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Episode 46 - ADHD and Emotional Dysregulation

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This week, Paul and Martin (co-mayors of ADHDville) chat about emotional dysregulation. You know, that thing where you seem to go from zero to one hundred. Its all to do with our brains. It can effect work and your homelife and can lead to self-doubt, isolation, depression and self-esteem issues. But the boys have some strategies that might help. 

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Cooking Skills and Ramen Discussion

00:00:00
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just before we start this episode I just want to point out we have some real technical issues on this on this episode more on the video than on the nonne dialogue but you know anyway we struggle through we struggle through we thank you for your patience all right on with the show come on come on there we go back in the room back in the room so yeah Martin I just want to say you mate are killing it in the kitchen at the moment what the hell oh things are coming up on tiktok lobster yeah crazy stuff what amazing that's just normal that's just a normal week is it something you can't do is there like a dish like yes oh a dish but
00:00:51
Speaker
I don't know, I think there's no dish I wouldn't attempt, but then I wouldn't necessarily say that it was any good. I mean, but doesn't your partner,
00:01:06
Speaker
she's a proper chef, right? Not not like me, just like it's just a rank amateur. she wish she She made ramen this week. she was It was amazing. It's like a whole day cooking. I think ramen was just like like easy. It was just like a broth, you know, throw some stuff in it. It's not, and it's good. And it's good. Wow. It's good. It's good. yeah like I know my way around a spoon. What are you like with a wok? Are you good with a wok?
00:01:44
Speaker
Yes. Are you? They're quite tricky ones. Yeah, I could with a walk as well. Okay, nice. All right, okay. Yeah, just keep the heat high. Fucking go

Introduction and ADHD Context

00:01:54
Speaker
for it. All right, um um and with that tasty intro, welcome to ADHDville.
00:02:10
Speaker
Tasty intro.
00:02:19
Speaker
Okay, hello, I'm Paul Thompson, I was diagnosed with the the combined AD and the HD, ADH and the D, ah nine months ago, almost 10 even. Blimey, and I was diagnosed with the combined poo poo platter in 2013.
00:02:42
Speaker
a while ago so it's what it's important to say that there is no let's start let's talk it okay go get all excited so we're just two mates who by coincidence or not after almost 40 years of friendship just that we're co ADHD is hurrah important to say that this is an

Emotional Dysregulation in ADHD

00:03:02
Speaker
entertainment course. Of course, it is about ADHD and just don't substitute for individualized advice from qualified health professionals. So, don't take any advice from us. We just have kind of all-inclusive ADHD, pop edge, with room for your body doubles, your chaperones, and even your best buddies. Do please. Still here. Great. Grab your, chip grab your jet packs, your petalos, space hoppers, or any other transport
00:03:30
Speaker
to ADHDville. And in Machinery Tower, we're created in our minds, where we like to explore different parts of ADHD. Yeah, and we start off as always here in the Town Hall, where we, the joint mayors of ADHDville, take care of business. I'm not going to hesitate because Paul's mic is cutting in and out, but I'm going to soldier on anyway. I'm going to soldier on anyway.
00:04:01
Speaker
because i god wait we're we're We're just going to see how far we get. That's thats that's how we how we're going to roll. wing i'm gonna wig it We are going to freaking win it. I've got two things on the agenda two today. we're We're going to talk about emotional dysregulation.
00:04:24
Speaker
Right. And then, uh, it is a big one. And then we've got somebody else. Uh, I don't have my, uh, my show notes in front of me because when we did the whole technical restart thing, I forgot to pull up, pull up the whole script. But, um, I believe after that, we're, we are doing a new thing, which is honoring, honoring uh, special people of, of ADHD. So if you listen to this podcast and you interact with us, maybe that person will be you, uh, keep missing and we'll, and, and, and we should do a, like an, an honor, uh, a honoree celebration thing at the end.
00:05:09
Speaker
mentions all right yeah well It's time to jump in the car, mate. Let's just jump in the car. so where we going should we go to the spa oh yeah because you know this regulation let's just try and keep the things chill you may as well be submerged in a jacuzzi or something let's go
00:05:54
Speaker
yeah ah Other fruits are available. um so yeah emotional dysregulation. It's a big one. One person actually called it emotional incontinence. Oh, right. You know, you you know, take that how you how you will. Yeah. But it's come up as like a pretty it's a big one, Martin. Mm hmm. Right.
00:06:24
Speaker
um It didn't really come up, it didn't really pop into my kind of like radar sphere of ADHD until quite recently. I kind of like strayed onto it, like, oh, most ridiculous.
00:06:41
Speaker
be a couple of times just wasn't in the mood you know it wasn't in the mood for it oh no i think i've watched something stupid instead you know like exactly you know ah turns out there's probably a good reason why i didn't go into because it's actually it is it is quite uh for me it's one of the most one of the tricky trickiest parts of my adhd okay but before we get into like maybe personal examples martin Mm hmm. We've got something as well. I've got like a lucky definition here. OK. Now, the inability flexibly to respond to and manage emotional states resulting in tense, prolonged emotional reactions that deviate from social norms. Yes, hello, Norm. Given the nature of the environment stimuli encountered,
00:07:38
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Such reactions not only deviate from accepted social norms, but also surpass what is normally deemed appropriate or proportional to the encountered stimuli.
00:07:53
Speaker
internalized behaviors so they've they've like categorize the other two categories internalize and externalize okay just to run down a list internalized behaviors um uh could be exhibiting emotions too intense for a situation difficulty calming down when upset difficulty decreasing negative emotions being less able to calm themselves dip difficulty understanding emotional experience experiences I've highlighted that and I can't remember why.

Impact on Relationships and Personal Growth

00:08:25
Speaker
Anyway, becoming avoidant. Oh, it's a big one. Become an avoidant. Okay. Or i've I've highlighted that as well. Or aggressive when dealing with negative emotions.
00:08:38
Speaker
And the last one on that list suppressing a reaction is sometimes more about how to spend, how to respond and less about the actual, um, equation itself. Okay. Externalizing. Okay. wellli Okay. Excited difficulty under identified emotional cues, and emotional cues. All right. Difficulty recognizing
00:09:07
Speaker
negative with difficulty controlling their attention being impulsive difficulty decreasing their negative emotions difficulty calming down when upset because that's a big one for me what's that can you repeat that one because uh flight flight all right yeah I mean okay so yeah this is the thing right this is where you can find yourself going from like zero to 100 you know over small things you know and that could be like and that can show up all kinds of places like at work you know like if you
00:09:51
Speaker
uh you can end up being difficult to work with yeah you know like if if you if you just kind of like get um angry at work that's as like that can be fatal and then in your personal life I think that's where it kind of tends to show up more, right? You know, like, you know, because your, your partner can leave this toilet seat up or they're stacked with dishwasher the wrong way or, or whatever. They slurp their food and then all of a sudden you're like. Yeah. He's losing his mouth open.
00:10:32
Speaker
Right, but also doesn't necessarily emotional dysregulation or the kind of how it outwardly shows up doesn't always have to be angry. It could be suppression, which is just as bad because in the end, I think sometimes it's masking, isn't it? You're like, oh, I think I better shut myself down, you know,
00:10:59
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Right. can It could be perplexing to other people. It's like, oh, where did Paul go? You know, it's like he shut down. Right. Because because the the typical thing with emotional dysregulation is is that you get angry, right?
00:11:14
Speaker
um yeah but But I guess you can also be upset, so it's like any any sort of emotional outburst. but i mean But when it comes to anger, and and and especially because I've got like a a narcissist parent
00:11:32
Speaker
It meant that that they that my parents, both of them, um were not in in emotionally intelligent people, right? So so they would shut down any any emotional outburst from me. Because I can remember being angry and difficult as a kid, or at least that's what I was told.
00:11:56
Speaker
So I feel like what happened was that my parents just kind of squashed that. And then in it and what happens was was that that um anger or that emotional dysregulation just went inside. Right. So all those all those emotions just bundled themselves into an into an.
00:12:16
Speaker
and and into an elevator, hit the basement button, went down and then got a shovel and dig down even further until they until they met the ancient creatures of the underworld. I mean, so I was never really a big angry outburst person because because yeah my upbringing just taught me just to like squash that right down.
00:12:42
Speaker
Yeah, which is almost the same really I was like taught I was taught the the best way to deal with it was to suppress it But in the end as you probably know it in the end that just comes to make you more and more Frustrated it's like you become like a you know, you you're really Oh my god, Paul. She's ready to blow It was just I'm out you have to come out somewhere Somewhere it's got to come out Yeah, one way or another. It's gonna get ya. It's gonna get It's gonna get ya. It's gonna get ya. One way or another. It just wasn't invited. It's like I was seen as a troublemaker. You rebel you Paul. Yeah.
00:13:27
Speaker
And at work, I was called a loose cannon. Anyway, that's another story. um Yeah, I remember that. I don't know. My ideas and my thoughts suppressed. And today is like if something that triggers me really easily someone. If I feel like my my ideas or my thoughts aren't kind of welcome or, you know. Yeah.
00:13:55
Speaker
it it almost like i almost feel like it it's part of rsd rejection sensitivity disorder as well like like you're kind of like sort of waiting, know um you know that you you can be easily easily triggered by by that right of feeling defensive or someone saying something to you and then you and then your emotional dysregulation kicks in. um yeah And you kind of like over blow the whole thing. I am yeah better about being more annoyed now.
00:14:38
Speaker
rather than not being annoyed right oh rather no no i mean that's i'm better at being annoyed now rather than suppressing being annoyed at least then what then what comes into it is the hachi how how you let it out you know and its Oh, yeah, no, because part of of that is like, what they call arousal reduction. So that's like, um what do you do? What do you do to kind of like try and
00:15:16
Speaker
to to kind of ah reduce that that that down. So one thing that I find that I do, if I start to get angry, I will I will go and start to clean something. I will. Really? I'm going to start cleaning the kitchen. I'm going to start vacuuming something. You know, like something physical. I think it's it's it's it's a physical thing. There we go. It's a physical action, right? So you have to kind of get has to come out somewhere. So you'll go and go and pick up a shovel and dig a hole. Go punch a policeman. No, and no, we don't. ra and Don't go punch a random person.
00:16:02
Speaker
No, we don't actually <unk> do that she punch a random person. I was at school, and I was having a really bad day, because I'd had a really bad evening the night before. And I was just like, I was just like, like, like a bear in a cage. um And I was at school and um I was just
00:16:28
Speaker
I was just like a seething kind of like mess of like oozing anger and stuff. I queued up for lunch and someone behind me like kicked my bag. Apparently the queue would move forward and someone would kick my bag from behind. And I turned around and hit a person that kicked my bag. Blimey! It turned out to be my best mate.
00:16:55
Speaker
oh jesus come on yeah right god this is so hit me he he he he back and we just laughed all right carry on nothing to see here carry on oh blimey yeah ah good lord but can you your your your frustration or or anger, how how long could that last? Because for me, I can go, I'm much better at it now, much better. But in my past, i for me, it could go on for days. If it's like an issue at work, or in my personal life, I could be in like, mess of like, ah oozing anger, and just like, pent up aggression for like days.
00:17:47
Speaker
yeah i think you know honestly i think there's stuff i'm still angry about 30 years ago like like i was in the car park you know uh where we used to work at the redland right and there was this staff car park and i'm parked there in my car waiting i don't know what i'm doing i'm just sitting there And then there's a guy the in the who's parked next to me, he gets in his car and he pulls out. But as he's pulling out and he curves around, he just runs his bumper down the side of my car, by as he pulls out. And I'm like, and I get out.
00:18:27
Speaker
I'm like, what are you doing, mate? And he's like, i I didn't do that. And and and then he just drove off. And I'm like, what an asshole. And this. Yeah, sorry about that, Marti. That was me, I think.
00:18:43
Speaker
fuck you know I should have just punched you. I should have just punched you then been and there. just She's still angry about it now. There is still like one brain cell who's like teething about it. Yeah, yeah somewhere in my head, but on a normal day to day level.
00:19:03
Speaker
I can get really angry and it can last, I don't know, anything from, yeah, I mean, it can be like hours. And then it just starts to taper down after that. But yeah, it can be days, days of, yeah you know, of of kind of like working through that, processing that, getting back to normal can be a long time.
00:19:31
Speaker
or working through and then me sometimes working through it would be an ridiculous confusion of just not being able to work out the situation.

Autism, Emotions, and Brain Function

00:19:46
Speaker
Like I in my mind, um in my mind, I imagine the word just like, you know, you know, pick the logic out of it and just carry on. For me, I'm just like, I don't get it.
00:19:59
Speaker
I just total confusion and frustration and disbelieving.
00:20:07
Speaker
Right. Do you think that that's like a little bit part of and of an ah then of an autism thing where, like me, yeah yeah yeah you kind of just don't understand what went on. You just, like, you just, it's just- Well, that's Asperger's, isn't it? Same thing, yeah. Yeah. sister They don't, you're not supposed to use that expression anymore, but it's just lumped into autism. Asperger's is the inability to recognize situations
00:20:43
Speaker
know Right. um Yeah. So and just and manage them in a normal way. Yeah. So just for clarity, Asperger's is the old name of which all autism is now the newest now we lumped into. Yeah.
00:20:58
Speaker
autism so um yeah yeah yeah yeah so um that's uh yeah no i mean like i i i feel that as i've got older i'm less like i i understand more of myself and other people and i kind of less things trigger my emotional just this regularity I think I gave up trying to understand a lot of people, you know, just like because it was exhausting.
00:21:33
Speaker
You know, a lot of times it's a total waste total total waste of energy. You know, it wasn't like, oh, that was a good use of my energy being in like a seething froth for three weeks. Am I breaking up? but Oh yeah, terribly. I'm just, yeah, I'm just like, which is why I've kind of got the really odd reactions. It's just just like, I don't know where I am in this conversation.
00:22:02
Speaker
I'm wondering whether you turn off your video and whether the audio gets better. I don't know. I was just going to bring us back because I know that we didn't kind of get that bit. So I just want to bring us back around to the whole fight or flight response.
00:22:24
Speaker
thing because um the the the the well let's talk about the the brain the brain for ah a second so um what happens with and with with emotional dysregulation is that you've got the part of the brain called the ah amygdala which is like really um early the dinosaur brain if you like and and that's where the the fight off or flight part lives and that part of the of the brain um it reacts to and and it processes the external stuff so like if someone's talking to you
00:23:14
Speaker
it that's what it pays attention to and and then it did just yeah it decides what what it what it should do.

Strategies for Managing Emotions

00:23:21
Speaker
so that's so we So when you're talking about fight or flight,
00:23:27
Speaker
That kicks in. That's where the flight comes on. That's the kind of, that's your, that's your, that's your pterodactyl brain. And then you're going to flap off. Okay. Yeah. It's interesting. Well, while you're saying that or is interested like for years, that would, I was, this would happen quite often. Well, almost exclusively in personal situations with a girlfriend or something. And, you know, there's a, you know, there's some conflict.
00:23:57
Speaker
the instinct for me to get out of that location, go into a safe space, or to go anywhere else other than there was really strong. Yeah. The diagnosis rate is really helps with it. Oh, okay. You know, it's like, okay, it kind of all makes sense now. You know, right. Which is kind of fine, you know, like,
00:24:26
Speaker
you know, chase it off at the pass. Right. At least it it kind of helps to know that so that at least you can either explain it before or you can kind of go into your head and kind of go, oh, yeah I really want to get out. I know why I want to get out, but perhaps I should stay here and hash it out.
00:24:53
Speaker
kind of thing or you could just all say, look, usually in this situation ah or you could say, to be honest, I have this really, really, really strong instinct too to, to, um, you know, just run away. I don't know. That's not a good thing. But you know, it's like, you'd be really transparent about it.
00:25:17
Speaker
Right. Or, you know, or you can say, look, I need to leave this situation for a couple of minutes. I just need to kind of go into another room, collect myself. And then I'll, and then I, I am, I am interested in, in resolving this. I'll come back. Yeah. I'll come back in in a couple of minutes. Cause usually the, ah the response was.
00:25:41
Speaker
Holy shit. You know, if you can't deal with this, you know, why, why would I get into a relationship with someone that, that, you know, takes flight every time something difficult happens, you know, right? It's not good. That's all they just feel abandoned. You know, it's like abandoned, right? Which is not what it's about. No, no, but at least if you know it, you can form strategies around it and then yeah you can hopefully make things a bit better. Right. Yeah.
00:26:11
Speaker
Exactly. I would say. Exactly. Oh, I did have a list somewhere of things that you could do, which I don't have. Crazy. What's going on in my, this is like, this is, this is getting more shambolic. Oh, here we go. I have a few things.
00:26:29
Speaker
ah There we go. I have a list of things that that we could do that we could do to help. Yes, I've got a bit of a list, something similar. OK. All right. Well, let's see. Here we go. I'll I'll I'll start off with with one and then and then if you have a list, then maybe you do the second one and then I'll do the third one. OK. All right.
00:26:58
Speaker
more like ping pong this. Yeah, it's all right. So like Olympics. Mm hmm. Yeah, like, yeah, relay. Alright, so the first one I've got is like, is like, step back and name those feelings. So it's like, when you can feel that dysregulation come and all those feelings start to swell up.
00:27:25
Speaker
is to kind of go, oh, am I feeling anger? Am I feeling shame? um um Am I feeling fear? What is it that I'm feeling? Like just trying to kind of like distance yourself slightly one step out by kind of going, okay, I'm feeling this, I'm feeling that. You know, like just trying to kind of recognize when those feelings start to kind of surface rather than just kind of letting them yeah just confuse you. So that's one. Step back and name those feelings.
00:28:06
Speaker
what you got mr t i've i've got i've got a distraction oh yes very nice sometimes you just need like the simplest of things like someone said when they when they can like feel triggered or angered by something and they're like just want to get really angry they would they would break into a song oh which song which which song i would like these shit this is' It's a form of jazz. I can't remember what it's called. Always look on the bright side of life.
00:28:43
Speaker
Nice. It's a type of jazz that he would do like ah this. I can't remember what it's called. It's got a very specific name, but a very typical. Oh, right. wait So he's like, he said he works every time. He's like, I can't find you. You stack the dishwasher. Like, why'd you put the older shit with the body but but he's like scoopby to
00:29:08
Speaker
Scatting, what is it? Scatting. He would scat. He would scat. That's what he'd do. He would scat to distract himself. I think that would just confuse my wife, to be honest. Be like, what the hell are you doing? she Putting putting on on a show right in the middle of an argument.
00:29:32
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Right.
00:29:37
Speaker
OK, so dis oh I've heard other people say they would go and they would just go and clean their teeth. ah Yeah, I mean, I so i i so saw said that I like to go and clean something. um Exercise is it a is it is it is a pop popular one, like you just kind of get right, you know, I've just got I've just got to go for a run or or' just got to, you know.
00:30:00
Speaker
go go swimming or something just to kind of like yeah physical dig a hole mr thompson dig a hole dig a hole that has happened ah have oh a big one and started thinking know oh right yeah this is there's a pattern here and a garden full of holes
00:30:25
Speaker
Yeah, like your neighbor can, can just look over the fence and go. He's like, man, Paul's going, going through a tough time. Here you go. Have at it on me lawn.
00:30:43
Speaker
and So have you got a pass in the baton? I've got one. passing the baton uh identify yeah because oh i'll just say i identify sort of uh signs physically so sometimes it a especially if you're a little bit on the autistic side you may not necessarily recognize when you start feeling like all of this stuff is happening like ah so.
00:31:19
Speaker
I can tell that so so if I start hard staring the person, I mean, you know, like when you're like, you know, pa just like doing it, doing a hard stare.
00:31:34
Speaker
Yeah, adding to base to do that with his name, giving someone a hard stir. So if I, if I find myself giving a hard stare to someone, I go, oh, hang on. I'm, I'm starting here. I mean, you might also like start to feel agitated didn't you and you notice that you're, you know, that you start, you know, um, sort of stimming.
00:31:58
Speaker
You know, your legs start bouncing more or you, you know, or you start fiddling with things more, you know, like you just kind of get, um, uh, you might stop picking your eyebrows or whatever, you know, just kind of like looking for physical science. Yeah. If you've noticed that, that, that you're starting to do these things, you know, that could be a sign that you're starting to have a, you know, that you're starting to dis-regulate. Yeah. Okay.
00:32:28
Speaker
passing the baton. Yes, I've got here avoiding places that provoke avoid people avoid places and people that might provoke you. Oh, yes, if I can avoid. um so I've said this so many times in our podcast, but if I can avoid ah like a really big pizza restaurant that's just got a low ceiling and um
00:32:56
Speaker
and it's just gonna drive me insane. I'll actually, i had I've started telling people, look, I can survive this for about an hour, then I have to just get out. Because it just really drives me insane. Yeah. Avoiding people and situations that you know, trigger you.
00:33:19
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Oh, let's be honest. We've all we've all had friends that there's some I had friends once. Did you? A long time ago, this friendship is a bit shit. I think I'm just going to next time they say, oh, to come to the pub and have a drink and say, oh, sorry, I need to sort out my sock drawer. Mm hmm. I know.
00:33:48
Speaker
Like I'm not very good at getting out of situations. You know, some people are really deft in in terms of like maneuvering delicately out of situations, either verbally or any other way.

Reflective Practices and Listener Engagement

00:34:02
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I'm not good at it.
00:34:03
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Oh, I know what would you mean. You just trapped, trapped. You don't know how to get out of some stupid dumb ass conversation with someone. Then you get in that, you can just, yeah, you just, I'm sorry. I've got, I've got terrible diarrhea this evening. I need to go to the toilet. ah I'm sorry, but my leg seems to fall off.
00:34:29
Speaker
It's, it's just, yeah. Yeah. It's, that's like social skills, right? That's part of the social skills thing that, that sometimes we don't, we have trouble learning.
00:34:46
Speaker
I tried to get out of a really boring conversation and I said, I've got a really bad migraine. I'm going to I'm going home but I did it in a really bad way. It was really obvious to everyone that I just made it up. What does that say? I've got a migraine. Bye. Oh, hey. Oh, it's migraine. Yes. Yes. I oh like grade ah think I was going to have to lie down in a dark room. but yeah if i don't if i don't leave now i'm gonna punch you goodbye goodbye anyway anything else on your list martin are you gonna pass the baton oh you're gonna pass the baton um
00:35:32
Speaker
I have uh well it's it's it's kind of like um oh robert but ah write it out now this is something that that that I don't do and I have trouble wrapping my head around doing it but if you journal if you journal your feelings brilliant that's helpful it's helpful to get it out right and to understand, yeah to write it out. I don't do that. and But I know that it's it's a people do and they find it very helpful. um Also, you know that thing, I think it falls into the same category of, um and i I do do this, um I will write out my angry email or my angry text and then not send it.
00:36:26
Speaker
So I'll try ah write it out. I've done that. No, it's a good one. It's a good one, Martin. Okay. Yeah. Okay. um I've also got... um do your i think i thought think I think this is somewhat connected with... them doing a this did hey distraction. So maybe it's just part of that, but it's like, do your special interest thing. That yesterday I was doing my sculpture and I got interruption rage. Oh, I can imagine. And I ah caught myself and it was only my girlfriend who was really sweetly asking, you know, you know, what would you like for lunch?
00:37:07
Speaker
um dr And then one that wasn't on on and and on anyone's list that that the that I could see, which I felt like was worthy of pointing out was to, after the whole thing, is there something that you could learn from that? So it is about and kind of, once you've gone through the whole thing and you've kind of calmed back down, you sort of look back and kind of go,
00:37:35
Speaker
Right. is Is there anything to learn here? you know was there a Was there a trigger? was Was there something that I could have done better? Was it the environment I was in? Did I put myself into a into a situation? yeah had Had I eaten? Had I not had i not had enough?
00:37:53
Speaker
water, food, I mean, you know, it's just kind of like, was there something that made that worse? Or was there something that really helped? You know, like, oh, i I should pat myself on the back because I recognized what I was doing and then I stopped myself and I went, oh, sorry, sorry, yeah, I'm just, this is just interruption rage or or whatever, right? um And then you catch yourself And then then you should give yourself a pat on the back. Yeah.
00:38:28
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All right. Do we have anything else to add before we go to the post office? No? No. All right. Well, let's jump in the car and we'll head to the post office.
00:38:54
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I'm just gonna jump in here. say yes So yeah, so if you, if you um so get involved in the in comments and we will read read them out. um So I have one that was on TikTok. This is ah Rachel Hartman, 621. She says, your content is wonderful.
00:39:14
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always watch or save it for later as as as i feel i have no time i always get to it you are you are you are better with a heart emoji there we go who's that rachel hartman six two one oh nice sir thanks rachel all right so this is a comment from lee from dundee she says Thank you for sharing stuff that I thought only happened to me, e.g. feeling safe in your sadness or sabotage when you're happy. um It's anxiety pervoking because it's bloody uncomfortable and new. You too are superb.
00:40:04
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Um, I look forward to watching every episode every Tuesday. It's a proper routine for me now. See you again next week. And thank you. No, that's brilliant. Yeah. I must say admit when I first, it's actually before I had ADHD diagnosis and I suddenly realized that I self sabotaged. It was, it was, I was destroyed.
00:40:31
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Mm. Realizations like me, there's a I've got this terrible pattern of self sabotage. It was really upsetting anyhow. Yeah. gone Anyway, so let's get back into the car because we're going to go back to the um town hall where we can bestow some honours on a on a a citizen of ADHDville who who who we we believe deserves ah deserves deserves recognition.
00:41:09
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that's That's the word I'm looking for. All right, let's go.
00:41:20
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Right, so back in the town hall, Paul. So as you, as you know, you know, if you listen to this podcast, you're part of ADHDville, but then there are some people who are, who are very active and, ah um and we should, and we should record.
00:41:37
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nice them right yes so um yes so uh ambassadors yeah it really so i believe it's part of our mayor's duty so that we can bestow key keys of of of these hetty so keys of adhdville and uh And this this week we are going to bespear it, bespear it, bestow it on. I'm I'm I'm loving wise how much of a hash I'm making of this. um We're going to Paul and I are going to bestow um the keys of ADHDville to Lee of Dundundee.
00:42:26
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um totally for watching our show, for commenting, being a lovely human being on her own journey. um So congratulations to you. You are our first.
00:42:42
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um what do we um Anyway, you're special. i best maybe we should we'll have we'll have we'll have a run sometime for for a guest special guest appearance oh there we go so uh yeah lee if you're up for it get it get in the comments um and we can and we'll sort that out and um all right move on to the last part yeah if you could because i'm just trying to pull up the flipping script oh okay i've got it yeah so um
00:43:20
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Please subscribe to the ah to the pod rate is most magnificent. Thank you. um Or mostly magnificent. And feel free to correspond at will they in the comments is an exclamation mark. Mm hmm. Sally forth to the YouTube and the TikToks. Nice. In the meantime, Martin's got a message for you. Just to just be fucking kind to yourself.
00:43:52
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ah There's the music to save us.