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Crossover Thursday: Toon vs Hammers
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Iain hosts Michael from Daily Newcastle and Tom from Daily West Ham to preview Monday night's clash under the lights of St James' Park
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Transcript
Introduction and Greetings
00:00:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Welcome once again to Daily Newcastle. I'm your host, Ian Mackay. Today is crossover Thursday, so it still seems far off to me, but I'm joined firstly by my colleague, Michael Grameslaw.
00:00:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
How are you doing, Michael?
00:00:25
Michael
ye All good, thank you very much Ian, how about you?
00:00:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you. Not too bad. Not too bad. And secondly, by Tom Elkins. Youthful, Tom Elkins. and Hammer extraordinaire. How are you doing, Tom?
00:00:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thanks for joining us tonight.
West Ham's Struggles and Tactical Issues
00:00:41
Tom Elkins
I'm doing well mate, I think I'm like most West Ham fans right now just trying to keep in high spirits when it's kind of difficult to do so, you know.
00:00:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Indeed, yes. Looking from afar, it does seem that West Ham had struggled when we would not have expected them to struggle. We were talking just before we started recording that I thought that West Ham had a pretty solid team and that they'd added to it during the summer. But results don't necessarily bear that out. Can you put your finger on What the issues are at all, Tom?
00:01:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Or I'm not second guessing you, am I?
00:01:21
Tom Elkins
it
00:01:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's how the West Ham fans feel.
00:01:25
Tom Elkins
Yeah, I mean, if there's any West Ham fans that think we've had a great season, then I don't really know what to tell them, to be honest. Yeah, it's really tough. we've you look on the surface and the blueprint is so solid. Like we've moved from David Moyes who I will never say a bad word about. He has given us so much, given us, you know, our first silverware in absolute donkey's ears. And his style of football, you can call it kind of outdated, but it did a job and it gave us so much more success. And I think more importantly, kind of progression as a club and the way that we're valued by other teams, I think it was,
00:02:01
Tom Elkins
we were given a little bit more respect. I think we'd kind of been lacking up until then. And then, you know, he goes, he he leaves us kind of on the precipice of being regular European contenders for some sort of silverware in any of the European tournaments, maybe not Champions League, obviously, but.
00:02:17
Tom Elkins
You know, we're we're in and around Europa League and Conference League every year, which is where we aim to be. And then we have a really successful summer. we We make lots of good signings. We get rid of some of the, you know, kind of older fringe squad players and we we bolster and we also add depth in positions that we needed it. So, you know, on the surface, it looks really good.
00:02:37
Tom Elkins
It's just not clicked. And it's it seems like every week we've had discussions over on the West End podcast about you know what we think went wrong, what could be better, you know what little adjustments we could make, maybe some tactical stuff. And then as it goes week upon week upon week where we keep having the same discussions, it's really difficult to point blame anywhere other than the manager. I don't really know what else to say about it because we've been so poor in the start of games. i think if you look at the amount of golds we concede in the first half it's embarrassing, it's really bad and we we seem to start so slowly and we have to build into games and the only time that we are ever successful is after we've conceded and then we end up having to galvanize and then kind of pull something back from the game and we've been using substitutions quite a lot and they've been working well but then it's
00:03:28
Tom Elkins
why is it every game we're using substitutions and the substitutions are working well, then surely that's an issue with how we're setting up the team because we clearly have the players to play well, but
Injuries and Management Challenges
00:03:37
Tom Elkins
they're on the bench. So why is that? And, you know, we've had obvious issues with disciplinary stuff as well. You know, there's there's been two sending offs recently that one of them, the Kudus one that's been extended, which I think is a bit, it's a bit of a shock to be honest, why it's been extended. Like I understand why it's ah a red, but to extend it by another two games to me seems very harsh but there's not really a lot you can do so yeah I don't know there's there's a lot of stuff swirling around that you can maybe point as a factor but overall it it has to come down to Lopetegui
00:04:01
Michael
Yeah.
00:04:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
You've got some encouraging news there Michael, looking back at Newcastle's last six games because I think three, four, five games ago Eddie Howe was making three substitutes at half time wasn't he?
00:04:22
Michael
Yeah, I think it's one of those where, for us, we've got similar issues to to what was founded really start the season. It wasn't really clicking. And that's with a manager who'd been here for up nearly three years.
00:04:34
Michael
you know I think if you watch us against Everton or anything like that, realistically, we looked we looked very poor. the last three games, yeah I think Chelsea, we've dominated Arsenal. I think we were the better side in that 90 minutes, which you know against Arsenal is a shock. And then Nottingham Forest, who were apparently the in-form team in the league, we blew them away. But just on the so Ham front as well.
00:04:59
Michael
I think do you think potentially it's one of those that Lopategi stuck a lot of these I'm not saying all of his eggs in one basket with the style of play but relying on full krug being fit and ready to go because I've seen a lot of stats about West Ham sort of just played more long balls away from home than like any other side I'm pretty sure I'd see and then when I do watch is Antonio has the ball holding it up for a long period. So you'd think Somerville, the amount of money that's come on, come in for, you know, you'd have him, Paqueta Kudus Bowen, all sort of run off him. Do you think that was maybe the intent at the start of the season? And that's what you've wanted to do. But realistically, Antonio was not the same player that Fullkrug is. So maybe that's why you've struggled.
00:05:46
Tom Elkins
yeah this is this is the discussion that we've been having as well it's really tough when You know, there's still a large majority of the squad that we have now that is very much entrenched in the David Moyes way of playing football. So when our backs are up against the wall, they kind of revert to that way of playing. I think that suits Mikhail Antonio, it suits Thomas Soucek Obviously, Jared Bowen thrived in it really well when when he was under Moyes. And you can tell that when we're in games and we're struggling with the system that we're trying to implement,
00:06:17
Tom Elkins
We just go back to this system of kind of long ball, kind of more route one, more direct. But but because it doesn't seem to be in the kind of tactical training sessions that Lopetegui is doing, it's nowhere near as effective as it has been under Moyes
00:06:23
Michael
Yeah.
00:06:32
Tom Elkins
So yeah, it's tough. And the the stuff with Nicholas Fullkrug it is really demoralizing because it seems like every week it's extended by a week or two weeks, his injury. When he first got injured, when he was away,
00:06:42
Michael
Yeah.
00:06:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's not related to Callum Wilson by any chance, is he?
00:06:46
Tom Elkins
Maybe. It's just frustrating, isn't it? It's like, if he's going to be out for four months and just say that, don't say, oh, it's going to be a couple of weeks. And then in a couple of weeks, you go, oh, it's going to be a couple more because it just leaves fans.
00:06:54
Michael
Yeah.
00:06:58
Tom Elkins
It's that little bit of hope that he might be Mac that kind of keeps us clinging on to, oh, when he comes back, you know, everything will get into place.
00:07:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
wi
00:07:05
Tom Elkins
And, but, you know, we're now in November and he's only played 60 minutes or so.
00:07:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've had that with Wilson.
00:07:11
Michael
yeah
00:07:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
with wilson Wilson was injured in preseason training. he was He was fit for preseason, wasn't he? But he got injured training for the first preseason friendly.
00:07:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
We still haven't seen him.
00:07:23
Michael
Yeah.
00:07:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
We still haven't seen him. And and this ludicrous stuff comes out that he's not injured. He's just not ready. What was it they said two or three weeks ago, Michael?
00:07:34
Michael
To be honest, it's about that. Yeah. I think it's one of those where they were saying. He's not match fit because he can't sprint, et cetera, but he's not injured enough that you could say, oh, you wouldn't be able to play. it's an odd one. It's very likely, you know, muscle related in that stage, he's getting to the last stage of his career, just won't be able to do what he did as ah ah as a youngster. But yeah, I think we saw it again with Harvey Barnes as well last season. I mean, Harvey Barnes' toe injury went on for for four months and I can't ah can't remember who it was this season.
00:08:06
Michael
we've just had someone who's had a two injury and they've come back in two weeks and at the start it sounded exactly the same yeah exactly this yeah it was yeah so it's it just goes to show like it's weird yeah
00:08:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
through it.
Potential Turnaround for West Ham
00:08:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, excellent. and Just when you were running through there though, ah ah you know, you just said in the same breath, Bowen, Paqueta Kudus How on earth, how on earth are West Ham struggling? Whoever's devising the tactics,
00:08:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
<unk> You've got those guys going forward. It just seems crazy to me. I mean, I think all three of those all three of those are playing against West Ham if they're in Newcastle's squad.
00:08:43
Tom Elkins
Yeah.
00:08:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
You agree, Michael?
00:08:49
Michael
Yeah.
00:08:51
Michael
wouldn't say guaranteed to start, but they would definitely feature pretty much every game for us over the course of a season from either on the bench or so in the starting lineup. They're that good.
00:09:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
but I think Bowen would start on the right wing, no problem at all.
00:09:04
Michael
Oh, absolutely.
00:09:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
and and And maybe umbar you'd have to find a place for Kudos as well. I think hes he's the best of the three then in my view. Mainly, I like West Ham, but that's because they usually roll over and get beat by us. And it's always a load of goals. There's always a load of goals.
00:09:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
m Look, i that's a little bit of an insight, if you like, into into West Ham's trials and tribulations at the start of this season. I still think at some stage it will turn the way it turned for us three or four games ago and then West Ham will go on a run and and these guys will be able to show just how good they really are. He is hoping it's not on Monday night when it starts. Anyway,
00:09:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm going to pause there before we go into the second part. Michael, you have a message from lovely Zencaster, I believe.
Key Players and Tactical Predictions
00:09:59
Michael
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00:10:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Good work, Michael. That's the new one as well. So we're complying with the rules at least this time.
00:10:31
Michael
Yeah.
00:10:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
m So Newcastle, Newcastle in eighth on a good run of three straight wins.
00:10:40
Michael
Yeah.
00:10:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Play West Ham ah at St James's Park under the lights on Monday night. We're feeling confident. I think that's fair to say. We've had a one or two podcast where we've discussed how that game is going.
00:10:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I've already touched on a number of really scary players in that West Ham lineup that term i'm I'm concerned about. But tell us, Tom, who is it that we should be looking out for in current form that it's going to be the ones that you're looking to do us some damage?
00:11:24
Tom Elkins
Well I think you've hit the nail on the head with highlighting Kudus and Bowen. you know Obviously Kudus isn't going to be playing this game because he's still
00:11:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:32
Tom Elkins
he is you know I think is last season he had the most successful dribbles in the league by a very large margin.
00:11:37
Michael
Yeah.
00:11:41
Tom Elkins
Yeah, and and his ability to take on a man, I think is second to none, but obviously he's not going to be there. But his understudy in Cresencio Somerville is very, very good. He's looked so promising for us. He was the championship player of the season last season. And in the the first few games of the season for us, he didn't feature too much because, you know, it's really difficult to displace Kudus
00:12:01
Tom Elkins
With Kudus being suspended, he's filled those shoes really nicely. His his style of play is quite similar. he He likes to take on a man and and something that's really struck me about him is how determined he is. He's not a huge guy but his kind of tenacity to try and keep the ball and as soon as he loses it, trying to win it back, I think he's It's really encouraging when your team's going through such a poor spell.
00:12:23
Tom Elkins
It is good to see players coming in and fighting for their place. And when they do get the opportunity, they're they're really trying to take it. So that's really promising from from a West Ham point of view. And then, you know, on the other side, Jared Bowen, I don't really need to say anything about Jared Bowen.
00:12:36
Tom Elkins
I think he's criminally underrated. I know people say, oh yeah, he's good, but he is unbelievably good. He just scored a ah ah goal for England and with basically his first touch.
00:12:46
Tom Elkins
I think it was his first touch.
00:12:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was, it was excellent. Straight off the training pitch.
00:12:49
Tom Elkins
Yeah, unbelievable. And I think the the thing that strikes me about Bowen he's not really quick and he's not really strong, and he's not really technical, but he's so direct. When he gets the ball, he just wants to try and he beats a man, he makes a decision and he cuts in on his left foot and the kind of cutting him from the right on his left foot and curling it in the the top left corner of the goal, I think is something we've seen so often. So yeah if if I was you guys, that's the one thing I'd be really wary of is the,
00:13:17
Tom Elkins
giving our wingers time on the ball. And when they have the opportunity, they're so able of kind of creating stuff. I think Jared Bowen specifically, he seems to be involved in basically everything positive that we do.
00:13:29
Tom Elkins
His goal and assist numbers this season haven't been huge, but it's kind of difficult when you're in a struggling team. And he had also been such a ah ah good source of kind of positive creativity for us.
00:13:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:41
Tom Elkins
So, so yeah, I'd say it's got to be.
00:13:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
He comes down, he comes down the right by and large, doesn't he?
00:13:45
Tom Elkins
Yeah.
00:13:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
So that will put him up against Lewis Hall, which will be a hell of a battle to watch.
00:13:49
Tom Elkins
but Definitely.
00:13:49
Michael
Incredible, yeah.
00:13:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Really good battle. Not Dan Burn this season, is who Bowen was facing last year, and probably why West Ham went 3-1 up after an hour.
00:14:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
But there you go. We all know what happened in the last 20 minutes. Harvey Barnes will be on the bench again in reserve just in case we need him. and What about you, Michael?
00:14:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Have you got any particular ah ah other player? Or what I was going to say about Somerville? I think he was on our shopping list at the start of the summer as well, wasn't he? Because we were in the market for wingers.
00:14:20
Michael
Yeah.
00:14:20
Tom Elkins
a lot of people.
00:14:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we looked at him, although I fancied Nonto rather than him from Leeds. Well, I think he still will make a breakthrough and come into the Premier League at some stage.
00:14:31
Michael
Yeah.
00:14:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
One thing you might not have known, but we have heard this from Steve Bruce a number of times. Jared Bowen was actually sitting in Weatherby services with Steve Bruce, waiting for Mike Ashley to say, oh, go on, then, for Steve Bruce to bring him to Newcastle from Hull.
00:14:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Ashley wouldn't wouldn't release any cash for him.
00:14:55
Michael
Yeah.
00:14:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
And of course, Bruce took him to Hull from, was it Hereford that it came from originally?
00:15:02
Tom Elkins
Yeah.
00:15:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it's a very, very minor team. So it could have been so much different, couldn't it? We could have had an England winger in the Newcastle squad about four or five years ago if if Steve Bruce had caught his way.
00:15:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anyway, m what about you, Tom, and in who is it that you fear on the... the Actually, I'll save that to the last bit.
00:15:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
We should really be telling you, Michael, you should tell Tom who we needs to be wary of.
00:15:34
Michael
Yeah, I think it's it's going to be one of those.
00:15:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Don't say don't say anyone in a black and white shirt.
00:15:37
Michael
Oh.
00:15:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Be more specific.
00:15:42
Michael
I thought you were going to tell me to go for the referee or something from there. Yeah, so it's like David Coops is refereeing the game.
00:15:46
Tom Elkins
You're saying, you guys know something that I don't. You're saying some referee of 50 quid or something.
00:15:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:52
Michael
Yeah, I think it's one of those.
00:15:54
Michael
I think for me, the big battle for in the game is going to be Joe Linton versus Wambasaka on left or left hand side, your right hand side.
00:16:05
Michael
And I think it's one of those where Joe Linton isn't the kind of player that dribbles, tries to dribble past the fullback, which let's be honest, we know Wambasaka when it comes to someone dribbling against him is one of the best in the league.
00:16:16
Michael
I've mentioned in ah one one of the previews we did early on the week of tactics Tuesday, was that Joe Linton's the kind of winger that we're gonna if we're ever going to launch it during the game it's going to be over at that side and I think If Joe Linton can win the aerial battle, which he did against Nottingham Forest, he did against Arsenal, and did against Chelsea as well, I think that's going to be the the position that really says, right, that's how we're going to win the game. Because we can we've got Gordon. We've got Isak Everyone knows our fantastic Bruno. But I think Joe Linton's the one that really goes understated. And when Joe Linton plays well, Newcastle win games.
00:16:53
Michael
it's as It's as simple as that really and I think I'm expecting them to have another good game on Monday.
00:16:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's interesting.
00:16:59
Michael
but
00:16:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Interesting that you've put him on the left wing as well, Michael, given that. Where he switched onto the right wing against Forest in the second half, apart from solving a real headache for us. and He scored a wonderful goal, cutting in and hitting it with his left foot.
00:17:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who knew he could do that? um So that yeah, Tom, just in case you've got a hotline straight through to Julian, Joe Linton might be playing on the left. He might be playing on the right and it could be Anthony Gordon who who will run rings around.
00:17:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
anyone, sometimes fall over the ball. But yeah, I think if you if you wanted somebody to go past Wanda Saka and it wasn't Bowen, you'd you'd probably ask Gordon to do it.
00:17:30
Tom Elkins
Yeah.
00:17:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah ah Gordon with Lewis Hall bombing on as well. They're lethal, they're lethal. I would add that you've got to
00:17:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
You've got to watch out for Joe Willock if he's in there as well. He's the midfielder who bursts through and and goes into the attack. He's the extra man so many times. And developing some sort of telepathic relationship, we saw it with Isak a year or two ago. He's now got a brilliant relationship with Joelinton if Joelinton is on the left. And let's face it, if he's got Hall and Gordon to play with, then they they look very confident and very easy to play with as well.
00:18:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it'll be a tough afternoon for West Ham, unless things start to click into place, that's for sure. and I'm going to break slightly early there and ask Michael to do us our GSPM advert, if you don't mind.
00:18:39
Michael
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00:19:10
Michael
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00:19:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Excellent, thanks Michael. So Michael, how are we going to line up first?
00:19:17
Michael
Oh, to be honest, I don't think we'll be, other than Danburn for Lloyd Kelly, which is a force change, unfortunately, with Danburn picking up that yellow card against Forrest.
00:19:29
Michael
I don't think we'll change anything. I think we'll start off with Linton on the left, Gordon on the right, which up against Wamba Sacra and Emerson is probably my preference.
00:19:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
with and
00:19:39
Michael
And then at the same time, I think midfield three will be Willick, Bruno and Longstaff, so no space for Tonali just yet. And then as you mentioned, Livramento Hall will be the full backs. I've mentioned Kelly, partner Fabian Schar and of course, alex Alexander Isak will be up top.
00:19:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't think it'll be a lot of change from that. One or two of the changes that we might have, of course, we're hoping that on the bench, joining art strengthening our bench will be firstly Kieran Trippier.
00:20:14
Michael
Yeah.
00:20:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's kind of promised. And Callum Callum Wilson is meant to be back after this international break. So maybe Callum Wilson will.
00:20:24
Michael
He's got another toe injury as well.
00:20:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
will will get on the bench will come on and you know you you will note on he scores against West Ham every time he plays against them. One of his favorite. One of the favorite teams, although Michael's got a brilliant stats about Alexander Isak Avenue.
00:20:43
Michael
Yes, I haven't got it in front of me but Alexander Isak scored more goals against West Ham than any other club in his career Despite only playing his three times and there are clubs he's played like five or six so No, but got to stop sometime
00:20:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
There you go. So. Excellent.
00:20:57
Tom Elkins
it's not very well is it
00:20:59
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and Tom, how a West Ham little line up do you think?
00:21:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Can you predict can you predict it?
00:21:06
Tom Elkins
i think
00:21:09
Tom Elkins
I think you can, to be honest. I think especially when we've got a couple of suspensions, it makes the selection choice a lot easier. I think it'll be Fabianzky in goal. He's been preferred in goal over the past few games. He's played really well. and you know When we played against Everton recently, he was outstanding. And I know Jordan Pickford was as well. It's really depressing when the two goalkeepers are probably the best players on the pitch.
00:21:29
Tom Elkins
and then it'll be back for we'll have emison as I left back our member sakura right back like we ventured earlier and It should be kilman and tativo as the center backs. I really like that partnership actually I think it's a really good balance of kind of commanding big physical presence in kilman with a kind of more still physically imposing but more agile more kind of aggressive physical tativo, so
00:21:54
Michael
Yeah.
00:21:54
Tom Elkins
So far it hasn't been amazing, but I think it will improve. It just has to give, you know, you have to give these things time. And then it'll be, I think we'll probably play a four, two.
00:22:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Of course.
00:22:06
Tom Elkins
We'll play with two DMs, and then there'll be someone that's slightly further forward, and then there'll be a front three. So with our our two DMs will be Soucek and Rodriguez. That's been preferred since Edson Alvarez has been suspended. Obviously, Thomas Suchak I think is someone for us, like you mentioned with Willett, kind of a midfielder who makes late runs and kind of pops up in really obscure places and finds himself on the score sheet quite regularly. So yeah, I think he's definitely someone to watch out for, especially on set pieces.
00:22:33
Tom Elkins
I think that's someone
Off-Field Complications and Influences
00:22:34
Tom Elkins
we might be really strong against you guys because physically we're so imposing.
00:22:34
Michael
Yeah.
00:22:39
Tom Elkins
I think especially when you look at the the size and the strength that we have in the team with, you know, with the players that we've got, it's really promising. And then in the hole, it'll be a piqueta. this season hasn't been great hasn't really come alive like we know he can but on that same kind of trade of thought if he does switch it on which he can quite easily he is really difficult to play against and you can see why City works so hard to try and sign him in the summer because he's just got that little bit of magic that is sometimes just impossible to play against and then it will be
00:23:09
Michael
Yeah.
00:23:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
On him. Sorry to interrupt um on him.
00:23:11
Tom Elkins
you
00:23:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Have you got an update on his? situation with his Bettingthing
00:23:18
Tom Elkins
I don't know. It's complicated. It's really complicated. It seems like every every month or so, there seems to be some new revelation about something that he's done or something that one of his family members have done that just make the situation more complicated. I think the most recent thing was that he threw away a phone that had been given back to him after it had been investigated, but he shouldn't have given he shouldn't have thrown it away because they wanted him to investigate it again, but he didn't know that because he thought they'd already investigated it once. so I don't know what you're supposed to do with that or how you're supposed to put any sort of timeframe or potential punishment for it.
00:23:51
Tom Elkins
No idea, but I don't think it's going to be anything this season. I think it will, it will definitely take time.
00:23:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:23:56
Tom Elkins
You know, like these things tend to do that. They take time to get resolved. So hopefully this season is not too much of an issue for us.
00:24:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Course.
00:24:01
Michael
Yeah Yeah
00:24:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
If he'd signed for Man City, they could have had their lawyers tie the thing up until after he'd retired.
00:24:08
Tom Elkins
Yeah.
00:24:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
That would have been all right, wouldn't it? But there you go.
00:24:10
Tom Elkins
Yeah. and
00:24:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Paquetta, of course, so nearly a Newcastle player and best mates with Bruno. That's going to be interesting, in those two together. I don't think I don't think.
00:24:18
Tom Elkins
Yeah, I think that'll be a fight battle actually. they don't They don't seem like guys will pull punches against their mates.
00:24:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:22
Tom Elkins
I think they'll probably go in harder, which you might like.
00:24:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
No. There is no love lost between them when they're playing each other. Remember that.
00:24:27
Tom Elkins
Yeah, exactly.
00:24:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
So then you've got a front three, who which won't have Kudus in it.
00:24:31
Tom Elkins
Yes. no it will not unfortunately i don't know what you guys think about his band getting extended but i think it's very harsh like yeah obviously what he did he class it as violent conduct but he's not actually swinging for the guy he's just pushing him away and he's pushed his face away but it doesn't seem like that needs to be a band that's extended i don't know what you guys think about that
00:24:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:24:51
Michael
Yeah, personally, I didn't think it needed to be extended. I felt thought the original band was fair. But we saw Fabian Schar red carded for literally not even touching Ben Barrett and Diaz, with his head. So i get I get sort of why it's been suspended. But ah ah thought I think from a West Ham point of view, I sort of looked at that game. And I said to a few friends, I said, look, I don't watch Kudos on the Daily, but it looks like he's given up.
00:25:19
Michael
And I don't know if it was one of those where, because he tried dribbling past players so much and he tried to just make it happen. It looked like on his own. I don't know if that was maybe the reason why he looked frustrated, but it it didn't look good at all for him. Always time and you'll see him a lot more than I do. I assume he's not like that most of the time, but it just seemed like one of those where, let's be honest, it was stupid, but.
00:25:45
Michael
I don't know if that's his character or if it was just a spare of the moment thing. What do you think?
00:25:51
Tom Elkins
Well, it's difficult, isn't it? I think especially when your team is going through such a frustrating patch, he is someone who is such a creative force for us and I think it just comes down to the general frustration in the dressing room because
00:26:05
Michael
yeah
00:26:05
Tom Elkins
you know having two red cards in pretty quick succession isn't really something that you'd expect and it's not really something that we're used to it by some we're not we don't tend to get a huge amount of red cards you know maybe we have slightly in the past but these days we've been a lot kind of more well behaved you could say
00:26:18
Michael
All right.
00:26:21
Michael
Yeah.
00:26:22
Tom Elkins
and I don't know. he He is someone who is very passionate. And I think I don't think you get the amount of kind of take on dribble numbers if you aren't really giving it 110% all the time, because to have the kind of audacity to try and dribble by someone and do it successfully as many times as he has, he has to have that little bit of bite in him to think that he can be a man.
00:26:33
Michael
True.
00:26:43
Tom Elkins
Yeah, I don't think it's anything long term. I think it just is frustration, you know, and I feel like a lot of the players are feeling the same and the fans are feeling the same as well. It's frustration at why is it not working because there's no one factor that is wrong so it's so many fingers being pointed and so many people being like what's going on why are we doing so badly why are we doing so badly that you understand that the players are getting frustrated and
00:26:58
Michael
Yeah.
00:27:06
Tom Elkins
Yeah, I don't think it will be anything that kind of carries over when he comes back. And hopefully, if we if we can turn our form around, he will be absolutely electric. Because even in the games where we lose or we look really poor, he still beats people so many times.
00:27:20
Tom Elkins
He can do it so easily.
00:27:21
Michael
Yeah
00:27:21
Tom Elkins
And it's anyone as well. Like when we played Man City at the end of last season, and he was absolutely ripping their players apart. And that's the team that had done amazing things that year. you know So yeah, I don't think it's anything long term, not not particularly.
00:27:36
Michael
Yeah. hope not.
00:27:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
So you finish with Bowen and Somerville on the wings and Antonio the arrowhead.
00:27:41
Tom Elkins
tell yeah Yeah.
00:27:47
Tom Elkins
I don't know if I'd call him an arrowhead these days, to be honest. um More of like a big club just being thrown at someone.
00:27:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
More of a cannonball, I would have said.
00:27:57
Tom Elkins
I think that's what I'd describe as.
00:27:59
Michael
and
00:27:59
Tom Elkins
and he I love Mick an Antonio so much, but his legs just aren't what they used to be.
00:27:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Excellent.
00:28:05
Tom Elkins
And he really struggles to play a full 90 minutes.
00:28:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:28:09
Tom Elkins
and this we've been talking about on our podcast so Danny Ings has come on so many times and provided and and he's someone that is genuinely working really hard to get on the pitch which as a fan that's what you want and I would so much rather start with Ings like a a seasoned veteran scored so many goals in the league
00:28:09
Michael
Yeah. so
00:28:26
Tom Elkins
get him to about 60 minutes and then bring Antonio on as more of an impact player and we can have a more kind of concentrated aggressive version of Miquel Antonio who plays against tired center backs because on his day he is so difficult to play against he's so unorthodox in the way that he plays and he like physically he can take on any center back I would back him in a one-on-one especially when he's backing into the defender the way he rolls a center back and just smashes it in is a work of art, I think, when it happens.
00:28:55
Tom Elkins
When we use him from the start, paired with the fact that we're starting so poorly, he just ends up running, just pressuring the, the, you know, whatever team we're playing. And then by the time he's the half time, he's just kind of lost that edge.
00:29:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:06
Tom Elkins
And then after that, he's just a bit depressing. And then he does come on and done well.
00:29:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're waiting for the subs board to come up.
00:29:12
Tom Elkins
So yeah, I don't know.
00:29:14
Michael
Yeah, I was gonna say I remember.
00:29:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, look, but we're we are we're racing on here, Michael. I want to get some predictions in and I don't want to go too far over our half an hour. So I'm going to i'm going to draw a line on that there now.
00:29:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've got the lineups. We haven't talked about who was scared of, but we kind of have.
Game Predictions and Closing Thoughts
00:29:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm just going to ask for your prediction, Michael. What are we going to do on Monday night?
00:29:37
Michael
oh It's a tough one, but I do think there's going to be goals. West Ham tend to ship quite a lot away from home. I think it's two clean sheets in 20-something games.
00:29:49
Michael
At home, we out we haven't been fantastic, but we'll start to find a ah run. So I think I'm going to go 3-1 to Newcastle. I'm going to steal your prediction, actually.
00:29:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
How dare you steal my prediction?
00:30:01
Michael
I just realised I did that.
00:30:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Every game, every game. What about you, Tom?
00:30:06
Tom Elkins
I now have to make a decision.
00:30:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you think West Ham, is this where it all comes together?
00:30:10
Tom Elkins
Do I want to publicly say that West Ham are going to lose or do I just back the boys and just decide that this is the time where it's going to come good?
00:30:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Be a part of daily West Ham, so I would say I have to back the boys, really.
00:30:21
Tom Elkins
and right I'm gonna go with the latter. I'm gonna say 3-2. I think that we concede really early in the first half and then the whole first half is just drab and dreary and poor and we go really defensive because we kind of shut up shop, try and regroup, get to halftime, make some changes and then I think the second half is an absolute goal fest.
00:30:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right.
00:30:42
Tom Elkins
I think we probably get one, you get one, we get another one, we get another one after that. 3-2, happy days to West Ham.
00:30:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I hope you're wrong. m i i was am um' encouraged by you saying that West Ham concede goals early because Newcastle at home to St.
00:30:52
Tom Elkins
Well, that's good.
00:31:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
James's Park, when they score early, they just keep going for it. I don't know if you've watched and the first 21 minutes against Tottenham two years ago.
00:31:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
That was unbelievable. 5-0 up after 20 minutes. And that's the extreme, but that's what but that's when everything they hit goes into the net.
00:31:19
Michael
yeah
00:31:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I think we'll i think we'll race away with it, to be honest. And I think the second half might be more dull, because I think the substitutions will be made for us to bring some of our fringe players on.
00:31:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it'll be a bit of a stalemate. It'll be a disappointing end. So I will go... I've got to look stupid here, aren't I, if I'm wrong. I'll go 4-0.
00:31:47
Tom Elkins
That really hurt.
00:31:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Tom.
00:31:49
Tom Elkins
No, I don't blame you.
00:31:50
Tom Elkins
I don't blame you. I think if I was a betting man, I think I'd probably get worse odds betting for that because it's probably more likely to happen. So, here's what it is. We'll see what happens.
00:31:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
The Dalai Lama. He's a Tibetan man.
00:32:04
Tom Elkins
Oh, wow.
00:32:04
Michael
Oh, hail a cow!
00:32:05
Tom Elkins
Oh, God.
00:32:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no.
00:32:07
Tom Elkins
Oh, blimey.
00:32:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's, um I'm I'm trying to remember who it is, whose joke that is. I can't remember. I've pinched it off somebody.
00:32:14
Tom Elkins
Just claim it as your own. It's fine.
00:32:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
and No, it's not.
00:32:15
Michael
Yeah, copyrighted Ian Mackay.
00:32:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
nu No, it's not. It's it's a famous status. Someone who's famous for their one liners. It's scary Delaney, someone like that. Anyway, look, on that hilarious joke, I think it's time to draw a veil over our crossover Thursday. Thank you very much indeed for joining us to discuss, Tom. You've been a good sport and you didn't even swear when I did my 4-0 prediction. so You're more than welcome.
00:32:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
You're more than welcome to send abusive texts when you're writing. West Ham win 3-2. I'll have deserved it.
00:32:46
Tom Elkins
like
00:32:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you very much indeed for joining us, Michael. With that, we yeah we've got the whole of the Premier League to watch before we we play. as It's all getting very exciting.