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Dr. Stephanie Seneff on Deuterium, Glyphosate, Gut Microbes, Mitochondria, and much more!
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This week, we are joined by Dr. Stephanie Seneff to talk about everything deuterium. Of course, we begin the discussion by discussing Dr. Seneff's views on health. We move right into discussing deuterium and how glyphosate is a major issue, inhibiting our metabolism from functioning properly.
We then get more specific, discussing how EZ water and deuterium have a significant relationship. We discuss the negatives of having too much deuterium in the body, as well as how the body excretes deuterium. We take a moment to discuss how glyphosate is being sprayed on more than just crops. We also talk about how glyphosate can inhibit protein function and how it was invented, noting how chlorine actually deactivates glyphosate.
We turn to a very interesting topic: the microbiome. We discuss how microbes can bioremediate deuterium and how they play a very important role in the hydrogen-deuterium balance. Lastly, we discuss how to avoid high deuterium in the body!
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Celebrating Episode Milestone
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Beyond Train podcast. I'm your host, Leo Dalton. We are half a year in episode 26. We've been uploading every single week. And, uh, yeah, we're at the halfway point. This is great. Uh, progress has been great. Uh, I'm so proud of looking back on all of the episodes that I found. They're also very insightful and so special in their own, in their own way. And, uh,
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I'm just so excited to keep going.
Introducing Dr. Stephanie Seneff
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So we have a great guest on today, Dr. Stephanie Seneff. We're going to talk about some really interesting topics, topics we haven't necessarily got into too much detail. I think we skimmed over them briefly when we're talking about quantum biology. We skimmed over them when we're talking with Kara Lee and a little bit with Dr. Jalal Khan.
00:00:56
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And so yeah, this is going to be a fantastic episode. Dr. Stephanie Sineff, thank you so much for coming on today. So great to be here. Thanks for having me. Yeah, absolutely. So I always ask my guests a little introductory question.
Health Philosophy: Natural Over Pharmaceuticals
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I like to ask them what health means to them and kind of to describe health in general. You know, it's kind of a nuanced question, but it gives us a good baseline to work off of.
00:01:21
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Wow, that's a tough one. Yeah, well, certainly I think being healthy is very, very important and you need to really pay attention to your lifestyle to make sure you are healthy. And I think that if people learn to eat a very healthy diet, and that certainly means certified organic food, whole foods, get out in the sunlight, you know, a lot, so the sun is very healing. And, you know, make sure your diet has a lot of micronutrients, not just carbs and fats.
00:01:47
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and proteins, but also all those interesting molecules that do very amazing things to help keep you healthy. So I think if you live a really healthy lifestyle, I don't recommend taking pills as supplements. I don't recommend taking any kind of pharmaceutical drugs. Stay away from all of those, I believe, unless, of course, you identify a very serious deficiency, then you could probably take something to fix that. But I think in general, you're best off to get your
00:02:15
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all of your needs met through healthy food and healthy air, healthy water, healthy sunlight. That's basically my formula for good health. Yeah, it's definitely more than just food as well. Like you mentioned, it's a circadian rhythm aligning with the natural cycles of life. And it's funny because
00:02:39
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whenever you get into the health fields, it always starts with proteins, carbs, and fats. And then you always work your way down, I find. People tend to work their way down to the micronutrients and those different little chemicals in our foods. And so, yeah, I think that's a great point.
00:02:55
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And people argue incessantly about, you know, high fat diet, low fat diet, all veggie diet, all these different kinds of diets that are worrying about the proportions of fats and carbs and proteins, but they're missing really, to me, the critical things, all these herbs and the spices, you know, these are adding all kinds of really, really interesting molecules that have powerful effects on your health, beneficial in many cases. Yeah. Yeah.
Ancestral Diets and Their Benefits
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And what I really like about
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Weston A. Price's work was that he highlighted that every ancestral group ate different foods. Some ate a lot of fish. The aborigines in Australia ate a lot of rodent-type animals, but that's what was around. Eating locally may have a benefit as well. Maybe there is another measure of
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energy within your food as well. I've heard talk of bio photons in the foods and so a higher energy yielding food. I don't know if you've looked into that at all. I don't really know too much about it, but I think there is this idea that eating locally is
00:04:12
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One of my, one of something that I definitely try to implement as well, like eating locally and just eating seasonally as well, right? Where up in Canada, it gets cold. It may, you know, you don't feel like eating vegetables or fruits too much in the wintertime, right? It's kind of, unless you're maybe eating fruits. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And of course, fermented foods. I should have mentioned that because fermented foods are very important as a program, health, health program needs to include fermented foods.
00:04:43
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Yeah, definitely. Absolutely. Definitely something that's both it's a likely the most natural way to preserve food as well. Right. So, um, yeah, that's a great point. All
Understanding Deuterium in Biology
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right. So we are going to talk about some really cool topics today. Uh, maybe I can just kind of open the floor and let you make your little spiel and tell us about, we're going to talk about glyphosate, deuterium, um, micro gut microbiology.
00:05:12
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maybe even the mitochondria and how they're all related too, right? So I kind of want to just give you the floor and let you take it for a little bit. We'll just go from there. Yeah, that's a good way to start. And I always wonder what's the best way to go forward because the space is big, but it's really, really interesting. I'm completely hooked on it. I'm so excited. And I want to get the message out to the world about ducherian.
00:05:36
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Because that is something that people are not aware of, and I'm going to change that. I want it to spread the word about deuterium, because it is so, so interesting, and I know I'm on to something really big. And I want to give a shout out to Laszlo Boros, because Dr. Laszlo Boros was the one who first introduced me to the idea that deuterium matters in health. And I knew deuterium was heavy hydrogen, but I hadn't thought about it at all until that point, and that was December 2019.
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And he had sent me a blind email and he congratulated me on a paper that I had published. It was on metabolism, and he loves metabolism. And he basically said, great paper. He said, by the way, deuterium. Do you know about deuterium? And of course, I didn't. And he attached his paper, a paper he had published in medical hypotheses.
00:06:19
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and I devoured that paper and I was so fascinated and I immediately grabbed onto it because I recognized very quickly that the ways that the body uses that the organism obsesses on deuterium and it has many different mechanisms to help maintain what it wants which is low deuterium inside the mitochondria. The mitochondria hate deuterium. Deuterium is heavy hydrogen. I should make
00:06:45
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that clear. It has an extra neutron so it's twice as heavy as normal hydrogen. Hydrogen is of course by far the most common atom in the body and deuterium is a natural element that occurs everywhere hydrogen occurs. You know it's about 155 parts per million in seawater which doesn't sound like a lot but it turns out it is a lot because proportional to hydrogen
00:07:08
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It's you know, it becomes a huge amount. And so it's actually five times as much deuterium atoms in the in the blood circulating in the blood as there are calcium atoms. And of course, calcium in the blood is something you would expect to see. So there's a lot of it. And the body sequesters it. I believe we are sequestering it in gelled water.
00:07:27
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We've tried to grab as much deuterium and hold it inside gelled water outside the cells, you know, in the extracellular space, the deuterium is trapped. And then there's all kinds of efforts by the enzymes to make sure that the hydrogens that are delivered to the mitochondria are not deuterium. Amazing skill that these enzymes have. They're very clever designs. Using proton tunneling amidst all kinds of biophysics, it's just amazing that these specialized enzymes can end up delivering
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low deuterium protons to the mitochondria and those protons provide the proton motive force that generates the ATP and the ATP is the energy source of the cell. So it's extremely important for the cell to make sure not to gum up those pumps with deuterium because it will wreck them.
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And in wrecking them, it'll make them inefficient to make ATP, but they will also spew out reactive oxygen. And reactive oxygen will damage the DNA that's also in the mitochondria and will ultimately cause cancer. So the body tries to keep as little to term as possible inside those mitochondria in order to protect you from cancer, in order to protect you from DNA damage and other kinds of tissue damage that can come from.
00:08:34
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reactive oxygen and in order to supply enough ATP to fuel the cell. So it's super, super, super important for those mitochondria not to get deuterium.
Glyphosate's Impact on Health
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And the reason why I caught up on it really quickly was because I realized that exactly those enzymes that are able to usher low deuterium protons into the mitochondria
00:08:54
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are the enzymes that are susceptible to glyphosate substitution. So I have in my book, and I have my book here, Toxic Legacy, how the weed killer glyphosate is destroying our health and the environment.
00:09:05
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And in this book, I argue that glyphosate has an insidious, cumulative, diabolical mechanism of toxicity that's unique to glyphosate. I don't know any other chemical in the world that has the same property, which is to be able to substitute for glycine, the amino acid glycine, during protein synthesis. It sticks itself in instead of glycine. As the code is being read, the protein is being assembled from the amino acids. Glyphosate gets grabbed by mistakes, stuck in there, and it messes things up.
00:09:32
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And there's particular proteins that have what I call a glyphosate susceptibility motif, which is a particular situation around the glycine that makes it especially dangerous for glyphosate to replace it. And so the proteins that have that characteristic feature, many of them are major involvement in delivering low deuterium to the mitochondria.
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So in other words, the proteins that do that job are disrupted by glyphosate, and that causes it not to work well, and that causes the mitochondria to get gummed up with deuterium, and then you get mitochondrial dysfunction, which is linked to all kinds of diseases. All sorts of connections. So I want you to elaborate a little bit on, you mentioned low deuterium in the mitochondria is important.
00:10:24
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Now you didn't mention that our gels in our body and the listeners are quite familiar with Gerald Pollack's work with gels and the new biology of cells and the gel-like structure. So you've mentioned that the gels have an affinity for deuterium. Could you maybe talk about that connection a little bit? Super fascinating, super fascinating. Yeah, and it's not just the gels, it's the collagen that creates the gelled water around it.
00:10:51
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the collagen, so there's these huge collagen fibers. A third of our proteins are collagen molecules. We have, you know, it's by far the most common protein in the body is collagen. And collagen has long swaths of GXY, GXY, GXY, where every third amino acid is a glycine, right? So it's very rich in glycine, probably the richest of any, there may be some small proteins that have more proportionally, but they would be a short list. Collagen has tons of glycine. Collagen is the most common protein. And collagen has,
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Also, proline has proline and glycine as dominant. You know, proline isoproline and glycine make up a huge portion of the collagen molecule. And the proline part is also very, very interesting. So I found a thesis from 1943. 1943, this was a miracle that I found this. And that thesis concerned proline. And it was really, really interesting because it said, it showed
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Proline uniquely, of all the amino acids, only proline. And maybe isoproline, I'm not sure, but certainly proline. Isoproline is just a modified form of proline. It has a small modification. But proline can trap deuterium and sequester it. Really, really interesting. And they showed that because they loaded up the proline molecules with deuterium. I think they had like 17% deuterium. Normally it's just a tiny, you know, normally most molecules don't have any deuterium because it's so rare compared to hydrogen.
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But these proline molecules, they made them have 17% deuterium. And then they gave them all kinds of extremely adverse situations in which they should be exchanging with the hydrogen, getting rid of the deuterium. They expected the deuterium to go down because they were like very acid and they gave them some kind of enzyme. They just really worked them hard to try to get the deuterium off, and it didn't come off.
00:12:43
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And they said proline was the only amino acid that had that property, that once it gets a deuterium in it, it doesn't let go. And then on top of that, there's this really fascinating, I've become obsessed with this protein, which I've only recently discovered, like in the last several months. It's called peptidylproline, peptidylprolil isomerase, it's an isomerase. And as little Boris taught me,
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Every isomerase is involved with deuterium. So I know that from him and he's an expert on deuterium. So the isomerase is really interesting because proline gets really checky, but I'm sorry about that, but it's so fun. Proline is also the only amino acid that actually has two kind of like near image hands. It can be two different ways that are kind of like the left hand, the right hand.
00:13:37
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And this isomerase converts the left hand into the right hand and back and forth like that. It just converts it back and forth. And the enzyme makes that happen a thousand times more than it would happen without the enzyme. So it's very good at telling those prolines to flip back and forth. So it's just a modification, you know, you put this over here and then you put it back over there and you put it back. And it causes, so the proline is lined up inside the, lots of these prolines inside the collagen, right?
00:14:01
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And the collagen is trying to get its shape. It's in the ER, the endoplasmic reticulum. It's in there trying to get shaped properly. It makes this beautiful triple helix structure, which glyphosate wrecks because it gets in the way of the glycines. But it makes this beautiful triple helix structure that has great properties in terms of tensile strength and holding water. All the things that collagen does so well depends on that triple helix.
00:14:23
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And as it's forming into the triple helix, it's got this isomerase flipping things back and forth. All the prolines are flipping back and forth, which I think is basically stirring the water. It's trying to stir the water. It's adding kinetic energy by virtue of this movement that's involved with this isomerase flipping things back and forth. Does that make sense to you, sort of? And they're all hanging on a rope, right? All these prolines are hanging on a rope and they're flipping
00:14:46
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and they're in the ER, and what they're doing, I think, is stirring up the water so you can get a deuterium atom close. They're searching for deuterium in the trapping it. That's what I think. Now, this is totally theoretical. I don't have any papers to support that, but this is just my own thinking, right? So the prolines in the collagen are scooping up as much deuterium as they can find in the water in this ER, where it wants to have really low deuterium, because that's where the protein, everybody wants to be low deuterium.
Role of Enzymes and Water in Deuterium Regulation
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That's any kind of molecule that's going to be used in biology wants to be low deuterium.
00:15:14
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So the collagen is grabbing all the deuterium and getting thrown outside the door, and it gathers around outside of the matrix, and it creates the gelled water. And it attaches to these other guys called heparin sulfate proteoglycans. These are these sulfated sugar chains that populate all over the extracellular space. They attach to the collagen.
00:15:34
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And then heparin sulfate makes gelled water. So the sulfate is important for making the gelled water. Glycinate disrupts the ability to attach the sulfate to the glycolytic. So you get deficient sulfate everywhere, which means inadequate gelled water. And the gelled water, as Gerald Pollack has shown, the gelled water traps
00:15:55
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It pushes out protons. Remember that? It pushes out protons. It creates a battery. And the cool thing is that deuterons stay behind. So there's also the collagen has lots of proline trapped in it. And then the collagen makes the gel. And the gel actually holds the deuterium behind to stay stuck to the water molecules that are inside the gel. And the protons that leave are going to be much less likely to be deuterons. So it's actually those protons are being pushed out of the gel.
00:16:23
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creating the battery are going to be low in deuterium. Do you see what I'm saying? It's a wonderful system. And then those protons get out into the blood. So now the blood has a lower level of deuterium in it than the gel does and then is normal in nature. It's already depleted in deuterium because of that gelled water trapping the deuterium and also the collagen trapping the deuterium.
00:16:46
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So that's the way you get started with low deuterium. And then there's other enzymes that actually take a proton off of a molecule and stick it onto another molecule. And in particular, stick it onto NAD or NADP. So you get NADPH and NADH. And that H is a golden H that's extremely low in deuterium because those enzymes do this proton tunneling thing.
00:17:08
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that allows them to, they won't react. If there's a deuteron sitting there on the source molecule, they won't take it. They'll just won't use that one. You know, it'll stay behind. And then it'll pull off the hydrogen and make this NADH or NADPH that's going to deliver that H to the mitochondria to give them extremely low deuterium. So it's a whole process of trapping deuterium and then
00:17:29
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making sure you only choose hydrogen when you react. All these mechanisms that are so beautiful in biology, they make sense all of a sudden. It's so exciting to me because these things make sense to me, much more sense to me because of deuterium than they did before is what I would say. Definitely, yeah. And I think it's really important to have this conversation now, obviously, since this is kind of coming to light. The funny thing is that when you do look back, it's like,
00:17:59
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If you read, I know I looked into Gilbert Lang a little bit and he talked a lot about how proteins form the gel, how the gel forms off of the proteins, right? And you could see this gel kind of aggregate with the proteins themselves. And you're mentioning this deuterium connection, beautiful deuterium connection, but everything's kind of come into light now and it's really on the forefront. Like Gerald Pollock is fantastic and he's really pushing for this. He's so great. There's a lot of people kind of more in the quantum biology realm that are talking about this stuff.
00:18:29
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I think it's amazing now. I did biochemistry in university and we studied metabolism, of course, citric acid cycle and glycolysis and all these things. No mention of deuterium once. I know, exactly. Of course, way back when when I took biology to MIT, I majored in biology as an undergraduate and there's not a word about deuterium in anything that I learned back then, even though back then actually they were more interested in it because they were
00:18:59
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There are papers that have come out from, a lot of the stuff I find is from 1960, 1940, you know, really early work, back when they first figured out how to concentrate deuterium, because they needed that for the atom bomb. You know, they learned how to make really high deuterium water, extremely unnatural.
00:19:14
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And actually, that's quite interesting, because I found some papers from the 1960s, where they gave they didn't know whether this water would be toxic or not, you know, and apparently it tastes pretty much like water, like you can't really tell the difference, it would be a great way to poison somebody because it's just drinking water, right. And so they gave these rats this deuterium loaded water, like completely unnatural, like 70% deuterium, you know, something like that. And then they watched what happened. And it was amazing, because the rats became
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very vicious, very quickly became very vicious and also ferociously hungry. So they ate tons of food and they were beating up on each other. And then after about four or five, six days, they got very lethargic. Like they just, some of them, one by one, they just kind of lie down and can't do anything anymore. And then the vicious ones would kill them, you know? And so by the end of like 13 days, all of them were dead. I mean, it is that toxic and incredible. So something that tastes just like water.
00:20:11
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could be that toxic. And of course, it never shows up in nature. Nature stays, you know, within the range of 155. It can be down to, and this is actually important because glacier water, you know, people tout glacier water as being a healthy water choice, and they sell it on the web. And glacier water has, it can be as low as 90 parts per million, like in Antarctica, you know. So again, just like the gel holds the deuterium,
00:20:37
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And then what gets pushed out has less deuterium. When you melt water off the glacier, the deuterium stays behind in the ice. So it's always going to be in the harder form, like it goes from ice to water to gel to gas. And in each of those steps, what stays behind has more deuterium. What leaves has less.
Gut Microbiome and Deuterium Levels
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So when the raindrop comes down from the sky,
00:21:01
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at the equator versus at the pole, there's a difference in what lands at the bottom as far as how much deuterium it has. And that's because the light water, the water that has the protons leaves the drop. It evaporates into gas, right? So the water that leaves the raindrop has less deuterium, which leaves behind a raindrop that's enriched in deuterium.
00:21:24
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So the drinking water at the equator has higher deuterium levels than the drinking water at the poles, which is really fascinating. So the glacier, of course, also has the opportunity to have less deuterium just because of this property of it not evaporating. So that's super interesting too. And that relates to the gel. I like to argue that the gel traps the deuterium because I know that the ice traps the deuterium and I know that the liquid traps the deuterium.
00:21:53
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And this is also a really important point. It gets to the gut microbes because the gut microbes produce hydrogen gas. You probably know that, right? They produce methane, they produce hydrogen gas, they produce hydrogen sulfide. There's all these gases that get produced by the gut microbes. Hydrogen gas turns out to be extremely, extremely interesting. And I can remember, Western Price actually, someone gave a talk about hydrogen gas therapy.
00:22:16
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And she was arguing that it's really healthy and she was promoting it. You can put these tablets and Mercola promotes it too. Hydrogen gas therapy. You've probably heard of that. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I was like, this is crazy. How could hydrogen gas be good for you? I didn't believe it. I thought this is hocus pocus pocus, you know. And then much later, of course, once I realized that, and this is, again, a paper from the 1960s.
00:22:40
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amazing, and it's the only paper I've been able to find, but I'm glad to find one, right? One is a whole lot better than zero. And this paper from the 60s showed that the microbes make hydrogen gas, they pull the hydrogen off of organic molecules, and they put two hydrogens together to make H2, which is the gas, right, and they release the gas. And that hydrogen gas had 80% depleted in deuterium compared to what was left behind. Amazing, right? It got down to
00:23:08
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So instead of 150, what's 80%? Eight times 15. It's more like 90, right? Or something, I forget the, I don't know the numbers exactly, or maybe, I mean, it's down to like 30 actually, down to 30, right? 30 parts per million instead of 150 parts per million. So that is absolutely huge, a huge reduction in deuterium in that hydrogen gas that the microbes make. And I don't know to what extent the enzyme is making that happen versus it would just happen even if it was not done enzymatically, like if it just evaporated.
00:23:39
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What would be the proportion? Probably not as good. The enzyme probably makes it even better, because these enzymes are good at extracting hydrogen over deuterium. But anyway, the microbes can make this incredibly valuable hydrogen gas. And they know it's valuable, because they track it. You can actually track it through metabolism to see why our body obsesses on methyl groups. And you know about methylation pathways, right? Methylation pathways are super important, and the methyls get
00:24:08
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passed all around, get stuck onto the DNA, they get stuck onto the proteins. They even get stuck onto the fats, which is really interesting. There's these branched-chain fatty acids that have methyls attached to the pieces in the chain. So it's just like you can follow methyls all over the place. And generally, the molecules that have these methyls are very important biologically, and starting with methionine. So methionine is a sulfur-containing amino acid.
00:24:36
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and it has a methyl attached to the sulfur atom. And it is the universal methyl donor. In other words, you can trace back all these methyls that get passed around these methylation pathways. You can trace them back to methionine. And methionine gets its methyl from methane gas. And methane gas gets its hydrogen from hydrogen gas. So what happens is the hydrogen gas has 80% depletion, right? Methane is CH4, 80% depleted. And then you have the methanol, which is
00:25:05
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The methane becomes what's called methane thiol. Methane thiol is a methyl attached to a sulfur, right? And then that gets hooked onto some other organic molecules, the rest of another organic molecule to make the methionine. So the methionine is coming very short path from the hydrogen gas that was produced by the bacteria, and therefore it has extremely low deuterium, and the body knows that. That's why they're so special. Those methyls are so special. So it's just really cool, really cool biology.
00:25:33
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Does that make sense? I don't know if I'm talking over people's heads, but no, no, this is perfect. This is, this is perfect. Honestly. Um, I want to circle back quickly. I had a question about the gel. So if the gel, the gels are holding onto this deuterium is the, is there a role for the deuterium in the gel or is the body trying to excrete it in a way? Cause when I do think, I think of, um,
00:26:01
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an explanation of getting a fever and how the fever may actually melt the gel in a way. It's a little more permeable and allows for the release of toxicity stored up in the body. I think that's an interesting concept of a fever.
00:26:17
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I'm just thinking, is that a way to release deuterium? I'd love to know your thoughts on that. There's a couple of answers there. So the fever, I think, it actually does make you sweat, right? And I think when you sweat, you just secrete water that's probably reduced in deuterium. The salivary glands are actually able to secrete water that is enriched in deuterium. I'm sorry, enriched. So in other words, you're trying to get rid of the water that has the deuterium. I know that the breast milk has low deuterium, so that the mother's trying to give the baby low deuterium.
00:26:47
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And the salivary glands are able to excrete the deuterium. So that becomes higher deuterium and the blood has low deuterium relative to the saliva, for example. And so the breast milk has the lowest and then the blood and then the saliva among those three, which is really, really interesting, right? Because the saliva is secreting it because it's not going to be used to feed the baby, right? Whereas the breast milk want to give the baby low deuterium so that the body understands that to give the baby low deuterium.
00:27:15
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That's that part. But then the other part that's super interesting with respect to the collagen is seals. So there's a wonderful study on seals. It's just so amazing. And they showed that those seals had extremely high deuterium in their collagen. They were able to dump deuterium into the collagen. So that supports that 1943 paper that said that proline traps deuterium. But that collagen, of course, then is also in the bone. The bone has a lot of collagen.
00:27:45
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And they argued in the paper that the reason why the seal wanted, and apparently the seal does this much better than we do according to the paper as far as concentrating the deuterium in the bone. And they argued that that makes the bone really strong. And that makes the seal able to handle the pressure when it does its deep dives. Isn't that cool? Wow. That's so cool. So that means to me that
00:28:09
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We're doing that too, and we're making our bones stronger by putting the deuterium in our bones. And if we can't put the deuterium in our bones, our bones are going to be weak. So. Yeah. I'm just connecting it to so many different diseases and, you know, like the modern problems that we have because, and, and, you know, you get down to, get down to the basis of it. Obviously glyphosate is interrupting a lot of these processes that we're talking about. You know, we know that our light cycles affect our,
00:28:38
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the water in our body and that allow us to structure the water in our body. I think there's a structured water crisis, obviously. Obviously, there's a glyphosate problem as well. It's rampant. They just spray that everywhere. I remember we have invasive species in a national park near us in Keji Makuji. And you know what their solution was? There was an invasive pike.
00:29:02
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You know what they wanted to do? They wanted to spray glyphosate over the National Park. I think they ended up doing it. That was their solution to just spray glyphosate over. And I know where I'm from in Prince Edward Island, they sprayed the whole island with glyphosate, the entire island, as a preventative measure for maybe mosquitoes or something.
Glyphosate, Environment, and Climate
00:29:23
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And the Irving company did it. The gas company did it. Oh Irving, it's terrible. I've read all about that in Nova Scotia and also in the next over, what's the other,
00:29:33
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province next door. New Brunswick. New Brunswick. New Brunswick. The Irving is really big there and they're politically, they control the politics. I know people who fought them for a long time and they're so strong and they're poisoning everything with the glyphosate in the trees. Actually, that's a really good thing to bring up because we're having all these forest fires, right? We're having a mess with forest fires these days in Western Canada and of course also in Western US.
00:30:01
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And I think glyphosate is a desiccant, you know, it dries things out and it disrupts the cholesterol. I mean, not the cholesterol, the chlorophyll. It actually messes up the ability of the plants to capture carbon out of the air and turn it into organic carbon. It messes up an enzyme that it's the most common enzyme on the planet.
00:30:22
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It's called Rubisco, and I don't know what those, it's Rubisco, and each of those stands for some big word that I don't know. But it's called Rubisco, which is kind of a cute name. Most common protein on the planet, it's only found in plants, but the plants need it in order to sequester carbon. So they take carbon dioxide out of the air and turn it into organic matter, and they eventually dump it into the soil, right? And that's a way to get carbon out of the air, which is going to help climate change. They do a tremendous,
00:30:52
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The plants play a tremendous role in climate change by virtue of sequestering the carbon out of the air. And glyphosate disrupts their ability to do that. So at first of all, they get dried out and they're more easily catch fire. But also we get more carbon in the air because they're not working efficiently to pull it out. So I think that's a way in which glyphosate is causing, is a causal factor in climate change. Interesting. Very interesting. Yeah.
Effects of High Deuterium on Health
00:31:21
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So deuterium in the body, what does it look like, high deuterium in the body? What are sort of maybe a symptom profile or how does it manifest when you have too much deuterium? You mentioned that rat study and that was a little extreme, I suppose. Yeah, you'll never see that in nature, but that is really interesting because it shows you how toxic it is. Definitely. I think the important thing is the mitochondria, keep the mitochondria healthy because that's so important for body health.
00:31:50
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And of course, when you get DNA mutations in your mitochondria, the mitochondria contain DNA. They have their own private DNA. And they make some of these proteins that are susceptible to glyphosate toxicity. In fact, the very protein that delivers the protons to the mitochondrial intermembrane space and eventually to ATPase pumps, that protein is suppressed by glyphosate.
00:32:12
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That study was shown in E. coli. There was a study on E. coli microbes, and they exposed them to glyphosate, and they did a massive study to see which proteins were being suppressed by the glyphosate, and they found a whole bunch. And they found a whole bunch of dehydrogenases in particular. I suspect glyphosate suppresses all the dehydrogenases. And what the dehydrogenases do, as you might imagine, is they take hydrogen off, right? Dehydrogenase. Doesn't that make sense? They take hydrogen off. And then they, so for example,
00:32:43
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Many of them take a hydrogen off of an organic molecule, let's say like glucose or something. They take a hydrogen off and they put it onto NAD or NADP. So they make NADH and NADPH. And NADH is the molecule that delivers protons to the mitochondrial intermembrane space. NADH dehydrogenase is an enzyme that takes the H off of NADH and puts it into the mitochondrial, into the place where it can become the
00:33:12
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motive force for the ATPase pump. So that's a really critical last step. All these enzymes are putting H onto NADH from various sources, and then the NADH is giving the H to the mitochondria for this purpose of driving that pump to make the ATP. So that H is really important, and NADH dehydrogenase is suppressed by glyphosate. And so this E. coli study showed that, and there was another study that showed that it was
00:33:39
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Suppressed by 43%, I believe. It was a specific study looking specifically at NADH that showed an inability to make the NADH, which has happened in the citric acid cycle. Those proteins were also suppressed, like succinate dehydrogenase and malonate dehydrogenase. They were also suppressed. And then there's another one, glucose 6-phosphate dehydrogenase. That one actually makes NADPH from NADP. So that one's super important also.
00:34:09
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NADPH is what fixes glutathione. When glutathione gets oxidized, NADPH brings it back down to two separate glutathione molecules. It becomes SS. Do you know about glutathione? It gets oxidized, two of them go together, and they lose two hydrogens. And those hydrogens that they lose are going to be low in deuterium because they came from NADPH, which came from all those places back. So the whole system is pouring these Hs into NADH and NADPH
00:34:39
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And then the mitochondria are using that H very judiciously to keep them healthy, to have that low deuterium. It's super fascinating. It just makes so much sense. Yeah. And it affects so many different parts of the body too. I wonder if the mechanism in which it interrupts proteins is through the replacement of glycine. I wonder if that's your take because when I took structural biology,
00:35:05
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when you're looking at the active sites of proteins in these crystals that we make, right? You're looking at the active sites and you have these, you know, our visualizations, our models, right? You know, however much weight you want to ascribe to them. It's so very delicate, right? One misplaced molecule, even, you know, and proteins are very dynamic too. So, you know, you're only getting a snapshot. They are very dynamic in nature, but you know, that one
00:35:33
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A single atom being misplaced can have the most profound effects on a protein, right? Absolutely. If you even take a microcosm of Ling's ideas that such a minute change in a protein or in the body can have such profound effects on the body, such a minute change within a protein itself,
00:35:56
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I'm sure has profound effects on the protein functioning. I'm sure you could probably speak to that more on how glyphosate interrupts this process on the protein level. Absolutely. I have a huge list and I'll just give you some examples. Collagen is one of them, by the way, because collagen has various people have mutations in collagen and many of these mutations involve a glycine because collagen has all these glycines, right? You could have just one glycine, like say position 492 or something. And that glycine is not glycine in that mutation, it's something else.
00:36:26
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And that can cause severe disease. There's all these diseases of collagen, misfolding, you know, disrupted, but by virtue of not being quite right, because it has that mutation with that glycine being replaced by something else, you know, in the code. And that there's Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, Ehlers-Danlos, E-H-L-E-R-S, I don't know how to say that, Ehlers-Danlos, have you heard of that? You know, we have these very flexible, that's one that has several different glycine mutations that cause that.
00:36:54
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So just one. So we have all those glycines and any of them can get replaced by glyphosate. So you might have even several of them replaced in a particular situation. It's going to be all these different versions of that end of that protein that are not folding correctly. And they might even have to be completely disassembled and build them again, you know, it's because because glyphosate has messed it up. And there's another example is myosin. Myosin is contractile protein, you know, it's what makes your muscles move.
00:37:20
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and myosin makes your gut work, right? You know, we have an epidemic in constipation these days. Myosin has 11. So you can look at, one thing I do is I go find papers that look at multiple different species versions of a particular enzyme. So myosin exists in all kinds of species. And then there's all these different kinds of myosin in each species, each one has its own myosin. And you can line them all up, you know, and use computer science to figure out where they're the same. And that's how you can find
00:37:48
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amino acids in the myosin protein that are essential. That's a way to find out what are the important amino acids in a protein by virtue of all the different versions of it have that there, right? So I do a lot of hunting around for these alignments, papers about these alignments. And they found an alignment paper on myosin that showed 11 different glycines that were highly conserved among all the different species, 11.
00:38:12
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And there's one in particular, and I can't remember, I forget the location. It feels like it's almost in my brain, but it doesn't matter. There's a particular glycine in myosin. If you swap it out and replace it with alanine, which is just adding one extra methyl, it's the smallest change you can make from glycine to another amino acid. You can put alanine instead of glycine, and the protein can only contract at 2% capacity. So it knocks out 98% of its ability to contract by virtue of that extra methyl. That's how critical it is.
00:38:43
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Now you imagine all of those 11 glycines having an opportunity to become glyphosate and you've got the gut trying to contract, it's not going to work well. It's going to have all these broken versions of myosin and your gut's not going to be able to push things through and you're going to have constipation. So I think that could very well be the way in which glyphosate is causing an epidemic in constipation. How do they invent glyphosate?
00:39:11
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Yeah, that is kind of amazing, isn't it? They didn't know that it was going to have this property. They were looking for something to, I think that they originally patented as a pipe cleaner because it can strip metals off of pipes, which I think is it's stripping lead off of pipes that are, for example, in Flint, Michigan, right? Flint, Michigan had this huge problem with lead in their water. Do you remember that, the lead in the water supply? And Flint, Michigan is in the middle of all this farm country where they have all these GMO crops.
00:39:40
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and they had switched the water supply to come from this river. It had been coming from some other place and they switched it to come from this river where they had this kind of old beat up plant where they were doing the water purification. And so I think they didn't get the glyphosate out. Usually they put chlorine in the water, right?
00:40:01
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And chlorine kills the bugs, but it also kills the glyphosate. Fortunately, chlorine can break down glyphosate. So I think we've been rescued from what would have been horrible with the amount of glyphosate that would be in our drinking water if it weren't for the fact that they typically put chlorine in there and that gets rid of the glyphosate. So they probably were not treating the water properly. This is just a theory that I have. I haven't proven it. But I suspect that the Flint, Michigan situation is much worse because of the glyphosate.
00:40:30
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in the water supply that's leaching the lead off of the pipe. So you've got the lead pipes plus the glyphosate really bad combination. So they discovered it by accident. Actually, somebody, I don't know that some story about somebody happened to spill some in the grass died or something like that. They discovered it by accident that it killed the grass or killed all the plants. It kills all plants except for those that have been engineered to resist it.
00:40:54
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And that's one of the main reasons for the GMO crops that we have is to make them glyphosate resistant, right? Yeah. And it's extremely interesting, the EPSP synthase, and I talk at length about that in my book, EPSP synthase is the enzyme in the plants that gets just, you know, suppressed by glyphosate. And that's a super important enzyme for the plant. It's part of the shikimate pathway. And that pathway produces the aromatic amino acids, tryptophan tyrosine and phenylalanine.
00:41:23
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And those amino acids are very important to the plant and also very important to us because not only are they building blocks of proteins, but they're also precursors to a large number of important biologically active molecules, including serotonin, melatonin, the skin tanning agent, melanin, thyroid hormone, dopamine, adrenaline, all of those come from the shikimate pathway. And so our microbes have the enzyme
Glyphosate's Impact on Sleep and Gut Health
00:41:50
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have the EPSP synthase, have the checkmate pathway, use it to make molecules for the host. So everything becomes deficient when your microbes are being poisoned by the glyphosate. All of those become deficient. So that's a very serious problem. And in fact, there was a study that showed in rats, they exposed rats to glyphosate in utero when the mom was pregnant. And then they looked at those mice after they had become adults.
00:42:20
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And they found that their ability to produce melatonin was reduced by something, it was down to something like 43% of the normal ability to produce melatonin. So they had suppressed, the glyphosate had caused them to grow up, to have, they called it an epigenetic effect, to have an inability to make enough melatonin, even though the exposure had been back when they were little. So that is just incredible. I mean, I don't even know how that can happen, but it suppressed the ability to make the melatonin
00:42:50
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It sort of changed the rat's formula for how much melatonin it should make or something like that. I don't know, but it was really, truly amazing that had that effect. And of course, melatonin is super, not melatonin, yeah, melatonin, right. That's super important for sleep, you know, and sleep disorder. We have an epidemic in sleep disorder. It's going up dramatically. Exactly. Step with the rise in glyphosate usage on cord crops. So that also fits. Yeah, definitely.
00:43:19
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And so the microbes, we love talking about microbes on this channel here. I can tell you an earful about microbes. I can tell you more. Please. Yes. Go ahead. Yeah. So Bifidobacteria, you know about Bifidobacteria? I've heard, yes. Yeah. So they're the dominant species normally in the infant gut, Bifidobacteria. They should be really overwhelmingly the only thing, you know, almost the only thing present. They're supposed to really thrive in the infant gut.
00:43:47
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and they're very sensitive to glyphosate. So glyphosate cuts down their numbers by a lot and then other things take over. So you get a different mix, right? And you get a lot of clistridia, you get other kinds of species that might not be so, that can cause inflammation. Bifidobacteria, actually they're able to process complex carbs, you know, and turn them into little model, small organic molecules.
00:44:14
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like glucose and formate. So they take apart these large sugar chains, you know, like the glycocalyx. So when you eat complex carbs in plants, like wheat, you know, they're, they're very big molecules that are all kinds of sugars kind of hooked together with some nitrogen and they're, they're, they're big, fancy things that are hard to break down. It's fiber basically like fiber, right? So they break down fiber and convert it into these small organic molecules. And then there are other microbes that
00:44:41
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chew up those molecules and release hydrogen gas. So the bifidobacteria don't make hydrogen gas, but they make the raw materials for the other microbes, which is like firmicutes. Firmicutes make hydrogen gas out of the little molecules that the bifidobacteria make when they process the fiber, right? So when the bifidos aren't working, the fiber becomes toxic, actually, can irritate your gut and cause damage.
00:45:11
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But at the same time, the hydrogen gas doesn't get made because the precursors are not there. So you have the low hydrogen gas. And then the hydrogen gas normally gets converted to methane by other bacteria. There's all these chains of bacteria that take this process forward in this big loop that actually starts with the complex sugars and then the small sugar molecules that the bifidose produce. And then the hydrogen is extracted from those to make the hydrogen gas.
00:45:38
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and then they grab carbon dioxide out of the air and put that together with the hydrogen gas to make methane. So then the methane is also a gas, CH4, and that gets, I mentioned methane thiol earlier, that gets converted to methane thiol, which becomes methionine, but it also gets converted to acetate. So there's these acetogenic bacteria that make acetate, and acetate has a methyl attached to a carbonate, a carbon dioxide basically, sticks carbon dioxide and methane together to make acetate.
00:46:06
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And acetate is incredibly important in metabolism because it's going to have that methane, which is very low deuterium, that methyl. I keep tracking those methyls, right? Acetate is a methyl attached to a carbon dioxide and it's not a gas. So that's how you can keep the methane from escaping by attaching it to carbon dioxide to make acetate. And then acetate can be used to fuel and acetylcoenzyme A is what feeds into the citric acid cycle, right? That's acetate, acetate attached to a coenzyme A molecule.
00:46:35
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That's what feeds into the citric acid cycle to make ATP and carbon dioxide and water out of oxygen. That's the famous citric acid cycle. All of that can be traced back to those hydrogen atoms that are 80% depleted in deuterium, which is amazing. It's just amazing.
00:46:59
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In a way, do the microbes have this sort of bioremediation process going on with deuterium itself? Like, are there part of this cleansing almost of the body of deuterium, right? Absolutely. Yeah. And then there's this other pathway that's acetate and acetate is the smallest of the short chain fatty acids and the gut microbes make acetate propionate and butyrate. That's sort of one, two, and three.
00:47:24
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chain fatty acids. I mean, sorry, two, three, and four. Two, three, and four chains, carbons chained together. Are those four? Are those three? The smallest one would be just probably just carbon dioxide, probably. Acetate has one methyl attached and then you have the propionate and the butyrate that have three carbons and then four carbons. Butyrate has four carbons.
00:47:51
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Those short chain fatty acids are made by the gut microbes and the butyrate is the colonocytes favorite food. They love butyrate and probably because it's very low in deuterium. If it comes through that pathway, it's very low in deuterium. And so the butyrate keeps the colonocytes healthy, but glyphosate messes up the butyrate because it raises, and I talked about that in my book, it raises the pH of the gut and it makes it unattractive to acid loving bacteria.
00:48:20
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And it's the acid-loving bacteria that make the acetate, propionate and butyrate. And so those become depleted. Butyrate needs a, the microbes can't make butyrate unless the pH is low and the glyphosate makes it too high. So the butyrate becomes depleted and then the colonocytes get sick and then you have like inflammatory bowel disease and irritable bowel syndrome, you know, all these gut problems.
00:48:46
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because of insufficient supply of those critical nutrients that are going to be low in deuterium. Cool. Okay, so I want to ask, what can
Maintaining Low Deuterium: Practical Advice
00:48:59
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we do? What do we do? Obviously, avoid glyphosate, I feel like is an obvious one. Not so easy to do. You mentioned good sources of water. Yeah, it's hard to even avoid it, right?
00:49:13
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Absolutely. Especially if you live in Canada or the United States. Yeah, absolutely. You know, you mentioned water. I've heard of deuterium depleted water before. I think it's interesting. I know George Wiseman does some great work with hydrogen water.
00:49:35
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Yes, I know. And I think that now I think that's probably good. You know, I suspect that assuming that the that the hydrogen gas is going to be low in deuterium, which I think it would be because the deuterium stays in the liquid state, you know. So I think that's what makes hydrogen gas good for you. And I've decided that I believe in it now, you know, I didn't before I've heard some really amazing things about it, too. It just blows my mind. Really, like on some different levels, too, like
00:50:04
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I think it's so fascinating. Hydrogen in itself is a very fascinating atom. You can even tiptoe into the more occultish nature of hydrogen too, which gets very interesting.
00:50:20
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So what, what are the tips that you can give us? Like, what are the things that we can do in our everyday lives? I'm sure getting sunlight and focusing on a good microbes in the body and avoiding glyphosate and maybe even deuterium depleted water, things like this nature, maybe a spring. I don't know. Anything that you want to share on that? Yeah. It's actually, it's interesting because you know, waterfalls, there are people who believe that hanging out near a waterfall is beneficial to your health. And, and that was another one I thought, how can that be? That's just seems so stupid, you know.
00:50:51
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And then I realized that the waterfall has all this water coming down and evaporating, right? So there's all this mist and the water that leaves the liquid state is going to be depleted in deuterium. So you're breathing water that's depleted in deuterium. So maybe that's why it's good for you, right? Just breathing that air. And the same thing with the ocean waves. So walking along the ocean shore, you're getting the mist off of the ocean waves, which could very well be depleted in deuterium. So that's just really fascinating.
00:51:18
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And I mentioned glacier water, which also, if you happen to live near glaciers, you know, if you live in Iceland, Iceland has really, really good health. And I suspect that part of that reason for that is the glacier water that they drink. And then, of course, I love sunlight. I really think sunlight is a very overlooked, free, absolutely free health benefit that everyone should be taking advantage of. So I try to get out in the sun a lot. I recommend
00:51:44
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convertible car. So every time you're driving, if it's a sunny day, you're out in the sun and that really works well to get your sunlight exposure. Walking on the beach in the water, you get good grounding and that's also important. The water course has all these new minerals in it that you can absorb through your skin.
00:52:02
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and just being, getting the sunlight and the sea air where they've got some waves going, you know, grounding, that's really a healthy exercise. Of course, just getting exercise is good too. So just walking is important to keep yourself physically active. And then of course, in eating foods, I recommend high sulfur foods. That's something we didn't talk too much about, but glyphosate is a train wreck for the sulfur system. And a lot of people have sulfur food sensitivities, which is probably because they're being poisoned by glyphosate in many cases.
00:52:32
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They can't eat sulfur-containing foods, so they avoid them and then they become deficient in sulfur. So that's a big deal. And so sulfur-containing foods and the vegetables, there's cruciferous vegetables and onions and garlic. They're all good sources of sulfur. And then, of course, among the animals, there's all kinds of great sulfur sources. You'll get more sulfur-containing amino acids from the animal-based foods.
00:52:55
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Taurine is a very interesting sulfur-containing amino acid, only found in animals, except for seaweed. There's a particular kind of seaweed. It's the only plant that has taurine, which is really weird. But taurine is a really important nutrient found in animal-based foods, especially eggs and meat. Seafood is a great source of all kinds of good nutrition.
00:53:19
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oysters and clams and crabs and lobsters. Those are all really, really healthy foods. And of course, eggs are a bargain really, certified organic, you know, never cage. You sort of want top of the line eggs, but they're very, very nutritious and very, very healthy food. And then I mentioned fermented foods. I like to eat a lot of sauerkraut and apple cider vinegar. It's possible that the microbes in the fermented foods can break down glyphosate because acetobacter
00:53:47
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There are some species of acetobacter that can break it down. And I don't know whether the ones in those typically can or cannot, but it could be the case that you could get rid of your glyphosate before you even swallow it by virtue of having microbes in the fermented foods help you out. So that would be an interesting thought. Cool. That's really amazing. Yeah, that's amazing.
00:54:10
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And then I should say high fat diet. I have to say this, saturated fats in particular, saturated fats are a good source of low deuterium nutrients. And butter, for example, is fantastic. It has a lot of butyrate. And butyrate is that fuel that the colonicides love. And it has low deuterium because it comes from milk. Remember, cow's milk, breast milk is low in deuterium. So cow's milk is, and the butter is especially low in deuterium. So animal-based fats and saturated fats tend to have
00:54:39
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the lowest determine any foods. Very cool. Very good. Well, we like to hear that for sure. That's so amazing. I want to ask you one more, and this might be a big loaded question. You know, I questioned a lot the materialistic construct, especially in biochemistry, learning about it. And mostly because of the beautiful complexity
Complexity of Life and Philosophical Reflections
00:55:10
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metabolism, you know, we have trillions of reactions going on at one in every second, right? At any given time, there's a trillion reactions going on. And, you know, I can't help but think that the materialistic construct is completely flawed. And I know Albert Sen's Georgy talked about this a lot, called it the billiard ball theory of biochemistry, how it's not just random interactions. I don't know if you
00:55:39
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ever consider this or have any thoughts on this, but I'd love to hear your thoughts. You're asking about whether there's a higher power, whether there's a God, is that what you're asking? Perhaps, in a way, yeah, in a way, certainly. I find biology so fascinating and so miraculous. I find it really hard to believe that it could even exist. It's like it's so mystical and magical that you can't imagine how it could possibly come to be, right?
00:56:06
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And to invoke God is kind of to be cheating in a way because you still don't know how he did it, right? But I do find, I do contemplate this question of how the impossibility of what we see is actually there. And it mystifies me and it fascinates me. And I would call it miraculous. It certainly doesn't seem like something that could just happen by accident. It certainly does not.
00:56:35
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So then exactly how did it happen? I don't know. It doesn't satisfy me to say, oh, God did it. You know, therefore that's the end of the story. That's too simple, right? I still want to know how God did it. I just want to know how. So yeah, I do find it amazing and unbelievable. It's not something you would ever believe could be possible in any rational way, you know?
00:57:00
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the complexity of what goes on and how well it works in spite of all this exposure that we're getting to all these toxic things. It's amazing how well it works most of the time. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I appreciate your answer to that so honestly. Yeah. Just personally, it's just something that just blows my mind. And I suppose it may be a little illogical to say that, you know,
00:57:26
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They, you know, they do talk about a logical fallacy and being that is it the God of gaps, you know, that since there is gaps, that that is evidence for God. And you mean in the evolutionary path? No, sort of the gaps, the fallacy is that there are gaps, even within our biology. And, you know, what we don't understand is kind of the explanation that there must be a higher power now. Yes.
00:57:53
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Yeah, I don't think that that's not what convinces me, but I hear a lot of people say like, Oh, well, we don't know this, so it must be due to due to, you know, a higher power, maybe something like that. But it's certainly so fascinating. And the deeper I go, it's just it seems, you know, it just is mind boggling to see it. And because it's interesting, I think, you know, goes against
00:58:20
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thermodynamics. It's so unbelievably complex that we're going against this fundamental law. It just blows my mind. It's amazing. Yeah, you wonder how the enzymes do it. Of course, the people who study the enzymes don't know how they do it, but they know they are incredibly good at making something go 10,000 times or a million times faster than it would
00:58:41
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would go without the enzyme and the enzymes are incredibly good at getting something to happen that would never happen just naturally without the enzyme, you know, these enzymes are so skilled and how did they come to be? I mean, the whole thing is just really way over the top. And that's, of course, what makes it fun for me. I mean, I just really I keep on wanting to understand more and I feel
00:59:03
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frustrated when I can't get the answer. I'm putting all these puzzle pieces together and sometimes I just really want to know this and I can't find it anywhere and I get really annoyed. It's really... But it's exciting. Great hobby. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, it's so fascinating, so interesting. So I guess I just want to open up the floor to let you have any final thoughts, anything that you might have missed that you want to add, any little message you want to give to the listeners or
00:59:34
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Yeah, I just hope that people will pick up on this and get excited too because I love the biology. A lot of people, their eyes glaze over and I get too technical and they get bored. I like puzzles and biology is like a magnificent puzzle. And when you learn enough, you become really caught up in it to the point where it becomes almost an obsession. And for me, it brings me great joy. So I would encourage people to think about
01:00:03
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even, you know, for example, learning more about biology, taking courses even, but to try to get a better education in that space so that they can, and it's important to do so because you need to be able to be healthy and you need to understand what it means, how to be healthy. And you can appreciate how to be healthy more if you understand how it works, you know, to some extent. So I think it's a great field of study and I get disappointed at how little people know about biology. So I would really encourage your listeners to
01:00:33
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just try to learn more about biology. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I agree. Learning is, is powerful. It's very powerful. It's something that can't be taken away from you ever. So we love that here. We love learning as much as we possibly can. So how can the listeners,
01:00:56
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Learn more from you, and how can they support you? You have an amazing book. Read this book. I go into detail about exactly how glyphosate. A lot of evidence that it's substituting for glycine during protein synthesis, particularly for that EPSP synthase, it's a good story. And it's hard to come up with another story that would make more sense than to just say it's substituting for the glycine.
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And once you realize that, then you have all these other proteins that are going to be susceptible to glyphosate and you can connect those dots, which is a fun activity. But, um, yeah, my book, and then I have a webpage, definitely center.net. Yeah. We'll put that down below there for easy access. Yeah. There's a group of us who've been doing, um, uh, a monthly event where we, uh, we talk among ourselves as a Michelle Pero, who's an MD.
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a pediatrician and then Zen Hunnicutt, she's the founder of Moms Across America and she's an advocate for healthy eating and she's into sort of toxic exposures in the food. The three of us have been doing a podcast in the event every month and we have them, it's called the New MDs, Moms, Doctors and Scientists, MDS, so the New MDs, that's the name of the
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group and we have a webpage where you can look at all, we've done over, I think we've done 17 episodes so far and the last one was on to Cheerium, so that might be a good one to check out. Cool, yeah, amazing. Awesome, well I really appreciate your time, I'm so grateful that we connected here today and that you got to share everything. You've certainly given me a lot to think about, a lot to chew on and I'm sure the listeners feel the same way. Yes, it's really tremendous stuff, it's so fun, so I hope people
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