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TSP Ep 141: Interview with Steven Aripez Part 2

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In this episode  Tom, Stephen, and Steven continue their discussion. They discuss revival houses and get a glimpse into film festivals from Steven, who runs the Temecula Film Festival. Then they get stupid drunk and are dumb dumbs.

So come along with us as we learn a thing or two!

If you'd like to see Steven's film, Director's Cut, you can find him here:

https://tubitv.com/movies/100019561/the-director-s-cut

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Transcript

The Importance of Community in Filmmaking

00:00:00
Speaker
So, you know, and it's like the one thing that they've always brought up is like, right? Like they have like this group text and there's a community and it's not, no one is ever just doing this shit alone. You liar. We do it alone.
00:00:13
Speaker
Well, we're trying not to. We got Steven here to help. I don't want anybody. Hey, baby. Now, if you think we had a community, you think that'd be beneficial?
00:00:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, it would be. That's why I think... But what if the community is all like writer-directors? That's what I think is interesting because that's where you really start to stretch the limit of of of your ability.
00:00:40
Speaker
Like, okay, you're a writer-director, but can you be a gaffer? Yeah. Can you run cable? Do you understand lighting? Yeah. and Because I always have this concern for

Challenges and Growth in Filmmaking Roles

00:00:55
Speaker
myself. the door, baby. Okay? And I'm a little curious of what you think about this, Steven.
00:01:02
Speaker
ah I think you can make it bigger. Hurry, Emma, before she comes in. No! Don't let... Hi, baby. No, so Steven, I want to ask you this. you know
00:01:15
Speaker
I always feel like... I don't necessarily have the personality to be a good like assistant or... Or just like a helper on set. Like, I'm not going to be a good gaffer because I'm going to try to take over the set because of my personality. Yeah, you're pretty bad with that.
00:01:34
Speaker
But I'm right.
00:01:37
Speaker
um so i feel But it's not your it's not yours. But I still want to help. But it's not yours, so you have to step back. Yeah, no, I understand that, but...
00:01:49
Speaker
Because you've helped a lot of projects. i am ah Something i'm always admired I've always admired about you is you always find a way to like give your time that you don't have to help others.
00:02:04
Speaker
you know ah that You know, things have changed. yeah right come on Thomas Duvall ain't calling so much these days.
00:02:19
Speaker
Playboy models hang around us? Oh, of course, when I unpause, that's what you say. ah Playboy models. Karen still listens to the show. He met Playgirl models. We lost a lot of viewers when she left.
00:02:32
Speaker
You know, it's it's understandable.

Learning and Humility in Filmmaking

00:02:36
Speaker
But no, man, I really want um want to know, like, I've always admired that about you, that you you'll just give your time to help everybody. Like, you're... well You know, you don't necessarily say no, even though you know the project isn't the best.
00:02:55
Speaker
And I want to know, like, because in that sense, you have, like, this bigger network than I do of filmmakers. I mean, I have more prestigious, well-known. I'm kidding. No, but no. Come on, just help me talk. Well, dude, at our level, you know, being on a different set is just...
00:03:16
Speaker
ah It's just a part of learning, you know, because I get to see how they do it and how I would do it. So, you know, so much of this I'm willing to do because I'm still learning.
00:03:30
Speaker
You're never not learning. i mean this Well, you can be. I mean, I've been at my job for 20 years. Ain't no one going to tell me nothing new. And if they have something new to delve on, I'm like, yeah, shut up. you know I'm going to be more ignorant to it.
00:03:45
Speaker
But with filmmaking, like I'm still learning. And it's fun. you know It's fun being on a set and seeing what people can create. And it's hard to not step over their feet.
00:03:59
Speaker
But I think for me in particular, it's good because you know I need that like humility.

The Craft of Short and Feature Films

00:04:06
Speaker
i think just the humility is good for me. Okay. could of to be a To be a grunt, even though i think I know it would be better. Because I think I could be an okay grunt. i'm just I got too much power in my brain. like I have to take over.
00:04:24
Speaker
That's my concern. But that's where the humility comes in where it's like, no, shut the fuck up. This isn't about you. This is about them. I know, but they suck. Okay.
00:04:35
Speaker
But, you know, yeah, maybe they do, but they're still doing something that's extraordinary. So, you know, why not be a part of that and try to make that into something like... I think you make a good point. like Like, put features aside.
00:04:51
Speaker
Features are hard to make. We all understand that. The majority of population that has ever made a feature film is extremely low. We're an extremely elite club of people who have had made a feature.
00:05:07
Speaker
We're not even in that. We're not even in your club, Stephen, because we're not done. You know? Yeah, i got yeah. I get what you're saying. it's it's an extremely small amount of people. and Also to make something watchable.
00:05:21
Speaker
but you watch with I can watch director's cut and follow the story from start to finish. That's another thing, yeah. but where we make it watch like Short films are even... I mean, they're easier to make, but they're still very hard.
00:05:36
Speaker
Yeah, I find them harder in a way because you've got such little time to get the point. I find the more tighter or shorter of short film, the more effective, personally. I don't know enough about short films, but...
00:05:51
Speaker
I was telling Tom that I feel like the next short film, it'll actually feel like a proper short film. I feel like made even know what that means. i From one my experience of just seeing short films, plenty of them, because I have the Film Fest when I watch a bunch of short films. Oh, yeah.
00:06:04
Speaker
And I've seen a lot of good ones. I'm just like... it just It's like hard to condense a beginning and a half in a short film. but But then there's films like The Red Balloon. yeah I don't know if you've ever seen it. I know of it. I haven't seen it.
00:06:18
Speaker
It's worth a watch, but it's like... Truffaut, right? I have no fucking idea. Is that Truffaut? Is it Truffaut? The Red Balloon? No. It's French, though, right? yeah Yeah, it's French. It's not Truffaut. Who is it? Tom's on it.
00:06:32
Speaker
tom's on is But you know you you see this camera... on this balloon and then you just see some people interacting and it just feels so raw and natural. Like anything you love about Sean Baker trying to be real, it's like, nah, this motherfucker was real.
00:06:48
Speaker
And it just it just has that element. I don't know why I brought that up. You know what i was going to say? that I think the key to a great short film is just having a strong concept of the of the film. Oh, dude.
00:06:59
Speaker
like and That's what with any film, but I feel like in short films, it all plays even a bigger factor. like If a concept's strong, yeah it's going to work better as a short. Well, I was going say lights out. the Yeah, yeah.
00:07:10
Speaker
Have you seen that short film? It's the most simplest short film, but it is just so... it is But it taps into a like yeah perfect fear, it a relatable fear of like, Shitting off the lights. Honestly, that might be the best short film ever. It's a great short Because you just understand it immediately, what's going on and everything. The director of The Red Balloon is Albert...
00:07:30
Speaker
Lamorici. Lamorici. Okay. albert and itsla and Albert Hitler. No, but the red balloon is, uh, I think that's from what I've seen. That's the greatest short film I've ever seen.
00:07:42
Speaker
have to see it, but you said it's like 45 minutes though, right? Yeah. I mean, it's bordering like a feature, but yeah, it it is a short there still, yeah but it's still short. Um, It's pretty good. But for me, personally, that's like the greatest.
00:07:55
Speaker
Yeah. But then there's also Lights Out, which maybe is like number two, because that's what you want your short film to be. Two minutes or even less. think it's like preise five minutes or something. they set me I don't even know. It's less than 10 minutes. Literally that launched that dude's career.
00:08:12
Speaker
What about Butt Spaghetti, buddy? oh buddy, you're going to make it. Trust me People just haven't discovered it.

Participating in a 48-Hour Film Festival

00:08:20
Speaker
You ever seen my short butt spigot? no, I haven't, dude.
00:08:25
Speaker
What about... Send it over. He made me eat spaghetti through an ass. That's... Send it over. And you know what, Steven? There's a point in your life where you just going to like, do I have self-respect?
00:08:37
Speaker
Do... When I look in the mirror, do i flinch? Hey, I think it's a pretty good little short. And that's what he said, too. You know what? Nothing beats my Princess Amidala short, though.
00:08:51
Speaker
No, that was like... i don't really No one knew that was Princess Amidala. Really? Yeah. Oh. Where you start puking? Yeah. Yeah, no. You were like the moon.
00:09:03
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah, go deeper. Just say that's my Georges Millet. Okay. Yeah. Because I think that's the best thing I ever made. It is. You've never seen this? No, yeah I've only seen the cut of Dickhead that you sent me.
00:09:17
Speaker
Oh, the early cut. Sweet summer child. I'm sorry. I'll show you some stuff later. well Well, we'll make you feel better about yourself. We'll make you feel better. All right, so Tom's a great filmmaker, though.
00:09:33
Speaker
I think you guys both have talent. so Yeah, that we work good together. We only work together. The 40-hour film festival is coming up that for Inland Empire.
00:09:44
Speaker
It's October 3rd to the 5th.
00:09:48
Speaker
Would you guys... says That's next weekend. No, it isn't. No, it's month away. It's like a month away. oh it's going to be September. Yeah, September. You're forgetting. One month. It is nearly one month away.
00:10:01
Speaker
Now, tims for I feel like if we all did this, we would not lose. I don't know if we wouldn't lose, but we would, ah I think we could be contenders.
00:10:13
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, i I would be confident, but the question is, I don't know if I, I might have to, like, I feel like the capacity of what I can do, because I got the film festival coming up in October. But but also, it's just one of those things that I would like to be involved, maybe in editing or something.
00:10:32
Speaker
I'm telling you, like, look, could we do I don't see how we could do it without you. I could, if i if I don't have to, i may I would like to be there where you guys shoot it, but isn't it supposed to be where we're all supposed to be in the same room and doing everything? No, no, no, no, Look, look, look. This is how it works.
00:10:47
Speaker
So Friday happens and you go down and you get your scene. Topic, right? Your genre, your character, prop, character, and hit line dialogue. have to make something out of it, right? And then you have two days to make a film around that.
00:11:03
Speaker
Who's going to write it? If Tom says himself, we're fucked. Who's going to write it? Oh, shit. That's okay. I mean, yeah, he can write it. No, we're all, it's going to be community. Maybe you could write it, but we can come up with a story. We're going all write it. No, we're all going to write it.
00:11:21
Speaker
Okay, that's fair. Look. Zoom me in. We have two days. There's already too many egos in the room. We can do it. We can do it.
00:11:32
Speaker
I feel like if we put our powers together, we cannot lose. Is there run time that has to be? I don't know. There might be a run time. Like has be a sign. Our film will be like 50 minutes. No, you got to watch. No, that you got to watch them go to the door. and in one bay I think those 40, those competitions give a run time. Like can't be longer than.
00:11:50
Speaker
They should. Eight minutes or something. We can do it. You guys think we can't do it? So that, uh, I do like things that give you parameters because you kind of like it gets you quicker to the conclusion, personally. but I'm not saying we can't.
00:12:02
Speaker
I'm saying we can't. My question is if we actually commit to doing this, we do it, but we're going to win. There's no fucking slacking off, dude. This is 48 hours. we're ah You're either in or you're out.
00:12:14
Speaker
I just wish we could know the genre, at least. But you can't, right? Not until you get it, yeah. Dude, we'll figure out. I mean, it would be fun to brainstorm it. It'd be fun to do.
00:12:26
Speaker
um Now, being there while you guys film it, that might be on you guys just filming it, and then ah I can help him post. I think that's part of the point, though. Yeah. But then I'm like... But coming up with it, I'd be down. Like, let's zoom. Let's get on this. On hour 36, you got to show up and cut it. You got to send me the files on time. Oh, fuck. The XML and all that shit. Oh, fuck. Or, yeah. Send me the fucking memory card. We're going to drive down and give you the hard drive.
00:12:52
Speaker
I guess this... Is this a thing? Are we going to do this? No? or It's up to you, man. i'm until I can ah for sure do it if I'm doing it remotely. You know what I can do. I'll help you.
00:13:04
Speaker
And if you guys film it, and we can come up with a story, and you guys film it, you send me, let me do a rough cut real quick. But you to let me come in on that script and cut it up, dude. Motherfucker, I ain't going to let you just go with your script. I'm going to cut it.
00:13:17
Speaker
It'd have to be like very concept heavy, whatever genre and make it the shortest, the better. Yeah. no oh yeah yeah yeah And that cant even there can't be any bullshit of kind of compromise. and we can all I'll be like, Tom, no, no, no.
00:13:30
Speaker
Okay. But that, you know, these are the things I just need to know. Like, cause if I think this would, this is good for us. I think. No, I I've always wanted to do a 48 hour. There has to be some trust. Yeah.
00:13:43
Speaker
always I think everybody just needs to know their role. That's what I'm saying. but nobody if they were trying but like I'm good. like let me cut let me do one and Let me get an editor credit and let me do one edit. And then let me help with the story. But that's what I'm saying. like tom right right yeah That you're going to cut it and we're going to go with that.
00:14:00
Speaker
We could give them the dailies. Yeah, I would have to cut There's no daily. There's one day. yeah Yeah, there is. So he has to get started on the cut yeah right away. I'm just wondering if we could if you guys want if you guys thought we could pull this shit off. We don't have to pay to be involved. ain't to fuck around. like We got to take this shit.
00:14:20
Speaker
As serious as possible. That's why I'm just asking. Yeah, I'm down. But we got to be like fucking. Do you know the genres that are in there? Boots to the ground, man. There's a lot of genres. Like how many?
00:14:30
Speaker
i think there's like 14 or 15. It's crazy. Go through them. and let's do that And let's do a quick brainstorm on each genre. I can do it all. Let's do it. Let's do it. And that's it. The first thing is comedy. ah Well, you see. Yeah.
00:14:48
Speaker
ah do it on I just have to steal something from like know from the past my buddy my buddy John has a good a fluffer fluffer like yeah that's a fluffing from like porn movies who fly like make sure He has an idea like that, like for a short.
00:15:05
Speaker
I'll be like, oh, maybe we should go with that. Yeah, maybe. I think we're going to that. John, can I use it, please? for um He's the guy who's in myself. He's the guy that's in director's coat who is the bearded guy.
00:15:21
Speaker
He has the longer hair. Oh my God. There was two white guys. He's one of the white guys. Is he the bigger white guy? Yeah, the bigger white guy. Oh yeah, he's your big buddy. There's way more there's like way more than 12. twelve there's what Let's go through them.
00:15:34
Speaker
There's a lot. Okay. Action adventure. Action adventure. Die hard. We do a martial arts movie. That's so easy. Werewolves from outer space. Let's go. Comedy. Our lives. We do something sexual.
00:15:47
Speaker
That's all I know. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. i guess Like a sex comedy or something. It's going to be like Quasimodo trying to like, but he's really good at sex and he's really ugly, but he's so good at sex. like and You have to try it. you have Yeah.
00:16:01
Speaker
It's like, dude, it's like, wait, you fucked like You haven't fucked Fabio yet? You haven't fucked Quasi? that why think Quasi is so good at sex, you won't even believe it. Can I ask? gay I hope we get comedy. Can I interrupt and ask a quick question? Yeah. ah Can I dictate how much I'm involved? yeah like How much am I 48 hours? Absolutely.
00:16:20
Speaker
Okay. Dark comedy. This one's easy. we're we're so We're at a funeral. Something at death, yeah. No, it's not. It's like a funeral, but the person that's speaking in the obituary is like the guy that like fucked her to death.
00:16:36
Speaker
And it's like, dude, was like, damn, those final moments, she just just loved every little second of it. I was thinking you more morbid, but but that's good. You know what?
00:16:49
Speaker
Then there was that moment where just her heart stopped.
00:16:55
Speaker
ah I pumped it one more beat. as she went Or just like, it's this the guy talking about and then you see the flashback of him killing her. I was so relieved that I knew she would never be pregnant.
00:17:08
Speaker
Alright, okay. Detective Cop. ah I feel like that's... detective Detective or cop. It says detective slash cop. Bobolowski, bro. I think we do ah we could do like a classic femme fatale going up to a PI or something like that. Oh, we have an easy... Bobolowski is a character we've been writing for on the podcast for years. It's so easy. We just go Bobolowski all day, all night.
00:17:30
Speaker
Drama. Babalowski. but No, I think drama. I remember, not Kasusha, Ali. Ali Ardoin. Drama is so like wide. It's just so easy. you you go You find the oldest person we know between all of us, and we just write a movie called Old Person Falling Down Stairs.
00:17:50
Speaker
And we have ah this old lady fall down some stairs. And then through the course of falling down the stairs, she like hits her table. She like knocks her shit over. She's remembering her life. Yeah. And it's like, there's like tulips and flowers. You know how see your life before you die? That happened to my grandma. She broke her ankle. Excuse me.
00:18:11
Speaker
There you go. Fantasy. Fantasy.
00:18:16
Speaker
That one's tough. Fantasy sci-fi or is just fantasy? Just fantasy. Honestly, fantasy is pretty rough. That's a hard one. i mean You gotta to have like... Oh, I got it. i i gotta do like ah We do like a realistic futuristic thing or something. No, we go up to Big Bear. We go up to Big Bear.
00:18:34
Speaker
And we have... We're hunting for a troll. No, I'm just kidding. No, we're not hunting for a troll. we're like We're looking for the Grushalak or whatever. Bigfoot. where these little people that are starving trolls everyone walks on their knees we want to fight the little people that are starving they don't really run very far because they're really hungry we don't get fantasy how about that dude let's pray on that one just wait i got you so they're on their knees and they're like trying to get through the forest so just like why is life so hard you know like
00:19:10
Speaker
I wish I could just sing a song that could make life better. And then one of them starts to sing, and it's like, life for top people is so good. Life for top people is so great. I just think we should make it like a sexual thing if it's fancy. We're going to lose. Okay, Femme de Film.
00:19:28
Speaker
What? A film that centers around strong female characters and their experiences, perspectives. This is about a ah big, very overweight African-American prostitute named...
00:19:41
Speaker
Lakonda. She's like a... and then Okay, we also have to think about, like do we have these cast members on today? Steven, just do not respond.
00:19:52
Speaker
and Good point. People will forget we're on the podcast. Femme de film. A film that's a strong female character and their experiences, perspectives, and relationships. We just make one of ah of a woman like you know taking control of her sexuality or something. That's your femme fatality. Out of Water, a film that typically involves a character being placed in a situation or environment that is completely unfamiliar or incompatible with their usual lifestyle or background. This guy, this white dude goes to like this black party because he's trying to get hooked up with this girl that he met. And then the first black person. I don't know that many black people. I mean, Stephen, you're going to have to help. The first black person he sees, he tries to shake his head. he he play neck He just basically puts himself in an uncomfortable position for pussy.
00:20:38
Speaker
yeah but story of our lives the lengths you would go for that okay and then there's horror horror is easy that'd be the best one i got puppets that might actually be a hard one because we might have too many ideas horror is easy mockumentary easiest fucking fuck I can do mockumentary all day all well the mockumentary is this This podcast is a mockery. We do a podcast about a guy that wants You guys are interviewing a guy who wants to kill you and you don't know it. I got the perfect one. We just got perfect one.
00:21:08
Speaker
I've been very fascinated by popsicle contests where people like suck popsicles until they like win the fastest. ah Okay. And I was like, dude, could you imagine a mockumentary about these people? That's wild.
00:21:21
Speaker
and its I like the uniqueness of it. Yeah. It's so crazy, dude. You have to understand how crazy it is. Okay. jesus like that Musical or Western. music Musical Western, they're combined? Combined, yes. Okay, so we can do either a Western or a musical. or a Western.
00:21:39
Speaker
I could do a musical. Musical would be fun to crack at. could pull it off. But it's a little bit more difficult because it deals. Actually, I don't know Western's hard because live in the desert. You know, Western would be is easier. You do a contemporary Western.
00:21:51
Speaker
Western is so easy. That's so easy. But musical, like, can we get those lyrics out? You know what i mean? No. That's a tough one. And 48 hours? Yeah. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Nothing that's, like, worth, like. Western is so much easier.
00:22:05
Speaker
Yeah, what we live in the desert. Western would be way easier for you guys too because of this area. Romance. That's easy. Easy? I feel like we just do like something like ah forbidden love or something like that. Something like that.
00:22:20
Speaker
Like an affair or something like that. Something that's intriguing because people could get caught or something like that. What kind of romance? Or like we do a guy that's or is someone who's in love with an inanimate object or something like that, you know? An interesting type of romance.
00:22:36
Speaker
Oh, kind of like that. Like, let me fuck my gas hole. Something like that. Gas hole?
00:22:43
Speaker
That's the name of the movie. Gashole. The name of the movie is Gashole and a guy fucks his sci-fi. He gets caught cheating with his car from his wife. Sci-fi is pretty easy.
00:22:53
Speaker
I feel like there's so many things you can do. you got time travel. You got... Yeah. um Clones. You got robots. I mean, yeah got cardboard robots, drugs. Yeah.
00:23:07
Speaker
That's, that's a good one. I've always thought of this one that I would do if it was a sci-fi. i don't know necessarily how you could pull it off in 48 hours, but it's about someone that gets, it's about, about a blind person that gets implants that are um like cameras that feed electrical signals to the brain and they become hijacked by hackers and they essentially,
00:23:29
Speaker
like to uh get the money like it's like hey if you want me to stop like showing you these horrific images like pay me like ten thousand dollars or whatever like to this account bitcoin or whatever and it's like they're hijacking the signal and it's like the person like trying to fight against it and like almost like a revenge thriller you thought about this one yeah superhero Oh, that's a good one. I do have a superhero movie idea. I don't know. I've never written anything of it, but it's called Suburban Nights, but with a K, you know?
00:24:02
Speaker
So it'd be like these suburban parents that become superheroes because of the a loss that they've had, a very horrible loss. Yeah. But i don't know I don't know if it would work for this. I would need to outdi a come with something. One I've always thought of.
00:24:17
Speaker
Or we could do a mentally challenged guy who thinks he's a superhero. Mm-hmm. It's perfect with the superhero psychology. I that would be one I've always thought of for superhero. It's a story. It's like Drunk Man.
00:24:31
Speaker
he gets his He gets super strength from being drunk. Okay. But the moms are like, but he's like a bad example for kids drinking alcohol. So it's like, you know how there's like, there was like mothers against drunk driving.
00:24:44
Speaker
There's like mothers against drunk man. Yeah. And he essentially stopped drinking, which when he's sober, he like is essentially drunk. And like, he's got like after, you know, like he's got that five o'clock shadow. He's like, I haven't had a drink in 45 years. Is he homeless? Yeah.
00:24:58
Speaker
Yeah, he's like, dude, he's lost everything yeah because he's not an alcoholic. He's superhero when he's drunk. He just, yeah he just, he should be like impervious to pain when he's drunk. Yes. Like, yes. No, he's Superman. He's just outcardios everybody because like he just feels dope.
00:25:12
Speaker
Yes. He's essentially Superman when he's drunk. That's pretty good. That's a good idea. and then he's like, you know, he's like, Oh, like I fight crime because of Bacardi. Yeah. Saves my life.
00:25:23
Speaker
And then all the kids want to be like drunk man. All he wants is alcohol for payment. They get wasted and the kids get all drunk and then the moms are like mothers against drunk man. Yeah. And he becomes loser. But he's also defending the city. Yeah. So it's kind of like a catch 22. Exactly. he's like, I don't want to drink, but...
00:25:43
Speaker
I have to, to so to like defeat. I have to support my habit because I'm protecting people's lives. Yeah. That's drunk, man. Okay. That's not bad. I like that one. a Thriller suspense.
00:25:54
Speaker
Oh, dang. Film that aims to generate. I mean, this one's easy. Thriller suspense. Home invasion or something. I mean. That's the easiest for saying. You know what's the best one? It's like, I think my kid's going to murder me. Yeah. And then he tries.
00:26:09
Speaker
But then we got to get a kid actor. There's like a thousand of them right out there. But are they worthy enough? I mean, you got kids too, bitch. We got to use these fuckers and resources.
00:26:20
Speaker
I think a home invasion one's always good. You know what? I kind of want to like, i i don't know if you ever heard this, but there's a story that Bill Hader has a home invasion stoner comedy horror movie.
00:26:30
Speaker
I'm like, why hasn't that movie been made? Why hasn't he made that movie? We can make that movie. Do you need another beer? ah Yeah, I do.
00:26:41
Speaker
But I'm saying we can make that movie. It's never been seen. Dude, that's only what the one group. perfect short film, I feel like. There's a whole other group of films that are genres that can be picked from. me hear this.
00:26:53
Speaker
Alternate History. Oh, that's a good one. ah I mean, this one's easy, right? It's like the South one. ah um i i' like it, but all we got to think of also like, can we make this movie, bro?
00:27:12
Speaker
No, you're right. Realistically. I'll just say, dude, like people love shit like this. if Okay, maybe a future where the Confederate won. So like we're like living in a time where it's like that Confederate confederate mindset is like the way of thinking.
00:27:27
Speaker
Yeah, something like that. like that's i had more in line with aliens. ill That could be good. I'm going down with that. no I didn't. Yeah, um I just immediately went to the racist buddy film.
00:27:43
Speaker
Oh, nice. Okay. A short buddy film? That's tough. I feel like that's tough. That's a tough one because that you need a three act in that short film. The arc and everything. And you need actors that have great charisma. And the buddy film, you always start off there against each other and then they become friends. The proper ones. Oh, yeah. dude. What if it's like... um Or they're they're going through something and they're friends throughout the whole thing and helping each other. you know It's that way too.
00:28:09
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I have this thing. It's like, okay, they're best. They're friends and they both had the same girlfriend. And that's like, God, I just, I can't get over her.
00:28:20
Speaker
And he's like, can't get over the same girlfriend. They both can't get over stalkers. That's I like that. and so ah Yes. So they decide they're going to murder her. Like, oh, wow, that's a good one, actually. They're like, you know what? The only way we can do it is just getting rid of her. Oh, God. We'll be cured of our pain. Oh, my God. That's dark, but I like it. Maybe we can't do it because there's what if we draw a climate film, a film that focuses on exploring themes related to climate change. We're making it horror.
00:28:52
Speaker
It's like we draw we just like put our kids, we use our kids. Or we can do like a recycle guy or something. And we just throw a bunch of we throw a bunch of dead animals at them. And they just cry. And they go, this is 2027 when all nice typespe of abouted the The end.
00:29:11
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right Or we just do like remake The Happening. we'll never We'll never, if we draw that, it was $158 wasted. Yeah, that's a shitty one to take, the climate one. Dance film.
00:29:24
Speaker
I don't know in 48 hours if we can pull it off, but I could try. we could do like an amateur house college la dance watch Flashdance. That's how you to see how it's done. No, we got to watch Gene Kelly movies. the Gene Kelly films. All I know is it just has to end in a dance off. In 48 hours? It has end up in the dance dude, got the best one, dude. I got the best dance movie.
00:29:47
Speaker
So it's called My Fellow Dancer. And it's essentially. not into it. You follow someone dancing from like point A to point B. It's like throughout their day, but everything is choreographed in dance.
00:30:06
Speaker
So they're dancing throughout the whole movie? should be easy. Hey, everybody just dance. Yeah, and it's like you throw eggs at them and they're like, ah, breakfast. And it's like, and then they go, and it's like daycare and it's like kids dancing, you know, like doing like little pirate steps or whatever the kids do. It looks like a little retards.
00:30:25
Speaker
And then they Or we can do is something like ah no, no, not November ends. And the guy has sex and then we go into a dance sequence. Simple.
00:30:35
Speaker
Yeah, that's better. I guess ah food film. That's easy. It's this guy. He's in love. but He's hopelessly in love with this girl.
00:30:47
Speaker
And the only way she'll fall in love with him is by he making the perfect noodles. And he he cooks everything. like right He has that scene where he's like chopping the garlic. He's using it as an aphrodisiac. So thin. He's like chopping. He's just chopping the food.
00:31:01
Speaker
Ch-ch-ch. And then like at the very end, he just drops like like a whole bottle of Ritalin inside of the the spaghetti sauce. So you're basically saying make a sex scene out of a food, and making food. I like that. i like A rape scene, in fact. No, I was thinking more of a sex scene. Martial Arts fight film. oh We got this. That'd be cool.
00:31:20
Speaker
We just do like a Kimbo slice backyard brawl or something. Oh, yeah, dude. We definitely find a midget. Make it very fucking like. Steven, do you know any small people? No, I don't. Would it be Steven versus Steven?
00:31:33
Speaker
Oh, there we go. I was like, ah, he's hitting me. Tom, help me. i didn't say cut, did I? Tom, help. No, what we do is we tie your hands behind your back and then gag you.
00:31:45
Speaker
And then like you just have to like attack each other. Jesus Christ, you're going to. Dang. Wait, why am I tied gagged? i What's the next one? ah Medical film.
00:31:59
Speaker
Oh, this one's easy. The aftermath of when I'm tied and gagged. Medical film. It's very simple. It will all take place from the... 100% of the film will be over the head, ah like a bird's eye view of a gurney.
00:32:19
Speaker
And it's like the someone on the gurney like sliding in. It's like... But it's like, ah what is your medical emergency? And it's like, we don't know what's wrong with this person. Oh, my God. They're fucking dying. There's something there. or well hey what you' What about it what about what but what about of a guy who can't get rid of a boner from like taking Viagra or something? Yeah. he's It's an overhead births I view of a gurney of a guy with a boner that won't go down. It's like, sir, how many? I in a medical emergency? How many did you take?
00:32:50
Speaker
um I took them all. Sir, I can't nut. No, I took them all. Why would you such thing? what why would you do such a thing By the way, one of the worst feelings... Shut up, shut up, shut up. He's angry. like, I'm in the mood. You don't get it.
00:33:11
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She was an
00:33:17
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She was an L.A. 10. Oh, okay, okay, okay. ah But, you know, we we gotta ah we got a ah we got to figure this out. Or we can base this on a real life event where I took ecstasy and I met up with a girl and I could not. nu That's a medical emergency.
00:33:33
Speaker
mystery you took ecstasy and thought it was a good idea to fuck our girl well here's the other thing i didn't expect that she hit me up and she was down and i was like fuck when you're on ecstasy you're like uh-huh yeah come over i'm already there i'm ready but then you realize you're like i can't finish i'm sorry well life's life's like that okay road movie road movie
00:33:59
Speaker
I think we just do a terry Terrence Malick kind of thing. A lot of big wide shots of cars driving. You have ah two people inside of a car and they're like, oh no, cancel that. I got it.
00:34:10
Speaker
Guy's trapped inside of his trunk. The only way he can survive is if he can get... the first time you've come up with that kind of story? No. Maybe. don't think so.
00:34:21
Speaker
and No. Guy's trunk drive stuck in the trunk. He has to stop the car before it careens off the road. Get the fuck out of That might be too hard to film. This is why I'm going to help you. This is why I'm going to help you. was thinking more of a quintessential thing like picking up a hitchhiker. And the guy's trying to convince her like, hey, I gave you a ride. Look at Top's so upset. I like that. Fuck you, Steven.
00:34:46
Speaker
Silent film. Top's going way above our budget, I feel like. Silent film. Silent film. Silent film. Easy. Let me see you do a silent film. A guy giving, jerking off dry orgasm.
00:35:02
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oh shit. We have our star. Yeah. He's got something. This man is a national treasure.
00:35:14
Speaker
don't know what I'm doing. Science film, bad idea. ah's like Let's not get that. Single room movie. Just do a montage, I guess. Single room movie is easy.
00:35:26
Speaker
Single room, yeah. Oh, yeah. guy's recording a podcast and trying to come up with a 48-hour film. I know you do this. No, I was going to say, guy... But just shoot it, like, dynamic, you know what A guy wakes up in a room with no legs.
00:35:39
Speaker
See, he's thinking we the budget we don't have, bro. Nah, dude. I could definitely pretend like... I'll stick my legs through some floorboards, bro. You don't even know. We can't use green screen on the legs. We definitely need someone that doesn't have legs.
00:35:53
Speaker
Do you guys know anyone that i have I definitely don't. I do not. like Well, what about a single room movie where a has to like change his litter box?
00:36:03
Speaker
But he can't. Oh, that's a good one. Or he's been trying to decide his favorite four the whole time and he just keeps getting interrupted. It's like, fuck, I've been trying to okay change my top four four hours. Time travel movie.
00:36:17
Speaker
Easy. Back to the future. No, you you pretty much. Sky goes back and his mom wants to do him. Yeah. Back to the future. Incest. No, it's time travel. It's very simple.
00:36:30
Speaker
This guy wants to go back and fuck himself as a baby. Wow. What? That's some weird. i That's not even incest. I didn't even sign off for that.
00:36:40
Speaker
i like you that what was yeah What would you call that if you wanted to fuck yourself? You don't sign off for it. But what do you call that? What would be that term? You call it like, yeah, I didn't have it.
00:36:52
Speaker
Bob, no one called me today. Tom's like, why did I bring that up right now? You know what I'm sorry. ah Utopian or dystopian? Oh, aren't they kind of the same thing? You told me it's like a positive thing. No, I got a great one. about It's about abortion. Okay, there you go.
00:37:11
Speaker
It's about a girl and she's like, I need to get an abortion. And it's about her like having to go through all these like back alleys and like all this shit to get her like an abortion. And then you find out like i she was pregnant from Jesus. Yeah.
00:37:30
Speaker
I don't I quit. I'm actually like, I like how Steve was just like but shit. I mean, you can tell we're, we're all fucking vacation holiday film.
00:37:42
Speaker
I think Tom has something and then he just, it just disappeared from his. I hate it when that happens. I'm like, that's what happens when you you're too lit. This is our normal. All right. Fuck it.
00:37:55
Speaker
Are we doing this or not? Because it costs money. Yeah. Fuck it. What's it's $158. Yeah. yeah Yeah, we'll do it. I mean, look, like I said, if I can do it remotely, I'm down to be involved. i don't have to be the director. i can. I just would like to help with the edit in the story.
00:38:11
Speaker
Let's just do it. Seriously. Let me edit that shit. We'll do it. For real? Yeah, for real. Tom, you could direct it, write it, or whatever. Steven could direct it. No, fucking around.
00:38:23
Speaker
We're going to get it. we're You guys can co-direct it whatever. i we're all No, it's like going to be a community thing. Okay. A Twin Shadows production? You can't direct. What's your production company called?
00:38:37
Speaker
iCinema Films. You can't direct. Are you okay with that? Yeah. ah you You direct. okay No. You direct. why don't you just... ain't gonna either of us. Then who is it gonna be? i don't know. Someone we don't like.
00:38:49
Speaker
we don't We don't know anybody we don't like. Except the humility. Who's gonna do guys should just co-direct. I think it's... Susanna Chase.
00:39:00
Speaker
She ain't gonna hang You guys need to co-direct. Or one of you guys take the directing lead in or you be like something else. We co-direct. We condirect we can't co-direct. We're too slow.
00:39:12
Speaker
We can do It's either gotta be Tom or me. That's up to you. I'm cool with whatever whatever you guys decide. yeah but but I'll stand too much in the way otherwise. I think we decided on. know my own ego. i'll I'll get in the way too much. Who's going to be the cinematographer?
00:39:32
Speaker
can anyone Who knows how to use a camera? My buddy Jeremy's good, but I don't know if he's he'll be ah available. No, we're either going to use Alex or you and I will do it. well i Look, here's this here's the here's you here's what's happen.
00:39:48
Speaker
We're going to get a genre, a character, a prop, and then depending on that... that We're going to get fantasy. No, no we're going to go off of the strength of whoever can do it the best. And then that person will be the director,

Insights into Film Festival Operations

00:40:00
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and then the other person will be whatever it the needs to be.
00:40:03
Speaker
Yeah, that'd be... a yeah ah Look, I'm down, but like I said, remotely is more realistic for me at the moment because October is soon and... I'll be doing a lot of festival stuff, so i can be I'll be down for more like coming up with the concept and ah or being involved in that aspect and then post-production.
00:40:22
Speaker
cut it What do you do with the festival and how how is that? i'm and Can you talk about that a little bit? The festival, yeah. I'm co-founder and film programmer. So the films that you're seeing, i'm i'm one of the person I'm one of the people that selected them, watched them all, and came up with the blocks. Me and my friend Jeremy, who was one of who was the DP of ah Director's Cut, Jeremy Allen Pappas.
00:40:47
Speaker
um he's your steve he's my my steven okay to you you know so um we came up with the with the blocks of the films and you know um i i watch all of the films and he kind of watched the ones that i thought were like worthy of for him to watch and he also does communications on on the thing but we come up with like okay let's decide this block let's decide the films that are being selected so yeah And he's a co-founder as well. um
00:41:21
Speaker
You've been doing this for a couple of years This the third year. Third year. Yeah. What have you learned as a film festival runner that you think can help you as a filmmaker?
00:41:36
Speaker
I mean, I think what helps is for me, because I'm the the film programmer, I have to watch the movies. So i especially in the beginning, you're scouting for movies. This the first year that wasn't too heavy on the scouting.
00:41:49
Speaker
People were submitting, which was nice, but I did some scouting. But the other two years, You know, i was really i because I'm like, there's no point in having a film festival if your fucking movies are shit, you know, nobody. They're not like up to snuff.
00:42:03
Speaker
So I did a lot of scouting the first two years. So I feel like I got to watch a lot of, excuse me, a lot of shorts. And I could see like, OK, that's kind of why I feel like the next short film I do is going to feel more like a short film because I feel like I got a better understanding of ah how to make one.
00:42:21
Speaker
But yeah, I think it just helps. watching I think watching anything always helps, watching movies in general. So it's just another way of watching movies, you know. and But people also that are like not really known, which is always interesting, watching people that are like on the rise or are more on underground and stuff like that So that's cool.
00:42:39
Speaker
But yeah, I'm the film programmer and yeah. Are there films that you've seen that like but you really want to like just shout out or yeah. Yeah. I mean, a big one is, um, this film called blue diamond.
00:42:56
Speaker
Um, the director, her name is Sam Fox. She's been in all three years of the festival, but because for good reason, she makes good, good films, mostly like horror films, leaning towards horror or horror comedy.
00:43:09
Speaker
Um, but she's got a great visual style and she, tells unique stories, you know, and she's, she's really talented. um, I'm expecting for her to make a feature and it blow up one day, you know?
00:43:22
Speaker
So she's super talented. She, all her short films that I've seen have been great. So she's someone that's really, great really great. We got some, we got a lot of good ones. I feel like, um, heart of stone, which has a Naomi,
00:43:36
Speaker
Naomi Rap but place from girl with the Dragon Tattoo, the original. She's in it. um This one called Metal that I really liked. um like guy the same By this filmmaker named Sam McIntosh.
00:43:49
Speaker
I think that's his last name. Fuck me if it's not. But he's fucking great. His movie Metal is fucking hilarious. I think you would dig it a lot. Okay. um But yeah, you're going to be there. So hopefully you can see. Yeah, I will watch it. Yeah, I'll be there. There's a lot of, you know, but we also focus on getting the local films like we on. So so it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Friday is Jesus Christ Superstar. That's the whole day is like they have a whole setup, the people that run that movie.
00:44:16
Speaker
But we're showing Jesus Christ Superstar. um It's like their final tour run of ah with Ted Neely, the guy who plays Jesus Christ. um And he's going to be there and all that stuff. They have like a whole setup. So it's kind of like they're kind of doing their thing, but we're it's through our promotion yeah of Temecula Valley Film Festival.
00:44:33
Speaker
So we don't have anything else besides that. Saturday is all the short films where we have the audience award winner and the jury winner. It's going to be part of the Saturday blocks. We have six blocks.
00:44:44
Speaker
Mm-hmm. um And yeah, there's a lot of dope films, i in my opinion, and a lot of good ones. And then Sunday is a short day, but we have like um we're going to show the audience winner and the jury award winner. And then we'll have a block of like local um filmmakers. There's local filmmakers on Saturday, but just like more local filmmakers um that aren't part of the competition on Sunday and just kind of, you know.
00:45:09
Speaker
show them their, their upcoming filmmakers and stuff like that. So that's Sunday. It's really short day, but it's a long block. So, yeah. So Saturday is like, but that's the main event of the sense of like competition.
00:45:22
Speaker
Those are the short films that are up for the jury award and audience award. Has that already been decided before the day or how does that kind of work? um The audience is decided that night because we were tallying up point points and and ah scorecards.
00:45:39
Speaker
So that's decided at that that night. The jury award is a new thing. We didn't have that prior. This is like a new thing for this year. we we're We're basically me and Jeremy selected our top three films. Mm-hmm.
00:45:51
Speaker
And then we're going to give it to certain people that are like filmmakers of, I would say like more successful than us. You know, like ah one of them is Isham Nelms is going to be a jury um part of the jury. And he made, he made that movie fat man with Mel Gibson.
00:46:07
Speaker
He made small talk crimes with John Hawks, Clifton Collins, Jr. Octavia Spencer. He's did this new, his newest movie is red right hand with orland Orlando Bloom. It's on Hulu. So he's going to be a judge.
00:46:19
Speaker
um and then uh i think we're got some other people but it's not officially we don't have everything officially with the judges but he's one of the judges for sure so it's a jury and an audience award so we're gonna send them those six films and they're gonna tell us what the winner is you know so we kind of have a part but we're not making the final decision and a part of it and the the one that you guys are coming down to right We got to go yeah Saturday.
00:46:44
Speaker
Saturday's ah the big day. That's like the... When do we get drunk and have fun with the other filmmakers? I want to know about that. That's on Saturday. When do we to party with you guys? Saturday. Because I want a party with Saturday is all the short films. Then we got a great spot after the festival called The Daisy.
00:46:59
Speaker
It's like an out... out it's inside and outdoors so it's got a lot of like room it's really good spot we had but we had it last year and it was like fucking killer it was the first night um and then the second night we had another spot in old town temecula which was fine but the first spot the daisy was the spot so we're making that the saturday night because we went to uh green jack film festival up at a big bear it's a local film festival and um And we were the best audience members, that's for sure. You think so?
00:47:30
Speaker
I mean, out of the... I talked to everybody. Yeah. Did I tell you guys about this time? Just recently? I blacked out during that festival. Oh, yeah Stephen did black out. Oh, nice. Some great films, by the way.
00:47:45
Speaker
Nice. I loved it. I want to go back. We're going to go back this year. What's it called? Green Jack Film Festival. Green Jack. No, it's the Big Bear Festival now. Big Bear. That's why it's in September. Big Bear is not that far from Tenecula.
00:48:00
Speaker
You got to come up maybe because we got super drunk and we just watched all these weird movies. We're thinking of getting a cabin. so Okay. When is that festival going? It's this month. It's sometime this month. Yeah.
00:48:12
Speaker
How many days is it? We're going to only go for one day. I don't know. almost got a fight with one of the guys because I was like, really? Oh, yeah. You don't remember that? No, I was fucking. I blacked out.
00:48:23
Speaker
Well, it was all good times. I mean right i got a leak. I got to take a fucking. You go for it, dude. You go take your piss. You almost fought someone. Yes. At the big.
00:48:34
Speaker
Tell me about it. Big Green Jack el me Film Festival. I remember we were drinking and it was like. This guy was on stage playing guitar and he was like asking. You fought with that guy? Yeah. And I was like, dude, let's go, bitch.
00:48:49
Speaker
Why? Because he was a fucking asshole. What was he doing? He was singing song or something. You guys suck. You guys suck. All I know is there weren't. What was he singing that pissed you off?
00:49:05
Speaker
Everything. He was the one that did the Pauly Shore film with. No, tell me, what did he say that like? Hold on. He did. He made. Look, at we got kids in here.
00:49:18
Speaker
Fruit snack. Fruit snack. OK, get out of here. No, no, but dude. No, no, stop it, buddy. Hey, man.
00:49:30
Speaker
I'm really i really want to do the Green Jack thing, buddy. yeah me too Me too. If we can get... No, man.
00:49:40
Speaker
I'll give you some mushrooms. Did you try those out? Have you tried those out? Get over here. Tried out any of the shrooms i gave you. here. here.
00:49:51
Speaker
Come here.
00:49:56
Speaker
Well, everyone's left. Hey, Quinn. Quinn. Hi, baby. Both Stevens have left. I'm very high and drunk.
00:50:08
Speaker
Trying to keep it together. i think i'm doing OK. ah hope you're doing OK. Apologies for the horrible lip sounds. Just now, but.
00:50:20
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I'm all alone. I've been abandoned by both of my Stevens. Where did they go? i do not know, but.
00:50:29
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Ah, there's Steven.
00:50:33
Speaker
are gonna Man, I'm so happy you came up, buddy. I know, dude. it's like what It's been over a year, huh? Or like about a year, almost? At least. Since we first met or talked.
00:50:47
Speaker
you know We've talked about... It's been a ah i feel like almost a year. It's probably been a year. we know Well, I know that. So Stephen watched Director's Cut. Yeah.
00:50:59
Speaker
And he sent it to me and I watched it. i remember. That was 2024. So it's been like about a year. Probably. And. But Stephen, man, you know, I think it's man it's so admirable. all the shit you do for the Temecula Film Festival.
00:51:19
Speaker
I honestly am. I'm so excited. It all takes place in one theater. One theater, yeah. the what the What is the name of the theater? um Temeku Cinemas. That's the theater. Temeku?
00:51:34
Speaker
Yeah. Tristone Temeku Cinemas. Yeah, it's a local theater. So how did you talk to the owners? Are you? Yeah, yeah, we're good with the... Really, we we were in contact with the GM and the manager. The owner is cool with us having it They kind of handle everything, the GM and the manager.
00:51:51
Speaker
And they're really cool. Kevin and Dylan, they're great. Like I said, third year. they were They were also very down for it, which is awesome. So Kevin and Dylan, do they show...
00:52:06
Speaker
They own the the film, the theater, I'm guessing. They're the GM and the manager. They don't own theater, but they're the, besides the owner, they're the highest ranks. um Kevin, really deal with Dylan more because he's the the manager.
00:52:20
Speaker
um or maybe he's the GM, and then Kevin is like the events, part of the operations of events or something like that. um But ah yeah, we work with them the most, and they've been very supportive and very fucking cool about it.
00:52:35
Speaker
So throughout the year, do they show any other... Do they show older films? Do they have events? They some classic rich on retro nights, but they're mostly... They're like a six theater. ah It's a local theater. It's only six screens.
00:52:48
Speaker
They do, like, you know, first-run movies. Like, they you know, you're not really going to see most of the indie films there, you know, unfortunately. But... um but they make it up by doing our festival. You know, you're getting a lot of indie stuff in there, you know? Yeah, absolutely. um But that theater used to be like a second run theater of movies and they would, you know, show a lot of more, a lot of classic stuff.
00:53:10
Speaker
um But it was like the cheap theater, you know, where it'd be like three to five bucks to watch a movie there. But then COVID happened, fucked them over. And I think they were planning to do that anyways, but COVID made it happen sooner where they had to renovate to be a first run theater. Yeah.
00:53:26
Speaker
So they the recliner seats and everything. Wow. Okay. I mean, I think that's, that's something special because i mean, how many really theaters are there in there? Temecula.
00:53:40
Speaker
Temecula. I mean, that's not, this can happen. That's not corporate. It's that's the only one. All the other ones are very corporate. Just ignore the tears.
00:53:52
Speaker
Wow. Once you said I'm like, that's all I could hear. I'm like, rush. But it is it's the only theater that's ah local. That's like mom and pop. You know, all the other theaters there in Temecula are AMC, Regal, and ah Reading Cinema, which is like still corporate.
00:54:11
Speaker
So do you have to like compete with them? I mean, not for the festival, you know? like The regular theater, yeah, competes with them, but they're the cheapest pricing, so that's always good.
00:54:23
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And they do first-run movies. Because, you know, it's interesting, when you mentioned the Revival House or whatever, um and we kind of had that theater out here a little bit. You you remember the AMC that was off Central?
00:54:39
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, that's cool. They used to show, like, Legit movies. It did not last, man. and Like legit older movies or just like... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:51
Speaker
And I remember telling Tom and I got in an argument with someone on YouTube where I was like, dude, literally every single screening in a theater that was local to me was Marvel.
00:55:05
Speaker
There was no other movie showing. And he was like, no, no, no, no it wasn't all Marvel. I was like, no, I don't even live that far out. I'm here in California in the high desert. Every single screen is a Marvel film.
00:55:22
Speaker
What's my point? My point is like. Point is we need to make more mid-budget independent films. I mean like can that really survive outside of L.A.? I think it can. don't think it has, though. like i think I think a lot of filmmakers have tried to expand it further south. And if they've never accomplished that. up because like I mean, you know, like what's what's in San Diego? What theater is in San Diego? And it's like there should be something out there. I just think that. Look, there's some places that it's not going to flourish, but I think yeah ah most of the places it would do good if it's given the proper care and attention to.
00:56:04
Speaker
You know what I mean? I don't think so. I don't know, Stephen. i mean I think there's places that it will just die in, but I feel like in my community in Temecula, it could survive. i would say there was a point where I believed that was true and then Trump got elected.
00:56:19
Speaker
No, i I think it's all about, like, first of all, if you're going to do a revival house in a place that hasn't been tapped with any revival houses, you can't go in there showing eight and a half.
00:56:31
Speaker
If I'm being honest. You got to start with the greatest hits. Like, ah maybe... um Jaws. No, ah ah Davis Fincher, ah fight club Fight Club. Yeah, like Jaws, Fight Club, like the greatest hits. Like movies, Robocop, movies that are gonna, man, are kind of like, they're mainstream, but they're fucking great artistic piece of cinema, you know?
00:56:54
Speaker
Um... And you got to start with the greatest hits if you're going to really blow a revival house, you know? And because it's never going to be more than a fucking corporate theater movie theater.
00:57:06
Speaker
So, but you want to keep it alive in a flow and making it profit. You got to start with but great it sits And you've got to give them something that they can't get at home. Which is what? Which is 35mm film projection. oh you can't get that here we go You can't get that at home. Where can you get that? You can't get it at home.
00:57:24
Speaker
And what you're doing is you're giving people an experience of the past. Of what the majority... Because digital projection is still in its infancy. But I think that's just so...
00:57:37
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Like, you and I love that. I think... Here's the thing. I think you convert people to love it because it could feel... I'm telling you, the flicker effect is a real psychological thing. I'm telling you, I love it.
00:57:51
Speaker
It's all about getting people to go see it. But that's what I'm saying. You have to do the greatest hits. So people are like, oh, going... And then they find out. but But I see it at my local AMC. Like, my local AMC, literally. AMC Theaters, which is right next to me, they do the...
00:58:07
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ah Ghibli Ghibli. Yeah, Studio Ghibli. You know? And... Like I said, it's going to die in some places and some places it's going to flourish. Because Tom asked earlier and he was like, what about all films? And I saw Shin Godzilla.
00:58:24
Speaker
Because they did it in 4K. I was trying to see it with you and Karen wasn't telling me a time when I was free. So I thought I was watching the kids all day and all night. And then like it opened up in the evening where I could watch it. And it sucked. It fucking sucked.
00:58:39
Speaker
The Shin Godzilla 4K sucks. You know why? Because Shin Godzilla should not be seen in 4K. Because you don't want to see that at high def. Because it's not good.
00:58:50
Speaker
And also the subtitles sucked. I've seen better subtitles for Shin Godzilla. That sucks. but But I feel like, like I'm saying, you've got to promote like a revival house with something different than what you get at the corporate movie theaters. But what I'm saying is like literally...
00:59:09
Speaker
We're kind of like that prime pocket and no one wanted to see anything other than Avengers films. Like literally, was just- If you go with The Greatest Hits, it's got a good shot.
00:59:22
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If you go with like Jurassic Park, you go for Jaws, you go for Indiana Jones, you go for Ghostbusters, Pulp Fiction. i Like you get those movies. I thought so, you know? Like I thought so and then Trump got elected.
00:59:32
Speaker
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? All right, guys, let's do some trivia. No, but what i'm but what I'm saying is like, I i thought I understood what people would like. Yeah, I mean, it was the complete opposite. You can't try to don't try to compare film with with politics because it's not going to make any sense. All right, well, then let me ask you. Let me ask you.
00:59:52
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Top three films budding cinema should show to get younger crowds into an older movie.
01:00:02
Speaker
Three movies that are older to get younger generations a movie? Yeah, yeah. It'd be like, hey, you like this film? Well, guess what? This film actually exists. Like, just to get them interested. not Not to, like, be like, hey, this is the best because Tokyo Story is not yeah yeah anywhere touching that.
01:00:20
Speaker
And that might be the best film ever made. I am i i think ah Boogie Nights is one. that can Boogie Nights? Yeah, Boogie Nights. Okay. like it i don't I don't know who couldn't watch that movie and be... and get some type of exhilaration. But like for general audiences, like, come on. I mean, if you're not a prude, okay, if you want something more for everybody because of the topic. Yeah, for everyone. Yeah, yeah, come on.
01:00:45
Speaker
Jaws. I mean, yeah, that's an obvious one, but I'm trying to pick something that's not. But you got to go obvious for a general audience. I mean, Pulp Fiction is always a great one. Yeah. You can't go wrong because yeah it's not too like, it's not dealing with por pornography, but it's also like definitely, it's pushing. about it in What about Nolan? I always thought Nolan was the all Memento is a great one. Memento. No, Nolan.
01:01:11
Speaker
You can do Memento. So we have Tarantino for what? You can do any Tarantino film and get like from the Tarantino for what? Pulp Fiction? Probably that'd be the best case. Thank you. Jesus. Or Kill Bill.
01:01:23
Speaker
No. What about who would not want to who would what generation could not like Kill Bill? Yeah. But Pulp Fiction is just. Yeah. I think that's maybe like a safe if you're trying to go older. No, but yeah. Anyone can watch Pulp Fiction and be like, I think. and Yeah. I guess in a way that's fair. But I think also Kill Bill's close because it's so visually dynamic. Yeah.
01:01:43
Speaker
You can't get bored of that movie. um Another one would be let me even older. What's another one? ah Taxi Driver, I think is a great one. We haven't named the oldest one.
01:01:55
Speaker
Psycho. Psycho. Yeah. Yeah. Psycho would be a good one. If you're trying to go classic, classic. Yeah. Oh, I know you like Psycho 2 better than Psycho. think Psycho 2. If you could do a triple feature, you know, Psycho 1, 2, and 3. That's the way you get them involved, That's how get them and you're getting a franchise. Oh, and they do a Psycho marathon where it's like. Well, that's what I'm saying. God, you're making me sad because this doesn't exist in my hometown of a revival Dude, it doesn't exist anywhere in our hometown. Just besides L.A., dude. What you got going does not exist. By the way, i was you know there's a guy who runs Daniel Maggio. I think i'm pronouncing his last name right. But he's ah he's a talented filmmaker. He's got a film playing at the festival, Temecula Valley Film Festival. Yeah.
01:02:38
Speaker
But he also runs the Hemet Film Festival, which is like 30 minutes away from Temecula. no maybe 40 45 max um but i go to it and he his his the where he holds it at it's like an old historic theater that's one screen you know what i mean oh that's so it has that revival house thing and i brought it up to him you know like what do you think if the owners would be down to like make that into a fucking revival like those guys have a fucking gold mine in hem it and They can make that into a 35 millimeter projected revival house.
01:03:09
Speaker
But I brought it up to him and he says, like, I don't know if they'd be interested in that. I'm just like, fuck, those guys have a fucking gold mine in there or a potential gold mine. Well, I'm sure Tom might have asked you this, but like, what makes it into your film festival?
01:03:26
Speaker
So Saturday is like, it's three days, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Saturday. Friday is like usually a feature film. And today we have, and this year we have a Jesus Christ superstar.
01:03:38
Speaker
So who it's like a movie from 1975. Yeah. Yeah. that's That's one of my mom's favorite films. Yeah, so the guy who plays Jesus, Ted Neely, he's going to be there and everything.
01:03:49
Speaker
It's the last year they're doing like screenings of it, apparently, because he's going to retire officially or something like that. shit, dude. So he's going to be there. They have a whole setup, and they're kind of controlling that. So Friday's kind of set up for star...
01:04:01
Speaker
jesus christ superstar star Yeah, it's usually a feature film of whatever, maybe indie or not. Saturday is all the short films that are in competition. Yeah. And are eligible for the audience and the jury award, which is where the first year we're doing like a judge's jury award.
01:04:17
Speaker
Okay. So that's the day you guys should come is on Saturday. Can we be on the jury? possibly yeah he took a B if you guys want to we only have right now we've only locked in one person if you guys are serious we'll be the jury basically what we're doing is we'll send we'll send our top three films yeah and then you guys decide out of those six films which one you prefer I'd do that yeah okay well that's cool okay so we have one person officially tell them where where we made dickhead yeah I'd be like, they're indie filmmakers. Okay, that's all I've been. No, you guys, the thing is, you guys have strong opinions, which that's what's good, you know?
01:04:58
Speaker
Strong like Samson with hair. So, thm we only have one official jury grand jury judge right now. So, I mean, i'm told I'll tell my buddy Jeremy, who's the other person that does the film program with me and a co-founder, to be like, hey, these guys are down. Let's send them the Film Freeway link. we will. would be so down. So it'll be three. It'll be total of six movies. We'll watch them.
01:05:22
Speaker
Yeah. And those are the ones that we personally, we picked as like our yeah it's not strongest. And if they all suck, you pick the one you hate the least. So so what you guys when someone submits a film to your festival, is it screened or is it like, it's through film freeway. Like you, you skip through it.
01:05:41
Speaker
i watch you get i i I watch them all. I watch them from beginning to end. Um, um yeah, I watch them from beginning to end. There may have been like a few that I skimmed little bit because i'm like, this is rough. you know But the majority, I watch them from beginning to end and don't skip anything. there's been Most of them I don't skip at all. I'd be lying if I said it didn't skim through some.
01:06:04
Speaker
No, yeah, there's a lot of shit movies. I'm watching and I'll skim through it, but the majority, I'll ill i'll i'll sit through it and and suffer through some. you know And some, obviously, not suffer. Yeah. Usually when I see the runtime and it's like, fuck dude, 30 minutes, I'm like, fucking kill me. This better be fucking good. you kind there's only what There's one movie that was like 30 minutes that was actually, I thought, really fucking great and it's in the festival called Heart of Stone. i told you, Naomi Rappis is in it from the original Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
01:06:36
Speaker
That one was like, okay. Sorry. The lady from... ah Girl with a Drain Tattoo, the original. No, he'd never seen that. Oh, lamb. Lamb. No, uh... la no ah ah
01:06:51
Speaker
Come on, you cut everyone off, motherfucker. Oh, Alien Covenant. cut Not Covenant. Romulus. No, Prometheus. Prometheus. The girl in Prometheus, the main girl. is Who the fuck was the main chick from Prometheus? Naomi Rapace. Rapace. Rapace. Something like that. There were his motherfuckers dead.
01:07:09
Speaker
She's the one that remembers she goes in there she gets the alien baby out of her stomach. to She's like, I'm going to cut it out. I'm the only one who's smart yeah enough. Yes, she's in this movie called Heart of Stone. It's really good, but it's 30 minutes. And it was like, that was one of the movies I liked the most. But like I don't really like long, short films personally. From a festival standpoint, it's 30 minutes. like That's rough because yeah that means it's taking up time slots. we I think each block is like usually like an hour and 15.
01:07:37
Speaker
We try not to exceed an hour and 15. What's the sweet spot then for a short films? The max, I think the sweet pop for being the longest, I think 10 minutes. 10 minutes? Yeah, 10 minutes.
01:07:49
Speaker
If it's a 10 minute film or lower, i like I have a smile on my face. So personally if that 10 minutes thing incorporates like credits. Because if you could make a short film short and get your point across, that's a fucking very good skill.
01:08:05
Speaker
Fuck. I think 15 minutes is like, that's the longest I prefer. yeah But I think if you're 10 minutes or less, I think that's the best. sweet So when it's 10 minutes or less, there's like no credits or anything. There is. Strictly. There is credits. But what I'm saying is it's strictly storyline. That's fitting. It gets quicker into the story.
01:08:25
Speaker
Okay. You know what i mean? They're not doing like some opening credit montage or something like that. Shit, Steven. I ain't sending my shit to you, man. That's all I know. My shit takes like 30 minutes, you know? She got to flush the toilet.
01:08:37
Speaker
i Like short films is a whole nother beast. You got to understand. I think like it's just it's different from feature, you know? No, that that's awesome to hear you say because. um Well, you're you're running a festival, so. Yeah.
01:08:53
Speaker
You see a lot of the stuff, you know, people want to get shit into you. I was telling Tom that this is the first year that like I didn't have to scout so hard for movies, which was nice.
01:09:05
Speaker
Dude, every time i talk to you, you're like, yeah, I talk his soul and soul and soul. I was like, okay, Stephen's our friend. He's our good friend. Dude, you reach out, man. but But is that part of the film festival aspect for you is that you're like constantly trying to like dip your hands further and further and see who you can get? I view it as like, especially in the beginning, because we're still new. where This is barely our third festival. So I'm like, I'm like, I look at it as like a fucking ah scouting, a sports scout.
01:09:37
Speaker
yeah i mean I'm looking for fucking movies to show and that I feel like aren't going embarrass us. Movies I find like quality and entertainment in. What are some of the movies that you found that would contribute to that aspect? I was mentioning ah this one called Blue Diamond by Sam Fox, which is like comedy horror.
01:09:58
Speaker
um She's been in all three years. She's a great filmmaker. Yeah. um And then ah one called Metal by this guy Samuel McIntosh. um that's that' That's a good one. That's a unique one.
01:10:12
Speaker
It's about this guy who's chained up and he's like in a metal fucking mask. and it's like He gets a day out in the suburbs. you know oh it's It's fucking great. It's fucking great. And he shoots it well.
01:10:24
Speaker
yeah um That sounds intense. And then, like I said, that Heart of Stone one, which deals with like people who pose as those like statues. and That was a good one. That was a long one. um But then there's ah this Jallo-inspired one. There's just funny like sci-fi comedy one called Daddy's Boy. you know There's like so there's there's like some nice nice... We got nice categories here, i feel like. A nice, ah good amount of films.
01:10:49
Speaker
How hard is it to keep your bias out of... that it's it is it is hard when you're there's certain people you know that's a man because you're like fuck like i'm gonna try and but you know what this year we did something good like like friends or something yeah there's some people that you know but like honestly like like there's this one guy daniel maggio who submitted this like the great great great great granddaughter of beethoven fucking hilarious short Are you serious? Yeah. So fucking good, dude.
01:11:16
Speaker
So fucking good. Really good. We just talked about this. This guy's talented as hell. Holy shit. His name's Daniel Maggio. um And ah he had one last year, but this year he was submitted his new one. It's fucking, it's great. He's really well done. He's a local guy. He's the one that does the Hemet Film Festival.
01:11:35
Speaker
Wow. And he's he's he's he lives in LA, but he's originally from Hemet. Yeah. You know? um But he's great. And It's great that it's like I don't have to fucking turn down a local filmmaker. Well, I know you were some that like you know well i know you were talking to Sean Baker and trying to get him into the fest.
01:11:54
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Last year, yeah, yeah. ah Sadly, we couldn't do it. but Well, yeah. I mean, so how how does that reflect on you guys? And then... ah Like, it's nice that he follows our Instagram. That's really fucking cool. He's a really down-to-earth guy. I've talked to him a few times. I still talk to him a few times.
01:12:12
Speaker
um Hopefully, one day I can get, like, a sit-down with him. That'd be great.
01:12:19
Speaker
I mean, the goal is to just figure out filmmaking at its finest.
01:12:29
Speaker
I mean, I don't know. Is that is that hard to like find submissions? Or is it just like... The first the first two years were hard. This the best of this year we're getting.
01:12:39
Speaker
And we're going to showcase this. Or is it like... This year sucked. We're not to showcase any of that. and then no i mean like like How does that work? The first year, heavily me scouting fucking blind or like cold calling or cold emailing or cold messaging people.
01:12:59
Speaker
Because like who the fuck are you? You're fucking first time film festival. You didn't message us? I didn't even know you guys. Oh. You guys also aren't big on social media. Yeah, no. I'm just fucking around. Big. You don't even have an Instagram, Steven, and Tom does, but he's not on it a lot.
01:13:17
Speaker
It's all his dick pics. He is like his last name, Casper, dude. Are you in Vancouver? Wink, wink, wink. Van Hoover. More like, they Hoover my dick.
01:13:30
Speaker
But yeah. Faggot. ah Sorry, Steven. Let's do some trivia. Yeah, like I'm down with whatever. I want to hear about, like, how do I get into your film festival?
01:13:45
Speaker
yeah ah You just submit. You guys, I'd probably hook you up with a code. just so No, dude, I want to get into it your film festival because I fucking succeeded. like No, no, I'd hook you with a code to submit. Now, when you get in, yes or no, there's people that give codes and they submit and they don't get in the festival. Really? Yeah.
01:14:02
Speaker
Like I say, I do scouting, dude. I do scouting. I'm like, hey, like this looks interesting. We'd love for you to submit. Here's a code, 100% free off. so But I don't guarantee they're going to be in the festival.
01:14:13
Speaker
So when you tell someone no, like how does that go? Did you just write a generic email? Yeah, we wrote a man we wrote an email that we feel like is like... satisfying enough and it goes out to the people that didn't make it do it do you ever reach out to like people who who like didn't make it but you're like hey I have in the beginning like the first year're like hey it was like we really like it's not up to me because it is kind of like a committee feel a little more special yeah so There's been a few people, you know, and some of them that didn't make it in that first year, they're in it this year, you know?
01:14:45
Speaker
So at the end of the day, I don't ever feel bad because I've been rejected from film festivals, so I don't feel bad, really. Well, if you're rejected from anyone, we'll kill them. Yeah. But yeah, um but I was telling Tom that like this every year has been less of me scouting.
01:15:04
Speaker
So first year we had like maybe like 60 movies. What do you mean the is less of scouting? Like me going to people and DMing them and or emailing them be like, hey, submit our film. Here's a code. and butson Are you excited about any of the films coming out?
01:15:20
Speaker
for this yeah every year i have been but this year yeah there's a like i said the ones that i mentioned i'm excited for like there's a lot there's more you know but uh but um there's plenty to be excited about but you haven't seen them so i have seen them i'm the one that does the film programming okay yeah so i've seen all i saw all the submissions so if they don't make meet your criteria they're just out Yeah, we we only do one day of short films. We do like a local thing on Sunday, but Saturday of the in-competition, yeah, it's limited. If we had more days, then more films would be made. there There's literally films that were like, damn, this is not a bad film and didn't make it.
01:15:59
Speaker
Really? This is a good film and it didn't make it. Because because we only have a time slot. Because of the run time? It just doesn't make Sometimes that affects it. Run time affects it sometimes. You kind of got to weigh it out.
01:16:11
Speaker
Quality, run time, it's everything. oh It's fucking tough, dude. And you feel like, I feel like a fucking asshole sometimes. No, no, no, you shouldn't. I like that movie, but why would if it would have been maybe like three minutes shorter and maybe would have made it a cut. Yeah. Do you ever tell them like, hey. No, no. i What's that going to do them? You know, it's like, that's not going to do them any good. Just give them the generic email that we put thought in, in the email. But it's the one that goes to the manses masses. But you never say like, you know, if maybe you could have trimmed it 30 minutes shorter. By the time we send it, it's like too late. It's not going to do them any good. Oh, wow. Like, you know what I have talked to some filmmakers and been like, hmm. Like, yeah.
01:16:50
Speaker
I liked your movie, but other people were kind of against it. And I couldn't get it in there. Yeah, like it's a committee. It's not just me. How does that go? You know, it's like. Is it confrontational? No, no. i mean like this Like I said, this one guy, Noah, he's in the festival this year, but he wasn't in it the first year.
01:17:06
Speaker
And he was he was he was fine with it. Yeah, but I was up front. wasn't like being like. Yeah, you're just. I was like, hey, bro, this what happened. He didn't lose any money, so I don't really feel too crazy about it. Yeah. You know? I give him a hut fucking free code to ce submit.
01:17:22
Speaker
Well. Because I liked his short. You know what mean? But where you're at, like, does money doesn't matter, right? Like, it's just like. Yeah, really right now, we're real we're really trying to get the. The of film, right? Yeah, exactly. We're trying to get the film to be established and be respected.
01:17:37
Speaker
And at the end of the day, it's quality over. Because you were naming some films last year that you wanted to get, like, Nora. Yeah. Yeah. And that was kind of like, I was shocked how far we even got with that.
01:17:51
Speaker
Honestly, I was just throwing it. I was kind of like, it doesn't hurt to message Sean Baker. Yeah. If he doesn't respond, that's kind of what I expected. He doesn't, you know, like me, why would he want to be in this fucking first year, second year festival? You know what i mean? Yeah. So he did way more than he needed to personally. Oh, dude, that's so cool, man.
01:18:09
Speaker
Yeah. That's so fucking cool. He won it. All the Oscars. Exactly. and It was fucking... like Tom's all fucked up. I know. Tom's like, let's fucking film something right now. I'm like, let's do some fucking trivia and wrap this shit up. Let's do it.
01:18:29
Speaker
Let's do it. There's a film coming out. um The Green Jack Festival.
01:18:38
Speaker
Let's fucking do it, man. We're going. they They'll accept anything. Hell yeah. yeah but Let's not send dickhead. But let's see. Grab grab your cards, buddy.

Film Trivia and Playful Engagement

01:18:50
Speaker
Yeah, we're... Oh, they're right here. Let's see the trick. I need a beer. That was pretty fun.
01:18:57
Speaker
Tom is faded. yeah I'm like, what why did I take so much? The edibles got you, huh? I took more. I took more. I took more. Oh, you did? i didn't see you do that. Also, I think we drank this whole bottle of wild turkey. Oh, almost my God. Dude, when this... while when i came in the show was up here It was brand new bottle. I just bought it a couple hours ago.
01:19:20
Speaker
you guys are so that's you guys are wild. Yeah, we're ah professional alcoholics, that's for sure.
01:19:29
Speaker
I'm ready to do some questions. That's absolute. I'm ready. Audience, are you ready for some trivia? We're finally going to do it.
01:19:42
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Hard questions. Even questions.
01:19:46
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me Let me shuffle these because I feel like don't want to get the same ones. Go ahead. Shuffle away. I'm going to shuffle as well.
01:19:58
Speaker
and then we'll do that we should do again We should do a commentary tonight if you're down. I'm down, man. Watch something. well watch something yeah we It could be the Breakfast Club. Hey, this guy's never seen the Breakfast Club, he told me.
01:20:12
Speaker
ah pizza he's never seen yeah that's i was I was talking to him earlier like I'm fucking the munchies are kicking in alright you have cards right there buddy yeah I got my cards Tom's like let's get to the fucking trivia let's do some fucking trivia let's do some trivia bro grab your cards let's test knowledge I got my card man um there's two questions per card per card per card um I got my cards.
01:20:45
Speaker
How do you guys want to do this? do you want to do it like...
01:20:53
Speaker
I got cards! i um i wish I wish there was a camera so you could see how fucking blitz Thomas. I drank so much whiskey right now. He's like, I should have taken that edible. Why did I take that extra edible?
01:21:09
Speaker
ah I got cards, motherfucker. How about this? I'm going to ask a question this is just a horror question on the cards wait we're doing just a horror how about we do the all genre one okay give me your cards yeah i think let's mix it up let's do all genres because i feel like we all hear we all like all types of genres oh he's afraid steve is like i'm not a fuck you i'm not i'm not i'm not afraid of horror it's too easy oh i know steven why do you gotta replace me okay You're going to praise me? Okay. I'm an integral part into this podcast.
01:21:45
Speaker
Tom tells me all the time, Stephen, you did a good job. Here you go, buddy. Thank you, buddy.
01:21:53
Speaker
Dude. This is awesome. i love I love doing trivia. I feel like I don't get to do it. A battle of the Stevens. You know what, Stephen? What's up? Every time you meet a Stephen, isn't he an asshole?
01:22:06
Speaker
Right? Okay, so it looks like every other Steven is like... Hey, anyway like it looks like there are... And they'll be like, you'll like him. Nah. I don't like him.
01:22:16
Speaker
there are four flat There are four questions per card. Should we just ask the questions and then if you know the answer, you answer it? Raise your hand if know the answer. whatever. Okay, who wants to start reading?
01:22:32
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All right, I'll read first. What do I read? The question. Who is Brian mistaken for in Monty Python's Life of Brian?
01:22:44
Speaker
Jesus Christ. I don't know. That's not the name. I don't know because I've never, this is a movie that's on my watch list. I've never seen the Life of Brian. Jesus. Nope. Come on. Name it correctly. Moses? Jesus Christ. Moses? The Messiah.
01:23:00
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He fails. Okay. Wait, there's four questions per card. Yeah, there is. Okay. I got to ask them Yeah, ask your four questions. Yeah, all four questions. Okay, you suck. Who plays Ashley Judd's parole officer in Double Jeopardy?
01:23:16
Speaker
Tommy Lee Jones or Harrison Ford? Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford. Fail. No, Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy ho Lee Jones. You both failed. Okay, we failed. What movie... Wait, wait, wait. Should we keep a scorecard? Yeah, I have it. Okay, yeah. Okay, cool. What 80s movie is set in a small town of Beaumont, Oklahoma where dancing has been banned? Footloose.
01:23:39
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Shit. He got it, right? Yeah, he got it. Who plays a possessed cheerleader in Jennifer's body? Jennifer Colleen? Megan Fox? Megan Fox.
01:23:50
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you who got Okay, what happens when you guys all get it? Then we both get points. I'll give them a point. Let's both get points. Okay, I'll read. Are you next? Okay, cool. Now, it's whoever answers first.
01:24:05
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Who directed Blazing Saddles? Mel Brooks. Oh. Well, he got it. He's not drunk enough. I've been drinking. in pre I can't wait to eat that pizza. What does the alien hunter collect?
01:24:21
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goal I missed the question. Steven got it. dan it No, let me let me read it. Let Steven read it. I'm after Tom. i'm ah yeah The social network follows the creation of what social media company? White people, dude. They just take fucking all the questions.
01:24:40
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The social network follows the creation of what social media company? Facebook. He gets the point. Really? Yeah. You got answer for me. What movie sees an ex-con traveling back in time to gather information about a man-made virus?
01:24:57
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Oh, what? Oh. Oh, 12 Monkeys. He gets the point. Fuck. Alright, that's my last question. Steven with a V. Alright, me versus Tom. What superhero film repeatedly breaks through the fourth wall with the audience? Deadpool.
01:25:15
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Man, bro, I didn't finish Which martial arts star has a bit part in Cannibal Run, Jet Li or Jackie Chan? Jackie Chan.
01:25:26
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Who? Jackie tiner Chan. I'm going to give it to Steven because I heard him first. Okay. well You don't even know that motherfucker. In what movie does Burt Reynolds play Porn King Jack Horner?
01:25:39
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Boogie Nights. Yep. What Western on wheels uses over 150 stunt people, including Cricut de Soleil performers, Cirque de Soleil performers, and Olympic athletes? Mad Max Freerode. Yep.
01:25:55
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Dang. Got him. Go ahead, Reid. Reid, your turn.
01:26:01
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That was good. Joe Pesci and Marissa Tomei. Michael Stavini.
01:26:09
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Hey, you that. that's Hey, well done, dude. You haven't even seen that movie. What the fuck? Stardust is based on a... Neil Gaiman. yeah Okay, he got that. Dang, he's on fire.
01:26:21
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True or false, Lord of the Rings Return of the... Return of the King won Best Oscar for Best Picture 20,000. True. true True.
01:26:33
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That's two. That's two of you motherfuckers. Okay, I got him. I got him. True or false, The Exorcist is an adaptation of the Stephen King novel. no False. False.
01:26:46
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That's false. Okay. It's an adaptation, but not Stephen King. You guys got that. well will it William Blatty. William Blatty. You guys got it. Cool. Blatty. All right.
01:26:58
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Your turn, Tom. Stephen versus Stephen.
01:27:04
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what good Are you guys ready? Yeah, I'm ready. What gets stolen from the dude in the Big Lebowski? A carpet! His rug. feel like that's both points. okay I thought I said it first.
01:27:21
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Okay, who played Elliot Ness in the 1987... Kevin Costner. Oh my god. you Damn, buddy. You gotta step it Who played a young Vito Corleone in The Godfather? De Niro.
01:27:37
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Robert De Niro. you gave said the whole name. you give us both that one. Okay. Yeah, give us both that one. He did say the whole name, but said De Niro first.
01:27:48
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Where were the aliens from in H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds? Mars. Steven gets the point. Nice. All right. as long Because I can fucking read your four questions. All right, my four questions.
01:28:02
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This is me and Tom. Who directed the live-action remake of How the Grinch Sold Christmas? oh ah Ron Howard. Correct. Shit, I know that one. In reindeer games, what do the thieves wear to rob a casino? Reindeer masks. What do they wear? a A sixlinger. No.
01:28:27
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Masks. of What do they wear? reindeer games? I don't fucking know. I don't know. Santa masks. A little close. I don't know.
01:28:38
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It's Santa outfits. Oh, fuck you. and Okay. One 90s film stars a death row inmate with supernatural power. Green a mile.
01:28:49
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Yep. In the original Night the Living Dead, seven people are trapped in a rural farmhouse. How many survive? One zero none. Yep. Correct. None.
01:29:00
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um Tom we got that one, bro. All right. He won? Yeah, you got one. go ahead, Steven. All right. The line, Jasmine, you can't fight in here.
01:29:12
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This is the war room. That's Dr. Strangelove. It's from what movie? Dr. Strangelove.
01:29:19
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Dr. Strange. He already got it. Fucking white people just got to talk over everyone, dude. I honestly blanked. I'm not going to lie. Who placed an airline security expert trapped in a hijacked jet and passenger 57?
01:29:32
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fifty seven What? Repeat that. Can you read? That was too many pauses. there a lot Go ahead. and read read read Reread that, please.
01:29:46
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very Who plays an airline security expert trapped on a hijacked jet and passenger 57 Samuel Jackson sinks on a plane
01:29:59
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Oh Tom Jodie Foster flight plan Tom come on No, I'm not right. i Give us a hint.
01:30:09
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Jackie Chan. Wait, say it again. Say it again. Read the question again. who just um him Who plays an airline security expert trapped in a hijacked jet in a passenger 57? Gerard Butler?
01:30:24
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Giant Fat? Damn, don't fucking know this. Skip. Let's go. Give us answer. Wesley Snipes. ah Never even heard of it. What movie? a Passenger 57. Oh, Damn it. I know that movie, too. Why did fucking fuck that up? Go.
01:30:40
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Who directed The Seventh Seal? Oh, Inmar Berman. Inmar Berman. That was the to Tom. Wow. I thought I said that first. Yeah. During what decade was the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers filmed? That's definitely Steven.
01:30:57
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that's definitely stephen
01:31:01
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All right. Yeah. Tom, your turn. Oh, is it? Okay. The Stevens. Okay. What song is the mantra of the Lego universe in Lego movie?
01:31:12
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Everything is awesome. What? Everything is awesome. Steven wins. I said, fuck your fight. Fuck your fight knows. What Christopher Nolan film has the tagline, when 400,000 men couldn't get home, home came for them. Dunkirk.
01:31:28
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Damn, he's beating us by a lot. but Yeah, he's really quick on the names. Emma Thompson won the Best Actress Oscar in 1993 for her role in what movie?
01:31:39
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Emma. No. Emma Thompson. No. Emma Thompson.
01:31:47
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Her name is Emma. We don't know. The piano. Howard's N. Howard's N. Fuck, dude. don't know. was guessing. In what Tim Burton film do Martians attack the Earth? Mars attacks. Mars attacks.
01:31:59
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It goes to Steven with an E. Really? Because I'm just slow in saying words? Yeah, that's right. All right, my turn. Your turn. No, it's me. No, it's been my turn. I got. No, it's my turn. I got.
01:32:10
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God damn. Okay. What is the Pink Panther? It's a diamond. Yeah, it is. It is. That's right. A large pink diamond.
01:32:23
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Okay. What character said. All right. Hold on. I want Steven to be ready. No. Tom did not get that. That's a loss. That's a loss. He said diamond, but it's large pink diamond. Large pink diamond. Does that count? It's a large. No, no. Fucking Steven.
01:32:38
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Okay. No counting. Okay. Okay. Fine. Okay. whatrk What character said, go ahead and make my day. Dirty Harry. Yep. What actor stands on the bow?
01:32:49
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of Titanic and yells I am the king of the world Leonardo DiCaprio really? Jack Leonardo DiCaprio the line here's Johnny is from the signing no you're asking easy questions that's what i got bro get the fuck out of here dude I'm just pulling the next card on top I shoveled them bro alright shining that was all you got no hold on ignore those cards that fell on the floor
01:33:19
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Who played Dorothy? Julie Garland. Who played Dorothy? Julie Garland. Julie Garland. Who got that? Okay, you both got it. Okay. i guess going to sit with a What is Bruce Willis' job in the field element before he did? Taxi driver, taxi driver, taxi driver, taxi driver.
01:33:39
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Talk on talk on it. Have you guys seen the movie Mystery Men? Yes. With Paul Robbins as a spleen. That's exactly what you just said in my ground. who skin know Who's the taxi driver Bruce Willis? He's a taxi driver. I hate you, you son of a bitch.
01:33:58
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all right I love that movie though. There's two more to go. all right ah Before being captured and enslaved, how did Solomon Northup make a living in 12 years of slavery?
01:34:17
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yeah He beat your ass, you racist motherfucker. Matt Damon and Jodie Foster star in what movie about a ravaged space earth and luxurious space habitat?
01:34:31
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The Martian? Come on. Jodie Foster was in that? Come on. What, was it right or no? No, ain't no one right. wait what's question? What's the question? Matt Damon and Jodie Foster star in what movie about a ravaged spaced earth and a luxury space habitat?
01:34:48
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Oh, that's the- Oh, um. Oh. No, shut up. Come on, come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Equilibrium. Equilibrium.
01:34:59
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No, no. Elysium. Elysium. Elysium. Tom got Elysium. I will actually really fucking like that movie. All right. We're tied, bitch. Damn, you're right. Elysium.
01:35:09
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I knew it started with the My turn. Where did the Grinch steal Christmas? Who's still? Okay, that's equal. but what Wild West icon has been played by Kevin Costner, Kurt Russell, and Kurt... Damn! Steven, beat your ass!
01:35:32
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Who plays English teacher in Dead Poets Society? Robin Williams. Damn! Wait, hold on. I got to fucking piss before we continue. Once you break the seal, it's just like a never-ending thing. This team has got loose.
01:35:46
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Let me tell you a secret. this is fun Who plays report John Klein in the oh
01:35:56
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Mothman Prophecies? Richard Gere. Yeah? You think it's Richard Gere? Yeah, no, it is. You're right.
01:36:07
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ah But you better be ready to shout that shit out. Are you ready? No. It's your turn. Oh, i got it I got some good cards for you guys. This one's tough. Who plays the jerk in The Jerk? Steve Martin. Steve Martin.
01:36:24
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Who voices Pikachu in the movie Pikachu Detective Pikachu? Ryan Reynolds.
01:36:32
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What is Dorothy's name last name in the wizard? What the fuck is wrong with you? What top grossly Japanese thriller provided the plotline for The Ring?
01:36:47
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but ah Ringu. You excelled in every step of this way. You know, sometimes I think we're smart.
01:36:57
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We're not.
01:37:00
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I want pizza. Yeah? Yeah. Let's get some pizza. What's some pepperoni? Where do you want pizza from? I got some coupons. I'll order it.
01:37:15
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Damn, is he taking a shit or is he fucking pissing? He's probably taking a shit. You know what?
01:37:21
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Buddy?
01:37:24
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We came up with some good shit, right? You know what I'm saying? and think so. you You think that like the coloring, the sound, that's good?
01:37:37
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I think it's interesting. It's new. Are you happy?
01:37:42
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i mean, I think we did better in the temp, but this is reality. What do you mean better in the temp? Like with better like Hey, you got every source of music available in the world. And yeah that is.
01:37:57
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Well, that's very unfair, right? Yes. That's why what we have is OK. All right. You guys ready? This one. Yeah. Yeah. Tough. Is it my turn or your turn? You and Steven. Steven versus Steven.
01:38:11
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Lost in America stars Julie Haggerty. And what actor? Albert Brooks. Oh, shit. I guess it wasn't that hard. It was not that hard.
01:38:23
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i I'll be honest. i haven't seen that movie, but I know that it's on my watch list. You guys ready? Mm-hmm. What actors films include Kickboxer, Street Fighter? Jean-Claude Van Damme.
01:38:35
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Damn. Do you hear Kickboxer? It's like Jean-Claude. True or false. None of the robbers get out alive in 1995 film Heat. True. False. False. true bo False is correct. Stephen wins. Thank you. like who gets Who gets out of alive? Val Kilmer. Oh, that's right.
01:38:56
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Fuck. Room 237 is a documentary about what movie? The Shining. I'll be honest. i've only seen shiny i'm not he I've only seen it not that many times. like Maybe like five times. You don't get to see it that much.
01:39:10
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All right, Stephen, go ahead. You're all right. Here we go. Tom or Stephen. The pH. Tom's so fucked up. Look at him. I know. I can tell he's fucking. Yeah, he's in it.
01:39:22
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What's 80? What 80s movie sees two con men wager on who can swindle a young Harris out of their money? eight 80s. 80s movie.
01:39:33
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Is that the one with Steve Martin? ah With the Coen brothers that they did a remake? and Lady Killers? Yeah. Incorrect.
01:39:43
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You guys know this movie. is i I know you you guys definitely know this movie. just don't know if you guys are thinking about this movie right now.
01:39:54
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You said lady killers. That's all I could think of. What 80s movie sees two con men wager on who can swindle a young Harris out of her mind? think we lost his word.
01:40:07
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No idea. Dirty, rotten scoundrels. Never seen it. You guys have heard of it though, right? Yeah.
01:40:16
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What film sees a mute cleaner at a high security government lab who falls in love with a humanoid amphibian creature? Oh, that's Color of Water or something like that. Shape of Water. yeah Shape of Water. I'll give it up to Steven. No, you got it. You said the thing right. He copied me, dude. You both get it right. How about that one? Sure.
01:40:39
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What typically comedic actor is the villain in Insomniac? bruce Robert Williams. Yep. Lottery Williams. Oh, yeah. Who directed the original Halloween movie?
01:40:51
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John Carpenter. Yep. Duh. Mark it. All right. Back to Steven.
01:41:03
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umm Honestly, I'm thinking about this pizza this whole time. Is that crazy? No. The line time to cook It from the Delta to the DMZ is from which film?
01:41:17
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Wait, what? Say that again? Apocalypse Now. Time to cook it from the Delta to the DMZ. Apocalypse Now. No. Platoon. No one cared about Apocalypse. Amager Hill.
01:41:31
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I'm blank on this one. Good morning, Vietnam! Another movie that I haven't seen. Okay, how about this one? and Pacific Run... human pacific Humanity builds Japanese to defend Earth from rampaging kaiju.
01:41:51
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What are Jergens' names? What? Jergens? That's what it says? What are Jergens' names? No, it doesn't say that. Oh, fuck, dude. What are Yeagers' names?
01:42:06
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they're like That's their names. They're robots. Gypsy? They're robots. ye Giant robots. Giant robots. Yeagers are giant robots. Okay. okay Gypsy is one of the giant robots.
01:42:19
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No, there's no Gypsy. Okay. Next question. ah Who wrote the book in the screenplay for Gone Girl?
01:42:31
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Jillian Flynn. Wow. Yeah. You got that right. yeah but book you don't know that shit Tom's too faded in the day of the Trilliads who are Trilliads what Trilliads okay finish this day of the what in the day of the Trilliads who are the Trilliads Day of the Trilliads.
01:42:56
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Are you saying that word right? Trilliads? Trilliads. Fuck. you I'm done. This is on you, Tom. Carnivorous Plants. No. What movie is that from? Are you guys ready? Trilliads.
01:43:10
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Fuck, dude. No. Okay. You ready? Yeah. Cary Grant, James Stewart, and Catherine Hepburn star in what classic comedy? I don't know. Philadelphia Story.
01:43:22
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He's right.
01:43:25
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is Okay. What is the code name of the beach in the opening sequence of Saving Private Ryan? Omaha Beach. Damn, Steven, you're retarded.
01:43:42
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In what country are the diamond mines in Blood Diamonds? South Africa? Yeah. No.
01:43:52
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Ghana? who knowzi No. Somalia? No. South and blood diamond? Come on, tell us. Sierra Leone. sir i Yeah, I don't fucking know that area that was Yeah, that's the one that's part of South Africa. Okay, you might get this one, Stephen. Okay.
01:44:13
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What is the name of the spaceport on Tatooine in Star Wars? The spaceport? I'm tattooing? don't fucking i know. don't fucking know. So there's M. Mangua.
01:44:27
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but man why hey i've been i I'm tapping on this one. I don't know. I would have never guessed that. Alright, Steven. Your search turn. Tom versus Stefan.
01:44:41
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Alright, the line, I know who I am. i'm the dude playing the dude disguised another dude. Is from Ben Stiller's comedy.
01:44:52
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Jump the gun with the dude. Come on, dude. I know who I am. I'm the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude.
01:45:03
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Oh, that's Robert Downey Jr. What's the movie? Tropic Thunder. Yep. You give it to both of you guys. Give it to both you guys on that one. Who plays Sherlock in the 2009 film Sherlock Holmes? It's Robert Downey Jr. Yep.
01:45:21
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He got it. It's not Benedict Cumberbatch. No, it's Robert Downey Jr. Oh, fuck. What subject does Richard Dreyfuss teach in Mr. Holland's Elvis? Benedict Cumberbatch.
01:45:33
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Wait, what? What subject does Richard Dreyfuss teach in Mr. Holland's opus? Biggerdip Compromise. History. Nope. I have no idea. Biggerdip Compromise. No.
01:45:45
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Music. In Time Bandits, 11-year-old Kevin takes off with a band of time-traveling what? Dwarves. Dwarves. Oh, come on That was a setup.
01:45:58
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ah give You can give it to Steven too. All right, go. Steven, you're jerk.
01:46:05
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They're dwarves. They were bitches. Sure. All right. They sure were. The line, time to rocket from the Delta to the DMZ is from which film?
01:46:18
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Joint security area? Apocalypse Now. Good morning, America! I heard DMZ, and i was like, don't... Pacific Rim, humanity built Jaegers to defend Earth from... Kaiju.
01:46:31
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Rampaging Kaijus. What are Jaegers? Giant robots. You're reading the same one. got You're reading the same one. Okay, okay, okay. Pick a card. Start picking a new card, bro. All right, all right. Steven's angry. Okay.
01:46:44
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Pick a new car. I was like, wait a second. this saying I heard this, cucksucker. ah Audrey Hepburn plays Holly Golightly in what movie? Breakfast Tiffany's.
01:46:55
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Oh, he beat you, bitch! Okay, guys. And what movie does Jamie Foxx play a flatter all ah former slave who goes... A J.G.L. Chane. I got it right. I got it right already, J.G.L. Chane. Yeah, he did. It's my favorite movie. I got to get that one. Who plays a blind man in A Scent of a Woman?
01:47:13
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ah job draw Al Pacino. Al Pacino. Oh, Steven, beat you again, you little fuck. Okay. Who, what planet does it just start orbit in Return of the Jedi? Tatooine, Dantooine, Alderaan.
01:47:28
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I don't know. Come on. Alderaan. What planet does a Death Star orbit in Return of the Jedi? Oh, in Return of the Jedi? Wiki.
01:47:41
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WikiLeaks. Ewok lane. What having for? I don't know, a dude. Well, you guys give It's with the Ewoks, right? You guys give up? Yeah. Endor, you motherfuckers. Endor. I wouldn't have gotten it. wouldn't have gotten it.
01:47:53
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Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. Okay. After I go... Can we order the pizza? Yeah, I'm so hungry. I'm fucking starving, dude. Who does Eddie Murphy play in Beverly Hills Cop?
01:48:06
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Axel Foley. Oh my God, dude. All right, let's get some pizza. sorry like Fuck going through the questions. Let's get more pizza. We can continue after the pizza. Let's get some pizza.
01:48:20
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We're done. You beat us. All right, buddy. Come on, call it. Cut.