that... way that they ended that scene with that and then jumping into her doing everything at the apartment was such a good like parallel to give you an idea of the dynamic of that relationship and what she was dealing with at home.
00:16:47
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Right. like I was like, that's phenomenal. You don't get that kind of wordplay to give you like, and then kind of like for um not a foreshadow, But the wordplay where it kind of gives you almost a synopsis of what actually is happening.
00:17:04
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Right. I genuinely thought that that was great. And then it was heartbreaking to watch her go home and be doing all this stuff. And then that whole situation that happened with him, with the lemons, which was for him, super dumb, made no sense. It was very minuscule to him.
00:17:20
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But it wasn't minuscule to her. And while i was watching this movie, I was looking at her. was like, you don't you don't feel like that with me, baby. Like, we're good. Like, are you happy? And I do that even without the movies and without stuff. Sometimes we'll be like sitting down having a conversation and I'll ask her, like, are you like, how are we like, how are you with me?
00:17:40
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Like, how are you with us as a couple in this relationship, in this house, like all the things that we're doing?
Understanding and Respecting Love Languages
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And I am proud to say that she's happy. At least that's what she tells me. And hopefully she tells other people the same thing.
00:17:53
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But she genuinely, we had this conversation. I told her that when we watched the movie, I was like, because I can imagine that feeling, you know, being in a situation. And she agreed. She's been in situations like that.
00:18:04
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where you do the absolute most, go above and beyond. And then here comes the person that you're expecting to do the same thing for you, or at least show up in some kind of way that is helpful to you, beneficial.
00:18:16
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And they don't see, they lack, you know? And throughout the movie, we definitely found things that were very parallel to parts of our lives at different points.
00:18:29
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yeah And that was one of the things that I was like, you know what? Like I, I am, hopeful because I like to believe that I am very helpful. Like I know her love language is acts of service. I try my best to show up and give her whatever she is, whatever it is that she is needing.
00:18:45
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And then I proceed to like back up and be like, okay, but like, are you good? Like, was that good? Because I want the feedback to know that I'm doing well, not having to be told all the time, because I know she hates that.
00:18:55
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I do. Mm-hmm. She absolutely hates they Literally. She doesn't want to feel like she's taking care of a child and I'm asking a hundred of questions. Although there are times I do ask questions because if I don't know for sure, she does know how she wants it or what she wants.
00:19:12
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I can't figure it out on my own because it's her version of of a specific thing or a way, right? I'd be like, babe, you want it like what? How do you want it exactly? I just don't want to do it wrong. And then you're like. But then for that, I feel like.
00:19:27
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No, for me, it's like, OK, well, why ask Like, do you I guess that's that's the issue is the expectation. Right. it's like I expect and I understand that you shouldn't really have those expectations or maybe you should to to to a limit. Right.
00:19:43
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But there's certain things that it's like, OK, you should know what it is, like how to do something, right? Why is it, it's not that I want it my way. And I'm not talking about you specifically.
00:19:54
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I'm saying in general, it shouldn't have to be like, it's not, it's why you keep talking. You're talking, you're talking, I'm listening.
00:20:04
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No, you see her, right? She's, um For the people that can't see us, I am shaking my head or nodding and making LOL funnies because she very much so does like things a specific way.
00:20:15
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And I watch her do it a specific way. And to my point, but that's not always the case because you also switch things up. You'll want something a specific way because you did it that way. Now, if I go in thinking I did it the right way, then all of a sudden you're like, it better be.
00:20:30
Speaker
It's not giving what I would have done last week when I needed you, you know? Damn, but that's how you feel? It can't. going start this? I am. Okay, let's go there. No, it's not a bad thing.
00:20:42
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i want to make sure I do it the right way. I can do it my way and it's 100% perfect to me. You come in and like, why is it soap this year? You see what I'm saying? Because you had a vision in your mind.
00:20:53
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I can't read your mind. But I also don't want to always ask questions. When I do ask questions, you don't like it. But I explained to you that sometimes you want certain things and I want to make sure i do it right. If don't do it right, I hate feeling like I didn't do it right. It pisses me the fuck off because then I have to deal with you moving her things around, doing it differently, and then I feel like like it's a shit show. Where did I go wrong?
00:21:15
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You feel invalidated. Yes. Because I'm there often? No. But it is something that does happen. I mean, that's a situation. Can y'all bring the mic closer to y'all?
00:21:26
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Damn. Okay. Thank you. just want to adjust sooner than later. Okay. so How about now? Perfect. Thank you. Okay. All right. Awesome.
00:21:37
Speaker
Sorry. It's because I was also facing her, you know, in relationships. want you to look at your partner and feel like... Yeah, I get that. No, look at us. Look at my eyes, boo.
00:21:47
Speaker
Don't be a hater, bitch. First of all, why are you blocking my kiss? know Anyway. Hater. Right. But anyway, so... But I know, i hear I hear how that can be frustrating, right? If you feel like you're you're trying to do the above and beyond stuff and it's not hitting the mark.
00:22:02
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But I'm curious, Crystal, what did what did that scene bring up for you? So basically, for me, it's very much so like I've been there where I feel like I have been...
00:22:14
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I was Jen. I was her. well What was she? What was her name in the book? I was Brooke. I was Brooke. That was very much like I did everything.
Communication and Partnership in Relationships
00:22:23
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I i just needed someone to hear me and to be my partner and not that i'm
00:22:39
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how do I word it We're not that I'm, trying to be their, their parent, right? Like I'm not trying to parent you. I shouldn't have fucking teach you how to do these things.
00:22:50
Speaker
And you see me busting my ass day in and day out. And there's no help. You can't tell me you don't know how to clean a fucking toilet. You can't tell me you can't cook a pot of rice. Like you can't tell me you can't do these things. Like these are essential things. And you can't help with that. So for me, it was, it's, it was shitty. It was a shitty place in time. And i felt for Brooke. I was like, fuck, she's just trying to, she's just trying to feel validated and she needs help. And she just wants a partner. and She wants someone to show up, you know, and he didn't, he didn't necessarily hear her.
00:23:28
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He didn't know. Cause he's very much, he was very, couples could be very stubborn in their ways. Right. So when you're, there's a lack of communication,
00:23:38
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And also lack lack of communication. And when there's other people involved, when you start involving other people in your business, that starts to trickle into your relationship. So it's like, okay, I'm telling Fulano this about my my business. And then they're going to give you insight. And just like his friends and her friends or her, well that was her best friend or her sister.
00:24:00
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i I don't know anymore. Right? Like they- that was her best friend. Yeah, think best friend. Because then they never talked, they never showed the sister, they only mentioned the the sister. Yeah. But I feel like for me, it's just, you start letting people in and that's where you fuck up.
00:24:16
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Personally, i feel like you should, right, you can take people's advice with a grain of salt and then from there, go about it the best way that you think works for you and your partner, but there has to be communication.
00:24:30
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And that's where what they lacked. They lacked communication and they were very stubborn and they were there was ego involved and yes it was a lot.
00:24:41
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So it sucks to be in that situation, especially when you're stuck in a relationship where you're cohabitating, right? Where it's like you're with the other person and you have no choice but to be with that person because of financial struggle or...
00:24:58
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um or emotional attachment. you you just like, oh my God, so if they're not here, what am I gonna do? Right? You get so accustomed to this person, you've been with them for so long,
00:25:10
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So there was a lot in in that scene when she got home the in the very beginning and she's just like fucking over his shit where I felt it.
00:25:20
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And she didn't even start off that way. kind of just started off like she's scrambling, making sure everything gets done. She knows people are about to be there. He's getting off. She had no problem with him getting off. She's like, hey, you need to get ready. Like that's hot. Don't eat that. you ah yeah. You want to whatever.
00:25:34
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And then it proceeded to then be like, hey, um, Oh, crap. She didn't care that he was going to sit for a minute. It wasn't until she opened that bag and realized how he only got her three lemons. Yeah, but she was triggered.
00:25:45
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Yes. Instantly, it was like, I'm sorry, did I not say 12? Like, I'm not trying to fight. I just really want to know, like, I told you I needed 12. Right. And he's like, oh, well... Oh, well, I don't think I don't. And then he goes to argue and kind of like not so much argue in an argumentative fighting way, argumentative in a I don't get it kind of way. right larry does missing Yes.
00:26:09
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And all she wanted was 12 lemons. And my man's brought three. And she's like, I don't understand why you couldn't just do that. I asked for one thing. i made sure everything else was done. His clothes was probably laid out on that bed.
00:26:22
Speaker
And he just needed to show up, shower, put it on and have the lemons. And one thing she needed, he couldn't provide to her, which at that point, like you said, it triggered her because for her, it's like, this wasn't the first time. And she knows in her mind and heart that it's not going to be the last time.
00:26:40
Speaker
So it started off okay. She's like, hey, you need to get dressed. Everything's good. And then when she saw the lemons, that's where it really set her off because it even fully set her off initially either.
00:26:51
Speaker
It kind of just irked her. right So he started saying, oh no, like no one's going to be here. And this, that, the third, he want to kick his feet up, watch the game. He's doing everything but what she needed. ah He didn't help
Gender Dynamics and Household Responsibilities
00:27:02
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at all. Yeah.
00:27:03
Speaker
Now, what what did you guys think about that scene? Like, how did you take that in? um identified with Brooke in the sense that I feel that I have been the person that also has gone above and beyond.
00:27:17
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and I wouldn't say that the other person, like the person that I experienced this with was Gary. Like they weren't, they weren't that right. They weren't the ones that kicked their feet up and played video games or watched, you know, TV or did nothing. Right. Like it was very much that I felt very unappreciated. And I felt like all of my above and beyond was very much taken for granted.
00:27:40
Speaker
And so for me, when I saw Brooke have that moment, I was just like, wow, like it's not the flowers. It's not the dishes. It's not the lemons. It's not the ballet. It's all of it.
00:27:51
Speaker
Right. If it was just the lemons and you were helping me out or you were getting dressed and you were right, like it probably wouldn't have irked me if you were already in the shower. Damn, baby, you didn't get me. Yeah, sorry about that. You know, you need me to run out. I'll go. Right. Like that's it's a different approach. But when you're slacking across the board.
00:28:11
Speaker
It's like lighting a firework, right? You you really never know when that boom's going to hit. And I think that that's kind of what happened in that moment where it was, i I've had those outbursts. Like I have had those crash outs where it's like, yo, nothing I do like is is appreciated. It's just assumed that all of these things are meant to happen for you. And Like, what do you think? Fucking fairies just show up and take care of all this shit? Like, what the fuck? You know what I mean? So it was very much that. Like, I wouldn't say that the person I was with was lazy.
00:28:42
Speaker
They just were very unappreciative. Right. ah Him being, like, on the game and just not really showing up also... was relatable because of my last relationship.
00:28:57
Speaker
um And previous ones before that, specifically with men, because they really do want you to be their mother. Like leave laundry around, the games, the TV, like the dishes, they don't clean. Like it's just a whole different world. So I definitely related and...
00:29:18
Speaker
it was It was a little triggering, but I was, um you know, happy that that's over with. so her I was just going to mention that. And me and Audrey had the same note. We're going cheers right now. Cheers, baby up We have never cohabitated with a man. So i don't I don't even know what that is. And I'm very grateful. i think...
00:29:40
Speaker
Maybe movies like this inform my approach to not ever do shit like that. But I also grew up with a brother, right? And while my brother's very clean, i think my brother is like one of the cleaner guys that i've I've met in my lifetime. He was raised by women though. So, you know, he's he's an anomaly compared to most men that will just assume your mom and you're going to take care of everything in the household.
00:30:03
Speaker
Right. That's the same with me. I, if I'm being honest, I never cohabitated with women. a male myself. um I've dated men, but I've never lived with a man.
00:30:14
Speaker
So for me, and i can't i can't relate to that. It was a woman that i can that did that. Oh, no. Boo. Boo. The ghetto, for real. Right. First of all,
00:30:28
Speaker
For me, it's, yeah, no, it's, and my brother as well. He was raised by women. So I grew up with him and it was, you know, he's definitely not like that. To be clear, it's not me.
00:30:39
Speaker
It's not me, audience. It's not me. i don't even play video games. I don't even play video games. Crash, Metacute, Star Fox, Who? That's the only thing I did, I need for speed.
00:30:52
Speaker
Back when I was 11. Do you guys remember Crazy Taxi? Yes. Yes. I was telling Natalie. She was like, no, I don't. Oh my God. It was on Dreamcast, wasn't it?
00:31:03
Speaker
Yes. I think it was. Yes. It was phenomenal. I fucking love video game. She thought about it when he was playing GTA. She's like, is that crazy taxi? I said, no, babe, that's GTA. What are you talking about? crazy taxi. That shit phenomenal. He got bat.
00:31:19
Speaker
That's GTA. That's a crazy taxi. He was driving the taxi. because he robbed them. I know. I mean, at least he was playing good games, right? For the for the time. But right to to the point of this this scene, is it's her having a full crash out because there's a disconnect, right? Like you guys said, it comes down to communication.
00:31:39
Speaker
For Gary, he felt like she nags him. ah he can't Like he can't do anything right and she's just nagging him. And for her, she feels like she does everything and he's not supportive or appreciative. um And that's kind of where their their struggle lies.
00:31:55
Speaker
And there's this huge blowout and ultimately she tells him she's done and she calls him an inconsiderate prick and she storms off and then he leaves. She just wanted him to, you know, care is really what she tells her best friend. I just want to care.
00:32:11
Speaker
Gary goes over, and this goes to Crystal's point of including people, right? This was, this is exactly what I thought. I was like, yo, men are the worst. Like, they're worse than bitches for real these days because Gary goes over to the bar to talk to Johnny-o and Johnny's over here like, there's another guy, right? She's cheating on you. Yeah, gonna pull up. You need to go ahead and download this app.
00:32:38
Speaker
To be fair, there's always that one friend, whether it's a male or female. F-B-I-S.
00:32:44
Speaker
We'll go back to Johnny O later on because I absolutely love his character. And it also was a character that pissed me off because of his dynamic and the way he thought. He was cool. He's toxic.
00:32:56
Speaker
Yeah, don't like him. And then at another point, he was very mature in how he communicated to him at the end. And it's like, why did it take you so long to tell this man what he needed to hear? You know what mean? The like there's all lot yeah I have a i have ah a theory on that. I feel like men are very much crabs in a barrel.
00:33:14
Speaker
And that's where I'll leave that. But, you know, he goes over to the bar and and that doesn't work out too well in terms of the conversation because Johnny O takes it to the extreme and he's like, you just need to come in and move in with me. Stay with me.
00:33:27
Speaker
You can't go home. and Gary ends up going home and sleeps on the couch. And from that point forward, that indicates to Brooke that there's been a shift in their relationship because what she's expecting is that he's going to come home, apologize, and just start being nice to her again, and that they were just going to move on. And obviously that's not what happens. And so...
00:33:48
Speaker
It makes me, it's one of those situations where I imagine they have had these crash outs and blow outs before, right? That's the assumption that the audience is to have.
00:33:58
Speaker
And it made me think of these fights that happen in these situations where you say it's done and it's over one too many times before it's like the real deal.
Navigating Breakups and Emotional Toll
00:34:07
Speaker
And there's this like lapse in reality, right? Where like the other person kind of doesn't believe it or you don't believe it if you're the one that's being left. So, right.
00:34:16
Speaker
Just want to hear your thoughts on that. I've been in that situation where we've, we were on, off, on, off, and it becomes very toxic. But for me, that point when she had said what she said and she was like, oh, it's over.
00:34:34
Speaker
I'm done. Like, I'm over your fucking shit. And he, you can tell he wanted to come to her, but he didn't. he was like, i don't know, something, something was just like, no I'm not going to do it. And that's when he left and he went to go see it's like, why not? Sometimes I feel like people are too proud, proud. And it's like, why don't you like, you feel this way granted. And I had to learn that I had to, I've learned that because that's, you know, if that's something that I want, if I feel like, you know what? Yeah. We just argued, but
00:35:07
Speaker
I want to approach you and I want to talk to you about it. If you're ready, of course, like I want to talk about it. I feel like a lot of people don't do that. They're just so stuck and and they're so eat like egotistic. Is that the right?
00:35:20
Speaker
autistical Yeah. Egotistic. And I feel like a lot of people just don't want to react or act on their feelings. It's like, why not? If that's how you feel,
00:35:33
Speaker
Do it. couple things. ah Fear of rejection, number one, or the fact of somebody doubling down on what they just said. You're willing to fight, but they're not anymore. So for you to come up and say, hey,
00:35:45
Speaker
I hear you. Let's talk it out. And they're like, and I don't even know why you're here. That is brutal. Right. But you don't know that. But that's also very likely, depending on what the action that just, or the situation that just took place. For him, he wants to show up and be like, okay, he comes up to the door, but then he realized he's like, what's this going to She just told me she's done. I can't, I don't even know what I'm going to do. What can I bring or say that's going to fix this when she just screamed all this, called me a prick, said all this shit.
00:36:11
Speaker
I'm upset. We're both upset. What's that going to do right now? So for him, it's easier to walk away and go see his friend and have a drink than possibly cause more of a scene in the house where they're arguing even longer. i can see Some of those arguments that go through the night are very brutal. Been there.
00:36:27
Speaker
Been there, done that. And as a person, not even just as a man, but as a person, sometimes that can be very depleting energetically and emotionally and like mentally, all of that coming down on you.
00:36:38
Speaker
And it's the end of your night where a night should have been fun. And then it actually goes to shit into an argument to the point that your partner is telling you I'm done to then try to continue that. You don't know if it's going to be better or if it's goingnna make it worse.
00:36:49
Speaker
So thinking it's going to be worse, it's easier for people Because then they can take that and say, I'm going to walk away. And then when it come gets brought up later, it's like, well, I didn't know that because it was so this and that. Rather than saying, okay, I took the chance and hoped that it would be better.
00:37:03
Speaker
But that's not always the case either. Right. People double down, people get angry, people get more disrespectful, and there's no guarantee of the outcome of a situation. Just because you were vulnerable enough doesn't mean that they will also reciprocate that vulnerability in communicating with you when you want to do that.
00:37:19
Speaker
yeah Sometimes people can't meet at the same level. You might be there, but that next person is not at that level right now. And then when they're there, you're not there because now it took them too long or now you just passed it. yeah So there is there's so many levels and it fluctuates because you never know.
00:37:34
Speaker
And sometimes that's what's hard in relationships because people don't realize that I may be there and you may not, but maybe if we both try to find time to make it work, this could be better rather than me being the only one. And then later on, you finally are, but I'm over it or I don't want to argue with you or I'm pissed off at you.
00:37:51
Speaker
There is supposed to be some kind of common ground that people should meet, whether it's friendship, or relationships, whatever. a lot of people don't do that. yeah And that's where a lot of things can go awry very quickly rather than getting better.
00:38:02
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. You make good points. I think one of the the valuable points that her best friend provided also she were the three points, actually. And it was, at minimum, you need to let them know that it was not unnoticed, that it was unacceptable, that and that it wouldn't be tolerated, right, in terms of the the situation going forward.
00:38:26
Speaker
And I thought that was the gems that were, like, key key takeaways for this movie for for women or anybody, really, right? It's really a reminder to establish boundaries. And I was like, this is not okay, and this needs to be addressed, and we need to be able to find a way forward that's more conducive to a healthy relationship because this shit ain't it.
00:38:45
Speaker
Right, huh?
00:38:58
Speaker
Before we get to game night, there's the whole situation at the bowling alley and they vote they vote Gary off of the team. But somehow all these people end up right back in the room for game night. And I was just like, yo, these friends are so funny because that's really the shit that that's really what happens between friend groups. It's like, well, that's between y'all. Like, right we showed up to play Pictionary.
00:39:20
Speaker
Exactly. We're still all friends. I want to be here for this game night. God damn it. We got to sit here. Right. We already planned this shit. We're here. We're going to see it through.
Humor's Role in Relationship Breakdown
00:39:31
Speaker
and But he was, yeah Gary was so petty and I thought that was like the comic relief of the moment. It was, it was well-timed. It was like things got so serious and they were able to break things up quickly with the bowling alley scene. And then they doubled down on that humor during the the game night scene. And I just thought it so valuable to the rom-com.
00:39:52
Speaker
I agree. that That whole scene with him going to the bathroom to say, hey, there's nothing in the kitchen. Like, what is everybody going eat? People going be here. and she's like, well, you're grown. Figure it out. The cheese slices.
00:40:05
Speaker
Yeah, the Kraft cheese.
00:40:11
Speaker
a man thing that my woman usually participates in does all the work and I don't know what the hell she does or how she does it. I just show up and I'm happy to eat and drink. And the pettiness that came with her best friend and her husband being there and the chips and him saying, those are my chips. Don't eat my chips. Don't eat my ruffles. Thank you.
00:40:29
Speaker
That and then everyone trying to get just a clean cup and him having just nonsense in all these random places and crevices was just... Why did they stay? I'm not sure. The loyalty was real.
00:40:41
Speaker
right got those are Those are good friends. I would have done a freaking about face. I would have walked into the kitchen and like, and you know what? Nope. Because how dare you invite people over and say, yeah, we're going still host this game night and your place looks the way that it does.
00:40:58
Speaker
And can only imagine the smell, you know what I mean? But the whole scene was fantastic. I think Jason Bateman playing ah the wriggler, wriggler man or whatever he played.
00:41:11
Speaker
he He was great. I liked the fact that he was like, you know what? They can stay. like And he winks. He does that in every movie. The little wink. I love him. I love him.
00:41:21
Speaker
That's like his signature wink. Every movie I've ever seen that man in, he does the same. The little nod and the wink. I got you. was fantastic. Playing like the neutral friend that was like, um we're not doing that. We're all adults. Let's just kind of hang out.
00:41:36
Speaker
Up until that point where he had to let them know like, You guys were freaking psychotic. And I don't think you guys should cohabitate anymore. Because that whole scene of them arguing, it could have been a very mellow game, right? He could have been petty to her best friend and the husband and little ha-hahs, right?
00:41:52
Speaker
But the way that it went down, him being so pissed. About the shoe and the sock. He said, I said shoe. Everybody said shoe. It was not a shoe. You didn't do anything different.
00:42:04
Speaker
You just drew a big shoe and little shoe.
00:42:08
Speaker
First of all, charades, like charades in general, anything that is like games like that. I can also be that person. Okay. don't, we can be in the happiest of terms.
00:42:20
Speaker
when we went to, where were we?
00:42:23
Speaker
where Where were we? I couldn't tell you. I don't know what you're talking about. That we were playing with Jessie and them. What game? In the Poconos. In the Poconos. This one got so pissed at me. I was flying.
00:42:35
Speaker
This one's like, I don't know what the hell I was saying. She's like, you're not good at this game, babe. Like, let's get her. Somebody switch teeth. Yo, she was coming from my... No, but we take that shit seriously. What you mean? Thank you.
00:42:47
Speaker
I'm Gary because... Like, because you're a reflection of me. Like, for real, show up. And first of all, when he was screaming my mouth, we may have been broken up in that movie. for They were broken up, but we were together.
00:43:00
Speaker
So we get it together lock in. Lock in. Exactly that. Exactly that. Act like you've been here before. There you go. The fuck? I thought that was a valid crash out, though, because I definitely would see myself crashing out this way.
00:43:14
Speaker
i i used to play Taboo in California a lot. And so if you want to like ruin relationships, that's the game to introduce to the squad. And Mikey actually threw the game of taboo out the third story window one evening because he got so upset that Ty had no idea what he was trying to get at.
00:43:35
Speaker
You ever seen that video where they're playing the Ellen DeGeneres game heads up? And then they're going through like the countries or whatever. And then she's like, we, we, you know, they're like right above us. The country, where she's like, Spain?
00:43:49
Speaker
Or she said some dumb shit. And she's like, no, bitch, we, we.
00:43:56
Speaker
I honestly have never felt something to my core the way that I felt that. And that's how Gary felt. Because again, mind melds. How do you not, how, do better. Like try.
00:44:07
Speaker
She tried her best. She was doing this. She drew a big sock and a little sock that looked like a big
Post-Breakup Challenges and Petty Behaviors
00:44:12
Speaker
shoe and a little shoe. That's not the same. And then she kept circling and pointing at it like, Right.
00:44:18
Speaker
First of all, get out of the fucking, get out of the house. Get out of the apartment. would have been tight, yeah. You're not. I would have also crashed out. Game over. Right, get, everybody get the fuck out. um Game night's canceled, motherfuckers. Get out of my place. Yo. Yo.
00:44:33
Speaker
Nah, but that's real shit.
00:44:38
Speaker
The realtor, you know, you guys mentioned, right? He sits down, he tells them, you guys are fucking insane. It's time for y'all to go ahead and and find new places to live. And Gary comes out and says that she should move out. Not only should she move out, but she should pay compensation for his labor.
00:44:53
Speaker
I literally laughed. The way I fucking... Yo, that shit killed me. Like, killed me. How dare you fix your mouth to say that shit? Like, what?
00:45:09
Speaker
that Her argument was that she made it a home, that it was um like a cave, right? And I thought that this was such an interesting conversation because this is really like... an unspoken conversation that happens between couples, right? Where if we're breaking up, then it's like, but I i painted this room and i but I bought that furniture and that table's mine. And I bought that TV and, you know, those, those spoons, i those are my spoons, right? My mom bought those spoons, right?
00:45:41
Speaker
I'm taking them. Petty. Wow. Patty at its finest. Literally. No, he he was very serious about it. And for me, I thought that that was a little, not a little, it was quite selfish and childish on his part.
00:45:58
Speaker
Because even when he was talking to his friend about the condo, like in the earlier, after they fought, and he's like, it's in both of our names. So then it gets to this point that then you look at at her and say, hey, yeah, you should pay me so that you could leave.
00:46:13
Speaker
First of all, the way you would a pan upside your head like i was in a Madea movie is insane. Because... i I'm sorry. Who signed it with you? Because I didn't think there was a ghost that showed up with you. that I don't think they co-signed. I think it was me.
00:46:24
Speaker
And if i if if we're going to this for real, pull up the Madea movie. I'm cutting everything in half. And you can have your half. yeah Because... It's not wrong. Right. She's not wrong in the sense that she did make it a home.
00:46:36
Speaker
They shared it together. so him thinking that it was just about his own needs and being in a way disrespectful, because that's exactly what I think that was, was very disrespectful to look at your partner of however long and say, Hey, we bought this place together because we thought we'd be here forever. Like, you know, or this is our first home and blah, blah, blah.
00:46:54
Speaker
And then look at her. Cause they're arguing and fighting, going through this shit to say, Hey, you pay me, but you got to get the hell out. He was being a dick. Yeah, he was. My favorite part had to be,
00:47:05
Speaker
oh when she came out put ass naked. I was just going to say real quick. I was just going to say the there was a transition from that moment where it becomes clear that they need to leave each other and that not only do they need to leave each other, but they need't get rid of this condo.
00:47:21
Speaker
And in the meantime, they need to stay together because neither one of them wants to budge. So now they start playing games. And you just mentioned, right, that one of the best games that they played was her coming out butt ass naked. And I just thought that that was such a flex.
00:47:36
Speaker
And I just want to hear more about where you were where you were about to go with it. ah So for me, this plays back to what I said with taking advice from people. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.
00:47:50
Speaker
Right. you guys You got, you gotta, gotta figure it out, but sometimes it works. And she got that advice from her boss, right? for both Like I got ah a person, ah here you go, pull them and show them.
00:48:02
Speaker
That's it. That's what she did. And you know, he played it off real cool. Like, I see you. and don't care. he didn't say anything. He watched them. But she knew. He was looking real hard. Yes. That little smile that she did when she when the camera went on her. was like, yeah, bitch, you get that. Her took us was moving. She said, and I was switched, switched.
00:48:24
Speaker
I like, fuck yeah. I love that. I've never been in a in that place, I think, where thank god I had to you know, I guess, get to that point where it's like, okay, I'm going to show you.
00:48:37
Speaker
and think I would have, maybe, but I never got to that place. so think the closest I was being... Were you showing them what they're missing? Yeah, for me, it was in other ways. It it wasn't me being butt-ass naked.
00:48:49
Speaker
It was, I guess, me... I can give an example of one. Go ahead. She was being petty to me on my birthday, by the way. made My B-Day. We had gone out and I don't know, we we got back and I forget what it was that happened, to be honest with you. Cut.
00:49:06
Speaker
Cut. Cut it out. So, she was drinking Actually, we were both drinking, but I had stopped and she kept, she was getting a little bit wine drunk and she's in the mirror. She's got music playing. I think we had like a, ah like ah a speaker or like, i don't know. Something was playing, but she had the TV, you put YouTube and she has some music playing and she's in the mirror like this.
00:49:26
Speaker
one about You know, one of them little thin, thin things that was showing practically the whole booty. Right. And I was like, I showered, I got into bed and she's just over there in the living room.
00:49:41
Speaker
I guess. Yo, I have videos because may not be speaking, but you are beautiful and I love you, but but I'm not going to let you know i'm recording you. Like I have videos of her like dancing by herself. And that was like, I feel like as close to that as I can see for something that's ever happened, at least between me and you, where you're like, I'm still going to have a good time. And I don't care. It was very much like, I'm going to have a good time. It wasn't like, oh, this is what you got. Like it was, I'm having a good time regardless.
00:50:08
Speaker
Now watch me. ah Right. Y'all are something else. So I was right. I had a good time. Y'all are something else. I had a good time. Yeah, you did.
00:50:20
Speaker
oh I don't want you to fight That was fun. But have you guys ever felt like, I don't know, where you had to show up or show out to make the other person, yeah, to do some shit, to make the other person feel like, listen, this is what you got, like remind them in a sense, I guess.
00:50:40
Speaker
I've never walked out into the middle of the room naked to grab a Pepsi. i can't identify with that. That was sexy though. No, I don't. Honestly, no. i don't.
Technology and Social Media's Impact on Relationships
00:50:52
Speaker
I feel like, and I've said this in previous episodes, like when I when i get to a point where I realized relationships were just like really not going to work and like, right, like reaching this point of constant crash outs,
00:51:05
Speaker
i like at the level of fucks that I have are very slim. So no, like i might I might dress and get a haircut or like maybe spray a little extra cologne, like, but I'm not strutting, right? Like I'm not on peacock mode. I'm not outside. I'm not putting snaps and Instagrams up showing, you know, that I'm having a great time. Like I never did those type of things. I understand why people do, but I just, i just never cared enough by the time the relationship broke and severed, you know?
00:51:34
Speaker
cause that was it. That's that. i I did TikTok at one point, but that was also me being a dumbass and almost childish because of the heartbreak I was dealing with that I was just like posting stuff. Not even like I posted all the time or anything. It's just like random little tidbits of stuff. like And it never lasted because I would always... i don't You see my TikTok. i don't have anything on there.
00:51:56
Speaker
But like when I did post, it was kind of like me being... acting like I was okay. Me being an ass, like, oh, everything's fine. And the whole time I'm like depleting emotionally and medically because of that person doing it to me. But I'm trying to act like, no, you didn't do that to me. I'm perfectly fine. I'm a bad bitch and I'm i'm fine. i'm happy.
00:52:13
Speaker
And whole time I'm actually like dwindling emotionally and like physically. normal baby. I'm so sorry. I know. One, two, three.
00:52:26
Speaker
the brother takes Gary to the club. And one of the things that he mentions in this scene is he's talking about the different things, the different levels of technology for the time, which is not, not that you're saying like 20 years ago, I'm like, wow, that's kind of,
00:52:42
Speaker
We've been doing this for a little bit because he mentions text messaging. He he mentions emails and he mentions Tebow. Now, Tebow, we don't do. um But he also goes goes on to say, ah this is why everybody emails now, because nobody wants to connect.
00:52:58
Speaker
They just want results. hey And he's like, everybody wants everything faster. And I was just like, yo, that's crazy because... Technology has really changed the way in which we or become peacocks, right? Like like you said, i I set up a TikTok to make it seem like I'm living my best life, but in reality, I'm like suffering, right? And it's just it was just a note, right, that um that's coming to mind now in terms of how technology has aided in that or hurt, you know, the processes of of us being able to move on.
00:53:31
Speaker
Yeah. Go ahead, bitch. Think about the brother because she hates that man. oh no i just didn't me i didn't like the brother i didn't like the way that he approached the women it was very disturbing to watch it was very it was it was cringe right it was i was like he had dexter vibes and she mentions it that's one of my favorite scenes of the movie when um she says something was just like i don't don't say nothing about like, oh, you want to mention family members? He said, yeah.
00:54:00
Speaker
about family, it's like, your sister? She's like, my sister's been through a lot. He's like, yeah, oh, dick. And it's just like, that whole scene, like her mentioning his brother being so garbage. And then him also rebuttaling with, oh, your sister is one, youre like the my brothers want to talk about when your sister has done the whole offensive line of this baseball, football team, whatever, like a whole bunch of shit. I'm just like, that was the timing in which that they went through that whole thing was perfection to me.
00:54:27
Speaker
And it reminds me of like scenes in like Friends with Jennifer with when they would say shit to each other. And it's like perfect timing. Like, and Vince Vaughn provides that in anything that he actually is in. But I felt that that was perfect. That was one of my favorite scenes of the movie. He pissed me off with how he acted with grabbing her shit and like kicking her out and throwing it to the floor and shit because he was annoyed that that's his space.
00:54:49
Speaker
But that whole scene is actually one of my favorite scenes because it's between that and like the final scene. they are my favorite scenes. And I thought it was hilarious to like watch how they interacted with each other because they're, he's annoyed because his brother was being an asshole and low key, he feels how he feels about her.
00:55:06
Speaker
And then she's just having a relaxing moment, just like quiet to herself. And she didn't think it would be a big deal. And then it turns into this whole yet again, blow up. Right. So. Yeah.
00:55:17
Speaker
Yeah. the The ending is... they they didn't They had a really good spin on the ending. you know i mentioned they played a lot of games with each other. We saw Brooke go on a series of dates. We saw Gary host strip poker nights and get wasted with his friends or his brothers. And then we get to a point where...
00:55:39
Speaker
Brooke is realizing that she's not getting the results that she wants. So she then invites him to a concert. She says, I know what I need to do. So she invites him to this concert. She makes it seem like, you know, it's it's an open invitation. If you want to come, no big deal. But also like, if you don't let me know so I can give it to somebody else.
00:55:59
Speaker
He accepts, so to say, right? with Because I would say he accepts. He doesn't decline, right? He doesn't decline the invitation. She says, i'm leave your ticket at will call. It's at the room.
00:56:10
Speaker
But he said, yeah. Yeah, he did. did see yeah he he was like yeah He was like, he asked her a series of questions in a sense of like, oh, like how many tickets you have? How much? He said, how much? What do you want for them? And then she's like, oh, well, I'm going. Like, I just had, I only bought two tickets. And he's like, okay, yeah, that's fine.
00:56:27
Speaker
And then she tells him where it's at. And he's like, okay, cool. Thank you. Like, yeah, I'll be there. Got it. Okay. Sorry, I just got confused.
Emotional Depth of Relationship Endings
00:56:34
Speaker
My bad. But yeah, so he we move on to this concert and Gary's a no-show.
00:56:39
Speaker
And you could tell that she had hope in him showing up because she's kind of like lit up when she's talking to the ticket agent about her leaving these tickets for him to pick up. And she describes him and she's glowing when she does so. And she gets there and she's at her seat and she's excited.
00:56:54
Speaker
Burs him a beer. Right. She orders him a beer. And she's hopeful that they can rekindle their relationship this event. $8 for two beers. Let's just put that out there.
00:57:05
Speaker
Right. okay i was like, let me get that. 20 years ago. Let me get 14 of them. ah sorry But Brooke is stood up ultimately by Gary and he spent his time, as he says, with Johnny. Right. He got caught up with Johnny. Oh, she's in tears when he comes to explain the reason why he didn't go.
00:57:29
Speaker
In his mind, it wasn't a big deal for her. Obviously, it's a crushing blow so her reality. And i think this is the moment where she realizes i'm done.
00:57:40
Speaker
That's it. It's not so much that she's done. She realizes that there is no chance for them to fix what had gone wrong because for her, there was a chance he didn't show up. And she realizes that he wasn't into it anymore because you if he was, he would have shown up for her the way he probably would have shown up at another point if they were okay.
00:57:59
Speaker
Right. So wouldn't that be that she feels like, okay, like, no, I'm done. That he's done. She probably at that point is when after she realizes that he's not showing up, that he's done. And then she's like, I also have to be done. If I keep doing this to myself, I'm going to only get more hurt.
00:58:15
Speaker
So it didn't start off her being done. She had to realize that he was done to then realize I have to be done. If I am not done, this going to probably kill me. right It's going to break me in places and in ways that I don't know how long I'll be before I recover. like that's It's brutal to spend that time with someone, love them, and then think, okay, we went through all this shit, but like we love each other, so maybe we can make this work.
00:58:36
Speaker
but And then her to extend that olive branch and then for him to say that he's taking it and accepting that, even if it's a small gesture. For her, it was big. It was big enough for her to put herself out there. yeah And then for him to accept and then in a way...
00:58:52
Speaker
shit on her and that um that request that she gave him that he accepted it's heartbreaking because for her she wanted to try and he didn't care to because he was afraid again of rejection but instead of showing up and seeing what would come of it he stayed with his friend and then he was like damn I kind of fucked up goes to her to apologize and she just can't anymore Now she's done. now the heartbreak has set into the point that she's like, I can't do this anymore. You, I put myself out there and you did not reciprocate that or provide what I needed or what I hoped because you made it seem like you were okay.
00:59:25
Speaker
Right. That was the part of the movie that broke broke me. It broke my heart. I said, oh my God, it's over. That's at that point is when you knew, okay, they're done. Yeah. had a little hope for them.
00:59:37
Speaker
She was, you know, crying, bawling her eyes out. She didn't even want to look at him when you're at that point where you just like, but please just like get away from me. Like, I just can't, you can just hear it in her voice. She's just like, just get away from me. I just don't want to, I don't want to do this. I don't even want to see you right now.
00:59:54
Speaker
And then when she turns around and you see her face and she just looks like she's been, you know, crying her eyes out. It's just so sad. And then his face to say, oh shit, I didn't realize how important it was, how this would have ah affected her. And he's like, I didn't know it was that important, but that's the point he He didn't know. he For him, he didn't know.
01:00:16
Speaker
And for her, it's like, well, you should have known. was going to say, because he argued that she was going out on dates with all these guys, and then all of a sudden you dropped these tickets, and it was like, what am I supposed to do with this? Right. Which is valid. I get that too.
01:00:29
Speaker
Yeah. Both sides. It's valid on both sides. But goes back to the... when people are ready, right? It's the mismatch of when people are ready to reconcile.
01:00:41
Speaker
She pushed it, right? Where immediately he might've been more willing and susceptible to try to fix things, but she started going on dates. And then when, and she was going on dates because this was her way of coping with the situation.
01:00:54
Speaker
and it was pretty much, let me strut and be a peacock and show him what he's missing in hopes that he will show up better. And then- When that failed, then it was, okay, well now I'm ready to fix things.
01:01:05
Speaker
And by then this man is confused and he's like, I thought you were moving on, right? Like yeah um up until this point, you haven't given me indication for me to think that you were hoping that this moment was going to spark things. But I also agree that if we've invested all these years, that me inviting you, which you see in the scene, this event,
01:01:27
Speaker
was the olive branch. And that was something that was between us. Like, yeah, I could ask anybody to come, but I want you to come. This was this was for us, right? like Yeah, she's like, I got this for me and you, which is why yeah I'm still going and I want you to also come.
01:01:41
Speaker
I don't want invite nobody else. that um That whole scene watching her wait for him and then go out to see if maybe he was out there. Then going back in to realizing, yeah, he's really not coming to going home.
01:01:55
Speaker
And then him finally showing up and seeing that it also broke me and broke my heart in a sense. Now more than obviously than it did back then, because as a kid, what the hell do I know about a heartbreak like that?
01:02:07
Speaker
But as an adult who has been through numerous heartbreaks herself, it's, it's something I can relate to. It made me so sad to watch her cry like that. Cause I've, I've cried like that over people that generally did not deserve it.
01:02:20
Speaker
Right. That didn't deserve the levels that I provided to them that came from me, you know? So seeing her cry like that, it made me really sad to think that there were times in my life that i was in those situations and people did not see it.
01:02:34
Speaker
Yeah. So they didn't see it until either I got angry and cried and like I i wanted to flip out. It wasn't until the end, until I was over that ledge that then all of a sudden they're like, but I don't understand. Yeah.
01:02:45
Speaker
I can only communicate so much with the person that's not going to meet me where I'm at. And that's where a lot of relationships also are lacking. People are, on they are on different levels of communication.
01:02:55
Speaker
So if you're unable to match up with the person and then grow from there, you're always going to be out there for levels. And there's never going to be a way that you can communicate that's going to be beneficial to the relationship.
01:03:06
Speaker
And I've been in those predicaments and in those situations where it feels like I'm saying all the things that I can to try to let you see and in on how I feel due to what it is that is lacking or what it is that you're doing.
01:03:17
Speaker
And if you're not going to give me the same thing that you're expecting from me in return in the sense of growth and change, What is this going to do? So seeing her cry like that, I was just like, God, damn, I've been there, girl. Yeah. Oh, and and it it sucks that you have to get to that point to finally let people go because it's such a heart-wrenching thing. It's one of those scars that don't just heal. They don't just go away. Like it, it just bubbles over in a way because you still, it takes a long time to get through stuff like that. yeah And yeah,
01:03:47
Speaker
With my relationship with Chris, she's watched me from the beginning of our relationship to now and seen how in the beginning I was in a really, a completely different place than I am now. Because when we first met, I had been out of relationship for a little bit, but it was really jacked up relationship.
01:04:02
Speaker
I was heartbroken. Like I was completely distraught emotionally and mentally that it's taken so many building blocks ah for myself to get to where I'm at and seeing her from that scene and realizing, Hey, I'm done. I can't do this. I tried. And I know I fucked up with my part, but I can't anymore. Like now I'm at this place where like there, I have to pick myself up because this is done. So then see her later at the end of the movie and seeing like,
01:04:30
Speaker
the growth that you can tell that she's like happy. She's moving about in life in her way and being able to see him and be happy to see him and not be so angry and so devastated that it's just like, good for you. I'm good. Like, I would love to see you again. Like, let's just like, they realized that they're, that love is not going anywhere. They love each other because that's the real throughout the entire movie. They loved each other.
01:04:51
Speaker
They just did not know how to show up for each other the way that each of them needed and show up appropriately for it to not get to where it ended. And even if it did get to that point of them ending, they could have probably fixed it if they did it differently. There's so many paths people don't take because they take the shorter path thinking that the way that they think that person will think the same way and be like, you know what?
01:05:11
Speaker
You're right. That's not real life. And i feel like sometimes people don't always grasp that concept of I can't expect him or her to see it the way that I do and for them to do what I want them to do. Right. Yeah.
01:05:27
Speaker
Yeah. I definitely, i identified that I understood Brooke in her breakdown and her meltdown. And, you know, I think all of us here in this space have had these nights where we're devastated over, um,
01:05:43
Speaker
a disappointment is really what it comes down to, right? And I i highlight the disappointment part because a lot of that is shared disappointment with ourselves. A lot of the times, by the time you get to the point where you've tapped out, you are surrendering to the fact that you have given so much energy and time and effort, right? And so like, yeah, you're disappointed that they didn't receive it, but you're disappointed in yourself for going so hard, right? Like to get there.
01:06:09
Speaker
yeah ah and Stop, stop. But you what I'm saying? Like, you go... you go you I want to be respectful, right? I think at the end of the everybody is somebody, somebody, right? So who wasn't for me it' it's okay. yeah They're from somebody else. Right. And I hope that every single one of my exes has found their somebody.
01:06:33
Speaker
I hope that for everybody that's, that's out there. And if you haven't, I'm going to you good vibes and positive energy that one day you do, because it's a beautiful thing to have your person and your partner and experience love For real, for real.
01:06:47
Speaker
ah With that said, I want to go back self-love, right? And that disappointment that you feel when you understand that the life that you have lived up until this point where you were sharing and sometimes sacrificing your self-love for somebody else that isn't worthy and doesn't deserve it, that real that moment of realization and disappointment that you feel for yourself.
01:07:10
Speaker
Biggest heartbreak. Yeah. that's really where the heartbreak sits in. And I felt like that's really where she reached it. Like she, yeah, she invited him to this concert he didn't show up. But for her, it was more so like, damn, I really went and bought these concert tickets and he didn't show up.
01:07:27
Speaker
Right? Like it was, it was as simple as that where again, her ego came into play and that hurt her as well. Where, the rejection piece comes in. But I also felt like it was an opportunity, which we see in the movie, for Gary, Vince Vaughn's character, to reflect. And we see that, right? She tells him, you are who you are.
01:07:50
Speaker
Right. Like when she finally surrenders to the fact that this is over, she tells him you are who you are. Things it doesn't matter what we do. Things are never going to be great between us because you are who you are.
01:08:02
Speaker
And then that is doubled down on when he goes and he speaks to Johnny O. And Johnny O is like, bro, everyone knows who you are and what you do. If you don't want to do something, you're not going to do it.
01:08:14
Speaker
Right. you're Pretty much telling him you're a self-serving person. You're very selfish. And everybody knows that about you. yeah And that allowed him to be retrospective and he was able to kind of like show up to work and he got his things put together at work because he was in hot water with his brother for not having the log books put together. And so he presents that to his brother. He apologizes to a brother his brother and he's now realizing a little too late all of his shortcomings across all of his relationships because usually the one thing that you do that's ruining your romantic relationship is also affecting your other relationships. It's not just in one place. It reflects in other places.
01:08:49
Speaker
so she that with interesting I love that they pointed that out in the movie and that they painted that for us. Yeah. I appreciate the fact that um even after everything and seeing that raw emotion from her, that he, he put himself out there again, a little too little too late, right? He didn't show up when he, when she needed him to, or didn't show up in a way that could have benefited them in their relationship, but him putting himself out there to say, Hey,
01:09:15
Speaker
you've got this random guy here, but like, I do want to talk to you like, and tell you how I feel. And after he told her how he felt, it was kind of like, okay, I put myself out there. I'm not mad at how this relationship went. It went to shit for a little bit there, but we still came to this place of realizing we love each other, but this is just done.
01:09:32
Speaker
i said my piece. We're not angry at each other anymore. We're not fighting the way we were for these last few weeks. That has been completely ridiculous. and Yeah. It's been completely out of pocket. Right.
01:09:44
Speaker
I appreciated the fact that they let him kind of have that moment of retro retrospect of saying, hey, this is what went wrong. This is what I could have done. And I can be sorry. I do love you. i want to be with you. But like her being able to say, i can't no more because she did finally reach that point.
01:10:00
Speaker
Right. I understood both of their perspectives because sometimes in your mind, you're thinking you're doing good. Sometimes you're like, you're fine. it's no big deal. Right. You're you think you're hearing.
01:10:10
Speaker
You're not really comprehending people and the things that they're telling you, though. For him, he wasn't comprehending it the way she needed him to. He was still very narrowmind and ah very narrow-minded and selfish in a lot of ways that she was hoping he'd grow out of.
01:10:24
Speaker
And sometimes people want... for you to grow in ways that you can't grow because they're not there. Some people don't want to look in the mirror. You you can't put up a mirror to somebody who's not ready ready to see that reflection. That's going look back at them.
01:10:38
Speaker
And that's what a lot of people don't realize. Friendships, relationships, whatever parents with their kids, you're going to tell your mother, your father, Hey, this is who you are. And they're not going to see it until that's all they can see because that's all they know it is. Right.
01:10:52
Speaker
right so So then in a relationship or in a friendship, if that's the case, do you do you meet them halfway? Like, d with the understanding of, okay, you are this person, but with of course with them, with the caveat of them knowing i need to work on it, i the I can understand that I'm not, you know,
01:11:17
Speaker
But that's the point. There's people that won't do that part. Right. You can tell them and they're going to be like no, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong. But then if you have a person and people that are willing to look at you and say, you know what, I can see where you're coming from and I can apologize. And all I can do is tell you, hey, I'm going to do my part to show up, be better and just.
01:11:36
Speaker
be patient with me rather than saying, no, you're wrong. And then being exactly what the person is trying to to show you that you are. Yeah. And he didn't see who he was until the end. It wasn't until that moment. It wasn't until Johnny. It wasn't until after all that stuff with his brother telling him, Hey,
01:11:52
Speaker
What do you do? that the really Yeah. Everything had to hit him all at once, like a ton of bricks. And a lot of people tend to be like that. yeah Yeah. As a human race, we tend to be so caught up on our own shit.
01:12:03
Speaker
It's kind of like kids when they're in, when they're living in with their parents and they're in school and stuff, everything's about their small world. Their world is so massive, but it's just school. It's just school and home.
01:12:13
Speaker
They don't realize that there's such a big world out there and we get selfish. And sometimes people, even as you get older, we are selfish. Yeah. You know, that's we're humans that we can't even help that.
01:12:24
Speaker
So I feel like for him, he was selfish. But if you're going to have a friend, a partner, whoever look at you and say, hey, I hear you. I'm willing to change. There's also grace that comes with that. It can't be a hey, I told you last night and you still did the same thing or you haven't changed. And it's like it takes time.
01:12:41
Speaker
It takes grace. It takes the vulnerability to accept that person to see that, hey, they're going to fuck up in the next couple of weeks. But that doesn't mean that they haven't shown me that they're trying or that they won't continue to show me that they're trying. Right. So meet them where they're at and then see if they're willing to meet you where you're at or get past that point.
01:13:00
Speaker
and be better so where was Brooke she was over it she was over because she kept waiting for him to meet her where she needed him to be but he wasn't ready to be where she needed him and she saw that that wasn't gonna happen exactly why she was like yeah I'm taking myself out of this situation so the love again the love was still there you can see it through the whole movie the love was there yeah there's just a lacking of communication comprehension and just the a manner of showing up for someone the way that they need you to and vice versa. Because
Active Listening and Communication
01:13:30
Speaker
yes, he wanted chill time and relaxing. We all want that.
01:13:33
Speaker
But she also needed a man and her man to show up and be like, hey, I know I'm tired, but I got you. Let's do this. cause Get through this night. Let's have a good time. And then I can relax. Active listening. I feel like that was what was needed because she was literally telling him what she needed and he heard her, but he didn't.
01:13:51
Speaker
Didn't really it. He heard her on deaf ears though. Yeah. It's on his mindset and the way he heard it. He wasn't hearing it the way it was being projected to him from her. Right. And I feel like that happens sometimes.
01:14:03
Speaker
Yeah. Um... For me, I can speak on that. I feel like sometimes I just need to hear it in another another form or another way because sometimes I won't get it right off rip. It's like, I guess because of my own, I'm like, h my my own thought process. I'm like, i don't understand it. Like, why do you feel that way or why? Because I necessarily wouldn't feel that way. So you if someone was to redirect it and and phrase it another way
01:14:34
Speaker
majority the time I can, I'm like, okay, well now I can see it. i can see it that way. Yeah. And I can understand it. yeah Yeah. But i can see that. That's why I understood his point and hers because he saw her break down. He finally realized you've been playing all these games, but you're hurt.
01:14:51
Speaker
Yeah. I'm confused. Right. She's playing all these games to get him to see her and now she's hurt. So it's like everyone gets hurt and there's all this confusion. There's no understanding because she didn't communicate it appropriately to say, Hey,
01:15:04
Speaker
i I went on these dates. You're right. Like, listen, like I'm doing this to piss you off. Like, can we try to figure out a solution here? But then he was also doubling down. All they did was double down on the fuckery rather than saying, hey, let's have a conversation because we're in our 30s. We're not kids.
01:15:19
Speaker
Yeah.
01:15:36
Speaker
I think that brings us to the scene in the empty condo on move out day where, you know, she's she's pointing to the fact that there could have been a pool table in this area if it wasn't for the coffee table and oversized couch that he ended up sleeping on at the end of the relationship. But the one quote that stuck out was I would have done a thousand things differently.
01:15:58
Speaker
And I think to your point, Audrey, it spoke to their love, right? Like clearly we love each other, but we are just missing each other. And I had missteps and you had missteps and it's just not our time.
01:16:10
Speaker
And sometimes, right, that realization takes a long time to get to and it can be very painful and can be very toxic. But I'm glad that that's the message that they left off on before you fast forward to the scene where,
01:16:23
Speaker
We close out the movie. Gary is doing boat tours. They have expanded the business. He's very happy. He's lost weight. He's very charismatic. You can tell he's in his prime and he's doing what he loves to do. yeah And then we he was looking good. Yeah, he was on it. right Go ahead. Go ahead, Gary.
01:16:42
Speaker
Go ahead, Gary. He was. um But you could tell that he was living his best life. He was happy. And then you see Brooke, who is also happy. And she's now, it's two seasons after the fact of seeing Gary doing boat tours. So some time has clearly passed.
01:16:59
Speaker
She's back from her trips around the world. whether that was Rome or otherwise, we know that she was traveling and they bump each other bump into each other on the street, which is if you live in a big city, not uncommon, right? Like you're going to run into people, especially if you frequent the same areas.
01:17:15
Speaker
And so I thought that was very realistic. And I thought that it was a great way to give us closure, not only for that for them too, but also for the audience that has been watching this very chaotic journey as they broke up. So i thought it was great. I think the message that that I took away from that was They were happier without each other.
01:17:35
Speaker
They recognized that, they respected that. And because they were able to arrive to that point, they were able to then still share, right, the sparks or chemistry that were naturally there without having to focus on all the reasons why I don't like you right now. So i just thought that was special.
01:17:54
Speaker
That was one of those scenes, like an ending, that you don't always get in movies or in TV shows. So many things end so abruptly and so cliffhangy or just bullshit kind of put together.
01:18:07
Speaker
Game of Thrones, for example, but we're not going to get into that. That broke my heart the way they ended that. But the way that they ended it with such a simple closure of, hey, we were there and now we're here and I'm happy to see where you where you've come.
01:18:23
Speaker
You know what I mean? Or how you've gotten here and how I'm here now. And we can see each other without there being such anger and animosity the way that they had to deal with when they were cohabitating and dealing with the initial breakup. Because sometimes I feel
Breakup Aftermath and Personal Growth
01:18:36
Speaker
like people in relationships, when they end initially, it's it can be so dark and toxic.
01:18:41
Speaker
You know what i mean? That it gets so, there's such a dark cloud over people in those moments that they don't realize that sometimes the breakup was the best part, what was needed.
01:18:52
Speaker
So many people hold on to, oh, but we were together and oh my God, how would you do this? And ah instead of realizing, holy shit, that's that's the best thing we could have done. Yeah, there's magic in growth.
01:19:04
Speaker
Yeah. And the growth of staying apart, not thinking we grew and we can come back together because what happens is people repeat patterns. especially in a situation or relationship, you repeat those patterns. You can't help it. you know what I mean? Some people can grow. I'm not going to deny that because i have friends that have gone through that. They've broken up and now they're married.
01:19:22
Speaker
But there are a lot of people that typically don't go through that where they can end and come back and be better for it. You know what i mean? So many people like end up go falling right back into that same rhythm of for Gary, probably doing nothing right. And kind of just chilling because now she's back doing all the same things.
01:19:40
Speaker
Right. Mm-hmm. i took I mean, i I love the way that it ended. I love the fact that they realized, okay, this is what it is. we We can't do this anymore. and
01:19:55
Speaker
People. laughing because am I the only one that had like a little hope for them? Me. No. I'm like, wait, they're not getting back together? Like ever, ever, ever?
01:20:06
Speaker
What the fuck is happening? Like, is that really done? guess it's because, is this your first time watching the movie? No, but like. She was reminded. Yeah. Like I hadn't watched it in years. like hey Okay. Okay.
01:20:19
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Yeah. No. Well, for me, no, I i guess because I already knew what happened. And also i can just tell by how it ended that it wasn't going to go anywhere. You're not alone. For me, for me, it was like, okay, this is done. But I love the fact that people like to fall into that repetitiveness of like, okay, then that comfortability of like, oh, we're going to keep doing this, keep doing it, keep doing it, keep doing it.
01:20:46
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But they were actually able to say no. And they did it kind of quick, which yeah I mean, they had to move out in two weeks. Yeah. Right. The timeframe was very quick, which realistically, does it happen that fast when you're, well, I'm in, in well, i used to be in New York, right? So in New York, you can't just move out within two weeks.
01:21:07
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Right. thumb being right You know, that's just not something that's realistic. I don't have, that type of money to just be like, mean, 2006 was different. So you might have been in 2006. That's true. to you And that's with Chicago. So a little cheaper.
01:21:21
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Right. So I don't know how how realistic that part was for me, but I just, I love the way that it ended. They both needed to not be together. i can see both things though. Yeah. Ending being perfectly fine of them going their separate ways. And maybe just being cordial with each other being able to see each other without, because again, love can, I feel like people go into these relationships. Sometimes they probably could have been friends and loved each other that way, but they obviously went another route, whatever.
01:21:52
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And at the end, it could have gone the friendship route where was like, we know each other. We've been around each other for so many years. Like we've been there like, That's it, like cordial enough where like at a distance I could see you and there'd be a problem.
01:22:03
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But I also ah understand where you coming from now because him turning back, her turning back and the wink, I said, he gon' clap. that's what i there That's what I was gonna say, right? Like this this is leading me to to wrapping up the conversation here in terms of like what, what if anything, we would change.
01:22:21
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And from what I'm hearing, it's we would have loved to see them go from the breakup to the hookup at minimum. Maybe. But I feel like I like the way it ended and leave it to my imagination because after that, and then you got a whole, ah that's a whole nother can of worms, if you will. Next morning feelings.
01:22:41
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<unk> They look so happy, so content. in The tension was there though. Of course. Yeah, because definitely that there's history there, no but they look very happy and No, why would you want to go back? Yeah.
01:22:58
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I think they had accepted. Yeah, they accepted their faith, right? This yeah this is what it is. What is it? the the The steps that you got to go through before you could get to acceptance. They went through all of that.
01:23:09
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The grief, the anger, the denial. ease yeah Yeah. Why put yourself back? in that circle. that's what it is. It was just cute think, you know, because of the way it ended, them looking back, you know, it's kind of like those scenes where somebody looks back and is like, we're going to have we're going try this again. And, oh, I love you.
01:23:27
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yeah, like, know he changed. He showed he changed. So why not try again? He's not the same man, right? Yeah. Right. But he's still, he's not the same.
01:23:38
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Vika, he's not the same man. She's not the same woman. But that means that they're not the same person that you initially were with. They're completely different. They're in a different chapter, different phase in their life. That person that you knew before is no longer this person. All right. So ah so no flirting.
01:23:54
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That little wink at the end, they kind of kept it to themselves. That's what I would have changed. It was good to see you, bro. Dap it up and roll. Yeah. Pound it up and keep moving. Why y'all gotta look back, wink, and ah, yeah.
01:24:05
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First of all, and then her hand. And like, oh my God, it was great. And I would love to see you. Come over. It's gonna be on my house. I'm gonna give you something on the house.
01:24:18
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Get out of my face. She just wanted a ride. Freka, freka, freka. It was beautiful though.
01:24:33
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Well, ladies, I'm gonna go ahead and take us in the direction of wrapping it up. I'm gonna give everyone here an opportunity to give one key takeaway. if If you were to recommend this movie to and a young adult today in 2025 saying, hey, I want you to watch this 20 year old movie.
01:24:51
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Here is the key takeaway. What is it? You got anything? um
01:25:01
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Wow. What would it be? the one key takeaway for me It's growth is essential. Even if you don't realize it yourself, that is something that's always going to be needed.
01:25:12
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Right. So whether you see it that you need it or it's other people, that reflection of meeting growth, it's always going to happen no matter how old you are. Growth and knowledge and expanding, being better.
01:25:26
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I think for me is boundaries and self-love. I was going to say that. Like put yourself first, love yourself first. Self-love and boundaries. um at the end of the day, regardless, you come first.
01:25:40
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In order for you to pour into others, you have to pour into yourself. So that would be my takeaway. Yeah. Yeah. so I guess my takeaway, and it's very, very relevant to the theme that we are on right now and today in this episode is all good things come to an end and it's okay to say goodbye.
01:26:05
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It's okay to let go. Things, right, in life, chapters come and go and people will serve their purpose and... It might be scary and you might not be able to imagine what it's like to not be with this person or have this person.
01:26:22
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But ultimately, to your point, having self-love, having self-care, having the ability to just recognize that growth is part of the process, I think definitely goes a long way. And that would be the key takeaway I would want for any young adult watching this movie going forward. so With that said, I love you guys. I appreciate you guys. I am so happy that I was able to do this last episode of season one with you both.
01:26:48
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We started this journey together and I think that our conversations have been very valuable to not only ourselves and being able to just reflect and have self-therapy amongst a trusted group of friends. Every single guest that I've had has been a trusted person in my life.
01:27:04
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And I love that, you know, we have these people in my village and our village that we can have these type of conversations and go deep into these topics and really just challenge each other's thought process and how we deal with relationships overall and and just life. So again, I appreciate you guys so much.
01:27:21
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We love We love you. And I'm so glad that we did this. Thank you for having us. a wrap.
01:27:34
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bitches! To all of my spoiler alert listeners, I will be back with another season. Season two will have a different theme and a different motto. But for now, we are going to close the chapter on this passion project. Thank you to everybody that has made it possible.
01:27:51
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With that being said, stay focused, stay motivated, love one another, have a great day. Peace, love, and chicken grease. Love that. Love that. We
01:28:06
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did it. I'm putting LaBaby to sleep, ain't I? Okay. But we can go. We can go together. That was good. That was great. Yeah. Hell yeah.
01:28:28
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All the way to the end. Yeah, that was good. Mm-hmm. Lo hicimos. We did it. Rated R for Reflections.