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Vol 2 Ch 15: We Can Have Little Slommy

E15 · Fandames with Parks & Nebula
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Your questions, our answers! The sleepover gets a little wild when Nebula's memory short circuits and we go off the rails about salami.

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Introduction & Atmosphere

00:00:11
Speaker
Let's start the sleepover. Let's fucking get into it. I like that intro. I want to leave that as our intro. That was fun. That was a bad intro. That was pretty cute. I was just making random noises, bruh. It was just a cute little theme for our Q&A sleepover. All right. So welcome back to the Q&A sleepover.
00:00:38
Speaker
Well, I say back to the Q&A sleepover, even though this is the Q&A sleepover box. This is just a sleepover where we're doing a Q&A. Yeah, you asked us questions. We're going to answer them.

Burnout & Listener Interaction

00:00:49
Speaker
because we want to talk to you guys because we miss you and we're super tired and burnt out on a lot of stuff. And so it's nice to hear from all of our listeners and all of our friends in our podcast server to just kind of see what they're vibing with and want to know what we're vibing with.
00:01:08
Speaker
Honestly, I don't even want to say what episode this technically is. I don't want to put a number on this one. Don't put a number on it. I just simply will not say what episode technically this is. Simply will not say it. When you see it, it'll be somewhere in the teens. Somewhere, somewhere after 13 and probably before 17. No, we had 14. 14 is out. 14 is out. No, it's Patreon only. No, 14 is out. 15 is Patreon only.
00:01:38
Speaker
Is it? Okay. Yes. I'm looking at our Spotify. I have, I have, I have. 15 was released as an OVA. That's right. That's right. So this will be, but we didn't put, we didn't post or edit 16. 16 never made it. Oh, it'll get there. I promise. I don't know. It's okay. But I just mean 16 is our 15. But I said, welcome to the 16th episode on it.
00:02:04
Speaker
Oh, whoops. All right. This is a number. There is an episode before this. There will be episodes. I don't know what number. Welcome to volume two.

Q&A Kickoff with Cosmic's Question

00:02:25
Speaker
We're in volume two. That's all I can tell you right now.
00:02:29
Speaker
if you're listening to these in any chronological order good fucking luck i'm so sorry try that's all i can say amazing i don't i can't i don't i can't give you any guidance just try anyways with that welcome to fan news welcome to fan news for real
00:02:49
Speaker
Let's answer some questions. Damn. Let's start off with some lighthearted ones. Our beautiful moderator, our lovely friend and supporter of the show, Cosmic, asked us, when is the Jazbone guest appearance?

The Elusive 'Jazzbone' Discussion

00:03:03
Speaker
If you don't listen to my podcast, I have a podcast with my partner, Whooper, called Whooper Nebula's Nerdtastic Galaxy, where we have a questionable guest named Jazbone.
00:03:14
Speaker
who has come on exactly once and never come back. Technically, Jazz Bones made an appearance on episode five, House Castle, and he's in it. That's true. But that was an official Jazz Bones collab. It was not an official Jazz Bones collab. It was not an official Jazz Bones collab. Because Woop was there.
00:03:30
Speaker
Yes, I don't know. They're a package deal. So I mean, technically we had it. But yeah, I like for this show, Jasmine's is really hard to get a hold of. It's really hard to work him into what we talk about because it's just like, you know.
00:03:48
Speaker
He lives in a garbage can and he's like only half corporeal, so it's very difficult to get him to schedule anything. He just can't commit, honestly. I don't know why we're being professional with this. He just won't commit. He has really bad commitment issues. We've tried to make meetings and appointments and it's just not happening. It's just not happening. He loves the fan art though, loves the fan art, absolutely loves the attention.
00:04:12
Speaker
Honestly, I don't know why we keep our contract with him because he's not coming through with any part of his. He's violated it several times. I think he's just using us for this fan art and this clout. Maybe if we withhold it and you send it to the Fandame's accounts instead of the Nerdtastic accounts, then we can blackmail him with it. Yeah, we need that leverage back because he is violating his contract. I don't even know why we've written him paychecks the last few months.
00:04:38
Speaker
You know, that's a good question. I think we need to all re-talk about this because it's just fucked up that jazz once it's on our payroll. I don't know which garbage can he's in anymore. Who's paying him? Have our checks been returned? I haven't checked our statements in a couple weeks. Are they being cashed? I think so. He better not be fucking cashing them. He hasn't been working.
00:05:00
Speaker
Hmm, that's so fucked up. It is a little fucked up. I can't believe cosmic would start this You're tearing us apart. Yeah, we let this we let jazz bones go because we were on hiatus and that was fair enough But like now that we're thinking about it and we have been recording. It's like where the fuck are you? Come on. He's just he's not coming through It's really fucked all his bones out of the garbage can myself I can locate his dumbass and
00:05:28
Speaker
Fucking jazz bones. Thank you, Cosmic, for such a fun question. We love you. Kisses. Cosmic has another question that was sent somewhere else. No. Wait, yes. Yes, he does. Do you want to read it? He can have two. Do you want to go back? Do you just want to stick with him and knock him out of the way? Yeah. Cosmic said, what do you do to deal with a creative funk, like getting back into making, doing, or creating things?

Creativity & Motivation Struggles

00:05:54
Speaker
And we don't. I wish I knew, man.
00:05:58
Speaker
Didn't you hear my whole 10 minute spiel about how I don't know what episode this is? Come on. We truly have been like extremely burned out, me especially because trying to do both shows and then dealing with like a bunch of family shit that happened and then I have a bunch of personal nonsense going on and medical stuff that I was like, but I want to do things so bad. And then I just end up laying on the floor and staring at the ceiling and not doing anything.
00:06:25
Speaker
Um, for me at least, what I have tried to do is to focus completely on a different hobby or different activity. Like if I find myself really wanting or needing to work on one particular thing, I will throw myself into something else so that I can get out the like restlessness of it and then approach what I
00:06:51
Speaker
had been considering doing or something that I needed to do or that I had just really wanted to do but didn't have the energy for it afterwards. For example, I get artist block and burnt out on drawing a lot.
00:07:05
Speaker
And so whenever that happens, I will usually throw myself into a cosplay or throw myself into a video game for like a week or two. And then whenever I feel satisfied with that and I've put in enough time with those other activities, then I will go into full force on whatever art project that I'm working on.
00:07:24
Speaker
And that's helpful for me, but I don't know if that works for everybody because I also have like 17,000 hobbies. Yes. I haven't been able to work on costumes for a minute because right now I am being tasked with, I'm not making any of my own costumes for Akon right now. I'm wearing old things or repurposing some things or I'm just wearing old costumes like Supergirl. So I'm focusing
00:07:50
Speaker
on my next big project. Sorry for the weird pause. I'm focusing on my next big project, but because it's not for me, and it's big, it's really hard for me to commit to sewing. Like the other day, I tried to work on my knuckles cosplay because I just need to make the tank top. It's not hard. I just need to fucking sew four things and call it good. But my needle broke after I finally got a little progress in and I just couldn't do it anymore.
00:08:15
Speaker
And I just I had this big thing I need to get done. But God forbid I do it right now. It just stresses me out. And so I've been trying to not lose this momentum I have with my cosplay, but.
00:08:30
Speaker
I can't focus on making costumes right now. I can't focus on making props. I can't be in that moment. So I've been over scheduling myself for photo shoots. I've been building concepts. I've been making plans and lists and everything else outside of cosplay that's not physically making it because right now I just cannot commit to making anything.
00:08:49
Speaker
And so it's kind of running that balance of still being in the hobby, but not being in the hobby, but I'm going to be real. I have not been able to draw anything for seven months. Um, I was on a train where I was able to draw things at least three times a day, get something on paper, get my tablet, whatever. I was doing really, really good. I was doing expression poses. I was doing gestures. I was just trying to keep myself going. And I haven't been able to do that since, um, there's not anything right now that I feel like I can create.
00:09:15
Speaker
It's just a dead end for me and I'm trying to get over it the best I can I've been trying to do studies. I've been sure it's just not nothing's breaking through I feel like I cannot make anything creatively right now I haven't been able to write in a long time and it's been really hard but cosplay is easy and it's since it's physical and I can be held accountable for
00:09:35
Speaker
like with my social media or if I'm making something on a deadline so I can wear it with my friends or if I have a photo shoot with Gavin, stuff like that. It's like these are things that are physical tasks that need to get done and other people are involved. So if it needs to be done, I'm doing it for them more than myself because if it's just for me, I can't do it right now.
00:09:56
Speaker
I did not answer your question because I didn't get over shit, but you know. I think we both have similar answers of finding something that is creative or tangentially related to the thing we want to do. That way we don't lose the passion, but we still take a break when we need it. Then that gives us the room to come back to it when we feel better about actually tackling that thing.
00:10:20
Speaker
Yeah, but we still have it coming back to it. It will. Well, what can you do? We try. Damn. Damn. Damn, damn, damn. Next question. We're going to put some priority on the Patreon questions. So, Titan asks, what piece of media was your first big obsession?

Media Obsessions & Influences

00:10:44
Speaker
Do you want to go first?
00:10:47
Speaker
Honestly, it depends because it goes back pretty far. I was really deep into Filma Alchemist when I was a kid. I was really deep into Inuyasha and Dragon Ball. But I think my first isolated fandom that was for me was fucking Hunger Games.
00:11:02
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That was when I was in fifth grade. It was the first thing that was not like outside influence because I didn't know what fandom was prior to that because my dad wasn't really into fandom, but I knew of these pieces of media because my dad gave them to me. My mom watched them with me and I was really into them. But for my own personal thing to cling to that really shaped how I view media and like reactive fandoms, fan fiction, blah, blah, blah, all of that stuff now, it's from the fucking Hunger Games series.
00:11:33
Speaker
That explains so much. What the fuck up you already do? I don't mean that in a negative way. I mean that in like, I've heard you speak so fondly of The Hunger Games for so long, but I guess I hadn't put it in perspective that that was like the first big piece of media for you.
00:11:49
Speaker
Well, it's just like, I don't know. I've always been a book kid. Like, actually, no. Another one before the Hunger Games. I was really, really, really into the sister's grim and I really fucking loved that book. I wanted to like kiss the hell out of, fuck, I can't even think of his name right now because I fucking forgot. Whatever. The fairy boy. I can't remember it, but obsessed with those books. So I guess me reading was where I was like, this is where I could have my own thing because I don't know.
00:12:18
Speaker
I loved the things my dad loved and I was super cool with all of it, but it didn't feel like it was my own natural, like, you know, there's things that you fall in naturally on your own that you just love. And so I guess books were the easiest way for me to find that back then because it was stuff that my dad wasn't reading. It was stuff other people weren't showing me. It was something I found and built a love for naturally instead of already having that basis. For sure. But fucking love.
00:12:45
Speaker
I love the Hunger Games. Don't talk to me about the first movie or... I don't know. Don't talk to me about it. I have my own thoughts and words and everything I say disagrees with everybody else because these dumbasses were Team Gale for so long and I fucking hate everyone who's Team Gale. I want you to rot in hell.
00:13:04
Speaker
All right, thanks. Thanks for the call. Were you team Gail? I was, but that's because I didn't- He's fired by her sister. I only read the first two books. I didn't give a shit about the rest. He was such a shitty selfish dude throughout the whole thing anyways. I was also like...
00:13:21
Speaker
discovering that I was not straight while I was reading those books and so it was more of like she's very independent and I'm like I guess I'll pick him because she knows him the longest and I was still under that like I was at that impressionable impressionable age of wholeheartedly believing the media that was like
00:13:42
Speaker
your true love could just be your next door neighbor, your friend from childhood, like that kind of thing. So that's why I was like enraptured in the concept of like Gail being her person. I started reading The Hunger Games when I was in fifth grade and that was when I was about 10 years old. My uncle died when I was eight and my best friend killed himself three months before I started reading the books.
00:14:06
Speaker
And so I had a lot of trauma that I didn't know how to deal with. And so in catching fire when PETA and Katniss actually do start to fall in love with each other and they're having nightmares, I was really, really, really upset and emotional about just
00:14:24
Speaker
how they were there for each other's trauma because I didn't have anyone to be there for me for my trauma because I didn't know how to formulate any of it and so I really really romanticized having that caring thing that's probably why I trauma bond with a lot of people nowadays but I really fucking needed that shit when I was a kid because it's just like
00:14:43
Speaker
It's okay to move past it and accept it and have people who can help support you through it because I didn't even realize it was a possibility because I dealt with grief, so weird, blah, blah, blah, autism. I needed PETA to be there for me. That's my only thing. Fuck that. Fuck Gail. Isolated bitch. Fuck you. I didn't know that. I didn't know that that was a big part of it. That was the timeline.
00:15:08
Speaker
Yup, that's why I read those books like 20 times a year. I just want to give you a hug. That's why I'm so cringe about Hunger Games and I had a whole mental breakdown when Zoe finally trimmed like cleansed myself with all of my Hunger Games stuff last year. Oh my god. Last year she was like, you cannot hold this pita blanket anymore and I started crying like almost like it was emotional like please don't please don't get rid of this shit you don't need to do that.
00:15:35
Speaker
but you know, well damn. I think I cut the blanket, hold on. That was like so heavy and intense. Sorry, I dropped that shit without warning.
00:15:45
Speaker
But mine is stupid. No, say it. Sorry. I should have known. I should have known. Go ahead. My first big media obsession was Neopets. Oh, my God. But beyond just the website, because if you are about our age, then you will probably remember that it was the time of the internet where there was actually websites for children and there wasn't just social media.
00:16:15
Speaker
And Neopets was populated mostly by kids, a few teenagers, and 27-year-old stay-at-home moms, and no one else.
00:16:33
Speaker
But I got really into the character design aspect and the world building of it and didn't really give a shit about everything else. I just cared about the little guys and one of my first, actually my first period video game that I ever owned
00:16:52
Speaker
was Neopets the Darkest Fairy for PlayStation 2 that I still hold to this day as being a good game. It is just fantasy furries with—it's just Legend of Zelda with a furry skin on it. That's all it is.
00:17:07
Speaker
Um, but it's, I mean, it's still fun. I replayed it most recently when I was 19. I'm 24 now. So it would have been like freshman or sophomore year of college. Um, and I replay it every handful of years cause I don't want nostalgia to take root and just think that it's good out of nostalgia. I always want to remind myself that it's good, but Neopets as a whole, mostly that game, but I had a friend, um, when I was really little.
00:17:33
Speaker
We're still friends, but she lives in California now and she's super successful and I'm so fucking proud of her, but I just never get to talk to her. But when she still lived in Oklahoma, we would do sleepovers every other weekend and we both collected a bunch of the Neopet plushies and we would always go to the mall together. We'd drag one of our moms to take us up there and we'd go to Limited 2.
00:17:57
Speaker
which then became Justice. In the back of Limited 2, they had this little corner where they had imported Neopet stuff because it was a United Kingdom company. It wasn't a US company. They had to import everything. They would have one tower of plushies and a couple little knickknacks and things.
00:18:17
Speaker
So we would go whenever we could and buy all the ones that we really liked. On our sleepovers, whenever we would stay at her house, we'd stay in her guest room and we would both squeeze to the farthest edges of the mattress and pull the pillows apart and make this giant gap. We would strategically organize all of our plushies and little rows in between us and have this army of Neopets.
00:18:45
Speaker
They would just hang out with us for our sleepovers, and it is a very fond memory of mine, and I fucking love that. And I still have most of my Neopet plushies at my parents' house, so that was my first big piece of media. That was before Kingdom Hearts. I got that video game, I got Darkest Fairy and Kingdom Hearts 1 on the same day I got them for Christmas when I was a kid.
00:19:11
Speaker
Um, and those are the only two PS2 games I had for like two years, but I didn't play Kingdom Hearts yet because I was still really little. I was like five or six and Kingdom Hearts, the cover art was really dark and it scared me. So I didn't want to play it yet. And my brother was like, you idiot, Mickey Mouse is in this game. You'll like it. Damn, was he right? But yeah, that was mine.
00:19:41
Speaker
I get it. Um, but in the same vein, totally not related really. And, but in like online based browser games, did you ever play horse? No. It's just like Neopets, but for digital horses. I am scared of horses. Oh yeah, you are. That was weird. So weird. They scare me. I don't get it. Those things could kill me. They're horrifying.
00:20:11
Speaker
You see how fucking big their teeth are? No thank you. Yeah, I don't go near horses. Alright. I've never willingly been near a horse. That's why you're not scared of them. Yeah, horses are the dude. They're fucking terrifying. If you get up close and personal with one, they're horrifying. They're so tall. They smell bad. I don't like being around them. They're not that tall. They are as tall as you. Yeah, that's fine.
00:20:39
Speaker
I can tolerate that. Oh, my God. All right. Whatever. Next question. Next question. We're moving on. You're scared of a PNG of a horse. I'm going to shoot you. You're the one that's scared of a PNG horse. All right. To clear up all this bullshit, we're going to answer one of Lydia's questions, which is what are your favorite things about each other?

Hosts' Favorite Qualities About Each Other

00:21:04
Speaker
Oh, okay. We're talking shit on each other and now we're... No, you cannot show me a PNG of a horse. No, it's not. It's an image that makes me smile every time I see you. Okay, okay. I accidentally deleted a DM with someone because I clicked the wrong button. I hope that wasn't important. Good job. Where are you sending this?
00:21:23
Speaker
I hate you so much. That's not even a transparent png of a horse. It has the stupid checker background. I know. Are you fucking kidding me? I hate its muscles. Why does it look like that? Its fucking legs are not meant to exist. I hate them. I hate them. I knew everything about this image would make you sad. I sent a transparent horse that was not transparent. Fuck you. Love that chicken. One of the first things I ever learned how to draw was a horse.
00:21:54
Speaker
Yeah, is that where trauma came from? No, actually the trauma is legitimate because it was my abuser that forced me to be around horses. That's kind of a weird thing to force. Isn't it? It's very weird. I don't understand why that was an issue with him that I just didn't want to go up to this horse, but he took Enbridge with it and forced me to be around this horse and defeat this horse. It really waked me out because they're huge and scare me.
00:22:21
Speaker
I was already scared of them to begin with, but that just solidified it. When I was a kid, my grandmother taught me how to draw a horse by bending your thumb and then putting it on the paper and tracing around the knuckle and your thumb because it made similar to the shape of a horse. You could use that as a basis.
00:22:43
Speaker
Like a hand turkey, but slightly more sophisticated. Not by much, but slightly more. Damn. You're afraid of horses? I'm afraid of horses. Anyways, answer the fucking question. What's your favorite thing about me? How understanding you are and how easy it is to have a conversation with you. That's so gay of you. Shut up. So true, Bessie.
00:23:13
Speaker
What about me, bitch? My absolute favorite thing about you is that you're extremely authentic. And I know you don't think that about yourself, but you are truly the person that has taught me the most about just refusing to hide who you are.
00:23:35
Speaker
And I really value that and I think that you do that to every person that comes into your life You just are unabashedly you and I love that so much and you show other people that it's completely okay to be unabashedly them damn Some people though need to learn to not be themselves
00:23:56
Speaker
i mean you're not wrong i will teach you both i'm very i'm very uh well balanced authenticity with discretion yeah some of you guys love you to death but keep it to your shelf so keep it to your shelves put it on your ikea shelf yeah lydia also oh sorry sorry sorry little jon little jon came out of me
00:24:25
Speaker
Lydia also asks us, what are you grateful for these days? Breathing my hot boyfriend and little oranges. Woo! Wait, okay. Was there a comma between breathing and your hot boyfriend? Yes. Okay.
00:24:41
Speaker
Because it didn't sound... It was a little weird. I wasn't... Okay, we're done. Alright, cut the cameras.
00:24:56
Speaker
Yeah, go on. What am I grateful for these days? I'm grateful for the fact that we're moving soon. I can finally get out of this fucking small town in the middle of nowhere, Oklahoma. I am not originally from a small town. I'm from a small-ish town, comparative to the rest of the United States.
00:25:18
Speaker
It's way bigger than this and has more things. I don't know how else to describe it. There's four restaurants here. There's no stores hardly. If you want clothes, you have TJ Maxx, Ross, Walmart, and then a handful of extremely overpriced white people boutiques that only go up to size large, and a size large is maybe a 29-inch waist. Really, there's no option.
00:25:49
Speaker
So I just cannot wait to live near civilization again. And that's what I'm grateful for is that we actually found a place and we'll be moving in like a month, a month from today, actually. Let's fucking go. Yeah. And also Gavin just got his PTO done for Akon. So now we are fully, fully confirmed and going to be booking our tickets soon to come see Nub. So that's something I'm grateful for.
00:26:14
Speaker
Just gotta buy Whoops registration and we'll be good. I need to buy my registration too, but it's okay. I got time. All right. Do you want to pick our next question? Yes. Out of our patrons. While I go through it. Yeah. I'm trying to dial down who is a patron who isn't.

Non-Binary & Trans Representation in Anime

00:26:32
Speaker
Songbird Thea. Yes. Dave.
00:26:37
Speaker
Um, I know, I'm gonna think I'm gonna go and pick, um, I'm gonna pick Theas. And do you think there will be a time in anime where being non-binary or trans isn't a joke or isn't too ingrained? Do you think there will be a time in anime? I mean, we're kind of approaching that time. Um,
00:27:00
Speaker
I know we've talked about Auron a lot and Auron goes back and forth with that concept, but Haruhi being non-binary is never treated as a joke. It's more of just something that the boys don't fully understand, but being
00:27:18
Speaker
trans, I believe there's a one piece character that's trans, right? Yeah, Yamato is. And it's not a joke. It's not seen as anything. It's not even really stated. It's just the fact that they appear as a woman, but they believe they are a man, like outright. Yeah. So it's not seen. It's not addressed as like outright. They're a trans person. It doesn't need be stigmatized or even said because it's like it's their identity. You know, I would like for it to be
00:27:47
Speaker
spelled out just so there's more of like blatant obvious representation of a positive trans character in anime or of a positive non-binary character in anime just because then like shitty shitty anime fans can't point to it and be like well they never actually say that this character is trans so I'm still gonna refer to them as she pronouns and stuff like that.
00:28:10
Speaker
But I'm at least pleased with the way that the One Piece character is handled so far from what I've heard. And I think that these are like the beginnings of that. We're also seeing a pretty big influx in more masculine female characters and more like androgynous characters as well, even though they do have some either explicit mention of their assigned gender at birth.
00:28:40
Speaker
they have very specific presentations that are being treated less as a joke. Like, Fruits Basket is a really good example of this. One of the main characters, well, not main characters, but one of the main members of the Selma family is Afab, but presents male, and I will not say whom they are for spoiler reasons, but they play a pretty big part in the later seasons of the show,
00:29:09
Speaker
And only then is it discussed like why they present the way that they do. And it's not a joke. It's more of a personal choice and trauma response, but not in like a you broke me shitty way. Like a lot of people want to think that gender nonconforming identities are, that it's seen more as this is who they were always meant to be, but they were not given the option to do that because they were born AFAB.
00:29:38
Speaker
And I think in like that one was written in like the 90s like first basket was written in the 90s or on was written in like the early early aughts and one piece has been going since the 90s so I feel like it's a lot of older creators that are seeing.
00:29:59
Speaker
the way that we're moving in media and the way we're moving as a society to what we're accepting and that we're slowly getting there. And there will always be really horrible creators and really horrible writers that will write in these bullshit awful jokes.
00:30:14
Speaker
But it's a reflection of them more so than it will ever be a reflection of the community. And I never want my trans friends or my non-binary friends, or even myself, thinking about my younger self, figuring out that I was non-binary and looking at these characters to think of them as anything but their authentic selves. So I'm hoping that this is more evidence that we're moving towards that direction. But I can't say for sure.
00:30:43
Speaker
if there will ever be a time where it's never a joke, at least in serious media. What do you think? No, everything you said is pretty much right. We're getting to a point where it's better. It's hard to do that with our current political environment where most media that does these things is either being shitlisted for it or
00:31:04
Speaker
If we ask where that is, we're being shut down by other people who don't understand the necessity for it. And so that's really awkward and really shitty, but we're trying to get by with what we can. And I think that it's really good. We're getting steps forward that we don't need to outright say a character is trans or make a deal out of it for it to be a thing.
00:31:23
Speaker
Or, honestly, I'm just glad we're getting more gender nonconforming characters to begin with, whether or not they are trans or non-binary. Just having that be pushed a little bit, being able to see women be strong and not having to be so feminine to be seen as women still, or be sought after by fans, whatever.
00:31:41
Speaker
It's really nice to finally see and so I'm relieved by it. I hope that we keep getting pushes for it. We are really with most of our major animes kind of giving us that. But there is so much room to improve and especially in like the gaming area of things. Fuck that. I wish games would do better about it because
00:31:58
Speaker
the gamer mindset is so against allowing for these types of representation because it doesn't fit the standard gamer, uh, gamer in quotation marks, um, point of view. And it's fucking stupid. Get over it. Yeah. This is an RPG. If you want to be a dude and not use the non-binary they them pronoun option, get the fuck over it. Yeah. It's, it's your character, bro. It's a subway sandwich. You picked the sandwich.
00:32:28
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It's also like the people that hold such bigoted opinions, especially anime fans, because in particular with Thea's question she referred to specifically as anime, that like
00:32:40
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The kinds of people that want to make it a big deal to turn queer and trans and non-binary characters into jokes are also the kind of people that are like outing themselves on Twitter and other online spaces as complete and utter bigots. There's a TikTok floating around that I just really get a kick out of that it's a guy that's mocking this tweet of someone with an anime girl icon.
00:33:05
Speaker
referring to black anime fans and black anime voice actors as night skins?
00:33:12
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with the intent of that to be a slur, even though that's not an existing slur. Every black person I've seen react to that tweet has said, this is sick as fuck, it's ours. I'm like, this is ours. This is not a slur. It is sick. Too cool to be a slur. Sounds like a fucking D&D class. But it's like, that's how stupid they're sounding. And I think that with the amount of visibility that we have on just every aspect of our lives and our
00:33:41
Speaker
are hobbies and stuff now, I think that this mindset will fade faster than it has in the past because it's no longer just dealing with the people around you or the people in your town straight up calling you a faggot or whatever to your face and you have no one else around you that can offer support. It's very obvious that they're the ones on the failing side of history in the grand scheme of things.
00:34:09
Speaker
Yeah. That's a damn. Thanks, Thea. I like that question. Good question. Good question. Good question. Pick a nice question, Neb. Songbird asks, you can only eat one food for the rest of your lives.

Single Food for Life Q&A

00:34:21
Speaker
What y'all picking? Pepperoni. Just... Just pepperoni. Nothing. Nothing else. Just pepperoni. Do you... Okay. I don't know how to respond to this.
00:34:37
Speaker
Gavin doesn't listen to this podcast, so what's gonna happen? He's almost gonna stop me. Imma get Gavin again. Pepperoni. A little slummy. I just need a little slummy. Whatever works. I got a meme for this occasion. Oh, do we have a meme for it? What is this meme?
00:35:01
Speaker
Cats can have little slummy. S-L-O-M-M-Y, slummy. I just say a little slummy. Oh my god. That's all I can say. What about you, Nothin? I'm going to apologize to both you and Songbird for my answer because my answer is soup. It's a cop-out because anything can be soup. Pussy.
00:35:28
Speaker
But the thing is, I like too many soups. Bowl of cereal soup. It could be if you want, if you believe in your heart of hearts that a bowl of cereal is soup, then guess what, bitch? It is grain and dairy soup, and there is nothing else. Some days, I'd live my life, though. If I could never eat oatmeal again, I'd be fine. I hate oatmeal. I hate it so much. Sometimes, if it's a dinosaur egg oatmeal, that shit's slap. But if I could go every day of my life, no, actually, let me rephrase.
00:35:56
Speaker
I'm so sick of overnight oats. I'm so sick of overnight oats. Those shits are disgusting. They are soggy. They're never good. I don't care if you bake them. Disgusting. I'm fucking so sick of the overnight oat trend. I want it to die. I want it to rot in hell. Damn. That's my firm stance. My firm stance is soup. Soap.
00:36:20
Speaker
Most specifically, probably ramen, but I like a bunch of other soups too. Chicken and dumplings. My mom makes amazing chicken and dumplings from scratch. It's all home style. She fucking takes a whole ass bird and cooks it in this giant pot. It's like a foot and a half tall and she slowly works on it all day. It's amazing.
00:36:49
Speaker
Oh, all right, maybe my answer would be chicken and dumplings. Damn. All right, your turn, baby. Next question. We got through all of the Patreon ones, right? Yeah. Okay, they've asked us, what is one question you want to be asked but never get asked?

Hidden Talents & Personal Anecdotes

00:37:12
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What is one question we want to be asked but never get asked? Can you do a kickflip? Yes.
00:37:19
Speaker
I cannot do a kickflip, that's impressive. Can you do other tricks? I can do an ollie and a kickflip and that's it.
00:37:30
Speaker
Damn. I cannot even maintain my balance on a skateboard. Yeah, I had to learn how to skateboard really young because that's how I got to school. But although I can do tricks, if I see a little rock in the road, I'm falling over. I look like amateur if there's a little rock. Oh my God.
00:37:51
Speaker
That's like in college, it was the thing to ride a longboard everywhere because they can handle gravel and stuff. Um, and like everybody that I knew, especially with the engineering guys all had a longboard and I took a astronomy class and the back wall of the lecture hall was just lined with longboards in every class. Yeah, I get it. Longboards suck.
00:38:19
Speaker
question that you want to be asked but never get asked? Probably if you have any hidden talents because I am a singer and I never get a chance to talk about it or mention it. I'm not classically trained or anything, but singing is a big part of my whole family. Singing is the thing you're thinking about, not being able to shoot a bow and arrow with your fucking feet. I can't do it well.
00:38:43
Speaker
You can still do it. That's impressive. I can't. I brag about you being able to do that more than you brag about you being able to do it. Because I haven't done it in years, so I don't even know if I can still do it. So, so, it doesn't matter. You did it before, so what can I do? I'll, I'll practice. I still have my old boat at my parents' house. I'll try it sometime.
00:39:05
Speaker
It's with my feet and one hand. I can't only do it with my feet. I don't care. You can still do it as sick as fuck. I'm not like those ladies that can like balance on their hands and like bend their whole ass legs around and like draw the bow with their toes. I can't do that part but I can do the rest. I can do the bending.
00:39:25
Speaker
Okay, well then you're way more ahead than I am when it comes to shooting a bow and arrow with your feet. I'm sure you could do it. Yeah, probably if I really try. If you really try, you absolutely could. I really hurt my toes without holding that. Yeah, probably. What's the other hidden talents? I sing. I can do a couple weird voices, like not like impressions, but just like
00:39:50
Speaker
various character voices, not like existing character, but like if you give me like a personality, I can like kind of do a character-ish voice for that. I used to be able to play the violin really well. I haven't practiced in years. Last time I played was like 18 months ago, but I used to be really good at it. Damn. Yeah. I'm also a decent graphite artist. I don't work in traditional stuff anymore, but graphite used to be
00:40:20
Speaker
Like my main thing, like graphite and ink and marker. But I have a picture of one of my old graphite pieces that I'll show you that I don't know if I've ever showed you. This is one of my finals when I was in art school in college. Where are my pictures? Damn. Audio medium, by the way. I'm going to throw it in our Instagram so you'll be able to see it.
00:40:46
Speaker
And you'll be able to bask in the glory of my artwork. Here you go. That's the enter key, not the shift key. Damn, you're so talented. Damn, damn, damn. You're gonna forget to put that in the episode. Nah, I will not. I will not forget. I will remember. And if I forget, you can tag me on Twitter and just put slummy.
00:41:12
Speaker
And I'll remember. Yeah, you need to put a little slummy on the post, too. Slummy. Both of those images need to make it on our post for this episode. I got you. I got you. Next question, Nebula. Read it to me. Hey, I actually forgot to say two other questions of Lydia's, so we're going back to Lydia. Oh my god. What color palette do you think represents you?
00:41:35
Speaker
Any soft forest green. Forest greens, light peachy oranges, and soft pinks.

Color Palettes & Personal Aesthetics

00:41:42
Speaker
Not like soft pinks, like I mean more of like the, not pastel, but more of like that rose gold kind of pink.
00:41:50
Speaker
Like a dusty rose? Yes. I think those colors best represent me in terms of my emotions, but if I'm talking about my color palettes that I wear, I wear black and gray. That kind of rose gold, dusty rose color was my mom's wedding color. Those were going to be my wedding colors. Damn. You can still use them. I'm going to. It's my color. The color palette represents me.
00:42:17
Speaker
I had you ask me this question when I was much younger, I would say, and I know the like specific colors would be black.
00:42:28
Speaker
hot pink and teal and yes before you ask that is the color palette to Hatsune Miku. I was very into it when I was younger, but now, I don't know, probably like neon pinks and blues, like that bisexual lighting type color and black, those are like
00:42:52
Speaker
Those are those are colors that I vibe with and have like a strong aesthetic with as far as colors that I actually enjoy for like any kind of interior design or whatever is mustard gold and like a deep forest green like an army green and burgundy. I like those colors a lot.
00:43:14
Speaker
I like burgundy a lot. I like to wear burgundy a lot. Burgundy was the color in my house growing up. We had burgundy satin curtains. They were fake satin, but they were the cheap satiny fabric in our bathroom, not on a bathroom window, but in front of the shower. Do you remember that 90s trend, to have fucking curtains in front of your shower? Yes. I thought it was really poor because I didn't burn.
00:43:42
Speaker
Honestly, it was a cheap thing to have it because it was the cheap solution to look like you had money. But everything was burgundy in my house growing up and still kind of is in my parents' house. They've improved their taste a little bit, but it is still mostly wine red everywhere. Damn. Damn. I'll try a big yawn in the middle of that. Damn.
00:44:12
Speaker
All right. Well, get all the oxygen you need for this one because we're going to clear out Lydia's last question, which is what's your favorite Homestuck character? I don't know. I will. I will can assign you one right now. Don't. But I think if I think I think hold on, I think I know one who I like the aesthetic of. Yeah. Yeah. Double check her name. I'm going to can assign you one. Wait, guess who I'm thinking.
00:44:42
Speaker
Are you thinking Kanaya? The one with the chainsaw? No. She's the lesbian with the chainsaw. No, I was thinking of Jade. Oh, see, I'm kin assigning you Jade. Jade was the one that I attended this. Look at her. Look at her. She's so cute. She's a little wolf girl with the power of the space. You can't kin assign me that because, oh, just kidding. People ship her with Dave. Nevermind.
00:45:09
Speaker
Oh yeah? Yeah, because Gavin's Homestuck Kin is Dave. Yeah, there you go. Yep, exactly. I didn't even know that, but on some level I did know that. I told you, no, I told you he cosplayed Homestuck and he cosplayed Dave. You told me he cosplayed Homestuck, I don't remember. It was Dave specifically. He didn't cosplay any trolls. That's why when I say he does Sharpie Baths, it doesn't fit.
00:45:31
Speaker
I cosplayed Riska and John. I handmade John's little hood cape thing. The blue one that's giant and flowy. I want to find where that is. It's got to be somewhere at my parents' house.
00:45:47
Speaker
Um, but those are, those are the two that I cosplayed, but, uh, Vriska was my favorite character when I was reading it, when I was younger. My favorite character design, however, is, um, I got to figure out what her name is. I think it's Purim. I don't like that. I looked this up. I set myself up for failure.
00:46:17
Speaker
I'm not going to read Homestuck. Her name's Porim, that's who she is. Okay, this is my favorite character design because she's pretty cute. Oh, you showed me her in the Homestuck episode.
00:46:35
Speaker
Yeah, Purim. She's got like long hair and this like long dress and tattoos all over her body. And I dig her. She's got little fangs. She's cute as hell. I'm not going to read Homestuck. That's fine. But maybe. Maybe I cosplay it. Maybe. I think you should. I think it's super fun. And she's actually like Purim too. She's one of Kaniya's relatives. I don't remember if it's her ancestor or not, but
00:47:05
Speaker
She's in that family, the Miriam family. But yeah, she fucking just look at her, look at her with her green eyes and I like her. Anyways, those are my favorites. Understandable, understandable. Damn. Right. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
00:47:35
Speaker
Jett asks, where's my Pokemon Smasher Pass video? Fuck off. You'll get it when you get it. You get it when you get it. Do you want to pick our next beautiful question, my beloved wife, my partner in cringe? Yes. Who is the best Kingdom Hearts character and why is Goofy.
00:48:02
Speaker
Is it because he dies? Yeah. Bullshit answer, all of them die. Is that your actual answer or do you have...
00:48:17
Speaker
Do you have a horse in this race? No, I do, but my favorite character is someone everybody hates. Demyx is my favorite. I used to love Demyx. He was one of my favorites. He's really annoying though. His fight's so annoying. He doesn't shut the fuck up. He is canonically one of the strongest and Xehanort chooses him to be a part of his select inner circle.
00:48:43
Speaker
Yeah, I know. He's sexy. Like, he's fucking badass. He's a little dipshit, but I love him. He's my favorite dipshit. He's so good. I love his silly little mullet. Damn. You should cosplay Demyx and all cosplay Axel. I was going to. And we could be like opposite heights. I was going to cosplay him years and years and years and years and years ago. That'd be so fun if he did that. Hmm. Like now, like in the year 2022. The selling would be easy as fuck.
00:49:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And there's official patterns for the outfit. Yeah. The hardest part would just be like 3D printing the beads for the dangles. I would just make them out of something else. Honestly, I just get beads and paint them. Well, they're like specific shapes. I have the photo of him pulled up. Yeah, you got it. You got it. You're gazing lovingly at him. Yes. I'm just saying I can make it work. Who is the best Kingdom Hearts character? Well, my favorite is Axel.
00:49:43
Speaker
My favorites are Axel and Vanitas. I refuse to say Vanitas because that is not how you say his name in Latin because his name is a Latin word. His name is the Latin word for nothing, but I love both of them because I love my edgy boys. Who's the best Kingdom Hearts character? I would argue that, like,
00:50:09
Speaker
I think Axel's one of the best ones because he has a really strong redemption arc. Axel slash Lee because he regains his somebody and becomes a person again in Kingdom Hearts 3, which I'm not going to say is a spoiler anymore because it's been out for three years. He has the strongest bond with Roxas and Sheon.
00:50:35
Speaker
really mirrors the energy that Riku has for the original trio, but he does it in a little bit more of a passionate way, I think, and a little less reserved.
00:50:48
Speaker
Pardon me, I sneezed. I think that that brings a specific kind of energy to the games and to the trios as a whole. The sea salt trio has always been the ones that I vibe with more because they're edgier and sad and that's what I was when I was a kid. I like the tragedy
00:51:13
Speaker
Within them and how it gets resolved in like Kingdom Hearts 3 and how they're all stronger and like love each other more for it. Mm-hmm But I say Axel Not just cuz he's sexy Also, his death scene is like the fucking saddest his death scene in Kingdom Hearts 2 I sobbed. Oh my god. Oh
00:51:35
Speaker
Yeah, I get you. I understand. I fathom it. I anticipated the answer from you, so it's not a shock. And Vanitas is good because nobody else gets fucking yeeted around by Sully in Kingdom Hearts 3. Sully picks him up and throws him through a door. I love you. I love you, Vanitas. Short, short king. Short, sad king. Jesus.
00:52:05
Speaker
All right.

Anticipation for Upcoming Shows & Games

00:52:06
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Shelby asks, are you excited for any shows or games coming up soonish? No, I'm excited for One Piece Red. Everything else is letting me down. Oh, oops. Whoops. It's not that like I'm disappointed. It's just like everything that's been going fine because Spider-Verse 2 just got delayed eight months today.
00:52:31
Speaker
Everything I've been looking forward to is getting pushed back or canceled. So it's like, I don't know. It's hard to be excited anymore. I don't want to get myself too excited for anything. Cause it's like, I don't want to be let down. Yeah, I get that. I think it's still fair to be like excited about things even though they're delayed. Like I'm still really excited for Breath of the Wild 2, even though we don't have a lot of info on it. But I know it'll come out. It got delayed until 2023.
00:53:00
Speaker
Yeah, that sucks. But I mean, I'm a Kingdom Hearts fan. Dude, I waited almost 10 years for Kingdom Hearts 3. I'm used to it. I'm used to shit getting pushed back. I know it'll come out eventually, so I'm fine. I just want to be excited, but I can't. I don't want to be heartbroken. I'm excited for the new Thor movie. That looks interesting. Oh, yeah, that one looks sexy. I'm really thrilled for that. Never mind.
00:53:27
Speaker
I'm kind of excited for the new Doctor Strange movie, but... I'm actually excited for that one, and I'm usually not for Marvel movies, but this one, it's parallels between Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch look really interesting. Yeah. Well, that part is sick, but it's also a Marvel movie, so if I don't see it opening night, the whole movie is going to be a spoiler for me.
00:53:51
Speaker
It's like, hey guys, it's like how Endgame happened and they made the memes of everyone, or not Endgame Infinity War happened, and they made the memes of everyone getting dusted within 24 hours. It's like, you guys are assholes.
00:54:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's wild. So I'm anticipating this movie getting spoiled for me, so it's hard to be excited about it. But I do want to go see it. So just just go see it on opening weekend. If you can't just like stay off Twitter for 24 hours, which I know will kill you. Well, I have to stop going on that weekend already. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Whoops.
00:54:26
Speaker
I just have to grin and bear it. Rip perks. I don't know. I didn't get spoiled for Sonic, so that's cool. That's true. I only got spoiled for Sonic because Whoop came home and told me with no warning what the after credit scene was. I was like, are you fucking kidding me?
00:54:45
Speaker
before, you guys have to go see it together, right? Yeah, he hadn't even seen it yet. He got spoiled from something else. So why did he share? I don't know, but he just came in and was like, this is the after credit scene. I thought you'd be excited. I was like, well, yeah, but I wanted to see that myself, dude.
00:55:05
Speaker
I'm excited for the new Thor movie. I'm excited for Breath of the Wild 2. I'm excited for Spider-Verse 2. Excited to see what they do with the new Doctor Strange movie. I'm also excited to see how Moon Knight wraps up.
00:55:21
Speaker
because we're on episode four. Episode four came out last night at the time of recording this. And so we have two more, two more weeks and then it'll be done. And I am really invested in it so far. I haven't seen episode four yet, but I'm excited to see where the show goes because the mid-season finale was great.
00:55:40
Speaker
Yeah. I'm excited for that one. I haven't started it yet because I've been waiting so I can watch it all in one go. Normally, I don't do that, but I've been really burnt out of watching shows, so it's been easier to just binge them all. I don't know. Honestly, there's four episodes out right now and they're all an hour long, so it might be worth it to go ahead and start it this week or next week because then you'll get the suspense of just the last episode or the last two.
00:56:10
Speaker
That way you don't have to wait. We started at week one, so we've been in suspense every single week. But if you start it now, I think you'd be fine. Yeah, I can do that.
00:56:20
Speaker
Okay, next question. Shelby also asks, can assign each other a D&D race and class? We've done this before and I have to go and look at what I pinned you as because we've done this before. Oh, that's right. We did this with our whole friend group. I labeled you as a tiefling ranger. Which is almost exactly what I play. I play a tiefling rogue usually. Yeah, I thought you were a ranger because of your funny ha ha bow knowledge.
00:56:46
Speaker
That's really it. It was funny to me. I also cuz I'm a rogue so it's like Our variation of our party Hold on. I am gonna search in our end in the server. It's pinned in our Group chat. Yeah Cuz we assigned you me Gavin Ryan and Ray. That's right. I
00:57:11
Speaker
Yeah, you assigned me Tiefling Ranger. What did I assign you guys? If you click on that message, it should take you to that one. Let's see. I have to scroll. What the fuck? Where is my pose? It's there. It's in the group chat. I'm blind.
00:57:35
Speaker
I gave a whole list, but I can't find it because I'm stupid. Scrolls up, scrolls up, scrolls up, scrolls up, scrolls up. Everyone else said I was a shifter rogue. Everyone else saw a message for me that just says, bitch, I am American. What the fuck was that concept? Do not speak centimeters to me. Damn, I'm funny. Yeah, true.
00:58:02
Speaker
Um, I cannot actually find it. You said I was like a wood elf rogue, but then I said cat girl and you're like, actually, yeah, it makes sense. Cat girl. That's what the conversation was like right now. Oh, wood elf rogue. Okay. Yeah. I didn't put them all in one message, like a dumb ass. Yeah. But then I said, I'm not so much like a wood elf and you agreed for a minute. Yeah. I think Tabaxi would fit you. Yeah, but also why would I be a Tabaxi when I can be half?
00:58:31
Speaker
and be a cat girl with cat girl titties. I'm just kidding. I'm not kidding. My cat girl titties are so important to my personality. Honestly, I'm so happy for you that you have found this integral part of who you are as a person and as a fictional Dungeons and Dragons character. Thank you.
00:58:52
Speaker
I knew you'd understand. Next question. Damn. I think we only have one more. No, we have one from Digby. Yeah, I think that's the last one. Is it? Oh, shit. For some reason in my brain, I'm forgetting. We saved Digby's for our very last one, which is what is the comic or manga that got you into reading them?

Influential Comics & Mangas

00:59:22
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Do you want to go first? Hold on, wait. Let me check one more thing. Oh. Because I think someone responded to my story. Oh. No, I just said the D's. Never mind. I'm sorry. Damn, that sucks balls.
00:59:42
Speaker
The comic that I grew up reading comics because my dad had comics so I read all of the spider-man's first I really liked the amazing spider-man runs I don't remember the exact ones I read when I was a kid but I started reading the Legend of Zelda manga's graphic novels and Actually my favorite one. I believe it was called sleepy shit Let me look it up real fast, but it was a
01:00:08
Speaker
graphic novel that got me into it. I read all the Kingdom Hearts ones. I actually was reading since I was a really, really good reader growing up. When I finished the Junie B. Jones books, the whole set, my mom went and bought me the My Neighbor Totoro graphic novel rendition. And so I read that and I was technically my first like manga to myself outside of my dad's comics.
01:00:32
Speaker
Shit. Hold on. Yeah. Let me find this answer. Nebula, you answer. My first graphic novel was Mouse, which if you're unfamiliar with it is a graphic novel about... It's a memoir that a son of a Holocaust survivor writes through the eyes of his father. It's all stories of his father surviving the Holocaust.
01:01:00
Speaker
and it's written where the persecuted individuals, mainly the Jewish people, but the persecuted individuals within the Holocaust are depicted as mice and the Nazis are depicted as cats.
01:01:12
Speaker
And it's a really, really powerful book. I read that when I was pretty young and it still resonated with me and has stuck with me my whole life. And it's a medium that I very, very highly respect. I recently got to buy the first volume for myself and it's the first time that I've ever actually seen it in physical print since I was a kid because I just didn't know that it was like liked or popular at all.
01:01:40
Speaker
I read it out of my library when I was in elementary school and was surprised even then that they had something like that available for us because I was probably in fourth or fifth grade when I read it. So now I'm very happy that I own it. But my first like manga that I read was a plus anima, like a plus sign and then the word anima and it was
01:02:03
Speaker
Basically like anime or like manga anime style maximum ride Where like if you took maximum ride and Animorphs and like mastered into a manga. That's what plus anima is Let me show you a picture because they're like they're these characters that can turn into some animal parts
01:02:30
Speaker
Not all of them, but some of them. So, like, some of them have wings, some of them have tails, some of them have, like, claws, shit like that. But I loved this shit as a kid. And I don't even know if I read, like, more than a couple volumes because they were so sporadic and I always got them at our book fairs, but it was a Tokyo publication.
01:02:54
Speaker
So I'm sure you can still find it because Tokyo pops fucking everywhere. But that was that was like my first one that I remember buying with my own money and then the Kingdom Hearts mongos after that. I figured out which graphic novel was technically my first one and it was called Hollow Fields.
01:03:12
Speaker
And it was sort of fucked up, but also like towing the line of not being fucked up because it's about like an elementary school students. And if you're not doing well, you get taken away to detention. Fucking crazy weird. The doll on the front cover was honestly at the selling point. I thought it was so fucking weird and sick that I wanted to read it. And I did. And now I don't remember any of the plot besides like doll. I read them when I was in third grade at the library because I used to hang out at the library all the time.
01:03:42
Speaker
um yeah this was sick it was a pretty good series and it was kind of fucked up and like really cool all the designs were way cool like this was one of the main nurse ladies like the doll nurse really this whole thing was sick whoa that art style is so cool yeah it's like very reminiscent of um do you remember zach bell
01:04:04
Speaker
I know the name, but I never watched it or read it. Okay, it's really old classic kind of, I don't know, I want to say early shonen kid animes. Yeah, it's in the same vein as Yu-Gi-Oh! and Case Closed, right? Yeah, yeah.
01:04:22
Speaker
Um, this one was like an international award winner for mangas. So damn, it was, it's very highly rated. Here's another look at the cover, but I don't remember a single damn thing about the plot. I just remember how cool the art was. And it comes to me like every few years. I remember it. I forget to read it. There was another one. It's like what promised land Neverland wanted to be, to be honest. Oh, I totally. Yep. I get that.
01:04:49
Speaker
There was another manga that I read that I cannot remember the name of at the moment. It was like sort of Alice in Wonderland themed. It was not Alice in the Country of Hearts because I have that one and I do like that one. But it was like...
01:05:11
Speaker
This girl had the ability to time travel, but she was named Alice, I'm pretty sure, and had that similar aesthetic to Alice in Wonderland. I cannot remember the name of it. I think I know what you're talking about though. It was another one I got at a book fair as a kid. No, I think I know what you're talking about though.
01:05:32
Speaker
But I really, really, is it called I am Alice? Is that what it is? I don't think so. Because it had like a timepiece, like a pocket watch on the cover. Like pocket watches were important to the- Let me scroll. I have a list of all the ones that involve time travel. Let me scroll.
01:05:54
Speaker
It was like, because I remember that she was taking a test in like the first volume and she like uses her time ability to rewind it so she can do better on the test. It's been so long since I read it. Oh my God. I will cut out all this just so we can find the answer to it. Okay, okay, okay, I got you. Is it Gock and Alice? Can you show me a picture?
01:06:25
Speaker
Or how do you spell it? Gaku and Alice? Yeah, sorry. I got distracted by it. No, it's not. Damn. Okay. Let's see. Alice and Zoroku? No, it's a child. It's a child. I just saw the cover. She's like a teenager.
01:06:54
Speaker
Get out of here. I don't want to disable my ad blog. All right. God damn, this is going to drive me to Alice the 19th. Alice the 19th or Alice 19th.
01:07:24
Speaker
Alice 19th. No, it's more modern looking. Like think like 2000. Think like 2007. Solitaire lady. Solitaire lady. I don't think so. Solitaire lady manga. No. Oh, she's cool though. Whoa. Oh, also another was a really good one I read really young.
01:07:53
Speaker
Another manga bangs. Isn't that like a freaky anime? Yeah, it's an anime where everyone dies. Oh, okay, cool. Glad you got that as a child. Yeah, it's sick. I watched the anime first and then I did that, but it's sick. I like it. I don't know why I can't find it. Is it Pandora Hearts? It's not Pandora Hearts. I love Pandora Hearts, but it's not Pandora Hearts. It was similar to it.
01:08:19
Speaker
Because I know Alice is the name of the Pandora hearts.
01:08:25
Speaker
Oh, this is going to drive me up a fucking wall. I'm going to find it eventually and I'm going to comment on our fucking top 10 must read manga if you love Pandora Hearts. Oh, it's not Bunko Stray Dogs. No, it's not Bunko Stray Dogs. It's not Inspector. It's not Angels of Death. No. It's not Dusk Maid of Amnesia. Is it Noragami? It's not Noragami. Uh, nope. Losing my mind.
01:08:55
Speaker
but Alice in the Country of Hearts is not the one you're thinking of. It's not the one I'm thinking of. That is one I like, but it's not the one I'm thinking of. Are you Alice?
01:09:04
Speaker
I don't think it's, are you Alice? God damn, I'm gonna like go home to my parents' house. I bet her name's not Alice and you're insane. No, it is. Or at least she looks like her, like she's blonde and has the blue dress, but she has this like pocket watch and she like gains the ability to turn back time. And I fucking just, I'm gonna lose my mind. If any of you that are listening to this know what I'm talking about.
01:09:34
Speaker
Please fucking DM me on Twitter or Instagram. No, that's a man. No, it's not erased. Is it from Card Cap Sakura specifically? No, that happens in there. And there's not an anime for it, I believe. Which just makes it worse.
01:10:05
Speaker
Fuck. God damn. Well, I give up. I don't think it's real. It is real. I have it at my parents' house somewhere. Call your mom. No, she's not home. Maybe she is. Maybe she just got home. Mom, help. It's going to be like in a bag in one of our closets. I'm not going to make her sift through it. No, you need to. No, I'm not going to. I am dissatisfied.
01:10:35
Speaker
Oh my god. I'll find it eventually or I'll like remember it at three o'clock in the morning and deal you. Nope, I'm looking. Is it Ellen of the night? Ellen of the night? Ellen of the night. Ellen of... Hold on. The night. How do you spell that? With an E. E-L-E-N-A. Oh, it's the return of Ellen of the night. My bad.
01:11:03
Speaker
No, but that looks cool. Jesus fucking Christ. I know, it st- I'm gonna scream blood. Not bloody murder, just blood. No, blood is gonna come out my mouth and I'm gonna scream. No! Go to a high school library, I don't know. I'm gonna have to just to find this, but- Dude, this shit's not real. It is, I swear to God. It is real. Ain't no way.
01:11:32
Speaker
It is, I promise. I refuse at this point. Because it was so cool. I remember wanting there to be more, but there was only like one or two volumes. That means I'm never going to find it. I know. It was very obscure. I don't even know how I got through to my fucking scholastic book fair. I'll find it one of these days and I'll let you know. It was cool. I'll even buy you a copy if I can find it. I'm going to punch myself in the head. No, no.
01:12:02
Speaker
Damn, okay, I'll cut out all of our frantic searching. Hold on, I just went and looked up Alice on the manga search, the big, big manga search. Oh? Let me see if I can find anything about it. It's not Alice the 19th. Is it Traveling Girl? No. What is maybe? Hold on. It's not. No, it's not that one. This sucks. You have emotionally burdened me. I'm so sorry.
01:12:31
Speaker
I can almost picture the cover in my head. I remember the colors, because I used to draw it all the time, and I remember that there was just a focus on this timepiece, this pocket watch, and she was blonde, and I'm pretty sure her name was Alice, because I was obsessed with Alice in Wonderland as a kid, so I wanted everything that was even remotely inspired by it. I'm going to beat you over the head. No.
01:13:01
Speaker
Ain't no fucking way, bro. Oh my god. This shit's made up. I'm looking it up. And nothing is coming. It's not. It's not made up. I promise you. Is it Time Stranger Kyoko? Time Stranger Kyoko. That sounds familiar.
01:13:22
Speaker
No, it's not her. It's not that one. I'm gonna fucking kill you. I'm so sorry. I'm gonna fucking kill you. Call your mom. I don't want to deal with you anymore. Call your mom. I can't. She's not gonna know where it is. I'm not gonna make her go through that. Ain't no fucking way, dude. I'm like halfway considering it though. Ain't no fucking way. Is it called Angel Time? Angel Time? Hold on. Yeah, I'll kill you.
01:13:51
Speaker
I'm gonna kill you. No, it's not angel time. I'm gonna be sick. I'm sick. I'm sick to my stomach right now. This isn't funny, and you keep laughing, and it's not funny. I'm so nervous. Fuck! Okay, hold on. Hold on, I'm actually gonna call my mom.
01:14:15
Speaker
Anyways, we'll start wrapping up. Fuck yeah, let's wrap up. Let's go. This was kind of a short episode for non patrons.
01:14:22
Speaker
I think it was fun though. I liked answering questions, more low energy, but I enjoyed it. It was a nice way to just like hang out with you and connect with our listeners a little more because I always want to hear what you guys think and want to know what you guys want to hear us talk about. So if you guys have like topics, you don't have to wait until we do a call for Q and A stuff. You can always shoot us an email at fandamespod at gmail.com.
01:14:47
Speaker
or DM us on our social medias at Fandame's Pod on Instagram and Twitter. If you guys have any recommendations, ideas, comments, concerns, smash or pass suggestions, whatever you want, just throw them in there. We'll get to them. Feed us. We have stuff to talk about.
01:15:04
Speaker
I don't know. Anyways, if you wanted to hear Nebula call her mom to figure out what we're talking about, join our patron. You can join that at patreon.com slash fandamespod. If you do that and you become a Super Saiyan, you can get some stickers. We're sending out backlog.
01:15:25
Speaker
I don't know. You'll get this package when you get it. I'm sorry. But within the next few months, we'll be back on our sticker club once we get our stickers designed, once we get out of this rep preparing for yamacon, blah, blah, blah.
01:15:38
Speaker
Yeah, that shit will be there. If you wanna do that though, and you come Super Saiyan, I'll say your name on the podcast. So this most Super Saiyans, we got Oak, we got Ryan, we got Ryan, we got Ray. They're our number four homies, helping us out, getting us there, doing their thing, you know? I don't know. If you join our Patreon though, you also get sick hidden channels in our Discord server, and you should join our Discord server if you're not there already. We're pretty cool. Yeah, he'll be, yeah. Come hang out with us.
01:16:07
Speaker
Yeah. Nebula, where can we find you as an individual? You can find me as an individual around the corner from the local 7-Eleven. Oh, shit. Never mind. You bet. I thought you were... Sorry, sorry, sorry. I was ready. I was ready to say, like, where are you, but you were already on it. My bad, my bad, my bad. I thought you were going to plug your Twitter and whatever. But if you want to follow me on social media, you can find me on Instagram and Twitter at Nebula underscore inky. That's I-N-K-Y.
01:16:34
Speaker
Parks, where can they find you? You can find me on 20 different platforms. On Instagram, I am crownguardcosplay. On Twitter, I am littlelightb. On Patreon, I am crownguardcosplay. I don't know. What about your Twitch? What about plug that Twitch, baby? I'm lady crownguard on Twitch. Hell yeah. That's it. That's all I gotta say. Amazing. Yeah. Thanks for listening to this.

Favorite Out-of-Context Quotes

01:17:03
Speaker
Oh our favorite big out of contact quotes before we tell you guys goodbye and give you little kisses Yeah, would you like to go first parks? You want there was one you said the other day that I was thinking about and I don't know why I can't think of it now. Oh No, she she cut out. Oh, there you are. Okay. I lost it. I lost it. I lost it. It was something you said the other day and Now I have to go find it. Hold on. Oh
01:17:28
Speaker
You said it in the group chat. It was funny as fuck. I just forgot to, but I was thinking about it when I was in the shower. I was like, damn, I should go pin that one. Then I forgot to do it. Let me go see if I screenshot it on my phone. All right. I'm going to say yours, which was March 1st at 4.20 PM. You said, anyway, sorry I thought about killing myself. Check my KDA though.
01:17:53
Speaker
And then I sent you my sick ass fucking one-piece score, okay? It just made me laugh. Yeah. I'm a good guy. Damn, I don't know where it is. You say, specifically if you search up in our group chat from Nebula, there are 634 pages. Yeah, because I'd be talking. We'd be talking. Damn, it's from days ago. It is from days ago.
01:18:18
Speaker
What was, do you remember the context? I don't remember the context. No, it was something funny and kind of vulgar. Whoops. Damn. Damn. Guess you just have to pick from our backlog. Let me go look from our backlog. I have so many more than you because I just sometimes forget and don't take the ones you say from the group chat. That's my problem. Your funniest hits are there.
01:18:47
Speaker
You can't shame me. My initials are SMH. I was born a disappointment. It was really good because no one anticipated it but me. And it's hard to convey that because I've heard that one before you used it here. But you stopped Ray Deadness track to use it. And I think that's why I screenshot it that time. This is fucking funny.
01:19:08
Speaker
It's true. Don't over explain it. Start to over explain it, not really deliver it, but you really cut right off. He was saying some dumb shit and you're like, I'm always a disappointment. And he just stopped. Period. I don't know how to, I don't know how to talk about these anymore.
01:19:24
Speaker
You got his ass. Hell yeah. I don't know. I'm sorry I lost that

Listener Appreciation & Episode Wrap-Up

01:19:28
Speaker
quote. I'll go find it again. No, seriously, something vulgar you said and it was so funny. Amazing. You can save it for our next episode. If I find it, go through pages and pages and pages.
01:19:40
Speaker
um damn well thanks for listening to our show yeah thanks for contributing if you contributed a question uh we love you and you get extra kisses but if you listened all the way through to this point goddamn thanks you must be i don't know how you stayed committed to this honestly i would have turned it off after we started talking about not knowing what we're doing anymore
01:19:59
Speaker
Yeah, honestly, I'm kind of impressed that you stayed this long. And if you stayed through the whole phone call with my mom, wow, I commend you. I will tell her that so many people think that she's the coolest. Yeah. So if you think my mom's cool, patrons, leave a comment. Or if you want to hear Neb's mom be cool, send us money. Very true. You can pay to listen to my mom. Talk to us. You can listen to Neb torture her mom.
01:20:27
Speaker
by making her go through the closet. And try to find old Bongo. And we still didn't get an answer. It's like 15 years old and still we, it's lost to time. Anyways. Oh my god. We will talk to you guys next time. Jesus Christ. Bye. Bye.