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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:18
Holmesy
G'day and welcome to the Pod Pod brought to you by Moreira's Magic. I'm your host Holmesy, three-time top 10 finisher and twice runner-up in AFL Fantasy Classic. We are back for our round nine review and it's been a pretty eventful day, not only from a footy perspective, but a fantasy perspective as well, which we're going to get into.
Co-host Updates and Humor
00:00:38
Holmesy
We don't have Jordy on tonight. He decided to just do the show doc for us and then go missing, but that's all good. We do have... ah twice top 10 and runner up in 2019 John Harmy with us Harmy bombers back to earth this week they are they couldn't get it done against GWS and yeah they're they're struggling mate but how are you
00:01:01
Jon Harmey
Hey, Holmesy, look, yep, the Bombers are down. Fantasy sides bombed. Feeling very much like Michael Voss at the moment, just feeling like I should fall on my sword and just let you boys play out the rest of the season.
00:01:19
Holmesy
Well, that's a good point, Harmi, because Louis is with us. And Louis, can you confirm that about an hour before we were supposed to record tonight, you've come into the group chat and you've said, any chance that we can postpone this podcast until 2027? that correct?
00:01:37
Lew
Yes, yes, completely correct. I was um i was not going to rock up tonight because I want to prepare for 2027. Yeah, I reckon every single injury that has happened this year, I have copped at this point. I'm certainly in the double figures and onwards
Player Choices and Regrets
00:01:59
Lew
and upwards. But tell you what, you you take enough hits and you and you do start to feel a little bit down.
00:02:05
Lew
copped my first donut.
00:02:05
Jon Harmey
Come on. it Oh, donut.
00:02:08
Lew
For a few years too. I ah don't reckon I've caught the donut in a couple of years. and we'll We'll go over that when we go over the scores. But yeah, it's certainly not my year this year.
00:02:19
Jon Harmey
Lift the mood, Holmesy.
00:02:21
Holmesy
Before I do that, Harmy, I just, Louis, can you believe that all John Harmy did all preseason was talk up his bomber boys? So it was Parrish, it was Caldwell, it was Sharp that he started, it was everyone, Blackiston, yet he doesn't have his boy, Archie Roberts, who is putting up 150s for fun.
00:02:44
Holmesy
And Harmy, you don't get to enjoy it with the rest of us.
00:02:46
Jon Harmey
Got Nas though I've got Nas instead
00:02:51
Holmesy
Surely you just fix that up this week, don't you?
00:02:57
Jon Harmey
Is he top dollar? like I don't like trading in people at the peak
00:03:03
Holmesy
easy he Is he? He's priced at 118. Is he top dollar, mate? He keeps putting up one fifty s for fun.
00:03:08
Jon Harmey
No, going to average 45 possessions a game, is he, for the year?
00:03:12
Lew
We got Aaron Hull 2.0 on our hands, I think.
00:03:14
Jon Harmey
Oh, man.
00:03:16
Holmesy
Yeah, far,
Fantasy Group Chat Jinx and Player Performances
00:03:17
Holmesy
far. up before we Before we do get into the the round, though, Louis, we do need to address, and Jordy's not here, but that doesn't mean he's going to get off scot-free here. And I'm going to put my hand up and and apologize too, but if there's one thing I know that you hate, it's an early crow in the group chat.
00:03:35
Holmesy
And unfortunately, boy Jordy gets a little bit excited and and is notorious for it. So can you just talk a little bit about his his antics on Friday night?
00:03:46
Lew
Friday night. will ah man
00:03:48
Holmesy
the The Brisbane game.
00:03:50
Lew
What's happened in the Brisbane game? It's ah it's a long weekend. in
00:03:54
Holmesy
You were on the beers, weren't you? So i'llll I'll paint the picture then. So it's Friday night.
00:03:58
Lew
You've thrown me that out of the blue.
00:04:00
Holmesy
the bri The Brisbane game's just started. They're probably just over quarter time. And Jordy's come into the group chat and he's just gone, Zach Bailey. And you've just gone,
00:04:10
Lew
ah Oh, see, yeah. Okay, well, this is why can't remember because i've just memory-holed it from... um From Geordie's Antics. And yes, you're right, Holmesy. I cannot stand an early crow. i'm a big fan of modesty. I think you should wait till the end of the game to make a comment on not only your own player, but your your mate's players as well.
00:04:31
Lew
And um yeah, unfortunately, i wasn't able to watch the game on Friday night. I had a function. but So yes, tick on the beers, Holmesy. But at at halftime, Geordie messages me and says, oh, Zach Bailey, man.
00:04:46
Lew
Now, good. I'll check the message, put it back in my pocket. That's great. Sounds like he's doing well. um Yeah, well, he was up until that message. And then after halftime, just absolutely turned to pus and went on from, I think it was 47 halftime score 61.
00:05:09
Lew
Barely went near it. And yeah, it was well and truly Geordie's fault. I place full blame on him and that's why he hasn't rocked up tonight. I've given him a good serve and and I think he's scared of me now.
00:05:22
Holmesy
i am I am a big, big believer that our fantasy group chats have special magical powers. The amount of times that the Moz goes out, sometimes it's intentional, sometimes it's not. And I'll put my hand up again. So I was i was very big at championing Dyson Sharp this week. I said it on Selby's podcast and in the Trade Insights that I was going Sharp overcoming. I thought he was the better player. The better scorer, the better option. I wasn't buying into the the coming hype after the Eagles game.
00:05:54
Holmesy
But I did mention that if Jagger was going to get a loopable score in the midfield, that I was going to be pivoting to Roby so that I could get that that forward line rookie in. And then when Dyson
Trade Strategies and Player Evaluations
00:06:05
Holmesy
Sharp was on 30 just before quarter time, full-time CBA role and looking elite,
00:06:11
Holmesy
Yes, Louis, I did come into the group chat and I said, oh i knew I knew Sharp was the one that I wanted. And then lo and behold, broken shoulder, whatever it was, and he's he's out for four to six.
00:06:23
Holmesy
So I'll put my hand up, Louis. I apologize.
00:06:25
Lew
You did it again, mate.
00:06:25
Holmesy
May have been so maybe may be semi-intentional.
00:06:26
Lew
I caught the double Moz, the double Moz. So I won't be sharing my trades this week. That will remain a mystery. ah None of you boys will, um, will be privy to that information, but, um, yeah, look sharp looks great.
00:06:41
Lew
So, uh, hopefully it's not too long of an injury layoff. a broken shoulder doesn't sound too good though. I don't suspect he'll be back in the next couple of weeks, but, um,
00:06:50
Holmesy
Nah, I don't think it was broken. I think they announced today that he doesn't need surgery, but I think it's a yeah four to six week strengthening process. Harmi?
00:06:58
Jon Harmey
I assume that that was the triple Moz, in fact, Lou, because I know you were pretty big on bringing in Myles Bergman last week. assume you brought him in as well for his toe injury.
00:07:08
Lew
No, yes. So ah i am definitely due some thanks and praise from any of the listeners that listened to my advice last week. Was it a 17, Mr. John Harmy?
00:07:18
Jon Harmey
Yeah. Yeah, was.
00:07:20
Lew
Yeah, if this is just the story of Myles Bergman's career, unfortunately. He gets he gets injured at inopportune times and and often on quite low scores.
00:07:30
Lew
So he might be one that we're discussing in six to eight weeks time when he when he's about 450K to bring in as ah as a 23rd premium perhaps. But um yeah, that that that's certainly not ideal.
00:07:41
Holmesy
yeah
00:07:43
Lew
And for those that did bring him in, is ah it's an extremely um stiff hand to be dealt.
00:07:49
Holmesy
and uh harmy you're not often right but when you write you're right you're right i want to apologize you were right i was wrong you're tall i'm small you're attractive i'm just average looking jordan to go he may 118, went on with it after halftime.
00:08:08
Holmesy
670k forward, looked unreal, midfield roll. Surely you're going there this week.
00:08:15
Jon Harmey
Well, I suppose if you had the ability to, Holmesy, you'd transfer me the 50,000 extra that I'm going to have to cost to bring him in, plus the extra 50-odd points that I've just lost is after his 118 on the weekend.
00:08:31
Jon Harmey
But look, I just want to say thank you to those that reached out and rightfully pointed out the floor in Holmesy's comments on the podcast last couple of weeks.
00:08:45
Lew
Hang on, what's happened to Rowan Marshall though?
00:08:48
Holmesy
ah
00:08:49
Jon Harmey
Hold on.
00:08:51
Lew
69 on the weekend.
00:08:53
Jon Harmey
Hey, Rowan, just hold on.
00:08:53
Holmesy
You did come into the group chat about that actually.
00:08:56
Jon Harmey
Rowan Marshall's break-even was about 40. So, again, is that outscored? Louie.
00:09:03
Lew
so you're you're technically not wrong.
00:09:04
Holmesy
ah you... at you just remember You just reminded me, Louis. So i i was chatting to Jordy on whenever the Saints played that night. There was another game going on at the same time Baz was playing. I was like, oh, what's going on with Baz? And Jordy goes, oh, I've actually switched over to the other game. I want to get a look at Rowan Marshall. And I think he scored three points for the rest of the game.
00:09:25
Jon Harmey
Uh-oh. oh
00:09:27
Holmesy
Oh, Jordy, we love you. All right, let's get stuck into the last round. Louis, kick us off, mate. How'd you go? Where's the rank sitting? And what are your picks?
00:09:34
Lew
Yes, I am the lowest scorer. I scored the 1964 inclusive of a donut. Certainly not ideal. ah First one in in probably a number of years, actually. ah I was just served a pretty bad hand here. i had... um Had Jai Sorong, who was out, and Lockie Jakes, who was out.
00:09:56
Lew
Had Todd Marshall, who was named out. And um Sam Grill was riding in defense at D6. And unfortunately, he was a late out, which meant that I got Michael Selwood's
Injury Impacts and Team Management
00:10:14
Lew
74, but I didn't really because I also had Nassai Wanganin-Miller, who was another late out. So even though I had the emergency, I still copped the donut. It was extremely unfortunate. i um There was nothing I could do, and I i was pretty pretty flat by that. um
00:10:31
Lew
yeah Not great, but anyway, so that puts me out to a rank of 25,884.
00:10:39
Lew
Somebody's got to represent the dossier ranks every single year. and Unfortunately, I've drawn the short straw on that one. Hopefully, we can send that northwards.
00:10:46
Holmesy
Oh, Louis, before you do that, um I'm not sure whether you check our old PodPod group chat, the one that still has Dossie and Stato in it. Harmy, did you see when Dossie came in on on Sunday and showed us his trades of Nassaya to Harry Edwards?
00:11:01
Lew
ah
00:11:04
Jon Harmey
Yes.
00:11:05
Lew
I did see that. Yeah. ah For an eight.
00:11:09
Holmesy
I'm convinced there's, there's too much data here now.
00:11:09
Jon Harmey
ah
00:11:13
Holmesy
He does that for content, right? Like purely like over at super coach this week, he was running the whole dossies donuts thing where he was deliberately picking a donut to better his side long-term. And then obviously Naz was out. So he had, he got the two it's gotta be content, right?
00:11:29
Lew
So it was Wanganin Miller to Harry Edwards.
00:11:32
Holmesy
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:33
Lew
ah Well, we're going to have to headhunt him for the podcast next year and it might make me look a little bit better than what I am. um
00:11:42
Jon Harmey
He's a legend.
00:11:44
Holmesy
Give your peaks, mate.
00:11:46
Lew
Anyway, Stater Pick of the Week, I will be giving to Michael Selwood for the 74. He looked phenomenal against Port Adelaide. Unfortunately, he looked really, really good and has probably been one of the better rookie picks of the year, in my opinion, from from the get-go. So quite happy to have taken the punt on him.
00:12:07
Lew
And the Dossie pick of the week, oh I'm going to give it to my boy Tanner Bruhn, who I was big on all preseason.
00:12:12
Jon Harmey
Mm-hmm. yep
00:12:15
Lew
Probably one that we were hoping could just finish strong before jumping off into another premium. I think coaches were all sort of circling on that one. 63, just not good enough, but...
00:12:27
Lew
Going to give a little nod or tip of the cap to Zach Bailey at 61 as well, who on debut just wasn't good enough. on I'm not as flat on that one. I think he will be a top six forward just with ah the hand that we've been dealt in terms of what's available to us as a forward. But yeah, hopefully that can come good over the next six weeks.
00:12:51
Holmesy
Yeah, that one was just a bit unexplainable, really. the The entire Brisbane team basically didn't touch it in the second half as as Carlton came roaring back. Harmi, how'd you go this week?
00:13:04
Jon Harmey
Yeah, put an extra point on the gap between Lou and Di with 1.965. I didn't have the donut though. I can't really even include that. The entire team was terrible.
00:13:19
Jon Harmey
That puts my rank to 7.930. Lost ranking positions for the week. So, That's great. That's a lot, isn't it? um State O' Pick of the Week, similar to Lou.
00:13:34
Jon Harmey
The emergency coming off the um off the back row to save my defence when Naz is out was Josh Lindsay, 84 points. Just awesome. That was very helpful. Thanks for that. And then I think this man's been in my State O' Pick or Dossie Peak every week since I traded him in.
00:13:56
Jon Harmey
But he's back on the dossie picks. Connor McDonald, 47, could not get near it whatsoever this week. So the old loose forward line player that runs away from the ball did get burnt by his teammates several times as well. So that's where that's where i was at for the
00:14:16
Holmesy
Yeah, man, he's been good. I was at that game. It was just so, so fast. You know, Dylan Moore barely touched it as well. Nick Watson was was playing very well, but pure impact. It just seems like those half forwards against Frio just didn't really get near it. hill He'll bounce back, but yeah, you don't want a a floor of 40, that's for sure.
00:14:35
Holmesy
I was next. So I had the 2151 this week, which has brought my rank in from about 10,900 into gone and picks of week here. But...
00:14:49
Holmesy
lo's gone in and just changed all my ah sta on dossy picks are the weekia but What did we do here? I will give my Stato pick of the week to Baz for a bit of a bounce back. i had the VC on Archie Roberts all week and then on Saturday morning decided to get cute and back in the Grundy the grundy form and switched a VC over to him. So that 54, 55 was definitely not needed. So Baz stepping up in a time of need to get 127 as captain.
00:15:24
Holmesy
um was was very, very good. And apologies to Nathan and Jordy. I ah didn't show my best over the weekend. I think Baz got to 60 quite quickly in that third quarter and didn't touch it for about 15 minutes and started getting a little bit antsy. But yeah, 50 point last quarter definitely got the job done.
00:15:42
Holmesy
And the Dossie pick of the week, Harmy, we might not be able to get rid of him this week because of the Nassai bullet, which we're going to get to. But Josh Rochelle, 66.
00:15:51
Jon Harmey
So bad.
00:15:53
Holmesy
And Louis, you talked about this as well in the in the chats over the weekend, but just sulking, right? So doesn't have the role anymore, playing forward, doesn't look interested.
00:16:05
Holmesy
Man, he's got to go. out Selby on his podcast today, so first six rounds averaging 94 with the 58% centre bounces and the last three rounds since, I think it's about 24% centre bounces and dropping and and averaging 66. So that's, you know, Leo Lombard's done that basically over the last three. So he's got to go, but, you know, what do we do?
00:16:26
Lew
He's got to go He's got to go. He's not going to get the role, in my opinion.
00:16:28
Jon Harmey
Oh.
00:16:29
Lew
I think that Matthew Nix has been one that you know we can kind of predict over the last couple of years where he's a little bit stubborn and he does like to go with a certain formation and he will stick with it.
00:16:42
Lew
Clearly, Josh Rochelle isn't part of that mix as much as what we would have liked and... It's just got to happen. And, you know, the sulking as well just just shits me to tears.
00:16:55
Lew
ah As a fantasy coach, you you do kind of want them in there and you and you hope that it's going to make a difference, but it's not going to make a difference, mate. So, yeah, upset by that.
00:17:07
Holmesy
he
00:17:07
Lew
But Josh Rochelle needs to grow up.
00:17:08
Holmesy
He can look so good. He can look so good at times. But, yeah, he just, yeah, no good. Quick update on the Pod Pod Challenge. So we still have three coaches inside the top 100, but a bit of a a shift this week. so Knocked Loose is now the new leader, sitting at an overall rank of 22. Then we have the Powerhouse, who's come back in.
00:17:32
Holmesy
now ranked 59 off the back of a twenty two thirty four this week. And then Happy Grillmore now ranked at 62 after a ah bit of a ah smaller week for him, but still sitting inside the top 100.
00:17:45
Holmesy
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00:17:58
Holmesy
Boys, let's get stuck into our hot
Managing Injuries and Matches
00:18:01
Holmesy
topics. and I know we've been recording a little later in the week this year compared to our Monday, Lou, but that sometimes gives us a bit of ah some different talking points to the other podcast when some news comes out later in the week. And we did get the dreaded news today. Nassai Wanganin-Milera flew up to Darwin and was the manage laid out. And it's now been confirmed that he is out for three weeks minimum.
00:18:26
Holmesy
Coming into the buys, I don't think there's a world where we hold him with having the cash that he has. You know, I mean, let's talk about that first. I suppose I've just assumed, but Louie, is there any world where we hold and we upgrade around him or do you think it's just we've got to get creative with these trades and and move him on?
00:18:43
Lew
No, i think there would have been one, but as we are approaching the buyers, I think we're, what, three weeks away now. So it's it's probably untenable, I think. It's time for Wanganine Miller to be traded out.
00:18:58
Lew
Thankfully, he was rested last week, quote unquote, and he's not going to lose any cash on what he's worth. So, yeah, four weeks really in totality. It's it's one that we're just going to have to trade. and And thankfully, he's at a, not an inflated price, but at a nice price that we can actually move on to somebody who's going to give us um something half decent. So, yeah.
00:19:24
Lew
Yeah, certainly disappointing, especially for the coaches that traded him in over the last couple of weeks. And to have Richmond this week is a bit of a kick in the guts as well. So, um yeah, he's got to go, doesn't he, Holmesy?
00:19:39
Holmesy
Mate, wait yeah, so ah yeah two weeks ago, I traded him in for that tagged game against Carlton, got the 104, which was good to break through the tag, but definitely wasn't the ceiling we were after.
00:19:50
Holmesy
And then he has Gold Coast Richmond, two of the easiest matchups for inside mids going around. You know, he's ah he's an Indigenous lad going up to Darwin. We know they love those games playing in front of that crowd and obviously doesn't play that game. And then we just saw what Rankin did against Richmond. He would have been almost everyone's captain option this week.
00:20:10
Holmesy
So that one really hurts. Hami, I know you've got the notebook out and and no doubt you would have had a think about what you're going to look to do with Nassaya. I suppose there's probably two sort of camps because we are starting to see some of these rookies drop in cash? um So is it ah is it a traditional one down rookie and then just take Nas up to the best underpriced premium defender available to carry cash next week for maybe a double upgrade? Or do we try and get a little bit creative and and maybe try and fix two holes on field at the same time?
00:20:42
Jon Harmey
No, I think that you're more likely to to be doing some sideways trading this week, unfortunately, which doesn't feel as though you're improving your team. But when you're looking at a zero, I mean, buddy, you've got to do it, don't you?
00:20:55
Jon Harmey
So, yeah, just in the five minutes I had, mate, I really like Whitfield. I mean, he's the one I would probably prefer to have most out of everybody.
00:21:05
Jon Harmey
But Dane Zorko is another option for me. But I really need to just have a bit more of a look through um Yeah, have a look through.
00:21:12
Lew
Archie Roberts.
00:21:14
Jon Harmey
ah Hold on.
00:21:14
Holmesy
Archie, join the train!
00:21:15
Lew
He's got Richmond and West Coast in two of his next three.
00:21:18
Jon Harmey
Right.
00:21:21
Jon Harmey
Archie Roberts.
00:21:22
Lew
That could be pretty delectable.
00:21:22
Jon Harmey
Let's just have a quick look.
00:21:24
Holmesy
How can you watch Essendon Games, Harmy, without having Archie Roberts?
00:21:30
Lew
hope he hasn't watched Essendon games in years.
00:21:30
Jon Harmey
Archie Roberts.
00:21:31
Holmesy
What Wiley Wiley goes through his notebook, Louis. I actually, actually spoke about this with lemon, um, the other day, the Archie Roberts pick as expensive as he is now.
00:21:42
Holmesy
He's actually at the point where if you don't have him, you you can't compete this season with the numbers that he's putting up.
00:21:49
Jon Harmey
I wish
00:21:49
Lew
Well, this is almost where we were at with Wanganeen Miller ah last season, wasn't it?
00:21:50
Holmesy
Like.
00:21:54
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:21:55
Lew
We go, oh, we'll wait for the tag, we'll wait for the tag.
00:21:55
Holmesy
Yep.
00:21:58
Lew
and he's not He's not the player that Wanganeen Miller is, but that tag's not going to come. And those scores look like they're going to keep adding up.
00:22:04
Holmesy
no
00:22:07
Lew
And as the season goes on players get tired and Essendon want to protect Leeds.
00:22:13
Holmesy
late
00:22:15
Lew
Sorry. Sorry.
00:22:16
Jon Harmey
ah wish
00:22:17
Lew
losses stop the leads from being as much. I think it's going to be something that continues on. So look, he's he's not cheap. So I'm certainly not advocating for it. It flies in the face of everything we sort of like to spruik as fantasy coaches these days, certainly. And Sinclair does have Richmond, by the way, too. So that might be a nice one to look at. But yeah, man, Archie Roberts might be a tough one to to watch over the next three weeks is all I'm saying.
00:22:46
Holmesy
Yeah, I think, and then this is just my initial thoughts and it kind of sucks because obviously we didn't know he was going to be managed last week, but I haven't carried over a lot of cash from last week. I think I've got forty k which...
00:23:01
Holmesy
you know Some coaches are going to have probably less and and some might have carried over more. But if you're looking to fix a Nassai Wanganin-Milera and one of these other holes in your side, whether it be a Josh Rochelle, who's now continually bleeding cash. So he lost 29K, has a break even at Sorry, that's that's sorry break he lost 37K,
Evaluating Player Value and Trades
00:23:24
Holmesy
breakeven 110. You've got JHF, which some coaches traded into.
00:23:28
Holmesy
he has the breakeven of 121. He's bleeding cash now. Tanner now has a breakeven of 96. The role is still changing week on week, and that forward role on the weekend was not good for his scoring and and has Brisbane.
00:23:41
Holmesy
You've got a Murphy Reid, who's now priced at 88. So he's going to start to go back probably, although he does have Essendon. You throw in a Jack Steele, you throw in, you know, Sam Walsh is probably not in that category, but he's not getting it done.
00:23:54
Holmesy
All of these other forwards, Chad Warner, Zach Bailey, Connor Mack, take your pick if they're all starting to max out. You don't have enough cash to fix Zorko to a genuine top six and then also do anything meaningful on the other side, Lou. So what are you thinking? Would you take the haircut in the forward line or in defense?
00:24:16
Lew
Oh, I think I would rather take it in the forward line, right? Like it's, that's ah that's a line that's not giving up as many points as what any other line is at the moment, don't you think?
00:24:30
Holmesy
Yeah, I would agree. I just, I hate burning trades in the forward line. I was actually considering before the news, I was considering bringing another rookie on field in the forward line to bolster things up elsewhere. Cause I'm just sick of these quote unquote premiums outside of your, I mean, Cozzy pick it this week, but you want Cozzy, you want Petrarca, you want Shazoo and you probably want Flanders.
00:24:53
Holmesy
And then it's just a lotto on the other guys week to week about what they're actually going to put up. So it just feels so wrong burning a trade in the forward line.
00:25:03
Lew
Yeah, it does, but that's probably the area where we can sort of match the the top end, you know, a little bit more comfortably than what we can in any other line. I'd be i'd be curious to hear what you're thinking about that, John Harmy.
00:25:18
Jon Harmey
I just spent the entire time seeing if I could afford Archie Roberts. lo um Look, I think we said at the start of the season, defenders are where the points are and really training out NAS to a decent defender that is going to score the points should probably be the priority, I think.
00:25:24
Lew
So did I. Yeah.
00:25:39
Holmesy
Yeah, all right, let's talk about him then, Harmi. So I think straight off the bat, and it definitely comes with risk, sorry, but Dane Zorko priced at 101 down at 960-odd
00:25:55
Holmesy
I think he is ripe. Now, there probably is a bit of game theory here and that if you're sitting up there in the top 1,000, trading into a Dane Zorko who's coming off a calf, 36 years old, we've been saying it for a couple of years now, but that certainly is a risk.
00:26:12
Holmesy
But for some coaches like us that are are out in the dossier ranks and taking a swing is probably something needed. I think Zorko's right for the picking this week. He has a break even at 130, but he does play Geelong. His numbers against Geelong have been ridiculous over the last few years.
00:26:28
Holmesy
And then he comes into a nice run. Lewis is taking some money from Naz down to Zorko to free up maybe 100, 120, depending on what you've got left in the bank, to then put on top of a Rochelle or on top of a Broon.
00:26:44
Holmesy
Is that something that you know you'd you'd look at
00:26:47
Lew
Yeah, I think certainly when we think about ceiling, especially in the defensive line, Dane Zorko comes straight to the top of the mind. and We just spoke about Archie Roberts and what he's putting up, which is ridiculous, and and he's done it multiple times now. But in terms of players that can replicate something similar...
00:27:07
Lew
I think Dane Zorko is that guy, to be honest. I think he's probably next cab off the rank, actually. So at $963K, he comes in at a nice price. You're going to get a good value for him there. and um Yeah, I think he's probably the guy you're mainly looking at, especially if you don't own Lockie Whitfield, but you're still looking at about 100k price difference there. So um for me, I think Dane Zorko is probably the best option. And i would assume most coaches wouldn't actually have him just based off of his injury a couple of weeks ago now.
00:27:41
Holmesy
So, Harmi, if you're looking at the top end and you really just want to bank someone that you're not going to have to trade, not going to get rested, touch wood outside of an injury. So, we spoke about Archie Roberts already, priced at 118.
00:27:55
Holmesy
You've got Whitfield priced at 110, Lockie Ash priced at 109 and Sinclair priced at 106. Do you see any value in those players or do you think you kind of steer clear a bit?
00:28:09
Holmesy
Although Sinclair this week, no Naz again, no Wilkie loves playing Richmond. That, I mean, that's a ceiling game waiting to happen, but 106 is quite expensive.
00:28:18
Lew
You're not touching Lockie Ash, surely, as a midfielder.
00:28:21
Jon Harmey
No, I wouldn't. i out here wit Whitfield and Sinclair, I'd definitely put an argument up for Whitfield. He's bit down on his starting price and I felt like he had an upside at the beginning of the year.
00:28:34
Jon Harmey
And Sinclair, yep, I think for the reasons you said, he should be the main distributor of the back line. No Wilkie,
Midfield and Forward Strategies
00:28:40
Jon Harmey
no Nass. So I think that he should have a good run in the short term.
00:28:45
Holmesy
Is there any interest in the value defenders that we've been speaking about for the last couple of weeks? so Nick Newman still priced at 89, had the tougher game against Brisbane on the weekend, but did line up as a winger at times in that game, which is a
00:29:01
Jon Harmey
for the for the first half, then he went back into the back line in the second half. That's it worked.
00:29:05
Holmesy
which is the other thing we didn't speak about. So Voss resigning today, caretaker coach,
00:29:08
Lew
Hot topic. ah
00:29:11
Holmesy
Surely Newman's back in defense. So priced at 89, Harmy, plays the Bulldogs.
00:29:15
Jon Harmey
If you want to win games, he would be. How stupid. Like the wing. Fair dinker.
00:29:20
Lew
Is he back in defense though? oh You know, he's...
00:29:22
Jon Harmey
Yeah, he was. He was taking kick-ins, haven't Yeah.
00:29:24
Lew
Yeah, but under a new coach, you know, he's nearly Stato's age at this point.
00:29:24
Holmesy
At the end he was.
00:29:26
Jon Harmey
Oh, right. Yeah.
00:29:30
Lew
So do do they start to look towards the future and, you know, throw a couple of different guys down back instead? And, well, I don't know, Army, but Wayne Dirksen is about to ascend.
00:29:37
Jon Harmey
Who?
00:29:40
Holmesy
Wade Dirksen.
00:29:41
Jon Harmey
No.
00:29:44
Lew
yeah. No, this is the thing about a new coach though, isn't it? And certainly with interim coaches is you don't really know what's going to happen. And um it basically is a bit of an audition for Josh Fraser as well.
00:29:59
Lew
He's going to want this team to to look the goods and that doesn't necessarily mean Ws for him.
00:29:59
Jon Harmey
Yeah, it is.
00:30:04
Lew
It you know it could just be a more attacking brand, um you know, there's going to be a lot of different ways that he's going to look at the game style and try to form his own um his own game style. And, you know, potentially that's not going to work for us in terms of what we're seeing from from the Blues. So I think this is one that we're going to have to keep a really close eye on over the next couple of weeks. And if we can identify...
00:30:30
Lew
not only who is going to take full advantage of a new game style, but who is also going to take a little bit of a hit. And I know a lot of coaches have a Jagger Smith and a Sam Walsh. While there might be a small little asterisk, I don't think those are going to be the guys are going to be affected. But certainly some of those ah more sort of 10 22, 23 guys are going to be the ones that might have some role changes that we can pick up some easy points off of.
00:30:59
Jon Harmey
Yeah, it makes me disappointed that i traded out Jacob Smith um last week because he's the sort of guy that I expect um will get a plum roll and a nice run coming up. But I guess the thing is, the fans are expecting them to try to win every game.
00:31:16
Jon Harmey
And I think that Newman is their best defender and that's where he should be playing.
00:31:22
Holmesy
Than Harmi. Yeah. So I kind of agree. I think I'd want to see it for another week. if he If he goes well and he's still priced in the low 90s, I think that's still something I can look at.
00:31:33
Holmesy
But Bailey Dale now priced at 94. Butterick came in and far out. Scored 114. Was everywhere. And outside of the the monopoly of kick-ins that Bailey Dale had, they just moved the ball really well against Port Adelaide and and he wasn't needed to mop up back there. So price at 94, that boat's probably gone for Bailey Dale.
00:31:54
Jon Harmey
Yeah, I do feel like it's quite a high price point for him.
00:31:59
Holmesy
Yeah, I think I'd agree as well, just with the data that we've seen over the last couple of years. Louis, the midfield, Bont, clearly the number one target this week in terms of where other coaches are going. I think he's already had more than 5,000 coaches trade him in, had the 143 on the weekend.
00:32:17
Holmesy
They keep talking about this knee injury, but just keeps getting it done. Would you be happy trading into Bont for under Emil this week or are you still just waiting for that management injury to start to get a hold of him?
00:32:33
Lew
To be honest, I am. Look, 996K for Bond is an unbelievable bargain. and i can I'm not going to knock coaches taking the risk on it. I think I'm probably negligent in not taking the same risk based on where I'm ranked at.
00:32:49
Lew
But, you know, we've been hearing for weeks, it's a knee, it's a heel, it's a knee, it's a heel. Apparently it's both. ah Will he get a rest? Yes, he won't get a rest. Yes, he will get a rest. It changes just so often throughout the week.
00:33:03
Lew
um And it was a pretty late call going into this Port Adelaide game that he would actually play. Yes, he scored the 143. it was a pretty terrible game and a sort of game that he would be able to...
00:33:15
Lew
to take advantage of. Port were terrible. I wouldn't be surprised if he's one that does get a rest in the next couple of weeks, if I'm honest. But like i said, oh there's no way I would talk any coach out of not bringing this guy in because it's Marcus Bontempelli. He's probably the best guy in the comp in terms of fantasy. And I wish Jordy were here.
00:33:39
Lew
If he were, I would ask, what did ChatGPT say? Should you bring him in?
00:33:45
Holmesy
I think if you were if you've been keen on a humour cluggage over the last, sorry, few weeks, still priced at 86. Still value, little bit nervous about playing Geelong this week.
00:33:58
Holmesy
Mullen has gone to him the last few times. I still think Neil's in career best form at the moment, which is saying a lot because he's ah a dual Brownlow medalist. Will Ashcroft playing good footy as well.
00:34:09
Holmesy
think you can still do it, but probably needed to do it a couple of weeks ago. tim Taranto priced at 87, getting cheap, has a good buy around, but I'm not sure we do that just yet, but definitely one to monitor.
00:34:21
Holmesy
Finn Callaghan's been a name that some coaches have traded in over the last couple. I have myself as well. Does seem like he's playing a very high possession, low fantasy scoring type of footy at the moment with GWS being quite bad from a footy perspective. And I'm a little bit nervous that ah a ah Hoff runs with him this week like they did with Cozzi last week. So for that reason, even though Eagles is a good matchup, I'd probably be steering clear. Harmi, are there any other midfield targets that you don't mind the look of this week? Or are we shopping in the defensive line and the forward line, which we'll get to?
00:34:58
Jon Harmey
Hmm. Noah Anderson, we didn't really, you didn't mention him at all. Had a better game. um
00:35:06
Holmesy
Yeah, it's just the buy around, Harmi. And actually, while you're padding, I'll just get his run up because I remember looking at it and I think there's a few tags on the horizon as well.
00:35:18
Jon Harmey
Yep. expect we'll talk about Jordan Dagoe in the forward line discussion rather than the midfielders.
00:35:26
Lew
That is some terrible padding.
00:35:26
Holmesy
There you Harmi. So, it's yeah, that's, yeah, far out.
00:35:27
Lew
You can't believe you've just brought up Jordan He's got form though, I'm Z.
00:35:32
Holmesy
Harmi, Harmi, Harmi.
00:35:33
Jon Harmey
Isaac Rankin, he scored 160 on the...
00:35:34
Holmesy
Yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there.
00:35:38
Lew
He asked me to pad for Tom Sparrow about six weeks ago and that was tough work too.
00:35:42
Holmesy
Yeah. So, Harmi.
00:35:43
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:35:43
Holmesy
So, this this is a Gold Coast run for Noah Anderson. So, has Port Adelaide this week, relatively soft up in Darwin, but then has North, which is going to be a tag.
00:35:54
Holmesy
Then the bye. Then they have Brisbane, Geelong, Hawthorne as the three games after that. So, that's probably as tough a matchup with a couple of tags in there
Forward Line Strategies and Trade Evaluations
00:36:04
Holmesy
as you'll get.
00:36:04
Jon Harmey
Yeah, so I had three.
00:36:05
Holmesy
So for that reason, I'm a no one no Randerson. Louie.
00:36:10
Lew
I think we're just seeing the Hardwick game style take effect though as well. Like I know there's probably three to four great midfielders in that team right now and they they probably split chips a little bit too much, but we knew that Hardwick wasn't a massive you know fantasy scorer in terms of his game style. And I think that's...
00:36:29
Lew
starting to come to fruition as all these blokes sort of start to learn exactly what they're doing. So, ah yes, he's he's been a victim of the tag, but I think that he's probably matured a little bit as a player and realized that he doesn't have to be necessarily that guy um and he can take a step back while some of the other guys do the work as well and, you know, really operate well as a team. So, yeah.
00:36:53
Lew
Yeah, the the Gold Coast Suns mids outside of Petrarca, who we probably would be sceptical on as well if you didn't have that forward status. I think just ones that we want to be a little bit careful of.
00:37:06
Holmesy
I'll tell you what, though, Lou, John Noble hasn't got the message far out.
00:37:09
Jon Harmey
Ugh.
00:37:10
Holmesy
Pretty much back-to-back 140s in the last two weeks. That would have been an unreal unreal trading. But, yeah, I agree combined with the fact they're still going to add Matt Rau back to that side. So, you know, what does that do from a a fantasy scoring perspective too with the market share? I think you just let that one go through to the keeper. But let's talk the forwards, Harmi.
00:37:30
Holmesy
One name I want to ask you about, Cozzy Pickett. So it was very clear on the weekend after he had that high bump on Waterman and they were obviously running Hoff with him that that had a ah real effect on him and he wasn't able to get in the game worried about you know potentially ah an impending suspension, which is not the case. He's free to play.
00:37:51
Holmesy
If coaches, and I know some good coaches did it last week paying 106, Is it now just time to grab Cozzy in the forward line because he's dropped, you know, 40K, 50K, whatever it was from last week? Or even with that high break, even game against Hawthorne, even if he tons, he's probably still going to lose 30K and you you grab him the week after. What are your thoughts? Because I'm kind of torn on this one.
00:38:17
Jon Harmey
102 is probably a fair price for what he is. Hawthorne this week, not an easy match-up. um ah Look, I don't think it is necessarily the week to bring him in. You don't have to bring him in this week.
00:38:33
Jon Harmey
So I think that's probably where I'd be on it.
00:38:39
Holmesy
Louis, do you have any other thoughts? Because I know Jordy is pretty big on bringing in Cozzy this week just because he can get him.
00:38:45
Lew
Yes, so I think he's the best available at 970k. That's probably still presenting value for me. I was interested in Emil last week. so look, based on his form, he he's done it for long enough now. and I don't think he's that sporadic mid-forward now that we we sort of probably thought the last couple years. He he is that guy for Melbourne and...
00:39:10
Lew
Yeah, look, the tags will come, but I think that this is one that you just jump on and and you ride for the rest of the year. And he's got a quite a advantageous buy-around as well. So I'd take it and run for the hills.
00:39:23
Holmesy
Petrarca, I think, is in the same boat as Noel Anderson, as we spoke about before, has the tough run and the the round 12 bye. If coaches like myself, you know, we still don't have him, I think we just need to hold firm and try to try to make him ah a bye round upgrade at some point. Hopefully we can get him for a...
00:39:43
Holmesy
you know high 90s, mid 90s price range at some point rather than the 101 that we're we'd have to pay this week. But no doubt we're going to want him in our sides to finish the year. Louis, I'll throw you some names as these are the guys that you know have been getting it done for large parts of the year so far, but are you know relatively expensive and are starting to find themselves on the way down. So JHF price at 95, Justin McInerney price at 91, Bailey at 91, C-Mac at 89, Sparrow at 89, Warner at 88. And we'll talk about ranking in a second.
00:40:17
Holmesy
Do you have any confidence in training in any of those players this week? Or do you think with that forward line, as we mentioned, we we target some of the value guys that are a bit lower, which we'll speak about in a second?
00:40:28
Lew
Yeah, it's an interesting list, Holmes. What strikes me about these guys is they're very impactful in the right game, but when things don't necessarily go their way or if they get attention, it it goes south quite quickly and they're probably landing somewhere in the middle now. So JHF is a great example of that. His his great games are great. His poor games are pretty poor. So JMAC...
00:40:53
Lew
91, I think that's a fair price. Zach Bailey at 91. Look, I would say just based on the ah eye test that he is that guy, but I did read a stat from Selby, subscribe to Marrera's Magic, ah that 99 over the last 20 games prior to last week, obviously, is is probably flying in the face of that at the moment.
00:40:59
Jon Harmey
Mm-hmm.
00:41:14
Lew
So perhaps that is a little bit underpriced.
00:41:14
Holmesy
can we Can we just talk about that a bit a bit, Lou, though? Because I agree and I've i've looked into Bailey a lot this year. But I think those numbers are a little bit deceiving just because Lockie Neal missed a fair bit of footy late last year. So that's ah one of their best on ballers out of the side. And then Huma Cluggage didn't play much to start the this year either. And then he's been slow to get going lately.
00:41:40
Holmesy
and now he's up and going. Do you think Bailey can be that guy in a side that has Lockie Neal, Hugh McCluggage, Will Ashcroft, Josh Dunkley? Like we know Brisbane are a high-scoring side, but it's still going to be, you know, have his work cut out for him to average 90-plus, right? Like we're going to see some ceiling scores, but we have seen 60s and even a 30 this year.
00:42:02
Lew
Gee, this would have been some good advice last week. Thanks for that, Holmesy. But... ah
00:42:07
Holmesy
Were you on the pod last week? I can't even remember.
00:42:10
Lew
I've probably not taken a bet.
00:42:11
Jon Harmey
Yes, he was.
00:42:12
Lew
But... um
00:42:12
Jon Harmey
He was.
00:42:14
Lew
You're right. You are right. This is why Bailey has been a tricky own over the years because you know he is an elite high half forward, sort of small forward type that sneaks into the midfield. and He does have his big games and then yeah when the attention comes or or when the the game doesn't necessarily swing his way, he he can put up some stinkers. Yeah.
00:42:35
Lew
This is this is you know sort of how I started this conversation is that these guys are so impactful, but when things don't go their way, it it just really doesn't work out for us. And that's where they land in that awkward 85 to 90 range. So, yeah, it's it's a great point, Holmes. He's going to struggle to find points unless one of those guys goes down with injury. But...
00:42:58
Lew
And in saying all of that as well, these forwards, they're not exactly presenting for us. I think there's a couple that are really putting their hand up as as top you know two to three guys and then there there's a bit of a gap and then there's probably six to ten blokes that ah that are going around this rate. So pick the best one. Personally, I think that...
00:43:20
Lew
You can't really go wrong if you're picking a player from a decent side, if they are going to be playing predominantly forward. And and hopefully, Zach Bailey is that guy. So, yeah, maybe he's a little bit more fairly priced. But if I can spin a yarn to to make him sound like he's going to be a 99 guy, certainly with him in my side, I'm going to take it. So...
00:43:43
Holmesy
right.
00:43:43
Lew
That's where I am with him.
00:43:45
Lew
and Clearly, you're you're probably thinking that 99 is not reflective of what he will be, but surely you're thinking he's going to be a 90 plus guy and and sort of look like a top six guy at least up until this post round 17 DPP additions.
00:44:03
Holmesy
Yeah, I think he's a high 80s, 90 guy. i can't do it this week. They play the Thursday night game. So if I'm looking at Azorko, there's no way i'm I'm locking in both trades on a Thursday night before we see any of the other teams and the carnage and things like that.
00:44:18
Holmesy
I think I'm more likely to to take a punt a little bit lower. Harmi, Isaac Rankin, now priced at 88. I think he jumped, don't fact fact check me on this, but it was over 80K this week.
00:44:32
Holmesy
Frico put out the stat, 96% midfield, forward. That change is real. My concerns are round 12 by, we've missed the ceiling score. The ceiling that we didn't even know he had. Shout out to the Traders boys, but the stat they put out that this was the first time in his career he'd gone above 120.
00:44:55
Holmesy
So come from nowhere, but Adelaide have North this week. Clearly that's going to be some kind of attention. There's no way he puts up a score in a game like that and they don't put some time into him.
00:45:07
Holmesy
Then has Hawthorne, which is a tough game. Then he has his bye. And then he goes into Geelong where O'Sheen Mullen held him to a 20 earlier on in the year. And we've seen what he's done to players like Bont and Dacos.
00:45:19
Holmesy
Is it a trap to go there this week? Or are coaches on the right track?
00:45:28
Jon Harmey
I've definitely thought about it myself. um I don't think that I'm going there. What speaks in his favour is he's still $75,000 down on his starting price, so arguably value, and he has a break-even of $31,000, which he's going to get. so um Yeah, there's definitely potential in this being a very good pick.
00:45:57
Jon Harmey
If I had a few spare trades, I'd probably go for it, but I've unfortunately got to deal with Nass, so tinkering around with my forward line isn't really as attractive as what it could be um yeah in some other weeks, I suppose.
00:46:14
Jon Harmey
He's pretty cheap still. I mean, what is he? Oh, 840. Okay, he really did bump up.
00:46:18
Holmesy
Priced at 88. Like it's it's cheap from what we've seen.
00:46:20
Jon Harmey
Mm-hmm.
00:46:22
Holmesy
But when you look at a price that figure 88, I mean, when he's putting up 160s, he could definitely be underpriced.
00:46:24
Jon Harmey
Yeah. Yep.
00:46:29
Holmesy
But I just worry with those tags.
00:46:32
Lew
Yeah, he he's one that at 88 I wouldn't talk them out of and 31 break even is nice. And we were chatting about this guy as being a top six forward for the majority of the preseason. But, you know just unpacking his stats a little bit. He had the nine tackles, which is which is great. That's certainly not going to be repeatable for him.
00:46:53
Lew
Ten marks, you know, Richmond clearly just let him run around. I'll look at the next two... matchups and And that's going to be the sort of game that teams sit up and take notice. If they're going to beat the Adelaide Crows, Isaac Rankin's clearly going to want to play a role in that. And he's probably their most damaging player that they've actually got. So, you know, I look at the next two. They've got North Melbourne.
00:47:16
Lew
They've been running a tag most weeks. Fino Sullivan's been going to somebody. And that's probably going to look like an Isaac Rankin this week.
00:47:22
Jon Harmey
Simken.
00:47:23
Lew
And Simpkins another that can certainly play that role. And then you go into the week after. Hawks, they like to play a run with as well. It changes a little bit week to week with them, but I can see them certainly doing that. And then you post-buy to the week after and you've got the Geelong Cats, which is obviously Osin Mullen, who can
Team Performance Challenges and Solutions
00:47:45
Lew
do a bit of damage. so Yeah, I'm just putting out a little bit of a flag there that you know you can't get that 162. I'm certainly not saying that you won't get a 90 average over the next two weeks, but certainly with Geelong, I think that might come down a bit, but um maybe not be the slam dunk that we would like it to be.
00:48:08
Holmesy
right, Harmy, let's get loose then. One of your bomber boys, Sam Durham in the forward line, priced at 73 before you just ah get rid of it completely.
00:48:13
Jon Harmey
Yeah.
00:48:20
Holmesy
So clear role change over the last two weeks. So he's now, where are we, Sam Durham, Over the last three weeks, sorry, he's gone 59% center bounces, 84% and then 78%. Dyson Sharp is out and he was a full-time midfielder before he went down and he was the week before. Caldwell to come back in probably, but his CBAs had dropped to 45, 57, 25 and over the last four
00:48:52
Holmesy
Could do worse than a Sam Durham. Harmy, we've always thought he had potential to break out. Yes, he's more impact and stoppages. And yes, Essendon play a transition style brand of footy.
00:49:05
Holmesy
But who do they have coming up? So Essendon play Frio this week. That's pretty tough. But then Richmond, West Coast, Carlton, Melbourne before the round 15 by.
00:49:11
Jon Harmey
richmond
00:49:16
Holmesy
Pretty much as good as it gets. Talk me out of it.
00:49:19
Jon Harmey
No, I won't talk you out of it. I mean, well,
00:49:26
Jon Harmey
Essendon's midfield, in my opinion, should be Merritt, Parrish, Caldwell, Durham. So... what
00:49:36
Holmesy
You're forgetting Robie, my boy.
00:49:37
Jon Harmey
what does what does What does the fourth best midfielder at Essendon average for the season? I'm not sure if it's going to be a lot, but what's got to be better than? About 70. So, yeah, he's better than 70, but he's I just don't feel like he's going to be the smash play. He's not somebody who's coming in priced at 70 that can get close to averaging 100. That's not going to happen. um So...
00:50:05
Jon Harmey
Yeah. Anyway, he's probably not my favourite that you've reeled off so far.
00:50:10
Holmesy
Well, he was the number one midfielder for Essendon over the last two weeks, Harmi.
00:50:11
Jon Harmey
And you have... Yeah. Yeah. Oh, number one, not number four.
00:50:15
Holmesy
um Number one, correct.
00:50:16
Jon Harmey
Sorry. Yeah, but but za Zach Merritt did score 111 on the weekend and Durham scored 70, did he?
00:50:18
Holmesy
So that's that's what I'm saying.
00:50:23
Jon Harmey
So, yeah.
00:50:24
Holmesy
He didn't score 70.
00:50:25
Jon Harmey
i mean, what did he get?
00:50:26
Holmesy
He's gone back-to-back.
00:50:26
Jon Harmey
93. 93. 93.
00:50:27
Holmesy
Hang on, Harmi. He's gone 93-91 in his last two off the back of the role change.
00:50:28
Jon Harmey
ninety three ninety three
00:50:32
Jon Harmey
Okay. Jeez, maybe I'm being a bit harsh on him.
00:50:36
Holmesy
Just in the forward line, right? if we If we can get a 90 average out of him for the next four weeks before his bye, that's a huge win in those matchups.
00:50:45
Jon Harmey
Yep, fair point.
00:50:46
Holmesy
Anyway, Wanda Ponda, we know that you're going Jordan Dugowie anyway. Priced at 71, average of 50% center bounces over the last three. is looking good, to be fair. Rowan Marshall, we're we're just not going there as much as you want to. Harmi priced at 80.
00:51:01
Holmesy
Louis, I don't think there's any other...
00:51:01
Jon Harmey
Got Richmond this week. He's got Richmond. No ruck at Richmond.
00:51:05
Lew
What about Yoey?
00:51:05
Holmesy
true yo that's what i was going to say that's what i was going to say louis so you went there right
00:51:06
Jon Harmey
yo yeah. goy
00:51:11
Lew
No, no, i went Zach Bailey in the end.
00:51:15
Jon Harmey
yeah
00:51:16
Lew
This was on the ah the advice of Geordie too. He's an absolute curse. No, um probably the more more reasonable pick. But I think this is a guy that, you know, if if you're a little bit risk averse, certainly in terms of, um you know, the injuries that Yo has copped over the last couple years, I think this is a guy that, you know, can put up some pretty consistent numbers in terms of like a 90 plus ah midfielder. And as a forward,
00:51:45
Lew
you know this This is one that I wouldn't mind taking a bit of a punt on. It's still quite cheap, 760k. um The fixture is not terrible. I mean, Giants this week is probably not too bad of a matchup, but then comes into the Pies, Essendon, Port, North, Carlton. And Adelaide, who we know putting up massive numbers. So this is a guy that I can see actually putting up something sort of north of 90, 95 over the next month and a bit. So yeah, I really don't mind this pick. I think if you can't get up to a genuine premium,
00:52:20
Lew
I really like it. And even if you can, ah I'm not sure that some of these premium forwards are necessarily giving you the confidence that you really want to pay up for them either. Like we said earlier, I think, you know, even if you're going up to sort of the 850, range, you're looking at guys like, you know, J-Mac,
00:52:40
Lew
Jeremy Cameron, Jason Horn Francis, Tuk Miller, Connor McDonald. like These guys are not that far away from an 80 every single week anyway. So yeah, I really like the value here.
00:52:53
Holmesy
Beautiful. Yeah, I don't mind it, to be fair, rather than rather than paying up. But let's get stuck into the questions. Just a reminder that the PodPod has partnered with Q Platforms again in 2026 to help answer any of your AFL fantasy questions.
00:53:09
Holmesy
Put my hand up and apologize. Work got away from me last week, so there was a few questions that I didn't get to and they expired. So I do apologize for that. Promise to be on top of that this week.
00:53:20
Holmesy
So head over to askmeonq.com forward slash pod pod AFL. The link is in the show description below and I will personally answer any of your AFL fancy questions in a really important trading round with Nassai at Wanganeen Miller at being out. But Louis, the first one here from Ben Regan. Hey team, ended up trading out my F6 last week to get the Roberts VC.
00:53:43
Holmesy
Lombard is now my F6. Do I need to get him up to a track slash Rankin or is it Farrow to Bont? So do you prioritize getting in Bont this week or do you fix that F6 position?
00:53:57
Lew
ah So, what, instead, who's going to be F6, I suppose, is what I would be asking there.
00:54:04
Jon Harmey
Lombard.
00:54:05
Holmesy
Lombard. It's got to be Lombard, yeah.
00:54:07
Lew
Yeah, look, I'd be going Farrah to Bond. Personally, I think there's probably you know potentially 40 points of upside there.
00:54:12
Jon Harmey
like that.
00:54:16
Lew
i don't mind the Lombard role at the moment. He looks like he can put up sort of 50 70 areas, and and that's not too bad when I'm looking at an F6, certainly in terms of what the other forwards are dishing up.
00:54:29
Lew
So I think I would take that opportunity to do that, just bearing in mind that potentially Bont might be due for a rest over the next couple of weeks.
00:54:39
Holmesy
Yep. I agree.
00:54:39
Lew
But if he if he was trading his f six last week to get a Roberts FC, then vc sorry then it probably wasn't too flash regardless anyway. So I think Farad of Bonds, just the pick that you go with, right?
00:54:53
Holmesy
Yeah, ah whatever it was four weeks ago, five weeks ago, i decided to play Lombard on field at F6 so I could get in Archie Roberts, cop to 30, but still way better off in the long term if you're getting the guy that's value. So, um yeah, and and the the Lombard role has been better than up around the ball.
00:55:11
Holmesy
I think the Darwin conditions actually suit him a bit as that sort of in an underground player up around the stoppage. Matt Rowe coming back in might mean that he has to play a bit more deep forward. ah But I think I'd run the risk there. And maybe there's a chance to loop. I'm not sure. But, yeah, that's the way I'd be going as well. Harmy, this one is from Fantasy Nub. So, Broon to Bont is locked in.
00:55:32
Holmesy
For the second trade, should he go Rochelle or Jagger to Durham?
00:55:32
Jon Harmey
Nice.
00:55:39
Jon Harmey
Oh, well. We're surely out.
00:55:41
Holmesy
Rochelle, surely.
00:55:43
Holmesy
Yeah, Jagger's still making money. He's going to get forward status. now I'm going to be so happy to play Jagger and Murdoch at F5 and F6 and just...
00:55:43
Jon Harmey
Yeah, we're surely out for Durham.
00:55:47
Jon Harmey
Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:52
Holmesy
bolster your side everywhere else. So I wouldn't be trading off Jagger Smith at this stage. Louis, this one's from Bontsville Wizard, good friend of the show. Hey, boys. I'm coming off a shocking round with a team I feel is not that bad.
00:56:04
Holmesy
Should I just keep getting rookies off field and hope it turns? So he's looking at Sorong and Farrow to Whitfield and a rookie, or does he go a value pick like Zorko or one of the cheaper guys? So I suppose if you've got the money to get Whitfield, you just pay up and do it.
00:56:19
Holmesy
Or... Do we try and save a bit of money and go a Zorko value guy instead?
00:56:23
Lew
Look, pull me up on this if I'm wrong, but I think personally at the price now, i would rather go for a Zorko over a Whitfield. I think they're going to put up probably similar numbers.
00:56:35
Lew
ah for the rest of the season. And and maybe Zorko's ceiling is probably just peaking on Whitfield a little bit. That being said, I haven't seen enough of Whitfield without Ash just yet. But I say, depending on your team base, save the 100K, go for Zorko and use that to your advantage next week.
00:56:55
Holmesy
Harmi, you ja have a differing thought?
00:56:58
Jon Harmey
Oh, look, $100,000. I don't think that Whitfield is going to be 10 points better average from here on in than Zorko. So I'm quite comfortable taking Zorko at the moment.
00:57:13
Jon Harmey
But I do like Whitty. Ash going into the midfield, Whitfield has just looked awesome last couple of weeks because of that. Yeah.
00:57:21
Holmesy
One thing I will say, I think Ashes CBAs were very high in the first half and they dropped off in the second half. I think it was only 20% ish center bounces in the third quarter.
00:57:31
Holmesy
And then I'm not sure whether there was any in the last quarter. So maybe they give up on that experiment at some point, but I don't, I also don't think so either. I think they probably need to stick with it for a little bit.
00:57:43
Holmesy
But yeah, I think you go Zorko as the value option. Witty's not going to get away from you. I don't think even if he goes on a bit of a run,
00:57:48
Lew
ah I did see Kingsley said during the week that that experiment will last a little while longer.
00:57:50
Holmesy
lo
00:57:55
Jon Harmey
He
00:57:56
Lew
so whether you want to take his word for it, I'm not sure.
00:57:57
Holmesy
Yeah.
00:57:58
Lew
But yeah, but that was Richelli.
00:57:59
Holmesy
Rochelle also said he was going to be back in the midfield this week. So do we... He did.
00:58:03
Jon Harmey
he did. well you got four CBAs.
00:58:03
Lew
He's speaking it into existence. This is the head coach.
00:58:06
Holmesy
He did, yeah.
00:58:07
Lew
Yeah.
00:58:08
Holmesy
Yeah, true. True. Fair. Louis, this one's from Gentleman. Squad value is outside the top 100. Is it sensible to stop further cash loss by prioritising trading out Rochelle and Farrow and then aiming for a value play that will still generate good points on field like Durham and Zerhart or Roby? So...
00:58:27
Holmesy
With a very good team value that's just outside the top 100, very competitive, do we still need to prioritise the Faro's, the Rochelle's out that are bleeding cash?
00:58:38
Holmesy
Or can you go for a bit of a points hit, points upgrade, sorry, and and maybe let a couple of those rot while you fix up other things?
00:58:45
Lew
Yeah, look, as somebody also with a squad value outside top 100, I do feel safe to um to give some advice on this question. um I feel like you're you're trading for much of a muchness here, right?
00:58:59
Lew
Like I suppose Durham and Zerhar are on the way up um in some respects, certainly Roby is, but you know this is something that can that can turn south very, very quickly.
00:59:07
Jon Harmey
you
00:59:12
Lew
I know a couple of weeks ago we were talking about how Rochelle and Farah should be trade-ins um So for me, I'm wondering if there's some larger problems in your team that you can potentially um address or even generate some cash elsewhere and get up to a genuine premium rather than dabbling in these derhars. sorry, Derhams and Zerhars is probably just an awkward price range for me if I'm if i'm genuinely up and about in terms of that cash value in
Listener Questions and Podcast Conclusion
00:59:45
Lew
my team. I think I'd rather just go straight down to Arobi and go straight back up to an Uber premium because you know you're clearly doing very, very well. Being just outside the top 100 in terms of team value is is absolutely elite. you know There's still teams out there who,
01:00:00
Lew
We're miles behind that who will still score very, very, very well. So I would say just keep chasing the points, go one up, one down, and and you're in a really good spot to to sort of launch after the buys.
01:00:13
Holmesy
Harmi, last question of the night for you. This one is from Deegan Nicholas from our Instagram page. He's given a lot of players here as order of trade out priority.
01:00:24
Holmesy
So i just want to give you that i just want you to give the top three that you believe are the most important to trade out. So he's listed Farrow, Sorong, which I'm guessing is Jai Sorong, Brun, Rochelle, LeMires, Devrob, and Vicentini. So I'll get your top three, Louis, and then mine.
01:00:45
Jon Harmey
Assuming that um you've only got one red dot in DevRob, so preface that. Otherwise, it should be DevRob. He's not coming back, right? So that would be one, but it depends if you need him for a loop mid-forward.
01:01:03
Jon Harmey
So I'll put him at one, but I don't know. That doesn't really help. So he should be the first one out. Byzantini, I don't think you're going to get too much. If you traded him to a red dot for looping and cashed him out, you could probably do that, but you might as well just leave him. I think the three for me would be um Sarong, unless we get some positive comments from him during the week. So Sarong, Faro, Rochelle.
01:01:36
Jon Harmey
That's the three I'll go. One, two, three.
01:01:38
Holmesy
Mashman, Lude you differ at all.
01:01:40
Lew
Yes, so I think Vicentini's going to leak cash, certainly as that second ruck.
01:01:45
Jon Harmey
Mm-hmm.
01:01:46
Lew
He's just not scoring. He's priced below what he started as in terms of a starting pick, and I think that's going to continue going the way that it is. So for me...
01:01:57
Lew
I would, you know, certainly if you need a loop option especially, I would be going Vicentini down to like a Kehlani White, maximize that cash. Dev Rob's at a similar price. So I think you're going to get a sort of similar return out of that. So Dev Rob would be my second choice. He's not playing.
01:02:17
Lew
um and then you're probably choosing between Sarong and Farrow there. I think you could flip a coin personally, and then Blamiris, Blamiris, he's probably another where you know you can throw him into the mix based on sort of what you're trying to get up to on the other end.
01:02:36
Lew
Rochelle, Broon, they are ones that can also go, but happy to, you know, handball them back to another week and, you know, use them as upgrade, sort of jump off points later on.
01:02:49
Jon Harmey
Can anybody explain to me how Archie Roberts is getting 150 whatever and Jacob Farrow is on 20 points at half time playing in the Bombers back line.
01:03:05
Jon Harmey
What was with that?
01:03:06
Lew
Isn't it obvious?
01:03:08
Holmesy
It's an average of 50 Armin.
01:03:08
Jon Harmey
my.
01:03:09
Holmesy
Yeah.
01:03:11
Jon Harmey
Oh dear.
01:03:13
Lew
all his chips.
01:03:15
Jon Harmey
Unreal.
01:03:16
Holmesy
All right, boys, that is going to wrap us up. Huge episode again. The boys said they wanted to keep it tight. Unfortunately, I've kept them going over an hour as usual. Harmy, very tired in Tasmania.
01:03:28
Holmesy
Louis needs to go and still get those brownie points made up from Gather Round. Make sure you are...
01:03:32
Lew
but
01:03:33
Holmesy
Very good. Make sure you subscribe to us at PodPod AFL on Twitter. Sorry, I'm at HolmesiesHeroes. Make sure you're subscribed on X Apple Podcasts.
01:03:44
Holmesy
or wherever you listen to your content. Hopefully we get Jordy back next week as he is definitely keeping the respectability from the pod. Have a good week. Hope things go well and we will speak to you guys soon. Bye.