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Transcript
Introduction and Season Overview
00:00:18
Speaker
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod brought to you by Marrera's Magic. I'm your host Holmesy, three-time top 10 finisher and twice runner-up in AFL Fantasy Classic. The buy rounds are behind us. We're about to enter into the final third phase of the season, back to best 22s.
00:00:35
Speaker
And I don't know about you boys, but we're about to see all of the sideways trading come to fruition and... Yeah, it's going to be interesting.
Guest Introduction: John Harmy and Insights
00:00:44
Speaker
We don't have Jordy again with us. He's off traveling the world, but we do have our two-time top 10 finisher and runner-up in 2019, John Harmy with us. Harmy, mate, the Bombers aren't going well.
00:00:57
Speaker
The fantasy team's not going too well, but you're here, mate. How are you? Hello, host, Hamesy. Great to be back on the pod. um After yourself and the Goat Selby fixed one up for us last week, which was great.
00:01:12
Speaker
Yeah, look, I've had a pretty poor bye period, it would be fair to say. But I'm back because looking at the scores this week, we've all we're all over 2,000. So we've all performed well because we we knew we were on the podcast this week.
00:01:29
Speaker
do you want to know a fun fact, Tommy? The 21-53, and we'll get to it, that I had this week, that was my second highest score for the year. And that was in a buy round. Haven't gone above 2200 this year.
00:01:41
Speaker
It's been, yeah, it's been a nightmare. Yeah, I saw that. You snuck in a decent one. Before that last game of the round, was in the top 1,000 and I scored about another 20 points or something because it a pretty poor result there. But yeah, man, you must have had a really good week.
00:01:58
Speaker
Yeah, what did that put you for the round, Holmesy? <unk> Yeah, about 400-odd round rank, which was which is a good way to finish, but I didn't have a lot of the popular guys on the buy, being, yeah, Messiahs, Bonts, Holmes, Baz, all those guys. So du you come like come might come home to roost
Guest Introduction: Louis and Ruck Challenges
00:02:14
Speaker
this week. We'll see. But...
00:02:16
Speaker
You did hear our perennial top 1K finisher, Louis, here with us. And before we get into the show, Louis, we've struggled with the rucks this year, not knowing how the new rules are going to impact all that kind of stuff. But word is you've actually put the boots back on to try and win ah win a premiership and you're you're playing rucks. So do you have any have any insights for us on how it, you know, what it feels like to be a premier ruckman in the competition you're playing?
00:02:43
Speaker
Oh, look, I feel bad for the rucks. It's it's it's tough work. the The soreness I can relate with. Yeah, there's a lot of unheralded work going on there. And um yeah, sometimes I do think, oh, come on, toughen up. But I'll tell you what, a couple of weeks of amateur football playing ruck and I think I'm ready to hang the boots back up again. So, yeah.
00:03:07
Speaker
um But yeah, that's that's been a little endeavor that I've done over the last couple of weeks, which has been good fun. um it's ah it's It's a lot easier when you're not going well at fantasy too, I must say. Playing footy on the Saturday, you're not but quite as stressed about what's going to go on at midday with the laid outs. And yeah it probably certainly helps
Impact of Rule Changes on Fantasy
00:03:30
Speaker
as well. um The rule changes that were made with the 50% sort of sub rule and stuff, which is um sort of backing over last year, it's good to sort of see that that sort of helps people out that are actually playing some amateur footy on the weekend. They're not going to get totally screwed over with some of those sub rules just before they sort of play their own games.
00:03:51
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. And we're still we're still seeing it now. We'll go over, obviously, Brent Daniels in in a little bit. But yeah, it's definitely a a good rule, I think. You don't get hit with the double price drop plus the the points. And definitely is showing having a stronger bench at this time of year. If you can if you can pull some points out, then it still keeps you in the hunt. But let's go over our rounds.
00:04:13
Speaker
Louis, I think you're starting us off this week.
Fantasy Performance and Player Impact
00:04:17
Speaker
Yep, I got the 2005. I um also didn't have all those popular players that you mentioned, Holmesy. I don't have don't have Baz, don't Nassai, Wanganin, Miller, Holmes, but clearly not going as well as what your mum is at the moment. But still reasonably happy. I think that put me...
00:04:35
Speaker
um 11,000th for the round which is a little bit higher than usual so I've ah sort of I've come into 17,000 rank for this buy period which is nice so I've sort of graduated from that 20,000 rank hopefully we can stay out of there and maybe soldier towards that 10,000 I think the team's looking in Fairly good, Nick.
00:04:58
Speaker
I should complete it, or I probably would have completed it this week if it weren't for a couple of ah injuries, which we'll speak about soon. But um my Stato pick of the week has got to go to Sheasel.
00:05:12
Speaker
173s is just phenomenal effort. I think that would be nearly close to one of the highest scores of the year, would it not? The highest, yeah. Yeah. yeah So, definitely tip my cap to that. Would have been nice to have him captain. I had the VC on Nick Dacos for 143, but thought I'd take it on for Jordan Dawson. LAUGHTER
00:05:38
Speaker
ah Yeah, that was definitely a mistake. I certainly um ah lost track of time there a little bit. And by the time the showdown started, I sort of realized sitting at the pub, and i was I was cheering on Jordan Dawson a bit more than I'd like to as a Port supporter. But... um Anyway, that's okay. we yeah We weren't too punished there. Anyway, the Dossie Pick of the Week, I'm going to give it to Petrarca. He was putrid. That was just a disgusting effort. and um He's just had an absolute fall from grace over the last couple of months. So he's definitely on notice. and
00:06:17
Speaker
While we've probably said the whole season that he's basically guaranteed to be a top six forward, the way he's playing at the moment, i think you'd probably choose three or four other players above him and maybe not in that top six. so yeahp and before Before you go on, Lou...
00:06:34
Speaker
I was at that game on the weekend and to see him lose his midfield role to Nick Holman, a bloke that... If you're listening, Nick, I apologize. I know you're a fan of the show, but shouldn't really be on an AFL list.
00:06:48
Speaker
And they're chucking him in the CBAs over Petrarca. I get it. they need They need some defensive grunt in there. And clearly Petrarca, Anderson and Raoul aren't working, but far out. Nick Holman.
00:06:59
Speaker
is, yeah, hard to hard to watch. Yeah, I don't think you could have put it better, Holmesy. That's um the grim areas that we're operating in at the moment. And maybe we'll
Lessons and Strategies from Buy Rounds
00:07:09
Speaker
speak about Nick Homan a little bit later in the podcast as an option. But um I'll also just mention ah Brent Daniels, which, you know, is...
00:07:22
Speaker
There was probably enough pointing towards him being a half-decent pick, but I mean, maybe we're silly. it's It's a season where players who are injury-prone have just continued to get injured, and he's returned from injury. He's got the role. We pick him, and and he inevitably gets injured again. This guy's probably...
00:07:43
Speaker
going to be put on a list in terms of just watch out for the next couple years in terms of fantasy because he just can't stay on the park. And the 28, I can't even say I was surprised. I saw the score. i was going to bed. It was a bit too late for me. I saw the score and I went,
00:07:59
Speaker
Yep. Sounds about right. All right. Good night. yeah Yeah. Almost wasn't too upset by it just because it felt inevitable. So, yep. As you mentioned, Holmesy, thank God for the 50% TOG rule. Just would have been nice to have somebody on the bench for that. Yep. Special shout out, Leo Lombard career game coming into my 18th. Yeah. That's who I traded out. So that was great. Yeah.
00:08:29
Speaker
Harmi, how did you go this week? Well, I have put up 2069, puts my rank at 14,958. Believe it or not, that actually moved my rank up 4,000 spots. So I dropped 9,000 positions at the start of the buy period, which was hard to take.
00:08:53
Speaker
My Stato pick of the week, I'm going to give it... Let's give it to Sam Durham, 108 on debut. had to sort Take that, Louie. After that Brent Daniels injury, had to change my trades a little bit, knowing I was going to burn one on him this week. So I've changed... And and this one, this is just...
00:09:15
Speaker
Very lucky. I had it as Isaac Rankin. So that would have been 41, which would have been pretty ordinary. So anyway, Durham for 108. What a gun. um My dossie pick of the week, I'm going to give it to...
00:09:32
Speaker
Rory Laird, who I imagine wouldn't be all that highly owned for his 11.2nd half, 66 at halftime, thinking he was on track for a decent score, and then he didn't even end up counting for me for the round, so...
00:09:50
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know what to say about that. Shed any light on that one, Lou, watching the game? Yeah, what did what did you see from the hill at the showdown, Louie, or didn't go? Regarding who, sorry? Rory Laird. 11 points, second half.
00:10:03
Speaker
Yeah, I wasn't paying much attention to Rory Laird. Certainly not in the second half either. What a... What an effort from the power. That was a fantastic watch, right? I really enjoyed that after the week of sort of hearing that we're going to lose by 10 goals.
00:10:22
Speaker
I did watch that game quite closely. though was I was at the the pub with Rowan Fantasy Marketplace, which was which was quite a good night. And um Yeah, I think in terms of the Crows, Port just sort of strangled them all night. And honestly, no bias involved. They just didn't let them sort of get on the outside or or let them get a run on. And um yeah, it sort of turned into a bit of a grim night for scoring for the Crows. And um yeah, I suppose credit to the way that Port played, it was quite defensive. But yeah, it really stifled all the fantasy scoring in terms of how they were operating at the moment.
00:11:00
Speaker
Yeah, that and Adelaide just let Butters and Horn Francis just run free and do as they please for for most of the game, which was very interesting. We know Peatley can run with guys, so it's for Knicks to come out and said they had a plan for him in the first half. I'm not sure what the plan was, but it was... Trying to get really tired from having the ball so often and kicking it.
00:11:20
Speaker
Butters is a gun. I'm sorry that going to lose him, Louis. It must be pretty tough. Oh, yeah, we should be remunerated quite nicely too. So, yeah, it is it is stiff though.
00:11:33
Speaker
Yeah. I, as mentioned off the top, had a really good round. So, I had the 2153, which brought my rank in from about 2300 into 1132. So, just outside the top 1000, hoping to have a three-digit rank at some point soon, which would be a a nice cap to a pretty challenging year.
00:11:55
Speaker
My Stato pick of the week, I just want to give a shout out to Finn Callaghan. He's quite unique for me. um he's He's put up some some pretty decent scores of late, showing that he can get it done in a in a bunch of different ways. He actually went to halfback in the second half when all the injuries happened for GWS and and looked pretty good. So hopefully he's ah he's an inside midfielder moving forward. But if he's getting a tag, releasing him at halfback might be a ah nice way to break that.
00:12:23
Speaker
Special shout out to Chad Warner as well, 128. As someone that I'm still nervous to own each week, I think that's four tons on the trot now, which is,
Trade Strategies and Player Analysis
00:12:31
Speaker
ah yeah. Giving his chocolates, come on. He's been phenomenal.
00:12:36
Speaker
and We talk about luck, Army. I can't remember exactly what week it was, but I was trading him out. And then we had an injury and I ended up holding him instead. And he's gone, yeah, four tons back to back, which is...
00:12:47
Speaker
Very good from the Chad. My dossie pick of the week, just going to give it to myself for Carl Amon, 67. Really liked the run. You know, Josh Dacos was the obvious one to bring in, having Richmond, but didn't like his run to finish the year. And then for there to be 53 points between those two wasn't ideal. Hopefully, Amon can pay it back over the next few rounds. But yeah, it wasn't nice to have that on debut. And Lou, he's not the the definition of a hungry fantasy football player, is he? he just kind of plays his role at times and he doesn't really face too much.
00:13:21
Speaker
Yes. Yep. Unfortunately so. That's all right. We will move on. To the Pod Pod Challenge, yeah, special shout out to the Powerhouse who's leading the Pod Pod Challenge and has snuck into eighth overall, which is right in the tundra hunt, which is, yeah, really, really positive to see. Stevos, Devos, who's been in there all year pretty much, ranked at 15. And then Megatron, one, two, three, ranked 37. We do have 11 coaches in the top 100.
00:13:52
Speaker
And then another special shout-out, Holmesy's Burner, ranked 85. Go win the Tundra, son. That'll be good for the family. Just make sure that you are come give me a ride in the Tundra for using my name.
00:14:04
Speaker
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00:14:18
Speaker
But, boys, let's get stuck into the hot topics. And it is the end of the buy-arounds. we've now had two years in a row of five buy rounds spread over the five weeks. So I thought we'd do a little bit of an audit on how we've sort of gone and and the learnings from from this year. So, you know, Ami, I will go to you first. So where did you start the buy rounds at round 11? Where have you finished up and what are some of the things you're thinking about and learnings so that you can take in into to next year?
00:14:47
Speaker
So, the end of round 11, I was sitting six thousand and sixty ninth ah So, I've dropped 9,000 odd ranking spots. um Let's have a look at some reasons for that, mate.
00:15:05
Speaker
i would probably have to say that I... remember the start of the buys, um we had a whole bunch of rookies named and I thought, but this is the perfect opportunity to to dump all of the rookies off my bench that have made money, get rid of them, get in some new ones and get the money on field because I hadn't been doing that well of that throughout the rest of the season. So let's have a look at the fellows that I brought in.
00:15:35
Speaker
Jack Eisen, Charlie Banfield, Hugo Hawkehan, Tom Cochran, Jack Fitzgerald, Mitch Pahadsky. Like, unfortunately for me, I went into every round with about 21 players, so my spread was pretty good.
00:15:54
Speaker
ah But I had... a heap of players scoring 40s and 50s, which didn't help whatsoever towards my score. And then subsequently at half of those guys were getting dropped anyway. So that was a bit of an issue, but I guess compounded by the fact that I had Hugh McCluggage, Sam Flanders, Archie Roberts, um Jack Sinclair. So all of these guys that were also sideways trades. So
00:16:27
Speaker
Yeah, my trading through that period wasn't good. Admittedly, brought in LDU instead of Noah Anderson when I was comparing those two at the same price. Now there's about 250,000 between the two and I've missed out on about 400 points, I reckon, over the course of a few weeks. so look, that's a bit of a summary from me, mate. um I'm not sure how much to take away, but those rookies and the injuries um certainly hampered my ability to make any ground.
00:17:01
Speaker
Yeah, Lou, we were we were kind of talking pre-show about this, but it it seems like it's a learning every year that we'll say we'll learn from. But then, you know, history repeats itself. You get to round 7, 8, 9 every year and we think we've got to cash out these rookies. We've got to get those points on field.
00:17:18
Speaker
And then subsequently, more often than not, the rookies that we go down to you know, there's a reason that they're not getting games until that point in the season, right? Like more often than not, they're they're young kids that have maybe shown a little bit in the VFL, but they get ah a small taste and then they're back out of the side.
00:17:36
Speaker
You know, I'm thinking your Charlie Banfields, like those those types, we go down to them and then all of a sudden they're not playing or they they put up these 30s, 40s and 50s and we have, you know, the Faro's still getting it done, the Sarong's still getting it done, the Jagger's still getting it done.
00:17:52
Speaker
So, you know, we we say it every year, like Levi Ashcroft the year before just kept getting it done. Sometimes you just need to hold these rookies for a little bit longer, A, because they're going to make a little bit more cash.
00:18:02
Speaker
But if you can get an 80 or a 90 from these rookies in the buy rounds, not only does it shelter you from if some of your premiums don't fire, but if you have a week where all your premiums fire and you're getting some scores from these rookies, it's it's a really big way to make a jump.
00:18:17
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's something we really need to asterisk for next year and probably a learning that we should have had. But I think in particularly now that sort of we've got this 50% TOG rule, having these rookies who maybe you don't necessarily trade straight away but can come in as cover throughout the buy period can be even more important. So...
00:18:40
Speaker
Yeah, look, we do say it every single year that the rookies that are going to come through, um you know, after even like round six are not going to be as consistent as what you sort of get in round one. And I think to a certain extent that's true. At the same time, I think that we can also...
00:19:01
Speaker
In the last couple of years, we do get seduced a little bit by these mid-season draftees. Not every single one of them is a hit, but we do know that the ones that do manage to to fire off can really fire off. And I think um that's certainly a trap that I myself fell into where you know these guys that are getting debuts not long after they've been drafted mid-season, you sort of you've got all these high hopes and and I guess it's a little bit how you feel pre-round one or opening round when these guys are getting an opportunity immediately. You sort of, um you know, you do have high hopes for them just as what their coaches and their teammates do in the real stuff. So,
00:19:40
Speaker
yas it's Yeah, it's it's six of one, half a dozen of the other in a way. i think obviously the simple part to say is that you need to nail them, but at the same time, I think there's probably a few examples of mid-season draftees through that period who have been really good picks as well. so It's unfortunately unfortunate when you do miss some of them, but at the same time, I think there's a few um from that sample size, be it a Herbert or a Hall-Kahan who are really good picks as well. I think where I probably um didn't excel as much as is trading some of these guys that –
00:20:22
Speaker
We had the shits over about six weeks ago in like a Steel, a Dan Houston, a Tanner Broon, like these guys that were underperforming based on what they were and what we kind of expected. But at the same time, the cash was gone and we've moved to other guys that were maybe a comparable price or even...
00:20:44
Speaker
you know, as premiums. And I'm not sure that's worked out either. I think sometimes, you know, a player scoring eighty eighty five but not necessarily losing that cash, a bit like it is at the start of the year, um can can sometimes just be a safe little island until you can see, know, something on the horizon.
00:21:04
Speaker
Lou, didn't you just say before that you were thinking about trading Christian Protaka? Isn't he the exact example of what you're describing there? Yeah. I mean, in a way, but that's what I'm saying, right? Like it's, it's just that funny period of the mid season where these guys, you know, maybe haven't shown something all year and then, you know, they they pop up for for four weeks and you think that you can get that advantage from picking them and you're jumping off someone who has shown a bit, but they're in a bit of a luller form and,
00:21:39
Speaker
um you know, sometimes you're just swapping one for the other and it doesn't necessarily get you any further. And yeah I think it's, I think it's easy to take those risks when you've got three trades every single week, especially when you've got three trades, five weeks in a row. I think it's really easy to fall into a trap of going, Oh, you know, I'll bring in this guy because, you know, the upside could be there. And if it doesn't work, I'll just trade him out later on. you it yeah it's It's what we sort of preach and sometimes we don't always follow those rules that you know what you do in the buy rounds can come back and bite you a little bit later on. and um
00:22:17
Speaker
yeah You cultivate that with a couple of extra injuries that maybe you didn't anticipate and it can it can quickly come back. Yeah. Lift the tone, Holmesy. You've obviously had a great buy period, so come on. I will, but I just want to back onto that point, Louis.
00:22:33
Speaker
it's It's so hard, right? And I suppose that's why you know the coaches that are so good at this game consistently, like yeah it's it's so hard because for every Jack Steel that just doesn't turn it around, there's ah you know there's a Finn Callaghan that does or there's a Noel Anderson that does. And then all of a sudden, they're putting up 120s and you've just traded that out, right?
00:22:55
Speaker
So like Tanner Bruins probably not not in that category. Like it's it's pretty safe to say that he was over-performing. A bit like Adam Chera last year where he was over over-performing and all of a sudden he was at a price that was beyond what he was going to maintain.
00:23:10
Speaker
You just got to jump off that. Whereas a steal, you were hoping that he would turn it around and and regather the form that he'd he'd shown at the start of the year. And if he had of turned around and started putting up the 120s again, then you look like an idiot. He still had the role.
00:23:23
Speaker
Hindsight's 20-20. But yeah, it's, I mean, Darcy Cameron's one. I mean, I've owned him twice this year because I'm an idiot. But, you know, every week you you turn up, you watch the game thinking he's going to turn around and he doesn't.
00:23:35
Speaker
Christian Petrarca is much the same at the moment. um You know, Cosi Pickett outside of the the big 130 game, he was much the same, tagged, putting up these low scores. So it's, do you trade them? Do you not? It's...
00:23:48
Speaker
Yeah, it's tricky. harmy I just wanted to, yeah. So I have had a good buy round. So I started round 11 at 6,400 and ended up at 1,100. So sat in the same spot, you and me, Holmesy.
00:23:59
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. But I mean, we I've mentioned before that i I typically try to aim to halve my rank throughout the buy rounds. Anytime you have a really good... like ah a really good rank, ah sorry, a really good round, you can halve your rank.
00:24:13
Speaker
And if you can go beyond that over the buy rounds, then that shows that you've you've gone quite well. I think the difference between me and you, Harmi, was, and the traders are gonna hate this, but our team values were just very different when we were ranked the same going into the buy rounds.
00:24:29
Speaker
And it just does show if you can if you can get the cash early and put them into the into your players, it makes it a lot easier when all the carnage happens throughout the buyers like they did this year. So when this carnage happened, because you didn't have the team value in the cash, it probably meant that you needed to take a haircut here and there, go into these players like an LDU, for example, that you weren't necessarily keen on.
00:24:52
Speaker
Whereas the other coaches that have the team value, they're able to make the trades that they want. And then all of a sudden it sort of snowballs, right? So I've i've copped all the injuries that you have as well. But I suppose it it just meant that I was able to make the trades that I wanted to rather than needing to take a haircut. Although Carl Amon says hi. Does that make sense?
00:25:13
Speaker
Yeah, probably. I mean, I guess, yeah, mean, we're quite... um Yeah, I think that the point of picking the right people that are going to boost you up is, yeah, there's a bit of luck in it, but there's also some skill in selecting those people too, isn't there? i mean Yeah.
00:25:32
Speaker
I mean, i was I was late to the Dagoe train, but he's gone two tons for me back to back. So that's been handy. i went Jason Horne Francis four weeks ago when he wasn't that highly owned and he's he's put up some nice scores for me.
00:25:45
Speaker
and i got onto Isaac Heaney this week. I think I i got on Dawson, the maybe not the right week, but the the week after and captained him. Baz earlier in the year, Dacos at the right time. So there is there is the time to get on him, but...
00:26:01
Speaker
Yeah, I've made mistakes just like everyone. So it's just it'll be interesting to see this week after the buy round. So this first week is when we're going to see the biggest rank shift before everything starts to sort of settle down post buy. There's hope for us, Lou. There's hope, mate.
00:26:17
Speaker
and yeah I had a good buy round as well. I came up 10,000 ranks. So I wasn't too disappointed with that, but obviously it's not the, you know, the steps that what Holmesy would have taken from, you know, 6,500 to 1,100 either. You know, there's definitely points that are um sort of sparsely different between ranks, but yeah, I'm keen for the back half of this year. i think as teams complete,
00:26:44
Speaker
I think there's still room for coaches that aren't necessarily competing to be able to take some risks and and, you know, jump leaps and bounds based on, you know, what those risks sort of result in. You know, this there's certainly, as we know, there's,
00:27:00
Speaker
premiums who can be false premiums and you know there's there's guys that are going to come out of the woodwork that if you can identify nice and early can can certainly give you a good jump. um So it's always, you know for the coaches that aren't competing, it's always a really nice opportunity to to just take some risks and do some things that you wouldn't necessarily...
00:27:19
Speaker
um consider early on because you know you find it too risky I think it's a really good opportunity to you know teach yourself some lessons and figure some things out and um you know give yourself some confidence in terms of what you can identify All right, so on that, Lou, going into this week pre-trades before before you make your trades, are you going to be rolling with any rookies on field this week or have you got 22 premiums and you're just able to to fix up the injuries as you need to?
00:27:51
Speaker
Unfortunately... Well, actually, yes, I technically can. I'm probably going to hold one rookie on field this week, though. um And, yeah, that's just because Brent Daniels has kind of stitched me up with that injury. So that that's something that I want to...
00:28:08
Speaker
Stop the bleeding with technically I do have the cash to take my last rookie off the field this week and complete my side, but I would rather wait a week and complete the side with, you know, a little bit more gusto than, you know sort of selecting in the 800 K range. And that's probably because I'm a little bit gun shy based on some of these, these value picks that I've picked recently. So, yeah, For for me, ah I technically am there, but I think I'm going to hold off. I'm going to go for for the big dog in Messiah Wanganin Miller and Marshall from Banks and Daniel, so Banks being another poorer pick, ah rather than sort of you splitting that cash and going like ah like a Marshall and a Mills or or what have you. I've got 400k remaining just based on those trades, those still, so big upgrade coming next week.
00:29:02
Speaker
Yeah, I think a lot of coaches would have would have carried cash into this week knowing that they they wanted to get an Asire, maybe Baz. So really loading up for that. I mean, I have, and I've got injuries now, but I did have 22 premiums. i Didn't plan the best or, you know, took a bit of a punt, but I actually did have seven forwards, which meant, um you know, I'm actually one short in defense at the moment. And then you throw Malira, who I held um out, plus Daniels. So I'm in a a bit of a situation this week. i'm I'm a bit like you, Louis. I'm undecided whether I take Malira and Daniels to two other...
00:29:39
Speaker
middle of the range premiums that are still be good, but are not necessarily or whether I just play a rookie on field for the week, whether it be ah a Farrow against St Kilda or a Hall Cahan against the Eagles, and then really try to get rid of some of the other holes in my side, which would be a you know Darcy Cameron, a Petrarca.
00:29:58
Speaker
i'm still I've still got Houston. Shout out to his 120. How kissed was that? um But yeah, it's it's an interesting week of trades. I know there's lots of lots of good coaches out there that are ranked pretty highly that are rocking one, two, maybe even three rookies on side on their fields this week because they just went sideways throughout the buyers or they were forced to, you know, where these forced trades spend all their money to go up and and now they find themselves in a bit of trouble. But Harmi, where do you sit?
00:30:27
Speaker
um Yeah, look, I guess i was quite conscious through the bye period that I wanted to try and get all the rookies off and was working towards that.
00:30:38
Speaker
In theory, I would have had um all of them off, I guess, and that would have left Kobe McEacher as my lowest-priced player as my player.
00:30:51
Speaker
six But yeah, with Daniels, again, same as you guys, they're sort of throwing it around a little bit. And i'm at the moment, I'm tempted to just leave Farrow probably on field and um yeah, just move a couple of other things and trade out Daniels, obviously.
00:31:11
Speaker
Yeah, man, that 28 really hurt. It would have, yeah, even if it went a 50 or a 60, it would have made trades so much easier this week. But it is what it is. I mean, let's let's talk some of these popular players now that deserve a mention to trade out because it is that time of year and we've just mentioned the Jacks deals of the world.
00:31:29
Speaker
If a coach can get off a popular player at the right time, it's ah it's a way to to seriously jump ranks. I did it in my successful years with a number of players. So, i mean, let's talk the first one.
00:31:43
Speaker
Tom Phillips, my boy. We're not going to repeat that for the 83rd time, Louis. know how much you hate that. um I mean, let's talk Petrarca.
00:31:53
Speaker
So he's still 83% owned the top 1,000.
00:31:57
Speaker
ah Lost his full-time midfield role on the weekend. He had the, I think it was the roughly 50% centre bounces, played forward a lot. And we know what he's like. He's a very disinterested footballer and toxic almost when he's not in the perfect role that he wants with the team playing the way he wants.
00:32:16
Speaker
Louis, is he someone, I know we've got these injuries, but is he someone that we should look to trade off ASAP or is there the ability for him to turn it around and still go at that 90, which would be close to a top six forward?
00:32:30
Speaker
Yeah, this one's this one is a little bit tricky just based off the fact of, you know, how well we know that Petrarca can sort of play. And I've got no doubt that this week all the footy shows, the spotlight will be on Christian Petrarca and, you know, the form that the Suns are in but also that, you know, the currency that they gave up for him. And I really think that there is going to be just a magnifying glass that goes um onto that club and more specifically Petrarca. So, you know, as an umbrella to that, I would say that I think potentially um you could wait this week to see if that comes and maybe you can expect a a a bounce back from that. But in saying that, you know, there's,
00:33:20
Speaker
Last three, what is it like? He's averaging like 72 or something, which is just absolute bog average in terms Yeah, so that's terrible in terms of, you know, key forwards are doing that every single week. so I think potentially if you think that that's sort of what the Suns have got to give and that they've got some major issues and they have had those issues for a couple of weeks now, then...
00:33:48
Speaker
Yeah, maybe you do start looking at getting a little bit creative. Maybe it is, you know, a Murphy Reid and a nice winning side or a Tom Sparrow who's who's got that midfield role. Jordan Ngoi, who you jumped on a couple of weeks ago, Holmes, maybe has jumped up in some price. But, you know, this is...
00:34:07
Speaker
These are the teams that are competing for finals, you know. So these guys that are playing key roles in their side are only going to to keep ticking it over, in my opinion. So, you know, Suns, mate, potentially they're out of it, really, on the ladder. So...
00:34:23
Speaker
Maybe that's a long-winded answer to a question without ah you know a pure result. It's the the optimist in me that Petrarca is a better player than that. But yeah, though that that is probably the quintessential player type that you'd be looking at home did to to sort of trade out and see if you can get advantage on the rest of the comp because what what is he, 50% on minimum?
00:34:45
Speaker
Yeah, 83% in the top 1,000. So any any coach that's trying to compete up the top there, I don't know. you're right. If you've got a completed side, why don't yeah do you start swinging for the fences with some of these, you know maybe a key forward who's got a nice matchup or or ah you know ah couple of three-game nice matchups for for a midfielder or a high half forward where you can sort of just play the system a bit. you know If your side's completed and you're still ticking along nicely to get a 23rd premium,
00:35:16
Speaker
um maybe that's what you look at or maybe you just press accelerate on that 23rd premium and that's a forward so that you can loop Christian Petrarca. Yeah, I think I'm still giving one more at home, backs against the wall. I think you know Selby on on Zave's podcast or Hardball Gets, whatever it was, asked him, you know what would you be doing if you were the Gold Coast Suns? And and he thinks backs against the wall.
00:35:42
Speaker
um It'll be Anderson, Petrarca and Raoul in the centre bounces on the weekend, basically giving it it's got a but one last chance. yeah I think he will lift, but yeah, it's definitely a definitely a flag. But Harmi, what about is his teammate who, you know, 48% of the top 1,000 got tricked into paying 1.1 million for John Noble, the wingman.
00:36:04
Speaker
What are you doing with him? what's he Hold on, just give me one sec. What's he worth now? He's still priced at 106, I think, but he's lost a lost a lot of cash.
00:36:16
Speaker
What did he score, Holmesy? So he scored the 62. 62. Okay. last quarter. in the first. I guess I'll put it this way, Holmesy. I view them quite differently, and I'll tell you why. i think you said, can Petrarca be a top six forward for the rest of the season? of course he can. He could be 90-plus.
00:36:39
Speaker
He should be 90-plus. And difference between the two is Petrarca's price is $800,000. I don't have right there, but $805,000, is that what it was? $809,000.
00:36:51
Speaker
eight hundred and five thousand so so it was eight hundred and nine thousand People are talking about chasing value with people like Ron Marshall, $748,000. Sam Durham, $766,000. quite like Jason Horne Francis, $837,000. you're not making money the truck. $837,000 for JHF. That can't be right. $937,000?
00:37:09
Speaker
ja ad jasoncent horn france is eight thirty seven but you're not making money off eight thirty seven for jhf that can't be right nine thirty seven 937, yes. 937. Sorry, mate. 937. Okay. Sorry. Take that back. I guess my point is you're not making a bunch of money jumping off Petrarca and you're not getting a clear premium um in trading to Durham Marshall at this point.
00:37:39
Speaker
Okay. It's looking that way, but it's not clear that that's going to be the case. Noble priced it a mil It's going to cost you $50,000 to get to Naz. You're going to make money going to Holmes, Whitfield types. i think that um I think you cut your losses with Noble, whereas with Petrarca, I have some faith that he can bounce back and still be a top six forward.
00:38:06
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. No, that's fair. I mean, we're going to get into Rowan Marshall in a second, Harmi, but I mean, let's talk Brodie Grundy. 40, what is he? Sorry, I had it here. 42% owned in the top 1000 and for good reason. He's been pretty good for, you know, for large parts of the year, but...
Ruck Strategies and Key Matchups
00:38:24
Speaker
If we go back to round nine, so one ton since round eight, he had obviously had that 161 against Collingwood when Steen did his ACL and Darcy Cameron wasn't playing, but he's had a 54 against North and 80 against Geelong, which is the softest ruck matchup going around, 76 against the Saints, 97 against Port, and then an 80 on the weekend that he was lucky to get to in the final quarter. I don't think they're going to run with Laddams again.
00:38:52
Speaker
But with Marshall on the horizon, is there a world where coaches jump off Brodie Grundy when he's still worth a bit knowing that Sydney ah sydney are hunting a flag? They've shown to bring in Laddams. They've shown to rest Grundy. Is it is it a play?
00:39:10
Speaker
Well, Holmes, yeah I think that you and I would both agree that we're not looking at Grundy going out. It would be Darcy Cameron that would be going out. Well, yeah. um But not everyone's an idiot like us and has Darcy Cameron. It's funny. We said at the start of the buys, let's just wait and see on the rucks. No need to panic and trade them out.
00:39:30
Speaker
And here we are now at the end of the buys. And I think we've got some real options. I mean, English is a nice price. Marshall... I'd say that a lot of the competition's considering him as a trade-in. And then youve got Max, who's averaging 111 in his last three, and he's priced accordingly at a million. So i think you do have options now where I don't feel it was as easy um four weeks ago.
00:40:00
Speaker
With that said... I don't think that Sydney would admit that they would would consider that they made the right move bringing in Laddums on the weekend. Don't think it worked for them.
00:40:12
Speaker
ah And earlier in the season, Grundy's killing it. And I think they've it sort of looked like they were trying to ease him through. And now they've got him a little bit out of form. So I think we'll see a Brodie Grundy rucking as the sole ruck and scoring well this week. So I'm not really looking to trade off him personally.
00:40:32
Speaker
Yeah, Amadi Achilles injury, so he's done for the regular season. McLean kicks six in the VFL, so I dare say Laddams will get dropped and McLean will come in and he'll play that backup ruck role.
00:40:45
Speaker
Louis? It's a bit bizarre. It's sort of as you go into the latter half of the season, you usually see the rucks sort of excel in scoring as the game slows down a bit, but... We sort of identified a couple of weeks ago that nobody's really putting their hand up at all besides, you know, sort of Max Gorn, who's always been sort of the the goat ruck. And Luke Jackson certainly put his hands up most recently. Sean Darcy, my boy.
00:41:13
Speaker
Yeah. In a year of injury trades, I think that's one that I'm definitely going to be ducking. Well, yeah, it's it's interesting, Lou, just because of you know the teams that are competing for finals. They're not afraid to either rest the ruckman entirely like we see for Grundy or Jackson playing a second ruck in the side, like managing his minutes in game.
00:41:37
Speaker
um There was a bit of that on the weekend, like Darcy, Sean Darcy probably played a little bit more than I thought he would, especially in that sort of second half. They're more than happy to to rest Jackson forward and and spend more time on the bench because they're going so well.
00:41:51
Speaker
I mean, that's why there was an allure of Tristan Cherry, because we thought if anyone was going to be solo, it's him, but he's lost the role now because he can't jump in the center bounce. The one I'm keen on, and that's why i like a Darcy Cameron to Rowan Marshall this week to free up a Tim English in a couple of weeks' time, Lou. And I know you've already gone there.
00:42:11
Speaker
He's no issue of being solo. I think they just need his fitness and confidence back. Is he someone that potentially coaches should look to launch at over the next couple of weeks for a pretty serious discount? Yes, um over the next couple of weeks, oh you know maybe it does reward to be a little bit early. and you know He certainly hasn't been hurting me at the price that I paid for him, but he hasn't looked like the the Tim English which we've come to know ah to know over the the last couple of years either. so um yeah I think it's something that I would circle, but in terms of problems in the ruck, I know that many coaches for for weeks and weeks and weeks were looking to trade off like a McAndrew and stuff. but
00:42:53
Speaker
And yeah, um I'm just not sure too many are putting up their hands at the moment. Yeah, just just an interesting anomaly in the ruck, which I'm not sure we've seen um for a while. Usually this is when you sort of see them averaging 126 over the last sort of five games and, you know, multiple more rucks as so. So yeah, it's it's interesting.
00:43:18
Speaker
It's just because they're, I mean, the around the ground stoppages have clearly dropped with the lasso rule, but it's just the jumping rucks are able to get the hit out out into transition now, Lou. Like they're not wrestling and dropping it at their feet anymore for Tristan Cherry to just tackle, tackle, tackle because someone's jumping over the top and and getting it out into space and away they go. So it's definitely something to to ponder next year. We say it every year, Max is going to be another year older. Surely he can't keep going the way that he does, but We even saw at times this year him having a bit of ah a ruck share. Let's quickly go through. Sorry, just just is so Max's score source, is that just disposals mostly? They just love to give it to him?
00:43:59
Speaker
he's He's a marking ruckman, isn't he? And he's been kicking goals, but ah it'd be interesting to see what his hit out count is now compared to what it was at the the same point last year. I haven't got that data in front of me, but he's still, he's, he's a, he's the hybrid, right? He can jump, but he can also still get around the ground. So I'm, I'm sort of looking at it now. Nothing stands out. Like probably the main one is that his tongue is lower than what it is usually, but,
00:44:24
Speaker
um Yeah, I think ma mainly it's just that Melbourne like to give him the footy. you know, he's probably a minimum of 20 disposals each time and you add 30 hit outs, which seems to be a minimum for him most weeks anyway. that That's probably where he's getting to 110. But outside of that, i'm I'm not sure he's excelling either. So, yeah, it's maybe maybe it's just moving on with these new ruck rules, Holmesy. I think you may have nailed it there.
00:44:53
Speaker
Let's just quickly talk some targets. And I dare say with the Daniels injury and and some of the other, like if coaches are still holding Sinclair, if they're still stuck with Roberts or anything like that, it's it's pretty clear we're going to be probably trading in the defensive line and the forward line this week. with I mean, other podcasts have been saying it, but I think it it holds true that with all these defenders dropping off, there's a pretty clear sort of top four being Nassaya, the GWS boys, and then a ah Max Holmes.
00:45:23
Speaker
Is there any other sort of options that tickle your fancy, Lou, if coaches aren't able to get all the way up to Nassai or they're looking to do the double fix-up, which means they might have to shop in some other areas?
00:45:35
Speaker
Look, I still like Newman. I've liked Newman pretty much since before opening round, to be honest. He's got Richmond this week. He's he's in a bit of a vein of form as well, going over 100 at the moment. So I think he's a cheapie that...
00:45:52
Speaker
Potentially you can pick up at 8.86. Daniel is one that is is probably proving us all wrong based on last year a little bit. He's been just... Yeah, he's he's just absolutely everywhere. Down back at the moment for North. So...
00:46:10
Speaker
I don't know about you, Holmesy. That one's probably one that's tempting me a little bit just with his potential ceiling and what what we sort of know that um that the the ruse defenders can sort of put up when they when they get a run on. And that fixture, Port Adelaide, Collingwood, Melbourne, St. Kilda, and the Bulldogs a week after that is is is pretty pretty juicy, don't you think?
00:46:34
Speaker
Yep. And yeah, so the Marrera's Magic scheduled strength. So North Melbourne have the second easiest run to finish the year. They put Adelaide's nice for defenders this week. They have Saints, which is good. Hawthorne have been good. Bulldogs have been very good. Even St Kilda. So North and Carlton have the sort of best run, which the Nick Newman pick, I i don't hate that as well, um especially having the Richmond matchup this week.
00:46:58
Speaker
Harmi, Cal Wilkie is someone that really excites me now that Jack Sinclair's out for the year. We do know that Nassai has been spending a lot of time back there, but they sort of wax and and give the ball to each other. um What have we got for for Wilkie? So Essendon this week's green, Port Adelaide, Geelong, then into north, which is a bit tougher. So the run's pretty neutral, but you know outside of the injured game and a couple of random tags, he's been he's been pretty good this year.
00:47:26
Speaker
Yeah, look, i um I said to someone the other day, Wilkie is worth ah a bit of a look because, i mean, Sinclair going out, a key user coming out of their back line, somebody that like the ball in their hands, and there's a void there. I don't think that Wilkie is...
00:47:43
Speaker
he' is going to get any worse. he's in He's had a very good season apart from that that game where he got the back issue. So, yeah, I think he's one that people should should be looking at. You can probably throw a couple of other names out here if you like, mate. like I think that Naz is the obvious trade-in for the week with his ownership and what he should do for the rest of the season. But you also got Callum Mills. He might be worth a look as well. I really... NBA's on the weekend. We do love... We dub midfielder Callum Mills, yeah.
00:48:15
Speaker
Geordie's man. Yeah, Geordie's man. um Yeah, look, Josh Dacos could also be worth a look at his price. I mean, he's lost he's lost money for the season and um he's somebody that we were talking about being in top six calculations going into the season.
00:48:36
Speaker
It's just that col with the Collingwood defence has been a bit up and down, I think, haven't they? So, yeah, there's a few other names. Yeah, i mean Josh Dacos is just the run. It's just the run for Josh Dacos. He's good, don't get me wrong. But if we talk, he's got the second hardest run to finish the year. Gold Coast, North, Carlton and Adelaide are all red.
00:48:57
Speaker
um you know Gold Coast, I thought, were actually a green matchup, but they've been quite restrictive over the last five. Then Geelong, West Coast, neutral before Hawks and then Brisbane. So it's a pretty tough run to finish for for Josh. But yeah, if you if you got on him last week for the 120, you'd be very happy. And he did have two tons before that, Luke.
00:49:15
Speaker
I think as well Callum Mills is one that I'm a little bit concerned about. i love the role change on the weekend, but then I sort of look and I see ah Isaac Heaney in that midfield. I see Chad Warner in that midfield. I see Errol Goulden building into that midfield, and these are all guys that – Certainly over the last couple of weeks, Barr, Errol Goulden are going 100, 105 plus every single week. So I do wonder how consistent that can be um as well, especially when you're relying a little bit on Brodie Grundy to to put up some nice numbers too. so maybe that's um going to be a little bit close to that 90, 95 awkward range where he's probably priced at too.
00:49:58
Speaker
Now, I did say that we weren't really going to touch on the midfielders, but Harmi, just really quickly, could you jump straight into Baz this week playing Brisbane with the 140 break even if you traded him out? Or do you think it's best to wait a week being Thursday night and wait to see how he comes back?
00:50:13
Speaker
probably You probably are best to wait, but I mean, he's a gun and no one will really own him currently. So he might be a nice point of difference for you this week. i mean, he's the sort of player that you're trying to get to, isn't he? Like, yeah, Shizel Dacos, Naz and, yeah, Bailey Smith. i mean, they're probably the best four players you would want at this point of the season, but...
00:50:37
Speaker
Look, if you can't get there because he's super expensive, there ah there are a heap of options that are potentially underpriced in that midfield. I think you should be having a look at as well.
00:50:50
Speaker
Yep, I'll go over more of those with Selby on Thursday night or Wednesday night. Whenever we record in the forward line, obviously, Sheasel, tier above, but everyone's got him. Dugowie, now priced at 101, is expensive, but just keeps getting it done and should be a top six forward to finish the year. JHF, much the same, priced at 99.
00:51:11
Speaker
Chad Warner now priced at 96, Lou. I'm not sure I'd have confidence paying that for him considering that's above his career average, but you can't argue the form. Maybe I'm a bit biased, but do you like Chad Warner?
00:51:23
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. I think if you've got the cash to spend there, that's it's still not overs yet, I think. And as Sydney sort of have a chip on their shoulder at the moment charging towards finals that he can that he can hold that average, he's underperformed to start the year as well. So, um yeah, I'd still be confident in paying 96 for that.
00:51:44
Speaker
So let's talk it then, Harmi. So Rowan Marshall priced at 79. We know what he has done over the last few years. What was it? Back half of last year, I think it was 115 once he got going.
00:51:56
Speaker
He was the highest averaging player in 2017. Sorry, in I think i want to say, with average and then a before that Perennially has been a fantasy gun.
00:52:09
Speaker
he he wants to get paid. He wants to get traded. It's the perfect opportunity to play solo ruck that he hasn't had all year. The only sort of flag is that he comes up against your mob who just absolutely blanket the rucks for some unknown reason. I don't know how they do it, but it is is it as simple as just trading in Rowan Marshall this week, whether it be in the rucks or in the forward line?
00:52:31
Speaker
Well, let's put it this way, you could wait week because his break even is 83. If he goes 110, he's not going to get away from you.
00:52:43
Speaker
um You're probably going to get at least five weeks out of him from what the media reports are about TDK. So yes, you could definitely wait.
00:52:55
Speaker
However, I would say that most of the competition is going to bring him in this week, either in the ruck line or most likely as a forward. And if he does score well, you'll be a bit disappointed. So
00:53:11
Speaker
he's ah he is attractive for a range of reasons. The only thing that's going to put people off is if his shoulder isn't really 100% based on Coppola-Knock in his last game he played before the bye-bye.
00:53:25
Speaker
Now, Louis, you have put in that Sweet will kill him next week. And I do i do agree from a hit-out perspective, but Rowan Marshall's never been a hit-out guy, has he? He wasn't one of the hit-outs last year. oh Yeah, I think that'll be an interesting match-up. I think it'll be probably tighter than what people think, but...
00:53:43
Speaker
Yeah, Rowan Marshall is one where sometimes I've thought that the matchup isn't there for him and he goes 142. So he's an absolute pig pig of a ruckman. And at that price, so I really don't think that you you're going to go wrong there as a sole ruckman. ah I think that might be the best buy this week, personally, in terms of fantasy.
00:54:05
Speaker
Yeah, and and one one last flag is he did have that shoulder injury in the last game, but I don't believe he was on the injury report this week. Yeah, we love him. I dare say a lot will trade into him. Last one, Lou, before we go to the questions. Are you ready to put your sword down on Sam Durham, or do you think now he's priced at 81 that he might be getting up there in price? Yeah, look, since i sort of said I can't believe that you're ah that you've got Sam Durham, he's he's only averaged 115, which i would have...
00:54:36
Speaker
like to see a little bit north of that. see ah Looking at the averages here, and Bailey Smith's going 119. So he he's ah he's a full four points above that at the moment. So, um yeah, I think he can probably wait a week. He's been unreal. like Fair play. Yeah, and his points per minute have been through the roof. off I really regret staring you off about that because I had no conviction whatsoever. I just wanted to make fun of you for no reason at all. But, um yeah, he's just gone absolutely nuts. So, you maybe I'll take credit for that one. What? What could have been him not getting injured in the first four minutes of that Richmond game when he was already flying?
00:55:24
Speaker
Sometimes you get unlucky in this game, but yeah, he he keeps getting it done. We were worried with, well, not worried, but there was concerns that with Parrish and Caldwell coming back, like what does that look like for him? But he's he's the number one mid in that side and he's very, very hungry. So yeah, i I wouldn't talk coaches out of going there this week at 760K. I think you know he' there's every chance that he nudges the top six forwards. And um if you if you are ending up with seven forwards as a 23rd premium later on in the year, then yeah, he's a very good option. All right, let's get stuck into the questions. First one is from Henza360. G'day, lads.
00:56:03
Speaker
Firstly, they must be adding up Holmes' hero scores wrong if he's jumped from 20K to 1K in a few weeks. Yeah, it wasn't quite 20K. I was out at 20K after about round four or five, I think, but as we mentioned, around 6K to start the buys.
00:56:17
Speaker
I have the opportunity to get Naz and Baz this week. However, at the moment, I'm opting to save money and going Rowan Marshall instead. Thoughts? Who'd I go to? Louis, you go.
00:56:30
Speaker
Oh, you can get both. Spend the money. Come Naz and Baz in one week. That sounds delicious. Certainly Naz against the Bombers, I think, should have a massive one. But Bailey Smith on a Thursday night, I think you're immune to the late out there. And I don't know. I think he just rocks up for those big games where there's lots of eyes on him. So...
00:56:55
Speaker
Personally, I think I'd pay up both unless, of course, you think that you need to to stash some cash away for the following week. But if you've got a completed team, I think go for it.
00:57:07
Speaker
Yeah, i think I think you just get them, to be fair. like We've seen what what's happened when coaches have carried cash over all throughout the year with these injuries. Sometimes if you've got the cash there, you just spend it. and yep there's it you know There's every chance Baz comes back and and puts up a 90 or a low ton because he's a bit rusty and and it's a tougher game against Brisbane. and you might feel a little bit of regret, but then there's every chance he puts up a monster and and away you go. So, yeah, I'd probably just lock away the two top guys given the chance. You're not sure when that chance will come again. Harmi, this one is from Bondsville Wizard. Hey, lads, can I play HHK on field against the Eagles and trade Cameron to Marshall and Laird to Wang?
00:57:48
Speaker
Or does he do the two rookies up to get Wilkie to be full primo this week? So this is what we kind of spoke about is do you do you play the rookie on field and then get the two better players or do you take the haircut on another premium to make sure that there's no rookies on field? What do you think?
00:58:07
Speaker
ah Look, I do like the Cameron to Marshall lead to Messiah. I guess just with Hulk Harner, there's a chance that he scores 50. Like, that is the truth.
00:58:21
Speaker
But I think um you'd be willing to take the risk and and get those two guys that you like and Marshall and Wang would probably be pretty comfortable with that. yeah Yeah, I'd agree with that. I mean, I'm considering something similar with Farrow, but I think the Farrow role is probably safer than a Hugo Hall-Cahan playing Saints under the lid, I'm guessing, at Marvel or at the MCG versus Adelaide playing West Coast, which isn't actually a tough matchup for defenders. Sorry, is a tough matchup for defenders because they don't have to defend too much and they can just get it forward. So,
00:58:56
Speaker
Ah, this one's this one's tricky. I'll chat to during the week, Bontz. But yeah, I think I'd probably, I personally, I think I'd still go HHK on field to get Wang and Marshall.
00:59:07
Speaker
Louis, this one is from Max Stoneman. Hey, lads. Late submission for me, but I'm actually sitting number 54. Unreal. Louis, no pressure. So he's looking at Cameron and Daniels for Marshall and Durham or Daniels and Cook for Bont and Lake. So he does he prioritize the best mid-22 player or does he play around with some of the forwards?
00:59:33
Speaker
Daniels being Brent Daniels, I presume. So oh i think this is probably an easy choice. Personally, I think Cameron and Romar, Romar with the sole ruck duties over the next month should be a clear upgrade um if he sort of does the form that we expect over the last couple of years. And And Daniels won't be playing. I think Durham, you know, based on his 115 average of the last three, he's been absolutely smashing it. And as we said before, his points per minute just prove how much of a fantasy jet he is.
01:00:12
Speaker
I think I strongly lead lean towards option one. um you know Daniels to Bond, I think bot Bond's probably a ah good choice, obviously. But um you know Cook to Lake, is is that a bit of a downgrade? ah Maybe they're not on your field. But you know personally, I'm probably looking at option one there.
01:00:35
Speaker
Yeah, you'd have to say mar if Marshall's good to go, which he should be, Marshall and Durham are probably the two best trading options for the week. So why wouldn't you be going for that?
01:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, given Daniels is in both trade scenarios, where you're getting the points is accumulatively over the top two. um Yeah, I think that's an easy decision. He's ranked 54. Holmesy, you are the goat on the podcast. Where where are you leaning there for for Max Stoneman?
01:01:06
Speaker
I wouldn't be bringing in Bont this week with the Sydney matchup. um There's every chance that he's okay, but i'm if I'm a betting man, they're definitely putting time into him. So if he puts up a ceiling, then fair play to him, but I i'd think it's probably going to fall closer to that 90, low 100 mark. So I'd be going the other option, I think, personally, and then looking at the top eight mid the week after.
01:01:30
Speaker
Harmi, this one is from Forrest. He's got came Cameron and Daniels out. He's thinking English and Wilkie or Marshall and Holmes.
01:01:44
Speaker
Yeah, that's tough. Marshall Holmes. Marshall Holmes. I'm sort of in a similar position and Marshall and Holmes was the first trade that I went to for the week. I've seen tinkering around, but I think that's the way that I would prefer to go there.
01:02:03
Speaker
yeah i sometimess I disgustingly disrespect Callum Wilkie um on another level. like He's such a good player. He averages so well in fantasy football, but for some reason I just cannot get around him.
01:02:18
Speaker
um But even so, I think that's a nice choice. I love Wilkie. He's the battler in all of us, Louis. He was the bloke that didn't get drafted early, had to go play in the VFL, perfect his craft, come in, hasn't missed a game since.
01:02:34
Speaker
Come on, mate. What's wrong with you? Oh, there's it's nothing about the personality. I love him as a footballer. It's just this is something that just gives me the ick in fantasy. Yeah, nah, fair enough. ah It is very filthy when the the Saints boys chip around in those last quarters and they they put up those 50-point quarters. But I suppose as a fantasy owner, you're...
01:02:55
Speaker
You love it, right? All right, Lou, finish this off. This is the last one from Sean. Hey, lads, are track or noble more urgent trade-outs over Farrow? So he currently has seven primo forwards, which means he can loop track with Bolton.
01:03:09
Speaker
But if he trades Farrow or noble, he can get him to Nassaya, Wanganeen, Millerer. So... What do you think there? So he's he's not really losing points off field there, is he? So i think based on this week's matchup against the Bombers, I'd probably look at bringing in Nassai Wanganenmiller and...
01:03:30
Speaker
Um, I'm going to, I'm going to give Noble a pass just for this week, um, based on the ceiling and his consistency over a number of weeks, but I won't give track the same, um, the same pass. And given that you've got seven forwards, I think it only makes sense that you go Christian Petrarca to Messiah Wanganin Miller. or Do we, do we follow that, um,
01:03:58
Speaker
Yeah, it's hard to see without his team and whether that gives him too many defenders. But yeah, you've got to get Naz this week. So um if that means... If you can loot Bolton and Petrarca, I'd be doing that 100% because Bolton's every chance to put up a decent score against the Giants. They're they're not great at the moment. So yeah, I'd be getting Nassaya. But boys, that is going to wrap us up. It's been another big episode. As usual, thank you for for jumping on. Harmi,
01:04:28
Speaker
No, I was getting you to do the the listener sign-offs. You know, when you were humming, you were the number one coach on the pod.
Conclusion and Sign-Off
01:04:34
Speaker
I then took it away from you thinking that Geordie was going to take over, but unfortunately he is now traveling the world and his fantasy team's suffering. So we're going to go to our pod pod staple, Louis, as once again, we never know whether this is going to be the last pod we see you because, you know, you've got missing out Bush or whatever. So give the listeners a bit of a sign-off.
01:04:54
Speaker
Yeah, well, I am going out bush this weekend, so take my take advice next week with a grain of salt. But um as you said at the top of the podcast, Holmesy, this is going to be a week of sink or swim. um Whether or not coaches have been sidewaysing and sort of you know hiding what their teams may actually look like as they come out into the best 22 season.
01:05:19
Speaker
So even for those who think they're doing well or even if they're doing poorly, just let let it settle for this week. Have a look at where you're at and um and I think you can you can sort of reassess next week where you actually may be and then you can can really set sail towards sort of what your goals are for the year. So yeah.
01:05:41
Speaker
And it's an exciting time coming outside of the buys and it's probably still uncharted territory for for a lot a lot of coaches where where you know we're coming out of five buy rounds of three trades and and new new rules. And um yeah, it's all a bit chaotic at the moment. So um yeah, onwards and upwards. And hopefully we can help guide you towards where you want to go for the rest of the year.
01:06:09
Speaker
Very wise words that there, Louis. Make sure you're following us on X at PodPod AFL. I'm at Holmes is Heroes. Make sure you are subscribed to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your content.
01:06:23
Speaker
As always, for Morera's Magic in-season members, I'll be back on either Wednesday or Thursday with Selby to record our strategy podcast post-teams. Harmy, Louis, have a good weekend.
01:06:36
Speaker
We'll be back this time next week to review round 16 as we continue to launch in the back end of the year. Bye. Bye.