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Speaker: Oh, back in the room, mate. Back in room, Back in the room, and if you've missed us last week, that's because I had my laptop. um it was having It was having surgery. Right.
Speaker: So there was... Yeah. so um the but but But we're back. um So without further adieu, welcome.
Speaker: Oh, no, I have to say, sorry. Good Lord, it's it's been two two weeks. I know I've already forgotten. I have to say, so let's go to a place where the distractions are landmarks and the details are on the main roads. Welcome to ADHD World.
Speaker: Come on. Come on. I'm feeling good about this. I'm feeling good. It's good. We're on a roll. We are on about snacks.
Speaker: On about snacks. On about snacks. On about snacks. On about snacks. On and snacks and snacking in general. Okay.
Speaker: Hello, I'm Paul Thompson with a P. And I was diagnosed with the combined ADH and the D... Constraint with P was two years ago. Jesus Christ. And I'm Martin West and I was diagnosed with combined ADHD poopoo platter in 2013. And we start off in the local pub in ADHDville, the King's Edited Head, where we, the ex-mayors of ADHDville, take care of business. I said that all rather quickly. know, I rattled through that like a machine gun.
Speaker: um And this week, as yeah as yeah as you've probably guessed from Paul's intro and and and the podcast title, we're talking about snacks. yeah Not only that, but but we have snacks here. We have snacks. We have some snacks but that we bought. Yep.
Speaker: And, Martin, you won't believe this, or maybe you will. We'll soon find out. I had a topical dream two nights ago where you brought snacks to a party. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: They were like tea cakes or something. Oh, really? Tastes good. So, Martin, you were part of one of my dreams, right? You brought snacks, you brought tea cakes, and I got obsessed with trying to guess who had made them for you.
Speaker: And I was obsessed. And in the end, crack cow crowds were gathering, also trying to guess where or who had made those for you There you go.
Speaker: Topical dream. No one will ever know. i will never tell any anyone. No, it's a secret. Mainly because nothing is because... The last podcast, the last op episode was about dreams.
Speaker: Come on. Yes, I know, exactly. We're just tying all these pods together. Right. We are so... So it just leaves us to like work out ah when ah oh are we going to do our our snack tasting and and rev revealing? Let's do it now.
Speaker: Right Well, I think... Right now. Okay, look. let's kind of so let's Let's kind of scatter it. So let's do one now. Let's do yours now. All right. Okay.
Speaker: So tell the gentle viewers and and show the pack to the camera. What what is the pack? It's all the way from Germany. My son bought them for me. I told my son... ah told my son Hello, Tom. That... um I was doing a podcast episode about ADHD and snacks, and I i put him to the task, said, go out and get me some German snacks. Lovely. These, they're called, it's very weird. It's hard to work out what they're called because there's like it's that the, ah here it says Knabba.
Speaker: Okay. Knabba. Knabba. Then the actual brand is called Kukul. Okay. Then underneath it says Ertkabir Gismak.
Speaker: Then on the mouse character on the front, his name is K-Kanabi. Okay. So you've got K-Kanakul, K-Naba, K-Nabi, and Gismak.
Speaker: right There's a lot of stuff going on there. I can see a picture of a strawberry. So that gives some hint. There's three strawberries, right? Right. Then it says, which is rather, can I say, comforting, is that they're vegan. It's got a vegan symbol.
Speaker: They're vegan. Okay. That's comforting. Until you turn it over and there's like chapters of ingredients. Yes. good that's a lot All of that there is ingredients. That that is a lot. that's I mean, that's like that's like a hundred.
Speaker: Exactly. just like Oh, it's vegan. Oh, that's okay. All right. So let's open it up. They're like the last pieces of... Look at this. It's paper.
Speaker: Okay. It's like a sheet. A white sheet of... It's like rice paper. Oh. stiff's actually Oh, that's foul.
Speaker: That's foul. What's the point of that? You're killing me. but so What's the point? It's paper thin.
Speaker: All right. So it's like a strawberry... Ralfrey toast. Yeah. It's like a wafer. Like a strawberry wafer.
Speaker: Well, I mean, you're continuing to to shovel it in your in your mouth, however. Well, we'll get on to this because me and snacks, they're lethal. No, that's fine.
Speaker: it Oh, okay. Let's move on. All right, well... That's terrible. Okay, well, let's give that a ah a a mark out of 10. Right.
Speaker: but For your strawberry... It's a one. Oh! Continuing to eat. It's one. One. One out of 10.
Speaker: If you're a, whatchamacallit, fan... of a Life of Brian, what's it called? Monty Python and Life of Brian. Monty Python. If you're a Monty Python fan, you'd know, exactly if I say, it's a wath-a-thin, wath-a-thin,
Speaker: Oh, oh that the that's Monty Python's meaning of life. Yeah. the What's the point of this? I'm giving it a round. I'm giving it a one.
Speaker: And that's generous. That's generous. As you continue to eat the whole thing. No, I'm going to chuck the rest. Here's me chucking the rest. Here we go. I'm chucking them away. Because if I leave them in front of me, I'll i'll eat them all, even if they're shit.
Speaker: Right, right. Okay, well, that was one out of ten. I've got two tooth snacks up here, so we'll take some various breaks and we'll dig into those. Where are we going to today to talk about snacks?
Speaker: We're going to the farm today to talk about snacks. The farms. where food happens, where real food happens a knock chemical and Yeah. We could get food snacks. so if If I was to go to a farm and have a snack, I'd be thinking of the pork scratching snack. Oh, yeah, yeah. you get those in the States?
Speaker: um You know what? Generally, no, but I was in the um i was in the the the Asian store the other day where I got my snacks from, and ah they did have they did have paul pork scratchings, which is, if you if you don't know, it's um it's a deep fried deep-fried pigskin.
Speaker: Yeah. Which is very... It's the healthiest. No, no, but they sell it in a lot of English pubs. Right, exactly. It's the only place...
Speaker: it's the only place that they sell them no one goes to supermarket buys pork scrap cheese there's something exclusively publish pu publish publish exactly all right well let's jump in the tractor uh put out put on our but our wellington boots and our and our um jackets i was i was just trying to think of the breb of of the oh Barber jackets. that's the That's the farm. That's the farm posh farm brand, isn't it?
Speaker: Yeah. Barber jackets. Anyway, all right. Let's crack
Speaker: to the farm. Off to the farm. Off to the farm.
Speaker: Okay. Here we are at the farm. Oh, can you hear the can you hear the sound of the birds? If you were to have a snack right now, what would you have?
Speaker: Oh, good Lord. If you could if you could choose... ah o jesus Now you're putting me on the on on the spot. and Where are we? Well, it's it's like 10 to 10 in the morning. and I don't know why I'm saying that because I want have sweet and savory at 10 to 10 in the morning.
Speaker: um I don't know. Honestly. Donut. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Donut. That sounds good. I'm in. Yeah. I'd have, right now, I'd have a Marmite sandwich.
Speaker: All right. Very nice. First thing that came to mind. All right. law my you You do like that yeasty goodness.
Speaker: um All right. so let's So I think what ah what i want to say about um ADHD and snacks is is what I'm not going to do, which is kind of go, yeah,
Speaker: You know what? Snacks and ADHD are not necessarily that good for you. like you know like we all know We all know that eating a lot of snacks is not going to be good for your ADHD. We all know that it's going to... It depends on the snacks. If you're snacking, a handful nuts. That's ADHD.
Speaker: if you if you got a hand youre snacking you got a handful the nus that's good for eight news too Yes. so ah but of Handful of nuts or handful of like dried fruit.
Speaker: Yeah. So that was my second point, which which is like in the snack range, there are, hate this word, healthy snacks. i even think I even think the word healthy snacks puts me off.
Speaker: them although yeah you know although you know i like having health healthy so snacks around for me a healthy snack is a is is some fruit so so great the banana i love a banana yeah yeah me too i'm always up for a banana me potassium what is bananas are very good for if you're adhd One of the best things for ADHD, probably the Commonwealth Garden Walnut.
Speaker: Very good for ADHD. Right. um Yeah, there's a plenty of kind of good snacks and there's plenty of bad snacks and I'm not going to cast any shade on anyone who has lots of bad snacks because I too will go through periods of having bad snacks.
Speaker: Well, there's a thing, because I've got it broken down pretty much into five categories of snacks. I've got all right energy regulation. I've got two, gratification, which is probably on theme, right, at this point. Then three, routine breaking. Okay.
Speaker: Then we've got sensory reactions. Okay. And five, predictability. All right right. So we're just talking about gratification, right? So you might want to have unhealthy snacks because at some point, I don't know about you, Martin, but I have i have a thing with carbohydrates. I like like a sandwich. I could really crave a sandwich. I we could really have a craving for carbs. Yeah.
Speaker: massively, like mid-afternoon. h Oh, yes. yeah and it's like And I think that's quite common in ah ah in the autistic ah ADHD world.
Speaker: Yes, absolutely. Pasta. Come on. Yeah. It's like a staple. Yeah. And if you can find the right bread, I've just come back from Germany. German bakeries are incredible.
Speaker: You go in there just like, oh my God, there's like, without exaggerating, probably 40 different kinds of bread you could buy, maybe more.
Speaker: Right. Nice. Unbelievable. Yeah, was so good. German bakeries, wowsers.
Speaker: yeah So for gratification, but also sugar. So if you're ADHD and you're like having a bit of an energy kind of downer, sugar, you know, think, oh, grab some, I don't know, fruit pastels.
Speaker: Yeah, it helps. It helps. Downright it does. It's like when I tried the meds, it didn't work out for me, but when I tried the meds, but was also Ed Haribo, you remember?
Speaker: Yes, Haribo. It was, wow, that was not good. Haribo and ADHD meds, not a good combination too much.
Speaker: I remember all that. all of that Yeah, because what what's the next one on the on your list? We'll actually backtrack a little bit. Go back to the first one. Energy regulation. Right. So me, for instance, i yeah ah when I get hungry, I get grouchy.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. Hangry. Yeah. Hangry. Oh, is that it? Is that a thing? Yeah. Yeah. Hunger hunger and angry. Anger. Right. Yeah, that's me. get gravity.
Speaker: And I'm aware of it and I need to just like satisfy it. Right, right, right. Because, you having a snack will give you a little pop of a dopamine, which is always good. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: And did something else that I that i forget helps. But yeah, absolutely. Yeah, ah good because it helps so helps to helps to but to to regulate yeah exactly self yeah emotionally and yeah And then I've got to go back to gratification again, binge snacking. Are you a binge snacker, Martin? Do you, can you, if I'll give you an example, if I put a packet of fruit pastels, yes um I will eat all of them.
Speaker: Absolutely. And if I see someone so see a friend or someone or colleague eating a friend with fruit pastel, I'd like to sit back and admire them for their... You know they been who continuous yeah yeah For for their self-control.
Speaker: Yes. um ah It's a bit that me of me, I must say. Do you remember in the UK there was this little... there was a there was these little chocolate pieces and they were called, they were cool they were called, they were called the Pringles.
Speaker: And the advertising for it was, you can't eat a single Pringle. Yeah. Right. and they launched this and I went, Ooh, Pringles, you can't eat a single Pringle. So I had one. And because I've got,
Speaker: oppositional defiance this disorder plus I also work in advertising yeah I only had one single I only ate a single Pringle so the ad was saying you can't eat a single Pringle I had a single Pringle I've only ever had one in my entire life that was like 30 years ago and then the and then the company stopped making Pringles so you can't buy them anymore so
Speaker: I won! What do you mean? can't eat a single Pringle. You can't eat Pringles so you can buy them in Italy.
Speaker: They're still around. No, no, hang on a second. they were could They were called Mingles. Sorry. ah Ah, Mingles. Not Pringles the shit. Ah, okay, Mingles. Yes, I remember Mingles. It was a chocolate, a little chocolate thing. Yeah, Mingles. You you can't eat a single Mingle.
Speaker: Fuck off. Ah, okay. You can't eat a single Mingle. So there you go. Proud of myself. Small victories. Ah, yes. I'm feeling good about that.
Speaker: I remember Mingles, yeah. It's an old name, isn't it it? sounds like some kind of wife-swapping club. Yeah. you Do you fancy him mingling? No, no, I really don't.
Speaker: I mean, can you imagine? Trying to give it up. Like back in the 70s, there was this whole thing about putting, know, like couples, married couples, putting putting car keys into a bowl. Yeah. You pick out a car key and then whoever's car key that one, you would go away. But there still isn't there? I've told you the story about the pampas grass that was in front of my house.
Speaker: ah Yes, you did tell me about pampas grass years ago. It's a sign. Yeah, it's a sign. Our mutual friend Katie, she said, Paul? said, yes, Katie.
Speaker: You're pampas grass that you've got in your front. garden. It's actually a particularly bushy. It's not like you've only just flung. It's ample.
Speaker: It's particularly ample, right? right It's a big big big, you know, you can't miss it. You all pass it. Oh, that's impressive Pampers grass. Yes, it was impressive. Do you know that that's a sign around here that you are, um you mix it with the, you're a swapper. A swinger.
Speaker: A swinger. ah squigger And I said, what the hell are you talking about? So she fell about laughing. She said, yeah, Paul, didn't you know?
Speaker: So there's me from like a complete idiot. I just like pampers grass, right? said, Paul, I can't believe you. did How naive are you? that I didn't know this stuff.
Speaker: Listen, mate, listen, listen.
Speaker: It can't make sense in my head because, okay, look, if I am and Mrs. Smith, right, and me and my wife, Mrs. Smith, um we go, you you know what, we need to spice things up around here.
Speaker: Yes. it's Let's put our... And we need to appet advertise it. We need to advertise our spiciness. Right. Let's put... I've heard that pampas grass is is how that happens. And then you have to go and find pampas grass and then maybe some seeds or something. and then you have to grow it.
Speaker: So how how long is it from you having the thought of, well, let's spice up our sex life to actually managing to get yeah a a nice, bushy, pampers class? what That's like, what, like half a year?
Speaker: Right. But you could spice it up even more. You could say, what about dogging? What if if you found out that the Ford Bronco was a sign that you like dogging?
Speaker: so you've got the Ford Bronco, you've got the Pampers Cross. You're covered the on your bases. And, you know, well, quite. There's plenty of other fetishes out there. but I have heard that pineapple pineapple's on your door of ah when you're on a cruise ship.
Speaker: is a sign. Really? Yeah. And if the pineapple's upside down, it means something else. I don't know. Anyway, i think we've kind of wandered.
Speaker: one We have wandered away from snacking to dogging.
Speaker: Oh, yeah yeah oh God. Okay. Right, next. I've got routine breaking next, Martin, as a category. Yes. So if you're definitely, especially if you're work, you like, you want an excuse for like a break.
Speaker: This is especially true if you worked in in England, you often get, um it's often your turn to like make the tea.
Speaker: And you go off i get into the into the office kitchen and make teas for everyone. Yes. And there's a good opportunity to like regulate if you're an ADHD or ah if you're autistic.
Speaker: like regulate, have a chat with someone, you know, um maybe, be you know, ah don't know. um Yeah, hope helps. It help always helps me to like socialise with people and stop catastrophising and realise that actually it's just a another project, another client, you know.
Speaker: Nothing's going to happen if I miss a deadline. I never did miss a deadline. Right. you know So a good way of regulating. you know A snack is a good good chance to regulate and have a break.
Speaker: Have a break. Have a Kit Kat. Yeah. um i I like that. You know what? i Do you ever have this thing where...
Speaker: My brain knows if I've eaten the whole snack or not. Like, you know, like if you're if you're kind of doing something and you're snacking at the same time, and then you put the snack down, and then you're kind of sometimes i'm not sure whether you've finished the snack or whether there's one piece left.
Speaker: But your brain always knows. It always has that feeling of luck. So... If I have like a Snickers bar, for example, and I eat most of the Snickers bar, and then I put the Snickers dar bar, what's left of it, down because i because have to answer a phone call or something, right? my my My brain keeps track of the fact that I've not finished it, and it has this little... at It knows. It goes, yeah, mate, you haven't finished that Snickers bar, mate. It's over there. You have to finish it.
Speaker: right i think that's marty i think that's just you yeah i know it no i know what you mean yeah it's like it's like it's like still chatting away to you in the background okay there's a bit left there's bit left yeah that's all you've got come on come on come on come on finish me off you bastard yeah i'm like with that crisps is my big thing Chris is like number one, and it's like it's number one, number two, and number three in myie my snack list.
Speaker: So like when we were ah art at art college, like whatever wherever it was, 30 years ago whatever. 30, well, when we started, it was 40 years ago.
Speaker: 40 years oh yes, there we 40 years ago, you would always have a bag of crisps, right? me Yeah, you would you you would be sitting in class, in our art class,
Speaker: whatever it was, and you would have ah ah ah a bag of chips. And or if we were on a break, you know, like we would have like a mid-morning break and a lunch break and an afternoon break, and we'd be sitting around a table chatting about, I don't know, the Duran Duran or something, um you would have a you would have chips, crisps, you'd be eat them, and you'd always pop the bag annoyingly.
Speaker: Yes, I remember that. I remember that. Because you would eat it and then you'd go, you'd blow out the bag we'd go, oh, no, no, no, no. And you'd go, poof.
Speaker: Yeah. Fucking hell. It was like, every um it was bigger than me. You know, that urge was bigger than me. I couldn't not do it.
Speaker: And I was fully aware that it really irritated everyone. Oh, yeah, yeah. We made sure that you knew. Yeah. Stop! Stop! ah Because because you put afterwards, you put you all put me in and you forced me to the shackles of shame and threw rotten tomatoes at me for the rest of of the day.
Speaker: Absolutely. Oh, yes. could help medieval tactics. Yeah. All right. Next on your list there, Paul. the um Sure. I've got sensory reactions to things. that Oh, sensor sensory snacks. Sensory. I don't know what what the hell that's all about. Okay, let's improvise. ah you I'm thinking sensory. The first thing that comes to mind is, you eat a biscuit, let's go to biscuits, right? or then you have bourbon biscuits. So it's got it's got the two biscuit parts and the creamy bit in between. Right.
Speaker: Almost like an Oreo if you're a American. Talk us through that. Are you are you dividing the sections and just like skimming off the creamy bit?
Speaker: Or are you just like eating them whole just just down them down the hatch? You know what? um I've had sections of my life where one, first section of my life I would just eat it like like the whole thing, just crunch my way through it.
Speaker: Second section of my life, curiosity. Ooh, let me twizzle these two halves off. Let me yeah eat the cream bit. But then I found that the cream bit was too sweet on it on it on its own.
Speaker: It was like too much. So then I went, nope. let him but Let me go back to yeah just the regular eating. Yeah.
Speaker: I've just realised, don't think I've had said biscuit, you know, the like the with the cream in between. So in England we had the bourbon biscuit, we had the custard cream, which was probably the most popular.
Speaker: I don't think know I've had one of those for years. Yeah. we had the ones with the um the cherry bit in the middle, what were they called? The cherry bit? They were round and the cherry in the middle.
Speaker: The Jammied Dodger? Jammied Dodgers. Yeah. They were quite nice. I quite like those. They were awesome. um um' I'm just thinking about the um sensory thing, which is snacks, which is um there are some sensations of snacks i don't like, which is the I don't like any sort of any sort of a wafer.
Speaker: snack So Kit Kats, for example, that have that layer of layer wafer. I don't like the wafer. I don't like the texture of it in my mouth. It it doesn't sit sin right.
Speaker: I've changed in as much as I can't stand any more normal chocolate. It has to be dark chocolate. Oh, okay, weirdo. Yeah, no, it's just like... Apparently... Oh, I was on the car on the way home about an hour and a half ago, and there's ah an expert on sweets, okay, that was on the Harry Hill podcast. fun Fantastic episode.
Speaker: It's my new obsession as of this week, literally. Harry Hill
Speaker: Freaking hilarious. I'll tell you what, know it's going off chat for a second, but I will bring it back. With all the shit that's going on in the world at the moment, I totally and utterly recommend the Harry Hill podcast to just like bring it back and have some fucking like belly aching laughs.
Speaker: all right And he's fucking brilliant. And anyway, randomly, and I mean randomly, he had a special guest, I was the UK expert on sweets, and he said that all these companies make Mars and they make you know the chocolate now, there's hardly there's always less and less cocoa in the chocolate, and they're finding ways of saving money because cocoa has become so expensive that they're finding substitutes for it, and that's why
Speaker: all of these things don't none of these things taste like they used to all right they don't taste like they used to i remember wagon wheels being the size of of like yeah huge and now they're tiny yeah but have you seen the size of a snickers these days they're tiny Yeah, yeah. Almost. not you The fun-sized snicker is is now yeah that was getting hitting close to the regular bar.
Speaker: What's going on? hu I don't know if you still can get them, king size ones though. You better to be able get those. Anyway, yeah, let's crack on. We're half an hour crack on.
Speaker: Well, I've got nothing left except, well, I've got except subjects of healthy snacking. That's all I've got left. All right. Healthy snacking. Unless you've got other stuff.
Speaker: no that this thiss I I just have a few little, you know, I mean, just talking about ah ah a chocolate for a second. Some studies I found found kids with ADHD eat more sweets and chocolate than than other kids, not because sugar causes ADHD, because it doesn't, if anyone's thinking in that somehow it does.
Speaker: um ah wo was it ah But because ADHD brains are more drawn to fast, rewarding food. it's chemistry it What it is, it it's chemistry meets convenience. so at alwl so um yeah So we get a lot of reward.
Speaker: I'm going to add something to that. They're predictable as well. You grab a KitKat, you know exactly what you're going to get. Yes, yes, but over the years it's just smaller.
Speaker: But yes, yeah there is definitely per predictable. I think now is it is a good time for me to try one of my... oh my, good idea.
Speaker: I am going to show you one that I am going to be doing in in the week. I'm going hold it up to the camera. there There we go. Poppy cooking.
Speaker: What this is, it's sushi candy, right? We've got all the... Can you see all this sushi going on here? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: Except, i don't know if can see on the back, you have to make it just yourself. Oh, wow. So there are all these packets inside. I'm going to open up the the box.
Speaker: And again, this is... <unk>s just a box of chemicals. I'm going to... All right. It comes in like a little little thing here.
Speaker: um but But inside that is it's a bunch of packets, and you make the the the sushi. So I'm going be doing that on a TikTok. Nice. In the week.
Speaker: Do you ever think, you know, someone somewhere in the world was thinking, I know what's missing in the world, and they make that. Yeah.
Speaker: looks fun. and all that Yeah, I mean, this is quite a nice idea, actually. It's very great for kids, and also for grown-up kids like me and you. All right.
Speaker: Here we go. So this is what I'm going to try, right? This is this is a Japanese. Okay. Okay. Do you know what it is? because it's Yeah, well, there is a picture of a squid on the front.
Speaker: And it says here, it is traditional Japanese style spicy, candied, dried squid. Okay, can you just repeat that? for Yeah, I know. magic effect Exactly.
Speaker: It is traditional Japanese style... yeah spicy, candid, dried squid.
Speaker: Jeez.
Speaker: thats That's unbelievable. I know, right? Spicy candy tried to It would be unbelievable if you didn't have it in your hands at this moment.
Speaker: Yeah, um um i've just opened I've just opened up the the the packet and and it smells like how you think it it would. All right, let's... just holding it up to the camera. It's like little... It's like jerky beef.
Speaker: It's like little flaky jerky bits. God, it does not smell good. It does not smell good. I'm going to... Okay, here we go.
Speaker: All right, let's pop pop pop this in. Spicy Candid Dried Squid.
Speaker: Traditional. Yeah. Traditional Japanese style. It's chewy.
Speaker: And you can definitely get some squidiness going on. Right. And now I'm... It's a little sweet. But is there squid? Is it actual squid? Is it real squid? Yes.
Speaker: It's actual squid. Right. No, no, no, no, no. I've checked the the in the in the ingredients um and it is definitely squid.
Speaker: ah I've said I've checked the ding ingredients, but it's all a Japanese. but do I don't fucking know. wait i mean Here we go. Here we go. It says contains spicy candy. Oh, good lord.
Speaker: So fucking small. It says sugar, dried squid, then soybean flavor, soy sauce, salt, kelp. No, it's quite healthy so far, other than suta after the sugar. And then red, red pepper and caramel flavor.
Speaker: So it's not a... It's it's it's not terrible. It's not terrible. um Actually, i not I'm not quite sure why everyone would... It's actually okay.
Speaker: is it Where's it made? Okay. So you... two I can imagine it's made in something like Kazakhstan, and there's nothing to do with China or Japan.
Speaker: Where's it made? No, this is definitely... This is definitely ah made in Japan. Yeah, product of Japan. Okay. Yeah. This is actual...
Speaker: yeah ya whoa Which is comforting because Japanese, they're sticklers for, you know, for, um you know, they're quite very attentive to health and, you know. It's not bad.
Speaker: If you like squid, I don't eat a lot of I personally find the Japanese quite trustful in this. I would trust them.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. Japanese are sticklers for doing things in the right way. Right. OK, well, let's rate. Let's rate. Yes, do that.
Speaker: Let's rate snacks. There we go.
Speaker: So snacks. Snacks. Are they a a dopamine hit or ah or are they a burnout thing? I'm thinking that on the burnout thing, You know, you can snack too much, right?
Speaker: Yeah. and and and And you can get like a a sugar rush and and it can not help you. So in one way, it's a regulating thing, but on the other, it's not exactly healthy for you.
Speaker: No. Also, if if there's like, there are certain colours, artificial colouring, that's really bad, especially if you're an ADHD kid, child, there's certain ingredients that will be really bad for you. I'm im making pretty sure that that whatever strawberry little wafer thing that you had in the beginning he had all of the colours.
Speaker: had all of them i would read it if it wasn't for the ingredients it's so small you can't actually read them right and this is only an hour long podcast but we don't have like right
Speaker: by um So, yeah. um so Sorry, what we're talking about. So, yeah, scoring. Yeah. We're going to rate them. We're going to rate them.
Speaker: Is it a hit? Burnout. Burnout, yeah. Burnout is low. ah Dopamine is high. For me, it's ah it's pretty big. It's been a big part of my life.
Speaker: It's like helped me through some difficult times in my life. Through yeah my Massively important. I'm going to give it a round it off to like a nine point nine
Speaker: Nice. i Yeah. I mean, yeah. Again, snacks. Yeah. Yeah, they are so so good. So good. I mean, snacks of my past.
Speaker: ah My mum used to go to you She used to come back from one of the supermarkets, I can't remember which one, and she would bring back these, like, puddings, and and it was like a it was like a it was like a milk chocolate pudding. Yes, we used to get those.
Speaker: and then And then on the top, i don't know whether it's same one, but had a little flower-shaped... cream blob. Yes, yes. We had the same. Yeah. And they were just like, they were just the best thing in the world ever that ever existed ever in the history of everything.
Speaker: But there used to be something similar that was, but it was better in Spain in the nineteen eighty s Spain? Spain had a chocolate kind of like, it was like a blamonji kind of thing in a yogurt-y kind of container.
Speaker: Chocolate blamonji. Or chocolate blamonji. You know what? We should we we should do an ADHD and puddings or desserts. Yes.
Speaker: Well, we've done desserts, I think. Puddings we could do. alright All right, put it on the on the on the list. Let's do it with puttings, yeah. all right No pies. We've done pies. Right, okay. We've done pies. Of course we have.
Speaker: course we've done ADHD in pies. i will ah i will i will give this a score of like but right nine. I will not round it Okay, all right. Okay, burnout. What's your burnout score, Mr. West?
Speaker: You know what? i I'm probably going to put it in the mids like a five. I'm going to put it in the lowest. I'm going to give it a one burnout. All right. All right. yeah There we go. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. love yeah Nice. All right. Well, that's that's sorted that one out. Let's go, i think, to... um Let's ah head back in the tractor and we're going to go to a Alexandra's whole halted inn.
Speaker: Yeah. Let's get back in.
Speaker: Oh, so spooky. and right. Well, what have we got? All right. So, um ah yeah, so the last, so she just left a note on the table um from an episode about about dreams.
Speaker: um She says, she so she says, ah she says, a dreamy episode. That's very nice. I have some pretty weird dreams, some very funny waking up laughing or laughing in my sleep dreams. which You know what? I don't...
Speaker: like I don't get funny dreams. I've just realised reading that. i Oh, God. I've just realised the same thing. I've never had a funny dream.
Speaker: My dreams are always kind of a bit freaky. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. um Never a funny dream. I've never had a funny dream. Never. Thank you, Alexandra, for making me realise that. Right. I'm a little bit more depressed than I was 30 seconds ago.
Speaker: ah so However, maybe I can balance this out, Pixie says, and she has some pretty bad nightmares, especially when CPTSD kicks in. I might wake up jumping off the bed.
Speaker: Yeah, I've done that once. I've done that once. Okay. I've not done that either. Well, we've got a – I think – should we move on to quiz, Martin?
Speaker: I've got a quiz or kind of teed up for you. Let's – all right. So hang on. I've got the ah quiz music. Here we go. Yes.
Speaker: the quiz! It's the, we've known each other, we've known each other 40 years, but how well do we know each other, quiz? Yes, exactly.
Speaker: To remind us of the scores for 2026, it is now, I'm just checking, it is now one game apiece. So we are currently... Right.
Speaker: why All right. Okay. um It's your's your turn. The quiz today is about snacks, Martin. Oh, lovely. Famous people and their snacks.
Speaker: Oh, so this this isn't a how well you've known each other for years. Oh, okay. All right. because I haven't got enough material for that. So we'll have them occasionally.
Speaker: Oh, okay. I might do mine. Because i have kind of... I've kind of... given all of my most traumatic things all in one go.
Speaker: All right. So afterwards, it's going to be a bit of a letdown. I haven't got anything quite as much, although I might have forgotten two or three things, if that makes sense. All right.
Speaker: So let's crack on. Let's crack on. So um I've got ah three different lists of four things, right? One of which is not true. Yeah, I know. It's supposed to be three.
Speaker: ah Three questions. Yeah. Three things. It's just three is not enough, Martin, for me. It is. So one of the famous people with strange snack behavior, okay? Right. One of which I've made up, All right. So one of these four I've made up. King Henry I snacked regularly on lampreys. you know what a lamprey is?
Speaker: Yes. It's like a half-fish-half-linch kind of thing. Nasty little thing. yeah He's a snack. Yeah, I knew that. Okay, I'd never heard of a lamprey before.
Speaker: okay yeah Okay. Marilyn Monroe drank raw eggs in milk. Okay. Right. right Charles Darwin was fond of snacking on puma.
Speaker: what Right, know. Last but not least, Charlie Chaplin regularly snapped on beaver liver.
Speaker: So, henry the first King Henry I on lampreys, Marilyn Monroe raw egg and milk, Charles Darwin puma, Charlie Chaplin, beaver liver.
Speaker: Right. Well, I know for a fact that that the that lamprey
Speaker: um Henry I ate lamprey. i know is a theory that There's a theory that he died from overconsumption of lampreys.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah yeah that that's how that's how how I know. um Because, weirdly enough, I am reading um ah David Mitchell, the comic. He has a book called Unrevolved. Unruly, which is the ridiculous history of the kings and queens of England.
Speaker: That sounds my alley. Sounds right my street. And I am reading it all through again. So I've just read it and I've just gone back to the start again. Wowzers.
Speaker: So that was mentioned. um Eggs and milk, Marilyn Monroe sounds right. Darwin, puma sounds weird. No. Chaplin, beaver liver sounds right. So I'm going with that with charles Charles Darwin. I mean, puma?
Speaker: How do you get puma? It's true that Charles Darwin was fond of eating puma. All right. Right. The first one was Charlie Chaplin and the beaver livers.
Speaker: Oh, okay. Have you ever heard the story, talking of Darwin, when they discovered that the giant turtle on the Galapagos Islands, yes there was a period of about 20 years when there when they were first discovered that they tried to bring back a giant tortoise to Queen Victoria to her this new thing.
Speaker: But... The giant tortoise is so delicious that no one ever managed to get one back to the UK before they'd eaten it. Apparently the tortoise, the giant tortoise in particular, is the most delicious thing you'll ever taste in your your little lives.
Speaker: Oh, dear. i would yeah um'm so'm I'm happy to die without knowing. Okay. All right. you ready for the second bout? Yes. Okay.
Speaker: Lord Byron drank vinegar throughout the day. Right. Right. Judy Garland often ate squirrel jerky. All right.
Speaker: Albert Einstein frequently indulged in the snack of crickets and celery juice. Right. Vladimir Nagok Nabokov ate butterflies. Right.
Speaker: Often combined with butterflies with almonds and green cheese.
Speaker: right. I've never heard of green cheese before. Now I have.
Speaker: Byron vinegar, jimmy garlic, squirrel jerky, Einstein, crickets, and celery juice. Yeah. nap Nabokov butterflies.
Speaker: All right I'm going to go with ah Judy Garland squirrel jerky. that That sounds too much like sort of roadkill snacks for me. You're right.
Speaker: I've made that up in my imagination. Well done, Martin. Okay. So it's all on the last one. Okay. Yes. Yes. Richard Nixon ate cottage cheese with mustard.
Speaker: Sounds good. Right. Louis Armstrong ate laxatives with most meals. Laxatives?
Speaker: Laxatives as a snack. Wow. All right. George Washington, mushroom ketchup. Oh, yeah. yeah Yeah.
Speaker: And Queen Victoria's snack of choice, Martin, was... A rich consomme made from clarified veal and eggshells.
Speaker: Right. see all i see i see All of those sounds quite quite plausible to be honest. this Well, after your stack of firm squid, um yeah, so, you know, the gloves are off.
Speaker: Yeah, sounds like Louis Armstrong, who's the famous singer from like the early 20th century. That sounds like something like like a health thing, you know, like to keep you regular. I'm stretching the snacks up, the snacks, the snack thing bit there, but you know. Nixon cottage cheese and mustard, that sounds good. Cheese and mushroom ketchup.
Speaker: vi um I'm going to go with the George Washington, the something, the president of the United States. Mushroom ketchup. With the mushroom ketchup. Yeah, although they all seem to be quite plausible, to be honest. Go on then, that lay it on me.
Speaker: I made up Richard Nixon's. He didn't have cottage cheese with mustard. He had cottage cheese with ketchup. Oh, good God. All right. so so i So that's one in the score list to you.
Speaker: Yeah. All right. But what what is that all about? Queen Victoria, rich consummate made from clarified veal and eggshells. What's clarified veal?
Speaker: What's that? What's clarified eel? I'm going to ask. It's a process. It's made of veal stock and removes the microscopic particle fats and impurities that make it murky. So what the mix is a mixture of egg whites, ground lean veal meat, finely chopped vegetables, and whisked into a cold veal stock.
Speaker: All right. You heard it here first? Yeah.
Speaker: I'm going to cut out most of that. but
Speaker: I went to so much effort. Well, no, I'll just cut out the the the bit where you're like tippy-tapping. Oh, tippy-tapping. Oh, okay. When we're sitting there one, you know.
Speaker: All right. so i think I thought that was podcast gold, personally. Jesus Christ. Tippy-tapping. Right. Let's do the last of mice of my snacks.
Speaker: Okay. Here we go. Here we go. are you are you ready, ready Paul? Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Look. Can you see that? Your video is frozen. Oh, no, it's not. Okay, crabs.
Speaker: That's because you've been on the internet and then that that over overrides your podcasting. Does it? Yes, because you're using the same internet for your searching and the podcast. so it So it makes this podcast go weird.
Speaker: Oh, of Okay. Yes. But I've seen your pack, I've seen your pack, Martin. and Right, so I'm holding it right up the camera, but if you can see, yeah it's actually it's actually real real crabs.
Speaker: Wow, yeah. Can you see that? There's a pack of real crabs. Yeah. um Is it just similar things? it like dried like the squid? Yeah. Yeah, I'm just looking at the ingredients here. It says red crab, sugar, starch, soy sauce, sweet rice wine, seasoning, amino acids, food coloring. Oh, red number three. No, I don't want to do that. And yellow.
Speaker: Is it Japanese? Absolutely. Right. Alright, somehow I have to get into this. Oh, here we go, here we go. I found the the entrance to Crab World.
Speaker: It doesn't smell as bad as the squid did.
Speaker: as the
Speaker: ah the squid did
Speaker: What are you doing, Paul? I'm waiting. All right. right looks like you're reading emails or something. No, no, no.
Speaker: No, i'm I'm filling out something. filling out the um the yeah the running list for next week. Oh, right, right, where right, right. Yeah. yeah Here we go. look um I'm going hold that up to the camera.
Speaker: It's a little crabby crab. help And I'm gonna eat this now.
Speaker: Oh God. ah ah oh it Yeah. I'm feeling it. I don't know why, but I can tell. That sounds rough.
Speaker: That sounds rough. Is it bad? I'm trapped on a podcast. Eating a... That was not good.
Speaker: Really? Oh, fucking hell, mate. I want to stop on prison.
Speaker: I'm predicting acid reflux for your evening. Oh, that's going to repeat, isn't it? Yeah, it's it's it's like... That's going to come back up, Martin, to just saying.
Speaker: i think I think that... In about three hours' time. That crab is going to lay eggs in my stomach and yes be it's going to be like an an alien a situation. Well, that's going straight in the bin.
Speaker: under my desk there we go it's unbelievable do you never it's never occurred to you like you walk around to the supermarket let alone well any supermarket let alone uh you know oriental you think why do we need all this stuff you know what motivates people to think okay i know what's missing in the world we're gonna make these like dried crab snacks know what? I'm to have to try and get the taste of those crabs out with squid.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Jesus Christ. Which was relatively okay.
Speaker: Fucking hell, mate.
Speaker: That was appalling. um
Speaker: Anywho... um All right, so we've done that bit. Wow. Okay. So that just leaves us to – well, if you've got this if you've got this far – Yeah, well done.
Speaker: Thank you. Thank you. um get Get in the comments and tell us what your favourite snacks are. Yeah, yeah. Any strange habits. Yeah, snack habits. Get get in there.
Speaker: Tell us all about it. Tell us all about your snacking history. um History. Right, let's go to next next week's episode. Yeah, what's up next week, Martin? What are we doing?
Speaker: Well, I did um and ah a lot. Right. And in the end, I kind of... Stop umming and ahhing. Yeah. Stop by me and fucking put your... Put your... Yeah. Nail your colours to the post.
Speaker: That's not exactly right. Yes. Nail your colours to the past. I thought because I was like... I thought we would do... Board games.
Speaker: ADHD and board games. I'm talking like and mean Monopoly and Uno and Battleships and card games.
Speaker: Cluedo. And playing. Risk. Right. This thing of like... Playing games with other people.
Speaker: And that is it yeah with the new generation of kids out there, it's massively, it's a big thing now, board games. It's the new going out is doing board games at home with your mates.
Speaker: Right. it's So it's really yeah become really, really popular these days. Yeah, I love playing board games as a a as ah as a kid. I've still got games here, and I i do like playing them.
Speaker: um All right, well, that just leaves me... to click on the button that says outro and then that pops up and then i get to say adhd really delivered fresh every tuesday to all providers of fine podcasts please subscribe to the pod and rate us most hobbytastic no rate us most snackable the greatest most as snackable um And feel free to correspond at will in the comments, but wait there's more if you wish to see our beautiful beautiful faces and Sally forth to YouTube and the Tik Toks You can also pick up the quill and email us at ADHD will at gmail.com But in the meantime be fucking kind to yourself And I beseech you fellow ADHD is fairly well with gladness of heart Lovely.
Speaker: Ah, that's that's that
Speaker: That's that. Oh, I tell you. How's the crap, Marty? I have wiped it from my memory. I've forgotten all about it. It never happened. It never happened, mate. Oh, that sounds hideous.
Speaker: never be the fan of crap but
