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Where is Harmey??! | Strategy Round Table | Players of Interest #PODPOD
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Transcript
Introduction & AFL Fantasy Challenges
00:00:19
Holmesy
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod brought to you by Marrera's Magic. I'm your host Holmesy, three-time top 10 finisher and twice runner-up in AFL Fantasy Classic. The third of the buy-arounds are now behind us. It was a another weekend of forced premium injuries as but has been the tale of the season so far.
00:00:39
Holmesy
We just keep having to go sideways and up on these players that we didn't think we'd have to with our planning, but that's just the season that it's been. That real period now, the next sort of six to eight weeks is going to be a real grind, but that's where we see the best fantasy coaches come out the other end and really shoot up towards the back end of the year.
00:00:59
Holmesy
We don't have John Harmy tonight, which we'll get to in a little bit. But as always, we do have our perennial top 1K finisher, Louis. And um um I'm going to be honest, man. i'm I'm really excited to see how going find yourself in the top 1,000 to finish off the year, mate.
00:01:13
Holmesy
It's very consistent. You're a long way back, but I'm sure you're going to find a way.
00:01:16
Lew
ah Yeah, I'm glad you haven't given up hope. Yeah, it's, do you know what it's goingnna It's going to be interesting. It's going to be fun trying to ah to pull back as many ranks as as possible.
00:01:30
Lew
I'm not sure the top one K is within my sights yet, but ah gee, it would be nice to get into less than five digits. So, yeah.
Buy Week Structure Preferences
00:01:38
Lew
uh that's okay um looking forward to yeah the next sort of period in fantasy it's it's certainly been a little bit interesting this five week buy period i don't know about you boys but um i don't know if i love it like it just it does tend to drag on a little bit with the three trades every week i think i prefer back when it was um just over a couple of weeks and there was a
00:02:01
Lew
just a little bit more on the line in terms of how you would structure up your, you know, your best 21 or best 22 each week. It feels like it's a little bit more, ah you know, easy.
00:02:13
Holmesy
Is that because, Louis, you got more trades? And it was this time last year where you went on your your bushwalk and you came back and you didn't really say too much and then Tim Kelly was in and all sorts of stuff.
00:02:24
Lew
ah
00:02:25
Holmesy
Is it is it that's there's too many trades that you can't trust yourself or...?
00:02:29
Lew
I think Tim Kelly was after a Barossa trip actually, so that would explain a lot. But ah no, I just, I don't know. I think even despite all these injuries, I'm sort of looking at my side. I'm getting really close to finishing it. And, you know, it's on the back of probably 15 trades across a handful of weeks. I think it really makes things um quite convenient in a way.
00:02:52
Holmesy
Yeah, no, would agree. And we aren't flying by any means. But when you've got coaches up the top that are consistently putting up 2,000, 2,100, even close to 2,200 in a buy-around shows that, yeah, it is quite easy if you get on top of it early in the season to have sides complete pretty early on in the season, which, yeah, might not be the best for the game moving forward.
00:03:14
Holmesy
But that's not for us to decide.
00:03:17
Lew
And in saying all that, what I sort of mean by it is that I think I'm looking okay, but, you know, I'm kind of doing quite poorly. So, you know, when i juxtapose that to to seasons previous, I sort of look at those buy rounds and maybe that's where the difference lies. And certainly some of those early injuries where coaches may have escaped them. I'm not sure anybody did, but, you know, some have had it better than others. um Yeah, just it's really interesting.
00:03:44
Holmesy
Now, Jordy, you are with us again tonight, which is good. And we haven't had to do this for a while. It's actually been, you know, a method we we used to have to use on Dossie back in the day with some of his group chat shenanigans. But what happened to you on Thursday night? do you want to explain that to the listeners?
Player Highlights & Trade Dissatisfaction
00:04:04
JORDAN DSENA
Well, I got a bit excited on Jordan Dawson. I think he kicked, what, two goals in a couple of minutes. And I just... Yeah, I just said Dawson is on fire. And I guess, Holmes, I've got a bit of a record of mozzing players like zack bat like Louis Zach Bailey and a few other guys. Anyway, yeah, I didn't realize you had him VC. So i can understand why I just needed to give me, ah you know, probably, was it 30 minutes or something? Just a bit of silence.
00:04:34
JORDAN DSENA
And then once he was on 100, I had no ah doubt he would be on 103 at halftime. And once he got to that, um yeah, I was able to come back in. So, yeah, it's something new that I haven't experienced. But, um yeah, I'm glad that – I'm glad he's immune to the Moz, Dawson.
00:04:51
Holmesy
he He is immune to the Moz. I was actually more worried for your safety, Jordy, because there's nothing Louie hates more than the Moz in the group chat.
00:05:02
Holmesy
And he's actually, it's in his contract that I need to remove you from the group chat so that he doesn't go over and find you in Adelaide and and really let you know about it.
00:05:11
JORDAN DSENA
He almost... That's what he said.
00:05:13
Holmesy
So just keep that in mind.
00:05:14
Holmesy
Yeah, he does.
00:05:15
JORDAN DSENA
That's what he said as well.
00:05:16
JORDAN DSENA
He put me on notice.
00:05:18
Holmesy
He does hate those Mozs.
00:05:19
Lew
I know where you are on Saturday mornings.
00:05:22
Holmesy
Now, Louis, did mention off the top, there is no John Harmy tonight. Can you can you just confirm to the listeners as to why you think he hasn't fronted up for the podcast this week?
00:05:22
JORDAN DSENA
Exactly.
00:05:33
Lew
Yeah, John has cracked the shits because I have convinced him to trade in Tommy Cochran. Unfortunately, I followed that same advice, but it wasn't a happy man on the weekend. And yeah, he's one that will let you know about it when it doesn't come off. So he's um he's had a sulk tonight and fortunately couldn't be on the podcast.
00:05:56
Holmesy
Not only that, wasn't it that the change of trades mid-round as well? So once Roberts went down, he pivoted to to carry more cash into next week, which actually included the the double downgrade with Tommy Crocken.
00:06:08
Holmesy
I thought he's just he's had enough of the podcast because we we basically just ruined his season by convincing him to pay up 120 for Archie Roberts.
00:06:09
JORDAN DSENA
Yep.
00:06:17
Holmesy
And I'm not sure he got a score above 80 before he got injured. So Harmi, we're sorry, mate, but you can come back to us. You don't have to just you know spit the dummy.
00:06:28
Holmesy
Anyway, we'll have him back.
00:06:28
JORDAN DSENA
Craziness.
00:06:30
Holmesy
Let's get into the the round that was. Louis, are you starting us off this week?
00:06:36
Lew
Oh, am I? Bugger. Let's see, this is why I wish Harmy was on the podcast. that would have had another extra minute. But scored the 1906, so it brings me up 1,000 ranks. I'm back into 20,000, so week-to-week prospect at the moment.
00:06:52
Lew
The state of pick of the week, definitely going to Dawson, who I've owned the last couple of weeks now. 156 VC was just such a nice way to to start the weekend. So i was very thrilled about that. um And then the Dossie pick of the week, it's certainly going to have to go to Tanner Bruin. One guy I've been trying to get out of my side over the last couple of weeks, but just can't really warrant it with some of these more fattened rookies that aren't putting up amazing scores either. So he's been a roller coaster of a ride this year, but I think he's going to be one that will be cannoned out quite shortly.
00:07:32
Holmesy
Yeah, it does really you know highlight the value of of needing to trade out these mid-prices at the top, right? So just, you know, they're mid-prices for a reason and understanding that they probably did overperform to to get to the price they were, whether it be just a rich vein of form or they got ah an extended role for a certain period of time. But if you if you do miss that particular point, then they can start to undo a lot of the hard work that got them up there in the first place. We see we saw that with Dan Houston as well. So,
00:08:01
Holmesy
Yeah, unfortunately, Broon has to go now. And especially if you're heavy in the round 16 by, I think it's, we'll talk about it in strategy chat, but not the worst thing to get ahead of that. Jordy, you must be flying this week after your boy, Will Ashcroft, career best game, hey?
00:08:17
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, a bit of a better week. 1944, the rain came in 2,000 spots, so in 9,876. So under the 10K, which is nice to see, hopefully keep pushing.
00:08:27
Lew
Thank you.
00:08:30
JORDAN DSENA
But yeah, the stator pick has to be Will Ashcroft for a 152. I was not expecting a big score like that. I was just hoping for 100. think in the group chat in the morning, I gave him a razz up and I said, I want 130 today.
00:08:44
JORDAN DSENA
And he's come out and done 152. And I think we're seeing against Richmond, like last week was Heaney, 163. Merritt was them this week.
00:08:55
JORDAN DSENA
ashka farm fifty two got them this week So it's one of those things of like, you pretty much have to go Sheasel. I think he did. What did you do last year? 186. Does that mean they put retention into him?
00:09:10
JORDAN DSENA
Anyway, what we're seeing is we're seeing some big ceiling scores against Richmond. So very happy with Ashcroft. And he's his average is 99 now. So he's on the buy this week, obviously.
00:09:22
JORDAN DSENA
So one I can just keep now, I think, as an M8. I think he'll be there for me, hopefully for the rest of the year.
00:09:27
Holmesy
You don't trade him?
00:09:28
Holmesy
You don't trade him?
00:09:28
JORDAN DSENA
Nah.
00:09:29
Holmesy
40-odd percent CBAs playing half forward?
00:09:29
JORDAN DSENA
I'm not going to trade him now.
00:09:30
JORDAN DSENA
Nah.
00:09:33
JORDAN DSENA
Nah. I think he's... I'm happy with him. And mate, I think he's not as... It doesn't look like he's as banged up as he was a few weeks ago. There's no tape on his knee. So hopefully Brisbane can turn it around. So... And the buyer will freshen him up.
00:09:47
Holmesy
You heard that, Louis. He's not allowed to complain in the group chat now if Will Ashkoff doesn't get the job done back half of the year. All right?
00:09:47
JORDAN DSENA
Um...
00:09:55
Lew
It's been a lot of Will Ashkoff commentary all year from Geordie, but we're all for it he is He went out on a limb, went for the pod pick over Sam Walsh, and ah so far it's it's definitely paid dividends.
00:09:58
JORDAN DSENA
It has. It has.
00:10:08
Holmesy
It's just good coaching, Geordie. Don't have a change, mate. It's good coaching.
Trade Strategies & Player Evaluations
00:10:12
JORDAN DSENA
Not too bad. I mean, Walsh hasn't been – Walsh has was okay at the start of the year, to be honest. I guess it's just timing of these guys, right? Anyway, dossie pick. I'll give it to Petrarca.
00:10:23
JORDAN DSENA
Your boy, Holmesy, traded him in. Got the tag, got the 70, got the tag from Mullin. We probably should have thought that in opening round, he absolutely killed Geelong. Like, he got 10 coaches' votes.
00:10:36
JORDAN DSENA
kicked all those goals. So like, i mean, as soon as it went to us, oh yeah, Mullen, like he's going to go to Petrarca. Anyway, he he gets the dossie pick and now he's sort of, we're a bit worried maybe with his forward line. So, yep.
00:10:49
Holmesy
Yeah, I think it's a ah massive red flag for this Gold Coast team. I kind of spoke with Selby on on his podcast on last Thursday about just the difficulties that they're having with that midfield and Man, you just have to look at what Melbourne's doing.
00:11:04
Holmesy
No Petrarca, no Oliver. And now, once again, you're seeing a midfield that's struggling to to find that unity and connection. that I think they're ranked 18th in clearance with the star-studded midfield that they have with Rao being it a clearance specialist and and Anderson and Petrarca.
00:11:15
Lew
Okay.
00:11:20
Holmesy
So I dare say something's going to change up there. But... Yeah, i think probably still going to be a top six forward, but yeah, it doesn't necessarily help us at the moment. What did I... So i had the 2002 this week, which definitely off the back of a Jordan Dawson VC helped, but feel like the squad's in it a relatively good spot. So hopefully I can keep climbing up. That was up another thousand odd ranks into 2,632.
00:11:48
Holmesy
my Stato pick of the week. I'm just going to shout out two forward options that are relatively unique for me, that being a Durham 97 and a Warner 100 in a year that...
00:11:59
Lew
Terum?
00:12:00
Holmesy
Durham, my boy. In a year where the forwards have been up and down and and they're a bit of a nervous zone at times, to get those scores from those players off the back of last week as well um definitely has helped my side. and They're both on the buy this week, but I don't think I'll trade sorry either of those.
00:12:00
JORDAN DSENA
Mm-hmm.
00:12:18
Holmesy
Although i might consider it next week as i'm I'm considering a Brent Daniels, which once again means I'd have seven forwards in my side. but Yeah, definitely happy with those two picks. My dossie pick of the week, Finn Callaghan, 82.
00:12:32
Holmesy
Definitely got a bit of attention around stoppages from... um um Not Windhager. Who's the other one that I'm thinking of? Jordy?
00:12:39
JORDAN DSENA
Garcia. garcia
00:12:40
Holmesy
Garcia, sorry. Yep. And outside of a ah patch in that third quarter, he was pretty much unsighted, getting some handballs in the contest, but he's not a real fantasy guy at the moment. So he'll probably need to be someone I look at at some stage, but maybe becomes that sort of M9 if I can swing it that way. But definitely, yeah, not impressed on the weekend.
00:13:01
Holmesy
Let's do a
Pod Challenge Update
00:13:02
Holmesy
quick update on the Pod Pod Challenge. So we have 13 coaches now in the top 100. So that's up from 11 last week, which is really good to see. Massive shout out to the powerhouse that has moved into 10th overall.
00:13:15
Holmesy
So yeah, really cheering on you and in your push towards the tundra. We still have Steve-O's Devos at rank 20 and then LJ Hooker's, great name, ranked 28. So really positive as always to see the Pod Pod Challenge members up there.
00:13:32
Holmesy
And a reminder that the winner of the Pod Pod Challenge will receive a custom AFL Fantasy ring from our friends over at supercoachchampion.com. But Geordie, let's get stuck into the hot topics.
00:13:42
Holmesy
And we have to start with our boy, Harmy's boy, Archie Roberts. um Look, he was on fire to start that that game. Didn't go off in the first quarter. I think he was on 40 points at quarter time.
00:13:55
Holmesy
Roll was okay, even with Merritt back there. And then unfortunately, dislocates his shoulder, tackling Cozzy Pickett. He's a trade out. It sounds like he's going to be out for an extended period, if not for the rest of the season, I suppose. Where we start is...
00:14:10
Holmesy
Do we have to go to a defender? I know some teams won't have DPP and they'll sort of be forced into it. But but I mean, let's just talk through what you're thinking initially and and where coaches should be looking to go because I'm not terribly happy with the options that are presenting in the defensive line this week.
00:14:28
JORDAN DSENA
Yep. I think, so for me, I've got DPP, I've got Marshall in my forward line. So I'm going to do a, I'm going to Roberts to a Podjewski rookie and I'm going to put Marshall back, which allows me, I've still got Houston and I think I'm going to hold Houston now. There's a bit of talk about Josh
Defensive Line Trade Strategies
00:14:44
JORDAN DSENA
Dacos going in the midfield. So I think I'm just going to shuffle there and I'll grab a Noah Anderson with my other trade. That's what I'm looking at doing.
00:14:52
JORDAN DSENA
And then I'm looking at grabbing a forward as well, like a Brent Daniels. So I'm doing DPP. ah I would expect that most people would have Lockie Ash and Lockie Whitfield.
00:14:57
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:15:01
JORDAN DSENA
I think those would have been the pick of the bunch last week. So looking at the options, if you do have to go a defender, I feel like you're either paying up for a Noble, which...
00:15:12
JORDAN DSENA
We can go through some numbers on him soon. Or you're going down to a cheaper guy like a Josh Dacos or ah a Laird or a Parker or something like that, which might not be top six, a bit of a risk.
00:15:23
JORDAN DSENA
um So there's a few options there. I think, yeah, it might be looking at how your team's coming out of the ah sixteen like how it looks at the end of the yeah end of the buyers to see if you need to pay up or or not.
00:15:37
Holmesy
Louis, you don't have Archie Roberts, do you?
00:15:40
Lew
Yep. No, not my problem, unfortunately. or fortunately, rather.
00:15:45
Holmesy
if you I'll throw it to you anyway. If you were someone that didn't have DPP and you weren't necessarily comfortable paying up for some of the defensive options that are on, would you consider taking Roberts down all the way to maybe that Anand rookie or a rookie price player and then going up on the other end as a bit of a sort of mini restructure? Or do you think...
00:16:08
Holmesy
it's better to just play it safe, keep the structure, find a way to make a noble work or whether it is a Josh Dacos, Luke Parker. What do you think?
00:16:17
Lew
I think it's always good to stay flexible in that way if you've got a plan. So if you've, you know, you're looking at getting your last rookie off the field next week anyway, potentially you make that switch just for a week and then hope that something um comes towards you certainly off the buy as well. So yeah, I would certainly be open to that. um Certainly, definitely would if you've got some nice coverage in terms of your rookie as well. But Yeah, for me, I'm probably really liking like a Josh Dacos as well. I saw that um potentially some more midfield time has been flagged as well, which we did see at the back end of last year. He was able to really capitalize on that. So um ah i'd be I'd be thinking at his current price, he's probably a little bit underpriced anyway. So that's certainly who I'd be circling.
00:17:07
Holmesy
Yeah, I mean, Jordi, let's talk about Josh Dacos because, I mean, the run has been spoken about as being quite green. But if you actually look on Marrera's Magic scheduled scheduled strength, sorry, for rebounding backs, it's not actually as as fruitful as what we first thought. So...
00:17:25
Holmesy
Port Adelaide's actually quite green. Richmond's green. But then over the last five, Gold Coast has been very restrictive. North Melbourne's been very restrictive. Carlton's been very restrictive. And then Adelaide. So the run is not actually that great for rebounding back. So for a Josh Dacos, you are probably punting that he's going to go into the midfield more. But...
00:17:46
Holmesy
for For all year and even last year, they've been saying he's going to go into the midfield and it doesn't it's not really a CBA role, is it? When they talk midfield, it's probably just more of a a a high halfback or even a wing role.
00:17:59
Holmesy
He is what he
Player Performance Debates
00:18:00
Holmesy
is, right? We've got enough data to suggest now that that Josh Dacos in that team is the 95 guy and and not a top six, right?
00:18:08
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, it's so interesting. Like, Zacul, as you said, more mid-foot time. Is that more wing time? Is that a few CBAs? I've just had a click through as well stretch of strength, and it's, it's you know, yeah if you change it to outside mid-at-insub, it's so up and down for this this run coming ahead.
00:18:26
JORDAN DSENA
If he is half-back, Like if it's a two, can can you do a two week play? Can you, he's got great. He's got two green matchups here. Could you do that? And then maybe hold him that third week.
00:18:37
JORDAN DSENA
And then we're past the buyers and then you can do that luxury upgrade.
00:18:41
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:18:42
JORDAN DSENA
Or is that sort of banking a trade later on? I'm a bit like you. I've had Josh Dacos since round two or three and I, you know, I have gotten quite frustrated, but I'm hoping he has turned a corner as well.
00:18:56
Holmesy
Yeah, look, i it's definitely getting to the point in the season when you can start to look at these more short-term plays. I'm not sure if it's the right move now, considering all these forced trades that we're having and still trying to hunt these best 22 guys. But if we are looking at one of those plays, Jordy, don't you think maybe a Luke Parker would be more appropriate, knowing that you're going get the three matchups? So you've got Richmond into Essendon and then into Port Adelaide.
00:19:20
Holmesy
much nicer three-week stretch, which gives you an extra game to look at it um and then potentially look to move him on What are your thoughts there?
00:19:21
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah.
00:19:29
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah. I don't mind. i don't mind Parker. He just seems to be a solid guy. um on that paying up for noble on this schedule strength.
00:19:42
JORDAN DSENA
can't say that it's hard to say. Um, Hawthorne,
00:19:46
Holmesy
Schedule strength. yeah
00:19:47
JORDAN DSENA
for For the year, Hawthorne as a rebounding back hasn't been has been neutral. But the last five weeks, it's plus 16.2 points. Gold Coast playing Hawthorne this week. Then they've got Freire, which is a positive matchup.
00:20:03
JORDAN DSENA
I know Noble's at 112, but do you just go to the top? ah It's tempting me to just not worry about Josh Dacos and just paying up and trying to get these ceiling scores.
00:20:14
Holmesy
Yeah, so this one this one's tricky. I ill put my hand up on Thursday night, once again, talking with Selby. I i wasn't that keen on the noble pick. and And once again, this might bite me, but priced at 112, he's priced very high above what he's ever been able to sustain in the past.
00:20:31
Holmesy
And then, Louis, you might be able to talk to this a little bit more in terms of ah a footy perspective, but it's got the shades of Archie Roberts about it where... He's playing a role in a side and the side is just not playing good footy, right? So Gold Coast going have to change something up to start to get on the winning side of things again.
00:20:50
Holmesy
So something just tells me that no this isn't sustainable for Noble and paying 112, think... is is a bit of a recipe for disaster. Now, once again, it could bite me, but I'm i'm more in the camp of taking the comp on with this one, knowing that some went there last week and a lot are going to go there this week, especially especially with the Archie Roberts injury.
00:21:12
Holmesy
And that if he does start to regress back to more of what we've seen, then that's a way to start to get a leg up on the competition.
00:21:19
Lew
Yeah, I do have to agree. I think that the microscope's coming on Gold Coast at the moment and they've been a little bit uncompetitive, certainly the last month. So um while I don't think it's going to come necessarily from John Noble dipping in form himself, there's clearly a shuffle that's going to have to happen in that midfield to to make something work for the Suns. And I wouldn't be surprised if some magnets get moved across all areas of the ground to sort of facilitate that, um you know, that game style that they're trying to play. So if that's the case, I think John Noble could be a victim of that. And, you know, he's he's probably not the most damaging player either. I think he does present for a lot of cheap stuff and, They do give it to him as well, to be fair. But um yeah, I think for me, that's probably yeah one of those players you get nervous about when they're overachieving by such a high level that you have to wonder if they come back to the pack a little bit.
00:22:18
Holmesy
Yeah, I don't know if it's the same for you guys, but i I tend to watch players much closer when I don't own them. And I know that a lot of a lot of the comp does own them. And I've been watching John Noble quite closely over the last couple of rounds because, you know, depending on what I might have to bring him in, but...
00:22:35
Holmesy
there's just so many times where they just chip to him in the pocket when they really shouldn't. And then it's just long down the line, turnover, inside 50 it goes. And that's that's why he's racking up so much at the moment because the ball is just getting kicked straight back in and and he's there to get the next possession, right? So i think something will change. I think they need to take it on down the middle more and start to run and explode like they used to. And yeah, just I just see it turning around a little bit. he's still He's still a good player and there's times where he does a lot of the...
00:23:02
Holmesy
The hard stuff and and you clearly need that. But i I also think times that they're giving it to him when he really shouldn't. And yeah, i just think there might be a bit of Archie Roberts about it. But he's still every chance to be a top six defender. So maybe I'll still need to get him over the next couple of rounds. But Geordie, let's go to You want to talk a little bit about planning your team for post round 16 and no rookies on field. So, i mean, talk to me a little bit about the strategy behind what you'll be doing over the next two rounds to make sure that come round 17 coming out of the buyers that your team's in a ah good shape to continue rising.
00:23:38
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, I just want to talk about this because I've started to plan. Obviously, you know, injuries can happen like we saw at Robert. So this could, you know, but I think it's good to plan if things go right. How is your team going to look in round 17?
00:23:50
JORDAN DSENA
Because the ideal thing is you don't want a rookie on field, ideally, because that's when you can start making points on other teams. So I've had a look at my team. um And basically what it's done is it's helped me make a decision. Like, obviously, I've got the DPP.
00:24:07
JORDAN DSENA
I could get Noble this week or I could get Noah Anderson with DPP and save myself 80K and I'm going to need that 80K for next week to do ah to get rid of Steele and a few other guys and get a Durham and these sort of players. Yeah.
00:24:23
JORDAN DSENA
So I think look at your team. There's a lot of players that potentially could score in line. So Noble's there at 112. You've got Rory Laird or Josh Dacos at 96 and 90.
00:24:31
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:24:34
JORDAN DSENA
You're going to save yourself probably is at 200K. Can they score in line? If they can, it's probably worth it to make sure you get a rookie off field. um You know, there's probably Dugowie and Daniels. It's 150K.
00:24:49
JORDAN DSENA
Noah Anderson, or or we haven't talked about this guy yet, but Will Day or Taranto type. Like, I guess it's projecting what they what you see. But for me, it's helped my decision with a ah lower price player.
00:25:04
JORDAN DSENA
And I think I need to take a risk. Otherwise, if I don't do this, I'm going to come out with rookies on field and I'm going to be hurt. post r sixteen
00:25:12
Holmesy
Yeah, it's ah it's a really important point and and I know you do it as well, Jordy, but what I like to do at at the end of each buy round is just to put all my players back on field just to have a look at the structure to see how it lines up because you know I've been a victim of this in the past. you're You're in the buy rounds and you've got players flicked all over the place with DPP and then without even knowing you might have now nine midfielders or seven defenders and then all of a sudden you can't get particular premiums on field out of the buys and you you're in a bit of a pickle. And Louis, this is the other sort of reason as to why I'm kind of talking about this defender trade this week. Let's let's say you do trade in a ah Josh Dacos, Rory Laird, Luke Parker.
00:25:52
Holmesy
We also have to remember that there's going to be top six defenders that we're going to want to get post-round 16. So that being potentially ah an Asaya, a Max Holmes, a Jack Sinclair, if you don't have them, players that we can't trade into this week.
00:26:06
Holmesy
Like, let's be honest, with Archie Roberts out now, If St. Kilda had already had their buy, we'd all be going to Naz. Or if Geelong had already had their buy, we'd all be going to home. So you've also got to try and think ahead and think, well, I want these players after round 16. I don't want to fill out my defensive line now and then have to trade out one of these guys. If there's bullets, like I might not be able to trade out a Josh Dacos to get in the player that I want. And then all of a sudden, you're you're chasing your tail a little bit. So it's really important to not only think about the trades this week and your structure, but what are you looking to do over the following weeks?
00:26:40
Lew
Yeah, he's spot on, but at the same time, it can also be about sort of what the back end of your your defensive line or your midfield line looks like. Like we've discussed multiple times this year how, you know, potentially we finished the year with seven, even eight defenders using that DPP via the midfield. So definitely be aware of it, but um also just, you know,
00:27:03
Lew
Make sure that you're comparing these players and how they stack up because there's every chance that we are going to land somewhere like that. and we can still bring in um what I'll describe
Post-Buy Rounds Strategy
00:27:13
Lew
as a pretty safe pick in like a Wanganeen Miller over maybe a midfielder who you think can score about the same, but there's a little bit more question marks over.
00:27:24
Holmesy
Yeah, I suppose. Yeah, we haven't had as much defender mid-DPP as we have in previous years, but Holmes is Messiah both. I can't actually remember off the top of my head as he is, isn't he?
00:27:35
JORDAN DSENA
Pretty, yeah, pretty sure.
00:27:36
Lew
Yes. Defender mid.
00:27:37
Holmesy
you've got those two that, yeah, you can trade into the midfield if if need be.
00:27:37
Lew
Yep. And same with homes.
00:27:40
Holmesy
The other thing before we move on, Jordy is... Planning ahead for next week, like there's going to be players particularly like ah a Heaney, a Merritt. So just making sure that, I mean, personally, I'd like to carry over a bit of cash this week so that I can potentially do some double upgrades next week to start to hunt those players because those guys with the ceilings are are some of those safer top four midfielders that we're going to want to finish the year.
00:28:06
JORDAN DSENA
Yep. Yep, definitely. I really want Heaney next week. So I'm planning for that. There's also Marcus Herbert, who is a rookie, came out and did a pretty good score. I'm hoping he's going to be there after the bias. You probably want to grab him for cash gen as well.
00:28:20
JORDAN DSENA
So just sort of planning for all that.
00:28:24
Holmesy
Louis, before we move on to the midfielders, last little sort of sneaky defender option. Any interest in Sam Banks priced at 60 after the one has been in his price now?
00:28:35
Holmesy
I didn't watch a lot of the game on the weekend, the Brisbane game. I put my hand up. Jordy, I think you watched a bit, but was he back in defense? Because we need him in defense and not on the wing.
00:28:44
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, he was a bit more. He had had the two kickouts. So the last, I think, month or so, he he's had he's had no kickouts. I didn't haven't watched heaps closely, but I just assume he's a lot more deeper now. He's not playing, you know, potentially on a wing as he as he was and obviously been injured. So I think I'm just thinking with him, it might just be you you watch one or two more and then you grab him. Like he's so cheap.
00:29:08
JORDAN DSENA
um I think you just wait on him. And if he does another 90 plus, I don't think he's going to go up that much. I think he's break even. to check, but it's not ah it's not crazy.
00:29:19
JORDAN DSENA
And if he looks clear like he's going to be in that role, think then we just jump on.
00:29:24
Lew
Yeah, I'm a bit cagey, to be honest.
00:29:24
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:29:26
Lew
ah i ah think he might be one that's there for a good time, not a long time. And I'd be wanting to jump on sooner rather than later. um And um I'm just not convinced that the Tigers are going to settle in on roles to finish the year.
00:29:41
Lew
I think they've got a lot that they want to find out and and sort of start to look towards next year if they haven't started already. So... um yeah for for me that's one that worries me ah I know you know at various times we've spoken about a Tom Brown in a similar role as well and that's not really come to fruition I think just when you're the poorest team in the comp and you're getting your your ass handed to you every single week it can be really hard to to maintain a um ah decent score especially as what you know he's quite a young player still so yeah that would be my only concern even Jadon Short hasn't shot the lights out really
00:29:57
JORDAN DSENA
Mm-hmm.
00:30:18
Holmesy
Gee, Louis. I mean, Tom Brown broke his arm, mate. It's a bit harsh on the young fella, but...
00:30:25
Lew
Yeah, we spoke about him a few different times this year, though.
00:30:26
Holmesy
But yes, paul point made. They're up and down. They're up and down. i agree, Jordy. Watch it another week. If that role's confirmed, then maybe you can take a punt at it. It'll still be priced at 63, 65, so still be value. But yeah, with Jadon Short and Vlosten and those players back there, it it does make it hard.
00:30:47
Holmesy
Let's talk about some of the the popular players that are on their buy. The ownership numbers, if we discuss any of these, are all courtesy of the top 1,000 from Moreira's Magic. Let's just start with the rookies, Louis. So, I mean, if you're ah a Milan Murdoch owner, if you're a Jai Sorong owner, a Roby owner,
00:31:04
Holmesy
Even a Farrow, Lindsay, like are these all players that you'd be happy to to cash out and and go up on this week or are there any that you'd consider just holding through their buys? You know, Ajay Sarong, for example, um we have seen the benefits of him over the last few rounds putting up some pretty decent scores.
00:31:21
Lew
I think all of them can go. I think if I had to pick one that um I am a little bit fond of, it would be Milan Murdoch just due to that forward status, I think, um and mature age ability to put up a score as is shown. But um yeah, this is the time of year where you're probably looking to get some money off of their heads and onto some others.
00:31:43
Holmesy
Jordy. Now, there was a question about this from one of the listeners. I don't have it in front of me, but Brodie Grundy, 47%, 49% owned. Is there any world where you would consider ah Grundy trade out? I mean, Selby put up the stats on his podcast on Monday outside of that massive score against Collingwood where they didn't have a Ruckman after Steen did his ACL. He hasn't actually set the world on fire. He's He's getting tired. They have shown that they'll play Laddams and rest him.
00:32:12
Holmesy
Is there any world where you trade him maybe to a Luke Jackson or a Tristan Cherry? Or do you think Grundy Gorn's the combo that we're going to want to finish out the year? So you just hold tight and and cop it this week.
00:32:25
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, it's it's a hard one because it's just ah it's just who do you go to? like Like you said, is it Jackson, Cherry? They're not really giving you much confidence at the moment. Like Cherry, I put a tweet out last week about it. I mean, he did get 110, but there are some concerns with his CBAs, goes in the side.
00:32:44
JORDAN DSENA
I kind of lean towards what Harmi said last week of just sort of waiting out the rucks. You know, I guess we had that chance to to trade Grundy when he's going to miss two of the next four.
00:32:55
JORDAN DSENA
And I guess if you're holding, you just hold again? And, um, Yeah, and try and fix up other, other you know if you've got Archie Roberts, for example, maybe you look at holding and you've got to trade him out and try and upgrade his side.
00:33:07
JORDAN DSENA
I don't know. It's just if there was a clear option, i probably would say trade, but it just seems a bit flaky in the right client at the moment is my thoughts.
00:33:17
Holmesy
Yeah, I tend to agree. I mean, the one thing is that the Sydney run for Rucks is actually quite tough to finish out the year. So they've only got um two green matchups, which is the Western Bulldogs in round 17 and then GWS in round 20. But outside of that, he's got the Frio matchup, he's got the Adelaide matchup, he's got the North matchup and the St Kilda matchup. So it's not...
00:33:39
Holmesy
the best run but I think yeah if you didn't trade him out the three four weeks ago when he was managed I think now you just need to hold him because I mean personally he's still a ah trading consideration for me um at some stage over the next couple of rounds if he bottoms out so for that reason Lou I'm not sure I'd be trading him but do you have any other differing opinions
00:33:59
Lew
Nah, I think you boys nailed it there and I think we sort of wrapped it up pretty nicely last week too where there's just not much between these top rucks and I think on any given week it can go either which way really.
00:34:13
Holmesy
Now, Lou, I'm a bit biased here, so I'll throw to you. But Chad Warner, 1-10 average in his last three, has been off the back of a more consistent move into the midfield. So um i think he's averaging about 70% CBAs over his last three. Clearly, it was the McInerney injury two weeks in a row, but then last week definitely was Errol to return post-buy.
00:34:38
Holmesy
Is this a sneaky move where coaches can read the tea leaves a bit and and think that his role might diminish with Errol back in the side? Or do you think the form's too good? You just hold and then, you know, you bank on Errol taking, you know, a a month to just kind of build his fitness on the wing before he moves inside.
00:34:53
Lew
I'd certainly be holding. I think you're getting a little bit cute if you're looking at trading him out. I think um you know the J-Mac injury certainly helped, but there's always going to come a time where Chad Warner was going to come into a nice little vein of form.
00:35:07
Lew
um He does do it year on year where he he just puts together a couple of nice really good months of football. and Swans will fly into September too. I wouldn't be surprised if Errol Goulden comes back, they manage him a little bit and We even see some of that forward time, which we did at the start of the year as well. um So, yeah, for me, definitely a hold and looks to be top six. A little bit like how we're a little bit cagey on Petrarca, but it's hard not to make a case that he's going to be there, thereabouts.
00:35:38
Holmesy
Yeah, no, I think I'd agree with that. For some reason, he's ah he's a nervous own each week and that is probably due to the fact that he's a real burst scorer, but the role's definitely improved. So unless you see that role change, I think you definitely hold him in that forward line and and maybe does become that that loop when we do get that 23rd premium.
00:35:57
Holmesy
Jordy, let's sort talk some targets. Now, we're all Jordan Dawson owners, now priced at $122, which is insane to think about. Do you think for non-DACOS owners that you've got to go DACOS first for the price difference priced at $117 or is the form for Dawson too hard to to pass up?
00:36:17
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, I think you go Dacos, just little bit cheaper. i think it's 50K. Just lock in locking the gun. That's the start of the year incredibly well, like at 120. I still think you can if you haven't got Dawson, you can still just grab him. i just I can't see him slowing down. I just think he's playing unbelievable football and he just like the Crows are on a bit of a run here.
00:36:40
JORDAN DSENA
So I think you can still grab him if you've got Dacos. I'm out of the view of just starting getting these top guys in.
00:36:47
Holmesy
Yeah, yeahp I do tend to agree on the proviso, as you said, that you're still able to um complete your side out of the buys and you're not just ruining your team to do it as there's still, what, ah seven, eight rounds to go after the buys. There's still a real crucial time for trading and you want to still be able to make sure that you can do moves to finish the year.
00:37:08
Holmesy
Let's talk about a couple of midfielders, Louis, that you know coaches need to consider that have had their bias.
Investment in Post-Buy Players
00:37:14
Holmesy
Noel Anderson priced at 105, Clayton Oliver priced at 103. I'm going to take Finn Callaghan off this list, Geordie at 98. I'm not sure we go there.
00:37:24
Holmesy
Rau at 94, LDU 93. Are these the areas that we want to be shopping in or are we going to be waiting until we can get the Heaney, the Merritt in the next week or two?
00:37:38
Lew
Look, ideally you do want to go um as high as you can and and wait on those guys, certainly if you're looking to complete your midfield as well. But um that all being said, if it's for the right price and you can um find a way to spend the cash, spend down the cash a little bit and then spend that cash better, In a couple of weeks' time, I certainly don't mind it just because these have been guys that you know we've been discussing.
00:38:03
Lew
I'm just nipping at the heels of that top eight midfielder status anyway. you know I think of Anandas certainly when he's in form, but um also Clayton Oliver we've been speaking about for a month or two now.
00:38:06
Holmesy
Thank you.
00:38:15
Lew
they're They're probably getting the job done too. So, yeah, I wouldn't talk anybody out of um either option there, but it does always feel nicer to to get the the big dog
00:38:27
Holmesy
Clayton Oliver, I think, will be a top eight mid by the time the season's out. I'm not sure you're going to get a lot of the ceiling scores. Even on the weekend, we saw the huge first half, but he is someone that has started to attract a little bit of attention when he gets off to these hot starts because he's so dangerous around the the stoppages.
00:38:43
Holmesy
But I actually like Anderson as well.
00:38:46
Holmesy
Jordy, he's... um If they're going tag Petrarca, that makes him an even juicier option because last year in particular, we saw his difference between tag and no tag and Petrarca is shown to be more damaging.
00:38:46
JORDAN DSENA
Mm-hmm.
00:38:58
Holmesy
You can't ignore the form, right? I think it's what four out of the last five scores have been above 110 with that 130 on the weekend, captain of the club that's struggling. I think he's one that's going to really put his hand up to to finish quite strong.
00:39:11
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, I was just going to ask him about Anderson. He's one that I'm pretty confident I'm going to grab him this week. And I'm just like, he's he's priced at 105 now and he was so cheap a few weeks ago. But I'm just, I'm interested, as you said, with the tag.
00:39:24
JORDAN DSENA
He had 11 tackles. He's been also marking as well. I think Gold Coast are in this position where there's a bit of heat on them. He's the captain. i know they got you know they've got a pretty tough run. They've got Hawks and Freya. I think he's, as a captain, he was quite vocal as well on Friday night down at the Cattery.
00:39:44
JORDAN DSENA
I think he's you know trying to lift his team and I think we might um what I'm hoping is ah a bit of a captain's performance the next couple of weeks to try and get this Gold Coast side back up in the in the top 10 because if they don't do something in the next probably month, they might miss the 10 and they're going to be in a bit of bit of strife with their run. So,
00:40:04
JORDAN DSENA
I'm hoping Noah can stand up and it it looks like he's trying to do everything he can last month, you know, for the team.
00:40:09
Lew
Thank you.
00:40:11
JORDAN DSENA
So I'm expecting him to continue this form and I think I'm just going to grab him now while he's hot.
00:40:18
Holmesy
Yep, no, I agree with that. Let's talk about some of the pot options. Lou, we're a little bit biased, but Will Day priced at 84, 800K. was someone that I had sort of looked at last week, not realizing that, you know, priced at 84, I think.
00:40:35
Holmesy
Everything going right for Will Day. probably a 95 guy and that takes into account being fit and you know at the top of his form, which he's not at the moment. He's still trying to regain his fitness.
00:40:46
Holmesy
Has the Gold Coast this week, which is a ah really good matchup, but some some tough ones around that. Is this one we just let go through to the keeper after what we've seen with Ahima Cluggidge, any of these players coming back from long-term term injuries?
00:40:59
Holmesy
you know They're up and down, and I think Hawthorne have said, and they will show that if he needs to be managed, they'll absolutely do that because they want him humming for finals.
00:41:08
Lew
Yeah, I'm certainly in that boat. I think you know it was a foot injury he was dealing with. That's not going to be something that going to mess around with too much. And I'm expecting probably a little bit of management, best case scenario, in-game management. But just the Hawks, especially the midfielders, make me nervous. I think that they all score particularly well, but they all have their ceilings clipped because of it. So Price at 84%.
00:41:34
Lew
Look, I really wouldn't be expecting even a 90 average out of him. And that sort of runs in line with the rest of the Hawks mids as well. um So for that reason, I think that's one that you just let go past.
00:41:46
Holmesy
What about your boy, Joe Richards then? Is it Joe Richards?
00:41:51
Holmesy
Yep.
00:41:51
JORDAN DSENA
Yep.
00:41:51
Lew
Yep.
00:41:52
Holmesy
Playing as a midfielder now with forward status price at 79, has put up some some pretty good scores, 80s to 100s over the last sort of month as he's been building into this midfield role.
00:42:03
Holmesy
um A lot of people are going to go Brent Daniels this week and for good reason. He was very, very good. He's the safer option, but is there any temptation by Joe Richards?
00:42:13
Lew
um Yeah, there there probably is a slight bit of temptation. I think that might be um the green shoots of maybe what Port are looking to do if Butters does depart. And if that's the case, then we're probably going to see that for at least the next couple of weeks as they sort of look to... um you know to see what that midfield can look like. So I think if you were looking for a bit of a point of difference, I don't mind Joe Richards, but um I'd be keeping in mind that there might be a bit of movement in that midfield for those exact same reasons as well moving forward. So um yeah, definitely one to watch though.
00:42:52
JORDAN DSENA
Thank
00:42:52
Holmesy
Yeah, Jordy, I think pretty much for the same price, Brent Daniels was pretty hard to go past. I mean, the the injury concerns are still there. He's been very injury prone with soft tissue and whatnot over the last sort of 18 months.
00:43:05
Holmesy
But he was the number one CBA mid on the weekend. Actually attracted a tag after quarter time because he was so good. I think he had six tackles and 10 clearances, something along those lines.
00:43:15
Lew
Thank you.
00:43:15
Holmesy
He was probably their best player on the on the day outside of the Clayton Oliver. that role is probably too good to pass up right in the forward line.
00:43:25
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, I think that's pretty much where I've come to. Again, I've never been massive on Daniels because of the injury history, but the last few weeks, he's got the role. The Giants tried Lockie Ash in this role weeks ago.
00:43:38
JORDAN DSENA
Didn't work. They've moved into halfback. Daniels has taken that role. They're pretty similar sort of builds are in the midfield. And Giants are winning. i know they lost against the Saints, but at least they were pretty competitive. So I'm just going to take the punt. He's pretty cheap. He's priced at $78,000.
00:43:53
JORDAN DSENA
And I, yeah, I think he can, if he can go 90, 95 and sort of be in line with those other guys, like your Horn Francis, like Jason Horn Francis is the fourth highest averaging forward, averaging 92. So if Daniels can get anywhere near that,
00:44:10
JORDAN DSENA
um what it's going to allow me to do is grab a Heaney, grab a Merritt, grab a Noah Anderson by saving 100K. So I'm going to take the risk on it and he's the third most traded in. So I think I'm going to follow the pack. It's hard to ignore.
Rookie Selection Strategies
00:44:25
Holmesy
Yep, I would agree with that and also looking to do something similar. Jordy, before we get into the questions, just talk me through some of the rookie options that are available this week. I think Fitzgerald, even though he's got a buy next week, I think he's too good to pass up. And if you don't grab him this week, you're probably going to be paying an extra 80, 90K to grab him after the buy, which means you're probably not going to do it. So he's definitely one to grab.
00:44:50
Holmesy
Paul Kahan is probably in the same boat as well. I don't think the ceiling is going to be quite as high, but he's been fantastic for Adelaide. Talk to me about some of the other options because, you know, the is it Podolsky from Collingwood quite popular.
00:45:06
Holmesy
But yeah, where do we go?
00:45:08
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, I actually like, there's quite a few options. So Jasper Alga on the weekends had a 78. He's the rising star as well. So he's an option there. He's break-evens minus 11. For me, though, he's just, he's at that price range. i haven't got his price here, but he's, 320 or so K, I think. So you definitely can go there.
00:45:29
JORDAN DSENA
You've got John Murray, who had a great game on the weekend as well, breakeven of minus one. Marcus Herbert, good game for West Coast. He's one I'm targeting in a week, so you can wait on on him and and Mitch Podjasky, the breakeven of two. so there's a few options here. For me, I'm going to go Podjasky. the cheapest.
00:45:47
JORDAN DSENA
And I just think with Jamie Elliott going down, I think he's got a... a um a role there but I think all of these guys are probably in the side for the next at least like I don't see Jai Murray coming out I don't think Alga is going to come out with Richmond playing the kids and Herbert um you know he was pretty good so I think you can kind of go for any of these guys if they fit your structure I'm just going for the cheapest guy to help me get the upgrade
00:46:13
Holmesy
Yeah, I think that Podolsky as a forward is quite valuable considering the forward rookies outside of a Tommy Cochran. I haven't been getting it done, Louis, unfortunately, but I think it is whatever fits your structure better.
00:46:25
Holmesy
um I'm considering an Anand this week because I've still got Lindsay and Farrow that I need to cash out. So by getting that defender rookie in helps me with my structure and I'm not i'm hoping I'm not going to need him on field at any point soon. So it's more just about...
00:46:39
Holmesy
some slow cash gen to finish off the year. But yeah, I think the good rookies are coming in the following weeks in terms of Herbert.
00:46:51
Holmesy
Cook was really good in his quarter before he got the concussion. So hey he's probably going to be someone we can look at post-Melbourn's buy as well. So I think, yeah, maybe just take the one this week and then look to to grab a couple over the next few weeks as we go into the final part of the year.
00:47:09
Holmesy
oh Sorry, boys. All right, let's get stuck into the questions to finish. First one, Louis from Rock and Roller. Fellas, what to do with McAndrew R2? Went Grundy to Gorn when he was rested, but not seeing any other ruck putting their hand up.
00:47:24
Holmesy
Expecting a quieter week this week with the Gorn matchup, but beyond that, not seeing anyone offering up a reliable 10-plus points. We kind of spoke about this before. Do you just keep rolling with McAndrew R2 until the ruck that we want to really get shows them themselves?
00:47:39
Lew
Yeah, I think you're probably just holding the line at the moment and watching those other big dog rucks come down in price and and hopefully getting you know just a bit more of a lay of the land and trading into one that's in in a bit more of a vein of form. But um yeah, I wouldn't be that confident in McAndrew scoring that much less than some of these other guys based on the numbers they've been putting up recently.
00:48:04
Holmesy
Yep, I'd agree with that. he's ah The Gorn matchup's tough, but McAndrew's been getting it done. So I think you just keep riding that. And yeah, when an English comes later on in the season or whoever it is, I think that's when you look to kind of pivot. But I wouldn't be looking to do that this week. Jordy.
00:48:21
Holmesy
This one is from Chris. Jai Sarong is my only on-field rookie left. Can I hold him as I have 21 playing this week and move on any underperforming players, e.g. Steele, Walsh? So it's kind of what we spoke about.
00:48:37
Holmesy
Personally, I think it's okay to hold Jai Sarong if he's your last rookie on field and start to hunt those best 22 guys around him, knowing that you do need to have him off field come round 17. So you do want to be careful to not have yourself found out.
00:48:51
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, I agree with that. Sorong's been brilliant the last month and I think you can definitely hold him. I just think, yeah, we've got a few weeks. Just make sure that ends around 16. You're still going to have another three trades a week after and another two interrounds into that round. So you can fix him up then.
00:49:08
JORDAN DSENA
Probably getting up for these other guys to get a best, like a day. If you haven't got Dacos, that's probably where you you might go. So i think you can definitely hold him um and grab one of those top guys.
00:49:19
Holmesy
Yep, and having 21 on field this week iss not ah not a bad thing. We saw the 49% of Grundy owners, not many will trade, which means you know pretty much half the the coaches that are competing are going to be playing 21 anyway, so it's not a a huge risk to to play 21 that week. Louis, this one is from Aidan Collins.
00:49:38
Holmesy
Can we go early on a Rankin and hope he gets close to a top six instead of a Brent Daniels? So Brent being that more speculative guy, whereas Rankin off his form before he got injured was the top six.
00:49:51
Holmesy
Could you take a punt on him? Or like i I personally would need to see the role, him coming back from injury first, but other coaches, if they're willing to take a punt, could you just go there knowing that a lot of the comp won't take that risk?
00:50:06
Lew
Yeah, gee, the big thing here is the price difference for me, being ah nearly $170,000, $180,000. And just looking at um earlier on in the season as well, when Rankin came back a little bit underdone, the role was a little bit more forward and Rochelle picked up a few of those extra minutes instead.
00:50:26
Lew
i don't think Adelaide necessarily have to risk Rankin in the midfield full-time immediately. He might take you know a fortnight to three weeks to... to warm up before he's in there and, and going nicely in terms of a fantasy average. So yeah, I would be happy to take the punt on Daniels. I think at 920 K without seeing it, I think in terms of ranking, you're taking more of a risk.
00:50:52
Holmesy
Yep, I'd agree with that, although Rankin has had 160 ceiling this week. But body of evidence of what we've seen is that when he does come back into the side, they give him a few weeks to ramp up and get his fitness. Break even of 89, I don't think he's going to get away from you. you know If he put up a ceiling score on his first game back, then I'd tip my hat and say, well done, and and now we need to get him.
00:51:15
Holmesy
Jordy, this one is from Hamish Robertson. Can we bring in rookies on the buy? So Herbert and Artemis, I'm thinking of going early on. So if you don't need the numbers this week and you want to just really milk all of that cash and go down to Artemis being 230K or Herbert, is it a play?
00:51:35
JORDAN DSENA
it probably It's probably okay, isn't it? For me, yeah. It's probably fine as if it suits your structure. like There's always that risk that they're not going to be there the week after or they could get injured. We haven't actually seen Artemis yet. He's in the VFL.
00:51:52
JORDAN DSENA
if it's if you If there's no other option, that you don't want to go Pajuski, Murray, Algar, any of these guys, I would... I'd prioritise getting a rookie that's playing, but if it suits your structure and you have to get it, like I think you can do it.
00:52:08
Holmesy
Yeah, the one thing I'll say is clearly the injury is the concern. So if Artemis is to pop another calf at training and you don't see him for the year, that's ah that's a flag. And Herbert, you know, we didn't see McCarthy on the weekend. So what does that look like with McCarthy coming back?
00:52:22
Holmesy
the one the The situation I'll say that it's okay is if... The rookie that you're trading into the midfield this week, if you can't actually get them on field because of your structure, then that's when I'm okay with it. So, for example, if you don't have any midfielders on the buy this week, really, then the rookie you bring in you can't get on field, then i'd I'd be okay with it. But know that you are taking the punt on and an injury. And if they do get injured, then um it's a bit of a wasted trade. But, yeah.
Trading Decisions on Key Players
00:52:49
Holmesy
press the button. So, Louis, this one is from Sandra, and I've deliberately gone away from Geordie for this one. Was planning to trade Will Ashcroft on his buy, but keeping him after his performance and leaving me with nine mid-primos.
00:53:02
Holmesy
um So, if you've got nine mid-primos, and let's talk Will Ashcroft, is it a play to trade him on his buy? His role hasn't been great and he's been up and down. Geordie's shaking his head.
00:53:12
Holmesy
um Merit's not getting defender status, by the way.
00:53:13
Lew
Thank you.
00:53:16
Holmesy
It's it's too far gone, but...
00:53:17
JORDAN DSENA
12%, 12% he's at. twelve percent he app
00:53:18
Holmesy
Yeah, 12%. So he's not going to get it done. But is it a play to trade Will Ashcroft?
00:53:23
Lew
Well, gee, you'd you'd have to be a pretty brave coach after a 152. I'd question what other midfielders you've got as part of your eight. If Ashcroft is your is you worst on and and you can't get him on field, then yeah, unfortunately, he's you know the answer that you don't want to hear is maybe you do have to look at trading him. But um yeah, maybe you can start looking at some fixtures. It doesn't necessarily have to be about the role. It might be that you know maybe a player's got a couple of um tough matchups coming up and and you can maybe sort of predict that one. But um yeah, certainly not envious of that. That's for sure. I think that's sort of the tricky spot that you can find yourself in during the buys is that you you accidentally sort of bring in too many of one player in a certain position.
00:54:14
Holmesy
The one thing I will say on Will Ashcroft, where is it? So they do have Sydney, then Geelong post by, and then they go Essendon, West Coast port. So it's it still is a pretty good run. So I think, as Geordie's saying, I think I would be holding. It's pretty hard to trade out of a player after a 150.
00:54:32
Holmesy
But in saying that, if he had put up another 90-odd score, Geordie, it'd probably be a different conversation. But he didn't, so...
00:54:39
JORDAN DSENA
Not for me.
00:54:40
Holmesy
play on yeah fair enough Jordy last question this one's from Sean having held English all this time reluctantly is it time for him to go on his bye if he doesn't lift this week only problem is he has gone on the same bye so he's got the gone English combo which means he's not going to have a ruck in that round 16 so what do you do with English
00:55:03
JORDAN DSENA
Jeez, what is going on with English? He just hasn't quite got it. The problem with English is, is I've got Darcy Cameron in a couple of weeks, I might go to English. So it's one of those things you trade, it you've held him, you trade him out. And then in three weeks, if he does a pop a score, are you trading back into him? That's probably the only, only thing, but then you've got both on the same buy. So, do you what do you do you, do you just jump off, look at maybe getting him again? Because otherwise you're going to, you have to run 20 next week.
00:55:35
JORDAN DSENA
I don't know where to sit with that.
00:55:37
Holmesy
Louis, you're really big on this and this is something you've been echoing on the podcast for years now is that when coaches are in this position and you've got underperforming players, it's emotionally it's really hard not to trade them out. But when the rest of the competition is going to view them as potential trading options in a couple of weeks, if the form turns around, you've got to you've got to hold fat, don't you?
00:55:59
Lew
Yeah, that's just it. So I'm sort of thinking here, i would maybe be focusing on getting a ah really strong 20 and using my three trades to to make sure that what I'm missing in my rucks, who look, to be honest, um obviously Gorn's been scoring well, but English hasn't really been firing a shot for you just as yet.
00:56:21
Lew
um You know, potentially upgrading around that and holding fat and then and then seeing the dividends come out later.
00:56:29
Holmesy
Yeah, I think you know this game here is going to get his help get his fitness back. He's then got the bye to freshen up and then post-bye. Sydney, relatively tough, but it hasn't been as tough over the last five.
00:56:41
Holmesy
West Coast, really good. Gold Coast, really good into Richmond before some tougher games to finish. So I think I'd be holding fat on English personally, but I can see why. It's been a ah real frustrating year, that's for sure. We all started him and unfortunately, some coaches have been stuck with him for longer with all the the timelines around his injury not being clear. But boys, that's going to wrap us up.
00:57:04
Holmesy
Jordi, you're about to head off soon on a bit of a trip. So we might not hear from you for a while. You were supposed to be my host when I'm off to off to the fa off with the family overseas for a little bit, but I'm not going to be able to rely on you. So why don't you just give the listeners a bit of a closing thoughts considering they're not going to hear your voice for a while.
00:57:21
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah, so I'm off to Canada on Monday. I'm going for a wedding over there and um I've tried to get some World Cup tickets as well, but i've been I've been trying for ages. So we'll see. We might be able to get some on those sites or something. But yeah, I will be in Canada for about four weeks. So I'll be back back end of the year.
00:57:40
JORDAN DSENA
Louis, I might have to get you to look at my team maybe, do the some loopholes, depending on the time difference. No, no.
00:57:48
Holmesy
that's just That's just what Louis wants, Geordie.
00:57:51
JORDAN DSENA
ah
00:57:51
Holmesy
Louis is not even logging into the app for his own team and you want to make him be the assistant coach for yours.
00:57:53
JORDAN DSENA
yeah
00:57:54
Lew
ah
00:57:56
JORDAN DSENA
Yep. It might have to be done. Louis is the best at that actually. Best at BCs and Cs. You can always trust him with that, I think.
00:58:04
Holmesy
he loves He loves a Thursday night one when someone needs to do it when he needs to do it for someone because he just gets to not think about it after that.
00:58:06
JORDAN DSENA
Yeah.
00:58:10
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:58:10
JORDAN DSENA
And I think you you'll always seem to nail it, Louis.
00:58:13
JORDAN DSENA
Every time i've you know you've changed it, it's worked.
00:58:16
Lew
Yeah, just not for my own side. I love an 85 captain.
00:58:18
JORDAN DSENA
that
00:58:22
Holmesy
Yeah, far out.
00:58:22
JORDAN DSENA
Yep.
00:58:23
JORDAN DSENA
Anyway, I'll be back soon, in four weeks, but I'll be listening overseas and doing, obviously, yeah, hoping my team is gonna move up in rank.
00:58:32
Holmesy
Beautiful. We'll miss you, mate. To everyone else, make sure you're following us on X at PodPod AFL. I'm at Holmes is Heroes. Please make sure you're subscribed to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your content.
00:58:45
Holmesy
As always, I'll be back on Thursday night for Moreau's Magic, talking all things strategy with Selby as the teams drop. Hopefully, we will have John Harmy back with us next week.
00:58:59
Holmesy
Fingers crossed. But for everyone else, we'll be back then without Jordy, ready to chat through round 15. Bye.