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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris are heading to PAX Unplugged in Philadelphia. To get into the board gaming mood, they discuss the 1995 classic Jumanji.

Based on the book by Chris Van Allsburg, Jumanji stars Robin Williams as Allan Parrish, who is sucked into the titular jungle-themed board game in 1969 and trapped in its dangerous world for 26 years.  When siblings Judy (Kirsten Dunst) and Peter (Bradley Pierce) find the Jumanji board, they release Allan but also a host of dangerous animals, deadly plants, and the villainous big game hunter Van Pelt (Jonathan Hyde).  Judy, Peter, Allan, and Allan's childhood friend Sarah (Bonnie Hunt) must survive the game's threats and complete it to undo everything it has unleashed.  Zach and Chris try to figure out the Jumanji board's ultimate goal, how the digital effects were cutting edge for the time, the insane run of movies from Jonathan Hyde in the 90s, Aunt Lilith Crane, and more.

You can watch Jumanji on The Roku Channel.  Next week, we're discussing the deep-cut Tom Selleck movie Runaway, directed by Michael Crichton, celebrating its 40th anniversary.

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Introduction and Episode Context

00:00:03
Speaker
Welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the official podcast of EverythingAction.com.
00:00:18
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast of podcast for the week of December 2nd, 2024. I'm your I'm your co-host Chris.

Nostalgia for Jumanji and 90s Cinema

00:00:27
Speaker
Yeah, and this week we are rolling the dice and talking about 1995's Jumanji.
00:00:32
Speaker
um Because if you're hearing this when it goes up, we're actually going to be at PAX Unplugged playing all sorts of board games, checking out Tabletop and ah you know RPGs, all sorts of other kind of cardboard and dice-related gaming. So um check out our check our social media for that updates from there. But we thought we'd get in the you know board game tabletop mood by watching or rewatching a kind of board game classic, Jumanji.
00:01:04
Speaker
Yeah, ah totally a game that or like a movie that pretty much every kid was excited for because just like it had everything I think like 90s kids loved. Yes. this i mean this I remember this movie being a huge deal. Yeah, I remember like the The weeks coming to this was like the books were getting popular again. Kids were talking about Jumanji. Kids that saw Jumanji would talk about Jumanji at school. I mean it was it was peak Robin Williams.

Jumanji's CGI Innovations and Challenges

00:01:36
Speaker
It was and then it was like um I also had like a lot of like
00:01:40
Speaker
i mean I remember it was a huge deal, as far as like special effects at time it was like cause like l ill m did the did all like the like CG animals, and they like made brand new like software just for this movie, for like facial expressions and and like hair. like This is the first time any CG creation had hair, like realistic hair. ah It's a hard take, because some of that hair does not age well. I mean, yeah, it doesn't hold up. By the time, it was like, holy shit, these monkeys have hair. like
00:02:12
Speaker
But ah yeah, I feel like I feel like there's like some sort of special or something or maybe it was like entertainment tonight or something. There's like people were just like, look how they made these animals like. Yeah, I definitely remember seeing that like e t special and then just like looking at that and just going. Yeah, I think that's a cartoon. You know, like it didn't it didn't at the time as a kid stand out just because the they didn't quite get like an like mocap right yet.
00:02:36
Speaker
Yeah, I sort like the stampede scene. It was like the one where it's like, look at how many animals there are. They're all're all made by a computer. Can you believe it? Yeah, I definitely remember something like that. And then um them making such a big deal of how many animals they had running across the sh screen. Yeah. And then when you see it now, like I don't think they're the right lighting or outdoors or the same color. Yeah.
00:03:04
Speaker
but other parts of it are like great, like the animatronics and then the ah fur on Robin Williams. All cool.

Character Analysis of Alan Parrish

00:03:15
Speaker
Robin Williams grew all his own hair.
00:03:19
Speaker
ah Do you think Robin Williams, he had a workout to be Alan? Like it it feels weird because like if you had to make a modern movie today,
00:03:32
Speaker
You know, that actor would be like, oh, I'm on a year long diet plan. I'm here to get chiseled. Yeah, you've been living in the jungle for like 20 years, 26 years. Like, you know, you're like, you know, yeah, you running and escaping animals like you'd be like like Tarzan ripped, like. But Robin Williams literally showed up and just like, all right, like, where's my onesie? I'm going to wear my my like caveman military outfit. I have like a helmet. They dyed his costume for book.
00:04:04
Speaker
Yeah, essentially it's the same costume like unitard. Yeah. um But I mean, it's funny because I always imagined like that version of Alan before it became like the 90s dad look. Mm hmm.
00:04:18
Speaker
I thought he was going to be more um like jungle man and like, uh, use a weapon. Cause I remember that when he shows up and he has the knife and all that, and then he just doesn't have any of that. Like he, so like it just him relying on jumping on things, but it's not like he's now into the jungle. Yeah.
00:04:38
Speaker
Well, he doesn't have like killer instinct after that. He's just like, he softens, but 26 years as a jungle man with like survival and he's being hunted all the time. He is well adjusted. Like he's, he's very sarcastic for a man that's been on the run. Well, he retains like his like preteen, like kid, like attitude, like, ah he like he's kind of has like rest of development because he just like close back up. He's actually like a kid. He's like, where's my mom? Where's mom and dad? Like,
00:05:08
Speaker
Well, true. I mean, he just came back from 26 years out of the past. So I get that. But there's a certain like. I don't know. no This is where it gets kind of like ah between this and then the other lore of Jumanji movies.

The Mysteries of Jumanji's Board Game

00:05:24
Speaker
Yeah. Because like not everyone comes back feral and like. I don't know.
00:05:35
Speaker
Like almost like he doesn't know what's going on. Yeah. It it seemed like in the other sequels, like wherever like the Jonas brother was.
00:05:48
Speaker
Yeah. Turned into Colin Hanks. Yeah. That version of him, he was just like chill. He was like having margaritas, just like hang out. I was like, wait, what's happening? Like this is the same Jumanji world. like In Alan's tree house that he built. like Because Alan built like a so sort of like four like tree house, basically. Right. So what happened to that? Yeah.
00:06:11
Speaker
Where was that, Alan? Yeah, because well i get I also have a person we've seen that's in there for an extended a period of time, like the like the you know the the group in the Jumanji, like the rock movies, like those teens rolling in there for like a couple of hours, maybe.
00:06:28
Speaker
And then they're but they're also like inhabiting like ah ah ah kind a see a a digital Jumanji created body. True. True. I don't know. I just remember, like,
00:06:41
Speaker
It didn't dawn on me how crazy 26 years is for like a man to be stuck in like the jungle. And then now that easily like 30 years have passed since that, uh, not 30, like 29 years. since Do you mind if you came out? Yeah. and Yeah. 95. So that'd be twenty almost almost 30. It'd be 30 next year. Wow.
00:07:08
Speaker
So that's basically what's happening to us now. You know, like just spending that long at a jungle and popping out now in your 30s and just like, what the fuck? And I think I would go feral. I don't think I'd be like, hey, anyway, let me track some jokes. Let me have some. You know, I'm I'm glad Rob Williams probably wasn't allowed to ad lib as much because he'll be dropping in like pop culture references that don't make any sense for him to know.
00:07:35
Speaker
He, I mean, he, he, he has a couple, like he's, he said got but it's all like, yeah it's like probably hillbillies. He sings like the Gilligan's Island theme song. yeah But, yeah but yeah, this is definitely, this is definitely like a much more like subdued, but like serious. He's trying to be like, I don't know if he's trying to be like a fun, like action star, but like, it's just like, it's, yeah, it's much more like, you know, physical and not yet not like making like crazy voices and doing pop culture references. Like it's it's just like,
00:08:05
Speaker
straight ahead, kind of like... normal. Normal for a guy who was sick of the board game for like, 20 years. Who's been like, his worst enemy is a guy with like, a rifle. Who looks like his dad. Yeah, oh my god, that's Fordian. Yeah. Do you think Jumanji like, created Vampel just to fuck with him? I'm just like, we're gonna make this guy that like, wants to kill you, but he looks like your dad. I know what your dad looks like.
00:08:31
Speaker
like how does it know what his dad looks like i think yeah you but like that's what we're talking about before we started like what is the extent of jwani's powers like it because it seems like it has like these like kind of like wide sweeping powers Uh, I mean, there's some like movie magic plot holding because there's a lot of things that can go wrong with Jumanji's plan. And I, we question it where essentially the movie opens up with like already like a hundred years prior to the events of 1970. 1969 it's a 1869 is the prologue and it's like two brothers who have, we assume survived a game of Jumanji and there's like, they're trying to bury it in like the woods.
00:09:16
Speaker
And just like, no one needs to, like, need to practice from anyone ever, like playing this game ever again. So, so does that mean that they, they caused havoc and perish at one point and then Jumanji cleaned that mess up. Yeah. And then they buried it after. Like, is that constantly what happens to like, wherever you play it?

Jumanji's Modern Adaptations and Potential

00:09:40
Speaker
Like it always causes mayhem and then it cleans up after you're done.
00:09:45
Speaker
Yeah. I think if you beat it, then it will, it'll erase everything it did, which is also, which also, it's just weird for like, what is it? Yeah. What is it? What is its goal? Like, what is your body? Like it just wants to be played and then, uh, cause chaos. And then here's the thing too, Zach, you ha it has to call you. Not everyone can hear the call of German. Yeah. Kids. It calls like under a certain age, like we can hear it and then adults can't hear it.
00:10:13
Speaker
So it's like, it wants whats to lure kids to play it. That's not good. Yeah. Also, it's not just kids that are normal, like no drama kids. It seems like all of the kids and in all the running of the Jumanji movies so far, if we're saying they're all canonical, which they are. Yeah.
00:10:33
Speaker
They call dramatic teens. like That's the requirement. like You either are being bullied, you've got friend issues or girl issues. Your parents died. Parents, you get into that board game. Yeah. Board game is going to drumbeat its way, and then you're going to find it. That's why I give credit to the ah Welcome to the Jungle, which was ah like something different. you know I like to say, OK, hey, transformed it It tried to mix it up. It made the the like, let's not ruin the neighborhood vibe. But I know in the next Jumanji movie, they're they're essentially saying now the video games come out and you know, it's just going to be it's going to be the first one I got. Yeah, first move again. Yeah. But yeah, but yeah, that's it's me. Yeah, that's like part of its part powers to it is like it can like you know transform itself into like a video cartridge and then it can and then it like can like
00:11:30
Speaker
It manifests like an entire universe inside of it, the board slash game. I know we talked about it in the past where we would love to see before it got to the video game part, it became something like a VHS game or something. Or something where it's like, oh, it evolved, but like not quite. Jibachi's like aware of, it's aware of like trends. Like it's like, I know it's hot right now. DVD board games. I see it, see it's super hot right now.
00:12:00
Speaker
I got turned to like ah I got turned to a DVD. I mean, it'd been funny after. it like Let's say they do another Jumanji movie like 10 years from now. And. It evolves into like one of those like social media in-app games like Farmville or like ah or like a VR headset. I don't know if your headset is going to be retro. You're weird if that is like we need to have holograms first, then the ah headset becomes. Yeah.

Character and Actor Spotlights

00:12:30
Speaker
I think I think the the next evolution is like they need to like combine the Jumanji and like the thorough universes because they're like stir is kind of like it's like a side or big thing is like a successor but fully corporate that and just have it like Jumanji it's like it's like it's like oh no we're in space now somehow I would love to cross over
00:12:58
Speaker
But yeah, let's let's let's dive into ah the the saddest shoemaker son. Like yeah young Alan who yeah bullied his dad is is like very overbearing and wants him to go to like a ah ah boarding school.
00:13:19
Speaker
Which is a quick question. like i forgot like You kind of forget like how like important like Jonathan Hyde was to like the 90s. Like he's in like so many huge 90s movies. Oh yeah. Like its if you need a British guy that is like, like stern, but also respectable, like Jonathan Hyde was the actor. like Like his run was Richie Rich, Jumanji, Titanic, Anaconda, the mummy.
00:13:53
Speaker
Good run. Yeah. I mean, he's he's still like still doing stuff. He's just in like, um I don't think it's out yet, but it's coming out soon, like The Brutalist. It's like a Adrian Brody movie. So he's in that one. I've seen like the A24 style like trailer. I still don't know what the fuck that movie is about.
00:14:16
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's like a biopic about like an architect who strives the Holocaust and comes to the United States and like kind of like designs buildings or something it's like it's it's it's like it's like four hours long it's something it's something like ridiculous like it's some huge epic thing yeah i mean it's one i think like is it based on a book i mean i think it's i mean i probably know i heard i've heard people say it's it's like what megalopolis like wanted to be ah
00:14:50
Speaker
Or my glasses should have been instead of like the like Tommy Wiseau fever dream of Christopher Coppola. Yeah, I'm taking a quick look at it. And it's like, this makes sense. like It's about a guy who just dreams of like building like great buildings and sort of takes the suffering he's been and was like, how do I make buildings be that like, not oppressive, because that's essentially what a brutalism style is.
00:15:16
Speaker
um yeah Last year, I won an architecture tour in Chicago, and between Chicago um and Pittsburgh. like We stopped by some of the architecture places. Also doesn't help that my wife is an architect. So like I like brutalism. It's just like cold and efficient. A lot of concrete.
00:15:38
Speaker
also um It's cool that Jonathan Hyde is like still working. you know It's one of those things where he's not in a lot of lead roles, but he's one of those that guy actors who, when he shows up, like you you so he stands out. Yeah.
00:15:57
Speaker
and just just like so So many movies are like, you know

Jumanji's Social and Economic Impact

00:16:01
Speaker
especially the 90s, all the movies that we watched, would it's like growing up as kids in the 90s, Richie Rich and this.
00:16:09
Speaker
Uh, and then, you know, getting into like the mummy and the con and stuff like that.
00:16:17
Speaker
But, uh, yeah. But yeah, he, reject an yeah he but he runs like the shoe company. It's, it's, it's crazy. Like their family, like, well, the town is Brantworth, but then like the parish family just like is like the most important family in that town. Like like it it was like founded by them or like, they're like the richest people in that town. and
00:16:38
Speaker
it is so funny to think that because what out them that town goes the shit oh my god yes it's like the classic like um I mean, it happens in so many movies, it's like, it's like that this like ideal, like, you go for like the sixties or seventies, like there's like, you know, fifties or sixties and then they cut like nineties, it's like all graffiti and homeless people. And like, it was as if like, Biff Tannen, like, yes you know, there, it it makes no sense how, like, did the parish company, like when they went out of business, did they like destroy all the schools? What's going on? Yeah. The economy just like collapsed that down when the shoe factory closed.
00:17:21
Speaker
But I think they're making, they're making just like their, uh, like actually, like, no, like dress shoes, I think. But there's like the crazy thing of like, uh, David Allen Greer has, has like invented like high tops, I guess. Probably like, when was like, like Air like air George, like the eight, like eighties, right? So it's like, it's like, he's like, he's like invented like high tops, like 20 years before they actually get invented. Oh, and like the movie uses that as like a plot point, but by the end we have no idea what happened. Like.
00:17:52
Speaker
did. Well, it's assuming that they keep making shoes and they're doing well. And I guess yeah they invent sneakers before. Yeah. But, um, yeah, no, David, hi, David Allen Greer should be running that company. Not, not, uh, not Alan, like
00:18:13
Speaker
It's because like essentially he had the idea, the forage, that he made a sneaker using like whatever parts in secret. You know what I mean? like yeah He didn't have to work for that parish company. He could have started his own sneaker company. He made yeah he made like a 90s sneaker in like the sixty s late 60s. I think some sneaker parts are like made like were used to made out of like like space age, like fabrics. You know what I mean? Like where did he get like a foam machine or a like, I guess like the right plastic mold that didn't exist back then. Like he had a hand carved that. Yeah. Well, yeah I guess, i but i'm looking I guess, I guess there was like converse, like all stars were in the sixties, but then it's like not like those those like those are old school looking. Those are, those are like basically like, it was like, they just like,
00:19:11
Speaker
Air Jordan's where they put like Parrish on them. Well, the original high tops are the the Converse. They even are like the 50s. But yeah I'm thinking not the version that he made. He definitely made like a 90s. Like basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny because like in that town, it doesn't look like anyone plays sports.
00:19:36
Speaker
It's right. they but Well, they're at bikes. I love like there's like that, like the gang of like Schwinn bullies and like chasing all around, like pretty beat him up pretty savagely. Like he gets my god shit kicked out of a bike and like a shitload of witnesses. They didn't, he didn't get beat up privately. He got beat up in front of his father's factory. Yeah. And then he he was close to it or something like that. Cause then later on,
00:20:03
Speaker
he just walks through the town square or something and then enters a construction yard. And everyone just starts leaving their equipment, just walks away. I think the construction yard is like outside the factory because it says like, it's the, they're building like more offices for the factory. And so it's like, it's like right next, they're building right next to the factory, which happens to be where they, those brothers buried Jumanji. But like,
00:20:27
Speaker
Alan wanders really far into that construction site. No one stops him. Oh, i well, I think I think it's like lunchtime or something. They all just like, or it's like, cause i think like ah like a food truck or something. Let's check rolls up. So I was just like, well, lunchtime, we don't care. Unsupervised cases like water through the construction site. It's fine. Also, he like it's such a like a shit such a shitty move from Alan. Like, to like he knows he fucked up like David Langueur's shoe and he just like doesn't say it. He just leaves. and Like let's let's say like you're fired.
00:21:02
Speaker
He's just like, oh, I'm out of here. like Also, how how old do you think David Allen Greer is in like 1969? Like 20s? Is he supposed to be? I guess so, right? good because quick Because then he's because then he's he's a cop in 1995, which is 26 years later. So he'd be like in his 40s or 50s.
00:21:27
Speaker
da David Allen Greer wasn't that old in like the 90s, so he had to play older. Yeah. He's like a, he's like a, he's like like, he's like a bar talk. He's like, we're talking something. He's like, I've been a cop too long in this town. Well, it just seems like the town does not care about the flow. You know, it it just seems like, uh, as soon as like there's some sort of incident, everyone, everyone in that town knew what to do is to go on riot. Like oh yeah the sha of that no society at town is breaks down.
00:21:59
Speaker
Instantly like it was already kind of like a shitty town looked like cuz y'all the there's like dumps There's like trashcan fires and homeless people all around but then and like buildings are like falling apart Then it's like yeah second. There's like giant mosquitoes and monkeys running around It's just like loot like just like loot everything like burn the whole town down like yeah That's crazy. It wasn't even like the monkeys were looting like the main stores Like I get downtown how far they're able to walk. Yeah in the beginning But the town went crazy really quick. Yeah. they're I mean, they're they're going every, every store, like they're like, it's like the the big, like to save a lot later. They're like, everyone is there just like running around like black fries, like stealing everything. like
00:22:43
Speaker
I guess also, but I guess also like half the town is, is like getting it like infected by like the mosquitoes and like going to the hospital. Cause everyone's either getting sick or looting. There's no in between.

The Threats Within Jumanji's World

00:22:58
Speaker
Which is it is it is kind of crazy like like the first thing that comes out of the board when like Peter and Judy start playing it is like the mosquitoes and they're like the most dangerous threat because they're like they're like like giving people malaria or whatever they're giving them. It's just like they're like like I think at one point they said like 50 people have like gotten like like weird like it's like whatever the weird sicknesses that the mosquitoes are giving them. Yeah yeah like jungle fevers and stuff like that.
00:23:22
Speaker
Yeah, because because it seems like it's like you want to kind of ramps up like it's like it starts out fairly easy and then ramps up. It's like the dangers as it goes on. But that's like a rally gauge is like, oh, yeah, mosqui the giant mosquitoes that can like break through glass and also like give you some sort of like bizarre jungle fever. That probably does have a cure because because this board game just made it up to create these mosquitoes.
00:23:51
Speaker
And think isn't the second one the lion? Or no, the second second second one's Alan. The second one is Alan, because they roll a five. and But then and then but then the also like the lion comes out. And then Alan helps to fight the lion. And then like he's like, hey, I'm back now.
00:24:14
Speaker
Well, it's funny, because that's where Alan's like, you rolled an eight or a five, and I'm back. And I guess that's like common. Five is pretty common. Yeah. i think yeah So i'm I'm just thinking like, uh, as long as like Sarah, before she ran out, she could have rolled a few more times. hu But does that mean like, if Alan was stuck in the game, she would just kept playing by herself. Like she would have just kept rolling. What's in in the jungle, you must wait. So I guess, I guess that means it's kind of like, he's like,
00:24:49
Speaker
ah Yeah, he's like stuck in there like it's like he lost the turn or like he's or it's like You lose your turn until you're like someone rolls a three a five or eight to like rescue you But it's just but but it just had it's just because because of what happened like it was like 26 years before someone rolled a five eight and We were talking to like the rules of like cuz Alan and Sarah start the game in 1969, and then they don't finish it, obviously. But then when Peter and Trudy find it, they're able to add their pieces on after the game already kind of started. But it's so but it was only like one turn. So they they it was kind of like it got, it would have been like if, it would have been one of their turns anyway, if they were all playing together to begin with. But then we're talking about like- That's what I think. But yeah here's another thing. Do you think,
00:25:44
Speaker
ah because of like, I don't know, like destiny, it knew that ah basically,
00:25:58
Speaker
sorry, i'm thinking my I'm trying to train as well. Like, do you think Jumanji had premonition about it? Like, it it knew it was going to be like having more players.
00:26:18
Speaker
I mean, it does, it lures them, it let it lures them with the drums. So it wanted it wanted Peter and Judy to play.
00:26:28
Speaker
But yeah, it's it's it's kind of like, we we were talking about before we started recording, like, if if if somehow, of like, you know, Sarah and I, I don't think it would go on to like a second turn, and then they were like, two turns in, would it not have let them, like, add any more players after that?
00:26:49
Speaker
Yeah, because what cause yeah cause one term one turn each is kind of like, oh yeah, the game literally just started. You can just like add people on, and they can just like do their first turns, and it's no problem. But then if you're a couple turns in, then I guess you're kind of like stuck you're stuck until you finish that game.
00:27:07
Speaker
And it's also it's also like so insanely lucky that um when they when they need to find Sarah, that she like never left her house. she's She lives in the same house she lived in, and nothing happened to her. like She didn't die or anything bad happened to her. She's just like, all right, um yeah, I'm still... like They just like go to her address. like like basically kidapper which got it weird ah Well, Well, she passes out because Alan's like, hey, I'm back. And then they drag her back to the the house. like You have to play this game with us. You can't leave.
00:27:46
Speaker
They're like holding her against her will to play this game. Yeah, yeah. And ah I Robemos even has like a sword. He slams the sword and is like, we're playing.
00:28:06
Speaker
I do like that where he's basically has no patience anymore. Uh, and, and, and like, honestly, he starts off pretty strong with like his knife and his like the wall, the jungle, he does drop that line.
00:28:27
Speaker
And he like, he like wrestled the alligators. Like he like, um, like, No side deal with like ah whatever the pelican or something, whatever that bird is. Yeah, you can talk to it like nature wasn't a problem for him. I think he was fine with the the ah like animals, the wild creatures. It's just Van Pelt shows up and that's where, you know, he's got his like most dangerous game going on. Yeah. and see It seems like Van Pelt was hunting him even like in Jumanji. Yeah. And it's implied that like for years he's been trying to avoid Van Pelt. Yeah.
00:29:01
Speaker
But then if so if someone else rolled and then got like you do you think like the spaces are like it like you want to like gives them like each space is like already like it's a pre-termered thing or it just like decides like I'm not all right we're almost there like spider that you doubt like I think it's that I think because it's like it's aware of what's going on and it's being a dick yeah cuz I feel like if they defeated the challenges too easily then it wouldn't have thrown been pelt at him mm-hmm And know ah also know it knows who's role it knows it knows who needs to roll. Because like if someone tries to roll, it's not their turn. Nothing happens. and And also it knows if you cheat, because Peter tries to cheat and turn in that his punishment is he turns to a monkey. Yep. So that's that's where I'm thinking. No, it's sentient and it's an asshole.
00:29:50
Speaker
It's like, yeah, we're going to send your your childhood. the ah the the The big game hunter who like was hunting a child in the jungle is going to try to kill you.
00:30:04
Speaker
I do love Vampelt. It's basically the scene from Terminator where he goes to the gun shop and like upgrades his gun. And he gets that like insane like ah like machine gun, silenced sniper rifle. but harold He gets a barrel loaded.
00:30:19
Speaker
uh assault rifle slash like sniper rifle but like with like infrared scope like we we know they i don't even know that's like legal you know i i think even in the 90s that is super not legal you can't have all those attachments and then just be like what are you hunting it's like uh

Supporting Characters and Economics in Jumanji

00:30:41
Speaker
tanks the most dangerous game like
00:30:45
Speaker
But but think this also didn't matter because he was like not good of a shot for most of those places. He couldn't kill Alan with that super gun.
00:30:56
Speaker
and he And then like he pays for it with like those like golden coins. which i like Is that the currency of Jumanji, I guess? or It's like John Wick. something They have like gold coins as their currency. Yeah, that was you're right. I didn't realize he paid him in Assassin Wishes. Yeah.
00:31:16
Speaker
And the gun shop owner was just like, oh, okay. Yeah, we'll, we'll waive all the legal paperwork. You can just take that gun. As a kid, that joke blew over my head. You know, like it is one of those, um, messed up jokes that, uh, as you get older, you just get the nuances. Like there's so many of those. Okay. So like the gun shop owner, uh, did you catch how many times, uh, Judy like brings up her dead parents in very nonchalant like sad and twisted ways. Well, I like her character Quirk that she is like ah a compulsive liar who just makes up like insane bullshit. Yep. But it's like she just like almost believes the lie.
00:32:02
Speaker
Like her delivery of it. I'm like, Jesus Christ, kid. but just Yeah, there's a there's a point where like she like does it and then like like just does it like without even like not even think about it. And then appears like shit like stop like serious. Like tell the truth. Like this is this is actually important. I think I think it's at the it's at the when it's like ail's at his like parents grave. And then she's like, oh, yeah, like oh yeah our parents are dead, too. They were like ambassadors in the Middle East. And Peter's just like, shut up. Shut up, Judy. like It's like they died in a car crash. the day Yeah, Yeah. Now they're being raised by Lilith from Frasier. Yeah, i so like I saw her too. I was like, it's Lilith from Frasier. But BB. BB Newworth, yeah. She's like a famous actress. I mean, that's this point at this point in her career, she really won like an Emmy.
00:33:00
Speaker
And it's like, she's in Jumanji just because like, you know, it's a good career move, but kids like me know her from Frasier. Yeah. I think she, I think she was on Cheers too. So yeah, she was on Cheers, but I knew her more from Frasier. Yeah. I wait, was she more on Frasier than Cheers? I think so. I think, I think, I think little, like he turned up like once or twice out of Cheers. You mean Frasier?
00:33:31
Speaker
No, well, ah she wasn't, she, cause like Frazier was obviously not Cheers. And then like, I think like, like it might've been like, maybe it wasn't when you're still married, maybe or something and like the, you know, the continuity of Cheers slash Frazier. Yeah, no, I think they were still married, but their marriage was on the rocks. Yeah. That's why, that's why he so was, it wasn't what the Cheers. They know, I think she was supposed to be with Shelly Duvall or not Shelly Duvall. Shelly Long. Yeah.
00:34:02
Speaker
but I think she still comes back. Either way, um you know, you're for an aunt, she drives her best. She buys a mansion for her like her niece and nephew. like Was the real estate so cheap in that, that buying a mansion in 1995 was like affordable?
00:34:24
Speaker
I probably but anyway it was absolutely so in like a day. Oh man. Yeah. that She is so efficient at cleaning because it's like, it's yeah, it's like rundown. It's like, there's like, you know, yeah, 30 years, almost of like dust and like leaves and whatever, like growth going on. Yeah. She cleans the whole, like the whole house up like one day, but yeah I guess it was cheap too because the people thought it was a murder house.
00:34:53
Speaker
I guess that's it. I guess they, um, it was on the market because no one could push it. Which i but I guess also, I guess also cause it's not California, you don't, you don't have to disclose if it's a murder house.
00:35:06
Speaker
Yeah. You know, I feel like, um, nowadays you're going to know that like it's going to be harder to disclose that. I think you're certain, like there's certain states where you you have to like disclose, you have to like disclose like, oh yeah, someone got, someone got murdered here, but then there's a search where you don't have to.
00:35:22
Speaker
because you should just find out later like oh or this house about like someone got murdered in here okay but this that was the whole premise of that that like quibby show like the murder house ah flip or whatever where they like ah help people like redecorate their murder houses and that was all in California
00:35:50
Speaker
Yeah, let's talk about that. Let's talk about how, like, the real estate lady swindled, like, out of town or... I don't know if she swi... I mean, she obviously gave them a good deal, so I guess, like, she didn't really swindle them, but she also, like, did tell them that, like, the whole town thinks that, like, the people that lived there before, like, murdered their son.
00:36:10
Speaker
And, okay, not only did the town think they murdered their son, they... then then, like, they passed away in, um... like, four years later? so Yeah, sometime later, yeah.
00:36:22
Speaker
This is 1991. Let's assume the movie's supposed to take place in 1995. It is, yeah. Because Julie said it's 1995, yeah. So they lived in that town for 26 years, just the town just like shunning them, basically. And then, wait, before we get too far, too, like, are we going to talk about the squatter that's in the factory? Oh, my God. Like, the world's like, like, the world's nicest, like, homeless man. Like, he was just like. I think that guy,
00:36:51
Speaker
and I looked him up. I got his name again. Like he is basically, he's like a homeless guy, like a bunch of movies, but that's all he does. Like he's kind of his like thing. He's just like, he's just like the homeless guy that shows up.
00:37:03
Speaker
But yeah, he's like, he's like so knowledgeable. Like he knows exactly, he knows everything that happened to help Alan. Like tell, like tell Alan what happened. ah Gives him some clothes, like gives him like a cup of coffee. Like luckily, like yeah luckily he's like, uh, yeah, like extremely like nice homeless man.
00:37:21
Speaker
Could have been different. This town feels like it wouldn't be like ah having a nice homeless guy. He would be super aggressive, like, ready to, like, stab. Like, the townspeople are like that already. right I'm surprised he had that, like, that like I'm surprised no one else was, like, in that factory. Like, that seems like a, like, a pretty, like, solid place if you're like, you know, you need shelter. Like, it's this giant factory. Structurally, it seems structurally pre-, okay, like,
00:37:50
Speaker
even though it's like kind of run down, but like at least draw the elements. ah Lloyd Barry is the actor. and yeah he was He's a homeless guy in Alien for the Predator Requiem, scary movie. Obviously Jumanji.
00:38:07
Speaker
ah
00:38:12
Speaker
couple of A but couple other movies too. yeah like that That was kind of is like one of his things. He's just like, yeah, you guys using a homeless guy? I'm sure I'm fair that weekend.
00:38:31
Speaker
But yeah, luck luckily he was like available for like exposition. let's say yeah no It was like, knew everything you needed to know. But yeah, um,
00:38:49
Speaker
So when we talk let's talk about some of the other stuff that comes out of the, like, is there anything like that comes out of the board in particular that you're like, was like, uh, you're a fan of or like, is it like your favorite thing that came out of the Jumanji? Well, the monkeys have always been like fun characters. Um, yeah, I do. I do love that they're basically, they're like, they're basically gremlins. They're basically just like asshole gremlins that just like cause havoc. Yeah.
00:39:14
Speaker
Uh, they're not exactly like villainous because they just sort of show up and cause us chaos, but it's not like, Oh, we need to fuck with Allen. We need to fuck with the kids. Like it's just them kind of adapting to the environment. And like I said, that town parish is already like issue. So all they did was just be part of the problem.
00:39:38
Speaker
Uh, you want to talk about the, the rampage scene? Cause that's like, that was like, like I guess that big special effects to watch like 30 CGI animals run through a hallway. Yeah. The, the Stampede.
00:39:55
Speaker
Yeah. I just, I just remember like that. I mean, that was in all the trailers. It was like in all the promo, like that was like the big, that was like the thing of like, yeah, come see Jumanji. Look at the Stampede. Look at these animals.

Iconic Scenes and Their Impact

00:40:07
Speaker
Well, I think yeah it's only it's only like ah ah yes' like three. They show up three times. They they burst out of the house. They burst through like the like central square when like Peter tries is like in question the car. Then ah in front of a and Nora, which is at the like the ah train stop.
00:40:25
Speaker
Oh. I do, I do love, um, I love like slow rhino, like, like, like, it's like, like indoors, like stop by them. It's like, they all go by and there's like, just like one like kind of slow rhino. Just like at the end, just like, hold on guys. I'm catching up. Wait for me. Like, but did you notice the, um, uh, when, when, what's his face monkey boy hides in the Peter? Yeah. Peter.
00:40:55
Speaker
He should have been dead. Probably. Yeah. It's not even like, a oh, that was like he just panicked and he could have lived like it. It looked like that car crumpled in on itself. And he was under the steering wheel. So it was like so like that would have crushed out on like doubt on him. he at least At the very least, he would have been like more trapped in the car than he was like running in public. Right. Yeah. Like Jaws of Lifestyle, you like cut him out of the car and it's like not just like pull him out.
00:41:25
Speaker
easily. yeah they They just like open the door and all right like get out like but it it was such a weird move because he couldn't drive the car he didn't know like I couldn't figure out why he would have ran there first besides like okay let me just hide in the car and it's like well you're dead this is like you've picked the role of all this wide open space yeah
00:41:50
Speaker
The whole message is a little bit weird because like it's like it like the game of Hop Theo between them and Van Pelt. Because Van Pelt wants to lure Alan, so he's either taking the board like trying to kidnap Sarah or the other other kids and be like, I'll hold you and he'll come and I'll kill him. But the whole sequence in Sir Save a Lot is pretty great. yeah peter i Peter comes up with that like insane like can like canoe like launcher thing. to like like attacked my pelt with like I don't even know how he came up with that. I thought that was like a nod to mousetrap. mousetrap like home alone or something. Yeah.
00:42:32
Speaker
You think his, his, him turning into monkey like gave him like, like enhanced like intelligence. I was like, I know how like, I can like, the guy was like, stuff together. Like, and monkey skills are tingling. It's not like there was a hint that he was doing this or like,
00:42:49
Speaker
he was some sort of like saw trap master in the beginning of the movie. Yeah, he he didn't have any sort of like, yeah he wasn't like building gadgets or anything, or like he didn't really show like a sort of like engineering like prowess, but he just is able to come up with like, if I take a canoe, a mannequin, scuba tanks, you know, a weight set, I can like make it like a rocket powered canoe. like
00:43:12
Speaker
There's also that weird, um it's like only for like 10 minutes, like the the weird subplot where Alan is mad at Peter. Well, he's missing a father figure, so would that scold that? Yeah, it's the weird trying to make Alan show that Alan's turning into his father, is like doing the same thing his father did to him. But it's just like they kind they do it for 10 minutes to move in, and they're like, ah, forget it. They're they're friends again. like yeah It's weird how it starts, too, because like it's it starts because Alan thinks Peter should have grabbed the board when the the like the pelican flew off with it.
00:43:47
Speaker
And then Peter is nowhere close to it. No, he wasn't even close. to Yeah, no chance to get it. Then Alan is just like, Blaine is Peter for that. And then Peter makes that crazy save on the river. And then I guess it seems like Alan's like jealous of him. Was it? I thought he was like, oh, he's proud, but he doesn't want to admit it because he really yelled at him. Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's just like, it's all that whole thing is that dynamic is weird for like 10 minutes. It's just like,
00:44:14
Speaker
yeah aen being a dick to Peter and then like, Oh, I turned to my dad. I'm sorry. Like, yeah, they drop that and immediately. I think that's yeah the writing team, which is like, we can, we can't make this, like this relationship work. Like we, there's not enough material. Like there's, there's so much plot, but there's not enough of it. You know, there's all these interesting things about these characters that art like and in itself like different movies or would take up a big plot. But like people don't want to see that people want to see the jungle come to life in the suburbs suburbs of Massachusetts.
00:44:49
Speaker
Yeah, because they kind of they kind of pair it's like Alan and Peter paired up a pair than like Judy and Sarah pair but then Judy and Sarah don't really have like anything like similar to like stay on a Peter like like 10 minute arc. So it's just like there's like Oh, we'll hang out because we're the we're the the women of the the group. like
00:45:11
Speaker
But it's ah it's not like, like there's nothing like does he just anything like like like, of like, Judy needs to like overcome or learn from Sarah. We'll hang out, I guess.
00:45:24
Speaker
yeah favorite like oh we we Are we going to mention that Sarah was a is a psychic? Yeah. And then she does nothing like she's a scam artist in that town, basically. the Yeah, there's not even like she doesn't use any like she she brings up like just like like BS like Zodiac signs and like stuff like that some sometimes. But like, yeah, there's never anything of like using her psychic skills or if she's actually psychic or just like, yeah, she's just like a tarot really like like cars. Yeah.
00:45:55
Speaker
ah I also love that, um, like Peter and Judy go to a school in this town, like one day and then the next day, the thirty second day they go, they skip school and like play Jumanji. yeah
00:46:11
Speaker
I do. I do also love the subplot of like David and Elgin Greer, like his cars, like getting progressively more destroyed. I don't know how it's things drivable. Like it's full of bullets, like, like monkey poop. Yeah. Um, it, it, like.
00:46:26
Speaker
It doesn't have brakes anymore. like he I know he puts like more brake fluid in there, but the problem isn't the fluid, it's the leak. Yeah. It got shot by got high part like a high-powered sniper rifle. like And then it crashed through the department store. Snow runs, though. I always let it seem like it's dragged into the woods and it gets crushed and crumpled.
00:46:56
Speaker
by the evil like the plant vines.
00:47:01
Speaker
Oh, are we going to talk about how the monkeys eventually took over the police station? yeah Oh yeah. they Yeah. Like when he calls, calls back to base and it's just like, it's smoky shattering. So they, yeah, they've, they've taken over the entire police station and everybody, like everyone either like fled away or maybe got killed by monkey kids by monkeys. They had guns, but he said guns. So.
00:47:24
Speaker
Was this the director's comment about something? Like, was this, it's like an artsy thing where it's like, Jumanji is actually about anti-police. Like what? yeah The police are monkeys. Like, yeah, they're like, like they're ineffective.
00:47:41
Speaker
I definitely noticed like, like rewatching it recently too, like, um, the last like 20 minutes is like ramps up like so far. I'm just like, do you mind just like throwing so much crap at them?
00:47:53
Speaker
The third, okay, when do you think the third act of the movie takes place? I mean, probably after the department store scene, when they get Joe Angie back and they get back to the house, I think that's the third act. It's weird, isn't it? It's like a fourth act. Because the house is like a different thing, like a whole, and then it's like, the the set of it, it looks great. Like now I look at how that, they they recreate the the house and they junglified it.
00:48:23
Speaker
And I mean, you already see just like the kitchen, the attic, the foyer and then the room, the den that they got to play like the game in, right? Yeah. But that room, there must be more rooms and stuff that that plant spread out like the wildlife, which we never get to see. Mm hmm. But I would have loved if they like ran around the house like home loan style and then like, you know, it keeps transforming and there's more weird animals in there.
00:48:52
Speaker
But yeah, now that third set where it floods the monsoon and the alligator parts. If it floods, if it floods, there's an alligator and then the lion gets loose eventually. Uh, spiders, um, quicksand, the fortress of quicksand, there's an earthquake.
00:49:15
Speaker
I forget, is there like, is there one more thing? I mean, I'll just shows up again. Yeah. And you can see what the plan was from earlier. Like, like, sort of like, like new, like dangers. It's like, yes, the month, month soon. The quicksand, the quicksand look like, you know, we're talking about shaky special effects that don't hold up. That quicksand effect is very bad. We're obviously, he's like getting stuck to the floor. Like it does not look good.
00:49:45
Speaker
But then the spid the spiders look pretty, like I think spiders are mostly like, like, uh, animatronics. They look pretty great.
00:49:54
Speaker
yeah oh the i do let Well, but like yeah the gator, I remember it was another like special on TV. It's like, Hey, check out like Rob Williams, wrestle the saligator. I don't, I don't watch a lot of ET, um, like, or those like movie and um'm entertainment news things.
00:50:13
Speaker
But do they still do like, hey, we've got a sneak peek of behind the scenes and they watch the actors on an animatronic? I think they probably just put that on YouTube now or something. I feel like they don't do that because it spoils the movie and stuff. I remember seeing that and like, oh, OK, I know that's going to happen in the movie eventually. So as a kid, I was expecting it.

Jumanji's Consequences and Reset Mechanism

00:50:42
Speaker
I do like, I think my favorite bit from like the insane throwback is like when Alan tells Peter to go get the axe from like the woodshed, and then Peter, like it's like locks up here, like pulls the axe to stay outside, and then he like starts hacking the door, he's just like looking at it, and he's like, oh wait, this is the axe, and then runs back in. So that's also weird, because that's like the fourth wall break. Where you just like look strictly at the camera, just like, I'm an idiot.
00:51:14
Speaker
I'm not sure if that's like cool or but I'm like not a big fan because the movie wasn't like doing that awareness. You know, it just sort of just did that. And then it's like, hey, wink, wink.
00:51:24
Speaker
yeah
00:51:31
Speaker
But they just said it doesn't manage to kill any spiders with it. He just wings at it like a broom. You just got a broom. I'm sure they were in the I'm sure it's like so much like so much stuff in the there's like tennis rack and stuff in the attic They might could just use like anything in the act like I sweat those like spiders away Probably like a baseball bat. I'm sure I had a baseball bat was good. Like I'm sure it's like stuff up there like news And then yeah, then then like the the like that's the spore is up there and it shoots duty in the neck which we're talking we we were talking before required to like if yeah she if she
00:52:06
Speaker
Because that was like a so like see like a fast, acting poison. that it's like If Alan didn't win and like reverse everything, like if it got to Jui's turn and she couldn't like she was like like dead and couldn't finish playing, are they they just screwed? like It would never like end. there' just like like Everything would just be like, Because even if they put the dice in her hand, yeah you have to say Jumanji when you get the end to win. So it's like, you're going to be so screwed.
00:52:37
Speaker
Fampel would have killed Aelan and then Peter would be the monkey forever and Aelan would be destroyed. and I think then Parrish would just like get sucked in Jumanji, essentially Jumanji would live. Is Jumanji's goal is to take over whatever territory it's in and then spread the jungle curse in there? Well, I mean, if if that was his goal, like it it I don't think it would, why would it like allow you to reverse everything?
00:53:04
Speaker
if it wanted to like you know cause chaos and like spread no idea like like it gives you like it like it's kind of like it's kind of generous because like it gives you like the like if you win everything like well wellll I'll take everything away like it like you'll undo everything that literally everything happened like let's take it to the cat in the hat like it's like yeah yeah you're right it's like a cat in the hat story
00:53:36
Speaker
But it's cause yeah, it's like... I feel like it is if it's more like a horror movie or something, like I feel like Jumanji would like want to kill people and have their souls sucked into Jumanji and they like it would get stronger with each soul or something, but it's not that, just like it just wants to be played and then like just like unleash chaos and be like, ha, good game, ha ha!
00:53:56
Speaker
like um so and like And then everything's back to like how would it like it is but turning back normal.
00:54:06
Speaker
And then the video game version is even more generous, because like it gives you like lives. You have like three lives, so you can actually like get killed and come back. But then you can still get stuck in there, right? If you lose all your lives, we never see what the consequence is. Well, I think in the video game, like the video game sequels, if you don't complete the mission, you're stuck there until you complete whatever the mission is. like It gives you like an objective. I think the second one, they had to find like this gem and like touch the gem and say Jumanji or something. Well, the first one.
00:54:37
Speaker
what what one of that yeah One of them was like you had to get like if yeah fight get to like the gem and touch it or something, and then say Jumanji. But yeah, that one gives like the game the video game usually like ah gives you like a certain objective to complete. And then if you don't finish that, then you're stuck there.
00:54:58
Speaker
And I think the thing, too, would like like ah with like joe joe Joe Jonas slash Colin Hanks, like he had like one life left. So I think he like just didn't, like he was like afraid to like, like, well, if I die, I'm gonna stop, I'm dead. So I'm just like hide and stay here. Not like not do anything. Well, he also didn't have like a crew. And for like, again, the mission, I don't know if in that version it's the same like mission as the new people who joined, you know, like it seemed like,
00:55:32
Speaker
Like there's the world, for like in his version of the game, does it

Sequel Continuity and Time Travel

00:55:37
Speaker
restart for him? And he starts off with the same life count from the last time.
00:55:43
Speaker
I don't know. Once we get to like, welcome to the jungle, we'll talk about that more. but yeah You also like, you also like give, I guess you can give each other lives and stuff too.
00:55:58
Speaker
it's kind It's kind of the same thing as we were. If you beat the the mission or like you if you finish the game, then like like there's like time travel involved. I think like Count X was like, oh, yeah, I went back to 1996 and got to live my life again. And then the same thing here. like when they When they beat Jumanji here, like ah Peter and Sarah are like revert back to their Their future consciousness like goes back into their teenage preteen bodies. and they're like So they retain all the knowledge they had of the future, but now it's like they can make it an alternate timeline in the future, because they can change events. So there goes my theory that basically Jumanji is like like a Doctor Who, where it just lives in. Like a Doctor Manhand and Doctor Who thing, where like it all happens at once, but different phasings of it.
00:56:53
Speaker
Yeah, ah because essentially, yeah, like, is it always based on the last member of your party time travels back to? Well, I mean, I think if I think if everyone, everyone just late lived in 1995, it would just like to sort of first everything and like there that would just be it. But like, because it started in 1969, it it referred everything back to that. that's so That's when the game starts. They referred me back to like start the start of the game. Save. Yeah.
00:57:23
Speaker
I would suck if like you played this, but like now imagine this movie through the perspective of Judy and Peter. Well, they don't don't, they don't remember anything. They don't remember anything, but it's one of those things where like, okay, now everything you've known so far, we're going to drastically alter your past. You know what I mean? Like when you wait wait, what's going to happen? You know, you don't know that's the consequence. It's like, all right, well, you might accidentally erase your existence because you sent the wrong person back and it's a butterfly effect. Yeah.
00:57:52
Speaker
Well, I mean, luckily, it seems like Alan and Sarah like change everything for the good. Like, they, like, Dave Alan Greer, like, has his job and he still works for the company and in 1995. Like, Alan's parents are still alive. Like, the company's doing well. Like, they're gonna have a they're gonna have a kid. they they they save They save Peter and Judy's parents from being killed and and on that ski trip.
00:58:24
Speaker
So I got, yeah, yeah, yeah. How bad was that ski trip? Cause it seemed like they were just driving and then they fell off a cliff. They were in, yeah, they were in like a car crash, but i like, it must I can't, I don't think they specifically say it was like a storm storm or something. It was just like, they're just like, oh yeah, they were, they were, they went to Canada, they got the car crash and they died.
00:58:42
Speaker
But when they went at that, at that like Christmas party, you're like, oh yeah, we're playing it. We're gonna, we're actually, we're gonna, we we're gonna do a ski trip next week to like Canada. and They're like, no, don't.
00:58:52
Speaker
Yeah. They kind of like look at those kids and it's just one that was like, all right, well, um, I'm concerned why my new boss is like really interested in my kids. Yep. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, we know you, we know so much about you and was a monkey. Like what? I'm so glad you're not dead, Judy, for that poison. You think, do you think Judy's still a compulsive liar in this altered timeline? Probably. Cause it didn't, I don't know if that compulsive lying was a result from the uh the death because her parents it's it's actually couple their parents death it's just like i'm gonna become like a like a compulsive liar just like make up bullshit yeah to fuck with people like and then somehow somehow jumanji ends up in like france or somewhere where they seek french because like those two french girls find it on the beach
00:59:49
Speaker
we'll never know because apparently did they beat their game until like some equal somehow yes somehow it ended up like it they must have played it or like it and beat them like it's uh you know gotten rid of it and end up back in like uh wherever wherever jumanji will uh welcome to the jungle takes place whatever town that is
01:00:13
Speaker
Oh, I guess, I guess, is it the same time? Is it still Brantford? I think it's still Brantford. So it's like it goes it back to New England. Yeah. Cause they, did they, cause they always throw in the river, like the creek or the river in town. And then it like, some of that flowed to like France or like, so where do we speak French? Then they threw, then then wherever the French rules, then they threw it back in like the ocean and it flowed back to like New England.
01:00:42
Speaker
essentially they won and then whatever canal that French canal they threw it away there because I think I think I'm gonna be it for like welcome to jungle like so like the main kid like Alex like his father say he found it on the coast like he found that game on the coast like it must like wash back up on shore somewhere well I mean we're also assuming the German Jumanji game is just like can be thrown away like a floating piece of like styrofoam. I'm also thinking do you think yeah, do you think do you think it can manipulate itself like that? Like I'm like to transform myself to like certain areas or just like wherever it ends up just like, well, I'm here now because I'm here. Like maybe because it because it can like you can say obviously it senses people are like kids are near or like people are susceptible to like it's like drumbeats say the worst people.
01:01:33
Speaker
It's so weird to think that Jumanji seeks out like young players. Yeah. Their souls are the most delicious. like But then it's not. But yeah. But then it's like not. It doesn't seem to have like malicious, like like demonic like purposes. It just like wants to be. it wants like That's like the like the players that wants to play it, I guess, or something. so You know, I'm really surprised.

Jumanji as a Cultural Phenomenon

01:01:58
Speaker
I mean, it's probably going to enter in some weird public domain later. but There hasn't been a killer board game in a while.
01:02:09
Speaker
like like ah Like a movie? Yeah. I mean, we had the Ouija movies, but I guess that we used to remember that board game, yeah. Yeah, it's more of a parlor trick game. So that's like the closest we've gotten, and that's been 10 years. Maybe not 10 years since the sequel. At least nine years since the sequel, I think.
01:02:35
Speaker
I mean, yeah, there's ter terrible. That's not really a board game. um Wish. Wish upon. That was like that was a a wishing box. That was at the port that was the game. and
01:02:53
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I guess i mean ready or not, I guess, was kind of like a card game. There was a card game that like, like you but I think it was like whatever you chose was like, because she chose like hide and seek, but then it was like the like the the killer version of hide and seek. I mean, Escape Room, that's those were like it's a totally different that's like a escape that's like a tolly for like, you know, it's Escape Room, not a board game, but.
01:03:24
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Yeah, I'm just looking for like other board game movies. Of course, it's Clue. There's a movie called. The Family Pact. And it plays out just like. It plays out like Jumanji, where a family gets sent to the medieval ages and to figure out like werewolf, basically. Oh, yeah. Wow. So it's essentially another werewolf movie. But it's kid friendly.
01:04:03
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Oh, there was, I think, was it, was it the blackening, I think? Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. That was like- Because that was the actual, they were playing an actual like, it was like the blackening was like the game they were playing in that movie.
01:04:27
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So maybe we could have done the blackening next year.
01:04:33
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Oh, I guess beyond the gates. that I guess that was like a VHS board game, apparently.
01:04:42
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Yeah, there's just there's been some, but yeah, definitely. Definitely time for like a ah yeah like ah like the horror version, like the board, like a Jumanji, but like the board game is like, you know, it's like Jumanji, but the board game is evil. like Give me that movie. It'd be cool if it was like if it was like ah ah like cabin in the woods or something where it's like it's it's like it's literally jimaji but like it puts out like horror things instead of like african animals like it's just like it's like oh you rolled this you rolled the space uh here's like the the mass killer comes out now it tries to kill you like yeah oh or the ghost comes out yeah you rolled on this spot now comes the like um bog monster yeah or it's like um what is it called like
01:05:31
Speaker
copyright skirting. Like, ah yeah.
01:05:38
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Royalty free. like Yeah, royalty free Jason. Mm hmm. It's ah it's it's baseball baseball catcher's mitt man. like He wears like a baseball catcher's mitt instead of our catcher's mask instead of a hockey mask. Instead of a machete, he uses like a trident or something like a baseball bat.
01:06:01
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but Like a like a site. Yeah. Sickle, maybe. I want to write this movie now. Yeah, get out of that. Straight to DVD. Mm hmm. You could put you could put all those like ah like you could use like Winnie the Pooh and like Steve with Willie and all ah all the copyright free. Like, oh, my God, they're part of the monsters. Yeah. Now that they've they've become horror icons, I can now use them.
01:06:30
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Yeah. It should beat the Popeye movie that's coming out. Popeye, yeah. Popeye, you can be used.
01:06:38
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it I think Pinocchio is now too, right? I don't know. I don't know. I think Pinocchio is always bad, I think. But I think it's like, they just added him to like the ah there were that the, the Pooh universe that they're making, Winnie the Pooh horror universe.
01:07:01
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But yeah, anyway, Jumanji, 1995, still tons of fun. um like i know I feel like it was like, I don't know if it was on like TV a lot. I feel like it was like a big, at least one year it was like a big Thanksgiving. Remember like they never had big like Thanksgiving movies? Kind of? Like Fox would be like like, like NBC is like, we're we're playing Jurassic Park on Thanksgiving night. like
01:07:31
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I feel like Jumanji was like what ah definitely one of those years that I think I probably rented it a few times. Yeah, I definitely like rented this. I think I saw this in theaters and then I rented it. And then because like it was on TV, like just commercials and stuff like that. I feel i feel like this is ah this is a TBS. I think TBS had this on a lot. Yeah, that sounds about right.
01:07:59
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But yeah so yeah, some special effects don't hold up, but like most of most the rest of the stuff is still a lot of fun. And then, like yeah obviously, the series still lives on. i think that Is the new one the third one coming out like next year, I think, or 2026, the third in like the the new trilogy? Yeah, I think so. I think because The Rock was doing other things, they'd await. And there's like, ah I mean, there's, there's like, there's literally like, you you can buy like a Jumanji board game now. I obviously won't select some things to kill you, but like it's, it's that look like, I think they even had like a deluxe version of like wooden everything. It's like the, it was like the, basically like the movie prop version of it. Oh, that's cool. And I think there's, there it's in, I think it's in like Europe. So like when the European theme parks has like, ah they're like making like a whole like Jumanji
01:08:53
Speaker
like area, I think based on like the new, newer movies, but like it's like, there's like a Jumanji like roller coaster and stuff like that.
01:09:05
Speaker
There's been like, there's like a there's a much bunch of like board games like and video games. There was, there was the cartoon that we did kind of like, we didn't really mention much, but like that was, I remember watching that on like UPN. Yeah, of all the channels of Jumanji on it,
01:09:20
Speaker
It's UPN and then it wasn't that like wild Thornberry style of like no portion of characters. it Yeah, it was fair. It was like a very like off-putting character design that show. It made me feel uncomfortable. But but the cartoon also is like totally inferred the premise where it's like Peter and Judy go into Jumanji every time. And then and I don't know if it's like a sequel or it's a prequel show. I have no idea now. It's like it's like an alternate like universe for sure. I guess it's just like cause' like it's like Peter and Judy find Jumanji. But then when they play they and then' there's no Sarah. It's only Alan was like the only ones that sucked into the game somehow. And then you have to you have to like you solve you get a clue. So it's where it's more like ah it's more like a trivia thing where it's like you have to like
01:10:10
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figure out what the clue each time. And then if you figure out the clue, you get to like leave Jumanji. But like the whole, I guess as we can be like the whole like premise was that Alan didn't know what his clue was. That's why he could never leave. Oh, so he basically spent the whole show like trying to figure out what Alan's clue was. And well, did they ever solve it? Yeah, they did. theyve They eventually solved it. And then that's like the series ended as like Alan finally escaped. Oh, I didn't know there was actually a series ending. Yeah.
01:10:36
Speaker
I thought it's like one of those shows that just sort of ended. He never escaped. He never let back home. Yeah. I don't even know if the remake also addresses that. Oh, the quantum leap remake. Yeah. Yeah, he just he just he also never returned home.
01:11:10
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But yes, I think they'll they'll do it for this week's show. ah Come back next week. We're going to be diving into more of more of a deeper cut. um The Tom Selleck classic runaway, which i is celebrating its 40th anniversary next week. We're going to dive into all the Android hunting craziest of that movie.
01:11:33
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a A Michael Crichton directed classic, one of the one the few movies that he actually directed.
01:11:40
Speaker
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01:12:10
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