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It's Not Enough
18 Plays5 months ago
Keep on Dancin', Charles.
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Non-linear show structure and travel plans
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miguel cairo
Okay, well...
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The Whole Ballgame
two shirtless 40-somethings, probably both high. Not sure. no I'm sure. And we've got the second half of this.
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The Whole Ballgame
There it is.
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The Whole Ballgame
Here's the thing, everybody. You know, these shows, they're not linear sometimes. We started recording this ball game before Blake and I even went to San St. Louis, right.
00:01:18
miguel cairo
andys And Sykeston.
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The Whole Ballgame
And Sykeston for Lamberts. And, uh, and as a result, I'm toying around with the idea of playing this second half first, because we released the, and maybe we'll just separate this into two.
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miguel cairo
Sy...
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The Whole Ballgame
I don't know, but I figured it was worth talking about before we get back into the ball game, right.
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miguel cairo
Are you telling me that up up and down is left is right and Finkel is Einhorn and Einhorn is Finkel?
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The Whole Ballgame
This, uh,
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The Whole Ballgame
Einhorn is Finkel at the very least.
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The Whole Ballgame
It's been a weird week in the and America. I'm wearing a Spangle Beanie Baby on my head.
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miguel cairo
We have photos.
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The Whole Ballgame
We do. It'll probably be the the show photo for this one, as a matter of fact. but ah
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miguel cairo
I'm also implicated.
Influence of substances on credibility
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The Whole Ballgame
I took a gummy.
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miguel cairo
Yeah.
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The Whole Ballgame
uh blake is is consistently uh on his uh thing whatever that thing's called
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miguel cairo
Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly by you, but you're you're admittedly high, so you're not credible.
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The Whole Ballgame
i'm not a credible witness by any means no um i'm wearing my shirt on my head blake's got a bandana on and
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miguel cairo
i was listening to Pac.
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The Whole Ballgame
was He was listening to Pac. And we started the show with some clips from... um Hey, here's you know the guy who got... oh um
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The Whole Ballgame
Murdered this week. In front of a whole bunch of people. And there's a lot of people that are upset about it. And there are some people that aren't as upset about it. um And... I guess...
Mourning controversial figures
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The Whole Ballgame
The question that... The question. One of the questions that keeps floating through my mind is... do we have to mourn assholes?
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miguel cairo
No, um I confronted this in ninth grade, actually.
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The Whole Ballgame
Okay.
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miguel cairo
um by my buddies and I actually had this discussion and you know, it's I guess one of the first early lessons into the the human psyche I suppose but anyway, so like the summer between our 8th and 9th grade year like these two kids basically went fucking joyriding out in the country and Doing shit they shouldn't have done. Flipped fucking car. and And one of them died.
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miguel cairo
um And like. It's fucking tragic. any That needs to go unsaid. Like any loss of life. Especially a young life. And you know. One that has a family. And and people that are left in effect. It's not good. like Period.
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miguel cairo
um But. Anyway, this, this kid was a real fucking problem. Like, he was a dick. Like, total asshole.
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miguel cairo
Just shithead. And, like, nobody recognized that anymore. And, like, it it was mind-blowing to me.
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The Whole Ballgame
Thank you.
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miguel cairo
and I'm starting to come around to kind of why that makes sense to me now. But I was just like astonished. I'm like, do you do you guys not remember the stuff he said and did? And like why are and and even a couple of our friends, you know, we we talked about it and, know, because you'll talk to your friends and confidence and stuff.
00:04:57
miguel cairo
But so now my answer no, ah you know, celebrate it. Definitely. You don't, it's not, like I said, it's not good. It's better for it to not happen.
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miguel cairo
um There are very few people who are better off dead than not, probably. Like, you know, we say whatever a lot, but people being problematic and this, and the other, but most people don't have a real enough purpose that they matter that much.
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miguel cairo
So... ah You know, it's it's it's just not good either way, and it's and we're worse off for it, but you probably shouldn't lose any sleep either.
Heroization of troubled individuals
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miguel cairo
Not on this one.
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The Whole Ballgame
Yeah, we had something similar, and I was just just out of high school in my little town. This dipshit kid who never caused anything good to ever happen had joined the the Marines, and he went over to Afghanistan. and I might have told this story on the show before, but he and a couple of his buddies got into the raw opium in the fields, and and got high and got high and went out and got himself killed.
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miguel cairo
As you do. As you do.
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The Whole Ballgame
And, you know, he was brought home and hailed as a hero. They named my little league ballpark, Prairie Meadow Park, after him. It's now called, it's called, it's called Birchfields.
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miguel cairo
David Von Eric Field.
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The Whole Ballgame
His last name was Birchfields.
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miguel cairo
We need to change that Von Eric.
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The Whole Ballgame
ah Right? Something, right? But yeah, it's the same concept. It's like everybody just forgot what a complete and utter dickhead this kid was because he lost his life. oh You know, like, I don't know, man.
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The Whole Ballgame
It's... it's um Everything feels a little tenuous now. You know, it makes me wonder about the the ribbons that kind of make up our reality because...
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The Whole Ballgame
um even though I don't have any emotional tie to this human being who who was murdered,
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The Whole Ballgame
um oh the there's still this kind of off feeling about everything. I can't quite figure out if
Personal beliefs in a polarized society
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The Whole Ballgame
it's if it's that um everything is actually off or it's just I have...
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miguel cairo
Uh-huh, yeah. yeah
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The Whole Ballgame
um what I consider to be a very rational fear that, um, that people that have similar mindsets to myself, to Blake, probably to most of you that are listening, um, will now become,
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The Whole Ballgame
ah I, I hesitate to say the word target because I don't want to sound like a pussy, but like, um, you know, like,
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miguel cairo
i'll take I'll take Gizzle's weight and bring it to me. I'll accept that fucking bullseye. You give it to me, cocksuckers.
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The Whole Ballgame
and it's it will And that's just it, right? Like, I don't... I'm not even talking about, like, myself, I guess.
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miguel cairo
Nah, we're fine.
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The Whole Ballgame
i I'm talking about, like, ah yeah, like, what who too the fuck cares what we do? Like, I'm, you know, I got a fake heart, and you got to fake everything else, and...
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miguel cairo
It's all fake, baby.
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The Whole Ballgame
Yep.
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miguel cairo
Look, I still stand by my challenge. I'm waiting for ah RFK Jr. to accept my fucking challenge for the cage, brother. I'm gonna take that old, old face and I'm gonna fucking grind meat out of him, dude.
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The Whole Ballgame
Ha ha ha ha ha.
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The Whole Ballgame
So, yeah, it's weird. It's been weird. um
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miguel cairo
Put my dick on him.
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The Whole Ballgame
um'm i'm I'm not going to play this first. We're going to play this in order. We're just going to see a little bit how the sausage is made, but not a clue.
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miguel cairo
You...
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miguel cairo
You have no idea what you're going to do yet. You're you'll go back and forth and look, look, you're right.
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The Whole Ballgame
Nope. Yep.
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miguel cairo
Like I, yeah and the, and the off that it's, it's cause you're a fucking dumb asshole. You're a decent human. You stupid bitch. That's why you feel bad.
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miguel cairo
Cause it's a bad thing. Something bad happened.
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The Whole Ballgame
Yeah.
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miguel cairo
He's, he's a bad person and it is a bad thing still. Like it, it doesn't have to be one way, like, you know, one or the other.
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The Whole Ballgame
Yeah, it kind of has to be both in this instance, doesn't it?
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miguel cairo
it
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The Whole Ballgame
Yep.
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miguel cairo
it It's not good. And when not good things happen, you know, you shouldn't feel good. You shouldn't feel anything but kind of sick and bad and disgusted, which is kind of not a lot of what we've seen.
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The Whole Ballgame
Yeah.
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miguel cairo
You know, those cocksuckers were very disappointed that it turned out to be a 22-year-old white guy from ah fucking, he's one of your folk, a Mormon, for God's sakes.
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The Whole Ballgame
Yeah, it sure was.
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miguel cairo
Mike, that...
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The Whole Ballgame
is and Well, and that's the other thing. And now, like, God, man, the world that we live in is so dangerous for so many people that it shouldn't be dangerous for.
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The Whole Ballgame
And, like, the idea that, you know, talk about targets, Jesus Christ. um
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The Whole Ballgame
They're just digging and digging, trying to find any tie to who... a man oh decided that they're actually a woman or a woman who decided that they're actually a man.
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miguel cairo
Yeah, just wild, man.
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The Whole Ballgame
Like his roommate was this or that, and they were lovers and, and absolutely no evidence to the fact that that's the case. Just digging and dig, trying to find some tie to make, to, to, to absolve, absolve their own guilt for being a piece of shit.
Lack of nuance in public discourse
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The Whole Ballgame
Um, and, and, And if they're white and Republican or conservative or were raised that way or really love guns, then it means they're all the same, right?
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The Whole Ballgame
Like people, but we we come back to that nuance argument that we talk about. There's a certain group of people in this country that do not have the ability to comprehend nuance, right?
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miguel cairo
Yeah, biologically, I think.
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The Whole Ballgame
yeah well i mean and And unfortunately, um you know one of them died this week.
00:11:29
miguel cairo
Yeah, it's no good, but I guess it if nothing else, you know, he's he's where he wants to be.
00:11:40
The Whole Ballgame
Well, that's a good point, too. with the The other part of this, I think, is that um it could very well be visceral. Like, I... you know as Blake likes to point out pretty regularly, I can't put my phone down.
Impact of constant online presence
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The Whole Ballgame
And so when you're online in the moments directly after something like this happens, all sorts of video gets put out and you get it right in front of your face before you can decide whether or not you want it in front of your face.
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miguel cairo
Yeah, it's not good.
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miguel cairo
Yeah.
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The Whole Ballgame
And, you know, when you see a man,
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The Whole Ballgame
ah
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miguel cairo
Yeah, I understand.
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The Whole Ballgame
It's, ah you know, it's like Faces of Death when we were in middle school, right? At the the ah Malco Trio or at Pages Home Theater.
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miguel cairo
Yeah.
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The Whole Ballgame
theatre
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miguel cairo
We took our girlfriends to see that.
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The Whole Ballgame
There you go. See? See, this is a beautiful thing.
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miguel cairo
Midnight.
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The Whole Ballgame
i was at rocky I was at Rocky Horror.
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miguel cairo
I never...
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The Whole Ballgame
You were at Faces of Death.
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miguel cairo
yeah
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The Whole Ballgame
There's the difference between Blake and Gabe in a perfect little nutshell.
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miguel cairo
i wound up at Rocky Horror eventually.
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The Whole Ballgame
ah you make You make a perfect, a perfect meatloaf.
00:12:44
miguel cairo
But... ah I tell you...
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The Whole Ballgame
Ready.
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miguel cairo
Yeah, we'll see. The secret is is you gotta make it about baking at 4.30 for about four and a half hours, brother. all in the breadcrumbs. I'd say good perfect meatloaf.
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miguel cairo
And I would do anything.