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Our black superhero spotlight continues as we watch Project Power, the recent superhero film from Netflix. There's a new drug on the streets of New Orleans called Power, which gives users superhuman abilities for five minutes. Although billed as a Jamie Foxx and Joseph Gordon-Levitt movie, the real star is Dominique Fishback's performance as aspiring rap artist Robin. Plus, we talk about Zack Snyder's recent absurd statement denying the toxicity of his fandom and gush over episodes 4-5 of WandaVision. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/superherocinephiles/message
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00:00:43
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00:00:55
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00:01:21
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Star Trek Movie Memories

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Word, what you talking? I'm going to go off the top. Give me a word. Oh, you that good, huh? Feline. Feline. I'm about to make a beeline. And every single accolade for spitting about to be mine. I'm going to go from old shit and goodwill to design. I'm going to be rocking Dior like Dion of C-line.
00:02:23
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Or maybe I meant Celine. I'm feeling really Celine. Can someone tell them other boys are what MC is coming? No humming. My name already chose a different bird. I killed you a little freestyle. Give me another word. Give me another word. Seismograph. Dude trying to trip me up with a seismograph. I think it's funny. I can't pick a better time to laugh. I find the path. You don't know all the rhymes I have. The only thing that don't sit well within this mind is math.
00:02:57
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Antibiotic. Antibiotic. I might need an anti-psychotic. I'm going crazy. No little Mamie in this flow. I got it. I been about her, even if my mental space is crowded. I keep it in because a guilty dog unboxed the loudest. My mom's a proudest, and I know that we can make it out if we made it through a flood. I bet we gonna get through the drought, and I may be little, but in these waters, you won't catch me drowning. One day, I'll swim and all them dollar bills I'm gonna be counting.
00:03:27
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Ooh. You smoked that. All right. You're good. Damn good. That's your power. You take that, you leverage that, you use your power to take the system down. All right. What is this? I'm gonna take four of them. This is us for dogs. Yeah, well, you're a big dog.
00:03:56
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Welcome to the Superhero Cinephiles Podcast. I am half your host, Perry Constantine. And on the other half, Derek Ferguson. How you doing today, Derek? I'm doing much better now than I was earlier on in the week. I was telling you, and for you guys at home watching this, you probably know about the big snowstorm we had here in
00:04:19
Speaker
New York and it affected me in a very adverse way. It knocked out my power. I was without power. Internet for about 24 hours. Damn nuisance, I'll tell you. Damn nuisance. So yeah, but everything is fine. So we're doing good. Thank you. Awesome. Yeah. I'm doing pretty well over here. Got my
00:04:44
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co-pilot next to me here. She's been pretty calm, so that's good. We have to start listing her as a co-host. We are. I was thinking just before we started, she's now been a guest on more podcasts than most adults. Yeah, exactly. She was on the podcast we do what we was doing. Exactly, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, we got to start giving her a credit. Yeah.
00:05:10
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But anyway, got some news going around. First, you know, some sad news. Christopher Plummer died. Yeah, yeah. 91 years old. Matter of fact, after we finished watching this, I've got Star Trek, The Undiscovered Country. Oh, that's such a good movie. And the Blu-ray player, I'm going to watch that tonight. And of course, my wife, The Sound of Music, that's her favorite movie.
00:05:35
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So, you know, I think she was watching it yesterday. You know what? Because I haven't seen that movie since I was like a little kid, right? And it wasn't until he died that they're talking about, you know, his roles and they mentioned sound and music. I'm like, oh, wait, yeah, he wasn't sound and music. I completely I just never made that connection because I was so young when I saw it. Yeah, I mean, and that's the movie.
00:05:59
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he'll be remembered for. But for the longest time, he wouldn't talk about that movie. Oh, really? Yeah. He said he just wouldn't talk about it. But, you know, as he got older and he saw what it meant to people, he kind of embraced it and he said, OK, yeah. And he started talking about it. I remember Alec Guinness was like that with Star Wars. Yeah. Alec Guinness. Yeah. For the longest time, he wouldn't because he just thought it was a little nothing thing that nobody would remember. I remember one.
00:06:24
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one story I think it might have been apocryphal but he some kid asked him to sign like an Obi-Wan picture or action figure or something and he said to him he's like look I'll sign this only if you promise to never watch those movies again yeah yeah yeah it was uh oh but again you know it's as a creative person I have come to understand and you too as well and other people that we know
00:06:52
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Once you create something or once you appear in a movie or a song or something like that, it's out of your hands, really, because you don't know how the public is going to react to it. There's stuff that I've written that I said, oh, yeah, well, I know people are going to love this. And it's crickets and tumbleweeds. And then there's other stuff that people are constantly asking me about that I said, really? You just never know. But if you can be remembered for that,
00:07:19
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You know, I guess finally Chris's performance said, well, you know something, it's better to be remembered for something than not to be remembered at all. Exactly. Yeah. Although he's got a great body of work to be remembered for anyway. Oh, absolutely. I mean, perfectly respectable. Matter of fact, if I said that, it's hard for me to think of a bad movie he was in.
00:07:37
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Yeah. Yeah. He was very good at picking, you know, his projects and his roles that he was in. I mean, I haven't seen all of his movies, but out of the ones that I've seen, I can't ever really point to it and say, well, you know what? That was a terrible movie, you know? Right. Yeah. And he was one of those actors that just elevated whatever he was in anyway. Yes. Yeah. He made it better. Yeah. Yeah. Like you mentioned, you know, Star Trek VI, like he
00:08:05
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took he took that that that what that movie is is it's it's a much better movie just by his very presence. Oh, yeah, we have going around strutting around quoting all the Shakespeare and everything like that. And yeah, you know, he gives it a very, he gives it a very Shakespearean, operatic feel, right? Yeah. You know, when he's on the screen, you know, you can't take guys off. I mean, everybody talks about Wrath of Khan, but for my money, I think undiscovered country is my favorite of those movies.

Zack Snyder and Toxic Fandoms

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Yeah, Undiscovered Country is the movie I'm glad that the original cast went out on. Mm-hmm. Because previous to that, we had the final frontier. And we all know how everybody feels about that.
00:08:46
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But the undiscovered country, if you gotta go out, that's the way to go out. Exactly, yeah. And you know what, I've got, cause I got a box set years back of the original cast movies. So it's, you know, one through six. And five is actually the only one I've never watched is cause everybody's like, it's so terrible. So I've just skipped over five. Well, you know what? Okay. Here's the thing about five. If you've seen the original series to me,
00:09:14
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The far frontier is a lot like the TV show. It's like a two hour episode. It's the one that feels the most like.
00:09:24
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the TV show, you know, because every once in a while, you know, the original series would throw in like this little comedy episode. Right, yeah, yeah. And that's what this is pretty money. But I do have my problems with it. Well, I mean, Four was a comedy one too, but that was a lot of fun.
00:09:46
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Yeah, and it was actually funny. When I read the back of it, I'm like, oh God, this sounds terrible. And then I watched them like, this is actually pretty entertaining. Yeah, it's pretty good. And you know what, Star Trek always got to have, you know, throwing like a time travel. Well, DeForest Kelly, especially in that was just hilarious.
00:10:06
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I love the scene when he's in the hospital. That's exactly. And he's going in there and he's saying, oh my God, what is this, the Stone Age? And he's going around giving out pills and he's curing cancer and growing new kidneys and lungs. They talk about chemotherapy. He's like, chemotherapy? Are you insane? And he's ranting and raving and carrying on, oh my God. Do you want to kill this patient? And he's killing people with M&Ms. Yeah, yeah.
00:10:35
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And then they get there and say, look, she, oh, well, she just regrew her kidneys. Oh, he's fantastic. Matter of fact, he steals that entire movie. He does, yeah. I don't remember anything about that movie except for the hospital scenes.
00:10:51
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I mean, that's his movie from Star Trek. When he goes to Kirk and he says, well, wait a minute, you want to go to the future, get some whales, bring them back and hope they tell us where to go and what to do. He said, well, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's it's.
00:11:12
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But number, okay, but going back to number five, the only thing I don't like about number five is that there is no way that you can convince me that Spock, in all these years, he's been with these, especially Kirk and McCoy, who arguably are like brothers to him. I mean, he sacrificed his life for them. In all this time, he never told them that he did have a brother or a half brother. I've never, nah, I've never bought that.
00:11:41
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Some people say, oh, well, he's a Vulcan and Vulcan keeps secret. Well, that's also that's also an old TV show trope, right? When the ratings are down, you bring in a long lost family member. Well, that's true. Yeah. Oh, you had a brother all this time. I've never. Yeah. But that's one reason I never liked that trope, because I don't think that
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No, because there was, there's no reason for Spock not to tell him that he died, you know? Yeah, yeah. Because people say all the time, oh, well, Vulcans can't lie. Well, of course they can. Vulcans lie all the time. The thing is that they need a logical reason to do so. They just don't lie, just to be lying. So, yeah, but there was no reason for him not to tell, you know?
00:12:25
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But anyway, I didn't like it when I first saw it, but over the years, I guess, as I mellowed out, and I said, well, you know what? It's not that bad. Now, to give it now, to full disclosure, it's still not the first Star Trek movie I'll put in when I wanna see Star Trek. I'll even watch Star Trek, The Most Your Picture. That one's a slog.
00:12:51
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with nobody. But see, okay, here's the thing though. I promise folks, we're going to get to the movie, which we'll talk about soon. I didn't know it was going to turn into a Star Trek discussion. And once I get started on Star Trek, let me say this. A lot of people, okay, I will say this.
00:13:09
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Star Trek, the motion picture, I fully understand what people like yourself who say, well, that's a slog. It is. And I'm not going to lie about that. It is. It is a slog. It's slow. It's ponderous. But you got to put it in context. Came out back in the 1970s.
00:13:28
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Trekkies, we all went crazy for it. Because it was the only thing we had. It was the only Trek we had. Right. The last thing you guys had was the animated series. And this was before Next Generation came out on TV.
00:13:40
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Right. I mean, I went back to the theaters three times to see it. And I knew people went back four or five, six, seven, eight times to see it, because that was the only thing that we had that we had. And we were just so happy just to see Star Trek on the big screen. Well, I mean, I mean, it's kind of like with with superhero movies, right? For the longest, like, you know, people
00:14:00
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now or looking back, they're like, oh my God, how could you have watched these movies that were terrible? It's like, well, that's all we had. That's all we had. We didn't have
00:14:12
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We didn't have wrath of call. Right. So like, you know, back in the day, like, you know, Lois and Clark, if I look back on that now, I'm like, this is such a piece of shit. But back then, that was the, that was the only thing we had. That was it. That was, that was the only thing in time. And people say, Oh, I don't understand. You can watch it. I mean, I still watch it today.
00:14:32
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for nostalgia value. You know, I like it. However, it would probably the last movie I would give to somebody who, if they didn't know anything about Star Trek and said, where I start, no, here, watch Wrath of Khan. Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Watch that. And, you know, and if you like that, then go on to,
00:14:49
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you know, the voyage home, you know, what's the other one, the search for Spock. Yeah. Well, search for Spock. I mean, you just only need to watch that to understand why he's alive again in voyage home. Exactly. Yeah. But I would always tell someone, no, definitely start with Rapid Time. Then after you've gone through all the other ones, if you want to go back and see, you know, you know, Star Trek, The Motion Picture, then do that. Yeah. It's definitely not the movie you want to start off with. Right. Right. Okay. So,
00:15:18
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I got to go on a little bit of a rant here because this came out. So Zack Snyder is his, I don't know if you've heard this, but he's got his kind of Justice League is coming out. I hear in some rumor about some Justice League bullshit.
00:15:37
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So there's this guy on CinemaBlend, Sean O'Connell, he's coming out with a book about the Snyder Cut phenomenon, the release the Snyder Cut online thing and everything. And he did an interview with Zack Snyder for it. And he asked Snyder about, yeah, see, every time I mentioned Zack Snyder, she gets upset.
00:16:01
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she said he was asked about the toxicity and the behavior of the Snyder Cut fans online. And he said, I just think that's sour grapes. There's really no other way to say it. We know the people who are architects of that narrative and it's pretty obvious what their agenda is.
00:16:25
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Those are people that I've been held back from confronting by wiser people in the room because I'd love to get at some of these characters. Some direct conversation would be nice just to say, one, you don't know shit about what you're talking about and we can break down everything they've ever said. I can make a list. There's a few of these guys I could just get a list of everything they ever said and they thought was right. I could tell them every single thing they said was wrong.
00:16:46
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And so in what world do you have any credibility anywhere to anyone? I would love the opportunity to just say to the world and to fandom in general who these fakers are and what should be done to them or with them. It's just a bunch of BS in regards to that toxic fandom or it's a win for toxic fandom. Again, in what world does this toxic fandom

WandaVision Episodes 4 and 5 Review

00:17:04
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raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for suicide prevention? How was that toxic? They probably achieve more than any other fan base and done more good than any other group. So I don't understand. And of course, Sean O'Connell, who's, you know,
00:17:16
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Zack Snyder's chief fluffer over at cinema blood was echoing. He's like, oh yeah, I've never seen any toxicity in the Snyder Cut fandom. And I'm just sitting there, I'm reading this. I'm like, are you both fucking stoned? I mean, because we talked about this back when the Snyder Cut was announced. Like, this is a problem because the people online, they were being, ever since Batman V Superman came out, like they were alleging conspiracies.
00:17:42
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by Disney and Rotten Tomatoes to bring down the score so that it like Disney doesn't give a shit what kind of numbers Batman V Superman does. Why? They got movies.
00:17:56
Speaker
tons of money, you know, you don't care what you do. Yeah, yeah. And just like all this, and you know, like, I've personally seen the harassment firsthand. And I went back and I've seen like, there are lots of articles out there documenting like all the abusive tweets and threatening emails. I mean,
00:18:16
Speaker
Jesus Christ, they even went after, and it's not just like people online, like they went after people like Patty Jenkins, Jeff Johns, anyone who had the slightest bit of criticism of any of Snyder's movies got dogpiled on. In fact, Gal Gadot mentioned in the Patty Jenkins thing, they were doing press for, I think it was Wonder Woman 84, and they were asked about the Snyder Cut, and Gal Gadot said, well, I haven't seen it. And Patty Jenkins said, nobody's seen it.
00:18:42
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And everybody, the Snyder cult went fucking batshit over that. And I'm glad you said that, the cult. Because yeah, it is, they demonstrate cultish behavior. They really do. I mean, just the notion that they built up in their mind that there is this massive conspiracy in the entertainment world for people not to see the Snyder cut, which in their mind, that's what it was. It was a vast conspiracy to keep them from seeing this movie.
00:19:11
Speaker
In what universe do you think you're that important that people don't want to see, don't want you to see a superhero movie? And one of the things we talked about too back then is we said, rewarding this is gonna lead to more bad behavior. They're not gonna be satisfied because already you're seeing, now they're tweeting out, restore the Snyder verse. Yeah, no, we're almost done talking about Zack Snyder, it's okay. But they're, because they're not gonna stop. It's never gonna be enough.
00:19:40
Speaker
No, exactly. And you know what? Why should they say, OK, well, we got this by acting like assholes. Exactly. Well, let's see what else we can get. Right. I mean, there is no reason for them to stop. And now you've got all these other directors now. They're saying, oh, well, you know what? I got a director's cut of this. And I got a director's cut of that. And you know what?
00:20:07
Speaker
Save it for the Blu-ray, you know? I mean, not everybody wants to see a director's cut of every single movie that's ever been made. I mean, I'm sorry. I mean, I'm all for director's cuts. I think they're great. But when you're, and even back then before all this stuff, I said, okay, if there's a Snyder cut, yeah, it'd be interesting to see. I think it'll be terrible, but it'd be interesting to see. I'm not gonna, but the toxicity that came out of the fandom is just really what I've got a problem with.
00:20:36
Speaker
Yeah, true, true, true. And, you know, to clarify the point, because I've had discussions on Facebook and the email with some people who have accused me of hypocrisy, because, you know, they say, oh, you complain about it all the time, but you know you're going to watch it. I've always said I'm going to watch it. We've always said we're going to watch it.
00:20:55
Speaker
We've always said we're going to watch it. However, that does not prevent me from having an opinion about the asshole behaviors of the cult of the cultists. Right. Threaten people's lives over a damn movie. Yeah, I mean, if you don't see the if you don't see the difference between that, then, you know, then we have nothing to talk about. Also, and I mean, I saw one tweet that was so reprehensible. It said
00:21:22
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this guy had accused Disney of having a role in the death of Snyder's daughter. Like they had somehow influenced her to commit suicide, to stop him from making Justice League. Wow. Yes. And that's the kind of shit we're talking about. So if you say that stuff doesn't exist, I mean, it's all right there. Those tweets are still, there have been a lot of people, a lot of these people have been kicked off of Twitter, which as we've seen over the past four years is not easy to do.
00:21:51
Speaker
No, it's not, but yeah. And also like him saying, you know, I would love to say, you know, I would just love to say to who these fakers are and what should be done to them or with them. I mean, that's dangerous talk he's doing there. That's just, you know, that's flat out incitement right there.
00:22:14
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And I had a bunch of sympathy for Snyder. And I always said that any problems with Justice Lee came about the fact that the man suffered a personal family tragedy and somebody stepped in to finish the movie. It wasn't like the movie was taken from him, which is how these people act. Somehow his creative vision was stifled.
00:22:43
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torn from him and he was done wrong. No, he wasn't done wrong. He had to take time off to heal. That's what he had to do. And a corporate decision, which for all you people out there who think that they make these superhero movies because they love to make them. No, they make them because they make a lot of money. Exactly.
00:23:05
Speaker
yeah bottom line so a corporate decision not a creative one corporate decision was made let's get another director and finish the movie and bottom line that's all that happened there's no vast conspiracy to you know try to stifle Zack Snyder's you know grandiose vision of for the DC
00:23:24
Speaker
universe whatever that is this week because it changes that keeps changing yeah you know the vision changes so uh we don't know we we you know sometimes i doubt even Zack Snyder knows well speaking up so yeah that's that's pretty much all we got to say about that we're almost done we're almost done we're almost done i promise sweetie i'm sorry uncle Derek will stop now um all right but anyway
00:23:54
Speaker
On to better news is because we couldn't, we had, because of your internet issues, we couldn't record on our usual dates. That means we got to watch, I got to watch two episodes of

Speculation on 'Falcon and Winter Soldier'

00:24:03
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One Division to talk about this week, which, oh my God, the best two episodes so far, episodes four and five. You know what? It's not easy to surprise me anymore, but episode five. Yeah. I sat there, I had to rewind.
00:24:22
Speaker
the thing twice to make sure I saw what I saw. And again, Patricia was upset. She said, are you all right? I said, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just watching something but TV. I just lost my shit for a minute. I'm sorry. But yeah, the episodes four and five. These two episodes were for the people who kept complaining that the show was to club.
00:24:53
Speaker
And I couldn't understand those complaints because you're seeing the hints of everything. It's all building up, building up, and then, boom, it hits this point here. It's been a really amazing way that they've executed it so far. Oh, you know, this is some of the best storytelling I've seen in a TV show. First of all, I love the fact that because it's half-hour episodes, it's story. We are getting, you know, it's story.
00:25:21
Speaker
And there's an amazing amount of characterization that's being done simply because they don't have any room for, okay, let me put it this way. As much as I love Luke Cage, Daredevil, and Jessica Jones, can we agree to do it?
00:25:38
Speaker
out of each one of them, you could have cut out two, three, maybe even four episodes. Absolutely, yes. And not lost a thing. Yes, yeah. Okay. Because there was a lot of fat in those shows. As much as I loved them, there was a hell of a lot of fat, especially Luke Cage season two. That nearly killed the thing because there was so much fat in season two. And let's not even get started with Iron Fist.
00:26:02
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But, you know- Iron Fist at least learned their lesson. Cause they, the season two of Iron Fist, they cut the episodes down. They cut out three episodes. Right. Yeah, exactly. With this, you know, there is no bloke. There is no fat. We're getting the story and they're telling it the way they want to tell it. And thank God that they are. Because without the buildup that we had in the first couple of episodes,
00:26:29
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the revelations we got in four and five wouldn't have been as mind-blowing. I mean, to me, they blew my mind. Oh, yeah, yeah. I just, Kat Dennings, give her a Marvel TV show right now. People have been saying that they should get Kat Dennings and Randall Park. They should give them like a X-Files-esque show set in the Marvel universe.
00:26:51
Speaker
I just posted something as Superhero Cinephiles, where the, what's his name? Randall Park, the guy that plays Jimmy Woo. He says he has a meeting with Disney Plus, they want to see a proposal.
00:27:03
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You know, they want him to pit. Yeah, they want him to come in and pitch a, you know, a Jimmy Woo X-Files type series. Yeah, him and Darcy, that would be unbelievable. Unbelievable. One of my favorite scenes in episode four, they're both sitting there eating popcorn and snacks, and they're watching the TV show, and they're into the show now. And they discuss it like the same way we are. That just cracked me up. I just love that so much. Oh, and when she meets Monica, she's like, she's like, I am a big fan.
00:27:32
Speaker
Yeah. Watching her on the TV show. I'm glad to see this. I'm glad to see that she got a doctorate now. Yes, that was another thing else too. I love that. Yeah.
00:27:43
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But it surprised me first that I did the math. Actually, that does make sense because last time we saw her was in the dark world, which was what, 2013, 2014, something like that. So yeah, totally enough time for her to get a doctorate. And that's why she was working with Jane Foster. She was working towards a doctorate. Well, she was originally working for political science.
00:28:04
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Oh, really? Yeah, because they met that was the joke in the first Thor movie when Selvig says, I thought you're I thought you're you're a science major. She says political science. Then Jane says she was the only applicant for the interim position. Oh, okay. So she kind of just fell backwards. Yeah, yeah.
00:28:22
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But Kat Denning's brain, she was like a refreshed breath of fresh, she just came in and it's her, just her style. It's like, you know, nothing phases her. Yes, yeah. She was bothered more by the fact she couldn't get a cup of coffee than all the other weirdness. Doesn't phase her, you know.
00:28:43
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And her and Randall Parker and Jimmy Woo, they just clicked together so well. I could easily see them carrying a TV show by themselves. Oh, hell yeah, yeah, absolutely. And Teyona Paris is Monica. Oh my God, she's amazing. Incredible. Yeah.
00:29:04
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Seeing her come that right deal was just a mind blow to me when she came back after the snap. That was, that was such a good way to work that into it. Yeah. Like it took me a minute to realize what was going on. Yeah.
00:29:19
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they say you know she wakes up and they're like you know your mom died three years three years ago or three years ago or something and then you disappeared five years and she's like whoa oh and then I realized oh my god she was blipped yeah yeah I said it's well you know why because I see in this they did a different effect because
00:29:37
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We were used to seeing the people turning the sand. They didn't do that in this one. They were kind of like, you saw all the meat coming back. Yeah, the opposite. Yeah, you're right. It was a different thing. So yeah, it took me a while to figure out. I said, what's going on here?
00:29:54
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And then I'm putting together, I say, oh, okay, this, okay, now, okay. And then in my head, I'm trying to piece where this goes into now, into the whole, let's also, okay. And like you said, when she says, oh, yo, when you disappear five years ago, I said, oh.
00:30:11
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, pretty much that's what I would say through episode four and five. I was just going, oh. And do you notice the little thing when she mentions, when Jimmy mentions Captain Marvel, like the look at how Monica acts kind of derisive about it? Yeah, I'm gonna be very interested to see how that plays out. Yeah, I'm wondering if maybe it's because she blames her in some way for what happened.
00:30:39
Speaker
You know, like you weren't here, you left, you abandoned us basically type of thing. Now, let me ask you something. Do you think that because when she comes back and her and the director, they're walking through, you know, the facility and he's bringing her up to speed, everything like that. And the director makes a reference that they still got missing astronauts out there.
00:31:00
Speaker
Do you think that was just a casual throwaway thing? Or do you think that that was a reference to the Fantastic Four? Because that's what I'm hearing from some people, think that that's a reference to the Fantastic Four. Well, there's that. That could be. But there's another one, too, when she mentions the aerospace engineer. Yeah. Like a lot of people are suspecting that might be Reed Richards. Oh, OK. Yeah. All right. That didn't occur to me, but now I'm thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:26
Speaker
But also the whole, the cosmic background radiation thing, that too, that Darcy mentioned, that a lot of people are theorizing. I think it was Kevin Smith mentioned that could be something that it brings in the Fantastic Four as well. Because as you and I have discussed before, it's going to be my theory that WandaVision, Dr. Strange,
00:31:52
Speaker
are you know madness and the next Spider-Man movie is all going to be interconnected and it's all going to bring in the Fantastic Four Deadpool and the X-Men that's my thing that is going to rejigger
00:32:07
Speaker
you know, the MCU. That's what phase four is gonna be. So what I've been doing is I watch these episodes and then I will go back and I'm looking, because there's clues planted on who I've explained. That's what phase four is gonna be. And I think that, yeah, there's a lot of clues that we haven't seen yet that's even gonna first, and especially the way episode five ended. Whoa, wait a minute. I mean, you can't be in any more in your face than that.
00:32:38
Speaker
Okay, so anyway, yeah, and that ending at episode five, because there was rumors about this, right? There had been rumors that there was turning up and the way it happened, and you know what?
00:32:55
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I'm just gonna go ahead and say, if you haven't watched episode five, you might wanna skip ahead about like 10 minutes. Because I don't want anyone, you know, bitching that we spoiled something that they want to be surprised by. But anyway, when the door opens and you see from behind, he had like the same hairstyle as Aaron Taylor Johnson. Right, exactly. Yeah.
00:33:18
Speaker
And then it reveals it's Evan Peters. And I'm just like, holy shit. That was a good fake out. Because that's the same thing I put in. Because if you look at, and matter of fact, he even looks like he's wearing the same clothes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that he wore in Age of Ultron to say, oh shit. You know, I said that. And then, of course, when they turn the camera around and you see it's another, oh shit.
00:33:45
Speaker
Wait a minute, what? Yeah, yeah. Now I'm hoping, cause I know the big theory that a lot of people have is this is how they're going to bring mutants in is that they're going to have the multiverse mutants. So the Fox mutants are going to come into the Marvel universe. I hope that's not how it's going to be done. I hope because I think that's a really lazy way to introduce mutants. But I hope this is just, you know, Evan Peters popping over because of, you know, Wanda's powers are now affecting the multiverse itself.
00:34:10
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Right. See, that's what I think it is. I think that her powers are affecting the multiverse. Yeah. And what it is is that that's why she's going to show up in Dr. Strange. Right. But, you know, with help with all this, because, you know, or somebody, Jimmy Moon probably said, well, listen, you need to go see. Or maybe she's even going to be the villain in Dr. Strange, because now, because when she came out, because now we know that she knows what's going on.
00:34:38
Speaker
Yeah. And remember how people were complaining the fact that she doesn't use her accent? And then she walks out and confronts the sword agents and she starts using her accent? Right, yeah. So she knows what she's doing. But how about the revelation that because up until then, now I was hoping that the vision was alive, but I just figured that it was some kind of projection.
00:35:05
Speaker
that she had. How about the revelation that, yeah, she did actually bring him back to life. Yeah, yeah. And she's reanimating his dead body, essentially, right? That scene in episode four, when it shows him with the hole in his head and the, like, that was so freaking creepy. Yeah. That was amazingly well done. Because there's even a little bit where Jimmy and Darcy
00:35:29
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They're asking each other, wait a minute, but how is he back to life without the soul stone? Right, the mind stone. Yeah, the mind stone. They said, you know, I understand how, you know, how does that work? Yeah, this is, this is, and it's, it has a lot of really
00:35:46
Speaker
how this is all coming together. And it's gonna be interesting to see what happens after this too. Like is the vision gonna stay alive after this is over? And even Agnes, you see Agnes is kind of freaked out and we don't usually see Agnes get freaked out when the kids tell her that, oh yeah, well mom can bring back the day. And even Agnes look like she's kind of freaked out. Like she's like, whoa, really? There's another, because remember our theory is that she's actually Agatha Harkness.
00:36:14
Speaker
Right. She was actually asked that. Catherine Hahn was asked that on, I think it was Jimmy Kimmel or one of those shows. So she was asked if she was Agatha Harkness and she would not answer. Oh, okay. She just kind of like smiled and she kept sipping her drink. So, yeah. I like Catherine. Oh, she's- I love her 80s hair. Yeah, yeah. Well, I just love that whole 80s thing in general. Like, cause you were talking about the first two episodes, they're like the sitcoms you grew up with.
00:36:44
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right episode five that was like the sitcoms i grew up with right it was like family guys and all that and growing and just like the the age up like the baby vision pictures killed me oh man i you know what i i watched it i had to pause it and go to because i was gonna peel myself that was hilarious i mean and they get the tone
00:37:06
Speaker
of the various sitcoms and their intros and theme songs so well. They had done so, they have actually done their homework. But yeah, like you said, it's good that they started out like, you know, the fifties, you know, with the Dick Van Dyke. Yeah, yeah. Then they went to the Brady Bunch.
00:37:26
Speaker
in the 70s and now it's the 80s. And yeah, and you know, family ties. So it's really, yeah, they're doing it really well. I thought they were gonna go full house by myself. Well, that was a 90s show. That might be next week. Yeah, right, yeah. You know what, it would be, cause you know, her sisters are the Olsen twins. Yeah. They were on full house. Yeah. So it would be, it would be really funny cause they don't act anymore. I don't know. They're not acting anymore, but it would be really funny if they have heard
00:37:55
Speaker
point taken. Yeah, I mean, let's be honest, did they ever really act? But it would be it would be really kind of funny if they turned up in the next episode. I would like to see that. I really would. It would really be a gas for them, you know, to show or at least bring in Bob Saget because Bob Saget's always always great. Oh, he's always a hoot. Yeah. Well, you know, the funny thing is he's he's such a you've ever seen a stand up comedy.
00:38:19
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. That guy is just like. That guy would make George Carlin blush. No, who else was like that? You remember Buddy Hackett? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they said Buddy Hackett had the filthiest stand up act in Las Vegas.
00:38:38
Speaker
It always surprised me because, you know, when you saw him on TV, he was always like this goofy fat guy, stuff like that. Right, right, right, right, right. But nah, they said that, yeah, they said people would line up to see his stand up. You know, that's how filthy he was. I said, really? And they said the same thing about Bob Saget. They said, yeah, yeah. The guy's got one of the filthiest stand ups that you ever want to see. Yeah. Oh, God. I saw one of his specials. It was hilarious.
00:39:05
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. It's not only filthy, but it's actually really funny too. Yeah. But it's so uncomfortably funny. Like you're laughing at these jokes and you're thinking to yourself, oh my God, I'm terrible for laughing at this. Yeah. It's the type of humor that you're laughing and you're not sure you should be laughing. Exactly. Yeah.
00:39:26
Speaker
That's funny. What are you supposed to do? It's funny. Sometimes when I'm sitting and watching something, Patricia will say, how can you laugh at that? It's funny. What are you happy to do? You can't pretend it's not funny. Anyway, so WandaVision, I cannot wait for the next episode. And I'm even more psyched, because just one last piece of news before we jump in, is that they announced that Don Cheadle let slip that Rhodey is going to be appearing in Falcon and Winter Soldier. Oh.
00:39:56
Speaker
And yeah, yeah. And now I've got a theory developing about this, right? Because in the show, Sam has the shield, but he hasn't become Captain America. He hasn't accepted that responsibility. And then you've got John Walker involved in it. They've said that they're gonna have Isaiah Bradley, the World War II Black Captain America, right? So I think a big thing behind the show is going to be that
00:40:25
Speaker
the storyline from the truth, red, white, and black, where they revealed that after they created Steve Rogers, after they were able to give him the super soldier serum, they were trying to recreate it and in their test, they were testing it on black GIs.
00:40:41
Speaker
Yeah and it was just like all these and the only successful one was Isaiah Bradley so I think that may play into because if you notice in the trailer Sam says like that shield has you know something about it behind it or something like that. Yeah well I think that but I think it also has a double meaning if he found out about this thing with the truth. So and now we got that Don Shield is going to be in it too being um
00:41:08
Speaker
being a black guy in the military as well, who's still active in the military, unlike Sam who's left, which like we talked about when we talked about Civil War, that the way the different points of view they both have. Yeah, that was one of my favorite scenes in Civil War. And I always point that out to people that
00:41:25
Speaker
First of all, you got two Black superheroes in the same movie.

Analysis of 'Project Power'

00:41:28
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And they're both military men, but yet they have different points of view. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And how things, and I think that that was really, you know, that was an excellent way to show that, yeah, they're Black men in the military, but they're not the same guy. Right. Yeah. Yeah. They both had their own points of view of how things should be done and, you know,
00:41:49
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their role in the Avengers and in the military and all that kind of thing. And whoever, I don't remember who wrote that scene, but you know, whoever did, I hope that they gave him a raise and artists are.
00:42:00
Speaker
Yeah, that's one of my favorite scenes. That was a great scene. Yeah. And so, yeah, I'm all here for for more. Well, I think it seems like Rody's going to be playing a much bigger role because he's got he's going to appear in Falcon and Winter Soldier. He's got the art. He's going to be the central character in the Armor Wars series. I think he's going to play a role in Ironheart as well. So Rody's, you know, he's getting around a lot more now.
00:42:23
Speaker
I think, okay, one thing that I really like, and I know a lot of people bitch and moan and whine when, you know, oh, Disney is hogging everything, Disney is doing this, Disney is doing that. I think that Disney has proven that first of all, by bringing all of the Marvel properties, because there was a lot of complaint when the Netflix series, I mean, you know, was canceled. Right, right. That's it, well, you knew that was gonna happen.
00:42:53
Speaker
I think that they're gonna revive those series at Disney. And by bringing everything under one umbrella, I think just from WandaVision, they have a plan.
00:43:05
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Or, you know, where they're going to go and what they're going to do. If we would just sit back and just trust them and see where it's going. Because it's going to take time to get there, just like it took the time with, you know, the whole, what they called it. Sorry. Sorry, all right. I got to pause. Yeah, yeah. And I was just saying that.
00:43:29
Speaker
You know, a lot of people complain about, oh, Disney is hogging everything and doing this and doing that. But it seems to me that Disney is also taking the right course and that they're just letting the creative people do what they do. Right. And they're just like saying, okay, you know what? Here's a ton of money. Just go ahead and be creative.
00:43:51
Speaker
And, you know, they're not interfering with them and then letting them, you know, which to me is the way to go. You got something like this. And then- Well, that said, they do have, but they have a strong guiding hand with Kevin Feige, right? So like they're not interfering, but they're guiding in a way that's really working out well.
00:44:07
Speaker
Exactly, exactly. And you've got one guy now that's guiding everything we had before where we had the kerfuffle with agents of shield and you is because that was one thing and Netflix was another and this, you know, so I mean, having everything all and now that they're bringing all the other properties in there because they've already announced they're going to, they're definitely going to do another Deadpool.
00:44:34
Speaker
Right, yeah. And it's gonna be R-rated. Yes, yeah. It's gonna be R-rated Deadpool. Charlie Cox is coming back as Daredevil in the third Spider-Man movie. Yeah. So yeah, it'll be really interesting to see how things shape up going forward. Now that they've got those rights back, like, because obviously they're not gonna have those shows back on Netflix and they're obviously not gonna be on Disney Plus, but I think we'll probably see that kind of stuff appearing on Hulu. Probably, yeah. Like we did with Hellstrom.
00:45:03
Speaker
Yeah, that's my, I think that if we ever see Luke Cage and Daredevil and Jessica Jones again, me, I think it's more likely that they're probably going to try to get those actors back and say, listen, do you want to come back?
00:45:21
Speaker
do this, and we'll just rejigger the shows. And we'll just, you know, start from day one, basically. I don't even think they'd have to start from day one, because all that stuff would fit pretty seamlessly in. But one thing I would hope they do, and I got two dream projects that I hope would come out of this. One, Daughters of the Dragon, like Misty Knight and Colleen Wing, like those two actresses were the best, like some of the best parts of those shows. So give them their own show. And two,
00:45:47
Speaker
I want to see Heroes for Hire TV show. I want to see Power Man and Iron Fist. And Finn Jones, I know he got a lot of shit for the first season of Iron Fist, a lot of it deserved, but there was that episode he was in in Luke Cage where he was pitch perfect. And I think if you get more of that type of Iron Fist that he was in season two of Luke Cage and pair him up with Mike Colter, I think it would be a really awesome series.
00:46:13
Speaker
Yeah. Well, as I said before, I don't blame him for Iron Prince. I don't. I mean, the guy's working actor, he needed a job, you know, he went in and he got the job. Yeah. To me, again, if you're going to do a TV series where your main character is a master martial artist, then you hire a master martial artist and play the role and you teach him that.
00:46:36
Speaker
Because it's easier to do that than to get an actor and then teach him Marshall because then because and then here's what kills me. They surrounded him with Marshall artists who you can see was definitely you can see they were holding back. Yeah, make this guy look bad.
00:46:53
Speaker
Because, you know, I mean, really, it didn't make any sense. Yeah, yeah. If I was running things, I would have fired that casting director. I said, what were you thinking of? Why didn't you just say, listen, bring in half a dozen martial artists and let me look at them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And see which one out of them can act the best and work with him. Yeah. We'll get him acting coach or whatever like that. But I need a guy that can do martial arts. Right, right.
00:47:20
Speaker
Anyway, so we're continuing this week's episode with our spotlight on black superhero movies. And with that in mind, I just want to let people know that Comixology is having a big Black History Month sale. So they've got like
00:47:36
Speaker
All of the Black Panther stuff is up there. It's on sale. The Miles Morales stuff is up there for sale. DC's got a Black History Month sale. There's a bunch of like independent stuff. Valiant's got a whole BIPOC sale going on. So a lot of really good stuff. If you want to read more about Black superheroes or Black comics in general, like there's a lot of really good stuff that's up there on comicsology. A lot of independent stuff as well too.
00:48:01
Speaker
I just gave my wife my credit card. I said, don't give it back to me until now. I did. I said, don't. She said, what's the matter? I said, don't ask, just hold on. Yeah, I just completed the, I've now got the, pretty much the complete set of the Black Panther comics. I just finished up a Ta-Nehisi Coates run, and I just picked up the Reginald Hudlin stuff, which I'd never read before. And I heard mixed things about it, but I decided I'd give it a chance. Okay, fair enough. Because the price is right, so.
00:48:30
Speaker
Well, again, see, that's the thing. See, as we've said, as I've said many times, their pricing is ridiculous. You feel, you know, you feel like you're crazy if you don't buy it. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, well, look at their price, you know. Yeah, it was like, I think it was total 50 bucks and it was the last three trades in the, in the coat series that I didn't have yet. Plus like all the Hudlin stuff.
00:48:56
Speaker
You know what I mean? Yeah, so it's like, well, I mean, that's gonna keep me busy for, you know, a good few days, maybe like a month or so, at least. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, that lot of really, and, you know, and I love the code stuff, and it'll be interesting to see about the Hudlin stuff, to kind of go back and see, and to go back and see like some, like the introduction of Shuri in the comics, which I'd never known, because I only really know her from the movie, basically. Yeah, well, which is where most people, which is why I think most people are going back and they're getting those issues now. Yeah, yeah.
00:49:24
Speaker
more familiar with her, you know, with her. Because I know people was telling me, and they said, and I said, well, you know, the Black Panther, when he was originally created, he didn't have a sister. She came later on, and people soon said, oh, really? And then they wanted no more. They wanted to know where the character came from. And, you know, now. Also on the, because we mentioned, you posted an article about Christopher Priest the other day. So his whole Black Panther run is up on there. And also I found out, I was checking, because that article mentioned something that I forgot that he did for Valiant back in, or
00:49:54
Speaker
back when Valiant was acclaimed called Quantum and Woody. Quantum and Woody, yeah. Which is up there on sale. They got the complete collection of the original series as well as the Q2, the return series that he and M.D. Bright did a few years back.
00:50:09
Speaker
And I wonder what it would have happened because Quantum and Woody has been optioned for like years for either movies or TV series. And you know, I did hear at one time, but then you hear everything supposed to be on Netflix at one time. And you know, I wonder, cause that would make a good TV series. That would make an amazing TV series. Yeah, for Netflix or for Amazon. Yeah. Probably more.
00:50:33
Speaker
on Amazon because I see that, you know, they seem to be a little bit more, taking a little bit more chances with their superhero stuff, like with the boys. Right, right. With the tech, you know, which didn't last too long, but, you know, but they seem to be going for a little bit more, not the traditional type of superhero stuff. Yeah, yeah. And they have this animated one now. What is it? You know, the Robert Kirkman.
00:50:58
Speaker
Oh, Invincible. Invincible, yeah. So they seem to be going for the non-traditional superhero stuff. So that's why I think Quantum and Woody would probably be a better fit there. Yeah, that would definitely be, I'd be totally up for that. I mean, and I haven't read those issues in years. Neither have I. So I'm going back and I'm picking up the, and I was checking today when I saw the Valentine, I wonder if Quantum and Woody's in there. So I checked and it's in there. So I got both those in my shopping cart, pick those up once you finish up here.
00:51:27
Speaker
All right. Comicsology, if you want to throw us some free swag. Yeah. I mean, come on, man. We keep plugging you guys nonstop. So I mean, and you know me, like I'm putting your kids through college as opposed to my own. So yeah. No. All right. So but the Netflix thing is a good transition because today's movie is a movie that was made for Netflix. And that's Project Power starring Jamie Foxx and Joseph Gordon Levitt.
00:51:58
Speaker
Yeah, that superhero superhero movie came out, came out last year. Yes. Yeah. And you saw this before, like I had just seen it just for this episode, but you had seen it before, I believe, right? Yeah, yeah. I saw it and I didn't know anything about it. I hadn't even heard about it. My wife, she's a Jamie Foxx fan. And let me say it's about Jamie Foxx. So let me get this out the way so people,
00:52:28
Speaker
It's not, I don't like Jamie Foxx. I do, I actually like, I mean, he was brilliant in Ray. And I've seen plenty of movies like Collateral. You know, I love them and that, everything like that. Django Unchained. Yeah, Django Unchained, which is probably, if you ask me what's my favorite thing that stars Jamie Foxx, that's it, right? Same here, same here.
00:52:49
Speaker
Now, having said that, I went to see Django Unchained more for that it was a Quentin Tarantino movie, but he could have had anybody starring in it and I would have went to see it, you know. Little Richard was starring in Django Unchained, I don't want to see it. It's not that I don't like him, but it's just that Jamie Foxx is not the type of actor that
00:53:09
Speaker
When I would have Mackley here, he's something. He's in something. I said, oh, well, I got to see it. Right, right, right. That's all it is. He's a good actor. I liked him as an actor. I'm good. It's just that he just doesn't have that kind of excitement. He's not someone you will go out of your way to watch a movie with. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah.
00:53:27
Speaker
No, I get that. I mean, I will not go to the movie. Denzel Washington, yeah, I'm gonna burn up gas, go to the movie theater and see Denzel Washington. I sat through the little things just because Denzel Washington was in that. And it was two hours I wish I had back.
00:53:42
Speaker
You know what? I'm hearing a lot about that, too. You know, me and Patricia are supposed to, we were supposed to watch that because I think it dropped, what, like last week? Yeah, yeah. And we haven't seen it yet because I think that, you know, because we've been hearing that, well, it's not all that, you know. I think that Deso Washington is still trying to make up for the mistake of not taking the Brad Pitt role in Seven.
00:54:06
Speaker
Yeah, then that's definitely what it feels. It's seven, but it's seven if it's boring and has a nonsensical ending. Oh, okay. Thank you for the warning. Yeah. And you've got, what's his name? Jared Leto is pretty good. Like this is what frustrates me about watching this movie with Jared Leto. And it's like, I'm watching him and he's doing this really good job playing like this, you know, this creepy, you know, possibly a serial killer type of guy.
00:54:36
Speaker
But, you know, he, and I'm watching this, I'm thinking back to Suicide Squad. I'm like, why couldn't you have played the Joker more like this instead of whatever the hell that was?
00:54:55
Speaker
But anyway, so anyway, Project Power, Jamie Foxx. Now, Joseph Gordon-Levitt is in this too. Now he's someone who I'm more prone to say like, okay, I'll give that a chance because of Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Well, okay. If it was just Jamie Foxx, I probably would have held off even longer seeing it until I would say, well, you know what? I got nothing else to watch, let me watch this. But knowing Jason Gordon-Levitt, you know,
00:55:24
Speaker
I just wanted to see the two of them together because when I heard they was in the movie, I said, well, they're both pretty good separately. Together they should be pretty good. And they actually were very good together in this movie. They will work together extremely well in this movie. The one thing that I really liked about this movie and that
00:55:44
Speaker
We have a completely fresh take here on how to acquire superpowers. It's not like people getting superpowers through radiation or magic or some other kind of that. It really is a novel new way of acquiring superpowers.
00:56:01
Speaker
Well, just one correction, because they did do this in the comic. It's a novel way in movies. But in the comic books, I think it was Brian Bendis's Alia series, which introduced Jessica Jones. He introduced a street drug in that series called mutant growth hormone, MGH. And also, Grant Morrison in his X-Men run, there was something he had something similar to where it was called
00:56:24
Speaker
I believe it was called kick was the name of a drug that like boosted mutant powers. And then Ben just took it a step further where you take this drug mutant growth hormone, it gives you superpowers for a temporary period. Okay. Oh, but when I say no, when I say different and new, yeah, because yeah, of course, plenty of times we've seen where people, you know, take, I mean, um, the one, uh, Batman's enemy, um,
00:56:50
Speaker
Obey. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he takes a drug that gives him super. I mean, we've seen all of this, but having these various powers based on the natural abilities of animals. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. Fish. Yeah. That's something because the power that Jamie Foxx has, that's a real animal. Yeah. Yeah. Because of course, after I watched the movie, I said, you know, I got to look this shit up, be real. And apparently for like the next two days, that was the number one search of Google.
00:57:20
Speaker
Yeah, this little shrimp that, yeah, apparently is extremely deadly animal, you know, so yeah, so that's what I mean when I said that it's a novel. I see, I see. No way, yeah, it's a novel way of having people acquire superpowers. Yeah, yeah, it's more of, it's not so much, you know,
00:57:41
Speaker
using, because genetics and superpowers, like genetics is like the new way, has replaced radiation as like the default way to give someone superpowers. But you're right, it's more of like the transhumanism type stuff, like the gene splicing thing with animals that you don't, than it is, like we usually see in superhero movies or comic books where it's just like unspecified genetic tampering. Right, like you said, like,
00:58:07
Speaker
back in the sixties and seventies, the big thing was radiation. Everybody was getting their super powerful. And then Stan Lee, which is why, which is why the main thing I like about the expos that Stanley said, you know, so I'm getting tired of coming up with a reason why they were just born with it. Yeah. That was when, that was when Stanley was getting kind of, uh, he was getting kind of it. He was digging the bottom of the barrel as far as superior origin stories were concerned. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
00:58:35
Speaker
I mean, to me, that was brilliant because now you can give them any kind of superpower you want. Well, no matter how improbable, just go on with it. That was it, you know, and just go from there. You know, you don't have to sit around thing. So whoever thought this up, they act, I mean, whoever
00:58:53
Speaker
They actually sat down and did the research. Yes. Yeah. And, you know, came up with the plug. And I was impressed. I was saying that I said, wow, you know, that is clever. Something else that impressed me about the superpowers, too, is because you usually see, like,
00:59:09
Speaker
Human torch, right? He's immune to his own powers. Yeah. But you don't see that here, right? These people are not immune to the effect. Their bodies are still human. They're not immune to the effects their powers cause. So you've got Newt when he's, you know, flaming on and he's literally burning himself as he does it. Right. Like that was a really well. He takes an overdose. Yeah. Well, the effects we have on people take an overdose of this stuff because in the course of the movie, the problem for those of you who haven't seen it,
00:59:36
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Basically, the plot is this, is that there are people running through New Orleans carrying on cranky because of this drug called power. Yes. This capsule, you break the capsule and you swallow it, and it gives you a superpower for a couple of hours. No, five minutes. Yeah, five minutes. Okay, so for five minutes, you have a superpower.
00:59:59
Speaker
Catch is you don't know how you do it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you only hope it's something that will enable you to say, okay, you're invisible for five minutes. Okay. You can run into a bank and grab as much cash as you can. Of course, the problem is that you're invisible, but the money that you're carrying on the bags is not, you know, again, this is the monkey's paw. It's a catch to it. You know,
01:00:23
Speaker
this isn't like you swallow it and you know you're going to be able to fly. Robin. Well yeah there's that there's a one scene right at the beginning we're introduced to Robin where the guy asked her he's like you know so he says you know he's like I want to climb up that wall and she's like that's not how it works.
01:00:36
Speaker
Yeah. And I think I could be wrong but my understanding, and you can correct me if I'm wrong on this but I think like you get the same powers every time, it's just the first time you don't know what those powers are going to be because it's dependent on your own genetic makeup because Jamie Foxx has the same, those are the powers he's had before. Right.
01:00:57
Speaker
days you go to 11, he has a vulnerability. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. He gets like some sort of like lizard like armor or something. Right. Yeah. So yeah. So when you swallow the pill, you get the same super. It's not like every time you swallow it, you're going to get a different super power. Right. Exactly. Based on your own genetics and how it interacts with the genetic code that's in the pill, you know, okay, this is what it unlocks on you because
01:01:22
Speaker
I know they go back to the whole thing where they talk about, well, you know, when we're an embryo, we go through a lizard stage and we go through a bird stage and we go through this stage and we go, you know, and our DNA is very similar to that of animals. And that's what this pill reacts to and works with when you going on there. So, yeah. So after you swallow it and you know what your power is, then that's the same one you have all the time. Yeah. And, um,
01:01:51
Speaker
So what did you think of this movie overall? Overall, I thought it was pretty good. You know what? It's a B movie with A special effects. And A-list talent too, because you've got Jamie Foxx and Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
01:02:07
Speaker
Yeah, but this is very much a B movie and what I liked about it is that they know it's a B movie. They know this thing ain't going to win the Academy Awards. They know there's not going to be the whole thing. But again, as I've said many times, it's not made for that. It's made to be a Saturday afternoon
01:02:26
Speaker
superhero movie that you just sit back and you just say, okay, well, I'm gonna kick back and have fun for two hours. And that's it. And that's all you're supposed to do with it. And I had fun watching it. You know, one thing that really impressed me though, sorry, go ahead. No, no, no, go. I was gonna say, one of the things that really impressed me was Dominique Fishback as Robin. Like she, like this is interesting because you watch, you see the trailer, you're watching, you see it come up on Netflix, you think,
01:02:54
Speaker
Jamie Foxx or Joseph Gordon-Levitt are going to be the main character or it's going to be like a buddy movie between the two of them or something like that but it's really not. Robin's really the main character in this. Yeah she's actually the main character and it's most fitting that at the end of the movie she's the last one we see and we hear her music finally when she does the rap you know. Right. Yeah it's very yeah I'm glad you picked up on that because when I saw for the second time I said okay yeah
01:03:20
Speaker
This was really her movie. And actually, her father is hit, played by Jamie Foxx, and the cop, who's her buddy, who's more like her partner, they're like her sidekicks. Which is all the more funny that she's named Robin.
01:03:41
Speaker
I don't think that was an accident. Oh, no, no. Because she makes a Batman and Robin joke at one point, too. Yeah, especially when you remember that Jason Gordon-Levitt was in the Batman movie. That's right. He was basically Robin in Dark Knight Rises. Right. So in this movie, he's Robin.
01:04:01
Speaker
But also that was the nice thing you mentioned about the, because that scene at the end, that's a mid credit scene. So it's usually in these superhero movies, the mid credit scene is some tease about what the heroes are going to be doing next. So in this case, we get her working on a rap music.
01:04:15
Speaker
Yeah. Which was a little clever way of switching up that trope a little bit, showing that she was the real hero of this movie. Yeah, she's the real hero of the movie. It's a fakeout, kind of like the one, of course, everybody knows by now. But yes, folks, I was brilliant enough that when I saw the movie in the theaters, I got it. That in Big Trouble in Little China,
01:04:39
Speaker
Kurt Russell is actually not the hero. He's the sidekick. Yeah. He's the bubbling sidekick, in fact. Yeah, he's the bubbling sidekick. Yeah. Because, yeah, he's not the hero. Now, when I first saw that movie, I said, OK, I see what they're doing. And yeah, in this one, it's actually her story. Because again, she's the first character that we meet. Yes. When she's pulling off the drug deal and her sidekick has to come and he comes and saves her. He provides her with transportation.
01:05:08
Speaker
You know, and the whole movie, the thrust of the movie is that Jamie Foxx, who actually has been working on this project, he's looking for her because the bad guys are looking for her because he's got a unique genetic code. Cause apparently he's the only one that ever got the power of this shrimp. And his daughter,
01:05:38
Speaker
What was her name? Look it up. Tracy, his daughter, she inherited his genetic code and now she naturally has powers and she doesn't lose them. She doesn't need a pill. She naturally has this ability to heal people. Right. And so that, so yeah, so now this defense contractor, Telios wants, is experimenting on her to try to figure out how they can replicate that.
01:06:07
Speaker
Well, because of course, because in these movies, you always have to have a sinister government agency that wants to use this for their own gain. And in the meantime, they're just randomly giving out the drug, because we see at the beginning, like any good drug dealer, they're just giving this shit out for free. Right. The people, basically they're experimenting on them and monitoring them and seeing what they do and how they can do it.
01:06:31
Speaker
and say, and okay, well, we can use this and yeah, this one, nah, nah, nah, that shit. Okay, but in the meantime, people are dying. Yeah, yeah. Because you got all of these people that are going, like I said, they're robbing banks, jewelry stores, they're killing people, they're just carrying on cranky. And Joseph Gordon Levitt, he's a police officer that is secretly taking, his superior doesn't know about it at first, you know, but he's using the pills
01:07:00
Speaker
to try to stop this super villain crime way, which is what it is. Super villain crime way that's infesting the city, which is a good way to start off the movie. I mean, this movie, again, as I've said many times, I have an enormous amount of respect for a movie.
01:07:16
Speaker
that knows what it is and feels no reason to be anything more than that. There's some people I know they've complained about this. Well, I would have liked to see more world building and I would have liked to see more backstory and I would, no, we didn't need that. Right. Yeah. Exactly what you need to know.
01:07:35
Speaker
to enjoy what you're watching and no more. Now, if they make a sequel, and also, yeah, this one of these movies, that if they make a sequel to it, fine. But if they don't, I'm perfectly happy with that, too. But the thing is, too, like, I don't know what kind of more world-building you'd really want or you'd really need. I mean, because, okay, something like, and this is on my mind because it recently came on Netflix, and it's been getting a second look, that is Brightburn, which we talked about a few months back. Okay.
01:08:03
Speaker
Yeah, so it's because there was talk of a sequel at one point, and then it just kind of like that sequel talk just kind of died down. But now the movies on Netflix, a lot of people are redis are discovering it for the first time. And it's getting a lot of buzz again. So like, but that was when we talked about that movie, there's a lot of world building behind it that's done in really subtle ways, especially when you get to the the the credit scene. Mm hmm.
01:08:30
Speaker
but you don't really need that in Project Power. Like you get all the world building you really need. It's a military contractor, they develop this drug and they're experimenting. I mean, what other world building do you really need? And listen, I'm one of these people, whenever people start throwing around stuff like that, I'm like you, I honestly don't know what they want. Well, what do you mean world building? Yeah, yeah.
01:08:58
Speaker
Do you want a story or do you, you know, I mean, because to me, I'm like this, if the writers are doing their job,
01:09:06
Speaker
any world building that is necessary is going to come out during the course of the story as we're going through it with the characters. Right. You know, I mean, what do you want? Lord of the Rings, where you got a whole complete new language and technology and, and all that. Okay. Well, that's all fine. But see that's Lord of the Rings that you need that world building for that. Something like this. No, you just need a premise and characters and let's go. Right. Yeah. You talk to Lord of the Rings. You talk Star Wars. You talk the,
01:09:34
Speaker
the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the DC Universe, any of those things, these are massive worlds these characters inhabit. So yeah, you do have world building that you need in those worlds.

Characterization: Action vs. Drama

01:09:42
Speaker
But this, this is just one little thing that's deviated from the world as we know it. Yeah, you don't need a whole bunch of world building. And when people talk about characterization, well, yeah, well, I'm a big believer in having characterization.
01:10:01
Speaker
while something is going on, especially in a movie like this. We are not talking about like a Meryl Streep drama where people sit down and they talk for 15, 20 minutes.
01:10:11
Speaker
Again, it's not that type of movie. You need to have something happen. Just like we were talking earlier on, one of the problems I had with the Netflix Marvel series is that you did have two or three episodes where it was nothing but people just sitting down and we're just talking back and forth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And okay, well, this is all well and good, but could something be going on? Because this is a superhero move. Right, exactly. There's supposed to be something happening. Well, I mean, beyond that, this is basically just
01:10:40
Speaker
It's basically just a cop drama with superpowers. That's basically what it is. That's all it

Deep Dive into 'Project Power' Characters

01:10:45
Speaker
is. And you get all the characterization you need for those two characters. Joseph Gordon-Levitt, he's a cop who's trying to stop, get rid of the drug. Jamie Foxx, he was one of these test subjects who's trying to get his daughter back because they kidnapped her. That's their motivation. That's what's driving them in these movies. That's all you really need for them.
01:11:10
Speaker
And then you get more stuff in, you get other stuff in there, like, you know, the whole irony of Joseph Levitt using these powers, Frank, using these powers in order to stop people from using the powers. Same thing with Art, you know, he was one of these test subjects, and he doesn't seem to care so much about getting rid of the drug, he's just more, all he wants is to get his daughter back. He doesn't really care about what happens to everybody else.
01:11:34
Speaker
And I like the, I like the ambiguity of the characters when we first meet because we're not really sure when we meet them if they're exactly on the up and up. Right. Or if they're, you know, because there's a while there you're not sure Jamie Foxx is looking for his daughter for him or for
01:11:52
Speaker
This organization kind of not sure if his motivation on why he's doing it or Gordon leavitt you're not sure about his motivation for why he's doing what he's doing until we see him have the confrontation with his superior officer. And then say okay now we know what side he's on. Jamie fox like it takes us a little while longer and then we say okay now we know what side he's on.
01:12:16
Speaker
And, you know, okay, now we can go ahead. Yeah, I thought they did a really good job playing with that aspect of it. Like, you know, are you sure you could really trust? They did, I thought, usually when that happens in these kinds of movies, it is kind of handled in kind of a hamptasted way. But in this movie, I thought they did a really, they struck a really nice balance, right? They gave you just enough to make you suspicious, but they didn't hammer it over your head.
01:12:38
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Because for a while there, like you said, and yeah, you're not sure, you know, if you should be trusting these guys, even Robin, when she says to Gordon Levitt, she says to him and she said, well, are you a cop or are you a customer? Right. She's not even sure. You know, we started the fence. He's on, you know, which I really liked it that they kept us off balance for a while that we didn't know. Okay. Should we be trusting these guys? Robin is the only one that we know that we can trust because we,
01:13:09
Speaker
firmly put in her head, like when she goes to school and her home life. So we know where she's coming from. We know her motivations. We know what she's doing and why she's doing it. But these two guys, for a while, you know, we're giving them the side eye, because we're not too sure. Because of course there is a natural inclination to trust Jamie Foxx. Because they usually play heroes.
01:13:32
Speaker
they do no hinky stuff at first. They're just saying, hmm, I'm not sure here, you know. So yeah, it kept my interest. That's what I'm saying. Yes, yeah. Okay, well you know what? I want to follow these guys just to see, you know, how they turn out. Yeah, well another thing too is when people talk about the characterization is that I think those people
01:13:54
Speaker
aren't really getting that, again, Frank and Art aren't the main characters. Robin's the main character. And she gets a shit ton of characterization. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's a lot. They do a lot with her. And the more the movie goes on, the more we see things from her point of view. Yeah. And she's just a she's an amazing young actress. Like, I've never seen her in anything else before. Oh, no, she was in The Hate U Give. So I did see her in something else before.
01:14:23
Speaker
I don't remember her in that. I don't remember her character that much. I think she was just a small part, but she was amazing in that movie. She was amazing in this movie. And when we watched this movie, a couple of weeks before that, we had watched also a Netflix, an utterly wretched movie called, what was it? Coffee and Kareem, with one of the most foul-mouthed
01:14:51
Speaker
Vile child actors, it has been my misfortune to watch in a movie in a long time. I mean, the things that they have this child do in a movie, say in doing this movie, you shouldn't make a child say and do those things. Somebody that's underage, you really don't. That was a vile, reprehensible movie.
01:15:15
Speaker
Then you watch this and you see a child actor who actually does know how to act

Critique of 'Coffee and Kareem'

01:15:20
Speaker
and is getting a role to play and given a character to play and not given a blatantly horrendous stereotype that is so offensive on so many levels. I don't even know where to start. Yeah, I just looked it up. It's 20% on Rotten Tomatoes. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, this is...
01:15:42
Speaker
I have no idea why Taraji P. Henson and, what is it? That guy from The Office. Ed Helms. Because they're good. I mean, Taraji P. Henson is great. You know, Ed Helms is good. Yeah. I didn't care for him too much in The Office, but everything else I've seen him in, I'm like, what possessed him to be in this movie?
01:16:04
Speaker
you know because they certainly didn't need the money you know or maybe they did I don't know all I'm just saying that it was it was a perfectly borrowed movie but
01:16:13
Speaker
The actress in this movie is refreshing to watch because like I said, she's actually given a character to play. And yeah, this movie made up for that other one, which folks, if you haven't seen it yet, please don't watch that thing. You should not subject yourself to that. I don't care how much you love Taraji P. Henson.
01:16:35
Speaker
or hills, not watch this movie, that movie under any sort. Watch this one. Well, that's good. I'm glad you told me that because just judging from the premise and the poster, this is probably a movie I would have given a shot. So now hearing that, I know not to waste my time.
01:16:51
Speaker
I mean, listen, have you got nothing else to do? And if you just want to walk, could you, you know, sometimes you watch a movie just to see, well, you know what, it can't be as bad as, you know, Eric says it is, you know, cause sometimes I'll do that. You'll tell me about that. And somehow I say, you know what, let me watch it and see if it's as bad as they said. And then after about a half hour or so, I turn it off and say, yup, they were right. It is that bad. There was, I'm having trouble thinking about it now, but there was one movie that was like that. Everybody said it was terrible. And I watched him like, oh, that's not so bad actually. Cause everybody had built it up in my mind to be so bad.

Public Opinion's Influence on Movies

01:17:21
Speaker
Oh, well, again, you know, sometimes you do that. There are movies that I know people have said it's terrible, I watch it and I say, you know what, it's not that bad. And then there are other movies that people build it up and I watch it and I say, really? It wasn't all. Well, a lot of the movies we talked about here, like there are a lot of people who would say that, oh, those movies are terrible, like, you know, going back to Swamp Thing or Nick Fury or, and we watched them like, actually, no, there's a lot of good stuff in there or Batman and Robin even.
01:17:50
Speaker
And you'd be surprised how many people have come back to me and they say, you know what? I watched Nick Fury and you were right. It wasn't that bad. No, it's all in the way that you approach it. Right, exactly. Which is what I said. Well, I think something else too is there's a lot of bandwagon jumping in when it comes to like movie fandom and that kind of thing. We're like enough people will say a movie is bad and then even people who like it will be afraid to say otherwise.
01:18:18
Speaker
There's a lot of that coming on. Everybody trying to fit in with the regular narrative of what is a good movie, what is a bad movie. See, here's my theory. Here's my theory. Okay, you have McDonald's, you have Applebee's, you have Red Lobster, you have Peter Lugar,
01:18:44
Speaker
You got a bunch of different restaurants that you go to, depending on what you feel like eating.

Movies vs. Dining: Subjective Experiences

01:18:49
Speaker
Sometimes you feel like eating a Big Mac, large fries, and a Coke, right? Other times you feel like going to Red Lobster and sitting down.
01:18:59
Speaker
And, you know, you're looking at a menu, all depends on how you feel. To me, movies are no different. Oh, absolutely. You watch a movie based on how you feel. You know, because sometimes you sit down and you say, okay, I feel like watching James Bond movie. And you watch a James Bond movie. No, I don't feel like watching James Bond movie. I watch a documentary. I got to just turn down the heat real quick. It's a little bit hot. Go right ahead.
01:19:37
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. So to me, movies are no different. I think that a problem we have now in movies is that you have people that want movies to fulfill entertainment needs that the movie is not designed to do. Yeah.
01:20:05
Speaker
You have a romantic comedy. Romantic comedy is a specific type of movie made to fulfill a specific purpose. Don't watch a romantic comedy and then be mad at it. You know what? You don't get mad at a fork because it's not a screwdriver.
01:20:19
Speaker
of what you decide to be before. I see people doing this on author forums. They talk about, and a lot of it is crapping on the romance genre of books. A lot of saying like, oh, I don't like it. I don't like romance because it's so derivative and all this. And if I were writing a romance book, I would do something like, well, the thing is the audience that reads those books, that's what they want. Like they're paying to have like a happily ever after ending. And if you're not going to give them that, then they're going to go somewhere else.
01:20:48
Speaker
You know, to me, it's like watching a Western and then complaining because there's horses and Indians in there. Exactly. Well, that's what a Western is designed to do. Western is designed to have horses because it's a Western.
01:21:02
Speaker
People have superpowers, you know why? Because this is a superhero movie. One of the most ridiculous reviews I ever got on my superhero novels was someone said, oh, these books are, and it was like a negative, it was like a three star review. And it said like, these books are only for you if you like the Marvel movies. I'm like, yeah, it's a superhero book. What'd you expect? Well, yeah, I mean, it's not like you haven't made any secret about that. Yeah.
01:21:30
Speaker
But that's what I'm saying. People now watch a movie and then they get mad because the movie isn't what they, they say, okay, well, it should have been this, it should have been that, it should have been this. Well, it's not that type of movie. Exactly. I mean, this is a movie, like you said, it's a very, very basic plot. Once we get into it, it's, it's a cop movie with superpowers.

Genre Blending in 'Project Power'

01:21:54
Speaker
Yes. And once we get into that and it fought and
01:22:00
Speaker
It doesn't even go the way that we think a usual cop movie will go. Simply because of the main character, Robin that was following. And the fact that it gradually turns into like a government conspiracy type of thing. I mean, it really is like two or three different types of movie in one because we've got superhero stuff. You got the cop drama with Gordon Levitt. You have the government conspiracy. You have the family drama.
01:22:29
Speaker
that comes in there. And in between all of this, you have some pretty good action sequences. I especially liked the one where Jamie Foxx was fighting the guy that was on fire. The guy that overdoses on the thing and turns into the human torch. I'm talking about the Jim Hammond human torch, who was really nuclear. And he's trying to fight this guy. That was a great sequence. That was a good action sequence. They spent money on this one. That was good.
01:23:00
Speaker
All right, I think we're probably gonna have to wrap this up because Helena's just not having it today. Oh, listen. Quite all right, I'm glad that we got in, you know, to tell people about this movie. If you haven't seen already, and know what, probably a lot of people really haven't seen this movie. Because I really didn't hear a lot of buzz about this. You know, I mean, I was kind of surprised when I just saw it on Netflix one day and I'm like, how come it's got Jamie Foxx, it's got Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I'm surprised I didn't hear anything about it.
01:23:27
Speaker
I did not hear anything. Like I said Patricia told me about it. I said really? She said yeah. She was surprised I hadn't heard about it. There are two quick things I wanted to mention though. One is I love, I think one of my, maybe my favorite scene in the movie is when
01:23:42
Speaker
when Frank breaks into Robin's house and sneaks into the bathroom and pretends to be her mom's boyfriend. Her mom's boyfriend, yeah. And then she's afterwards, she's like, who the hell are you? But no, she goes with it if you notice. She very quickly catches on and says, okay, yeah, she goes with it. But I did like that, like even after the cops leave, like they don't,
01:24:09
Speaker
Like, she's still like, you know, who the hell are you? But they don't spend so much time dwelling on it, right? She just kind of like moves on with it. She's like, okay, well, this is the situation. Let's move on then. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and he goes back and forth between comedy and action so well. There's like a scene like at the beginning of the movie where he's confronting like a guy that's about to take the power pill and he's talking him out of doing it. And he's doing his Clint Eastwood impression. Clint Eastwood thing. And he does it so well.
01:24:39
Speaker
And then, you know, it's kind of, you know, he's serious, but there's this little fine line of comedy that he knows how to work in so well. He's really very good. I like him a lot, but I always like him. It's not, cause you don't get, cause the people probably forget that he got started in comedy, right? He was on third rock from the sun. Third rock from the sun, yeah. And so it is nice to see him get to tap back into that side of his abilities. Cause he's a really funny guy.
01:25:06
Speaker
As a matter of fact, nobody even thought he had the action hero thing until they saw him in Inception. Or for me, it was Brick. When I saw him in Brick, I'm like, OK. Oh, Brick. Brick was brilliant. Yes, yeah. Brick is absolutely brilliant. Would anybody ever ask me, OK, what movie is should I say? I would say, yeah, Brick. Exactly, yeah. Well, because that's what a lot of people probably don't know about.
01:25:30
Speaker
Because once you get into the rhythm of the language and you understand what they're doing, that is 1940's Raymond Chandler in high school. Once you get into that and you get into like, oh man, that's a movie I should watch every day. Yeah, yeah. And the other thing I want to quickly mention is I like how they touch on these little things like,

Real-World Issues in 'Project Power'

01:25:55
Speaker
government using black experimentation because it's in New Orleans. So yeah so it's the aftermath of Katrina and all that they're dealing with that and and taking it back to like the Tuskegee syphilis experiments and all that kind of thing that's worked into their in the background. I really like that they touched on those they didn't quite do a whole like they touch on these things they don't quite use a whole lot with it but I did like that they found real world basis for that kind of stuff.
01:26:21
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like you said, they don't beat you over the head with it, but they provide, which again, like we were talking about, when people talk about, oh, there's not enough world building. Well, that's world building right there. Right. Yeah. It's, you know, touching on a real life thing that happened to show you, you know, the logical extension. Well, you know what? This is still going on. Right. Exactly.
01:26:43
Speaker
It was good. All right. Okay. All right. So that does it for this week. Check out Project Power. It's on Netflix. So it's like, it's not a great movie. I wouldn't say it's something that you have to watch, but it's entertaining enough. It's a good, like I said earlier, it's a good B movie with the ACAS, A special effects, perfect for a Saturday afternoon. Yes, exactly. Save this for a Saturday afternoon.
01:27:10
Speaker
You're going to enjoy it. Trust me. I liked it. Like I said, I was not a big Jamie Foxx fan, but I would recommend this. You know what? It's good to see him do something once in a while where he's really not trying to win an Academy Award. You know, you don't have to knock it out of the park, you know, every time, you know, you do a movie sometimes. That's another thing too. It's like my wife's surprised and I told her, you know, he started out as a, as a comedian.
01:27:41
Speaker
He was, and she's like, really? And I'm like, yeah, he was, that's how I, like, so when he was in the rain. In Living Color, yeah. In Living Color, yeah. And so that was how I got introduced to him through In Living Color. Same thing with, you know, Jim Carrey and the Wayans brothers and all them. I came to them through In Living Color. And then he had his own, he had a sitcom. Oh, that's right. Yeah, the Jamie Foxx show. Jamie Foxx show, yeah. Yeah, I almost forgot about that.

Jamie Foxx's Acting Evolution

01:28:05
Speaker
Yeah, he started out in comedy. And then it wasn't until, I think it was collateral was the first really dramatic thing he did.
01:28:11
Speaker
Yeah. And then, of course, he went on to win the Academy Award for Ray. Right. Yes. And he's done quite a few others about Miami Vice. Miami Vice. Yeah. Although he was not, he wasn't really a big presence in Miami Vice. Yeah. I didn't care for that movie. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was, it was okay, but it was just, it was very slow. Miami Vice is the type of movie that I watch it and
01:28:40
Speaker
10 minutes after the end credits have rolled. If you ask me what it's about, I can't tell you. Yeah, yeah.

'Miami Vice' Criticism

01:28:46
Speaker
There's nothing in that movie that sticks to me. Yeah, I think I would like it more, if not for the fact that Michael Mann directed it. I was expecting a whole lot better for Michael Mann. I think what Michael Mann should have did, he should have did the movie in period, like the TV show, because if you're a fan of the TV show, that's what you're coming to see. Right, right, yeah.
01:29:07
Speaker
The movie version was just way too generic. It could have been any. It was, yeah. It didn't have to be Miami Vice. It was too generic. If he was going to do it, he should have did it in period, back during the bad old days of the drug wars and pastel colors. And the rolled up sleeves. Yeah, right. Well, that shit.
01:29:31
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fans of the TV show that went to see it. And they said, they said, what is this shit? Well, I mean, that's why, you know, Grand Theft Auto Vice City was so popular because it totally tapped into that aesthetic. That was more Miami Vice. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, so anyway, but yeah, Project Power, good enough entertaining to watch for Saturday afternoon, not going to win any awards, not going to be on anybody's top 10 list, but it's, it's entertaining enough.
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Absolutely, it does its job. Yes, yeah. Get you some snacks, clear some time, sit back and enjoy. It gets my recommendation on it. On a scale of one to 10, I give it an eight and a half. Yeah, I think that's pretty good recommendation. Okay, so that does it for, so Project Power was my pick off of your list of black superhero movies. So that means I'm tossing it back to you for next week. You know what I'm gonna say, right?
01:30:25
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I'm dreading what you're going to say. What I've been threatening for so long. Folks, come back next week. We're going to do steel. Oh, God. He said it. He said it. OK, so thank you for watching the Superhero Cinephiles. This is our last episode ever. Oh, all right. You only know why I'm doing this. I'm doing this because we joke about it for so long.
01:30:54
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And I say, you know what, if we do it, then now I gotta find a new running gag. I've drawn this one out for too long. So if we do it and get it out of the way, then I gotta find a new running gag. And also because I'm sick and tired of seeing Shaquille O'Neal hawking every damn thing on my TV. So this is my way of getting back at it. All right, so join us next week when we will be talking about steel, unfortunately.
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