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258 - Monster House (2006)
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“Oh!..So it's a girl house.”
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This week, in honor of the recent release of Maggie Gyllenhaal’s “The Bride!”, we are going to talk about another “girl monster” by discussing 2006’s Monster House. Evan “Jimmy” Wilson keeps Tucker company as he tries, and mostly succeeds, to keep this ship afloat!
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Transcript
Introduction & Host Dynamics
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No sequel for you.
00:00:22
Speaker
it's time for an in your face disgrace with the disenfranchise podcast were that podcast all about the franchises of won those films that fancy themselves fullfledged franchises before falling flat on their faces after the first film i'm your host nay your new host Well, old host, but also new host, ah Tucker. And I am here with, ah not as always, but he he's been here a lot of times, um past and future guest of the podcast, Evan Jimmy Wilson.
00:00:53
Speaker
Yeah, hi. How's it going, Jimmy? It's going well. Happy to be here. You're sideways right now. Look at look at you. um I have to... You're sideways boy right now. I don't know what happened.
00:01:04
Speaker
There you go. Yeah, I think that's better. Yep, now you can't watch reels. so yeah I don't know what you're talking about.
Monster House Nostalgia & Animation
00:01:15
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And we are here ah to talk about... What movie are we here to talk about, Jimmy? Monster House. That's right, 2006's Monster House.
00:01:28
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um This is a cool movie. ah We've both seen it before. ah i may be rushing into things a bit, but I've got a schedule to keep. So, Kitty, let me know um you know what your history with this film is. i you know You told me you had it on DVD, so you must have some sort of history with it.
00:01:47
Speaker
I do. I know how much y'all ah appreciate physical media. um Dude, yeah. Yeah, yeah. um So yeah, I actually saw a Monster House when it came out in theaters.
00:01:59
Speaker
Oh, word? Did you see it in 3D? The 3D was a big deal. I don't think I did. ah boo I think it was just the regular 2D. But, ah so it was 2006, so I would have been like would have been in like fifth grade, maybe sixth.
00:02:21
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We still lived on the ah east side of Indianapolis at that point. Oh, nice. So um ah we saw it at ah Washington Square Mall, actually, in the at the time brand new theater they had.
00:02:35
Speaker
Yeah, what's an ay I think it's an AMC, isn't it? Probably. Probably. Probably. um Get somebody to check that out, put it in the show notes. Yeah, like, what is what is fifth grade? Like, you're, like, 12 years old, right? like Yeah, about 11, 12-ish, yeah. Yeah, I think that it was, like, probably the perfect sort of, like, age range that I could have, like, fallen into for that movie coming out. You know what i mean?
00:03:04
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Absolutely. And I loved it. Like, it was when I started getting into, like, horror and sci-fi and that sort of stuff as a kid.
00:03:15
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And yeah, so I'm pretty sure they ran the intro scene with the little girl on the trike.
00:03:27
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I'm pretty sure they ran that as like a theatrical trailer at a certain point. um Nice. And I remember seeing it and being like, okay, I need to go see this movie. And i I loved it. and i still love it.
00:03:41
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and how so How many times would you say that you've ah you've seen it over the years? I mean, like, probably around 15 or 20. Damn. no So you're very very familiar.
00:03:54
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yeah very familiar told had it on DVD.
Plot Summary Game & Cast Discussion
00:03:58
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That's good because I forgot to tell you you have to do the plot in 60 all by yourself. Because we're bringing it back on the all new, exactly it's the same as it used to be before it went off the rails podcast. Just the same but brand new.
00:04:12
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Yes. ye Taking it back and making it new by turning it old again. Yes. I saw this movie when it came out too, ah though I think I think I probably saw it on DVD.
00:04:28
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I didn't go to the theater to see it, which I'm kind of upset that I didn't because um it was made for 3D, which 3D was kind of coming back in a big bad way around that time. They had the stereoscopic instead of like the red and blue. So like it looked really good.
00:04:46
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I would have liked to have seen it in 3D, but I did not. And i hadn't seen it. I remember liking it. But I hadn't seen it until I watched it yesterday. It's like it came out.
00:04:58
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Right. I always if if I think about it, I think of it fondly, but I've just never really had the urge to watch it again. But I was kind of excited ah when I decided that this was going to be the subject of this episode, because I was like, you know, I've kind of been meaning to watch that again for the last 20 years.
00:05:19
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Right. this is This year is the 20th anniversary of this year. Yeah, you're right. Wow. Jimmy. Yeah. yeah That's crazy. Yeah, I know. That's crazy. And for some reason, this is weird because I was talking to the boys in the in the group chat, um and for some reason, I remembered this being stop motion,
00:05:42
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and it's totally not. It's got that... It's got that like, I don't know, it's almost, it's like tangible, you know what I mean? Like it's a very um materialistic sort of animation style. i don't, you know, and i i don't know. It's like cartoon realism, you know?
00:06:02
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Well, it's motion capture. It's the same as... Oh, for real? Actually, they used the technology that Robert Zemeckis, who is a producer of this film... You probably know him from Back to the Future.
00:06:17
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He produced and directed all of those films. He produced The Frighteners. um he's He's kind of a big deal. But um why was I talking about Robert Zemeckis? Uh, the motion capture.
00:06:34
Speaker
Yes, thank you. He yeah used, first used the motion capture on Polar Express. That weird Tom Hanks movie where it's really creepy. Yeah, no, I remember. And so, I'm glad that, like, they used that same technology, and Polar Express had come out previous to this.
00:06:50
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And, um, I'm glad that they kind of went for a more unrealistic... character models in this one because the motion capture is very effective but i think with polar express it's just too much of that uncanny valley they aimed for too much concept realism whereas this has that like cartoon quality but it all it also operates like within this reality basically yeah you know yeah
00:07:21
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Like, I mean, it's, it's fantastic. I mean, just that explains a lot of the just fluidity in motion and um just how natural it feels. And even down to the way that they used facial expressions, like throughout the whole movie, I thought was fantastic. You know, it just really, it, you know, and it's, I remember seeing it and, you know, I think it's initial like push, like,
00:07:51
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um like commercially was, um you know, them trying to market it more as like a kid's movie. ah
00:08:02
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I've seen it, you know, over a dozen times and I'm like, I don't know. It just keeps growing on me. think it's fantastic. Like I was, I was talking to my friend and yeah,
00:08:17
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I was like, it's honestly like it's a masterpiece for what they like set out to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's fantastic movie. I think it works really well, and I also think that it's a good middle-of-the-road kind of like, I don't know what I want to watch.
00:08:37
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Well, there's always Monster House. Because it's easy. It's ah it's a quick 90 minutes. It gets in and gets out, and it's a lot of fun along the way.
00:08:48
Speaker
You've got a great cast, which we'll talk about a little bit later, and a lot of the people behind the scenes just very prolific in their individual fields. um But in order to get to that, in order to talk about the cast and all the other fun things, we have to do a segment that we haven't done on this podcast in quite a long time, which, if I may ah reveal a little bit of behind the scenes here, um the plot in 60 seconds was a a segment on this podcast originally from the beginning until I don't know when. But I enjoyed that segment so much because, you know, Jimmy, that I started out as a fan.
00:09:27
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Somehow I'm hosting this thing now and I just started out as a guy listening to this podcast. From janitor to CEO, buddy. Yes, yes. In just a few short years. Yeah. Living the American dream at the Disenfranchised Pod.
00:09:42
Speaker
Yes, but so the plot in 60 was always one of my favorite segments. And so um they would always in the early episodes, they would always allude to a coin of justice, which would be the coin they would flip to see who would do the plot in 60.
00:09:59
Speaker
Well, I actually got us a coin of justice. um It's from some European company country. I don't remember, but it's it's Lady Justice. And it it literally says justice on it.
00:10:12
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And it is a big old heavy silver coin. I think Steven has it, but yeah, it was, I got that. And I also bought myself a little egg timer as the official plot 60 egg timer.
00:10:27
Speaker
I haven't used that in over a year. Um, today I'm just, I remember the first time I came on, like I did the plot and 60 and I think I've been on at least two times since then. And i don't,
00:10:41
Speaker
Maybe somebody else did the plot in 60 the other time, but certainly the last time I was on, there was no plot in 60. but Well, the what we usually do is we have the guests do it, but they have the opportunity to opt out. That's what we used to do.
00:10:58
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um But now that I'm running this bitch, there is no opportunity to opt out. You have to do the plot in 60. There's no other option. Yeah, why would you opt out? I refused.
00:11:09
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i will I will stop this. but i will Jimmy, i will I will drive this car off a motherfucking cliff. I will turn around and we will go right back home. No, please don't. okay That's what I thought. No, it's like being on Hot Ones and being like, yeah, I'll do Hot Ones, but nothing too spicy, bro.
00:11:28
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like Okay, well. Sorry. like So that being said, we are going to do the plot in 60, which is a se a segment of the show where we just give all the exposition, the entire plot of the film in 60 seconds or your podcast is free.
00:11:47
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um And today, Jimmy, our guest Jimmy is going to do the plot in 60 seconds. So, Jimmy, you have 60 seconds. I'm putting it on the clock right now. Beep, boop, boop, boop, boop.
00:12:00
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And ah whenever you're ready, I will start your time.
00:12:04
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I'm ready. Go. All right. So um our main character is ah at home. His parents are leaving for a vacation. is the day before Halloween.
00:12:17
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ah Babysitter gets there. Yeah. And he starts seeing some stuff about the house across the street. um Him and his friend are hanging out and they end up going over to the house.
00:12:33
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It spooks them. It comes alive and they run away. they end up making an alliance with this cool girl who they don't know. And they both have crushes on her.
00:12:44
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So now there's a bit of a split between the boys and they're both trying to impress her. They end up getting inside the house and um the old man who used to live there is out. And then he ah tells them about how his wife fell and died the house. And now they have to destroy the house. And as the main character said, the house turned into a monster. And so I had to blow it up.
00:13:10
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Three, two, one. Beautiful. Perfect. You did it. you You did. Everybody does it. I do it as well. You fall into that trap of trying to over explain. I know.
00:13:22
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And then once you hear 30 seconds, you're like, fuck, I've gotten through like the first 10 minutes of the movie. Yeah. So I knew i knew while watching this, I was like, I'm not going to say a darn thing about that intro scene.
00:13:35
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I'm not going to say a darn thing about the cold intro. though No, oof no. At least not in the 60. No, no. well I mean, I'm sure we'll discuss it at some point. I mean, I felt like i i felt like i hit most of the the the heavy points, right? yeah know Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, just a plot outline. Like, the the intro the introduction isn't really... it is exposition, but it's more character building.
00:14:01
Speaker
Yeah. For both the house and for Nevercracker. But also, it's like... really sets the stage well for the way the movie looks and feels, which I really want to get into eventually. I do. I do love it when movies do that. Another film that comes to mind that does that, um, is the, I think it came out in 2001, written and directed by Christopher McQuarrie, who is the guy who got famous for writing the usual suspects. And now he directs all the mission impossible movies. Mm-hmm.
00:14:37
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um But the way of the gun, the first five minutes of that movie has nothing to do with the rest of the movie. It just introduces you to the two main characters. And it gives you an idea of what you're getting into.
00:14:53
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It's kind of like, hey, if you didn't if you're not into this, you should just turn it off. Right, right. And i I do appreciate Monster House for doing that, too, because it does it really sets the tone.
00:15:07
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And you do get a littlear little character building in there as well, with it still not really relating to... anything else in the story except the girl gets her tricycle back at the end. Yeah, and and also great storytelling to tie that back in, you know?
00:15:23
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Well, if you introduce a broken tricycle in the first act, Jimmy, you gotta do something with it in the third. That's what I always heard. That's just screenwriting 101, man. Yeah, dude. Yeah.
00:15:35
Speaker
wow You want to talk about this cast real quick before we before we move on? Yeah, man. Please set the stage. So we've got ah Mitchell muso Muso, who is he is the voice of the main character DJ. And this guy apparently um he's a musician as well, because in his credits are a bunch of music videos and he is named as the artist.
00:16:02
Speaker
Right. yeah remember I thought that was interesting. I watched this in October, I think, for Halloween Horror Movie Madness Month. And um obviously didn't disappoint.
00:16:16
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um But this was one of those, like, I had revisited it after maybe four or five years of not watching it. And yeah, he's one of the few people in the cast where, um you know, he's not really, i mean, there's a couple people who just aren't,
00:16:33
Speaker
They didn't really take off, you know, and then the rest of the cast is insanely stacked, you know? Yeah, well, this kid, he's, I mean, he's still working. Yeah, I'm just, you know, you don't really, he's not really, like...
00:16:47
Speaker
Well, and two is, you know, voice acting is a different thing, whereas a lot of the people who were cast were um cast based off of, you know, their work outside of voice acting. You know what i mean? So, yes, but, you know, all props because, you know, I, you know, to everybody, including um what was his name again? Yeah.
00:17:09
Speaker
I've already moved on. Let me go back here. Mitchell Musso. Mitchell Musso, yeah. Mitchell. Yeah, yeah. I thought he did a fantastic job. I think everybody did a fantastic job. I thought too.
00:17:20
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Yeah. i don't I don't think there's a bad performance in this film. And the fact that we know that it's motion captured means that, I mean, they were they did all the physical actions as well.
00:17:31
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um So, I mean, then it's not just a voice performance. Yeah, really fair. kind of Fair. Go back on that. um Now, the kid who played ah Chowder, his name is Sam Lerner, and it looks like he's he's in a lot of stuff.
00:17:47
Speaker
I don't know that I've seen him. I don't know that I... Well, he was in an episode of Workaholics. That's something that we would have seen. Yeah, for sure. At some point. Of course, i don't I didn't recognize him. as him But yeah, he's still working, too. mean, a lot still lot of voice acting gigs, it looks like.
00:18:06
Speaker
Yeah. Now, here's an interesting one. Spencer Locke, who's the gal that plays Jenny. um That might sound familiar to you because she was in one of our first straight up ah straight up episodes ah for the film Detention.
Character Analysis & Behind-the-Scenes Insights
00:18:23
Speaker
She was in Detention. You remember Detention, Jimmy? Yeah, barely. Maybe that movie.
00:18:28
Speaker
She was the gal who switched time traveled and switched brains with her mother. So she was back in 1992 and her mom was in present day.
00:18:41
Speaker
That's that's Spencer Locke. And she's the gal who played Gina. Of course, she was way young then because she's. Yeah, for sure. 2006. And she was. She's only two years older than me. Yeah. 91. So she would have been like 13, 14.
00:18:57
Speaker
Yeah. And of course, I mean, what is there to say about Steve Buscemi that hasn't already been said? I thought. oh my God, dude. Specifically his physical performance in this film. It's insane.
00:19:09
Speaker
very well suited for animation. Like he, he knew exactly what he was doing. Uh, it was a very, ah very focused performance. Uh, and it could, it could have been a throwaway. You don't really do need to do that much in that role. All you have to do is, is be a little scary.
00:19:27
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ah But he I think he kind of went above and beyond. Of course, we have ah the late greats Catherine O'Hara and Fred Willard as the parents. Catherine O'Hara, she just died this year. R.I.P. And b Fred Willard died in 2020.
00:19:42
Speaker
both um Both veterans of a lot of the Christopher Guest mockumentary films. they Catherine O'Hara was not in Spinal Tap, but of course that was directed by Rob Reiner. But I mean, the ones after that that were directed by...
00:19:57
Speaker
Christopher Guest, stuff like a Mighty Wind, Waiting for Guffman. um What's the one about the dog show? Best in Show. They were both definitely in those. ah Also, I believe they were both part of um SCTV.
00:20:12
Speaker
They're both Canadian, I believe. mean, wouldn't surprise me. Actually, so ah Maggie Gyllenhaal is the voice of voice of the babysitter Z. So good. um She is the reason that we're doing this movie this week because she has a film that she both directed and is starring in. I'm not sure if she wrote it or not, but it's called The Bride, and it's a take on The Bride of Frankenstein. Yeah, no, I've seen a trailer for it.
00:20:43
Speaker
Yes, it looks fantastic. And it's got ah Christopher Bale. yeah I'm sorry. Christian Bale. Christian Bale as the monster. as as As Frankenstein. There, I said it.
00:20:55
Speaker
I called him Frankenstein. Yeah. What going to do about it? Phone's off the hook already. Look, Dr. Frankenstein made him, dude. Like, brought him to life.
00:21:05
Speaker
So he is technically a Frankenstein. Like, that would be... I feel like that would be his last name. Yeah, we can call him Junior. go call him Frankenstein because hate when people were like, actually, Frankenstein was the name of the doctor, you not the monster.
00:21:21
Speaker
I'm like, fuck you. that's that's his That's his boy, dude. That's his kid. That's Lil' Frankenstein. In Hollywood, it's Lil' Frankenstein. But around here, it's Lil' Frankenstein.
00:21:35
Speaker
Okay. I support you. Thank you. Yes, but that's... thank you yes but that's Yeah, this this crazy hill you're dying on. I support you, dude Yes, i I love those crazy hills. They're my favorite to die on.
00:21:50
Speaker
ah But yeah, that's the reason we're doing mount Monster House, because I wanted to tie it into something that was coming out this week. um I still do need to see Scream 7, which is a higher priority for me, but I would like to see The Bride in the theater. That would be fantastic. If not, I'll catch it on streaming. I am excited to see it, though.
00:22:07
Speaker
Yeah. Just based on the trailer. And I've always liked Maggie Gyllenhaal. I think she's fantastic. I like her brother, too. there's nothing like a ah There's nothing like a good horror movie, you know, in the middle of the year. Because, you know, I mean, it's all it's like a hat on a hat in October around spooky season, right? like But, you know, when you're out of spooky season and a movie, like, really spooks you, is, I feel like, a testament to the filmmaking itself. so Yep.
00:22:37
Speaker
Agreed. Also, we have skateboarder professional skateboarder turned actor turned photographer Jason Lee as the voice of Bones, the ah the the musician. The scary, mean, bad, rude, cool dude musician. Honestly, he he does suck. He sucks. it's the worst Bones is the worst.
00:23:02
Speaker
And you almost think, like the first scene he's in, you almost think he's going to be cool. But then not. Yeah, you'd hope. Yeah, no. And then he like rips. Well, he comes in. He's like, you know, he's talking to the kid. He's kind of, you know, being cool with him. But then he instantly turns into a fucking shithead.
00:23:18
Speaker
This is it's ah my name's Earl. My name is Earl's Jason Lee. Yes. Brody Bruce of of the Viewers universe films. Also, Banky Edwards is another character. That's awesome. And he plays Asriel in Dogma.
00:23:35
Speaker
So he plays at least three different characters in the VUIS universe. Interesting. Yeah. Speaking of dogma, just got that 4k. Uh, it looks fantastic. Uh, if you didn't know this, Jimmy dogma has not been released widely on physical media.
00:23:52
Speaker
ah Since it came out, because of that mean, old, nasty man. ah Also, I might, you know, I'm hesitant to say rapist, but he's a rapist. Harvey Weinstein.
00:24:08
Speaker
He's the reason we haven't had Dogma. Right. But ah we have it now. So, fuck that guy. But now we have it. You know, maybe the audience doesn't know that, but I certainly remember these late night talks that we've had specifically about dogma. and yeah trying Trying to find the the slick little versions on YouTube that get deleted after a day just so we can watch it. Yeah, they like mirror the image or something. Yeah, no, yes yeah.
00:24:38
Speaker
Oh, man. Also, we have Kevin James as the main police officer. So good. Kevin James, for me, he's... he's sometimes I think he's really great.
00:24:51
Speaker
Other times I think, you know, he's fine, but I really liked him in this and I really like him in Becky. Speaking of Becky is getting a third film. They've already wrapped shooting ah for the third Becky film, Jimmy. It's too bad. Becky didn't come about until after we lived together, but Becky is now a trilogy of films i heard about about this little gal who don't take no shit from anybody and each film it's a different comedic actor being scary as fuck and trying to kill this girl and instead she kills like all her boys and him like she's a badass and Kevin James is the the bad guy the neo-nazi bad guy in the first one and he is terrifying i feel like you told me about this
00:25:43
Speaker
Kevin James is terrifying and Sean William Scott plays the white supremacist bad guy in the second one. And he is fucking terrifying. Jimmy. believable Who knew comedians could like give good, you know, dramatic performances. Who knew? I mean, if only people had thought maybe it's about timing.
00:26:03
Speaker
You've seen Jordan Peele's. Yes, i heidecker I look at myself in the mirror often and i have a photo of you, Jimmy, that I glare at from time to time. So, yes, I've seen us. have a couple photos of us together, actually.
00:26:16
Speaker
Aw. One in my vehicle that I gaze at often. So, yes, I have viewed us Wow. Jimmy. Wow. I've looked at us a little bit. That's really inspiring. thank you. Jordan Peele's us. Yeah, what about it? Oh, was he in there? He was in there. Tim Heidecker, yeah.
00:26:36
Speaker
Oh, well, I mean, he's done a few things I've seen where he's given really good dramatic performances. actually Well, like side pieces, apparently him and Wareheim are working on a horror movie together. That's in like production right now.
00:26:50
Speaker
I heard about that. know But he, he gives a fantastic performance and us. And we've had this talk before too, to where, um you know, comedic actors kind of, you know,
00:27:05
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they kind of have to do a little bit extra in terms of like comedy for timing and and delivery and, um, you know, and so, you know, stepping into something like horror, you know, I don't know, it doesn't, it doesn't surprise me, you know, yeah but it's fantastic to see, you know, especially when you're, you know, inverting a crowds, um,
00:27:28
Speaker
maybe like pre expectations on who this actor is or something like that. You know, i mean, hasn't Tom Hanks, I know Robin Williams did, um a couple of spooky movies. He did that. Um, he did that, uh, one hour photo or whatever.
00:27:45
Speaker
es He was also in ah Christopher Nolan's Insomnia opposite Al Pacino. haven't seen that one. killer but It's really good. You should check it out. It's it's a remake of, like I think, a Swedish film, some sort of Eastern European film.
00:28:00
Speaker
um It's the only Christopher Nolan film. It's the only film that Christopher Nolan has directed that he did not write. itself ah But it is really good. It's very intense. It's called insomnia because it's Al Pacino is this detective that comes up to Alaska to help them like catch the serial killer.
00:28:19
Speaker
And he just can't he can't do the the the sun out all night thing. And this man gets no sleep. And he's trying to solve this case while like barely holding on by a fucking thread.
00:28:31
Speaker
And it gets really surreal. And it's, it's really good. Great performances all around. Hillary Swank is in it as well. Swanking it up. Swanking i love it the fuck up. I love it. Yes. The next Karate Kid herself.
00:28:45
Speaker
Wow. Anyway, we kind of got off with we got off topic, but yeah I agree, though, is like Kevin James can be cast in certain roles that um I don't know if he can typically, you know, pull off. You know, it's, you know, but this is not is's not the exception. I think he was perfectly cast for this role as the silly dumb cop, you know.
00:29:08
Speaker
and then I gotta be honest, they said their scenes are some of the funniest in the entire movie. Yeah, no, I agree. And I was about to say that the same can be said about Nick Cannon. Surprisingly, because outside of that one Chappelle show sketch...
00:29:24
Speaker
Outside of that and this movie, I have never thought Nick Cannon was funny or appealing in any way. nothing Nothing against him. I'm sure he's a fantastic man.
00:29:35
Speaker
He's got like 100 kids, so he's got to be like at least charming. Fun to be around. He got canceled or something, right? Or called out at the very least. Oh, I don't know. I don't keep up on that stuff. It ruins things for me if I know what people do. It ruins it for me.
00:29:51
Speaker
But um I grew up with Nick Cannon doing ah a ton of Nickelodeon stuff. Oh, wasn't he on all that for a while? I can't remember if he was on all that, but I'm pretty sure he had his own show and he was like their go-to guy for like specials or um he did a bunch of the slime time stuff and bumpers and all that stuff. I mean, so yeah, I mean, I, I knew Nick Cannon as a young lad, you know? Yes, he certainly was. He was a Nickelodeon personality. It was a little, a little after my time.
00:30:31
Speaker
ah For sure. We've, we've got almost, we've got almost 10 years between us. so We span, we span the like golden era of like, you know, Nickelodeon and all that stuff. There's some overlap for sure. Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
00:30:44
Speaker
Yes. Also, we have John... john hater John Heater. How do you say his last name? John Heater. There you go. ah He plays Skull, the the pizza delivery guy that plays the video game. Interesting thing here that I learned by reading the trivia, which I never would have put together on my own, but...
00:31:03
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He is in a band with bones. The band on the cassette tape and on Z's shirt is Skull and Bones. I just thought that was a coincidence.
00:31:15
Speaker
No, dude. they They are in a band together. They don't interact until the end of the film. But yeah, that's that's their band. I gotta circle back real quick. Nick Cannon did have the Nick Cannon show.
00:31:27
Speaker
That was nice. Before Wylan Out? Yeah, starting in 2002. But he i'm not I'm on IMDb. He doesn't look like he's credited for all that.
00:31:40
Speaker
so Okay, I thought maybe he had been a cast member of that. I do know he was in, ah previously covered on this podcast, ah the film, the remake of George Romero's Day of the Dead, directed by Steve Miller. Oh, yeah, that's right. And he played an army guy in that, and he's so unfunny in that movie that it's actually funny.
00:32:04
Speaker
yeah It's funny how just not how hard he tries to be funny, but he's not. yeah um Yeah, I remember seeing Drumline, which is not a good film. And if I remember correctly, it's not a great performance by him either. but i would not know. so He does a great Chris Rock impression in this movie, basically.
00:32:27
Speaker
Nice. I don't know. do like Chris Rock. i had to look it up, you know, because I was like, I know this guy's voice, but I can't put my finger on it. Oh, Nick Cannon. All right. yeah But John Heater was riding off the heels of Napoleon Dynamite at that point. Yeah, that's how he got cast in this. That's that's what happened was the the creators of this film saw him in that movie and they were like, hey, let's that's the guy. Yeah. And this was um this was a rare instance in filmmaking where the...
00:33:01
Speaker
original cast list, the like the the dream list of the director... was he got everybody. He got everybody he wanted. Like, there was no backup list. Everybody that's in this film is exactly who he wanted. It's like so stacked. It's pretty rare. It's like royalty, dude.
00:33:19
Speaker
It's crazy. Well, speaking speaking of stacked, ah the voice of the house and um of Nevercracker's a deceased, well, sort of deceased wife, is the goat, the sexiest voice in Hollywood.
00:33:34
Speaker
Peggy Sue got married herself. Miss Kathleen Turner. well
00:33:45
Speaker
Serial mom herself. Kathleen Turner. Boy, I tell you what. there's There aren't many things I wouldn't do for that woman. My goodness.
00:33:59
Speaker
Just for that voice. It's so husky. But also so so feminine. I love it. I love it. i've i've Since I was a child, I have been a fan of Kathleen Turner because she's fantastic and a really great actor um and she's beautiful, but mostly because of that voice.
00:34:22
Speaker
Wow. I love that for you, dude. o
00:34:28
Speaker
One more. h There it is. Okay.
00:34:32
Speaker
So yeah, that is a pretty stacked cast. It's not a huge cast. It's it's a smaller ensemble, but sir Got a lot of lot of heavy hitters in there and a lot of really talented people who aren't exactly A-listers, but boy, did they get the job done.
00:34:51
Speaker
I think everybody was great in this. I do kind of wish we had gotten some more. i wish we had gotten some more Catherine O'Hara and Fred Willard because I guarantee you most of their dialogue between the two of them in this movie was improvised because that is what they do best.
00:35:08
Speaker
That's what you hire them for. Specifically, if you hire them together and have them playing opposite each other as a married couple, that's why you hire them.
00:35:21
Speaker
So all of their dialogue was just rapid fire, so clever, so funny. and I wish we had gotten more of them, but I mean, I understand why we didn't, because the story kind of demands that the parents get out of there right quick.
00:35:36
Speaker
For sure, yeah. So we can move ahead. Like, screenplay-wise, it makes sense, but also I i do like them. You would have wanted, like, one phone call home.
00:35:48
Speaker
You know? Just one. Something like that, yeah. One little extra scene. Yeah. One little extra scene. of Speaking of little scenes at the end of the movie, which is where they kind of come back, all the scenes during the credits where you see the people who have previously gotten eaten by the house and what happened to them, they come back.
00:36:08
Speaker
they had to include They didn't include those originally. When they sent it to the MPAA, the MPAA said the only way that you're going to get a PG on this is if you show at the end that the people who got eaten are still alive.
00:36:23
Speaker
Wow. Interesting. they had not done that, they would have gotten a PG-13. Wow. wow
00:36:31
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i think I think it works, though, because it's so far at the end, and you're glad to see those characters, but also enough time has passed to where like you you've accepted that they are gone.
00:36:42
Speaker
Yeah. And when they come back, you're like, oh, oh really? Okay, I'm into that. But the it it makes it, when they do go, it's still scary because you don't see them.
00:36:55
Speaker
Like, you think they're just straight up dead. You don't know where, like, when they go into the house and, like, basically the mouth or the throat of the house, like, that looks scary. I don't think you'd survive that fall. Mm-mm.
00:37:08
Speaker
Is what I'm saying. So it's effective when it needs to be. And then at the end, they bring up. It's almost like a play, though, which is nice because like in a play, like when you go to the theater and see a live production of a play, you know, there might be characters that die and stuff. But then when it's over and we're doing bows and everything, they come back out.
00:37:30
Speaker
So like, yeah, they're OK. Everything is cool. like You feel good about it. And I think that kind of works. I mean, I think it works. It works for this film. it works for this kind of film to where they're, they're, they're very carefully, toe treading that line of being too intense.
00:37:52
Speaker
for kids, but also respecting the intelligence and emotional intelligence of children to not like pussyfoot around shit. Oh yeah. I think that's what this film does best is it really does. It walks that line and it does it really, really well because it is scary and it is intense and shit goes down.
00:38:14
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But it's not ever anything that ah a kid 8, 10 years old couldn't handle. Oh, for sure. Yeah. It's kind of the perfect throwback to... Yeah, go ahead.
00:38:25
Speaker
No, it just plays it it plays it well for all audiences, though, to where, o you know, it's it's a like cliche example, but something like Stand By Me is sure the main cast is children, but that's not necessarily the target audience, right? Yeah. Yeah. And this movie especially, I i completely agree. this ah The way they made this movie just like doesn't it doesn't dumb it down for kids, right? like you know it's There's no pandering, I guess is the way to put it. you know what I mean? yeah like
00:38:59
Speaker
But it's crazy. they got They got away with a lot. There's some genuinely like frightening imagery. um There's beer drinking and ah drug stealing. and drugging a house with cough medicine. Yes, indeed. Well, they tried. Cops straight up drinks it at one point. like yeah know it's It's crazy they got away with half of that stuff with a PG rating because the tone is PG-13. Even if the ratings doesn't reflect that. you know
00:39:32
Speaker
Yes, I agree. now I completely and totally agree. yeah i mean There's like one scene in particular. there's It's the Nosferatu um homage they did when DJ falls asleep and the shadow creeps in and the hand is coming out to reach him and stuff it's fantastic fantastic stuff yeah I quite enjoyed that too yeah quite quite
Directorial Vision & Screenwriting Contributions
00:40:02
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enjoyed. Well, now that we've spoken about the cast at great length, whether anyone wanted us to or not, um let's ah let's maybe talk about some of the the behind the scenes here. We'll start with the director, Gil Keenan. Keenan? Keenan?
00:40:18
Speaker
Keenan? I'm going to say Keenan, though I might be wrong. It's K-E-N-A-N. um I don't think this was his first film. of The most recent... Well, he directed a short before this, so this was his first feature-length film.
00:40:35
Speaker
um He also directed the remake of Poltergeist, which I have not seen and really have no interest in, except for Sam Rockwell. like I do want to support Sam Rockwell, so I'll probably see it eventually. There'll be a day where I'm like, man, I really want to look at Sam Rockwell for a bit. And I'll be like, well, I haven't i haven't watched that Poltergeist remake.
00:40:56
Speaker
It was a Sam Rockwell day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. um He also directed an episode of the Scream television series, myself being ah probably the only person who watched and enjoyed that television series.
00:41:15
Speaker
I understand. I remember you loved that movie. Well, I love all the movies, but you know, there was a TV series. Yes. Sorry. There was a show on MTV. And it was it was good. But like the thing is, you get a new Scream movie every couple years for a while.
00:41:36
Speaker
And then goes away for a while. get another one that goes away for a while. You get a whole new trilogy. But I mean, there's still a couple of years between that. So it makes it a little more believable than an entire season, entire two seasons of television.
00:41:51
Speaker
um where people are just getting offed. Like, it's the same kids, yeah the same kids. And they, they realized they had run into a wall in the second season and they just, just rebooted it completely in the third season, which was both a blessing and a curse. Yeah. um I enjoyed that season, but I did miss a lot of the characters that I, I really enjoyed from the original.
00:42:17
Speaker
cast and continuity. um He also directed a movie called A Boy Called Christmas. I don't know what the fuck that is, but I don't really have any interest in it, I don't think. Why would they name him that?
00:42:28
Speaker
I don't know. His most recent directorial effort is a little movie that flew under the radar that I doubt anybody saw or heard of, Jimmy. ah Tell me if you've heard of this. It's very obscure.
00:42:42
Speaker
It's called Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. You heard about this? You seen this, Jimmy? You heard about this? one of those movies where it's Halloween time and I'm like, well, should I watch the whole franchise or just like one and two?
00:42:59
Speaker
i never I never got around to it, but I'm i'm aware of its existence. But in the same is this the one with... God, what's his name? Dude who played like Ant-Man. Paul like all right Yeah, isn't Paul Rudd in this movie? he's in He's in Frozen Empire and he's in the previous film too. He's a carryover character from from the reboot.
00:43:24
Speaker
Or the requel, I guess you could say. The the gender swap one?
00:43:31
Speaker
No, no, not the not the 2016 Ghostbuster, which i thought that was great. Oh, it was great. It was good. Yeah, it was it was fine. ah I like Paul Feig, but we we have issues. I think he does not.
00:43:45
Speaker
He's a great director. um He's really good with ah people who like to improvise, which is awesome. But you're saying he doesn't understand the feminine experience. I get it Yeah. No, as an editor, he is lacking. He's a afraid cut. He edits his own movies, too.
00:44:04
Speaker
Any. I don't know. ah But whoever does it. oh He hires. Yeah. They just he just leaves everything in Like, you gotta cut at some point. You gotta to move on at some point. And he'll leave a joke in that is funny for the first, like, 30 seconds, but then it just keeps fucking going. And you're like, dude, we could be doing other things. See the Bride Maid? That was cool, but...
00:44:32
Speaker
He's Bridesmaids, yes. Yeah. That was my problem with that movie. Well, yeah, I recognized that specific complaint from you. I was like, that sounds like the Bridesmaids complaint. I do like that. It's funny, but I get why people like it, but fuck, man. Like, cut something out. I knew Any Paul Feig movie, at the very least, you could shave about 20 to 30 minutes off of it, and you would have a much better better consistently paced experience which is a goal of most directors is to to have a good pace you know yeah i feel like i've seen bridesmaids but it was a it was a while ago for sure know yeah yeah
00:45:15
Speaker
ah So weird that like his first. His first film was an animated film, but he hasn't done any animated films since though. Honestly, since this was motion capture, he was probably just directing those segments and then just kind of signing off on the animation that went on top of it, you know, so probably more of the mocap and dialogue director and then animation just kind of did their thing. And he was like, yeah, that looks good. That looks good. Maybe not that. i mean, yeah, that sounds realistic for sure.
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a specific sort of situation. Most animation directors kind of, they tend to be from that background ah or continue to stay in it, but it makes perfect sense that he wouldn't because he didn't, I mean, he was just, he was directing actual actors doing actual things, so.
00:46:02
Speaker
um the the person who has the story credit on this film is Dan Harmon. Of course, we know Dan Harmon from a little show called Community. And another little show that that just will not fucking die, unfortunately.
00:46:23
Speaker
um Straight up ah Richard and Mortimer, I believe it's called. that what they call that? yo The kids are calling it? Yeah, that's what I call it. um Yeah, who does it these days? Come on. ah Yeah, Dan Harmon, he's done a lot of stuff. um Like i said, Community, Rick and Morty.
00:46:45
Speaker
He has a ah lot of really cool, like kind of outsider art shows that he's done, like kind of variety shows and animation showcases and stuff that I've always thought were really interesting.
00:47:01
Speaker
Overall, I think he's kind of a bristly fellow. He seems like someone who would be kind of hard to get along with, but I think he's a very talented person, and I like most of what he's done, at least on a base level. Like, we were talking about Rick and Morty a second ago, sort of.
00:47:20
Speaker
and i i did enjoy the first couple seasons of that but yeah that that shows a lot and like after a while i'm just like i know it's a lot gets to be too much for me real fucking quick when it comes to those kind of shows um i get why people still like it but it's just like i respect it but it's not i'm you know i'm one to where i was a you know, really a big fan was watching the shows premiere, like live on adult swim. And yeah, I fell off. It's, you know, I'll still like binge a season, you know, when it comes up, but, um, you know, I've invested enough time and, and it's, it's good enough, but yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess this is the point where we say RIP smiling friends. Um,
00:48:12
Speaker
Or pulling the plug before it became too bloated. And, you know, I mean, sure, would love more episodes. But, you know, it's, you know, it kind of like wears thin a certain point. You know, you don't want to overstay your welcome. so as As Judd says in the original filmed version of Pet Sematary, sometimes dad is better.
00:48:37
Speaker
you know do you Is it better to burn out, Jimmy, or to fade away? I argue of the time, burn out. ah yeah Do your thing. Get out of there on top. You don't risk ruining it.
00:48:50
Speaker
yeah The Simpsons. yeah I'm sorry. I had something my throat there. I don't know what that was. oh Family guy. Oops. go I tell you what. Speaking of Family Guy, though, side note, small tangent.
00:49:05
Speaker
um And it kind of has to do with this film because this film does have some. I think it takes a little bit of influence from the Burbs, a Jadante joint starring the aforementioned Tom Hanks ye from the Polar Express in one of his my favorite comedic roles.
00:49:24
Speaker
of his. um There is a new series, a television series based on that film. It's streaming on Peacock. It stars Kiki Palmer.
00:49:36
Speaker
And the dude what plays the plays Colin, the energy vampire and what we do in the shadows and Paula Pell is in it. um It's really good. And I brought it up for a reason.
00:49:52
Speaker
Why did I bring it up, Jimmy? I was going on a tangent, and instead, i went on a tangent about my tangent and forgot what my original tangent was. Weird. Oh!
00:50:04
Speaker
Family guy. So Seth MacFarlane was one of the producers on the Burbs series. Right. um And I just ah wanted to say that overall, I thought it was really good. I enjoyed it.
00:50:18
Speaker
I was kind of surprised that they made it for more of a mature audience than the original. Because the original is a PG film, a very kind of like it's.
00:50:29
Speaker
It's an it is very similar to this film in the way that it is creepy and kind of scary, but you can watch it with the family. They don't cross any of those specific lines. Yeah. yeah And it's funny and hilarious without being crude or or too blue, which I like crude and blue humor. But sometimes I also appreciate when somebody can keep it relatively clean.
00:50:57
Speaker
Yeah. You know, because that's hard. to It's really hard to do. I think ah part of being funny is being shocking. You know, and subversive. So, like, of course, being crude and using blue humor is obviously the best way to go. So it is very difficult to make something clean. It's the lazy man's way out. Make something clean, but not sanitized. You know what I mean?
00:51:22
Speaker
Oh, yeah. So anyway... I think that's why, like... ah Sorry, quick tangent. No, you're good. That's why like something like Nathan Fielder's, like, comedy is so... you perfect and accessible. you know i mean, he goes right up to that line and yet there's no, i don't know, there's no crudeness or, you know, ah dumbing it down or whatever. so Yeah.
00:51:48
Speaker
Oh, my poor back. ah The other story credit on this is Rob Schraub. And based on what I saw in my research, he basically has worked on everything that Dan Harmon has worked on. So I think they're kind of maybe writing partners or frequent collaborators. For sure. Yeah.
00:52:10
Speaker
They wrote an original screenplay to this um and it was shopped around and it was purchased, I believe, by Sony and it just never happened and it never happened and it never happened.
00:52:24
Speaker
And then Gil Keenan, the director, he got a hold of the script and he really liked it and he brought it. of He kind of. brought it in and said, Hey, I think I want to do this. Um, but he wanted to rewrite it. So, uh, that's why when you watch this movie and you see that Dan Harmon and one of his frequent collaborators are, have a story credit, but it doesn't really have, it doesn't feel like a Dan Harmon joint is because they basically wrote the story
00:53:01
Speaker
And then um a lady by the name of Pamela Petler came in and wrote the script of
00:53:12
Speaker
With or for Gil Keenan. Now she is known for a lot of animated films. She wrote The Corpse Bride. she ro She wrote Nine. Which is another animated film that Tim Burton was ye ah involved in.
00:53:29
Speaker
and before that she wrote a lot of TV. So she came in and kind of. i don't want to say that she sanitized it. But I think she did kind of make it.
00:53:41
Speaker
from what I've read, made it a little more accessible right for for a bit of a wider audience. And I'd love to read that original screenplay, though, because I'm sure it was i'm sure it was different. I don't know if it would be better, but it would definitely be something, a little bit of a different beast.
00:53:58
Speaker
And I'd be interested to see what ah that beast was. Now, unfortunately, Dan Harmon was a little bit butthurt by this, and he was kind of all over social media at the time.
00:54:10
Speaker
um Kind of just shitting on the movie for not being the movie he wrote, which is unfortunate. Like I said, he can be a prickly dude. Oh, yeah, for sure. isn't surprising he He strikes me as he's great in the field that he works in, but he strikes me as the sort of guy that you would get caught in a two-hour...
00:54:34
Speaker
you know, complaint session about his wife if he was too drunk in a bar type thing. Yes. You know? Yes. Like, he's he screams that guy where he's like, can I just, like, get something off my chest? And it's, like, two hours later, he's, like, drunkenly ranting about how much he hates his life and, you know, his kids. and And I'm like, damn, ah you know, it's, you know.
00:54:56
Speaker
So... Yes, friends, welcome to the Disenfranchised Podcast, while we where we wildly speculate about celebrities that we have never even tangentially met. Well, I mean, he did get that That's what we do here.
00:55:09
Speaker
You know. Oh. Well, you know, people who get divorces, Jimmy, I tell you what. Well, they're bad people, right? There's a certain layer. There's a certain level of help. Well, since I've done it twice, does that mean, like, it cancels, they cancel each other out, and I'm back to being a good dude? Well, yeah, dude. Two wrongs make a right.
00:55:28
Speaker
I knew it. Fucking. knew yeah ye and And. you know what they say. If you get married again. And divorced again. Third time's a charm.
00:55:41
Speaker
I have no. Like. So you know this Jimmy. my My most recent marriage was not. A thing of romance. It was a a platonic thing.
00:55:55
Speaker
And not a lot of people are down for that. So I doubt I'm going to find someone else who would want to do that. And I have no interest in romantic relationships. So all that's off the table. So I'm going to say right here and now that there's a pretty good chance that I will never be married again.
00:56:11
Speaker
Of course, never say never. You never know. Like in 10 years, like 10 years ago, i had no idea I'd be sitting here doing what I'm doing now. I had no idea that I would have married a man.
00:56:22
Speaker
But I did those things and I'm doing those things. Those things are happening. yeah They have happened. So who knows? I just don't. From where I'm sitting right now in early March of 2026, I have no plans or intentions to marry anyone of either sex or of any gender for any reason.
00:56:43
Speaker
Wow. We'll see where we at 10 years, you know, even if the podcast still isn't going on in early March in 2036. Jimmy, if man is still alive, if woman can survive,
00:56:59
Speaker
um we will make an episode of this podcast specifically to see where I am. How many more people have I married?
00:57:13
Speaker
You know, there's a whole world of people. you could Look, it could be zero. it could be up to like, I mean, in 10 years, shit, I could probably marry and get rid of like two or three people.
00:57:24
Speaker
In that amount of time. You know what, man? I support you. The average length of a marriage for me is about three years. All right? It's about three years. so I could get a good three in there at least. Yeah.
00:57:39
Speaker
If I started working on it now, I could have three done in ten years. Yeah, dude. Get to work. That's exciting. Now I'm going get to work. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay. I'm going to go back to that dispensary and see if that girl is there. That told me my outfit looked nice.
00:57:55
Speaker
Yeah. Like, hey, girl, what you up to? You want to get married to an unstable s singleer father single father? Yeah. yeah yeah You want to be number three? yeah I live with my sister. What's up? Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:12
Speaker
Come on, girl. Yeah. Oh my That's how I flirt. i don't know if you've witnessed that in person. Yeah, it's scary. yeah People are just like frightened. Yeah, duly yeah okay. well Okay, I'm wrong with you.
00:58:28
Speaker
who Oh, shit. you You do look good in that light. mean, that outfit does look great in that lighting. Oh, fuck.
00:58:39
Speaker
oh Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Kids these days, I tell you what. can't Can't live with them? Join them. you right That's the saying, right? Yeah.
00:58:51
Speaker
Okay, good. We're still young. Yeah! ah Yeah. We are young. Yes.
00:59:02
Speaker
ah Jimmy, do you have anything ah before we move on to Brett's video game corner, which he's not here for, so I will be taking care of that. Do you have anything else in general that you wanted to... to bring up about, about this film?
Cinematography & Video Game Adaptation
00:59:16
Speaker
Gosh, there's, there's so much, uh, lay it on me. I mean, firstly, we haven't talked about it, but the way that this film is, I don't know if the shot is the right word, but, you know, the cinematography, for a lack of a better word, you know, is fantastic.
00:59:35
Speaker
It's so good. It's great. It's great. And I think that it does a really good job of knowing when to be kinetic and kind of break the laws of physics.
00:59:50
Speaker
And it knows when to just fucking chill out and do a two shot. Yep. You know, it's it's very good at conveying the tone of the film, which is what you're one of the things you're supposed to be doing with cinematography.
01:00:04
Speaker
But I think in this case, yeah, it's it's very well done. The camera work is, of course, all in the computer. The motion motion capture is not actually filmed. It's all just sensors. They wear a suit with sensors and they have the dots on their face and the little camera in front of it it that tracks the dots and everything.
01:00:24
Speaker
So you're not actually, you don't have a camera angle when the people are doing the motion capture. So that's all done in the animation. And the people who were in charge of the cinematography for the animation and those shots, like, I don't know what their background is, but they have a very good understanding of how to use a camera to tell a story.
01:00:46
Speaker
even if it's a virtual one. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's shot. It looks like a actual, like movie filmed with a camera, you know, just the way it's shot and things are framed and, you know, there's some fantastic zooms and, and angles that they were using. And some of those, um you know, the cameras like panning, like up and around, like, you know, a scene and just,
01:01:15
Speaker
um It's fantastic, dude. It was very, um, it, it, it took the, everybody took their job really seriously, especially behind the scenes, you know? i mean, and not only took it seriously, but I think that they like, you know, once again, like, you know, this movie kind of has like the air of being a children's movie when, you know, like it's actual presentation is not that, you know, even down to the way it's, ah visually, you know, produced, it's crazy, fantastically good, especially for, and I, I love animation and adult animation and even animation for children. Like typically, and this is, this is like high up there in terms of, you know, the physical, excuse me, visual presentation.
01:02:02
Speaker
So I think something I appreciate about it is that the, the kind of, there are camera movements in this film that are not physically possible in the real world. Right. And that's something that can be done now because then they'll just do it in post and it's a fully CGI thing.
01:02:24
Speaker
But the fact that you're going from a real actor that you're filming to something completely CGI can kind of take you out of it. But this, this is already a CGI animated movie.
01:02:36
Speaker
So those impossible shots and impossible camera movements are, they don't take you out of it like they would in something like a Marvel movie, which I, for the record, enjoy most Marvel movies. But I'm just saying there are times where like you can tell, oh, well, they've gone fully CG because that's not even possible with an actual. Right.
01:02:55
Speaker
But like in this, you don't even think about that because you're already sort of in ah a different kind of you're you're you're already accepting a different kind of visual language. Yeah, for sure.
01:03:09
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, but the thing, like, this movie, aside from, you know, that, which you just mentioned, and, you know, the fact that the house is um alive, um this movie could be live-action, easily.
01:03:25
Speaker
Like, obviously, some of the characters would look different than how they do in this film, but, I mean, just the way it's presented is very realistic for an animated film. And don't think they really took their audience seriously.
01:03:41
Speaker
Don't jinx it, Jimmy. I don't want there to be a Monster House live action remake. Speaking of, ah so, you know, was there a planned sequel or something along the way? Or, you know, how does this land on the disenfranchised list here?
01:03:58
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Well, ah for me, it was ah like I said, initially I wanted to do something to tie in with something that was coming out. I was very excited about the bride. I started looking at Maggie Gyllenhaal stuff and this popped up and i was like, oh, I haven't seen this in a while, but I remember really digging it and I want to watch it.
01:04:20
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And in my research, Jimmy, of which I did, I assure you, um ah The last, apparently the director Gil Keenan has always kind of made it known that he wants to do a spinoff or a sequel to this film.
01:04:37
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ah Most recently in 2026, when doing press for the aforementioned Ghostbusters Frozen Kingdom, ah he mentioned that he is still very much down to do anything.
01:04:53
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with this movie, would make a sequel, make a spinoff, make a TV series, whatever. He just wants to get back into that world. That's crazy. It's even being brought up to me.
01:05:04
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I feel like this movie kind of flew below the radar for a lot of people. well and what we'll find Spoilers, what we'll find out later, ah Jimmy, is that this movie did okay at the box office. It did pretty alright.
01:05:18
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It doesn't surprise me. as it is did okay. In terms of staying factor in the culture, like i just don't... You know what I mean? like it did It didn't really stick, even if it did well commercially.
01:05:30
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yeah did for me, but I'm biased, right? like so Yeah, well, and I think that there are there are a lot of people who do and remember this from their childhood and they do enjoy it.
01:05:44
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um And so I think that the more times time goes by, the more people are going to show it to other people and their kids or like their family members and a whole new generation is going to grow up appreciating this. And this is just old enough to kind of be retro.
01:06:03
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Yeah, you're right. So it's i think it's up it's up for a reappraisal, and I wouldn't be surprised that sometime within the next 10 years, and we'll we'll circle back and discuss this in the year 2036. The part um because ah you know the part two for this episode, right? Yes, part two. This is only part one.
01:06:23
Speaker
It will be in the title, Jimmy. Let me write that down. so i don' We're going to take about a 10-year break, and then we'll come back. Yes. Well, I mean, maybe the podcast will still be going on then. Maybe it won't. I mean, it has been going on for six years already. And only recently did it come untethered. And I had to pull the reins and and take over and and bring it back. Because there are fans, Jimmy. You know, one of our one of our episodes, our Twin Peaks Firewalk With Me episode actually has over 3,000 views on YouTube.
01:07:00
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Let's make it six, everybody. Go listen to it again, if you already listened to it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember that one being a particularly good one. i It might be my hot take, because my hot take is is that I don't really fucking like that movie that much. Wow. like I will say, though, when I watched it for the pod, I'm doing the greatest hits for the people who just have only listened to the Twin Peaks episode.
01:07:28
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um Like I was grateful to watch it outside of a series rewatch. Right. Outside of the context. Yeah. Outside of the context of the series. It's great.
01:07:41
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And I like it. And I have fun with it. But if I watch the first two seasons of Twin Peaks and then I watch that movie, I'm like, I'm not into this. This isn't this isn't Twin Peaks. What the fuck is this? Get the fuck out of here. Like, I love you, David Lynch, but fuck right off with this shit.
01:07:57
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But like outside of the context of the series, I did enjoy it a lot more. So yeah, go listen to our episode on Twin Peaks Firewalk with me. ah It's on, you know, wherever you get your podcasts and it's on YouTube.
01:08:10
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Yeah. As well. I think the even the the way the animation looks in this movie still pretty. It holds up pretty well, you know.
01:08:20
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I have to say at a base level, I i don't particularly like the the style of the animation, the character designs. I think it's it's kind of ugly, but like it wins me over within like the first 10 minutes and I don't care.
01:08:39
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I think it works, um one, for the movie. for the sort of movie it is, right? Like, you don't want people looking too cutesy and shit. It doesn't get into the weird, uncanny valley territory that Polar Express into. Yeah, it's just cartoony enough, yeah. Yeah, it's that cartoon realism that I was saying. ah It bears all basic, the basic physical laws of the same universe. It, the facial expressions are, are really helped tether those character designs down, including the house, by the way. yeah
01:09:12
Speaker
Agreed. Um, the way that they conveyed emotion through facial expressions and a movie that came out 20 years ago, animation is phenomenal. So, um, I think that when you find out at the end that it is, it's it's a ah very, a large obese woman, like it even like just kind of the shape of the way her character design is just kind of her head just kind of goes into her shoulders because she has, you know, the extra stuff around there. Like it, it you see it in the house after you see her, you're like, oh shit, that's, that's the house.
01:09:50
Speaker
That's obviously the fucking house. Mm hmm. It's brilliant. Like I said, I'm not really too keen on the character designs at first, but it's such a good movie, it doesn't matter. love the character design, personally.
01:10:08
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i think it's great. That's how I was with the Nickelodeon-produced 2012 Teenage music Ninja Turtles TV series. right like I saw ads for that, and i was like, I don't like that.
01:10:21
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At all. I don't like those character designs at all. That fucking sucks. Then I watched an episode of it and I was like, yeah, i still hate those character designs, but I no longer fucking care because this is so good. And that's how this... listen, if it's not visually appealing with the animation style or color palette or whatever, ah yeah i don't care how good the fucking story is, dude.
01:10:45
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You know, it's not... yeah you know, that's half of the medium. That's most of the medium, you know? Uh, so yeah. And, and in terms of, uh, you know, story and, and performance, you know, I, um, I always get a little emotional and I did this time too. And, you know, it breaks into,
01:11:08
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um um the old man saying he loved her and and telling the whole story is it's incredibly heartfelt. you know so there's There's such a human touch about this movie.
01:11:21
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I like that they they kind of foreshadow a bit of that. Like, you can tell that there's something there's something you don't know. Well, he even literally is like, you gotta stay away from her.
01:11:33
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And then he has the heart attack or whatever. You know, like, he's about to say her at one point, yeah And, like, you... you Oh, the pacing in this movie is so good.
01:11:44
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It is really Ugh. It's one of those films, and that's that's a Zemeckis thing, I'll tell you what, and you'll you'll see that specifically in the Back to the Future trilogy, is that Zemeckis, there's no fat on that. There's nothing.
01:12:01
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You just have a direct line From the beginning to the end. There is nothing in this film. yeah Though you could argue. Maybe the introductory scene. But like we said before. That's kind of a a trailer.
01:12:15
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But there's nothing. That doesn't matter. There's nothing that doesn't matter. In this movie. everything Every piece of dialogue. Every scene.
01:12:28
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Everything moves the story forward. We're not just standing around. Bullshitting. At any point in this movie. It's always moving forward. And that's, um, that's not an easy thing to do. Yeah.
01:12:42
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It's not an easy thing to to make, to make something so perfectly paced. Well, also, yeah, it's snappy without it feeling rushed, you know? Um, mm-hmm. And there's just enough, you know, this movie really plays into the classic, you know, formula or cliches and stuff. And, you know, it's not afraid of, you know, leaning into that sort of thing, but I think they just play it really well, right? Like there's, you know, there's at no point they're going to like pull out the rug and try to, you know, outsmart the audience or try to, you know, be clever or whatever to, you know, over the top extent. But, um,
01:13:21
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They just do such a good, like even, you know, just all the tropes even are like ignorable because it all serves a purpose for the story and the story is great. And it like floats on its own. And, you know, I, you know, if, if at this point in the podcast, you haven't seen this movie like yet, you got to go watch it.
01:13:41
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So, and yeah, yeah. it's just, it's fantastic. If you want to watch this movie, ah just ah DM Jimmy. He has the DVD. He will let you borrow it.
01:13:54
Speaker
Yeah. Shipping will cost you, but yeah. Well, you can't be out of pocket, obviously. No, I can't fit it in my pocket. It's a DVD. Jimmy.
01:14:05
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Jeez Louise. Well, you're not wearing JNCOs. That's why. Sorry. Or cargo pants. I've retired that. i knew i know I know from experience that you can fit a DVD case in some cargo pants.
01:14:20
Speaker
i don't. Okay. That's the only reason I buy pants. I don't all space, dude. Is to fit Blu-ray cases in them. That's true. i don't have to hold on to them while I'm walking to my friend's house to watch my Blu-ray disc.
01:14:32
Speaker
Right. Or a 4K disc. As you often do. On my DVD. Right. do these things. These are things I do, yes. These are things I do on a regular basis, actually. Yes, indeedy.
01:14:43
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um So, yeah, I think I should like to move on to Brett's video game corner. The corner is dusty. Nobody's been over here for a while. As as I move into the corner, I notice that there's a bit of a fungus growing here. going to see if I can take care of that. But for now, we're just going to sit down here and talk about Monster House, the official movie tie-in video game.
01:15:11
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Now, this was divve wo it was developed, as far as I know, and published. I'm sorry. It was developed by Artificial Mind and Movement and published by THQ.
01:15:22
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It was released in 2006 when this film came out. um And generally, ah it seems to be... i haven't played it, but it like people like it.
01:15:33
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it's ah It's a third-person shooter. So kind of like ah like a Resident Evil or like a... ah what's ah What's a more recent third-person game?
01:15:44
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Anything where... Or like Fallout or Skyrim. Anything like that where where... Yes, where you see your character in front of you. like That's a third-person game. So this was a third-person shooter.
01:15:56
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And, of course, you had the water guns. And you're in the house... It looks like DJ has a camera that he stuns enemies with. Jenny has a slingshot.
01:16:10
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And Chowder appropriately has water balloons. I think that's a very, that that's an appropriate weapon for that character. For sure. And this is the exciting part. This is why I kind of want to play it. I might see if I can get it for my GameCube.
01:16:25
Speaker
um I mean, i remember ah I remember the release of that. Oh, are you have this? Did you play this game? I never got it. But i I remember the the ads on TV, you know, and I remember liking the movie to where it stuck stuck out. But, you know, I never got it, you know.
01:16:45
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Well, the thing that I think interests me most about this, which may inspire me to to purchase a copy for myself, is that you can find tokens around the house that let you play the game, the in-movie game that we see briefly. Yes, that that ah Napoleon Dynamite is playing.
01:17:08
Speaker
Thou art dead. It's so funny. I was watching it this time and I was thinking how, you know, it's not often you see a game within a movie where it looks good. It usually looks really tacky or whatever. Yeah. ah This game, not so much. This game looked badass.
01:17:27
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um So that is yeah actually really cool. So if it's really in the, if the game is in the game, like I will buy it just for that. Yeah, that's sick. Yeah, so yeah, I mean, it got decent, like, ah average to good reviews, like, which, for anyone who's familiar with ah video game tie-ins for films, that's not not always the case uh most of the time those are just cash-ins that are quickly developed and released and they're usually not good some of them are unintentionally good because of how bad they are i'm thinking things like like jaws for the n nes um also the friday the 13th game for the nes as well um
01:18:16
Speaker
I'm stalling because I'm trying to see how much a copy of this is. $8. Fucking sold. Buying it right now, Jimmy. What's that off? 8 bucks. Complete eBay. Complete inbox.
01:18:30
Speaker
With the manual and everything. Now my GameCube is still in storage, so it might be a while before I get to play it. but That's rad, dude. Congrats. We are buying this right now. $8? Fuck yeah, dude.
01:18:43
Speaker
yeah it Purchased. Yes, that's my address. Yes, I'm using my credit card. There we go. Okay, fantastic. I'm sorry, back to the podcast. i now What is your credit card number? mean Just real quick. What is what is your credit card? It's really easy. It's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. Nice, okay. Expiration...
01:19:04
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six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen nice okay
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expiration
01:19:20
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And the CCB code? 4269. Nice. Nice. Cool. Cool. Do you need the zip code?
01:19:34
Speaker
No, I know where you live. Okay. all right oh I know where your sister lives.
Podcasting Challenges & Monster House Economics
01:19:39
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Yeah. Yeah.
01:19:42
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e ah ah well Well, kids, it's time. We did it. It's time to go to the numbers, Jimmy.
01:19:55
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Let's do it. How are you feeling about it so far? I don't know if if anybody knows this but myself and Jimmy. Of course, some people know this because we do have repeat listeners. We have fans. yeah There are at least seven or eight people who listen to this podcast regularly.
01:20:11
Speaker
um i i'm I'm the host now. You guys. So get used to it. i hope I hope I've done a pretty okay job. This isn't the first time. Are you watching reels again, Jimmy?
01:20:26
Speaker
Nah, dude. I will beat you to death. I will drive three days and just straight up death, Oh, it's your you love that sound effect. That's your favorite sound effect. That's fantastic.
01:20:41
Speaker
Anyway, yeah, you know, i i'm i'm I guess I host now. I guess I'm a host now. A little little update, little housekeeping before we move on to the numbers, which I kind of probably should have done this at the beginning, but fuck it.
01:20:54
Speaker
Whatever. It's my show now. So as as everyone knows who has been following the podcast for the last few years, Brett has not been around quite as much due to his work schedule and life and things like that. Though um because of new developments in his life, I'm hoping that his schedule will open up a bit and he can be on her a little bit more.
01:21:15
Speaker
But also Steven just kind of needed a break. Like he's got a lot of stuff going on. And as I have learned this week, it is no cakewalk to prepare for and like lead a show. Like Steven makes it sound really easy, but ah it's it's not easy, guys. And I hope I did all right this time.
01:21:39
Speaker
But I'm ah I'm just going to get better. I'm just going get better. There's no other option. I promise I'll make it worth your while.
01:21:51
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Yep. Anyway. ah So, Monster House came out on July 21st.
01:22:03
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2006 and it debuted at number two wow office wow that week uh that first weekend it grossed 22.2 million u.s american that is freedom die crazy
01:22:24
Speaker
yep wow what was number one Oh, we'll get to that. We'll get to that, friend. um i was just going to... So, Stephen gave me all of the the links to all the websites he uses to like see the numbers and stuff. And i swear, I figured this out before we started.
01:22:46
Speaker
But I can't figure out where the budget is. Because I want to... Stephen almost never includes the budget. And I'm like, hey, man, what was the... Okay, so the production budget... Oh, there you go. Thank you.
01:23:01
Speaker
If you could send that to me, I'd like to put it on the soundboard, if possible. It's gotta to be downloadable. It's growing on me, is what I'm saying. It's so good, bro. So the production budget of this film, all said and done, ah minus ah promotion commercials and shit,
01:23:20
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Well, $75 million. dollars it made twenty two essentially million
01:23:27
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its opening weekends it ended up over all Making worldwide, we had the domestic box box office ended up being $73.6 million.
01:23:40
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The international box office was $67.6 million, adding up to a worldwide box office of $141.2 million. Which is, I mean, it's about double the budget, which they say to break even on a film, you have to do, you know, 1.9 one point nine times The budget, because advertising and all that stuff. So it it it did better than break even. It didn't set the world on fire.
01:24:11
Speaker
But ah it certainly broke even. It did a lot better than it ah than it could have. That's true. um The top 10 on the week of July 21st when this film was released is as follows.
01:24:25
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Number one, a little movie called Pirates of the Caribbean, Dead Man's Chest. Yeah, well, that makes sense.
01:24:37
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That makes sense. Did I say it right? Caribbean, yes. im I go by ah Billy Ocean's pronunciation. That's that's my bar. ah but He says, he says go a bit quick Caribbean, Caribbean. Caribbean, Caribbean.
01:24:58
Speaker
Now we're sharing the same dreams. And my heart's still sweet as well. Okay, that's fine. I'm not going risk it. No, I didn't expect you to. I'm not going to risk everything on that. I get it. I'm a little bolder than you. At what cost? Honestly. At what cost? My dignity. Probably.
01:25:22
Speaker
yeah Fuck you, you do great at harmonies. Get out of here, Jimmy. It just takes a while to like figure it out. ah Of course, Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest, directed by ah ah that dude which just put out that time travel movie with Sam Rockwell.
01:25:40
Speaker
What's that motherfucker called? what's it oh Have fun, don't die. Something have fun, don't die. um be safe not know about this. Yeah, know. Sam Rockwell, he's time traveling back in time to save the world from AI. Oh.
01:25:57
Speaker
i can get down with that. So yeah, i want to see it. I want to see it real bad. Of course, ah the film we covered here, Monster House, was number two at the box office that week. um Number three was M. Night Shyamalan... I can do it.
01:26:12
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M. Night Shyamalans. ah Kind of the film that lost a lot of people, I think, despite it starring Paul Giamatti. Mm-hmm. Lady in the Water.
01:26:23
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Yep. People don't like that one that much. That's kind of where he... Well, it's for good reason, too. Because it sucked? I didn't see it. Well, he just, like, dicks around the audience, dude. He just dicks people around for too much. And, like, the writing's, like, really bad, like...
01:26:38
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Half the time, like, the story could be really good of his. Like, the conceptual story, like, the elevator pitch, great. Very cool. The actual, like, flesh and blood of the script and then the actual production of it is, like, there's, like, a gas leak, bro. they swear. Paul Giamatti does his best to keep that film afloat. And it's still a stinker, bro.
01:27:00
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That's a lot of potential in the beginning, like, first act, too. Like, you know, but... Once you get past that, it's a snooze fest. so
01:27:12
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Indeed. and What was it? The one he did like prior to this or maybe it was right after? the Village. The Straight Up Muppet pissed a lot of people off. I did too. I liked it.
01:27:24
Speaker
I thought it was good. i think people's ah issues with that movie was typically unjustified. i think people just don't like being bamboozled. And if you do it right, like it's great. It's like you know How are you going to be mad at you know a magician for making you think you know you know whatever? so Illusionist Michael.
01:27:45
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excuse i never Number four that week ah was was ah You, Me, and Dupree. That's the one with Owen Wilson where the dog dies at the end, right? Spoilers?
01:27:58
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Still haven't seen it, but I know how it ends. 20 years. Number five that week was a Little Man. a well One of the last in a series of Wayans Brothers concept, high concept comedies. It followed the likes of White Chicks, which is a very polarizing film I've found because you either really love that movie or you fucking hate it. There is no in between.
01:28:23
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um I tend to be on the side of really loving it, but if it catches me in the wrong mood, I'm not into it. Yep. It's like most of their movies though. Yeah. No, they're great, but sometimes it could be great. You gotta me in the right time. Yep.
01:28:41
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And number six, something I saw in theaters, is Clerks 2. Wow. first return to the well of the aforementioned, in the aforementioned Viewist Universe, the the connected films of Kevin Smith.
01:28:59
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I'm going to count ah how many times I say aforementioned, because I feel like I said that a lot. I don't feel like I say it a lot in real life. Or normally on the podcast. But I feel like tonight I said it.
01:29:11
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Like maybe every five minutes. I was aforementioned something. Well you're just a distinguished gentleman. Maybe that's what it is. you know We've been rubbing our beards all night.
01:29:24
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We're beard rubbers. sli watch We're old scholars. I tell you what. yeah I've got plenty of leather bound books. yeah I know the listeners can't can't see it. But I am surrounded buy scotch and leather bound books and my, my sister's candles, my sister's garage, uh, converted into my bedroom.
01:29:47
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It, it smells of rich mahogany, Jimmy. Um, cause I got a classy gentleman, dude. We're, we're, we're bad. We're bad. brought Jimmy, we're bad dudes. Indeed. Bad fucking dudes.
01:30:02
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Anyway, number seven this week ah was My Super Ex-Girlfriend, a movie I have not seen. I've heard of And don't really have any interest in No, I have seen that. I have seen that.
01:30:14
Speaker
Is that... Who's in that? Is it Uma Thurman? Is it Uma Thurman in that? Is that a Jadante? That's not a Jadante. is it? I hate having to look stuff. That is Uma Thurman and Luke Wilson, and I have seen this movie...
01:30:29
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Oh, Ivan Reitman. That's that's easy to and mix up there. um Speaking of Wayans Brothers comedy... I feel like I've seen that on Comedy Central on a rerun, like once, maybe.
01:30:43
Speaker
It's okay. It's not a waste of time, but it's not something I would waste time on. yeah ah Yeah. Directed by Ivan Reitman, Anna Faris is in it, who's also in the Scary Movie franchise, which was once...
01:30:57
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And currently controlled by the Wayans brothers that we were just talking about. i don't want to say that they're aforementioned, but we were just discussing them
01:31:09
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I'm going to throw that there. Number eight is the ill-fated Superman Returns. Unfortunately, I thought Brandon Routh was great as Superman. I don't even really give too much of a fuck about a Superman, but I thought that was a really fun movie, director notwithstanding.
01:31:27
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Number nine, ah The Devil Wears Prada, which is getting a sequel soon, I've heard. yeah And I'm not particularly excited about that because I still haven't seen the original. I don't have anything against it. i just It just doesn't seem like something I'd really be into.
01:31:41
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It's something I would watch with someone. it's um Listen, if you it's a movie that you watch with your friend and you get a charcuterie board and some white wine.
01:31:54
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<unk> Yeah. Yeah. that It's like a cozy. It's like a rainy day movie. like Can I wear my high heels, though? ah Because part it's more of a for the marketing was was ah a red high heel with a pitchfork for the it the devil wears. there And then it's dude, I'm really good at walking in heels, though, and I haven't in a while. I'm kind of itching.
01:32:17
Speaker
So just let me just say it's OK. Just say it's OK, Jimmy. ah you Go to the gym, have them put it on get on a Stairmaster with your heels. I don't need End story.
01:32:28
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I know. Nope. I know I can handle it. And finally, number 10 this week is the ah Disney Pixar classic to some. WALL-E? Baffling to others, Cars.
01:32:42
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Cars, yeah. Also for you, Jimmy, e since I know you're a big Adam Sandler guy, rightfully so, number 11 that week at its fifth week at the box office was Click, which I thought was okay.
01:32:56
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I liked that one. Saw that in theaters. It was great. i really I really enjoyed the the the beyond joke, the the joke of the bed, bath and beyond and the beyond is just fucking beyond. I thought that was great.
01:33:08
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That's great because that's a dad joke. But like they expanded upon it to just make it kind of the the thing that sets off the plot of that film. I mean, I saw it with my dad, and I can confirm he loved that joke. that's dad movie. For sure.
01:33:23
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Yeah. I'm sure your would enjoy it. It's one of those... Knowing your father, yes. Oh, yeah. It's also owned on DVD. And... um Yeah, that's when Sandler was... um foraying into more semi-serious roles here and there. There's some scenes that are brought up in that movie that are ah not necessarily comedic.
01:33:47
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So... well A lot of his stuff was going high concept at that time, too. and And for better for worse, there are some that didn't exactly go very well, but this was one that I think that that he was really able to do a lot with a high concept comedy. Well, because he wasn't like, ah he wasn't like ah spoofing gay people or like poorly tackling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. So, yeah. Yeah. A little ham-fisted there, but um heart's in the right place. But yeah.
01:34:21
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We love to love him. Yeah. yeah For the most part. For the most part. yeah Yes, indeed. ah So this has 75% on Rotten Tomatoes out of reviews. ah The viewer rating out of out of here.
01:34:45
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yeah i like the seventy five i give the customer is wrong Spoiler, my rating is higher, but I get that rating. ah The critic critics' consensus on Rotten Tomatoes is Monster House welcomes kids and adults alike into a household full of smart, monstrous fun. And I think that is a decent summary of the good things about this movie. point Metacritic has ah it at 68%.
01:35:16
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sixty eight Out of 100 generally favorable from 32 critic reviews. The user score is a 7.2 out of 194.
01:35:28
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ah Jimmy, normally I guess what the Letterboxd score is, but I accidentally saw it. Like, I brought it up and I tried to, like, click away to a different tab before it all the way came up, but I saw it. So would you care to guess what the... Because I normally guess what the Letterboxd score is because I famously hate Letterboxd.
01:35:47
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um Look, I'm a zennial. I practically invented irony, but there's a time and a place, goddammit.
01:35:55
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That's all I'm saying, Letterboxd. It's a time and a place. what Now, what would you say, within a range of of three, ah what do you think Letterboxd has a website?
01:36:09
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No, you will have... like Okay, so within three. So like when I guess, I'll be like, I think it's ah between 3.2 oh and a 3.3. What's the scale, though? Is it out of 5? 5.0, yeah. um
01:36:29
Speaker
I'd say, like, ah somewhere between 3.2 and 3.7.
Film Critiques & Music Projects
01:36:36
Speaker
Well, that's a few too many in the range, but thankfully you are within the range on your starting guess and it is a 3.4. Hmm. Okay. oh okay it Good job, Letterboxd. You accurately rated something while still being a meme-riddled hellhole.
01:36:55
Speaker
I think it's fair. You know yeah you know Paul McCartney's on Letterboxd now, dude? I mean, I... That's cool.
01:37:07
Speaker
Yeah. I think that's cool, yeah. You put couple good movies in there. I mean, and everybody likes movies. Well, yeah. It's nice when... Movies are like like, straight up like, if like pictures and like stories got together, but then like, the pictures move.
01:37:25
Speaker
Yeah, mean. that's like If you haven't watched a movie before, that's kind of what it's like so like. Check that out. and Maybe if you haven't watched a movie before, like maybe your first movie should would be Monster House. 2006's Monster House.
01:37:38
Speaker
um Paul McCartney's...
01:37:42
Speaker
No, it's not it because Jimmy's still talking about motherfuckcker Paul McCartney. well The four movies he has on Letterboxd is The Girl Can't Help It, On the Waterfront, Get Out,
01:37:54
Speaker
okay And the last waltz. Ooh, hey. So... the cobackggers Neil Diamond is in the last waltz, Jimmy. I don't know if you've seen the last waltz. yeah it is it is the farewell concert, the the last concert of the band. Do you know the band?
01:38:14
Speaker
The band, the band. Yeah. um And so Neil Diamond was good friends with... um I think one of the guitar players. And he was like, yeah, we should totally do a record together sometime. And so the dude from the band produced one of his records. And so the single off of that, ah Neil Diamond performs with the band during the last walk.
01:38:39
Speaker
That's sick. Yeah, dude, you should see The Last Waltz. I have seen The Last Waltz. I'm saying i didn't know that's what the that's how he got on stage. I i did not... Yeah, dude, he was pals, man. He was real good pals as that guitar player, man.
01:38:50
Speaker
you know um Do you know they had to go in and airbrush by hand out Neil the Young's coked-out nose? because the camera angle is up and they were doing a bunch of coke backstage and when they were everything came out great but then when they were doing the um post they were like what's that white shit all up in Neil Young's nose um and so they had artists come in and you know hand airbrush basically out the coke from his nose. Because he's in the last walls. Film by film. yeah
01:39:27
Speaker
yeah Frame by frame you mean. but yes yeah Frame by frame, yes. Okay, yes. i yeah I thought that you had mentioned Neil Young simply because his name is also Neil.
01:39:41
Speaker
No, but there is some sort of like brotherhood. I realize the connection. I would love to see them do a record together. you imagine Neil Diamond and Neil Young?
01:39:52
Speaker
Like... both good boys that we love, but both just, they do very different things. But then again, then again, he Neil Young was very open to and did a few times collaborate with Devo in the late seventies, early eighties.
01:40:11
Speaker
And that turned out really fantastic. If you, yeah if you want a good example of that, look up their version of, um Hey, Hey, my, my. Right. Right. It's Neil Young and Evo.
01:40:24
Speaker
And it's it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in the best possible way. ah Yeah, so Neil Young, Neil Diamond, that's all great. ah ah Shout out to all the Neils. so ah So let's ah let's wrap this motherfucker up before my bladder explodes, man. but so do the Let's that. Let's start ah by saying good job, everybody. We did it.
01:40:46
Speaker
We got through it. Here we are. we here We're here at the end. We're basically in the homestretch. Nothing to worry about now. Nothing could possibly go wrong. Nope.
01:40:56
Speaker
Nope.
01:40:59
Speaker
So, Jimmy, have you been up to these days? I know you'd you dropped an album last year. um And I've seen some of your Instagram stories that you might be working on. You might be cooking something right now.
01:41:13
Speaker
Might be something in the oven as we speak. Tell us about that, Jimmy. Well, yeah. I've got a couple tracks I've been working on in the oven. I've got a couple tunes that are going to be... um put out as a single, a double single. um Soonish, I gotta to record some drums for it because um if you know my music, um everything's myself.
01:41:41
Speaker
um The drums are MIDI programmed note by note, but to this next set of music onward, unless it's like an explicit drum machine thing, I'm gonna be doing live. drums, either myself or having some of my friends come through drum with it.
01:42:01
Speaker
Expanding the Grand Voodoo Band.
01:42:05
Speaker
Are these tracks that you're putting out, Jimmy, are these part of a new full-length LP that you're going to put out, or are these just like it's just something in between? It's kind of well you got something you're fucking with.
01:42:20
Speaker
um Well, the tracks are called if and Untethered. They were written, like, four or five months ago. um And they're both, ah they both have this very specific tone. They were recorded at the same time, written at the same time. So the idea is if an untethered are going to be a part of a single, whether or not they end up on a full length is TBD, but um there's other tracks getting recorded right now too. So there's always room for things to change.
01:42:52
Speaker
So there's a lot, there's a lot cooking. if you're If you're just constantly making new stuff, who knows where it's going to end up. That's yeah that's kind of cool. I'm way into that. Way yeah into that, Jimmy.
01:43:03
Speaker
And i if I could say, personally, if if you are a fan of this show um and you've ever heard any of Jimmy's music, and to be clear, Jimmy's name is not Jimmy. We're speaking to Evan Wilson, so if you know if you're looking up his music, you look up Graham Hooter Band or you try and find Evan Wilson.
01:43:22
Speaker
Because his name is not Jimmy. Only I call him Jimmy. ah Somehow, my my sister gained that ability as well. But we're the only two people in the world that are allowed to call...
01:43:34
Speaker
Evan, it just feels so weird to call you Evan. I think it's a me thing. Like, if I like you, I have to give you a nickname. Look, if I'm calling you by your given name, we're not as good of friends as you fucking think we are. shit's bad Especially if you already gave me a nickname and then you're using my Christian name. Like, like my government name. Yeah, yeah.
01:43:55
Speaker
Anyway, i will say i will say um this man, my good friend Jimmy, under the moniker of Grand Voodoo Band, as he he usually does. Last year released um one of in an unbiased opinion, one of my favorite records of last year.
01:44:16
Speaker
I think citrus night is pretty rad. And I'm really glad that I got to kind of be a part of the creative process. They're kind of being a soundboard and stuff. And also, as you know, of course I cleared it with you.
01:44:29
Speaker
I showed it some other people who really liked what you were doing and stuff. Um, and it's, it, it kind of means something when i can go through that process with you and then also I still want to listen to the record just right to listen to it every once in a while yeah I mean you know it's one thing to be like oh yeah this is cool but it's another this like I think I'm gonna listen to then also like it yeah you also have a front row seat I mean Tucker usually gets like the demos that then turn into the early mixes that then get turned into, you know, the mix after mix after mix. Does this sound good? Yada, yada, yada. I mean, he, he pretty much gets it from beginning to end. And then in terms of citrus nights, the record that came out last year, um
01:45:19
Speaker
you know, he was ah in in the writing process, you know, from like 2020 era for some of those songs. So, you know, props to you too, because like you, you definitely had a hand in multiple of those tracks, uh, from their inception.
01:45:34
Speaker
So, and yeah, real quick, I know your bladder is about to explode, but if you, uh, also want to check out my other stuff is, uh, with my songwriting partner, Carmela, we make music called Lupine Daughter. Lupine Daughter stuff. That's some good stuff too. It's, it's not like really straight up, up my alley, but, uh, I do enjoy it.
01:45:56
Speaker
I dig it. There's an audience for it and they are going to love it. Yeah. So we put out an EP last year and, um, hopefully work on some music in the near time future. So nice yeah, that's going to be an ongoing thing then hopefully.
01:46:12
Speaker
hopefully i mean she lives in alaska so now we have to do the sort of uh cross-country sending tracks to each other it's easier now to do that than it ever has been before i was doing that in germany with a girl in the united states in like 2004 jimmy oh my god was not as easy but we did it sounds like a nightmare Yes, ah before we get to our socials though, Jimmy, i I'm ashamed to say this, but I neglected to finish out the numbers with our personal ratings of the film.
Personal Ratings & Podcast Future
01:46:47
Speaker
So real quick, before we hit socials, Jimmy, out of five stars, ah what do you give 2006's Monster House and a very brief explanation as to why?
01:47:00
Speaker
3.9. Um...
01:47:03
Speaker
um
01:47:07
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's it's not ah it's not a perfect film, but I think for what they set out to do, it's a masterpiece. So yeah um that's, like, my personal thing is it's higher, but I'm also taking into account my my biases towards this film and saying, you know I think objectively, it's about a 3.9. Okay. personally Personally, I'd say about a
01:47:33
Speaker
that makes any difference no we we usually we usually uh um do uh point fives but i do accept anything so um well it's a new show base are you going with it's a cute show are you a show you're a new show new show new host baby new numbers Yeah, I know. everything Everything's different, man.
01:48:01
Speaker
But it's still kind of the same, so you remember where the fuck you are. Wake up! We're here. ah So are you going with your 3.9 or your 4.2, dude? You gotta be a little more clear with that shit. Let's do 4.2.
01:48:14
Speaker
Okay. Alright, because I have to average this out. and i'm putting Oh, it's personal.
01:48:24
Speaker
ah For me, this is 3.5 because it is ah it's very well done. I really, really like it. um But it's it's probably something that that I wouldn't be like, oh, shit, I'm gonna watch Monster House. It would be more like, man, I don't know what to watch.
01:48:45
Speaker
you know I could always watch monster house, you know, like it's real, real fucking good. ah but it's not something that I'm probably going to be like running home to watch.
01:48:56
Speaker
But if after I have ran home and I can't figure out what to watch, it's always a good choice. It's one of those movies that if terrestrial or if cable television still existed, it would be on TNT every weekend and you catch a little snip of it.
01:49:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And I wouldn't turn it off. I'd at least like two minutes, like five, ten minutes. wait As long as I was sitting there, I'd be doing it. Exactly. doing other shit, but. So with with Jimmy's 4.2 and my 3.5, that gives us an average rating of 3.85 for 2006's Monster House. Jimmy, let's let's let's take it home, man. Let's steer this ship to the end. Give us any of your social medias that you are willing to share with the Disenfranchise Podcast audience.
01:49:43
Speaker
um Yeah, so my band Grand Voodoo is at Grand Voodoo Band. Lupinedaughter is at lupinedaughter. And my personal is at, wow, it's Evan Wilson. Yeah, all one word.
01:50:01
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't want it any other way on the internet. Yep. That's cool. That's cool. That's tight. That's rad. Everybody likes that. ah I also have social medias.
01:50:11
Speaker
I'm on the Instagrams and I'm on YouTube at ice 909. That's I C E N I N E number zero and the number nine. Tuck mug still exists, but I haven't done anything with it for a while.
01:50:23
Speaker
And I'm I'm really, you know, trying to focus on doing this whole podcast thing kind of sort of by myself a little bit. So who knows what will happen to it? But I definitely intend to get back to tuck mugs and make that once again a thing. So we will see.
01:50:45
Speaker
So that's it. We did it, Jimmy. parts That's the episode, man. So for the disenfranchised podcast, I have been your host and my good friend Jimmy has been here with us.
01:51:00
Speaker
And we just want to say that if anything happens, call the police and hide in your closet.
01:51:28
Speaker
Bye.