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Episode 135: ADHD & Misophonia: When chewing sounds make you want to leave the planet
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Ever feel like certain sounds — loud chewing, slurping, bagpipes, or even someone saying the word "trimmings" — send your brain from zero to rage in 0.2 seconds? Welcome to misophonia, the not-so-fun cousin of ADHD sensory sensitivity.
In this episode, your honorary ex-mayors of ADHDville, Martin and Paul, get into the good, the bad, and the please-make-it-stop sounds that trigger disproportionate levels of internal chaos. From noodle slurping in China to accidentally befriending a mosquito in Italy (yes, really), they explore why ADHD brains struggle to filter certain noises and why that baby crying on the plane isn't just annoying — it's physically painful.
Plus: harpsichords, farting as a greeting (not a joke), and a quiz that goes exactly where you'd expect.
So grab a drink (no beer with milk, please), put on your headphones, and join us for a very loud chat about why silence is sometimes the only true love language.
🔊 New episodes every Tuesday. Subscribe for more ADHD chaos, curiosity, and questionable life choices.
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Transcript
00:00:00
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Go pack in the room. Back in the room. Back, back, back, back, back in the room, back in the room. So tell us, Martin, why why aren't we here? What are we doing? What's the theme of this podcast?
Introduction to ADHD and Misophonia
00:00:12
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ah what what Good, good question. We're talking about ADHD and misophonia. Okay, excellent. And we're going to... I know I Yeah, I'm just trying to sound...
00:00:27
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You know, like, um you know, improvising. Hailey. All right. So let's go to a place where the distractions are landmarks and the details are on main roads.
Welcome to ADHDville
00:00:39
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Welcome to ADHDville.
00:00:41
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Go there!
00:00:44
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Nice. Very nice. Hello, I'm Paul Thompson and I was diagnosed with the combined A, D, H and D again, again, tracking towards three yonks ago.
00:01:10
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again trucking towards three yonks ago Wow. Three youngsters. And I'm Martin West, and was officially diagnosed with the combined ADHD, poopoo plaster in 2013, and self-diagnosed of ah autistic. And we are the mayors of ADHDville.
00:01:27
Speaker
Hello. We are hanging out at the ah King's Agitated Head pub in ADHDville. Yes. Where we sit at the back, enjoy a drink, and take- Stopping.
00:01:39
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Take care of business. Supping on ah on ah on a on a on a pint. Well, I mean, I have a whole glass
Pub Stories and Drinking Experiences
00:01:47
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of a of of of of of of vodka here. so right Right. You were never a drinker, were you, Martin?
00:01:56
Speaker
Not really. We used to meet at pubs. We used to meet with friends at pubs. And I used to pretend to keep up and then I had stopped. Pretend. Yeah. but And then I was never I could never put, you know, there was got we had a group of friends, you know, and, you know, we'd meet occasionally and they they were knocking down the part, knocking down, knocking back the pints like it's no one's business.
00:02:21
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Yeah. I could never do that. No, no. I could. i did have nights. I've had plenty of nights where I was definitely on the shots.
00:02:33
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banging them Banging them away. that Very ugly. I've never seen you ugly drunk, Martin. We've known each other for nearly 40 years. I've never seen you like, holy crap, drunk.
00:02:49
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I mean, we were in Cuba. Oh, yes.
A Night in Cuba Story
00:02:55
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Oh, i have been. I have seen you drunk. Right. Yeah, was there. Yeah, fair enough.
00:03:01
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Yeah. Man. three o'clock in the morning on Mojitos. Oh. Those were days, my friend. They thought they'd never been. Oh, blimey. Anyway. You didn't end up in hospital with a prostitute like I did that night.
00:03:23
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No. No. I didn't.
00:03:28
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Oh, God. Are you just going to leave us there? but she Well, I don't know. Explain yourself to our audience. I don't remember what memories you have, it but I should point out.
00:03:43
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Oh, okay. i me and Martin, we did not go to Cuba for reasons that a lot of single men go to Cuba for, you know, sex tourism kind of things. We did not do that.
00:04:00
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And with that there wasn't our aim at all. um But I think it was the one night... one night um And there were there were a lot of um women the the bars in Havana that would you know try and you know they would kind of like come up to you and you know have and you know the get friendly and stuff. And me at you we were just we will just hang out with them and buy them drinks
00:04:31
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and have a nice chat with them. Right. That's it, you know. yeah But on this one particular night, this girl asked for a beer with milk.
00:04:43
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Wow. Beer with milk. I don't know what. Or I was so off my head on mojitos by then. She said rum and coke, and I heard beer beer.
00:04:58
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and and vodka, beer and milk. Anyway, she drank some of whatever she drank. She drank some of it and got was really, really ill and asked me to escort her to the accident and emergency.
00:05:15
Speaker
Oh, Jesus, that's right. So I ended up in this weird place underground in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of cute rid of Havana with this girl And, yeah, that was Was she okay?
00:05:33
Speaker
I don't know. What happened? Did you just kind of go... don't know. disappeared down a corridor at one point. And you went, you know what, I'm out. I'm out. I thought I'm not going to wait.
00:05:44
Speaker
I didn't know where the hell I was. You know, she was fine. Fucking hell. Good Lord. Well, okay, well, let's let's comforts let's make our way back. Back 8HT and
Understanding Misophonia
00:05:59
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Misophonia.
00:06:00
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking hell. All right, okay. All right, well, let's jump in the tractor. Where where oh are we are we going, Paul? to the coffee shop, Martin. Oh, that that that sounds safe.
00:06:14
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That sounds safe. There aren't any beers. I've never ended up in accident and emergency after a coffee shop visit. Right, yes. Still time, though. All right.
00:06:26
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Let's crack on. Crack on? Oh, yeah. Wow. Wow.
00:06:37
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What a hot start. Weird start.
00:06:45
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yes ADHD and misophonia. ah misophon yeah right well This episode is basically about... okay yes um You know those sounds that really trigger um quite a visceral, sometimes even violent reaction in your mind?
00:07:07
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In your mind, yes. It can be loads of different things. Let's start off with a classic one. People chewing loudly. Oh, okay. The thing that the the a lot of people will, it will resonate quite literally.
00:07:23
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Right. It will resonate for them. right Right. So it's it's it's like sounds that when you hear them, you kind of go from zero to 100 on the kind of on the yeah on the on the and and the anxiety. Exactly.
00:07:40
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sort but and it's not Emotional wish response is is like is yeah inappropriate, I guess, for the. for the sound yeah well they they're just um inappropriate or disproportionate disproportionate that's the word disproportionate and but it's not about it's important to distinguish what it's not about it's not it's not about um preferences that you have for when people talk you know, in modern English, to some people use the word like a lot.
00:08:15
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just Just an example. every Every second word is like, you know, like, you know, like ah like the word like, you know, like, you know, that word.
00:08:26
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Right. i Like, like. yeah That's not the thing. That's just the thing that irritates you that is you think, God, I wish they had a better grasp of their vocabulary, you know. Right. Come on.
00:08:38
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Right, but kind of mouth sounds. those Mouth sounds. Give me an example. In the northwest of England, yeah Manchester, Bolton, those kind of areas, they they have a very strong use of the word K. So if they say think, they really...
00:08:59
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Really have a strong K. Right. Right. Those things yeah can be really kind of irritating. There's actually a word for this kind of thing. It's called wet speech sounds.
00:09:13
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Oh, wow. Like the syllabant S or the clicking of the K, which I just demonstrated for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wet speech sounds that for some people can be triggering.
00:09:27
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Huh. Huh. Okay. That's interesting. I've never heard of that one. Yeah. So for me, for example, I've got a couple of things on this.
00:09:39
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At Christmas, from so someone says, OK, Paul, look, we're going to have Christmas dinner, OK, Christmas lunch, and we're going turkey, and we're going have red potatoes, and, Paul, we're going to have all the trimmings. All the trimmings?
00:09:56
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That really pisses me off. It has a really strong... a effect on me it really bugs me it's got nothing to do with vocabulary it's just the way that it sounds right okay so makes makes me makes me anxious All right. So this is a good thing. so So tomings is the English word, but Americans have a word for the same thing.
00:10:28
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And I'm just wondering whether that has the same effect, right? Okay. So the word is like, oh, yeah, um i want I want a ah hot dog with with all the fixings.
00:10:42
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fixings yeah it's well it's it's not far off the way it sounds fixing it's not far off that would like me i think it would yeah yeah yeah all right if someone said paul if you want to hot dog and do you want some ah mustard with that fine
00:11:03
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you just want you you just don't want the trimmings Trimming. Fixings. Americans say fixings. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah Fixings. That's fucked isn't it? means old it's just It just is what it is.
00:11:17
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hi all right i i I have one. So if we're just going to go back and forth on things that just really annoy us. Yeah. um Harpsichords.
00:11:31
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You know those... the sound The sound of them. The the sound of yeah of someone playing a harpsichord. It is a very... it is a very high...
00:11:42
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um, pinky plucky sound, um, that, that just, that my, that just, it's an, and, and, and, and steel drums are exactly this. The sound. It's kind of like metallic. Yeah.
00:12:02
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Yeah, so so though yes, they are both very plucky, metallic per percussion sounds, and it it's it's like it's like firing a ball bearing in my brain. Really? Just bouncing around. it it' just What
Bagpipes and Sensory Fatigue
00:12:17
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about a glockenspiel?
00:12:19
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Fine. Lovely. I love a glockenspiel. It's wood. It's a nice wood sound. Anything with wood. Well, it's funny you mention this, Martin, because the... i did I did a bit of a deep down a deep dive on the bagpipes.
00:12:34
Speaker
Oh, I love a bagpipe. yeah I love a bagpipe, but for a lot of people, it's a big freaking problem. e but up Yeah. And there's a reason why. There's a reason why.
00:12:47
Speaker
It's because, hang on, I'll just get to my research on this. Because it's an animal and it's being and it's and it's a suffering as you're squeezing it through your arm. Yes. right, that's right, Martin.
00:12:59
Speaker
Okay, let's move on to the quiz. but thank you No, it's because for some people, it's part of the problem is it's a continuous droning sound. that never stops.
00:13:14
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There's never a break in it. so that ah the science So the science, it says, for neurotypical brains, these droning sounds provide a harmonic foundation. However, however For a brain with ADHD or sensory processing so sensitivity or misophonia, the inability to filter a constant, unchanging sound can lead to sensory fatigue.
00:13:44
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yeah Okay. Okay. Or it could be another thing. It could be one of three things. It could be just the frequency range, right?
00:13:55
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All right. It can be quite high. This frequency of the frequency of a bagpipe rage is exactly where the human ear is most sensitive, Martin, as it matches the frequency of a human scream or a crying baby.
00:14:11
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Oh, yeah. Yes. Or, oh, it's actually four things. could be just the lack of of of silence. there's no There are no micro micropauses.
00:14:25
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ah Because the backpipe is essentially a pressurized reservoir and the sound is seamless. Okay? Yeah. yeah Okay. Yeah. Or it could be the um aesthetic split, the timber or texture of the of the of the sound that upsets it. Okay.
00:14:42
Speaker
All right. So this the aesthetic split, this creates a texture that some describe as bright or stirring, while others, like you, Martin, with the harpsichord, particularly those with sensitive textures in food,
00:14:59
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or sound perceived as being really scratchy or metallic. Right. Yeah. Right. It is interesting, actually, as as you're so as you're saying that, because obviously um I'm very into sound as a person. So as a musician, um i'm I think that's...
00:15:21
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my brain processes sound in in, in, I mean, I don't know. I just like it. So I just, it's always been like a bit of a special interest.
00:15:31
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So I like making sounds. I like combining sounds. So, um, So I find that quite a lot of things that people find really and and ah ah really annoying sounds, i actually don't have too much of a problem with mostly.
00:15:49
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but i But some, like, you know, some of the steel drums, bad. And and slurping. Slurping. Yeah. Noodles. Yeah.
00:16:00
Speaker
um Yes. Well, you lived in China for bit. lived in China. And when you would go out and eat in a restaurant or around anyone else, they would slurp their noodles loudly.
00:16:13
Speaker
And it drove me insane. And I was there for ah just short of a year. And I was glad to get on that plane and get out. And I remember distinctly thinking, oh, thank God I won't have to listen to anyone slurping.
00:16:32
Speaker
You know, like it was like. there is a sign of of um respect that they're enjoying the food, isn't it? isn't it Yes. But the thing is, is I can't.
00:16:44
Speaker
It's like i i like Chinese people or in Asian or whatever, they must also, there must be a bunch of of them who also have the same issues.
00:16:55
Speaker
I bet they do. i bet they have. Yeah. Surely. Yeah,
Babies Crying and ADHD Sensitivity
00:17:00
Speaker
for sure. Oh, for sure. I'm the same with um babies crying. Yeah.
00:17:08
Speaker
And this is one of the reasons why I really like doing this podcast is I discovered why i i used to, there was an element of feeling, element of guilt,
00:17:22
Speaker
Like, oh, and shame that I couldn't stand the sound of babies crying and until I did the research for this podcast, Marty. And you found out.
00:17:34
Speaker
Found out that it's just because we're ultra, is pocket it's linked to our ultra sensitivity. Yeah, we we we are not supposed to like it. right we We are supposed to hate it.
00:17:47
Speaker
Right, exactly. Exactly, Marty. It's programmed in. It's part of the default settings. Yeah, but it does make me really anxious, babies crying.
00:18:00
Speaker
As it should. It is just another example of my hypersensitivity. yeah Yeah, but i think all I think all humans, whether they're neurodivergent or not, are programmed to not like that, Sam. Yeah, I feel it more than average person does.
00:18:21
Speaker
All right. I'm quite sure of it. All right. So but but when you get on an on an aircraft, do you like – Yes. When you walk up the aisle, when you walk up the aisle, do you scan for for for for babes, for well babies?
00:18:38
Speaker
In Europe, you don't get to choose a seat. it's not like you have a choice. No, but but you still look. But you still look, though. If there's a baby crying in front of me, that could be stressful for me.
00:18:52
Speaker
Right, because I found what they do tend to do is is they'll put them at the front. You know, like there's a sort of verb r it's not of a par part with a partition. that With the pilot? with let Put all the babies in the front with the pilot.
00:19:08
Speaker
Just strap them to the nose. Yeah, it's just like a little sort of crash. So they've got the guy right at the front of the aircraft with the captain. Got babies running around.
00:19:20
Speaker
What a great idea. What could possibly go wrong? It's great idea. I know. You know what? I thought, um you know, on that thing of sort of like slurping and mouth sounds when you're eating, I thought, well, obviously, this you know, it isn't just a
Historical Irritations and Humor
00:19:37
Speaker
modern thing. It must have gone back, you know, ah through time. So I'm thinking like, so then I thought, well,
00:19:46
Speaker
Viking times, right? When you're there with your knife and you've got your meat and your and your beer and you're sloshing it around and you're a Viking and you're just like eating and chewing and and throwing food around, there must be at least one or two Vikings in there kind of going, oh, God, I fucking hate this.
00:20:05
Speaker
I fucking hate all this slurping eye mouth sounds and chewing and... you know i Totally. I've got some others here.
00:20:16
Speaker
All right. Other than slurping, we've got, yeah, loud shoe, we mentioned before, joint cracking. You know people that that crack their joints with their knuckles? Yes. ah Don't like it. I think Alexandra does or did. Oh, really? Yeah. Really bugs me a lot.
00:20:36
Speaker
I think so. And then I've got here mosquitoes.
00:20:43
Speaker
So what did I, I used to have a massive problem with it, always have done. So what did I do? I moved to Italy. All right. With a hell a lot more mosquitoes. Oh, wow, really?
00:20:55
Speaker
So in the end, to, to, to, to regain any form of sanity, made a deal with the mosquitoes. Oh, okay.
Mosquitoes and Making Peace
00:21:07
Speaker
I'm not kidding. I literally, I thought, I'd lying in bed one night, thought, Paul, You have to deal with this in a better way. So I thought I'm going to make a deal with the mosquitoes.
00:21:20
Speaker
I just let them drink all the blood they want. Just, just, just, you know just drink up. Right, right. And then just fuck off.
00:21:32
Speaker
And then fuck off. Right. Just do what you have to do. So I them. I just have great with them. And as a consequence, they're not interested anymore.
00:21:45
Speaker
Right, that's it. Fuck off. Get out of it don't They don't bother me anymore. What? Yeah. Psychological games, Marty, with skin tones. And you're alive.
00:21:56
Speaker
Marvellous. I'm alive. Yeah, they don't bother me so much they used to. Okay. Because I think that they got off on annoying me. And as soon as I wasn't annoyed so much, they didn't bother. They went on to someone else. They knew. It's like they knew.
00:22:13
Speaker
They thought, oh, fuck off. Let's go piss off someone else. Someone else, yes. Yeah. Let's go find a nun to... It's like they've known. Yeah.
00:22:24
Speaker
Oh, God. Oh, I know one that you won't like. Too many people talking at once. Oh, yes. Where there's like loads of... like It's it's like a sort of a ah a saturation of...
00:22:40
Speaker
I'm so glad you measured that i would talk well i mentioned that. went to a punk festival and there was this British band playing. and I swear to God, at at Italian concerts, Italians, they don't go to listen to music. It's just another chance for them to like meet up and chat between songs and jewelry songs.
00:23:04
Speaker
Okay. And ah ah at some point, at a certain point, was just trying to listen to the their music. And all you could hear above their music was Italians trying to talk above the music.
00:23:21
Speaker
ah't but I bet that really annoyed you. I was at the front, and I didn't look around and just, like, stare at them out. What the fuck? Just staring at the entire room. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:35
Speaker
okay What the hell? What did you come for? You just gave him an evil glare. ah But from, I mean, I actually got, ironically, i got checked out of a jazz club once, Ronnie Scott's, in Soho.
00:23:53
Speaker
Yeah. and i was doing exactly I was doing exactly that. All right. Yeah. I almost got thrown out this of the same kind it' the same place.
00:24:04
Speaker
but the same night no it was a different night i was i wasn't there do what if if it was the same night and we didn't know we were the same club i know my one was um we'd already had a few pints with my work colleagues I was already very, very drunk.
00:24:24
Speaker
ah Very, very drunk. So we decided, oh, let's go to Roddy Scott's. Good idea. oh yeah Diana Crowell was playing, singing. Okay.
00:24:35
Speaker
American lady. All right. Elvis Costello's wife. Oh, wow. Yeah. Cool. And I kept talking over the music. Loudly.
00:24:47
Speaker
They came over to me twice and warned me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because if you go to like Ronnie Scott's, it's a very serious jazz club and you do not talk over the music.
00:25:02
Speaker
no no don't get that i totally get it i go to concerts to listen to music i don't go to a concert to catch up with my mate you know and have chat during the music i like to indulge and and and absorb completely and i mean fun profoundly absorb myself in the music Right. yeah um i i was ah Our table was was being a bit loud and then some guy came over and said, Arnold
00:25:36
Speaker
Schwarzenegger would like you to to to to shut up. and we And we turned around and he was on the table. No. Just behind us.
00:25:48
Speaker
Oh, okay. ah move and Okay, very fair enough. Is Arzal Schwarzenegger the famous saxophonist? No. the the The famous governor of California.
00:26:01
Speaker
Oh, okay. And actor. And actor. And generally big man. Oh, yeah, yeah. He is fucking huge. Oh, they said Arnold Schwarzenegger would like you to be quiet. Yes.
00:26:16
Speaker
Yes. He complained about our table to the staff, and then the staff came over and told us to shower. Oh, okay. And then ah we were quiet for a while.
00:26:29
Speaker
And then about, I don't know three or four songs later, we' we would we'd we'd obviously just forgotten about Arnold Schwarzenegger. And we started chatting again. And then the band stopped.
00:26:42
Speaker
No. Mid-song. no and pointed at our table and went, can you please be quiet? and And everyone turned around. Oh, no. That's bad.
00:26:56
Speaker
Yes, I apologise to everyone in that room that night. Ah, damn it. That's bad. The other thing I remember about that night is when I get very drunk and I really like the music that I listen to, have this compulsion that's stronger than me to go up to anyone in the band afterwards as they're dismantling and tell them how much I love their set.
00:27:21
Speaker
All right. Yeah. Can't help myself. I go up to them and say, man, I really like your set. Mm-hmm. I'm that irritating person who does that. As someone who's been in a band and played many gigs and then stopped and then people come up to me, it's like, I fucking hate it. Yeah, yeah, totally. Go away. Go away. I just want to go and have ah have a drink at the bar with my mates. I don't want to talk talk to you.
00:27:51
Speaker
because it's when because they because they've Because the audience, like like like you, have so watched you for like half an hour, 45 minutes or whatever. the cabinet it And they almost feel like they know you because i looked at you for the whole time. Right. they feel like they can come, you the...
00:28:13
Speaker
You know, yeah, they just don't have that sort of... It's like I own you. It's like I've invested myself in you. and let's see It's just like a friend. they that It is almost like going up to see a friend that they know. But but for me, don't know who you are.
00:28:31
Speaker
Yeah. ah Right, so they feel like familiarity. That's the word i'm I'm hunting for. Yes, exactly. That doesn't actually exist. Right.
00:28:42
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Yeah, well, it's is very one-sided. so Have you got anything else, any other sounds, Martin, that irritate you? um People eating crisps, but but I guess that's ah that's a mouth sound as well, crisps.
00:28:58
Speaker
Plastic in cinemas. Plastic. So what? Plastic wrapping in cinemas. oh Oh, you mean like when you unwrap a candy or ah yeah like that that kind of thing.
00:29:12
Speaker
a Here's one, Paul. When you finish the said packet of cri crisps or chips, i know what you're going to say you blow up the bag yes and then you bang it. vi Remind me of anyone?
00:29:30
Speaker
Me. You circa 19... what was it? 1987. we go. Yeah. do it... 87 slash 88.
00:29:43
Speaker
You would do it once day. Yeah. you would do it once a day yeah and Yeah, I know. It's bad. It's You would finish eating... This was at art college and you're eating your salt and vinegar. In that case, it's 86.
00:30:04
Speaker
It was foundation. It wasn't... yeah Because it was it wasn't the graphic design course, it was the foundation course. Yes, it was. That's 86. Here we go.
00:30:14
Speaker
And I can remember one particular instance when you kind of blown up the bag and you're and you're and you're waiting to to bang it and we're all going, oh, no, Paul, no, no, just just don't. And he went, yeah.
00:30:30
Speaker
Bang. went, fuck it up. Yeah. I know, I know, I know. Is it funny to think 1986, though? Bloody hell.
00:30:44
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I don't have anything. Long time ago. I
Sounds We Love and Hate
00:30:49
Speaker
know. I don't have anything else on this particular subject because all I managed to to do is actually just write write down some sounds that annoyed me.
00:30:57
Speaker
Okay. And I thought that would be enough. I think I've i've i've got everything that I had, Martin. Nice. All right. Well, ah why not? um if youre If you're listening and you've got this far, well done. Give yourself a gold medal.
00:31:15
Speaker
yes Pat on the back. And get in the comments and tell us well what what sounds really, really irritate you. What are the ones that just kind of like just drive you? Oh, I've just remembered one.
00:31:27
Speaker
Oh, yeah. The glugging sound. Glugging. that the wine bottle makes with the first part that you pour. Oh yeah. that's So you uncork a bottle and it goes, I don't like that.
00:31:42
Speaker
Oh, I love that. Don't like it. It's good sound. Good sounds. Don't like glagging. i instance I like the, the you know, like so I've got a leathers a leather steering wheel, and when you kind of like just rub your hand, it kind of creaks.
00:32:03
Speaker
Right. and Oh, that sounds really nice. It has a nice creak. Have you ever had leather driving gloves? And if not, are you suddenly thinking about them?
00:32:14
Speaker
oop i mean my My granddad had driving gloves. And I'm pretty sure that my dad may have had driving gloves like when I was a little kid. He may have them. Funny, though. My granddad had driving gloves.
00:32:30
Speaker
Tan. Tan leather. Oh, yeah. I think they were all tan. Basically the of your seat. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. you you yeah where you yeah thumbs that's the color hu hu Very nice.
00:32:45
Speaker
All right. Well, I think that just leaves. A a chat about misophonia there. Right. Well, let's, I think well will we will have to, write ah had how do you rate this? Well, anyway, let's let's let's get into the ratings.
00:32:59
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The jingles. Bajo. Right. Bajo is the complete opposite. right they badjo is a complete opposite It makes me feel joy.
00:33:12
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Aw, nice sound. Yeah, love it. All right, so I guess ah do sounds generally... Oof.
00:33:24
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No, I thought... that that Yeah. It's trick of myself. Well, yeah, because I think if you've got dopamine hit, then then I think we'll have to include all those kind of and unusual sounds. So some of them, like banjo...
00:33:38
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Yeah. And some of like, slurping are bad. So we'll have to collect up all the sounds that we've ever heard in our life. Blimey. Blimey. And decide whether they're generally good. Bird song.
00:33:51
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Hearing bird song. You know, it's a beautiful sound. Right. Of all those sounds. I'm like you, Martin. um'm i' this There's not... Well, I'm almost like you. To me, this' there's not ah an instrument, a musical instrument that I don't like.
00:34:08
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I like all musical instruments. Right, I like most of them, bar two. So on that, so dopamine hit, it's very high. It's a 10.
00:34:19
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Right, for for good sounds. Yep, yep, yep, absolutely. Yeah. yeah Burnout. Yeah, so like, yeah, yeah the the bad sounds.
00:34:33
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It's high as well. How much do they irritate you? How much do bad sounds really... Oh, well, I don't feel suicidal. No, well, that's good.
00:34:44
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If that's a 10. If that's a 10. Sure, why not? Let's make that 10. I'm going to round it' gonna round it off to like a five Oh, wow. Okay. All right. it's a very round number.
00:35:00
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um i will i will ah i will go for like with us with a 7.16. Okay. ten So very different from yours.
00:35:11
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Yeah, very different. Yeah, very vastly different scores there. You could drive a train through the differences. Right. Or a big ship.
00:35:21
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A large one. Okay. that's ah All right. So this is where we get to say that your feedback is useful. It's vital to us. Thank you, Martin.
00:35:32
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All right. and And we might read all of our comments. all of Yeah. the kind of thing. that Oh, right. Yeah, we will. We will. Yeah. Okay. okay Maybe duringry during the next, we might actually recite one of your comments, one of our wonderful comments.
00:35:50
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listeners' comments in the next episode. Right, well, let's see what we've got this week. Let's ah jump into the yeah into the tractor mecca there, which we were Alexander's haunted in.
00:36:09
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Which is still haunted. Still haunted. As the sound effects kind of alludes to, Mm hmm. um All right. as Well, she's left a note. um It's it's a rather again. It was a so we were talking about tattoos last last week. yeah Yes.
00:36:28
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And she said, lovely episode again, guys. um um And we were talking about what tattoos you might have on your inner lip. So but when you're like standing there and you could like pull your lip down and there'd be something tattooed on your inner lip.
00:36:42
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And she suggests that the words fuck off could be something, tattooed. on her inner inner lips. And when I read that from Alexandra, i what came to mind for me was I could have written on the inside of my lip, right there, m fuck off, I don't like small talk.
00:37:07
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That's quite a lot of words. I mean, it's a lot of words. I've got a lot of lips. I was going to say, so someone's going to have to lean in quite quite close to you there to yeah feed read that. um Then we've got a Carol, who's our Minister of of of of Snacks. Yes.
00:37:26
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ah she did actually answer your question about, I think had a snack question, right? Yeah. um about About what you should do. Anyway, it's all there.
Menopause, Andropause, and ADHD
00:37:36
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She answered all of that. um i won't get into it, Paul, but you can get into that. Yeah, the basic thing, we were talking about what I need to substitute.
00:37:46
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I've got a big thing with with carbs. Right. need to substitute it with something because my menopause is is gone. My menopause? My angiopause, my metabolism has gone completely haywire.
00:38:01
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So i need to substitute my snacking for something healthier. Yeah. Protein and fiber is the way forward. Okay. As it happens. And then she also said actually on that, men experience menopause. I found this interesting. Men experience menopause too, which slows metabolism, just like you said, and contributes to weight gain. um You know what? It...
00:38:26
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it did make me think okay so i see a lot of stuff on tick tock about women and perimenopause and how you know if you have an ad if you have an adhd then as you hit perimenopause it makes everything worse like yeah like and and in fact that's where some women start to like really struggle and try and find out what's going on and and then they get died diagnosed Yeah. But it did make me make me think, okay, well, if men have a menopause, what what what what does ADHD and… Yeah.
00:39:02
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It's called andropause. Right. So… And it's basically… It's the same thing. It's just the hormones go haywire. you know right It's a massive massive, depends on person to person. Same with from different women.
00:39:19
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um my My girlfriend, she had almost no effect from menopause whatsoever. And other for other women, it can be extremely difficult. It's the same for men with the andropause.
00:39:33
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can have hugely different varying effects. So I'm thinking that is going to be a a future. I'm going have to put it onto the list, Paul. I'm going to put it on on the list of of the future epi episodes. um Oh, yeah. I did have one comment on TikTok, which I thought was which i thought was worth bringing up. And this was from...
00:39:58
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from from one of my friends called called Bin. um And this was this was on a TikTok where we are talking about, I mean, yeah it' it it's it's a clip of of of us and and we're yeah doing ah doing a thing.
00:40:17
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and and And she chimes in. And she says, quite possibly the most random question ever. Do you speed up your videos at all?
00:40:29
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You know, like that so it's like me me or or us on TikTok. Do you speed up your your videos at all? Or do you actually speak that fast?
00:40:40
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Oh, really? And she she goes on to say, because I have been really paying attention to your accent lately because I love it so much and I love doing accents.
00:40:52
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So I have been listening to your videos on repeat and practicing the accent. way. says Anyway, I find it absolutely impossible to actually speak along with you because you always speak just a little bit faster.
00:41:10
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That's funny. I was talking to one of my clients, I teach conversation English to Italians, and I was talking to them exactly about this subject this morning.
00:41:24
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And I speak to them in a very slow English so that they can understand me. So if they don't understand me, they could just say, please, Paul, can you just repeat what you just said?
00:41:39
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I'll grow even more slowly.
00:41:45
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Jesus Christ. But if you listen to the best speakers in the world, like um Barack Obama, great speaker, he is very slow when he speaks. And it's a is something that's common with the best speakers in the world is they literally half the speed of what they are saying.
00:42:08
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Yep. Yep. It's a great, it's it's like really basic, you know,
00:42:18
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best advice you can get to anyone who needs to make a speech. Slow down like half the speed you think. And it sounds really unnatural, but it's really effective actually as well.
00:42:30
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Yep. Yep. Absolutely. All right. So I think it's now time for the quizzy quiz. Quizzy quiz! Here we go.
00:42:47
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It's a quiz! Quiz quiz! It's a quiz where Paul and I take it in turns to quiz each each other and then we and then we keep
Quiz Scores Update
00:42:55
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a score. And currently the the score is four to Paul, one to to me. So I've got a bit of catching up to do. And this is a a a two truths and and and a lie question.
00:43:09
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Yes, well, thing it it changes. Sometimes there's one one, two lies and a truth. ah So I've got a set three questions.
00:43:21
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Okay. Three sets of questions. Okay. Mm-hmm. And they're based on the theme of sounds, Marty. Well, you know, who'd have thought it?
00:43:32
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All right. On the theme of sounds, okay, Marty? Ready? What's the score, by the way, so we can we can, you know, build our audience up into a state of froth? it's a you You're on four points. I'm on one point. Okay, okay. I need a win.
00:43:50
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Okay, it's officially frothy out there. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay, you ready, Martin? I am. i The first question is on the theme of sirens, Martin. These were like women that were, you know, mythological um females, women, that beckon men, sailors, onto the coast and therefore die.
00:44:15
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Right. Right. Yes. And they're very different in reality. They're very different versions of that mythology. Okay. Okay. Okay.
00:44:28
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Yeah. One of which, which one of these is um an untrue version of the myth. so Okay. i've Got it.
00:44:40
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Of these three, one of them is not a myth. Right. One one made up. OK. One that are made up. OK. So the first one, OK. And by the way, in some myths, for example, of the Cyrus, some of them were half oh of chicken. i was going to say of chicken half half Half fish and half woman. in other mythology in other mythology mermaids they were half bird half woman oh wow hey stop stop stop okay which which half is which oh good question is it like woman legs the top half martin was murdered the lady and then the bottom half half is just really skinny legs
00:45:31
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and a With wings, probably. Well, that's that's that's more attached to the shoulders, surely. Oh, okay. Well, yeah, I'm not... I can't...
00:45:42
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speak officially for the myths. I think... You know, in the general... I think... in know In the general common sense kind of way. Honestly, Paul, I think some woman walked down the street, she had really skinny legs, and someone... Right.
00:45:59
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That's half bird. She's half a bird. She's half a bird. Okay. Anyway... So there's three different versions I've got here, one of which is not true.
00:46:10
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Go on then. One of them which is not a bit. Okay. So first one, um the sirens, they beckoned the sailors onto the shores to their to their fate of death through their song.
00:46:23
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bo Right. The second is through their whistling. Okay. Okay. And a third is through their silence.
00:46:36
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What? Yes. One of those is wrong. w Well, song, obviously, you know, like you're a sailor and you can hear the distant sounds of like...
00:46:47
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Ah, do, do, do, just find a tree. Oh, officially triggered. You thought, that's ah that that's the that's the classic sound of a mermaid. um So we're it isn't that one.
00:47:03
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Silence. I mean... I'm going say, i mean, i obviously like i can I can think of mermaids. They're on the rock. they that They have their mirror in front of them, and they're looking at themselves, they're doing their hair with some sort of like, you know,
00:47:21
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thing from the sea by brushing their hair yeah with a comb like coral or okay or maybe a puffer fish that has blown up and they're using that um particularly puffy yeah so i'm just saying whistling they did not go
00:47:43
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okay yep you've been right martin oh yes i'm after a good start right you've got the first one right okay okay this is where it gets a bit trickier martin all right okay yep
00:47:59
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three these three people okay this is this this is on the theme of the sound of bagpipes you know we There were various famous people that hated the sound of backpipes.
00:48:12
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Okay. Okay. William Shakespeare, Martin. All right. Okay. Even in The Merchant of Venice, he viewed the backpipe as a source of physical distress rather than melody.
00:48:30
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That sounds a sounds pro plausible. Okay. Then, Alfred Hitchcock. All right. Legendary director of Psycho and the Birds was famously sensitive to the noise and had a particular distaste for the pipes.
00:48:47
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Okay. Okay? Yeah. Or at number three, Martin, Winston Churchill. He said he'd rather have his teeth extracted without anaesthetic.
00:49:01
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But this is to the sound of the bagpipes. that's Churchill appeared in last week's quiz, did he not? Did he? I think so. um All right, im I'm going to say... I'm going to say... God, it it it is between Alfred Hitchcock and... going to say Churchill.
00:49:21
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going to say Churchill did not did not like bagpipes. he what he Well, the thing is which one did... He didn't like... He did like... He did like bagpipes. Churchill.
00:49:36
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Oh. So I'm wrong. So you're right. Oh, ah I'm right. Well, you chose the right one. Yay! You chose the right one. Yes.
00:49:49
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So you've you've you've won already. some So it's 2-0. I am.
Cultural Traditions and Farting Quiz
00:49:54
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Yes. Just out of interest interested to keep our public, you know, hooked...
00:50:00
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Okay. Let's see if you can get the 4-3-0 score. Let's go for perfection. Okay. Focus. folk Ouch. In some cultures...
00:50:12
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Yes. The sound of farting is appreciated. Jesus. Okay. Right? what You have to guess which one of these I've made up. All right. Right? Yep.
00:50:23
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m The Inuit tribe in Canada and Greenland, in many Inuit communities, farting after a meal traditionally viewed as a sign of appreciation.
00:50:35
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Okay. oh Sign of appreciation. Okay. right. Yeah. for For them, it's like saying thank you. All right. But, i mean, in an in and igloo or one of those, I mean, it's quite a confined, yeah, quite confined, isn't it? In an igloo, does it freeze before it gets it's really serious? It's says it just an icicle just pops out of your of your bum.
00:51:06
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It just evaporates into into like a frozen kind of cloud. Oh, so it's like a snow machine. You can just fart and then sprinkle.
00:51:17
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Yeah, it's like a little frozen cloud appears. Wow. And they say as it gets heavy and heavy, it drops to the ground, smashes on the floor. Oh, dear. Right? Yeah. ah ah number Number but two, is it the from the Amazon rainforest? is's a tribe called the Yanonami.
00:51:37
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Okay. Okay. um Live between the Venezuelan and the Brazilian parts of the Amazon. Have one of the most unique social uses for flatulence.
00:51:47
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Okay. For greeting. Actually greeting. Wow. They fart when meeting a friend. Often used as a casual hello.
00:51:58
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i mean... That means that you would have to have one stored up just in case you bump into someone. Yeah. I mean, you know, because, fuck it all, that that that that feels like a bit of a physical nightmare to to try and keep one on the go. And then and if you meet a couple of people all in a row, right, hello, Jim. po Hello, Fred.
00:52:26
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Hello, Ian. How many do you have to... i mean
00:52:32
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That's a lot of farts. If you meet big group. In Burma, they have fart battles as a matrimonial bonding. some bre In some rural areas, it's common for newlyweds to fart in front of each other in the um um early in the marriage.
00:52:53
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This is often a way to break down barriers, show complete comfort and reinforce the inimaccys intimacy of the relationship. Burma. Right. I mean, it does bring up that whole thing of like when you meet someone new.
00:53:09
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First base, second base. How long is it until you fart their company? Like what's that? Yeah. What's that? what it is Do you kind of get it out of the way early? It's like first first date.
00:53:24
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You turn up at the restaurant. You sit down. hu Nice to meet you. That's what they do in Burma. um um yeah I used to know of a girl who shall rename nameless.
00:53:39
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She was an ex-colleague in an agency. She was a feminist and she would fart loudly as a sign of her feine feminism in the studio.
00:53:50
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Was she quite short? Quite small? Normal size. All right. Okay. she didn't She didn't have a copper as as a husband.
00:54:01
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uh no it wasn't her all right all right oh no this was in italy oh in italy oh okay i was going italy was going way yeah way back no not let not lisa no lisa that was a name um and that was sa sara hello hello sarah all over This is... um So, number one, the Inuit tribe of Canada and Greenland. Yeah. Number two, the Unobi tribe in Amazon Forest, or in general, in traditional Burmese um matrimonial bonding.
00:54:42
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All right. I'm going to say the Amazon tribe's out, just just because it feels like a bit of a nightmare. Well, you don't think they're saying hello? Well, i know I mean, like, just...
00:54:55
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I mean, yeah asset as I say, you you have to have one, like, on the, on the just ready to the whole time. Skills.
00:55:06
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Just in case you kind of turn around a bush. It's quite skillful. On the off chance that you bump into a mate. Yeah. No, you haven't got one ready to hand. Then how rude are you? You haven't got one ready to hand or one ready to cheek.
00:55:22
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Yeah. And, you know, and it isn't there. And that and they go, what? That is such a rude person I've just i've just met. um So that one's out. to be clear To be clear, two of these are true. One of them is false.
00:55:39
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Right. So I think the false one. I'm going go with Amazon Tribe then. I'm going to say that that one is false. Okay.
00:55:51
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You don't think they'd have ready, you know, like, you know, ready. I think it'd be ready enough. No, I think you're wrong, Martin. You're wrong. Come on.
00:56:03
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on They all three were actually true. It's just that it wasn't the third one wasn't in Burmese weddings. It was Japanese.
00:56:14
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Oh, okay. Japanese weddings, it's ah that it's um it's historically, in some rural areas, it's common for the Midwest to fart in front of each other early on in the marriage.
00:56:29
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I think that's a that sounds like a good thing, to be honest.
00:56:36
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Wow. So, okay, but still, okay, so it's 4-2. It is now 4-2 is the scores on the doors. um So that just leaves, let me think, ah me to decide what next week is.
00:56:54
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Yeah, what's next week's... Pop cards, Martin. Well, you see, I thought I thought i was quite ah i was quite in into interested in this um in this ah misso misophonia.
00:57:10
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yeah And then I found out that there is also a there is So i thought we'll do one on misokinesia. which which which is like the twin sister of misophonia yes which is about visual stuff it's one that irritates you that so it's the visual version of the sound things that you see i like that yeah because you and i are quite visual people
00:57:44
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We are. Like our job and everything. It's like what we get paid to to do is look. Yeah. And encourage other people to look.
00:57:55
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Yeah. um So there we go. So that's that feels like an an interesting ah
Exploring Misokinesia Next
00:58:01
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topic. so yeah, if if there's anything that visually...
00:58:06
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yes out there. if if yeah get Get in the comments if if if if there's anything that you, the things that you look at that just annoy you. the Interesting. I like that. I like that. but just A visceral, things that you look at and see that that that encourage a visceral reaction.
00:58:25
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Right, because, i mean, just the first thing I thought of is because we deal in typography, right, so lettering. Bad kerning. and a fad kerning Bad kerning. So it's the space between letters. And sometimes sometimes it um when you blow it up big, so so so it's like the front of a store or or an advert that's quite large printed outside. And any small...
00:58:55
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spacing difference becomes huge when it's blown up quite big and yeah there are some around me that have got their kerning just really irritates me I just want to fix it I'll be able to think about this for the next week yeah alright well that just leaves me to wait for the music to slide in
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01:00:00
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And I beseech you fellow ADHDers, fare thee well with gladness of heart. There, says the mayor. That's that.
01:00:12
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There we go. Oh, that's good. Another one in the bag. That's like, bag on the hour mark as well. Oh, yes. I know, we're just... Just slick. Yeah. i am um' as we're as As we're late in getting this out, going to have to like... Out.
01:00:29
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It's late. know. It's supposed to be out yesterday, so I apologise. and Anyway, that's it. yes