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Vol 2 Ch 16: Nebula's Public Apology
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Hey friends, remember when this time last year, Nebula said she would never watch One Piece? You'll never guess what happened. This is today's execution, Nebula is on the block, and it's her time to tell us about who the king of the pirates will be.
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Introduction and Humorous Mishap
00:00:12
Speaker
This is the Sleepover Podcast. We are at Fandames with Parks and Nebula, the one that has just horribly backed herself into a corner with her own boyfriend about forgetting to take out the garbage and then trying to play it off super cool as Parks.
00:00:29
Speaker
Thank you, that's me, the one who does the chores in the house and never forgets ever in my life. I'm so glad that's my introduction for the fucking first episode in the last six months. You're so welcome. And I love you so much. That's me on record of being the person who forgets to take the trash out and then hides it. But you get to say one of the most embarrassing things of my life, I think, as my introduction. You were wrong.
00:00:59
Speaker
Everybody, we're gathered here today because Nebula was fucking wrong.
One Piece Obsession Begins
00:01:06
Speaker
Not just like a little wrong. Like, this is so wrong. It's been an argument multiple times. She shut down other people from talking about it because she just did not want to do it. She didn't want to participate. It was not her thing and she died on that hill time and time again. And today, she is fucking wrong.
00:01:24
Speaker
This is a issue that actually predates our friendship. Yes. It's a firm opinion that I held probably since I was 19, and I am 25 for reference. Yeah, fucking one piece.
00:01:48
Speaker
It's a good anime. It's a good one. I was very wrong. I was very incorrect. I'm 250 episodes deep. It's so bad. I have bad, bad one piece brain rot. It is...
00:02:07
Speaker
I don't do fan art very much at all, and I have drawn four characters. Well, one character twice, but four drawings in the span of two weeks.
00:02:23
Speaker
shitting it up. Because for the past while, when we first started being friends, and I first started caring about One Piece, because obviously friends of the show tried to get me into it, and I just didn't stick because I didn't have time to really watch it. And then I started getting to do a Gavin, and that was cool, whatever, and I didn't really have that much shame to it because I didn't have people fighting on it.
00:02:45
Speaker
But with you, when it first came with Jet, you're like, I don't know. I've had some bad. There is the same reason with me with my hero where it's like, I've had some bad things with the fandom. I just don't want to do it. Like it's not for me. Some of the people I've met have maybe not want to participate this or they've been very overbearing about it, whatever. And the next step it was like, actually,
00:03:06
Speaker
These characters are cool. I just can't get over a lot of the art. It gives me dysmorphia. I don't like the art. I don't think I can get over the art. And then you saw some stuff from the new episodes and some stuff from the movie. So actually, the art's okay. I just don't think I can get into it on my own though. And then you're into it. And I am just fucking head first. I don't even I don't know.
00:03:29
Speaker
really what the hang up
Favorite One Piece Arcs Discussion
00:03:31
Speaker
was that disappeared. I don't know what immediate thing just changed. I think it's because we talked about cosplaying stuff. I don't really watch it, but if you show me a design, I like how cosplay it. I think that's, yeah. And then we were just chilling and call it laughter. I think it's because, Loki, you missed me. Or was this before Phanex? It was before Phanex. Was it? Yeah, it was a month before Phanex because we were talking about how we can watch episodes in person too, together.
00:03:58
Speaker
Maybe, I don't remember. You at least swatched up until Buggy before Phanex, and then as soon as you got back, you hardcore started watching more. That's right, because I had to stop watching it so I could con crunch, which is why we didn't watch anything, and just turned on other shit so that we could shut our brains off during Phanex. Correct, yeah. But yeah, I am now into Water 7. Almost done with Water 7. I think you have like eight more episodes of Water 7 left.
00:04:27
Speaker
And then it's Annie's Lobby, I think, that's right after that. And Hot Damn, am I just... You haven't even gotten to the part where One Piece is like actually serious now and has like real plot. And I already love it.
00:04:43
Speaker
I love it. I love you, Frankie. Like beforehand, we get more plot. Like we get plot with like before Robin. So during Alabasta, we get plot, but it's just like, okay, we freed a country anyways, next thing. And I was like, oh shit. Plot is here. We're doing stuff. So far, my favorite arc is probably Alabasta because I really, really love Vivi.
00:05:11
Speaker
Wait until you get to the better part. He'll probably like it in his lobby way more.
00:05:15
Speaker
I'm sure I will definitely find other arcs that I love a lot more, but I just really liked the dynamic that Vivi brought to the Straw Hats, and I liked the back and forth of the Secret Agent thing, and then how Robin joins the crew. I enjoyed it. Also, because I just fucking love Vivi a lot. She's really cute. She's very smart. I adore her, and I love her stupid little duck brigade.
00:05:44
Speaker
I think for the same reason you'll like Rebecca and Shirahoshi. A lot of the princesses are very similar. Not like they're the same face, whatever, but they all bring similar assets to each other because they're all independent women who had to do shit on their own to get by. Fuck yeah.
Anime Symbolism and Cultural Significance
00:06:02
Speaker
We love this.
00:06:03
Speaker
You'll enjoy it. You'll like it when you get to Dressrosa. You'll like it whenever you're- I'm still at Dressrosa. Dressrosa's a fucking long arc. It's 150 episodes total. Jesus. I'm counting parts of Punk Hazard. Punk Hazard's not that long. I think it's like 45 episodes. But Dressrosa is fucking long. It's just like- I have so much shit going into it.
00:06:26
Speaker
wild to me at how quickly I got sucked into One Piece and how it really doesn't feel like a slog like I was worried it would. Because I love Inuyasha. It's one of my all-time favorites. There is a season that isn't really the greatest. It's kind of
00:06:46
Speaker
iffy here and there because a lot of it is filler. But the overall series is only like 250 episodes or something like that. And I just got to episode 250 in one piece and they're like, oh, yeah, here's some other core character that we haven't introduced yet. There you go. I think a lot of early one piece because it doesn't have that plot. Hold on. Sorry, I put I put I expected you to talk more.
00:07:14
Speaker
I can talk more. I can say more things. I can say how I adore Frankie so far. And Iceberg is a very interesting
The Dub vs. Sub Debate
00:07:22
Speaker
side character. I love you Tyrannosaurus, you sweet little mouse baby. We're not fully through the flashback, are we? Oh, God. I can't remember if I'm fully through the- I think he left off with what's happening to Tom and Frankie eviscerating his body by throwing himself in front of the train.
00:07:39
Speaker
Yes, that is where it left off. So there's way more iceberg you haven't seen yet. Wonderful here for it. I love iceberg. I like the concept of the C train a lot. I'm kind of curious now to know if there's like folklore, like Japanese folklore around the like the idea of a C train because it keeps popping up.
00:08:00
Speaker
Yeah, I, because this also isn't the first time we use the ski train in one piece, specifically in gold, there's a T or not gold, Z, there's an island that they have to take a C train back and forth to, but it's not like it's C train like Puffin Thomas, it's kind of like a trolley system more. Well, it takes you between like the smaller towns within a port. In, in Spirited Away, there's the the C train. And I feel like there was another
00:08:28
Speaker
movie that I saw recently that utilized it. Maybe I'm just crazy. But I'm just curious to know what the folklore impression of it is, because if there's a deeper meaning to little archetypes like that, then I love that kind of shit. It could be trains in general, though. You see very, very important train scenes in almost all of the major animes.
00:08:54
Speaker
There's one in Chainsaw Man, there's one in fucking, I can't even think of examples now. Full Metal Alchemist, there's an entire movie of train shit in Demon Slayer. A lot of them that have an older feel to the environment. Violet Evergarden's trains are very important. Yeah, true.
00:09:18
Speaker
Trains, passing of time, movement, change. The usual things. Listed words. I'm just saying shit, yeah. I will say, and dear listeners, this is not an apology. This is a fact of life that you have to put up with. I'm not watching the sub.
00:09:43
Speaker
because I have a lot of auditory processing issues when it comes to subtitled stuff, and because I like to watch anime in particular when I'm working on other things, like when I'm working on an art piece or if I'm sewing, and it's just too much for my stupid little brain to handle, so I am sticking with the dub. I will rewatch parts in Subbed, but
00:10:12
Speaker
That's not priority number one. I mean, the scenes that you were supposed to feel for, you did. You had the right emotions. So even if I didn't feel that part in the dub, you did and that's what matters. So some of the things you don't have to rewatch. Hell yeah.
Fan Content and Character-Driven Stories
00:10:26
Speaker
It also heavily depends though on where you're watching and how fast you're watching because if you manage to catch up to whole cake soon, you're going to have to swap this out because it's not Tawano yet in dub.
00:10:38
Speaker
Well, fuck. We are to probably not even the apex of the Whole Cake Island dub yet. So, but at that point, you'll be so deep in the story. I don't think it will matter. At that point, I feel like I could just read the manga and I'd be fine.
00:10:56
Speaker
Oh, she just gave me the most disappointed shake in her head. At that point in the manga, there's a part like in Dressrosa, one of the characters has a backstory that is one page. Not even that. And then it's like a whole episode because the way the anime handles certain things is way better.
00:11:16
Speaker
Like, certain flashbacks are so much better in the anime. That's why a lot of people consider it filler, even though it's whatever. It's just the way that you see it, but better. And so I think Whole Cake is definitely one of those arcs. And immediately into Wano, you've got to watch it. Because that's where our style jumps up to. That's true. That's true. Okay.
00:11:39
Speaker
I don't know, that's in 800 episodes. We'll see if you can get through 600 in the span of two months. I've gotten through 250 in the matter of a month. I feel bad for how slow I was watching, but I had conventions and stuff. I mean, technically my one year, one piece anniversary is in January. That's so cute. Thanks.
00:12:05
Speaker
But yeah, almost there. But I'm at like 670 right now. I'm at least more than halfway through the series. Hell yeah. Woo, wow. But we're going through about six to eight episodes every day when we watch it, so. That's a good chunk. Yes. I normally just like watch until I'm tired and then I'll go lay in bed and watch one more episode and I'm like, all right, I'm done. Do you have a TV in your room or not? No, I watch it on my phone.
00:12:36
Speaker
That's okay. But I will say that I think you're right about the cosplay aspect because the cosplay aspect is what really brought this intense fire to me to care about the characters and their interactions and to just flesh out the creative aspect of it a little more.
00:12:56
Speaker
I read a while ago, someone's opinion, I think it was on Tumblr or something, was that for really, really well-written stories, it's hard to find a lot of fan content. But for stories where the plot might take a long time, or maybe it's something that the creator is growing through, so there's a few parts that are slower, it's easier to find a lot more fan content because there's room for it to grow.
00:13:26
Speaker
And a lot of my favorites historically are really, really well written things. It's very hard to find good fan art or like any kind of fanfic or whatever for because there isn't a lot of room for it. But for a story that's this old and that had this much time to like fill in little side characters and stories, there's a lot of room for the fans
00:13:52
Speaker
to grow the parts that they want to grow, which I like. And that isn't a dig at all. It's just, that's what some stories are. There's more community to build from certain areas because people will all have their own niche thing that they like within it. And if you like one of those spaces, you'll be able to get into it very easy. It's like a door. Yeah, for sure. One of my, I mean, everybody fucking knows this, but my favorite anime is Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.
00:14:17
Speaker
And I think it's one of the best written stories, hands down, like ever. And I have very little desire to cosplay any of the characters or to do any fan art of the characters. And there's very few pieces of fan art that I would actually consider purchasing or that I want to own in any way. And most of them are like the cuter forms or the like intensely rendered very beautiful painting styles.
00:14:44
Speaker
because it's kind of hard to fill any gap when that story is so perfect already. But for something like One Piece where
Review of One Piece Film Red
00:14:54
Speaker
there's little characters that I want more of, because they're only there for an arc or what have you, they're still great whenever they're presented, but I want more of them, so that makes me- And we always check back in on them, though. Damn, do we always check back in with them. We fucking better. I need to see my baby- Oh my god, you'll see her again.
00:15:10
Speaker
I hope so. I know, I know I will, but like I miss her. Well, I mean just more than like you, she shows up for a bit. Bless. I love it. I can't tell you the context of it, but she shows up. And I can't wait to get to Carrot because she's cute as fuck. That's not until Zoe. I know. That's not until after Dros Arosa. I'm not even to Carrot. I know. I know. It's good. But she's with us from, she's with us from Zoe to Wano, so.
00:15:38
Speaker
That's at least 200 to 300 episodes. Oh, fuck yeah, okay. Or no, I think... I think Dressrosa ends at 760. And then Zou. But Zou's only like 30 episodes? Okay. 200. 230 or something. Whatever, I don't care. Podcast, Jet's gonna come up with his order and be like, this is exactly how many episodes Keratin's in. Like, okay, thank you. Sorry.
00:16:07
Speaker
We also saw the new one-piece movie, one-piece film, Red, that you have seen like three times or something now, twice, okay. I saw it in seven, I saw it in dub. Sorry, someone's very loudly scraping outside my window. Scraping? I don't know what that is. It sounds like someone's scraping ice, but it didn't snow, so it's probably just a shitty garage door opening. Alrighty. Don't worry about it. Okay. Don't worry about it.
00:16:35
Speaker
So one piece red? One piece red. I preferred the sub personally because I could not stand how Bartolomeo's voice is in the dub. I don't know why the fuck he's got a Brooklyn accent. That's not how he sounds. I love him. They also changed the dub, like both voices, from initial Dressrosa. So I don't know what the hell that was. None of the voices were his voice. I love this silly little Joey Wheeler voice. Hey, Mr. Luffy! What the fuck?
00:17:04
Speaker
I love him. All the songs were good. All of the moments with the Shanks Pirates, Baller, the CGI usage, once you have the kind of context, sorry, film red spoiler, that it's a dream and it's more of a world she can control. The music video aspects of the CGI totally
00:17:23
Speaker
didn't even matter to me, didn't clock to me. It wasn't like it was a keyframe that was being used as CGI. And it was also very minimal, except for like the end boss, which is whatever, because it wasn't a shit show like it was in Stampede, where the entire boss is a big metal, black CGI slab. Ugly. Gross. I only had an issue with the 3D in a few movement
00:17:49
Speaker
scenes that it was not in the context of the performance scenes. Like there's one very, very short little transitional spot where Uta is jumping down on the stage and she's like jumping one level to another. Yeah, she looks really stupid. And it looks really stupid. It kind of looks like those, those videos where people just click and drag to animate. I didn't clock it until the second watch because I wasn't paying that much attention at that point. I was looking at other shit that was happening. But
00:18:17
Speaker
for that to just be kind of the only thing that I can genuinely remember instantly as, oh yeah, I kind of cringed. I feel like it's on par with the My Hero movie, the most recent one that came out when... I mean, the story is really good and the side characters are great, but there are a few moments where the 3D animation, and even the 2D animation to an extent, is just very jarring because it's like they didn't spend enough time on it.
00:18:45
Speaker
so you're making a movie like isn't there that's where all the time should be you would think you would think you shouldn't have ugly little weird bad frames if we're you know no making a movie
00:19:00
Speaker
Uta's design bangs. She's super cool. I loved her weird little gold knight outfit that happens for 30 seconds, which is technically not a spoiler. Not a spoiler. It's in all of the music videos prior. It's in all of the Bounty Rush merch. We've seen that shit way before the movie even came out. Okay, cool. But I love her. I think she's a very interesting character in the movie in particular. I know it's
Usopp's Emotional Arc Defense
00:19:23
Speaker
not.
00:19:23
Speaker
canon to the actual story, but it was a nice contained little character arc that I wanted to fucking sob at the end of it. So there's that. So if you haven't seen the movie yet, I won't spoil the end, but be prepared.
00:19:43
Speaker
Her existence is canon, but the events in the movie weren't, which is kind of sad because within the episodes given to us, prior to the events of Red, spoiler for Red again, sorry. The episodes given is like, as far as Luffy is concerned, she's dead.
00:20:00
Speaker
So technically she's dead in canon, but not in canon. She's mentioned in canon at the end of one of the most recent, not most recent chapters within the last like post, I don't know, post-Wano she's mentioned in like a silhouette. So her existence as Shank's child is canon. We just don't have any canon bearing from the movie. We don't know if you know.
00:20:24
Speaker
water statuses. We'll see. It probably will not come up. Damn. I love her. She's alive in my heart. Yeah, true. Anyways, you can tune back in. We're done with spoilers. No more spoilers. No more spoilers. But yeah, very good movie. Very fun movie. I liked the cameos. I thought they were very well put. Law is awesome. I love Beppo.
00:20:45
Speaker
making everybody little was the funniest part. My favorite part was when Udo was like, if y'all are gonna be villains, you should look the part that she made everyone sexy. True. True. Thank you. She a little gay, though. Just a little bit. Little gay. Damn, Nami's boobs were struggling to stay to that top. Like.
00:21:03
Speaker
Yeah. Thank you, Uda. I loved Sunny. I wish Frankie interacted with Sunny a little bit more because all he did was like, what breed are you? Like, bro, that's your baby. That's your son. You made that. That's your baby boy.
00:21:22
Speaker
but that's okay. He acknowledged it, so that's what matters to me. I loved him. I love you, Sunny. I love Sunny. Fictional little weirdo. I can't wait for you to get Sunny while Sunny comes up for real. Oh, well, I'm at the part in the anime where, um...
00:21:37
Speaker
Frankie and Usop. I think that's where they threw the boat. No, I think that's where CP9 threw the boat in the water. CP9? I'm right right after the episode where they throw the boat in the water, but the one before that is when Frankie and Usop actually start dismantling it themselves and then Usop apologizes and starts hammering back together.
00:21:54
Speaker
Which I actually really enjoy that about Usopp's character. I like the arc with him and and the Mary. A lot of people thought it was very stupid that Usopp was throwing that tantrum because it's like it's just a boat but it's a lot of people I have to have I have to defend this moment all the time because people don't realize it's not a matter of the boat is bad and that this boat is his baby. It's part of Leap that but it's also if we're able to give up crewmates when they can't do enough when are we gonna get like when is he gonna be the one that's not caught up?
00:22:24
Speaker
Well, and it was a gift from this girl that he befriended and was trying to- Basically childhood crush. Yeah, just to make her life a little brighter and he thought that he had lost her almost because she was gonna fucking be assassinated.
00:22:40
Speaker
and then she didn't believe him and then she ended up giving him the marry and it's there's so many emotions tied to it that it's frustrating to look at it from the angle of oh it's just a boat why is it a big deal but like if your fucking car got in a wreck like or if someone hit it in the parking lot or what have you and
00:22:58
Speaker
You tried to to fix it yourself and you spent all these hours learning about how the car works and you Put your own two hands to the fucking metal you would be pissed when someone tells you this is totaled and it wouldn't just be upset because you have to go through the process of getting a new car it's
00:23:17
Speaker
But that was my car. It's the same thing, and it's frustrating to hear people be upset with that level of Usopp's character and his relationship with the Mary.
Evolution of One Piece's Animation Style
00:23:31
Speaker
A thing that a lot of people don't realize, and I have to be very careful with how I word this, so if anyone's listening who is caught up or is farther than Neb, the way I word this is gonna be very careful just so I don't give things away for her. But from the beginning, everybody on the crew has very, very active plans. You can figure out who's goal is where. Usopp's goal, unlike Nami's, which is making a map of the world, or Zora wanting to be the strongest swordsman, or Sanji finding the all blue, whatever.
00:24:01
Speaker
Usoffs is that he wants to go to Elbaf and be a stronger man.
00:24:05
Speaker
He just wants to learn to be a stronger man, which is something that can be measured, yes, but it's as we're moving forward, he's going to conquer these things and then we're going to run into stronger things. And he's not at that point yet. We haven't made it to Elbaf in the story, so he's not going to be able to complete his character arc, but that goal is his arc. So of course we're going to kind of move a little bit slowly through it because as we move on, we're getting to stronger and stronger people and he has to find his way to get through it every single time.
00:24:35
Speaker
Like, Usopp's not a coward. I mean, he's a coward, but he gets shit done still, and he comes to terms with it. He is a very good, more modern interpretation of the cowardly lion, of that whole concept and archetype of someone who cares very deeply for his friends, someone who wants to do his best but doesn't really have the tools to do so, and who is actively trying to be better,
00:25:02
Speaker
despite the fact that they aren't succeeding all the time. It's the fact that they are continuing to attempt and not just being defeatist about it, which is why I can see why a lot of people wouldn't like Usopp from that regard, but I do appreciate that he doesn't just let it be his butt of the joke aspect of his character. He truly keeps trying to improve even when he fails.
00:25:30
Speaker
And even if he thinks he could die from something, he still shows up and makes the effort to still help out in any way he can. And he's so clever when he does so. Yes. Anyway, I don't trust anyone who doesn't like USAP. We appreciate USAP and this sleepover. I love USAP.
00:25:48
Speaker
Usopp, you're a good boy. I don't think there are any weak straw hats. All of the straw hats provide a purpose and if that purpose is nothing but comic relief and just conversations with one another, good enough for me. Chopper!
00:26:02
Speaker
is the best. I love him so much. He makes me so happy. I adore him. Whoopin, I call him choppy. Anytime we're referring to him in conversation, we're just like, oh my God, did you get to this part with choppy yet? Because I love him. And I wholeheartedly agree with Jamie Lee Curtis.
00:26:23
Speaker
He is the best. She would be the best Dr. Correia of all time. I guess she would. I just really hope. But I don't think we're even going to get to Animated Chopper yet with where the live action is going. I think at most we'll get to Arlong Park. Dang. We'll see. Or at least, yeah, we'll probably get to Arlong Park and then to the Grand Line and then stop for that season. But that means that she can be in the next one.
Approaching One Piece as an Adult
00:26:51
Speaker
But yeah, welcome to One Piece Hell. Welcome. I hope you enjoy it. It has truly pulled me in a way that I was not anticipating. And it's upsetting that I hated it for so long for very little reason, because the apology part of this whole episode is...
00:27:14
Speaker
that I judged a lot of people based off their involvement with One Piece because of one very specific person that I had in my life at the time that was obsessed with One Piece to the point that he would make it the detriment of other media. So if you started to talk about other media that you liked, he would say, but it's not as good as One Piece and would weaponize the media that you did enjoy.
00:27:41
Speaker
and turn it into this weird contrarian way of saying, like, fuck you, One Piece is the greatest thing ever. And it is a very well-written story. It's a feat of fucking nature that Oda has done this for god knows how long. In 20 years? Yeah, I just, I can't imagine doing anything. In 23 years is when the first manga came out. It came out in 99.
00:28:03
Speaker
I can't draw a character the exact same twice. And this motherfucker has been doing it for 23 years. It's really incredible. And while there are still some aspects of his art style that catch me off guard every now and then or that I'm not a huge fan of, that's where the room for growth comes in with me and the fandom.
00:28:26
Speaker
you're going to get to the point where the animation changes and I think that happens before, I think it happens right after Annie's lobby in the midst of Thriller Bark.
00:28:38
Speaker
And you can tell when it happens, but once you get to that part, the animation changes and it moves into that newer level of animation that is throughout. It goes from Thriller Bark, like midpoint through Thriller Bark, all the way to Saw Body, all the way to Impled Down, Paramount War, Fishman Island, Dressrosa. And then Zoe kind of gets a newer art. I don't want to say it's a newer style, but it starts to get a little bit cleaner because you can tell as we're going through it.
00:29:07
Speaker
it starts to mature. And then through Zou and Whole Cake Island, we have that same style. And then Wano gets its own huge style. So you're almost to the point where like, I think if you can tell between Arlong Park, somewhere between like those early, early episodes where we change from not looking so much like a 90s anime.
00:29:26
Speaker
I think it's right before Skypia, you start to notice it. I have noticed. I think it might be shortly after Skypia starts is when you can really notice it. But I do also appreciate the subtle improvement as the show goes on because I love shitty looking old anime in its own regard, but for different reasons. I liked how in a lot of the early episodes, especially whenever we were first introduced to Usopp,
00:29:55
Speaker
It kind of looks like a Winnie the Pooh book page where there's water. Because half the world isn't fully colored in. It's just like a tree and then the background far away. You just get the watercolor of whatever grass is in front of you and a couple trees and it's just white on the edges. And while that would be annoying if it was that way for the entirety of it, I really did find myself liking the charm of it in the early episodes. And I think it is because it's this level of like,
00:30:23
Speaker
fleeting stylistic choice that the entire story carries because everything that Oda does throughout the story, throughout the character design and the world design, it's speaking as an artist. It's a reflection of whatever
00:30:42
Speaker
He is going through himself or his experiences at that point in his life. And so it's cool to see how that changes as the story progresses and as he gets more and more invested in it. But it's also nice to step back and appreciate it when they aren't as refined.
00:30:56
Speaker
And when things are more rough around the edges, because then you can fully absorb like he was still figuring shit out and he stuck with it and like these characters mean so much to him and everybody else now that we get to be with them for this much longer. And I think there's a lot of manga and anime that creators kind of couldn't get past that
00:31:19
Speaker
that hill. They couldn't get over that and I appreciate so much that Oda did. Even if his art is something that has taken me a long time to get used to, I still really appreciate the dedication aspect of it. Yeah.
00:31:36
Speaker
I totally agree. It was one of my biggest reasonings for why I was trying to get you to watch it because you do see this change even if it is rough. And a lot of it was like also you didn't like the way that the women were drawn. I didn't realize this or like learn this until the other day but Oda said in interviews that he because his wife is an actress. He likes to draw pretty women because he likes
00:31:57
Speaker
He likes to think about his wife. He draws pretty women because it reminds him of his wife. And he said in SBSs and other interviews that he married a woman like Nami and that's why he loves her so much on the crew and she draws her pretty doing her thing all the time because it reminds him of his wife. I'm gonna fucking cry. So there's so much of one piece that is involved in his personal life and how he feels and how he shapes the story.
00:32:21
Speaker
That's so precious. It's like his own baby. It is his own baby that he's basically been doing for 25 years. That's awesome. I also think it's really interesting to come to the fandom of one of the, quote unquote, big three Shonan's pretty much of all time, but to come into the fandom as an adult.
00:32:44
Speaker
and to not have had any kind of connection to it as a child because I only started forming opinions on One Piece once I was in college. And it's really jarring to go back to other anime that I had been exposed to or a fan of or that I disliked when I was younger.
00:33:07
Speaker
and then compare to what parts of that I liked or disliked versus one piece. And I'm looking at this now that even when I go back and watch anime that I watched as a kid, I kind of find myself reverting to that mindset of like, oh, the characters are older than me, like that kind of childish
Complexity and Community in One Piece
00:33:28
Speaker
mindset. But with these, I look at them and I'm like, oh, they're just,
00:33:32
Speaker
Dumbass nice silly teenagers. Yeah, like 19 and they don't fucking know what's going on in the world and I love them and I want to protect them and like it's it's an interesting dynamic to observe within myself as I'm a part of this media and I think that's pretty cool, but it's also Making me feel very old Robin is 27 28 pre time skip. She's 30 post time. Skip Robin's older than you. You're good. That's fine. I'm cool with it. I yeah, I love her
00:34:02
Speaker
Like, yeah, Nami, Sanji, Nami's 18, Sanji and Zoro are 19, and Usaf and Luffy are 17, three times good. So they're just a bunch of teenagers hanging out. They're just chilling. Pirates on a boat with their mom, Robin.
00:34:20
Speaker
Robin is Chopper's mom. Straight up. That is her baby. I love it. Whenever Chopper reaches up to hold her hand when there's... Especially during Foxy. I love them. I want to get a plus. Chopper is so bad. I want one where he's in his ball form. So his head is a little small and he's a big ass ball.
00:34:43
Speaker
I really wanna get one. I found one, I just have to get it. I wanna cosplay carrot with the chopper hat. And I think it would be cute to carry around a little chopper plush. I don't know if you've seen these, but they have chopper plushes where they're dressed up like other characters. So you can get a chopper buggy or a chopper ace or Luffy.
00:35:01
Speaker
Yes. And I think they have one for most of the main characters. Or if not, someone on Etsy is making them. But yeah, I love the chopper dress up designs. They are so fucking cute. Chopper about to be the new baby, baby. I'm gonna get all of them.
00:35:19
Speaker
I'm gonna go bankrupt for this baby bull. Also, Chopper Loki is one of the most well-known characters compared. I don't know, what other ones do you know? Happy from Fairy Tail, the one bear from Bleach. Is that bear even relevant? I don't even know, because I never got to that point on Bleach. Well, okay, so I actually did a fan art series of this not too long ago. So there's the cat from Fairy Tail. Well, characters with MacGuffins.
00:35:43
Speaker
The evil suicide cat from Madoka Magica, whose name I forget all the time. The fox spirit in Naruto, technically.
00:35:58
Speaker
He technically counts because he comes out. That one never got a little, that one never picked up as like a little guy. But he is a little guy in the newer episodes. No, I know he is. I know, definitely. But I mean, prior he was not a little guy. I'm talking about like 2010. Could I get a plush of this from this anime? Yes or no? Killala from Inuyasha. Yeah. Yeah. That one little thing from Zatch Bell you could get plushes of. I never watched Zatch Bell. I do not remember that anime. I know the name, but I don't, I couldn't picture it.
00:36:27
Speaker
It's not the little bald kid. Oh, my God. Can you? No. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, the queen. Oh, he wasn't bald. Never mind. He just was wore little dresses. I don't know. The queen of little guys is Luna from Sailor Moon.
00:36:48
Speaker
Yes, definitely. You can always get a plush Luna. You can get them worn out with Crystal coming back. Ew! What is this? Is it by the people that did Case Closed? I don't know. It looks ugly as fuck. I hate their eyes. But yeah, definitely on there. Definitely an anime. Terrible.
00:37:12
Speaker
Oh, tracious. Zatch Bell slander. That shit was on when I was watching Toonami and shit. And 4Kids. This was on 4Kids. Poor. From Dragon Ball. Poor. Poor. Man. I'm just gonna keep naming them. Krillin does poor better. Kyo from Fruits Basket. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:36
Speaker
Little guys, little dudes, little baby boys. Keep naming them all, eat a slice of pizza. I just keep naming them. I drew a bunch of them and now I just cannot remember them. I drew Luna, Artemis, Kyo, um, uh. Not Chopper, you're discriminating. I haven't. Well, I was mostly drawing cat inspired characters because I was doing the Maneki Neko pose. I had a whole theme and process. This was my concept to be an art student about it.
00:38:06
Speaker
I could not tell you the rest of them. I did Puar. I know that much. And I did the fairy tale cat. And I don't know anything about fairy tale, but I showed recently I showed a fairy tale fan and they were like, oh my God, this is amazing.
00:38:20
Speaker
Wow, okay, I'm glad you like this stupid little cat. A lot of my friends love fairy tale. I personally thought the writing was very bland, but I think all of Lucy's outfits are very cute. So we'll see. I feel that way about a lot of anime if I'm gonna be real. Me too. That's how I feel about Demon Slayer, which will get me booed, but I don't like Demon Slayer. It's fine if you don't like it. It's okay. You don't have to like it.
00:38:47
Speaker
I'm not going to share my opinion as to why. I just don't like it. You can share your opinion and I will not judge you. I think the writing is very mid and very, very, um, predictable. That's a fair assessment. Almost shot for shot. You can kind of tell where it's going until a character dies, but we get so many scenes that lead up to that character death anyway. It's like, this is already coming. I already know.
00:39:11
Speaker
I get that. This art is very pretty. The character design is cool, kind of. I like some of them, I don't like others.
00:39:22
Speaker
I do genuinely enjoy a lot of the side characters more so than a few of the main characters. I don't give a fuck about Tanjiru. I don't give a fuck about Zenitsu. I don't like Zenitsu. He is very annoying and I genuinely get frustrated when he has too much screen time. And his whole shtick of falling asleep and then being strong, fuck off. We've seen that done a million times better in a million different medias. Yeah.
00:39:50
Speaker
I do like Tanjiro, but I like him in very specific ways. I appreciate that they do highlight his character as still being a child. He's still very much a 14-year-old kid and that he is just a brother that misses his family. I really do like the sibling aspect of the story of the anime as a whole because
00:40:18
Speaker
I miss that kind of dynamic when it comes to stories like this. I think that's why I like Full Metal so much as well. Because normally it's like this romantic back and forth or it's a rival back and forth. And so it's nice when there's a little change of pace with a sibling relationship, even if it is kind of predictable. But Nezuko fucking rips. She's amazing. I love her. She is stupid strong and she's Lil Baby and she can shrink and she can get super tall.
00:40:48
Speaker
I adore her. I wish men would stop drawing her tits. I wish men would stop drawing her tits and would just appreciate her as a cool character and not be horny because she's baby. Be normal. She's literally six.
00:41:03
Speaker
She's, no, she's 12. Is she? She's 12 or 13. You're thinking of the scenes where she's like itty bitty tiny, and that's because when she gets her demon powers, she has the ability to shrink and grow her body. And that's how she can fit into the box. That's why people justify her. That's why people justify drawing her big ass titties.
00:41:24
Speaker
Yeah, because whenever she gets really strong and she gets taller and more muscular, there's like a definition to the cleavage, but it's because of her pectoral muscles, because she's like She-Hulk, essentially. And it's frustrating to be whenever people are like, excuse to draw titties.
00:41:43
Speaker
Weirdos. Weirdos. To me, it's- Speaking of weirdos. I'm going to finish this thought. Oh, okay. To me, it's on the same wavelength as people who will only draw Yamato with his big juicy tits and not with his abs or his muscles or anything like that. I don't care if you draw lewd Yamato because he does have a very feminine presenting body in some works, but if you draw it through a very, very
00:42:10
Speaker
a male gaze approach where you don't give him strong arms and abs with his big ass boobs. So I got my eye on you. I know what you are thinking. You are feminizing my trans mask.
00:42:25
Speaker
I will kill you. He is our boy, do not feminine. Cause he is trans-mask, he just has boobs and that's okay. And you know what? If you're trans-mask and you have big ass titties, I support you.
Critique of Sword Art Online
00:42:38
Speaker
But most of the scenes with big ass titties are drawn over pecs still. Like they're not like boobs like robins or namis, like they're drawn over pecs. Or like bandaged back in some way. Like fuck yeah. You motherfuckers see this, you know this and you still do it.
00:42:54
Speaker
I will fuck you up. But it's mostly just porn artists. It's not like people actually in the community. True. Whatever. Yamata would be one that would be fun to cosplay. I don't want to make the back wrap. I want to do Odin, but I don't want to make the back tie. I mean, I saw like how some people do it and it's less intimidating once you break it down into the way that they do it. Yeah, but I have to make a bunch of tubes and make a wire rack and then tie that around my waist and feed the tubes under the wires.
00:43:24
Speaker
Yeah, but if you do it right, then you can just do like... And if I do it for one character, I can do it for the other. Yeah, you just make one and then add a little snap or hook that it attaches to. That way you can take it off. And I can cosplay Yamitsu and Odin. There you go.
00:43:44
Speaker
That's me with all the carrot bases right now that I'm getting. Well, it's because you have to get a big ass tail wig and then you're good. Except one of the versions requires a long wig. Well, um, I love that version, by the way. Uh, I mean like the bodysuit and the tights and then like the little bunny rabbit gloves that she wears for beast pirates and, um, her tail and her boots. She wears the same shoes for most of the same outfits. So does Nami. So if that's like,
00:44:14
Speaker
If I just get all of those, then I could swap her out with whatever average clothes that she'd look super cute in. And I think it would be fun to eventually cosplay a Wano carrot to match you guys. Yeah, I think she is. I don't think she has two outfits like Onigashima does. I haven't seen Onigashima because I'm fake, but most people get an outfit change at that point.
00:44:40
Speaker
But I have to see if hers does or not. I'm fake says the bitch that's 700 episodes in. I'm not at Wano. Nevermind. My point is I haven't seen the part I'm talking about. Oh, well, you know, it's fine. I'm almost there. I know I'm setting the seeds. Oh, my God. Have we been setting the seeds for Wano for the last 200 episodes?
00:45:05
Speaker
It's like, hey, we're gonna get to fucking Kaido eventually, bitches. Like, oh my God. Okay. God damn. Ooh, see that in 400 episodes. Man, this is the issue that I have with One Piece, is that I get so stoked about these little pieces and these little pieces.
00:45:22
Speaker
these little like characters and uh little arcs and designs and i'm like i just i just want to get there now let me just but when you get there and you're caught up and having to wait for every episode weekly you're not going to be happy i've lived my life with that for so many things i know but you're being spoiled through
00:45:43
Speaker
the full metal alchemist brotherhood premiere me too i was a fan of fma beforehand and it was my favorite and i lived through the premiere episode to episode so i can live through one piece new episode i think a lot of people don't realize when they're watching it that there's always another episode
00:46:02
Speaker
Like you're never gonna run out of episodes until you get to fucking 1000, but there's always another episode. So it's like, if you don't have something to watch, throw on One Piece, watch like a bunch and you're good. Like there's always more. And then once you start to catch up, you're like, I don't know what to watch while I wait for this to happen. That is when you watch your older anime that you love. I know, we're at the phase where other people are rewatching One Piece instead of, you know,
00:46:33
Speaker
I think my go-to to rewatch if I just need to put something on in the background is like weirdly enough Death Note or Inuyasha. Just because they're easy. Oren's a good one, but I get to invest every time. I don't know. I always try to be like, all right, I'm gonna cut this. Let me get to the last episode.
00:46:56
Speaker
Oh shit, what's going on over here? Oh my god, Tamaki no! And I'm like slicing my thumb off. I can't help it. I just, I can't help it. Lucky Star is a good one to just kind of put on in the background. That would be cute if we cosplayed them at some point. I think you gave me a Lucky Star uniform. I did give you a Lucky Star uniform. I have to figure out which wig to get with it. I'll figure it out. It'll be cute.
00:47:21
Speaker
I have so many uniforms. I have a Kakaguri one I haven't used yet. Yeah, I need to get one so we can- I have it. I could technically do it with my Misa cause, like my Misa wig was for Mary, so I could just do that at any time. I just haven't yet. Damn. I don't know. Anyways, the other day we made a bunch of people mad at us on Twitter because we shit-talked Sorter online. Oh, I forgot about that. I didn't.
00:47:48
Speaker
Um, yeah, so I'm just going to talk about Sartar Online being really bad for a second, if that's okay with you. Hell yeah. Um, but basically the entire point of their argument was that it was fest like, I'm just talking about communities. I guess it was like, why are I trying to interject with this earlier?
00:48:04
Speaker
But their whole argument was if you criticized it in any way, you were stating an objective fact, which was not, that's not how that works. But if you did provide any context for why you felt that way, they would say that you're just spouting YouTuber nonsense instead of forming your own opinion, whether or not you watch the show, or if you did, they would just say, no, you didn't, which was very silly. And that's why that community made me stop watching that fucking show.
00:48:33
Speaker
because I used to want to cosplay Asuna and participate and then weirdos scared me because they thought they were Kirito and they're not Kirito at all.
00:48:41
Speaker
Yeah, and it was a lot of like, oh, if you did watch it, you've misinterpreted it, or you're just projecting, blah, blah, blah. I don't care. I don't care enough. Could not give more of a shit, to be honest. I could not give less of a shit. I do not care. You don't understand nuance. Those girls were almost assaulted. I watched Berserk.
00:49:05
Speaker
I read Berserk, I need all of the nuance I can get, bro. I know, I'm okay with seeing this. This is bad, this is a bad way to do it. I love horror, the definition of nuance. Watching women be assaulted or watching people die does not matter to me, it's how it's used. If the purpose is to pat Kirito on the back and say, good job buddy, you saved a woman from almost being raped. No.
00:49:36
Speaker
No, that's not a good use of it at all. If the point is that we're going to literally traumatize a different character and this character, but then still utilize that trauma and give them that trauma response. Cool. Good. Trauma is okay to have. But if you're traumatizing one character to like,
00:49:58
Speaker
make someone else a hero just to do it. That's unnecessary. It's sort of online does it a lot. It's insulting to not only to the character that's going through the traumatic event, but to people who have gone through that traumatic event.
00:50:12
Speaker
or something close to it that are watching that or reading that particular story, because then it becomes like, oh, cool. So my trauma as a reader was just here and just happened for someone else's benefit.
00:50:29
Speaker
And that's a very defeatist and upsetting thing to think. And I don't think that that's being responsible with the kind of ability that these mangakas and showrunners, mangaka, mangaka, mangaka, mangaka, manga writers and showrunners have. I think that it's, it's too, and I don't want to say it's abusing their power, but it's, it's
00:50:59
Speaker
Definitely irresponsible. And it's frustrating to me and I'm fucking sick of it. Poor writing. It is just poor writing. And it's been going on for as long as there's been stories and as long as there's been women to assault. It's like in Game of Thrones, the book doesn't have all of these times we need to assault Daenerys, so why do we do it? Why? Why is the thing? Why do we have to be aware of this? Outlander? Are you familiar with Outlander?
00:51:28
Speaker
like a little bit it's it blows my mind that um so many white suburban moms can love this show with the sheer amount of just assault is in it it is insane it's just how are you cool with it when it's it doesn't accomplish anything it's just like oh historical fiction she gets transported back in time so she's got to get raped like i just don't i don't see any appeal to it
00:51:58
Speaker
They just like to assault women to do it. And it's weird. That's when it's weird. And I don't, I don't know. Fuck sorta online dudes. I don't know what they got. I don't know what. I don't know. We make people mad on Twitter.
Attack on Titan Ending Controversy
00:52:12
Speaker
It was fun though. It's not a community I want to interact with. It was absolutely. I also pissed off Attack on Titan fans because, you know, this is not, this is not a new take for me. I fucking hate it.
00:52:24
Speaker
I apologized kind of fake in the comments because it was like, oh, I didn't realize you didn't say all those things that were very pro anti-Korean imperialism. My bad. Fake Twitter ha. Please stop talking to me. Because if you block someone, they'll post about it sometimes and it will just make more noise.
00:52:45
Speaker
So I just said my bad and then left it. Yeah, I don't retract my statement at all. I'm not going to support anti Semitic shit like that. It's fucking weird. No, but damn, do those communities suck cocking balls?
00:52:59
Speaker
because the reason I even bring up Attack on Titans was because the community has been sending death threats to the mangaka because they don't like the way that it ended. Oh, that's the reason that they've been sending the death threats. I didn't like the ending, not all of the incredibly disgusting associations. What's the community bit of it? It's like, I can draw the line, or I can excuse racism, but I draw the line of animal cruelty. That's exactly this.
00:53:28
Speaker
Okay, pick a struggle, baby. I'm sorry that Eren didn't want to get cucked by Mikasa and had to fucking rewrite history. That was weird. I guess part of it is that he was able to, like, the reason that his mom died at the beginning was because he, from the future, caused that titan thing. Because he has control over all the titans. I don't know. Poor writing. But he stops being the villain because he didn't want someone to fuck Mikasa and fill her with cum.
00:53:58
Speaker
Hey, so, that's a sentence I never wanna hear again in my life. No, I'm for real, I'm for real. No, I believe you. I'm for real. Armin is like, bro, someone's gonna fuck Mikasa and get her pregnant. And he's like, I don't want that. I wanna be the one to do that. What? What?
00:54:28
Speaker
Why are so many people horny for this character? I conclude that the people who dick ride Attack on Titan are trying to play into a sunk cost fallacy and are afraid of putting it down because they've wasted so much time on it. There's no way in hell y'all are coming at me sideways over Aaron desperately needing to. There are exactly two Attack on Titan fans. No, okay. Let me take this back.
00:54:58
Speaker
There are, because I was counting a group as one individual, that's wrong. There are four Attack on Titan fans that I know in person that I will excuse. And the only reason that I will excuse them is because three of them are my cousins. And they are very young and still figuring shit out. And you know who you are. I know you're listening to this. Hi, I love you. The fourth one is whoop.
00:55:30
Speaker
He defends that? Well, he doesn't defend the stances of the creator. He likes parts of the story. Has he read the manga? I don't think he has. So he hasn't gotten to this sloppy, bad writing? I really was watching the show just to see what I'm missing because I was bored at work one night. So I watched all the way through the third, fourth season, I think.
00:55:58
Speaker
And then I stopped while that season was going on and I haven't picked it up since. I don't know where we're at right now. It feels like they're currently milking the finale because they don't want the show to be forgotten about. They've been milking the finale for almost a year. Yeah. Yeah. It's because the Maga has been done. It's over. And it ends exactly how I told you. Wow. I hate that.
00:56:25
Speaker
I'm so glad I never got into that show. Why would you not want to get into the show that ends with the weird step sibling incest? I went back in time and killed my mother and traumatized me, myself, and all my friends in the process of this, haha. The difference is if it was like a shitty isekai that was named, that sentence you just said, and it was funny.
00:56:50
Speaker
I might give it a chance. I could become a mangaka. I just named the best isekai of 2025.
00:56:57
Speaker
But the fact that it's this serious drama is what's upsetting to me. It's like Konosuba is the best isekai. Oh, also they were sending death threats to Mappa because Mappa took over the animation because the original studio didn't want to do it anymore. And they were mad that Mappa was animating close to the manga because Mappa always pretty much does the stylization for whatever they're animating. It's not like a trigger work where it will always look like a trigger work.
00:57:26
Speaker
So they were sending death threats because they didn't like the way that things were animated even though it looks kind of better now that it did before. They just like to be mad.
00:57:34
Speaker
I don't. That's what I've concluded. So come apart, brain love. Oh yeah, that's it. That's just where my brain is. It's a good opening though. I can't, I'm just, I'm going to shut my brain off and think of the happy little one piece times anytime this other bullshit pops.
00:57:59
Speaker
Man, I love arguing with people on Twitter. I hate it. I genuinely hate it. At least in one piece, Twitter, you just argue about power scaling, which most people don't give a fuck about. Or it's people trying to say that Yamato is a woman.
00:58:13
Speaker
That's literally the most I argue about within One Piece. I just don't care about arguing on Twitter. No, me neither, but it's like I observe it. And sometimes I forget that some of our friends of the program have big followings and I'll comment on it and then it's like, oh my God, shut up. Yeah.
00:58:32
Speaker
Please Nothing against that friend.
Navigating One Piece Fandom Discussions
00:58:35
Speaker
It's just they're following we'll see it because you know, they have that following so it's like I'm sorry for Expressing it. I'm sorry, you know, they agree with me. It's just everybody else. Yeah, it's it's that I like being put under that microscope It's the microscope effect really, please God It's one random sentence. I said You don't know who I am from this one tweet that said I hate these people
00:59:00
Speaker
Please, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying on purpose. I'm so sick of you. Big fucking yikes. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. Wampis. Wampis. I've been calling it Wampus. Whatever. Whatever whoop and I watch it. We'll put it on if we're eating dinner or something. If you want to watch Wampus.
00:59:26
Speaker
for watching from where you are, I'm assuming, because he's very far ahead of me. Yeah, he's ahead of me. He's in Thriller Bark right now. Thriller Bark is fun. That's why we're still dealing with the if Luffy's at the main thing right now, it will be over too fast. Okay. So there's a little bit of filler kind of this not filler, it just feels like this is going on for a minute.
00:59:48
Speaker
Um, kind of like the sneak in skype. Whoop is using a very specific order that he found online that is it the one pays order? No. Um, but it's like it specifies even time stamps in the episode if there's a flashback for filler so that he can skip the filler.
01:00:08
Speaker
at that level. Well, to be fair, if you're watching One Piece that fast, because other people were watching it within a year, like they need this flashback. This arc started a year ago. Can I please get this versus us who are watching it immediately? We don't need that. Yeah, so he's skipping through all of that and he's just going so fast. Fair enough. I skim some of those too. I don't really skim episodes once I start them.
01:00:32
Speaker
Just for the most part, once you kind of get to that episode, you're like, oh, this is just a recap of what I saw. I'm done and I skip a little bit ahead. I don't skim normal episodes just like the flashback parts. But where I'm at, we don't really get those that often. If it's a flashback, it's an important flashback that is for a character we're meeting or whatever. Or it's something from like 400 episodes. Yes. You kind of need that refresher.
01:00:57
Speaker
Basically, yeah. Most of everything I've watched though is still fresh because it's been within a year. So it's not a big deal for me. Fuck. This has been a very uneventful one piece apology. No, it's just us coming back. We're just chilling. I'm obsessed with Wampus. It's happening. And now I kind of want to stop recording and go watch One Piece. Yeah, right?
01:01:24
Speaker
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We would like to say thank you to Oakley, Ryan, Ry, and Ray. Thank you so much for being a part of our production, still being patient with us. The rest of our patrons, thank you so much for being patient with us while we were undergoing our very long hiatus as we're trying to work through events coming back, our panels. Once we get our panel footage back, we will be editing that and putting that up on the podcast Patreon soon. And then after like a month, we'll put it on YouTube for release for everybody else who wants to watch it.
01:02:49
Speaker
Whatever. Right now we have panel submissions for Level Up Expo in Las Vegas. We're working on one for Akon later. We are just working like fucking crazy to try to get our panels down and out there and listening to the show, promoting us to your friends definitely helps us get that foot forward. So thank you everyone for supporting us still, Nebula. I forgot how we end this show. Well, do you have thoughts before I pass it to you to plug yourself?
01:03:19
Speaker
I did have thoughts and then they fell out of my brain. Panel wise, we did a panel in September that I absolutely fucking loved and we should do a recap after we get the actual panel itself out.
01:03:35
Speaker
Um, just for everybody do like a fun little mystery science theater 3000 kind of commentary. That'd be cool. But it was an experience that I fucking would not trade for anything. And I really hope we get to do it again. So, um, if you are able to come out to conventions in 2023, that's what we are planning for. We have for sure locked in level up in Las Vegas in February and a con in Dallas in June.
01:04:02
Speaker
And fan X and Salt Lake in September. So that's three opportunities are our Meetups I personally will be going to those ones, but I'll be also going to Sakura con out in Seattle and I think that's it Just that one blah blah blah blah. Fuck. Yeah So if you're that way and you want to meet me, I'll be there Mmm, I don't know
01:04:28
Speaker
Chillin'. Just chillin'. Yeah, I guess. I'm submitting a panel proposal for that one because it's just me. I'm going to try to make it more 1P centric and try to get my friends on that panel. Oh, fuck yeah. That's exciting. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Hell yeah. We'll see what happens. Either way, Nebula, where can we find you on social? You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at nebula underscore inky and parks. Where can they find you?
01:04:56
Speaker
Um, you can find me under a little light B on Twitter. You can find me on the Instagram as crown guard cosplay. And I've been streaming a lot more with Nebula and my precious boyfriend, um, on my Twitch at lady crown guard, Nebula working from her podcast. You can find this podcast directly in your ear. We live there. We live in your ear canal. We are whispering to you as you hear this, but are the little snails on each side of your ears.
01:05:24
Speaker
If you want to take a break from the snails, you can find our information on Instagram at Fandame's Pod, Twitter at Fandame's Pod, and we are on Spotify, and I believe Apple Podcasts now? I have to double check. I will look right now, actually. Look right now. I keep getting emails where it's like, Fandame's, check your Apple Podcasts, whatever, and it's pretending like we're on there, but it won't update. Nerdtastic Galaxy is, and it's put through the same process ours is.
01:05:54
Speaker
Like, they're through the same site. They just, like, whoop more. We're not on Apple Music, but we are on Amazon Podcasts. We are on Amazon Podcasts. And Audible. You can find us on Audible. In Deezer and a bunch of other shit. If you're my grandmother.
01:06:10
Speaker
But yeah, you can find us there. You can follow us on our socials and all the bullshits and hang out. We're gonna get back on our sticker grind. We're gonna get back on our shit. I don't know. Eventually, we'll get there. No promises. Well, it'll happen. We're just doing it. We're just vibing. We're doing it. Do you wanna go wash one piece? I have to go eat dinner first and then I'll get back for one piece. Fucking... I cannot with you.
01:06:38
Speaker
I just want to eat dinner. I've talked to Gavin for 10 minutes today. Okay, tell the listers bye so you can go eat your pizza. Bye! Say bye. Bye. That was very rude of me. Yeah, that was really rude. Say it like you mean it. Oh my god. Goodbye. Goodbye. From the snail in your ear. From the snails in your ear.